Today, Ian heads to TPC Sugarloaf just outside the metro-Atlanta area in Duluth, GA to take a sneak peak at the new Mizuno Hot Metal JPX 923 line.
Working with Chris Voshall, Mizuno’s Golf Product Manager. Ian and Chris go in depth testing and gets a tutorial on the three new JPX 923 irons.
The three JPX 923 Hot Metal irons were designed to cosmetically mix and match seamlessly so golfers and fitters can blend clubs to make a set. The offset and sizes vary, but all three have thin, fast faces for more ball speed and sound-enhancing features to go with sleek, modern looks.
Having three models has created options tor elite tour players, slow swinging amateurs and every player in between.
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So let me get this straight with the advantage of a little bit of hindsight. We've understood that the JPX Hot Metal (HM) series is for high handicap golfers. In the past we've been told that the jacked lofts are required because the head technology (lower CG, etc) leads to a higher ball flight thus compensating for the lower loft. Now, along comes 2023 and the Hot Metal High Launch (HM HL) and we are told… high handicap golfers don't launch the ball high enough (apparently even with the lower GC, etc technology) and thus we've un-jacked the lofts. With the exclamation "Wow, look at us and our Mizuno technology".
Um, quit jacking lofts. And if you are, then show us the scientific results for the differences between head technology. Show us the 'heat map' across the head face to prove forgivability. Show us launch, descent angles for the target golfers.
Instead we are left with Ian hitting a 7 iron HM and HM Pro and then comparing it to a 7 iron HM HL (which is actually more like a 8 iron HM) and remarking on launch, descent, spin etc with his 94 mph club head speed. It is bordering on a sham.
That said, I am a lefty and have a JPX 921 SEL (with traditional lofts) and my wife, a beginner, has 8-SW of JPX 921 HM. My prior set I had for 20 years (Hogan Apex Plus); with all this loft jacking and technology churn, seriously, no reason to change again until 2040.
This demo test I feel would have been better suited to Mike or another staffer with average or below average swing speed.
The HL version spinning an 8-iron nearly 9000 w/185 carry is pretty crazy. That said, imagine a more normal swing speed of its target. I could see the target demographic spinning 7000 w/155 carry, which is more than ideal. While the 35* loft is strong, it should lead to 43-44* PW, which is not crazy in this era and a 4-wedge makeup seems plausible.
The other 2 with 33* 8-irons leads to same issue I have with every ‘distance’ club I see. What’s my wedge makeup? Do I carry 5 wedges? My PW alone is 41, maybe 42? It’s true I play ‘traditional lofted irons’ but that 8-iron is only 1* weaker than my 6. At the very least, wouldn’t it be better to call that a 7?
The other issue with these superlofts is gapping and playability. Your 30yd gapping from 8-5 iron is maybe a bit tighter than I like for mid-irons but it’s acceptable. What happens w/targeted audience w/slower ss? I’m betting that gapping tightens. A 22* 5-iron? That’s my 3-iron loft. Even with all of the CG manipulation, do we really expect someone w/limited or even average ss to consistently launch a 22* iron? I’m betting they sell a lot of 6-PW sets.
I’m a Mizuno fan and it’s great to see the brand continuing to gain momentum with more and more great products.
a very beautiful irons with very strong lofts, even with a pro model. my god, 28 degrees for 7i!?
Thanks for this video. I’m looking to switch to the HTP irons, unfortunately the steel shaft options have greatly dwindled because of shipping problems.
I’m curious if Mizuno has gotten any updates as to delivery dates for out of stock shafts?
Can I please buy a set of the proto types… I’ll take all the heat I can get
Pretty sure the way club manufacturers are going where longer is better even in players irons that their's gonna be a need for 5 wedges starting at like a 45 degree and your 4 iron will go as far as your 3 wood so you'll only need a driver….. or actually you won't need a driver because 3 woods don't have the same cor limits drivers do so they'll just make them a little bigger but hotter and you'll only carry one wood a juiced up 3 wood and 8 wedges lol
Literally the same iron as a few years ago with some new marketing… still awesome though. Why change something that wasn't broken?
As a 10 HCP, I love the 919 Hot Metals. So forgiving and buttery smooth.
Where's the 923 forged model?
I already have the 921's but it'd be fun to try these. I did have a little laugh when I saw the "High Launch" model also has 3 degrees of more loft relative to the others lol.
Looks like the same same from the JPX this year around…I don't see why anyone would be compelled to switch?
is there going to be a forged and tour model?
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I have yet to game a set of mizuno but every time they drop new irons I am so tempted to swipe a card
Of course the tour line isn’t offered in LH….thanks again mizuno
Love these!!!! Need to get in for a test drive!!!!! Great job lads
5i 22deg loft ? Seriously. P790 4i is 21……
HL is really what a lot of golfers needed in this category. Hopefully they will put their ego aside and game an iron that really helps their game. The standard hot metal and pro look to be low launch low spin irons much like the Stealth irons or Forged Tec X. Ego must be a driving component in this category because I imagine more players will opt for these in the hitting bay over the HL but will then wonder why their 7 iron hit the green and bounded 15 yards off the back lol.
It’s curious because the player that has the right swing speed and delivery to get the most out the the standard and pro will most likely NOT game an iron like that and will go to forged or tour. Who am I to judge though lol. Glad they at least increased the bounce to help the launch and spin. That’s the reason I went with i525s. So easy to hit with much improved sound and feel.
Can we still get fitted by TXG and not Club Champion? I have heard and read bad reviews about Club Champion's customer service.
Very informative, I've been playing the Srixon ZX5/ZX7 combo since they came out. I think I'm going to book my appointment with Club Champion and give the Hot Metal Pro's a try out.
I am even more confused now, last week i was ready to get fitted for 225's, now i have these to check out. I need help with longer irons and love the feel of my forged wedges through the ground. I hate the game improvement clubs I have now and i need the help but i need a club that isn't a shovel. These have no feel and horrible movement through the turf and take horrible chunky divots that kill the distance a defeat the purpose of GI irons.
anyone know who Vosh is referring to re flying the green at East Lake with a hot metal? @16:00
22* five iron for the hot metal pro is very strong