The 2 Delusions about Wing Chun – What is The Truth?
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The 2 Delusions about Wing Chun – What is The Truth?

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The 2 Delusions about Wing Chun – What is The Truth?

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  1. @JAllen5050

    I read what everyone said and another point came to mind. Most of these guys don’t train like prize fighters. You have a guy who trains for self defense and doesn’t train for a fight. There’s a difference.
    Bruce Lee trained like a prize fighter. The Kung Fu he did was his life. Five mile runs different kinds of strength building and conditioning exercises like a boxer training for a match. And then he did something most prize fighters don’t even do. He trained to expand on his craft. Even prize fighters don’t do that. It’s all in how you trains.

  2. @Klonoa1991

    Wing chun as far as I know was really developed for hyper close quarters fighting like a lot of traditional martial arts where sparring is done at a range where you are basically touching. In that regard it is pretty good. But it fails at long range which is a major part of combat sports.

  4. @AgapeEngineer

    Its to deadly to use in those matches, most effective techniques are banned besides on the streets because they can easily be deadly.

  7. @MakeFoodForYou

    Wing Chun itself isn’t the problem. The problem is Chinese martial arts tradition that puts little to no emphasis on free-style sparring. WC practitioners spend 80% of training on forms and drills and 20% of training on chi sao sparring. And 0-1% on overall fitness and conditioning. To be effective, they need to spend no more than 10% of training on forms and drills, no more than 20% on chi sao and at least 70-80% of the time free sparring. Now when it comes to drills, WC guys spend 90%+ of the time drilling techniques in chi sao range, with little to no drills for intercepting from a distance—but in a real fight, your opponent isn’t going to start or stay in chi sao range, so it’s pointless spending 90% of your drills in that single range. Ah yes, and on top of that they need more conditioning.

  11. @newgrower072-qg5tq

    you havent met the correct lineage of kung fu. it is very watered down and tampered with. scientifically incorrect. when you find the scientifically correct lineage and you are smart enough to master it then you will be invincible

  14. @user-tu4eo7zi1c

    Thers only a couple lineages that actually fight train in chun. When the majority of chun practioners see it they say thats not chun thats kick boxing or mauy thai. Then your lineages that got bamboozeled think its supposed to look like a beautifuly coreograhped kung fu movie so do people who havent trained it. So when they see fighting chun they go its thai or a hybrid or modified. So guys go wrll ip showed everyone the same chun and whoever says I got the real chun is bs, not so simple only a handful of guys learned how to fight with chun and they paid and didnt care about being SIFU they just wanted to be able to fight with it.

  15. @callmedavex2

    The real reason people lose when using wing chun are for 1of 2 reasons. 1-they suck, spent years lying to themselves instead of training hard so they'd have the skills when needed. 2-they have the skills but go easy, ego will lose you many fights. Take it seriously, don't underestimate opponents, and be as brutal as possible and you'll win more often than not.

  17. @Basta11

    If you were in a village in China 100 years ago, Wing Chun was the only game in town to learn how to fight, and it was better than nothing.

    Japan lost its hand to hand fighting arts and they were taken by Okinawan karate (which comes from Chinese Kung fu ultimately).

    Today with globalization, all the martial arts that have a competitive element evolved. Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, Jiu Jitsu are very different now than 100 years ago. Wing Chun became obsolete as it did not really evolve.

  19. @ADzx1034

    None of those people are wing Chun masters, especially that clown in the backyard brawls.
    The difference between a real master of pedigree and a mcdojo master is night and day

  20. @sweetness3441

    Wing Chun was a kung fu style made by an original Shaolin Nun that does not rely on brute strenght to be successful i.e. for women to be able to be successful in self defense using their hips for balance and lower center of gravity to use a larger opponents moves against them. It's literally named after a woman who was a great student and managed to successfully defend herself against grape from a warlord. Put some respect on it and stick to your brute cage boxing

  21. @waywardpony

    I'll add my voice to the different type of analysis here — a lot of the fights I've seen where an incident martial art practitioner gets TRASHED is often against a trained, fit, mixed martial artist who's been in fights and often appears to not be holding back. Is it possible the wing Chun or T'ai Chi practitioners they're up against have zero experience with actual fighting, just an understanding of their martial art and might be middle-aged and perhaps just a bit more fit than average due to the exercise they get from practicing? They might fare better against an average person, but that's probably just as dependent on the individual.

    Take all the martial arts, and just use what works in the moment and, if you've enough experience, it makes sense you can counter a singular approach a lot more easily. I also notice a lot of these ancient martial art practitioners really don't seem to know how to position their weight or hips, not that I know much better myself XD

  22. @georgepantzikis7988

    The problem is not with Wing Chun itself, it is with what it has become in modern times. Traditional Chinese martial arts were not designed to be sports. They were designed to help Chinese civilians fend for their lives. As such, the ultimate goal is to either kill or debilitate your opponent. This is why Wing Chun has moves like eye-gouging, throat-punching, breaking the jaw, kicking the knee from the side to dislocate the knee-cap, kicking the groin, etc. All the fancy punches and wild arm movements are not something you would use by themselves. They are fast, light movements that do no actual damage. They are used to get close to your opponent, and disrupt his defense enough to allow you to perform one of the lethal/serious attacks. This lethal part of Wing Chun is not needed today, because martial arts are seen as a sport, whereas Wing Chun is not, and can never be, a sport

  24. @kingzseventh7017

    Its called 'application' you have to apply it in combat scenarios to get experience… like mma if you apply Wing Chung in a fight you will learn the best techniques to use more effectively. The issue with Kung fu Masters they have not applied it in a combat scenario or at least high contact scenarios. Wing Chung can be very effective

  28. @Ymirson999

    W.C. is effective if you're fighting in a phone booth against an opponent who has no training in fighting.

  29. @Alithei123

    Yuen Kay San used these moves for fighting for life and death and these modern scammers did so much disrespect to Yuen Kay San by presenting it during fights like shit, its horrible, along with that "wing chun" from fraud ip man

    You have to fight, fight, fight and use these moves. Not like modern scammers. I hope they will end scamming.

  31. @seanlewis2452

    You can takes bits from everything. It will definitely offer benefits in the clinch for Thai or wrestling. Even when you get stiff armed by a stronger opponent.

  32. @leolejo4891

    When I was 10 years old in 1988 in my village, I witnessed an old man who could do traditional martial arts fighting 4 village thugs. In that fight, the old man didn't use many fancy moves like I've seen when people practice those martial arts moves, but what I saw was a very efficient defense and attack movement without fear, nervousness and panic. With just one, two, and three moves, he was able to paralyze his opponents one by one. The fight ended very quickly before security arrived, and the 4 thugs ended up in the health center because of bruises, sprains and broken bones, and the old man didn't have any injuries at all. At that time, as a child, I wasn't too curious about that incident until now, after seeing many people asking why traditional martial arts aren't efficient in real fights like in movies, and because of this, I also started to wonder and regret not asking the old man how he trained his traditional martial arts so that he could be efficient in real fights like what I witnessed. When I returned to the village and looked for the old man, it turned out he had died 5 years ago and None of his descendants inherited his martial arts skills and training methods because they were more focused on school and earning money.

  34. @Halalstlye

    Wing chun is good if you pair it well. Pair Wing chun with taekwando and you will survive about all of the London street attacks. Wing chun and taekwando is good for school fights, self defense, attacks during random times etc etc. that's why when people mainly in china study Wing chun they also study other arts of the kung fu

  35. @IeremiasEl

    ….this system is named after a woman and was designed for womens self defense during times of war….it is not a sport, it is a self-defense martial art designed to AVOID conflict and if it cannot be avoided, neutralize the threat by any means and get to safety…the training you do is to make your body a weapon….and conditioned to keep center line and horse creating a triangle so that a person can't push you over and kill you….essentially …wing chun is for emergency situations and never to be walking into a cage or ropes with gloves on ….majority of the training is preparing for real life scenarios …grabbing…kicking….punching….by the time the person wakes up you should be at home already.

  38. @Joe-vs2if

    I would never want to use my training in competition fighting.. definitely involved in the elements of energy, surprise, and timing. Ive met alot of people across the board with various wing chun abilities and talents… i think its based alot on thw seriousness the individuals compared to people just out collecting skills and combat Arts

  40. @vegadog3053

    Any KungFu without internal cultivation is incomplete. WingChun is an external martial art. It focuses a lot of defense too. The internal cultivation comes from the outside. You can "master" WingChun without finishing internal cultivation. These masters would lack striking power. Gravity training (like weight lifting) is kept to a minimum so speed and flexibility remain. China has 3 internal KungFu arts (original Taijiquan isnt taught in the U.S.) Baguazhangand Xingyiquan. In these martial arts, one has to develop the internal cultuvation first, striking comes next and striking is the primary training from then on. Either path is helpful as long as you complete it. We also have to remember, KungFu is actually bare knuckle boxing. Bare Knuckle Boxing is a different animal apart from modern Boxing and MMA.

  41. @羽凡-q7b

    wing chun is meant for personal self help in a street fight…

    when your life is in danger, do you still look out for rules in a ring match..?

  42. @Hrishitaz

    It's not the martial art form it's all about the one who learns it
    I also learn wing chun but our sifu is way more capable, his powers are unbeatable like he can beat upto 5-6 guys at a time, his strength, his speed, his power, his skill are way more far than them
    So, i would only tell that the art isn't useless it's worthy but u should know from whom to learn, and whom to teach

  44. @FrancescoPiva-x3v

    I practice wing Chun, and my master does to me always real stuff, but I prefer doing sparring because you can handle a fight. Wing Chun is good but it needs more sparring, and even Kung Fu in general, if Kung Fu adapt sparring, then it would be more real

  45. @aphaomega0098

    The thing is that these "Masters" in clips are either not real masters or just poorly trained fighters. It takes years to master wing chun and even longer to make it effective in combat. Pro fighters Jon Jones, Tony Ferguson and Anthony Silva have been known to use Wing Chun effectively because of how well they trained.

  46. @yusufb.4809

    When arrogant martial arts instructors with decades of experience get dismantled by fighters with a fraction of their training, it exposes a serious flaw in their system. A rigid, inflexible, and outdated martial art fails to adapt—and that’s a problem. Is it completely useless? No. But is it practical for real-world self-defense or competitive fighting? Not even close. If you enjoy traditional martial arts for their cultural value or artistic expression, that’s perfectly fine—just don’t mistake them for effective combat systems. Always remember their limitations.

  47. @thecuriosityjourneyco2

    The secret is that winning a fight depends on three pillars: technique, physical strength, and real combat experience.

    The vast majority of Wing Chun practitioners don't spar, don't fight, don't feel the pressure of real combat, don't know what it's like to take a punch to the face, and panic at the first blow.

    Most Wing Chun practitioners also don't usually train their bodies; the masters are pot-bellied, the students are hairy and have thin arms, without any muscle mass, mostly nerds who are fans of martial arts movies.

    There's no way to compete with boxers, Muay Thai, or BJJ practitioners who train hard not only technique but also do weight training and sparring, know how to take punches to the face and stay calm. No technique alone can overcome brute force and real fighting experience. In other words, any average boxer, for example, will be physically stronger than most Wing Chun practitioners… And right at the start of the fight, they'll land an overhand punch, shattering that movie illusion where punches are exchanged on the center line, face to face. The Wing Chun practitioner, who has never been punched, will panic and that's it.

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