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The meantime in the meantime as we often do Simon on this show we break away from football and we got on to the subject of uh boxing and I’m delighted to say um we’ve got our own little bit of History coming uh coming our way this lunchtime

Here in the 17th Floor Studio at the news building right beside The Shard at London Bridge because M Cham at Sky legendary boxing commentator Adam Smith joins us and so to does the chief executive and promoter of GBM Sports is he if join us live because we’ve got an

Announcement to make guys good afternoon to both of you good afternoon chaps good afternoon Jim how are you Adam great great to see you you’re in you’re in great voice again mate I heard you the other night good to be back very good to be back yeah I really enjoyed uh being

Out with uh with the guys in Saudi and and AJ and and garu it was fantastic to be around a big fight and then flew straight back to centry Skydome for a fantastic show for GBM Sports and yeah I’ve been busy again I’m fit and healthy Jim and raring the guy excellent you’re

Most welcome Izzy a chief exec and promoter of global boxing management GBM Sports what’s going on this has just come out the blue has it yeah you mentioned Global boxing management we started with global boxing management two and a half years ago three years ago

We started just as a bit of a dream three lad from Sheffield thinking we’re going to go have a go at this boxing business so we actually set off as a management company so a GBM stands for Global boxing management after one show of having one fighter and somebody else

As I said I can do this with me eyes closed long story long stories taught two and a half years lat as I believe we were the fastest growing boxing promotion in Europe if not the world we made insane kind of move strength in two years you know we’ve got Adam Smith on

Board we got talk sport on board listen it’s it’s one of the phrase I used a lot in the last two and a half years of my life is pinch myself moment and we’re in another pinch myself moment so yeah we’re in a really good position and good

To be on a great platform here to showcase our story and break the news what’s coming well you’re you’re most welcome and Adam is your your your first big major signing yeah huge somebody I grew up listening to for years and years been a boxing fan a boxed amateur box

Professionally I’ve owned gyms and and I’ve listened to Adam SP for years to to be sitting and sat next to him now to be official director of broadcasting at GBM it’s a massive move but it’s also a testament to what we’ve done in two years and which direction we’re going

Because this is a man and you know we’ve got big big plans and this is the start of something huge to come Adam this is your full-time return to boxing really isn’t it I mean the company I put on some big boxing events this year already in Sheffield in the Midlands cards being

Streamed live on the to sport Boxing YouTube channel the audience is there they can’t get enough of it I think it’s fantastic and I really really like what Izzy and the team are doing there’s passion there’s Drive there’s commitment there’s something fresh something new

And I want to be a part of it it’s uh it’s lovely to have been asked um I feel honored and uh Izzy and I have known each other for for a while um he’s infectious he’s charismatic he was a former fighter uh he knows how Fighters

S of should be treated um I’ve taken a role at Summit Sports um as their director of boxing talent to look after athletes closer and I wanted to do some help or advice on the promotional side as well and uh you know I’ve worked alongside matcham and Queensbury and

Boxer and and and the sains and everybody over the years but there was uh there was something that really attracted me to to Izzy I went to uh work on the first uh commentary back was for GBM Sports up in Sheffield I was blown away by by the show know the big

Production the fact that fans were staying from from the beginning to the end and uh yeah they’re not all the big names yet but they’re young prospects there’s 50/50 fights going on everyone was entertained there was a a real big event feel it took me back to the days

Of of of Eddie and and when he sort of joined us with with sky and we went from Leisure centers to Arenas you know everyone was having a great time in the in the Arenas and that was coming through flying through the the TV and on the radio people celebrities started

Coming out people started talking about boxing again and look I look at Izzy and the team there’s a really nice connection as well with Mitch Castello as well who’s working alongside Izzy because I worked with his dad many many years ago at Sky and tragically we we

Lost Lee very young and and we were really close and Mitch was a young boy at the time and now he’s you know one of the main guys at GBM Sports so that was a real personal story for me um really like what Izzy’s trying to do love the

Team there’s a there’s a a professionalism to the team and there’s a young passion and drive they want to go to the top and I want to be part of it and I want to help just advise and and and maybe use some of my experience

Just to guide them a little bit along the road but they’re putting the big shows on you know not only sheffi centry we’re going back to to Sheffield the plans of of shows in London and going to Ireland and around the UK and the Train’s going and uh listen I’m you’re

On it I’m I’m just I’m just pleased to be asked thanks Izzy is he well done I mean I know Adam inside out the the best of the best of that there is no doubt here’s the thing though I’m K to get Simon’s view on this in a second but is

He you know we’ve got so many boxing promoters and we know who they are they’ve been around for a while is there room for another is there room for you yeah Adam says there is there’s no one like me in the game you know one one big

Factor of me is I’ve been in the ring I understand the fighters emotionally financial problems of Fighters everything they go through I know I can relate to it so when I do a deal with a fight I understand what they’re going through I know it been a fighter I’ve

Been had bad deals from promoters and I want to get away from that stigma where promoters aren’t looking after the fighters it’s a new breed of promotion we’re bringing I understand it and just that drive it’s not just me everybody in our team’s got a more bigger Drive than

Financial drive and financial only gives you a certain element of motivation when you want it more than money it’s some different and that’s what we want so why are your values different from the lights of her or Warren or others I wouldn’t like to say different I I’m

Just me I don’t ever compare myself to anybody we just go with those my first interview two years ago IFL TV I said I’m going to be one of the biggest promoters in British boxing and they must have thought I’m insane I probably am insane to a certain degree but that’s

Fine good yeah we genuinely believe that and what makes the difference is we understand the fighters me personally I understand the fighters I’ve been an amateur boxer I’ve been a professional boxer I’ve been around the game people say I’m new to the game I’ve been in

This game for 22 years I made me amateur debut in 2002 yeah so I’m relatively new to the promotion game but I bring that perspective and also I’ve got a lot of business experience I set me first business up when I was 15 years old and

I don’t believe you get a lot of promoters who know business well but they don’t understand the fighting ele element you get a lot of Fighters who know fighting but don’t understand the business I bring it both to the table I generally do is it here’s the thing

We’ve got somebody in here who knows business pretty well what do you make of this Mr Simon Jordan listen of course there’s a space of course there’s a space I mean the intellectual Capital some would argue about some of the decisions that maton raid and certainly

Some of the decisions that boxer made is Adam Smith so it’s a wise move you know to have Adam involved in the focus and of course there’s a the industry is going through a lot of changes I watch it from the outside and potentially from

The inside and some of it I like and some of it I don’t like and it’s very fragmented and it’s sometimes quite immature and it’s often personality L the from the promoted side of things and we’ve seen the recent opportunities that the Saudi money has created that

Everyone can now play nicely with one another because someone’s putting a huge paycheck in the middle of the table and concentrating everybody’s minds but the industry is growing again and it’s igniting again and live and live attendances at at fights in all levels are at a certain level so I certainly

Think if you’ve got the energy the Vitality in the commercial nouse this industry lends itself to an opportunity and no one’s dominating it matum are doing really well but they’ve had their troubles they moved from Sky to to to the zone and that’s not been the most

Wonderful of marriages you know you look at what Frank’s doing ultimately he looks like the gatekeeper now because he’s opened the door to Saudi and all the revenues are there but that would be cyclical so you now look at an opportunity if you’ve got a young Dynamic hungry lean business has the

Understanding of its industry and adopts all the different facets and foibles of understanding the fighters mentality whether it’s from Academy mentality getting them from the Cradle to the Grave lifetime value understanding what a fighter means and being able to build through with them everything comes down

To money in the end because the more money you get the better Fighters you’re going to get the better you’re going to be able to monetize yourself and the better platforms you’re going to be able to build towards but I welcome it I think it’s greats absolutely Fair see

Adam what can this become I think it can become anything I think it’s a real opportunity um I’ve really enjoyed working with uh with Frank with with Eddie with Ben over the years and as Simon said you know I’ve I’ve worked very closely with them and and they’ve

Done brilliantly well but this this is a new opportunity this is somebody in izy who as he says was a fighter he was an athlete and I’m I’m very close to athletes and I and I look at how they’ve been sort of looked after over the years

I want to give back I want to help um you know holistically and and I think mental health is a big thing I think the way that that Fighters go for their careers is really tough and hard and so I want to give back to that which is why

I joined o at’s Summit but I think with Izzy I think there’s a a real opportunity to to do things in in a real transparent way in a real good way um for example you know the Grassroots element has really attracted me to Izzy he’s very very keen on the young uh

Amateurs and and how they come through and how they’re treated and and how that gives a chance to a promotional platform right we’re on talk sport GBM Sports have made some fantastic signings recently like sha Thompson like Kieran Malloy there’s some some really good Fighters coming on board and I think

This is the beginning of a really really interesting Journey no you know I he looks up to Eddie and Frank and I think that’s fantastic I think that he gets that inspiration he doesn’t want to compare himself he wants to be his own person and if I can help that along the

Way alongside a really really interesting group in GBM Sports who putting out fantastic socials they’re making a difference already and at fight nights it’s so it’s fun people are enjoying themselves and they are literally they’re getting there that they they’ve got fights regularly going on they’re being entertained there’s

Some away wins it’s a bit different yeah you don’t haven’t heard of everyone yet but you will start hearing about them and I think there’s momentum and I like promotional companies and any company that have got momentum and drive you you touched on some of there transparency

That’s so important for me like you know I before coming on coming onto the station my team was saying oh you better be preps Simon Jordan Jim watch a big Channel go when you speak the truth you don’t have to worry about anybody’s comment you know your business I’m

Confident in my product worry about I don’t have to worry about Simon I said he can bring it on as much as he wants talking Simon and I just said if you speak the truth and be transparent you don’t have to worry and you can just be

Yourself and that’s what we’ve driven on that’s ethos at GBM and that’s what I carry myself cuz but but nonetheless you’ll face challenges along the way what do you think they are in the short ter I had jim I’ve had handshakes what I’ve got stung for 10 15,000 I’ve had

Fighters pull out on me second show after the Wayne and I know the reason and I’ve gone a lot in Yorkshire we we do contracts with handshakes but that can’t work anymore so we know we’ve got to do do gance and do our contracts in place but we’ve got

To keep to our end bargain and we’ve got to be transparent integrity’s got to be there which I’m this what all I’m about all I’m all my ethos at GBM is about integrity Integrity Integrity because we got to stay true to oursel and we’ve had stung we’ve been stung already but I

Think as long as we come true and the big factor in that Jim is I don’t need to do this financially I don’t need to do it I’ve invested well i’ come from good family we’re in we’re in a good business I don’t need to I want to do

This for Legacy I want to make a difference and that you can’t put a price on where you from in yorshire Sheffield born and bread proud Sheffield I’m sheffeld United man before you start having Stickam yeah LIF long for my sins but I’m a big football fan I’m a big my

Main spot with crickets I played Cricket at one of the most successful Cricket clubs in the country I represented Yorkshire uh South Yorkshire I played with Jo R and Michael vaugh so I’m a chef I’m a cricketer by I went into box boxing by default I get putting some

Weight on through cricket season and went into boxing G just to keep fit and now look who with sat year fastest going promotion in the country I believe we’re going to be one of the strongest boxing promotion outfits within next 18 months well bre 20th of April I’m looking at it

In rotheram Coming of Age event that that sounds good doesn’t it with the liks of Shaquille Thomson huie Fury Kieran Bradley there’s a lot going on in the early days of GBM Sports we’ve got the CEO I with us and the legend the legend that is Adam Smith they have

Teamed up and they’re looking forward to doing big things in boxing in spite the fact that we know that Warren and Hern and rasman have dominated in recent years but uh there is a space for uh GBM Sports of that there is no doubt So Adam

I mean domestic UK boxing in what kind of health is it in I think it’s in very good health I think I think boxing is it’s always cyclical isn’t it we’re coming out to the Olympics we’re going to get a a new crop but there’s some very exciting Fighters that Ben and I

Work with in the early days of of boxer and and the sky relationship and signing up the likes of Lauren price who’s got a world title shot coming up in uh in her beloved Cardiff can’t wait for that one we’ve got obviously the freight of the U

Fraser Clark and Fabia wardley event in a few days time that’s brilliant you’re doing that you’re working yeah I am that’s it’s going to be brilliant and I’m delighted to be working with you guys on that yeah fantastic it’s a it’s a great night a great bill at the O2

Easter Sunday it’ be fantastic that and a lot of beef between wardley and Clark and a really good genuine pick and fight um so I’m fascinated by that one yeah we we had a great show with Frank at the weekend there’s British boxing is flying there’s lots happening and there’s

There’s lots of youngsters who are coming through and uh and I think the amateur gyms are packed again I told you last time I was in here my own daughter my 12-year-old’s down and and she’s she’s she’s doing boxing first time in in in in in her life and she’s been down

There a few weeks and she loves it and it’s all it’s all happening in in the youngsters and the gyms and it’s really exciting times that I think that people are being inspired by by generations and that’s what happens I heard you in the last break is saying to Simon the Saudis

The Saudis are on the scene aren’t they I mean there’s a message from Rob who’s one of our listeners UK Market has been neglected due to people getting into bed with the Saudis there’s a big opportunity for someone to grab the mantle here that’s what you’re doing

This year are you not yeah absolutely we want listen I’ve been around the world watching boxing let’s be honest all of us yeah we know why they’re going there we know we know it makes commercial sense we get it we understand why they’re going out to Saudi but nothing

Beats a good old British Fight Night nothing beats it been everywhere watching fighting and nothing beats it feel them stadium with that atmosphere and we think there’s a scope and not like we’re going to carry on doing what we doing but we want to put big British

Fights on we want fights here Adam is he no when I saw you in cheffield this week I popped into grant Smith’s gym absolutely buzzing dton his son’s got a great big fight this weekend that there’s just an energy in there for for for for the women for the men it’s just

I think there’s some fantastic opportunities in the next couple of years and I think yeah as Simon said it big the big St stuff is happening in Saudi at the moment and for that it’s great we’re getting some some huge nights Fury and usk and and AJ will will

Be in the mix again and and all of that but back home let’s let’s not forget the fans here and the fact that we can still pack out Arenas and uh and give some fantastic fight nights up and down the UK and in Island it’s all good saying

Let’s watch it on TV it’s available at the right time but come on being in that Stadium being part of the atmosphere you know seeing you fight cheering your fighter on it’s a different kind of feeling and we we’re going to push on that this is what I meant about what

Eddie did all those years ago to take it from Leisure centers with 1200 people in to make it a happening they did it in the darts as well you know Finding cities and placing you know getting 9,000 people in it’s a big night out everyone wants to be there and it

Radiates you know it’s it’s catching and that’s what we more recently we saw Eddie Heron and Frank Warren out in Saudi Arabia back here the perception is that benom and boxer have cornered the ukuk market are they your main competitor listen I don’t really see anybody as competitive they just they’re

In the same industry we don’t really look at that we just concentrate on those I think sometimes you can get drawn into competition with him and competition focus on those focus on my product I’m extremely confident in our product so I don’t need to worry about

Anybody else you know I really with the right platform we can match anybody in the country and that’s not me get you know blowing it up I’m being deadly serious about that sincerely believe that and it’s good that Ben’s putting on good fights right we’ve had Tasha

Against Michaela Maya we had the Dan aiz batti fight we’ve got wardley and Clark coming on this this good for British boxing to be honest Ben Shalom Edie Fran they’ve all supported me they’ve all been supportive they they like what they they see the driving all and they see

They see that spark in the eye they know what we’re about competition you know you know everybody’s Pals in the world of boxing Simon they’re all friends together until he becomes a problem to them but you you grow the sport you grow the sport absolutely and where they

Could be ideally working together is to make sure that events don’t compromise one another’s building so that you don’t put vents on the same night happened a couple times last year happened when I think Chris bam Smith was fighting COI um Eddie had put an event on as well but

I think there’s a great opportunity I think there’s so many things in boxing that can be improved you can look at the way the British boxing border control set up and its regulation you can look at the way Fighters looked after and the fact that Barry mcgrier Once Upon a Time

Wanted to look at the way that Fighters were pensioned and supported after the event and if you can build like I said earlier on without being too Pious a cradle to grave mentality with Fighters where you keep Fighters for a long period of time because you look after

Them and the transparency side of things is part of that because with young athletes they’re easily influenceable but look at the British landscape look at the fights that we’ve got coming up we’ve got boti versus yard you know we’ve got Jos Taylor versus Jack catell somewhere along the line we might have adamine

Versus doton Smith these are good fights we’ got Nick ball that was just robbed of a world title fight we saw Nathan Heeney out last week you know which would be perhaps a fight for your boy at some point um Shaquille but the bottom line is is there’s a lot going on

There’s a lot of interest and boxing at the ecosystem state level is alive and functioning you this kid Kieran Maloy you were telling me what a talented fighter he he will Top Rank so we’ve got a great matchmaking team and you know the best in the world I’d say yeah and

The thing about Frank and Eddie working together as well and there five on five and it’s great for fans and it’s great for Fighters and the key is about the athletes we get them out they get their money they build their careers and we look after them you’re right you can

Almost believe they like each other Simon mentioned about pomot is not working always at each other who who really gets punished is the fans for me it’s always fans are the consumers they’re the paying paying public out there we to make sure we deliver for them so it’s not only fans do feel

They’ve been short changed in C occasions because of bad judging dodgy judging Adam you know what I’m talking about I mean everybody’s got their take and how a fight works out and what the verdict should be here but on a few occasions when we left open mouthed you

Know is that something that should be worked upon a better process of judging there’s always there’s always things that should evolve right with television with looking at replays looking back at things of course course we had that you know Jack the Taylor Josh Taylor Jack catell fight a couple of years ago now

We’ve got the the burning rematch because of what happened and everybody was sort of outraged about that but you’re going to get differences of opinion in boxing and that’s part of what makes the sport so alive and and what makes it you know always a debate

And but yes there’s always ways that we can look at it and that’s for the British board to do and before we go today wardley Clark who wins it oh I’m I’m working with you on it so I don’t know I can’t I can’t can’t say that I

Think look Fraser Clark I’ve known a long time he’s steeped in amateur history he’s got the pedigree he should win the fight Fabio wardley has got the momentum the power and has looked a better professional I don’t know I think my boxing head tells me Fraser Clark

Wins it but fresh momentum and I it’s it’s a great fight it’s a 5050 you think F I think when you’re going to up the levels answer incident good political answer that I’m I’m going to be stra I’m not sitting on the fence business not Fraser a friend I think he’s got the

Fundamental with his amateur background I think this is a fight where you’re going to see the best of Fraser he hasn’t looked good enough yet though yes but certain Fighters up the level against the competition I believe you’re going to see the best frza clar I think

He’s going to be there for the winning but if he’s not switched on he could be light out this is a real genuine fight I’m really looking forward to it you have not lost your appetite one have you have you I love it I love it is a

Voice he’s a top man I see I want you to have the last word because you have the stage at the moment this is this is your moment and why not uh GBM Sports what can you what can you promise us this we promise you great events quality fights

Some of that the consumers are going be happy talk sport is our our broadcasting partner at moment so you can watch our Show April 20th see what we’re all about see what the hype’s all about the only place you can watch it is talk sport YouTube channel would’ve been a great

Partnership with us and expect show after show we’re going to do show every single month until July we’re going to go all up and down the country we’re going to go to Ireland I’m we going to Showcase what about and we’re we’re signing Fighters that we believe can go

To the top we’re investing in Fighters that we believe are going to go to the top we made some great signings we’re going some more signings this year and yeah this is an important massive year for us and this signing Adam Smith working with us is the kind of shows the

Kind of direction we’re going in we’re looking forward to it I don’t want to Promise Too Much and disappoint guys out there but listen just keep keep the name in your mind and izy ask in GBM Sports is going to be force in British boxing see well done you’ve delivered it

Brilliantly there’s a message good luck to YY and Adam we need them because all we’ve been hearing about is Saudi Arabia in the world of boxing well done brilliant welcome Jim White and Simon Jordan Monday to Friday mornings from 10: on a.m. on da via the talk sport app and on

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39 Comments

  1. How ?? By putting on the biggest cards we have ever seen instead of usual shite of one title match if your lucky on ppv then rest u never heard of if anything it's helping boxing but I forgot if we don't run it then obviously everyone else is guna ruin it

  2. Ofcourse Adam Smith would say Saudi have messed up Uk boxing (which I agree)

    But he wouldn’t have the balls make that comment if they money was coming into sky &
    Boxer

  3. There’s a famous saying ‘money talks and bullshit walks’ so walk along mate let them make their well deserved money

  4. Thought he wanted to do something different…. Wasn't that why he left his position as head of sky sports boxing

  5. The Saudis have saved heavy weight boxing let’s be honest the promotions if not for the oil money would not have allowed their fighters to put on shows for us.

  6. yes ok guys, i`ll have all my windows replaced with your upvc double glazed frames, you`ve convinced me it`s what i should do.

  7. Hearn leaving sky was a travesty.
    Judges are often a travesty.

    Good luck to them. Hopefully more competition makes the others raise their game.

    Imagine AJ v Fury not being in the UK as much as I'd be grateful to see the fight.. I'd be gutted

  8. Boxing model is the issue. Promoters have destroyed the sport. What the Saudis have introduced is a centralised model. What boxing needs is this with structured events around the world (similar to the UFC). Also, get rid of most of the belts

  9. Sky couldn't make the big fights but wanted to charge punters and pubs a fortune for every event.

  10. lol so salty no money for them so there jealous saudi is great for boxing we are getting the fights uk us couldnt be bothered to do and its great to see i hated smith on sky so wouldnt listen to the idiot now loved AJ he did until he went dazn then he slandered AJ ill never forget lol fook him make him poor .

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