On Episode 484 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by Peter Mansbridge (01:24:29) to talk about his legendary career as the voice of Canadian broadcasting as well as his love for the game of hockey. But first, the guys go over an incredible week of hockey with the Chiclets Altcast, Jaromir Jagr getting his jersey retired, and the awesome Stadium Series in New Jersey. Later on in the show, the guys talk about the firing of Jarmo Kekalainen and Auston Matthews stellar play. Lastly, the boys go over everything that’s going on around the league from Nashville not getting to go see U2, Phil Kessel in Vancouver, and much more. But most important, how many podcasts should Pasha be suspended for?
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I’m Peter Mansbridge in Toronto this is a special edition of spit and chicklets it’s my duty to please the booty and M got mad at me the coach and he goes Jesus Christ why don’t you just wor two nines and I’m went okay switch to car please please please never do that yep So hello everybody and welcome to episode 484 of spit and chicklets presented by Pink Wy from our friends at new ampster dam vodka here in the boss D Sports podcast family what is up gang another wild week for the Chicklets crew we’ been on the road like what 10 10 nights
Already this [ __ ] month Stadium Series chicklets cast tore up Hoboken for a few nights but we got to say hi to the boys first let’s go to the bis M Paul Biz nasty bis on the road again got more miles than the [ __ ] space shuttle on him what’s up the road again
I don’t know the words I’m not really I’m not really a word guy but uh here’s W he Whit’s running and close the door he’s probably got the kids screaming Wyatt just lit a [ __ ] fire probably I’ll wait for him to sit back down we can’t we can’t start without witty we
Need him we good witty what there he is what’s up we didn’t want to start without you buddy I just wanted to talk about keys I apologize I’m actually recording from uh from G’s chair right now I’m in hoken still it’s been a hell of a weekend in hoken got here Thursday
I will say I would consider getting a place here you say that every sing place we go but it is do I say I say that up a lot of a lot of places Cactus like buddy buddy I got moving back to Toronto buddy you know Denver for the West C F
Buddy buddy place is sick no no no no no I said like a suburb maybe I wouldn’t live down town Denver no no no but I like like you get involved in every city we’re in and then you kind of like you could picture yourself living there but
Then you you think there is somebody who has a a place in 50 states you ACC I doubt it all I’m gonna be willing to say there’s not one person that I I am gonna buy a a 500 foot condo in every single State Challenge Accepted just do a little YouTube series
Of me just with these little whack pads all across the country uh but hoken awesome spot stab cabins couple that exactly but what awesome weekend I mean we’re not going to dive into the hockey quite yet but we got here Thursday we had an event it feels
Like a month ago is when we did the Chicklets cast but all in all a great weekend here before we get into the nitty-gritty of it Whit how have you been Buddy you’re you’re down in Florida you couldn’t be here we missed you but
We still had a heck of a [ __ ] time I know and it looked awesome um I I when we get into those games we can go into it more in depth but the the setup at that that Stadium like I kind of I kind of was a little down on it when they
Announced it I’m like a metti like first off I was like how did that place get the World Cup final that’s in a few years but still I was like I don’t know and then the way it looked the crowds the jerseys the walkin um outfits
Besides loser Lou and his no his no character to the Islanders and I [ __ ] love it like what a donkey but it it looked incredible like at least watching it on TV and we we always say those are kind of more for the fans in attendance
It looked really good and I don’t know about you guys you could tell me more but was the ice were the player saying the ice was incredible maybe it was just those teams were all flying but that was those were fastpaced games oh and they were snapping passes where like they
Were all on the tape and stuff I was very imp impressed with how clean the hockey was normally [ __ ] show at those events they did delay the game yesterday afternoon about an hour I heard that was because of sun now there was also a million things flying around online is
That to be true G was it sun related yeah I was told it was Sun related okay so there you go maybe it was because of potential ruining the ice conditions with but [ __ ] unreal yeah it it looks sick I was I was kind of rattled not to
Be there but yeah it’s school vacation week this this starts so we planned a while ago visiting my parents in Estero I mentioned they actually live right above uh the stall Brothers their parents so it’s funny how that works out cuz my dad get to be friendly with his
Dad on the Penguins there and then and then we’re going Thursday to see my wife’s parents on on the East Coast so we’re doing about 9 days down here and it’s it’s beautiful obviously the first day of vacation was was yesterday we flew in on um where we fly in yeah
Saturday afternoon then Sunday first full day it must have rained 2 and a half inches here it was unbelievable so went to Top Golf killed a couple hours with the kids but but now it’s beautiful and the next the next 9-day forecast just looks about 75 to 80 in Sunny so
It’s awesome oh yeah baby oh yeah actually I was talking to Trevor Daly he lives down here here Jonathan Bernie lives down here I might bring a Ryder over to skate I guess Dales has a two boys an 08 and 09 both real good players he’s like yeah we skate Tuesday and
Wednesdays you can bring them over if you want so might do that just to kill a little time in the morning and uh it’s nice to be down here though man you know you know b i but I I could get a place down here I could see myself living down
Here I I let’s split a condo wh when I come into town I could stay with you and the kids and the family I’m sure that we’ be we we we we’d have like a uh uh we’d have to be like spraying down the whole apartment after you were here for
A week alone I’ll buy myself a plastic on the furniture and on your hog foul yeah I love how the hockey Quirk of like saying like the the birthday nobody says the ages and the hockey the only sport that does that like you just said it’s hilarious I was saying that to somebody
Recently I forget I was like is your son a 15 or a 16 and it was like a buddy’s wife she was like what she’s like what do you mean I’m like oh it’s just like that’s how hockey players do it they just go by the birth years it’s it’s
Very funny how that works out yeah I think the only sport that does it g Mike grelli busy week for you great job last week how are we doing my friend uh I’m doing great bus is in my uh office right now so I’m a little out of touch right
Now but uh awesome week can’t thank everyone at uh TNT in the NHL enough for allowing us to do that chicklets cast The Stadium here is awesome having it here and I don’t want to call it my hometown but I my home field and uh it’s awesome I’m going to actually going to
North Dakota this week too for chicklas U so very excited for that we have a merchandise collab coming out with them I believe it’s going to be available in their team store so super super excited to get to the Ralph and uh it was awesome having you guys in town and and
Being with you guys on the road for the past [ __ ] month and a half so the the Ralph is the Taj Mahal of of University Barnes right it’s got like goldplated toilets and [ __ ] you’re actually not wrong at all B they the floors from the Ralph are the it’s the same Stone used
As the floors of the Vatican so it’s like they said is that legit I I heard you say that Fu out of my kitchen with that [ __ ] that’s what they told me I got on a call with North Dakota and they’re like first things first the floors Vatican floors okay this has Wikipedia
Written all over it I need fish and shauno behind the scenes here Googling that right now and I’m going to wait to for a little buzzer on my phone here as a text messages to confirm that the was on the call Bish heard him fish heard what’s that movie that Nick Cage
Was in the National Treasure yes yeah yeah I I actually never saw that but I mean I I’ve always said that the the Chicago Blackhawks red uniform is my favorite NHL jersey I think before North Dakota went from I think they’re not the fighting Sue anymore are they oh yeah fighting Eagles
Now oh my God fighting Hawks maybe those old those old Fighting Sue jerseys incredible and I thought that it was always the rule that when angle that gave all that money to the hockey program and built the arena I thought he put it in there that like they could
Never switch the name but I guess at some point the the the public pressure that they had to what do you mean what’s the public pressure like the scrapping guy they didn’t want it to be public pressure is when the pressure Publix you to maybe get rid of like what’s
Considered an offensive yeah so I I skipped a step there I meant like what was so offensive about it that there was a drunk guy scrapping no dude it was a it was a sue it yeah Native American Indian oh yeah Oh I thought that that I thought they used to
Have on their Jersey kind of like the Fighting Irish where it was uh oh I think you’re thinking of Notre name thought Biz thought the logo was like a a logo for like peer pressure of like some kid holding like a roach in front of another middle schooler he thought
Ro no I’m saying that because I used to go [ __ ] you I used to go to NRE Dame Fighting Irish so did they have to change the Fighting Irish Okay so the the Irish people they they can just be sewer there can be drunk fighting Irishman everywhere but fighting Su I
Don’t think at my high school anymore I think at my high school they got pressured to change it and they maybe that’s why Irish yeah you can’t they didn’t want the yeah the association to like a drunk Irish guy scrapping that’s how sensitive I thought I got we decide
That as a Irish people irans and pol somebody on Twitter please draw me up a logo for the north I might have been smoking dope and completely imagined all of this this could be one of those things where have the the Sue logo in in the back of every
Seat I think he made sure that that would stay so they told me that when we’re doing the tour they’re like the Sue logo is still plastered everywhere there’s like there’s no like that’s that’s kind of how the floor conversation got brought up because they’re like yeah we can’t change the
Floors like it’s there’s a big Sue logo there like it they’re not changeable floors it would cost too much but it’s really good documentary on Amazon Prime about them ch changing the name from the Sue to the uh fighting Hawks and like the Sue tribe tribe it it’s ridiculous
There’s a dock about everything now yeah B remember when I know probably 30 pretty much yeah I mean they slap up on Netflix they usually like produced by the person it’s about so they keep all the dirty [ __ ] out of it half the time so but Biz remember like I don’t maybe
30 years ago they started like there was a drum beat no pun intended like to get rid of like Native American names and you know it was mostly like white liberals complaining it seemed like all the time and cuz I was at Adams we were the Mohawks they they started trying to
Change the name and like I was the editor of the school paper and that’s where I realized how much [ __ ] power you could have like with that we we just like completely shut it down then like 10 years later they ended up changed it to the [ __ ] traill blazes some stupid
Name yeah but you I don’t think I’m qualified enough to talk about all this so uh but uh should we should we we got to go back to TNT boys it feels like it was a mon believe that we we I thought that was a month ago like you said when
I saw the outline we to go over TNT I was like what we haven’t done a show since then oh my god well we got in there though B I got to shout you out before we shout out everyone at TNT and you know Biz loves giving out the thank
Yous and they’re welld deserved on this Biz you kind of put this in their ear originally about like possibly doing this and I think the Manning cast was a big um jump off for like different way to broadcast games and the best thing that I saw was somebody mentioned on
Twitter like if you were fully invested fan of one of of either Pittsburgh or Florida maybe you’d want to watch the game with the announcers but if you’re just looking to watch a hockey game and and just you know you just kind of have
It on on the on the on the on the outside and you’re doing other things I thought it was a great idea obviously we’re biased we got to do it but it ended up being way better than I even thought and I think it really helped
That the Penguins were one of the teams because we had a bunch of different stories of our days back in back yeah it was like paying homage to Our Roots and and especially as a podcast like you know now that Army and Merles are on board that’s where we all met right so
We share a lot of the same experiences and sto stories coming up through our careers and I mean all four of us touched the American Hockey League where most of the nonsense takes place and it was it was just a a a perfect broadcast
To to be able to start this out on and and uh at least have something to fall back on from like a guest perspective and it just all worked out incredibly and uh I’m I’m so grateful that we got to it got to happen now I don’t even
Know if it was necessarily my idea I want to say Craig Barry at at uh at TNT came to me with it where he called me in a couple months ago and he put it in my ear and I was like yeah I’m like we we we used to do these more especially
During the pandemic but we love hopping on the live streams or what whatever what is it streamyard or whatever app we’re using that’s updated at that time and you know having these special guests come on board so it was a perfect collaboration and as you guys know and
You guys will be able to speak to it now and you always joke about all the thank yous I snap around but they make your life pretty easy you go in there and if [ __ ] they they’re wiping your ass the entire time there’s 14 Runners ready to
Get you a Morton steak it’s and then of course the production side of things and how professional they are so even when we got there on Tuesday to cut all those fun promos and ra you were the star of the promos buddy you [ __ ] leaned right into it like you crawling with the
Rose in your mouth and really getting that that Valentine’s Day Spirit going so you I’ll let I’ll hand it over to you guys like what was your experience working there and and with all those professional and amazing people it was just fun man I’m like you Biz I’m a ham
And EGA I love cameras I love doing goofy [ __ ] like that and just the the idea that we were on [ __ ] TV on True TV and and streaming on Max like watching a hockey game it’s it’s kind of surreal to say even a week later but I
Had a [ __ ] ball man I thought it was out outstanding I think well I’m sure it’s probably not going to be the only time we do it but uh I one thing I did like when Han come on and you know obviously I’m probably not the best
Dressed guy on the show here and uh they asked him about what wardrobe and he’s like you know what I owns it like what he wears what he wears he owns it [ __ ] Hank H up my back for my shitty wood R but it was great and just to go back to
Your point of how it originated I think it was Bill Galvin actually uh B CU When I met him I the first time a couple years ago he kind of hinted like oh maybe we’ll see what happens maybe we’ll have you on one day too I kind of I was
Like oh I wonder what he meant by that and then you know a couple years later it came to fruition so uh uh hats off to Bill man he’s he’s the man so Billy G and OC these are two guys who helped produce uh uh the TNT broadcast yes they
Probably went to Craig Barry and there was probably a meeting at some point about them wanting to do this and like G you could speak more to it like Billy G was kind of the producer and quarterback of all of it he helped up set up the
Interviews you know when we would go to commercial break so he did a tremendous job and G you got to work in the producer chair and kind of see how they operated but we also throwed our own bar stool SL spit and chicklets twist where we had the chat going the whole time
Like we had the fun guest as we normally do like you were bringing up like some of the tweets from from our Wack Pack outside of just ch yeah it was awesome man I thought it was it was so cool in the fact that they trusted us like for
For someone who I mean I haven’t sat in a control room in 10 years and the last time I was in a control room I was scrolling the teleprompter at Channel 7 so for me to be able to sit in a producer chair and for them to trust me
When I say things like hey go to this now and Bill’s like all right we’re going like they didn’t even think twice about anything I said so like when like right off the bat we had the singy tweet and I’m like we got to get the singy
Tweet up and they’re like who the [ __ ] is singy I’m like I’m telling you singi singi will play singi will definitely play they get it up and it played so the trust that they put in us to to do this I thought was just unbelievable and yeah
It was just an awesome time and and just to go to what you were saying quickly it’s like bringing up singy just kind of makes us feel a little bit more comfortable because he’s someone from our world right so we’re trying to connect the two and like TNT really
Allowed us to be our our authentic selves but also like we’re not like making helicopter [ __ ] jokes and St like we’re F we’re really finding that line as tempted as I was to make a helicopter [ __ ] joke with like but like we were able to be ourselves and and and tell
All the stories we normally would on this podcast yeah and the nerves weren’t too bad I think cuz we were just sitting there talking like we do on this pod I wasn’t really nervous beforehand granted like there’s a there there’s so many people that work at those BigTime
Studios probably a little bit like unnecessary I’ll say at least it it comes off that way because there’s so many people Everyone always obviously has a job to do but you’re sitting there and you’re looking we probably had like 15 people just like looking at us on the
Broadcast but it was great because we had this huge screen to watch the game and then we interview kachuck beforehand and you could talk about Matthews kerov hellu McDavid kachuck might be the best player in the league right now he leads the league at scoring since January 1st
So all of a sudden boom he comes on obviously he gets a few points that’s standard we have his dad on we have Brady on so we had the whole kachuck family join having talk it at the end was great my three favorite parts of the
Night I don’t know how to put these in order I’ll start with one Biz was basically kind of Hosting this he’s the TV guy he was used to it while watching Biz try to like get to commercial like in time it was an absolute disaster at at some moments but hilarious cuz he’s
Like people are talking I said finally I’m like how the [ __ ] does Liam McHugh do this every time while he’s got my babbling idiot breath in his face like oh my God like shut the hell up and you like I was like tapping your leg basically like being like I got to send
This thing to brain well at one point it went to commercial mid interiew between like lanquist and talk it and I think like all of a sudden like lanquist is still asking a question there’s like a Geico commercial on the huge screen I’m like I think we’re off air right now bud
And then that was obviously a battle for you but you did a good job you did a good job my second favorite my second favorite getting the makeup done so for the the day before we did the little show in terms of um the pre-show right
Where Ari is crawling around we had the whole walking they did an aw awesome job we came in we bodied Jazzy Jeff and then we kind of did our thing we put the tuxes on but we didn’t have makeup I’m like ah this is kind of tough no makeup
Right but all of a sudden the next day we get the makeup on I’m getting the makeup on like this is nice this is really going to help me you know what she said to me hey I got a little spray to cover up a couple of the bald spots
I’m like yes she like sprayed something on my hair that was like color in my hair I was like this is unbelievable I look like I got a full head of hair right now thank you so much and then the third we finish up and everyone’s flying
High right it was a success really good feedback people seem to really enjoy it we had fun doing it and so we were going to meet like a bunch of people from TNT and just have a drink at this local pub right near our hotel me Merles and R
Pull up to this Pub all of a sudden R right oh I love this place I left I left my wallet here last time I was There I don’t know what happened didn’t lose my room key though but is so I don’t know how I get home some nights yeah we know Whit here and I’m here you know it to talk about pink Whitney as I mentioned I’m down in Florida and first
Thing I see when I went to a local establishing here was a couple of people ordering pink Whitney shots it felt great and did I mention that I was the inventor of the drink no no no no I did not do that I just let them enjoy their
Drink I saw actually one guy took it and said oh I love this I was so happy I was so happy to see and I I hope all of you out there are enjoying pink Whitney whether it’s mixing it up with some soda water doing it as a shot or buying the
Big old monster bottle 1.75 so as I’m in the warm weather it’s a little easier to imagine being out on a boat or being on the beach or being at the pool and enjoying your nice pink Whitney chilled on the Rocks like I like it but up north
Where it’s still cold out we’re still dealing with winter warm on up with a little pink Whitney new Amsterdam’s own without New Amsterdam we’re nothing that is who created this and and I I cannot thank them enough but we want to shout out New Amsterdam the pink lemonade
Flavored vodka that’s number one in your heart and keep on buying it and go to the local bar in your town and Order up a shot for me I appreciate it and I love you all yeah all in all it was a huge uh huge week and uh like once again just
Thank you to everybody at TNT I hope that we’re able to do this again um and and you kind of said it like Hank coming on he kind of got jammed up would have liked to had more Hank and uh and that was so cool that he had your back maybe
You and him kind of start like a fashion line already maybe he starts dressing like you he just like switches it up completely goes to all the baggy suits baggy clothes and maybe the Blackhawks changed their nickname to public pressure to a fighting Irish guy on the front of the
Jersey but he’s Italian all right we got to talk about the the basketball shot I thought that was we talked about TNT putting trust in us I remember in the production meeting when we said we got to let ra shoot hoops at one point they’re like what and I’m like every
Time there’s a video of RA shooting Hoops it goes viral and this time you nail it in Kevin mccale Jersey dude that felt so [ __ ] great because we were in The Inside the NBA Studios they did it over for us and Charles bakley said when we interviewed him the toughest
Competitor he he played against was Kevin mcel obviously I’m a boss the guy so I brought my old school Mitchell Nest Jersey put it on I know I air balled the first couple I think it was the fifth shot though right when I let it go with
I was like I said I goes it’s on Y and then I hit that I was like thank God National TV man I [ __ ] didn’t go 0 for 10 so that was pretty [ __ ] sweet I ain’t gonna lie G and you beat you beat the Penguins power play which has
Been [ __ ] dog [ __ ] they’re still losing they’re not going to make playoffs they it not only lost him that game I mean well it didn’t lose him that game but it was a big part of it and then then yger night they give up a shorty to lose the game it’s [ __ ]
Pathetic I mean some amazing moments from that game though I mean the whole week uh Crosby Going on during warm-ups with the with the mullet I would you have ever thought in a million years that was so sick I mean everyone wearing it and then him getting to practice
Before do we want to talk about that right now maybe yeah yeah we’re already into it yeah yeah so we mentioned last episode or maybe two episodes ago that they were doing it it was Sunday night and it was going to be a big deal and I
Kind of talked about that Rob Rossy article in which there were old memories of Yer as a penguin and then to see him go back and like see the love for him and obviously there’s been a ton of Jersey retirements and cool ceremonies and all these different types of things
For these legendary players on all these different teams but I don’t know man the practice the day before doing warm-ups everything that went involved to it like it’s it’s it’s Brier it’s uh guy Brier’s retired by the Penguins passed away and then Lemieux and yger and so it’s like
It was it’s so memorable and meaningful for that organization they don’t have a lot of numbers up there like the Celtic I think the Boston Celtics have 25 numbers retired and you understand in certain teams in the success they have but Pittsburgh’s had this Legendary Run
Since 1990 and it’s like he’s the second guy like the the second Superstar to go up there along with Mario and and I think that all the fans getting to see him and go back and he just after we interviewed him I didn’t know a ton
About him he seems like such a great guy we got to experience him quick granted it was over Zoom but I don’t know like even him up in the booth he was doing some color with Phil bour and it was just a great night I mean Unfortunately
They couldn’t get the win for him but that was so that that had been coming for so long and to finally see it go down the way it did and have that weekend be such a success it was just awesome and Penguins fans were fired up
They were lined out the door for it just such a legendary player I I think I sent you guys the the um the tweet I saw from 9 unbelievable 93 to or 92 to 2000 he he was Conor McDavid like same numbers like it was you you
Kind of forget I guess he’s 51 years old you forget that was the most dominant Force maybe one of the most dominant forces the League’s ever seen oh absolutely dude I I mean do you have some of those numbers R can you read them off yeah I got right it’s pretty
Insane you’re not exaggerating either with now while you look that up did you see see the speech part when he says my girlfriend’s probably too young to remember and it pans over she’s probably like 23 years old just an absolute missile the fact that he like called
Himself out can we roll the clip I want to say thanks to Dominica my girlfriend uh she’s too young to remember I played in Pittsburgh by that [Applause] I but I told her all the story so don’t worry about it like come on man that’s
[ __ ] top and at the end don’t worry I told her all about it oh my God unbelievable I mean I hate to like I don’t I don’t know if it’s appropriate to bring it up wasn’t it a couple years ago there was a video that went viral
Where a young girl was like I’m GNA post that we slept together and he’s like I don’t give a [ __ ] yeah yeah go ahead like go ahead she [ __ ] make it your Ria profile picture I don’t give a [ __ ] yeah he was in bed asleep I’ll get
You an Uber but that’s the only money getting and he dropped the uh an fpom too with did you catch that when he was on TV he let a [ __ ] fpom slip you got that as well here’s a sign puck in in uh in one of my
Nfts actually I got a stamp out too here it’s a colle beat it they got to get that guy in the Hall of Fame second history of the league man no because he still plays professional hockey and you got to be out away from Pro Hockey for three years he’s still
Playing technically Pro Hockey over clad so he’s he’s kind of the the European how and he’s also um he he’s like uh um it’s like Gino to Sid to you know to to Mario right it’s see he was the right-hand guy it would be like if if
Dry cidal and McDavid go on why did it take so long for Pittsburgh to do it I don’t know man people were kind of talking about that and wondering and I I don’t want to say there was bad blood I think he necessarily didn’t want it like
It seemed like he was distancing himself a little bit and then I said last week how he kind of he made it sound like he thought people didn’t like him there and he always got booed I mean it wasn’t cuz they didn’t like him it was just cuz he
Was so good he was dominating them I mean I remember coming into the league when he was on the Rangers oh my God I think the one year he had 120 points it might have been my rookie season he was you couldn’t get the puck from him like
So 63 about 230 240 sick hands use his ass to protect the puck it was just so dominating and I and I think that there was like a lot of time time where he was just kind of he was turned off by Pittsburgh maybe personally and in the
End like time time heals all wounds and and finally like he kind of came to the realization like people love me there I got I got to be up in the rafters I love it yeah wait I I don’t know if it was bad blood but there was you know maybe
Some animosity there the way he left you know he wanted to stay and he he would he leave for Washington first and took the money there then he was in Philly and oh he got a bag and wash didn’t he was he making like 10 million a year
Back then maybe more he was defin I think he was the highest paid player for a couple Seasons there but yeah but it’s it’s good they patch things up because that you know Life’s too short to [ __ ] not have [ __ ] y yagas number retile it took way too long dude I read
A tweet when he when he was 41 or 42 he finished seventh place in MVP voting when he was on the Panthers like it this guy was it was just insane he did it for so long and and right now he’s playing to keep that team alive like he told us
Like cadno was in you know Financial disarray and so he’s playing to help the organization it’s just like get him in the Hall of Fame cuz his Hall of Fame speech is is is going to be amazing and and even he he’s got four rockets in front
Row when he was with the Bruins that year with what 2013 I mean he was still pretty [ __ ] productive player I don’t think he got a goal but he was I mean one it went off his ass I remember Oh sha right uh Biz I got those numbers
Right here from Yager from 93 to 2001 McDavid from 16 to 24 each had five scoring titles MVP finalist five times uh and five 570 games Yaga had 346 goals 859 points McDavid had 308 goals 873 points wow basically uh three-point difference on a 82 game pace and I guess
If you adjusted them for the era uh 607 games basically the 952 points for Jager 941 for McDavid it is it’s stunning how close those numbers are you know McDavid Jager might not be the first thing you think of I guess when you’re comparing uh players from different Generations but
[ __ ] and the amount of punishment he would take Buddy he was playing in that day man you could hook and hold and slap God yeah slash go round a defenseman here comes the tomahawk from Daren Hatcher oh that didn’t do enough here comes a jaw right into the nend wall
Yeah or or elbow to the jaw excuse me how about I saw a picture of uh Lemieux yoger Crosby and malcin and 15 scoring titles between them so it’s just pretty sick to think of the Penguins having four of the greatest players you know we’ve ever seen like like were together
Two of them were together for different amazing runs so it’s it’s just been it’s been a great story and it was kind of the perfect cap to his career as a penguin and I think Yer is the one who said when you think of me when people
Think of me they think of the Penguins right yeah absolutely I’m glad we kind of got sidetracked there because we skipped over the whole weekend part but you mentioned his some of his best years did he win the MVP when he had that monster year with the Rangers was he
Like the heart winner and all that I I believe so I believe he did let me check and then uh adjusted for inflation I wonder what those guys were making like at the at the like in the late 90s some guys making 10 10 and a half million
What would that be considered to today’s day if it’s late 90s it’s like the those guys were making more way more then than they are now yeah no I’d say probably 20 million if you were adjust for inflation ball that’s what I’d guess wow uh Thorton got MVP That season Yer had 54
Goals 123 points and’ 05 6 and and thoron got MVP that was the year he was traded he won the heart in 99 is is the year Yer won it so I guess we can start with our hoken New York trip and I mean we got in on Thursday the coolest thing
Uh one of the coolest things of the weekend that were was non hockey related at least to the the metti experience was AR’s movie I went to the movie screening for the late game what a time that was so Jeff Zucker the guy who we originally got partnered with with the Colorado
Springs ECHL team he did a side project and it was this movie that he did with a bunch of his buddies are right like they just they all got together wrote a script very creatively I don’t know where they go somewhere and take mushrooms and write it was that what
Happened originally I didn’t hear that version of the story but it certainly wouldn’t shock me if that’s how it that’s how it out but yeah since they were little little kids him and him and um his buddy Jeff they basically talked about this for years and you know zaker
Self financed that they were only like two you know quote unquote professional actors in the movie he got a bunch of his friends who play ba League ba League games and you could kind of sort get that Essence from but BS I’ve talked about it enough what did you think about
The movie and what was that your whole your whole overall sense of everything well I was I thought it was cool that he did it with all his buddies they did it 15-day span where they were going long hours already so this was like a mom and pop project that got executed perfectly
Um I thought the the message was awesome and it was about originally the the main actor at the start of the movie you could tell he’s going through a breakup they go over that pretty vaguely and quick where he bumps into an old buddy that they played uh um men’s league one
Night together and you know you could tell the guy’s in a bit of a rut because of the breakup and the guy kind of entices him hey come out to men’s league tonight so you know after giving it thought and the guy’s kind of very persistent about it he ends up coming
Out to the men’s league game and it’s just a very fun Dynamic about how the other team where there with a bunch of Heroes where they had all the good players where they had the guy who took it way too seriously uh you know uh Zach
Bell was in it as that team sniper who was just like filthy with the hands but was kind of like giving it back to the guy who was taking too seriously and then all of Ra’s team or sorry all of um Jeff zucker’s team they were just a
Bunch of plugs who were doing it for fun in the stories they had a couple pthe head pthe heads on the team and it just did a good job of describing the whole full Dynamic of men’s league and what it’s about and how it kind of got this
Guy out of this rut in his life and Ra was the um he was like the grumpy Zamboni driver and he did a he did a tremendous job R I thought you crushed it I thought in terms of acting you had far more lines than I expected you were
Definitely much more of a main character than I expected but your acting your acting was incredible I I was so happy for you so bravo r I thought it was tremendous boys I honestly I I mean I know you know we had a busy schedule a
Lot going it met the world to me that you guys mer and memes came to it cuz you know I know we had a lot C on and people tied hung over so I want to thank you guys for coming it it did mean a ton
And the fact he enjoyed it and had nice things to say made it even better so thank you guys it really did mean a lot to me game buddy we we always want to support a teammate we love the Arts too so so doing stuff like that and you
Branching out is huge buddy I hope you keep doing it I mean it’s like this shy you know you’re just going to get keep offering or getting offered excuse me more roles um and I thought it was smart that they did they obviously did this because of the meti experience knowing
That people would be in town so they rented a local theater for a showing on on uh it was Friday at 3:30 and 9:30 was there showings on Saturday as well I no but they did one in between 3:30 and 9:30 for a bunch of NHL uh guys in the
NHL office they came over that wanted to see it as well so yeah it’s definitely going to be a word of mouth thing I don’t know it’s most likely going to hit Amazon by the end of the month I think they just still crossing te’s and Dot
And eyes but it should be available for rent by the end of the month and yeah I hope everybody gives it a wh it’s a fun little movie there’s never been a be League movie before and you know you can [ __ ] see me be [ __ ] angry and
Pissed off like real method act that I had going that I love it it was a it was a good kickoff to the weekend and then later that night we had the the pink Whitney appearance that was awesome and that was at what Texas Arizona yeah Texas Arizona right in downtown hob
Bulan right by the path awesome awesome spot and you know posha on the mic yeah that was that was classless just what the hell you doing posha Jesus he’s getting real comfortable I think at this point boys it’s time for a sussy I don’t
Know if he’s on right now but I think a four pod sussy sounds about appropriate the way he’s been handling himself lately especially with the fact that on Hockey Night in Canada after hours with Scott Oak they brought up a clip of of posha and or excuse me it was of Brock
Brock besser defending having defend his [ __ ] teammate on the podcast about being a Power Play Merchant why don’t we roll it uh your teammates are often asked what’s JT Miller really like and the answer seems to be consistently that look he’s a good teammate and all he
Wants to do is win so Brock besser was on a recent episode of spit and chicklets and he was as per usual asked about you I think the question came from Pasa and a comment he’s a part of the split spitting chicklets crew the comment that he made was that you had
Succeeded because you were a power play Merchant this was Brock besser’s response yeah I wouldn’t say that’s true I think the the reason I score five on five is because of MSY I me I think I personally think MSY is one of of the
Best uh guys down low at the puck in the league it’s hard to get from him like he’s he’s so good yeah so did Brock B nailed it oh he killed it perfect look like I pay him to say that no it’s uh you know Brock and I
Are really good buddies I think our relationship has come so far since our first year here um like I said other guys I feel like we can talk about anything together and uh played a lot of hockey games you know as linemates and um we’re still pushing each other I
Think we’re getting to that point where we’re really hungry and trying to feed off each other and stuff like that do you know I don’t know what you think you know how disgusted he must have been he’s like like he must want to murder posha and I really hope he does and like
Obviously like JT Miller is just proven posha wrong time and time again he’s got two goals today by the way he’s got two goals today they’re winning five to oh sorry he just got the hattrick come on no way that just [ __ ] happen you’re [ __ ] with us he’s got a
Hatrick he just got a hattrick they’re up five to two right now POS is such a loser but I mean for but you know what I’m saying like Miller’s like on after hours is big deal and he’s like I’m answering questions about this [ __ ] posha like get you idiot
Got a hat today this is the wor this is turning out to be the worst take of all time oh no posha say your peace because it’s going to be a four pod sussy we won’t even anytime we say your name it’s going to get bleeped off the Pod nobody
Will know you exist other than the sandbagger we have coming out what do you have to say to yourself I listen have a message to the city of Vancouver and the fans of the Canucks um I know I made some controversial takes earlier this year and after lots of reflection
And and watching the level that JT Miller has been performing at all year you know I really feel that this needs to be said to the city of Vancouver you are welcome you are welcome if it wasn’t for me lighting a fire under his ass with those comments
He would still be the mediocre five on five bad defensively power play Merchant bom that he been for years so just like Biz galvanized the Rangers with his chirps I lit a fire under Miller’s ass and you’re welcome City Banker you’re welcome and I would even go so far as to
Say if the K’s going to run and win a cup I think I deserve a ring we need a mute button B we need a godamn mute but acid with you [ __ ] weedies this morningly I will I will say that is something that I would say so I feel
Like I’ve been hanging out with him too much and it is rubbing off on him I will take partial responsibility for this but as as of right now I have the gavl in my hands four pods sussy posi you’re gone that’s it four pods we will not say
His name other than I guess if we’re going to talk about the sandbagger we have a special one coming out soon sha Avery and we’re gonna be talking about the devil so oh my God now Shan Avery’s name’s coming up him and Kevin connley put on an absolute show we end up going
Into should we say don’t say anything don’t bleep it out bleep it out we have an awesome sandbagger coming up soon and also let’s talk about the Vlog right now before we get into the MetLife experience we have an amazing amazing Vlog hitting the YouTube channel on Wednesday of the entire Allstar
Experience this is the most star studded Vlog I’ve ever seen shout out to sha apuzzo posha there there’s one more bleep it and Elliot fish who did all the editing I believe incredible job incredible Vlog we got Wayne Gretzky in it uh Sam Reinhardt Sebastian a AO um
Will Arnett mesy who’s now the [ __ ] star of the show do you have any other names you want to throw in there I think without a doubt the funniest part of this Vlog is Terry Ryan Senor showing up out of nowhere no one knew this guy was
Coming he just arrives in the green room after the show but there’s actually a lot of cool elements this Vlog where like we’re showing the like behind the scenes of the live show and leading up all day to the show and US thinking of the ideas of the show and it’s it’s
Probably our best episode of chicklets TV yet and it’s coming up out 6 pm. Wednesday and you can find that on all video platforms oh yeah your boy buoy was in it quite a bit too Biz actually I we’re not done SE and Pasha so when
Conor badad uh broke his job me and me and PAs have a steak dinner uh wager on how many goals bad’s gonna have 31 and a half so when he broke his job January he sent me a [ __ ] text with his venmo he’s like in case you want to tidy up
Your bookkeeping early in January for a guy with a broken JW I was like are you [ __ ] stoned he got [ __ ] what he got 16 goals he got 27 games left to [ __ ] score 16 more to hit this thing but like who tries to cash out a [ __ ]
Season long bet in January I think we got to go six [ __ ] episodes on now bit wow all right you don’t normally come over the top on guys well he’s usually getting sussy six six episodes I mean come on [ __ ] if you want to tidy up come on that’s [ __ ] shinty as hell
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Your first bet loses only on draftking Sportsbook with the code chicklets the crown is yours Stadium Series Biz great time I think everybody who won had a blast I know know people would complain about the outdoor games for whatever reason and like you said it’s for the people
There but I think everyone really enjoyed it I mean bman was on Good Morning America today for 5 10 minutes with straight hand talking about it it seemed like the NHL really like actually owned the weekend quite a bit for once so hopefully they can uh make this an
Annual tradition like Johnny Lazarus right gee he said make it like a be this maybe this sparked a whole debate online right I think Johnny Lazarus was the first one to to kind of tweet this out saying should this be an every year thing from experiencing it my myself I
Think that hockey needs more festival type days especially on the weekends like it’s basically a full day you bring your kids early you get to get go through all these different experiences maybe in different Lots like some lots are more for like partying and drinking and tailgating others like I went and
Did something for discover where you got to take photos with fans they have the big air hockey table out they have a a shooting thing this was incredible they even did a a Jonas Brothers concert two hours before the show a full concert not just a few songs full concert awes hey
I’m I don’t typically crank the Jonas Brothers but I thought every tune like I was like oh I know the song I know the song they Rock the place you got to get into the uh Arena at 6 o’clock they did that all the way up to game time at 8
O00 uh holy [ __ ] the amount of Devil’s fans that were there and from the fandom experience both games looked basically sold out it was awesome the energy was incredible Rangers and Devils fans took over though it was kind of expected for um for because Philly was out of
Territory disappointed at the amount of Isles fans but the games the show they put on and everything leading up was [ __ ] 10 out of 10 I think that this should be an every year thing and G you brought up a good point where we were talking earlier this afternoon you seem
To think that the uh there should be an outdoor experience for the NHL All-Star Game even I think I think move the allstar game outdoors I think you know if we’re going to if we’re we’re it’s all about the fans right we talk about all the time about how these outdoor
Events the All-Star Game all these NHL Marky events it’s about the fans in person so why not put it outdoors I even said go to Quebec City bring it up to Quebec City that would be an awesome awesome time have a winter festival out there and just do make it this big party
I think you could beome I know but it turns into the numbers game where where the the owners want the gate that’s like why they want those All-Star games is because they get all the money from it yeah but but you get a bigger gate at an
Outdoor stadium more people are I know how that would work that’s a cool idea yeah I I in terms of like every year doing it I mean you could do like the four those four teams you just did and then another year you could do um Boston Montreal Toronto and like say buffalo
Another year you could do Vancouver Winnipeg Edmonton Calgary another year you could do uh Dallas mini like Nashville Colorado like you could kind of do like four division Rivals obviously I mentioned teams in different divisions there but it would be pretty sick idea to to every year maybe switch
It to like four teams and then every four four or five years they play and it’s like one of those things cuz that that weekend was awesome and and in terms of the actual games that’s what I like they were even though it was 63 the
First night it was closer game than that it felt like yeah yeah know it was good good action for sure now uh it made sense though because of the amount of population that you could sell out of building that big backto back games um I I would definitely like to see them like
You said come back every three four years now you say for the like a four team Meetup would you do it in like Calgary and then have the Battle of Alberta and like what other two teams would you have come meet it well it could be like van and Winnipeg like in
Terms of western Canada you know what I mean and like actually quickly about this week they they obviously announced like 150,000 for both games what was it sold out was it just one of those announced sellouts or was it completely packed I don’t know Saturday looked [ __ ] Sund Sunday was 100% sold out
I’d say on on Saturday they did this thing behind the net where they had pyro Tech it was like a full section of just like fire just coming out I don’t think they would I don’t think they’d waste a full section I don’t know if they sold all the tickets there but Sunday
Completely sold out nice yeah they didn’t they didn’t have that back stop where the Jonas brothers were on Sunday no no the fireal sh I didn’t even oh jeez maybe I should I didn’t even notice that a bunch of sections were like blocked off and they sort of put the top
On over it but uh yeah 7,328 the first game 79,000 690 the second game so like you said with over 150,000 hockey fans so great weekend go ahead Biz I don’t know what the viewership was but doing these types of things after football’s done I know I know this might sound contradictory to
My start doing all games on Sundays and go head-to-head I might hey much like or unlike posha I might be willing to take the L on this one but doing it after that and as far as winter Classic’s concerned like could you bump that back even a little bit farther
Maybe do more that are that’s all about all about like New Year’s Day right I mean I don’t know okay what do you think college football is like stagnant popularity wise or a dipping or going up because I mean I don’t know it feels like there college football’s going up
But then all I do is kind of read people bitching about the transfer portal and I think there’s a lot of aspects of college football that piss people off but I don’t know the the the entertainment Factor might be better for college football than the NFL right like
There’s just there’s it just seems like so many n games end up being kind of shitty where college football obviously there’s the BLTs with the top dogs play the little guys but I don’t know that’s a great question I I I do love the fact though I love that next year we’ll be
Going to um Columbus for for Detroit and Columbus at at at Ohio State stadium what’s that place called I Ohio stadium yeah the Horseshoe though it’s everyone knows it the horo that that will be unreal that’s the perfect area you know the the Rivalry of Michigan and Ohio
That’s going to be great that was an awesome announcement to see so I I I love it you know like people kind of [ __ ] about the outdoor games you said it har but I don’t know man it’s just it’s 82 games it’s a little different something else to watch looks a little
Different on TV I I great for the fans there I don’t see what what the complaints are about it like you’re okay so you’re watching um Devil’s Flyers at the Flyers Arena or Devil’s Arena instead like why wouldn’t you want to watch it the way we did exactly it’s an
Event and if you’re there it’s [ __ ] awesome and speaking of the devils boys i i a idiot boy Pasha told me that over the All-Star break I guess Lindy Ruff he changed their defensive structure a little bit like try to help out the goal tending and and try to figure out a way
To get this team somehow in the playoff race well they’re in the race but back on track in terms of last year the way they played buddy they look pretty good they’re giving up less chances and giving up way less goals too I know Daws is playing awesome they kind of f
Obviously found him and he’s going right now but all these Devils fans who hate Lindy Ruff it seems like he did a legit thing a nice little move changing the structure and getting them to be better defensively because they look like a different team we got to talk about the
[ __ ] Sopranos uniforms I know it’s it’s the off fights they definitely won the game and they won the off fight they look so [ __ ] they did look like a bunch of dudes from the not then with they were G to come over the bridge and Jack
Me up for not paying my tab or something they looked unbelievable at those getups on yeah and and and Bastion he like he hasn’t scored much and he still had the I think he said after I already prepared if I scored the uh the is it Tommy
DeVito like that was perfect and he kind of skated by a teammate who went to hug him but that that’s a good reason to do that you know he get the hand out of the glove the old Italian I don’t even know what that what does that mean like like
Forg Italian talk the hands like what are you [ __ ] kid kid I skev that yeah right now Devil’s get these on the shoulder patches hey the fighting Italian they get the on the shoulder patches plus they [ __ ] did jerseys I think they were the best of the four all
Weekend but the double jerseys were [ __ ] 10 out of 10 sweet Five Points back on the wild card right now they do have two games in hand uh fly is third in the Metro at 65 points fly has also named uh Sean Couture the 20th captain
Of Team history uh but Whit I want to go back to you with Jack Hughes that the quote was going around about goalies G why don’t you run that for us I don’t know I mean uh doy played really well so when you get the saves uh much easier to
Win so uh great game out of him did was he getting too much heat for this was he really chirping his goalies would just answer the question okay so the way you guys told me that this at dinner on Wednesday night before the Chicklets cast or whatever it was Tuesday night
And and and it was worded different to me cuz right away I was like what he said that and then once I watched the clip it was it was definitely different than how it was described to me still I there is some sort of sense of like yeah
Like you know when we get saves we can win it’s it’s a very obvious fact and I’m sure there’s been a ton of frustration within the Devils this year like it does suck man when you’re playing what you think’s pretty decent hockey and then it seems like every time
You need a save you can’t get one it’s been their whole season I think it’s been openly publicly discussed that the Devils have zero goal ending and it’s switched a little bit with Daws lately but I said right away like I just don’t think you’d ever hear like Crosby or or
Uh Taves when he was playing and and McKinnon like kind of throwing a goalie under the bus that way I don’t think he did once you heard it it was a lot more innocent than whoever told me made it sound but it’s it definitely was a little noticeable now here’s the thing
It’s the truth said a flat out fact like yeah when we get saves it’s we’re going to win some games so it was I I I kind of overreacted at dinner because what I was told sounded way different than how it actually sounded and then after that
Was right on the ice and then after the game I think he went into it even more in depth and made it sound a lot more normal like yeah you know what I mean like we need everyone to step it up the goalie’s got to play well we all got to
Do our job but in terms of like calling out your goenda of anyone ever doing that Biz I’m not saying he did but do you know what I mean no yeah like when we read out the quote that was just on the internet it it didn’t sound great but once we kind
Of realized the whole context of it it wasn’t that bad and it also might have been a little bit more Amplified because uh I don’t know if it was the same game where he or maybe the next one where he was barking at the guy in the Box
Basically people it was arvitson yeah people pay to watch me play where it’s like well no lies detected Crosby say that either yeah they weren’t going to watch me I know that you know Knuck drag it around and give the [ __ ] linesmen water bottles during the timeouts and
And then clean up the snow between where the where the door is no but uh buddy like he he’s balancing it fine like it’s it’s been a frustrating season for them and like really as a group their real big first bout of adversity with expectations being where they’re at and
Whit going back to what you’re saying like the defensive Zone structure and the fact that there might be help on the way the thing that needs to happen is if this group once they get healthy and they have all their guys going if they
Can look down the room and look at a guy like markstrom in their net and the amount of respect that they would have for Mar is not just a goalie he’s a leader in the locker room he’s a man of presence where when you look at him like
He commands respect that’s what I think they need I don’t know if they’re going to end up getting them but if they get that and they can package it with tanv once they kind of get their mojo back and everybody healthy h that like the we
The the East is not that strong that to me would be a very scary matchup they they to me with with that if they make up that markom trade outside of Florida they’re my second team is I that I would love the most what no wow bu the Leafs
Dude what do you mean I’m I’m I’m proud I’m no but I’m saying I’m saying from a realistic perspective with all of the pieces with all of the pieces I think that the what the Leafs are doing right now was incredible without Morgan Riley I [ __ ] love the way they’re playing I
Love are they relying heavily on their stars are they getting a little that M McMan kid that’s fun to watch let’s not hop into them quite yet I was just trying to give praise to the devils and what what they can kind of pull out of
Their ass given the fact up until right now this year’s been hell yeah and I wonder what actually broke down that markstrom deal apparently was that close and then at the end boom talks are off so you wonder like was it retention money like who knows a prospect through the night
That’s when you just love to be inside be a be a fly on the wall and hear like oh my God if they were that close like what changed it but what what really sucks is since then the the Flames are [ __ ] and we’ve always talked markstrom
Like hates hearing this stuff he doesn’t want to hear any of it and they went to him and he agreed that he would go to Jersey and boom it falls apart and now the team struggled and Marky who’s had a great year he struggled a little bit so
It’s it kind of was a kick in the dick for both teams right but yeah if if the Devils could get a legit stud goal goie a little help on D the other thing is if they get in the playoffs all of a sudden
You got Hamilton back so I I don’t I I agree B like you don’t want to play them in the first round but if they get in and then they’re the eighth seed and then it looks like I think it’s I think Florida’s going to end up getting the
Number one seed obviously the Rangers are above them right now but Florida is Florida’s a different animal they are they are just bullies with skill and goenda great D it’s just it’s an incredible team so I don’t know if anyone’s going to be able to get by them
Let alone the fir let let him R the entire Eastern Conference but the first round might be real tough for whoever gets him but I would like to see Jersey in personally I think they’re an exciting team I love watching Hughes play he showed up big time in that game
Man that guy was flying around he’s the leader of the team that’s what Pasha said when we were talking about the Hughes thing he’s like oh well first off he Pasha thought that he called out the goalies publicly because he’d already gone to Fitzgerald and complained about
The goang and he was trying to put more public pressure on the GM I said posha you’re [ __ ] insane and he’s sticking to his gun standard to how posha does things but it is a fun team to watch it is very fun all those things you just
Heard out of wit’s mouth are factors in the decision to suspend him for their pod by the way all of that stuff behind the scenes if you’re wondering uh oh one other thing that was pretty cool uh Jake Clemens he played the national anthem on a saxophone uh
His dad was the the big man and uh Bruce Bry the East Street Band Clarence Clemen you know the big black guy who played the saxophone passed away a few years ago that was his son who come play the sacks you know the national anthem that was that was awesome stuff incredible it
Was an incredible Anthem 10 out of 10 yeah it was good [ __ ] also we also B we bumped into Jonesy rer and uh Kenny Dano too before we headed into that first game nice to catch up with those guys dude Jones’s [ __ ] hilarious like he just comes over he’s like what’s up AR
What’s going like he’s just like it’s like almost like not a joke to him but he’s just like [ __ ] got a smile on his face the shitty grin that he’s the president just like no bad days for Jonesy man he’s always happy he’s always got a smile on his face great great
Couple great guys to to bump bump into but the most favorite part of my weekend is after Lou try to suck the fun out of it they go up three [ __ ] goals and they blow it again before we get into that game one of the one of the most
Enjoyable games this year I guess because of the setting but then just how it all went down but let’s talk about Matthew rempe guys what a first NHL game first off he gets to do the the rookie lap in front of 75,000 his first game that’s incredible right you’re skating
Around nobody’s behind you and you’re just looking around I can’t imagine how he was feeling and then his first game first shift he gets in a tilt one second played and he already had a fight in the NHL Matt Martin he’s a monster uh just a
Big guy came up and what was really cool R you you you told me that it was six days six years to the day of his father passing away so like I don’t know maybe like right now I’m visiting my parents it’s like the kid was 15 years old and
Lost his dad and he gets out there he gets the hat for player of the game after gave an awesome little speech in the locker room you know I can’t imagine how tough it was for him losing his dad at such a young age and then he’s out
There in the NHL at MetLife Stadium he’s getting in a fight like that was such a cool story like that’s what hockey’s all about right you know you bring back like memories of this kid skating outside as a youngster that’s his first game and then getting the player the game after
Like I think krider gave it to him because he had a hat trick the game before and you could tell the team was so fired up it was just an awesome story to see that kid and what a monster and then they had the other wing on that
Fourth line 67 who’s the other kid I don’t know his name two 6′ s guys on the Rangers and hey we gotta give a shout out to Matt Martin too because uh Adam EST Adam estro I believe is his name yeah Ry said that you know like at the you know the
Line out for the face off mtin said hey you know you want a goal I gave him the opportunity to sort of make his bones there and he really respected that just you know B that’s obviously something you used to you know be be your Forte
That type of stuff but just the fact that5 that OPP to be given that opportunity from a guy like Matt Martin who’s that respected and that’s like a a cool thing to be able to tell your kids someday that that was my first NHL fight
Off of a off off a draw right hadn’t even barely played a second I ended up running into his uh mother and two sisters who were up there and like the mother was just over the moon electric and she’s like I’m like oh my God you
Must be so nervous like the rookie lap and then the fight she goes I normally don’t drink this is my third and and so they were just having a ball up there me too it’s Adam edrum edrum sorry about that so just an awesome experience and
For them to come and storm back in that game oh what an incredible experience and like I said man the amount of Rangers fans and how that building would erupt and they’re ruthless they were interviewing uh was it pal Mary on the Jumbotron G and then they just they just
Kept booing you couldn’t even like you couldn’t even hear hear what he was saying you couldn’t hear a single thing it was insane I’m like okay that’s like some real [ __ ] hate so that was my first ever real experience between the Rangers and Islanders rivalry and it’s uh it’s
Pretty gruesome so hey and I made it out of alive and I didn’t get shanked so I was very proud of myself how about the fact that they hadn’t played since 2022 those two teams that really yeah because they played their four games before January 1st of the 2223 season
And then this year’s season they didn’t play till they didn’t play till the calendar changed again so it had been like 480 days or whatever since the Isles and Rangers played and they gave us one of the best games of the season I mean the Islanders man their penalty
Kill is a disaster the same way the power play for the Penguins might keep them out of the playoffs the Islanders they can’t they can’t kill a penalty so you look to what’s going to cost them I saw a tweet I think they’ve blown like 12 or 13 third period leads this season
It just seems like they can’t close the door I don’t know what you guys thought about that hooking call um that gave him their first Power Play was at the end of the third was that on Barz Keandre Mill because I I was like I tweeted out yikes and everyone was like
Oh you don’t know nothing about hockey that’s a penalty all day I was like what are you talking about that was giny as [ __ ] dude everyone on Twitter’s like oh that was a penalty I like [ __ ] soft ass little [ __ ] no it wasn’t you know
I took away you know what I took away from the third period at one point I looked up I think shots were 40 to 19 Islanders and Biz you said a couple episodes ago since was come in there the Islanders are getting 35 40 shots a game it’s different team so they’re
Dominating that game they got they got two three-goal leads whatever it was but the third period with the Rangers on the power play I think they had like 10 or 11 power shots on the power play but just a reminder as a defenseman a guy who leaned a little offense on the
Defenseman side Adam Fox is a joy to watch play hockey I mean the assist on the tying goal like he just has I never seen a guy just like fake people out with just little shoulder and head fakes the way he does he’s not he’s never moving that fast it’s like a little
Little slight of hand little head look one way drops a shoulder and guys go like flying by him he always has he always knows what he’s going to do with it before he gets it I I love watching him play he’s like the funnest guy to
Watch half the puck and just the fact that he’s like slow I’ll say he’s kind of slow but it doesn’t affect him at all because his angles defensively are awesome and then with the puck there is zero Panic like the guy never it seems
Like he has no pulse with it and then he makes dishes all the time that are sick gross wait it’s so funny you brought that up first period we were sitting like right in the corner and he he got a puck dumped in his corner and he had a
Guy on his ass and he dodged him but then he was going up the wall side there was a guy coming down the wall and I’m like ah he’s probably just going to try to punt this and there’s no way that he can squeeze through the like get to the
Middle and he just brought it right to the middle and he dodged both guys and and I’m like that was like what the [ __ ] was that he’s so slippery he’s so good on his edges and he kind of has this little hop about him but he’s not the
It’s like I don’t know man he’s just kind of cracked the code on the back end for not being a guy who’s that electrically fast and I don’t think that what he does is that teachable you know what I mean it’s super just like like
You’re not going to be able to like show kids clips of him and be like yeah do this because it’s just so natural the way he does things I guess at Harvard uh talking to different Scouts he was the same thing probably even more dominant
In college but a lot of Scouts were like I don’t know man like he’s not that fast and like yeah this is college and he’s doing the exact same thing in the NHL it’s like the foot speed thing doesn’t really matter when you have that ability
To just make these fakes all the time and it’s just I don’t I don’t know maybe I I just appreciate it more being a defenseman realizing how hard it is to always get shots through and just always Dodge that one check but that guy is so
Nasty with the puck it it’s it’s Sergey Zub he’s Sergey zubov so I think he leads the league and oh I think they got him oh how the [ __ ] did he slip out of that one like every [ __ ] time so yeah he’s a treat to watch that’s a great
Point yeah it was that also the highest scoring outdoor game ever with 11 goals uh also what just you just mentioned they hadn’t played in that long a time it was the first fight in a regular season Rangers Islanders game since November of 2021 that’s kind of pathetic
When you think about it that long without a fight between those two [ __ ] hated Rivals I mean obviously he indicative of the way the league is now but that kind of surprised me a wee bit no I mean [ __ ] two and a half years without a scrap uh also too uh we want
To send out our best wishes along to Blake wheeler the the reason repe was called up because Blake wheel I don’t know if you saw the clip it was tough to watch you know H hurt his lower leg he’s going to be out for the rest of the
Season you know he’s obviously on the back nine of his career so hopefully he can get back out there and not end his his career like that and I’m sure being a hockey player that’s not how he’s going to go out so I just want to pass
Our best wishes along to him and also the ranges you know they come out with the FDNY NYPD guys and I think the aisles they are they are getting [ __ ] for coming with the suits but it it should be noted they also came in with a
Bunch of cops and firemen as well they came in on the truck so I think a lot of people might have didn’t weren’t aware of that or whatever because they were getting [ __ ] on because of the suits but you know they were what the cops and the
Jakes do so I just want to make sure people are aware of that so I know we were just being a little silly I think he probably did that not to overshadow the the you know the men and women of service so that’s why yeah Lou being Lou
Being classy maybe we should back off him a little bit especially after that tough tough third period loss again that’s the thing Squan baky the Giants I running back he was at the game tweet hockey games are really lit it’s nice to see you know people get into the game as
Well we mentioned Johnny L but um also you just mentioned what the outdoor game next year in Columbus also irelands is going to host the 2026 All-Star game at UBS Arena the Devils saers I was pissed at first but then I was talking to my buddy Jeff and he goes they might have
Done that just to keep it logistically easy because they’re going to be going to the Olympics right after that so to agree them for them to come to go from New York to fly to it’s in Italy right 2026 so I don’t know I thought that was
Smart but a lot of people online and they’re right Detroit deserves an All-Star game because they they often reward them to new buildings of the new buildings built Little Caesars arena is easily the nicest that brick wall and the character and how nice all the seats
Are the the vibe in that Arena I think they deserve after UBS they deserve the next All-Star Game unless it’s outdoors like G grelli suggested uh also I this is not new news but the devils and saves they got to kickoff next season in Prague I I don’t know if Merl uh POS
Gonna go there they’re saying they’re gonna uh then in November the stars and Panthers they’re GNA play in uh is it Tamp Finland is that how you pronounce it with I have no idea I’d never been but how about granelli sends me a video so mer has been stat side for what like
28 days his wife’s an absolute Saint he’s got two little kids at home so he’s leaving today he has a flight at 5:00 and and it’s like he I think it’s like 16 hours of travel when he lands in Stockholm it’s like a 4H hour train up
Northern Sweden so he always talks about last night he has to take it easy because the travel day you got you can’t be hung over going to the travel day granelli sends me a video at like 8:00 of a bartender pouring these mon vodka drinks and then he just pans over to
Merl and he’s like tonight’s the night I’m like oh my god dude every every night this trip every night this trip Merl would just say tonight’s the Night Boys tonight’s the night so I texted uh I texted him I said oh my God M you must be hurting and he responded about five
Hours later he goes I’ll never learn how about uh how about last night I had a date and I brought a grenell I brought mesy and I brought Merl so we did like brought three guys to a date what a guy my God what was the date Paul date
We went to this unbelievable Italian restaurant that found great spot and that and and that’s where I think Merles went off the deep end he started to get into the red wine and he gets a certain Vibe when he’s having his red wine all the respect in the world to this young
Lady who put up with us for for the whole meal but memes he was firing out the story she even today she was like oh those guys were [ __ ] characters she loved did you guys see memes’s Instagram story at like 1:00 a.m. last night of him
Just he just it was just him pissing off the end of the pier and noen on the chicklet memes account come on come on memes clean it up he’s like oh this water’s cold come on clean it up oh [ __ ] well I I did just mention at
Tamp Finland what of their native Sons probably the biggest story of the week uh yamoo Keanan was fired from Columbus he was there for 11 years the first first European born GM in the NHL uh president of hockey hops John Davidson he’s going to assume the GM role on an
Interm basis he going to oversee the transition when they hire the next GM uh Biz were you surprised that yamamo was the only guy who could fighted considering what you know what went down earlier this season and just has been kind of a clust the [ __ ] of a year for
Them uh because I I don’t know how much the beginning of the year played a factor into it I would imagine it’s you know a pro what do you what do you mean you think they just wanted to let it breathe but I I also don’t think 100%
Reason why I mean look at how long I think when you’ve had a GM who’s kind of they’ve struggled for quite a while what I’m saying then you hire a coach and then the guy doesn’t coach one game like yes I’m saying but okay so do you think
That that plays 25 to 35% of a factor as to why he’s not the GM if this team was having more success and maybe in a playoff hunt we wouldn’t be having this conversation but how long was he a 10-year GM I would say close to 10 10
Years 11 years he was there 11 years how many times did they go to playoffs like where are they at from an organizational organizational perspective and and also maybe the the the lack of production over the last couple years given the high draft picks they’re not seeing
Results but what do you what percentage do you think it has to do with what happened at the beginning of the year in hiring Babcock 50% of it m I don’t know that’s hard like maybe half maybe a little less obviously comes down to the success of the team so ra
Said five playoff appearances in 11 years and one time they got past the first round right ra yeah they won the they beat Tampa that year then they did win that qualifying round during the bubble thing that doesn’t count that doesn’t count okay just yeah so it’s
Just it’s first off I couldn’t believe it was 11 years he’d been there right that was a long time but you know what like in the end they haven’t had success they’ve had some they’ve had just some like maybe some weird signings and like
I don’t know but it all in all man if you’re if you want to be a GM like that’s a that’s a pretty nice spot to be able to interview for and possibly get like with fan Tilly and and jurich and like some other young guys they got all
These Russians that are good they got China C all these different dudes that are pretty nice young players I think a decent amount of them have to be signed after this year or next year but man I I I I do think the future’s bright in Columbus I know this year’s been a
Disaster and they it started off on the wrong foot completely but I think in in the end in a couple years you’re going to be able to see a really good team now obviously they need a little bit more of goodro who’s played way better like lately as opposed to the beginning of
The season but in the end Biz I I think that that was kind of the nail in the coffin man if you’re going to go out on the limb and make this huge higher and the guy doesn’t get to one game like that’s going to end up being the end of
It and but but at the same time already right like why is Davidson still have a job yeah that’s well how long has how long has he been there he’s probably he been there forever no he he was there there he went to New York yeah he left
He went to the Rangers and then they brought him back and that’s what it is it seems like On’s fall in love with like certain owners fall in love with certain Executives because you know he came back he’s been there I think the last three or four years but I mean
Yamamo didn’t make that higher in decision in a vacuum he didn’t do that by himself you know what I mean like so I I don’t know if the owners just love Davidson I mean that that doesn’t I would say have a dynamite track record as far as getting victories there and I
Think some of that probably does fall on him well I think that he’s also partly there to consult on who he believes should be the next GM now I don’t know how how much his hands in the cookie jar as far as Personnel decisions I would
Assume that he had a lot of influ influence on the Babcock one and that’s where maybe you’re surprised as to why he still has the job I don’t know I think like I said I don’t want to put too much stake onto the Babcock thing I think like bringing in Patrick l hasn’t
Necessarily worked out but I also understand the pressures and being a GM there and trying to bring in big names it’s a challenge but I also think that you have to GM based on where you are and I feel like you’re you’re kind of like a Seattle you have to build out
This roster of just worker bees you’re not going to have the luxury of bringing in these big name free agents because you’re in Columbus and like I’m not [ __ ] on Columbus I would love to live there the players who play there love it there you live like a god I mean
There’s a reason that Johnny gudo went there it’s like you know maybe when things aren’t going so well you don’t have that external pressure when you’re bumping into people at the grocery store they’re saying hey how you doing maybe they don’t even ask you for a photo but
They ain’t [ __ ] telling you hey what’s up with the [ __ ] power play Johnny come on man got to start hitting L back door buddy I I think that those fans deserve more though that is an unreal fan base they’ve been packing that building for for years dude and
Here’s the other thing like it hasn’t just been Babcock this season was a disaster in a lot of different aspects right so we’ve had mle and saying I’m done I want to trade we’ve had EUR saying I like I shouldn’t be in the miners what the [ __ ] going on the
Coaches benching G like it’s been like a bunch of different things that have kind of added up to just you know a full-blown disaster of a season now the good thing is they probably end up with another high draft pick hopefully they they make the right decision and they
Get another guy but Biz you’re right it’s first off the whole league you to have a successful team you got to build through the draft but there there especially you you don’t see a ton of guys signing there I know goodro did recently but you you got to have good
Drafts you got to build from within so that’s what they’re going to have to do but in terms of the future the fan base is great the Arena’s awesome it’s a good City granelli says top three in the in the world I think he saidis ban Columbus
It is that’s why they that’s why they drafted all those Russians it’s like Moscow it’s like the same thing right like that’s the that’s the draw in there and and Whit I’ll say this I think the number one component to it all is fanelli and the fact that they have
Buyin from him in that market right now so Davidson you got about you know two three years before certain guys will get fed up with okay I’m not going to be in a big Market we can’t turn things around I [ __ ] put my heart and soul into
This like how long did it take for them to try to get it together for Rick Nash I mean 20 23 Seasons oh sorry did they ever did they ever really get it together for Rick Nash how many times did he make playoffs one time like he’s
A generational talent that went to waste and yeah I don’t know that’s it’s it’s well after this year it’ll be 23 seasons one playoff victory over Tampa cuple years that’s just okay that’s just pathetic you do feel bad for the fans and that’s what going back to like well Davidson I
Thought if I was the only I would have done a full house cleaning look this we got to get the stink out of here just [ __ ] not fight everybody but you know bring in a whole new management team and just do fresh I think that’s what they probably should I think that Davidson’s
Been around enough to where um you probably want to give him an opportunity to to consult on on who you got to bring in that’s just I think he’s the type of guy who’s been around love who who needs a seat you need him with a seat at the
Table to to say these are the candidates I believe could potentially get it who else are you gonna turn who else he did with Babcock and I mean you know he he was all about getting Babcock and that fell in its face and then I think that
He felt they needed another torz and that’s how that was going to happen and he he he ain’t exactly torts he he has different uh different ways of doing it and they made a wrong decision and I don’t disagree with you r that that if you’re saying throw what do they say
Throw the something away with the bath water don’t throw the baby out with the bath water oh but in this case they should have okay hey not to change the subject but as I um was giving it to Pasha that Miller had a hattrick and that Vancouver was up 5 to2 they were
Also up 4 to one the wild just scored five goals in the first five minutes of the third period including three goals in a minute and they’re up 8 to five the six goals in a row too wait but but wait since then posha has come on the show
And said that the city of Vancouver should thank him so in retrospect posha Jinxed the Canucks today oh no oh no good point yeah B before we move along one last Lo on Columbus uh Johnny GD he did a pretty good thing he took over uh Patrick L’s pledge of $1,000 per Point
While L Lane steps away from the game to take care of his mental health pretty nice gesture man you know what I mean guys do that for their charity so I thought pretty cool that Johnny took over for my Patrick for that so good job
Johnny boys I maybe it was I don’t know it was me in the locker room that rubbed off on Austin Matthews but he’s like here we go here we go you posha now second straightway had two hattricks in a row sixth of the season a new Maple eafs record he’s got 49 goals
He had one today on Monday 73rd multi-goal game a team record got 13 career ahead he’s tied with siden Gino for third among active players ob’s got third 30 pasta get 16 of course Wayne the alltime leader with 50 uh 10 is the most in one season wayo did that twice
He got a good chance to catch him getting the MVP chance Biz you must be [ __ ] creaming your jeans over there e bud I don’t care who you are I don’t care if you hate or despise the Toronto Maple Leafs he has to be a consideration
For top three in MVPs right now I think you’re out of your [ __ ] mind if you don’t think so we’re witnessing the greatest goal scor ever since Wayne Gretzky right like at the rate it it it’s tracking that way I don’t think it’s fair to say with oie but but it’s
Tracking that way Biz and and when you said the greatest Leaf of all time the gloat like couple years ago I was laughing it’s it’s pretty much over now like bro by the end of next season he will be the all-time Leafs leading goal scorer at like 27 years old it’s [ __ ]
Insane he’s already the gloat the fact that he’s got six hatties this year it’s it’s an if you score 70 goals in today’s NHL with where defenses are at with the way that goal tending is is at and the fact that you’re not getting these [ __ ] easy goals coming over the Blue
Line sliding at five hole it’s remarkable what he’s doing he is a score a scoring machine and people will say oh that’s offensive to because oetkin scored as many as he has but Matthews since he’s been in the league is doing it at a better rate he’s the best
Modern-day goal scorer it’s like non-negotiable here any analytic will tell you that so to not consider him top three in MVP boting right now is insane if it’s not for him I don’t think the Toronto mapley are inside of a playoff spot but Whit They just won again today
I think he had a goal which what’s he at now number 49 goals in 49 goals Insanity I said that they were going to win four games of the five that Morgan Riley was suspended so now he’s won four we made a bet did we not is that three
Or four that’s four oh they already did it so I owe you some money buddy that was a great call by you that was a great call by you and and on like the way he gets his shot off like I I first off it definitely helps him and
It goes without saying he’s he’s enormous right like he’s his reach is so big that he’s able to just like you think you got to stick on him he just pushes that that extra 2 in and then his shot he just picks corners and it doesn’t matter too you see how many
Times the Puck’s rolling and he still just rips it which probably helps the goalie has no idea where it’s going but yeah he I wonder if you talk to bchi who originally like 12 years ago said Obie could break uh Gretzky’s record like I wonder what he’s saying now because mat
Like yeah you said it he’s on a better Pace than Obie was he never seems to slow down and as crazy as this coocher off season is and what an MVP race it’s going to be these final 30 games but if he gets 70 which I don’t think the
League’s had what 30 years 31 years yeah give him the MVP no doubt because it it’s just it’s unreal like you know he goes about his business and he’s better defensively than people give him credit for and if the Puck’s on his stick it doesn’t really matter where he is in the
Offensive zone he’s a chance to score we’ve I remember this year in Buffalo he scored from the goal line against the boards like he’s just such a good shooter doesn’t even really need to be looking at the net and boom it’s in the back the net red BL on it’s crazy knows
Where it is even around the net if it’s around the BL blue paint he doesn’t need to have a big windup he’s able to just find a way to get a stick on it and it just pops off his stick and goes in the net he’s just he’s a [ __ ] specimen
And he’s cracked the code and he’s the best modern day goal scorer and right now he looks like he’s gonna win the MVP and he’s gonna get he might get 75 [ __ ] goals this year and and by the way like so 29 games left whatever he has like he’s getting
Another hattick at least like once the once he a matter of time wasn’t the most in one season Wayne Gretzky had 10 hattricks in one season he did yeah he did it twice oh my god did it twice okay well there we go and and you know what you got to shout out
Mcmah too I think they’re calling him Mick Matthews he’s lighting it up he had a hattrick in between one of Matthews or two of his and then he got another one today as well so that’s a guy stepping it up that’s a a diamond in the rough
Just what the Leafs needed at this time a diamond in the rough well speaking of Canadian Legends we have one right now for you uh Peter Mansbridge for our American listeners you’re probably not familiar with him he’s basically the Walter kronite of Canada one of the most respected and
Well-liked uh media guys up in Canada he’s been retired for a few years now a very interesting conversation this guy’s traveled the world covered some of the biggest stories ever uh so hopefully you enjoy it we certainly enjoyed uh interviewing him so enjoy Peter Mansbridge all right before we go any
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Code chicklets for $20 off download game time today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed well it’s an absolute pleasure to welcome Canadian royalty to the show this newsman has been the face of Canadian media for decades and has covered some of the biggest stories in the last 50 plus years and though he
Retired a few years ago you can still check him out on his podcast the bridge thank you so much for joining us on the spit and chicklets podcast Peter Mansbridge it’s an honor to have you here Peter hey it’s an honor for me to be here you guys are uh well you’re quite
Something know our national news broadcaster forever I I’ve learn I’ve learned a whole new vocabulary listening to you guys no no what’s your favorite let’s go through the list Here Pink Whitney yeah that’s my favorite that’s awesome well Peter like learn about your early career is it’s
Crazy you said you a high school droper you join the Navy and you were you’re working at a small Airline and I um what Churchill Alberta was it Churchill Manitoba I’m sorry and and you someone overheard you doing a flight announcement and heard your voice and
Come over and off you a job in the radio that’s great yeah can you believe that no it’s unbelievable I tried to explain that to Young journalism students and they look at me like I you know from another planet but that is what happened
I mean it was a different era it was the 60s and people weren’t rushing into journalism or broadcasting at that point uh and I had this opportunity and it was one of those classics being in the right spot at the right time but somebody heard me announcing you know a flight
Transair flight 106 to Thompson the PA and Winnipeg now ready for boarding you know thisy this guy comes running over to the to the microphone he says you got a great voice he says I’m the manager of the station I can’t find anybody to do the late night shift would you be
Interested I mean this is Churchill you know population to thousand um and that’s how it started and uh then you know one thing led to another there was a bit of hard work involved as well oh yeah nevertheless that’s how how it got started so what oh go ahead no I was
Just at the beginning so you get there you don’t know what’s going on right you’ve never done anything like this like I’m imagining the first few shows were a little rough right when you’re kind of learning it yeah they were but in Churchill you could get away with a
Little rough you know um but uh you know you pick up a few tricks I was terrible at music and that’s what it hired me at but I was always fascinated with news what’s going on around you and asking questions and so I I started in edcast I
Didn’t have one there and uh that’s how I started making a name for myself first in Churchill for a couple years then Winnipeg Regina Ottawa Toronto overseas so did quite a bit of running around for 20 years a reporter and correspondent and then started anchoring from the time
He like offered you the job like how much time did it take you to think about it in order to take it was it on the spot I was making $200 a month at trans a at the airline I was working for so it didn’t take me too long to
Think about it um and so I worked days at the airline for the first year and nights at the at the radio station uh but I I something about me had always been fascinated by broadcasting so I wanted to I wanted to give it a try I
Never thought it would lead to where it led uh which was basically the top job in news in the country and uh which is exactly you laugh and go like how’d that happen because you started where they send people too like you were already there isn’t it now like people get jobs are
Like hey good job you graduated from what’s the school here what’s everyone goes to it I forget they’re like you got a job you got to go to you know York oh yeah yeah yeah know in those days it was a uh you know it was a fluke to get in
But at the same time there weren’t as I said earlier there wasn’t a lineup of people in there but it was a great Community toh to get a start in there were lot of stories you know polar bears and all you all the different issues
There a a harbor there a port and Ships coming in there was great hockey Jordan tutu’s father played there and he was a great player and people used to say Barney right Barney Barney was he a Mach was he killing people too like Jordan
Did oh he was tough he was a tough guy but a great skater a great goal scorer had a terrific stick and he um you know people used to say if any body ever came up from the NHL and saw him they’d get him in now I don’t know whether that’s
True but because not that far south in around that time you know Bobby Clark and Reggie leech were playing for the Flyn flong bombers so they were able to make a name for themselves Barney you just stayed in Churchill but then then Jordan came along so you said you had a
Fascination with news was there any point within the beginning of your career where you maybe hoped it would turn into like covering hockey or were you all set on being news you know what I mean or were not even he was too biased he was ripping on the leaf all
Time was jet although there was a time in in Manitoba the early Jets the first version of the Jets with Bobby Hull there and uh you know I was wor by that first year I was at the corner of Portage in Maine the day that they they unveil Bobby with the million dollar
Check and everything can you imagine it was a million dollars I thinkon back then right exactly you know you look at it now you go really he left that’s what Biz made big deal but I uh that first year the wh and the what was it called the AFCO or the Atco
Up yeah yeah and um I I followed him in the playoffs they played Houston and then uh New England in the old Boston Garden and I was doing like a mini documentary on his first year in the wh and you know and you guys know Bobby
Or you Bobby and he was a bit of character he would have fitted in real well on this on spit and jets but uh anyway you know we we uh got to know each other during that time and I sort of stayed in touch over the years I saw
Him just a couple of years ago not long before he passed away and he still had that handshake that could crush your boy out it was amazing quite the guy he’s got that picture right the picture of Bobby Hall when he’s just shredded in the summer like baale and hay ba and hay
And B that’s what this guy looked like that was that’s where he was at was in Belleville Ontario Beville that’s where they grew up the H that’s how they used to train back him and and Dennis who still does the circuit right denn oh yeah I see him at a few events he’s
Hilarious same jokes every time but they they are hilarious the way he delivers now we went right to when you got your offer your career um at the airport did you play growing up were you a big hockey player well you know I came over from England we were immigrants we’d live in
England and Malay I came over in the mid-50s and the first time I went into a hockey arena I think I was carrying a you know a cut off cricket bat you know like I really didn’t know what was going on but I eventually got into hockey and
I loved it I wasn’t very good but you know I used to hang out at sort of Center I us waiting you know like Colby did you know waiting for the puck to come out and then i’ to have a breakaway it was great oh you’re like me couldn’t skate
Either but uh anyway I I was never able to take it you know any further than that but it was you know it’s always been it’s always been fun it’s been a passion to to watch and when growing up in Ottawa which is where I grew up there
Was no um there was no team at that point it was the old SS were long gone the new SS hadn’t arrived and I um yeah you had to choose between basically you had to choose between red and blue you were either a haves fan or a release fan
All of my family were haves fans I picked the leavf now I picked a good decade I picked a good decade you know we haven’t seen one since those were the days like those those were the days where Cup every year and you know the miches and Dicky Duff
And the the whole gang it was uh it was fun but it’s it’s been a long time so I was glad to hear Biz the other day predicting a Vancouver Toronto that final I think that was that was on today today’s podcast that just dropped right and I just think that all
Of a sudden they’re going to ride Samson off but I am a delusional leavs fan just like the rest of the leaf fan Bas totally know we’re we’re definitely delusional but I’ll tell you the one thing you got right about that the numbers if it was Toronto Vancouver and
The final do you think it would do 20 million oh yeah I I think is that how many people are in Canada you said 40 million I think I think you’re over 20 man like the whole country be watching oh yeah oh no it would be something and
It would probably go six or seven games it would just be the place would be electric and Rogers would give everyone raises and pay bumps right they never Network by the end they just Goble up the other one you you can dream along that for sure they might actually lower
Your guy cell phone bills by 50 Cents instead of Bing you over with the strap on yeah every 100 call free um so since we’re on the hockey topic well we read that you did over 15,000 interviews during your career is that about right or is that an 20 20,000
Interviews well if you include everything back to the church old days and and all of that and you know been around the world I don’t know how many times on different big stores and so a lot a lot of interviews who who would you say was the probably the most uh the
Biggest out of the 20,000 no of of the hockey guys like following certain stories what was the most most memorable to well you know Wayne was always you know I talked to Wayne a number of times so it’s great being in this in this building that you’re using for
These shows this week um and he was always there was you’d always get something new out of Wayne always um Dr mcin what was the year they were in uh4 against Tampa there yeah the Tampa that’s right because I interviewed him in Tampa I flew down there and
Interviewed him for one of the games and um you know it was like a half hour interview he was great so I mean Lots you know lots of uh lots of great either players or or coach coaches Scotty Bowman you know and so I you know I
Never got never got Colby but youed that was difficult he charges too much trying to break through his his staff you know yeah exactly that was hard what’s it what’s maybe and when you’re starting out no experience besides making calls at the airport right uh and then getting
In there and then do you remember like your first interview or do you remember maybe early like a super bad one and you’re like what am I doing I’m just my first one my first one was bad I made the classic mistake I was so nervous about doing it this was in Churchill
That I thought okay I need they needed a feature interview for something and I said okay uh I’ll interview a friend that way it’ll be okay easy big mistake cuz we basically went over the interview and I still have it on tape you know so
I got it out of the CBC archives I want to make sure nobody ever heard of that but it sounds like we’re reading you know like yeah yeah what did you it was it was bad uh but you know I I got past that because listen the news business it’s not that complicated
Really and in a way it’s kind of like sports in the sense that you um you ask what you think people are wondering about what’s on their mind you don’t have to you know some interviews will will try to make it sound like they think they’re smarter than the person
They’re interviewing right when you’re just asking the basic questions right and you know I grew up in a family that was always talking about current events around the dinner table at night um and so I to me journalism is all about being fascinated by what goes on around you
Willing to ask questions about what’s going on around you and then sharing those answers with people are you know equally interested and uh that’s what’s about that’s what you guys do in your own particular style when you’re you’re into your riff about different things that are happening in the in the hockey
World after you became so well established and became such like a figurehead in Canada was there anyone that that still made you nervous even 20 30 years into it somebody you got you’re like oh my I got to be on my game for right now yeah not uh not any of the political
Figures um not any of the entertainment figures but usually sports figures really yeah I mean as a as a kid growing up in Ottawa my hero was the quarterback initially for the Ottawa ref Fitters then he went to Regina Ronnie Lancaster and I had to interview him somewhere in
The I guess it was the early 80s or yeah when he retired and I was in in Regina and I I was so scared panicked panicked I went to his house and I was sitting in a kind of set up like this you know he
Was in a chair and I was on the couch and I was just shaking I was so nervous and you know it surprised me because i’ by then I’d already interviewed Prime Ministers and this and that and hadn’t got overly uh uptight about it was in the White House interviewing Obama right
After he became president about a month into his his term and I thought well you’re going to be nervous about this but you were fine I was fine he was nervous of course how how’ the interview go with the the CFL quarterback L Lancaster Lancaster yeah it was uh you
Know it was fine he ended up as a great broadcaster for the CBC doing football he’s passed away now too and it it’s difficult when you start talking about these people that you interviewed and they’ve passed away yeah and you’re going uhoh this is not a good sign so as
As hockey players we typically have routines before we go you know go to the rank whatever you know belly button soup talk about your morning a morning nap or or afternoon nap what did you have a regular schedule that you would always follow it sounds like to me your job is
Pretty hectic have you seen the show The Newsroom oh yeah I bet you did yeah close they sent me the no not really well which Newsroom are we talking about is that the Jeff Daniel Danel oh the Jeff Daniels one that’s good cuz like shit’s happening you’re doing stuff and
You’re like he pushing your kids on a swing pager goes off yeah yeah no and and that’s what happens you know like I on 911 oh that morning I was in my doctor’s office it was my annual physical and I was just getting around to the part that you read off as an
Annual physical and my pager went off those are the days of a pager and I called in I said you got to get here something you know there plane just went into one of the towers and there all kinds of rumors around we don’t know what’s happening and so I said see you
Later to the doctor and and went straight in and I was on the air for 44 hours no way but that’s just like that’s what it’s like when you’re doing that kind of a job at the top level you got to have a certain sense of a little
Bit of knowledge about a lot of things so you can carry a program so you’re constantly interviewing new people they’re scrambling trying to find people for you to interview either remotely or on the set about what’s happening what could be happening so that’s what you know those days like that are you know
Are amazing because the team is so incredible that you uh that you have working with you um and people are looking at you and they they just want to they want to trust you they want to believe what you’re saying and that’s one of the big problems right
Now in journalism is trust as it is with a lot of different institutions and hocky not you know is not ignored on that concern either as we’ve we’ve witnessed a number of times in the in the last little while um but nevertheless it uh you know when you
When you’re into it the big story like that or the small story um they can be just as exciting and invigorating did you ever get like anything majorly wrong cuz you talk about always like no I’ve never done anything wrong no like cuz you talk about the way that
News is now and I feel like it’s very clickbaity and that’s just kind of how it’s all gone like you never really got wrapped up into that was that something that you you know when social media started and it became extremely popular there’s no doubt that different news
Organizations um started to mimic social media TV news that sometimes became Twitter and click baity for one and we’ve all been guilty of that somewhat but you know being led down a a path and leading your viewers down a path where things are wrong um that can be a problem I
Remember I remember the first thing I ever got wrong it was when I was still in Winnipeg I was doing a live show from the Winnipeg airport uh big deal in Canada when royalty comes to the country right or was a even much bigger deal then especially like the queen or
Something but her sister Prince Princess Margaret came to Winnipeg and about 72 or 73 to officially open the Winnipeg Art Gallery um and so at that time that was still a big deal have Margaret com so we did a live show of her arrival at the airport because it it it happened
Right in the middle of the supper hour show news show and so the the anchor throws to me Peter man’s live coverage from the Winnipeg International airport blah blah I come on I said yeah it’s a very exciting moment to Princess Margaret about to kind of step off the
Plane and there she is Princess Margaret uh waving to the crowd well no she’s not waving that’s odd they usually wave and she’s not wearing one of those special Royal hats and what are those wings on the lapel of her the flight attended it was it was the flight
Attended and uh so that when I got back to The Newsroom that night cuz I was you know I was kind of fresh out of Churchill um and there were two pictures on my desk one of Princess Margaret and one of a Air Canada sh stewardess as we called
Them then and and was asked to do a piece for the late news on the difference between these two women so to make light of it good thing there was in Twitter back then to rip on you oh God yeah well I heard Peter Mansbridge started the uh otan rumors to Toronto he
Actually oh did you yeah did you yeah he it has it hasn’t come out yet but he he was tracking the flights the sushi reservation that they made yeah he’s so trusted you know everyone believed I will tell you that I was sitting on my
Edge of my seat all that day you know I sort of bought into it all just like we did with the kawhai thing when he was flying back remember everybody thought oh that means he’s going to sign for Toronto and all he did was come back to
Say he wasn’t going to sign for Toronto but um those were two bad moments but we have Austin Matthew you do that’s right and nobody else hasn’t unfortunately you don’t have any defenseman or a goalie but you well that’s why the pressure is always on Austin you got to score lots of
Goals what about um I always wonder cuz that many interviews 20,000 like any moments of people being standoffish or where you end up running into somebody who’s grumpy and you end up having like kind of awkwardness to it oh yeah you you definitely have you guys are old
Enough to remember the Beach Boys yeah yeah I interviewed Brian Wilson once who was really the genius behind the The Beach Boys but he was a little odd right little prickly well it wasn’t prickly as much as he was odd kind of lived on another planet yeah but uh we’d arranged
To do this interview he’s coming here to to do a concert at Massie Hall in Toronto and uh I’d always been a big fan of the Beach Boys and the Beatles did the same with Ringo Star but with Brian Wilson we sit down for a half hour interview right
He starts giving onew answers oh no right away you’re like buddy I got five minutes if you’re doing this that’s kind of what he what he did and so that took a lot because you know you’re pre for these things but you’re not expecting that the guy’s gonna say yes no maybe
You come on why’ you agree to do this yeah yeah uh well that’s kind of the way we turned it that’s a very good yeah you you’re promo anything here buddy like you show sell tickets it ended up with him uh agreeing to or not agreeing but
Offering me to come in and sing Good Vibrations with him that night of the concert he’d obviously never heard me sing he never would have asked that um but it turned out to be actually a great interview and it’s a great interview to watch because you can see what goes
Through an interviewer’s mind when they’re challenged that way and they know they’ got to fill the time Panic like for me at least when we you know you get the occas guy that’s not maybe not dying to do it or and you’re just you start as the interviewer you’re like
I can’t do this anymore like I’m panicking right now I got no questions though well fck fiddling with the papers it’s funny there there are always questions and you know and yeah and there are especially always questions if you listen the biggest challenge on most interviews big
Interviews um I know you guys were up all night thinking about oh what I haven’t slept away I’ve been reading your Wikipedia since two days ago well that’s full of lies in fact the Wikipedia has me married to someone I’ve never heard of oh that’s why I always
Say verify we can’t trust Wikipedia unless you get the actual like the source F anyway the point I was going to make is you got to listen yeah in an interview and you can tell when you’re watching somebody do an interview big big possibly they’re nervous or what
Have they’re not listening and lots of stuff goes by and all they’re doing is looking down at their paper next question the next question I was gonna ask um the flip side of Brian Wilson was Ringo Star you know I another era that I grew up in so getting a chance to interview
Ringo I can’t remember was five or 10 years ago in Los Angeles was fantastic now how you can imagine how many interviews he’s brought oh yeah right with probably most of the same questions all the time yeah but he made it feel like it was the first time he’d ever
Been interviewed and the first time he’d ever been asked these questions he was funny he was insightful he was everything he was it was great it was a great time and you know on worth the trip down there to talk to him did you get up and sing Good Vibrations with him
With Ringo yeah no no Brian wi Brian no there was no way I would put him through that you need a you would need a bottle of this you got that right I got to ask being since your like your life story right and I I’ve been bouncing around Toronto
A little bit and and work there’s a lot of people from out west come out here obviously you have to come out here to work and the big networks are all out here in Toronto right do you think you’re upbringing and moving and growing
Up in a small town and yeah you ended up in Ottawa and then of course big city living but do you think like that sense of upbringing naturally just made you good with people or like a natural charm of like your e ease about you because I think you have like
You have an ease calmness when you talk to somebody like just very naturally that relaxes them yeah I I think the small town experience would have made that yeah and I’m sure you know you guys in your playing careers you played in a lot of small towns different kind of atmosphere to
That um but you know the opportunity when I when young journalism hopefuls come and ask me for advice and stuff I always tell them get out of Toronto you know you got to start small think big you want to think big that’s good but start small you know I like you
Know we live in Stratford Ontario now coming to Toronto a lot to that’s where beibs is from I think right that’s where you and Joe Thorton and beibs well Joe thoron St Thomas oh is that just what about 15 20 minutes away well it’s an hour good all but there’s a
Lot of guys pass through statford played at the old Alman Arena built in 1924 Wayne got his first goal ever in organized hockey in the Almond Arena there’s a picture of them there I was surprised I I didn’t see it downstairs here um I I talked to way it’s funny
Because he’s not wearing a helmet I don’t think the goalie is wearing a a mass crazy um but I talked to him about it and he you know he remembered the day and I talked to Walter about it and he he remembered it as well um but all
These guys who came to you know Pronger Eddie EK they all P went through Stratford like they played for the Stratford Junior B Team um and Tim Taylor there’s a bunch of them Craig hartsburg they all went through there but you know we go through the NHL teams
You’re going to see that in most squads right guys who played in small towns and the impact the small towns had on them many cases that’s where they met their wives their wives are from places like that um and so your point is a good one because you it’s a whole different upbringing
Coming through a small town than it is in a big city yeah so I tell kids get out of Toronto go to a small place I said you couldn’t have start smaller night at Churchill Manitoba you know you couldn’t hear the radio station a block out of
Town um in fact you couldn’t get out of town because there was no Road you have to go on a train to get out or fly when giton from there is he from Up around there who Glenn gullon he’s assistant that’s what Canadians do where they ask
About guys it’s like hey you’re from Canada I know John you got to know all these guys it’s kind of true we do that I think your advice is similar in a sense to hockey or any sport where all right you got to dominate a level that until
To to move up to the next level like you can’t you can’t get to the top right away so if you dominate a small town you go to a little bigger town you really prove yourself there and then that’s how you get up to to to or I guess but each
Level is a challenge too right yeah oh yeah you’re you’re a big fish in a small pond y you want to start over again as a little fish in the big pond and so each level you’re challenged yourself personally and your family’s challenged about do I want to move on the say we
Used to have in Churchill uh was if you stayed more than three years you’d probably never leave because you come so attached to it yeah and you have your friends there you like it you’ve set up a new lifestyle I left right at the threeyear mark one more week and I would wouldn’t
Have gone but uh anyway that was my my ask was going to be like what was your big break was it did you just have a big year was there a particular interview like how did you end up making that next step The Big Break was the airlin announcement really that’s what started
It and then it was you know learning the skill the trade being putting togethers of it too like I you know once I’d been in there for 6 months I said I said to myself okay I love this and at that point in my life I was just turned 20 I hadn’t loved
Any of the jobs in particular that I was doing I didn’t see myself being in them for a long time um they were more in it to keep the money going and and to have fun but when I realized this was something I loved I put together a plan
For myself about where I wanted to be within two years 5 years 10 years and the end goal was where I ended up as the chief correspondent of the CBC now I never would have told anybody that at the time and they they laugh at you that absolutely like this loser rookies doing
Vision boorn that’s right before they were even Vision [ __ ] is a vision board get him out of here the C I tell people I tell kids I said you’re not going to make every one of your markers but keep it in your mind some you’ll get there
Before you thought you would others it’s going to take you longer um but you’ll still get there as long as you believe in yourself and you keep working on it you mentioned leaving Toronto but is it true you you almost left Canada for the United States is that true I was going
To ask if that ever came about well like a lot of Canadian journalists I mean we may we train and create the best journalists and you know some of the best journalists in the world um you know I was lucky it was around 8788 um I’d had a number of offers from
NBC and CBS for correspondence jobs uh overseas Johannesburg Paris London um but I always said no because the CBC kept you know for a guy that they hired out of nowhere they kept making things interesting for me and then in 87 CBS offered me their Morning
Show oh as as host that had to be tough to turn down that was tough at that point I was the weekend anchor here and uh so I I took it I accepted it but the CBC immediately came back with Nolton Nash who was the anchor at that time of
The national said we we don’t want you to go he says I’m I was planning on retiring the next year or so anyway why don’t I retire now you can have the job uh and I thought you know what I you know I’ve worked towards this all my
Life these guys took a chance on me and and they really took a chance on me so I uh so I did it and people said it are you out of your mind yeah yeah well you’re a good loyal guy though like loyal they trained you you got your reps
You came all the way up they did they match the pay did you take a HomeTown discount like Matthews and theander I took a HomeTown discount it makes theirs look like peanuts no they they it was about uh I don’t know CBC gave me about 20% of what the Americans had off holy
[ __ ] it was the best job in Canada and you know the CBS Morning thing they’ve been through a dozen host since then um you were the one ever worked kronite was the host of The Morning Show and it was a disaster yeah then he eventually ended
Up doing the you know the thankfully you did was it because they reciprocated your energy and gave you cart blanch where if you wanted to go tackle a story did you have to go through anyone or they just gave you the green light on everything CBC yeah at that at that time
Is that one of the Reas no but I you know I had a lot of influence yeah you know too much he’s like grety when gret walks into places that’s when when Mansbridge walks in everyone’s like oh [ __ ] there he is there he is there get
The report out get the report out pitch it to him pitch it to him like you you had to cover a bunch of Wars like some some did you ever maybe bite off a little bit more that you can chew where you were like uh maybe I shouldn’t have
Traveled there to cover it maybe I should have just stayed stayed local I always wanted to know what it was like especially Wars and so I you know I did Afghanistan I was in Iraq I I did uh you know lots of Middle East stuff um but nothing like what the correspondents do
The ones in theid I mean i’ go in and out for a week right they’re there for you know six weeks to six months and uh and they’re constantly in danger zones uh you know I was in a few but nothing how do they get you in and out
Of there doing that in Conflict areas like what’s that like for you when you’re doing that like the way they they you know get you to games they show around and it’s all you know business class five star hotels oh yeah all that breakfast all of the first just
Mass I heard about that um I re strongly recommend the uh um no you go in like everybody else goes in but in you know it’s changed a lot over my time when I initially started doing that stuff it was just you and the crew now
It’s you a crew and security I mean there’s some you know some pretty rough places any close calls any like high high danger the closest call I had was during one of the intifadas and it was uh it was near Bethlehem of all places we were in a
Hospital that was run by the Palestinians and um was surrounded by Israeli uh troops and we were inside the hospital and I was with our correspondent at that time Neil mcdonal and uh were trying to interview one of the doctors about the difficulties they they were having and
He said um and there were no lights on in the place uh because the Israelis had cut off the electricity and they asked okay you got to we got to get some light so we got near a window and we’re doing this interview suddenly Neil grabs me by
By the shoulder he pulls me out of the waes for Christ’s sake that’s bullets that’s shooting they’re shooting at you bouncing bouncing off the side of the the wall next to the window I never heard it they said they didn’t like your Beach Boys interview that’s how into the interview
He was he’s got bullets he listening Theory next question I got to listen to this guy I don’t need these papers I’ll tell you I’ll tell you speaking Arabic we’re flying we’re in are we okay on time right oh you keep going too harder no the um I was in Afghanistan and we’re
Flying from kobell to Kandahar which is a flight of about an hour and a half um and you’re on a military plane C130 a Hercules Canadian Forces plane um so we get out we all we’d flown in uh commercial into a cobble and they they
Put us on the on this Hercules and they said okay we got a problem the plane can’t get high enough you got to be above 20,000 ft or whatever the the the figure was to avoid um ground fire at the plane so we can’t there’s pressurization
Problem so we can’t do that so we’ve got to fly low level and I thought doesn’t that that doesn’t sound right it sounds like we’re going to be closer no we get really low so they don’t have time to see suddenly we’re above them and flying by
Them I said oh okay so how low will that be say all about 100 ft oh my God it’s 100 feet they buzzing the towers in a huge military plane a huge military plane so my cameraman and I are we were up front in the cockpit and if you’ve
Been in Hercules cockpits big you know there’s a lot of room you can walk around you can move around which the cameraman needed so we take off from uh from um Cobble which is surrounded by mountains so we had to go up over the mountains and then down and then the
Whole flight is through you know some mountainous regions a lot of hilly regions so you’re constantly you know going like this to you know to miss going into a Hillside and I’d never seen it operate before and I’d taken flying training and I’d been in the military
But the way it works on a flight like that the Pilot’s flying but the Navigator is calling the shots and he’s standing beside the pilot with his hand on his shoulder saying okay right 10° you know left 10° drop your you know speed to what this
That the other and that was constant for 90 minutes Jesus and I don’t know whether they they did it to us because I never saw anything but uh they had to take evasive action at one point they said they were they were being fired at I never saw any evidence of that they
Might have done that just for a show for us oh yeah the whole thing was a show for you but it wor it worked it it scared the hell out of yeah but it it was an experience I’ll certainly never forget you’re a big momento guy you uh
Great Wall of China you have a little piece of of the wall not sure if that’s legal uh the beaches at Normandy you got it’s a big wall it is okay enough bricks to go they would notice what what you say is your is your most unique that you you’ve got along
Travel you know the I have a piece of the Great Wall of China I’ve got a piece of the Berlin Wall it was there the weekend it came down or started to come down um I’ve got soil from vimi Ridge I’ve got stones from Juno Beach
Dday and that’s probably you know the I I’ve got them all involved somehow in our stone fireplace so they’re in there wow um but there’s probably the Juno Beach stuff that has the most impact for me having done that you know unions and uh various anniversaries of of D-Day for
So many times and I walked that beach it took me you know I walked that beach with my son and you realize these guys and we lost like 350 Canadians that that day just in that one day uh landing at the beach but these guys they were from
All over the country saskat and New Brunswick Quebec Ontario they were they were from most of the provinces 18 years old tell them 18 19 20 years old guys who’d known each other all their lives you know they’ grown up together some of them they’d uh enlisted together they
Trained together and suddenly they’re there and they’re being told no matter what happens keep going keep going incredible people are going to get shot guy beside you could get shot you got to keep going it’s the only way we’re going to take the speech and so
Whenever I walked on that beach and I’ve walked on it quite a few times I think of that and what that must have been like you know you’re with your buddy and your buddy gets shot and he’s lying there bleeding and dying and you got to keep going
Yeah those guys and as you say they’re ages you go to any of those military cemeteries you know anywhere in Europe or and elsewhere in Asia as well Canadians in Hong Kong and and you look at the ages and you go my God you know they
The things they never got to do yeah yeah the save the world though you know yeah my my my father-in-law went to Normandy and and he just said it’s I would love to go over there and see that he just said it’s so like like you like
You said it’s solemn and you’re just like taking it all in and appreciating it so it’s amazing what you’ve been able to do when when the Berlin Wall came down and you were there was was that more like celebration was that was were those people it was a a mix okay of both
Things I mean it it it it it had happened suddenly yeah and the world changed the literally changed that weekend you know I we didn’t know to what extent it would change but the very fact the wall was coming down East and West Berlin were going to be reunited
East and West Germany were going to be reunited other countries were going to abandon communism so did they fly you over just quick like you’re here and all of a sudden this is happening you’re on a plane was I was at a constitutional conference in Ottawa oh that sounds
Exciting and I kept saying look at this look at what’s happening we’ve got to get over there so they finally said yeah okay go so and that’s what you do you just fly all night and you get there and and you do it fortunately NBC was there
Uh you know 24 hours before I got there and matched to and was able to set up a whole system that we were able to piggyback on so and and so within an hour of being there I was broadcasting so it all it all worked uh it all worked
Worked quite well but it was this mixture of Celebration and stuff there were people coming through families you know reunited hadn’t seen each other and 30 holy [ __ ] you know it was all it was all quite something something to see were were you um in in Vancouver for the
2010 olyp that must have been an amazing celebration right and you’re you’re kind of spearheading all the coverage and well unfortunately the CBC didn’t have the rights to the Vancouver Olympics oh really CTV had but I was there for the whole two weeks because you know you were concerned that something might
Happen and you you need to get on the air to to deal with it something other than sports but uh but it you know all all went well but it still the city was alive and yeah you know and and it had a a great end result in in in hockey terms
There’s my question you got one for us when the draft happens yeah who would you pick first if you were the captain of the team that gets to pick first of all those players for the All-Star game for the All-Star Game who would so the captains are McDavid McKinnon
Matthews and another Hughes Brothers Hugh Brothers Hughes Brothers I’m on I’m on the McKinnon train right now well he’s already a captain though he’s a captain so I’m probably I’m probably grabbing uh yeah Sid maybe just because he such a legend or or or pon pon if
He’s right he grab my guy I said on Monday night when I was working Rogers because I left sit off because I don’t want to be biased because you know I love Sid uh barzal yeah I think with the format and the way he skates the way he
Controls a puck love watching him play do you agree since you’re Mr Canada too about what Biz says that USA is coming for all our hockey stuff now they’re going to take us over they’re taking over hockey the USA Hockey kids well one world junor look at the pattern they’re
On I know but like you have any push back on that as a Canadian or are you just going to give in go back to Churchill and strap on the skage um noen they they’ve got it you know they’ve got a huge pool and potential and you just have to you know
Look at what’s happened in the last few years in terms of some of the players coming along there’ll still always be that Canadian thing about hockey that will have an influence on on players you think we’re losing that coming after this and beating us are two different
Things yeah I don’t think there’s any doubt they’re coming after us on all levels whether it’s men women I mean the the women contest oh yeah is something else you didn’t tell me though who who would you pick um I would probably pick neander because you know
The rich get richer and I think that he’s probably going to end up winning he the number one overall uh allar game no matter which team you’re captain on well cuz this is how big of a Leaf’s Jo is Matthews is a captain correct I know but they’re four
Captain I don’t know who’s getting the first I think that I if I’m Matthews I’m picking neander you want your your teammate and the camaraderie and just somebody that you’re comfortable with three on three and as far as ra I got coocher off like everyone we all forget him yeah
Yeah he’s been playing his ass off all yeah I I would uh I do what col’s done not because I’m a pal of Sids but because he’s Sid he’s out hell it he and he Sid I mean I think it would be a real whoever’s makes that first pick
Maybe it is Matthews I don’t know but they should they should pick Sid um we glanced over it uh so you were enlisted in the Navy Canadian Navy what like what was that experience life like what life life lesson I was in Pilot training
Okay I was a fly boy I was we had Believe It or Not Canada had an aircraft carrier then the Bonaventure was stationed off the east coast out of Halifax and they flew trackers uh which was a a two engine plane the wings folded up that were uh
Flew off the Bonnie and I had this dream of wanting to do that like Top Gun kind of like that pretty much that kind of well it was a prop plane it was okay I could see you playing volleyball shirt on that’s right yeah but anyway I trained for that I got
Through primary flying school which was in uh um near Barry uh flying a little plane called chipmunk single engine then I went to Portage the Prairie and flew uh uh twin engine planes expediters um didn’t make it through that have you seen that masters of the air show from
HBO started watching I started last night he’s pretty good yeah the the images are fantastic those guys were Legends holy [ __ ] like we were talking about that’s what my dad was not in the American Air Force he was in the British Air Force in the RAF and he flew
Lancasters which was the British equivalent of what really these guys are flying in that series and uh he did 52 missions um which is a lot of missions when you consider that in the first five the odds were one and three that you were going to get killed on your first
Five missions he did 52 he did 52 what made your dad move to Canada or your family we moved from England after the war to Malaya and ended up in another war and my parents we there were two two of us as young kids my sister and I and
He um the my my Mom and Dad decided we we got to give him a chance you know we can’t continually live in a state of War so he moved to Canada where he took a extremely lowlevel job in the public service in Ottawa and kind of worked his
Way up and um and so obviously for my sister and I was you know it was the best thing that could happen how old were you then sorry six when we here with my Cricket bad but like you had been around all that your dad was involved in that the history it
Trickered your brain and that’s why you’re just like this been I mean humbly speaking for you of course this legendary Canadian broadcaster of Canada like I look like at YouTube clips I remember watching you when we won the Memorial Cup guys we got a message from Peter Mansbridge that was
Like a huge deal right that was like that made me like wow we won the Memorial Cup yeah that was like the moment cuz he was like yeah we heard you all the way out here in Toronto at the national like his voice like the way he
Does it we had a video and clip from you how you gave us a little shout out from your from your news desk and I was just like holy [ __ ] it made all the difference in their when yeah yeah exactly what was your first reaction when you saw Peter mans Biz
Y mustu so we were doing a McDonald’s ad and I I had to be a news anchor and I’m like [ __ ] it I’m going all in like for the legend I was trying to pay homage but I don’t know how it was going to be received right like I know it was going
To be a type response or or I was honored just like I was in uh won an Academy Award an Oscar for zootopia yes the I’m in there for 12 seconds my voice oh my god I’ve watched that with the kid yeah that’s you Peter moose Bridge they
Call me holy [ __ ] so that was a that was a highlight of my career not man’s B now you got now you got our’s attention I’m waiting for the award you get a free happy know that’s about it for the McDonald’s ad we did you said Malay is that like was Malaysia
Back then it’s uh Malaysia now Mia then I flipped that flip that and that was one of the reasons he went there was to help them establish basically Independence okay um and we lived there for three years and it’s you know it’s right on the Equator so you know it’s a
Pretty nice place to live we were treated well until the shooting started it was a bit of a mess so I was going to say you you’ve you’ve given so much to Canada was there anything when you retired that you wanted to accomplish for yourself or for your family did you
Go on like a like a big world tour like is there still something that you feel that you need to accomplish in your life that’s it’s a major thing um probably not you know I mean I I’ve uh yeah I was extremely lucky and all
The time I worked uh at the CBC I’m still working I do a daily podcast um which is deals in you know politics and current events I uh give the odd lecture at the University of Toronto I have a media Consulting business um you know I
I I I I do a you know a number of things I write books I’ve got got a current I’ve written four books since I retired and that was only seven years ago so uh I’m still you know enjoying the work side of life but I’m also enjoying the
Not having to work you know every day like at your own pace at my own pace and that’s the trick um we uh we wanted to my wife’s an actor so she’s fairly you well known in the country and it would it’s hard for us to go anywhere
Without people recognizing us you know um and so we uh we’re traveling we did a lot of traveling in different parts of the world we decided we love Scotland so we uh we have a place in Scotland up way up north in the highlands right on the
North Sea that homage to the former Queen that’s where she spent her Summers you’re right yeah she used to drop over for cup of tea wasn’t a stus is it also the lushness of of like Scotland like basically everywhere in Britain that’s what smoke that whole country that’s green I went and played
In Cardiff during the lockout and you know we would drive to to Brad and you know go play in those teams and you’re just on the bus through these Rolling Hills and everything’s so Lush and beautiful and it’s just we’re right by Royal dornick which is one of the
Greatest courses in the world I got to play it once oh you play it incred no it’s a fantastic course um so we’re we’re close there so it’s a lot of gol I’m a terrible golfer but my son is is developing into a really good golfer um
So we uh we love it over there we got some some friends who know nothing wouldn’t know anything about what I uh used to do but I set I have built a we got a a couple of old barns attached them together renovated it and um I
Built a little studio in there so I still do my podcast every day with Scotland or here or Strat Frost would you go to Scotch if you if you drink um I love the odd Scotch especially on the course I have a flask oh yeah and you need it there warm
Up something something’s different over there like I’m not a big whiskey drinker but over over there it just tastes a little better cold windy day get get the flask on the course exactly I got I got a question um cuz you mentioned in terms we’re not political people or a
Political podcast but you mentioned the how the news has changed and the trust issues and in a sense like you almost got a little lucky when you retired like 16 trumpet comes into office and everything’s just gone completely Haywire like you got to almost be like
I’m kind of glad I’m completely out I’m just out of like out you have your podcast but I’m not in the of where people just hate reporters and hate correspondents and and the the thing for me is is it odd to you to see how every station has like a political leaning and
Was it always like that or is it just gone so crazy itra newspapers always had yes yes you know you know an opinion section and an editorial U team that would make a decision about how they wanted they’d lean one way or the other exactly but the reporters the news never
Did were just reporters you know sometimes their headlines would be Twisted by the the editorial page people um but there’s there seems to have been a change in the way that’s moved and also on television there’s a lot more opinion in television pieces than there
Used to be which is I have a problem with yeah it’s just the news right and in terms of the specialty networks I mean you you see what’s happened in the States you got Fox doing its its right-wing uh thing and then you’ve got MSNBC that has basically decided our
Path is going to be the opposite the fox and all their commentators at night um take a more left-wing approach their journalists are still all pretty good including some of the ones at Fox uh some are friends of mine in all three networks but uh but the pushing of
Opinion has really colored things a lot and that has um that has cost media generally on the on the trust it’s a little poisonous now where it’s like you just well I can’t get just tell us the damn news we don’t need really your opinion on it yeah or you’re arguing on
It or you’re inflating of things because you have to say something crazy yeah it’s right so you don’t do that at all if you if you decide to talk Politics on your podcast like you you know you’ve been around a while you’ve seen things change like do you ever give your
Opinion on on what you think might need to change or are you happy with the state of where with maybe I try to keep my opinion out of it in terms of issues that directly impact us our country but um I have not been hesitant
In saying what I think of uh Trump and some of um some of his actions let’s put it that way um and I think uh you know it’s going to be a really interesting year as a result of that because there’s going to be an impact in terms of what happens with him
For what happens here as well so I think uh you know the luxury of the podcast I mean I own it I do it I can do whatever I want on it right I’m not the CBC voice anymore you’re not answering to anyone no um so I you know I make a decision
About you know the things I I want to say but on in terms of directly covering the Canadian news I try to stay in a in as much of a center lane as I can yeah yeah what said mention that like a lot of disdain like the last you know 68
Years you think that’s because there’s so much like intentional misinformation and like straight up propaganda available now like you know there’s channels on Gable in the states that I mean they’re not they’re just blatant propaganda we didn’t have that like 8 10 years ago and you know that’s really
Messing the with the waters like w just said yeah it’s you know it’s a result of social media it’s a result of the expanded University of news channels and needing ratings too right needing ratings I mean listen Fox is a hell of a business they make a ton of money mind
You they’ve had to give some of it back because the fact they’ve been lying but um but I I mean I the two things to keep in mind are there’s a difference between disinformation and misinformation misinformation is simply you’re wrong you know you got it wrong it was a mistake legitimate mistake your
Research was bad that this that it wasn’t deliberate disinformation that’s deliberate and when they do it they’re doing it for a reason trying to influence whether you how you vote what you buy where you go all of that stuff um and people need to call that out misinformation happens people make
Mistakes and a a good news organization will concede that and say we were wrong about this and we want to correct the record you won’t hear them say that about disinformation because they’re doing it for a reason just do a hashtag rumor boy we make up anything we don’t apologize after
Notice I got a headline for you um this might be misinformation Peter Mansbridge known hoarder collects rocks from all over the world Hoards them in his house is that Miss or dis is that Miss or dis wanted by the Chinese government for stealing the breaking news that’s right I’m going
To break it as Peter mans all matter you’re you’re a truth teller Colby there’s nothing inaccurate about what you said nothing thank you I I my my last one for you is um the clip that comes to my mind is is that lunatic Bill O’Reilly screaming [ __ ] it we’ll do
It live like did you ever have like maybe a little meltdown on a producer where you felt bad like no never no you’re always no oh you did you did you did I was going to say oh listen I would get I I would get upset too but I the one
Thing that you guys don’t have to worry about is I always was very careful about where my microphone was and whether it was on hot mic hot mic that’ll take that’ll take anyone down I always wore a headpiece and I always made sure before
I put it on that it was um that if if I was talking I would hear it whether I was on air or off air oh okay and you know you can tell the difference and you know you hear your voice differently when you can actually hear it through a
Microphone the other thing I did was I I never went you know I never went into the studio until the very last moment yeah I don’t want to be there early either not that I’m not for two reasons I don’t want to sit there with all the lights on everything ready everybody
Talking about getting up and being ready for it I also don’t want to be there because the I got a microphone on right so um so I would always come in and it would drive the floor director and the camera operators crazy I’d come in you know minute 30 seconds before the
Opening theme I just come in put the stuff on and bingo we were there uh and to me that was that was the safest and also the best for me because you know I I would get nervous you asked about nerves I would get nervous for every
Show I ever did same oh yeah sh before the puck drop you’re live TV heavy topics like know your [ __ ] like you got to be like yeah all of that and understanding that you know in my case what you do is important to people they wouldn’t be watching so you know I was
Always a little bit nervous but once you through that first 10 seconds Bingo you’re in game on hockey game it’s like taking your first hit getting hit early taking your first shift the only problem I was playing in the NHL that would take about 34s of a period so [ __ ] I sit
There with nerves the whole time by the time I got out there so you get the luxury to just stab it around after 10 seconds Wayne gry so you would was it like a fight ORF flight thing before every single thing that you did whether it was an interview
Whether it was a yeah I mean there was a level of yeah even nervousness you know it wasn’t like I was falling over but I remember the first uh the first show I ever did uh of a live special nature um big one a big political one was the 72
Election in Manitoba and I was sitting there with the main anchor a guy name by the name of Bill guest and we’ done a a few rehearsals I was kind of the color guy talking about the what the political impact of certain decisions the public
Might make was so we go on it was like 8:00 we sign on there know so it’s like a minute before sign on everybody’s tense and I look over at Bill who was a fantastic broadcaster and a veteran I look at him and underneath the desk his
Hand is is like this and I’m looking at him going this is my first show and he’s Shing and and I said bill you you’re nervous and he just looked at me and he said listen kid the day you’re not nervous is the day you shouldn’t be
Doing it anymore there you go you got to realize the stakes drives the energy and it does what a rush there’s been a few times where I haven’t been and like you said you’re just like oh [ __ ] something’s off like I’m not I don’t have my juice when you’re done like an
Evening news report or something like even when you’re doing say your 911 broadcast where you’re on for 40 hours straight or whatever it was like was it even hard to sleep after that cuz I get home after hockey games at night I you know work a double header it’s like 1:00
In the morning Vancouver just spanked someone and I get home but I’m like on live TV just did the postgame show and you’re like you’re still buzzing you’re processing everything still yeah and you’re like what did I say did I say something show big shows for sure 911 a
Big election night anything where you were on for any length of time you couldn’t sort of leave and go home and yeah go to bed um it take a lot of kind of winding down um I was trying to think of one after the Quebec referendum in 1995 which if
You remember it was very close I remember right when they tried was it 51% separating yeah it was basically about 514 was the voters that close yeah it was like 50 and a half to 49 and a half was very close so it was a hell of a night but when it was
Over and we finally signed off couldn’t go to sleep for sure so a couple of us went for a walk around downtown Montreal which is as you guys know is always alive some fashion and I’m thinking okay here’s a night where this place has just had the biggest
Question ever put before it and the closest result in other places that I’ve been to in the world on nights that even remotely resembl that there’d be like fires in the street yeah you know fighting there’ be all kinds of stuff going on and here we are in Canada and
People are sitting in bars people who were on both sides of these is that issue um one side was disappointed the other side was not happy they were like exhausted in relief but I was thinking that’s such a Canadian Canadian yeah we’re very fortunate yeah hey good election there
Bud yeah that was that was one of the final questions I was going to ask you just like how grateful like how grateful are you that you were raised in in Canada like it’s such an amazing country it is you know and and for it’s not like
We don’t have issues we have issues and and they need to be addressed and we we’ all kind of been slow to realizing that on some of the the big social issues that we face but we’re still this amazing country it’s big it’s diverse in every fashion geographically resource
Culture everything um and all you have to do as some of you have done and I’ve certainly done is travel the world and see how other places live so it’s not ignoring the issues we’ve still got to address but it’s a pretty good place yeah to live in and
People would trade anything to be there when they hear you’re from Canada man they’re jealous you know uh I I got one last one uh what are your thoughts on immigration Peter so much it’s amazing yeah this has been oh I want to know who are you unbiased Peter Mansbridge
Um the national 50 years unbiased pick for the Stanley Cup and I know you’re leaf blower and and is it coming back to Canada I think we’re um ask me that in two weeks okay we’ll get you back on a little closer to the deadline we’ll get a reporter on but I
You know I I once again I I agree with Biz here that I think uh that’s where you went samsonoff has turned a corner let’s go if if if it’s real and you know three games is just three games but he was incredible in those for Stanley Cup sh
I’m saying I’d like to I I can see that I can see that Vancouver Toronto thing I would like to think that in my lifetime you get to see it I get to see something like that but that I get to see a leaf Victory uh or at least after 21 years a
Canadian victory in the dup and I think I think this is going to be the year where that’s going to happen there’s just too many good hockey teams unless they start the crater after the All-Star break you know Vancouver Winnipeg Eon can’t win forever want to
Bet but uh Shane do and I play with him a guy I respect he’s like a mentor to me he compared the the samsonoff thing to to is it Trey Turner who played for the Phil is it I think I think he completely folded in the playoffs no opposite so he
Had a really really rough regular season oh okay and he was really struggling and I think he went like you know 0 for three 0 for four I went on like a 125 game like awful drought and but the Philly fans were still giving him standing OES and cheering for him where
I feel like samsonov he went got sent to the miners cleared waivers everything but yet Leaf fans have still embraced him and really gave him that standing Al two on none right that really kind of turned turned a corner but even before that I feel like they were being
Supportive where sometime in this market if you’re not playing well they’re going to give you the boo Birds where I feel like that support even before he had that two on0 and that big one- nothing win against Winnipeg I feel like they the the fan base elevated him and he’s
He’s reciprocating that energy that they provide him and that’s why I that’s why I believe and then Trey Turner of course finally had turned the corner and he went on this crazy run they made playoffs and I mean what they get beat in the the the semis yes but maybe it’s
A different but they need they need more than Sammy I I know I understand doy and um and and berzi have got a they’ve got to turn the corner Big Time who would you want to get okay Stanley Cup you still I’ll ask you in two weeks that’s fair who would you get
As a trade deadline of poachers uh coming up here that’s the big topics what teams are looking for what they need what do you need with the Leafs D anyone in particular a real takes a real genius to figure out they need some D chick would be great but they how are
They gonna make that happen the big guy is tanov yeah that’s everyone says I’m not there tanov I was there on zadorov oh same that’s what Biz was Biz was bum they didn’t get him we needed that but uh big Ogre but but who you may there must be
Others out there because they need help on D do you pick up the phone and call Shanny are you that big not Shanny but uh his boss tree oh the oh even I I I dad stays at the same Jim Jim stays at the same you back channed a Jim to tree
Yeah sick move I remember telling I remember telling Jim on the day one of the season I said they win tonight Tre is going to be a hero we’re going to do a special lose it’s the beginning of the a special special Dragon Day everyone
Goes on a pitch and and sees what the team needs and whoever wins they get it picked and what about what about Keef I like Keef I don’t I don’t think I I don’t think you have any reason to get rid of Sheldon ke I think you give it
Till the end of the season and if and if you don’t like what you’ve seen throughout the rest of the season and playoffs if I mean they’re in a wild card right now so they might not even make it but I think after that you make
A decision I think it would be too hostile if you try to change I think you got you know he’s not the one who signed some of the right he’s the coach he’s got to deal with what they gave him and he’s got percentagewise probably the best
Record any Toronto coach has ever had right he’s I think four or five in in wins overall in the history of the Leafs um so I I think that would be the wrong place to start yeah yeah I agree told you Sam son off was lowkey great
Sign a couple years ago didn’t he bu yeah it just took took a while to come now two weeks ago I would have you said ship out get out this always hard here I can’t even take my goddamn garbage can to the curtain we got guys like Peter
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Zip recruiter the smartest way to hire huge thanks to Peter for jumping on his Biz this guy is like just you know absolute Legend up there hey I wanted to pay homage to him when we did this uh this silly YouTube vi video me and posha chopped up and then that’s ended up
Being the BET as well when uh we went to the Eastern or Western Conference Finals so so that’s how it all sparked then I went on his podcast at some point and then of course we wanted to return the favor and get that Legend on ours and uh
Some great stories uh uh you know an incredible run in TV and uh just a machine so thank you to him for coming on and uh and it was a good time yeah good stuff oh guys I I so you guys were just before we just went to break you
Guys were talking about uh um Austin mat’s potentially breaking gret’s goal record you said I wonder what John bigr thinks of this so I texted BCI and I said the boys are on the Pod right now and they were wondering if you think Austin Matthews can break Gretzky’s goal
Record just like he predicts predicted Edkins and he said you mean oetkin and then he went on to say I don’t think he’ll break it he has a history of injury oetkin never did poppy will need 900 I don’t know I huh huh interesting me because interesting always slowed
Down quite a bit this year but we’ll keep tabs on it as always so one so one of the discussions we had about amount of punish you take as a center Iceman and how much more skating but then to the contrary like look at how hard that
Oie was playing even as a Winger like the amount of damage he probably even inflicted to himself from running around the way he did for so many years so I just think with the way that they’re training now and the way that they got their diets dialed in that they actually
If you’re really taking care of yourself and you’re as dedicated as Matthews is your your longevity will be greater that’s my that’s my prediction obviously tough to argue with what oie’s done for from his longevity perspective but I don’t know I don’t know uh it’s it’ll
Come down to the wire this next one Biz uh very unique story so the Nashville Predators they had asked permission to uh go to Vegas early they wanted to go see You2 at the sphere you know the sphere where he’s talking about I mean I think it’s sort of a once in a-lifetime
Opportunity You2 may never go back there it’s a unique setting but anyways they played like [ __ ] uh nine to2 lost all of a sudden the trip got canceled they were supposed to take all the staff the players would like treating a whole bunch of people to this thing and I
Thought originally it was Andrew brunette but it seems like Barry trotz he was pissed off about it he says we don’t have bad culture our standards had slip below expectations when you have young players you have to send them a message that you can’t be rewarded if your standards in your preparation slips
Below your principles so they’re basically punished because they had a bad couple games and they can’t see you two at the sphere I know it’s only a [ __ ] coner but is this something that could like I don’t know backfire in some way or guys just say [ __ ] it it’s a bump
Of the road Move Along wait you want this one first uh no I feel like you got an opinion on this so go right ahead I’m I’m a little bit softer and I would have thought that you know what we just got pumped we’re not playing great you need
A little outing to to put a little bit of fun back in your life right nobody wants to get pumped I feel like yes doing what he did might have guys react the other way but then people also might say that my opinion’s soft on that that’s something that like back in the
Day when I was playing Junior I don’t know if Dave tippet would have exactly done did something like that but uh yeah I would I wouldn’t have done it if I was a coach I probably would have used the bullet yeah they were looking to cancel
It but I said no we need a team outing so let’s go have some fun but bring your [ __ ] effort back next practice and next game and let’s [ __ ] get going here yeah it’s a tough one man they they were at home and they got completely embarrassed so looking at the old school
Way like as a coach you’re like they don’t deserve to go do this what sucks is that they were bringing the training staff and the equipment manager so it’s a real kick in the dick for everyone but for me it’s like yeah dude if you’re going to be on home ice and get
Completely waxed like that with that effort by the way the coolest part of that night was the fact duchaine scored two goals and then was lead singing playing guitar at tootsies like that might be one of the most legendary NHL nights I’ve ever heard of shout out Dallas too maybe the least discussed
Best team we’ve ever had they like it like that yeah yeah I know it’s almost good like nobody talks about but every I get random texts from people like hey you you like a you like a sleepy future on a cou and I’m like just bet Dallas
Just bet Dallas they’re going to be in it they they’ll be in the west of Conference Final but I I I I see where brunette’s coming from it would have suck to be on that team or or a part of the staff of that team but man like
You’re you’re you’re you got completely trucked in your own building and and and in his mind he’s like all right well they’re probably already thinking about going Vegas and I was nice enough to say yeah we can go early you can do this it it’s definitely a tough decision
Probably now in the NHL you don’t see this as often but I me I mean I guess I look back to when I played although we always tell the story that edzo said if we won a game we could have two days off and then we lost 61 and he goes I take
The two days off so there’s a difference mentality to different coaches but that’s just him saying this is embarrassing like you can’t play like that and expect to be rewarded after you guys asked me we could go out there early um a hard decision to to make for
A coach though I’m sure he kind of thought about it and then in the end he was that mad and pissed off and just said nope no fun for you guys in Vegas you got under 30 games left in your season your two points outside of a
Playoff spot I just think it’s time to remind them hey we didn’t need the [ __ ] do this this is not how you treat your fans at home but I still go so that’s how I feel about at ra the old school sternness if you’re going to let
Them do it after that trouncing like you know that in Vegas they’re going to have a big effort right you maybe as a coach you’d think all right these guys are going to be going balls to the wall after I give them this party after that Beatdown but trots talked about it right
Like you got to set the tone and and and that’s not at all what he wants to see a team play like at home and and so they made the decision I wonder if trz was involved oh yeah no he was I think he was the the architect of the whole thing
I mean obviously Brett answers to him and he said it was about the Predators and the fans not about the players on the team you know that they’re going through somewhat of a well rebuild on the Fly and he says you know we will not tolerate those efforts in front of our
Fans paying money to see us play I don’t know B I’m I’m obviously old school in a lot of ways but it’s [ __ ] you two with the sphere man come on like they might never go back there it’s not like they were play in a football stadium or
Or an arena man I I mean it’s like [ __ ] man I I would be pissed off I was they’re not getting paid to go they’re not getting paid to go the you at the sphere they’re getting paid to Win Hockey games they don’t game that night
They’re going on a [ __ ] off night man I mean they still have social lives they still go to dinner and [ __ ] around and do all the other [ __ ] I mean I don’t know I I’d be [ __ ] I’m with you I would I would have gave him each a
Little packet of shrooms we would have been having a ball laughing our balls off and then the next day steam room right off to practice let’s [ __ ] go boys battle drills yeah I mean announced was that announced before they went and beat the blues uh they beat the blues 52
And now did you see did you see Bennington butting Evangelista in the face did you see that biz yeah he’s in uh he’s in full Bennington mode right now and that’s why St Louis scares me if they sneak in they kind of got their they they got their Swagger back and so
Does Bennington the Snowman um I know a guy who got 100 to one ticket on them wh believe L [ __ ] on everyone I do got about eight and nine best just scored so what’s it 87 now what a [ __ ] chew out that is but yeah anyways man I felt bad for the
Boys they didn’t get to see you too so uh you know who we might see soon Bill kessle uh he’s doing a conditioning stint up in Abbotts vid British Columbia hoping to sign with the conu we did talk to uh Rick toet on the Chicklets cast
The other night want to throw a clip of that on G please uh We’ve messaged a little bit but I think it’s more uh for him to see where he’s at we got the you know the skills coaches going to work with him you he’s been off for 10 months
But the thing with Phil he’s a freak right he’s he’s a he’s a he can do a lot of things he’s a sports freak right um so I don’t know I don’t know where he’s in shape I know the one thing he can pass the puck um and we’ll see where it
Goes the first phase here is the next four or five days he he’s at physically before we even entertain anything from there I mean Biz what do you what what would you put the odds at that that he’s a canak could say two three weeks 70% 80% does his conditioning I guess a
Little bit off but you think he’s almost a definite kuu or what yeah I I think uh I think uh watching him skate I think they had like a double practice or whatever in the AHL and he looked like he was struggling a little bit it’s not
Easy getting back up to Pace but uh it’s more for that guy just in the locker room he’s just U he just adds that levity especially for a team with with a core who doesn’t have that much playoff experience I think the only year they
They made a run was when they went to the second round right is that is that a when they went to I think they played against St Louis in the bubble was the farthest that they’ve been with this core group so aside from that man I just think that
Uh it’s important to have a guy around who can take take the edge off and he’s an important piece that’s been around who can do that and if you throw him in the mix he’s a guy who might pull two goals out of his ass who knows but last
Year he proved that he could be that guy who’s in the locker room who’s not contributing as much yet adding a lot as you saw in our interview with marcheso like he said that him and marcho were going back and forth and the whole locker room was loving it it it almost
It almost took your focus away from how big the challenge was to win the Stanley Cup and I think that that’s drastically important wh what do you what do you feel about it I just think it’s no risk right it’s just like all right yeah bring him in if
It works out great if it doesn’t you already had a team that’s played so good all year and and I think there was no chance he was going anywhere without a prior history so him would talk and I mean before game seven he’s calling him out for like a pull-up competition like
It’s obviously a guy who’s been in all the big moments his career’s been awesome so bring them in and and if it works out awesome and if it doesn’t no worries so it makes sense to me um I I figured he would he would be somewhere
At one point I mean I know he wasn’t a part of the a big part of the playoffs for Vegas but he wasn’t bad in the regular season what he have 15 goals last year so if he can get into shape and I think it’ll all come down to like
How he looks down in abbottsford when he’s skating if they can get I mean all the clips were funny it was like this guy’s dying right out no [ __ ] he probably he hasn’t been in a legit Pro practice in 8 n months whatever it’s been so he’s going to be dying a little
Bit and and winded but if he figures it out and goes up to van and is comfortable there and gets put in the lineup and and signs with that team I love the move cuz there’s there’s zero risk to it whatsoever just get a get a
Cup champion in a locker room for a team that’s trying to go on a run yeah he hasn’t played since uh April 23rd of last year so I hope he gets back in League B I hope more than anything else when he’s done playing he comes on this
[ __ ] show because I don’t I feel like he’d be one of the [ __ ] funniest guys ever we we’d ever have on the show but either way we’re rooting for K to get back in the NHL a few Milestones this week as well congrats to my neighbor Brad masan played his 1,000th NHL game
Versus Tampa last week uh he’s in his 15th season already holy [ __ ] 912 points in a,2 games and also uh vas deman Alex petangel also played his 1000th game versus LA but did you see what they did something a little different instead of the silver stick they gave him a Golden
Stick and they actually presented it to him before he actually played in the 1000th game that was a little something different what do you mean when when did they give it to him before he played in the 1,000 wait to to the next game before the next game to do or a few
Games in some cases to your back home so they presented it to him on 999 before but I mean [ __ ] man like you if you get through warmup like you’re yeah you’re there oh yeah no yeah bitching about it just interesting they he didn’t go to
The silver stick they gave him the gold stick because obviously Vagas gold Knights I thought I thought that was an interesting little touch something a little bit different but I bet you he gets the silver tooo but they just wanted to give him the gold one so he’s
Going to get two sticks I can’t believe believe St Louis didn’t resign him yeah that was a fumble like the fact that he’s you know he’s gone on to win another Stanley Cup as as one of the few true number one defenseman in the league like that guy can do it all incredible
Career Hall of Famer for sure and and no doubt like him and Marshon like the way they’ve done it for this long and they keep producing So Pro isn’t slowing down either man that guy I remember in Camp with him Biz I didn’t know how good he
Was and then you just see him like he’s another human breakout like Adam Fox right he gets it he’s either moving his feet and making it on his own skating or he’s snapping it up tape to tape just been an incredible player like drafted High everyone knew what he could do and
He’s lived up to everything I skated with him when they were in uh St kits when he was playing for the nagger Ice Dogs and when he was like 16 17 years old already tell oh yeah he was like big could skate well the one thing at St
Louis camp that got even better though was like the way he defends and how well of a skater he is you never had any time with the puck he would have been closed in on you stick on Puck and then body like shortly thereafter where we were
Doing those one on will one on one drills down the ice as a Ford I basically just [ __ ] throw it in the bench like [ __ ] next next you know what you said when you would look down the line it was Crosby and you would you
Know oh okay well oh my skate lace yes oh [ __ ] orp go ahead oh yeah but uh yeah same thing he he’s a freak and and still doing it both guys Hall of Famers you still better not pay for parking ticket for Brad marshan under Ra’s watch though
Yeah dude it’s funny I saw his vehicle out there a couple months back and there was a ticket on it I was gonna take a picture of but I don’t want to put his [ __ ] vehicle out there but I still think get he must have a guy who he just
Hands these tickets to and takes care of them yeah or he just he’s one of those guys that puts the old one on just to maybe think the guy’s not going to give him a new one it’s a good trick do that when when I owned a vehicle I guys did
You see Brant cl’s first adhl goal Saturday unbelievable dude comes out of the Penalty Box OT Breakaway boom I know it was against by Bruins but it was an unbelievable goal one of the I they’ve been a ton of first goals we’ve seen this year but that’s one of the best
I’ve ever seen wh coming out he’s coming up at the perfect time too they needed something kind of like they’re getting m m McMahon and Toronto he’s that guy for for LA right now he’s he’s silky smooth man like for that to be your first goal
That’s one of the best ones I’ve seen um yeah it’s crazy I mean like and also you kind of forget like Brock Faber was an LA Pikman and then they dealt him in that I think it was the fiala F so they’re they’re kind of going to need
Clark to pop off because you look at Faber right now he’s like makoy dude Faber Rookie of the Year give it to him so and it’s just they’re going to need like this young defenseman to come in and I think he’s at the point like similar to ur and Columbus like he the
AHL like buddy like you can’t do anymore right like you have to to get him up you got to get him ice time so la seems to be turning a corner man they had that they had the they had the win against the Bruins in overtime then they get
Those kempe goals to beat Pittsburgh on yoger night and something’s going there now oh also that kid for the Bruins Justin how do you say brazo they just signed him a couple days ago his first game with the Bruins today got a goal his very first game I saw Elliot tweet
About him I guess he had 61 goals one year in the O was never drafted or anything so I mean I know you’ve seen a lot of guys maybe they’re over Majors or whatever but light up like the major Junior Rank and have these huge Seasons
Like one of their last few in junior but I mean you had 61 goals dude you know what you’re doing around the net it was a great pass he buried but still nice little signing and what a cool story to just battle like all the way and never
Be drafted and light up Junior and get your first NHL goal first game that’s awesome yeah good [ __ ] uh Conor McDavid we haven’t mentioned him for a while had a career high six assists versus Detroit last week uh his second career six-point game uh he’s the fifth Oiler to have at
Least two six-point games obviously Wayne leads the pack with 22 Yari Curry had four uh coffee and Anderson each had a pair uh his third assist that night was the 600 of his career in his 616 game the fourth fastest ever uh Wayne did it in 416 games Mario 514 uh and Bob
Yord 608 so again seems like every other week we’re talking about what him or or Nate dog was just getting mentioned with these Legends they just keep climbing these [ __ ] the he now success now leading the league and assist too so we talk about the three guys who are
Probably up for the MVP right now like can’t count this guy out I know it’s crazy to think that I have him outside the top three and some people disagree with me but by the end of the season he’s probably going to be in the top
Three [ __ ] he might even still win the thing he is catching massive fire right now my thing with the oiler my thing with the Oilers is like they bring in Perry he’s playing on the first line now I think he’s got two goals now and and
And then buard like I I know I’ve talked about him a lot this guy is keeps getting better and better and they have like a true power play quarterback with one of the hardest shots in the league he had two goals uh against Dallas including the OT winner and like he’s
Just he’s an awesome player so Edmonton everything continues to go well they had a couple little hiccups here but man they’re they’re in Arizona right it was 2-1 last time I checked but I don’t know beating Dallas in Dallas the I don’t I would love to know the last like 15
Years granted the Oilers have been bad for a lot of those years but Dallas is a house of hores for them so to get that win that was huge and yeah they’re going man they they they’re going to they’re probably going to trade their first round pick maybe they throw in broberg
And get an enormous return I don’t know but you know this is a goal for it year and Ken Holland’s moving that first round pick no doubt that was a horse I like that H the Nate Dog H Nate he had a goal and an assist on Sunday to extend
His season open and home point streak to 26 games he passed Bob Y for the second longest after after guess who Wayne Gretzky uh he had 40 with the 89 Kings in 26 home games Nate’s got 22 goals 33 assist 55 points uh in the season 56
Games he’s got 91 points uh the fastest Avalanche or noque to hit 90 points since Peter stasy way back in 1988 he also did it in 56 games so these guys are just unre man I like to give them props when they’re doing [ __ ] like this
Yeah and I want to shout out my buddy Chris Wagner um he’s been a really good NHL player for a long time and this year he signed a way with Colorado and like seven minutes later he tore his Achilles it was just such a kick in the dick for
Him so he’s able to battle back and I mean oh no golf all summer that absolutely blows the guy’s a golf junkie but he he got healthy he’s been playing in the miners got called up played his first game when they beat uh Arizona yesterday I believe Sunday so I’m really
Happy for him who knows he gets up there I saw he had three hits and played I don’t know seven eight minutes and and all of a sudden maybe he can kind of get a rle there on the on on the on the fourth line and and and figure out a way
To be a part of that lineup moving forward so I know NuSkin out um they might have a couple other injuries but I was happy for him did you talk to him at all about like the the the process and like maybe where the Pain’s at now he
Feel he feels great now he feels awesome he said it was a struggle man that rehab’s hard and it’s like long and it’s just tedious but he feels really good so it’s it’s just good to hear because that injury man it’s oh it’s a one yeah
Hopefully W gets back out there man he’s he’s a great guy great kid so uh we want to send our best wishes to LY McDonald it’s great to hear he’s doing well uh he suffered a cardiac event when he in Calgary’s airport returning from the All-Star Weekend in Toronto actually had
To spend two weeks in the hospital but uh two nurses happened to be in the airport they went over just dropped everything sprang into action he said I owe them my life like just the the randomness of two strangers you know saving his life and uh he said he has
Quote new and improved pipes some fancy hardware and a figuratively full hot he took a picture in front of the hospital with like a you know stuffed animal hot or whatever so ly McDonald I know you guys are a little younger than me but absolute legend of the game I love
Watching him when that cup at 89 so ly glad to see you doing well pal and uh get well soon so boys wait wait wa wait real quick real quick guys a very very very special happy birthday to our guy Ryan Whitney thank you boys very much
Thank you how old 41 today [ __ ] hey Round of Applause you enjoy the day wait you deserve it you sna so many passes tape to tape today’s your day buddy that a boy wit wi actually I got one one question for you before you go since it’s your birthday and I know you’ll
Love this one so they did the Draft Kings challenge with the 41 free throws with Dave big cat the whole Wack Pack at the Chicago office now there’s Rumblings that we will be doing a hockey related DraftKings type hey crazy thing to accomplish what is it that people are
Talking about that we should do related to hockey where it’s an insane thing that would be very difficult to accomplish I I don’t know we talked about either like hitting posts in a row but I think it would be better if we get a shooter tutor and everyone if you
Don’t know shooter tutor you put it on the net and you can score top left top right bottom right bottom left five hole and something where we have to hit like 30 in a row and like ra and big cat and por noi have to hit it like cuz here’s
The thing about these streams is is you don’t want to be able to do it quick now if we’re an hour 40 and we’re ready to kill each other I could really regret that but it’s almost like if you could guarantee you could get something in the
15 to 20 hour range and I know this sounds crazy and Merl’s on Game notes he’s saying I’m going to quit take a hike M I ain’t quitting I’ll be the I’ll be a Vibes guy people thought minahan would be miserable he was the ultimate Vibe guy during the
Free throw competition he was the guy pumping everyone up that’ll be me so I don’t know I think it’s a shooter tutor where like I don’t I so apparently they have numbers guys to like run through and figure out like the odds in doing it
I guess it was 100,000 to one that those guys would hit 41 straight free throws but then they ended up bringing in ringers and former college basketball players to kind of get it done but big cat had to hit 3940 and pornoy had to
Hit the 41st so it would it would end up being something where we’d have to hit a certain amount on a shooter tutor in a row so and the reason you say the shooter tutor is cuz you want it done at the Chicago office because all the
Cameras are set up yeah I thought it would be a good idea is if maybe like Chicago’s out of town for a couple days we could use the United Center and go back to that I think they got stuff going on there like every night well
Maybe what if we start there and then the Bulls have a game and like then we have to go live in one of the boxes and wait for them to take out out all the bu boards and just have the ice again to where maybe we go back to that half ice
Shot or the far blue line where how many guys in a row get have to make it in the small little hole when they put the shooter tutor on that would that would be in a row man like I think that would actually be impossible there’s oh 10g we
Would legit be there the rest of our lives because if we had like big cat to do I think to do like four in a row of from Center Ice getting the puck in that little hole the middle would maybe take years no way went back to back dude
That’s that was so unlikely though exactly and then to get another one and then another one and then another one hashtag Whit missed that’s probably the most impressive thing I’ve done on this this show is [ __ ] hitting that shot set a race but I think that I think if
You could do it at the office and you get pucks and you get the shooter tutor and then like it would be a rule where if you’ve played hockey you can’t score lower left or lower right like like me and G would have now we’re getting the
Weeds okay let’s have people who are listening to the end of the show here uh throw in your um like what you think maybe we should do from a hockey related challenge perspective and it’s got to be difficult but yet something that has to eventually happen like 10 in a row
Making it in that little hole that’s that Biz that is that is impossible yeah correct I agree with you it is especially you posts any post crossbar in a row I think I think possible too dude no it isn’t we could do it we could
Do it how far are you talking here from the from the hash marks front hash marks right okay we’re talking 41 free throws in a row took them 18 hours and you’re saying 50 posts in a row are you I agree with what do you mean no question grelli
What are you talking about I think no question we could do it I think it would be easy I think it would be easier than you guys thinking is what I mean to say yeah we’ll make you one of the shooters and you’re the one at 49 was going to [ __ ]
It all up Mr easy if we’re including ra and big cat and Dave correct like what are you talking about exactly yeah I guess I guess if you’re including ra big cat and Dave I wasn’t really thinking of that but well who else would it be I was thinking Biz mer and army
Need to be involved in this Merl and army need to be in this they’re hockey guys I mean yeah let us know let us know what you think so here’s as I mentioned it can’t be easy it’s got to be really hard but the the the aspect of like
Impossible can’t can’t be a can’t be part of it either Biz has to complete a tape to tape pass I have I have to throw a body check I’ll strap the pads back on okay one last time all right Jo that’s what you’re waiting for B all right gang uh
Great show great interview hopefully you all enjoyed it uh that wraps up this week and we’ll see you next chicklet TV new episode of chicklet TV Wednesday toron Game notes and G’s on way to North Dakota for another chicklet you have a good one all
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It would take Grinelli over a week to hit 5 posts
I never heard of this man until this interview. Not to be sappy but good on you guys for sharing this man's story. Seems to me that he's a Canadian national treasure.
Good interview with Peter Mansbridge guys! Interesting questions.
"Well he's usually getting sussied." lol 40:40
All respect to Peter Mansbridge, but his claim of being a centrist is spurious at best. For decades he was complicit in broadcasting disinformation from a gov't controlled 'news' station. He complains about Donald Trump but supports that absolute shitshow lunatic Justin Trudeau.
Fucking painful.
Eveyone on the show goes out of their way to be self deprecating and humble….. but dickhead RA, every week… without fail, has to constantly inject himself into every topic.
And his take on U2… ffs, they are the most overated band of all time. You should be sacked for WANTING to go see them
G is a moron for saying 50 posts is easy for anyone even former players, just from an odds perspective. Just consider the size of the puck and post to a the basketball and net.
My thought on something similar to the 41 shots would be 41 full ice empty betters in a row with certain guys having to close it out. Empty net, shooting behind the opposing goal line, 41 in a row, think thats as close as your gunna get challenge wise
Pasha should have been sussied for the year!
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Live stream for bruin’s games, do it at kirks studio, RA , fietalberg , Portnoy, Whit, Keith yandel. It would be epic
Nothing like a senile Canuck who knows what’s best for America
Loved this!!
Free pasha 😂🥲
Great interview. The Juno Beach story, got me. I got a tear, in my beer
Kessel is sitting at 992 career NHL points.
Get Johnny oduya
Every episode, when I scroll the time bar, the most replayed part of every episode is after the interview with the guest is over. Just an observation
NHL All Star game HAS to be like the Super Bowl week where you have an NFL museum of all the great moments/superbowls/players in the same city. Rent out a convention center and create an experience in the same district as the arena that has the game
Mansbridhe is rocking Air Force ones!!!!
Stoned dude in upper left makes this unwatchable