Been working on this for a while now and I can’t seem to do better than this. The pic is a screenshot of a slowmo video and it’s at the moment of ball impact. I’ve been a habitual “scooper” (hands behind the club head at impact) and it kills distance. Despite a few lessons and some at home drills I just can’t seem to make more progress. Wondering if anyone has some tips or feel tricks to get my hands to where they need to be.
by ApartmentForRentt
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You can’t force shaft lean it’s the by-product of a good swing.
If you just try holding your angles you’ll end up dragging the hands through impact and leaving the face massively open.
no one is going to be able to tell you what you need to change without a video of your swing
For me what worked was more rotation through impact. Imagine the hands start working towards your left hip at impact in a circular path not so much a linear path (towards the target). You’ll also need to rotate your hands more closed, so the logo of your glove faces the target more so.
Remember, if your hands remain forward at impact without rotation, you bring pushes and shanks into play.
Try this post, the videos helped me a lot with this https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/s/E12Acl9LM8
You could get one of those bent shaft training aids, I really struggled with it but I know others have found them great
You are swaying. Fix the sway. Turn instead :).
Hold the lag but you must rotate hips out of the way. Just like a putt, most decelerate rotation on the downswing because they focus on moving the arms and hands through
Lead with the body more. You’re going pulling the club until you throw the clubhead at the target. Not throw the clubhead at the ball.
Don’t try to hit the ball with the clubhead. That’s a leftover mental thought from the very beginnings when missing the ball completely was a possible outcome. Hit the ball at the target. There’s a 180° difference in the two.
Early release is from trying to do something, effort wise, before you are supposed to.
This is the equivalent of throwing a ball from behind your head.
The problem. People think of the ball as the target. And when you do that the target becomes the end of the action. You go from A to B. The top of the swing to the ball. When it’s from B to C. The ball to the target.
Like throwing, and all other sports, you apply effort towards the target. Early release focuses effort straight down. Then you flip (in your pic) at impact to not beat the club straight into the ground. Which is why hitting it fat is super common for this release type.
What’s you’re setup like? Where are your hands and where is the butt of the club pointed?
Shaft lean is a symptom, not a direct cause. Theres a lot in your swing that can go wrong and cause low shaft lean.
Watch these. They will help you out a ton.
https://youtu.be/4fsOMkOecNg?si=bkSb7X2Us1QxyMww
https://youtu.be/xIgaWMcCOYw?si=lpC6liwecjzG3bsF
hit punch shots. finish the swing with your arms about waist high. imagine you have a bench in front of you and you’re hitting the ball under the bench. start with low effort, like 50%. as it becomes more comfortable, increase the length of the through swing. go up to chest high, then shoulder high, then a full follow through. but still trying to hit a lower flight window.
Guessing because I can’t see your shoulders but… looks like you have some shaft lean
You’re missing a very important part of the picture, your head.
If you watch a good ball striker, their head is behind the ball. Its actually very interesting: their head is behind contact as their hands are past, yet their body is still over the ball.
Look at this shit:
https://preview.redd.it/pe0czeb6n9zf1.jpeg?width=704&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=580d0f6d48737c62ae9420e5c0a7dda04397ff35
Isn’t that crazy?!
So imagine this.
If your clubface is square when the shaft is vertical like this position…then you’ll have to always return the shaft to this position by impact.
Shaft lean opens the clubface. So if you keep trying to get more of it and you don’t turn the face closed earlier, you won’t get it.
If the face was closed by the time it gets to your back foot, then you can have some shaft lean..you get shaft lean by rotating the body and shifting some laterally, not by pushing or pulling the hands across.
In fact the hands should line up with your back thigh more than you think, and you have to get the back thigh around more.
Here’s a good explanation with drills. You need to learn to close the face more than you think so you can then “open” the face with body rotation and shaft lean.
https://youtu.be/kze0Ik_xVs4?si=Ne2ZxO_7osErIG8Y
Specifically for you like most it looks like you don’t rotate your arms enough..that closes the face while the club stays behind the hands. It’s a super common issue. People come down and they keep their glove logo facing the camera in this spot and it should be turning to look at the target. That forearm rotation is what closes the face in a pro swing, and allows them to have the wrist bent back longer. If you had your wrists bent back longer you’d shank stuff and hit it way right. So you instead cast out some angles to help square the face.
https://youtu.be/VsZ8yhrolbw?si=L_l4RiZEV4h1pn4O
That’s TPI explaining how the wrists should work. You can see, if you don’t have the arm rotation you’ll have to make up for it from somewhere else, which is that scoop move.
Nice grip
Lead with your elbow.