The Top 5 Most Underrated Athletes | Lift Companion

Zack, Dylan and Chris sit down to discuss some lesser know greats in sports.

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Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
01:25 – Golf Legends
09:39 – Unknown Sports
17:09 – Wrestling
20:48 – The Bad Guys
31:38 – The Unrepresented Names

[Music] okay The Honorable venerable Dylan Cooper to my right and piss Williamson all the way from Newcastle upon time to my left as you can see Chris sorry piss is wearing lift companion shirt I too am wearing lift companion shirt you can check it out on barbell pearl.com the best shirts in all the land uh today because I was an idiot and worked out with some CrossFit dudes called the cholesterol Brethren the ghee guys L Lads the L Lads that’s so good I worked out with them and did this crazy squat workout which Alex will be showing you right here I can hardly feel my legs so we’re going to do some upper body stuff and of course these two degenerates have no issue with that at all um if we could we could just be playing Xbox um while we make this episode but fortnite companion dude for forite companion um today’s episode we’re going to talk about the most underrated athletes and I’m actually stoked about this cuz I’ve been thinking about this for a while we each have a list of five athletes uh and of course you guys are welcome to comment who you think is underrated athlete not talked about enough uh who wants to start with with their first one let’s go you go first okay VJ sing Oh Baby he was a dog but Tiger Woods was Tiger Woods when he was a dog yeah BJ Singh is a sick call he took uh he tiger was best in the world for like 280 weeks in a row and then he took it over for a little bit Y and then it went back to tiger for like another 200 weeks VJ is um was he South americ or South African though I know he’s Indian but wasn’t he living in South Africa who am I thinking of I might be thinking oh Ernie ell’s that’s yeah dude so this is the best part about golf is you can come up with the coolest names and get people fired up yeah which easily one of the guys on my list Zach Johnson you remember him no 12 PGA titles Z Johnson uh Tiger Woods it’s crazy how two of the PE both people already are golers of Tiger Woods that they were yeah I me underrated yes so part of this list Chris is what we were realized when we were talking about before I’m going underrated because of the superstars that existed so you think about the Michael Jordan era lot of underrated guys potentially LeBron era but there’s other guys now coming through it’s kind of like the LOF rno sort of effect right you’re permanently going to be subjugated by an absolute outlier Superstar Masha Tazza is like that guy you can be a once in a generation Talent but there’s a once in a century talent that happens to be during the generation guess what go [ __ ] yourself yeah that’s liter that is literally latal haza has ruined weightlifting dude [ __ ] people are like oh uh oh like a 210 snatch that’s pretty like that’s okay zor or Gore Gore minasian snatch 217 that’s the second heaviest snatch ever no one knows who the [ __ ] that guy is because of lha so that’s an honorable mention Gorman Asian okay but I said Zack Johnson underrated because Tiger Woods Chris do you have anyone uh no you told me about this 2 minutes ago so I’m thinking okay cool very cool dude well um feel free to hop in but I think that’s the main thesis of this this whole thing is like if you just find a era where someone was dominant crazy dominant and just think about the other good players MH you got an underrated guy yeah yeah that’s good chair sounds stable yeah it it really is actually it’s where the mold’s coming from probably this one chair I’ll do another one um oh there goes the mic crotch Mike uh Ken Griffey Jr people don’t they think about him and they think he’s a good hitter but he hit 630 home runs holy [ __ ] yeah but like Barry Bonds and Mark Maguire were [ __ ] Sammy SSA we’re all doing their thing and Ken griffy is just hitting 630 home runs and he’s not up on that list when he zet should be Zach introduced you to baseball doesn’t exist yeah oh man probably the up there with one of the best sports YouTube channels I’ve ever seen I agree so this guy does uh video documentaries about baseball he used to do about 20 minute to 30 minute videos he recently did an hourlong breakdown about baseball culture in Japan uh and it’s perfectly well edited everyone should go and check it out once they finish watch in this um but he has this great video about how the steroid era was much more about juicing of the balls than juicing of the players H so oh yeah and he’s got the stats to back it up too correct so there’s one family that like sifts the mudh that is smeared around the inside of the core of every MLB baseball and it’s been this one they no one knows where it is and they use this special type of shovel it’s like this one [ __ ] family that’s done it for a hundred years or something and um there was this period where they changed the supplier of the thread or the the type of Dy that they use on the thread to thread the ball together completely changed the game immediately changed the game so these tiny minute adjustments that they made some other change to the type of uh hardening thing that they used for the thread and it was ripping players hands up uh and the there’s an argument to be made that the baseball steroid era the distance that they were getting exit velocity and distance on the ball was more to do with what was happening in the ball than in the body wow interesting have you heard that the PGA Tour is like rolling the golf ball back again I feel like they I feel like they’ve already done that Am I Wrong they’ve been talking about how it might be a thing to make it less pingy yeah yeah apparently it’s only going to shave like 15 yards off of like the top drivers but that’s still like it’s considerable because dude think about you can’t just adjust a course you can’t just make a course longer I mean you you potentially could drive but like we’re talking about landscape we’re talking about ter terraforming things they’ve already moved the T boxes back like at austa they’ve done it on like every hole and they’re [ __ ] out of space so it’s like let’s just make the golf ball less cool or like put restrictions on the new technology that comes out with the clubs or something wow dude there’s so many different things we could talk about the big one was yonel lesni was a uh and people are going to like this um Javelin thrower and then they nerfed the javelin big made heavier or something slightly heavier SL slightly less aerodynamic or it was I think what was happening was if you threw into the wind the wind would like Pick It Up Lift It yeah and and like dude people it was crazy like they didn’t have uh infields long enough for it well that’s the thing I guess the beautiful thing about golf is that the records that people really care about obviously in Javelin people care about winning their heat and then their particular meat I guess the competition that they’re a part of but really what you’re looking for is the record of all time or the women’s record or the Olympic record or the indoor record or whatever but if you make changes to the thing that is the sport I.E the thing that you’re throwing the records become all right so we now got two strata of Records difference being with golf weight classes and weightlifting that’s where head weren difference being with golf no one’s like oh the you know St Andrews course the best score of all time is this or that because this course gets changed even by a little bit pretty regularly so making the ball more or less just changes within the competition as opposed to across all time of the sport you know what I mean yeah that the big the big example of that like I was trying to like I was saying was weightlifting they just changed the weight classes because of steroid issues a lot of steroid Fallout from 2012 that was the biggest one the 94 kilo class it’s like 10th Place got third or even more than that like it was crazy everyone got a metal in the mail like eight years later crazy so then they just are like oh well these records are [ __ ] so let’s just restructure the classes restruct guy ever been brought to account that to toski guy that yeah cuz he got popped right he like basically got to capitalize on being this super super lifter for forever and then retroactively got it pulled but in the interim kov got retro pulled I mean everyone if it was just like one or two people then it would have been an issue I feel like there would have been some consequences down the road for those guys like taraki probably wouldn’t be as popular like if he was seen as this guy but everyone’s that guy he wasn’t an outlier not at all if anything the people that haven’t been popped are the outlier like it’s impress they made it this far [ __ ] weo yeah it’s very very interesting sport um also Okay so this guy that I’m about to talk about this is would be the other category so the first one is like and we we’ll continue down this path but like you know Tiger Woods era golfers anyone that was prolific during that time is underrated that’s objectively true same thing you could say with the Jordan era L era um but this one is unknown sport so like if if you’re not in a sport that is you know widely known but you’re prolific [ __ ] again like people should know about you that’s the underrated thing so this guy Ryan krower do you know who Ryan krower is you know Ryan kower Ryan kower is the greatest thrower of all time and he’s in the current he’s throwing so we’re talking about a sport that is the representative of strength and power in the biggest Olympic sport like it’s why the Olympics were created track and field essentially and he so so we have the most Pro uh the most impressive athlete in the power D like power part of this a power and strength you know dynamic of this and he exists now and no one [ __ ] cares and he’s American like no Americans know about this guy a two-time Olympic gold medalist which is crazy out of America three-time World Champion holds the world record in the shop both indoor and outdoor set the Outdoor World Record at 2356 M and uh the he just recently threw uh 23.38% [Music] 150 for like three reps at a time also being able to box jump like 50 in 55 in at like right around what like 320 lbs yeah doing those like bounce cleans at like 2210 yeah easy NFL lineman yeah easy would be terrifying yeah it’s just how they’re throwing Big Balls around being a dog all right Dylan hit me my phone’s by the camera I got data on there hold on Chris give us an unknown Sport with a prolific athlete any cricketers yeah so when I think about um some of the stuff in cricket you know you you look at really great batsman uh you look at players that have played for uh I think Sachin tendulka uh Indian player who just one of the greatest batsmen of all time like literally sort of as a demig god um but those aren’t necessarily the ones that I think are the most impressive in terms of athletes like it’s a very particular type of endurance in cricket you know you can bat you being at the crease for days at a time one or two days I think is I think it was him or someone else that hit 501 this an individual player scored 5501 runs in a single Innings right so this guy was at bat for like [ __ ] three days which is insane um but one of the guys that uh comes to mind for athleticism is Paul Collingwood so Paul Collingwood English player played for Durham then moved on to be a coach but he was a freak Fielder so his ability to uh pick the ball up in what we would consider the infield and be able to hit the wickets was just so far beyond what pretty much anybody else could do do like single arm pickups and cross body throws so you can think because you’ve got three stumps like this that are straight on crease to crease so you’ve got like you’re bowling like this and you face it that way it means that the square that you get to the stumps you go from seeing three to sing two to sing one right that’s now like that side on and this guy would regularly run people out that tried to get quick singles because trying to hit a single stump from 25 yards away whilst moving cross body single arm throw under pressure is really and this guy would just snipe people and he was my Fielding coach when I was at Durham Academy he would come in and do that and I remember seeing him like he would have plastic stumps sticking out of the ground and he would be able to pick which one he was going to hit from 30 yards away he would go like left [ __ ] and that one would be hit out of the ground and he go Center [ __ ] and then that one and you just leave one at the end and then hit that phenomenal so and that’s really cool like baseball fieldings good but baseball Fielding is mostly uh raw power right it’s like just real accuracy with the throw and raw power you got can you just get that velocity out of your hand whereas in cricket there’s a lot more agility right there’s diving there’s stops because the ball’s hit on the ground a lot more it’s not a big [ __ ] arcing Drive of some kind where you’ve got a bit of time and then you catch and then you try and get someone yeah from The Outfield yeah um in cricket it’s much more fast-paced like little tosses and stuff like that and then honor mention to Sam Billings who is I think the most skillful Wicket keeper that exists at the moment British Wicket keeper he plays in the more fast-paced like one day game and what he can do both with a bat and while keeping he also Fields as well is just freakish like he is so unbelievably fast and athletic he’s invented enti new shots that basically no one’s ever done before this just absurd handy coordination so there’s uh to Paul Collingwood and Sam B I love the idea of like an athlete or like a subset of athletes that change the game so we like the sweeping any any bit of a sweeping ball coming out of a pitcher’s hand it’s like a relatively new phenomena and the only way we could tell why it was happening was like new cameras that could detect like it was what was happening was like the angle of the arm was what’s changing it wasn’t just the RPMs we used to think like everything was about RPM just reps yeah but it’s actually RPM at the angular velocity that’s released actually there one for you look at me just going down the full Cricket rabbit hole it’s guy called Shane ju uh most legendary leg spin bowler of all time so when you bowl yeah a screw ball yeah so you come up and over and you do this with your hand as you release it so arms going that way hands going that way so uh mechanically very complex lots and lots of like waywood balls a lot of the time wide balls and and stuff that’s like gimmies this guy could turn the ball 4 feet off the ground like four or 5T and some of the things that he he did it’s like batsman just looked at it and I have no idea when he first started playing people had no idea what to do his first ever ball his first ever ball in international cricket he bowls this guy round his legs this ball pitches so far wide that the batsman just disregards it and it turns four and a half you can even play it like Alex put it over the top of this it’s it’s obscene what this guy could do the amount of revs that he could put on the ball he could just rip this ball sideways off the ground and uh he was just the most dominant leg spinner forever he’s like the most legendary leg spinner in history Australian guy so there we go bit of cricket for you anglicizing this great nation of so I can degenerate some perverts and convicts all right next up for me uh another unknown sport wrestling rling I have wrestling can I guess yeah you long Garder no damn can I guess yeah Kurt Angle no but Kurt Angle was a very very good Collegiate wrestle can I guess yeah CH Sanderson no [ __ ] Clos one more yeah uh Kyle D no okay never mind okay so you said cha Sanderson yeah are you kale Sanderson oh yeah [ __ ] so you you met kale Sanderson I just have a speech impediment I was right okay so you were right cuz I thought you were saying cha Sunnet who also was a good Greco wrestler little kale Sanderson Chris you’re going to love this former American folk style and freestyle wrestlers is a current head coach of Penn State which Penn State’s an incredible team yep um as a wrestler he won an Olympic gold medal okay already in incredible undefeated four years of college 159 and zero now they say he also went undefeated in high school for four years and then I think on top of that cuz in wrestling what weird is in 8th grade if you know you’re going to feed into a high school I’m pretty sure you can wrestle for your high school I think back then you could I think you I think you still can I I’m almost positive so this guy never I’m pretty sure never lost a [ __ ] match for like 10 straight years kind of like Kellin okay yeah when he finished in I think it was and I don’t want to butcher this I’m just going to say Iowa State if it’s iow I feel really bad I’m sorry guys um I think it was his final match he got like a 35 minute standing ovation like it was it they just shut the event Down Standing Ovation like it just did not stop it’s the greatest like most prolific athlete in Iowa State history I think for sure I think wrestling has some of the coolest culture out of any sport it’s dude it’s gnarly I did it for 3 years and I like there was Zero bitching or complaining about anything like with their Federation or like I heard none of that people [ __ ] beating the [ __ ] out of each other yeah from a very young age super young the American like feeder program into the Olympics is you know it’s competitive with Russia which is just crazy to think about because Russian wrestling is also insane um but paired with that I have Dan Gable he invented the Gable grip okay Gable grip is this one right here Chris M so you don’t lock the thumbs mm do this why don’t you want to lock the thumbs it’s not as strong and I think it’s also dangerous for your thumbs like you can jam your thumbs a real bad so this around someone’s waist you could you know do it in like arm triangle uh super powerful grip very very very powerful very effective for men on other men Yes Men on other men that’s what we like here uh and you know another prolific guy uh two time a division one Champion World gold medalist Olympic gold medalist third wrestler to uh be invited into the United World Wrestling Hall of Fame in the legend category Donald Trump gave him the presidential medal of freedom I thought you were going to say presidential pardon for like that would be cool OJ Simpson anyone brought him up dude he was so good the juice oh my god do you know underrated underrated you know that’s the wrong Caitlyn Jenna yeah yeah that’s the wrong oh okay new category here they’re known for the bad thing they did well not Caitlin J Aaron Hernandez Aaron Hernandez Aaron Hernandez super underrated tight end let me tell you I mean montio pretty good linebacker if if you ask really bad online dater that’s really [ __ ] funny online backa no yeah OJ was like the man bro he was like the dude that dude like changed an era of football and also changed an era of Pop Culture I read the um I found out about what happened with uh I did it that book you heard about that you know the story about this no I didn’t do it but if I did here’s how I would have but do you know uh when he wanted to make some money so he wrote a book if if I did it yeah yeah that’s what his book released was if I did it uh 400,000 copies of the book get pulped because they’re like you can’t [ __ ] do like you don’t get to do this for some reason he wasn’t allowed to release it he was found not guilty I think in criminal court but was found guilty in Civil Court which meant that uh many of his assets were taken by the family one of the families um one of the assets was the book manuscript they then released it it and called the book if I did it but if you actually look at the front cover of the book the word if is contained in the eye of I did it so it’s like if I did it so it reads like I did it uh but it’s not it’s if I did it wow and they owned it and released it and made a like ton of money off it holy sokes are you up you’re up no right uh oh yeah so you were talking about how uh like people that changed the game whatever we were talking whoever you listed blast um with the yeah yeah we’re talking about sweeping fast balls and yeah yeah with the uh occurrence of Steph Curry and what he’s done y Ray Allen is severely underrated now o because he was kind of that guy back when uh basketball wasn’t as mainstream well three-point shooting wasn’t as mainstream at all yeah like I think Michael Jordan’s greatest three-point season I think he maybe had 43s yeah and he like shot in the 30s 30% yeah whereas like doesn’t Steph like regularly go over a 100 or something or it’s got to be way no he’s done he’s I’m pretty sure he hasn’t more seasons than not of going over 200 thre a year which is wild that’s I don’t know what it is cuz they play a shitload of games and he averages like four threes a game like that Chris you had on that guy Seth Stevens devids can you drop a few for every inch in height that you gain over 6 foot your chance of going to the NBA doubles so 61 is twice as likely as 6 foot and 62 is twice as likely as 6’1 and it goes all the way up most common forgive me because I’m [ __ ] um that’s not exponential is it no it’s just linear okay oh actually well because it doubles yeah might be it is exponential sorry yeah it doubles each time good um come on uh most common name of all basketball players in the NBA is Michael and you might think not a particularly black name or the black people in the NBA uh reason being that there’s a sort of beautiful Urban myth that basketball is a game where underclass youths can get themselves out of the dumps and drag themselves up by their uh work ethic but as with many sports privilege access to great coaches uh good nutrition lots of Leisure Time parents stable homes all of the things massively benefit and Michael is a pretty middle class name uh Christopher also one of the most common names like LeBron super [ __ ] rare name mhm but also born to a 16-year-old single mother right LeBron’s an outlier I bet there’s tons of LeBron’s now you like in 2006 I bet there was lots of Britney and I bet there’s lots of like Beyonce and stuff another thing too the obvious implication is Michael Jordan right okay very interesting what uh isn’t there a crazy percentage of people over uh 7t tall don’t they have like a double digit percentage of getting to the NBA one in seven one in seven people over seven like if you are over 7t tall yeah you you’ve got a one in seven CH like if you just put that is crazy put your like hand to basketball here’s one of the stats that people didn’t y yeah which compared with like and you go down to 66 even or 6 foot and it’s absurd how hard it is to get into the NBA and then if you’re tall it’s just obscene how easy it is one of the things that uh I told you about this really doesn’t get looked at from an NBA stats standpoint is hand span so Hand span’s hugely predictive uh so I think Shaq has a 14in in thumb that ISS I mean hand span hand span so much of that is uh being able to just like grasp the ball in the air obviously being able to Palm a ball pretty big deal right um but yeah those were huge dude so much stuff um the sons of NBA players are better free throw throwers so uh Steph Curry his dad Steph is uh by percentage I think he’s like four points better than his father interesting even though you would expect if someone’s a genetic outlier that the subsequent generation would have regression to the mean mhm so someone you should get like if you’re a freak person your son should be shorter because everything regresses back to the mean typically uh so what this suggests is that uh free throw throwing Shooter free throw shooting uh is very very heavily socialized it’s his father who has an unbelievable set of skills and tactics has coached his son from age one to be perfect and he’s basically honed his skill passed that down and then refined it better which is why Sons throw better than fathers so also free throws are the least skilled but most disciplined so if you so shooting your foul shots or shooting your free throws like that was a big thing for coaches to be like there’s no [ __ ] excuse to be bad at foul shots there’s no one guarding you and like honest to God there are you know grandparents can shoot a free throw you know like 9-year-old there’s like a a record for like the most free throws hit in a row was done by like a 65-year-old dude so this guy was saying like like so so that makes sense where you have uh a father who wants his son to play basketball to then make him super disciplined on shooting free throws there’s no doubt about it in my mind that what’s his dad’s name [ __ ] Dell Dell that Dell had Steph literally just sitting there shooting all day shooting foul shots all day there’s also Seth Curry isn’t that a there’s another one it’s his brother place for the I don’t know if he still does but MAV Seth and step y yeah there’s a a famous football commentator who has a brother that is um owns Ocean Ocean Club ABA uh he’s like just a degenerate party boy and uh they’re the liners and there’s oh it’s it must be his like cousin or whatever Wayne Dwayne and [Music] Shane I mean me and my brothers it’s Ryan Dylan and Cullen oh you got the Linds the ly the Lynn Brothers uh okay I’m going to throw the the hockey players a uh a bone here Mark Messier uh his career span from 1979 to 2004 ho yeah I thought that would have been pretty rough on the old dude there are some old guys in hockey that just like stick around isn’t oetkin still going yeah that’s he’s like completely gray yeah he’s just out there on the ice [ __ ] people up mess six-time Stanley Cup champion second to Wayne Gretzky in alltime points Hall of Famer easy underrated cuz he played with Gretzky yeah straight up it’s also one of those longevity things you brought up Ken griffy Ken griffy didn’t he have he also has like he’s part of that discussion of games in a row yeah uh but the winner of that would be Cal rck andin Jr Cal rkin Jr I think Ken griffy Jr yeah and both of their fathers played in the league Ken griffy played on the same team as his dad as his dad dad okay and I did Cal Ripken Jr play with his dad or was his dad not in the league either way think so that again that’s another discipline stat dude it’s another [ __ ] discipline stat that like if you’re a father and want to get your kid better and you know you can check off this is the lwh hanging fruit is discipline like show up to every game never take a game off foul shots things of that nature that’s a really cool stat I lived in like germant toown Maryland M and we would go to Orioles games and watch [ __ ] Calen he was like at a poster of in my room that D was Jesus Christ to me when I was growing up what a beast yeah all right I I have one more do you have one more I got one okay but no I mean that’s it we’re done after these two I think should we start rowing or should we just [ __ ] keep inclining forever I think I’m I’m done working out okay I’ll be done working out too let’s just spill every drink while we’re at it huh um I got one who’s still active I think his first name is Demetri I don’t have it on my list but uh bivel the guy that just beat Canelo like two years ago okay um no one if you look at like mainstream boxing and stuff he has not brought up a lot at all and he pieced up Canelo wasn’t it at weren’t there always some excuse it was one we class up always an excuse yeah but like I don’t know that he still pieced up Canelo like if the best weightlifter ever went up a weight class went up a weight class should still dude if that be stings me I’m going to get so much stronger um think of the best weightlifter in the world Ilia when he was a 94 he went up a weight class he was still the best weightlifter in the world yep and like it was close but he still won like his first meet every meet as a 105 and I’m sure there’s other sports you could like Alex Pereira in in UFC right now you think he’s underrated no no not at all but he one in middleweight went up is dominating in light heavyweight yeah yeah that that kind of makes sense but if it’s Canelo people love and treasure Canelo so much so when he gets beat it’s like yeah it was at a different weight class that’s why I think he’s underrated cuz he did beat the [ __ ] out of Canelo like it was kind of close but still he beat the greatest boxer alive right now I think that’s it I think that’s all what about uh oh I’ve got one more okay go ahead I’ll let you do yours Reggie Miller yeah Pacers that’s a personal one for me because I grew up in the Jordan era and I was never scared of anyone as a fan being like Oh the Bulls just win yeah which is a very funny experience for like the your entire youth just being like Oh yay the Bulls win again ha like this is so fun this is what we do we just win and now look at the Bulls like they’re just a terrible organization you know and and just having that dynasty just spoiled the [ __ ] out of me Reggie Miller still scared the [ __ ] out of me dude yeah he was crazy yeah for some reason like the the Pacers would just give the Bulls the hardest time ever he was an incredible shooter um just’s a maniac on defense too incredible player dude yeah another Jordan era forgotten guy kind of like Tracy McGrady yeah T-Mac dude he has one of the alltime most legendary performances in the sport of basketball 13 points in 31 seconds yep no one’s ever 13 points in 31 seconds dude twos and threes they were down like 11 and he came back 31 seconds left in the game he scored all 13 and they won it’s the coolest Sports highlight I think ever dude so this is a funny one I’m at the 2003 allstar game Alex post a picture of me and Nelly okay that’s where I met Nelly cuz my dad dad goes yo Nelly I’m like oh my God can you take a picture with my son he’s like yeah sure dog bends over takes a picture with me that’s that picture but I’m at the like celebrity shoot around beforehand my dad’s a sports riter so I got this crazy access as a 13-year-old kid dude [ __ ] gnarly standing there Paul Pierce walks past me um that was me is it dead yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] it D you got to get a 73 batter so much longer well here we’ll do this plug this in there it doesn’t work the input’s broken on this camera well that was the last one so we can do this I’m just going to hold it yeah all right our budget production failed us we ran out of battery on that thing right there and uh the internal temperature on that thing got too hot which whatever I was just yapping on some [ __ ] I don’t even know uh hope you guys like the video more LIF companions in the future subscribe do all that cool [ __ ] um what else dude I don’t even know comment if you guys have any underrated athletes and argue a lot so the algorithm uh picks us up and we can overtake Mr Beast see you guys later bye okay [Music] la n [Applause]