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Where can we put Sealis in the tier list? Do we put it over Thomas Artan? Same rank, A tier. And I would actually look into Seialis before looking into Thomas Sartan because it has more practical benefits. As much as we see it as a an erection performance boosting drug, it has these benefits of performance-based aspects in the gym that people are biohacking with it from a PD perspective as opposed to even thinking of health benefits. And that just carries over. Then when you go to the gym, like we’re talking about, you’re lowering your blood pressure from one aspect. Just don’t get sexually stimulated in the gym. Yeah. Nowadays, there’s so many only fans girls in the gyms. It’s you really got to select where you do your training. Oh my god, man. Especially when you’re Seialis. Yeah. It’s it’s a loaded weapon, man. So, a lot of people control their blood pressure with Seialis. The downside is acid reflux. you take your sealis with oral steroids, you’re going to be burping acid the whole day unless you take a proton pump inhibitor or increase your stomach acid with beten hydrochloride and apple cider vinegar. So that also comes with a little bit of an instruction manual. Um low dose 5 milligrams seialis 10 milligrams if you’re a big guy I think you can do a lot of good but also a lot of harm. Um, do you guys have any experience with Seialis as blood pressure medications or recreationally? Well, you know, everyone’s tried it with the pump. Um, it’s it’s an experience. If you stack another few things on top of it, um, can be quite the experience training arms or training chest. Yeah, I think from a a blood pressure perspective, yeah, the the knock-on effect of CGMP and raising um like again endothelial nitric oxide production, you’re probably only going to see maybe a drop in blood pressure of like four or five points. Now, that might be enough to take you from 140 down into 135 or 135 into 130. But then you’re getting all the other potential benefits. It has a long halflife. It can be used maybe once, twice per week. I see it quite often being prescribed by um TRT clinics now as a an adgivant for blood pressure management alongside TRT because in the UK it’s relatively cheap um on a private prescription perspective that adding one or two pills per week to a TRT dose uh gives the benefit of satisfaction in the bedroom but also blood pressure management and then you carry that into the gym. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of guys are more like when they start this journey of TRT, they’re probably more receptive to adding something like Seialis because they heard about that. I think Thomas Art and we all know about this in the bodybuilding space but Seialis has of course legendary status with general population where um you know it’s it helps with erection quality and might help with libido um because you have more confidence in your erection and in that sense um you know they’d rather run that and the blood pressure management is in warm add its benefit which initially that’s what it was designed for but they prescribe it for its side effects basically. You know, and you could micro dose um se uh what is it? The Viagra or Levitra. You could micro dose those because they have shorter half lives. So, you would need to take those once or twice per day. Um or twice per day. There’s like dietary restrictions too with those versus seal, right? Really? You don’t take Viagra with fat in a meal. It’s not Oh, right. Yeah. Because I didn’t I’m just saying you have to time it correctly. There’s, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Seialis you could take one. It’s much easier to use. Yeah, for sure. And it it has a compounding effect. So what a lot of guys notice is that they start with five milligrams and then after a week or two it really reaches peak serum levels and they get a little bit of this flushing effect where the capillaries dilate and then you get a lot of blood flow through the face and then it feels like you stuck your face in a hot oven. Um and you get the same effect with Thomas when you start that at at you know 80 milligrams per day or 40 milligrams per day. um because you get that capillary dilation and then your face gets um hot. You can really feel that in your skin. Um so there’s a lot of a side effect that people don’t really expect and then suddenly that happens when they first use these medications. Your body slowly adapts that or you adapt to the feeling or this uh this heat that you get through your skin is a little bit more pronounced than before due to the blood flow. Same thing from red wine, right? What is the resveratrol? Mhm. So Dean, if you drink red wine, do you are you on the floor from hypotension? Me? I I can’t remember the last time I drank red wine. Must have been when I was in college. Jesus, that must been like 15 years ago. Right. So with red wine, you have the resveratrol, right? And it can also have a dilating effect. And then people get red ears from the capillary dilations. And that can also lower their blood pressure. And that’s how a lot of alcoholics justify their uh their wine consumption because blood pressure. It’s nothing different than some guys. lowers cholesterol, too. It doesn’t mean it’s any good for you. It’s It’s dissolving your body from the inside, the alcohol. So, that’s um So, where can we put Sealis in a tier list? Do we put it over Thomas? Same rank. A tier. I think it’s eight. Yeah, I think it’s a tier. I like it. Yeah, I would actually look into sealis before looking into Thomasartan because it has more practical benefits. Yeah. Well, I guess one of the things that causes impotence is high blood pressure, ironically. Yeah. Or ironically. So, you’re you’re probably going towards that that root cause taking something like this. Um, and it probably falls in line like the preworkout supplementation. Like as much as we see it as a an erection performance boosting drug, it has these benefits of performance-based aspects in the gym that people are biohacking with it from a PD perspective as opposed to even thinking of health benefits. And that just carries over. Then when you go to the gym, like we’re talking about, you’re lowering your blood pressure from one aspect. just don’t get sexually stimulated in the gym. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You get the boners in the gym. Yeah. Nowadays, there’s so many only fans girls in the gyms. It’s you really got to select where you do your training. Oh my god, man. Sounds [ย __ย ] shorts wedged up all the way to the You guys know I’m here to train. If I want to see that, I’ll go to Pornhub. Please stop it. Especially when Yeah, it’s it’s a loaded weapon, man. But yeah, I would I would rather have people look into Seialis as like the first line of defense of blood pressure management than Thomas because again from a practical perspective, it has more benefits and the Thomas Artin benefits are mostly on paper. There is a lot of mental masturbation when it comes to the benefits the additional benefits of Thomas and how much that really plays out in the real world like people again they hammer on the PPR receptor agonism but how much metabolism boost or fat loss you get from toart and I think it’s negligible I think growth hormone is a bit of fat loss agent and that’s a very expensive fat loss agent um you know for what it is it’s not clen it’s not SLU it’s not you know these other fat burning aids that we at our disposal. You’re saying SLU versus growth hormone? Yeah, I think SLU burns more fat than growth hormone from a from a finance perspective. Pharmaceutical growth hormone. I would disagree with that. And the dose in a do Yeah. Of course, it’s a dose dependent manner. Yeah. Yeah. But if you pharmaceutical growth hormone, if you look at the cost Oh. Yeah. Yeah. No, I’m just saying from a fat loss point of view, I don’t think anything’s going to burn fat and preserve muscle as well as we’re talking about serostim specifically here, right? Or genotropen, omnotropen. Yeah. Just saying, you know, you you use enough pharmaceutical growth hormone, you can eat whatever you want. Yeah, true. Unless you have unless you were born with very odd genetics. That’s also true. Yeah. But you really need to run a substantial amount of GH. Yeah, we’re talking about HIV close to HIV patient dosages. Yeah. And that’s for most people unaffordable or they can’t deal with the carpal types. Yes. I know. I’ve been there and I I will agree like if you if you go with the HIV dose then you can just do whatever and still get lean and basically mutate but it’s either unobtainable under unaffordable or or the carpal tunnel which potassium sauce. Well, I was going to say, yeah. Um, and and with the pharmaceutical growth, there shouldn’t be the side effects even at that dose. Those go away. It’s temporary. Really? How long do you need to run it? I don’t know. I’ve been on it for years. I don’t have any. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Years. I wonder how long it would take like for for a beginner to kind of ramp up the doses. And then when I ramped up, I went 369 to get to nine and then I’d go back to six. We’re talking about milligrams, guys. That true milligrams. No, I use Sorry. I I went 1 1 milligram, 2 milligram, 3 milligram. [ย __ย ] you, Kurt. Um, nine I use and then um 3 milligrams 9. 9 milligrams of growth hormone. 9 milligrams of growth hormones is a lot. Um, okay. The back to six for a couple weeks and then and then it was transient on occasion like you’d wake up sometimes and one hand would be numb maybe the way you were laying on it, but I haven’t had numb hands in two years from it. Okay. But initially, initially you had it. Initially there’s some, but it goes away when I feel like with the UGL stuff with the binders and stuff, it doesn’t really go away. It seems to the ramp the dose of it gets worse and just kind of sticks around. Um, and I haven’t been below 9 IUs or 3 milligrams in 3 years. Okay. Yeah. And you eat whatever you want. I mean, I choose to clean. Yeah. I mean, could I? I’m sure I could if I chose to. I wonder what would happen if you go to Disneyland with the family and just eat. I lose weight on I thought so cuz then you’re walking around and you can’t you can’t actually eat enough food. It just garbage food but you’re not eating enough of it, right? Cuz you get full eat that [ย __ย ] and then you’re full for six hours and it can’t even get the food in. It doesn’t doesn’t digest. Yeah. I don’t know. I’m not I I’m the opposite. Like I’ll lose weight. Even when I went to Vegas with you guys, I lost weight. I g I lost initially and then I gained. Did you? Um, yeah, but I can eat like a [ย __ย ] maniac. And it’s, you know, I mean, I’m in the US. I gota I have like 10 days to eat garbage. So, I’m going to eat all the garbage I can see. And then I have to go back to Thailand where the garbage is non-exist. Well, there is garbage here, but it’s not as garbagey. Yeah, it’s not as garbage this year. A lot of garbage. That’s why I’m not going this year so I can actually, you know, not get fat and have to do a, you know, a binge and purge. Um, where were we? Sealis. Okay, so Seattle, let’s put it in a tier. Um, even though I would say it’s the first line of defense against high blood pressure if all the other stuff is not working. It’s probably a better introduction into blood pressure management

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  1. The hardest side effect for me has been nasal congestion bc i use cpap with nasal mask. Any tips for this type of congestion

  2. i take 5 mg daily for years with no sideffects, except boners.. On the flipside, classic Sidenafil gives me terrible stuffed nose and headache. .. and "dirty" feeling. Overall i think tadalafil is an excellent compound that can be taken daily longterm.

  3. I'm on 5mg of Cialis a day for the past 10 months, – zero negative side effects. 6 weeks in to 180mg test c per week (via 3x inj per week). Chest and arm pumps are completely off the charts and last a lot longer than previously. I'm reasonably lean (low teens body fat) and I feel unreal. Gym performance is up, general well being is up, mood improved, I feel switched on.

  4. Guys can someone speak to GH Gyno? Even if estrogen and prolactin are low end of reference range? Im getting gh gyno even tho my e2 and prolactin are super low and not on any AAS

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