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Of course, when the time we went, it wasn’t this time of year. I was thinking about that actually earlier. I was like, we uh two 2020 Masters, you’ earned your way in from winning the US Amitter the year before. Uh obviously that was the one where everything kind of went crazy. The world went crazy because of co uh so they moved it to the fall, but still an unbelievable experience. Can’t have the Masters come on without thinking about the time. I’ve still got that picture that I think Masters took you and I out on the practice, D, but it’s got to bring back a bunch of good memories. Yeah, I mean I was I was hoping that I might have a chance to get in this year based on Ace Tour order of merit, but unfortunately uh Augusta didn’t didn’t send a special invite. And I don’t know whether that had to do anything with LIB or or what, but I I was, you know, a little disappointed in that. And I thought there might be a might be a chance that they let uh the uh Asian Tour Order of Merit into the tournament, but you know, they have their own way of doing things and they uh obviously are entitled to having whoever they want in that field. So, um, but if I’m not mistaken, the Asian tour order of merit, it’s I’m not saying every year, but has I I remember as a kid, you know, as you know, to me, the Masters always had you always had some foreign players that they let in that like when I’m a kid, golf wasn’t as global like you saw players you didn’t necessarily know from Asia and different things. So, I don’t think it’s like it’s been it’s not like that hasn’t happened before that they Yeah, they they’ve definitely they’ve definitely done it a lot. I think uh I watched Fred Ridley’s uh state of the union if you will this morning and uh he he was saying that you know there are pathways for guy live players to get in. He was like looking at a guy like Walk Neman and how they gave him a special invite and stuff like that. He he said we always like to give international players um invites whether that be for better TV ratings or you know more worldwide broadcast or whatever the case may be. But, um, yeah, I mean, you know, I just I want to get back to the Masters. That’s one of my biggest goals. And, uh, it’s just such a special tournament. Uh, I’ I’ve been sick the last couple days, so I’ve just been watching live prop. And I mean, I don’t I don’t think I’ve left the couch and listened to uh, everyone, you know, give their opinions of who they think is going to play well and how the course is going to play. And super fascinating. It’s it’s such a special tournament because there’s so much history and you know it’s the only major that plays the same venue every year. So there’s uh so many shots from throughout the year so many different uh memories and then you know I have my own memories around that place as well. So um definitely definitely a cool week for me. Yeah. Well, if you picked a week to get sick, it’s a pretty good one if you got to sit on a couch. um but you know it was different that year because you know it was a little different golf course to prepare for. I’ve I’ve I’ve been fortunate to coach there I think three times and like that was a different one. You know the golf course I don’t know people going into it fans necessarily knew how different it was but that golf course played a lot different November than it did than it’s doing right now. I know they’re going to get some weather come through cuz we just had a whole bunch of it come through Mobile, Alabama, but um talk a little bit about how different that golf course played and kind of some of the prep work that we did. Yeah, I mean that time of year um I’ve I’ve actually played the golf course in November a few different times um coincidentally and it’s just the grass is a little longer in the fairways. Uh the fairways are a little softer, so you get a lot more mud balls. Um the golf course plays a little longer, but the greens are softer and uh a lot more receptive. So I think there’s a give and take. I think uh the course plays longer, but um it’s a lot easier because you can hold the long irons into the greens and you can hit it into the the small uh small sections without the ball releasing as much. So, um, I definitely think November was a different challenge than, uh, than what they’re experiencing now. And I think, you know, something that we talked a lot about when I played in November was the pitch shots into the banks were pretty tough because the banks were super soft, but the greens were super firm. Um, and f I mean, they’re not as firm as they normally are. They they’re not as firm as they are in April, but um, they’re still pretty firm and fast. And um we had a hard time hitting shots into the banks because the banks were so soft and the the grass was so long on the fringes that it was hard to to get the right skip and then uh get the right spin to stop it on the greens. Whereas in April, you can kind of use those banks and you can use those ridges in the greens to take the speed out of the ball and work it into different parts of the green. So, I think uh you know, it’s just a completely different test and um I’d love to love to get back and play one in April and get the full experience. Well, I I don’t have any doubt that you’re going to be there and I think also that golf world’s got to come together and figure this out at some point, but um when you look at you’ve played Augusta, I know from being at Tech and you’ve played it many times and you’ve played it, I’m sure you’ve played at this time of year. When you think about players preparing and getting ready to go this, you know, to play this week, what are some of the things that like what are some of the shots that are necessary to practice? And as you think about how you’re one of the best I’ve ever seen at thinking and navigating your way around the golf course. I’ve told you that before. What are some of the keys that you think players have to be able to do to work their way around the golf course, especially if it stays, you know, if the rain isn’t too bad and it stays fairly firm and fast? Yeah, I mean it looks like there’s going to be a lot of wind. So I think uh having a pen penetrating ball flight off the tee and having the ability to work the ball right to left um you know you play hole two for instance and they move that tee back another 10 yards this year. So you really have to turn it off that right bunker and for a right-handed player it’s a pretty tough shot. So, um, having the ability to hit kind of a high draw with enough spin with your driver is is something that a lot of guys will be working on this week. I think you’ll see a lot of, uh, people tinkering with equipment, tinkering with loss, tinkering with, uh, different weightings in their driver to have the ability to work the ball right to left with correct spin. Um, it’s not a shot that a lot of people are comfortable with. Um, especially with a with a high spinny driver. Um, you know, it’s the way technologies gone these past few years, it’s it’s hard to hard to keep enough spin on the driver. And I’ I’ve actually been working on that in my own game as well. Um, switching over to a ping driver. So, um, I think you’ll see you’ll see some guys tinker with that. And then uh you know a lot of people seem to do a few different things with their uh 60° wedge around Augusta because it seems like uh the chipping areas get pretty soft and and people want to add a little more bounce to their wedges around Augustus. So, um, you know, I think, uh, see a lot of people just trying to get used to the green speeds, trying to to hit a lot of right to left shots with with height and spin. And, uh, obviously there’s so many different pitch shots and and you have to draw pitch shots and hit high cut pit shots and control your spin, control your trajectories around those greens. So, it’s it’s definitely uh one of the one of the most brutal tests in golf and um but you know, if you know how to prepare and know where to miss it around those greens, you can you can really get around there well. So, I think uh this will be a fun masters to watch. It’s interesting to me every time I go because like you can, you know, like when you look at the leaderboard and and obviously there’s past champions that are older that aren’t going to play as well, but like you see guys that are really they’re great players shoot big numbers and you see guys that are great players shoot crazy low numbers in the same rounds. You know what I’m saying? like it like that golf course is getable and a lot of the time if you miss like you said if you miss it in the right place but you can not be crazy far off miss it in the wrong place and I mean disaster is not too terribly far around the corner. Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, you can you can kind of go through all the holes. And there’s there’s actually a really cool uh diagram that’s in the uh caddy the caddy shack or caddy dining, whatever you want to call it. Um it has all 18 greens and it has the low point on on each green. So, it has a a dot of where the lowest point on that green is and that’s kind of where the grain all goes to on on each green. So, um, my suggestion to anyone that’s a first timer there would be going in there going in there and checking out the, uh, the caddy diagram in the in the caddy house and and understanding where the where the low point is on each green because if you kind of end up in that area, you always kind of have an uphill putt and you can always work it to the different pins. So, um, you know, that was a that was a little secret that they let me in on when I last time I was there. little little hack there to get to help you around. You obviously the year you played the the US amateur champion plays with the defending Masters champion and it was Tiger Woods that year. Pretty cool experience. Talk a little bit about playing with Tiger. If you don’t mind, share a story. Everybody loves Tiger stories. I mean, that’s it’s nobody’s going to be mad at you for telling that, man. Uh yeah, it was awesome. Um, we’re getting ready to getting ready to tee off and you know, you don’t know what you’re going to say to Tiger. I’m not going to say anything. I’m just going to avoid him and let him do his thing, right? And he comes over to me on the putting green and it’s like, man, let’s go do this thing. Uh, might have had a couple extra adjectives in there, but um, he basically said, let’s go do this thing. And I was like, man, that’s super cool. and got me pumped up and we actually had to start on hole 10 because it was a rain delay that morning and um being November with the with the time change and everything um getting dark so early. We were had to do split te’s on the first two days. So, uh we teed off 10 and we had had a rain delay that morning. basically flooded the golf course. And we’re walking down 10 fairway. And as we top the hill, I noticed that Tiger’s kind of walking over to me like he’s about to say something. And I’m like, “Oh man, you know, what is he about to say?” And he comes over and he’s like, “Man, uh, wouldn’t it be cool to just get a running start and slide down this hill?” And I’m like, “What the hell? What did you just say?” I mean, that was the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard. I didn’t know how to respond. I just started laughing and um from then on I mean we we had a great time and just carried on around the carried on around the day. But um he was asking me like about staying in the crow’s nest and you know we we just had we had a lot of good conversations and uh he was he was super great to me. I think I you know it seemed to me from just watching I walked around and obviously that was a weird year too as a you know I was a patron technically there weren’t any there you know I mean there was nobody around uh so you’re kind you almost felt like you were in a practice round with nobody there and uh but it you know I think he it just seems to me like he for all that he is he he understands playing with him is a big deal and he tries to make an effort to calm you down or relax help you a little bit in the situation you were so that you can you can have the opportunity to play your best at the event as well. Yeah, for sure. I think uh you know it obviously helps him if if I’m playing well too. I think positive momentum and energy kind of feeds off the group. So he knew that if I was comfortable I’d probably play a little better and um he could probably get into his round a little better as well. So, um you know, I I was I was super grateful for how he treated me and um I’ve heard a lot of the the same stories like when Matt Cooer um played with Tiger at the Masters um in 98 and then um when Cooch was the defending USA champion and uh you know he he treated Cooch the same way and he was you know super nice to him even back Then so, uh, Pooch had given me a lot of advice of how to deal with the crowds and how to deal with different things. And it was it was weird because like you said, we had we had basically no crowds. There was the members all had a plus one and then, you know, basically just coaches and and family members. So, there wasn’t many people, but all the all the members that were there were kind of watching our group. I remember Yeah. We got on to uh we got on to whole nine T- box one day and I looked over and um to my right and my dad was standing right, you know, 5 ft from the T- box and he was walking with uh Peyton Manning, Roger Cadell, and Kirk Herb Street. And after after the round, I was like, “Man, that was that was awesome. You were walking with those three guys.” And my dad said, “Yeah, I was walking with Payton and these two other guys, you know, they were super nice. And uh I was like, “Dad, that was Roger Goodell and Kirk Gerbster.” He’s like, “Ah, I don’t know who that is, but that’s awesome.” You know, they they were great. Yeah, that’s funny. So, we had some we had some good stories around there. It was fun. It was kind of a who’s who like with the you know, with it only being members and plus one, like you saw some you actually could see some pretty famous people walking around the golf course and they were right there like just standing there. Yeah. just following my group. I mean, every it was hilarious. Everyone’s standing outside wearing their, you know, green jackets and then they had their mask on and whatever, but you could still kind of tell who people were. And I mean, probably every Fortune 500 CEO in the in the country was watching uh watching our group. So, last question, then I’ll let you go. Um, you obviously play in two days with Tiger. What did you learn anything watching him play? like did you take away anything from the golf aspect of of watching how he got around the golf course? Yeah, I mean he played amazing the first first two days. Um I think he shot bogey free four under the first round and then played played solid again the second round. But um it was just really cool to watch him kind of plot his way around. You could tell he had a plan for for each hole. Um for different slopes he would he would work it up against it depending on where the winds at. he would always kind of fight it up against the win. I think nowadays you see a lot of younger guys always trying to ride the win and get the extra 10 to 15 yards or whatever the case may be. But um playing with Tiger and watching how much he spins the ball and watching how he uses the ground to to get the ball closer to the pins and stuff like that, I think it was it was really cool for me to see. And um I definitely, you know, applied that some my own game and um I try to I try to work it up against the wind and gain spin as much as possible as well. So, uh that was that was really cool to see. But yeah, I I remember one shot in particular. We were on hole 12 and I I watched him pull nine iron and the wind’s into out of the right and he hits this kind of steep flighted cut up against the wind and hits it right in the middle of the green and I was like, “Oh, you know, I just need to hit a hard nine.” Tiger kind of worked it up against the wind and that ball that he plays is so spinny that his ball got hit way more by the wind and I hit this I hit the same shot. I thought I hit, you know, a low flighted cut, thought I had a lot of spin and it flew into the back bunker and I make doubles. So, um, you can’t really can’t really play the way he does. uh he’s got a different way of doing things and he’s unique in the fact that he plays such a spinny ball and and works it up against the wind as much as he does, but uh definitely definitely learning learned a lot from him and uh it was cool to watch him kind of plot his way around. I don’t think anyone knows the golf course as well as he does. Mm- No, I don’t think so. But it’s interesting cuz so many people everybody’s going for, you know, low spin. They talk about it and you know there’s maybe the greatest that’s ever played and he’s he’s got a ball that’s spinnier than everybody’s out there, you know. Yeah. Put it on. Crazy. Crazy. Andy, awesome stuff. Thanks for u thanks for taking the time. I know off week is uh there’s lots of stuff you do. So, appreciate you uh taking time. Hope you get feeling better, buddy. And and I’ll look forward to hanging out with you soon uh after this next little run of tournaments. You got it. Hi, this is Tony Rogerro and look recently several teachers I know and several players have had some scares with skin cancer. In fact, I recently went and saw a dermatologist here in town and I had a couple things frozen off eyelid, my face, my earlobe and not getting any younger. And I know I know it’s getting to that time of the season where it’s cooler. But look, being in the sun is a real deal. And I’ve not been very good to be totally honest my whole career at using it at all because I didn’t like how greasy it was, how hard it was to get off your hands, how it clogged up my pores. And then I found this sunscreen, Visor Skin Care. It’s clear. It goes on. It doesn’t dry you out. It isn’t greasy. It’s like you didn’t put anything on. 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