How To Release The Golf Club

How To Release The Golf Club. In this video TJ and Riley go over different ways to release the golf club. Which release do you have?

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up te what up dude pretty excited cuz today we get to talk about how to release the golf club let’s go let’s go we’re talking hand things Forum things yes sir Club face things mhm we’re talking release yes yeah one of our I’m very curious about it and one of our most um asked for topics to kind of dive deeper into sure absolutely I think what would be great is you know if you’re familiar with our Channel or it’s the first time you’ve ever watched us we we coach in this systems based approach meaning that systems have bookends to them where there’s space in here that would be adequate right like this is where we want to be and then if you run out of that book end you’re in fville right again it’s more difficult to hit good shots over here um and then the same thing on this end so I think what would be nice is to maybe explain both of those bookins okay and then players can decide based on their own preferences what they need because of body movement sure what they need for speed what they need for precision they can like pick what type of release pattern is going to match best for them so why don’t we start it um this like almost in a way kind of fully un unloaded phase or area which is um really about like so p7 is impact p8 is where the shaft gets leveled to the ground on the other side yes exactly and then if we even go like one step further where the the golf club the shaft goes out of the ribs on this side I mean the sexy thing that everybody talks about especially on social media is almost the club face pointing back at the camera yeah all right let’s start here okay let’s please do that because I’m curious sure well I want to hear your thoughts too te like I know you’ve been studying this stuff a lot especially like in release M so not every high level player throughout the course of history has done that and then if we go one step further this yes yeah very few have in history done that the great players I agree Okay Age like you see more of a release if you could like through those ribs again where the the toe is rotating beautiful that way more like we see like the Leading Edge is right in here and the toe is pointing on the on the plane line rather than the face pointing on the plane line and when you’re talking like rate of rotation everybody has this rate of rotation simply means is how aggressively is the face rotating through the through the Impact Zone and you know now we’re talking about like well low rate of rotation is a really good thing it can be it can be for sure it can be catastrophic as well sure if implemented poorly so you don’t have to have this sexy look of the face pointing back towards the camera once like it goes through the rips like not a necessity yeah and in fact we coach this yours doesn’t neither does mine yeah well I I I try like hell to make do it but it doesn’t do it but when we’re playing no it’s not it’s not like I’m forcing this to go that way right yeah exactly so like if you look throughout the course of history we got these great players Woods Y for the most part rotates it rotates it a bit uh you got these other guys Jimmy Walker uh rotates it even more rotates it even more John Ron through there rotates a heck of a lot right so it is not this huge necessity that we have a low rate of rotation it can be great for some folks but it can again it can like limit speed it can limit all these different items that we really need as as if we want to call ourselves golfing athletes like we want that stuff to feel good when we play agree okay so why don’t we start with like that into the Spectrum so kind of the the tiger end of the spectrum exactly and by the way even though we’re talking about this point in space Yep this is not necessarily going to be an active thought to get there to put the club there sure it’s going to happen as a result of other forces passively because of another type of an idea so if you just swing one up to like P5 is like all the way into P5 good this is about delivery fully loaded phase from right here to do this what we’ll want and by the way from here with every single player we’ll have some amount of of vertical from the the center mass of the chest and the center of mass of the pelvis okay and what that’s going to allow for is this lead arm to lower and as it’s lowering now all the forces are going down you’d have to really go up and away to create that space there you go and now the flash out is this mhm okay so notice when you when you do that TJ if you can do that again for us so this lowers your unwinding and and rotating this there you go so if TJ from over here lowers this arm and lets it continue to go eventually the humoris is rotating like right here in the shoulder socket it is rotating this bone is going this way not because he’s actively trying to make it like externally rotate but it will externally rotate for every single player on earth to some degree now how early it happens because of shoulder flexion is what we’re talking about okay so for that type of player um you’d have this lowering sh flexion action and then that external rotation would happen very very early for that type of player earlier exactly and then maybe I’m getting ahead of myself but if we’re bouncing to other end of the spectrum we call it like maybe hland yep right then he’s got a little bit more internal for this early portion and then that’ll go later yes and a lot of that is is based on the center mass of the pelvis and where it’s moving so like with Rory heavier face rotation kind of a guy like with driver you’ll see Rory through the strike look like that like it really goes so the center of mass of his pelvis like is as he gets into P5 or so let’s take Rory vers havin at P5 cuz two different releasers from right here Rory will rotate in the center of mass of the pelvis will be further forward through the strike to unload this and so as he’s rotating meaning his pivot point is further CL more bias into the lead side not all the way here but more like lead HIIT bias for Pivot Point meaning he’s rotating in this phase this can lower and as it lowers the force that we get is this external rotation of the of the upper arm as he does that and that’ll rotate the face a little bit more aggressively okay and so that type of a release in the hands will be more into a radial versus owner release so think of a hammer right load the hammer unload the hammer so as I kind of lower this club down with shoulder flexion or this would be extension yep um then the release is more of this idea and you want and and the player won’t even have to feel this it just happens it just happens but we’ll have two main like active thoughts there for that type of a player once I’m in five yep okay the the pivot point will be further lead hit bias right so as he’s as he’s unwinding as TJ’s unwinding he’s rotating here and the other active thought is this lead arm will lower and so you’ll you’ll have these like guys that talk about um like lowering the arms heavily like if you if you watch a bunch of Justin roses um he’s talking about lowering y yep he’s talking about lowering here and then as he’s rotating he’s in here so Justin Rose Rory both have very similar tops of Swing look there’s not a whole lot of bow in this lead wrist in fact with Rory quite a bit of extension yeah interesting compared to other players sure right like havland who has a heck of a lot more bow yep exactly so that’s another portion portion of the matchup for release is what type of player are you at the top also how do you grip it like moreaa weaker grip yep Bose it heavier at the top Rory stronger grip yep more radial at the top with the with the load in the hands in the wrists interesting so all this goes into release release patterns it’s like all the set some of the setup in the arms and the hand and how we’re holding the golf club all the way into the load M right and then how how the player pivots is really key to this too because if I pivot more like Rory where I’m up in here the tendency is going to be now I’m going to lower this and as I lower it and continue to rotate then that flashes out so te if you could let’s set up uh next to it here and show us a couple like this needs to be done for release like for this to passively release we need enough energy in it for it to actually go okay so go to five for us and again the two active thoughts here are going to be lead hip pivot and Lead arm lower and just bust it through here there you go do that again roughly to five okay and go good now are you trying to rotate the arms at all or rotate the club face no no I’m not yeah so that happens because there is a rotational aspect that we’re talking about in the pelvis okay and we’re more lead HIIT bias there okay and go ahead and do that again from face on now if you could teach so we’ll go to five and then the same map good do that again good now as the athlete do you feel the club releasing in a certain way like does it feel like it ro ro like I do feel it rotating more um CU I have a pretty good sense and awareness of of what that’s doing um but yeah I do feel it rotating a little bit more but it’s not like I’m sitting here trying to yes to like throw it that way exactly and so I think it would be really important like right now to discuss this and we can kind of Bounce this idea back and forth a stable release in our minds in our Maps is a player whose structure of the arms meaning the humorous bones okay are not going over one another this is like not very stable like now we’re now we’re act yeah exactly so that would be un exactly the other unstable release would be if I go here way too much see I’m I’m actively moving these like that’s not stable either like does the golf club look like it’s anywhere near neutral yeah and either to kick anyway exactly it’s going to go anyway because I got to recover it late like you got we got issues now sure right and if you watch like our Instagram or you know any of like the shorts that we put up of some of our players our job as coaches is to push the intention for certain movers into one of those types of feels but what truly happens is neither one of those we want neutral yeah yeah yeah so stable simply means that the arm structure throughout the course of the Swing we’re not really we’re we’re not messing with that yeah whether the arms lower here and I’m and I’m a lead hip bias pivot pivot kind of a player the arms are still out in front of me here and we see a ton of players like falo through history is look just like this right and then like the other type of a hit which we’ll get into here is more of a lower and this Abad hit but the arm structure still is nice and sound we haven’t messed a whole lot of with that right what we’re talking about more is like the rotation that we see in the hands so this pronation and superation type of an act but I’m still not messing with the upper arms totally no no this is fine uhhuh from turning with it still have the golf club structured sure that’s stable so rate of rotation is simply reading the rotation of the club face and how active it is Rory heck of a lot higher than havin than havin yeah but you argue with me who’s the better ball Striker that’s a hard one yeah that’s a beer conversation right Roy’s better no hain’s better like that that’s why that’s why spectrums is so important because these guys arguably would be our bookends right havin super low RAR rotation macroy a little higher but both insanely good ball Strikers because the by our definition of stable at this point they both fit that criteria exactly exactly their arms aren’t doing anything like whack and crazy especially through the hit yeah right yeah yeah exactly so let’s hit a couple balls that way te if you could and you don’t have to stop at five we’ll just keep it going but we’ve got our two active thoughts which is more lead hip bias pivot okay and then the the lead arm is simply lowering when you’re doing that you’ll let the golf club just go feel it rotate more yeah that one kicked a bit for sure mhm yep by the way lead hip is not that I’m taking this lead hip and just driving it towards the target yeah it simply means that the Pivot Point would be in here and so I’m rotating okay yeah I think I was kind of doing that there a little bit oh do you feel that in yours okay good there you go excellent excellent so there’s still rotation in a lead hit pivot right it’s not not that I just sway this over here and never rotate cuz if I just keep moving this lateral there’s no rotation a pivot point means that there’s something rotating around that point in space and what we’re doing we’re going to one extreme which is a lead hip type type pivot which we see some of that right one more of those yeah one more of those so probably what you’ll feel and again it’s not like you’re trying to flash the club but that passively happens because of an active idea and what is interesting though like um I don’t I don’t feel it like kick right here uhhuh it actually still feels relatively stable to hear and then it kicks late yep and so like and again personal to the player what they actually sense like if we put a a a you know a sense like we put hack motion y on on your hands we we would see that happen right at probably a higher rate through the hit but you’ll sense it at different times based on each individual player which would be really cool for players to kind of mess with which is great okay so now we’ll uh we’ll go to havin Spectrum okay which we we talk a lot about havin okay for a lot of different reasons blah blah blah okay so let’s go to five again all right and here here we go again with what’s actually going to happen we’re going to shove the Pivot Point back in here so this lead hip is going to go towards the screen and then away from the target and this lead arm this elbow try to take and just move it towards my hand there’s the ab hit this is abduction this lead humorous came off of T TJ’s PEC and moved in this space so he’s not looking to lower the golf club down to find the bottom out there because if he’s if he’s up here and he pivots here right now I’m going to go this way to control the bottom out okay and control the release if I’m up here and then this is the Pivot Point I’m moving I’m I’m in essence I’m moving my Center amass my pelvis forward so I can lower this to control the bottom out okay two different releases there lead hit pivot is going to be an arm lowering action and Trail hit pivot is going to be a level hit action yes exactly exactly so let’s start with that and then we’ll get into the passive release which is in the hands okay so go to five again for us and we’ll do a p well actually yeah you can hit this one okay just go to five now we’re going Trail hip pivot and Lead arm goes across there you go good yeah way more stable too yeah yeah yeah yeah interesting right so and when definition of stable right there you go the face was was rotating less yes so both are stable yeah exactly that TJ’s just inferring to the rate of rotation in the club face he’ll feel it like feel it like almost never rotate you know like meaning that the face isn’t tumbling this way totally yep okay um hit us another one like that but one one constant motion okay into to five Trail hit pivot and Lead arm across level hit different and like when you’re watching this just to the naked eye you’ll see the differences m in both of those different patterns and again the thing is like notice we don’t either is great like again we got tiger he was kind of good okay yeah and obviously like there’s more to to like his greatness I mean great putter great mind great short game right but we would also put tiger in a great ball striking C category because stats talk about it unequally yeah he was number one in uh I think Strokes gained approach or irons one of those categories for a number of years something that wasn’t matched until um Scotty Sheffer of this past year who also has some of that going on absolutely but then throughout the course of history we got Lee trino we got Y and we got havin who I mean that guy hits it unbelievably well Meo and like all these guys like anybody that plays on tour neeman’s on a heater neeman’s on a heater I mean shoot shooting 59s and 60s is pretty darn good all right right so like you see these different release patterns so like who in the heck is to say that one is better than another M like again it’s a bar conversation you’re sitting there arguing with your buddy over preferences at this point yep okay okay so who I think it’ be good to just explain like what type of a player yeah each one of these like you can f fill these buckets with different types of players so um players that are searching for distance okay okay would be lead hip pivot and arm lower guys interesting if you watch every single long drive athlete they are all that type of a player they extend earlier the club face the radar rotation is nuts and they they have the ability to get into these crazy swing speeds because of that right like like if I’m going to um really lower the arms right I can also meet that with a vertical force and exactly there’s a lot of power in that exactly and talking with K RS who’s our strength and conditioning coordinator for for our Academy the first thing he does with our Junior players is just teaches them how to jump yep so that’s vertical Force how to lower how to go up which is funny because we think a golf is being just rotation turn more kind of ideas right well yeah you’re going to turn and you don’t need a heck of a lot of it like really most player it’s very easy to turn 90° like the shoulder axis 90° but a spiral right has like rotation but it also travels upward it’s in a vertical Direction in a vertical Direction exactly exactly so it those types of players could be potentially Junior athletes because what we’re what we’re talking about is like if we want to stabilize well if we want to lower the rate of rotation the club face then what we can do is just shove the Pivot Point back a little bit that’s completely fine we can do that you know and and we can shove it to a lot of different points in space like the the the place that’s no good is this lateral pelvic sway like if I’m here into five and then I just shove my pelvis towards the target this doesn’t look good all of a sudden no doesn’t at the same time if I’m in 5 okay and I shove my pelvis this way all of a sudden this doesn’t look okay okay you can overcook either way yeah so we need some amount of of rotation in the pelvis and that really this is a different conversation but that’s really because of the upper spiral line what we see the ribs doing to influence that but you’ll feel okay I can have this release I can have that release those are both rotary the pelvis is is Rotary there it’s not going side to side yes exactly see exactly okay okay so um more distance more power you’re looking for probably more of a lead hip release yep where you can um generate a little bit more vertical force and let the face flash because that also increases CL speed a little bit as well exactly exactly if you’re also a player that needs like every bit of distance that you can possibly muster so we’re going to have a ball that needs to launch a little bit higher for you okay and the tendency is going to be that it’s going to Tumble on itself this way which typically lowers the amount of spin for players so you’re going to have a higher launch lower spin ball that ball that’s a cannonball that’s nukes yep that’s nukes that’s kind ofum because we got the face rotating and we’re going vertical so I can unlo this earlier in the hands fair so now there’s the shaft M so I get this higher launch so there’s our Dynamic Loft okay okay players on the other end of spectrum who may be um kind of bomb it hit it hit it a decent ways but can’t keep the ball in the golf course there you go yep I need more Precision so I want to lower the rate of rotation um typically like those types of players like if we’re playing golf let’s say we’re hitting an approach shot if I have a higher ball speed the last thing that I really wanted to do is like I I don’t want to lose control of it left because that that typically means long so I don’t want to chip or putt downhill right and if I’m long and left now if I’m a if I’m a right-handed player long left with that excessive draw and I’ve got a downhill left to right chip downhill left or right putt it’s out of control this way sure not saying that you can’t draw it with a low rate of rot Club face M but it’s going to limit how much it tumbles so if you miss it’s a little bit short and it’s a little bit right okay that’s an uphill right to left putt uphill right to left chip interesting right so just the playability of it from a release perspective is is that so these these folks that don’t have much Club speed if it’s really tumbling and the ball is like this higher draw you’re still never going to lose control of it like crazy long left cuz the ball’s not in the air long enough to do it right okay so juniors typically typically lower weight athletes as well will see this okay and that that typically is like a shorter player as well um Rory um players on the LPGA Tour compared to the PGA Tour yeah you’ll see way more lead hit pivots on the LPG and and Junior athletes okay so it just depends on what your preferences and I get some of you are playing and and looking at this more from an aesthetic purpose you want to look a certain way I get that like we all have that I mean I look at my damn golf swing and I go man I’m still freaking like doing BS where I don’t want to do BS so it’s this I think is an important talk because we we just need the right diagnosis that’s healthy yeah okay and again you shove yourself out into these unhealthy patterns typically unhealthy patterns is we’ll see lateral pelvic movement as the main unhealthy pattern because that leads to like excessive extent and sometimes some excessive side Bend because of that like in spots that we don’t want to see it side Bend rotation laterals in the appropriate spots are still okay but it’s just to a certain degree so like that’s a different conversation in its own right but we’re talking just little differences in pivot Points that then leak into differences in the direction of the arms that then Rel it leads into release and how the forms and what we see the golf club doing and where it flashes cool okay kind of a deep dive there’s probably going to be some some questions on this just your own personal preferences um which you know I think each one of us have our own preferences for our own game and what we’re looking to to create but as well as you know the students that we’re fortunate enough to coach um but those preferences come from an individual player by player perspective right it’s not shove everybody in One freaking pot because that has never worked and it’s not going to work for you history yeah yeah um and if I just can add one thing in here I mean like in these videos we are doing our absolute best to give you like this is a lot of information yeah um as much information as you can possibly have to sort of make an informed decision on what your release should be right but I think there’s still going to be a lot of people that watch this and go I still don’t know like I’m still guessing like they’re going to they’re going to go to the range and they’re going to try Trail hip and they’re going to try lead hip and they may just yeah have struggle with that right so exactly come see us come see us like we do virtual stuff um TJ has a wonderful program coming up a a new one coming up that’s um uh the swing Improvement series and then on top of that both Alex’s and Arizona are are developing a scoring Improvement series now that most of us are heading into the summer months for for us American players or Northern Hemisphere hemisphere players um so we’re here to help again it’s like we’re especially on our YouTube like TJ just said a lot of this is just education and from that information then you can start to better diagnose your own game but we get it I mean it’s a hard Fring game and the golf swing can be extremely complex especially when you’re trying to like understand it at a higher level MH and then you know as you understand it better and you understand your own game it becomes simple again so for it to become simple again you need the right diagnosis that’s what we’re trying to do on this channel and what we do on a daily basis with again the students that we’re fortunate enough to coach so thanks so much for us we love you to death keep us posted on your own games ask any questions that you have we’ll see you next time