Scottie Scheffler poised to win golf’s Grand Slam & why PGA & LIV need to get on same page | Go Low

John Middlekauff explains why he feels that at 40-1 odds, now on DraftKings, that Scottie Scheffler is worth spreading some money on to win golf’s Grand Slam this season. John also explains why the PGA and LIV need to get on the same page to help fix golf’s equity and revenue issues as the game has become less popular on TV and why people have become less and less interested in the pro game.

0:00 // Intro
3:14 // Scottie Scheffler could win the Grand Slam this season
12:55 // Golf is in trouble, PGA & LIV need to get on the same page

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what is going on everybody we took a
little couple week Hiatus postmasters
take a deep breath get ready for the
draft but we’re in major season now
obviously the Masters happen shefford
won it we’re going to dive into him
right away because he’s 40 to one to win
the Grand
Slam and it’s actually kind of tasty so
uh I want to dive into Scotty Sheffer
and and just why guys like him make
Sports fun whenever you have a guy
separated from the pack uh there was
some news in terms of the new
restructuring of the PGA Tour how
they’re going to use equity with some of
their players the impact it’s going to
have on Liv that just had a big event in
Australia uh and Liv situation right now
you know it’s just a lot of moving Parts
here but have some thoughts on
everything that’s going on with those
two tours uh and we had team golf last
weekend I didn’t watch much except the
last couple holes because Ro
and Shane Lowry were in the mix but have
some just initial takeaways when it
comes from Team golf pandem golf uh not
quite sure it works and it’s not I’m not
quite sure that’s what we want as the
consumer and then this weekend the CJ
cup which kind of is going to lead right
in next week elevated event then the PJ
Championship so we’re kind of off and
running here uh when it comes to the
golf season if you guys want to get
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little guy and we weren’t ever good
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could like compete with USC Texas
whoever in the SEC like they were a
national championship Contender now they
never got that opportunity but I truly
believe that to my
core but I’ve changed my thinking over
time and listen I’m very grateful to
have gone to school CP and Fresno State
two programs that are not the University
of Texas or Michigan or Ohio State when
it comes to Athletics that’s for sure
and now like as a fan I like watching
the big dogs and I haven’t watched much
of the NBA Playoffs I’ve watched every
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Lakers Nuggets and it was fantastic one
of the best five game series I’ve ever
seen mainly because I love seeing the
Lakers lose and I knew they would but
joic
is clearly established himself is not
only the best player currently in the
world but one of the best players we’ve
ever seen and right now he’s about to
win his third MVP in like four years and
unless someone on his team gets injured
including himself they’re going to win
the NBA championship like he’s going
into hollowed charact uh territory and I
like watching guys separate from the
pack I like watching the best teams and
the best players what Patrick Mahomes
just did is insanity win his third Super
Bowl in five years he’s established as
not just the best quarterback in the NFL
but one of the best players we’ve ever
seen and he’s like in the peak of his
powers not even 30 yet so like how far
can he go my favorite athlete by I mean
there’s two of them but as a kid like
anyone born in the mid 80s Michael
Jordan was spectacular and then coming
into your own as a sports fan getting to
live through Tiger Woods is something
we’ll probably never see again and
something I’ve very very glad that I I
got to watch and like really be able to
defend it because I’ve always often said
like if you’re in a bar arguing with
someone if you didn’t grow up or were of
age to watch that
player it’s a hard argument YouTube does
not do justice to when you’re watching a
guy live especially as you get older
like I can speak pretty confidently
about pton Manning and Tom Brady about
Steph Curry about Tiger Woods and Phil
Mickelson Rory whoever I mean the
players that I’ve watched It’s hard for
me beside like yeah I know Magic Johnson
and Larry Bird all time greats but to
like legitimately get into an argument
like if we’re getting to an argument
about Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer
even like Greg Norman and Nick falo like
I I don’t feel as strong in my argument
I can watch all the YouTubes and 30 for
30s and everything possible on the
internet it is not the same so watching
Scotty Sheffer doing what he’s currently
doing is freaking awesome now the sad
part is is the in turmoil the tourist
split and television ratings are down
despite golf in terms of the amateur
World never being more popular more
people are playing golf in 2024 than
ever before the access is much easier
there are a ton of courses uh the public
courses are absolutely packed the
waiting list at country clubs all over
the country is a mile long and golf’s
very very popular it’s a unique sport
right I played High School football have
not played a down since most people that
play high school football never play in
college yet we become football fans the
rest of our life but I’m never gonna
throw a pass at Lambo field I I’m never
gonna run for a yard in hin field right
where the Pittsburgh Steelers play it’s
like I’ll never shoot Baskets at MSG but
I can play golf at the overwhelming
majority of courses that pros play and
if you’re lucky enough to run in the in
the right circles you might even get
access to some of the sweet courses they
play that are country clubs it’s not
possible like if you’re a tennis player
you’re not playing Wimbleton that that’s
what makes golf pretty special and tiger
really brought that to light he made it
cool I don’t know if Scotty sheffler is
that he he’s not even close to the level
of Superstar The Tiger was but he is a
special player in the peak of his powers
and after he won the Masters pretty
easily I thought the most impressive of
accomplishment he’s had in his career
and he’s won the master twice was
winning the next week he literally went
home his wife was pregnant when he gets
home to Texas she’s asleep he goes out
with the boys 48 hours later he flies
back to you know the RBC at like Tuesday
night start slow on Thursday and then
you look up on Sunday he’s kicking the
[ __ ] out of everybody and I looked on
Draft Kings today right now they have a
special for him to win the Grand Slam
he’s 40 to one now I I said after the
Masters the only thing like I think is
over under right now on Majors is two
and a half that that’s what I would put
it at because I think between Pinehurst
and the Open Championship he’s a lock to
win one of those too the only reason I’m
hesitant on the PJ championship in
Valhalla is because his wife any day
could have a baby and then the moment
when you first have a baby you don’t
sleep you’re sleeping in a terrible
chair bed never had one but seen
pictures uh been to the been to the room
after my friends and brothers have had
kids but it it is a it’s a life-changing
moment and a life-changing moment for
you personally especially in the short
term just with sleep and your routine is
going to be thrown off so who knows how
much practice he’s going to have before
the PGA and then I started thinking like
well he had no practice or probably
slept that much or did anything the
couple days leading into the RBC and he
basically won with his [ __ ] eyes
closed so why couldn’t he win a major
now obviously if his wife hasn’t gone
into labor and that’s a a story that to
me would have much more substance behind
it because she could actually have the
baby that’s a whole different
conversation but if the baby happens
before you know I don’t know if I’m off
him that much and if he were to win
Valhalla that 40 to1 to me probably goes
down to like 12 to1 immediately because
one I I think he’s winning Pinehurst I
mean it sets up perfectly for him and by
then he will have enough time to kind of
get his routine and just get some normal
sleep in order for the major push I
looked at last year and remember he
couldn’t putt last year no he wasn’t a
his putting was off he was an awful
putter he finished T10 at the Masters
which probably going to be an outlier
for his career because he’s going to win
that thing like five times and then the
next two majors the PGA in the US Open
at La Country Club he finished T2 in
third again could not putt the British
Open which has given him some trouble
though he’s only played in three he
finished
t23 and two years ago his best finish in
2021 was T8 I guess my overall point is
I don’t think it’s crazy at all to throw
a little money on him 40 to1 to win the
Grand Slam seems crazy right just
because of how difficult it is how much
pressure is on these
but for the first time since tiger
you’re like yeah this is
real this is very very possible now the
crazy thing is when tiger was in his
Heyday you know people loved to make fun
like it was just
plumbers and firemen is the type guys he
was now he played against some pretty
good players last time I checked like
Ernie El could play VJ Sy could play I
mean David Duval in the late 90s was
pretty damn good now the depth of talent
was nowhere near what it is now not even
close
but Scotty shown like he’s not even that
affected by it I don’t give a [ __ ] how
good all these guys are I’m dramatically
better I’m dramatically better now the
irony is the one guy that could take him
down is a guy that would be playing
potentially in a second major lvic who
is clearly a
special got a chance to be a
Transcendent Talent so I I just think
this 40 to1 number if you would have
told me before the year we’re just
moving forward anyone could ever win the
Grand Slam again I’d be like it’d be
shocking if a guy won two majors in a
year given the current crop of guys
playing in in these major championship
and the depth of just elite players I
mean it goes It goes 15 deep with just
High high-end players I don’t know he
might just be that much better than
everyone despite the baby situation the
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the crown is yours the PJ tour uh there
was a story that came out I think a
couple days ago that let’s let’s face it
the tourist in shames no if fans or
butts about it it’s it’s it’s
embarrassing the state of professional
golf it has nothing to do with us has to
do with Saudis buying all these guys Jay
Monahan being just pretty bad at his job
the players not being Hands-On enough
and then once Jay [ __ ] everything up
now they’re really handson and
ultimately they don’t care what we think
which is a problem because the sport
just like all these professional sports
are very
determined on how many people watch it’s
about television it’s about your TV
product and the ratings you do to be
able to sell it now the PJ tour sold
their rights a couple years ago for a
lot of money so that number is set like
the NBA ratings are down but it doesn’t
impact the players because it’s a fixed
number over a 10year period of time now
every time you renegotiate if it goes if
it were to ever go down it’d be a
problem but the PJ tour is looking at
another six sevene Runway of this
current deal the problem is one of their
Partners NBC is in financial shambles
they do not have the lead analyst which
would be like the CBS not knowing who is
going to be sitting next to Jim Nance
six weeks before the nflc that would
never happen it would be
inconceivable well Kevin kizner who
clearly should transition to T I love
kiss and I I hope he goes fulltime to TV
they’re not offering him any money he’s
like I’m not committed to this they
fired Paul ainger last year which time
to go Paul’s just wasn’t that good at
his job good player seems like a good
guy television not very good Jeff Ogie
who I see sometimes at the gym uh
haven’t had quite the balls to say
anything I don’t I don’t know the smooth
interaction like hey Jeff podcaster like
hey Jeff loved you when you’re going
toe-to-toe with T I gotta think of a
smooth interaction
uh he’s always doing squats you see he’s
got that long skinny body obviously i’
I’ve talked to a couple people that know
him so he’s great guy so I just need to
go up and talk to him but he’s another
guy that like they’re not offering any
money and financially they’re cutting
costs which impacts the product which
they clearly struggle on and the only
reason they own the US Open is because
Fox who paid a billion dollars for it
realized early like we’re not going to
be able to make any money we’re out so
they got it on like a 50% discount Fox
is paying for like 50% of it so NBC
didn’t even buy the US Open for a normal
rate they they got it on a discount and
they’re still going cheap well the PGA
Tour while dealing with this obviously
has Liv that has poached a lot of their
players and they can’t compete right if
Liv is gonna offer $60 million for
Terrell Hatton what the [ __ ] are you
gonna do let alone the hundreds of
millions of dollars they’re paying DJ
Kea Phil ROM you’re done they’re gone so
it was reported last week that Joe
Pampano I I might be screwing up his
name but he’s a really good like uh
Sports Business Insider he had this long
thing on LinkedIn which I’m trying to
get a little more active on
that the way their structure is going to
work now Equity is not the same as
giving you $100 million right so they’re
giving Tiger Woods $100 million in
equity these were the four names that I
read they just had specific numbers 50
million to Rory and 30 to JT and to
speed now you can’t the equity doesn’t
have any value on the open market tiger
couldn’t just cash out next year for
$100 million takes four years to vest
and then you can sell or cash out 50% of
it and ideally when you get equity in
something and listen since I’ve been in
the podcast World um I I only do things
that I have ownership in right it
doesn’t always mean upfront cash but big
picture to have equity ownership in
anything I found for myself incentivizes
me greatly I am much more inclined to do
a podcast every single day knowing that
I got skin in the game it’s [ __ ] mine
why wouldn’t I wouldn’t be the same if
you just paid me a fixed cost to have
the same type of juice look at live like
if you gave me a hundred million look at
DJs a great example they gave him a$ 150
million plus and he even admitted like
yeah I don’t practice much hard to blame
him it’s human nature most people are
not wired like tiger and Brady most
people even high level people are closer
to DJ yeah it’s like I’ve already made
hundreds of million dollars now I got
this money guaranteed I don’t need to
work as hard we’re all somewhat similar
in our wiring upstairs so when you give
the equity now it does incentivize these
guys even though they will never ever
make as much as they would have got
going to live but to give everything
they have to the product now the problem
is
tiger is somewhat of an outlier I would
even say Rory Jordan and speed are good
examples two guys around 30 years old
that have been prominent famous members
of the PGA Tour that the tour needs
because of their Fame Equity with us the
fans in terms of name recognition and
just their star
power is to do everything possible to
help out the sport and I do think
they’re trying but how do you not how do
you do something that you don’t even
know what to do like where would they
even begin to start and this’s the thing
I understand why the Arthur blanks and
the Steve cohens and all these guys with
money get involved because it’s an
opportunity and they’re so flushed with
cash like why not we put in a couple
hundred million dollars raise three
billion do see where it goes ideally it
turns into a 10 billion dollar operation
but there is a chance if they stay
splintered this equity
won’t amount to
much because right now and for the
foreseeable future they don’t have much
going and the only way it’s not about
walking talks on the on the course where
they put a Ear Pod into someone’s ear
and they talk for a hole that’s cool or
the Friday happy hours where you know a
famous player sits down with smiley and
chops it up for an hour that’s also cool
that’s not doing anything it’s not
moving the needle the only thing thing
that matters the only thing to make this
business and this Equity worthwhile for
everyone involved the players these
these rich people that are put fronting
the money is to get everyone back
playing together not four times a year
but like 15 and I think the challenge is
to get these live guys to come back like
what’s their incentive now the moment
some of them stop dropping out of the
majors because they don’t meet the
qualifications yeah they’re more
incentives to sign incentivized to sign
off but DJ won a major a couple years
ago and he’s into the Masters for life
like he’s in these Majors for a while
Rah won the US Open won the Masters last
year he doesn’t have to worry about that
brys and D Shambo same thing in the
majors for years to come so I think they
have a complicated problem on their hand
now the good thing
is live golf last week was fun I I just
saw highlights in Australia Australia is
a place that loves golf like Japan with
baseball it just it works if you put an
event there it’s going to be a party it
is going to pop on television but I
didn’t watch I would imagine most of you
didn’t watch you might have S seen some
highlights on YouTube but you didn’t
watch the event and that’s not going to
change like they’re not going to be able
to draw eyeballs now the one thing is
because of their money backed by Saudi I
don’t know if they truly care they just
want to take over the PGA Tour but
remember the PGA Tour pushed back after
they went on TV on whatever June 6 and
talked about the merger because those
guys want to control everything and when
you’re paying the money when you’re the
guy signing the check ultimately they’re
the boss so if they were going to get
the majority of the juice and fund all
the money they were going to have a lot
of say and clearly the PGA Tour has been
hesitant to let just basically a country
run the professional game and I think
that’s a problem that’s not necessarily
going to get fixed now a report this
week that Roy mroy who dropped off the
player board is back on the player board
maybe he thinks that he could help get
this thing over the line he’s buddies
with yoser I don’t know man I don’t feel
great in all these talks about equity
and payments none of us care none of it
matters it it just truly does not it’s
like what contract will LeBron James
sign next I don’t care he’s already
super rich like it I I don’t care if
it’s 150 million 130 none of it matters
where’s he going to play and that’s the
World of Golf right now where are they
going to play and that’s a problem for
Liv they announced today that they’re
their season ending tournament the
equivalent of like the Tour Championship
for the PJ tour they played at East Lake
which some people have problems with the
with the course I I think it’s
fine they’re going to uh bo Bowling
Brook which I had never heard of in
Chicago it is a course a lot of people
have been posting about on the internet
that you can play during the week for
$60 on the weekend it’s $85 of course me
and you would have no problem playing
sounds like probably a fun little track
in Chicago here’s the problem Chicago is
home to some of the best golf in America
hell Liv played last year at Rich
Harvest Farms which is one of the nicer
courses according to Golf Digest in the
state but they have all these other
courses like Butler National Madina
Olympia Fields these courses have hosted
major
championships but Liv has no access to
any of these courses none can you
imagine if I said that Greg Norman
announced that Liv’s final event will be
at Pebble Beach like damn might peek at
that a huge part of golf is the course
at the professional level it draws Us in
last year I remember how excited I was
to watch them play at La Country Club
it’s why austa is such a big deal it’s
why the Open Championship is so unique
the lyx golf they travel around all
these different courses in Scotland and
Ireland and the UK it’s cool it doesn’t
look like what we normally see and then
over the course of the the rotation you
kind of get familiar with some of them
especially St an Andrews no different
than the US Open you know they’re going
to play Pebble every once in a while you
know they’re going to play Olympic Club
they played Wingfoot I mean they played
Oakmont like they you kind of get in
this rotation if you follow the sport
like I live has no because none of the
public courses that are any good they’re
in business with the PJ tour Tory Pines
TPC uh Scottdale none of these people
are going to do obviously TPC Scottsdale
because owned by the PJ tour but Tory
Pine is a good example there’s not going
to do business with Liv and then Liv has
has no access to any of the country
clubs beside like if Trump wants to get
involved so the country clubs that might
draw like damn they’re playing this
weekend at pick the
course I’ll watch it’s just not going to
happen so I I I think Liv has a course
problem on top of just we’re not
watching but I do think that would help
domestically internationally I I see
what they’re doing they’re trying to
spread out it’s cool Australia is cool
once they go in some of these weird time
zones like it’s in the middle of the
night but I I understand it the problem
is they would love to have four or five
events here that are really big they
went to Las Vegas no one paid attention
partly it was during the Super Bowl but
I don’t know I I mean you can talk about
Equity you can talk about all these
payments until everyone gets on the same
page it’s not going to be worth it to
anyone when I first got in the podcast
business I got involved with kind of
this startup and one thing I was like
okay I’m going to fight for some equity
in the company and I got a
little company went under now the PJ
tour is not going to go under live
golf’s not going to go under but the
only way for Equity to matter is for the
company to succeed is for it to keep
going up so your Equity actually has
value and I don’t know I’m not very
bullish on the situation just like in
theory team golf last week the Zurich it
should be cool because you watch the
Ryder Cup or the President’s Cup and
it’s awesome the difference is
especially let you use the Ryder Cup
there is something special when you put
on your country’s
flag obviously the international team is
dudes from all different countries but
you know when we send a team either
across the pond or domestically that all
our 12 guys are going to be representing
America so yeah they they play you know
four ball they play you know alternate
shot whatever but it’s still like us
America it’s why when the World Cup
happens everyone gets excited for
American soccer even though we
consistently never do [ __ ] rightfully so
we’re not as good like I know the Lakers
played the Nuggets close they’re not as
good there’s a reason they have lost 12
of 13 games against those guys in the
playoffs they’re just not as good so
it’s understanding
but at least you’re like they got LeBron
and Anthony Davis and no different than
us even if we go across the pond and
lose at least we’re rolling out some
Heavy Hitters Kea Sheffer JT spe whoever
even those those guys were shitty but
you know what I mean I think wearing
your country flag is a big deal when you
just watch Team golf in a random
event I don’t I don’t really feel it
especially in the problem for the Zurich
is beside Rory and Shane Lowry which
Rory had never played the event and they
told a story on the broadcast I just
watched a little on Sunday that it all
kind of started when they had lunch or
something during the holidays during
like Christmas time they both live I
think in Jupiter Florida they’re
obviously boys from the riter cup and
maybe Shane maybe Roy is like I want to
do it I I don’t know exactly how it
happened but that’s not typically the
tandem you
see most of the groups when I looked at
the leaderboard I’m like I’ve never
heard of these people I have never heard
of these players or they’re like random
Fringe PJ tour players that’s a problem
but I think one thing with Pro Golf and
maybe it can get a little redundant I
don’t think it necessarily will if you
shorten up the season a little bit once
they get back together is watching three
or four guys coming down the stretch
trying to beat each other I think team
golf kind of works when you’re just
playing at your local club with three of
your boys and you’re like I’m paired
with Bill playing Jeff and Tyler and
we’re playing five bucks a hole and it’s
you don’t even play alternate shot maybe
you play best ball and U you do some
sort of whatever you do and it kind of
works but it’s it’s very loose when you
play a serious match that way I don’t
know if it works when you don’t have the
flag associated with the person because
that’s what draws us into the riter cup
not necessarily the style they play that
just be my take CU if you told me the
Ryder Cup they played individual matches
just match play every day instead of the
team events I don’t think it would phase
it at all I’m glad they do it the way
they did it or do it but let’s say they
cut instead of playing three or four
team matches and the individual at the
end they just had three of the five were
all individual match plays and you just
rotated I I think it would have the same
Vibe I I really do and I don’t know man
I I I know Liv has tried to force the
team element and I understand
because in high school I played golf and
football and at the time in like 2001
2002 2000 golf was nowhere is cool and
the amount of people that play doesn’t
even come close to today so I remember
feeling like kind of lonely like I I
didn’t want to just hit Balls by myself
I didn’t like it that much because in
football you’re so used to like okay I
got to go run gassers well I’m doing it
with like all my buddies or we got to
practice Double Days today you’re doing
it with everybody body in golf it’s like
well you better get ready for this
tournament you got to practice by
yourself three of the seven days beside
a couple days of practice where you
practice with other guys it’s a very
very lonely sport so I I don’t think
these guys rying on live when they say
you know I like the team element but
when you’re watching live or just paying
attention to it I never check the teams
where’s everyone I just look at the
individual leaderboard and I go whenever
they’re playing to live.com and check
the leaderboard individual leaderboard
like what’s DJ doing today where’s
Bryson how’s Cam Smith doing in
Australia I don’t care about the team
because that’s not the way the sport is
constructed there’s a reason doubles
tennis while it’s fun if you’re just an
amateur tennis player most of the
popular matches in my lifetime are
singles Pete SAS against Agassi feder
against jokovic Nadal against
Federer that’s what we enjoy watching
and I I just
I think that’s a problem for golf that
because I think Liv and the Saudis
really want to force this team element
and I just don’t think we’ll care and
it’s one of those things hey John don’t
pigeon hole the way you think about
something things change once upon a time
the NFL played 14 games now they’re
about to play 18 with multiple buys
things change but the setup of the sport
and the way you operate doesn’t change I
think whenever you try to do something
drastic fans aren’t dumb the season
tournament all the media told me was how
cool it was it meant nothing to the
majority of people ratings people didn’t
even watch the Lakers won cool even
they’d be the first to tell you we’
gladly trade the inseason tournament to
win some games in [ __ ] April against
the Nuggets because that’s what matters
winning events as an individual matter
winning Majors as an individual matter
when the Ryder Cup matters for
sure I kind of think that’s a one
so I think golf’s going to have to
figure that out because I do think
they’re going to try to shoehorn some of
this team stuff and I’m just not sure
any of us are going to care and I’m a
good example I’m 39 years old I’ve been
watching golf for 30 plus years I I love
it I think I’m gonna have a hard time
getting behind it I I really am it’s
gonna have a hard time like okay I gotta
sit down and watch this my first
question would be why that’s what I said
during the in inseason tournament why no
one can well something fun
for what like what is it the individual
like tournaments they have in soccer
have been well established for a long
time that that’s not a comparable
parallel to what we’re trying to do over
here and what we’re used to and what we
like all four making little changes if
you have to even if I don’t agree with
them the NFL does it all the time hip
drop tackle the way you can tackle the
quarterback and we all [ __ ] and
moan golf’s going to try to do some roll
back stuff I I in theory I get it don’t
think it’s needed but I I understand it
like that’s you’re not going to change
the sport the sport of professional golf
is 150 people trying to finish in the
top 10 and one guy’s going to win and
the next guy’s going to try to finish in
the top five and they’re all battling
over a purse of
money that’s the essence of it all not
like teams and this guy no it’s not not
the way it works and and I hope we don’t
change it because
I I paid attention because I thought it
was cool low and Rory of course those
guys won they’re the best two players
there most of the guys you couldn’t
point out of a lineup if I offered you a
million dollars so it’s going to be very
very interesting where they go and if
that’s a big sticking point w with the
potential finality of this merger I I
think that’s a mistake appreciate
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