In this explosive episode of #DrinkChamps, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with the one and only #StephenASmith. The outspoken #ESPN analyst dives into a wide range of topics, from the MJ vs LeBron debate and Colin Kaepernick’s NFL workout to the current political landscape and his thoughts on Trump and Biden. Stephen A. also shares his experiences interviewing athletes, his love for Beyoncé, and his journey in the sports media industry. This is an episode you don’t want to miss!
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noise now when we started this show we
wanted to give props to Legends to give
flowers to the people when they can
smell them
they drinks where they can inhale them
and they thoughts when they can think
them when I’m talking about this brother
here that we about to introduce I tell
you I watch this man religiously I can
hear him talk about anything he could
talk about pink yellow nails and I’ll
still be like yep I agree with him he is
a word
play officially anado a
sports offici anado and I don’t I’ve
always had to ask this question cuz I
don’t know how the hell he watches all
them goddamn games and comments on them
all that’s real some people Call Him a
Cowboy
hater and some people say he’s accurate
about the Cowboys and the Cowboys are
the haters he’s from my barel even
though when I Googled him it said he was
born in Brooklyn so I gotta ask that but
he he’s hollist
Queens one of the best if not the best
sports people
period I hate when hip hop use this
terms
goat but in this case it’s a
understatement he’s a man’s man and I I
was so excited I’ve been sweating all
day so in case you don’t know who I’m
talking about I’m talking about the one
only legendary impecable Sten
[ __ ] how y’all doing now what’s up
baby now look I couldn’t wait for this
oh I can’t wait
by the way I want you to pick my drink I
I got I’m going drink champagne in
between but either Japanese whiskey or
uh or vodka St the elite you want me to
Japanese so that’s something I always
wanted to ask you I you know wake up
every morning we see you but you you’re
you’re at the games y but then you still
know about the games that you’re not at
right how do you how do you do that
that’s like some superhero [ __ ] well I
don’t I don’t just you know do my job I
live it so what I mean by that is that
like if you walk into the basement of my
house and by the way I was born in the
Bronx raised in holl Queen since I was
one years old okay all right so just to
correct just get that out the way but
when I go on the basement if you see my
basement right I’ve got a movie theater
mhm I’ve got two television screens here
MH and then if you go to the side and
that’s really my man cave I got a bar a
TV over the bar right and I got six TVs
three on top of the other that I can
turn into one or I can turn into six
seven six different games at a time wow
so let’s say for example it’s Sunday
football if there’s seven football games
on in that man cave I got a game on each
TV the S the one on the wall over the
bar plus the seven you I can say it now
cuz I’m about I’m about to move in a
little while
but what I’m saying is it’s a minimum of
seven games that I can watch at one time
and so I’m doing that but when I say I
live it right okay we we talking Sports
so when I’m driving I’m on I’m listening
to Sports channel when I’m I’m watching
I’m watching the sports I’m watching the
sports channel when I am I’m reading I
wake up and I I the first thing that I
do you know in terms of my work when I
get up in the morning
I go to espn.com right Yahoo sports you
know I’m looking at all the competitors
and seeing what the story is because you
got to remember I have a journalistic
background I started from New York daily
news I went from near the Philadelphia
Inquirer and then after that I did cnnsi
while I was at the Philadelphia inquir
then Fox Sports and then ultimately C
ESPN this is all while I was doing
newspaper from the Philadelphia inquir
from 1994 to 2010 and so I have a
journalistic career that spans 30 years
and when you w up as a journalist you’re
thinking about what’s the story that
people that’s percolating with the
people today in my case now because of
Television podcasting radio Etc what are
the multitude of stories that are
percolating the day y’all just finished
talking about Drake Kendrick you know
and J Cole and all of them right why you
talk about them because they made the
news what you did that day we have to do
as journalist every day so I’m I’m
trained auta that’s right and I’m TR but
I’m just talking about the story line
what are people talking about you
literally are supposed to wake up every
day thinking about what’s percolating
and that’s how I approach every single
day so let me ask you right by the way
let’s that’s medication so let me ask
you coming from the inner city we had
sports like um
football uh uh stickball we used to play
handball all that got all that [ __ ] you
say
that’s that’s it with the sisters and
all of that stuff when they playing hop
Scot H you tried to play that just
double dud you tried to play it just cuz
you want to be around yeah so so how is
it us that’s that’s the that’s the
sports that we know that the streets
come from right but then you got to
cover golf right you got to cover soccer
which I’m finally I’m finally coming
around the like soccer I’m finally com
to around cuz I like Christian Ronaldo’s
watch collection and Messi’s watch
collection so I figured that’s what
brought you on that’s not the that’s not
yeah right but that’s not like the
sports that we know like and then later
on in life M you got all these people
playing golf right but then then then a
lot of them equated to being rich like
like this is a rich sport right how do
you how do you how do you cover that
with the
same emotions and the same you don’t
interest you you don’t really um wow see
here’s what
happens with with
basketball I’m a
specialist cuz I’m an Insider right it’s
not that I know more even though I kind
of do it’s not really about you knowing
more basketball than other people cuz
you never know more than the players you
never know more than the coaches you
never know more than them but it’s about
being so connected to the sport because
you’ve covered it intimately that most
things you read about right I already
knew about okay I didn’t say anything
about okay I picked up the phone and the
sources directly involved in those
stories and you got inside Intel so when
I say so when I say I’m a specialist in
basketball I’m telling you like you know
you can see a controversy with a player
and I ain’t say a word but I know
everything about it right you see what
I’m saying and that that that most folks
would know just like y’all with the
hip-hop industry you know [ __ ] that a
lot of people would you know they got to
you you got to read a whole bunch of
magazines and hear people talking about
it and all of this other stuff but you
already know that’s me on basketball the
other sports until the last few years
you’re just being a reporter and what I
mean by that is you’re recognizing what
the story is like I didn’t have to cover
golf we have golf writers to cover TIG
and stuff like that right but when his
ass got in trouble and a wife attacked
him in Orlando and he was ending up with
the police blotters no no no no no
that’s the story so all of a sudden it’s
the story and as a journalist you’re
trained to pursue the story so can find
out about the story without having to be
an Insider on the sport of golf right
you see what I’m saying so that’s what
you’re doing with most sports you’re
covering it you know you at the Press
you’re in the Press Box you get access
into the locker room you go you cover a
game etc etc the difference between that
and basketball you know alen Iverson and
Larry Brown getting into it well y’all
reading about it right right I’m the one
they talk to you know you know so some
something happened with Shar and Kobe
and you know y’all read about it weeks
later but you know it was Kobe that that
that mother you know he going off and
[ __ ] you know what I’m saying on the
phone weeks earlier sha hell with them
done with them etc etc you get access
that most folks don’t get and that’s
what makes you a specialist at that
particular sport because you have Intel
and inside info that most people don’t
have now with that being said with the
inside info I seen you the other day yep
you br about Michael Jordan sir and you
said that Michael Jordan TT you and said
that uh Magic Johnson was one of the
greatest guards of all time cuz I think
you said someone else I didn’t say he I
didn’t say he text me I said he called
me he okay okay listen [ __ ] I’m
tired of you not listening to me you
better listen to me you what I said you
understand what the hell you talking
about differentation and I’m like come
on man you know what I’m saying look
it’s kind of hard to argue with the goat
you know what I’m saying cuz he would
know but we do we do argue I want to ask
you this that a flex how do you know
yeah super fle I’m even go further to to
more reflex how do you know which
conversations to to to make public and
which conversation you got to say damn
like you said y’all are lot they allow
me to okay don’t do they say that this
off the Record off the they say off the
Record it’s off the Record okay they say
it’s on the record it’s on the record or
if they don’t tell you you’re able to
defer to their previous course like if
I’ve seen you say something on the
subject publicly already then it’s okay
for me to say it because you’ve already
spoke on it publicly and you’re just
echoing no sentiments to me directly if
the sentiments that you made to me that
you didn’t make to anybody that’s not a
trust that you violate that’s the code
of the streets you know you know where
we come from and so you don’t you just
don’t do that you don’t you don’t do
something like that and a lot of times
when you got cats and they being Ultra
sensitive or whatever I have no patience
for it because my attitude is okay if
you say it’s off the Record it’s off the
Record you know that trust ain’t going
to be violated so if you know that’s not
going to be violated and we just talk
and be real and authentic with it and if
you and if you if if you don’t if you
want to say something publicly that’s
cool then own it and be cool with it as
long as I quote you accurately and I put
it in this proper context and I didn’t
violate your trust what are you bitching
about you got an opinion I got opinion
probably laced with more facts and we’ll
go from
there and I’m not going to worry about
I’m not going to worry about feelings on
that level because again it’s not
personal you know what I’m saying when
you when you I don’t care who you are
and it’s not about fear it’s not about
embarrassment it’s not about anything
it’s a Cod where there’s certain things
that you just supposed to know right you
don’t reveal right you don’t get
personal right but
professionally it’s all it’s all Open
Season especially information stop on a
court you shoot two for 20 don’t [ __ ]
to me you shot two for 20 in front of
everybody you do it in your backyard you
did it in front of everybody everybody
saw it so that particular night you
stuck up the join on it you don’t get
mad because somebody did their job and
they highlighted this was not a good
night for you you can’t get mad at that
but you got some of these cats who will
because of the age that we’re living in
and it’s unfortunate and Aver God but it
is what it is like
um I had to speak to DJ Envy one time
cuz DJ Envy was was was was going back
and forth with somebody um and I had to
kind of like let them know like your
voice is powerful it was playing around
but they wasn’t playing around your
voice I think your voice is powerful
because when you do show like a
breakfast club y it um it comes on in
other markets at different times so if
you did somebody at 8:00 yeah you might
had to see him again at 10:00 see him
again at 12:00 right have it has has has
it ever been like that for you because
if you like you said you you you you
critique on the a game and some of these
people are your connects well first of
all let’s understand that about the
connect mhm you cultivate relationships
with people here’s how I cultivate
relationship mhm this is who the hell I
am mhm off top let’s get that out the
way this is my job your personal life
right is your business right it is your
story to tell right don’t end up in the
police blots now that’s a matter of
public information you say privately
right what’s going on in your life is
your business right your professional
career is there for me to Chronicle
right I’m going to call it like I see it
now I’m going to come to you now if I
got access to you like you know you’ll
see me and there’s certain people that
I’m straight and I can be hardcore with
and then there’s certain people you look
at me and say damn I expected Stephen A
to go harder they’re not realizing it’s
not because of friendship it’s because
you stood there and talked to me and
gave me your perspective if this if the
drink Champs create headlines and it’s
for a negative reason right if I know
you mhm yeah what happened cuz you have
the access so so you’re giving me
perspective I’ve heard the perspective
from you and at that time there’s some
things you might say to me is cool to
tell and then you might give me even
more inle say don’t go there with that
cuz I can’t do that cuz if you do that
that’s G to burn somebody and I don’t
need that information isn’t that the
better way to go is to tell you isn’t
that the better way and and some and
most of them usually do I’m simply
making the point that if I have a
relationship with you and you talk to me
I have a professional obligation before
we even get to the human part us knowing
one another communicating with one
another you talking to me before we even
get to that I have a professional
obligation to make sure that I honor
what the conversation is meaning if you
tell me it’s off the Record it’s off the
Record if you if you if you’ve given me
Intel and you say this is the context
I’m coming from that’s cool you’ll see
me on TV and plenty of times I’ll tell
somebody I disagree with them but I’ll
stop and say let me tell you where they
are coming from because what I owe to
you is to make sure that I reject and
disseminate the information to go to the
masses in the context that you want it
right whether I agree or disagree right
now I always tell them I ain’t under no
obligation to agree with your ass now
you understand that I mean I might agree
with you I might not agree with you but
before I do anything I’m going make sure
that I’m fair and I’m going make sure
that I project the information in a
fashion that you gave it to me if you
want to be one of those cats that’s
inaccessible you want to hate on me you
want to avoid me that’s at your own damn
Peril that ain’t my problem because
here’s the thing about me please
understand this I’ve kept my number the
same for 20 years my number my phone
number has been the same for 20 years I
haven’t changed it for one reason and
one reason only I want no excuses about
you couldn’t reach me impossible
impossible too many people know me for
you to tell me you couldn’t reach me but
you do have some people who believe they
so big that they Untouchable and I don’t
know why people would think that way
because in this industry MH I can touch
you right any damn time I want right and
it’s just that simple and I’m going to
be as fair and as Humane and as
authentic as I can possibly be but
please trust I’mma do my damn job we
don’t have to have Christmas
Thanksgiving dinner together we don’t
have to exchange Christmas gifts I’mma
do my job right because I answer to the
public
I don’t answer to the people I cover so
long as I’m Fair as Fair minded as I can
possibly be and I and I
contextualize this stuff in a fashion
that is accurate that is what I owe
folks I don’t owe them more than that
but that that goes you that goes without
saying but I feel like you said the
landscape is different now people might
need you to explain those rules they
don’t deserve it necessarily but it
seems like the landscape is and I would
say to you that you’re putting it in a
very very nice way right some people
just soft as hell mentally we going to
call it like it is there’s a generation
out here that’s soft as hell mentally
and you know you got a lot of people and
they’ll be like man you know some people
you know you cool with some people but
some people can’t stand your ass and I’m
like who the hell told you I could stand
them I don’t like the asses either some
of them not most not all it’s a lot of
cats and professional Listen First Take
on ESPN has been number one for 12 years
Dam
right every week every week every month
every year 12 years in counting you know
what I’d like people to do how many
athletes you see coming on there how
many former athletes you see got a job
on there how many cats you see being
given shine who you think they come to
I’m the executive producer first take
you ain’t coming on without my
permission right I’m the one that puts
them on now I’m blessed and fortunate
enough to have accomplished what I have
accomplished in my career at ESPN to be
able to have that kind of T that kind of
power and knock on wood that’s today it
could be going tomorrow I don’t I don’t
trust Corporate America anything can
happen but what I’m saying is I have I
have that now and so when you look at it
from that perspective it’s like wait a
minute you’re letting cats know you want
you want to talk you want your
perspective heard you you you want to
make sure that you going to have viewers
listening etc etc the platform is here
available to you you got a lot of cats
don’t want that because they got their
own platforms they they doing you a
favor by coming by not recognize you was
number one before they arrive you going
to be number one when they g ain’t doing
all that they think about they they’re
thinking about what you have to gain or
more importantly what they may have to
lose by being in an environment is
unedited and it’s live right ain’t no
tape delay yeah ain’t no ain’t no live
to tape and Aaron later oh no no no bro
when we on 10:00 it’s 10:00 oh wow I
didn’t know that it’s live it’s live it
ain’t you understand say so when you
come on live and that’s what I tell them
it’s the live platform you can go on
Sports Center you can do an interview
for three or 4 minutes they could come
and interview you and they can air three
or four minutes you come on first take
if I tell you you coming on for 15
minutes it’s 15 minutes I tell you it’s
13 minutes and 15 seconds it’s 13
minutes and 15 seconds you know so you
have that and if you want to pass up on
that because you don’t trust or you
think you too big or you thinking that
you’re influenced because of your reach
your followers and all of that stuff is
going to stop me from doing what I do
well good luck with that good luck with
that recently we had people come on here
right you know have a good time say
something they don’t want don’t want to
say and ask for us to edit it right and
us being good people we a c Chase right
but then these artists will ask us to
edit and then go on another platform and
say what they told her that that should
piss you off that [ __ ] pisses me off you
know what you should do I be wanting to
blow it up but you what you should do
you should be like this I’m want to blow
it up right
now I will tell you this I want to hear
his let me tell you let
me listen eight years congratulations
congratulations congratulations well
deserved but let me get as a person
that’s been in media for 30 years let me
give you a piece of advice
please so you want me to cut this out
you don’t want me to add this
you know I better not see you saying
this [ __ ] nowhere else right I didn’t
say that you know that right right cuz
if I see it anywhere else I’mma a it do
you understand me so long as you know I
ain’t got no problems cutting this out
right especially if it’s something that
you think’s going to compromise you
going to hurt your brain I ain’t trying
to hurt you you understand
M but I better not see it somewhere else
cuz if I see it somewhere else oh that
just means you want to give to somebody
else other than me but I got it already
I’ll that [ __ ] tomorrow right you
understand what I’m saying and put the
date when you said it so everybody know
I had it first don’t play that game
don’t play that game if you say you want
it out keep it out because listen
there’s certain things you know a code
of the industry it’s like you don’t give
somebody else editorial power I I I’ve
had politicians I’ve had you know big
time Executives I’ve had various others
wanting to sit down and do interviews
with me and I’d cancel the interview
because they wanted editorial control
you’re not getting editorial control of
my content don’t come on and give me the
content I came on here today I told
y’all y’all could ask me anything y’all
want that don’t mean I’m going to answer
every damn thing but let me assure you
what you won’t hear from me is me saying
please don’t please edit that out no no
no no no I came here I showed up I know
you got critics and people say I’m going
to get as I know how
y’all I knew what I was showing up for
and a lot of times you got these cats
and they being run by their team but
they want to act like they at Y and they
being run by their team and their team
didn’t have any connection they a create
no kind of vibe they ain’t talk to you
manto man one-onone or whatever the case
may be and then they walk around with
their backup like somebody did them
wrong instead of owning what the hell
they did that’s my life
right there where it’s like I’m
constantly the villain
and I cannot tell y’all how many
times whether it’s y’all M I don’t give
a damn what podcast what show it is I’ll
see some people say some [ __ ] it could
be on YouTube it could be anywhere and
my name come up and they say something
and I’m like how come nobody asked would
they say that to my
face would they put their truth up
against my truth mhm because we all got
receipts but very very few people got as
many as me and so I’m like what when I
see people I’m watching because if it’s
sports related especially when they talk
about sports commentators and stuff like
that my name coming up I’m like okay and
I’m wondering whether that person’s
gonna call me or yo Stephen A M yo man
they said something you see what I’m
saying because I’ll have an answer right
I promise you that right but I really
get that opportunity and it’s it’s all
right but it but sometimes I I I say
people say say stuff because they know
they could get away with it right they
know they could get away with it but but
your name is so big I can see why
certain people want to say your name I
can see why because it’s it’s it’s a
clickbait even if they not trying it for
it be clickbait true cuz someone say
talking about Stephen hey they gonna
they’re gonna click on it right the name
is a hot commodity so um is that
something that bothers you when you
don’t get that call when I don’t get
that sometimes especially personal it
depends on the [ __ ] they saying and how
personal it get because I I would I
would
listen I know what codes I live by
m I
know if you a player and you didn’t get
along with the coach it was because
y’all y’all were
y’all were doing the same woman right
right you know or you screwing around
with a teammate girl or a teammate’s
wife or you know you got into this beef
because you know you tried to choke a
coach or something you know you got into
that well that that that’s the trree
well but you know depending on rumors
think about it you hear about that stuff
every year every year right so you got
all type the kind of
stuff that I get access to kind of
information that I get access to by
virtue of what I do for a living M I
promise you I don’t say 70% of the stuff
that I know wow 70% and so what happens
is when you see cats and and and you
know they talking about you and stuff
like that I will remind you I’ve been in
the business for 30 years right I know
about dudes who were talking about me
and they were filming a commercial in
the offseason in Hollywood not realizing
knew the damn
producer wow you you you connecting with
with with with cats in the hip-hop
industry you don’t know I know them
right it’s your you understand what I’m
saying I mean don’t don’t listen I’m not
the expert the afficionado at that like
I like music of course I did I I’m a
product of the hip-hop generation
growing up in holl Queens J Master J was
was best friends with my late brother
God rest so wow I grew up with Run DMC
so why they see me what do you say I
holl 50 Cent was was was you know down
the block llj grew up 5 minutes from me
on Farmers bouevard Bard The Rock The
Rock you know J Ru 50 all of these I’m
like who you talking to I’m I’m seeing
I’ve seen these people years I root for
them all day every day I’m proud of them
because I look at the road travel and I
know where they came from to get to
where they go they always going to have
my I don’t give a damn who it is my man
Ka should
have yeah you know I just got for with
Snoop cuz I tell her damn I said I had
to prepare for the interview I was
watching you with Drake CH [ __ ] I can’t
eclipse what you did you know what I’m
saying I mean it’s like the these These
are My
Brothers they know you pick up the phone
Stephen he it’s what what you need done
that’s you know I’m in I’m incredibly
grateful and humbled and thankful that I
got relationships with such iconic
figures right you can’t have
relationships with those with cats like
that if you don’t live by a cold and you
don’t stand for [ __ ] and and you going
to betray people and you going to
backstab you can’t do that so when you
got cats in the sports
world trying to bch and and Sully my
reputation that gets me hot because
you’re implying that I live by a cold
that anybody who knows me knows I do not
live by and so what happens is then I’m
watching everybody because I will watch
whether it’s y’all or somebody else and
I be like you you you just going to let
them say that right let
you going let that slide what what
evidence do you have to say that [ __ ]
about me you know and we got to remember
I know of ath they remain nameless but I
know of stars M that spoke to Executives
trying to keep me out of the business oh
wow oh damn trying to get me fired wow
trying to trying to
deny what I’m bringing and then come and
they won’t say anything I’m not going to
accuse them of smiling in my face cuz
they ain’t that flagrant with it but
they don’t know that I know like I told
you before you filming a commercial you
hanging out with your boys you might be
in a hotel you might be at a party or
whatever yo bro you ain’t been I’ve been
in this business for 30 years right I
kind of know people so it could be a
week later it could be a month later it
could be that night it’s going to get
back to me and it ain’t going to get
back to me from naysayers that’s you
know I barely know I’m talking about
people that I know whose words I know I
can trust yo Stephen A bro that ain’t no
friend this is what he’s saying about
you this is what they trying to do this
is what happened and so I just sit back
and I watch and I pray pray that they
say something about me by name oh you
don’t know how I be praying for it
because again I can unleash at my
discretion right at any moment if and I
and I’m mostly reserved M no doubt
because I’m in Corporate America and I
grew up in Corporate America the freedom
that y’all have in this in in in this
podcast world that’s something I just
adopted I never had the Stephen A Smith
show on YouTube that just started a year
ago I I don’t I you know I wasn’t doing
that all of these years I was said what
congrat thank I appreciate man I don’t I
don’t do you know I just started doing
that and I didn’t you know you could
call it a podcast because I got to deal
with IH heart radio and they going to
push that on their platforms but ad my
own pocket I built a television Studio
wow because my God I came I can’t coule
Mill out my own pocket I buil this
television Studio because a I want to
show that I can produce television on my
own whereas I’m not getting a check as
an employee I’m getting a check as a
production company CU I’m producing
content I’m getting that bag too on top
of me being the talent oh by the way not
only am I doing that I own and operate
it 100% oh by the way not only am I
doing that but I’m doing it with the
purpose of not just myself but looking
for young Talent on the come up that I
can produce years and years to come cuz
I’m 56 I ain’t 26 I don’t want to do
this [ __ ] in 30 years you know what I’m
saying I want I I I want and I want my
legacy to be somebody that’s reaching
out to help those on the come up so we
can find we can find a way to cuz
everybody can’t be you everybody can’t
be you everybody can’t be me but they
can be themselves in a fashion that’s
most profitable for them show them the
way and show them there’s an
I’m not I’m in I’m corporate because I
had to live in Corporate America for 30
years I know who I am you know say I
know what I am when I take the suit off
and I’m hanging in Hollis you I’m
hanging with the fellas or something
like that but you can’t roll up with Bob
Iger the CEO of Walt Disney and Jimmy
pataro the president of the ESPN and
Roger Goodell the NFL commissioner Adam
Silva the NBA commissioner you know like
you with the fellas right it calls for
something different do you have the
flexibility the skill the knowhow the
professionalism to be able to dance in
that world when you’re not you or you or
me and I’m the kind of person that
thinks that I could help in showing the
way so that versatility kicks in and you
can show yourself to be marketable to a
whole bunch of people people a lot of
times don’t see that we encouraging
young cats man do what you want to do
when you want to do how you want to do
it [ __ ] everybody else but you got your
hand out for somebody else’s money and
that pisses me off because I’m like
yo you don’t have to be a business owner
tell me even if you were on the street
hanging with your boys if your boys came
to you and said yo dog I need some
money you might give it to him the first
time right second time you going to be
like what the [ __ ] you need it for third
time again why you understand what I’m
saying and you going to want to know
what they doing with it you see what I’m
saying but we act like we can encourage
people to do what they want to do when
they want to do it how they want to do
when they got their hand out for
somebody else money you setting them up
for a dead end ride they going to fall
you can’t operate that way I’m the kind
of person that says that and because I
say that you got people that snub their
nose up they get their back up they got
a attitude all of this other stuff and I
don’t have patience for that because I’m
like yo I’m trying to help cats right
what you trying to do when you leading
them down a dead a dead end row right
like like me right
um I did Loving Hip-Hop right which is
viacon which is Corporate America I did
it on because I
enjoyed working for somebody right I
enjoyed it I already know I’m the boss
of whatever whatever whatever my world
but I wanted to go into somebody else’s
world that I could be accountable for
for not being on time I be accountable
for not showing up or things like that
and I enjoyed it I fully enjoyed they
didn’t want to keep paying me cuz I
wanted more exactly so we we agreed to
disagree but at times I always say that
I I I’m I’m good with you know doing
what I got to do and then if I have to
work for somebody else I’m okay with it
right I know who I am in real life so is
that how you feel when it comes to um
first even though you I wouldn’t say
when it comes to First Take You know cuz
my weakness is I hate getting up in the
morning cuz once I’m up I’m up I don’t
take naps and I stay up real late I
don’t go to sleep before 2: a.m. and so
because of that I’m up constantly you
know and and and I’m on my grind I can’t
stand getting up early that’s the only
hiccup in my entire career I’ll turn
down Millions if you ask me to get up at
4: or 5 a.m. the help with it I gotta
figure out something else you know
that’s how I am and that’s been my weak
that’s my been my one weakness
throughout my career and throughout my
life but I will tell you this I’ve often
said this about working for Disney MH it
ain’t perfect right damn it could be
hard sometimes because they got
shareholders stockholders all of that
stuff and you got to answer for that and
when you a major player somebody that
moves the needle and you know God has
blessed me I’ve been number one for them
for like 8 n years on that level in
terms of moving the needle here’s the
deal I’ve often said this I’d rather
work for someone with standards than
someone looking for
them I can always make the adjustment to
being free and easy and not having to
answer to anybody M but if I had never
had to answer to anybody right and then
all of a sudden I got to work for
somebody and work in Corporate America
I’m a lost soul I ain’t going to know
how to adjust I’m not going to know how
to live that life it’s going to drive me
crazy but the fact that I have worked
for the New York daily news for the
Philadelphia inquir for CNN Fox ports
ultimately ESPN and Walt Disney right
because of that especially Walt Disney
over the last 20 years I’m in a position
where I’ve seen so much
corporate and how strict it can be and
how paralyzing at times it can be right
that I can adjust to anything right
because it ain’t going to be much
tougher than that right in terms of the
standard right everything’s going to be
a little looser right and as a result
I’m going feel more free no matter where
you put me right and that gives me a
decisive Advantage moving forward
because I played the long
game that sense do you when you uh uh uh
uh first take but then when you
um uh uh do stepen a show yep you’re the
boss boss yes I’m the boss boss so
does is it is it is it more hard to deal
with employees hell yeah oh God oh God
my God let me tell you something man
employer is not easy look man look look
look when
people work for you
uhhuh when you’re working for somebody
you have a standard you’re determined to
meet M now you got to when you’re the
boss you have a standard you’re praying
everyone else will meet right and most
people ain’t you right right and so as a
result you know on one and not only that
here’s the thing on one
hand you the priority has to be
competence your ability you got your
crew here they got to know what the hell
they doing you see what I’m saying you
see them they got Smiles on their face
CU they know how to do their damn job
you see what I’m saying so they good cuz
they know you believe they good that’s
right and that’s all right okay so the
competence is Number One MH but right
there is trust right now trust comes in
a variety of ways right you don’t want
people telling your business but then
again when you ain’t got much to hide
you don’t care about that but the other
part of trusting is being able to close
your eyes and turn your back and know
that the standard that you’ve mandated
is being met at all times because you
got folks that are that committed right
and when there’s a question mark to that
right that could be very very stressful
I’m doing the Stephen A Smith show on
YouTube
right I got 600,000 followers I’ll
probably hit 600,000 subscribers
tomorrow right in year one that’s not
bad it’s pretty damn good great I’m
picking up about 1,500 subscribers a day
that’s great I ain’t satisfied why I
think it should be better right but I
got people around me man we doing well
and I’m looking at them you know why I’m
looking at them God damn it you don’t
set the
standard I set the standard I’m the one
cutting this check right tell me what we
doing now if I’m
unreasonable that’s different M but
don’t you dare tell me what we doing as
if you’re the one who’s defining the
standard and let me give a sports
analogy to you then I’m going to give it
to you cuz you’ll love this I’m a die
hard Nicks fan we all know that yeah
it’s hard being a Nicks fan I know it’s
hard the years years I mean toal now so
it was so hard being a Nick fan it was
hard for me to look at that damn Jim
Doan you know I walked by him now you
billionaire now he a billionaire now and
I walk
by I think it’s hard for him oh he sees
me he hi Stephen and how you doing you
know what I’m saying all CU dam is Miss
since 1999 this is 1999 we can’t get to
finals please really please we Shar on
top but this year I think they had a
chance but they had too many damn
injuries but we’ll see what happens
since they got OG number one defensive
efficiency all of this other stuff we
we’ll talk about that we doing better
than the heat no no no no I want the
heat again I actually want the heat
again if they’re healthy if they am amen
listen listen listen no no one thing as
an aside as an aside know one thing
about
me I am never losing when the heat are
playing cuz cuz that means I I get to
come to South
Beach
right let me tell you something let me
something the difference between Heat
fans and Nick fans Heat fans don’t even
sit down in their seats they back there
and Club live drinking Nick I remember
going to a Lebron
game halftime came LeBron was losing the
whole heat left the whole stadium left
and I remember being a Die Hard Nick say
that would never happen that’s true we
do not leave that’s true but here’s the
flip side you could be at a Nicks game
I’m sorry you could be at a Heat game
and if you’re not from
Miami and you know anything about Miami
goe you get there early just for the
view it
is
REM it’s a great Stadium yeah they got a
real Club in the back I was there a real
CL I was there I was there the other
night I was there the other night I I
know I there like 8:00 it was 8:00 at
night full flg Club oh [ __ ] it’s the
only time I know [ __ ] go there
just for the club Miami Miami is the
only time in my life where I sound like
Sammy Sosa Miami has been very very good
to me very very good to me it’s the only
time I sound like Sammy S you know what
I’m saying I don’t need no damn
interpreter okay but but but it is what
it is but I say all of that to say you
know using the whole Nicks thing or
anything like that as an example okay
you’ve got a situation where they
improved they doing their thing and
folks are salivating over what they
seeing mhm fair enough we’re just doing
better we’re not doing great and I’m
going like this okay do we have a chance
to go to the finals or
not because that’s how I’m looking at it
like Mitchell Robinson you gonna get
healthy OG and no you gonna get healthy
juli R you gonna get healthy Jaylen
Brunson ball somebody going to give us
some
y because I’m looking at the Boston
Celtics and I’m saying that should be
the only team standing in your way right
now Milwaukee with Dame dollar and
Giannis can’t be ignored we get all of
that but losing Drew holiday and stuff
like that you compromise defensively New
York dicks got a chance Boston is the
one roadblock standing in your face to
me anything other than a trip to the
Conference Finals if you’re healthy mm
against Boston is a failure anything
less than that is a failure so when I
see folks like man we we we we we we
doing all right mhm I’m like talking
about Nicks yeah I’m like this and I’m
going like this is your ass from New
York have you have you suffered since
1973 you understand what I’m saying I’m
like because I want you out I want you
out of here you ain’t a part of this
culture you see saying you ain’t a part
of this because they don’t know and then
you got these young whipper snappers and
stuff you in your 30s shut the hell up
you don’t know what kind of suffering we
I I I was 5 years old in 1973 when the
New York Knicks went to the finals I
ain’t seen them they listen they went to
the fin they I’m sorry when they won a
championship they’ve been to the finals
ever since but damn it even when they
went to the finals in 1999 we knew they
W going to be San Antonio you knew Yuan
with his old knees and spre well and
don’t was going to be I’m sorry Yuan was
hurt so you got free well and Cami and
you wasn’t beating Tim Duncan and David
Robinson that’s not that was like when
LeBron went to against San Antonio the
first go round in 2007 we knew he wasn’t
going to beat him so congratulations
getting there but you ain’t got a
snowball chance in hell beating that
team that’s the same thing with the New
York Knicks so I’m like when I see
people I’m like it’s not just about
getting there it’s about me firmly
believing you got a chance the last time
that happened was when you went against
Elijah one in Houston and John Stark
shot one for 11 from threo range two for
18 for the game and a game seven you
know and Pat Riley my man Pat Riley I
love this man I love robs but Pat Riley
is the boss of the New York Knicks I’m
sorry yes he the B of the New York
Knicks the head
coach you picked up Rolando
Blackman in the season who does nothing
but
shoot and there was nothing that said to
you John star is suffering right now I
need to get Rolando Blackman in there
because John star told up in game six
see it’s moments like this you can’t be
young not even born ignorant and come to
me talking about all the hell with you
you ain’t no real nick man you better
shut the hell up you don’t know you have
no idea the frustration I’m tell you how
much I’m a Nick fan yeah is every time
the Nicks get on the streak I watch and
then they lose so watch watching don’t
watch keep
Wily hear about it I think
how bad is being a Nick Manan I think
it’s me it’s me like so I’m like I’ll
ask Erica something like how do they do
tonight but I won’t physically watch cuz
every time I physically watch they
physically lose that’s right I’m not
knocking you for that thought I was the
bad luck I feel that was some time too
and then I fool myself they went over
I’m going watch them damn I shouldn’t
have watched but here let me give you
even one more tell how crazy I moved in
Miami i’ been in Miami 15 years by the
way how you feel about living here oh I
love it oh that later too let tell tell
you how bad it was being a Nicks fan is
you it’s a star a law if you a Nicks fan
and a Nets fan right it’s it’s round
upon if you a Jets
fan and a giant fan when I moan I said
oh that sh is out the window I’m a fan
of New York I’m even a f of the New York
Islanders it’s a hockey team by the
way like I a fan of everything New York
this place this this place out here
called Duffy right Duffy is a great ball
yet please the Duffy is a great ball du
but every time the
Knicks and the Heat play right everybody
just get together it’s a dope it’s a
dope ass ball a whole bunch of New
Yorkers that been living out here 20
years that we [ __ ] got we adapted to
Miami we not letting our New York you
don’t have to let it you only came here
for the weather to taxes and stuff that
we don’t need to mention that’s all
you that’s be like my ass
let’s not a lot of viewing public right
here but but but but I will tell you
this I will tell you this you don’t have
to let go of your New York fandom
because New York is everywhere we get
all of that we get all of that but I got
a better story for you so Miami hardcore
yes they are under Raleigh they don’t
play y they don’t communicate with
nobody they ain’t returning text
messages you know they ain’t leaking
information and they don’t do all that
they don’t play that game you know they
real ones they they they you know if
they got something to say they say it
publicly you understand what I’m saying
I mean I’ve known them for years I’m
very tight with the Heat organization I
go back you know close to 30 years with
a lot of these cats the Ries and the Tim
donovans that’s the communications God
thank you so much the Tim Donovan and
and and and Rob Wilson and me relations
the players dwade all of them I mean UD
all of them I’ve go back yeah I’ve known
a lot of them for years man got a lot of
love for them and they real ones but
here’s the thing that happened to me
last year okay let me tell you how
depressing this
is
so I’m furious with the New York Knicks
cuz they didn’t get Donovan Mitchell and
this is the inside right because
everybody know worldwide West right you
know that’s my man I love him but we had
to stop talking for a little while
because he was running the organization
no no no he works under the president of
the basketball observation Leon Rose but
they would pissing me off and West would
come to protect them and [ __ ] and I be
like look man we can’t talk I’m catch
your ass I’m tired this is the Knicks
this ain’t this ain’t OB I’m not
objective about the New Yorkers I’m
telling you right now see that’s the key
with with media so the journalism is out
of here out of here out of here I’m not
objective I’m now I’m objective with
what I report in terms of actual factual
information but I’m not hiding my
emotion em I am rooting for the Knicks
against anybody and when they lose I’m
pissed and I’m looking for who is going
to incur my wrath because you done piss
me off because yet again you failed okay
so he’s calling me to to to to be
protected
West yeah of Leon Ros
like yo R man in the interest of our
friendship dog we not going to talk cuz
I’m about to cuss your ass out I’m tired
of this [ __ ] man I’m tired I’m tired you
know what I’m saying and I love him man
I love known him for over 25 years but
it was driving me crazy so here’s what
happened you got an opportunity I’m
watching the Knicks and I believe I
believe M that if the Knicks had Donovan
Mitchell last year they in the
Conference Finals Miami does not beat
them Miami does not beat conf finals
champ Conference Finals they do not beat
Miami does not beat the Knicks if
Donovan Mitchell was with Brunson the
way Brunson was playing you with me yeah
so I’m saying this now you got to
remember you got to rewind the clock I’m
doing radio in New York City for ESPN
Radio back when Donovan Mitchell was
coming out of
Louisville this damn dude Phil Jackson
you know the 11 time champion six
championships in Chicago five in La you
know the Zen master who all of a sudden
don’t want to coach when he get the New
York and [ __ ] that’s what we need you
for but you don’t want to coach that
right likee
have that’s true you know what here’s
the deal we don’t know cuz he wouldn’t
show us he didn’t show up right atast B
trying to show up he was tripping all
the way but he trying to show up but the
point that I’m trying to make is this so
so Phil Jackson want to coach right and
I’m going like
this I’m hearing all these names Malik
Monk and all you know all these people
and I said Donovan Mitchell Louisville
the brother
special get
him Phil Jackson drafted this dude Frank
nilina Frank neina never heard of him in
my life was from overseas overse from
France yeah I just came from France I
still ever the hell like got just
got and I was like you know I’m I’m
furious I’m because I know you passed up
right so now I bring that up why because
Donovan Mitchell taking the league by
storm averaging 25 games showing the
skill set Utah blah blah blah he I know
Utah he wants out Utah’s looking to move
him and he wants to go home from upstate
New York want to come home want to come
home no question figure out how the hell
I know that emphatically he wants to
come to New York you understand what I’m
saying Leon
Rose has an opportunity to get this man
he is on the phone with Danny a who
departs from Boston it’s now running the
Utah
Jazz and Danny a is universally
recognized as one of the elite
Executives in the sport right right he’s
not someone you Bluff mhm he knows what
he’s doing right
right this is what he wants one about
four or five picks one an RJ Barrett you
know you one Grimes I’m like get it off
you got 11 picks over the next seven
years you got Yannis coming you got some
LeBron going to leave La who you got you
got to get
him not only does he not get him one of
the reasons he doesn’t get him this
brother Leon Rose has some dude named
gersan
roas who had recently gotten fired in
Minnesota on the phone negotiating for
him now
again how do you know this I’m Stephen a
baby this is what I do this is this is
basketball I’m telling you what I know
and I’m livid cuz you don’t get them mhm
right MH so now we fast forward to last
year’s playoffs MH and you the next and
you go and you take Cleveland out you
smoke them they can’t deal with y’all
defensively their big boys don’t respond
Jared Allen and or and Moy and these
brothers they don’t respond to the
challenge you take them out and six I’m
like
yes let’s go let’s the heater next the
heater next we coming right he relax
relax I’m feeling I’m feeling heat hey
man
we I’m feeling it right and then I watch
Jimmy Butler oh yeah put on a show this
before this before he had the braid too
right yeah this is Jimmy but last year
so so Jimmy my man love Jimmy to death
Jimmy used to be in Philadelphia I felt
Philadelphia is making a big mistake
because him and and be like this and be
love the ground this brother walked on
Jimmy Butler holding cats accountable
all that soft [ __ ] you saw from Ben
Simmons you know what I’m saying I
understand mental awareness mental
health all that stuff not trying to
disrespect but damn it you you you know
where’s the mental health when it com to
cash and that check that seem he seem to
know how to get to the bank I want to
hear that you understand I’m saying I
ain’t trying to hear that [ __ ] all right
so anyway so anyway right so so and then
he on and then he on the sideline
looking like zul looking like Zoolander
you know got on the shades and the fly
out and all of this other stuff I’m like
I said ain’t no doubt the Honeys want
you what that doing for your game what
that doing for your team don’t get me
started with that damn Ben Simmons
anyway I’m like that don’t happen with
Jimmy Butler there one way or another
something going to happen he ain’t
having that right but he in Miami now
and he had dropped like over 50 on on on
Milwaukee one game right and then they
closed him out so I’m like this all
right you
know it’s going to be tough but we we
next we can take them we can take them
right what am I bringing this up for cuz
the Heat won no that’s not why that’s
not why that’s not why I’m bringing it
up because remember the heat don’t talk
to nobody nobody right during this time
of year they locked in Eric spos your
phenomenal coach one of the best ever
they locked in
MH it’s 11:30 at
night I get a text
message it’s from Jimmy Butler
y’all are
next and I went like
this I I just
just
like my
heart Tex
me my heart my heart has never hurt so
bad over a basketball game before the
game than that because when he said that
to me in my heart you felt I
knew they going to get us but I couldn’t
admit it to myself I’m like holding up
come on come on jayen how long did it
take you to answer that text message
immediately I said a
damn I said damn and that’s all I said
all that’s all he said that’s all he
said he had the ey tiger he had the
tiger next mhm you say saying and all my
Nicks fandom and everything came down
and I went on first take the next day I
say he he said then we next I’m saying
said we next you know I said come on
y’all come on y’all and and then I go to
the game and he just
look and he didn’t say a word just shook
his head I said
tiger that was the story um it was at
one point this is you just said one of
your big disappointment is one of M was
I felt like we had a chance to get
LeBron at one point 2010 2010 yeah you
had just got five 2009 so we had we had
a chance to get LeBron yep why didn’t
James Dolan why didn’t the Knicks
organization go all out to they did they
just didn’t have anything to offer like
like James Dolan’s pitch was come to me
and I’ll make you a
billionaire that was his pitch that’s
kind of like a cool pitch right I know
that unless you believe you going to be
a billionaire without him yeah which is
what LeBron believed all right so that
was number one so LeBron they in
Cleveland M you know you got Donnie
Walsh rolled in in the wheelchair you
got James Dolan who don’t have the
greatest reputation you got Dan Tony and
cats like that all right that that that
had to compete with Pat
Riley Pat Riley from what I was told
rolled up in there with the championship
ranks and put them on the table [ __ ] you
want one of these you want one of these
now if you remember I’m the one that
broke that story I went on the air and I
said this is a dope story I said LeBron
I said I said LeBron no I’m talking
about LeBron’s taking his he’s going to
South Beach and everybody was like they
were crucifying me for 3 weeks cuz by
this time I was gone I was unemployed
for damn I was unemployed damn near for
a full year I I had started off
resurrecting my career by going to FOX
Sports radio and I was doing morning
radio and on that morning radio show I
announced to the world LeBron going to
South Beach I had sources tell me LeBron
going to South Beach this is three weeks
in advance he taking his talents to
South Beach what the hell does he know
no wonder he got fired from ESPN he
don’t know [ __ ] you know he ain’t doing
this he ain’t doing that blah blah blah
and it was one of the hardest three
weeks of my life because I knew I was
right I knew my source was reliable but
if he had changed his mind you know if
he had something different you know what
I’m saying so it was like and you know
the Wolves were circling cuz you know
cats wanted me to fall on my face they
wanted me to fail the whole nine and so
had he announced that he was going
somewhere else you know it would have
made me look really really bad at that
particular moment in time in my career
nobody’s right all the time you only go
by what your sources tell you but at
that time in my my career having been
Let Go by ESPN a year earlier having
starting to resurrect myself on SP Fox
Sports Radio in the morning time with
Fox Sports Radio not really getting that
kind of shine and now the eye of the
sports world was on Fox Sports Radio
because of what I reported that night
that LeBron announced he was taking his
talents to South Beach was one of the
most stressful nights of my entire life
but because cuz you got the prop though
for that yeah but I’m saying but he say
but before that he
mind that’s right cuz he could change
his mind or whatever so had he said he
was taking his talents everywhere
anywhere else they would have said I was
wrong I didn’t know what I was talking
about no wonder ESPN let his ass go blah
blah blah blah blah so all of that was
going on right and I knew my sources and
I knew my sources knew so I had no doubt
but that didn’t mean he wouldn’t change
his mind and so that’s what I was
dealing with that’s what I was living
with and ultimately when he decided to
take his talents to South Beach it’s
because first of all him and dwade was
supposed to be there whether Melo wants
to admit it or not Melo was supposed to
be there I’m the one that told you that
and hold on I also thought that M was
supposed to join him with the Knicks at
at one point that’s no no that wasn’t it
okay they were supposed to join they had
made a pack
yo we going to negotiate our deals in
2007 to have an out after year three so
we have an option to be opt out and
become free agents to go wherever we
want to go m
Melo was like
yo I’m from Baltimore I ain’t passing up
that guaranteed money Denver offered me
five years I’m going take the five years
which wouldn’t make him a free agent
until a couple of years later right
right it was supposed to be dwade LeBron
and Melo but Melo locked himself into
the cash in Denver and as a result Bosch
opted out and because Bosch opted out
Bosch ended up going there with them and
Melo had to force his way out of Denver
a year later of Denver a year later to
come to New York City but had
Melo kept the option he had an option to
get out in 2010 it was going to be Melo
LeBron and D way now they will now I
don’t know I’ve never heard them admit
it I don’t give a [ __ ] what they say I’m
telling you what I know Melo
Braun and D way they could took they can
go on their shows they can go on their
shows they can talk whatever they want
they could tell whatever story they want
right I’m the one that reported it I’m
the one that broke the story I’m telling
you the Intel that I received it was
Melo dwade LeBron and because Melo had
opted out had not opted out and took the
five full years for 80 mil from Denver
at that time that’s why it didn’t happen
and I got Melo on camera on my show
quite frankly on ESPN 2 at that time
saying yo I wasn’t walking away from the
guaranteed dollars
wow D so it was never supposed to be
Bosch wow it was supposed to be Mello
and now we sit here and looking at an
illustrious career a scoring machine a
future Hall of Famer and Carmelo Anthony
who’s never won a championship and we
all know if that brother was with d
Wayne and LeBron
he’d had at least those two and probably
three of the four because you can’t
convince me when LeBron and that’s one
of the reasons why and I’m speculating
In fairness to LeBron me and LeBron are
respectful to one another I got mad
respect for him incredible role model
incredible player I got him number two
all time behind MJ is the greatest
player in the history of basketball all
of that stuff major major Pros with him
that’s the biggest reason we don’t [ __ ]
with each other because it was a choke
job against the Dallas Mavericks and I
called it I said yo it’s a choke job you
understand you can’t have Jason Terry or
JJ Berea guarding you in the fourth
quarter that’s inexcusable is no you you
LeBron James and that’s what happened
because he hadn’t learned how to win yet
to the degree that he W that he did and
see when I think about measuring just to
shift a little bit if you don’t mind
when I think about the goat that is the
ultimate reason why I have MJ over him
right statistically that’s fine hell
with all of that Jordan averaged over 30
about nine times nine time defensive all
defensive NBA first team 10 times
scoring champ what we talking about he
want to hear all that and played in a
different era that was Far More Physical
than it is now yes right the issue is
this the road to
Prosperity matters think about what you
two have going through in your life we
ain’t talk about hip-hop talk about your
life the obstacles that you had to
overcome to get to where you are the
greatness isn’t measured by just your
skill set and your success and where you
landed you Jay-Z You LL you others it’s
not that it’s the road you travel if you
born with a silver spoon in your mouth
thinking you hit a home run when you on
when you started off on third base
that’s entirely different than starting
off from nothing and getting to where
you are and so what I’m saying is MJ had
to do that with LeBron the difference is
as MJ was climbing you never looked at
him and said he’s the reason y y’all
didn’t win in that Dallas series LeBron
was the reason you didn’t win a title
the first year in Miami you should have
had three titles right you should have
had the title against OKC the title
against San Antonio the first title
against Dallas
you should have had that they had an
agent Jason kid Jason Terry JJ Berea
okay Dirk nitzki of course was a
superstar at that particular moment of
time we get that but it wasn’t LeBron
dwade and BOS and those Brothers if
LeBron shows up in that series and
specifically in the fourth quarter cuz
first three quarters he was there
specifically in the fourth quarter we’re
talking about four consecutive fourth
quarters of an NBA Finals right where
there was an APB out for your
ass yo yo we just talking facts I LeBron
I still have him number two all time I
still think that he’s a great player a
great person one of the great people I
mean he’s phenomenal but the fact of the
matter is that’s on your resume when we
look at Jordan well you didn’t beat the
Pistons because Scotti Pippen had that
damn migraine in game seven against the
Pistons you see what I’m saying when you
finally overcame the Pistons and you got
to the finals although it was an asan
magic and it was Vlad Devo instead of
Kareem and all this other You Still
Smoked them in five Still Smoked them in
five when Jordan switched hands in the
midair all that stuff in game two and
all all the St you saw what the brother
did to Drexler and ciry and and all of
those Brothers when he went against them
in the second go round third go round it
was Barkley with Kevin Johnson Dan
Marley in those we saw that we saw him
retire come back come back in the second
year with 17 games left
lose in the playoffs against Nick
Anderson and Dennis Scott and Shaquille
and haris and we saw them carry Harris
Grant his former teammate off the court
and the shoulders and that brother went
out and got robman and the next year
they took him out four straight swept
them blew him out of the building I mean
it was an Annihilation because Jordan
and Pippen had you scared to dribble the
ball because they were pressing You full
court it was Unreal we saw you beat GP
and sea km remember Sean km I’m not
talking about Sean Clump I’m talking
about Sean K you understand what I’m
saying I’m talking about that brother
you beat him we saw you beat Malone and
stockt and not once but twice this is
what we saw at what we saw him against
Portland Jordan against Portland and we
saw him not look great in game six and
and and and and Phil Jackson pulled him
to the bench and the reserves came back
on like a 15 to2 run or whatever it was
but we also saw Phil Jackson put his ass
right back in that game to close this is
Jordan we talking about you didn’t see
that
LeBron in that Series against Dallas my
point in all and saying all of that with
the story is this when we’re measuring
greatness it’s not about your resume M
all of y’all got a resume right it’s a
about
moments and when those moments arrive
where you at who are you who are you now
if it’s an aberration and it’s something
that you’ve never done before and you’ve
been asked to do it that’s different but
when you got a game that’s
herculan and it’s that way throughout
the regular season throughout the first
second third round and then you get to
the finals and all of a sudden it
evaporates that’s a problem that’s a
problem because it’s you not being able
to do what you normally do when the
moment arrives this ain’t Stephen A
choking with some damn first pitch at
Yankee Stadium when I never stepped on a
mountain of my damn life you had lons on
I did I I did mess up I made a business
decision I made a business decision I’m
try to get I’m trying to get it over the
plate but what I’m not going to do is
bust my ass on National Television on
the M I’m not doing that all right so I
made a business decision but I choked
it’s D but I’ve never been on a mound
before right that’s entirely different
than me being on the mound all the time
and I’m throwing strikes and then all of
a sudden the moment arrives and I can’t
find the strike zone there’s a
difference and I’m saying to you we
ain’t never said that about MJ and that
is why MJ has goat status amongst those
of us who know like I watched G aren say
that he thinks the NBA got soft because
of Europeans right okay I thought it was
an interesting take Gilbert knows
basketball and I and I respect the hell
out of good R and I did I I never I
never looked at it like until he said it
he said they don’t play defense they
just want to shoot jump shots so that’s
what made a Sol well I won’t say that
cuz mon jopi played defense mon Rudy go
is a is a three-time defensive player of
the year that brother ain’t from the
states I mean you got European players
that play defense not all of them not
all of them but he’s right for the most
part in terms of how they changed the
complexion of the game but understand
why they changed the complexion of the
game if we going to be listen man we we
here on drink champ we
drink call
it’s the brother’s
fault it’s the brother’s fault let me
tell you
how the NBA is a business mhm they about
making money M you make money in sports
when you make your product attractive to
the
masses so you got the bad boy Pistons
right very physical game NBA wanted to
take that out they thought they were
successful
then Ry went out and had
Oakley
Ying Mason you see what I’m saying and
even at the guard spot that even don’t
say no damn Charles Smith don’t get me
started with it five minutes layups I
want to hear that we ain’t going that
route but what I’m saying is but what
I’m saying is is that when when you have
that right so you got these Rough Riders
okay and if you remember you remember
this you appreciate you going to give me
a high five on this one before mace
before Oakley Kim banister yes remember
that brother we talk about got that
brother out the suit he got that brother
straight off the streets straight off
the streets you understand he was like
remember said you entertain was doing
Kings of Comedy and he was joking around
that you can’t have a black person in
hockey they’ll just be Ro you just
skating
around that was banister he was that
kind of dude right so R was like Anthony
Mason was like that too to me yeah yeah
but I’m saying he bister preceded him is
my point okay and then don’t forget
Xavier McDaniel don’t forget him right
want scared nobody Ru Riders right so
what did Riley do Riley
said we ain’t got the talent to beat we
ain’t got the talent to beat
Chicago but if we get enough dudes that
can snatch their heart we could get
him and obviously you couldn’t do that
to
MJ but that’s the only reason you
couldn’t do it to them cuz they were
giving Scotty Pippen and the rest of
those cast nightmares you see what I’m
saying so my point is as the game
evolved the NBA particularly with the
Dream Team the original Dream Team in
Barcelona you’re seeing all of this and
as the game evolved you saw what
attracted the global market to the sport
that wasn’t going to do it you want to
see Shooters you want to see a more
uptempo style you wanted to see more
finesse because it ensured the
likelihood of those players being on a
court more when it counted then if you
allow the level of physicality to
dominate the game that could compromise
cats a perfect example is let’s look at
Steph Curry I think that Steph Curry is
the greatest shooter God ever created
I’ve had Hall of Fame Ray Allen huh more
than Ray Allen easy okay as great as Ray
Allen was gray all any shooter okay that
tells you that they were a better
shooter then Steph Curry [ __ ] slap him
and throw off the shelf [ __ ] just get
rid of him just get rid of just get rid
of them they’re not being honest there
is no shooter in the history of the game
better than Steph Curry because you had
spot spot up Shooters you had catch- in
Shooters you had shooters that had their
favorite spot right wi left wing top of
the
key 21 feet 23 feet 25 ft M Steph Curry
there is no
spot nor is there any range that he
can’t touch do you realize with Steph
you literally have to keep your head on
the swivel from the moment he steps past
half court wow he can pull up from 40
wow he’s that lethal there has never
been anything like him but I’ve had Hall
of Famers Hall of Famers tell me he
wouldn’t average 20 a game if he was
playing in our error and they and I said
what I said I said what magicord eror
but they weren’t disrespecting him what
they were saying was the game was so
physical we could get away with hitting
his elbow we could get away with
tripping him we could get away with when
he’s running through those PS giving him
a giving him some wood we could do that
you can’t do that now and because you
can’t do that now it would have
compromised them what is the one thing
that has compromised Steph Curry
particularly earlier in his career he
had those ankle injuries and those ankle
injuries those ankle
injuries man they would have stepped on
his foot as he was walking through
screens on purpose [ __ ] just stepped on
his foot how you going to catch if you
referee it’s an accident going think
whatever know talking about you know
what I’m saying you know and listen you
had Lawrence tailan football later on in
life at Mitten man he would sent
prostitutes to the hotel room to to to
to to the night before the game for
opponents you crazy stuff like that this
in his book it’s in his book I’m just
using that as I’m just using that as an
example I’m using that as an example to
highlight back in the day
the extent they would go to to derail an
opponent right I know certain
Superstars one of the things they love
to do see these are these this is what I
say when I can’t say everything right I
know Superstars they was In fairness to
them they were single they weren’t
married
right they would literally go to go
after your
girl just to mess with you right before
they played you and then step out on the
court and bust your living ass and they
just to demoralize you and let you know
you can’t mess with me and literally
when they doing that you might go home
thinking you ain’t the man he is in
other departments after he get after
they get through with you and they did
it on purpose I’m just telling you these
are the stories I’m I’m I’m telling you
they told me m I’m like I’m like I ain’t
make it up they’re like yo this what
happened and I would never tell who but
I’m just saying to you those kind of
things so when I’m covering the game I’m
bringing all of this of here to the
equation I sit up there and say stay off
the weed right I’m not talking about
brothers that they ain’t costing you
money hell I got family members been
smoking weed all their life you
understand what I’m saying depending on
Whose relatives house I go to I might
get a contact high you know what I’m
saying I mean come on y’all like I’m not
talking about somebody not compr I’m
talking about when it’s compromising
your dollars because you going to get
you going to get fined you going to get
suspended don’t let it mess with your
money back in the day when I was
covering the sport we sat Courtside we
at the scorers table so when you’re a
player and you’re checking in you have
to walk right by us I saw Larry Brown
one day and this was not Iverson it was
not I I I saw Larry Brown one day look
at a player three down three down the
player was right in front of me he went
like this
huh I threw up my paper and just walked
away I said [ __ ]
high he ain’t going do he ain’t going to
do nothing tonight you know say like and
I’m I’m I’m sitting there I’m sitting
there right now ladies and
gentlemen that was when weed wasn’t
legal in 26 27 26
out you know what I’m saying but I mean
that was when we wasn’t legal in 26 to
27 States right without diming anybody
right how much weed you think is being
smoked before games now oh no I think
they going I’m talking about in any
sport you pick and oh by the way and by
the
way all you got to do is look at them
[ __ ] so I’m sitting there I’m sitting
there like like you you you really mad
when you see me on first take and I’m
like this damn the we no no or or I’m
like this I’m like this because I’m not
saying stay off the weed to any specific
person to Dime him out cuz I wouldn’t do
that but I’m sitting there looking at
them he had a problem last night he a
seem like
himself you know what I’m saying and you
mad you mad but your ass walked up to
the scorus table wobbling right you know
what I’m saying I’m like I’m like and
and and and that’s why when I’m watching
cats with their podcast and all of this
other stuff see you got people in the
media and other places pissed off
because you looking at players and you
like what they trying to do is they
trying to etch out the media you just
rely on us you ain’t got to talk to them
oh no no no no no I said y’all looking
at it all wrong I want all of them to
have their their podcast all of them to
have their voice cuz they going to talk
and when they going to talk I’m going to
have news to talk about cuz I’m watching
I’m watching you can talk all you want
to you still got to play I’m looking at
you you talk all the stuff you want I’m
looking at you I saw what your ass did I
saw you roll up in the game I saw you
well enough whether it’s me in person or
the camera angle zooming in on you I saw
how bloodshot your eyes was I saw how
you look like you could barely open that
I I I watch I’m watching you move I’m
watching you move I even went to the
doctor the other day man and I asked him
I said
man cuzz uh it’s this cat that that that
that I talked to for like 10x Health
Gary bre I got him on my podcast now
because I made a tremendous Health
change cuz I was really in bad shape a
couple you know a year and a half ago
and stuff like that really resurrecting
my health I’m feeling better than I feel
like 30 years right so I go to him thank
you and I I went to him man I said let
me ask you a
question scientifically could you give
the breakdown of
weed oh [ __ ] and tell me what kind of
effect it has on people and why go to
the podcast Stephen A Smith show on
YouTube and and he’ll break it down to
you right you ain’t going to have no
problem you ain’t going to have no
problem none of y’all ain’t going to
have no problem but when he says what he
says M you going to ask yourself should
them brothers be doing that if they got
to play they got to play probably not
because you got to remember calms your
mood Mellows you out helps you sleep set
Etc you know what it doesn’t
do it doesn’t elevate your level of
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urgency so let’s say for example you
going against
Kobe who wasn’t doing that or you going
against Jordan or somebody like that who
wasn’t doing that right right and you
mellow mhm and they Killers right what
chance do you have you have no chance
because there’s a level of urgency that
they feel you get the check you get in
the back and on top of it all you know
everybody know you can ball so you ain’t
no scrub right right but did you win
right see that’s where Stephen A comes
in because that’s me like yeah dog I
know why the hell you lost I know I I
know what you didn’t do you see what I’m
saying and I’m not I might be talking
about them but I’m not talking to them
I’m talking about that audience out
there to say let them talk that [ __ ]
they want to M I’m telling you you got
to hold them more accountable than that
you can’t always win but you got to be
able to look at any professional and go
like this did you do all it took to win
because as a Nick fan if some if a Nick
walked in here and looked you in your
face
yeah man you know
[ __ ] yeah you know he tried to win you
know but [ __ ] happened ain’t no big dead
you going to be like this no edit get
out here I like you going be like this I
don’t like his you’re not a rapper I’m
the let me be the rapper you going be
like I don’t like I don’t like his ass
you know saying I don’t like him because
you you like wait a minute it ain’t
nonchalant it ain’t Blas what you mean
that’s how you going to
feel that’s me
let let me let me change the subject a
little bit like but it’s still on the
same subject do you think LeBron is a
victim of his circumstances because like
you just said the league has changed
right so a lot of people accuse LeBron
of not having Killer Instinct right but
when I look at youngsters who only have
like me me personally my shabaz I wish
shabaz was here when I was about to say
which he was here he had TNT shirt uh
jacket on but to me and I know you could
debate me I know there’s plenty of
people who could debate me what I’m
about to say right now sure me I think
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer of
all time right cuz I’ve seen all clearly
the best defensive boxer of all time
without okay I agree to both but I’ve
seen all of his fights right so have I I
missed some of uh uh I missed all of
Ali’s I I came a little later right I
missed even some of Tyson’s okay but I
seen all of Floyd May ironically the
only fights I didn’t see is his
exhibitions I can’t stand it I love him
I love him too much for his for his
legacy on the line
right but is Leon is LeBron a victim of
his circumstances
meaning could you think LeBron could
have survived in a Kobe Jordan
era survive yes Prosper I’m not so sure
allow me to explain I would like to let
me explain I would like and and before I
answer that question let me say this
let’s not forget Lenard that’s right
let’s not forget wifredo bonitz M it’s a
bad brother let’s not forget Salvador
Sanchez who died in the plane crash not
forget Hector Kam no no we can forget
him we can forget now he went on that
level he kamacho was nice but he wasn’t
on that level okay I’m giving you dudes
that was on that level I would say uh
Aaron PRI but but he took too many many
punches he just he just take you out
isn’t Aaron PRI the one that had the the
the gloves I don’t think so but I know I
know I know that when he beat Alexis
aguo Alexis aguo they were talking about
give him the stuff give him the stuff I
don’t know what the hell of stuff was
right I don’t know remember that I
remember that but let me tell you why I
answered the LeBron James question that
way cuz it’s a great question that you
asked right and everybody need to
understand
this just like I talked about moments
mhm you got to talk about competition
mhm so when we talking about competition
right then it has to be something along
the lines
of what would have happened had you gone
against those people MH feel
me when LeBron was struggling to develop
the Killer Instinct that ultimately was
in him and he was able to conquer to
ultimately be a young OKC team after he
had beaten Boston to get you know to the
finals and all this other stuff right
Indiana actually too what I’m saying to
you is that while you were learning how
to win M would Jordan have ever let you
learn see here’s what you have to
understand Michael
Jordan is 6 and 0 in NBA final
Series MVP of every single NBA final
series that he won TR who never allowed
the series to get to game seven
not one time not one time and so when
you say to me Lebron playing in that
Jordan
era a threat to
MJ then what we have to ask ourselves is
how would MJ have responded to a
perceived
threat you don’t get to dismiss
that you got to absorb that you got to
absorb
I they saying your ass can take me
out there are people saying that to
Michael Jordan M how would he have
responded MH and I’m telling you I
believe because of what I saw from
LeBron in that fourth in the fourth
quarters of those of that Series against
the Dallas Mavericks right that Michael
Jordan would have never allowed him to
find
out what it was to win that’s that’s
what I’m saying wow that’s the
difference and so when people talk yeah
LeBron’s an ultra talent and LeBron and
MJ wasn’t 69 26 mhm but my rort is well
LeBron is 69 26 and still lost 6 NBA
Finals he did lose six M they been to 10
mhm but he lost six you have Boston in
in his way when he was younger MJ mhm
you had Detroit in his way when he got
older mhm LeBron had
Indiana with Paul George and Rick
Smiths you
know [ __ ] like
that I’m not even say Rick Smith but but
but but Paul George and the crew I’m
sorry
H that’s right Roy H okay and I like Roy
but I’m saying is you had that kind of
stuff you ain’t have Boston with bird
Mel Parish Ang and you didn’t have Isa D
Mars Vinnie the microwave coming off the
bench Sally lamb be I mean what what you
ain’t had that got be mad you you a you
ain’t had that you had you had you had
Indiana early right Toronto late with
Demar D rozan and Kyle Larry much
respect to both much respect to both but
that’s what you had you didn’t have
those
obstacles that is how I look at it and
that is why Lebron James will never be
my goat right ever it will always be
Michael Jordan over him but mad respect
to him he’s on the Mount Rushmore
basketball incredible role model in this
day and age social media and Beyond he’s
he’s incredible he just ain’t MJ is is
it possible and I know this is going to
sound like a cliche type of question is
it possible that Michael Jordan Kobe
Bryant and LeBron is all some of the
greatest of all time yeah but when you
compare it to each other then it’s it’s
optional and that’s why I get pissed
okay because of the sensitivity like
I’ve said to LeBron teams the rich Paul
the Maverick Carters of the world and
others I remember I said to Rich Paul
you act like it’s an insult to call him
the second greatest player of all time
Rich Paul said it is an insult I can’t I
can’t talk to you can’t talk to
you you know what I’m saying you know
what I’m saying I ain’t talking to you
I’m not wasting my time with that above
K which was very surprising but but the
reason why is because LeBron played the
see M Kobe is number two to MJ playing
The Identical position with the
identical style and so my point is I’m
looking at LeBron and thinking about the
point forward that you are you know a
Magic Johnson type who can still put up
27 a night in your career rebounds
assist playmaking ability scoring
ability and at one time was an elite
Defender for at least one year and so
when I’m looking at all of those things
that is what I put over Kobe because he
facilitated winning to a greater to to
to an even greater degree
individually as Kobe did in terms of
making your teammates better Kobe was
just an assassin and so as a result he
emulated Michael and he was the closest
to Michael in that regard but he was
still number two at the same position
I’m going to give LeBron respect the
hell
[ __ ] I have no idea yeah me neither keep
it going I have no idea that’s all right
that’s Kobe or somebody it’s Kobe Kobe
like Sten aing it
together T it’s a TV it’s a TV it’s a TV
it’s a TV look ahead look ahead the long
was in hit me that’s all so anyway so
anyway it was like that’s the only
difference that’s the Des you know
that’s the Nugget that I’m picking aart
that’s it okay that was that was a great
[ __ ] answer that was a great [ __ ]
answer you got the flowers yes Stephen A
our show is about giving their flowers
to the people I want to tell you how
much like I I’ve watched you so
much that there been times I got busy
mhm
and I knew that it was okay not to watch
the game cuz you’re going to cover it in
the morning and I’m I enjoy sometimes
watching you covering the game more than
actually watching the actual game thank
you bro appreciate you know what I mean
because like you’ll break it down and
you’re very very fair you like but
you’re very firm if a play has that two
for 11 night right I call it you call it
so we wanted to face the to face mad man
give you your flowers man face
face Snoop Dog said it’s it’s better
than the Grammy cuz it comes from his
people and we want to give you your let
you know how great you are I’m going be
honest in case you I know you know this
but in case you don’t know you change
the way we watch sports we change the
way abut that that that we articulate
Sports and we understand Sports and in
case anyone never told you that’s who
you are you are
you are a go I said in in the um
intro and I mean that [ __ ] I appreciate
it know what I’m saying I mean that me a
lot thank and you continuing to be great
you out here losing weight doing your
damn thing running around we love we
respect you want to give you your
flowers man because you sincerely 1
million per deserve your props every
single day thanks a lot bro you know
what I mean when people talk about you I
know why they talk about you cuz you’re
that you’re that guy and we want to tell
you how much
we appreciate y’all man hell yeah yeah H
yeah doing quick time oh yes okay all
right cool you you want to bring in
Sunny D and bring
brny
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Diego come on this is the United Nations
of this United Nations we got all type
of races here I like it talk about
whatever y’all want yes yes so U all
right you want to explain him the game
yeah so now this is a a drinking game
that we play oh [ __ ] yeah no Drinker you
know I’m drinking a little bit to that
my you a sip you can take a sip or or
you could have a designated Drinker like
for the shots go so we’re going to give
you uh two choices all right if you pick
one no drinking okay but if you say both
or neither the politically correct
answer right we all drink got all of us
we don’t leave you out all right so I
can’t wait for this one and then if you
have any stories to go behind any of the
names things that we bring up please
please dive into no problem no problem
by the way um I’m glad of this first
question she she BR she bringing my
drink oh yeah yeah yeah I’m glad this
first
question get your shot you can do light
shots you don’t have to go crazy well
they said I can sip on this yeah you
can
drive all right by the way on the G by
the way uh these people who are about
the name is making hip-hop so exciting
right now right I I I don’t necessarily
or at all I don’t at all cosign
any any brothers beefing I don’t cosign
that
but I cosign competition I don’t comp I
don’t cosign drama or comp but if if if
me and you going to go in the booth
together and or go separately and I’m
going to try to take your head off as
you should listen when when Kendrick
Drake jcole all them got in that the
other day all I said was yo we grew up
the hip-hop industry was born from batt
found the foundation of it right you
know so so that’s the first question I
got to ask go is Drake or Kendrick Lamar
d Dam first of all first of all major
props to both of them yes major props to
both of them and thank by the way and by
the way as an
aside Kendrick Lamar did a hell of a job
acting in power oh yeah when he yes he
was phenomenal he was
phenomenal he was he was ill I mean he
was it was special I’m going to go with
Drake because even though everybody
knows Kendrick Lamar and knows how
gifted he is
you got too many people periodically
trying to trying to come at Drake and
he’s always standing M like mainstream
globally that’s ill I mean he’s one of
those dudes it could be the look it
could be how he communicates it could be
his flavor it could be anything but
Drake damn near seems
impenetrable and what I take from Drake
is is I don’t hear Too Many people
coming at Kendrick Lamar yeah no
nobody’s really I don’t yeah but
everybody always trying to come at Drake
that’s facts yeah damn that’s facts and
obviously I can relate to that right so
I’m going to say Drake okay what we okay
I’m going say Drake okay does that mean
I need to take a
sip you if you pick you don’t got to
drink
yeah Jordan or LeBron Jordan I was going
to switch it up there’s nothing to talk
about there’s nothing don’t even
would have been the switch up no I’m not
going to say it cuz I’m going switch it
up somewhere else okay okay Yan or
Hakeem Jamal damn I got to go with the
dream aijan I mean he did beat him in
the finals he did bust his ass while he
beat him in the finals uh he was a
league MVP he was an NBA Finals I mean
AEM the dream Elijah wanted something
spectacular I mean the dream Shak and
the whole nine you got to go with a Keem
the dream alijan I respect you
appreciate him love him but he wasn’t a
Keem elijan elijan got Kenny
Smith from your hood feeling good about
himself
right they Championship together right
together Craig Elo Robert or and all of
those
Brothers n or Jay-Z okay JayZ now let me
say this about quick with his let me I
I’ll be quick with it because somebody
asked me the other day and I picked
Eminem over Nas I’m thinking about I
know Nas is special I’m not trying to
dismiss him he’s phenomenal right but we
appreciate him I got to take into
account how much you appreciated the
world over regardless of communities
regardless of ethnicities regardless of
your heritage where your local is
whatever I got to take all of those
things into consideration and obviously
Eminem is something spectacular plus
he’s white and he’s spectacular and you
got Brothers standing down against him
because they know how spectacular he is
now that doesn’t mean Nas is doing it
because Nas is phenomenal in his own
right and we can’t ignore that but in
the the flip side to it is that I got to
acknowledge that when you talk about
Jay-Z I mean we talking about somebody
that I consider to be the greatest of
all time and when
you when you talk about Jay-Z do you
know what you have to do sometimes you
got to bring up Tupac and Biggie God
Rest their souls and what they would
have been if they were still alive to
conquer Jay-Z you don’t have
you you don’t have a living creature in
a hip-hop game that you say definitively
eclipses Jay-Z you just don’t have it
but let me let me let me sure reiterate
um what you were saying earlier I think
Jay-Z is a uh victim to his
circumstances as well because the rap
game was really really foul when Biggy
and Pac was going at it and after big
and fox loss it’s kind of like the
LeBron from the standpoint of what from
the stand like the emergence of JayZ is
from wasn’t as as as hardcore but what
I’m saying is that’s why I brought up
you got to bring up Bigg a Tupac right
right you right I said I said because
when you asked me that question I’m
thinking about living rappers and all
that other that if you asked me if
Biggie or Tupac could have been Jay-Z
I’d say yeah a lot of people would I’d
say yeah they could they could now now
now now to Me Biggie would have been
that dude mhm to rival Jay-Z right Tupac
to me as brilliant as he was as an
artist he was just as potent and
profound as an activist so because of
that I mean when you go back he’s
multiac I mean when you go back when I
think
about myself some of the positions that
I’ve taken some of I mean because you
know you got you talk about me I’m
communicating sports but I’m also
talking politics I’m talking I’m talking
a lot of different things and when you
if you really really paid attention to
what I have to go up against and the
platforms that I’m on having to know I
got to deal with corporate America in
the streets and I got to do all of that
I think about not comparing myself in
any way but I think about Tupac not as a
com not as a comp not as something to
compare to but I think about
him as someone that I marveled at
because when he stood before anybody and
like literally spoke his mind right no
matter what the subject was you was
transfixed you had to stand at attention
and really really listen even if you are
disagreed with and I’ve seen reporters
and commentators and others disagreeing
with him but you had to shut the hell up
and listen because what the brother had
to say was deep and a lot of times I’ll
get on cats you know I mean like this
you know one of the things is a pet
peeve mind from us in our community when
be like yeah you know you know what I
mean no the [ __ ] I don’t
you didn’t speak yet I don’t know what
you mean say it first now follow that up
by saying know I mean but you can’t say
before you know what I’m saying I mean
it’s like you in the business that you
you know you out here trying to make
paper trying to make some money you know
you talking in business with somebody
you got to roll up on them and speak
fluently you got to know how to
communicate in a fashion that will
resonate with them to sell yourself on
the opportunity you’re trying to get
them to embrace with you how are you
doing that yeah man you know you know
what I’m saying you know I’m just trying
to you you know what I mean no I don’t
say [ __ ] yet and that drives me crazy
say it first and then if you followed it
up with you know what I mean yeah I do
know what you mean I got may you know
what I’m saying that’s why we don’t
interview Young Artists we don’t
interview Young artist we don’t want one
don’t
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you we going to do we going to keep it
home team we going to do highlight two
games let’s go Bulls and Knicks Toronto
and Miami Heat we going to get into the
Miami Heat first cuz I got to say they
playing to be in the playing tournament
you’re fighting in in the playoff they
don’t want to be in the play Boston
Celtics has secured the number one spot
in the East okay okay so they’re not
involved today today today today today
congratulations conat conat today we got
the and we got a special guest Zeno in
the
house so the total points per game has
been an average of 110 for the Miami
Heat will they go higher or lower
against Toronto’s defense averages 118
for their opponents I’m going to go
higher on Miami Miami’s on fire I I love
living in Miami I love being the part of
it just not when they go against the
Knicks so I’m going say higher my home
team higher for sure Sunny higher I
agree with both of the guys for the
first time I got the heat higher as well
I’m I’m going go low okay
okay I’m go low
in Reverse Toronto averages 112. 6
points offensively and the miam he
allows 108 points so will Toronto go
higher or lower than 112 it depends if
Drake is in the game if Drake go to the
game they going to go higher if Drake is
not at the game they they play better
when Drake is did they play better when
playing the last they’re playing in the
305 in the center I’m going say lower
then Drake ain’t coming to Miami for the
game that’s the perfect excuse to come
to Mi come to Miami that’s a perfect I
think I’m going
go I think I’m going go higher for
Toronto it’s going to be a
game definitely L and Miami has the top
five scoring defense and they’re at home
and they’re trying to get in the
playoffs for position super low okay not
only do I have the heat and Bam anab bio
having more than five blocks I have the
heat having lower than 112 points and we
like to just say
AKA is the the bopus BAM Z know higher
or lower yeah yeah Toronto
sucks no one likes them nobody wants to
go there so so you’re saying lower lower
okay lower call now getting into the
players now right to Bam points per game
average is 19.6 will it be higher or
lower who’s the big man in Toronto the
big man in Toronto is Kelly linic X
Miami Heat thaty X Miami he he’s a
dud he’s also Canadian he’s a dud he
don’t play defense you know that he yeah
yeah he sucks that was one of
my he
a Kelly yeah I’m going I’m going lower
as well lower than 19. you off I’m going
go lower as well all right now going
higher sticking on the rebound section
he averages 10.7 rebounds oh bam atab
bios you’re going higher or lower than
10.7
rebounds Sunny higher because Kenny uh
Ken l Kelly Kelly Kelly Kelly the dud
I’m not going to say he’s a bad player
he for a reason but watch is going to be
all over him like
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R I agree so we going higher I’m agree
with
sunny
okay okay now on the flip side for Kelly
o he averages 12.6 points a game he
going to go higher or
lower
and0 I was thinking um I think he’s
going to go lower lower than 12 yeah I
think it’s going to be good competition
I think he’s going to strive for the for
the best I think I’m going to go higher
on this this one
12.6 efn I want to hear everybody else’s
thoughts okay sunny I say he goes higher
because most of Toronto’s players the
last game of the year they all on
vacation this guy’s going to get a lot
of playing time he shoots three pointers
and he’s going against his xtam Miami
Heat he’s going higher than 12 points
got something to prove I’m impressed all
right I’m impressed sunny I got him
going higher too this is no cocaine
Sunny never been
C we’re going lower on the cocaine
low and a half Point what say what did
say no I I like what I I think he he’ll
be able to score 13 points he’s a pretty
good offensive player it’s his defense
you got to worry about okay I agree now
now in regards of him playing the same
position as bam but his rebounds is only
5.3 it’s a little low so we’ll be higher
or lower than 5.3 rebounds white man
can’t jump he he he won’t he won’t get
more than five he’s not a rebound
he really can’t like he’s like two left
feet you know what I’m saying I hear you
so we going higher or lower Z which
one’s the worst one lower lower I’m go
with one this is under do fantasy he
doesn’t believe in him so he’s going
lower Sunny he’s going to get a lot of
minutes you can’t be seven foot for no
reason you going to get five rebounds
he’s stiff he’s stiff though higher
higher higher those that don’t
understand higher than wait but isn’t
that his average yes that’s not higher
during the regular season but with all
the guys sitting out on vacation early
somebody’s going to play somebody’s
going to be play he’s not going to be
the only one for real one man one man B
guy he’s the biggest guy he’s the
tallest guy he’s going to get his five
and a half higher excuse me and know
higher or low I think he going to go
higher I think he’s going to go higher
that’s call now we’re going to jump
right into the shooting guards we got ex
Nick RJ Barrett he is now with Toronto I
like him he averages 21.3 points a game
be higher or lower he play for and it’s
against he he de with Zion
uh I’m going to say l o I’m going to say
l e I agree L
Sunny Diego that guy let me down with
New York so many times he’s
a don’t even that’s scrubs right
there play come some Duke and what did
he do for went over there with Quigley
and if he didn’t have Z he would was a
big trade with Quigley and when he got
there he was getting his points I think
it’s going to be higher he can’t play
the lights and I’m riding with Zeno on
this one Higher Than
21.3 because they got a point to prove
man they got to end the season some
positivity going into the summer cuz
they not in the player and he’s from
Canada and he’s from Canada oh wow with
Kelly St got right L he’s Steve Nash’s
godson or something yes still a scrub
what he’s not Steve Nash
said that that’s a lie higher
lower how is he going to be his
uh what you said what you say so being
that he’s going to be on a high scoring
binge and this is a quote unquote uh
Sunny turn binge is he going to give 4.1
assists higher or lower his average is
4.1 so he’s going to give higher lower
assist he assist yeah
you [ __ ] your face he going go higher
on assist I’m agree with Eno on this one
I think he’s going to go Allstar status
bro he going to go 21 higher but he’s
going to go higher an assist as well if
he’s going to get high points then his
assists are going to be down I’m going
to say either four or lower okay cool I
like that sunny I think he shoots 30
times and still don’t make it against
the Miami Heat defense and if he’s
passing the ball which that’s not what
he does I say lower lower on the assist
won’t pass the ball yeah yeah but let me
ask you a question who’s ding him up
Jimmy buckets that was my next category
that guy’s not doing nothing in this
game so jump so let’s finish this one
you said lower lower lower it looks like
we’re all going lower on no every and I
I went higher with Nory cuz I think he’s
going to have a good game no but Dr
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Jimmy Butler you know it’s almost be
playoff time Jimmy he averages 21.1 will
that be higher or lower I’m going higher
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy shows up Jimmy shows
up yeah he need he needs some help
though he need a little bit more help
like but he shows up Jimmy so I’m I’m I
got Terry Rosier Rosier what’s his name
Scary Terry yo scary’s help bro that guy
hit is this Jimmy with the perm or the I
need know that that’s a great
question shows up he shows up so we
going to higher low I think
everybody if he had the perm I was going
lower but if he’s higher we go higher I
got Jimmy with 10 points in the first in
the first quarter of course he’s higher
than 20 yeah higher I’m high higher put
some respect on his name so when he gets
active and he’s lit he also helps his
surrounding teammates as far as assist
is he going to go higher or lower than
4.9 assist
go but he this he’s we know that
both rap Miami Heat let’s get right into
the next one okay we’re going to do
Chicago Bulls and New York kns a class
neither one of them teams is making it I
just want y know that right now
already right and that’s why this is
going to be an extraordinary win for for
all the drink chams armies so the
average Chicago Bulls points is
11.7 whe they go higher or lower and
they’re playing in man Square Garden a
world’s most famous arena wait for and
you said Chicago Chicago is 11.7 okay
lower lower clearly lower clearly
because I’m a hater now lower on n o uh
we got the the number one Boston Celtic
fan what do you think Chicago BS listen
low listen all I’m saying is this right
Demar D rozan is going to have who dear
de Ros he’s going to have a great game
at madon Square Garden right I think
that he wants to go to the Knicks wow
what was the question 11.7 as a team
total higher or lower I’m going to say
lower I think that D Ros going have a
great game but I think everybody else
sucks on the Chicago whole Squad things
you don’t even know nobody on it but DEA
Jordan back to
be they haven’t won since Jordan that’s
what I’m saying might beef off of this
these segments I say lower as well
fan ma defense is playing a lot better
now too they have to not to mention
Brunson scored another 42 the other day
that’s right and uh efn switching up now
with the New York Knicks they go higher
or lower than 112.5 that’s their average
higher going into play stats we got
blocks will Isaiah Hardison get higher
or lower than
1.8 got it Isaiah he played for the [ __ ]
is he he better get he just came over to
the he got to go
higher Alex Caruso from the Bulls go
higher or lower than one block I like
Alex he’s good he play with the Lakers
but block and he’s not a blocker you
know what I’m saying he’ll probably get
one so no I’m so lower lower he’s not
getting any blocks I’m with Z lower I’m
not mad at that I’m with zero bus all
right now this is going to be an
interesting one assist Jaylen Brunson he
averages 6.7 assists a game now we’re
talking go higher go higher yeah higher
I agree higher higher he going to shred
Chicago’s defense High higher I know
this chick that jayen used to talk
to
say did you get her H it’s crazy oh lord
it’s crazy how
like all right Demar D rozan he averages
5.3 higher or lower assist Zeno since
you said dear I think I think he he’ll
go higher he’ll go higher he’s nice like
I’m a hater but I think he’ll go higher
yeah I agree high oh sweet clean sweet
no I’m going to go lower the last
category Chicago Bulls New York Knicks
we have demaro Rosen averaging 23.6
points a game would it go higher or
lower I’m going to go lower peely
because I’m a hater as
well I do not want them to win you have
an agenda yes I have an agenda efn I
want to hear Sunny’s take on this I
think they stop him because the Knicks
need the game way more than
Chicago they stop him he gets less than
24 he he steps up Madison Square Garden
he going to make him step up I think I’m
AG green I don’t think I don’t think
Chicago win but I think he’s going to
have an amazing game these are the type
of games that those that aren’t making
the playoffs they just want to mess
everything up they just want to show and
a few more games
vation he’s going on vacation is a
contract I’m go higher on that one for
dear Rosen as well and for the last one
the King of New York right now the king
of the Knicks Jen Brunson he’s averaging
28.6 points will that be higher or lower
higher for n how about this guy’s been I
got him at
3er we clean sweet with you higher than
uh 28.6 Underdog
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I mean we do we make exceptions time but
um sleepy Joe or crazy Trump I mean why
do you have to give those words minute
that’s how I look at I ain’t going to
lie to you man listen I’ve been on you
take a shot to hell yeah taking a shot
to that oh we say both of
neither
NE neither but let me be totally honest
because we got we we got we got the
streets watching
yes I’m not a fan of trump M because I
don’t like the way he acts right I’m not
in disagreement with all his policies
mean when I see cats out here acting up
in the streets y’all lucky I ain’t
president mhm oh this [ __ ] would be
Armageddon we not going to let you get
in the way of business cuz business
messes with everybody’s money MH we
can’t be in Cali and they letting three
people in the stores at a time because
they scared you going you know we can’t
we can’t have the National Guard in the
Subways of New York City we can’t have
we can’t have cats assaulting people on
the streets and getting out of jail the
same day we can’t list Len my body guard
is Dominican M I got I got I got I got I
got family members I my family is from
St Thomas Virgin Islands Antigua St Croy
stuff like that West Indies and I got
relatives from Puerto Rico I got I got
Puerto Ricans in
my so I’m saying all of that to say I
would never want anybody to say that I
don’t support immigrants cuz I do right
but you got a whole bunch of immigrants
that in this country that are telling
people like me we have to stand in
line how the hell you don’t have to
stand in line and how 7 and a half
million plus immigrants illegal
immigrants come in now understand what
we mean by illegal immigrants that means
you’re coming into the country you’re
undocumented so they don’t know when to
find you where to find your ass when
it’s time to pay
taxes but you’re pulling some of our
resources and so as a result what
happens is is that the American taxpayer
has to come out of pocket extra to pay
for you who came over to the country
illegally ain’t got no problem with you
coming here right but we going to know
where you at where you at with your
address phone number all that you going
to pay security exactly and so when you
have that going on and you got a
president like Joe Biden that’s acting
like it ain’t a crisis then I got to
take history into consideration and I
was on a
Patrick Bet David just the other day and
he brought this up and he was absolutely
right so John F Kennedy gets
assassinated in 1963 and Linda B Johnson
takes over the presidency because John
JFK is dead and you had a bipartisan
group of Republican Senators and
Democrats dixy crats whatever bring in
legislation to the desk for civil rights
legislation when he signed it in the law
he said
they Upp these blacks are Upp they
feeling themselves blah blah blah blah
blah he said we got to do this we got to
give them a little we can’t give them
too much but we got to give them a
little because if we give them a little
we’ll have the we’ll have the Negroes
voting for us for the next 200 years
that was his quote right so now fast
forward to the year 2024 MH you can’t
tell me that this immigration quote
unquote crisis isn’t being utilized for
one party or another to benefit from it
politicians been using us forever
they’ve been manipulating us forever and
so when I’m looking at that I’m looking
at the Democratic party just letting
cats in understanding the Mayhem that’s
in the streets and basically
facilitating it instead of addressing it
with the fervor that it deserves though
bro you remember this just a few weeks
ago $53 million in prepaid credit cards
for illegal immigrants you know how many
times black people been looking for for
prepaid credit cards reparations and
everything but you ain’t have it for us
but you got 53 million in prepaid credit
cards for cats that ain’t even citizens
in this country yo I don’t like that
even again exactly s billions billions
but the homelessness you can’t address
[ __ ] up right down the Israel Hamas I
don’t say Israel Palestinians because we
know that the Palestinians are a lot of
them are innocent in terms of what’s
transpiring but Hamas the terrorist
group and of course Israel they going at
it and all of this other stuff I don’t
get involved in all of that but what I’m
saying is you funneling money to Israel
you funneling money to the Ukraine you
fun funneling prepaid credit cards to
illegal immigrants but black people are
behind the eight ball and so for me I’m
no offici andado of politics but I’m
practical I’m intelligent enough to know
what I’m reading and I’m looking at
certain things and I’m saying wait a
minute I’m a black man in this C in this
country I understand what the hell you
haven’t done for us I know you’ve been
talking [ __ ] for decades but the fact of
the matter is our education system is
still up in smoke
system up smoke you know what opposition
in Corporate America when white folks
catch a cold black folks catch ponia
that happens to white folks is worse for
black folks the unemployment rate is
below 4% it’s below it’s it’s damn near
3 and a half% for white people what is
it for black people is at 5.6% We
bragging we happy because it ain’t
higher but it’s always worse for us so I
look at all of those things and I say to
myself wait a minute I’m not going to
ignore what I’m seeing from the
Democratic party my problem with Trump
is
this to damn petty you’re the president
of the United States of America and this
brother will go after Kathy Griffin or
Stephen A Smith or somebody rather than
rather than you know addressing [ __ ]
that really really goes on you looking
at him and it’s like come on man you
know focus focus focus you know I need
to know that if you back in that office
you going to govern the country not just
kayada who got you in are you going to
be the president to all Americans or is
it just to the people who favor you I
remember when John Lewis died we know
what a warrior he was on behalf of our
community the former rep out of Maryland
what have we know you know we know what
he meant for us okay he passes away you
don’t even want to pay homage to him
because you talking about he never
supported me you see what I’m
saying I know you gave more I know you
gave money to HBCU I respect that I know
the economy was looking good for covid I
know that you you know proclaimed to do
certain things for black folks and
unemployment rate in the black community
was was was was low I get all of that
but the flip side to it I’m looking at
your Supreme Court Justices I’m looking
at them rolling back certain things I’m
looking at people who are fantasizing
about a time that once was meaning pre
70s into the 60s into the 50s and you
down with that and what do I take into
account from that I’m looking at the
white population that was once in the
high 80s then it dwindled to the 70s now
it’s at 60 and sliding and they’re
looking at legal immigrants coming into
the country and white folks are worried
about themselves not being the majority
any longer you catering on that fear you
feeding into it which is why proud boys
and all of these other folks comeing and
say so now it’s hard for me to look at
your politics when I’m worried about
life and death situations for for the
black for black folks throughout this
country and for other minorities in this
country because I’m not accusing you of
forting it on anything like that like
folks try to blame him for the
Insurrection do I think he was
provocative yes do I think he instigated
[ __ ] yes do I believe that he called for
the vice you know you you sat up there
and they were talking about hang Mike
Pence and you didn’t do anything about
it yes but I also don’t believe you
should be arrested for it and stuff like
that cuz I believe all them damn people
out they were adults right grown they
weren’t children they were grown ass
adults who knew not to cross those
barriers at the US capital and if they
were stupid enough to do it hell with
him okay and that’s true but I’m looking
at you and I’m wondering I know people
talk about polies we want a better
economy we want this we want we want
safer streets we want I’m down for that
but if you’re the kind of dude that
would Foster and provoke
divisiveness we ain’t got time to worry
about all of that stuff when we worried
about our lives you see what I’m saying
and that’s the message that I’m trying
to his politics I would love for his
politics to be debated against Biden’s
politics who I think has been a prisoner
to the progressive left the extreme left
because that woke stuff come on y’all
you know what listen we Brothers Here
brothers and sisters blacks Latinos all
of us are in here we know how we were
raised I said it to Patrick bed David
the other day I said my mother voted
Democrat but she was a republican home I
said she was a conservative a
conservative home yep I don’t give a
[ __ ] about the laws this is the law you
will listen to what the hell I have to
he ain’t got no rights he ain’t
negotiating this is my house and this is
what you will do or else you understand
saying we understand that now
everything’s a negotiation everything’s
to be understood well you know what my
daughter I got two daughters oh my
daughter you know it’s nothing wrong
with uh uh uh uh your daughter being in
the same
bathroom with a person that identifies
thems as a woman even though they were
born a man oh yes the hell it is yes the
hell it is don’t give a damn what
anybody says now again transgender
whatever I support gay rights
transgender right all yo Live and Let
Live Live and Let Live I don’t support
nobody bothering them violating their
civil rights the civil liberties but
here’s our problem in our society that I
think the progressive left has
contributed greatly
to they want you to like it like yo
y’all no I ain’t going to no gay club
I’m not gay right but guess where else
I’m not going I’m not going to some porn
shop either I’m not I’m not trying to
hang out with porn stars or prostitutes
either who are heterosexual I’m not
trying to do that everybody got a right
to like what they like have their own
flavor and for not to not to and for you
to try to
impose that on other
people I can’t accuse conservatives of
doing that it’s the progressive left
that’s doing that so
again Biden safer because we do have an
economy that is doing well even though
inflation is bad but when I look at
illegal immigration when I look at the
violence in the streets and me being
from holl Queens taking the F train or
the E train every day and all of this
other [ __ ] and I’m seeing the National
Guard in the
Subways I can’t definitively tell you
now I can’t vote for Trump damn it I
just can’t because I think that he’s too
divisive and if I saw him I tell him to
his face and I can say that because
remember before Trump became president I
was the C person he called when he was
trying to buy the Buffalo Bills he
called me directly W called me directly
and he said I’m trying to and I tell the
story I’ve told the story on first take
I’ve told the story on my podcast step
Smith show on YouTube I told her
everywhere Trump called me in
2014 he said yo Stephen
A I want to buy the Buffalo
Bills he
said these bastards look like they’re
going to get in my way
quote if them [ __ ] get in my
way his exact words I’m not cussing I’m
quoting them [ __ ] get in my way
I’mma get them all I’mma run for
president those were his exact words and
sure enough he did it and won and won
and so what I’m saying is so what I’m
saying is I remember all of these things
I remember all of these things and I
look at things a little bit differently
you got black folks looking at Trump as
racist I remember when I remember when
Trump remember I remember when Trump was
throwing sporting events Tyson fights
and other things at at Trump Plaza all
of us were there we didn’t think he was
that then we didn’t think he was that
when we watched The Apprentice we didn’t
think he was that when he was when he
was at sporting events but suddenly we
think this here’s what I think about
Trump trump is a win at all cost kind of
dude and if I got white supremacists to
women to to black folks who are
conservative and everything in between
if that’s what’s going to get me to win
I’ll deal with the consequences later
I’m trying to get in office
he’s I think he’s that dude that it’s no
moral or principal Compass it’s whatever
it takes to win and if that’s where the
most votes are going to come from I’m
willing to do that now other people
saying well damn it if he’s willing to
allow all of that doesn’t that make him
racist nope well that depends on how you
look at how important winning is to
somebody right you know so I don’t look
at it that way I think Biden is
safer for the country but I don’t know
if it’s better better because of what he
has allowed to transpire and I will say
this said in the past by the well Biden
let’s let’s be let’s let’s go Biden’s
record on
street again I’m no off a Longo hold on
hold on hold on cuz I’m going where you
going M I ain’t no
offici but I ain’t stupid and I’m kind
of decently read you know what I’m
saying not well read but decently read I
do remember of Joe
Biden with the crime bill in the 9s I do
remember how that led to mass
incarceration black people now I do
remember the Congressional Black CA is
the one that was pushing people like him
and others to push those bills through
but I also remember Biden bragging that
it was
his and so when I look at that along
with various other things that he’s done
I understand dealing with segregationist
it was a different time 70s 80s you know
you had to work with everybody and go
across the aisle and all of that other
stuff but did you have to have those
Smiles on your face when you did it did
you have to look and seem so comfortable
did you have to you know speak so
ferous on the behalf of them and others
when you talk about
racism I hate when our community
specifically the black
community call calls out Republicans for
being racist without calling out DS last
time I checked there was a Senator that
died at the age of 97 his name was
Robert bird out of West
Virginia he’s a member and a leader in
the K Klux Clan he’s a Democrat he was a
Democrat well they were the original
what yeah yeah yeah so you go going back
to the Jim Crow era so when you see
stuff like that I understand times have
changed but you’re still asking me when
you ident ify the conservative right as
racist to assume you’re not who the hell
are you to tell me you’re not let me be
the judge of that what do you do what do
you Foster what level of dependency now
we talk about black leaders throughout
history in this country you understand
from Marcus Garvey to to to to Martin
Luther King and beyond always preaching
about economic
empowerment the Democratic party
preaches about government dependency the
government the government the government
here we are we’ll look out for you blah
blah blah blah
blah so I’m mindful of that and I pay
attention to that and the challenge for
me and I explained this the other day on
that podcast that I was on the reason
why you don’t see me so definitive and
finite about those things it’s because I
don’t know I could be in front of a
Democrat and give him these facts and
this is their position and give the same
identical facts to somebody on the
conservative side 5 minutes later and
they have two different spins right and
neither are wrong that’s very confusing
to a sports guy that gets to look at a
champion compared to a wannabe that
chance to look at a champion compared to
a contender I have finite results to
lean on when I talk about LeBron against
MJ I got finite results when I talk
about D way compared to Kobe or somebody
finite results when I talk about Ray
Allen versus Steph Curry and others
finite results politics doesn’t grant me
that so when I speak I speak with
caution because what I’m saying is this
is how it looks but I could be wrong I
don’t know but let me tell my community
what I think based on this evidence when
I see the Attorney General a sister
Leticia James in New York City going
after Trump yeah you going after Trump I
got that yeah he’s a real estate agent
that you know bloated his earnings and
his his valuation you know all of that
stuff happens then I turn it on in and I
see a real estate dude saying we do that
all the
time he he said I do it everyone does it
what is she talking about I’m like well
damn you I don’t know cuz I’m not a real
estate. guy you know I’m not Real Estate
Mogul you see what I’m saying so in
other words you find these nuggets and
I’m one of those dudes I read the Wall
Street Journal Washington Post LA Times
New York Daily News New York Times I go
online I read political and The Drudge
Report I watch Fox News MSNBC CNN news
Nation with Cuomo hell I had Cuomo
Nation comoo news Nation want me tonight
CNN want me next week Sean Hannity and I
have known each other for 20 years 20
years you know what I’m saying so I’m
like I’m getting all of this and
sometimes people are looking at me and
I’m looking at cats and they go on these
podcast or they got this [ __ ] to say and
I’m like this yeah you would think that
about me your ass ain’t talking to
nobody I talk to everybody so I’m
getting information from all sides you
say we just just today there was news in
the paper Minnesota Timberwolves A-Rod
and ownership and the deal has fallen
apart right all of this other
stuff no it
hasn’t you reading
reports I’m on the phone with somebody
reading me the contract m there’s levels
to this I saw I’m sitting there like I’m
sitting there like I’m sitting there
like wait a minute they backed out New
York Post writes there’s no deal it’s
over Mark Lori has backed out and he
doesn’t want to work with
A-Rod but the fine language
said they signed on to acquire 60% of
majority stake of the franchise for 1.5
million
billion million billion I’m sorry
billion I apologize billion they’ve
already given 600
million they don’t get it back they owe
another 300 million which they had to
give them Wednesday night
right logically you walking
away after you gave up $600 million that
you can’t get back when all you owe is
another three MH and by the way
you made the deal for 1.5 billion but
the franchise is now worth 3 billion
probably with fors next week when they
come out with their list going to be
worth $3 billion which makes your $900
million investment worth 1.8 billion you
walking away from that that report don’t
make no sense at all right y well it
does make sense to them mhm cuz they
didn’t have the contract right I have
the
contract that’s the difference so when
I’m watching cats talk
I’m just sitting there and I’m like like
they’re just talking okay I’m like you
know keep talking keep talking because
once again it’s got to be about receipts
when we’re talking about politics all
right well fine did you get a call from
the White House
before did you get a call from former
presidents and senators and Congress
president senators and
congressmen I did I think got a follow I
think he got a follow all of this so all
of this I’m sitting there and I’m like
I’m
watching I’m watching people I’m
watching people
talk and I’m like so that’s what we
going to do now we going to ignore the
fact that I’ve been around for 30 years
MH and I kind of know this [ __ ] right
I’m not talking about when we talking
about the Nuance of politics and stuff
like that I’m talking about people mhm
I’m talking about people who know where
the information is who have the
information who give you the
information do they do that I do and
that’s the difference I’m GNA say one
more thing and we gonna get back to
Quick Time Islam sure and I’m G make I’m
I’m going relate this to the most
simplest I got about 15 minutes most
simplistic form there
is I don’t know politics I’m asking you
that’s why I don’t know if you notice
something like the Qui as you as you’re
talking because I feel like I know you
say you’re not an expert but you you you
have experts breakdowns
if we was to go to war with Kim Jong Yu
what’s that North Kore Kim
Jim who is scary to me he is he should
be scary any dictator should be scary
he’s scary to me and I got to pick
Joe or Trump I feel like Trump is going
to be like [ __ ] that let’s go to war I
agree well like Trump is coming outside
Trump is actually anti-war actually but
let but Joe Biden I feel like he’s
staying home he like
but here’s the problem when it comes to
the presidency you can’t just look at
the individual you have to look at who
they surrounded themselves with yeah the
cabinet and that cabinet is very very
important because when I think about Joe
Biden I think about people like Obama
and others quietly behind the
scenes impacting decisions MH so in that
regard I trust it a little bit more okay
whereas
Trump I do believe he has the advantage
with the Fear Factor he’s a wild card
and because you know he a wild card he
might he scares you a bit more if you’re
the opposition I give him that but does
that mean he’ll make the best
decision I don’t I don’t know you said
you said Petty that’s kind of like why I
like him cuz he would go at Kim Jong Yu
and Rosie odono the same day true true
but that’s not very presidential hey man
who gives a [ __ ] about being
presidential mean on International stage
that matters I will tell you this on
International stage your rhetoric
matters almost as much as your actions M
okay because
rhetoric provokes action right okay and
for example something you may not have
known I remember when I saw um Pierce
Morgan he was on The Breakfast Club with
Charlamagne and DJ Envy um and he
said did you know that Barack Obama
deported more immigrants than Trump oh I
did not know that he did did mhm did by
a significant margin he just did adverti
it he just did it if Trump would have
did it he like I’ll sent them back to if
Trump had done it m you would have had
riots going on all over the place and
what have you because people would have
leaned on him challenging his racial
sensitivity or lack thereof because of
the way he talks and I’m saying to you
we can’t sit oddly by and ignore that
from the president that’s why for me
Character Matters at the presidency I’m
the kind of person I don’t want one
party to have any rule cuz I don’t trust
either side that’s why I’m a registered
independent but what I would do is
whatever part’s in the
presidency I would want a vast majority
in the house or the Senate we got to
have checks and balances I don’t want
the Democrats having a White House the
Senate and the Congress I don’t want
Republicans having the White House the
Senate and the Congress one of them if
not both of them got to be able to stop
your ass that’s me if Trump could come
back can Obama come back I don’t think
he he did two he did two I will tell you
this though I will tell you this though
and I want to pause for a second I’m use
the bathroom but Michelle Obama was
Smoke we need her to
run she she would win in my opinion in
my opinion she would win hands down
hands down hands down I’m at a point
right now where I believe she’s the only
one who would win and when I look at the
Democratic party here’s what em and I’ve
said this many times they are an
absolute embarrassment Y when you saw
Joe
Biden show up at the State of the Union
Address ladies and gentlemen he is 81
years old and we had a bunch of people
in there chanting four more years that’s
crazy they ain’t chanting four more
years to people in their 6
yeah but they chant four more years for
a dude that’s going to be
82 when we go to the polls in November
talking about four more years that is
disgraceful I understand he could pass
away ultimately and that KLA Harris
ultimately would be inserted into that I
get that part I want to
be and stop giggling and stop giggling
when they ask you tough questions I
respect our vice president I respect the
education Howard University grad HBCU
much love to you I know she’s an
intelligent woman she’s the former
Attorney General of the State of
California and obviously San Francisco
before that even though you were putting
a bunch of Brothers away from nonv
crimes I get all of that I understand it
but here’s the point stop giggling all
the damn time when they ask you a tough
question because it’s an evasive tactic
that turns people off because we think
you’re not sure of the answer you’re
trying to buy time that is not
attractive period but getting back to
what my point was when you talk about
Biden or you talk about the Democratic
Party
by chanting four more years all you’ve
done is
say we have no one we believe can beat
Trump all this laware all these lawsuits
and every you don’t have anybody that
could beat them you had since
2016 you had eight years best and you
still can’t beat him he had four
indictments 91 counts he’s been
impeached twice okay
he had a
$454 million judgment leveled against
him you got more cases coming down the
pike what are they doing they going
after him for paying hush money to a
former porn star so I got some ass and I
don’t want to tell nobody so I gave you
hush money right that’s why they going
after the presumptive GOP nominee this
is what we’re talking about and so when
I look at stuff like that I’m like damn
what are you doing can you beat him or
can’t you I want somebody who can beat
him I would love for KLA Harris to be
able to beat him she can’t beat Trump in
an election I would love for Gavin Nome
to be able to be the governor of
California you can’t you can’t do it you
can’t do it how about Cory from New
Jersey you know what he doesn’t resonate
I respect that man I respect his
knowledge I respect his knowledge I
respect everything about him but he
cannot he
cannot wow beat Trump in an election
and so I’m looking at it from that
standpoint and I’m like all this stuff
you been telling us you got nobody to
beat this man what have you been doing
for8 years what have you been
doing think about I got people that
rolling up on me asking me to
run you run in 2028 I’m like never I
like my life hell I want to mess with
this got no interest I don’t know why
the hell would they they would come to
me I ain’t qualified for it but then
again the other was he in a lot of
people’s eyes but I have D I have no I
respect the hell out of DL H by the way
but I think that that you know you got
to know how to smile and laugh and have
a good time you know you got to bring
that comedic side out of you if you DL
hugle because right now he’s become such
an activist that that that that he you
know you you might have white folk going
like this he’ll get in the office and
forget about us you know what saying he
a’t going be thinking about us and
that’s the problem but I respect him
he’s very knowledgeable I respect the
hell out of him but I would tell you for
me personally I’ve joke that I would
want to debate Trump and the reason why
I would want to debate Trump is because
when he’s debating you he ain’t talking
about nothing substantive he’s too busy
trying to throw insults and I’d be ready
for
that wait you don’t think that it’s such
a joke right now because both parties
serve the same interest they’re just
making us all think that I don’t think I
don’t think they serve the same interest
think interest I think they have
different lobbyist and different
interests they were they are serving and
we’re all being utilized as p
that’s theity
we’re but we but here’s but here’s where
black folks this is where we have to
hold ourselves
accountable since Lyndon B Johnson in
64 the Democratic party has received
over 90% of our
vote understand what that means on one
side you’re saying you got us we G to
support you no matter what so they don’t
have to take care of us they just give
us lip service every four years on the
other side you got a Republican party
who not only knows you’re not going to
support them but resent you for it
because you they believe you’re not
giving them they just do in the role
that they play to Bringing civil rights
legislation to the desk of the
democratic incumbent so as a result they
look at folks you’re not well read you
don’t know your history you’re
supporting the wrong party this is just
some ignorant stuff that you’re doing
and so when I’ve when I’ve spoken at
speeches I’ve said it half jokingly but
I said my dream is for one election
maybe not this one but for one election
for everybody every black person in
America to vote Republican and they said
what what why would you say that I said
because it’ll send the message that I
vote is not you have it it is for sale
it’s not you can’t take it for granted
flat made what you going to do for me
when I going to buy a house I ain’t just
buying I want to be listen I’m thinking
about being in Miami bro no state income
tax this what I’m thinking about it
right I am not buying a house without
looking at the damn house multiple times
I’m not buying a car without test
driving it I’m not buying clothes
without trying it on and seeing how it
looks on
me inspect the merchandise before you
commit we do it every day except for
when it comes to politics
we don’t do it and as a result we’ve
pigeon hold ourselves because we’ve
ensured that we’ll be a disenfranchise
community devoid of representation
because one part is giving a list
service and somebody’s saying screw
screw y’all because y’all should be more
supportive of us and you’re not
therefore nobody’s fighting on our
behalf do you realize that right now
with the immigration
crisis the Hispanics in this country get
more attention than
us Zen phobia is more popular than
racism homophobia is more popular than
racism transphobia has become or is
becoming more popular than racism black
folks been here forever and we at the
bottom of the freaking food chain
getting treated the worse getting
treated getting disregarded basically
because we haven’t created an
environment that insist upon
representation because we’ve been too
transparent I might know who I’m going
to vote for but I’ll always leave open
the possibility to change my mind just
so you could give me the effort to get
my vote before I decide which direction
I’m going to go in just so I don’t be
transparent okay I’m trying to figure
out how I’m going to take it
okay Colin Kaepernick yes sir I always
see you say that you like we been
establishing this whole time that you
have a lot of inside information a lot
of folks is not priv that information
right so is it true that it was a
workout that was called and he went an
hour away hour and 20 minutes why stupid
that’s why and and and
look when I
was show I showed up to a radio show mhm
105 I believe 105.3 in New York City
okay and some cat rolled up on me and I
didn’t even notice right that there was
a slew of them there
wearing c cap cck shirts supporting
them and I’m not going to tell you the
brother disrespected me cuz I extended
my hand to shake his hand and he shook
my hand he said but I’m not feeling you
dog he said we got a problem with you in
your position on Kaepernick I said who
got a problem with
me and his
fiance was sitting right was sitting
right in that room
like standing there kneeling over
whatever he was like so you know I mean
if you feel the way you feel you willing
to come talk to her I said right now
let’s go right and just so you know for
the record that’s who I am you know what
I’m saying you got a problem with me
tell me when and where I’ll show up
that’s how I roll if I’m wrong I’ll say
I’m wrong if I’m right I ain’t budging
it’s just that simple so we went in
there we were talking and she had her
position and I said yeah that’s what you
say m but the League say something else
she said but we know the facts it’s us I
said well it’s about them too and they
got their own facts and we covered the
league and all I see is cnick hiding
behind
you you here where he at he didn’t talk
time he didn’t talk I said his woman
speaking for him I said I’m sorry where
I’m from it don’t work like that M I
said but I’ll tell you what I’ll do mhm
from this day forward you have my number
that’s real you can text
me anything that you text to me that you
want me to say I will say verbatim over
National Television even if I had to
read the damn quote myself you have my
word you have my word so all over time
we were talking
communicating and they wanted me my help
and helping him get back into the league
I been on the record he had been
blackball it’s unfair it ain’t right but
in the same breath you got to know who
you dealing with it’s the NFL and it’s
32 different owners that the
billionaires and they ain’t going to let
you mess with their paper so wasn’t the
smartest thing in the world I’m not
saying you were wrong it just wasn’t
smart if you really really wanted to be
in the league cuz they going to do what
they can to get you out of
there so I go on the air
because we found out about that workout
right that the NFL had conducted and the
NFL conducted the workout because no
individual team wanted to because they
were scared if he worked out for them
and then it didn’t work out they would
he would accuse them of being racis so
the league at the behest of Jay-Z and
others took the position we will conduct
the workout which they don’t do they
which they don’t do the league never
conducts an individual workout for a
player right and at that time
I was told by sources directly related
to the
negotiations he’ll have to throw the
ball into the stands to not have a job
in two
weeks Wow and his
lady and him remember had been asking me
to help him get a try out with one
team I said they reporting initially his
three teams and stuff like that I said
no I’m being told 20 2 to 24 teams going
to show up and it ended up being 26 wow
I’m being told that most of the dude
showing up on the player Personnel
departments for NFL teams and they
African-Americans so you going to have
brothers looking at you at least 18 to
19 of
them and they ham in hard and then all
of a sudden I wasn’t getting no return
tax he switched the workout two hours I
wasn’t getting any return tax oh
suddenly wow and and they you know I was
on a air with one of my uh the the
opposite of me was Max Kellerman at the
time and you know he getting a text
message from them showing the
waiver that the NFL had drawn up and
saying I don’t blame him for one bit for
not doing this and blah blah blah I said
well damn it I do cuz you ain’t the only
one that got the waiver I got it too and
oh by the way were you on the phone with
general counsel for the NFL 30 minutes
ago cuz I am I was wow and they said
quote us was no offir sh M Quote us yeah
we changed the language in the waiver
because we’ve never done an individual
workout for a player before and he had
just sued us okay and we just settled
the case so why would we not protect
ourselves of course we did to change the
language to make sure he can’t sue us if
he doesn’t get back in because nobody
wants them wow but we’re willing to give
him the workout at a NFL professional
facility which was that of the Atlanta
Falcons mhm and on top of it all we’ll
give him the tape so he could circulate
the tapes team to other teams anytime he
wants wow this brother didn’t show up
and a couple of hours before the workout
moved the damn workout an hour and 20
minutes away to a high school football
stadium outside of Atlanta I said I’m
done I’m done with y’all I said you
don’t want to play you want to be a
martyr right you want to be a if you
want to play football you you at that
workout 26 NFL teams 18 of them
africanamerican showing up with all the
technological equipment that an NFL team
has to dissect and pick apart can what
you bring to the table and you don’t
show up I’m done with you you don’t want
to play you want to be a martyr okay
fine be a marter we appreciate you
taking the knee we appreciate you
fighting on behalf of African-American
black and brown people everywhere
because police brutality was is a real
thing brutality on the part of some
police officers is what I call it he got
brothers and sisters on the police force
that are black and brown that ain’t
doing that so I’m not going to say all
police officers but some of them are so
I’m looking at all that I’m like I
appreciate that but this ain’t about
that this is about you saying you wanted
to play and galvanizing folks to support
you playing you ain’t playing years yep
they want to see you work out and you
didn’t show up
I’m done and I’ve been done with that
story ever since so I’m not going to ask
you about Russell Westbrook and Y little
back Russell Westbrook I back and forth
Russell West I told this [ __ ]
about Russ
West Kyrie but it wasn’t Russell
West on the Lakers and you say you just
you down playay
this his game did I downplayed his game
oh okay okay well that to me is not you
know I I get that the back and forth
look Russell Westbrook is a real one mhm
that brother’s a real one and I what I
mean by that is he is a brother to the
core loves his people does so much great
work in the community the whole nine I
got mad love and respect he’s a real he
ain’t no fake cat [ __ ] don’t
like you you don’t know you know what
I’m saying he he real like that I I
respect the hell out of him he’s one of
my favorite people right but he can’t
shoot and damn it that’s what I said I
said it then I’m telling you now so he
don’t got a ring he I want him taking it
to the rack I don’t want him shooting 25
ft jump shot no is that a crime that’s
not a crime now me and Kyrie were
different right Kyrie that was some
personal [ __ ] that’s between he and I
okay I didn’t know that was where I
looked out okay oh and he
forgot and that’s why when he went on
Twitter last year and he was talking his
[ __ ] I was like how about me me me and
you meet one onone for the public to
spot Your Truth against my truth and see
how that works out for you mhm I’ll
never tell but pump your brakes but he
was right went too far M cuz I got mad
respect and love for the brother and it
got to a point where me and his father
was getting into
it and his father his father jumped in
tweets BL not tweet but but text
messages to my private phone all this
other stuff and it was my fault cuz I
took it a little too far with pops not
on public but I took a bit too personal
with pops and so Kyrie rolled up and
like it ain’t even about me at this
point it’s about you and pops and I said
you know what you right I immediately
picked up the phone with his father he
and his father and I met New York
City made amends we cool to this day I
apologize he apologized we grown ass man
we good but in terms of Kyrie marvelous
magician brother brother this all world
all I ever wanted from Kyrie is to be on
the damn Court cuz he’s spectacular he’s
spectacular you know I’m say I’m saying
one of the greatest talents this game
has ever
seen it’s not about taking a vaccine it
was about every time there was always a
damn excuse for something it’s an injury
this one it’s something with your
religion this way it’s the vaccine here
it’s it’s it’s damn it get on the court
you too great for us to be hearing about
you listen I appreciate the fact that
you supplied the Palestinians with a
bunch of water okay this is before all
of this stuff that’s been going on
lately I appreciate the stuff that
you’ve done for the WNBA he’s very
philanthropic he’s very charitable
Kyrie’s a good brother I even went on
the air when we were butting heads and I
said yo y’all that’s between me and him
that doesn’t mean he’s not a good
brother he is a good brother we just
don’t like each other right now that’s
all right that happens but please
understand I know he’s a good brother
Russell Westbrook don’t don’t f with the
media right you understand I’m saying
but if he honest I’ve always been feir
to Russ you know say we ain’t friends we
GNA be friends because you don’t like
the media that way LeBron going to feel
the way he going to feel plenty of other
players but most players in all
professional sports I’m very cool with
the ones that have a problem with me are
the ones that don’t talk to me because
if you talk to me you ain’t going to
have no problem because guess what I’m
either going to be right or I’m going to
wrong and if I’m wrong I’m going to
admit it not privately publicly I’m not
going to say something about you
publicly and I’m wrong and then
privately I’m going apologize nah y’all
see me do it I’ll go on the air my bad I
was wrong you see what I’m saying but if
I’m right I ain’t budging this is where
I stand and so if you one of those cats
you got a lot of brothers they chirp
they talk mm s and it’s real real easy
to talk [ __ ] about me m when you you
talking to somebody else but when you
talking in front of my face and I get a
chance to respond with my truth I asked
one simple question have you encountered
any of them that have said they’re
willing to do that you ain’t seen every
one of them because they know they know
I think that’s the reason why you and
Michael Jordan get along is because
y’all both don’t accept betrayal like
soon as someone kind of like I feel like
I feel like I feel like y the same like
when it comes to that I think that’s the
reason
why I don’t think so I don’t think I
don’t think I don’t think that’s it I
think that again it’s like yo brother
I’m not a black man I’m a brother I love
my people you know and when I think
about you know I listen I’m not anti-
anything I’m not anti-white but when I
think about immigrants when I think
about Latinos Hispanics in this country
and and black folks to me we all the
same we Brothers we in the same plight
you know and I’m always look out but
sometimes looking out ain’t telling you
what you want to hear it’s telling you
what you need to hear and you got cats
that because of that they try to paint a
picture and create this imagery about
you so others will see you in a certain
way and I’m like that’s jacked up that’s
really messed up but it’s okay keep
doing what you doing because as sooner
or as later you going to have to deal
with me mhm cuz I’m not going
away and that’s how I roll with it it’s
like you’re not going to it I remember
everything and and and like I told you
at the beginning you got cats in the
league yo bro they they they talking
about me I’m talking about Corporate
America I’m talking about Hollywood I’m
talking about Madison Avenue or they
talking a lot of [ __ ] and they don’t
know who I know and how it gets back to
me but it all gets back to me I’m
waiting for the Stephen a movie and the
documentary but let me just cuz it’s
still quick time of slime Rihanna or
Beyonce Beyonce all day okay listen navy
blue navy first of all I didn’t never
know what the hell blue navy was until
last year okay let me get that straight
secondly I want to emphasize this I love
me
some R re I love Rihanna I buy her music
I paid for it I get the [ __ ] for free I
paid for it the whole bit she’s
phenomenal okay I love her I appreciate
her the whole bit and when I compared
her to Beyonce on the Sher shepher show
that pissed a few people off oh no you
they was pissed off what happened was is
that I was promoting my book and Sher
Shepard said we need you to come on here
we want to create a first take
atmosphere so we want to create a debate
and I know that you are support of
Beyonce so feel free to bring that up
and then they talked about RI performing
at the Super Bowl and I’m like yo you
you so what Beyonce did you got to
measure up cuz this is
Beyonce you understand now let me be
very very clear was the chain I went to
the Taylor Swift concer she was off the
chain $2,000 a
ticket da made you your daughter both my
daughters made me and promised their 10
friends
$220,000 I need a drink I need a
drink but you enjoyed yourself yo bro I
couldn’t I could not believe how much
fun I had I said tlor Swift off the
chain she did she did she did that thing
yeah tell her s the [ __ ] I mean she got
that don’t mean she beyon I’m like can
we call down pump The Brak there’s only
one Beyonce right you understand nobody
in the planet of Stephen A
Smith there is no female
artist ever that has and I love to meet
some Janet Jackson Control Rhythm Nation
come on do control and Rhythm Nation I
mean play
I mean listen the queen of Mary J Queen
I come on
nobody nobody yes her to even
no ke Whitney whitne these phenomenal me
come on nobody to me I’m talking about
to me right nobody right that’s that’s
fair comes before Beyonce so it’s just
an example of what I’m talking about wow
so you the Beehive you
beehive beehive I act like that like act
like
that but let me tell you this but let me
tell you this you understand I ain’t a
quot unquote member of The Beehive but
if I was going to be a member of a hive
it would be the
Beehive
steep Listen Beyonce Beyonce is so bad
as in great right I wouldn’t mind them
calling me stepen
beith I mean that [ __ ] ain’t nobody beon
ain’t nobody Beyonce to me ain’t nobody
Beyonce y yo Steve let me just say thank
you so much um we got you everything
that I thought you would be and more you
superseded my expectations you are
exactly who you are
and like I said I can speak to you all
day this this 17 hour podcast let me
give you let me give you a props I
wanted to stay on you you know
why
because this is this should be uh a
promoted more like you know us as biging
up each other you great whether you came
in drink CS or not you great you one of
you one of the greatest out there I
wanted to thank you I wanted I was so
impressed so happy that when we finally
booked you I was like what ST we honored
to have you here I I couldn’t sleep last
night like I was just like I was because
because I always want to give you your
props I always want to tell you how how
dope you are how how ill it is and I
I’ll end it with this one story you gave
you gave me one of the most humblest
pies
ever we was in complex con I walk
through and I watched you so much mhm
that I had I met you before and I had
never met you right and I walked up with
Stephen A like and Stephen A was like
calm
down no we was in we was in the
environment I don’t even want to say to
the people that was there you know it
was a lot of big big dogs there and I
you made my fans make sense now let me
make that make sense right for years for
I’ve been famous 25 years 23 of them
which been
great but fans will come up to me and
they’ll talk to me right and what I
realized is they thought they knew me
they talk to you like they knew you they
told and I did that to
you and you was you you you almost was
looking out for me you was like you a
little too groupy out nor you a say that
your eyes did you was like calm down
calm down but I will never take that
moment back because I meant it I meant
it then and I mean it now appr it takes
nothing away from me as a man tell you
how great you are to your [ __ ]
face and mean it right it does not take
away from me as a fan I want you to
continue to do what you do if you ever
need us I appreciate on any show you got
cuz I know you got 15,000
shows and you producing shows you’re
being executive producer and producing
shows that is so dope man we appreciate
you this is supered well listen man let
me say let let me say this man first of
all I’m honored to be on the show I
think y’all do a great job I love the
fact that y’all been celebrating you’ve
been doing this for eight years um
you’ve been very very successful at it
you know you you set stage you set the
stage for a lot of people and you giving
a lot of people an opportunity to really
really do their thing making them feel
comfortable asking the right questions
and doing all of that stuff and the
biggest thing that y’all preaching about
is togetherness man listen when I heard
Kendrick and Drake and jcole I went on
my pockets and I like
yo as long as it’s nonviolent go ahead
with the lyrics that’s part of the
business the whole bit but as long as
it’s not just keep it safe and the whole
bit there’s money to be made out here
for all of us some going make more than
others but that ain’t the point the
point is we can all live well we could
always make it happen and for me
personally you know one of the things
that I do religiously is I go on a lot
of these podcasts because me being in
the position that I’m in I know when
people invite me a lot of times they
think I won’t show up but guess what
cats did it for me when I brought up
Isaiah and others and they did it for me
and the least I can do is do my part to
help and to let the world know you see
these brothers out here doing this stuff
I support them you know my style is
different from other people I’m a
product of corporate America who’s
venturing out on my own but one of the
things y’all got to remember to give
yourselves credit for and I’m not
talking about just y’all but so many
others who are doing this see the
athletes are different you had your
money and then you did it I’m different
because I had ESPN in my career at Fox
and newspaper business all this stuff
before I did it you got a whole bunch of
cats that bet on themselves and go out
there and did it and what I’m saying is
there’s a level of courage mhm that you
showed this belief in yourself that you
could do what you supposed to be doing
and as a result of that never forget
that because there’s a lot of people who
got a lot of ability but don’t have
courage and you looking at one of them
who spent years not having courage I was
raised by a mom that punched the clock
as a registered nurse and believed in
putting your head down and going to work
coming home and all that other stuff it
wasn’t until later on in my life and my
40s and stuff like that that I had an
entrepreneurial Spirit but it still took
me a while to get to that point cuz I
was an employee and they got you under
contract and they can restrict your
rights and all of this other stuff
because of y’all people like y’all
people like me even in my 50s are
gaining more courage than I ever had in
my life and so it ain’t resent it’s
gratefulness it’s gratitude that I feel
for y’all that I feel for so many people
in this space that’s doing
so much of what y’all doing I’mma get
mine I’mma strive to get mine but I’ll
be damned if I’m not going to help at
every opportunity to help others along
the way get theirs and y’all are two of
those people this team are definitely so
anytime y’all want me on I’m happy to
come a
question you said something that was one
of the most prolific things I ever
heard you said sometimes all of us don’t
got to be equal right only promised we
are only for opportunity deserving of
equal opportunity deserving of equal
opportunity yes that [ __ ] blew my mind
it’s the truth and most of us do have
the same equal opportunities we don’t
capitalize off we don’t
deserve the same equal results right you
you all of us work with people work for
people or have people under
us who either work better and produce
more
or work worse and produce less right
people who produce less and don’t work
as hard as me don’t deserve what I
deserve okay you know everybody that’s
poor don’t deserve to be poor but some
of them do everybody that’s rich don’t
deserve to be rich but some people don’t
deserve to be rich you see what I’m
saying it’s like that’s the way it is
and when you accept that what you do is
attach a level of
accountability to those that are trying
to make things happen are you really
trying to make it happen are you really
exhausting yourself doing all that you
need to do in order to achieve what you
have to if you doing all of that God
bless you more power to you what help do
you need if you a lazy ass person don’t
come in my direction I got no use for
you I got family members who lazy as
hell they ain’t employed by me the
people who are employed by me are people
I know going to work and by the way if I
see them and they being lazy they going
to get
fired period godamn it’s about
production it’s about getting the job
done because if they don’t get the job
done they inhibit your ability to get
the job done and you’re the one that’s
going to suffer you do not let somebody
bring you down you can’t bring everybody
with you AB some people you got to leave
their ass home look at them thank you
supplement them all right I’m going look
out for you a little bit try to give you
a edge up here you go and Inspire them
as much as you can but you can’t roll
with me because if I believe I’m here
and I believe this is what it’s required
I can’t have you here
especi you going to bring me down yep I
got to go fell do
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SAS is the Goat of sport commentary eventhough mosg if time He be wrong
If it weren’t for his money, he’s be real lonely. Who would want to be friends with a know-it-all
I wouldnt vote Michelle over Trump not knowing now what Obama didn't do why would his wife do better
I can't stand Stephen A as a Cowboys fan he can go to hell for hating the Cowboys but as far as anything everything else he talks about I am here for it
SAS drinking and catching second had weed smoke. I know he was doing a bunch yelling 🤣 😂 I will watch later
That was kobe!!!!
Is it just me or does Nore seem coked up?
@1:30:00 Kobe: Talk ya sh¡t, but put some RESPEK on "Mamba Mentality" !!!
Black people started thinking Trump was racist when he was asking about Obama birth certificate and academics. Also, when he didn't want to apologize to the exonerated 5.
Uhh & let's get some better lotion or Vaseline on the set …I C Ashy Elbows😂😆🤦🏾♂️🤣…We Do Love U tho', Fam….btw I'm a Sharp with no E, but we still Family…no pun intended, Um' just fun'n/Micro-Trolln' @ this point….
This was good
A nore when Ross said i know noreaga the real noreaga what was he saying?
What number do you have Kobe ???
Stephen A took over the whole show!!! 😂😂😂
He’s right it was supposed to be Melo, Bron & Wade and Melo admitted it
The fact that Stephen A would rather Newsom be president over Trump shows that he’s never spent enough time in California during his term 💯🤣
Why Steve A keep trying to keep his Lagaurdia Airport hairline? Shave your head bro.
This has to be the first guest that’s been able to keep EFN and nore quiet. They were playing double Dutch lol
How can you not like SA, this man is really basketball all day everyday even on his off day😂 NORE didn’t even get a chance to get a drink or a question in 🤣🤣
Nore those teeeth and hair aint it lol
shut up.. "blacks" treat each other the worst, how many peeps nore shot at? just shut up
Good interview!!
SAS is the truth. I enjoyed this episode and salute to Drink Champs!! 🫡
Trump got a lot of black people compromised he tapped into the CIA he got dirt on people trust me because they not fully endorsing Trump because they ain't trying to take the heat. They got people talking about politics that's not well-informed
He should have no advice for kyrie after he piled on dude and tried to ruin his career never looked at him the same way. Corporate devil will sell anyone out and that proved it not going to watch this nonsense he is to phony
He can’t do one interview with taking subliminal shots a Shannon Sharpe 🤦🏾♂️ “former athletes think they doing you a favor coming on not knowing you was number 1 before they got here and will be when they gone”. And it didn’t stop there. Why bring him on if you so intimidated by his stardom and then at the same time jack his whole style. Now you interviewing rappers etc on your podcast. You a weirdo. An insecure little man and it’s sad
Salvador Sanchez died in a car accident. Not a plane crash.🤷🏽♂️