2024 NFL DRAFT LIVE | ROUNDS 4-7 ⏰

Draft experts Michael Felder and Mike Renner break down every pick LIVE from Rounds 4-7 before anyone else.

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>> WELCOME TO DAY THREE OF THE
NFL DRAFT.
I AM MICHAEL FOULED HER, HE IS
MIKE REITER.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG FEW DAYS.
WE ARE GETTING TO IT.
WE WILL GIVE YOU EVERY ROUND
TODAY.
I AM EXCITED BECAUSE WE HAVE A
LOT OF PLAYERS ON YOUR BIG
BOARD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PLAYERS WE ARE
EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT.
THIS WILL BE REALLY FUN.
I AM MICHAEL FELDER.
HE IS MIKE RENNER.
CAN WE GET THE BIG BOARD?
LET’S START WITH THE BIG BOARD
AND WE WILL GET INTO THE REST.
MIKE: I THINK THERE IS STILL
TALENT TO BE HAD IN THIS DRAFT
CLASS.
IS THERE A PUKA NACUA GOING TO
COME OFF THE BOARD?
THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF ONE.
BUT IT WAS SUCH A GOOD WIDE
RECEIVER CLASS THAT YOU HAVE
JAVON BAKER I HAVE IS A TOP 60
PLAYER IN THE CLASS.
THERE IS TALENT TO BE HAD.
I LOVE THOSE AT THE TOP.
THEO JOHNSON IS ONE OF THE BEST
PROJECT TIGHT ENDS AT NEARLY 250
POUNDS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DUDES TO BE
HAD.
THERE ARE TWO GUYS I GO TO.
ONE IS NOT EVEN ON THE BOARD.
JORDAN HICKS CAME OUT EARLY TO
PREPARE FOR THE DRAFT.
COULD HAVE COME BACK TO SCHOOL
AND PLAYED A COUPLE MORE YEARS
AT WASHINGTON STATE.
COMES OUT EARLY, HIGH-END
ATHLETE, SURPRISED HE IS ON THE
BOARD.
EVERYONE IS WONDERING HOW TROY
FRANKLIN WHO PUT UP BIG NUMBERS
THE LAST TWO SEASONS, BIG-TIME
PLAYMAKER, ANOTHER BIG GUY,
JUNIOR OUT OF OREGON, HOW IS HE
STILL ON THE BOARD?
FOR THE CAROLINA PANTHERS, IT
WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF HE
COMES OFF THE BOARD EARLY ON DAY
THREE.
MICHAEL: WHAT WE THINK OF THE
GUYS COMING OUT EARLY WHEN THEY
STILL HAVE EXTRA TIME,
SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO
N.I.L., HOW DOES THAT CHANGE
THEIR MINDSET?
MIKE: NOT ONLY HIM.
THE POSITIONS THAT GET PAID IN
COLLEGE, WIDE RECEIVER, RUNNING
BACK, FORWARD FACING GUYS THAT
CAN GET AD MONEY FOR THEIR
SCHOOLS.
I THINK IT WILL BE A
CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD WHEN
YOU SEE GUYS LIKE HIM FALL TO
DAY THREE.
BRAELON ALLEN FROM WISCONSIN
STILL AVAILABLE ON DAY THREE.
THEY ARE YOUNG WITH MULTIPLE
YEARS OF ELIGIBILITY LEFT AND
COULD HAVE COME BACK AND
SURPASSED WHAT THEY WILL GET AS
ROOKIES, I THINK YOU WILL SEE
THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENING MORE
IN COLLEGES SAYING IF I ON THE
BORDERLINE OF BEING A TOP 100
PICK, COME BACK TO SCHOOL, HAVE
THE MONEY, AND UP MY DRAFT
STOCK.
WE SAW A LOT OF FIFTH AND SIXTH
YEAR GUYS BE TOP 100 PICKS.
IT IS AN INTERESTING
CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE THE TREND
OF FEWER AND FEWER EARLY DECLARE
ES.
IT IS GOOD BECAUSE IT LIMITS THE
BOOM OR BUST BECAUSE HITTING THE
NFL.
YOU HAVE MORE GUYS WHO CAN HIT
THE GROUND RUNNING.
MICHAEL: THIS IS 4, 5, 6, 7.
TODAY IS THE DATE YOU GET YOUR
PROJECTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE
PRODUCTION MEETING.
TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE YOU ARE
GETTING PROJECTS COME UP WHERE
YOU ARE DRAFTING TO HELP SPECIAL
TEAMS AND YOUR TAKING ON A FLYER
— AND YOU ARE TAKING A FLYER ON
A GUY.
MIKE: THERE ARE THREE GUYS YOU
DRAFT ON DAY THREE.
HIGH-END ATHLETES THAT
UNDERPERFORMED FOR WHATEVER
REASON.
THE GUYS WHO ARE HIGH-END
PERFORMERS BUT MAYBE WENT TO
SMALL SCHOOLS OR ARE LIMITED
ATHLETICALLY IN SOME WAY, WHICH
IS WHAT PUKA NACUA WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE LAST YEAR.
THEN HE COMES INTO THE NFL AND
WAS NOT LIMITED AT ALL.
THEN IT IS THE SPECIAL TEAMERS.
THAT IS WHEN THE SPECIAL TEAMS
WANT THE GUYS WHO CAN FILL THOSE
ROLES.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT.
IF YOU WANT THEM TO START RIGHT
AWAY, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THAT
WILL NOT BE THE CASE.
MICHAEL: WE ARE LOOKING AT SMALL
SCHOOL GUYS, GUYS THAT WERE
PRODUCTIVE OR UNDERPRODUCTIVE
PLAYERS BUT WERE GOOD ATHLETES.
WE ARE TRYING TO SET
EXPECTATIONS.
MIKE: PUKA NACUA TESTED
POORLY AT THE COMBINE.
THEN YOU HAD ANOTHER GUY THAT
DID NOT HAVE THE ON-FIELD
PERFORMANCE AND GOES IN AS
STARTING QUARTERBACK AS A
ROOKIE.
THAT IS THE TWO ENDS OF THE
SPECTRUM OF WHAT YOU CAN GET AS
PRODUCTION AT THIS POINT IN THE
DRAFT.
MICHAEL: WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE
TALKED ABOUT?
THIS IS INTERESTING AS WE WAIT
FOR THE PANTHERS TO GET THEIR
PICK IN.
THE BIG THING, YOU MENTIONED
JADEN HICKS.
YOU MENTIONED TROY FRANKLIN.
SPENCER RATTLER AND THEO JOHNSON
WERE THE GUYS WE TALKED ABOUT
YOU ARE SURPRISED STILL ON THE
BOARD.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT GIVES
PEOPLE PAUSE OR THE REASON THEY
ARE STILL HANGING AROUND?
MIKE: THEO JOHNSON IS A PROJECT.
WITH HIM, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
START RIGHT AWAY.
SPENCER RATTLER AT THE
QUARTERBACK POSITION, IT IS SUCH
A BINARY DECISION.
I EITHER WANT ONE AND WILL DRAFT
ONE OR I DO NOT.
THE DAY TWO QUARTERBACK DOES NOT
REALLY EXIST.
YOU EITHER FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM
FOR YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY HE IS
A PROJECT THAT YOU DRAFT WHEN
THE OTHER POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
I THINK HE IS TALENTED LOVE THE
TRAJECTORY OF HIS CAREER AND HOW
HE REBUILT HIMSELF AT SOUTH
CAROLINA.
MICHAEL: WILL LOVE THIS
EXCEPTION TO THE RULE — WILL
LEVIS IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE
RULE.
LEVIS IS THE EXCEPTION.
LEVIS DID NOT PLAY IN A DRAFT
WHERE IT WAS SO DENSE AT THE
QUARTERBACK SPOT.
I AM FROM CHARLOTTE, I LIVE IN
CHARLOTTE.
WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY DO.
I’M READY TO SEE, NO PUN
INTENDED, WHAT A HORNETS NEST I
WALK INTO WHEN I GET HOME.
MIKE: XAVIER LEGGETT, WIDE
RECEIVER, JONATHON BROOKS, TEXAS
RUNNING BACK IN THE SECOND ROUND
COMING OFF THE A.C.L., WHO KNOWS
HOW HE WILL BE ABLE TO
CONTRIBUTE YEAR ONE.
WE HAD NOTHING FOR BRYCE YOUNG
LAST YEAR, LET’S GIVE HIM AS
MANY WEAPONS AS POSSIBLE.
IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF THEY
GO BACK TO THE WEAPONS WITH ONE
OF THE TIGHT ENDS OR WIDE
RECEIVERS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT.
THAT IS WHERE I THOUGHT THE
STRENGTH OF THE CLASS WAS.
IN THE WEAKER CLASSES, THOSE
GUYS WIND UP AS TOP 100 PICKS.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT WE GOT.
HERE WE GO.
SANDERS OUT OF TEXAS, TIGHT END
THIS IS. A GUY I LIKE.
MIKE: 20 YEARS OLD.
FALSE TO THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT
BECAUSE OF HIS PREDRAFT TEST.
WATCHING HIS TAPE, IT SAYS HE IS
NOT 245 POUNDS ON TAPE.
HE LOOKS MORE LIKE A WIDE
RECEIVER THEN A TIGHT END.
YOU ALREADY HAVE A GREAT BLOCKER
GREAT ON THE MOVE BUT ALSO
UNDERSIZED.
IT GIVES YOU TWO ATHLETES AT THE
POSITION WHO CAN RUN OVER
ROUTES, CROSSING ROUTES.
HE HAS TREMENDOUS HANDS, MASSIVE
HANDS.
DOES NOT DROP A LOT OF BALLS.
GREAT IN CONTESTED SITUATIONS.
I WORRY ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO
SEPARATE.
THERE IS A DELINEATION BETWEEN
THE GUYS WHO CAN SEPARATE AND
THOSE WHO HAVE TO BE SCHEMED
OPEN.
HE CAN MAKE PLAYS.
A GREAT TIGHT END.
THEY NEED TO GIVE BRYCE YOUNG
MORE WEAPONS.
THIS IS ANOTHER WEAPON FOR BRYCE
YOUNG.
MICHAEL: I’M GLAD YOU MENTION HE
GETS SCHEMED OPEN.
WE DO HAVE A TRADE.
LET’S SEE IF LOOKING GET THE
DETAILS.
DENVER IS ON THE CLOCK.
TO GO BACK TO SANDERS, I THINK
HE IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT IS
GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET OPEN,
AS LONG AS YOU USE HIM THE RIGHT
WAY.
SAFETIES DO NOT BOTHER HIM WHEN
HE GOES.
I THINK THE NICKEL WILL BE A
BIGGER ISSUE.
HE DOES NOT PLAY BIG.
YOU MENTION, HOW BIG IS HE, HOW
BIG DOES HE PLAY?
HE DOES NOT PLAY AS BIG AS HE
TESTED AT THE COMBINE.
WE HAVE A TRADE WITH THE
BRONCOS.
THE BRONCOS HAVE A TRADE.
THE BRONCOS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE GET OUT OF THE
BRONCOS.
MIKE: I LOVE HIM TO THE BRONCOS.
HE REMINDED ME PHYSICALLY OF
JIMMY GRAHAM.
AT 6’6", ALMOST 260 POUNDS, TO
HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO UP AND
GET IT IN THE REDS ON THE WAY
THEO JOHNSON CAN, THAT IS
SOMETHING SEAN PAYTON MIGHT WANT
ON HIS OFFENSE.
MICHAEL: THE PICK IS IN.
MIKE: THEY WANTED ANOTHER
WEAPON.
MICHAEL: HE IS OFF THE BOARD.
A NEW WEAPON.
REUNITED AND IT FEELS SO GOOD.
YOU SEE WHAT HE IS ABLE TO DO.
HE CAN FLY.
THAT IS THE COOLEST THING ABOUT
HIM.
HE HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE PLAYS
DOWN THE FIELD.
81 CATCHES, ALMOST 1400
TOUCHDOWNS.
WHAT DO WE HAVE WITH HIM?
MIKE: THE PRODUCTION WAS
AWESOME.
HE HAS REAL DEAL ABILITY AND
SPEED, A FLUID ATHLETE.
HE FALLS TO THIS POINT BECAUSE
HE IS 176 POUNDS AT 6’2".
HE IS SKINNY.
YOU SEE HIM GET AFFECTED BY THAT
WHETHER IT IS AT THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE OR THE CATCH POINT.
PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT HIS HANDS
UNDER NINE INCHES.
HE ALREADY HAD CONTESTED CATCH
ISSUES ON TAPE, BUT YOU ARE
PARING HIM UP WITH A GUY WHO
KNOWS HIS SKILL SET.
HE IS A YOUNG MAN.
I DO THINK HE WILL GET STRONGER
AND HIS GAME WILL IMPROVE.
TROY FRANKLIN, HE HAS NUMBER ONE
TYPE POTENTIAL.
NOT A LOT OF GUYS YOU CAN SAY
THAT GOING IN THE FOURTH ROUND,
ESPECIALLY AS A SOPHOMORE.
I LOVE THAT PICK FOR THE
BRONCOS.
THEY NEEDED THE WEAPONS AFTER
TRADING JERRY JEUDY THIS
OFFSEASON.
YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT IF
YOU ARE SEAN PAYTON AND BO NIX.
MICHAEL: DENVER GETS PICKED 102
AND 135.
SEATTLE GETS 136 AND 227.
MIKE: A COUPLE MORE FOURTH
ROUNDERS FOR SEATTLE.
MICHAEL: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN HIM AND MCMILLAN FROM
WASHINGTON?
MIKE: I THINK MCMILLAN IS A
POLISHED ROUTE RUNNER.
HE IS A SLOT RECEIVER.
FRANKLIN I DID NOT SEE AS A SLOT
ROUTE RUNNER.
YOU DO NOT WANT HIM GOING OVER
THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
HE WILL GET SNAPPED.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE BODY TO BE
MAKING THOSE PLAYS.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE I SEE.
IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO TAKE
THE TOP OFF THE DEFENSE, THAT IS
WHAT TROY FRANKLIN CAN DO.
I THINK HE IS MORE LIMITED IN
THE ROLE HE HAS TO PLAY.
BUT IN THAT ROLE, IF YOU NEED
THAT VERTICAL THREAT OPPOSITE
GORDON SUTTON, HE CAN BE THAT.
HE IS THE GUY THAT CAN PLAY ALL
OVER.
MARK DYNAMISM TO THE OFFENSE.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE ANOTHER TRADE.
THE PATRIOTS ALREADY DRAFTED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
MIKE: I WAS LOW ON TROY FRANKLIN
COMPARED TO THE CONSENSUS.
I HAD HIM 80.
ON ALMOST EVERY BOARD, HE WAS
TOP 50 PREVIOUS STILL YOUNG.
I WILL GO EIGHT PLUS –A+
MICHAEL: WE KNOW THE PATRIOTS
STARTED OFF WITH DRAKE MAYE.
THEY ALSO ORDERED JAYLEN POKE.
WALLS IS THERE FOR THEM.
THEY ARE LOOKING TO FILL HOLES.
NEW HEAD, FIRST TIME COACH.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT AFFECTS
THEM?
DO YOU THINK HE STICKS IN THE
MOLD OF WHAT HE CAME UP WITH
PLAYING FOR THEM OR DOES HE MAKE
IT HIS OWN?
MIKE: I THINK THE DEFENSE WILL
LOOK SIMILARLY TO WHEN HE PLAYED
THERE AND COACHED THERE.
I DO NOT THINK THE ZEBRA WILL
CHANGE HIS STRIPES ANYTIME SOON.
OFFENSIVELY IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE
A CHANGE IN MINDSET.
YOU HAVE A DOWNFIELD PASSER.
THE DAYS OF MAC JONES AND TOM
BRADY WITH THE UNDERNEATH QUICK
PASSING GAME, I THINK YOU WILL
HAVE TO ADJUST.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT
RUNNING ATTACK.
YOU WILL HAVE TO PLAY MORE TO
DRAKE MAYE’S STRENGTHS BECAUSE
HE IS A VASTLY DIFFERENT
QUARTERBACK THAN THEY HAVE HAD.
I THINK IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT
AND THEY KEEP GOING OFF THE SIDE
OF THE BALL.
THERE ARE SO MANY HOLES ON THE
OFFENSIVE SIDE.
THERE ARE PLAYERS HERE.
IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.
THAT IS WHERE THEY SHOULD GO IN
MY OPINION.
MICHAEL: THEY HAVE HUNTER HENRY
AT THE TIGHT END SPOT.
WOULD THEO JOHNSON BE A FIT FOR
THEM?
MIKE: THAT IS ABOUT IT.
JAYLEN POKE, IT IS OK. YOU
PROBABLY NEED SOME SPEED.
MICHAEL: ROBINSON OUT OF TEXAS
A&M, BIG GUY, I LOVE THE WAY HE
PLAYED.
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO
MOVE YOU AROUND.
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING
FOR.
WHEN YOU HAVE A DEFENSE IT
MINDED HEAD COACH, WHAT HE IS
LOOKING FOR, AND YOU MENTIONED
YOU DID NOT KNOW IF THEY WOULD
STICK WITH THE POWER RUNNING
GAME, I THINK THAT IS WHAT
DEFENSIVE COACHES LIKE.
MIKE: HE’S ONLY 302 POUNDS.
HE’S NOT LIKE THE 330-PLUS
POUNDERS.
HE CAN MOVE AND HAS
EXPLOSIVENESS TO HIS GAME.
2021, HE HAD A BREAKOUT SEASON,
THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A TOP
PROSPECT, NEVER TOOK THE NEXT
STEP IN HIS DEVELOPMENT.
A LOT OF GUYS AT A&M HAVE NOT
TAKEN THE NEXT STEP.
THEY HAVE NOT HAD THE GREATEST
TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS MEAT ON THE BONE FOR
HIM.
AT THIS POINT, WE ARE GOING FOR
POLISHED PRODUCTS FOR LIMITED
ATHLETICALLY OR HIGH-END
ATHLETES WITH UPSIDE.
THIS IS A HIGH END ATHLETE FOR
THE GUARD POSITION.
HE COULD BE A QUALITY STARTER,
ESPECIALLY IN THE RUN GAME.
THAT IS WHERE THE POP HE CAN
IMPOSE STANDS OUT.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HIS POP.
WHEN HE HITS YOU, HE HITS YOU.
HE IS EXPLOSIVE.
HE TRANSITIONS THE SPEED TO
POWER.
WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT A TEAM LIKE TEXAS A&M
WHERE ALL OF THE PROSPECTS, WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THEM AS BEING
UNDERDEVELOPED?
MIKE: THEY HAVE BEEN PULLING IN
FIVE STARS IN THE JIMBO FISHER
ERA.
MICHAEL: NOT ANYMORE.
MIKE: THEY HAD TALENT.
THAT TALENT NEVER REALLY TURNED
INTO ON-FIELD PRODUCTION MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT.
I DO THINK WHEN YOU SEE THAT,
WHEN YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
THE SAME BOAT, NOT ONLY LAYDEN
ROBINSON, IT MAKES YOU FEEL
BETTER ABOUT YOUR CHANCES OF
COACHING THAT GUY UP, GETTING
MORE OUT OF HIM THEN YOU SAW AT
THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL.
EICHEL: ON THE CLOCK, WE HAVE
ARIZONA.
WE ARE COMING FAST AND.
.
THEY GOT ISAIAH ADAMS.
THEY GOT HIM SOME PROTECTION.
MIKE: THEY HAVE HICKS ALREADY.
MICHAEL: YOU THROW IN DARIUS
ROBINSON AND MAX MELTON, A
CORNER I LIKE.
A LOT OF THESE GUYS ARE
PLUG-AND-PLAY.
WE SHOULD BE SEEING THEM ON THE
BOARD.
WHAT DO THEY NEED?
THEY ADDED JUSTIN JONES IN THE
OFFSEASON.
THEY ADDED IN JOSH WILSON, THEY
HAVE GUYS THAT CAN PLAY.
WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR?
IS IT BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE?
ARE THEY LOOKING FOR SPECIAL
TEAMS AND TRYING TO FIND GUYS
THEY CAN DEVELOP?
MIKE: AS MUCH AS I DISAGREE WITH
SOME OF THEIR PICKS, I LOVE
THEIR STRATEGY OF LET’S PICK A
ZILLION TIMES.
THEY PICK SEVEN TIMES, THE MOST
OF ANY TEAM SO FAR.
YOU LOOK AT THE ROSTER.
THEY NEED IT.
THEY NEEDED EVEN MORE THAN SEVEN
GUYS.
IT WAS AS DEPLETED A ROSTER AS
YOU SAW IN THE NFL.
THERE WAS NOT ANYTHING TO WORK
WITH.
I LOVE THE STRATEGY.
IF THESE GUYS WORK OUT, THEY CAN
HAVE A QUICKER TURN AROUND.
MICHAEL: I LIKE THIS ONE.
I LIKE THIS PICK.
THE CHIEFS DRAFT HIM OUT OF
TEXAS TECH.
I THINK HE IS A TRUE DEEP
SAFETY.
DEEP SAFETY LIKES TO HAVE
EYEBALLS ON THE CORNERBACK.
HE’S GOING TO FLY AROUND.
I’M NOT GOING TO SAY THIS GUY,
LOOK WHERE HE IS GETTING PICKED,
BUT I THINK HE CAN DO SOME
THINGS WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE
49ERS WHERE HE MOVES AROUND.
HE LIKES BEING THE LAST LINE OF
DEFENSE.
HE IS NOT AFRAID TO MAKE
TACKLES.
I THINK HE IS AT HIS BEST MOVING
BACKWARDS.
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT
SAFETIES.
I’M GOING TO GIVE THIS A-PLUS.
YOU KNOW HE WILL HELP YOU ON
YOUR TEAMS.
THE COOLEST THING FOR ME IS HIS
ROLE IS DEFINED AND HE HAS GREAT
BALL SKILLS.
TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU
WATCH HIM.
MIKE: THIS IS WHERE I HAD HIM ON
MY BOARD, 117, ERDOGAN HUNDRED
— EARLY 100’S IS WHAT I SAW.
HE HAS REAL DEAL SPEED AND RANGE
FOR A SAFETY.
I WATCH HIS TAPE AND HE GETS
BOWLED OVER AT TIMES.
LISTED AT 190 ON THE TEXAS TECH
ROSTER THIS PAST YEAR.
AT THE COMBINE, HE RAN AT 197.
HE MAINTAINS THE SPEED AND
ATHLETICISM.
COULD HE GET BIGGER?
USUALLY THOSE GUYS DO NOT
PHYSICALLY DEVELOP.
DOES HE HAVE A FEW MORE POUNDS
HE CAN PUT ON TO BE THE NFL SIZE
AND STRENGTH YOU WANT AT THE
POSITION?
THAT IS WHAT INTRIGUED ME.
HE SHOWED UP BIGGER TO THE
COMBINE AND FASTER THAN
EXPECTED.
THAT IS A COMBINATION THAT
ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS.
I KNOW HE HAS A LOT OF FANS.
A TRUE DEEP SAFETY FOR A TEAM
THAT HAS ENOUGH STARTING
SAFETIES.
HE DOES NOT HAVE TO START RIGHT
AWAY.
HE CAN BE A SPEED GUY ON THE
BACKEND.
MICHAEL: I LOVE THAT FOR HIM.
HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLAYERS
IN THE DRAFT.
HE IS SOMEONE WE SASCHA UP, SHOW
OUT, AND MAKE PLAYS.
WE DO NOT SEE THIS VERY OFTEN, A
TRUE DEEP SAFETY.
WE SEE A LOT OF BOX SAFETIES.
WE SEE A LOT OF GUYS THAT ARE
COMBOS.
HE MAY BE THE TRUE DEEP SAFETY
IN THE DRAFT.
MIKE: HE AND CALEB BROOK.
MICHAEL: HE WAS UNDERSIZED.
MIKE: HE IS EVEN SKINNIER AT
188.
TAYLOR-DEMERSON IS A DEEP
SAFETY.
HE DID NOT ALWAYS FINISH THE
PLAYS.
TACKLING COULD BE AN ISSUE FOR
HIM.
BUT I LOVE HIS AGGRESSIVENESS.
MICHAEL: I LOVE THE
AGGRESSIVENESS AS WELL.
THAT IS THE THING I ENJOYED
WATCHING HIM PLAY.
HE IS WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOU
ARE GOING TO DO, WAITING FOR
YOUR MISTAKES.
HE IS GOING TO TRY TO TAKE THOSE
AWAY FROM YOU.
ON THE CLOCK, WE HAVE THE
CHARGERS.
WE KNOW THEY GOT JOE FOR
PROTECTION FOR JUSTIN HERBERT.
JUNIOR COLSON.
THAT ALSO ADDED — THEY ALSO
ADDED MCCONKEY IN THE SECOND
ROUND.
LOOK AT THAT, ALABAMA.
JUST INTO THE CHARGERS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
MIKE: IS YOUR PROTOTYPICAL
ALABAMA DEFENSIVE END TYPE, BIG
WINGSPAN.
HE WILL HOLD UP AND PLAY THE RUN
GAME.
THAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST ISSUE
FOR THE CHARGERS DEFENSIVE LINE
FOR SEEMINGLY THE LAST REGIME.
THEY COULD NOT STOP THE RUN.
THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH UPFRONT
TO STOP THE RUN.
YOU HAVE TO BRING IN SOME GUYS.
HE WILL NEVER BE A HIGH-END PASS
RUSHER.
THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SHOWS ON
TAPE.
HE IS A GUY THAT WILL NOT GET
MOVED OFF THE BALL.
THAT STILL HAS VALUE IN THE NFL.
THIS IS YOUR LIMITED TRADES GUY
WHO PRODUCES WELL IN ONE REGARD.
FOR THE LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
WITH WHAT THEY DRAFTED, THEY
WILL STOP THE RUN.
MICHAEL: IT SEEMS LIKE NOW THERE
IS A PLAN IN TERMS OF STOPPING
THE RUN AND DEFINING WHO WE ARE
AS A FOOTBALL TEAM AND
UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE TO DO
THIS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIM PLAY AT
ALABAMA, THEY MOVED HIM INSIDE
EVERY NOW AND THEN.
I THOUGHT HE WAS CAPABLE OF
PENETRATING WHEN HE WAS INSIDE
AND THEY HAD SPEED ON THE
OUTSIDE.
CEDRIC GRAY FROM NORTH CAROLINA,
THERE WE GO, LET’S GO.
LET ME GET TO HIM.
SANDRA GRAY — CEDRIC GRAY.
HE IS ONE OF THE GUYS WE WILL
SEE COME OFF THE BOARDS THAT ARE
TACKLING MACHINES.
HE REMINDS ME OF HENRY IN TERMS
OF A GUY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ALL
THE SIZE YOU WANT BUT HE WILL
FLY AROUND TO THE BALL.
I DO NOT LIKE THAT HE STICKS THE
BLOCKS EVERY NOW AND THEN.
CERTAINLY, WHEN HE IS IN ON
PRESSURES, ESPECIALLY THIRD
DOWNS, I THINK HE CAN MAKE
PLAYS.
MIKE: HE IS STILL YOUNG.
HE WILL NOT TURN 22 UNTIL MIDWAY
THROUGH THE SEASON.
PRODUCTIVE AT A YOUNG AGE.
I LOVE HIS ABILITY TO TRACK
BALLCARRIERS DOWN IN SPACE.
HE IS NOT A POWERFUL OFF BALL
LINEBACKER.
NOT A TAKE ON GUY WHATSOEVER BUT
GIVE HIM A CLEAR PATH AND HE CAN
MAKE PLAYS.
FOR THE TENNESSEE TITANS, YOU
HAVE THE D-LINE IN FRONT OF HIM.
YOU HAVE GUYS TO KEEP HIM CLEAN.
WHEN HE IS CLEAN, HE IS AS GOOD
AS SOME OF THE LINEBACKERS WE
SAW COME OFF THE BOARD EARLIER.
WE CAN GIVE THAT ONE AN A.
I LIKE THAT.
MICHAEL: LET’S DO IT.
I THINK THE KEY POINT YOU MADE
IS KEEPING HIM CLEAN.
KEEPING HIM CLEAN IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE A PICK IN.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE HAVE GOT.
MIKE: THERE IT IS.
MICHAEL: THERE IS YOUR GUY.
MIKE: THEO JOHNSON IS
UNDERUTILIZED IN PENN STATE’S
OFFENSE.
BUT WHEN HE WAS UTILIZED, YOU
CAN SAW A GUY THAT CAN REALLY
MAKE PLAYS, A MASSIVE DUDE AT
6’6", 259 POUNDS.
IT REMINDS ME TO A DEGREE OF
GEORGE KITTLE WHERE HE WAS NOT
UTILIZED IN THE OFFENSE.
HE WAS NOT A FACTOR.
THAT WAS NOT PART OF WHAT PENN
STATE WAS TRYING TO DO LAST
YEAR.
AT THAT SIZE, I WATCHED HIM AT
THE SENIOR BOWL, HE IS SMOOTH.
BIG HANDS.
HE WILL NOT DROP PASSES.
RED ZONE THREAT.
THIS SAYS WE KNOW LAWLER HAS
BEEN UNRESPONSIVE THIS
OFFSEASON.
MAY NOT HAVE HIM NEXT YEAR.
EVEN IF WE DO, WE DO NOT KNOW
HOW LONG HE WILL BE IN THE FOLD.
IT GIVES ANOTHER WEAPON TO
DANIEL JONES.
JOHNSON MAY NOT BE AS NFL READY
AS NABORS BUT A GUY THAT HAS
HIGH-END POTENTIAL.
IN THAT POSITION MORE OFTEN THAN
NOT, GUYS THAT OVER PERFORM
THEIR DRAFT POSITION ARE THE
GUYS THAT RUN SUB 465.
HOW DO YOU GET OPEN IN THE NFL?
YOU HAVE TO RUN AWAY AT SOME
POINT.
BIG FAN OF THEO JOHNSON.
GREAT PICK FOR THEM.
MICHAEL: THEO JOHNSON IS COMING
OFF THE BOARD.
WE ARE WAITING ON JADEN HICKS,
SPENCER RATTLER, AND THEN THE
SURPRISES WILL BE GONE.
WE SAW PENN STATE.
THEY USED HIM CONSTANTLY.
HE WAS A BIG-TIME PLAYER IN
THEIR OFFENSE.
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THEO JOHNSON
THAT DID NOT MAKE HIM PART OF
IT?
WAS IT THE QUARTERBACK
SITUATION?
MIKE: THEY WANTED TO RUN THE
BALL THIS PAST YEAR.
THE RUNNING BACKS WERE BETTER
THAN THE WIDE RECEIVERS.
THEY DID FEATURE HIM IN THE RED
ZONE.
34 CATCHES, 74 SCORES, LED THE
TEAM IN TOUCHDOWNS.
THAT IS WHERE HE SIGNED IN THAT
AREA OF THE FIELD.
— SEVEN FOR SCORES.
HE GETS TO LEARN FROM ONE OF THE
BEST, ONE OF THE BEST
DEVELOPMENTAL TIGHT ENDS OF ALL
TIME.
WALSH REMAKES HIMSELF EARLY ON
WITH THE RAIDERS.
GREAT POSITION FOR HIM TO LAND
IN.
MICHAEL: WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
VIKINGS.
THEY GET J.J. MCCARTHY.
PICK IS IN.
LET’S GO.
LET’S GO.
TYREE JACKSON FROM ORGANS TO THE
VIKINGS.
THIS GUY, I THINK HIS GAME IS
VERY SPECIAL.
I’VE PLAYED A LOT ON AN ISLAND
AND THAT STOOD OUT TO ME.
THIS IS A GUY THAT PLAYED A LOT
OF TIMES.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS
FIELD OR BOUNDARY PLAYED TO THE
SINGLE RECEIVER SIDE AND WAS
COMFORTABLE DOING IT, PLAYING BY
HIMSELF.
IT WAS LIKE AN ONLY CHILD OUT
THERE, BASICALLY.
HE HAD HIS OWN TOYS ENDED HIS
OWN THING AND WAS ABLE TO
CONSISTENTLY SHUTDOWN SHUT DOWN
THE RIGHT RECEIVER.
I THINK HE HAS A LITTLE GRITTY
WILLIAMS TO HIS GAME.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING.
>> HE REMINDS ME OF A GUY ON THE
LAKERS RIGHT NOW, CALEB EVANS.
6’4".
THERE AREN’T A LOT THAT CAN BE
SMOOTH ENOUGH.
HE IS A SILO CORNER.
YOU ARE ASKING HIM TO PRESENT
THE OUTSIDE AND RUN UP THE
VERTICALS, REACT TO HITS,
COMBATS, THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU WANT HIM TO KICK ON THE
INSIDE AND DO OTHER STUFF.
I DON’T THINK THAT’S IT.
WITH RYAN FLOREZ, WITH HIS
DEFENSE, HE USES GUYS IN ROLLS,
WITH SPECIFIC USAGES.
FOR WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE ROSTER
NOW, THE CORNER THAT IS
OBJECTIVELY NOT A LOT, HE IS A
GUY THAT CAN COMPRESS RECEIVER
THAT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
IF THEY DON’T NECESSARILY HAVE
THAT.
BYRON A REGION NEAR HIM — BYRON
OR FOOD JUNIOR IS NOT THAT.
TO ME, THIS IS A BETTER
PROSPECT.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT THE
ATLANTA FALCONS ARE ABOUT TO DO.
KHYREE JACKSON –MIKE: DUCKS
FLYING OFF THE BOARD CRACKING.
MICHAEL: BRANDON DOORLESS IS A
LOT OF GUYS.
THEY BROUGHT HIM INTO THE
SEASON.
HE SHOWS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
WE LEAD THE SHOW WITH GUYS THAT
ARE EITHER HIGH-LEVEL ATHLETES
ARE SUPER PRODUCTIVE AND I THINK
HE IS IN BETWEEN ON THOSE.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
WHERE HE FITS.
HE IS SOMEBODY THAT COMING INTO
THE SEASON A LOT OF PEOPLE
ABSOLUTELY LOVED HIM.
LET’S SEE WHAT YOU THINK OF HIM.
HIS SEASON FELT UP AND DOWN.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD THIS GUY
AS A TOP 75 PLAYER.
I WAS LOWER.
TO ME, WHEN YOU ARE UNDERSIZED,
283 POUNDS, THAT’S A TOUGH SELL
IN THE NFL.
ADT, IF YOU DON’T PLAY STRONGER
THAN THAT AND IF YOU ARE NOT A
TRULY ELITE ATHLETE.
I DID NOT CONSISTENTLY SEE HIM
PLAY STRONGER THAN THAT.
I THINK HE WILL EITHER BE A
RETAKE AND OUT GUY AND YOU WILL
NEVER PUT HIM OVER GUARD OR KICK
HIM INSIDE OF THAT, BUT FOR 85,
40 HE CAN GET OFF THE LINE, GET
INTO BACKFIELDS IF YOU WANT TO
ONE CAP HIM.
HE’S A LITTLE STIFF TURNING THE
CORNER.
TO BE A PRODUCTIVE DEFENSIVE AND
YOU NEED AND ABILITY TO GET
UNDER THE GUARDS.
WHEN YOU GET
A LITTLE SHIMMY TO THE OUTSIDE
OF THE GUARDS SHOULDER YOU HAD
BETTER BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO
THE QUARTERBACK TO FINISH THE
PLAYS.
I NEVER SAW THAT FROM HIS GAME
CONSISTENTLY.
GOES TO THE COMBINE.
PRETTY BORED TIME FOR AN
UNDERSIZED DT.
THOSE WERE MY WORRIES.
AND I SAID SIMILAR THINGS ABOUT
BRADEN FISKE YESTERDAY.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT YOU DO WITH
THIS GUY.
I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT DORLUS.
MICHAEL: I WAS GOING TO BRING UP
THE IDEA THAT WHEN YOU SAW THEM
GET THE KID FROM CLEMSON AND NOW
MICHAEL: –DORLUS HOW TO THOSE
GUYS PLAY TOGETHER?
DOES DORLUS STAY OUT?
IN THEORY THEY WANT TO PLAY A
34.
IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING.
MIKE: THESE GUYS ARE BOTH
PROBABLY STARTING — SLOTTING IN
3-4 DEFENSIVE ENDS.
294 POUNDS.
DORLUS ONE PLAY THAT EITHER.
EVEN LIKE A 3-4 DE I WOULD BE A
LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THE NFL.
THAT IS WHY HE FALLS.
MICHAEL: THAT IS THE REALITY.
WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY
WANT TO DO.
BUT WE HAVE ON THE CLOCK?
WE TALKED ABOUT DRAKE MAYE.
LADON ROBERTSON, THROW IN THE
JA’LYNN POLK PICK.
THEY HAVE NOT PICKED ANYBODY ON
DEFENSE.
MIKE: I DON’T ANTICIPATE THAT
HAPPENING.
IT WAS THE WORST OFFENSE IN THE
NFL ON PAPER.
IT JUST WAS.
THAT IS WHERE THEY WERE AT.
I LIKE THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED
TO CHANGING THAT.
DID THEY DRAFT MY HIGHEST GRADED
PLAYER EVERY TIME THEY PICK?
NO.
THEY ARE COMMITTED TO CHANGING
THAT FOR DRAKE MAYE.
DRAKE MAYE LOOKING AT THIS HAS
TO BE HAPPY WITH AT LEAST THE
DIRECTION THE PATRIOTS ARE
HEADED IN.
>> THERE IS YOUR GUY.
MICHAEL: UCF RIDE — WIDE
RECEIVER JEVON BAKER, A GUY THAT
TRANSFERRED FROM THE AAC TO THE
BIG 12.
MIKE: HE STARTED IN THE SEC IN
ALABAMA.
MICHAEL: ULTIMATELY GOES TO THE
BIG 12.
HE DID PUT ON A SHOW.
WHEN HE IS GOOD HE IS GOOD.
MIKE: LAST SEASON 1139 YARDS
21.9 YARDS PER CATCH.
FOR A GUIDE TO RUN A 454 YOU
KNOW HE HAS THE GOODS.
HE CANNOT REALLY TRY.
GET A GUY WITH A SEVERED — 837
INCH VERTICAL.
IT’S EASY FOR HIM TO GET INTO
THE AIR.
A LOT OF GUYS NEED TIME TOGETHER
BUT HE FLIES OFF OF ONE STEP.
AT THE SENIOR MOLE — BALL HE
MADE PLAYS THAT OTHER GUYS
CANNOT.
HE HAS MORE OF A VERTICAL DEEP
DOWN FIELD WIDE THEN JA’LYNN
POLK WAS, THEIR SECOND ROUNDER.
ON MY BOARD I HAD THEM BACK TO
BACK.
57, 58 ON MY DRAFT BOARD,
JA’LYNN POLK AND BAKER.
I LOVE BOTH THESE GUYS AND WHAT
THEY CAN BE AT THE NEXT LEVEL.
WITH HIM, SIX FOOT, A SIX FOOT
SIX INCH WINGSPAN MAKING PLAYS
OUTSIDE HIS FRAME IS EASY FOR
HIM.
STILL DEVELOPING HAS A ROUTE
RUNNER.
BUT I LOVE HIS FLEXIBILITY IN
HIS LOWER HALF.
YOU SAW HIS ABILITY TO SYNC AT
THE LINE AND SEPARATE OFF OF
PRESS COVERAGE COME A VERY
SPECIAL.
THAT REALLY SOLD ME ON HIM.
VICTOR CRUZ WAS AT EU DFA.
HE WAS NOT A HIGH END ATHLETE.
HE WENT TO THE NFL LEVEL AND
MADE A TON OF PLAYS BEFORE
INJURIES DERAILED HIS CAREER.
NOT TO SAY HE WILL BE VICTOR
CRUZ, BUT YOU SEE THOSE SMOOTH
HIPS.
THAT IS WHAT JAVON BAKER HAS
THROUGH AND THROUGH.
MICHAEL: WHAT ABOUT THE HANDS?
WATCHING HIM IT WAS LIKE HE GOES
OUT OF HAND SKETCHES TO BODY
CATCHES.
MIKE: HE HAS A GUY THAT CAN MAKE
A SPECTACULAR CATCH ONE PLAY AND
THEN THE BALL HITS HIS CHEST AND
BACK — BOUNCES TO THE GROUND
AND YOU ARE LIKE, WHAT?
I DO NOT THINK IT’S A BALL
TRACKING ISSUE.
I THINK IT’S A CONSISTENCY
ISSUE.
MICHAEL: THE JETS HAVE TRADED
BACK WITH THE PACKERS.
YOUR GUYS AROUND THE CLOCK.
HERE WE GO.
THE PACKERS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
WHAT DO YOU WANT?
MIKE: YOU KNOW I WANT AUSTIN
BOOKER, THE HIGHEST GRADED
PLAYER ON MY BOARD FOR A WHILE
NOW, ONLY A REDSHIRT SOPHOMORE
COMING OUT, SUPER YOUNG.
SWITCHING TO JEFF HOUSLEY’S
DEFENSE THEY WILL NEED MORE
SPEED AT THEIR DEFENSIVE END
POSITION.
HE HAS THAT.
SHOT GARY AND LUKAS VAN NESS
TURN IN THE FOUR AND FIVE’S,
THEY HAVE THE SPEED BUT NOT THE
TWITCHY EDGE BENDER GUY AND THAT
IS WHAT AUSTIN BOOKER CAN BE.
MICHAEL: THE PATRIOTS ALREADY
PICKED, WHAT, HOPPER AND COOPER.
VERY COOL.
MIKE: TWO LINEBACKERS.
JEVON BULLER.
— JAVON BULLARD.
MIKE: THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED
EDGE, CORNER, OR WIDE RECEIVER.
THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS
UNTOUCHED BY THE PACKERS SO FAR.
ONE OF THOSE GUYS COULD BE THE
CASE.
I AM ALSO LOOKING AT TJ TAMPA
THE IOWA STATE CORNER BECAUSE
THEY DON’T REALLY HAVE THAT LINK
IN THE PACKERS SECONDARY NOW,
THE LONG PRESS DIE.
OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL BE MOVING
MORE OF THAT.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HALFLY.
I LIKED HIM AT D.C. AND THAT DID
NOT REALLY WORK FOR HIM.
AT THE END OF THE DAY I LIKE THE
STYLE HE PLAYS.
IT WILL BE VERY FUN.
I AGREE.
I THINK THAT WHAT YOU GET WITH
RASHAN GARY, YOU WILL GET ONE
SIDE THAT SETS HARD ON A THE
POWER AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE
IF YOU TO GET AUSTIN BOOKER YOU
HAVE SOMEBODY FLYING AROUND THE
OTHER SIDE.
>> YEAH.
IT WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR HIM
BECAUSE THEY HAVE 3D IN IN FRONT
OF THEM.
YOU HAVE PRESTON SMITH AND LUKAS
VAN NESS.
HE CAN BE A PASS RUSH GUY ONLY
FOR THEM AND THAT’S FINE.
>> IF THEY PICK AUSTIN BOOKER
AND THEY DO WANT A PASS
SPECIALIST WHY DON’T WE KICK
RISCH GARY INSIDE ON THIRD AND
RAW — ONE?
>> HE IS A TRUE BOWL — BALL
RUSHER ON THE OUTSIDE.
LUKAS VAN NESS IS THE GUY I AM
TAKING INSIDE BECAUSE HE DID
THAT IN IOWA.
HE PLAYED LEGIT THREE TACK ON
RUN DOWNS.
IT WAS WHILE WATCHING HIM.
MICHAEL: I HAVE HAD SUCH A
JOURNEY WITH RASHAN GARY.
MIKE: HE WAS A HIGH SCHOOL DT
LIKE 300 POUNDS AND LOST WEIGHT
TO PLAY DN.
HE IS SUCH A LINEAR PLAYER.
IT TRANSLATES BETTER WHEN YOU
GET HIM STEAM ON THE OUTSIDE.
MICHAEL: RIGHT.
WATCHING HOW HE WAS USED AT
MICHIGAN AND HOW HE IS USED NOW
IT IS LIKE, MAN, GET BIGGER AND
LET’S GO.
I DID A DEBATE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ROCHON
GARY.
I WAS LIKE, ED OLIVER KNOWS WHAT
HE HAS AND WE STILL DON’T KNOW
WHAT RASHAN GARY IS AND NOW HE
HAS FOUND A ROLL AND I THINK
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT IF YOU COULD ADD VERSATILITY
TO HIS GAME THAT WOULD BE NICE.
>> THEY ONLY HAD TO GIVE UP A
SIX?
LET’S GO.
MICHAEL: THANK YOU, LET’S GO.
FOURTH ROUND PICK.
MIKE: THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A
SIX ROUND PICK TO BE HONEST,
190.
MICHAEL: 125 A FOURTH ROUND
PICK?
MIKE: 126 AND 190.
MICHAEL: MAYBE WE GET A BREAK
BECAUSE THERE WILL BE FEWER
PICKS FIFTH ROUND.
MIKE: FOR THE PACKERS, TO RESET
THE ROSTER.
THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB
FILLING IT OUT.
NOT A LOT OFH HOLES NOW.
YOU SIGNED XAVIER MCKINNEY THIS
OFFICES IN — OFF-SEASON PAIRING
HIM WITH JAVON BULLARD.
YOU HAVE A BEVY OF WIDE
RECEIVERS AND TIGHT ENDS THEY
DRAFTED LAST YEAR THAT CAME OUT
STRONG TOWARDS THE END OF THE
SEASON.
I AM OF THE OPINION THAT THEY
STILL NEED TO GET BETTER.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO REACH THE
PROMISED LAND, I GO BACK T THE
LAST TRACK IN SAN FRANCISCO WHEN
THEY WERE VERY PHYSICAL WITH THE
WIDE RECEIVERS.
THEY DID NOT RELAY HAVE GUYS
GETTING UP ON ON THEIR OWN.
I WORRY ABOUT HAVING THE NUMBER
ONE GUY RECEIVING.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF NICE
ANCILLARY OPTIONS.
WE NEED CHRISTIAN WATSON’S TO
TAKE A STEP FORWARD.
JAYDEN REED COULD TAKE THAT STEP
FORWARD.
I AM A FAN OF HIS TO BUT HE’S A
LITTLE UNDERSIZED.
TBD ON HOW THIS SHAKES OUT.
NOT GETTING A WIDE RECEIVER
HERE.
I LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
ANOTHER TRACK RECORD, THE PAST
FEW YEARS, DAY THREE HAS BEEN
GOOD AS ANYONE IN THE NFL.
THEY FOUND MULTIPLE STARTERS
THAT ROUND WHETHER IT IS ZACH
TOM IN 2020 TWO, KARL BROOKS
LAST YEAR.
I LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN
DAY THREE FINDING IMPACT GUYS,
CARRINGTON VALENTINE A YEAR AGO
AS WELL.
HATS OFF TO THEIR GM.
LET’S SEE WHAT THEY HAVE.
SOMEBODY IS ON THE PHONE IN
GREEN BAY.
MICHAEL: I AM READY.
COME ON, GUYS.
THE PIC IS IN.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
I’M READY TO SEE THIS.
I FORGOT THEY HAD A SEAN
CLIFFORD, BY THE WAY.
MIKE: EASY TO FORGET.
MICHAEL: I AM EXCITED.
THIS ROSTER, YOU CAN SEE IT
COMING TOGETHER.
THE THING I REALLY LIKE IS, I
KNOW THEY ARE YOUR SQUADRON, BUT
WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THEM IS
THEY GO SLOW.
SLOW IS NOT BAD.
I KIND OF EQUATED WITH THE
STEELERS.
LIKE IF WE WILL REBUILD WE WILL
REBUILD THE RIGHT WAY.
WE WILL FIND GUYS THAT WORK.
WE WILL FIND THE RIGHT THING.
WE WON’T REACH.
WE WON’T GO THROUGH TOO MUCH.
WE WILL FIND WHAT IS
FOUNDATIONAL FOR US.
MIKE: THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS
LAST YEAR.
THE REBUILD WAS A RELOAD AND
THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF
THE TRANSITION PLAN.
MORE SO THAN MOST TEAMS.
MICHAEL: BACK TO BACK, BRETT
FAVRE, TWO AARON RODGERS, ROGERS
TO JORDAN LOVE, AND JORDAN LOVE
DOES LOOK THE PART.
SO I THINK IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
EVAN WILLIAMS.
EVAN WILLIAMS OUT OF OREGON.
THAT IS THE PIC FOR THEM.
ONE, LOVE THE NAME.
LOVE THAT NAME.
FOR THE RECORD.
I DO LOVE THE NAME.
MAKES THE BEST EGGNOG.
EVAN WILLIAMS.
HE IS A TACKLING MAN.
80 PLUS TACKLES, FIVE SACKS.
FIVE SACKS AS A SAFETY.
HE GETS DOWNHILL IN A HURRY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE
ON HIM.
THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT FOR ME I
LOVE WATCHING HIM PLAY.
MIKE: I WENT TO THE SENIOR BOWL
AND WAS IMPRESSED WITH HIS
PERFORMANCE.
HE WAS NAMED BY HIS TEAMMATES
THE DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK
FROM ONE OF THE SQUADS, I CAN’T
REMEMBER WHICH.
A GUY WHOSE SMALL FRAME, REALLY
TINY.
ONLY A SIX FOOT WINGSPAN.
GREAT AROUND THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE.
TRULY.
BOX SAFETY.
COULD BE LIKE A DIME BACK IN A
DEFENSE.
THAT’S WHEN HE IS AT HIS BEST.
NOT A GUY I TRUST IN COVERAGE
NECESSARILY, THE PACKERS ARE
LOOKING FOR BOTH.
THIS IS A GUY THAT CAN FILL,
LIKE YOU SAID, THE DIAMONDBACK
ROLE.
THAT IS WHERE HE IS BEST.
YOU ARE PLAYING HIM DEEP.
I THINK YOU COULD BE EXPOSED.
A 40.5 INCH VERTICAL, FOUR 640.
A LITTLE LOWER ON MY BOARD.
FOR THIS PICK, YOU SAW IT
YESTERDAY, THE PACKERS ARE
DRAFTING A SPECIAL TEAM WITH
TYRON HOPPER.
THEY ARE DRAFTING A BACKUP
RUNNING BACK IN THE THIRD ROUND.
THEY MUST NOT THINK SUPER HIGHLY
OF THE CLASS BECAUSE THEY ARE
DRAFTING GUYS FOR SPECIFIC ROLES
IN THE DEFENSE.
>> I WILL GO ON IN MINUS ON THIS
AND HERE IS WHY.
AHMAD DIXON CAME OUT OF BAYLOR.
THIS GUY FLIES AROUND, MAKING A
TON OF TACKLES.
HE WANTS TO HIT YOU.
HE WANTS TO BE VIOLENT.
THAT’S A BIG PART OF HIS GAME SO
I AM GOING WITH THAT.
MIKE: HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE
COMING OFF THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: SHOW IT TO ME.
MIKE: I CAN ANNOUNCE IT.
RICHARDSON I THINK TO THE LAS
VEGAS RAIDERS.
MICHAEL: LET’S SAY — C.
MIKE: YOUR BOY.
MICHAEL: RICHARDSON, HERE WE GO.
MY GOSH, DECAMERON RICHARDSON.
I THINK HE IS GOOD OFF CORNER.
WE DON’T GIVE HIM NEARLY ENOUGH
CREDIT.
FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT OFF COVERAGE
BUT OFF COVERAGE CAN WORK.
I THINK HE IS IN OFF CORNER.
YOU CAN ALSO HELP IN SECONDARY
RUN SUPPORT.
IS IT BEST TRAIT IS TO REACT TO
THE BALL QUICKLY IN OFF
COVERAGE.
HE HAS A FLATFOOT READ I REALLY
ENJOYED.
HE CANNOT MAKE THE TACKLE AND
MINIMIZE GAIN AND I LIKE THAT.
MIKE: 43 440 AND AN AWESOME
TACKLER.
THE GUYS COMING OFF THE BOARD,
TELLS WALKER.
MICHAEL: WALKER IS GOING TO
THE RAVENS.
WALKER TO THE RAVENS.
THE RAVENS KNOW THEY NEEDED TO
ADD MORE HELP OUTSIDE.
THEY ARE GETTING A WIDE RECEIVER
IN DEVONTA SMITH WALKER –OVER
TEZ WALKER WHO WENT THROUGH A
LOT TO GET THE PLAY, THE KENT
STATE TRANSFER, HE CAN TAKE THE
TOP OFF DEFENSE, HE’S A VERTICAL
THREAT.
HE IS A TRUE VERTICAL THREAT.
HE HAS MET COLLINS ENERGY.
I THINK HE’S A BIGGER VERSION OF
THAT.
I LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING
GETTING TEZ WALKER.
MIKE: HE HAS JUICE.
AND ALSO A MASSIVE WINGSPAN.
79 AND AN EIGHTH INCH WINGSPAN,
6’7".
MAKES PLACE OUTSIDE HIS FRAME,
BUT VERY INCONSISTENT HANDS.
THAT IS WHY HE FALLS TO THIS
POINT IN THE DRAFT AND THAT’S
WHY I HAD HIM LOW ON THE BOARD,
EVEN WHERE HE — LOWER THAN
WHERE HE COMES OFF THE BOARD
HERE.
BECAUSE, I HATE DEEP THREADS
THAT DROP EASY ONES.
THERE IS NO BIGGER BLOW TO AN
OFFENSE OF PSYCHE THEN HAVE A
COBOL EASY WALKING TOUCHDOWN
FUMBLE THROUGH THE BAG.
THAT IS WHAT YOU SAW LAST WEEK.
HE HAD THE MOST DROPS OF ANYONE
DURING THE CEDAR BALL.
NOT A COMPLETE ROUTE RUNNER BUT
FOR THE RAVENS OFFENSE YOU HAVE
LAMAR JACKSON.
YOU HAVE DYNAMITE OUTSIDE IN
FLOWERS, BREMEN, TWO GUYS THAT
WERE LOW FOR TYPE WIDE
RECEIVERS.
WHEN YOU PLAY LAMAR JACKSON OR
HAVE DERRICK HENRY IT BRINGS
PEOPLE TO THE BOX.
OBJECTIVELY IT LEAVES YOU ON THE
OUTSIDE.
IF YOU IGNORE HIM WITH A SLOWER
CORNER TOVER THE TOP.
>> JEVON WALKER IS GOING TO THE
JAGS GIVEN MORE HELP TO GET
TREVOR LAWRENCE WHERE HE WANTED
TO BE.
>> IT IS INSURANCE.
TO ME, HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST
SWING TACKLE PROJECTIONS IN THIS
DRAFT CLASS.
I AM NOT SURE IF HE IS A GUY
THAT WOULD START FOR ME.
I WOULD NEVER FEEL FANTASTIC
ABOUT THAT.
A THREE YEAR STARTER AT MISS YOU
IN THE SEC PLAYING TOP
COMPETITION, NEVER HAD A GAME
WHERE HE GOT EXPOSED.
HE WAS NOT CONSISTENTLY DOMINANT
BY ANY STRETCH OF THE
IMAGINATION.
WITH 34 AND 5/8 INCH ARMS AND
6’5", HE NEVER WAS DOMINATED AND
THAT HAS VALUE.
THE ABILITY TO HAVE A GUY THAT
CAN PLAY LEFT OR RIGHT SIDE AND
GIVE YOU ADEQUATE TACKLE.
OBVIOUSLY INJURIES WILL ALWAYS
STARK.
THEY HAVE NICE TACKLE ROOM
ALREADY WITH ANTON HARRISON.
YOU HAVE WALKER LITTLE AS YOUR
SWING BACK NOW.
AND AGAIN YOU HAVE TREVOR
LAWRENCE.
YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE
FRANCHISE.
THIS IS JUST INSURANCE.
YOU ARE AT A POINT IN THE DRAFT
WHERE IT IS NICE TO FIND A GUY
THAT CAN STEP ON THE FOOTBALL
FIELD FOR YOU AS OFFENSIVE
TACKLE.
BIG FAN OF THIS PICK.
MICHAEL: WHEN I THINK HELP US I
AM SAYING HELP US NOT GET OUR
QUARTERBACK DESTROYED IF
SOMEBODY GOES DOWN AND THAT IS
VERY IMPORTANT.
THE BENGALS TICKETS IN.
MIKE: COMING IN HOT.
MICHAEL: ERIC AULT, MICHIGAN BY
WAY OF IOWA, TIGHT END.
THIS KID IS GETTING A NEW
WEAPON.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY ALREADY HAVE
JUST PSYCHE.
I THOUGHT THAT ERICK ALL WAS A
GOOD PLAYER.
HE PLAYED AT TWO SCHOOLS.
HE DID NOT REALLY DO.
MIKE: HE DID NOT GET FEATURED IN
MICHIGAN AT ALL AND THIS PAST
SEASON HE TRANSFERS TO IOWA AND
FALLS OUT OF FAVOR VIA INJURY.
HE DOES NOT PLAY MUCH.
WHEN HE DID HE WAS VERY
PRODUCTIVE WITH 299 YARDS ON
ONLY 121 PASS ROUTES.
ON THE FIELD, HE WAS VERY
PRODUCTIVE.
HE IS A GUY THAT GOT BANGED IT
UP AND DID NOT DO ANY PREDRAFT
TESTING, BUT I THINK HE ADDS A
LITTLE BIT AFTER THE CATCH WITH
MIKE JUST PSYCHE WHO IS NOT A
YAK DUDE.
THIS GUY CAN ACTUALLY CREATE A
LITTLE BIT ON THE GO.
AFTER THE INJURIES HE HAS HAD
YOU COULD BE BUYING LOW HERE.
I KNOW PEOPLE WERE HIGHER ON HIM
HAVING THEM — HIM IN THEIR TOP
75.
MICHAEL: INTERESTING.
WHEN I LOOK AT HIM AND WHAT THEY
HAVE NOW, THEY ADDED GERMANE
BURDEN AS WELL.
IT WAS EARLIER THAT THEY ADDED
HIM.
LOOK AT THIS.
WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT ERICK
ALL CAN EARN.
THE JAGS PICK IS IN.
LSU.
JORDAN JEFFERSON.
NOT JUST IN.
JORDAN JEFFERSON TO THE JAGS.
AGAIN, MORE INSURANCE THAT YOU
MENTIONED.
MIKE: HE IS A BIG LONG DT.
HE WON’T BE A PASS RUSHER.
HE IS AN OLDER GUY COMING OUT, A
FIFTH-YEAR DUDE.
HE IS A NICE TWO GAP RUN
DEFENDER.
THEY ARE JUST ADDING TO THE
INTERIOR OF THE DEFENSIVE LINE,
KIND OF JUST A SAFE PICK AT THIS
POINT IN THE DRAFT AND I DON’T
THINK HE IS TOO MUCH TO GET
EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAD HIM
IN THIS RANGE IN THE 150 SPOT.
MICHAEL: WHERE DOES HE FIT IN
THE PANTHEON OF SWEAT, MURPHY?
HOW GOOD CAN HE BE SITTING IN —
FITTING IN AS A BIG DEFENSIVE
TACKLE?
MIKE: THEY JUST DRAFTED HIS
TEAMMATE MAASON SMITH, DAVON
HAMILTON, ROY ROBERTSON-HARRIS,
HE IS SLOTTING IN BEHIND THE
GUYS AT THIS POINT.
IT’S A ROTATIONAL PIECE.
MICHAEL: HE WILL TRY TO HELP YOU
STOP THE RUN.
MIKE: YES, RUN DEFENDER.
HE WAS A FOUR YEAR PLAYER AT
WEST VIRGINIA AND TRANSFERRED
HIS LAST YEAR TO LSU.
AGAIN, NOT MUCH PRODUCTION, 10
CAREER SACKS AND THREE YEARS AS
A START.
MICHAEL: THE COLTS ARE ON THE
CLOCK.
WE ARE WATCHING THEM.
THIS GUY.
LET’S GO.
LET’S GO.
I LIKE THE EFFORT.
IT IS GOOD.
YOU DON’T GET THAT OUT OF EVERY
DEFENSIVE TACKLE.
THAT’S POSITIVE.
IF HE GIVES YOU THAT EFFORT
EVERY DAY IN PRACTICE I THINK
YOU WILL HAVE A GUY THAT WILL
FIND A WAY TO KEEP PLAYING
FOOTBALL.
THE COLTS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
THEY TOOK YOUR GUY.
MIKE: I LOVE THE COLD DRAFT.
MICHAEL: 80 MITCHELL MIKE:.
MIKE:HIGHLIGHTS THE DRAFT.
IN TERMS OF THEIR OFFENSIVE
LINEMAN, I THINK THAT LATU AND
MITCHELL, IT IS HARD TO
CALL LATU A STEEL THAT I THOUGHT
HE WAS IN THE CONVERSATION FOR
BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE
DRAFT CLASS WHO COULD RIGHT AWAY
DAY ONE MAKE AN IMPACT.
WHERE THEY ARE AT WITH THE YEAR
TWO, YEAR THREE, YOU WANT A GUYT
CAN BE THERE RIGHT AWAY.
AS I SAID YESTERDAY, ALL OF A
SUDDEN THE ROSTER LOOKS NIGHTS
— NICE.
THEY WON GAMES LAST YEAR WITHOUT
ANTHONY RICHARDSON AS
QUARTERBACK.
I AM A FAN OF THIS.
MICHAEL: THEY NEED A HEALTHY
ANTHONY RICHARDSON OBVIOUSLY.
THEY STILL HAVE JOE FLACCO.
THEY HAVE QUENTON NELSON.
RYAN KELLY.
HE HAS KIND OF LONG IN THE
TOOTH, BUT STILL THERE.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE
THEY HAVE TO PROTECT THEIR
QUARTERBACK.
THE QUARTERBACK HAS TO MAKE
DECISIONS ABOUT PROTECTING
HIMSELF.
NOW, YOU HAD IN A.D. MITCHELL TO
MICHAEL PIT AND AND YOU HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE BIG ARM
DOWN THE FIELD.
PICK IS IN.
LET’S SEE.
WISCONSIN CENTER TANNER BARDA
LEANING — PRECISELY THEIR TYPE.
UNDERSIZED CENTERS THAT ARE
HIGHLY ATHLETIC.
THIS GUY CAN FIVE — FLY.
HE NEEDS TO GET STRONGER.
64 — 6’4" 303 AND HE LOSES
CONTROL OF BLOCKS WHEN GUYS GET
TO THE SIDE OF HIM.
HE STRUGGLES TO RECOVER BECAUSE
HIS UPPER BODY STRENGTH IS NOT
AT THE NFL LEVEL.
THEY WILL WANT TO GET THE
OFFENSIVE LINE ON THE MOVE AND
THIS GUY CAN FLAT OUT MOVE.
ONE OF THE BEST ATHLETES.
MICHAEL: I LITERALLY SAID RYAN
KELLY IS GETTING LONG IN THE
TOOTH AND THEY GO GET A CENTER.
OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT THERE IS
A DISCUSSION OF WISCONSIN GUYS
AND HOW THEY PERFORM.
AND HE’S NOT YOUR PROTOTYPE
WISCONSIN GUY IN TERMS OF SIZE.
BUT HONESTLY, IT FEELS LIKE OLD
SCHOOL.
LIKE FIVE OR 10 YEARS AGO, THE
TYPE OF CENTER THAT IS USUALLY
THE SMALLEST GUY ON THE
OFFENSIVE LINE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
THE CENTERS ARE GETTING BIGGER
AND BIGGER.
THIS IS A THROWBACK TO A GUY
THAT IS A TRUE TECHNICIAN.
MIKE: TANOR BORTOLINI 31.5 INCH
ARMS, BELOW WHERE YOU WANT THEM
TO BE.
16 810’S PLATE, FOUR TO SHORT
SHUTTLE, INSANE NUMBER.
7163 WAS THE NFL RECORD FOR
INTERIOR OFF THE COMBINE.
27 FRENCH PRESS REPS SINCE PRO
DAY AND A 32.5 INCH VERTICAL.
THIS GUY IS MOVING.
MICHAEL: HE IS A PLAYER.
I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
AT TIMES IS A CLICHÉ.
BUT IF YOU CONSISTENTLY PLAY,
YOU WILL BE ONE OF THOSE GUYS.
TANOR BORTOLINI TURNS 21 LATER
IN THE OFF-SEASON.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOMINIC
PUNIC DRAFTED YESTERDAY, AND HE
IS 24.
MICHAEL: CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT
THAT MEANS AND WHY DO SOMETHING
YOU BRING UP?
MIKE: OFFENSIVE LINE ESPECIALLY
AS A PLACE STRENGTH POSITION.
GUYS COME OVER THE COURSE OF
THEIR COLLEGIATE CAREERS, YOU
SEE THEM GET BETTER BECAUSE THEY
GET STRONGER.
OFTEN THEY HAVE THAT DOMINANCE.
IT JUST TAKES A HIGH LEVEL OF
STRENGTH THAT CAN ONLY BE
DEVELOPED THROUGH YEARS IN A
WHITE ROOM.
— WEIGHT ROOM.
TWITCH AND QUAKES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT ARE OFTEN INNATE.
GUYS CAN GET STRONGER.
SOMETIMES ILLEGALLY.
ADMITTEDLY.
ALSO SOMETIMES JUST THROUGH HARD
WORK.
YOU CAN PUT ON MUSCLE MASS IF
YOU ARE DEDICATED TO DOING SO.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT A LOT OF TIME
AT THE NFL LEVEL.
WHEN YOU ARE 21 AND HAVE PLACE
STRENGTH ISSUES, IT’S A
DIFFERENT ANIMAL FROM A GUY THAT
IS 24 AND YOU ARE LIKE, MAN, HE
HAS PLACE STRENGTH ISSUES.
THAT IS THREE YEARS IN A WEIGHT
ROOM OR THAT THAT GUY HAS
ALREADY HAD AND NOT FIGURED IT
OUT.
TANOR BORTOLINI COULD IN TIME TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND THAT IS WHAT
YOU ARE BANKING ON WITH THIS
PICK.
MICHAEL: GOING TO THE SEAHAWKS.
TYRICE KNIGHT.
MIKE: THIS GUY PLAYED SOME GOOD
BALL LAST YEAR.
HE HAD THE MOST OPS IN COLLEGE
FOOTBALL LAST YEAR IN A
LINEBACKER POSITION.
HE FLEW AROUND THE FIELD AND I
LIKE HIS TRAITS.
SIX FEET, A SIX FOOT WINGSPAN,
LONG ARMS.
NOT GREAT TAKING ON BLOCKS BUT
HE HAS THE LINK TO DO SO.
YOU SAW THAT AT TIMES.
HE STILL NEEDS TO GET STRONGER.
230 THREE POUNDS IS THE BIGGEST
ASPECT TO HIS GAME THAT WORRIES
ME.
HIS INSTINCTS I WAS IMPRESSED
WITH ON TAPE.
YEAH, I LIKE THIS PICK A LOT
FROM THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS.
THEY LOST A LINEBACKER THIS
OFF-SEASON.
RELOADING THAT POSITION.
I THINK HE IS A GUY THAT COULD,
THEORETICALLY AS A SIX-YEAR GUY
COMING OUT, START RIGHT AWAY IF
THEY REALLY NEED IT.
MICHAEL: SUPER TRADITIONAL
LINEBACKER THAT IS A SCRAPER
THAT JUST DOES HIS JOB EVERY
PLAY.
140 TACKLES.
HE SEEMS LIKE A SMALLER VERSION,
A THINNER VERSION OF CHRISTIAN
KIRKSEY.
SOMEBODY THAT YOU KNOW EVERY
PLAY WILL BE IN THE GAP WHERE HE
IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT —
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON’T
THINK PEOPLE THINK ABOUT A LOT.
BUT, IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE A
PLAYER THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT.
WATCHING HIM, HE IS NEVER A
LIABILITY.
MIKE: IS HIGHLIGHTS ARE REAL
PLAYS IN THE BACKFIELD.
MICHAEL: HE IS REALLY GOOD
AGAINST THAT LEVEL OF
COMPETITION.
MIKE: 4-6-THREE TRACKING DOWN
RUNNING BACKS LIKE THIS IN
SPACE.
YOU SEE THAT AND YOU ARE LIKE,
THAT’S A LOT OF PLAY — THAT’S A
PLAY A LOT OF DUDES AREN’T EVEN
MAKING IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW.
LINEBACKERS ON CATCHING UP TO
THAT RIGHT NOW IN IS NFL
STARTING.
MICHAEL: HE FITS IN THAT SAME
ROLE.
DERRIUS LEONARD IS A GOOD ONE.
THAT IT’S A GUY THAT DID NOT
PLAY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
BUT HE PROVED THAT HE COULD GET
IT DONE.
MIKE: NICE.
I AM GLAD HE WENT OFF THE BOARD
HERE.
THAT IS THE EVAL I HAD ON HIM
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN’T HIGH
ON THIS GUY.
I AM A FAN FOR SURE.
MICHAEL: I DID CAM.
AS I SAID BEFORE, HE DOES — I
DIG HIM.
I ASSUME THIS KID GRADES OUT
EVERY GAME VERY HIGH.
MIKE: MIKE: AT LINEBACKER IN THE
NFL NOWADAYS IT’S ALMOST LIKE
THE QUARTERBACK OF DEFENSE IN
TERMS OF THE LEARNING CURVE.
YOU HAVE SO MUCH ON YOUR PLATE.
IT IS WHY WE SEE GUYS LIKE
QUINCY WILLIAMS.
GUYS IN RECENT YEARS THAT DON’T
FIGURE IT OUT UNTIL YEAR FOUR OR
YEAR FIVE.
YOU NEED WRAPS.
YOU NEED TO SEE STUFF DEVELOP IN
FRONT OF YOU BEFORE YOU HAVE THE
PROCESSING SPEED TO KNOW WHERE
THINGS ARE GOING AND GET THERE
BEFORE THE PLAY DEVELOPS.
WHEN YOU ARE DRAFTING ONE YEAR
STARTERS THAT ARE HIGH UPSIDE
PROJECTIONS, SOMETIMES, IT TAKES
THEM FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
IT IS A DIFFICULT POSITION.
IT’S NOT JUST YOUR TWO
BREAKOUTS.
SOMETIMES IT IS THE YEAR FOUR
BREAKOUT OR THAT YOU’RE NEVER
BREAK OUT.
YOU COULD TALK YOURSELVES INTO
KENNETH MURRAY’S AND THEIR
ENTIRE ROOKIE CONTRACT CAN PUT
YOU BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
I TEND TOWARDS GUYS THAT HAVE
ALREADY PLAYED A TON OF FOOTBALL
AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL AS A
LINEBACKER AND HAVE ALREADY
PROVEN THEY HAVE FOOTBALL AND
STICKS.
2 — FOOTBALL INSTINCTS.
THOSE GUYS CAN PLAY RIGHT AWAY.
MAYBE THEY WON’T HIT AT AN ALL
PRO BOWL LEVEL BUT YOU NEED GUYS
DRAFTED THAT YOU CAN EXPECT THEM
TO PLAY AND BE ABLE TO SEE THE
FOOTBALL FIELD.
AND I THINK THAT TYRICE KNIGHT
WILL SEE THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
MICHAEL: HE SEES THE FIELD AND
MOVES SIDE TO SIDE VERY WELL.
HE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO MOVE OVER
THE TOP.
HE KEEPS HIS HEAD BEHIND THE
FOOTBALL.
WE SAW HIM MAKE PLACE BEHIND THE
LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
IT’S NOT A GUY DRAGGING PEOPLE
DOWN.
HE IS TRYING TO BRING THE
THUNDER TO THE GAME.
THE STEELERS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
ZACH FRAZIER, ROBIN WILSON, WHO
ELSE?
PEYTON WILSON.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT PAYTON WILSON?
MIKE: I THINK THEY HAVE HAD MY
FAVORITE DRAFT SO FAR OF ANYONE.
OBVIOUSLY SOME TEAMS HAVE HAD A
BIGGER IMPACT.
THE BEARS PROBABLY HAD THE
BIGGEST OF ANYONE.
WITH PICK 20, PAYTON WILSON,
THEN, MAN, MASON MCCORMICK, A
TOP HUNDRED GUY ON MY BOARD AT
87, 1 OF THE TOP 10 AVAILABLE
FOR ME GETTING ALL THE WAY DOWN
HERE.
PFS.
WE DID STUDIES ON WHICH
POSITIONS WANT TO DRAFT HIGH END
ATHLETES TO DEVELOP.
WHICH POSITIONS TWO GUYS THAT
HAVE GOOD COMBINE TESTING THAT
MAY BE UNDERPERFORMED OR WERE
SEEN AS PROJECTS IN COLLEGE,
WHICH POSITION DO THEY TRANSLATE
TO IN THE NFL?
IT WAS EDGE.
IT WAS CORNER AND IT WAS
INTERIOR OFFENSE OF LINE,
SURPRISINGLY.
IT IS A POSITION THAT ONCE YOU
GET TO THE NFL, IF YOU CAN GET
PLAY STRENGTHS UP, NFL DTS ARE
QUICK.
MICHAEL: THEY ARE.
MIKE: IT IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL
COLLEGE VERSUS THE NFL.
NFL DTS ARE TESTING YOU
LATERALLY COME HOW QUICK YOU CAN
HIT IT OFF THE LINE AND REACT
AND THIS GUY IS A QUICK LATERAL.
HE IS A HIGH-END ATHLETE THAT
RAN A 4-5 SHORT SUBTLE — SHORT
SHUTTLE.
THE TRACK RECORD OF THOSE GUYS
IS HIGH AT THE NEXT LEVEL IN HOW
THEY DEVELOP.
35.5 INCH VERTICAL FOR A 309
POUNDER, AN ELITE NUMBER AT THAT
POSITION.
I THOUGHT HE WENT TO THE SHRINE
BALL AND SHOWED UP SLOW.
I THINK THIS GUY IS A FUTURE
STARTER.
NOT A ONE.
BUT, THEY DON’T NEED HIM TO BE A
DAY ONE STARTER.
I LOVE THIS PICK.
MY LORD, THE STEELERS ARE
CRUSHING.
CRUSHING THE DRAFT.
MICHA A TRAIT HAPPENED.
WE HAVE LAIATU LATU AND FRAZIER
AND THEY ARE COMMITTED TO
GETTING BACK INTO RUNNING THE
FOOTBALL.
WHEN YOU HAVE NAJEE HARRIS FOR
AT LEAST THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WHY
WOULD YOU NOT BE COMMITTED TO
MAKING THAT A HUGE PART OF IT?
MIKE: ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS AN
ATHLETIC OFFENSE OF LINE.
THINK BACK TO 2015, 2016.
THAT WAS A GAP SCHEME.
THEY WERE RUNNING DELO.
THEY WERE RUNNING POWER.
THEY WERE MOVING PEOPLE OFF THE
LINE.
ARTHUR SMITH RUNS OUTSIDE ZONE
UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME.
THEY WILL TEST ATHLETICISM OF
YOUR LINEBACKERS.
ALL THESE GUYS NOW UP FRONT.
LAIATU LATU, ZACH FRAZIER, JAMES
DANIELS, RODERICK ZONE — ROBERT
JONES, AN OUTSIZED ZONE OFF THE
LINE.
THEY GOT ALL THESE GUYS, VALUE
PICKS EVERYONE.
TO THE CAP.
OMAR KHAN.
MY FAVORITE DRAFT AND IT KEEPS
GETTING BETTER.
CCC CHOP ROBINSON FIRST ROUND,
PATRICK PAUL THE ONLY PICKED A
TWO.
WE MICHAEL: ARE LOOKING TO
MICHAEL: SEE WHAT THEY WOULD DO.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY NEED
RIGHT NOW?
MIKE: THEY HAVE A LOT OF NAMES.
THE UNDER DISCUSSED STORYLINE
THIS OFF-SEASON WAS HOW THE
DOLPHINS WENT ALL IN LAST YEAR.
THEIR CAP SITUATION IS NOT QUITE
SAINTS LEVEL OF BAD BECAUSE THEY
CAN SORT OF GET OUT FROM UNDER
IT AND YOU SAW THAT WITH HAVING
CHRISTIAN WILKINS WALK BUT THE
FACT THEY HAD TO LET CHRISTIAN
WILKINS WALK IS INDICATIVE OF
WHERE THEY WHERE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FRANCHISE
CORNERSTONE DT.
MICHAEL: I LOVE HIM.
MIKE: AT MINIMUM A TOP 10 DUTY
IN THE NFL, TO SAY WE CAN’T
OFFER YOU A CONTRACT.
THAT SHOWS HOW BAD A CAP
SITUATION THEY WERE IN.
THEY HAD TO LET XAVIEN HOWARD
WALK AS WELL.
SIGNED TO KENDALL FULLER.
CORNER IS NOT NECESSARILY A NEED
FOR THEM.
I DO THINK THE DEFENSIVE
BACKFIELD, YOU SAW CAM SMITH A
YEAR AGO AND I THINK THEY CAN
KEEP ADDING TO THE DEFENSE
BECAUSE OFFENSE OF A IF YOU WANT
A WIDE RECEIVER THREE, SURE.
BUT, THAT IS JAELON WILDS IS
YOUR OFFENSE NOW.
I AM NOT SURE THEY NEED THAT
POSITION.
A RUNNING BACK, THEY HAVE A FEW
43 DUDES.
MICHAEL: INTERESTING.
I AM EXCITED TO WATCH A.
THERE IS YOUR GUY.
THERE YOU GO.
THEY GOT ANOTHER FAST GUY.
MIKE: THE MAN HAS A TYPE AND IT
IS JAELON RIGHT.
— JAYLEN WRIGHT.
IF GIVEN THE BALL IN SPACE THERE
IS NOBODY BETTER.
THAT’S HIM RUNNING HEIGHTENED —
WAS THAT THE JORDAN GAME WHERE
HE BLAZED PAST JAVON BULLARD
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT HE HAD
ANGLES ON HIM AND HE JUST PUT IT
ON THEM.
THE MOST EXPLOSIVE GUY IN THE
DRAFT CLASS.
I HAVE VISION CONCERNS.
BUT WITH HOW MIAMI RUNS THEIR
OFFICE, IT’S NOT REALLY VISION.
THEY ARE RUNNING A LOT OF WIDE
CONCEPTS.
PITCHING IT TO HIM OUT IN SPACE
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE
ALMOST TURNS INTO A KID RETURN.
AND THAT IS WHEN JAYLEN WRIGHT
IS AT HIS BEST.
OUT IN SPACE AND LOVED HIS
VISION OF HOW HE ATTACKS ANGLES
AND CHANGES ANGLES WITH THAT
SPEED.
HE HAS A YOUNG GUY COMING OUT, I
THINK ONLY 20 YEARS OLD, OR AT
LEAST JUST TURNED 21.
HE’S DYNAMIC.
LIKE DANIEL, WHAT DOES HE WANT
IN THE OFFENSE?
DYNAMISM.
MICHAEL: SOME SPEED.
THE SEAHAWKS, LET’S SEE.
MICHIGAN TE A J BARNER TO THE
SEAHAWKS.
THERE YOU GO.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MICHIGAN TIGHT
END ON THE BOARD.
I THINK HE WAS MORE DYNAMIC.
MIKE: DO YOU?
I THINK HE IS JUST YOUR SECOND
TIGHT END THERE.
HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST BLOCKERS
UNDER THE DRAFT CLASS, 251
POUNDS.
TWO TIGHT END SETS, SECOND TIGHT
END.
IT’S A J BARNER CAN BLOCK.
ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
YOU CAN SEE HIM BLOCKING ON A
GUY THAT WENT ABOUT 50 PIXEL GO
OFF THE DRAFT BOARD.
HE WILL BLOCK GUYS LIKE THAT AT
THE NEXT LEVEL.
FOR HIM TO KICK OUT LIKE 272
POUND DE, THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
I HAD HIM HONESTLY AS RUN MEN
AROUND EARLIER.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE SIMILAR IN
TERMS OF WHERE I COVETED THEM.
MICHAEL: LET’S LOOK AT WHAT
TIGHT ENDS ARE ON THE BOARD.
BROCK BOWERS, EVERYBODY KNEW HE
WOULD GO FIRST-ROUND.
BEN SINNOTT, WAS THAT A
SURPRISE?
MIKE: VERY MUCH.
MICHAEL: TIP REIMAN.
IT TOOK JA’TAVION SANDERS WANT
TO COME OFF THE BOARD.
THEO JOHNSON FINALLY COMES OFF.
ERICK ALL AND AJ BARNER BACK
TO BACK TIGHT ENDS.
MIKE: THERE ARE A FEW GUYS THAT
I LIKE STILL ON THE DRAFT BOARD.
GEORGE WILEY FROM TCU IN MY
OPINION, WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF
BLOCKING TIGHT END.
HE IS AN AWESOME POSSESSION
TIGHT END.
HE WILL FILL THAT ROLE WELL.
I THINK KATE STORME WAS MORE OF
A TIGHT END THEN GUYS WE HAVE
SEEN ON THE BOARD ALREADY.
THOSE WERE TIGHT END SQUADRON
FIVE ON MY BOARD.
MICHAEL: WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT IS TO WASHINGTON?
MIKE: COLT WAS LIKE A WIDE
RECEIVER MAN.
MICHAEL: I FEEL YOU.
HE HAS SHADES OF KNOCKOFF DREW
MICHAEL FINLEY.
IT LIKE HE WILL GET TO THE NFL
AND BE LIKE, NO.
I NEED TO BE THIS.
THAT’S INTERESTING.
WESTOVER FOR ME DOES FEEL LIKE I
COULD BE A QUARTERBACK’S BEST
FRIEND.
IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING.
WHEN WE WRAP UP TODAY, AND WE
HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AND A
SHORT TIME TO GET THERE, I THINK
WE WILL LOOK AT WASHINGTON AND
LOOK AT HOW MANY GUYS THEY HAVE
DRAFTED AND BE LIKE, YO, THEY
DID IT TO THEM.
MIKE: THERE’S A REASON WHY.
MICHAEL: EXACTLY.
THE PIG IS IN.
LET’S SEE.
NO.
GO AHEAD.
NOT ME.
NO.
LISTEN, I KNOW HE GOT A LOT OF
REPS BECAUSE HE PLAYED AT IOWA.
MIKE: MAN, IF YOU ARE A PLAN TO,
DUDE.
YOU WON’T FIND TOO MANY PLACES
TO PLAY THEN AT IOWA.
HE IS A BIG DUDE.
A PUNTER MORE SO THAN A KICKER.
THE TOP PUNTER IN THE DRAFT.
PUNTER MORE SO THAN KICKER.
YOU CAN PROJECT WELL TO THE NFL.
IF YOU WILL DRAFT A SPECIAL TEAM
OR, DRAFT A PUNTER OR KICKER.
EFFICIENCY, HISTORICALLY, WE
HAVE NOT SEEN THE GUYS THAT GET
DRAFTED ARE NO BETTER THAN IT —
THOSE THAT END UP SIGNING.
MICHAEL: I AM HEARING FROM
UPSTAIRS BEFORE YOU GET BACK
INTO IT YOU DO NEED TO GIVE A
GRADE.
MIKE: A LITTLE EARLY.
IF THE VARIANCE YOU DON’T WANT
TO PUNT TOO MUCH.
HE AVERAGED 43 YARDS FOR A
PUNTER LAST YEAR AND HAS A REAL
BOOT.
48.3 1, 90 THREE PONCE LEADING
THE NATION BY THREE PONDS.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT YOU FEEL GOOD
ABOUT IT BECAUSE PUNTING IS LIKE
A LATE STRENGTH THINGS NOT AS
MUCH ACCURACY.
IT CAN BE FICKLE ON A SMALL
SAMPLE SIZE.
MICHAEL: TRADE ALERT.
THE TEXANS TRADE FOURTH ROUND
PICK, 127 AND 120 5/5 ROUND PICK
FOR THE EAGLES, FOURTH ROUND
PICK 123 OVERALL.
MIKE: SOMETHING THEY WANT.
MAYBE THEY SAW THE PUNTER RUN
COMING.
MICHAEL: LET ME SEE.
HERE WE GO.
I’M GOING TO THE CHAT.
THE BEARS BURNED A FOURTH ROUND
ON A PUNTER?
MIKE: HE’S A GOOD PUNTER.
MICHAEL: WHO GOES FIRST?
I WILL THROW PRATT IN THERE
BECAUSE I LIKE HIM.
2000 FAVORITE DAY QB.
ANY KICKERS DRAFTED TODAY?
MIKE: I COULD SEE A KICKER GET
DRAFTED TODAY.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO, FOR TEXAS,
A GUY HE KNOWS THAT HE PLAYED
WITH.
C ME PERSONALLY I LOVEADE
STOVER.
A TOP 100 PLAYER.
HE RAN A 465.
IT’S NOT BAD.
HE CAN BLOCK.
HE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE
FEATURED IN OFFENSE.
THIS GUY PLAYED WITH MARVIN
HARRISON JR..
HE PLAYED WITH TOP TIER ROOM
WIDE RECEIVERS.
HE IS KIND OF JUST LIKE THE
OTHER GUY.
HE WAS A BLOCKER.
HE WAS A SAFETY VALVE.
THAT IS WHAT C.J. STROUD IS
EXCITED ABOUT.
NOW HE GETS HIS SAFETY VALVE
BACK.
IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A KID
AND IT THEY LOSE THEIR BLANKET
AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE
PARK.
HE WENT BACK TO THE PARK AND
PICKED IT UP.
THIS IS EXCITING.
I LIKE HIS WORK ON THE TEAM.
I LIKE WHAT HE IS ABLE TO DO
OVER THE TOP OF SMALLER
DEFENSIVE BACKS AND I THINK HE
IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT PLAYS
FASTER THAN YOU TESTS.
MIKE: YOU SAW THAT IN THE LAST
CLIP.
ATTACKING THE FOOTBALL, OVER THE
MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
HE HAS NO REGARD FOR HIS BODY.
YOU WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.
HE WILL TAKE SHOTS.
HE DROPPED ONLY TWO PATCHES —
PASSES ON 84 CATCHES HIS ENTIRE
CREATURE — COLLEGIATE CAREER.
NOT A GREAT ROUTE RUNNER BUT HE
SEPARATES WITH PHYSICALITY.
HE GETS PHYSICAL WITH
LINEBACKERS.
HE WILL BLOCK IN LINE.
SOME OF THE GUYS THAT CAME OFF
THE BOARD TWO YEARS AGO.
IF YOU REMEMBER THAT GAME THAT
MARVIN HARRISON JR., HIS FIRST
GAME OF THE ROSE BOWL.
JS END, A NEARLY 300 YARD GAME.
HE WAS PLAYING DEFENSE FOR OHIO
STATE THAT GAME.
HE WAS PLAYING DEFENSIVE END OFF
BALL STRONG SIDE LINEBACKER
HYBRID IN THAT GAME.
MICHAEL: I THOUGHT HE WOULD STAY
THERE AND BE LIKE SAM HUBBARD.
MIKE: THEY WANTED HIM TO.
HE FLIPS BACK TO THE OFFENSIVE
SIDE OF THE BALL.
16 BROKEN TACKLES, 82 CATCHES.
A LITTLE BIT OF A NUMBER —
LUMBERER.
C.J. STROUD LIKES TO THROW THE
SAME AND WORK THE MIDDLE OF THE
FIELD.
STOVER CAN BE THAT GUY.
MICHAEL: THIS GUY IS A SICK GUY.
— THICK GUY.
IT’S NOT FUN TO TACKLE HIM IF
YOU ARE A CORNER.
MIKE: I WORRY ABOUT HIS SPEED
GETTING PAST LINEBACKERS BUT 465
IS GOOD.
HE COULD PROBABLY DROP A LITTLE
WAY TO GET THERE.
MICHAEL: THE TEXAS WEAPONS, DO
WE HAVE THAT BEFORE THE 49ERS?
THEY ADD IN STEFON SIGGS,
HUGE, TANK DELL, DALTON SCHULTZ,
STOVER.
CJ HAS TO BE HAPPY.
>> EVERYBODY KNOWS AND EVEN
AFTER THAT YOU HAVE NOAH BROWN
AND JOHN MICHIE, ROBERT WOODS.
WELLS, DALTON SCHULTZ, YOUR
SPEED YAK TIGHT END AND CADE
STOVER CAN BLOCK AND MAKE PLAYS
AS WIDE.
JOE MIXON.
THEY HAVE STARTERS AND DEPTH.
THERE ARE NO EXCUSES FOR THE
HOUSTON TEXAS OFFENSE DO NOT BE
HIGH TOP FIVE OFFENSE NEXT
SEASON.
MICHAEL: MALIKA MUSTAPHA FROM
THE WAKE FOREST DEMON DEACONS.
MIKE: THE 49ERS, THEY ARE
LEGITIMATELY ALL GUYS I AM HIGH
AROUND ON THE CONSENSUS.
MICHAEL: DO YOU THINK HE IS A
TRUE DEEP METAL GUY?
MIKE: HE IS JUST VERSATILE.
THAT’S WHAT I LOVED ABOUT HIM.
AT 5’10", 209 HE COULD PLAY IN
THE BOX.
HE HAD THE SIZE TO DO THAT.
IF HE HAD TO PLAY IN A PITCH, HE
COULD.
I LOVE THAT OFF QUARTERS IT IS
DIFFICULT FOR SAFETIES TO MAKE
PLAYS WHEN YOU GET A TEAM
RUNNING AT YOU, RUNNING OVER,
RUNNING A CORNER, THAT SORT OF
THING.
HE WAS THE BEST SAFETY IN THE
DRAFT CLASS MIRRORING THOSE
ROUNDS.
HE WOULD MAKE PLAYS ON THE
FOOTBALL FROM THOSE ALIGNMENTS.
WHEN YOU SEE A GUY DO THAT IT IS
AN EYE-OPENER FOR ME.
YOU DON’T SEE A LOT OF GUYS TO
BE.
COMING DOWNHILL, YOU WATCHED HIM
FLY.
I THINK THAT TSL, FROM A NON—
TSL FROM A NON-BOXED SAFETY
ALIGNMENT, PLAYS IN THE
BACKFIELD AND OFF QUARTER.
YOU SEE THAT THAT GUY CAN PLAY
IN THE LEAGUE.
MALIK MUSTAPHA MY NUMBER TO
SAFETY.
THEY HAD A GYRE BROWN AND HELEN
OAK A FORMER PRO.
THIS IS AN A PLUS PICK.
MICHAEL: I THINK IT IS TOO.
I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT HIM
COMING DOWNHILL FROM BEING
OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I LOVE THE WAY HE TAKES BANANA
ROUTES.
FOR PEOPLE THAT DON’T KNOW, THAT
IS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE NINE YARDS,
YOU HAVE TO COME DOWN AND
SQUEEZE AND FORCE THE GUY TO USE
THE SIDELINE THEN MAKE THE
TACKLE AND I LOVE THAT HE CAN DO
THAT.
I WILL GIVE THIS AND A AS WELL.
WATCHING HIM IN THE ACC WAS VERY
FUN.
I WONDER WHAT HE IS.
THIS IS A 40 — 49ERS TEAM, I
THINK HE CAN GROW INTO SOMETHING
MORE SPECIAL.
YOU MENTIONED BROWN.
THEY JUST PICKED BERNARDO GREEN
— RENARDO GREEN.
THEY HAVE A TON OF PIECES IN THE
SECONDARY THAT WILL HELP THEM
FIND A WAY.
IF YOU ARE THE 49 IS WHAT IT’S
BIGGEST FOR YOU?
YOU DON’T WANT TO LOSE THE SUPER
BOWL.
YOU WANT TO LOSE — WIN THE
SUPER BOWL.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN
THE DRAFT.
RICKY PERSONAL.
THEY STILL HAVE THE DEEBO SAMUEL
CONUNDRUM IF YOU WILL.
MIKE: WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT
THEIR DRAFT TOO IF YOU HAVE A
LOT OF OLDER GUYS THAT I WOULD
PROBABLY CLASSIFY AS AN IT’S
ALREADY.
THERE WHEN THERE WAS TWO YEARS
HERE.
NS ALREADY GUYS FOR THE SEASON.
HERE IS YOUR BOY.
MICHAEL: LOOK AT THAT.
I LOVE BUCKY IRVING.
I THINK HE RUNS HARD.
HE IS NOT A BIG GUY.
BUT HE RUNS HURT — HARD.
THIS IS A GUY THAT FOR ME, GREAT
CONTACT.
RUNS THROUGH CONTACT.
THERE IS SPEED THERE AS WELL.
I KNOW HE RAN A 4-5-5 AND I KNOW
HE PLAYS FASTER THAN THAT AND IS
NOT OFTEN CAUGHT FROM BEHIND.
THAT IS SOMETHING I KNOW ALL THE
TIME WHEN I WATCH FOOTBALL.
IT DOES HE GET CAUGHT FROM
BEHIND?
THIS GUY LOOKS LIKE LEMICHAEL
JAMES BUT RUNS A LITTLE HARDER.
HE RUNS HARDER THAN I FELT JAMES
RAN OR TOUGHER THAN JAMES.
I THINK HE HAS GREAT HANDS AND A
GOOD HESITATION MOVE.
LISTEN.
BUCKY IRVING FOR ME IS A PLAYER
THAT I ABSOLUTELY ADORE.
MIKE: LET ME TELL YOU WHY HE RAN
A 4-5-5.
HE IS NOT THE 192 POUNDS HE
WEIGHED IN AT THE COMBINE.
HE’S LIKE 180.
HE’S A SMALL RUNNING BACK.
THAT IS WHY I HAD HIM A LITTLE
LOWER.
HE IS SO GOOD AS A PATCH
CATCHER.
HE RUNS SO HARD.
FOR A GUY THAT IS 180, HE WILL
STICK HIS NOSE IN A DTS CHEST.
I WANT THE GUY TO SUCCEED.
IT WAS SO MUCH FUN TO WATCH HIM
PLAY THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY.
THERE IS SO MUCH TO LIKE ABOUT
HIM.
BUT 5’9", 180, 192 AT THE
COMBINE.
JUST A DIFFICULT SELL.
MICHAEL: KENYON BARNARD.
MIKE: JUST SMALL.
SIMILAR THOUGH.
KYREN WILLIAMS FELL TO THE FIFTH
COMING OUT OF ALBERT — NOTRE
DAME WHEN HE WAS VERY
PRODUCTIVE, A GUY THEY RANDY
OFFENSE THROUGH BUT BECAUSE HE
CAME OUT 199 OF THE COMBINE HEAT
RUN A 4-6-5 WHEN HE WAS NOT A
4-6-FIVE GUY.
HE WAS JUST NOT A BIG BACK AND
THAT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT BUCKY
IRVING.
MICHAEL: I LOVE THAT INSTINCT.
THAT’S WHY YOU ARE ON THE SHOW.
LOVE IT.
MIKE: MY FIRST PURE UNKNOWN OF
THE DRAFT CLASS.
I HAVE NOT WATCHED GIOVANNI’S
TAPE.
MICHAEL: IS THIS OUR FIRST TRUE
CANADIAN?
ADAMS PLAYED IN CANADA THEN
TRANSFERRED AGAIN.
THIS IS OUR FIRST TRUE CANADIAN.
MASSIVE TALENT AND AMOUNT AT
6-8, 350.
LISTEN, — 6’8", 350.
MIKE: 6’7", 350 TWO.
ON HIS PRO DAY, 50 6, 811 BROAD
JUMP.
33.5" VERTICAL.
THIS IS YOUR JORDAN MAILATA.
NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE JORDAN
MAILATA HAD NEVER PLAYED
FOOTBALL.
BUT HE IS A MASSIVE DUDE.
HE IS WAY OFF THE RADAR.
PLAYING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
BRITISH COLUMBIA.
YOU HOPE YOU CAN DEVELOP IT INTO
SOMETHING.
MICHAEL: I DID NOT KNOW THEY HAD
FOOTBALL.
MIKE: IF YOU ARE THE LIONS YOU
ARE BUILDING A MASSIVE LINE.
YOU ARE A LINE THAT LEANS ON
PEOPLE WHETHER IT IS FRANK,
PENNY’S WILL.
HE IS BUILT TO MOVE THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE.
HEY, I LIKE IT.
I LIKE IT WHENTHE THING IS THATS
DUDE.
IN DETROIT NOW, WHO DOES NOT
WANT TO BE A LIONS FAN?
MICHAEL: MY WIFE IS STARTING TO
GET INTERESTED IN THE LIONS
AGAIN.
I DON’T KNOW.
YOU COULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE
LIONS GAME THE WHOLE TIME WITH
ME.
MIKE: WHO CAN BLAME HER?
THEY ARE FUN.
BRAD HOLMES, GM.
ON AN ABSOLUTE ALL-TIME TEAR.
HE HAS THE MIDAS TOUCH.
WITH ANYTHING HE DRAFTS.
MICHAEL: LAST YEAR THEY GOT GUYS
THEY REALLY LIKED.
MIKE: WELL, THERE WAS ONE THAT
WAS LIKE EH, JAMISON WAS KIND
OF LIKE EH.
BUT YOU HAVE ELITE PLAYERS AND I
LOVE WHAT THEY DID THIS
OFF-SEASON.
THIS OFF-SEASON, MARCUS
DAVENPORT, DJ READER BUYING LOW
ON A COUPLE GUYS THAT HAVE
SHOWED TALENT IN THE PAST.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
THE EAGLES GET WILL SHIPLEY.
I WISH LOVE COKE WAS HERE.
MIKE: I BET HE IS A FAN.
SHIPLEY WAS A GUY THAT WAS A
FIVE STAR RUNNING BACK.
MICHAEL: HE WAS.
MIKE: HE HAS AWESOME RECEIVING
ABILITY.
HE WAS A PASS CATCHER.
IF YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE
OFFENSE, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS
VISION WHEN IT WAS LIKE AN
UNDETERMINED POINT OF ATTACK.
WHERE WILL HE STICK HIS NOSE?
WILL HE GRIND OUT TOUGH YARDS?
THE EAGLES DON’T GIVE YOU TOO
MANY SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
THEY GIVE YOU CLEAN LOOKS.
IT’S THE BEST OFFENSE OF LINE
WITH RUN BLOCKING IN AMERICA.
WHEN THAT WAS THE CASE, WHEN HE
IS OUT IN SPACE HE IS DYNAMIC.
HE IS A GUY THAT COULD SWITCH TO
WIDE RECEIVER.
THAT IS HOW GOOD OF A WIDE
RECEIVER HERE’S BACKFIELD AND
THEY HAVE THAT NEED IN THE SLOT.
THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION IF
THEY DO MOVE.
BUT I THINK HE IS A GUY IF YOU
WANTED TO COULD PLAY OUTSIDE.
MICHAEL: THAT’S GREAT THIS.
MIKE: I WILL GIVE IT AN A.
I LIKE THE FIT.
ANY COMPETENT FAN WILL TELL YOU
THEIR OFFENSE OF MINE WAS
ABYSMAL.
MIKE: WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
THEY HAD A GOOD ONE?
MICHAEL: THE MITCH HYATT YEARS I
GUESS.
THERE WAS A POINT WHEN THEY WERE
PLAYING GEORGIA THE LAST TWO
YEARS.
THERE ARE OFFENSIVE LINE GOT
PINNED DOWN.
OFF THE STACK.
I LOVE HIS DYNAMISM.
I WILL GIVE IT IN TOO.
THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IS
COMING INTO THIS SYSTEM, YOU
MENTIONED ON — YOU MENTIONED A
SWIFT NOT BEING A PART OF THAT.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING
IN A GUY THAT WILL BE THAT.
THAT WILL BE SHIFTY.
WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I AM SEEING
SOMEONE THAT CAN BE SHIFTY.
THEY WILL BUY HIM TIME.
IT’S AN OFFENSE OF LINE THAT
ONCE YOU PUSH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE GUYS UP FRONT, AND
DICKERSON, THEY JUST GAVE HIM A
TON OF MONEY, THEY WANT TO PUSH.
AND IF YOU CAN GET PUSH AND HE
CAN, FROM A DEEP SET, I THINK HE
IS A DEEP SET GUY.
LET HIM LOOK PRO, THEN GO AND I
THINK THAT WILL MAKE HIM BETTER.
ESPECIALLY GETTING HIM HERE.
YOU SAW HIM IN HIGH SCHOOL AND
HE WAS INCREDIBLY DYNAMIC.
EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, WE WILL SEE
HOW HE IS IN COLLEGE AND HE WAS
OK IN COLLEGE.
THE KEY FOR ME IS GETTING HIM
WHERE YOU GET HIM AND THEN
GETTING HIM IN OFFENSE.
THAT WILL LET HIM FIND THE PLACE
TO PUT HIM IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
LET’S — MIKE: LET’S LOOK AT
RUNNING BACKS THAT CAME OFF THE
BOARD ALREADY.
WE HAD THREE IN THE LAST EIGHT
PICKS.
JONATHON BROOKS.
MY RANKING, I THOUGHT THERE WERE
FOUR GUYS IN THIS CLASS
INCLUDING THREE NUMBER ONE.
IT WAS FOR THE FIRST THREE GUYS
ON THE BOARD.
MARCHAND LLOYD WAS IN MY OPINION
THE BEST.
THE PACKERS, THIS IS WHAT THEY
NEED.
THEY HAVE JOSH JACOBS FOR AT
LEAST THE NEXT THREE YEARS WITH
THE CONTRACT.
FOR THE MIND — ROOKIE DL, NOT
THE WORST PICK.
THESE GUYS ALL HAVE DYNAMISM AND
PASS CATCHING ABILITY.
I THINK WE ARE THING THESE GUYS
BE COVERED OVER NOTRE DAME,
WISCONSIN, KENTUCKY, MOORE THE
BRUISER STICKER BUILD RUNNING
BACKS.
BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT WE
STILL HAVE BRUISERS ON THE
BOARD.
GOOD NUMBERS.
>> THERE IS YOUR GUY RAY DAVIS
GOING TO THE BILLS.
I THINK HE IS A GREAT
COMPLEMENT.
MIKE: I LOVE RAY DAVIS.
I THINK HE’S A GREAT PASS
PROTECTOR TOO.
IN THIS DRAFT CLASS, BUILT LOW,
5’11", 211, RAN 452 AND SHOWED
UP AT THE SENIOR BOWL 220.
HE IS NOT A GUY WHO WILL OPEN ON
HIS OWN.
BUT IF YOU WANT SWINGS IT’S MORE
THAN OK.
WITH JAMES COOK, WHAT WE SAID
ABOUT, JAMES COOK IS LIKE
MARSHAWN LLOYD.
RAY DAVIS HAS STRUGGLED ON
SHORELINE SITUATIONS, GOAL LINE
SITUATIONS.
EVEN IF HE IS NOT A SUPER
HIGH-END TALENT.
I THINK IT IS A GREAT VALUE
PICK.
MICHAEL: KENTUCKY HAS
CONSISTENTLY GOT THIS GUY.
A GUY THAT IS IS QUITE RUNNING
BACK.
WE ALL REMEMBER BENNY SNELL.
I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO
MENTION THOSE GUYS GET A LOT OF
MILES ON THEM.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE ANY IS ABLE
TO BE THE COMPANY REPEATS
BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT.
JAMES COOK.
I THINK JAMES COOK SHOULD GET 20
AGAIN.
I DO THINK THERE SHOULD BE 20
HANDOFFS A GAME.
MIKE: HE’S ALSO 24 YEARS OLD.
TEMPLE BEFORE THAT.
STARTED AS A TRUE FRESHMAN FOR
TEMPLE BACK IN 2019.
HE DOES.
746 CAREER CARRIES IN COLLEGE.
THAT’S A LOT.
YOU DON’T SEE A LOT OF GUYS UP
IN THAT RANGE.
MICHAEL: MICHIGAN STATE WAS
WEARING HIM OUT.
49ERS TRADED UP WITH THE JETS.
ALL RIGHT.
MIKE: THEY WILL PICK ONE OF MY
GUYS.
PROBABLY THE ONE THEY ARE GOING
TO TAKE.
APPARENTLY — HERE’S MY BOARD.
I GUESS AUSTIN BOOKER WOULD MAKE
SENSE.
THEY WENT SAFETY.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IF JORDAN
MCGEE.
HE FITS THE ATHLETIC PROFILE
THEY WANT ON YOUR SIZE AT
LINEBACKER.
I THINK WASHINGTON WOULD MAKE A
LOT OF SENSE, THE VIRGINIA WIDE
RECEIVER.
HE CAN CREATE WITH THE BALL IN
HIS HANDS.
THE TRAITS HAVE SAILED ON AT
THIS POINT BUT HE CAN DO THIS
SAME ROLES.
NOT AS GOOD AS DEBO BUT THAT IS
WHY HE IS WHERE I HAVE THEM ON
THE DRAFT BOARD.
MICHAEL: THERE’S A LOT GOING ON.
MIKE: I SAID IT’S UNTENABLE IN
2025.
ONE OF THOSE GUYS WILL NOT BE
THERE IN 2025.
DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO SO.
IF THEY CAN ROLL INTO THIS YEAR,
IF THEY WANT TO RUN IT BACK, IT
CAN BE DONE.
DO YOU THINK THEY WILL MOVE FOR
A FUTURE PICK BEFORE THE SEASON
OR THEY WILL ROLL WITH IT?
MICHAEL: WHAT FUTURE PICK U CAN
GET HER DEPOT — YOU CAN GET FOR
DEBO AND THEN DEAL WITH THE
MADNESS?
MIKE: I DON’T KNOW.
ONE OF THOSE GUYS WALKS AT FREE
AGENCY.
DEBO IS UNDER CONTRACT.
YOU GET THE THIRD ROUNDER.
HE WOULD ASK FOR MORE THAN THAT.
SECOND AND THREE.
HOW MANY WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE WE
BEEN SEEING?
HARD TO GET A FIRST ROUNDER FOR
A WIDE RECEIVER WITH HOW THAT
WORKED OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, LAS
VEGAS.
THEY DOUG GIVING UP SOME TWOS.
DIFFICULT TO GET THAT BACK.
MICHAEL: OK.
MIKE: THEIR FOURTH ROUND RUNNING
BACK.
MICHAEL: HERE’S THE QUESTION FOR
ME.
DO YOU LIKE HIM BETTER THAN THE
OTHER GUY?
MIKE: JORDAN?
YEAH.
MORE NFL TRANSMITTABLE.
HE’S PUT UP AN ALL-TIME COMBINE.
HE SAT BEHIND ALLEN FOR A BUNCH
OF YEARS AT WISCONSIN, GOES TO
LOUISVILLE AND HAVE IS A
BREAKOUT YEAR THIS PAST YEAR.
132 CARRIES, 810 YARDS, 11 TDS.
HE RAN A 4.33, 10.9 BROAD JUMP
AT THE COMBINE.
TRULY SPECIAL NUMBERS.
THE NAME THAT KEPT COMING TO
MIND, AL DAVIS.
FORMER ARKANSAS RUNNING BACK.
4.37 AND WENT TO THE THIRD ROUND
TO THE CHIEFS.
EVERY SINGLE YEAR WAS A BREAKOUT
AND NEVER LIVED UP TO THE HYPE
BECAUSE THE VISION, THE TACKLE
BREAKING ABILITY WAS NEVER QUITE
THERE.
NEVER QUITE MATCHED THE PHYSICAL
TOOLS.
HOW IS A GUY WITH THIS ABSURD
TOOLS FALL IN THE FOURTH ROUND?
NOW HE’S GOING TO A POSITION
WHERE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE
FIRST 49 IS PICK — 49 IS PICK,
B MINUS.
MICHAEL: I HAVE TO GO WITH A C.
I THINK JORDAN IS BETTER AND
FITS BETTER WITH THE SAN
FRANCISCO TEAM IN TERMS OF A
TEAM THAT HAS SCHEMED AROUND
CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY.
HE IS A GOOD RUNNING BACK.
HE DID SPEND SOME TIME PLAYING A
COUPLE OF OTHER GUYS.
THIS ONE WILL BE INTERESTING.
HERE WE GOT.
— GO.
LET’S ROCK ‘N’ ROLL WITH THE
RAVENS.
THE PICTURE COMING IN AS FAST
AND FURIOUS.
HERE WE GO.
MIKE: TJ TAMPA.
MICHAEL: HE’S OFF THE BOARD.
MIKE: ONE OF MY BEST AVAILABLE.
HE IS NOT THE TWITCHY USED.
JUST A TOUGH SELL AT CORNER.
HE’S NOT A SLOT CORNER EITHER.
HE’S AN OUTSIDE CORNER.
MASSIVE WINGSPAN.
6’7" WINGSPAN.
TARA LE — PTERODACTYL-ESQUE.
I LOVE IT IS REP ON PUNT
COVERAGE WHEN HE JAMMED THE
GUNNERS AT THE LINEUP.
I THOUGHT HE WAS TREMENDOUS.
DOES NOT PLAY A TON AT IOWA
STATE BUT I WAS IMPRESSED.
A TRUE PRESS CORNER WHO IS A
FLUID ATHLETE BUT NOT A TWITCHY
ATHLETE.
THAT IS WHAT SCARES TEAMS AWAY.
DO HAVE GOT TO HAVE SOME JEWS
BEHIND YOU TO PLATE NFL CORNERS
— PLAY IN ECHO CORNERS. — NFL
CORNERS.
HE SMOOTH.
WITH THE RAVENS HE CAN PLAY A
ROLE IN THE DEFENSE.
CORNERBACK OBVIOUSLY NEEDED SOME
DUDES IN THAT MIX.
I LIKE THE PICK.
I LIKE THE PICK A LOT.
MICHAEL: CAN YOU BE TOO LONG?
IN TERMS OF HOW THAT AFFECTS
YOUR TWITCHIINESS?
MIKE: I THINK ANY NFL COACH
WOULD BALK AT A SEVEN FOOT
WINGSPAN.
THE LONGER YOUR ARMS ARE THE
BETTER AT THE CORNERBACK
POSITION.
CORNERBACK, THE STUDY HAS BEEN
DONE.
THAT IS WHY TEAMS ARE UNWILLING
TO TAKE 30 AND BELOW.
WHY TRENT MCDUFFIE FELL IN THE
DRAFT, HE HAS SHORT ARMS BEHIND
— DESPITE ELITE TAPE FROM
WASHINGTON.
NFL WIDE RECEIVERS ARE BUILT
LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE LONG ARMS.
THEY CAN MAKE PLAYS AT THE CASH
POINT.
IT IS HARD WHEN YOU HAVE SHORT
ARMS TO GO UP TO THE CATCH POINT
AND AFFECT THOSE GUYS.
IT IS LIKE BASKETBALL.
THEY ARE DRAFTING GUYS WHO MAY
BE AVERAGE EIGHT POINTS PER GAME
IN COLLEGE BUT THEY HAVE SEVEN
FOOT WINGSPAN’S AND THEY ARE
6’4".
THAT MATTERS WHEN YOU ARE A GAME
OF INCHES TRYING TO GO UP AND
GET FOOTBALLS.
I DON’T THINK YOU CAN BE TOO
LONG.
A ROUNDABOUT WAY OF SAYING THAT.
MICHAEL: CANNOT LINK THE FACT
YOUR —
MIKE: THE LONGER YOUR ARMS ARE
THE HARDER IT IS TO COORDINATE
THEM.
SOMETHING YOU SEE WITH OFFENSIVE
TACKLES.
IT MIGHT BE SELECTION BIAS BUT
THEY USUALLY USE THEIR HANDS
BETTER.
THEY NEED TO ALSO TO SURVIVE IN
THAT POSITION.
LONG ARM GUYS, IT HELPS A TON
BUT FROM HERE TO THERE IT IS
LONG.
THE NURSE TAKE LONGER TO FIRE.
THEY ARE HEAVIER ON THE SIDE OF
YOUR SHOULDERS TO PICK UP AND
PUT DOWN.
USE THEM SLOWER THAN OTHER GUYS.
MICHAEL: LET’S CHECK OUT THE
CORNERS THAT HAVE BEEN PICKED.
WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THEM COME
OFF THE BOARD.
GUYS, GUYS, GUYS COMING OFF THE
BOARD.
MITCHELL.
YOU DID THAT ON DAY ONE.
OBVIOUSLY THE EAGLES ARE
THRILLED ABOUT IT.
ARNOLD, ANOTHER GUY.
A LOT OF FOLKS HAD THEM AS THE
NUMBER ONE CORNER.
NATE WIGGINS, THE FASTEST
CORNER.
HE’S OFF THE BOARD.
DEJIN, SURPRISE IN THE SECOND
ROUND.
ALSO AMAZING.
MCKINSTRY, ANOTHER GUY WHO WAS
IN THE TOP 25ISH.
RICHARDSON.
ANDREW PHILLIPS, JONES, THEN
TYREE JACKSON, RICHARDSON AND TJ
TAMPA.
HOW MANY CORNERS DID WE GET
PICKED SO FAR?
MIKE: THAT IS 14 I BELIEVE OFF
THE BOARD.
THE SECOND SORT OF TIER, THE
TOP SIX GUYS LIKE MCKINSTRY.
THE SECOND TIER IS ABSURDLY
DEEP.
NAMES FOR DAYS IF YOU WANT A
CORNER.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THAT.
MICHAEL: JARED WILEY.
TCU TIGHT END HEADING TO THE
CHIEFS.
MIKE: HE IS UBER RELIABLE.
HE HAS THE BEST HANDS.
JUST PLUCKING IT.
BESOUGHT HIM NOT EVEN BREAK
ASTRIDE.
AT 6’6", 249, THAT’S BIG TIME.
HE’S NOT A GREAT BLOCKER BUT HE
HAS THE SIZE TO DEVELOP IN THAT
REGARD AND THE WILLINGNESS.
TCU’S OFFENSE DID NOT USE HIM.
NOT MY THING.
HE DID NOT DRAW BALLS.
HE COULD TAKE A BLOW.
IF YOU TACKLE HIM HIGH AND COME
IN WITH BAD TECHNIQUE, HE AIN’T
GOING DOWN.
I WOULD LIKE HIM TO GET MORE
PHYSICAL AFTER THE CATCH.
PROBABLY WHAT HE’S GOING HIGHER.
HE IS A PLUS, PLUS ATHLETE.
AGAIN, THE CHIEFS RECEIVING CORE
WAS SO UNRELIABLE LAST YEAR.
SO HIT AND MISS WHEN THE BALL
WAS PERFECTLY PLACED.
IT WAS A CIRCUS IF HE WAS GOING
TO HAUL IT IN OR NOT.
WITH THE WEIGHT CAN SCHEME IN
THE RED ZONE, THE GOAT IN THAT
REGARD IN NFL HISTORY, THIS GUY
CAN BE A WEAPON.
MICHAEL: THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO
TRADE.
NOW THE LIONS ARE BACK ON THE
CLOCK.
PICKS 164, 201.
MIKE: FUTURE FOURTH.
MICHAEL: WE ARE LOOKING AT THE
DETROIT LIONS.
THEY ARE GOING AFTER IT.
THIS IS A TEAM — DO WE HAVE THE
LIONS DRAFT?
TWO CORNERS, BOTH WE LOVE.
MANU.
THEY GET SOME OFFENSIVE LINE
HELP.
WHAT DID THEY GO FROM HERE?
MIKE: GREAT QUESTION.
WHEREVER THEY GO, I TRUST BRETT
HOLMES WITH MY LIFE AT THIS
POINT.
THAT MAN’S TRACK RECORD IS
UNDENIABLE.
THEY DON’T HAVE HOLES.
WHERE YOU GO FROM HERE?
THERE IS NO POSITION WHERE IT IS
LIKE IT HAS TO BE HERE.
THE ONE PLACE I WOULD LOVE THEM
TO ADDRESS IS PROBABLY ALONG THE
INTERIOR OFFENSE OF LINE. —
OFFENSIVE LINE.
IF YOU ARE THIN ANYWHERE, YOU
HAVE SOME OLD GUYS STARTING AND
BANGED UP GUYS WITH INJURY
HISTORY WITH GRAHAM GLASGOW.
KRISTIN MAHOGANY MAYBE, BC
OFFENSIVE LINEMAN.
THAT IS WHERE —
MICHAEL: FROM 2018.
MIKE: THE INTERIOR IS THIN.
IF THERE IS ANY PLACE THAT IT
COULD DERAIL THE TEAM, IT’S
THERE.
MICHAEL: THEY SHOULD GO
INTERIOR.
THEY HAVE TO BE SUPER THRILLED
WITH PENE.
DECKER.
HE SAID GLASGOW ALREADY.
THOSE ARE GUYS OVERDRAFTED 2016
AND 2018.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE’VE GOT.
YOU LIKE HIM?
I LIKE HIM, TOO.
MIKE: HE’S ONE OF THE WEIRDEST
PROSPECTS IN THE DRAFT CLASS.
THAT’S AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
HE HAS ONLY PLAYED TWO YEARS OF
COLLEGE.
HE IS A SOPHOMORE COMING UP.
I CAN’T REMEMBER A SOPHOMORE
COMING UP.
A THREE YEAR MORMON MISSION.
COMES BACK TO UTAH AND STARTS
THE SECOND HALF OF HIS 2022
SEASON THIS PAST YEAR.
NOT ONLY DEFENSE WHERE HE WAS
AMAZING AROUND FOOTBALL.
HE IS A GUY WHO WAS A HIGH-END
TACKLER, HIGH-END EXPLOSIVENESS
TO THE FOOTBALL.
HE ALSO PLAYED OFFENSE AT UTAH.
HE HAD 150 RECEIVING YARDS
AGAINST USC AND 150 RUSHING
YARDS AGAINST CAL.
I GUYS DYNAMIC.
HE RAN ROUTES AT THE SENIOR
BOWL.
MEET SOME CORNERS AT TIMES.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE LIONS HAVE
PLANNED BUT HE’S AN OFFENSIVE
WEAPON WHOSE ONLY GETTING
BETTER.
EASILY PLAY TWO YEARS OF COLLEGE
FOOTBALL.
MICHAEL: WILL HE PLAY OFFENSE OR
DEFENSE?
MIKE: I HAVE NO CLUE.
FOR THE DETROIT LIONS.
THE COACHING STAFF THERE.
I WOULD NOT PUT IT PAST HIM TO
PUT HIM ON THE OFFENSIVE SIDE.
HE PLAYS DEFENSE THE WAY DAN
CAMPBELL ONCE YOU DELETE
DEFENSE.
I THINK IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER.
REAL TINY FRAME.
HE’S 5’11", 210.
HE IS A BUILT DUDE.
INTERESTING PICK FOR THE LIONS.
MICHAEL: JADEN HICKS — I WANT
TO FINISH THIS ONE THING ABOUT
VAKI.
I LOVE THE WAY HE PLAYS DEFENSE.
HE’S A COW WINNINGHAM PLAYER.
THERE IS A WINNINGHAM TO
CAMPBELL ONE TO ONE I
APPRECIATE.
JADEN HICKS.
BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT HIM CAN WE
PULL UP THE STEALS BOARD, THE
SURPRISES ON THE BOARD.
NOPE.
WE WILL GO STRAIGHT TO JADEN
HICKS.
YOU LIKE THIS GUY.
MIKE: I COULD NOT BELIEVE HE WAS
THIS FAR IN THE DRAFT.
HE HAD A REAL BREAKOUT SEASON
THIS PAST YEAR.
SAFETY THREE.
HE’S GOT SIZE.
6’2", 215 POUNDS.
RAN 4.45.
A TRULY SMOOTH ALL-AROUND
ATHLETE.
HE IS A GUY THAT CAN GO
ONE-ON-ONE AGAINST TIGHT ENDS
AND SHUT DOWN TIGHT ENDS.
HE IS ONE OF THOSE TIGHT IN A
RAZOR BODY TYPES.
A TONTO PLAYS ON THE FOOTBALL
THIS PAST YEAR.
EVEN THOUGH HE HAS BOX SAFETY
SIZE I DID NOT THINK HE WAS A
LIABILITY.
HE MAY NOT BE YOUR TRUE
PLAYMAKER ON THE BACKEND BUT
HE’S NOT OUT OF HIS DEPTH
WHATSOEVER WHEN HE IS PLAYING
IT.
TWO STARTING SAFETIES WITH BRYAN
COOK AND JUSTIN REID, WHO THEY
LOVE.
HE CAN BE LIKE A DIME LINEBACKER
AS WELL.
TO GET HIM HERE, I LOVE THAT
PIC.
MICHAEL: IT’S A FANTASTIC ONE.
HERE WE GO.
SURPRISES ON THE BOARD.
FRANKLIN IS GONE.
JOHNSON IS GONE.
JADEN HICKS NOW GONE.
WE ARE WAITING ON SPENCER
RATTLER.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN A QUARTERBACK,
RIGHT?
WE WILL SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS
LIKE.
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW LONG
SPENCER RATTLER IS WAITING.
WE HAVE THE JETS ON THE CLOCK.
MIKE: DO WE HAVE ANY MORE VAKI
HIGHLIGHTS?
HE IS TRULY A PLEASURE TO WATCH
PLAY THE GAME OF FOOTBALL.
HE RAN A 4.62.
HE HIT 22 MILES PER HOUR ON THE
GPS.
HE’S A HUSKY GUY.
MICHAEL: IT’S MORE IMPORTANT.
WHAT YOU CAN DO AND PANTS ON THE
FIELD IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN
WHAT YOU DO IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
THE PIC IS IN.
IT IS THE JETS.
WE HAVE SOME JETS FOLKS IN THE
OFFICE.
THE YOUNGEST.
WOW.
THEIR FIRST ELECTION ON DAY 3.
134.
HE WILL JOIN BREECE HALL AND A
GANG OF OTHER GUYS.
MIKE: HE IS A TRUE MONSTER.
YOU SEE RIGHT THERE THE GUYS
BOUNCE OFF HIM.
HE DOES NOT TURN 21 UNTIL AFTER
THE SEASON.
HE WAS 17 YEARS OLD RACKING UP
1268 YARDS IN THE BIG TEN AS A
TRUE FRESHMAN.
REALLY BEEN A BELL COW FOR THAT
TEAM.
SOME INJURIES THIS PAST YEAR.
I DON’T THINK IT WAS HIS BEST
TAPE IN 2023.
NOT GOING TO BE A GUY YOU THROW
TWO ON THE BACKFIELD.
NOT GOING TO BE MUCH OF A
HOMERUN HITTER.
235 IS 235.
WHETHER FRAME THEY CAN GET INTO
THE TWO 40’S AND WILL NOT LOOK
RIDICULOUS ON HIM, TOUGH TO
BRING DOWN, DUDE.
FOR THE JETS, GOAL LINE
SITUATIONS, PROBABLY FANTASY
MANAGERS ARE CRYING IN THEIR
PILLOW.
BRAELON WILL BE TAKING SOME OF
THOSE CARRIES AWAY FROM THE.
DID RUN A PREDRAFT 40.
AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT I
WILL TAKE IT.
MICHAEL: I LOVE IT.
I DIG HIM.
THERE WAS A POINT WHERE I
THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE THE BEST
RUNNING BACK IN COLLEGE
FOOTBALL, OR COULD BE.
MIKE: NEVER TOOK THE NEXT STEP.
MICHAEL: THIS IS A GUY — HE
UNDERSTANDS HOW TO RUN BETWEEN
THE TACKLES.
P UNDERSTAND I WILL PROTECT THE
FOOTBALL.
HE KNOWS HE CANNOT FUMBLE.
COMING OUT OF WISCONSIN I WILL
GIVE IT AN A MINUS.
THAT’S ONLY BECAUSE OF THE
INJURIES.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
HE IS NOT A GUY THAT PLAYS WELL
WHEN HE’S DINGED UP.
HE IS SOMEONE THAT HAS TO BE
HEALTHY TO PLAY.
THAT’S NOT A KNOCK ON HIM OR
ANYONE.
IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE
THERE IS SOME GUYS THAT ARE
LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
I’M HURT.
I’M GOING.
YOUR BODY PERFORMS HOW IT
PERFORMS.
WHEN HE’S FULLY HEALTHY, HE IS
READY TO ROCK ‘N’ ROLL.
MIKE: VERY MUCH LIKE AN AJ
DILLON TYPE OF RUNNING BACK.
MICHAEL: YEAH.
THAT’S A GREAT ONE.
I LOVE THAT.
WE HAVE GOT THAT.
WE HAVE THE 49ERS BACK ON THE
CLOCK.
MIKE: LAST PIC OF THE FOURTH
ROUND.
MICHAEL: IS THIS THE LAST PIC?
MIKE: I BELIEVE SO.
AND THEN WE HAVE THREE MORE
ROUNDS, BABY.
WE ARE NOT DONE YET.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE 3CO — THREE
COMPS.
135.
AND THEN THREE MORE ROUNDS.
I’LL TELL YOU WHAT, CLICK HAD
SOME REALLY GOOD PICKS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GUYS THAT
HAD A LOT OF ISSUES TWO OR THREE
YEARS AGO WITH INJURY STUFF.
GUYS THAT FLASHED BUT NEVER GOT
IT DONE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT SAN FRANCISCO.
RICKY PEARSALL, GREEN, PUNI.
IS THIS THEIR THIRD PICK OF THE
FOURTH ROUND?
LOOK AT THEM.
LET’S GO.
LET’S SEE WHAT THEY’VE GOT.
I’M READY FOR AN MOVE ON TO THE
FIFTH ROUND.
THE PIC IS IN.
MIKE: JACOB COHEN.
HE IS A PLAYER, MAN.
HE CAN GET OPEN.
THIS GUY CAN GET OPEN.
HE IS JUST A SMALL.
HE IS A SUB 70 INCH WINGSPAN.
A TOP 100 PLAYER.
MICHAEL: HOW SHORT IS HE?
MIKE: 5’8".
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SMALL
WAISTBAND IT IS HARD FOR QB’S TO
FIND YOU.
IN COLLEGE THE WINDOWS ARE BIG.
HE HAS TO BE OPENED BUT A GUY
WHO CAN GET OPEN.
MUCH BIGGER FRAME.
HE COULD MAKE PLAYS OUTSIDE OF
HIS BODY.
SIMILAR SORT OF MOVEMENT AND
SKILLS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
4.34 AT THE COMBINE, 36 INCH
VERTICAL.
PRODUCTIVE AT ARIZONA.
THERE NUMBER TWO OPTION IN THE
OFFENSE.
MAYBE A FIRST ROUNDER NEXT YEAR.
NUMBER 4.
HE WAS A MONSTER.
COWIN WAS THE DYNAMISM GUY.
IF THEY DO — THEY WILL NOT
REPLACE HIM WITH ONE GUY.
COWING IS PROBABLY A SLOT WIDE
RECEIVER.
HE CAN HIT HOME RUNS DOWN THE
FOOTBALL FIELD FOR YOU.
I LOVE THIS PICK.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE GOT TO GET
TO THE ROUND 4 RECAP.
ROUND 5 HAS ALREADY STARTED.
SEATTLE HAS THEIR PICK IN.
SANDERS GOES TO THE PANTHERS.
FRANKLIN, THAT IS ONE OF OUR
GUYS WE LIKE.
ROBINSON.
TAYLOR-DEMERSON.
GRAY IS A TACKLING GUY OUT OF MY
SCHOOL, UNC.
DORTON JEFFERSON, THE DEFENSIVE
TACKLE FROM LSU.
A GUY WE WANT TO SEE MORE OUT
OF.
IT WAS NEXT?
DORLUS.
HERE WE GO.
KNIGHT OUT OF UTEP.
WE ARE SEEING LINEBACKERS COME
OFF THE BOARD.
MIKE: THE MASON MCCORMICK PIC,
THE STEELERS, WELL DONE.
TAILORED TO THE DOLPHINS.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TYPES.
THEY GO TO THEM YEAR-IN AND
YEAR-OUT.
MCDANIEL, A LOVE THE WAY HE
DRAFT.
MICHAEL: IRVING.
YOU MENTIONED THE WEIGHT THING.
I LIKE THE WAY HE PLAYED.
WILL SHIPLEY.
WILL HE, WON’T HE?
DAVIS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF A
BRUISER.
TAMPA 2 YOU LIKE.
WE ENDED UP WITH JADEN HICKS WHO
WAS ON YOUR LIST.
ALLEN IS A BRUISER.
WIND UP WITH COWING.
I ASSUME WE ARE INTO THE FIFTH
ROW NOW.
WE HAVE THREE TO GO, FIFTH
ROUND.
WE HAVE THE FIFTH ROUND.
THE PIC IS ALREADY IN.
LET’S SEE WHO WE HAVE FOR THE
SEAHAWKS.
I DON’T.
MIKE: HE CAN’T FLY.
MICHAEL: PECAN FLY. — HE CAN
FLY.
IT IS NOT ABOUT PICK.
I THINK HE IS GOOD BUT HE DOES
NOT WANT TO TACKLE.
VERY FLUID AS AN ATHLETE AND CAN
COVER WELL.
MISSES TACKLES BUT HE’S
ABANDONED COVERAGE.
MIKE: I WORRY ABOUT GUYS WHO
DON’T LIKE TACKLING AND THEY
HAVE SMALL HANDS, BECAUSE THAT
MATTERS FOR WRAPPING UP.
EIGHT AND THREE-QUARTER IN
HANDS.
THAT IS SMALL.
IT IS TOUGH TO GET A GRIP ON
SOMEBODY.
IT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BIGGER
HANDS WHO TACKLE BUT IT MATTERS
WHEN YOU’RE TRYING TO PLAY PRESS
COVERAGE.
THAT’S IMPORTANT.
TO ME A LINEAR DUDE.
I THOUGHT HE GOT HIGH IN HIS
TRANSITIONS.
LONG AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
HE CAN REALLY COOK DOWN THE
FOOTBALL FIELD WITH THAT SPEED.
THEY HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS AT
THIS ONE IN THE DRAFT OF
CORNERS, JOHN SCHNEIDER HAS.
NOT GOING TO SAY THIS IS GOING
TO BE ONE OF THEM. THE
TRACK RECORD IS GOOD.
MICHAEL: WHEN YOU WATCH HIM PLAY
YOU SEE ALL THE TOOLS.
I TRULY WANT HIM TO GET HANDS ON
THIS GUY AND BE MORE PHYSICAL.
GUESS WHAT?
HE MAKES THE PLAY ANYWAY.
DOESN’T MATTER.
IF YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT, GET
AWAY WITH IT.
LISTEN.
I WANT TO SEE YOU BE GREAT,
AWESOME.
IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE
IN MY MIND I LIKE DJ JAMES’S
WORK BECAUSE HE PLAYS — WHO’S
THAT OTHER GUY?
CARLTON DAVIS?
HE PLAYS LIKE THAT.
PHYSICAL.
I THINK HE IS THE SAME WAY.
YOU LOOK AT THE SEAHAWKS.
YOU GO GET BYRON, KNIGHT, AJAY
BARNER.
I THINK — YOU CAN’T PLAY ON
THAT DEFENSE IF YOU’RE NOT
PHYSICAL.
THAT IS A REALITY.
MIKE: I DON’T THINK HE STARTS
FOR THEM.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
THE FIFTH ROUND.
YOU ARE NOT EXPECTING THEM TO
START.
IF THERE IS A NEED, IT IS THE
OTHER CORNER SPOT WHERE THEY
HAVE TREY BROWN, MICHAEL
JACKSON.
WHERE THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN
SOMEBODY.
I DON’T THINK HE’S GOING TO BE
THE GUY.
THE SEAHAWKS.
I LOVE THE START TO THE DRAFT.
BYRON MURPHY AND KRISTIAN HAYNES
ARE PLUG-AND-PLAY IMPACT A1
STARTERS.
THE DRAFT TRULY IS THREE ROUNDS
LONG IN TERMS OF HOW ACTUALLY —
MICHAEL: GUYS THAT ARE GOING TO
PLAY.
MIKE: FOR THE ROOKIE CLASS IT IS
THREE ROUNDS LONG.
FOUR ROUNDS IN TERMS OF GUYS YOU
CAN ASHLEY START.
5, 6, 7 ARE YOU FLEX YOUR
MUSCLES IN TERMS OF IF YOU CAN
GET GUYS THAT CAN SEE A FOOTBALL
FIELD AND NOT BE LIABILITIES AT
THIS POINT OF THE DRAFT YOU ARE
GOOD.
IF YOU CONSISTENTLY DO THAT, YOU
ARE A GOOD GM.
RICHARD SHERMAN IS A FIFTH-ROUND
PICK.
GOOD AT DEEP SCOUTING.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE GENO SMITH,
KENNETH WALKER, METCALF HAS TO
BE THE STAR THE SHOW.
IS THAT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO WIN
THE DIVISION?
MIKE: IT IS.
THAT IS ENOUGH.
WHAT WAS THE LIMITING AGENT A
SEASON AGO?
THE OFFENSIVE LINE.
THEY WERE BANGED UP TO THE
GILLS.
LEFT TACKLE, RIGHT TACKLE COULD
NOT STAY HEALTHY.
THAT IS WHY THE OFFENSE GOES IN
THE TANK THE WAY IT DID.
IT IS NOT THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE NFL YOU
WILL NOT FIND TOO MUCH BETTER IN
THE RUNNING BACK-WIDE
RECEIVER-TITAN STANDPOINT.
— TIGHT END STANDPOINT.
YOU WILL NOT FIND TIMMY GROUPS
BETTER IN THAT REGARD.
THE OFFENSIVE LINE NEEDS
TO STAY HEALTHY.
MICHAEL: WE ARE IN THE
FIFTH-ROUND.
I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR MY
STOMACH.
[LAUGHTER]
MIKE: THEY POINT UP, NOT DOWN
PAINFULLY.
MICHAEL: MY GOSH.
I LOOKED UP AND I THOUGHT MY ARM
WAS UP.
WE ARE EXCITED.
CLEAR INTO THE FIFTH-ROUND OUT.
PICKED NUMBER 137.
CHARGERS.
THE PIC IS IN.
THIS WILL BE THAT’S OK.
THERE YOU.
MARYLAND CORNER.
THIS IS A GUY THAT I CAMPE —
COMPED A LITTLE BIT.
HE’S AGGRESSIVE AND A LITTLE
HANDY.
AGGRESSIVE AND A LITTLE HANDY
BUT LOOK AT THE LONG GAME.
TOOK A BIG LEAP IN TERMS OF
UNDERSTANDING AND GROWING IN HIS
ROLE.
HI THINK HE’S GOT THE ABILITY —
HE TURNS DEFENSE INTO OFFENSE.
I THINK WATCHING HIM PLAY.
THE HANDSINESS IS SOMETHING
HE WILL HAVE TO WORK ON.
MIKE: WE ARE KIND OF AT THAT
POINT IN THE DRAFT WHERE WE SEE
THINGS DIFFERENT.
THE BIG REASON BEING SOME 30.
— SUB 30.
YOU DON’T SEE GUYS AT DEPOSITION
WITH A KIND OF LINK.
— LENGTH.
INTERESTED TO SEE HOW HE FITS
IN.
MICHAEL: WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT
NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
CHARGERS, YUP.
MIKE: I DON’T THINK THAT FIRST
HIGHLIGHT WAS TARGETING STILL.
MICHAEL: THEY HAD A KRISTIAN
FULTON THIS OFF-SEASON.
THEY STILL HAVE JAMES.
SAMUEL JUNIOR, ONE OF THE BETTER
CORNERS IN THE LEAGUE.
YOU THROW IN TAYLOR AT THE SLOT
GUY.
THEY ARE BUILDING IT UP.
MIKE: HE WAS A DISASTER LAST
YEAR THE CORNERBACK POSITION.
THEY TRY TO ADDRESS FULTON.
I DON’T THINK IT IS ENOUGH.
THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED IT UNTIL
NOW.
I DON’T THINK THAT IS
NECESSARILY FIXING ANYTHING
OVERNIGHT.
IT IS STILL A POSITION WHERE I
WOULD EXPECT CLASSES TO COME,
FREE AGENCIES TO COME AND THEY
WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS IT.
WITH JIM HARBAUGH WE WERE NOT
EXPECTING WHAT HE DID WITH THE
49ERS OVERNIGHT IN THE NFC
CHAMPIONSHIP THE NEXT YEAR.
THAT I DON’T THINK WILL BE THE
CASE.
IT WILL TAKE A MINUTE BUT I LIKE
WHAT THEY DID WITH THE EARLIER
ROUND PICKS FOR SURE.
MICHAEL: THE CARDINALS ARE ON
THE CLOCK NOW.
HAVE WE SEEN A TEAM REVERSE
COURSE LIKE THE CARDINALS DID
WITH RESPECT TO KYLER MURRAY?
IT SEEMED LIKE HE WAS GOING TO
BE OUTPUT THAN THEY WERE ALL IN
ON HIM.
XAVIER.
GOOD HER HIM.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE
GUYS.
I WILL NEVER FORGET.
HE WAS A SCOUT IN TEXAS.
I ASKED ABOUT CAROL WILKINS,
THAT HELP — FARRELL, WILKINS.
HE SAID THREE IS BETTER THAN ALL
OF THEM.
THEN HE GOES THROUGH.
HE GETS ALONG COVID AND ANOTHER
INFECTION.
— LONG COVID AND ANOTHER
INFECTION AND IS NEVER THE SAME
PLAYER AGAIN.
CAN HE GET BACK TO BEING THAT
PLAYER THAT HE WAS WHEN HE WAS A
FRESHMAN?
MIKE: HIS TAPE THIS PAST YEAR
WAS THE CLOSEST I SAW TO THAT
FRESHMAN YEAR.
2018, A TRUE FRESHMAN.
10.5 TACKLES ON A LINE
WITH DEXTER LAWRENCE, CHRISTIAN
WILKINS.
HE WAS AN IMPACT GUY, A
LEGITIMATE PLAYMAKER.
A TRUE FRESHMAN.
REALLY HURT.
HIT HARD BY COVID.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE HIS JUNIOR
YEAR, THE BREAKOUT YEAR TO GO TO
THE NFL.
HE HAD TO GAIN WEIGHT AND WAS
IMPACTED BY.
2021-2020 TWO, JUST NOT THE SAME
PLAYER.
TWO SURGERIES ON HIS FOOT BACK
IN 2022.
THIS PAST YEAR YOU SAW THE SAME
EXPLOSIVENESS.
HE IS A COMPACT DEFENSE EVENT.
6’2", 253.
SHORTER ARMS BUT HE HAS SOME
REPS WHERE HE CAN FORKLIFT OFF
THE TACKLES ON THE OUTSIDE AND
JUST THROWS THEM.
LEGIT EXPLOSIVENESS OFF THE
EDGE.
YOU PAIR HIM — A TRUE BULRUSH
OR. — BULL RISHER.
THEY CAN REALLY COLLAPSE THE
POCKET.
THERE IS SOME TALENT HERE.
MICHAEL: THERE IS A LOT OF
TALENT.
YOU JUST WANTED TO BE
ACTUALIZED.
I SAW HIM COME OFF THE BOARD.
I AM ROOTING FOR THIS GUY.
MIKE: IF HE WAS DRAF ELIGIBLE
IN 2018, IF WE LOWERED THE AGE
LIKE THE NBA WHERE IT IS ONE
SEASON, CHANCES ARE THIS GUY IS
A TOP 50 PICK AT WORST.
AFTER THAT SEASON.
THAT IS HOW GOOD IT WAS.
TOTAL TRUE FRESHMAN.
I LIKE THE PIC.
THIS IS RIGHT WHERE I HAD HIM ON
THE DRAFT BOARD.
I HAD HIM EARLIER ON THE DRAFT
BOARD.
MICHAEL: THE CARDINALS HAVE A
COUPLE OF GUYS I LIKE.
I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING A
BIG SEASON AND I’M EXCITED FOR
XAVIER THOMAS.
LATU, DALLAS TURNER, VERSE,
ROBINSON.
NOW WE GO TO KNEELAND.
MIKE: ROBINSON.
MICHAEL: BRALEN TRICE.
HUNT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST.
WHAT HAPPENED?
HE PLAYED SAFETY AND THEN BECAME
A DEFENSE EVENT — DEFENSIVE
END.
MIKE: HIS TAPE WAS FUN.
AN EXPLOSIVE DUDE.
HUNT AND THOMAS ARE BOTH
HIGH-END SIZE-SPEED ATHLETES.
HUNT AND THOMAS NOT IDEAL
LENGTH.
YOU WORRY ABOUT THE DEFENSIVE
LINE COACHES WORKING ON
THAT.
MICHAEL: THOMAS HAS SHOWN HE CAN
DO IT IF HE’S HEALTHY.
WE HAVE THE COMMANDERS.
THERE IS JORDAN MCGEE.
MIKE: A TOP PLAYER ON MY BOARD.
MICHAEL: JORDAN MCGEE GOES TO
THE COMMANDERS.
HE’S A GOOD MOVER.
HE CAN TACKLE.
HE MAKES THAT HE MAKES TACKLES
AND MAKE PEOPLE GO BACKWARDS.
MIKE: UNDERSIZED BY NFL
STANDARDS.
AT NO POINT WAS I LIKE HE IS TOO
SMALL.
HE PLAYS FEROCIOUSLY IN THE
LINEBACKER POSITION.
I WANT GUYS WHO ARE NOT AFRAID
AND TAKING ON GUYS WHO HAVE
100 POUNDS ON THEM AND ARE NOT
TRYING TO GET AROUND THE.
ARE NOT TRYING TO PUSSYFOOT AND
SWIM THEM.
HE PLAYS TOUGH HARD-NOSED
FOOTBALL.
COMING DOWNHILL AS A BLITZER, I
THOUGHT HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST
IN THE DRAFT CLASS.
HE WILL AT A MOMENTS NOTICE TRY
TO HIT A GAP THAT IS NOT THE
CORRECT CAP.
HE WILL GET DRAWN OUT OF
POSITION WITH A POND FAKE EVERY
SINGLE TIME ON HIS — THAT IS
THE WORRY WITH HIM.
I WILL TAKE MY CHANCES REIGNING
IN THE GUY WHO HAS THAT
AGGRESSIVENESS.
TRYING TO COACH AN UNAGGRESSIVE
GUY.
YOU NEVER COACH THAT DOWNHILL
ABILITY INTO THEM.
FOR JORDAN MAGEE, BIG FAN.
HE REMISE ME A FRANKIE LUVU WHO
THEY JUST SIGNED WITH THAT SAME
AGGRESSIVENESS ALTHOUGH HE IS
NOT A MASSIVE DUDE.
THEY ARE KIND OF FILLING THE
KITCHEN SINK AT THE LINEBACKER
POSITION ALONGSIDE DAVIS,
WAGONER, LUVO.
A NICE PLAYER TO ADD TO THE FOLD
WHO AT MINIMUM WILL BE A DOG ON
SPECIAL TEAMS.
MICHAEL: THEY HAVE THE
QUARTERBACK.
NEWTON UPFRONT.
MIKE: THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF GUYS.
MICHAEL: SINNOT, COLEMAN,
MCCAFFREY WHO WE LIKE.
AND JORDAN MAGEE.
MIKE: I WOULD SAY EVERY SINGLE
PLAYER EXCEPT FOR COLEMAN WAS
ONE THAT I WAS WATCHING THE
TAPE.
I WOULD GO TO BAT FOR THIS GUY.
I WOULD DRAFT.
COLEMAN IS THE ONE WHO IS LIKE
IF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM
AS A PROJECT I WOULD NOT HAVE
PICKED HIM.
67, DAY THREE.
EVERY OTHER GUY I WAS WATCHING.
THEY PLAY THE WAY I WANT THEM TO
PLAY FOOTBALL.
I LOVE THEIR SCOUTING METHOD.
AT MINIMUM WITH HOW THEY STARTED
TO REBUILD THIS WASHINGTON
COMMUNITY.
— COMMANDERS TEAM.
MICHAEL: HOW BIG OF A CHANGE IS
IT FROM THE SNYDER ERA?
MIKE: THEY FEEL COMPETENT.
THERE IS COMPETENCY.
THERE IS METHOD TO THIS.
ALL THESE GUYS PLAY IN A SIMILAR
MANNER.
THERE IS A COHESIVENESS TO YOUR
SCOUTING DEPARTMENT.
IN YEARS PRIOR IT ALMOST FELT
LIKE SCHNEIDER HAD HIS PICK AND
THAT HE WOULD GIVE THE COACHING
STAFF THERE PICK AND IT WOULD BE
SO STYLISTICALLY DIFFERENT GUYS
THEY ARE DRAFTING.
THEY WOULD DRAFT MANNED CORNERS
FOR A ZONE DEFENSE.
EMMANUEL FORBES GOING UP
AGAINST THE BIGGEST WIDE
RECEIVERS IN THE NFL.
WE DON’T SEE THE VISION.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A VISION.
THE BEST TEAMS IN THE NFL, THEY
ARE ALMOST LIKE — NOT TO SAY
PROTECT ABOUT THE DRAFT BUT THEY
HAVE A WAY OF DRAFTING.
THERE IS A GUIDELINE THAT GUIDES
THE DECISION-MAKING.
THEY ARE NOT JUST FLYING BY THE
SEAT OF THEIR PANTS.
MICHAEL: I LIKE IT.
HOW MUCH MORE TREAD ON THE
TIRES?
MIKE: THOSE TIRES ARE BOLD. —
BALD.
RUNNING ON TWO FLATS AND THEY
ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT TO
THE GAS STATION.
MICHAEL: WHAT ABOUT WATSON?
IS HE PASSED THE WINDOW
OF MATERIALIZING?
MIKE: I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS A
VETERAN SLOT TO GET HIM INTO A
GO.
IT STARTED AS A COME FROM EVERY
OPTION — A COMPLEMENTARY
OPTION.
THE PIECES ARE THERE FOR JADEN
DANIELS.
JUST PROTECT HIM.
YOU WILL SEE A REAL RPO
PLAY-ACTION RUN HEAVY START TO
HIS CAREER BECAUSE THE DROPBACK
PASSING GAME WILL BE ALMOST
UNTENABLE.
ESPECIALLY IN THAT DIVISION.
YOU TRY TO DO A SEVEN STEP OR A
FIVE-STEP GUN AGAINST HIS
COWBOYS PASS RUSH, AGAINST THE
EAGLES PASS RUSH FOUR TIMES A
YEAR, PRAY FOR JADEN DANIELS.
THEY WILL HAVE TO PROTECT HIM.
I THINK THEY ARE ADMITTING THAT
WITH THEIR DRAFT STRATEGY.
MICHAEL: 140.
CAM HART IS HEADING TO THE
CHARGERS.
I LIKE HIM.
I WILL LET YOU GO FIRST.
MIKE: HE IS BETTER THAN THIS.
IF HE FALLS AT THIS POINT IN THE
DRAFT, THERE’S SOME SERIOUS
SHOULDER INJURIES OVER THE
COURSE OF HIS CAREER.
REALLY STRUGGLED TO STAY
HEALTHY.
HE HAS A GREAT PRESS CORNER.
I THINK HE IS FANTASTIC AT THE
LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
SUPERLONG ARMS.
SO PRODUCTIVE THIS PAST SEASON.
I FLIPPED ON THE OHIO STATE TAPE
OF HIM GOING AGAINST MARVIN
HARRISON JUNIOR.
HE WINS AT THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE.
HE’S TRULY JUST A PRESS OUTSIDE
GUY.
I THINK, HARBAUGH WILL WANT TO
CHALLENGE GUYS.
HE DID THAT AT MICHIGAN NO
MATTER WHO HIS D.C. WAS.
THE 49ERS.
THAT IS WHAT WE WILL SEE FROM
HIM AND THAT IS WHAT HART’S
SKILL SET IS ON THE OUTSIDE.
MAN.
I CAN’T BE LASTED TO THIS POINT
IN THE DRAFT.
MAYBE FALLS HERE BECAUSE HE IS
NOT THE HIGHEST ATHLETE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE AT CENTER CAN
REALLY MOVE.
YOU HAVE SEEN THE CENTERS OFF
THE BOARD THAT ARE MORE
ATHLETIC.
AT 298 THE SIZE NEVER SHOWED UP.
HE’S A PHYSICAL 298.
MULTIYEAR STARTED FOR GEORGIA.
HELD HIS OWN IN THE SEC AGAINST
SEC LEVEL DT’S AND SIZE.
AND A DAY ONE STARTER.
THEY LOST MITCH MORSE OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK HE IS YOUR STARTING
CENTER.
MAYBE HE DOESN’T HAVE THE
HIGHEST CEILING.
FOR THE BUFFALO BILLS, YOU SEE
THE HIGHLIGHTS.
HE IS SUPER CONSISTENT
THROUGHOUT HIS COLLEGE CAREER.
I WOULD LOVE HIM WITH HIS
UNDERSIZED AND MILDLY ATHLETIC.
NOT A GREAT PROJECTION TO THE
NFL BUT TO BE A FIFTH ROUNDER, I
THINK IT’S A GREAT PICK.
MICHAEL: YOU THINK YOU WILL BE A
STARTER AND I THINK THAT’S A
GOOD THING.
COLEMAN.
MIKE: THAT IS YOURS EASILY.
MICHAEL: HIM AND SHAKEER.
MIKE: IT’S OBSCENE NOT IDEAL.
YOU ARE BEHIND A LOT OF OTHERS
AT THE TOP OF THE AFC.
YOU HAVE JOSH ALLEN.
YOU CAN SHARE A LOT OF BILLS AND
THAT’S MORE THAN GOOD ENOUGH TO
WIN GAMES.
COLE BISHOP, VERY MUCH — YOU
WERE NOT GOING TO LEAVE DAY 2
WITHOUT A SAFETY.
NO ELITE TALENT BUT A LOT OF
GUYS THAT CAN ROLL.
I HAVE THOSE GUYS BOTH RIGHT AT
THE BACK END OF MY TOP 100.
AND CEDRIC — SEDRICK VAN PRAN.
THEY ARE ALL GUYS I CAN SEE
FILLING EITHER WILL OR STARTING,
ESPECIALLY CARTER.
I THINK JOB WELL DONE FOR THE
BILLS.
I’M NOT SURE THEY GOT ANY PRO
BOWLERS OR ANY ALL-PRO’S BUT
THEY GOT STARTERS AND GUYS THAT
CAN PLAY AT THE NFL LEVEL WITH
EVERY SINGLE PICK SO FAR IN MY
OPINION.
FOR AS BAD AS THE SITUATION GOT
WHEN THEY HAD TO MOVE ON FROM
STEFAN DIGGS AND WHAT THEY WERE
UP AGAINST NOT BEING ABLE TO ADD
FREE AGENCY IN RECENT YEARS,
COULD NOT DO THAT THIS
OFF-SEASON.
THEY NEEDED THE DRAFT TO GET
STARTERS WHO ARE CHEAP ON ROOKIE
CONTRACTS AND THEY DID JUST
THAT.
MICHAEL: HE WILL BE A STARTER
FOR THEM.
HE IS A GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER.
I LOVE THE WAY HE WILL GET ON
THE MOVE.
I SAW THE FOOTAGE WHERE HE IS
OUT OF THE SCREENS.
IF YOU ARE A 195 POUND DEFENSE
OF BACK AND HE’S BARRELING DOWN
ON YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT.
— YOU DON’T WANT THAT.
COLTS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
YOU WANT TO DO THE RECAP LOWERS
THE PIC ALREADY IN?
THE COLTS ARE HAVING AN
INTERESTING DRAFT.
THERE WE GO.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH WE
LIKE THIS ONE.
WHAT CAN THEY DO TO MAKE YOU
LIKE IT MORE?
MIKE: DRAFT ONE OF THE GUYS IN
MY TOP — I HAVE SEVEN GUYS IN
MY TOP.
TAKE ONE OF THOSE BAD BOYS AND
WE CAN TURN THIS UP A NOTCH.
THEY HAVE TWO TOP 15 PLAYERS ON
MY BOARD.
THE DRAFTS ARE DEFINED MORE
OFTEN THEN NOT BY ONE AND
TWO.
TO GET TWO GUYS THAT ARE — LATU
IS THE MOST NFL READY RUSHER.
AND THEN MITCHELL WHO HAS A
CEILING THAT IS OFF THE CHARTS,
TO PAIR WITH MICHAEL PITTMAN.
ALEC PIERCE WAS NEVER A VIABLE
NUMBER TWO OPTION AND THAT
OFFENSE.
TO HAVE A DIFFERENT GEAR.
I LOVE THE RECEIVING CORE NOW.
THE COLTS HAD THEMSELVES A
DRAFT.
MORE SPEED.
ONE OF THE FASTEST PLAYERS IN
THE DRAFT CLASS.
I CALLED HIM A GADGET PLAY OR.
5’8", 174.
THIS AIN’T YOUR NUMBER TWO WIDE
RECEIVERS.
THEY HAVE THREE WIDE RECEIVERS.
THEY DON’T HAVE A LULL.
HE RUNS A DEEP POST, IT’S GOING
TO BE FREAK AND TOUGHER A SAFETY
TO REACT TO THAT IF YOU HAVE A
PLAY ACTION FAKE IN FRONT OF
THEM DRAWING UP INTO THE BOX
.
I PREFER COWING BUDDIES IN THE
MOLD OF GUYS DIFFICULT TO STICK
WITH BUT A TINY FRAME.
ANOTHER SUB 70 INCH
WINGSPAN.
HE OFFERS KICK RETURN
VERSATILITY.
WITH THE NEW KICKOFF RULES I
THINK WE WILL SEE SOME KICK
RETURNERS COME OFF THE BOARD
HERE.
THEY CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.
IT IS NOW KINDA VALUABLE TO HAVE
A GUY LIKE THAT.
RETURNS ARE GOING TO BE FAR MORE
FREQUENT WITH THE NEW 25 YARD
RULE.
MICHAEL: A LITTLE LATER I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I WAS MEANT TO ASK ABOUT COWING
COMPARED TO HIM.
THEY SEEM LIKE VERY SIMILAR
PLAYERS.
HE’S ONE OF THE MOST FUN TEAMS
TO WATCH AFTER DARK.
WE HAVE OUR WIDE RECEIVER DRAFT
RECAP.
HARRISON JUNIOR IS THE FIRST OF
THE BOARD.
NABERS OFF THE BOARD.
XAVIER WORTHY.
WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT WORTHY,
PEARSALL AND LEGETTE CAME OFTEN
THE FIRST ROUND?
MIKE: YES.
LEGETTE FISHER.
— FOR SURE.
THERE WERE THE TEAMS THAT NEEDED
IT AT THE BACK END OF ROUND ONE.
THE BILLS NEEDED IT.
THE 49ERS NEEDED IT.
THE CHIEFS NEEDED IT.
DOES NOT SURPRISE ME WHO
DRAFTED UP.
I LOVE THAT GUY.
I KNOW HE’S LOWER ON THE BOARD
BUT I’M ROOTING FOR HIM.
THAT IS A COUNTRY BOY.
MICHAEL: THAT MAN SOUNDS LIKE
HOME TO ME.
21ST HEARD HIS VOICE, OH YEAH.
DID YOU EXPECT THIS WAS TO COME
OUT OF THIS MAN?
YEAH.
HE’S FROM WHERE I’M FROM FULTON
MIKE: HAVE YOU HEARD OF SOUTH
CAROLINA?
MICHAEL: WE GET WALKER,
COWING, AND THROW ANTHONY GOLD
INTO THE MIX.
THE WIDE RECEIVERS, THE FIRST
THREE WERE JUST GONE.
HERE WE GO NOW.
A FEW MORE.
LOOPER CAFFREY — LUKE MCCAFFREY
LAST NIGHT.
WILSON GOT PICKED.
THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE.
THE FIRST THREE FELT OBVIOUS.
IT FELT LIKE WHAT YOU ARE
LOOKING FOR.
MIKE: THERE ARE THREE MORE GUYS
IN THIS CLASS.
I LOVE JAVON BAKER ON DAY 3.
I LIKE TROY FRANKLIN.
WALKER COULD MAKE AN IMPACT.
HE WILL LEVEL SUPPLANT YOUR
STARTERS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST
ROUND BUT HE WILL MAKE AN IMPACT
FOR THAT TEAM SPECIFICALLY.
I WILL GIVE THREE MORE GUYS WHO
I THINK I WOULD EXPECT TO FILL A
ROLE AND AT MINIMUM BE AT THE
NEXT LEVEL.
LUKE WASHINGTON, THE VIRGINIA
WIDE RECEIVER.
I LIKE JAELON KOGER, HOLY CROSS.
AWESOME HANDS.
PHYSICAL DUDE.
LOVE WHAT HE DID AGAINST D.C.
AND ISAIAH WILLIAMS.
DYNAMIC.
SMALL GUY.
THEY HAVE TO PLAY A CERTAIN
ROLE.
MICHAEL: VERY SPECIFIC.
MIKE: EXACTLY.
MICHAEL: THE FALCONS’ PICK IS
IN.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?
MIKE: DO WE HAVE TO TRY TO
PREDICT WHAT THE FALCONS ARE
GOING TO DO?
MICHAEL: I’M TALKING ABOUT WITH
KIRK COUSINS AND MICHAEL
PINNOCK.
MIKE: WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT THIS
MUCH.
ONE OF THE CRAZIEST QUOTES I
HAVE EVER SEEN A GM SAY.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT
LOGICALLY IT IS OUT OF THE
ABSURD.
IF MICHAEL PINNOCK DOES NOT HAVE
TO PLAY FOR FOR FIVE YEARS,
THAT’S A GOOD THING.
THOSE WORDS LEFT HIS MOUTH.
MICHAEL: I DID SEE THAT QUOTE.
MIKE: IF HE DOESN’T HAVE TO PLAY
FOR FOUR YEARS, YOU WERE NOT
PICKING UP — MAYBE YOU ARE
PICKING UP THE FIFTH-YEAR
OPTION.
AGAIN, IF HE DOES NOT PLAY FOR
FIVE YEARS YOU ARE ACTUALLY
HAVING TO RE-SIGN A QUARTERBACK
THAT IS NOT PLAYED A SNAP FOR
YOU.
MICHAEL: THAT’S THE END — SEE
UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS?
MIKE: I KNOW WHAT HE MEANT.
IT MEANS KIRK COUSINS IS PLAYING
WELL.
I GET THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
MICHAEL: 34, 36?
MIKE: 36.
THEY CANNOT CUT HIM UNTIL 2026
SEASON.
MICHAEL PINNOCK’S IN YOUR THREE.
$25 MILLION TO CUT HIM.
I CAN’T HATE THE THOUGHT
PROCESS.
MICHAEL: YOU CAN.
MIKE: BUT YOU’RE NOT COMPETING
HIGH INTO THE NFC RETINA.
GO IRISH.
MICHAEL: I LIKE THIS GUY.
HE’S A MOVER.
WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON HIM?
235.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A LITTLE
SMALLER THAN THAT.
MIKE: HE HAS A SMALLER FRAME.
MICHAEL: HE’S A GOOD FOOTBALL
PLAYER.
WHERE DO YOU THINK HE FITS IN ON
THIS DEFENSE?
MIKE: HE COULD START — THEY
DON’T HAVE MUCH AT LINEBACKER
RIGHT NOW.
I THINK HE WAS A LOW CEILING,
HIGH FLOOR TYPE OF LINEBACKER.
SOMEONE I WOULD HAVE ON HOLD AND
SPECIAL TEAMS.
DID NOT MAKE A LOT OF MISTAKES.
HE WILL GET STUCK ON BLOCKS.
HE IS NOT GOING TO RUN THE SCENE
WITH THE TIGHT ENDS.
GOOD FOOTBALL IQ.
SOLID ENOUGH TACKLER.
A GUY WHO WAS A THREE-YEAR
STARTER, TEAM CAPTAIN, ALTHOUGH
SORT OF THINGS. — ALL THOSE
SORTS OF THINGS.
HE MAY START.
HE TRULY MAY START FOR THE
FALCONS DEFENSE.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE A TRADE.
WE HAVE A TRADE.
TRADE ALERT.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE GOT.
THE BEARS ARE BACK IN.
A FUTURE PICK TO GET ON THE
CLOCK AT NUMBER 144.
MIKE: I NEED TO LOOK AT MY
KICKER RANKINGS REAL QUICK.
THE CHICAGO BEARS.
LONG SNAPPER RANKINGS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO
THROW IT BACK TO TORI TAYLOR.
MICHAEL: IF THAT HAPPENS.
MIKE: YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON
THEM, RIGHT IN THE BREADBASKET.
SOMEONE WITH GOOD POP TIME.
MICHAEL: THEY DRESSED
QUARTERBACK.
THEY HAVE WORKED TO ADDRESS
CORDA BACK — QUARTERBACK, WIDE
RECEIVER.
THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE
DEFENSE.
MIKE: SPENCER RATTLER.
HOW FUN WOULD THAT BE IS A PICK?
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
MICHAEL: WE WOULD LAUGH.
MIKE: WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD TIME.
CALEB WILLIAMS WOULD PROBABLY
ASK FOR A TRADE.
MICHAEL: HE WOULD LOSE HIS MIND.
MIKE: SOMEONE IS GOING TO TAKE
HIM SOON.
MICHAEL: SPENCER RATHER HAS TO
COME OFF THE BOARD SOON.
MIKE: THIS IS THE RANGE WHERE —
I DON’T THINK IT’S MUCH WORSE OF
A PROSPECT THAN SAM HOLLIS WHO
WAS YOUNGER WHEN HE CAME OUT.
YOU KNOW IS COMING ON THE BOARD
SOON?
LAS VEGAS RAIDERS.
BUT NOT BE SURPRISING IF THEY
WANT SPENCER.
MICHAEL: HOW MUCH BETTER DO YOU
THINK THEY GOT THIS OFF-SEASON?
MIKE: THE RAIDERS?
MICHAEL: THE BEARS, WHO ARE ON
THE CLOCK.
MIKE: MAYBE NOT OVERNIGHT
SUCCESS.
IT’S A ROOKIE QUARTERBACK.
WE ALWAYS SET EXPECTATION TO
HIGH FOR GUYS.
EVEN BOROUGH STRUGGLED AS A
ROOKIE.
TREVOR LAWRENCE.
THE HERBERTS.
C.J. STROUDS.
THEY ARE UNIQUE FOR REASON.
HOWEVER, JUST FROM A PURE ROSTER
PERSPECTIVE IF THEY ARE NOT IN
THE SUPER BOWL CONTENTION, CALEB
WILLIAMS’S YEAR TWO, I WILL BE
SURPRISED.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT WE GOT.
IS THAT YOUR GUY?
MIKE: TAKE ABOUT, DUDE.
BOOKER.
THAT’S WHAT THEY NEEDED.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIGGEST NEED
IN THE CLASS WAS EDGE.
AUSTIN BOOKER IS A WILDCARD
EDGE.
HOW HE PLAYS THE GAME.
HE IS UNDERSIZED.
YOU LOOK AT HIS TAPE AND HE IS
SKINNY, BUT IS ALSO YOUNG.
A REDSHIRT SOPHOMORE.
JUST OVER 500 SNAPS IN HIS
CAREER BUT HE’S FEROCIOUS OFF
THE EDGE.
BULL RUSHES AGAINST THE PACKERS
OFFENSIVE TACKLE THAT WERE
UNBELIEVABLE.
THREW HIM TO THE SIDE.
YOU SEE HIS ABILITY TO GET
SKINNY IN BETWEEN BLOCKS.
I LEFT HIM COMING AROUND ON
STUNTS.
HE CAN PLAY THE RUN.
YOU HAVE GOT TO HOLD THE POINT
GUY BUT HE CAN SWIM.
HE HAS AN INNATE FIELD TO DEFEAT
BLOCKS.
— FEEL TO DEFEAT BLOCKS.
YEAR TWO IN YOUR THREE IS ONE
ASPECT THE BEARS TO BE PLAYERS.
I THINK THE LIGHT WILL COME ON
FOR HIM.
IF HE HAD COME BACK TO SCHOOL
AND GAIN SOME MUSCLE, BUILT ON
THE TAPE WE SAW THIS PAST YEAR
HE COULD HAVE BEEN A FIRST ROUND
PICK.
MICHAEL: GREAT FOR THE BEARS
FANS.
MIKE: HE WAS ON MY BOARD HEADING
IN TODAY 3.
FOR THE NEED THEY HAD, DUDE.
THE DRAFT FROM THE CHICAGO
BEARS.
MICHAEL: SHOUT OUT TO TYLER
BOOKER SAID STOP LETTING THE
BEARS TAKE GOOD PLAYERS.
DO WE HAVE A BEARS DRAFT RECAP
SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY HAVE
DONE SO FAR?
MIKE: THE TOP TWO.
AMAGADJIE, TAYLOR, BOOKER.
MICHAEL: THEY HAVE STARTED TO —
THE PROTECTION PLAN BY
ADDING RYAN BATES IN FREE
AGENCY.
OR TRADE.
THEY ADDED AMEGADJIE TO HELP
THEM DEVELOP.
THEY ALREADY HAVE DARNELL
WRIGHT.
THIS WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING.
THE PIC IS IN FOR THE THE
BRONCOS.
THERE YOU GO.
I LIKE THIS PIC.
— PICK.
EXCEPT FOR ADDING BRADEN JONES
THEY HAVE NOT DONE MUCH IN TERMS
OF THE — THEY HAVE PAT ALREADY.
CADEN STERNS IS ONE OF THEIR
SAFETY.
THEY ADDED LEVI WALLACE.
DO YOU LIKE WALLACE?
MIKE: NOT ESPECIALLY.
I LIKE THE TAPE A LOT.
179.
HE HELD UP AS WELL.
HE DOESN’T HAVE QUITE THE
PHYSICAL TOOLS.
HE RANDY 4.40.
FAIRLY LONG ARMS FOR HIS SIZE.
I LOVE HIS TAPE AGAINST THE LSU
WIDE RECEIVERS.
30 PASS BREAKUPS IN THE LAST TWO
SEASONS.
I TRULY THINK HE’S MORE OF AN
OUTSIDE WIDE RECEIVER.
HE CAN COME UP FEISTY.
THE BILLS VERSUS THE RUN.
GOOD TACKLER EVEN IF HE CAN GET
BOLD OVER AT 179.
HE WILL NOT BE THE STRONGEST
TACKLER AT THAT SIZE.
OOF.
A DARN GOOD PLAYER.
I LIKE THIS DRAFT ON THE
BRONCOS.
KRIS ABRAMS-DRAINE STARTED AS A
WIDE RECEIVER.
WE SEE THE BALL SKILLS EVERY
TIME YOU FLIP ON THE TAPE WITH
HIM.
MICHAEL: RECOVERY IS A STRONG
SUIT FOR HIM.
I LIKE THE WAY HE SITS ON THE
BACK HIP AND TAKE WITH THE
SHOULDER FATE AND HE HAS THE
SPEED AT 4.44 TO RUN DOWN HIS
TROUBLES.
HE WILL GO FIND A WAY TO PLAY.
REMIND ME OF ELDER.
HE’S NOT AS BIG OF A CORNER BUT
HE PLAYS BIGGER THAN HE IS WITH
THE EXCEPTION OF TIMES WHEN,
GUESS WHAT?
BIG GUYS CAN PUSH HIM AROUND,
WHICH IS JUST A REALITY OF HIS
SIZE.
THE TITANS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
WHO SOME OF THE TITANS HAVE NOT
PICKED/
— PICK?
THAT DIVISION WILL BE
INTERESTING.
LET’S TALK ABOUT THAT.
LATHAM.
CEDRIC GRAY.
SWEAT.
BEEF, MORE BEEF, AND A
LINEBACKER THAT CAN RUN.
SWEAT IN FRONT OF GRAY.
MIKE: I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO
ADD A WIDE RECEIVER.
—
WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT
CALLAHAN IS BRINGING OVER
OFFENSE.
THAT IS WHEN HE RAN AND
CINCINNATI.
MAYBE THAT IS NOT WHAT HE WOULD
LIKE TO RUN IN TENNESSEE, BUT
THAT IS WHAT THEY DID SO WELL IN
CINCINNATI.
THAT IS THE THING, THEY
STILL HAVE THAT HANGING OVER,
AND I DO LIKE PHILLIPS AS A WIDE
RECEIVER, BUT IN THIS CLASS, YOU
COULD ADD MORE TO THE ROOM.
YOU COULD ALSO ADD MORE TO THE
OFFENSIVE LINE.
WE SHALL SEE.
MICHAEL: THAT IS THE PART THAT
IS INTERESTING TO ME.
THEY HAVEN’T — EXCUSE ME.
THEY DID GET LATHAM.
MIKE: OH, THEY WENT JARVIS
BROWNLEE.
MICHAEL: ADD A LITTLE BOOK.
AT A LITTLE BULK.
HE IS VERY GOOD.
I LOVE HOW PATIENT HIS FEET ARE.
WHENEVER HE CAN GET HIS HANDS ON
SOMEBODY, HE DOES REDIRECT THEM
AND DISRUPT TIMING FOR FOLKS,
WHO DON’T REALIZE, THE WHOLE
POINT IS TO DISRUPT TIMING
BECAUSE TIMING ROOMS ARE
ESSENTIAL.
YOU DISRUPT TIMING, THE
QUARTERBACK HAS TO WAIT.
NOW YOUR GUYS CAN GET TO THE
QUARTERBACK.
HE’S A QUALITY PICK.
MIKE: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT
BROWNLEE, NOBODY MADE MORE PLAYS
IN HIM.
HE HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF BASED
OFF OF ROUTE, AND BASED OFF OF
THE WIDE RECEIVER’S BODY
LANGUAGE WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO.
THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT AT THE
CORNERBACK POSITION, SO WHEN HE
RUNS A 451 AND HAS A VERTICAL,
KIND OF MID LENGTH ATHLETIC
TRAITS, HOW DOES A GUY MAKE UP
FOR IT?
WITH THE KIND OF VISION AND
INSTINCTUAL KNOWLEDGE THAT HE
HAS AT THAT POSITION, SO YOU
DON’T NEED HIM TO START, YOU
HAVE OTHER PLAYERS, AND YOU HOPE
YOU CAN GET SOMETHING FROM CALEB
FARLEY,, BUT I THINK THIS IS A
GUY THAT IF YOU NEED HIM TO FILL
IN I THINK CAN DO SO, AND HE CAN
PLAY MAN COVERAGE WITH THESE
GUYS THEY HAVE.
MICHAEL: YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE
HEAD IN TERMS OF HOW DO YOU MAKE
UP FOR THIS KIND OF MIDDLING
RESULTS.
KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
IT HAS KIND OF LIKE BEING A
PSYCHIC.
HE CAN ONLY GO THIS WAY.
HE IS LINED UP HERE.
THAT GIVES HIM A TWO WAY GO, SO
I NEED TO MAKE SURE I TAKE AWAY
ONE OF THOSE WAYS.
HE DOES A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
THAT IS GOOD COACHING.
HE WILL SPLIT YOU DOWN THE
MIDDLE AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT
IS WITH A WIDE RECEIVER LINED
UP, HE WILL SPLIT YOUR FEET TO
MAKE SURE YOU CANNOT GET ACROSS
HIS FEET INSIDE.
SOME GUYS DON’T LEARN THAT UNTIL
THEY GET TO THE NFL.
SOME GUYS ARE JUST HOT TO SIT
OUTSIDE WIDE — JUST HOT TO SIT
OUTSIDE WIDE — JUST TAUGHT
TO SIT OUTSIDE WIDE.
COULD TAKE.
MIKE: OH, WE ARE WATCHING SOME
HIGHLIGHTS.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO, THE
BRONCOS.
MIKE: 2/5 ROUNDERS.
MICHAEL: BACK ON THE CLOCK.
MIKE: THEY GOT BO NIX, THEY GOT
A PASS RUSHING PROJECT EARLIER
IN THE DRAFT.
I’M PROBABLY STILL LOOKING AT
THIS DEFENSE THOUGH.
JUST BECAUSE.
MICHAEL: THEY WILL START PLAYING
IN THE ZONE.
MIKE: AT THIS POINT, THAT IS ALL
YOU HAVE GOT HERE.
HOPEFULLY, THAT IS THE CASE.
MICHAEL: I’M ASKING BECAUSE I
MEAN HERE’S FROM 2018?
WHAT IS THIS?
DOES THAT MAKE SIX?
MIKE: I’M HOPING MORE WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN WITH TIM
PATRICK?
I HOPE HE IS BACK, HEALTHY
BECAUSE HIS LAST YEAR BEFORE HE
SIGNED THAT CONTRACT, AND THEN
THE WHEELS FELL OFF, HE WAS
GOOD.
HE HAD DEVELOPED INTO QUALITY
WIDE RECEIVER, SO THEY COULD USE
HIM RIGHT NOW.
THEY WENT WITH NOTRE DAME
RUNNING BACK, 20-YEAR-OLD,
ALDRICH ESTIME.
I CANNOT BELIEVE HE LASTED TO
THIS PART OF THE DRAFT.
HE IS KIND OF LIKE AP RYAN
HIMSELF.
HE IS AT 5’11", 221, GREAT
VISION, RAN A 4.71.
HE HAD THREE RUNS OVER 50 YARDS
THIS PAST YEAR.
HE WOULD RUN AWAY FROM DEFENSIVE
BACKS AT TIMES.
AND JUST REAL SMOOTH.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT HIS GAME IS
THAT HE WOULD HIT THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE AT FULL SPEED, AND
WHEN YOU HAVE THE SIZE ADVANTAGE
AND A BIG FRIEND DO, 221, BUT HE
LOOKS BIGGER BECAUSE HE HAS LONG
ARMS AND THICK LEGS, AND HE
WOULD ATTACK LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
AT FULL SPEED.
WHEN YOU HIT A LINEBACKER IN THE
HOLE AT FULL SPEED —
MICHAEL: YOU SAW IT RIGHT THERE.
MIKE: THAT WAS WILSON.
THEY JUST TOOK HIM OUT.
THAT HELPS A LOT.
THEY HAVE JOHNSON WILLIAMS,
AUDRIC ESTIME, I MEAN, WHAT IS
HE SLOT INTO THAT REMAINS TO BE
SEEN.
THEY HAVE THREE GUYS WHO CAN
OPERATE THE POWER RUN GAME IN
DENVER.
MICHAEL: THAT HELPS BO NIX.
HAS JUST HANDED OFF.
LET’S HAND IT OFF UNTIL YOU
FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
FOR SEAN PAYTON, THAT HAS GOT TO
MAKE HIM FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE
IN TERMS OF HE CAN HAND IT OFF.
I DON’T HAVE TO MAKE THIS KID
DRINK FROM THE FIREHOSE IN TERMS
OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH
MY OFFENSE.
I WILL NOT ASK THEM TO BE DREW
BREES.
I CAN LET HIM HANDED OFF, LEARN
THIS PART AND THEN WE WILL
FIGURE OUT THE REST.
MIKE: THIS IS AN OFFENSIVE LINE
THAT WHILE IT ISN’T GREAT BY ANY
MEASURE, IT IS A BETTER RUN
BLOCKING OFFENSIVE LINE THAN A
PAST ONE.
THOSE ARE RUN BLOCKER FIRST
PASS PROTECTOR SECOND KIND OF
OFFENSIVE MINING.
TEST OFFENSIVE MINING —
OFFENSIVE MINING.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
THE RAIDERS SELECTED OHIO STATE
LINEBACKER TOMMY AIKEN BERG —
TOMMY EICHENBERG.
MIKE:EICHENBERG WAS SUPER
PRODUCTIVE A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AFTER
2022 WITH THINKING HE COULD BE A
TOP 50, LIKE A JACK CAMPBELL
INTO THE FIRST ROUND BECAUSE HE
WAS SO PRODUCTIVE, HE IS SUCH A
STEADY PLAYER, DOESN’T MAKE A
TON OF MISTAKES AT THE SECOND
LEVEL, BUT I THOUGHT HE GOT
EXPOSED ATHLETICALLY.
HE IS OUT IN SPACE, AND IT IS
DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO TRACK DOWN
BALLCARRIERS.
BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE A TAKEDOWN
GUY BETWEEN TACKLES AND A RUN
DEFENDER AND HAVE HIM CLEAN UP
STUFF AND THAT SORT OF THING,
HE’S GOOD AT THAT.
6’2", 233, DID NOT RUN A
PRE-DRAFT 40 AND I WOULD NOT
EXPECTED TO BE BELOW 4.70.
TONY PIERCE WANTS GUYS WHO PLAY
THE RIGHT WAY.
MICHAEL: HE’S LIKE MAX BOEHM, HE
MAKES PLAYS.
THAT IS WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO
DO.
IF YOU ASK HIM TO COVER A TIGHT
END 15 YARDS DOWN THE FIELD, HE
WILL BE IN TROUBLE.
IF HE SOMEHOW GETS SWITCHED TO
THE SLOT, HE WILL BE IN TROUBLE.
THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT.
MIKE: SOMEHOW.
I WOULD HOPE HE DOESN’T.
HOPING YOU ARE NOT LEAVING HIM
OUT THERE IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
MICHAEL: THAT’S THE THING.
WHAT I’M WATCHING, I’M WATCHING
FROM A COLLEGE STANDPOINT, I’M
WATCHING WHERE HE HAS TO COME
OFF THE FIELD.
AND IF HE IS GOING TO BE THE
LEADER FOR DEFENSE BUT STILL HAS
TO COME OFF THE FIELD, THAT IS A
TOUGH ASK.
THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS
THINKING, BUT, AGAIN, HE MAKES A
PLAY HERE AND GETS SOME ACTION.
RECENT ADDITIONS, THEY HAVE
ROCKED HOURS — BROCK BWOERS,
POWERS-JOHNSON, GLAZE, TOMMY
EICHENBERG.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE ANY OF THESE
ARE BIG REACHES IN TERMS OF
IDENTITY?
WE TALKED ABOUT HOW A LOT OF
TEAMS WHEN THEY TRY TO SWITCH
THEIR IDENTITY OR BUILDING
IDENTITY, THEY REACH.
EVEN THE RAIDERS BEFORE SEEM
LIKE THEY REACHED FOR GUYS.
YOU FIELD THESE ARE GOOD?
MIKE: I FEEL LIKE IT WAS A BEST
PLAYER AVAILABLE AT THE
POSITIONS WE WANT.
WE WANT TO BEEF UP THE LINEUP,
WE WANT PASS CATCHERS, BOWERS,
WE WANT GUYS ON DEFENSE IN THE
LINEBACKING CORE BECAUSE WE HAVE
UNDERSIZE DUDES RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS WHAT I FELT LIKE IT WAS,
AND I DON’T FEEL LIKE ANY OF
THOSE GUYS, GLAZE MAY BE A
TOUCH, THE REST, LIKE
POWERS-JOHNSON AND BWOERS ARE —
BOWERS ARE A VALUE ON MY BOARD.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE NOT
WILLING TO FRAME THESE
QUARTERBACKS, WHICH, HEY, THAT
IS YOUR EITHER — YOU ARE
EVAL, THEN YOU ARE STUCK WITHOUT
A QUARTERBACK.
I DO THINK THIS WAS JUST A FAR
CRY FROM THE PREVIOUS REGIMES
THAT WE HAVE SEEN THERE IN
VEGAS/THE RAIDERS FRANCHISE.
MICHAEL: THE AD — THE BENGALS
ARE ON THE CLOCK, JERMAINE
VEREEN, TEE HIGGINS AND JAMAR
CHASE.
OK, THEIR PICK IS IN.
MIKE: I LIKE THIS GUY.
MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT, JOSH NEWTON,
CORNER FROM TCU.
I LIKE THEM, TOO.
MIKE: AT THIS POINT IN THE
DRAFT, I LIKE HIM.
MICHAEL: HE REMINDS ME OF JAYCEE
HORN.
MIKE: STYLISTICALLY.
HE WILL CHALLENGE GUYS.
MICHAEL: YES.
HE IS NOT AFRAID OF CHALLENGES,
BUT HE PLAYS IN THE SAME STYLE.
QUALITY MEN CORNER.
HE IS WILLING TO TACKLE, AND HE
CAN CONTRIBUTE END ZONE, BUT I
LIKE HIM AS A MAN CORNER, THE
SAME PLACE I LIKE JAYCEE HORN.
JAYCEE HORN A LITTLE BETTER
ATHLETICALLY AND MORE PHYSICAL,
BUT HE IS A PHYSICAL GUY.
MIKE: HE IS A SUPER PHYSICAL AT
THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE GUY.
AND THE WORRY AT THIS POINT IN
THE DRAFT, DESPITE TAPES I
THOUGHT WERE SOLID, CLAIMANT
COVERAGE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MAN
COVERAGE AT THE NFL
LEVEL.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPEED AND LONG
ARMS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT ASPECT TO
YOUR GAME.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING YOU
CAN WIN WITH.
IF YOU RAN A 4.51, ONLY 190
POUNDS, THERE’S NOT MUCH TO BANK
ON HIM BEING ABLE TO TRANSLATE
THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
THAT IS WHY HE FALLS HERE.
MICHAEL: THERE IT IS.
MIKE: THERE HE COMES OFF THE
BOARD, THE SAINTS.
MICHAEL: SPENCER RATTLER,
OKLAHOMA BY WAY OF SOUTH
CAROLINA.
QUARTERBACK.
BIG GUY WHO LAST TO WILLIAMS AND
THEN ULTIMATELY REBUILD HIMSELF
WITH THE GAMECOCKS.
LET’S GET INTO IT BECAUSE HE WAS
ON OUR LIST.
MIKE: RATTLER, I THOUGHT IF YOU
WENT TO SOMEWHERE BESIDES SOUTH
CAROLINA, A SCHOOL, LIKE
TENNESSEE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN
DRAFTED A LOT HIGHER.
HE WAS PLAYING BEHIND THE WORST
OFFENSIVE LINE.
I GO TO GAMES LIKE THE CLEMSON
GAME, AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT COULD
HE HAVE EVEN DONE?
THE FACT HE KEPT FIGHTING AND
WOULD NOT PUT THE BALL IN HARM’S
WAY DESPITE THAT AND WOULD NOT
TAKE A TON OF SACKS, I LOVE HIS
POCKET MOVEMENT.
HE HAS A REAL LIVE ARM.
WAS IT LINCOLN RILEY WHO SAID HE
WAS THE BEST THROWER HE HAS EVER
SEEN.
HE IS.
THAT IS WHY HE WAS A FIVE-STAR
AND GETTING THE HYPE YOU WAS
WHEN HE WAS A REDSHIRT FRESHMAN
STARTER AT OKLAHOMA.
HE IS ONLY SIX FOOT TALL, HE
DOESN’T HAVE THE IDEAL SIZE FOR
THE POSITION.
HE THINKS HE IS A LITTLE MORE
ATHLETIC THAN HE IS.
HE TRIES TO MAKE PLAYS, BUT HE
ISN’T ATHLETIC.
BUT THIS GUY HAS A BIG ARM.
HIS PERFORMANCE THIS PAST SEASON
WAS BETTER THAN THE STATS
SUGGEST BECAUSE THE TALENT
AROUND HIM WAS TOUGH, AND EVERY
GAME WAS A SLOG FOR HIM.
LOOK AT THAT, JUST TRYING TO
MAKE ANY PLAYS ON TAPE.
HE HAS MATURED BY ALL MEASURES,
AND FOR THE SAINTS TO GET HIM
HERE, OBVIOUSLY, THEY DO NOT
WANT TO HAVE DEREK CARR THERE,
NO FANS WOULD LIKE HIM THERE,
BUT HE’S UNDER CONTRACT TWO MORE
YEARS.
BUT AT LEAST TO HAVE
DEVELOPMENTAL FORM.
THIS IS AN A PLUS PICK.
THIS IS A VALUABLE POSITION THAT
COULD PAY OFF BIG DIVIDENDS WITH
WHAT WE SAW FROM RATTLER IN HIS
DEVELOPMENT IN COLLEGE, SO I
LIKE IT.
MICHAEL: I LIKE IT, TOO.
WE ARE WALKING IN LOCKSTEP, I’M
GOING A PLUS, AS WELL.
I WILL READ THE NUMBERS, SOUTH
CAROLINA, 118TH SACKS ALLOWED
THROUGH 12 GAMES, THEY GAVE UP
41.
41 SACKS.
MIKE: AND HE WAS HOLDING ONTO
THE BALL, RIGHT?
MICHAEL: NO, HE WAS MOVING.
HE CAN SLUG.
THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE.
IT IS NOT HYPERBOLE.
MIKE: BEAUTIFUL RELEASE AND
GREAT MECHANICS.
MICHAEL: IT IS ALL TECHNIQUE,
ALL PERFECT, ALL SHORTSTOP,
UNDER CONTROL, AND I DO AGREE
THAT HE ISN’T AS ATHLETIC AS HE
THINKS HE IS, BUT THEN HE MAKES
A PLAY LIKE THIS AND HE’S LIKE,
I CAN DO IT.
MIKE: AND HE TRIES TO RUN AWAY
FROM THE DEFENSIVE END.
MICHAEL: EXACTLY.
LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL BALL.
COME ON.
I THINK THAT RATTLER IS GOING TO
BE SOMEONE THAT — LISTEN, YOU
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON
AND BUILD WITH.
AND THEN YOU SEE WHAT HE WILL
GIVE YOU THERE, AND BY GETTING
HIM IN THE FIFTH ROUND, YOU ARE
GETTING A STEAL.
THAT IS WHY THAT IS IN A CLASS.
MIKE: HE SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN
DRAFTED THIS LATE.
WE TALK ABOUT THE RAIDERS, MAYBE
THEY DON’T WANT TO ADD MORE TO
THE MIX BECAUSE HE WAS A
MID-ROUNDER, TOO, BUT I WOULD
HAVE ADDED MORE TO THE MIX.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE TEAMS THAT
ARE IN SIMILAR VEIN TO THE
SAINTS, AND ONE LIKE — I WILL
SEE, HE TRIES THINGS MORE
ATHLETIC THAN HE IS.
BUT HE ALSO DOES NOT ATTACK DOWN
THE FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY THINK
YOU SHOULD WITH HIS ARM TALENT.
HIS VISION IN TERMS OF WHEN TO
TAKE CHANCES AT THAT LEVEL WAS
POOR, DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO
HIS TIME IN ARIZONA.
THOSE ARE YOUR WEAKNESSES.
BUT A GUY, LIKE SAM HOWELL
SHOULD HAVE GONE HIGHER.
I FEEL LIKE HE’S ABOUT THE SAME
WAY LIKE RATTLER.
MICHAEL: DEREK CARR, GET READY
TO LEARN CLIPBOARD IN A YEAR,
BUDDY.
IT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING
BECAUSE THEY DID GET CARR SOME
MONEY.
MIKE: THEY STUCK HIM THERE,
BASICALLY THIS YEAR, THEY ARE
STUCK WITH HIM.
NEXT YEAR, THEY COULD GET OUT
FROM UNDER IT, BUT IT WILL BE
TOUGH TO DO SO IF THAT IS THE
CASE.
MICHAEL: COLTS GET ANOTHER PIC,
SAFETY, JAYLON CARLIES.
MIKE: A GUY WHO WAS OFF MY
WATCHLIST, UNFORTUNATELY.
IF YOU HAVE WATCHED HIM, YOU
WILL HAVE TO LET ME KNOW.
A MASSIVE DUDE.
6’3".
MICHAEL: THIS MAN IS SUPER
AGGRESSIVE AND VERY STRONG.
I DON’T MEAN TO BE LOFTY, BUT HE
HAS GOT THIS — SHE WAS GIVING
ME THIS KNOCKOFF JONES WHEN HE
WAS AT LSU.
I KNEW HIS CAREER WAS OVER, BUT
CHAD JONES WHEN HE WAS AT LSU,
THE DREADLOCKS WERE DOING, HE
HAS THAT LEVEL OF AGGRESSION,
AND HE IS A MASSIVE DUDE THAT IS
VERY STRONG AND SUPER
AGGRESSIVE.
SO, THERE WE GO.
MIKE: CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE QB
CLASS?
THOSE WERE THE GUYS THAT YOU
WANT IN THIS QUARTERBACK CLASS,
THE SIX THAT CAME OFF THE BOARD
IN THE ROUND, AND THEN CALEB
WILLIAMS WAS —
MICHAEL: HE JUST HAD A BAD
ACCIDENT.
MIKE: SO WHAT A DICHOTOMY OF SIX
GUYS IN THE TOP 12, ALL THE WAY
DOWN TO 150.
YOU MAY NOT SEE ANOTHER ONE COME
OFF THE BOARD —
MICHAEL: IT WAS THE NEXT ONE?
MIKE: GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK WE MIGHT SEE JORDAN
TRAVIS.
MICHAEL: JORDAN TRAVIS?
MIKE: EVEN COMING OFF THE ANKLE,
BUT I DO THINK QUARTERBACK
SPECIFIC INJURIES ARE NOT THE
SAME.
LIKE WHOSE CAREER HAS BEEN
DERAILED BY INJURY?
IT’S NOT A LOT LIKE OTHER
POSITIONS BECAUSE IT IS NOT
ATHLETICISM.
QB CLASS, IT GOES CALEB, JAYDEN,
DRAKE, THE TWO BIG SURPRISES,
PENIX, NIX, PROPS ON THEM INTO
THE DRAFT WAS LIKE 32.5 TO BE
FIRST ROUNDERS.
PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD FALL OUT,
AND THEY BOTH WERE TOP 12.
AND THEN MCCARTHY TO MINNESOTA.
WHICH ONE HAD THE BEST ROOKIE
SEASON?
RATTLER NOT STARTING.
PENIX NOT STARTING.
DO ALL FIVE START OUTSIDE OF
THEM?
MICHAEL: WILLIAMS STARTS,
DANIELS —
MIKE: WEEK ONE?
MICHAEL: YEAH, WEEK ONE.
MIKE: MCCARTHY?
MICHAEL: MCCARTHY CAN BEAT —
MIKE: I COULD SEE GUYS THERE WHO
ARE NOT COMPLETE’S LACKEYS.
MICHAEL: TALKING ABOUT TRADE ON
THE TIRES, THIS IS HIS SECOND
TIME.
MIKE: HE IS GOING TO DO THE JOSH
JOHNSON CAREER PATH AND PLAY
EVERY SINGLE TEAM BY THE END OF
HIS CAREER.
MICHAEL: I THINK —
MIKE: IT IS YOUR FAVE — GIVE US
YOUR FAVE.
MICHAEL: JAYDEN DANIELS.
I LIKED HIM THE MOST IN TERMS OF
PLAY PER HE’S THE ONLY ONE OF
THE GUYS WHO HAS PLAYED FOR AN
NFL COACH.
THAT’S WRONG, JJ MCCARTHY, TOO.
BUT HE ALSO PLAYED IN AN ACTUAL
OFFENSE, NOT JUST LIKE GIVE THE
BALL OFFENSE.
SO I’M GOING TO GO WITH DANIELS.
MIKE: I WILL SEE CALEB WILLIAMS
BECAUSE NOBODY EVEN COMES CLOSE
TO THAT SITUATION.
THAT IS PRIMO TO PUT A
QUARTERBACK IN.
MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT, THE EAGLES
TAKE AINIAS SMITH.
HAS IT BEEN TWO YEARS?
MIKE: IT HAS BEEN FIVE YEARS, HE
WAS A FRESHMAN STARTER FOR THEM
BACK IN 2019.
MICHAEL: I’M THINKING ABOUT WHEN
IT WAS — I GUESS — YOU ARE
RIGHT.
MAYBE IT WAS THREE YEARS WHEN IT
WAS HIM AND —
MIKE: THAT WAS 2021.
MICHAEL:MICHAEL: THEY LOOKED
ALMOST INTERCHANGEABLE.
MIKE: YOU TALK ABOUT GUYS NOT
DEVELOPING, HE’S LIKE THE POSTER
BOY.
HE WAS GOOD AS A FRESHMAN.
NEVER REALLY TOOK THE NEXT STEP,
AND NOW ALWAYS A UNIQUE BODY
TYPE.
HE’S 5’9", 190 WITH SHORT ARMS,
AND HE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE
PLAYED RUNNING BACK.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE HIM IN
SHIBLI, BOTH GUYS WHO ARE
INTERCHANGEABLE SORT OF RUNNING
BACK, WIDE RECEIVER GUYS, JUST
AS FLEXIBILITY FOR WHAT HE CAN
DO.
I DO THINK THAT HIS BIGGEST
THING, NOT THAT SPAT — NOT THAT
FAST.
4.45 SPEED.
I WAS NOT SUPER HIGH ON HIM, BUT
THIS IS ABOUT RANGE.
I WOULD HAVE HAD HIM OFF THE
BOARD, SO I WILL GO B+.
MICHAEL: I MEAN, I LIKE HIM.
THEY ARE GETTING PIECES.
WHAT DID YOU GIVE IT, A B+?
I WILL GIVE IT A-.
I THINK HE HAS THE ABILITY, EVEN
THOUGH HE DOESN’T HAVE THE TRUE
SPEED.
WHEN YOU’RE WATCHING THE GAME,
THERE IS A SUDDENNESS.
THAT SUDDENNESS IS WHAT HAS
ALLOWED HIM TO CREATE SPACE.
THE LACK OF DEVELOPMENT, I THINK
THAT IS A TEXAS A&M THING, NOT A
HIM THING, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT ALL THESE TEXAS AND THEM
PLAYERS ARE GETTING BETTER —
TEXAS A&M PLAYERS NOT GETTING
BETTER, THAT IS NOT HIM.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW THIS SHAKES OUT.
HE MENTIONED SHIPLEY, NOW WE
HAVE SMITH, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK
LIKE?
MIKE: A GOOD ONE, OBVIOUSLY.
MICHAEL: HE IS IN A LEAGUE ALL
BY HIMSELF, BUT WHAT ARE WE
DOING?
GAIN WELL LOOKS LIKE HE IS
ESTABLISHED, SHIBLI IS BEING
SLOTTED IN AS RUNNING BACK, AND
THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY
INTERESTING.
WE KNOW THEY LOVE SMITH, A JIM
BROWN, WHERE IS THE SPACE WHERE
THESE GUYS IF THEY CHANGE
POSITIONS?
MIKE: YOU HAVE PARRIS CAMPBELL
THERE.
WE WILL SEE.
THEY ARE KIND OF THIN.
THEY OR SOME WHAT AT WIDE
RECEIVER.
BUT AFTER THAT, WRITTEN COVEY —
IT IS JUST NOT THAT GOOD.
AND I’M SURPRISED IT WOULD NOT
HAVE BEEN WASHINGTON.
COMPARING THOSE TWO, I THOUGHT
WASHINGTON STATE WAS LIGHT YEARS
BETTER.
BUT THEY ARE SIMILAR PLAYERS.
MICHAEL: IT IS WHILE HE DID NOT
GET BETTER.
IT IS.
IT IS FRUSTRATING, TOO.
THEY LOOK, AGAIN, THEY FELT —
PAYMENT AJ COLE LIKE THEY WERE
INTERCHANGEABLE — AJ FELT
LIKE THEY WERE INTERCHANGEABLE.
IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE NUMBERS, I
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN CONFUSED
CONSTANTLY.
SAME BODY TYPE.
MICHAEL: DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU
ARE DOING, IT WAS WILD.
THE JAGUARS ARE BACK ON THE
CLOCK, PICK 153.
THE JAGUARS ARE UP.
MIKE: THEY HAD A BULKY DRAFT.
AND THEY DRAFTED EVERY GUY WHO
WAS LIKE 35 IN TERMS.
MICHAEL: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF,
WHAT?
JONES, EVERYBODY ELSE’S THERE.
AND BRIAN THOMAS.
MIKE: AND HE HAS WIDE ARMS, TOO,
FOR A WIDE RECEIVER.
HE IS A LONG FRAME DUDE.
HE HAS THE SKILL SET AND USAGE,
AND THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
MISSING.
MICHAEL: SURE.
MIKE: I HAVE HATED HIM A LOT OF
THEIR RECENT DRAFTS, AND THEY
HAVE NOT GOTTEN A LOT OF
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM RECENT DRAFTS
BUT THIS ONE I THINK WILL
CONTRIBUTE.
DEANTE PRINCE — DEANTRE PRINCE.
MICHAEL: DO YOU THINK THAT IS TO
THEM NOT DRAFTING EARLIER?
MIKE: THEY NEEDED DEPTH THAN I
EXPECTED THEM TO ADDRESS IN
NUMEROUS WAYS, AND THAT IS
ANOTHER WAY OF ADDRESSING IT,
TRUTHFULLY.
MICHAEL: I LIKE THE WAY THAT HE
PLAYS FLAT-FOOTED, AND THAT IS A
FIRST DOWN SITUATION.
THE ME, THAT IS MORE OF AN
INSIDE GUY SITUATION.
BUT HE — I DON’T LOVE WHEN HE
IS BACKPEDALING.
AGAIN, THERE HE IS MORE
FLAT-FOOTED AND HE CAN MAKE THE
TACKLE.
I LIKE WHEN HE IS FLAT-FOOTED.
I DON’T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT
TRANSLATES ALL THE TIME TO THE
NEXT LEVEL, BUT I DO KNOW THAT
IF YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY — IF
YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY IN THE
INSIDE SPOT AND THAT TOUGH
TECHNIQUE, YOU HAVE TO BE
FLAT-FOOTED AND GET THE HANDS-ON
TO REDIRECT THE GUY.
THAT IS THE THING HE DOES PRETTY
WELL.
MIKE: FOR THE JAGUARS NOW, YOU
REALLY NEED SOME OF THOSE YOUNG
GUYS THAT YOU HAVE DRAFTED IN
RECENT YEARS TO STEP IT UP.
GUYS LIKE DEVIN LLOYD.
AND YOU NEED WALKER TO TAKE IT
TO THE NEXT LEVEL, AND THEY NEED
TO START HITTING, MAN.
TOO MANY OF THEIR RECENT DRAFT
PICKS, HAVE JUST KIND OF BEEN OK
AND I THINK THAT IS HOW YOU GO
FROM A TEAM WITH SO MUCH PROMISE
IN THE PLAYOFFS WITH THAT
MASSIVE COMEBACK TO MISSING IT
ON THE SEASON.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE BRENNAN JACKSON
, EDGE GUY OUT OF WASHINGTON
STATE.
HE IS GOING TO THE RAMS.
DO WE HAVE A TRADE?
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON RIGHT
NOW.
FROM A DRAFT DAY STANDPOINT.
MIKE: IS PHILLY COMING BACK UP?
MICHAEL: LOOKS LIKE PHILLY IS
COMING BACK UP.
I ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE
KEY ON MY COMPUTER AND LOST
EVERYTHING.
MIKE: DID YOU JUST ELIMINATE ALL
THE WINDOWS?
I LOVE WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
MICHAEL: SO, YEAH, BRENNAN
JACKSON, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
MIKE: HE IS WELL-BUILT, 266
POUNDS, POWERFUL EDGE IN THAT
MOLD OF IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE
TRYING TO ADD JARED VERSE IN THE
FIRST ROUND, BRENNAN JACKSON IS
THAT, AS WELL, SO GUYS WHO CAN
PUSH THE POCKET.
HE IS NOT AN EDGE VENDOR.
MICHAEL: NOT AT ALL.
MIKE: HE IS A POWER PLAYER,
MAYBE AN INTERIOR RUSHER ON
THIRD DOWNS.
MICHAEL: IF YOU DON’T BLOCK HIM
—
MIKE: IT IS EASIER TO LOOK GOOD
WHEN THEY DON’T BLOCK YOU.
I WILL SAY THAT, BUT LOOK AT
THAT.
A LINEAR PLAYER.
AGAIN, THAT IS KIND OF WHAT
BYRON YOUNG IS, TOO, SO THEY
WANT POCKET COLLAPSE THERE’S.
THAT IS KIND OF WHAT THEY HAVE.
MICHAEL: THE EAGLES GET ANOTHER
PICK.
THERE YOU GO.
WOW.
THIS IS, I MEAN, OK, JEREMIAH
TROTTER JUNIOR.
I REALLY LIKE THIS GUY.
MIKE: YOU GO OFF.
MICHAEL: I REALLY LIKE WATCHING
HIM PLAY.
I WILL GIVE THIS A+.
WHAT HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST
LINEBACKERS IN HIS CLASS.
IS MEASURABLE’S DID NOT QUITE
MEASURE UP, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT
HIM, HE IS A LEADER.
HE FITS IN, THE FACT THAT HE
WILL BE PLAYING WITH COLBY DEAN,
LET’S GO.
THEY WILL HAVE REALLY GOOD
LINEBACKERS THERE, AND THIS IS A
TEAM IN PHILLY — LISTEN.
HE IS BLOCKED UP, FIND A WAY,
GET IT.
I LIKE THAT.
I’M CURIOUS TO SEE, BEFORE YOU
GIVE YOUR TAKE, WHAT DO YOU
THINK THEY THINK?
MIKE: THIS IS A THIRD-YEAR
PLAYER COMING OUT.
USUALLY THOSE GUYS COMING OUT,
YOU COME OUT BECAUSE YOU GOT A
GOOD DAY TWO GRADE, FALLS ALL
THE WAY TO THE FIFTH.
EVEN I THINK — I DO NOT LOVE
HIS TAPE.
I THINK IT IS STILL A GOOD VALUE
PICK.
OBVIOUSLY, HIS FATHER PLAYING IN
THE NFL, HE’S BEEN WATCHING
SINCE HE WAS YOUNG.
AND IT SHOWS, THE SAME WAY IT
SHOWS WITH MARVELOUS JUNIOR.
HE IS SIX FOOT, 228, SMALL
LINEBACKER.
HE IS NOT A HIGH-END ATHLETE.
JUST AN AVERAGE ATHLETE, AND IN
THE NFL, YOU CAN BE UNDERSIZED,
YOU CAN BE AN OK ATHLETE BUT YOU
CANNOT BE BOTH.
AND THEY WORRY ABOUT THAT WITH
HIM.
AND HIM AND DEAN ARE ON THE
SMALLER SIDE.
BUT BOTH SUPER INSTINCTUAL, SO
TWO GUYS YOU CAN REALLY HANDLE
NFL DEFENSES.
BASICALLY GET EVERYONE ELSE
LINED UP.
IA WILL GO — I WILL GO A.
MICHAEL: THERE IS REAL INTRINSIC
VALUE TO HAVING TWO GUYS WHO
WILL GET EVERYONE LINED UP AND
GET THEMSELVES LINED UP AND MAKE
SURE THAT THEY GO OUT AND MAKE
PLAYS.
THAT’S IMPORTANT.
HE MENTIONED THIS TIME AND
AGAIN.
COMING FROM AN NFL PEDIGREE, HE
GREW UP IN THE LOCKER ROOM AND
UNDERSTANDS HOW TO BE
PROFESSIONAL.
THERE IS NO WORRY ABOUT HIM AT
ALL ABOUT GETTING INTO THE
LOCKER ROOM, KNOWING WHAT TO DO
AND HOW TO WORK.
WHEN YOU COME IN WITH THE GUY
NAKOBE DEAN ALREADY THERE, THIS
WILL BE A HARD-WORKING DEFENSE,
AND THEY CAN CORRAL THOSE OTHER
GUYS, JORDAN DAVIS, JAYLIND
CARTER, AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
GUYS STAY ON THE STRAIGHT AND
NARROW AND THEY ARE STUDYING AND
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED
TO DO.
I THINK THERE IS REAL
MIKE: FOR THE EAGLES, THE
STRATEGY, THEY ARE NOT GOING
LINEBACKERS EARLY.
THEY ARE HOPING TO HIT ON
LINEBACKERS LATER IN THE DRAFT.
MICHAEL: BROWN’S SELECT WIDE
RECEIVER JAMARI THRASH.
MIKE: HE IS DYNAMIC.
4.46 SPEED.
MAYBE EVEN LOOKS A LITTLE FASTER
THAN THAT ON TAPE.
HE CAN RUN ROUTES BETTER THAN
SOME OF THE GUYS WHO HAVE COME
OFF THE BOARD EARLY.
HE HAS SOME REAL SHAKE, SOME
SUDDENNESS.
SOME OF THE WORST HANDS, ONE OF
THE WORST DROP RATES IN THIS
CLASS.
MADE ALMOST NO PLACE THROUGH
CONTACT.
IF YOU ARE ONE-ON-ONE, MAN
COVERAGE, HE CAN RUN.
PRETTY COMPLETE ROUTE TREE.
HE WAS FAIRLY PRODUCTIVE BETWEEN
GEORGIA STATE AND LOUISVILLE.
THE BROWNS, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE
DEEP IN PLACE.
I TRUST HIM TO SEPARATE MORE
THAN CEDRIC TILLMAN OR DAVID
BELL.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE CONTESTED
CATCH GUYS.
MICHAEL: I THINK WE HAVE A
PLAYER TRADE.
MIKE: UH OH.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
THE PANTHERS ARE ON THE CLOCK
RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A PLAYER TRADE.
TRADE ALERT.
THERE WE GO.
MIKE: JOHN FRANKLIN-MYERS, WHO
HAS STARTED 50 GAMES, TO THE
BRONCOS IN EXCHANGE FOR A 2026
SIXTH ROUND PICK.
THAT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE
BRONCOS.
MICHAEL: DO YOU WANT TO GRADE
THE TRADE?
WHAT ARE THEY GETTING?
2026 SIXTH ROUND PICK.
IS THAT GOOD?
WHO WINS?
MIKE: THE BRONCOS.
IT IS A BETTER PLAYER THAN A
SIXTH ROUND PICK.
HE CAN START FOR THE BRONCOS.
THE JETS HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE.
TREMAIN JOHNSON, REDDICK, YOU
WANT THEM TO SEE THE FOOTBALL
FIELD.
WILLIE DONALD BARELY PLAYED AS A
FIRST ROUNDER.
THIS GIVES HIM AN EASIER PATH TO
THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
MICHAEL: SMITH-WADE TO THE
PANTHERS.
MIKE: FEISTY SLOT CORNERBACK.
UNDERSIZED GUY.
HE HAS SOME SPEED TO HIM.
HE IS UNDERSIZED AND WILL BE
LIMITED IN SCOPE OF WHAT HE CAN
DO.
4.55 40.
LIMITED ATHLETICALLY.
HE WILL BE A SLOT CORNER.
I DID NOT THINK HE WAS ANYTHING
SPECIAL.
MICHAEL: DOES HE CONTEND WITH
TROY HILL OR AJAY PARKER FOR THE
PANTHERS?
MIKE: PROBABLY NOT AWAY.
MICHAEL: THEY HAVE JACKSON IN
THE SECONDARY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT CHAU
SMITH-WADE.
HE IS NOT AFRAID TO MAKE A
TACKLE.
KEEP GOING.
I LOVE THE EFFORT.
THIS WILL BE AN INTERESTING
SECONDARY FOR THE PANTHERS.
IT IS REVAMPED ON THE INSIDE.
STILL HAS YOUR GUY, JAYCEE HORN
ON THE OUTSIDE.
MIKE: THEY NEED JC HORN.
IT IS A DIFFERENT DEFENSE WHEN
HE IS OUT VERSUS WHEN HE IS IN
THERE.
MO CAMARA TO THE DOLPHINS.
HE WAS A MID-4.5 GUY COMING OUT
OF COLORADO STATE.
6’1", 248.
IT HELPED HIM GET UNDER THE PADS
OF THE OPPOSING OFFENSIVE
TACKLES.
HE WAS SO PRODUCTIVE AT COLORADO
STATE.
13 SACKS.
WHEN YOU RUN A 4.57 40, THAT IS
STILL DIFFICULT TO HANDLE OFF
THE EDGE.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A LITTLE STIFF.
YOU GOT CHOP ROBINSON TO DO
THAT.
KAMARA CAN BE YOUR GET UP THE
FIELD AND GO AFTER THE QB KIND
OF GUY.
PROBABLY MORE OF A PASS RUSHER
TO START.
MICHAEL: LOOK AT THAT.
LOOK AT THE DOLPHINS.
I LOVE HOUSE GRONK HE WAS.
I KIND OF WANT HIM TO PUT HIS
HAND IN THE DIRT.
THAT GIVES HIM MORE LEVERAGE.
IT LETS HIM GET UNDERNEATH THOSE
GUYS.
IT HELPS HIM TO HAVE THE ABILITY
TO CONTROL THEM BECAUSE HE IS A
LITTLE BIT UNDERSIZED.
MIKE: WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING
ON?
MICHAEL: I HAVE NO CLUE.
MIKE: I WANT TO BE THERE
ANNOUNCING PICKS.
CAN WE GET SOME OF THOSE ON THE
SET.
MICHAEL: [LAUGHTER]
WHERE ARE WE AT?
MIKE: DALTON’S RECAP.
THE ONLY HAD TWO OF THE TOP 100
PICKS.
CHOP ROBINSON IS NOT A DAY 1
GUY.
THEY WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT
DEFENSE.
PATRICK PAUL IS A GUY WHO, DAY 1
, ARMSTEAD NEEDS TO GET SPELLED,
HE COULD START AND IT WOULD NOT
BE AN ISSUE FOR YOUR OFFENSIVE
LINE THE WAY IT WAS LAST YEAR.
THEY WENT IN THE TANK AFTER THEY
HAD SOME INJURIES.
GOOD TOP TWO PICKS.
JAYLEN WRIGHT.
I DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE FITS IN.
YOU LOVE RAHEEM MOSTERT.
MOSTERT IS OVER 30 YEARS OLD AT
THIS POINT.
NOT A 4.3 GOD THE WAY JAYLEN
WRIGHT IS.
THEY WILL HAVE FOR THE NEXT
THREE YEARS MINIMUM, TWO GUYS
WHO ARE SCARING YOU WITH SPEED.
THAT IS A GREAT DRAFT.
THEIR M.O. WAS TRADING AWAY A
LOT OF FIX.
THEY HAD SOME TAKEN AWAY, AS
WELL.
THEY ARE OFF TO A GOOD START.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
CHIEFS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
CAN WE SEE THE CHIEFS’ DRAFT?
XAVIER WORTHY, KINGSLEY, JARED
WILEY, JADEN HICKS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID NOT LOOK
AT?
THE GUYS WE WERE EXCITED FOR.
THEY ARE ALL PICKED.
SPENCER RATTLER FINALLY CAME OFF
THE BOARD.
YOU LIKE JADEN HICKS.
Y FAVORITE OUT OF HERE?
OUR MIKE: I THINK HICKS WAS THE
BEST VALUE PICK.
I ALSO SAW JARED WILEY AS A
VALUE PICK.
YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BETTER
OLD-LINE COACHES — YOU HAVE ONE
OF THE BETTER O-LINE COACHES.
A HIGH UPSIDE PLAY WHERE YOU CAN
AFFORD TO TAKE THE CHANCE.
MICHAEL: WE ARE JUST WAITING ON
THE CHIEFS.
WE ARE CRUISING.
MIKE: WE ARE MIDWAY THROUGH THE
FIFTH.
CHIEFS, BILLS, COMMANDERS AND
THEN THE CARDINALS AND THE BILLS
BACK ON THE CLOCK.
THE EAGLES HAVE TWO MORE, THE
JETS HAVE TWO MORE, THE SAINTS
HAVE TWO MORE.
MICHAEL: OVER AND OVER.
MIKE: SINCE DAY 1, MORE PIX HAVE
BEEN MADE VIA TRADE THAN TEAMS
STAYING STILL AND TAKING THEM.
THAT ALWAYS BLOWS MY MIND.
MICHAEL: WHAT DO WE HAVE?
LET ME DO MATH IN MY BRAIN.
THIS ROUND ENDS AT 176.
MIKE: WE ARE AT 159 RIGHT NOW.
MICHAEL: I TRICKED YOU INTO
DOING IT FOR ME.
HERE WE GO.
ON THE CLOCK, KANSAS CITY.
HUNTER NOURZAD, CENTER FROM PENN
STATE.
MIKE: HE IS SOLID.
HE HAS VERSATILITY.
HE STARTED HIS CAREER AT
CORNELL.
THE PAST TWO SEASONS, STARTS AT
GUARD IN 2022, I THOUGHT HE
LOOKED A LOT BETTER AT CENTER.
BIG BODY, 6’3", 319, LONG ARMS,
BIG HANDS, TAILOR-MADE
CENTER-GUARD.
HE HAS POSITION VERSATILITY ON
THE INTERIOR.
I THOUGHT HE PLAYED WITH A GOOD
BASE.
HE WILL BE 25 YEARS OLD BY THE
END OF THE SEASON SO HE IS ON
THE OLDER SIDE.
BUT IF CREED HUMPHREY GOES DOWN,
HE CAN PLAY CENTER.
IF SMITH GOES DOWN, HE CAN PLAY
RIGHT GUARD.
HIGH FLOOR, LOW CEILING GUY.
I HAD HIM AS A TOP-125 PLAYER.
GETTING HIM AT 159, GOOD VALUE
PICK.
MICHAEL: HE WILL GET TO KANSAS
CITY AND BE OLDER THAN CREED
HUMPHREY.
[LAUGHTER]
OH, MY GOODNESS.
THE BILLS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
THE PICK IS ALREADY IN.
MIKE: I SEE IT AND I LOVE IT.
EDEFUAN ULOFOSHIO.
TREMAINE EDMUNDS, THEY FELT THAT
LOSS.
THEY ALSO FELT MATT MILANO’S
LOSS WHEN HE WENT DOWN.
THEY DID NOT HAVE GUYS TO
BACKFILL.
EDEFUAN ULOFOSHIO I LIKEEDEFUAN
ULOFOSHIO’S TAPE — I LIKE
EDEFUAN ULOFOSHIO’S TAPE.
HE MADE A PLAY IN THE NATIONAL
TITLE GAME, HE HAD A FOURTH PASS
BREAKUP COMING OUT OF THE BOX.
HE MIRRORS HIM ON THE OUTSIDE.
SUPER IMPRESSIVE.
THE GUY CAN FLY SIDELINE TO
SIDELINE, 4.36 SPEED.
THE BIGGEST THING WITH HIM,
EXTENSIVE INJURY HISTORY.
AFTER THE PANDEMIC, THE END OF
THE 2021 AND 2022 SEASONS WERE
THROWN OUT THE WINDOW.
HE HAD A TORN ACL.
WHEN HE CAME BACK THIS YEAR I
WAS IMPRESSED WITH HIS TAPE.
A REAL STRONG TACKLER AND EASY
MOVER.
HE COULD START FOR THIS TEAM.
IF HE STAYS HEALTHY.
THAT IS WHY HE FALLS HERE.
I HAD HIM AS A TOP-75 PLAYER.
MICHAEL: THE WEIGHT THING DOES
NOT SEEM WILL.
HE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE HE WEIGHS
230-SOMETHING POUNDS.
MIKE: NOT MUCH BODY FAT.
MICHAEL: HE IS TALLER AND HE CAN
RUN.
HE CAN MAKE PLAYS ALL OVER THE
FIELD.
DO YOU THINK HE IS A PLUG AND
PLAY?
MIKE: I DO.
THE ONLY THING WAS THE
CONSISTENCY OF HIS RUN READS BUT
THAT WAS A COMMON THEME ON THE
WASHINGTON DEFENSE.
IT MADE ME WONDER WHAT THEY WERE
TAUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT.
I THINK THIS GUY CAN START.
THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN GREAT
RESULTS FROM WILLIAMS.
WE SHALL SEE.
MICHAEL: I AM LOOKING AT THE
BOARD.
YOU GUYS CANNOT SEE IT.
BILLS, COMMANDERS, BILLS,
COMMANDERS, CARDINALS.
MIKE: HERE IS YOUR GUY.
MICHAEL: I LOVE THIS GUY.
DOMINIQUE HAMPTON.
HE PLAYED THE HUSKY POSITION.
I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW WHO HE
IS BUT HE REMINDS ME OF PACE,
WHO PLAYED AT CINCINNATI.
HE COMES DOWN IN THE BOX.
LOOK AT HIM RIGHT HERE.
HE MAKES PLAYS.
HE HAS LENGTH, NOT AFRAID TO
MAKE PLAYS BEHIND THE LIGHT OF
SCRIMMAGE.
HE IS SUPER DYNAMIC.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLAYERS TO
WATCH.
JUST SWALLOWING UP — WAS THAT
BLAKE CORUM THAT HE GOT?
MY DAY 3 UNDERDOGS.
DARK HORSE IS STILL ON THE
FIELD.
WE GOT DOMINIQUE HAMPTON OFF THE
BOARD.
I REALLY LOVE THE WAY HE PLAYS.
MIKE: HE IS AN ATHLETE.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO WORK
WITH.
6’2", 215, RAN A 4.45 AND HE HAS
A 6’7" WINGSPAN.
HE IS A BIG, TWITCHY ATHLETE.
SOME SCHEMES, YOU DO NOT NEED TO
BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
SOME SCHEMES ARE ASKING FOR
SIMPLE READS AND TO KEY ON ONE
OR TWO.
THINGS HE COULD BE A DARN GOOD
FOOTBALL PLAYER.
THE WASHINGTON COMMANDERS, DAN
QUINN’S DEFENSE, HE COULD BE
YOUR KEARSE.
THAT IS THE ROLE HE WILL FILL
FOR THAT DEFENSE.
DANIEL JEREMIAH HAS HIM AS A
TOP-100 GUY.
MICHAEL: I DIG ON HIM.
HE IS SO ACTIVE EVERYWHERE ON
THE FIELD AND IN EVERY PHASE OF
THE GAME.
HE IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER AND THEN
WE WILL FIND HIM A POSITION.
THE CARDINALS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
MIKE: THAT IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT
WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE
COMMANDERS PICKS.
MICHAEL: THEY ARE GETTING
FOOTBALL PLAYERS.
THE CARDINALS ARE ON THE CLOCK
AND THEN GUESS WHO COMES BACK ON
THE CLOCK ECHO THE BILLS.
MIKE: THE BILLS CANNOT STOP
MAKING PICKS.
MIKE: I THINK THE CARDINALS HAVE
MADE THE MOST PICKS OF THIS
ENTIRE DRAFT CLASS.
A ZILLION PLAYERS.
MICHAEL: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
MIKE: NINE GUYS ALREADY.
THEY ADDED A TEXAS TECH SAFETY
AND CLEMSON DEFENSIVE END.
162 HERE.
LET’S KEEP IT GOING.
I KNOW THEY ALREADY HAVE DRAFTED
ADAMS TO THE INTERIOR.
KEEP GOING OFFENSIVE LINE.
THEY GOT A GUY I LIKE A LOT.
CHRISTIAN JONES, TEXAS
OFFENSIVE TACKLE.
HIS TAPE AT TEXAS I THOUGHT WAS
JUST OK.
306.
HE IS NOT CARRYING BAD WEIGHT
WHATSOEVER.
GUYS DO NOT GET THE BETTER OF
HIM PHYSICALLY.
LATE TWO FOOTBALL.
HE WAS A SOCCER PLAYER GROWING
UP.
HE DID NOT PLAY FOOTBALL UNTIL
HIS JUNIOR YEAR AND HE STARTED
ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE.
HE PLAYED FOR TWO DIFFERENT
COACHING STAFFS AT TEXAS.
EVERY SINGLE YEAR YOU SAW HIM
GET BETTER.
I DO THINK HIS DEVELOPMENTAL
TRAITS ARE JUST OK, HE IS NOT AS
EXPLOSIVE OR FLUID AS GUYS WHO
HAVE GONE BEFORE HIM BUT YOU DO
NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE.
HE WILL IMPROVE SO MUCH IN A
LIMITED TIME.
THAT SOCCER BACKGROUND SHOWS
WITH HIS FOOTWORK AT THE TACKLE
POSITION, HOW HE CAN KEEP HIS
HANDS AND FEET IN UNISON.
CHRISTIAN JONES.
GREAT PICK FOR THE ARIZONA
CARDINALS.
MICHAEL: WILL HE PLAY OUTSIDE?
MIKE: HE IS FOR SURE A TACKLE.
MICHAEL: EXPLAIN WHAT BAD WEIGHT
MEANS.
MIKE: BAD WEIGHT IS FAT.
[LAUGHTER]
MICHAEL: WHEN YOU ARE WATCHING A
PLAYER, HE IS 335, BUT HE COULD
PROBABLY PLAY AT 315.
MIKE: A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT
BODY TYPES AND HOW YOUR WEIGHT
IS DISTRIBUTED.
YOU WANT THE WEIGHT TO BE
DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT YOUR
SIZE, BUTT, AND ARMS.
THAT IS THE IDEAL WEIGHT
DISTRIBUTION.
IF YOU CA G — IF YOU SEE A GUT,
SOME OF IT HANGING OFF, LITTLE
TO NO DEFINITION IN THEIR ARMS,
THAT MEANS THE GUY IS PROBABLY
CARRYING SOME BAD WEIGHT.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT BODY TYPES
AND WHERE THEY CAN IMPROVE.
WHEN I GUY IS 306 BUT KIND OF
CUT UP, BUILT LIKE A TIGHT END
IS BUILT BUT JUMBO, THAT IS GOOD
FOR AN OFFENSIVE TACKLE.
MICHAEL: LET’S GO TO YOUR BIG
BOARD.
LET’S SEE WHO IS LEFT.
MIKE: INTERESTING.
I CAN SEE WHY CHRISTIAN MAHOGANY
IS STILL ON THE BOARD.
SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY HE HAS
SERIOUS RE-RISK OF INJURY.
MALIK WASHINGTON IS A BIT OF A
SURPRISE.
DJ JAMES IS A SKINNY CORNER.
LEONARD TAYLOR IS ALSO A
SURPRISE TO ME.
A THIRD-YEAR GUY AT A POSITION
LIKE DT.
HE HAD TWO MORE YEARS OF
ELIGIBILITY TO HELP HIS DRAFT
STOCK.
HE WILL FALL INTO THE FIFTH,
MAYBE THE SIXTH AT THIS POINT.
JOHNNY WILSON, SOMEONE TAKE THEM
OFF THE BOARD.
HE HAS SUCH A UNIQUE SKILL SET.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE A TRADE.
MIKE: IT LOOKS LIKE THE PACKERS
ARE ON THE CLOCK.
IT WAS NOT A MASSIVE MOVE.
MICHAEL: WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
ALREADY GOT A GUARD, ALREADY GOT
A RUNNING BACK.
PASS CATCHER.
TWO LINEBACKERS.
A COUPLE GUYS IN THE SECONDARY.
MIKE: FINGERS CROSSED FOR
CHRISTIAN MAHOGANY.
MICHAEL: LET’S DO IT.
MIKE: COME ON.
I THINK HE IS A STARTING GUARD
AT THE NEXT LEVEL.
YOU WILL NOT FIND MANY OF THOSE
AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT.
SMITH FELL TO THE SIXTH AND I
FELT SIMILARLY.
HE DID NOT MISS A GAME FOR THE
BLOOD CLOT ISSUE HE HAD.
THIS IS THE SPOT IN THE DRAFT
WHERE YOU TAKE A CHANCE ON GUYS
WITH MEDICALS.
THE OBVIOUS NEEDS WERE SAFETY,
LINEBACKER AND EITHER TACKLE OR
GUARD.
THEY GOT JORDAN MORGAN IN THE
FIRST ROUND WHO CAN PLAY EITHER
TACKLE OR GUARD.
THEY GOT A LINEBACKER, EDGERRIN
COOPER.
THEY ARE SWITCHING DEFENSIVE
SCHEMES.
THEY NEEDED SOME SPEED, A TRUE
WEEK SIDE LINEBACKER.
THAT IS COOPER.
JAVON BULLARD GIVES YOU TWO
VERSATILE SAFETIES.
BOX, DEEP, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU HAVE YOUR PAST EDGING —
YOUR PASS CATCHING BACK.
MICHAEL: JACOB MONK
FROM DUKE.
MIKE: I DO NOT HAVE NOTES ON
HIM.
MICHAEL: HE PLAYED CENTER AND
GUARD.
I THINK THIS IS AN INSTANT SWING
GUY.
YOU BRING HIM INTO HEALTH.
THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IN
TERMS OF WHAT HE CAN DO, YOU
HAVE ONE TRUE CENTER IN JOSH
MYERS.
THEY ARE DRAFTING HIM
TECHNICALLY AS AN OFFENSIVE
TACKLE BUT HE CAN FILL IN IN
THOSE THREE INTERIOR SPOTS.
MIKE: HE HAS STARTED 59 GAMES.
MICHAEL: HE HAS PLAYED A LOT OF
FOOTBALL.
MIKE: THAT MIGHT BE A COLLEGE
RECORD.
HOW MANY OTHER GUYS IN THIS
CLASS — BO NIX, 61, THE RECORD
AT QUARTERBACK BECAUSE IT DID
NOT EXIST BEFORE THIS.
MICHAEL: THE BILLS AND THE
PACKERS MAKE A TRADE.
DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT?
MIKE: WHATEVER.
[LAUGHTER]
THEY ARE UP AGAIN IN A FEW PICK
S.
THEY HAVE 169 AFTER PICKING AT
163.
THEY HAD BACK TO BACK
COMPENSATORY PICKS AT THE END OF
THE FIFTH.
THE COLTS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
MICHAEL: COLTS ARE ON THE CLOCK,
GOOD GRIEF.
MIKE: BACK AGAIN.
THIS IS THEIR THIRD FIFTH-ROUND
PICK.
MICHAEL: AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE
THE RAVENS AND THE GIANTS COMING
UP.
MIKE: IT IS THE SAME TEAMS WE
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
ENTIRE FIFTH-ROUND.
MICHAEL: NOTHING COLTS, NOTHING
CARDINALS, NOT THE COMMANDERS.
MIKE: ANTHONY GOLD WITH THEIR
FIRST FIFTH-ROUND PICK.
CARLISLE.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE 12 — IS THAT
RIGHT?
WE HAVE 12 TO GO IN THIS ROUND.
MIKE: HE WOULD DEFINITELY NOTE
THIS ABOUT THE COLTS OFFENSIVE
LINE.
MATT, TANOR, 10 OFFENSE
LINEMEN ON THE ROSTER, EACH
ONE OF THEM IS WHITE.
[LAUGHTER]
THAT IS WILD.
[LAUGHTER]
MICHAEL: LISTEN, THEY ARE GOING
TO PLAY SOME TOUGH FOOTBALL.
WHAT DOES THE RUNNING BACK ROOM
LOOK LIKE?
JONATHAN TAYLOR.
MIKE: HE WAS HOLDING OUT AT THE
BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR SO WE DID
NOT GET TO SEE THE TWO-HEADED
MONSTER.
ONE OF THE BEST PLAY CALLERS IN
THE NFL, HE HAD JALEN HURTS
BEING ONE OF THE MOST IMPOSING
RUSHING THREATS.
THE REID OPTION GAME.
DO WE SEE THAT IN YEAR TWO WITH
THIS OFFENSIVE LINE?
THE LINE HAS BEEN TOGETHER FOR
THREE YEARS.
I THINK THIS OFFENSE COULD BE
SWEET.
IT IS ALL THERE FOR CALEB
WILLIAMS, IT WAS ALL THEREFORE
C.J. STROUD.
IT IS GETTING THERE FOR BRYCE
YOUNG.
IT IS DEFINITELY ALL THERE FOR
ANTHONY RICHARDSON.
THE AFC SOUTH GOOD LEGITIMATELY
BE ONE OF THE BEST DIVISIONS IN
FOOTBALL VERY QUICKLY.
MICHAEL: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY
NEXT QUESTION.
IF THE JAGS CAN GET TOGETHER AND
BOUNCE BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE
TWO YEARS AGO.
THE TITANS, THE TEXANS, WE
EXPECT MORE OUT OF THEM.
THE COLTS, WE NEED A HEALTHY
ANTI-RICHARDSON.
JONATHAN TAYLOR IS — WE NEED A
HEALTHY ANTHONY RICHARDSON.
MIKE: THE DRAFT JAYLIN SIMPSON,
AUBURN SAFETY.
ONE OF THE RANGIEST SAFETIES IN
THE DRAFT.
4.45 40.
11’1" BROAD JUMP.
179 POUNDS, THOUGH.
HE IS SKINNY.
PURE CENTERFIELDER.
I LIKE HIS VERSATILITY.
MAYBE EVEN FLIP HIM TO CORNER.
HE IS TOO MUCH OF A LIABILITY AS
A TACKLER.
THEY HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST,
MOVING A SKINNY SAFETY TO
CORNER.
HE HAS A GOOD COME ALONG FRAME.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HIM IN THE BACK
END.
HE IS ANOTHER SINGLE HIGH GUY.
WE JUST SAW ONE OF THOSE CLIPS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COLTS
DRAFT.
THEIR SKILL POSITIONS.
ANTHONY RICHARDSON, JONATHAN
TAYLOR, MICHAEL PITTMAN.
JOSH DOWNS.
JUST HANGING AROUND.
KYLEN GRANSON.
MIKE: AFTER YESTERDAY’S DRAFT AT
THE PRESS CONFERENCE, THEY SAID
I AM TIRED OF SCOUTS QUESTIONING
CHARACTER.
THERE WERE REPORTS NOT JUST
ABOUT DIABETES BUT PEOPLE WERE
QUESTIONING — I THINK THE QUOTE
WAS, THEY WERE SAYING HE USED
HIS DIABETES AS AN EXCUSE TO BE
INCONSISTENT.
BALLARD TOOK ISSUE WITH THAT.
FROM WHAT I SAW ON TAPE, AN HE
IS ELITE TALENT THAT THEY GOT IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE SECOND ROUND.
MITCHELL, LIGHT YEARS MORE
TALENTED AS A PROSPECT.
RASHEEN ALI TO THE BALTIMORE
RAVENS.
THE RUNNING BACK POSITION.
I LOVE THIS GUY’S TAPE.
I THOUGHT YOU RAN HARDER THAN
WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FOR AN
UNDERSIZED GUY.
GOOD VISION, HOMERUN HITTER.
HE CAN CATCH IT OUT OF THE
BACKFIELD.
ONE THING OF NOTE WITH HIM, SOME
REAL DEAL FUMBLING ISSUES.
I BELIEVE HE HAD 11 FUMBLES IN
THE LAST TWO SEASONS.
MICHAEL: IS THAT A SIZE THING?
MIKE: SMALLER HANDS, IT COULD
BE.
I LOVE HIS TAPE VERY MUCH.
KEATON MITCHELL-ESQUE.
A RUNNING BACK RUN.
MICHAEL: TYRONE TRACY GOES TO
THE GIANTS.
MIKE: THEY LOST SAKE ONE, ADDED
— THEY LOST SAQUON BARKLEY,
ADDED DEVIN SINGLETARY.
TYRONE TRACY IS MORE PHYSICALLY
GIFTED THE DEVIN SINGLETARY.
ONLY SWISHED TO RUNNING BACK
THIS PAST FALL.
HE WAS A WIDE RECEIVER.
TRANSFERRED FROM IOWA TO PURDUE.
HIS 60 YEAR, HE GOES TO RUNNING
BACK — HIS SIXTH YEAR, HE GOES
TO RUNNING BACK AND HE IS
DYNAMIC.
I WAS FLOORED BY HOW GOOD HIS
VISION WAS.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RUN PACING
YOU WOULD EXPECT.
SLOW TO FAST TO HIT THE WHOLE,
THAT SORT OF THING.
IT WAS HIS FIRST YEAR AND
AGAINST TOUGHER DEFENSES HE
STILL SHOWED UP.
I HAD HIM JUST OUTSIDE HIS TOP
FIVE BACKS.
TO GET HIM HERE, WHAT HE COULD
BE — HE COULD START FOR THIS
TEAM.
I WOULD PUT HIM ABOVE ALL THE
GUYS THEY HAVE.
SINGLE TERRY IS MORE RELIABLE
BUT I AM INTRIGUED BY WHAT
TYRONE TRACY WILL BE IN THAT
OFFENSE.
THAT IS AN A+ AT THIS POINT.
MICHAEL: I WILL GIVE IT A SOLID
"A."
UNDERSTANDING HOW TO PLAY
RUNNING BACK.
IF YOU DO IT FOR A YEAR, IT WILL
TAKE A WHILE TO PICK THAT UP.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING.
WHO IS ON THE CLOCK?
THE JAGS ARE BACK ON THE CLOCK.
TRACY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM
AND CREATE SOME LEVEL OF IMPACT.
WE HAVE THE JACKSONVILLE
JAGUARS.
MIKE: IT REALLY IS THE SAME
TEAMS.
MICHAEL: I’M LOOKING AT THE COMP
PICKS.
WE ARE NOW AT 167.
THE COMPS START WITH THIS NEXT
PICK.
AND THEN WE GET NEW ORLEANS,
GREEN BAY, NEW ORLEANS, PHILLY,
PHILLY.
BASED ON WHAT ORIGINALLY
HAPPENED.
MIKE: BILLS ARE ON THE CLOCK
AFTER THE JAGS.
WE GOT SOME QUESTIONS IN THE
CHAT.
BILLS NEED A BACKUP QB.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANYONE
YOU LIKE AT THIS POINT.
TO ME, IT IS STILL TOO EARLY.
MICHAEL: IT IS EARLY BUT IF YOU
LIKE PRATT, GO FOR IT.
MIKE: KENDA BILLS GET A RECEIVER
— CAN THE BILLS GET A RECEIVER
WHO CAN HELP THIS YEAR?
RICE.
I THINK THIS WIDE RECEIVER
CLASS, I HAVE MALIK WASHINGTON
AS A TOP 100 PLAYER.
HE IS A SLOT RECEIVER.
CURTIS SAMUEL HAS PLAYED THAT
ROLE.
FOR WHAT THEY NEED, MANNED, —
FROM WHAT THEY NEED, MAN, RICE.
MAYBE NOT A DEEP THREAT BUT HE
COULD AT LEAST PLAY THERE.
THEY ALREADY GOT KEON COLEMAN, I
DO NOT THINK YOU ARE GETTING TOO
MANY MORE IMPACT GUYS.
MICHAEL: OH, MY GOODNESS.
MIKE: IT GOES JAGS, BILLS,
PACKERS, SINCE, TWO TO THE
EAGLES.
ARE YOU READY FOR TWO MORE
ROUNDS AFTER THIS?
I AM FEELING ENERGIZED.
THIS IS THE TRADE DETAILS.
JOHN FRANKLIN-MYERS AND THE
BRONCOS HAVE AGREED TO A NEW
TWO-YEAR, $15 MILLION DEAL.
THAT IS FAIRLY CHEAP.
HE WAS ORIGINALLY DRAFTED BY THE
RAMS.
HE KIND OF FELL OUT OF FAVOR.
AFTER ONE YEAR GOES TO THE JETS.
REINVENTS HIMSELF.
, 50 PRESSURES FOR FOUR STRAIGHT
SEASONS.
HE IS 27 YEARS OLD.
FOR THE DENVER BRONCOS, THIS IS
A NO-BRAINER.
I LOVE THAT MOVE FOR THEM.
FROM THE JETS’ PERSPECTIVE,
THIS GIVES AN EASIER PATH TO THE
FOOTBALL FIELD FOR THEIR FIRST
ROUND PICK.
I AM SURPRISED THEY WOULD TRADE
AWAY ANY PLAYERS —
MICHAEL: ESPECIALLY PRODUCTIVE
PLAYERS.
THAT STANDS OUT TO ME.
MIKE: SOMEONE IN THE CHAT SAYS
WHAT ABOUT THE JETS AT 173?
CHRISTIAN MAHOGANY TO THE JETS.
I WOULD LOVE IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE THING THAT
STOPS THIS TEAM FROM WHERE THEY
WANT TO GO.
AARON RODGERS GETTING HURT.
SIMPSON IS AT LEFT GUARD.
MAYBE YOU PUT OLU AT LEFT GUARD
RIGHT AWAY.
SIMPSON IS MORE OF A RUN
BLOCKER.
I DO THINK MAHOGANY, MAYBE THE
NEED IS NOT IDEAL.
HERE IS YOUR GUY.
KEILAN ROBINSON GOING TO THE
JAGUARS MICHAEL: I LIKE HIM
CATCHING THE BALL.
ADDING HIM TO THE BACKFIELD WITH
TRAVIS ETIENNE.
HE CAN BE EXPLOSIVE.
HE HAS BEEN BEHIND BROOKS,
BEHIND BIJAN.
HE FINALLY GOT A LITTLE MORE
SHINE.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PICK FOR
THEM.
I LOVE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO
FIND WEAPONS.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE YOUR
FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK MORE
COMFORTABLE.
WE WILL SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS
LIKE.
MIKE: YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO
TALK ABOUT IT LATER, KICK
RETURN.
MICHAEL: YES.
MIKE: HE IS A GOOD TICK
RETURNER.
4.42 SPEED.
5’8", 191.
THIS IS NOT A STARTING RUNNING
BACK FOR YOU BUT YOU COULD BE
DRAFTING A PURE KICK RETURNER
BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS
EXPERIMENT WILL GO.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT
THE JAGUARS AND THE BILLS.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE
PACKERS.
UNTIL WE GET TO THE SAINTS,
LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS KICKOFF
RULE.
I WILL NAME THE PICKS WHEN THEY
COME IN BUT REALISTICALLY LET’S
TALK ABOUT THIS KICKOFF RULE.
YOU HAVE THE GREEN ZONE.
JUST FROM GOAL LINE TO THE — WE
HAVE TO PULL IT UP BECAUSE I AM
NOT FULLY MENTALLY READY FOR IT.
THE PICK IS IN.
SOLOMON, DEFENSE —
DEFENSIVE END FROM TROY.
MIKE: HE LED THE FBS IN SACKS.
HE IS SMALL BUT HAS NATURAL PASS
RUSHING ABILITY.
HE WAS PLAYING OUT OF POSITION.
HE WAS PLAYING AT THE 4 OR 5
TECHNIQUE AT6’1’MICHAEL: I
THOUGHT HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN
EDGE RUSHER.
MIKE: HE HAS A 6′(" WINGSPAN —
HE HAS A 6’9" WING SPENT.
VON MILLER CAN TEACH A GUY WITH
THAT BODY TYPE.
THAT IS THE STANCE HE WAS
PLAYING AT THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE
TO RUSHING THE PASSER.
HE STILL GOT IT DONE ATHLETIC
ENOUGH TO STILL WIN AT THE NEXT
LEVEL.
I LIKE THIS PICK.
MAYBE JUST A THIRD DOWN GUY FOR
YOU.
A THIRD DOWN GUY AT THIS POINT
IN THE DRAFT WHO CAN REALLY MAKE
PLAYS, THIS IS AN A+ PICK FOR
THE BUFFALO BILLS.
MICHAEL: I THINK THE LEVERAGE
PART IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE
ABILITY THE COMES WITH A SHORTER
PLAYER AND WITH LONGER ARMS.
HE IS PUSHING YOU UP.
YOU MENTIONED THE FROG STANCE.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY HE CAN
GENERATE ENOUGH POWER AGAINST
THOSE BIGGER GUYS.
I WILL GO WITH AN "A."
YOU DO NOT GET THAT MANY SACKS
OR HAVE THAT MANY PRESSURES
WITHOUT BEING A GOOD FOOTBALL
PLAYER.
MIKE: LET’S GET TO THE KICKOFF
RULE.
I HAVE IT UP HERE.
THE KICKING TEAM HAS TO HAVE 10
GUYS, ALL WITH THEIR FOOT ON THE
OPPOSING 40 YARD LINE, WHERE THE
BALL WILL LAND.
THE RECEIVING TEAM CAN ALL SET
UP — THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST
NINE PLAYERS BETWEEN THEIR OWN
30 AND 35.
YOU WILL HAVE A ROW OF 10 GUYS
ON THE KICKOFF TEAM, NINE OR 10
GUYS BETWEEN THE 30 AND 35.
THERE ARE TWO OPPOSING LINES OF
SCRIMMAGE.
NEITHER CAN MOVE ACROSS THOSE
DESIGNATED AREAS UNTIL THE BALL
HITS THE GROUND OR THE KICK
RETURNER.
THAT IS HOW IT WILL SET UP.
YOU WILL SEE A LOT MORE KICK
RETURNS.
YOU WILL SEE SOME TEAMS THINKING
OF CREATIVE WAYS TO EMPLOY
BLOCKING SCHEMES.
HOW WE WILL DO THIS GOING
FORWARD.
WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
IT IS GOING TO BE THE RETURN OF
KICK RETURNS.
YOU WILL SEE MORE TEAMS BRINGING
THE BALL OUT OF THE END ZONE.
CORDERO PATTERSON IS 33 YEARS
OLD, HE WILL GET A TWO-YEAR DEAL
FROM THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS
BECAUSE HE IS THE GREATEST TICK
RETURNER IN NFL HISTORY.
YOU SEE SOME GUYS GETTING
DRAFTED BECAUSE OF THEIR KICK
RETURN UPSIDE.
MIKE: I AM A FAN OF THIS SAFETY.
HE IS NOT A HIGH-END ATHLETE BUT
HE CAN MAKE PLAYS.
MICHAEL: LITERALLY WHAT I WROTE,
WORKS WELL IN COVER 2.
PLAYS FASTER THAN HIS 40 TIME.
MIKE: HE HAS A BIG COME ALONG
FRAME.
6’1", 217 POUNDS.
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SAFETY.
ANTHONY JOHNSON JR., AROUND 200
POUNDS.
THIS GUY IS A BIG DUDE.
I LOVE HIS ABILITY TO MAKE
PLAYS.
THREE STRAIGHT SEASONS AROUND
THE FOOTBALL.
I LIKE HIM.
MICHAEL: HE IS A FOOTBALL
PLAYER.
MIKE: EASY TO SEE WHY HE FALLS
TO THIS POINT WHEN YOU SEE HIM
GO ONE-ON-ONE.
WE WILL SEE.
I FEEL SIMILAR TO THE WAY I FELT
ABOUT JOHNSON JR.
HE WAS A CONVERTED CORNER TO
SAFETY.
I LIKE THEIR TAPE.
THEY MIGHT NOT SHOW UP ON A
COMBINE MEASURABLE SHEET.
MICHAEL: SINCE PICK MEANS.
MIKE: GOOD GRADE DEVELOPMENTAL.
MICHAEL: YOU MENTIONED THE
RETURNERS.
HE HAS GOOD VALUE.
THERE IS VALUE IN RESPECT TO
RETURNS, FINDING WAYS TO CREATE
SPACE IN THE PAST GAME BUT THE
BEST THING HE DOES IS THE RETURN
GAME.
MIKE: HE IS A BIG DUDE, 6’1", 21
2 POUNDS, OVER 10-INCH HANDS.
I DO NOT THINK HE WAS —
FEATURED ENOUGH IN THIS OFFENSE.
YOU COULD SEE A ROLE.
I LIKE THIS PICK.
MICHAEL: NEVER GO.
WHO — THERE WE GO.
WHO IS UP NEXT?
MIKE: EAGLES BACK TO BACK.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE JOHNNY
WILSON.
HE COULD PLAY THE SLOT FOR THEM.
MICHAEL: THEY GOT KOOL-AID, THEY
GOT SPENCER, THEY GOT BUB MEANS.
THE SAINTS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE
SOMETHING OUT.
RATTLER WILL BE INTERESTING.
THAT IS ALMOST A FUTURE PICK.
A WAY BETTER FUTURE PICK THAN
MICHAEL PENIX BECAUSE YOU DO NOT
HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE $100
MILLION.
[LAUGHTER]
MIKE: I WAS MUCH HIGHER ON PENIX
THAN RATTLER.
MICHAEL: I WAS, TOO, BUT WHERE
YOU GET THEM DOES MATTER.
MIKE: FOR PENIX’S SAKE, WE DID
NOT REALLY GET TO TALK ABOUT THE
— PENIX PERSPECTIVE OF
IT.
HE IS 24.
HE WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL.
HE MISSED A LOT OF FOOTBALL.
THAT GUY DOES NOT WANT TO SIT ON
THE BENCH THREE YEARS.
HE WILL NOT DENY THE BIG
CONTRACT HE IS ABOUT TO GET BUT
HE WANTS TO PLAY FOOTBALL.
HE WAS NOT A GUY WHO WAS A TWO-
YEAR STARTER WHO NEEDS TO
DEVELOP.
HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST NFL-READY
GUYS.
I WAS DRAFTED A OVERALL.
MICHAEL: THIS IS WHAT I WAS
THINKING.
HE IS 24.
FIVE YEARS FROM NOW HE WILL BE
29.
MIKE: FOR QUARTERBACKS
SPECIFICALLY — IF IT WAS A
BACKUP OT, THAT WOULD BE A
DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
IF HE STARTS WHEN HE IS 29, HE
STILL HAS EIGHT YEARS LEFT.
THE QUARTERBACK TIMELINE IS SO
DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE A TRADE.
THE JETS — YOU SAID JORDAN
TRAVIS IS THE NEXT QUARTERBACK
OFF THE BOARD, THERE HE IS.
HE GOES TO THE JETS.
HE WAS COMING OFF THE ACL WITH
THE FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLES.
MIKE: ANKLE.
MICHAEL: HE IS COMING OFF AN
ANKLE INJURY WITH THE FLORIDA
STATE SEMINOLES.
HE IS A GUY, I THOUGHT HE DID
IMPROVE CONSISTENTLY.
HE WAS A QUALITY LEADER FOR THE
FOOTBALL TEAM.
HE IS NOT AS ORTHODOX AS A GUY
LIKE MICHAEL PENIX OR DRAKE MAYE
BUT HE WAS ABLE TO MAKE PLAYS.
THE 36TH PICK OF THE FIFTH
ROUND, YOU USE A COMP PICK.
MIKE: HE GREW ON ME.
HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A POP GUN
.
THAT WILL BE TOUGH AT THE NFL
LEVEL.
BUT HE GETS THE BALL OUT OF HIS
HAND QUICKLY.
HE IS SO SHIFTY THAT HE CREATES
SPACE FOR HIMSELF VERY EASILY.
HE DOES NOT MOVE TO RUN, HE
MOVES TO THROW.
MICHAEL: YES.
MIKE: HE HAS THAT ASPECT TO HIS
GAME.
HE WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS
OFFENSE.
HE IS LEARNING FROM TYROD
TAYLOR, THE BACKUP FOR THE JETS.
THE PERFECT GUY TO LEARN FROM.
HE CAN BE THAT AT THE NFL LEVEL.
HE DOES NOT EXCITE YOU AS A
STARTER BUT IF YOU NEED HIM TO
WIN GAMES AS A BACKUP, I WOULD
NOT PUT THAT PAST JORDAN TRAVIS.
GREAT PICK FOR THE JETS FOR WHAT
YOUR OUTLOOK IS AT THAT
POSITION.
HE WILL NEVER BE YOUR STARTER.
HE IS NOT THE HEIR APPARENT TO
AARON RODGERS — THAT PLAYER IS
NOT ON THE ROSTER RIGHT NOW.
IF HE STUBS HIS TOE, JORDAN
TRAVIS 10 WIN YOU A GAME — CAN
WIN YOU AGAIN.
MICHAEL: I THINK HE GOT BETTER.
NOT JUST FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS
YEAR BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE
YEAR.
I WILL GO WITH AN "A" ON THIS
ONE.
IF HE HAS TO GET IN THE GAME, HE
CAN HANDLE HIMSELF PRETTY WELL.
THE BIG KEY HERE, YOU MENTIONED
TYROD TAYLOR, I WAS GOING TO ASK
ABOUT THAT.
TYROD TAYLOR HAS BEEN IN THE NFL
A LONG TIME.
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO CAN TEACH
YOU ABOUT PLAYING NFL FOOTBALL,
IT WOULD BE TYROD TAYLOR.
MIKE: ANOTHER QB OFF THE BOARD,
LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THEY
WENT.
RATTLER, TRAVIS, SHOULD I CALL
MY SHOT ON THE NEXT QB TAKEN?
RATTLER, I SAID TRAVIS.
I WILL THROW OUT A WILD ONE.
I WILL GO CARDER BRADLEY, THE
SOUTH ALABAMA QUARTERBACK.
MICHAEL: WOW.
I AM STICKING WITH MY GUY,
MICHAEL PRATT.
MIKE: HE IS PROBABLY THE FAVOR.
— HE IS PROBABLY THE FAVORITE.
MICHAEL: EAGLES ARE BACK.
MIKE: EAGLES FANS HAVE TAKES ON
THEIR TEAM.
EAGLES HAVE NOT TAKEN A GEORGIA
PLAYER YET.
MICHAEL: THAT IS TRUE.
MIKE: THEY TAKE A GUARD.
MICHAEL: ALL OF THESE MICHIGAN
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN.
THESE GUYS WERE THE STARS OF THE
SHOW.
MIKE: THINK ABOUT THE MICHIGAN
OFFENSIVE LINE.
HE ALMOST PERSONIFIES IT.
HE WAS NOT GREAT IN PASS
PROTECTION.
THEY HAD ISSUES IN GAMES.
THAT IS WHY THIS GUY FALLS TO
THIS POINT.
HE IS NOT SUPER AGILE OR NIMBLE.
BUT IN A PHONE BOOTH, HE CAN
MOVE THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES, THE
TUSH PUSH STUFF, THE INSIDE ZONE
STUFF.
HE CAN FIT IN.
MICHAEL: I THINK HE CAN FIT IN.
WHAT DID THEY ASK HIM TO DO AT
MICHIGAN?
MOVE BODIES.
AND HE DID IT.
IF YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU WILL BE
FINE.
LOOK AT WHAT PHILLY IS BRINGING
TO THE TABLE.
PHILADELPHIA WANTS TO RUN THE
FOOTBALL.
THEY WANT TO PLAY TOUGH
FOOTBALL.
WHY DO YOU GO OUT AND GET SAQUON
BARKLEY IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO
RUN THE FOOTBALL?
THEY WENT OUT AND GOT THIS GUY
AND THEN YOU THROW IN — WE
TALKED ABOUT SHIPLEY AND WHAT
THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THEM.
THIS IS A DIRECT APPROACH TO
RUNNING THE BALL.
MIKE: CHAD ALSO SAID THE EAGLES
HAVE NOT GOTTEN A DEEP THREAT AT
WIDE RECEIVER.
COULD THAT BE THE PICK?
A.J. BROWN, DEVONTA SMITH, WE
TALKED ABOUT HOW THEIR DEPTH AT
WIDE RECEIVER IS LACKING.
RICE COULD BE THAT VERTICAL
THREAT IN YOUR OFFENSE.
I KNOW AT THE COMBINE HE RAN A
4.5.
IF WE GO DOWN THE BOARD, JACKSON
WAS A 4.42 BUT MORE OF A SLOT
WIDE RECEIVER.
NOT A LOT OF VERTICAL THREATS
AFTER THAT.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY YOUR TWO IF I
AM JUST AT THIS POINT — I KNOW
MASON TIPTON.
THE TAPE WAS NOT — IT WAS
DIFFICULT TO GET A HANDLE ON.
THE FORMER ALABAMA RECEIVER RAN
A 4.52.
THERE IS A REASON HE DID NOT
PLAY AT ANY OF THE STOPS HE WENT
TO.
THERE ARE YOUR OPTIONS.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
MIKE: DAVIS.
THEY ARE STOCKING UP ON RUNNING
BACKS.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE BREECE HALL.
BRAYLEN ALLEN.
THE KID FROM WYOMING.
PATRICK.
AND NOW YOU ADD ISAIAH DAVIS.
MIKE: I HAD HIM GRADED HIGHER
THAN ALLEN.
IS TAPE IS DIFFICULT TO GET A
HANDLE ON PLAYING AGAINST FCS
COMPETITION.
1450 YARDS AS A JUNIOR, 1570
THIS LAST YEAR.
HE IS NOT JUST A BIGGER BACK,
220, HE RUNS PHYSICAL AND LOWERS
HIS SHOULDERS.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE A POWER
BACK WHEN YOU ARE 6’IN THE NFL.
IT IS EASIER FOR GUYS WHO ARE ”
10", 5’11".
HE CAN MOVE A LITTLE BIT EASIER
BETWEEN THE TACKLES.
IN SHORT YARDAGE SITUATIONS, YOU
NOT ONLY NEED THE POWER BUT THE
ABILITY TO FIND A HOLE.
I LIKE THIS PICK.
I GIVE THAT ONE AN "A."
MICHAEL: WATCHING HIM PLAY AND
SEEING WHAT HE CAN DO.
YOU JUST HEARD ME GO, "WOO!"
YOU JUST MENTIONED, SHORT
YARDAGE IS NOT JUST ABOUT POWER.
HE CAN CREATE HIS OWN SPACE WITH
POWER AND MOVING HIS FEET IN
SPACE.
THEY WILL LIKE THIS GUY.
I DO KNOW THAT IF THIS GUY — IF
YOU FOLLOW THE JETS, YOU WILL
LIKE THIS GOT.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT AN
"A."
HE WILL HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT
PERIOD.
IT IS A HUGE ADJUSTMENT TO GO
FROM FBS TO THE NFL.
IT IS ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT TO GO
FROM FCS TO THE NFL.
YOU ARE JUMPING TWO LEVELS.
MIKE: HERE IS THE JETS DRAFT.
I LIKED THOSE TOP TWO PICKS.
THEY TRADED AWAY THEIR SECOND
ROUNDER TO THE PACKERS AS PART
OF THE AARON RODGERS TRADE.
OLU, I THINK I WOULD START HIM
AT LEFT GUARD.
TYRON SMITH.
HE IS A PASS PROTECTOR NO MATTER
WHERE HE IS.
HE WILL BE A PLUS-PASS
PROTECTOR.
JOHN SIMPSON, I KNOW YOU SIGNED
HIM IN FREE AGENCY, HE IS NOT A
GREAT PASS PROTECTOR.
MALACHI CORLEY, YOU HAVE THE TWO
OUTSIDE RECEIVERS.
MICHAEL WILLIAMS IS A PURE
OUTSIDE RECEIVER.
CORLEY IS YOUR SCREEN GUY, WORK
THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD.
HE IS THE RANDALL COBB TO THAT
OFFENSE.
DAY 3, YOU WANT YOUR GOAL LINE
BACKS.
THEY GOT A COUPLE OF THEM.
HE IS NOT A BETWEEN THE TACKLES
DUDE.
HE CAN FLY IN SPACE.
ALLEN AND DAVIS HAVE HAD CARRIES
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THEIR
COLLEGE CAREER, 500-PLUS
CARRIES.
THEY ARE NFL READY.
TRAVIS IS A LONG-TERM BACKUP.
EVERYONE ROASTED THE JETS AND
JOE DOUGLAS FOR NOT HAVING A
BACKUP QUARTERBACK BETTER THAN
ZACH WILSON.
IT WAS A PLAYOFF TEAM WITH ANY
SEMBLANCE OF OK QUARTERBACK
PLAY.
TRAVIS IS YOUR ANTI-ZACH WILSON
BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY.
HE DEFINITELY DOES NOT HAVE
THOSE TOOLS BUT HE WILL NOT LOOK
LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER LIKE
ZACH WILSON DID AT TIMES.
MICHAEL: LET’S GET INTO THE
COWBOYS DRAFT.
MIKE: I AM NOT AS HIGH ON IT AT
SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE.
AS SOME DRAFTS I HAVE SEEN IN
THE PAST.
I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THE TWO —
PICK 56 AND 73, THOSE ARE GOOD
FOOTBALL PLAYERS.
ARE THEY DELETE?
I DON’T KNOW.
BUT MARSHAWN KNEELAND FITS IN
GREAT.
THE DEFENSIVE LINE THAT WANTS
TO THROW THE KITCHEN SINK AT
YOU.
YOU COULD HAVE A STARTING GUARD
OR STARTING CENTER.
I WOULD PUT IT MIDDLE TO LOWER
PART OF THE 32 TEAMS AND HOW I
FEEL ABOUT THE DRAFT.
THAT IS MY TAKE.
MICHAEL: THERE WE GO.
LET’S SEE WHAT WE GET FROM THE
COWBOYS.
I THINK THEIR PICK IS CLOSE TO
COMING IN.
THEY HAVE JAKE FERGUSON AT TIGHT
END.
ARE THERE ANY RUNNING BACKS ON
THE BOARD THEY COULD BE
INTERESTED IN?
MIKE: THE RUNNING BACK CLASS IN
TERMS OF GUYS I LIKE HAVE FREE
MUCH DRIED UP, UNFORTUNATELY.
WE HAVE HAD A TONE — WE HAVE
HAD A TON COME OFF THE BOARD ON
DAY 3.
CARSON, WAKE FOREST CORNER,
COMES OFF THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: THERE WE GO.
MIKE: HE HAD SOME FANS.
I KNOW NUMEROUS PEOPLE WHO EVER
SPECKED AS EVALUATORS HAD HIM AS
A TOP-100 PLAYER.
I DID NOT SEE THE TWITCH IN HIS
GAME TO BE A PRODUCTIVE NFL
CORNER AND THAT IS WHY HE
SLIPPED.
HE WAS DIFFICULT TO THROW ON.
FOUR-YEAR STARTER AT WAKE
FOREST.
53.2% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
ALLOWED IN HIS CAREER.
A REALLY SOLID OVERALL CORNER.
I GIVE IT AN "A" AT THIS POINT.
I WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE WHO HAD
HIM IN THE TOP 100 BUT I THOUGHT
HE WOULD BE OFF THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
HIS DEFENSE?
MIKE: HE WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE
SLOT.
YOU HAVE YOUR OUTSIDE CORNERS IN
TOE, BLAND, DIGGS.
THOSE GUYS ARE PRETTY MUCH
LOCKED IN AT THAT POINT.
JORDAN LEWIS IS YOUR SLOT.
HE HAS BEEN STEADY, NOT
SPECTACULAR.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HOW PHYSICAL HE
IS WHEN HE WANTS TO BE.
HE HAS THE ABILITY TO TRACK
GUYS.
THIS IS A GUY I WILL GIVE AN "A
."
IT ADDS SOME DEPTH IN THE BACK
END.
THEY HAVE GONE TWO OFFENSIVE
LINEMEN, A DEFENSIVE LINEMAN.
MIKE: WHO IS UP NEXT?
MICHAEL: SINCE.
MIKE: THE SAINTS ARE UP NEXT?
MICHAEL: FORD.
OK.
MIKE: JAYLAN FORD.
GOOD SIZE FOR THE POSITION.
6’2", 240.
I THOUGHT HE WAS FASTER THAN A
4.71.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A SIDELINE TO
SIDELINE GUY.
I WAS SURPRISED HE CAME OUT.
I THOUGHT HE HAD SOME BETTER
FOOTBALL AHEAD OF HIM.
I DID NOT LOVE WHAT HE PUT ON
TAPE THIS PAST FALL.
I WAS PRETTY LOW ON HIM.
HIS C1
HE HAS TRAITS TO BE A STARTING
NFL LINEBACKER.
MICHAEL: I DON’T THINK THEY ARE
TAKING HIM UP TO BE A SUPERSTAR.
THE REALITY IS THIS IS A TEAM
WHERE YOU HAVE TO ADD BODIES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE TOP
OF THE SHOW.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR?
SOMEBODY WILL HELP YOU GET
READY.
I AM EXCITED.
MIKE: WHAT HAVE THE SAINTS DONE
SO FAR IN THIS DRAFT?
I’M KIND OF BLANKING ON THEIR
PICKS.
I THINK HE IS A GOOD FOOTBALL
PLAYER.
THEY ARE OVER THAT.
I CANNOT GET OUT ON BAD
CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE.
I REALLY CANNOT GET OUT OF THAT
CONTRACT.
WITHOUT PAYING A PRICE FOR IT.
HE IS RUMORED TO NOT BE ABLE TO
PLAY THIS YEAR.
WITHOUT REALLY PAYING A PRICE
FOR THESE DEALS WITH ALL THE BED
— DEAD CAP SPACE THEY HAVE.
THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO PUSH TO
CREATE THAT SPACE.
LOOKING HOW MANY GUYS THEY SIGN
EVERY YEAR.
THE BILLS COME DUE.
THAT IS WHERE THEY’RE ARE AT.
NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO PIECE IT
TOGETHER.
THE WAY DEREK CARR LOOKED IN
THAT OFFENSE LAST YEAR, I’M NOT
SURE ABOUT THAT.
WE WILL SEE HOW THINGS GO.
THE REASON THEY DID NOT FIRE
THEIR COACHES NO ONE WOULD TAKE
THAT JOB RIGHT NOW.
MICHAEL: YOU ARE HAMSTRUNG.
MIKE: THIS ROSTER IS NOT GETTING
ANY BETTER.
WHEN YOU CANNOT ADD THREE FREE
AGENCY, YOU NEED TO REPLENISH
WITH GOOD PLAYERS AT THE
EVALUABLE POSITIONS.
THAT IS THE TRANSITION PLAN.
MAYBE THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF
EACH.
OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THAT IS FINE.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE OTHER
POSITIONS THEY COULD’VE GONE.
THAT IS WHY I THINK THEY ARE IN
A TOUGH SPOT.
BUT THAT WAS A GOOD PICK.
HERE THEY GO.
HERE WE GO.
CFL CORNER.
DID YOU WATCH SOME CFL TAPE TO
GET HERE?
I DID THAT A LITTLE BIT.
HE IS A GOOD ATHLETE.
YOU SEE IT ON HIS TAPE.
WELL-BUILT.
YOU SEE THE EXPLOSIVENESS TO HIS
GAME.
I LOVE THE WAY HE TRACKS THE
BALL IN THE AIR.
DON’T FEEL BAD IF YOU HAVE NEVER
WATCHED IT.
[LAUGHTER]
THEY HAVE TO PLAY WEIRD
COVERAGES.
BECAUSE OF HOW THE RULES ARE.
SO HE IS OUT ON THE OUTSIDE AND
HE IS PLAYING WHAT LOOKS LIKE A
COVER TWO.
THE RECEIVERS ARE SPRINTING.
THE PROJECTION IS REALLY WEIRD
OF WHAT HE WILL HAVE TO DO.
HE DID NOT GET SCHOLARSHIP OFFER
IS COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
DID NOT EVEN PLAY ANYWHERE.
HE WAS A GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER
AT A TINY HIGH SCHOOL IN
GEORGIA.
HE GOES TO ATLANTA AND PLAYS IN
AN INDOOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE.
THAT WHOLE JOHNNY MANZELLA THING
THAT WAS GOING ON.
HE GOES TO THE CFL LAST YEAR.
NOW THE GUY WILL BE PLAYING IN
THE NFL FOR THE JETS NEXT YEAR.
THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENTAL MEET
ON HIS BONES RIGHT NOW.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE DATA RETAKES.
MICHAEL: THAT IS WHY YOU ARE THE
BEST.
LOOK AT THAT.
MIKE: SOME GUYS WERE NOT ON MY
WATCH.
BUT HIS NAME CAME ACROSS MY
DESK.
MICHAEL: LET’S GO AHEAD AND READ
— RECAP THIS ROUND.
THE KID FROM AUBURN.
THIS IS WHAT WE STARTED TO SEE.
A BUNCH OF THE CORNERS.
HART.
VAN PRAN.
BOOKER, ONE OF YOUR GUYS, COMES
OFF THE BOARD.
HE IS A GUY I REALLY LIKE.
HE COMES OFF THE BOARD.
ESTIME COMES OFF THE BOARD.
I CAN BERG — EICHENBERG.
SPENCER RATTLER COMES OFF THE
BOARD.
SMITH FROM TEXAS A&M.
PRINCE, JACKSON, TROTTER.
VERY HAPPY ABOUT HIM.
HE GOES TO THE EAGLES.
THAT IS, LIKE A LEGACY TAKE.
WHERE WE HAD NOW.
TRACY, ROBINSON.
THIS ROUND JUST KEEPS ON GOING
AND GOING.
THAT IS A GUY THAT I REALLY
LIKE.
JORDAN TRAVIS, WE TALKED ABOUT
AND.
HE IS GOING TO THE JETS.
FORD FROM TEXAS.
MIKE: I WILL SAY THIS, I
THOUGHTS THIS THIRD TIER OF
CORNERS, I JUST HAD A TON OF
GUYS.
THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH TEAM TO
DRAFT THEM.
IF YOU GOT A CORNER IN THE FIFTH
ROUND HERE, I THINK YOU GOT
VALUE.
IT WAS TOUGH TO JOCKEY THOSE
GUYS.
A LOT OF THEM ARE SKILL SET
DEPENDENT OR SCHEME DEPENDENT.
BUT IF YOU GOT ONE OF THOSE
GUYS, I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD
PLAYER.
OR POTENTIALLY A GOOD PLAYER.
A GUY WHO CAN START FOR YOU.
HERE IS MY DRAFT BOARD OF WHAT I
THINK OF WHAT I THINK ARE THE
TOP AVAILABLE PLAYERS.
ONE OF YOUR BEST ZONE THE
CORNERS IN THIS DRAFT CLASS.
A GOOD MAN CORNER.
HE FELL BECAUSE OF INJURY
ISSUES.
LEONARD TAYLOR IS A SURPRISE TO
FALL HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER.
YOU ARE NOT SEEING GUYS DECLARE
EARLY.
THOSE ARE THIRD-YEAR DEFENSIVE
TACKLES.
THEY CAME BACK TO SCHOOL AND PUT
ON SOME EXTRA WEIGHT.
DID NOT PLAY NOSE TACKLE WHICH
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
THEY COULD ABOUT THEIR DRAFT
STOCK.
BUT THEY CAME OUT EARLY AND NOW
THEY ARE HERE IN THE NEXT ROUND.
THE TALENT IS UNDENIABLE.
WILSON MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MOST
HEAD SCRATCHING ONES TO ME.
HE WANTS TO STAY AT WIDE
RECEIVER.
I LIKE THE WAY HE BLOCKS.
HE WAS AN OUTSIDE WIDE RECEIVER.
IT IS TOO EASY FOR NFL CORNERS.
TO GET THEIR HANDS ON GUYS LIKE
THAT.
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT BIG OF A
STRIKE ZONE.
IF IT IS A SAFETY OR A
LINEBACKER, GOOD NIGHT.
HE IS GETTING AWAY FROM THOSE
GUYS WITH EASE.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE SPECTACULAR.
WHY IS HE PLAYING BASKETBALL?
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
GIVE ME A SEVEN FOOT WINGSPAN.
VERY SURPRISED.
MAYBE THERE WERE SOME MEDICAL
ISSUES.
MAYBE I SHOULD GET SOME OF MY
SOURCES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS
GOING ON.
I THINK HE IS FAR MORE TALENTED.
WE KICKOFF AROUND SIX.
YOU SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
HE WAS PLAYING A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT KIND OF FOOTBALL.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET FROM
THAT TAPE MUCH MORE.
ARE THERE ANY TEAMS THAT HAVE
LIKE A ZILLION PICKS IN THIS
ROUND?
THE TEXANS HAVE NUMEROUS PICKS.
FALCONS WILL HAVE SOME PICKS.
FEELS LIKE THE EAGLES ABBEY
ZILLION PICKS IN THIS DRAFT.
THE RAMS, THIS IS THE TEAM I AM
MOST EXCITED TO WATCH IN THIS
ROUND.
THEY HAVE FOUR PICKS AND I
ALWAYS SEEM TO FIND SOME GUYS AT
THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT.
MICHAEL: THERE WE GO, OKLAHOMA.
HE IS BUILT IN THE SAME MOLD AS
THE LAST SEVERAL OKLAHOMA
OFFENSIVE LINEMAN WE HAVE SEEN.
HE CAN PUSH YOU.
MIKE: HE IS HIGH CUT.
I DON’T SEE HIM AS A STARTER AT
EITHER POSITION.
BUT HE HAS PLAYED A TON OF
FOOTBALL.
ANOTHER GUIDE IN THAT MOLD OF
YOU HAVE TO START HIM, I DON’T
THINK IT’S THE WORST THING IN
THE WORLD.
HE IS VERY TALENTED.
HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL.
WILL HE BE GREAT?
PROBABLY NOT.
BUT HE CAN PLAY LEFT SIDE OR
RIGHT SIDE.
MICHAEL: THE INTERESTING THING
WITH ROWS — ROUSE IS IF
SOMEBODY GOES DOWN.
MIKE: THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF STAR
TACKLES.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
NEED TO HAVE A NEED THERE
ANYTIME SOON.
MICHAEL: THE BIG THING FOR ME IS
SOMETHING HAPPENS AND HE HAS TO
PLAY, THAT IS WHERE HE GETS SOME
OPPORTUNITY.
MAYBE HE DOES TURN INTO SOMEONE
WHO’S SOMEBODY ELSE IS
INTERESTED IN.
THERE WILL BE REALLY
INTERESTING.
MICHAEL: IT IS JUST A DIFFERENCE
IN PHILOSOPHY.
WE HAVE SEEN TACKLES COME OFF
THE BOARD WHO ARE WORSE.
WHO CAME OFF THE BOARD?
MICHAEL: LOGAN LEE FROM IOWA.
MIKE: I HAD HIM HIGHER.
GOING TO THE STEELERS.
THAT IS THE PERFECT FIT FOR HIM.
TAILOR-MADE.
I THINK SHE WILL STRUGGLE TO
RESET THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
BUT I LOVE THE PHYSICALITY HE
PLAYS WITH.
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
HE CANNOT OF HAS SHORT ARMS.
BUT HE’S A GOOD ATHLETE.
PROTOTYPICAL IOWA DEFENSIVE
LINEMAN.
HE CAN BE A GOOD PART OF THE
ROTATION.
I WILL GIVE THIS ONE AN A.
MICHAEL: THEIR DRAFT IS GREAT.
WE WILL BRING THAT UP IN A
SECOND.
I THINK HE CAN SET THE ADAGE.
I DON’T THINK HE WILL BE ABLE TO
GET OFF THE BLOCK.
THE REALITY FOR ME IS IF YOU
LIVE HIM UP ON TOP OF THE TACKLE
, HE WILL BE ABLE TO GET
LEVERAGE.
THE GUYS OFF THAT ED’S WILL BE
ABLE TO GO AND MAKE SOME PLAYS.
THAT IS THE PART THAT I REALLY
LIKE ABOUT HIM.
MIKE: HE PLAYS FOR THE STEELERS
NOW.
WE CAN TAKE HIM OFF THE BOARD.
THAT IS WHO IT IS.
HE IS A TACKLE AT UTAH.
HE IS TRUE.
IT SEEMS LIKE UTAH HAS THE SKY
EVERY YEAR.
A BRUISER.
A MAMMOTH TACKLE WHO JUST LEANS
ON GUYS.
HE WENT DOWN TO THE SENIOR BOWL
AND HAD SOME REPS AT TACKLE THAT
WERE PRETTY SCARY.
HE DOES SOME GOOD WORK IN THE
RUNNING GAME.
THEY LOVE BIGGER GUARDS IN
SEATTLE.
THAT IS THEIR TYPE.
HE FITS THE TYPE.
WE ARE MOVING.
EVERYTHING IS MOVING FAST.
MIKE: THIS TIME WAS NOT ON MY
WATCHLIST.
MICHAEL: QUARTERBACK FROM SOUTH
CAROLINA.
I LIKE HIM.
THERE IS A FIGHT TO HIM.
HE IS INCONSISTENT.
BUT WHEN HE IS CONSISTENT AND
FOCUSED.
I LIKE HIM.
I LIKE THE FACT HE IS ABLE TO GO
OUT THERE AND MAKE SOME PLAYS.
THAT IS WHAT WE’VE GOT.
MORE OF A MAN CORNER.
MIKE: THAT IS A MAN TEAM.
I LIKE THAT.
MICHAEL: I DIG IT.
NEXT UP WE HAVE THE CHARGERS.
LET’S GET THE CHAT INVOLVED.
I WOULD LOVE TO DRAFT THIS GUY
AND SWITCH OF THE TIGHT END.
HE COULD BE LOGAN THOMAS AT THAT
POSITION.
THERE HE IS.
YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE FOR SOME
PLAYING TIME.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT THEY WOULD
COME ARRAY WITH KAREEM RIGHT.
I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN RELY ON
HIM.
HE IS KIND OF A HOME RUN HITTER.
HE HAS THAT NFL TIGHT BODY.
SOME REAL THICKNESS TO HIS LOWER
HAVE.
HE WILL NOT BE A PASS CATCHING
WEAPON.
HE WILL STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
BUT WHEN HE GETS TO THE SECOND
LEVEL, THERE IS SOME REAL
BREAKAWAY SPEED.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE
OFFENSE.
THERE YOU HAVE IT.
MICHAEL: HE PLAYS WITH MORE
POWER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT OUT
OF HIS FRAME.
HE CAN RUN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
POWER.
HE CAN BE YOUR GUIDE WHO FITS
INTO THAT MOLD.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GUYS
PLAYING ON THAT SAME LEVEL.
I LIKE IT.
MIKE: HERE IS THE CHARGERS
DRAFT.
I LIKE THE FIRST THREE.
AFTER THAT, I’M NOT SURE.
IF ANY OF THOSE GUYS IN THAT
BEING STARTERS.
WHO KNOWS.
EVERYBODY HAS WANTED TO MOVE HIM
INTO THAT POSITION.
I LOVE WHAT THEY DID WITH THE
FIRST FEW PICKS.
HERE IS A GUY WHO COULD BE A
SPEEDSTER.
WE’LL DEAL DYNAMISM.
OBVIOUSLY AT THE SMALLER IN THE.
EVEN IN THAT OFFENSE HE WAS ON A
STARTER.
DID NOT PLAY A TON OF SNAPS OVER
THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER.
BUT THIS COULD BE A KICK RETURN
AIR.
MICHAEL: THAT IS WHAT I WAS
GOING TO SAY.
WE JUST SHOWED THEM A CLIP OF
MAKING A RETURN.
HE COULD BE A RETURN GUIDE.
MIKE: THAT IS THE PANIC.
THERE YOU GO.
MICHAEL: WE ARE CRUISING.
UCLA LINEBACKER.
OK.
MIKE: I DO NOT HAVE AN.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
I HAVE NOTES.
HE IS A TACKLE.
HE CAN ALSO BRING PRESSURE AND
DELIVER WITH HIS BUILD UP SPEED.
HE CAN BE A COVERAGE ISSUE.
I THINK THAT WILL BE A REAL BIG
THING.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
THIRD-DOWN.
THIS WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING
TO SEE.
IF HE CAN STAY ON THE FIELD.
THAT IS THE BIG KEY FOR ME.
THAT IS A PART THAT WILL BE
REALLY INTERESTING.
HOW HE FITS INTO THAT ROSTER.
HE HAS AN IDEA OF WHAT TO DO.
HE WILL NOT BE WRONG VERY OFTEN.
BUT HE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT THERE
AND TRUE THAT CONSISTENTLY.
AND PLAY SIDE TO SIDE.
MIKE: ANY POWER BACKS?
I DID MENTION THAT QUESTION.
HE WILL GET DRAFTED.
I WOULD BE FLOORED IF HE DID
NOT.
I BET BY THE END OF THE SIXTH
ROUND.
HE IS TOO TALENTED OF AN
ATHLETE.
AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT YOU
ARE TAKING GUYS WHO ARE ATHLETES
JUSTICE THE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
THAT IS WHY I WILL SEE HIS NAME
COME OFF THE BOARD.
LET ME GO WITH WHAT I HAVE HERE.
WE HAVE RUN THROUGH A GOOD
AMOUNT OF POWER BACKS.
THE WASHINGTON RUNNING ADIA
POWER BACK.
HE HAS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TO HIS
GAME.
HE HAD INJURIES OVER THE COURSE
OF HIS CAREER.
BUT THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST
ONE.
I LIKE WILLIAMS A LITTLE BIT IN
THAT ROLE.
HE IS A BOWLING BALL.
HE WAS STUCK BEHIND SOME GOOD
RUNNING BACKS AT OHIO STATE.
THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS.
DO YOU SEE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS
BACK IN THIS DRAFT?
MICHAEL: THAT IS INTERESTING
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT AS VERSATILE
AS IT USED TO BE.
MIKE: WE SAW IT, THE GUYS WHO
WERE WHEN LATE.
THE DOLPHINS.
MIKE: THEY DRAFTED WASHINGTON.
MICHAEL: THAT IS ONE OF YOUR
GUYS.
MIKE: I LOVE IT.
HE IS A GREAT PICK FOR THEM.
THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE.
HE’S A LITTLE BIT MORE PHYSICAL.
YOU SEE THE DYNAMISM AND.
WHAT HE CREATES AFTER THE CATCH
CONSISTENTLY.
I DON’T THINK HE IS AN ELITE
SLOT RUNNER BY ANY MEANS BUT HE
HAS GREAT HANDS.
FOR A GUY WHO IS SHORT.
HIS CATCH RATE IS BIG.
HE DID NOT DROP BALLS.
HE CAN REALLY GO UP AND GET IT.
I LIKE THIS GUYS TAPE.
MICHAEL: HE PLAYS BIGGER THAN HE
IS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH
VIRGINIA.
THIS IS A GUY WHO MAKES
CONTESTED CATCHES.
THAT IS A CORNER.
WHEN YOU DO IT FROM HIS SIZE.
HE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A LOT.
IN THESE — UNLESS HE IS
COMPLETELY WIDE OPEN.
HE WAS TO MAKE A LOT OF
CONTESTED CATCHES.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW THEY USE THEM.
HE HAS A GOOD CHANCE.
MIKE: THE GUY CAN REALLY BOUNCE.
MICHAEL: THAT IS HOW YOU CREATE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU HAVE A 42 INCH VERTICAL.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
CATCHES.
MIKE: HE HAS A BIGGER WINGSPAN
THAN ROMAN WILSON.
HE WENT A BUNCH OF ROUNDS
EARLIER.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE CAN DO.
MICHAEL: THE EAGLES ARE BACK ON
THE CLOCK.
MIKE: CAN WE STOP WITH THIS.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE DOUBLE FALCONS
FILLING ON.
MIKE: HE IS A SKINNY CORNER.
MICHAEL: BUT HE PLAYS SO
PHYSICAL.
I GUESS SIZE IS A BIG IMPACT
PEOPLE.
BUT HE PLAYS SO PHYSICAL.
I’M SURPRISED HE WENT THERE.
THAT IS KIND OF THE DECIDING
FACTOR.
ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
LENGTH.
I THINK THEY ARE BOTH SKINNY.
WE BOTH HAD HIM HIGHER.
A LOT OF TIMES WITH A CORNER
SPECIFICALLY, YOU HAVE A SKILL
SET.
THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DRAFT
HIM.
HOW DOES THIS GUY FIT INTO
EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO DO?
YOUR GUY JUST CAME OFF THE
BOARD.
HE ENDS UP WITH THE EAGLES.
HE IS NOT ON ATHLETIC.
HE CAN GET OPEN ON HIS OWN.
YOU GET IN THAT BIG STRIKE
SEVEN.
THEY HAD A MOST NUMBERS.
HE CAN MOVE.
LOOK AT HIM.
THAT IS A GOOD ROUTE.
HE COULD BE YOUR SLOT RECEIVER
RIGHT OUT THE GATE FOR THE
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES.
THAT IS A BIG RECEIVING CORE TO
HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
HE IS SKINNY AND LONG.
HE OPENS UP THE BOARD.
THIS IS TALENT.
I DON’T CARE HOW LOW YOU WERE ON
WILSON.
I DID NOT SEE HIM OUT OF THE TOP
ONE FOR THE.
SO THIS IS IN A PLASTIC.
— A+ PICK.
MICHAEL: I WANTED TO BE MORE
PHYSICAL.
BUT I LIKE IT AS WELL.
MIKE: IF YOU ARE WATCHING, TAKE
THAT SMILE OFF OF YOUR FACE.
MICHAEL: THE FALCONS PICKED IS
IN.
THEY HAVE BACK TO BACK PICKS.
THAT IS THEIR SECOND PICK.
WOOW.
THE RUNNING BACK FROM ALABAMA.
I REMEMBER HIM COMING OUT OF
HIGH SCHOOL.
HE COULD NOT STAY HEALTHY.
THAT WAS HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM.
HE IS SUPER TALENTED.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE TOP
OF THE SHOW.
SWEAR YOU PICK GUYS TO SHOW
TRAITS.
HE HAS SHOWN FLASHES.
I LIKE THIS PICK.
HOPEFULLY HE CAN DEVELOP IN THE
SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WORK.
HE WELL AS LONG AS HE STAYS
HEALTHY.
MIKE: A FOOT INJURY THIS PAST
YEAR.
HE DID NOT WORK OUT IN THE DRAFT
BECAUSE OF IT.
I NEVER SAW HIM AS A POWER BACK.
I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT GUYS WHO
PLAY BELOW THEIR WEIGHT.
MICHAEL: NOW WE ARE AT
WASHINGTON.
MIKE: INTERESTING.
I LOVED HIS TEAMMATE.
MICHAEL: THAT IS WHAT STOOD OUT
TO ME THE MOST.
THAT WILL BE INTERESTING.
THE FALCONS CONTINUED TO MAKE US
SCRATCH OUR HEADS.
IF YOU ARE A FALCONS FAN, GET IN
THE CHAT.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINKING?
WHO HAVE THEY PICKED?
IT STARTED OUT WITH THE PENIX
SITUATION.
DRAFTING A GUY THAT YOU WANT TO
HAVE SIT FOR A WHILE.
HE COULD BE GOOD.
MIKE: IS IT BAD THAT I THINK PE
NIX IS THEIR BEST PICK?
EVERY SINGLE ONE I HAD MUCH
LOWER ON MY DRAFT BOARD.
I DON’T KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAD HIM
THERE.
PEOPLE WHO I TRUST.
THEY ARE OUT ON A LIMB FOR A LOT
OF GUYS IN THIS DRAFT.
IT IS WORTH NOTING.
MICHAEL: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THEY HAVE BACK TO BACK PICKS.
AS LONG AS YOU GET PICKED.
THEY ARE AT IT AGAIN.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
WASHINGTON.
THE LIONS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
MIKE: KIND OF LIKE THEIR DRAFT.
I HATE TO SAY IT.
MICHAEL: IT IS OUR GUYS WHO SEEM
LIKE THEY FIT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE
STEELERS.
WITH THE EAGLES.
THEY ARE GETTING GUYS WHO IT
WITH THEM.
MIKE: AN INTERESTING NOTE, THEY
HAD ENLISTED AS A RUNNING BACK.
MICHAEL: DID THEY CHANGE THAT?
MIKE: I DON’T KNOW.
WHEN YOU SUBMIT A PLAYER, YOU
LIST A POSITION ALONGSIDE.
MICHAEL: EARLIER THEY HAD HIM AT
SAFETY.
MIKE: THAT IS COOL.
HE WAS SWEET.
HE IS A HYBRID.
HE CAN DO WHATEVER.
THE ALABAMA CORNER.
THE MISSOURI CORNER.
THAT IS A FUN DRAFT.
IF I’M A LIONS FAN, YOU JUST
OVER THE MOON WITH WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE.
THIS ROSTER IS SWEET.
MICHAEL: THEY ARE MAKING IT
WORK.
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD SITUATION
FOR THEM.
MIKE: BUT I LOVE IS WHEN YOU GET
THAT GOOD, YOUNG ROSTER, LET’S
MAKE THAT ONE PLAY TO PUSH US
OVER THE EDGE.
LET’S SPEND BIG ON THIS FREE
AGENT THAT WILL CHANGE THE
PARADIGM WE WILL SIGN VALUE FREE
AGENTS.
THEY GOT WINGO.
HE IS YOUNG.
I LOVED HIS ABILITY TO GET INTO
THE BACKFIELD.
I LIKE TO MORE THAN JORDAN
JEFFERSON.
HE IS YOUNGER.
YOU DON’T NEED HIM TO START
RIGHT AWAY.
HE COULD BE A THIRD-DOWN GUIDE
FOR YOU.
THAT IS WHERE HE SHOULD EXCEL.
MICHAEL: ALSO THE EXPLOSION OFF
OF THE LINE.
IT IS PALPABLE.
VERY REAL.
HIS FIRST STEP IS WILD.
HOW CAN HE DO THAT AT THAT SIZE?
NOBODY IS TOUCHING HIM.
WHEN YOU ARE THAT EXPLOSIVE AND
THAT LOAD TO THE EARTH, IT IS
DIFFICULT TO OFFENSE OF LINEMAN
TO GET LEVERAGE.
WHAT ANSWER DO YOU HAVE?
YOU CANNOT GET TO A SIX FOOTER.
THAT IS WHAT JAMES HARRISON
LIVED OFF IN HIS CAREER.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED WITH HIS
BODY TYPE.
TO GO DOWN WAIT AND DO THAT.
BE THAT GUY.
LIKE JAMES HARRISON.
THEY HAVE ENOUGH DEFENSIVE
LINEMAN THAT THEY DON’T NEED AN
EVERY DOWN STARTER.
HE HAS AN INTERESTING SKILL SET.
A GOOD TAKE.
MICHAEL: THERE WE GO.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO?
I THINK HE WOULD MAKE SENSE.
HE IS MORE TALENTED THAN THIS.
MICHAEL: I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
HIM TO GET PICKED.
I REALLY LIKE HIM.
I THINK HE IS A VERY GOOD
PLAYER.
HE SLASHED EARLY AND HE MADE
THINGS HAPPEN.
I THINK HE PLAYED OUT OF
POSITION.
AT THE END OF THE DAYS HE HAS
THAT SQUAT.
WHERE HE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
PLAY.
MIKE: HE WAS A HIGH RECRUIT.
REDSHIRT FRESHMAN YEAR.
HE IS A MONSTER.
PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIM.
GOING INTO THIS YEAR.
THAT IS NOT WHO THEY DRAFTED.
BUT I THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE AT
THIS POINT.
[LAUGHTER]
THAT IS ON ME.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS
TALKING ABOUT.
THE DEVELOPMENT.
I SET IT EARLY IN THE SHOW.
SECOND-BEST SHORT SHUTTLE AT THE
COMBINE.
THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 20 GUYS.
IN NFL HISTORY.
TO NOT BECOME QUALITY STARTERS.
HE IS SUCH A GOOD ATHLETE.
MAYBE THE BEST OFFENSIVE LINE
COACH.
THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHAT —
DEVELOP THIS GUY PROBABLY INTO A
CENTER.
HE CAN MAYBE PLAY GUARD BUT HE
HAS SHORT ARMS.
I THINK HE IS SET AT CENTER.
HE CAN MOVE AROUND.
THIS IS WITH WHAT HE SPECIALIZES
IN.
MIKE: I LIKE THE PICK.
THAT WAS WHY THEY DRAFTED HIM.
TO DEVELOP HIM A YEAR BEFORE
THEY ACTUALLY NEEDED HIM.
NOW THEY NEED HIM.
THIS JUST GIVES YOU INSURANCE AT
THE POSITION.
MICHAEL: ON THE IT.
MIKE: WHERE ARE THEY GOING?
[LAUGHTER]
MICHAEL: I JUST DID NOT WANT THE
CHAT TO GET ON YOU.
FOLKS WOULD GET MAD.
MIKE: I KNOW.
[LAUGHTER]
MIKE: WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING UP.
THE CARDINALS ARE BACK ON.
MICHAEL: WIDE RECEIVER, CORNER,
OFFENSIVE LINE.
MIKE: HEADING INTO THIS DRAFT,
THEY DID NOT HAVE A GOOD
RECEIVING CORE.
I LIKE MICHAEL WILSON MORE IN
THE SLOT.
I DON’T THINK HE’S ANYTHING TO
GET EXCITED ABOUT AS A STARTER.
YOU ARE GOING INTO THIS YEAR, IT
IS FINE.
YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH.
YOU ARE GOING FOR IT.
THEY DRAFTED A RUNNING BACK
EARLIER.
WHO DID THEY DRAFT EARLIER?
HE IS LIKELY YOUR STARTER.
SO YOU HAVE GIVEN TYLER MURRAY A
GOOD SITUATION.
THEY DRAFTED ADAMS.
THAT IS WHERE HE WILL PLAY.
THEY HAVE DONE A LOT.
I HAVE NOT WATCHED.
IS THAT HIS NAME?
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
MICHAEL: GOOD DOWN THE FIELD
THREAT.
HE IS A GOOD SIZE.
HE CAN PUSH DOWN THE FIELD.
I WANT TO SEE HIM MAKE MORE
CONTESTED CATCHES.
YOU GET TO SEE A LOT OF THESE
GUYS.
MIKE: HE CAN MAYBE BE A NUMBER
TWO IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SPEED.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING
FOR.
THEY DON’T HAVE THAT GUY.
WILSON IS A SLOWER WIDE RECEIVER
HE WAS A GOAT ROUTE RUNNER.
HE PROJECTS BETTER.
THE CARDINAL SHOULD BE BETTER
THIS YEAR.
THEY STILL FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A
WAYS AWAY.
UNFORTUNATELY.
HERE IS YOUR GUIDE.
MICHAEL: HERE HE IS.
LET’S GO.
MIKE: SECOND TO LAST AUBURN
PLAYER ON THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: HE IS ON MY UNDERDOG
BOARD.
HE CAN PLAY FROM THE SLOT.
I REALLY LIKE THIS GUIDE.
I THINK HE HAS A REALLY GOOD
SKILLS.
OBVIOUSLY HE IS UNDERSIZED.
MY GUYS ARE STARTING TO COME OFF
NOW.
I LOVE WATCHING HIM PLAY.
I THINK THIS GUY PLAYS A LOT
TIGHTER.
A LOT MORE FEARLESS.
VIOLENT IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT
WORD.
MIKE: I LOVED HIS ABILITY TO
EXPLODE.
COME BACK DOWN.
HE WAS GOOD AT THAT.
HE HAS LONG ARMS.
EVEN IF HE IS NOT PUT TOGETHER
LIKE A REAL THIN FRAME.
HE CAN STILL PLAY BEHIND PEOPLE.
HERE IT IS.
THE GUY I SAID WOULD COME OFF
THE BOARD SOMEWHERE IN THIS
ROUND.
THE TENNESSEE QUARTERBACK.
I WANT TO MEDITATE IN.
HE HAS THE STRONGEST ARM I HAVE
SEEN FROM A COLLEGE PROSPECT.
JUST AN ABSOLUTE BOOMER FROM THE
POCKET.
HE CAN REALLY SCOOT OUT IN THE
OPEN FIELD.
A GREAT ATHLETE.
YOU SAW THEM NUMEROUS TIMES OUT
IN SPACE.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE WORKING
WITH.
SIZE, SPEED, PHYSICALITY.
HE IS AN ATHLETE.
I DON’T THINK YOU CAN FIX THAT.
THE OFFENSE AT TENNESSEE IS NOT
CONDUCIVE TO DEVELOPING
DECISION-MAKING.
I AM PUTTING THEM AT TIGHT END.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT THE
BANGLES DO — BENGALS DO.
A FORMER WIDE RECEIVER.
LET ME LOOK IT UP REAL QUICK.
I THOUGHT ON TAPE TO LOOKS LIKE
HE PLAYED BETTER.
WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
HE RAN SLOWER THAN EXPECTED.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A LITTLE STIFF
AS A ROUTE RUNNER.
HE WON’T GET HIMSELF OPEN
CONSISTENTLY.
BUT HE HAS REALLY GOOD HANDS.
HE CAN CREATE A LITTLE BIT AFTER
THE CATCH.
CINCINNATI IS REALLY LOOKING FOR
THAT.
AND THAT OFFENSE.
TRYING TO TAKE A SWING HERE.
I LOVE THE PIC.
MICHAEL: A STAR AT SOUTHERN
UTAH.
ARIZONA, FOR A TEAM THAT HAS
BEEN OFF, THEY HAVE HAD SOME
GUYS GET PICKED.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WILL KEEP
GETTING BETTER.
I LIKE THAT.
THE STEELERS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
MIKE: HE BUILT SOME TALENT.
YOU DON’T SAY THAT ABOUT
ARIZONA.
MICHAEL: HAVE ANY TIGHT ENDS
HAVE WE SEEN COME UP THE BOARD
SO FAR?
BROCK BOWERS, OBVIOUSLY.
WE KNEW HE WOULD BE NUMBER ONE.
A COUPLE OF GUYS WHO WERE AHEAD
SCRATCHERS.
SANDERS KICKED OFF THE DAY
TODAY.
SHE IS A GUY WE HAVE BEEN
WAITING ON.
STOVER REUNITES WITH C.J.
STROUD.
AND NOW MCGLOCKLIN.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 10 TIGHT
ENDS WHO HAVE COME UP THE BOARD.
MIKE: I HAVE BROCK BOWERS AS
NUMBER ONE.
HE IS A MASSIVE GUY.
NOT CLOSE.
I THINK WILSON IS A TIGHT END.
THOSE WERE THE GUYS I SAW AS
STARTERS.
THE TAKE IS IN.
HE IS TOUGH.
WILLING TO SET THE EDGE.
HE WILL SET THE EDGE.
NO WIDE RECEIVER CAN BLOCK HIM.
I LOVE THAT.
WHEN A CORNER AND IS WILLING TO
DO THAT.
HE HAS THE SIZE.
I THINK HE IS A SAFETY.
I’M NOT SURE I’M KEEPING HIM AT
CORNER.
HE HAS THE SIDES WHERE YOU CAN
DO IT.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DO
WITH HIM.
AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT, THIS
GUYS A PLUS SPECIAL TEAM.
THAT IS WHERE HE WANTS HIM.
WHO IS COMING UP ON THE BOARD?
WE HAVE A LITTLE RUN OF RAMS
PICKS.
I’M EXCITED TO SEE YOU THEY GO
WITH.
I TALKED ABOUT THEIR UNIQUE
SCOUTING METHOD ON THE SHOW
YESTERDAY.
MICHAEL: REHASH IT FOR PEOPLE.
MIKE: THEY DO NOT LOOK AT
COMBINE MEASURABLE’S.
THEY DON’T SEND SCOUTS TO A LOT
OF THESE EVENTS.
THERE SCOUTING STAFF IS EITHER.
FACTFINDERS, THEY GO TO SCHOOLS
AND JUSTIFIED INFORMATION.
THEY DON’T GO TO WATCH GAMES.
THEY GET INFORMATION FROM
COACHES.
OR THEY HAVE GUYS TO THEIR
ENTIRE JOB IS TO WATCH TAPE.
GIVE THEIR OPINIONS.
THEY USE TRACKING DATA HEAVILY.
IT IS KIND OF A UNIQUE WAY THEY
DO BUSINESS.
THEY GET A LOT OF FIRST
ROUNDERS.
THEY HAVE HAD A GOOD HIT RATE ON
LATE ROUNDERS.
THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT AGE FOUR
SIZE.
THEY WILL DRAFT A TON OF TINY
PLAYERS.
THEY WILL DRAFT WHATEVER GUYS
THEY THINK PLAY WITH THE BALL
THE FASTEST.
THAT IS WHY YOU SAW THEM DRAFT
SOME OLDER GUYS.
THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THE
NUMBERS I JUST SAID.
THEY CARE ABOUT, HOW DOES THIS
GUIDE PLAY THE GAME OF FOOTBALL.
IT IS A UNIQUE SCOUTING METHOD.
THAT IS WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO
REBUILD.
THEY HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF
DECISIONS AFTER THAT SUPER BOWL.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
TERRIBLE.
THEY PATCHED IT TOGETHER BECAUSE
THEY HAD A LOT OF SOLID PLAYERS
WHO NOBODY KNEW ABOUT.
THEY WERE NOT ELITE.
THEY WERE NOT PLAYMAKERS.
NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME DEFENSE.
THEY DID NOT HAVE HOLES THE WAY
A LOT OF TEAMS DO WHEN YOU TAKE
THESE PROJECTS.
THEY ARE NOT TAKING PROJECTS.
THEY ARE TAKING GUYS THEY THINK
I GOOD AT THE GAME OF FOOTBALL
RIGHT NOW.
IT IS AN INTERESTING WAY OF
OPERATING AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO
ARGUE AGAINST THE RESULT.
THAT’S WHAT I’M INTERESTED TO
SEE WHO THEY PICK.
THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK
THAN OTHER TEAMS.
MICHAEL: THEY ARE DISRUPTORS.
THEY ARE DOING THINGS COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT THAN THE TRADITIONAL
METHODS.
MAKING DIFFERENT DECISIONS.
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE START
TO FOLLOW SUIT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS
HAPPENS.
WE SAY IT ALL THE TIME, THE NFL
IS A COPYCAT THE.
IF THEY CAN GET BACK TO THE
SUPER BOWL VERY QUICKLY IN THIS
WINDOW THEY HAVE WITH MATTHEW
STAFFORD, I THINK OTHER TEAMS
WILL START TO MIMIC WHAT THEY
ARE DOING.
MIKE: I THINK THEY COULD BE A
GUY WHO THEY ARE HIGH ON.
MURPHY FROM UCLA.
TRADITIONAL SCOUTING WOULD SAY
SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE A
PLAYMAKER.
IF YOU FLIP ON A TAPE OF HIM, HE
MAKES PLAYS.
I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF ONE
OF THESE NEXT FIX, HE IS ONE OF
THEM.
HE IS A FLAT OUT PLAYER.
HERE IS MY TOP AVAILABLE.
I THINK ONE OF THESE GUYS HAS
COME OFF THE BOARD ALREADY.
I WOULD NOT HATE LIMMER FOR
THEM.
HE PUT UP SOME GOOD TAPE IN THE
SEC EVEN IF HE IS REAL SKINNY.
I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE HIM.
THAT IS COLLEGE.
HE IS IN A SIMILAR MOLD.
GOOD AFTER THE CATCH.
HE WOULD BE A COMPLEMENT.
WE WILL SEE.
I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE
RAMS TO GOING FORWARD.
THAT IS HOW THEY FOUND HIM LAST
YEAR.
EVERYONE WAS LIKE WE ARE NOT
GOING TO DRAFT THAT GUIDE.
WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO?
HE IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER.
MICHAEL: AS HE MENTIONS.
VERY GOOD IN HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WORKED IT OUT IN COLLEGE.
HE ENDS UP WITH THE RAMS AS ONE
OF THEIR BEST PLAYERS.
MIKE: AARON DONALD CANNOT REALLY
BE QUANTIFIED.
THEY LOSE HIM.
THAT IS WHY THEY GO OUT AND GET
HIM.
I LIKED WHAT I SAW FROM TURNER
LAST YEAR.
HE FITS THAT MOLD.
HE IS ONLY SIX FOOT TALL.
HE HAS SHORT ARMS.
THE GUY WAS A MONSTER AT WAKE
FOREST.
HE WAS ALMOST ROOKIE OF THE
YEAR.
HE PUT UP DOUBLE DIGIT SACKS.
HE IS NOT AARON DONALD.
BUT HE IS A GREAT FOOTBALL
PLAYER.
THEY ARE TRYING TO BACKFILL AS
MUCH AS THEY CAN.
THEY DID NOT HAVE TO IN THE
AARON DONALD AGE.
HE COULD REALLY IMPACT OPPOSING
OFFENSES.
THE TAKE IS IN — PICK IS IN.
MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.
LOOK AT THIS.
MIKE: TYLER DAVIS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE HAS?
SOME OF THE SHORTEST ARMS IN THE
ENTIRE DRAFT CLASS.
31 INCH ARMS.
FOR A DEFENSIVE TACKLE.
A LOT OF GUYS, THAT IS OFF YOUR
BOARD.
IF IT IS UNDER 32 INCHES, WE
DON’T WANT IT.
THIS GUY HAS TINY ARMS.
BUT HE IS ATHLETIC.
300 POUNDS.
I THINK HE IS GREAT AGAINST THE
RUN.
MAYBE NEVER WILL BE A PASS
RUSHER.
HE MAY BE BETTER AGAINST THE
RUN.
LOW CENTER OF GRAVITY.
HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL.
WILL HE BE AN IMPACT PLAYER?
MAYBE NOT.
BUT THEY DRAFT A GUY WHO’S TAPED
IS LEGITIMATELY GOOD.
MICHAEL: I DO LIKE HIM.
THERE WE GO.
LOOK AT THAT.
ADDED UTA — OUT OF UGA.
MIKE: I DID NOT HAVE HIM ON MY
WATCH LIST.
MICHAEL: I HAVE SEEN THIS GUY
PLAY.
HE WAS PART OF A GREAT DEFENSIVE
LINE.
HE WAS NOT PART OF THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO REALLY WORK ON
HIM.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT HE JUST GOT
PICKED.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
MIKE: 51 SNAPS THIS PAST YEAR.
A FIFTH-YEAR GUY COMING OUT MY
BELIEVE.
WAS NEVER REALLY A FULL-TIME
STARTER FOR THEM.
MICHAEL: THE GETTING WHEN YOU
GET A PLAYER LIKE THAT, HE HAS
PLAYED ENOUGH FOOTBALL, BEEN
AROUND ENOUGH GUYS, SURE HE IS
NOT THE TOP TWO.
THAT IS FINE.
BUT HE MAY END UP BEING ONE OF
THOSE GUYS WAS BETTER IN THE NFL
THAN HE WAS IN COLLEGE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GUY WHO
PLAYED BEHIND CARTER.
IT IS OK.
IT IS NOT LIKE THEY DRAFTED SOME
GUY WHO THEY DIDN’T KNOW.
THEY DRAFTED A GUY WHO WAS IN A
HIGH-PRESSURE SITUATION AND MADE
THE MOST OF IT.
THERE WE GO.
A SAFETY.
IF NOT SEEN VERY MANY SAFETIES,
HAVE WE?
MIKE: IT HAS BEEN CORNERS.
MICHAEL: A LOT OF CORNERS.
LET ME SEE THE MEASUREMENTS ON
HIM.
THERE WE GO.
I LOVE THE WAY HE PLAYS.
IT IS LESS SPECIFICS AND MORE
THE IDEA OF WHAT THEY DO.
HE DID NOT JUMP OFF THE PAGE TO
ME WHEN I WATCHED CAL PLAY.
BUT THEY ARE WELL TAUGHT
DEFENSIVELY.
THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY NEED
TO BE AT ALL TIMES.
OBVIOUSLY HE WILL BE A SPECIAL
TEAMS GUY.
THAT IS THE NAME OF THE GAME
WITH THESE GUYS.
MIKE: GOING TO THE CHAT.
WHAT THREE TEAMS ARE DRAFTING
BOTTOM NEXT YEAR?
WHO WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE TAKE
NEXT YEAR?
A COUPLE OF RELATED QUESTIONS.
MICHAEL: THE PANTHERS WILL BE
PICKING IN THE TOP THREE.
MIKE: THAT ONE IS TOUGH.
I THINK ALSO THE PATRIOTS ARE UP
THERE IN MY OPINION.
IT JUST COULD BE DIFFICULT FOR
THEM.
THE TEAMS I AM LOOKING AT ARE
PATRIOTS, UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE
THE RAIDERS.
YOU ARE JUST REALLY BEHIND THE
EIGHT BALL.
TITANS ARE KIND OF IN THAT MIX
DEPENDING ON HOW WILL LET US
DEVELOPS.
EVERYONE THERE IS SOMETHING TO
LIKE ABOUT.
COMMANDERS COULD BE IN THAT MIX.
THEY HAVE KIRK COUSINS.
NFC NORTH, THE VIKINGS, THEIR
DEFENSES TO GOOD TO PLAY THEM
INTO THAT.
ANY OF THE TEAMS STARTING AT
ROOKIE QUARTERBACK, YOU WORRY
ABOUT BOTTOMING OUT.
ANY WE TALK ABOUT BESIDES THE
BEARS, YOU WORRY ABOUT THEM NOT
WORKING OUT.
YOU KNOW WHO IT’S PROBABLY GOING
TO BE?
SOME QB IS GOING TO GET HURT,
LIKE THE JETS.
THAT’S THE TEAM THAT’S GOING TO
END UP TOP THREE.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NOT A LOT
OF TEAMS THAT I LOOK AT ON PAPER
, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, WHERE I AM
LIKE, NO ONE IS HEADING INTO
THIS SEASON LIKE THE CARDINALS
WERE LAST YEAR.
PATRIOTS ARE PROBABLY THE ONE,
LOOK AT THAT ROSTER AND IT’S
TOUGH.
THE RAIDERS COULD HAVE A
DIFFICULT TIME.
THEY WENT 8-9 LAST YEAR, BUT
WITH WHO YOU ARE STARTING AT
QUARTERBACK COMPARED TO THE REST
OF YOUR DIVISION.
MICHAEL: SAINTS PICKED KHRISTIAN
BOYD.
MIKE: THERE WERE PROBABLY TWO
NOSE TACKLE, DAY THREE GUYS WHO
I THOUGHT, THAT GUY COULD BE A
NOSE TACKLE AT THE NFL LEVEL.
IT WAS KHRISTIAN BOYD AND
JACKSON.
I LIKED WHAT I SAW AT THE SHRINE
BOWL ONE-ON-ONE.
HE USED HIS HANDS REALLY WELL
EVEN IF HE IS NOT A HIGH-END
ATHLETE.
HE HAS A NOSE TACKLE, WHAT DO
YOU WANT HIM TO BE A HIGH-END
ATHLETE FOR?
MICHAEL: NOW WE HAVE THE
PANTHERS.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WHO COULD
BE ONE OF THE BOTTOM THREE
TEAMS.
MIKE: WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBER ONE
OVERALL PICK?
WHAT COLLEGE GUY RIGHT NOW WOULD
YOU SAY HAS THE BEST CHANCE?
YOU ALWAYS HATE THE QUARTERBACK
CLASS BUT THERE ARE GUYS IT
COULD BE.
MICHAEL: I HAVE NO CLUE.
THIS IS A WEIRD YEAR.
LAST YEAR EVERYONE WAS ALL IN ON
THE QUARTERBACKS, THEN LAST YEAR
MARVIN HARRISON JUNIOR.
THIS YEAR IT FEELS SO EMPTY,
FEELS LIKE EVERYONE IS GONE.
THEN YOU FACTOR IN THE PORTAL.
I DON’T KNOW HOW IT HAS DONE
THINGS FOR YOU BUT IT HAS MADE
THINGS A NIGHTMARE ON MY END.
MIKE: YOU HAVE TO MEMORIZE A NEW
ROSTER EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
MICHAEL: NOT EVEN EVERY YEAR,
LIKE THREE TIMES A YEAR.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT — AND THEN
BY THE WAY, USC, UCLA,
WASHINGTON, OREGON, THEY ARE IN
THE BIG TEN NOW.
MIKE: I WILL SAY THIS,
QUARTERBACK — AND I MIGHT GET
SOME FLACK FOR THIS IN THE CHAT
— I THINK SANDERS IS THE BEST
ONE.
IF I HAD TO PICK ANY OF THE
GUYS.
SUPER TALENTED, GOOD ATHLETE,
GOOD ARM.
HE WORKS HARD.
YOU SEE IT IN HIS FOOTWORK, HIS
FUNDAMENTALS.
HE HAS IMPROVED EVERY YEAR, EVEN
DATING BACK TO THE FCS.
I THINK SANDERS, GONE TO MY
HEAD.
IF IT IS NOT A QUARTERBACK —
THE QUARTERBACK CLASS PEOPLE
DON’T THINK IS AS GOOD AS THIS
YEAR, AND I AGREE IT DOESN’T
HAVE THE GUYS IT DOES THIS YEAR
—
MICHAEL: COULD WE BRING THE
TWEET BACK?
MIKE: JAMES PIERCE JUNIOR,
TENNESSEE EDGE, TOP THREE PICK.
MICHAEL: KIAN COLEMAN SAID HE
WAS AT THE WAFFLE HOUSE SO MUCH
HE HAD TO COOK’S NUMBER PINNED
IN HIS MESSAGES.
LEGEND.
MIKE: HE IS MOVING TO A WAFFLE
HOUSE LIST, NORTHEAST — WAFFLE
HOUSE-LESS, NORTHEAST BUFFALO.
I AM A FAN MYSELF.
DO YOU PARTAKE?
MICHAEL: NOT PARTICULARLY.
I COOK AT HOME EVERY DAY.
WE EAT DINNER AT HOME EVERY
SINGLE DAY.
MIKE: CAROLINA, IS THAT A
COOKOUT?
MICHAEL: WE GOT COOKHOUSE, —
COOKOUT, WE GOT WAFFLE HOUSE.
I GOT BOTH OF THEM WITHIN A
STONES THROW OF MY HOUSE.
I HAVE TO DRIVE PAST A COOKOUT
AND A WAFFLE HOUSE TO GET TO MY
KID’S SCHOOL, TO GET TO THE
POOL.
MIKE: I AM A DOUBLE PEANUT
BUTTER WAFFLE WORK GRITS BOWL.
I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WITH
THE SENIOR BALL.
I KNOW HE IS A PLUS ATHLETE.
I JUST DIDN’T THINK HE HAD ANY
ANSWERS AS A PASS RUSHER.
MICHAEL: WE TALK ABOUT THAT SO
MUCH BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A
PLAN.
TO ME SOME OF THAT IS COACHING.
SOMETIMES COACHES LET YOU WIN
WITH WHATEVER WORKS, INSTEAD OF
SAYING THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING
TO DO IT.
FOR ME I ALWAYS WONDER, CAN YOU
FIX THAT IN THE NFL?
MIKE: HE IS UNDER SUB FIVE
SECONDS IN THE 40.
456 SHORT SHUTTLE, GREAT TIME.
I DON’T THINK — FOR THAT BEING
SAID, I WAS HOPING HE WOULD BE A
GOOD PASS RUSHER.
I DON’T KNOW IF HE IS
PARTICULARLY ADT EITHER.
JUST AN ATHLETE YOU ARE HOPING
WILL BE COACHED BETTER THAN.
MICHAEL: ANOTHER CORNER.
MIKE: TOO MANY CORNERS.
TOO MANY OF THESE GUYS I HAVE
NOT WATCHED, THE LIST WAS TOO
DEEP.
LET’S SEE WHAT I HAVE GOD.
NOPE.
I FEEL BAD BUT — HANG ON, LET
ME COUNT.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, EIGHT —
MIKE: HOW MANY CORNERS HAVE
COME OFF THE BOARD HERE?
MICHAEL: I’VE GOT 35 CORNERS.
MIKE: AND WE ARE STILL MISSING.
MICHAEL: CAN WE SEE HOW MANY
CORNERS HAVE COME OFF?
DO WE HAVE THAT AS A GRAPHIC?
MIKE: OR IS IT TOO LONG?
MICHAEL: IT MIGHT BE TOO LONG.
MIKE: HERE WE GO.
WE GOT EIGHT PER GRAPHIC, SO WE
HAVE THOSE TOP EIGHT.
ONCE WE GET TO KOOL-AID, THOSE
TOP SIX.
FIVE GUYS.
I CAN’T COUNT.
I LIKE THOSE TOP FIVE.
IF THOSE TOP FIVE ARE NOT PLUS
STARTERS, ALL OF THEM, I WILL BE
SURPRISED.
NOT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE
ELITE PLAYERS.
IF I HAD TO PICK, I WOULD SAY
WIGGINS AND MITCHELL COULD GET
HIGH, GUYS WHO ARE TOP FIVE
CORNER IN THE NFL.
I THINK EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING
TO BE GOOD CORNER.
AFTER THAT WE HAD KIND OF
LASSITER, YOUR SLOT GUYS.
THEN WE HAVE THE NEXT TIER.
I HAVE RAKEDROP A LITTLE ABOVE
EVERYBODY ELSE ON MY BOARD.
EVERYONE ELSE, IT STARTED TO GET
TO THAT TO YOUR — THAT TIER OF
ALL THESE GUYS HAVE SOMETHING TO
THEM.
ALL THESE GUYS SHOULD COME OFF
THE BOARD IN THE TOP 150.
WHERE, THOUGH?
YOU SECAM HEART FALLING 140.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAD HIM TOP
80.
WHAT YOU WANT AT CORNER.
TRAVIS BROWNLEE, PEOPLE HAD HIM
IN THE TOP.
I LIKE THAT RANGE BECAUSE YOU
DID NOT HAVE TO GIVE UP TOO MUCH
DRAFT CAPITAL.
I THINK A LOT OF THOSE GUYS HAD
STARTER POTENTIAL.
THAT’S THE KIND OF CORNER CLOSET
WAS.
MICHAEL: GEORGIA STATE OFFENSIVE
LINEMAN TRAVIS GLOVER IN THE
SIXTH ROUND, ANOTHER GUY WHO
STARTED A TON OF GAMES, 57.
MIKE: I DID NOT GET THE TRAVIS
GLOVER TAPE UNFORTUNATELY.
MICHAEL: LET’S TALK ABOUT IT.
57 IS A LOT OF GAMES.
YOU START IN 57 GAMES.
6’6", 317, YOU ARE NOT ASKING
HIM TO BE A STARTER NOW.
YOU ARE ASKING HIM TO SHOW YOU
WHAT HE CAN DO FOR THE GREEN BAY
PACKERS, BUILT DEPTH, AND YOU
FIGURE OUT IS THIS GUY A PLAYER
OR NOT.
MIKE: HE STARTED AS A FRESHMAN
IN 2019, RIGHT TACKLE.
SOPHOMORE, LEFT TACKLE.
JUNIOR, LEFT TACKLE.
SENIOR, RIGHT TACKLE AND LEFT
GUARD.
SUPER SENIOR, LEFT TACKLE.
HE HAS PLAYED ALL OF THEM.
MICHAEL: VERSATILE, A LOT OF
ABILITY, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE
INTERESTING.
MIKE: LET’S SEE SOME CHAT STUFF.
COOKOUT OVER WAFFLE HOUSE.
TO ME THEY ARE TOO DIFFERENT.
ONE IS FAST FOOD, ONE IS A
DINER.
THEY HIT DIFFERENT NEEDS IN YOUR
LIFE.
BIG BOY SAYS, WHY IS BEAUX
LIMMER STILL AVAILABLE?
GOOD QUESTION, I WOULD HAVE
TAKEN HIM WAY EARLIER THAN THIS.
WHICH TEAMS WILL BE LOOKING FOR
LONG-TERM ANSWER AT QB NEXT
YEAR?
DEFINITELY THE RAIDERS, I THINK
THE GIANTS.
AS MUCH AS I DON’T WANT TO ADMIT
IT, I THINK THE SAINTS NEXT
YEAR.
IT IS THE TIMELINE THEY NEED TO
LOOK AT QUARTERBACK, EVEN IF
THEY DRAFTED SPENCER RATTLER
THIS YEAR.
MICHAEL: THERE IS YOUR GUY, YOU
SAID IT.
MIKE: WILL RIKER, THE TOP KICKER
ON MY BOARD.
MICHAEL: GIVE ME THE SCOUTING
REPORT ON HIM.
MIKE: I DON’T HAVE IT DIRECTLY
IN FRONT OF ME.
HE HAS A BIG LEG, HE WAS
ACCURATE, PLAYED IN A LOT OF
PRESSURE PACKED GAMES.
COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR ANYONE IS
PRESSURE PACKED, I DON’T CARE
WHERE YOU ARE KICKING AT.
HE PLAYED IN FACT STADIUMS — IN
PACKED STADIUMS.
THIS PAST SEASON, HAS NOT MISSED
AN EXTRA POINT SINCE 2021.
PAST TWO YEARS, 22 OF 25, 22 OF
26.
ONLY ONE MIST FROM BELOW 40 THE
PAST TWO SEASONS.
THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT.
DUDE IS GOOD.
FOR THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS, YOU
ARE A DOME TEAM, BUT YOU PLAY
OUTSIDE TWO GAMES A YEAR IN
POSSIBLY BAD WEATHER, GREEN BAY
AND CHICAGO.
MICHAEL: 100% CORRECT.
MIKE: WORTH A SHOT.
WE ARE IN THE SIXTH ROUND, MAN.
HERE IS THEIR DRAFT, JJ AT 10,
DALLAS TURNER AT 17.
THAT IS WHAT THEY DID.
THEY GAVE UP SOME PIX TO GO UP
AND MAKE THAT PLAY.
AND THEY COVETED THOSE GUYS
HIGHLY.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS GOING TO HINGE
— DALLAS TURNER COULD BE ALL
APPROPRIATE JACKSON COULD BE A
QUALITY STARTER, WALTER ROUSE
COULD BE A FANTASTIC SWING
TACKLE, WILL REICHARD COULD BE
THE BEST SWING TACKLE.
THEY HAD TO DO IT.
EVERYONE FOR YEARS WAS SAYING
KIRK IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO TAKE
US THERE.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE PAYING
HIM $50 MILLION.
AFTER KIRK’S FIRST YEAR, THE
WORST THING HAPPENED, HE TORE
HIS ACHILLES.
IF THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN, KIRK
MIGHT BE A VIKING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT FORCED THEIR HAND,
DO THEY WANT TO GIVE $100
MILLION TO A GUY COMING OFF A
TORN ACHILLES?
THEY GO JJ MCCARTHY IN A STRONG
QB CLASS.
YOU CAN LOVE HIM AS MUCH AS
ANYONE BASED OFF HIS TAPE.
YOU DID NOT SEE ENOUGH TO KNOW
EITHER WAY.
MICHAEL: THAT’S THE THING FOR
ME, WE DID NOT SEE ENOUGH TO
KNOW.
WHEN I TALKED TO MICHIGAN FANS
ABOUT JJ MCCARTHY, MOST OF THEM
SWEAR UP AND DOWN HE IS THE BEES
KNEES.
LOOK AT WHAT HE DID.
UNDER 3000 PASSING YARDS.
I KNOW IT’S CLOSE.
WHAT IS THAT, THROUGH 15 GAMES?
MIKE: YEAH, THAT’S A LOT OF
GAMES.
HIS LAST SEVEN GAMES, HE THREW
FOR OVER 150 YARDS ONCE.
MICHAEL: IT IS INTERESTING TO
SEE HOW PEOPLE MOVE THE GOAL
POST TO CHANGE THE ARGUMENT.
PEOPLE LIKE TO CHERRY PICK.
THEY CHERRY PICK THE 72%
COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE
27-1 AS A STARTER.
THEY DON’T BRING UP THAT HE
THREW ONLY 22 TOUCHDOWNS IN
2023.
THAT’S NOT EVEN ON THE RADAR OF
THE OTHER GUYS.
MIKE: THERE WAS TRULY ONE TIME
IN HIS CAREER THAT MICHIGAN SAID
YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND CLAUSE
BACK FROM A WHOLE OR WHEN IS A
GAME, IT WAS THE TCU SEMIFINAL.
THERE WERE SOME GOOD THINGS BUT
HE ALSO THREW A PICK SIX THAT
ICED THE GAME.
HE PUT IT RIGHT INTO A
LINEBACKER’S CHEST AND THAT
THING WENT BACK TO THE HOUSE.
THAT’S THE ONE TIME WHERE HE HAD
TO EVERY SINGLE PLAY.
IT WAS I GOT TO PASS, GOT TO
PASS, AND THEY THREW A PICK SIX.
THAT WAS HIS RECORD FRESHMAN
YEAR.
HE IS A WILD CARD AND HE IS
TALENTED, BUT THAT IS YOUR DRAFT
RIGHT THERE.
GRABLE, UCF.
MICHAEL: WE GOT THE TEXANS ON
THE CLOCK NOW.
SOMEONE SAID THE TEXANS HAVE HAD
MONSTER DRAFT.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT?
MIKE: YES, OBJECTIVELY.
THE COLTS, THEIR FIRST TWO PICKS
WERE AS GOOD AS ANYONE’S FIRST
TWO PICKS, AND THEY WERE VALUE,
WHERE THEY GOT THEM.
TEXANS, THEY DRAFTED JORDAN,
YOUR GUY.
MICHAEL: WHEN HE IS HEALTHY —
LOOK AT THAT RUN, A LITTLE
POWER.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CATCH HIM.
I LIKE HIM.
JORDAN, LET ME SEE WHAT WE GOT
HERE.
COME ON, COMPUTER.
THERE WE GO.
I LOVE THAT GT RUN THEY JUST
SHOWED.
PUTS HIS SHOULDER INTO THE GUY
AND OUT RUNS EVERYONE FOR A 74
YARD TOUCHDOWN.
HE IS NOT A BIG GUY BUT HE WILL
SEEK CONTACT.
THAT’S IMPORTANT.
HE IS NOT AFRAID OF CONTACT, BUT
THE KEY FOR HIM IS HE CAN RUN.
I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU SAY.
4, 5, 6 GUY?
THIS IS 4, 5, 6?
MIKE: HE AIN’T 193 POUNDS.
THAT IS A 180 POUND WIDE.
DOES NOT HAVE A RUNNING BACK
BODY.
BUT HE IS NOT A 4, 5, 6.
MICHAEL: YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING
ME THAT IS A 4, 5, 6.
THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
FOOTBALL SPEED AND WHAT HE
SHOWED UP AT THE COMBINE AS.
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE INTO WIDE
RECEIVER, GO AHEAD, PUT HIM IN
THE SAME BEEN WITH SHIPLEY.
MIKE: THE TEXANS DRAFT, TO TALK
ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD
JORDAN COME OFF THE BOARD, I
LOVE THEIR FIRST FOUR PICKS.
TO NOT HAVE A FIRST ROUNDER AND
COME AWAY WITH LASSITER,
STARTING SLOT CORNER.
BLAKE FISHER, SUPERHIGH UPSIDE
RIGHT TACKLE, TRANSITION PLAN
HERE.
IF THEY DON’T PLAN ON RE-SIGNING
HOWARD.
BLECH, A TRUE SAFETY — BULLOCK,
A TRUE SAFETY.
STOVER, A GOOD NUMBER TWO WHO
CAN BE YOUR STARTER IF AND WHEN
SCHULTZ DOES MOVE ON.
THOSE FOUR FIX, VALUE, FIT,
TALENT, GOOD, SOLID A DRAFT.
MICHAEL: I ASKED YOU WHEN WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER
RUNNING BACK, DO YOU LIKE HIM
MORE?
I LIKE THIS DIANE THEY GOT HIM.
THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER
WEAPON, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE
TO GIVE C.J. STROUD.
GIVE HIM PROTECTION, GIVE HIM
WEAPONS.
MIKE: BROWNS ON THE CLOCK.
THEY HAD A TON OF PICKS.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT HIM UNTIL WE
ARE BLUE IN THE FACE.
IF DESHAUN WATSON PLAYS THE WAY
HE DOES A YEAR AGO, THEY ARE
SCREWED.
THEY ARE NOT WINNING.
YOU TAKE OUT THE QUARTERBACK
POSITION AROUND THE NFL AND LOOK
ROSTER BY ROSTER AT HOW GOOD
EACH ONE IS.
I PUT THE ROUNDS AGAINST ANYONE
IN THE NFL.
THAT IS AN ELITE ROSTER.
WATSON IS PRETTY ATHLETIC, MORE
OF A SPECIAL TEAMER AT THIS
POINT.
46, THREE 40 GUYS, THEY LIKE
THOSE UNDERSIZED ATHLETIC
LINEBACKERS.
AN ATHLETIC DT IN MICHAEL HALL
THAT CAN MAKE AN IMPACT YOUR ONE
WHEN THEY DON’T HAVE A TON OF
HOLES.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR DESHAUN
WATSON THIS YEAR.
AMARI COOPER, DAVID BELL, CEDRIC
TILLMAN.
MICHAEL: THEY GIVE UP A LOT TO
HAVE HIM BE PART OF THAT
FOOTBALL TEAM, IN MORE THAN ONE
WAY.
HE HAS TO PRODUCE.
MIKE: HE STUNK, FLAT OUT BAD,
WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE.
MICHAEL: NOBODY SAW THAT COMING.
MIKE: THEY GAVE UP WHAT THEY
GIVE UP FOR A BONA FIDE
QUARTERBACK DURING THE NFL LAST
YEAR.
FLAT GO WIPED THE FLOOR WITH
HIM.
THERE IS A REASON THE TEAM
TURNED IT ON WITH FLACOS.
I AM CURIOUS TO SEE BECAUSE
THERE WAS A VASTLY DIFFERENT
OFFENSE THEY WERE RUNNING THERE
FROM WHAT THEY RAN IN HOUSTON.
ARE THEY GOING TO SWITCH IT UP?
IS KEVIN GOING TO CHANGES
STRIPES?
IS IT GOING TO BE NOT THE
STRETCH ZONE RUNNING GAME PLAY
ACTION AND LET DESHAUN SHOTGUN
SNAP AFTER SNAP?
I AM VERY CURIOUS TO SEE HOW
THINGS CHANGE THERE.
MICHAEL: I THINK THE SEAHAWKS
PICK IS IN.
MIKE JARRELL, A TACKLE FROM THIN
BLADE.
MIKE: I EXPECTED THERE TO BE
SOME OFF THE MAP.
I SAID IT YESTERDAY, AND IT WAS
A GREAT SALE ON MY PART — WHEN
A GUY GETS TO 200 ON MY BOARD, I
AM LIKE JUST THROW SOME NAMES
ON.
THAT WAS 150 FOR ME THIS YEAR.
THAT IS FOUR ROUNDS OF THE
DRAFT.
WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE YOU
DRAFT A TACKLE FROM FINDLAY.
MICHAEL: BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE
ANY OF THE OTHER TACKLES.
MIKE: DON’T LOOK IT UP, WHERE IS
FINDLAY?
MICHAEL: I’M GOING TO GUESS
KANSAS.
WHERE IS FINDLAY?
MIKE: THE CITY OF FINDLAY IS IN
OHIO.
I DON’T EVEN KNOW, IS IT
UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY?
MICHAEL: I ASSUME SO.
DO THEY HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM?
MIKE: UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY,
ONE SEC.
IT IS IN FINDLAY, OHIO.
IS IT AN FCS PROGRAM?
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
THIS IS REALLY BAD CONTENT.
UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY IN OHIO.
DON’T HAVE MUCH MORE FOR YOU.
MICHAEL: WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT
THE RAIDERS?
MIKE: DYLAN LAUBE, HERE IS A GUY
WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
MICHAEL: THOUGHTS ON DYLAN FROM
NEW HAMPSHIRE, GREAT SMALL
SCHOOL PROSPECT.
MIKE: THE BEST CATCHING BACK IN
HIS CLASS, GREAT HANDS, GOOD
ROUTE RUNNER.
HE IS A REAL SMALL FRAME.
5’10", 206, HE BROKE THE
SINGLE-GAME RECEIVING RECORD
THIS YEAR FOR RUNNING BACK, 290
RECEIVING YARDS AGAINST CENTRAL
MICHIGAN.
HE WILL GO DOWN WHEN SOMEONE
BREEDS ON HIM BUT I THINK HE CAN
PLAY IN THE SPACE AND BE THAT
THIRD DOWN BACK.
THE RAIDERS TEAM THAT HAS ZAMIR
WHITE.
MICHAEL: I FORGOT ABOUT ZEUS.
MIKE: THIS RUNNING BACK ROOM IS
KIND OF TOUGH.
ALEXANDER MATTISON, AMEER
ABDULLAH, AND DYLAN LAUBE.
MICHAEL: YOU LIKE HIM MORE THAN
SHERIDAN?
MIKE: JUST DIFFERENT BACKS.
HE IS A PASS CATCHER.
MICHAEL: WOULD YOU MOVE HIM?
MIKE: NO, BECAUSE HE HAS SUCH
SMALL ARMS.
HE HAS TO TAKE SWINGS AND STUFF.
THE CATCH RATE IS TINY FOR THAT
GUY.
MICHAEL: I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE
IT.
I HAVE GOT TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM.
MIKE: GO AHEAD, I CAN CARRY THIS
FOR A LITTLE.
ANOTHER PIC IS IN.
THE KICKER RUN HAS BEGUN, JOSHUA
KARTY, THE STANFORD KICKER.
LET ME PULL UP THE NUMBERS ON
JOSHUA KARTY BECAUSE THESE WERE
MY TOP TWO KICKERS ON MY BOARD.
A LITTLE BIT OF A REACH ON MY
BOARD, ONLY FOUR MRS. THIS PAST
SEASON.
ONLY ONE MISS FROM UNDER 40 IN
HIS CAREER BUT ONLY A THREE YEAR
PLAYER THERE.
HE GOES 72 ON 73 FOR EXTRA
POINTS IN HIS CAREER, 51-60 IN
FIELD GOALS.
PLAYING IN SOME CUSHY WEATHER ON
THE WEST COAST.
THE NFC NORTH, IT IS A NEW ERA
OF KICKERS WITH WILL REICHARD
AND THE VIKINGS.
JOSHUA KARTY, NOT JUST A NEW ERA
OF QUARTERBACKS, WE HAVE A NEW
ERA OF KICKERS AS WELL.
DETROIT LIONS, I LOVE THEIR
DRAFT.
AS A PACKERS FAN, I AM UPSET
WITH THE WAY THE REST OF THE NFC
NORTH HAS DRAFTED AT THIS POINT.
MAYBE NOT UPSET ABOUT WHERE THE
VIKINGS GOT A QUARTERBACK, BUT I
AM UPSET THEY GOT TURNER ALL THE
WAY DOWN AT 17.
THE CHICAGO BEARS, EVERYONE
KNOWS WHAT THEY DID, BUT I LIKE
THE PROJECTS THEY TOOK AT TACKLE
AND EDGE.
THE LIONS, BUSINESS AS USUAL,
JUST DROP GOOD PLAYERS.
RAKESTRAW, THEY HAVE REALLY
HAMMERED IT HOME, TWO GUYS WHO
WILL COMPETE FOR THE OUTSIDE
CORNER SPOT WHO HAVE SOME
VERSATILITY.
ARNOLD PLAYED SOME SLOT THIS
PAST YEAR AT ALABAMA.
NFC NORTH, MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR.
I THINK 2025 PEOPLE COULD BE
LOOKING AT THE BEST DIVISION IN
FOOTBALL.
IT IS ON THE COME UP.
AND THEY JUST DRAFTED CHRISTIAN
MAHOGANY, THE BOSTON COLLEGE
GUARD.
DETROIT LIONS.
2021 FIRST YEAR STARTER, AWESOME
TAPE.
2022, HE COULD BE A TOP 50 GUARD
WRIT TEARS HIS ACL IN THE
OFF-SEASON.
CAME BACK THIS YEAR AND I DIDN’T
THINK HE MADE THAT LEAP I WAS
EXPECTING BUT HE WAS STILL
PRETTY DARN GOOD.
LOOKS A LITTLE AWKWARD.
NOT THE FLUID ATHLETE YOU MIGHT
EXPECT.
HIS STANCE LOOKS A LITTLE
LABORED BUT HE TESTED WELL.
HE USED HIS HANDS EXCEPTIONALLY
WELL.
THAT’S WHY HE GETS RANKED WHERE
HE DOES ON THE BOARD.
LOOK AT THAT PHYSICALITY.
BIG FAN OF HIS GAME.
I NEVER PLUG ANY SIXTH ROUND
OFFENSIVE LINEMAN INTO STARTING,
BUT THIS GUY COULD START OVER
GRAHAM GLASGOW AT LEFT GUARD.
I LOVE THIS DETROIT LIONS DRAFT.
THIS IS RIGHT UP THERE.
I THINK STEELERS, COLTS, LIONS,
BEARS, THOSE ARE THE ONES I AM
— IF YOU ARE A FAN OF ONE OF
THOSE TEAMS, YOU HAVE TO BE
HAPPY AS HECK.
THERE IS A NO SKIP SORT OF FEEL.
I CAN’T SPEAK TO GIOVANNI MANU,
MAYBE I WILL GET SOME OF THAT
BRITISH COLUMBIA TAPE CODE SHOW,
BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THE REST OF
THE GUYS AND I HAVE BEEN FAR
HIGHER ON MY BOARD.
EVERY ONE OF THE REST OF THE
GUYS WAS TOP 105.
WINGO WAS OUTSIDE MY TOP 100,
BUT JUST OUTSIDE.
HADDEN COMES OFF THE BOARD, AND
FOR THE CHIEFS IN PARTICULAR I
THOUGHT HE WAS A GOOD PRESS
CORNER.
AGGRESSIVE AT THE LINE OF
SCRIMMAGE, MAYBE OVERAGGRESSIVE.
THE CHIEFS WANT THE GUY WHO IS
GOING TO — WITH STEVE SPAGNOLO
‘S DEFENSE, HE WANTS CORNERS
THAT ARE GOING TO TOW THE LINE
OF THROW THE DEFENSIVE HOLDING.
YOU SAW SIX PICKS THIS PAST
SEASON.
THERE WERE SOME LUCKY PICKS.
I WOULD NOT CALL HIM A
PLAYMAKER, BUT JUST A PUNCH
RIGHT TO THE JAW.
THEY HAVE SOME GUYS ON THE
ROSTER RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN
THAT MOLD, JAYLEN WATSON.
THAT’S THEIR TYPE.
AS MICHAEL FELL THEIR WALKS BACK
INTO THE STUDIO KAMAL HADDEN —
STUDIO.
KAMAL HADDEN FITS THE YOUTH
THOSE OF MY EXPECT MELLOW.
— OF SPAGNOLO.
MICHAEL: I LOVE HIM.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A SIXTH
ROUND COMPENSATORY PICK BUT IT’S
A GOOD PICK.
HE IS GOING TO HELP OUT SPECIAL
TEAMS BUT HE IS SOMEONE IF YOU
COACH THEM UP, HE HAS SOME OF
THOSE TRAITS.
I LIKE REITERATING ALL THE TIME
WHEN WE DO THIS, WHEN WE SAY AT
THE TOP OF THE SHOW, THERE ARE
THREE THINGS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
AND THREE YOU ARE GOING TO GET.
THE THREE YOU LOOK FOR OUR SUPER
ATHLETIC TRAITS, GUYS YOU THINK
CAN WORK.
ANOTHER PIC IS IN.
MIKE: THE KICKER RUN CONTINUES,
AS WE HAVE CAM LITTLE COME OFF
THE BOARD.
LET’S READ OFF HIS STATS FOR YOU
GUYS.
YOU MISSED JOSHUA KARTY, THE
ARKANSAS KICKER — STANFORD
KICKER, FOR THE LIENS.
MICHAEL: RIGHT WHEN I WAS
LEAVING I SAW THAT.
MIKE: LITTLE IS THE ARKANSAS
KICKER.
OVER HIS CAREER, 129-129 AN
EXTRA POINTS, 53-64 ON FIELD
GOALS.
SOLID THIS PAST SEASON, ONLY ONE
MISS ON 12 ATTEMPTS FROM UNDER
40 YARDS.
GOES 9-12 ON OVER 40 YARDS.
A LOT ALIKE LIKE.
6’2", 179, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS.
THEY GET THERE KICKER OF THE
FUTURE.
EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR THE
KICKER OF THE FUTURE IN THE
SIXTH ROUND AND JAGUARS STEEL
THEIRS.
MICHAEL: WHO DO THEY HAVE
KICKING THERE NOW?
MIKE: YOU WANT TO SEE SOME OF
THESE PICKS?
ALL THE TICKERS THAT CAME OFF
THE BOARD?
SOME PLAYERS I LIKE, CHRISTIAN
MAHOGANY FOR THE DETROIT LIONS.
MICHAEL: HE CAME OFF THE BOARD?
MIKE: WE ADDED KARTY TO THE
WRONG TEAM, HE WENT TO THE RAMS.
I WENT ON A DIATRIBE ABOUT HIM
GOING TO THE LIONS.
THAT IS YOUR RAMS SCOUTING.
MAHOGANY TO THE LIONS, AWESOME
PICK.
BACK A LITTLE BIT, WILL REICHARD
TO THE VIKINGS.
DYLAN LAUBE TO THE RAIDERS.
I KIND OF LIKE KAMAL HADDEN FOR
THE CHIEFS.
THEY HAVE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH
LATER AROUND CORNERS.
I THINK I’M ALL HADDEN FITS THAT
TYPE.
THOSE ARE YOUR PAST FEW PICKS.
MICHAEL: I AM CAUGHT UP, AND I
FEEL WAY BETTER.
MIKE: IF THAT WAS ROUND ONE, I
WOULD RATHER PEE MY PANTS THEN
LEAVE THE SET.
THANKFULLY WE HELD STRONG.
MICHAEL: I JUST COULDN’T DO IT.
MIKE: I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE IT
UNTIL THE END OF ROUND SEVEN,
TRUST ME.
MICHAEL: I LOOKED AT HOW MUCH
WAS LEFT AND THOUGHT, IT’S
BETTER THAT I DO IT NOW THEN
WAIT.
MIKE: WHO IS YOUR PICK TO WIN
THE AFC NORTH?
EVERY YEAR I PICK THE BENGALS,
YOU KNOW I DO.
I GO TO THIS GOLF EVENT WHERE
THEY HAVE A BENGALS HELMET AND I
WEAR THE HELMET AND TWEETS THAT
THEY WILL WIN THE AFC NORTH.
BUT THIS YEAR — THEY ARE RIGHT
IN THE MIX.
I THINK I AM GOING TO GO
BALTIMORE RAVENS.
THEY WERE SO GOOD LAST YEAR AND
THEY POOPED THE BED SO HARD IN
THE PLAYOFFS.
MICHAEL: WE STILL DON’T KNOW
WHAT THIS STEELERS SITUATION IS
GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
MIKE: I AM NOT PICKING THE
STEELERS, LET’S BE REAL, NOT
WITH RUSSELL WILSON.
I LIKE WHERE THEY ARE HEADED BUT
NOT THIS YEAR.
THE RAVENS LOST A FEW PIECES,
BUT NOT ENOUGH.
THEY ALWAYS REPLENISH.
THEY HAVE DRAFTED REALLY WELL OF
LATE.
LAMAR JACKSON, DERRICK HENRY.
DERRICK HENRY IS TIMELESS.
ONE OF THE WORST LINES LAST YEAR
AND STILL PUTTING UP NUMBERS.
I GOT TO GO WITH THEM.
MARK ANDREWS BACK HEALTHY FOR
THE WHOLE YEAR THIS YEAR, THAT
WILL BE IMPACTFUL.
THEY ARE SUCH A COMPLETE TEAM.
IT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT THIS
DEFENSE IS GOING TO TAKE A
MASSIVE STEP BACK.
THEY WERE TOP TWO IN THE NFL
LAST YEAR.
TOP FIVE IS GOING TO CHANGE
THINGS?
PICKING ANYONE OF THOSE TEAMS IS
TOUGH.
I WILL GO RAVENS.
BEAUX LIMMER, I WOULD LOVE THAT.
THAT WOULD PUT A NICE BOW ON
THEIR DRAFT BECAUSE I THINK HE
FITS ATHLETICALLY.
COWBOYS GOT THE BEST KICKER IN
THE LEAGUE OFF THE STREET, HARD
TO DISAGREE.
BAILEY ASKED, WHY IS KAELIN KING
STILL ON THE BOARD?
YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE,
BECAUSE I HAVE TAKES.
MICHAEL: I WANT TO HEAR YOURS.
MIKE: BECAUSE HE WAS TRASH THIS
YEAR.
AT THE SENIOR BOWL HE HAD THE
WORST PERFORMANCE I HAVE SEEN.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, I
THINK A CONFIDENCE ISSUE,
BECAUSE HE WAS NOT LOCKED IN.
2022, HE WAS LOCKED IN.
HE WAS AGGRESSIVE, GREAT AT THE
LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, THIS YEAR AT
THE COMBINE HE RUNS A 4.61.
MICHAEL: TO ME IT WAS THE
COMBINE NUMBERS, ONE.
TWO, I THINK HE SUFFERED FROM
TRYING TO BE THE GUY.
THAT’S ANOTHER PART THAT’S
INTERESTING.
IT’S NOT EASY TO DO.
LOOK AT THAT.
SPEAKING OF THE DEVIL.
MIKE: DID HE COME OFF THE BOARD?
I THINK THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTS.
MICHAEL: OH, I THOUGHT HE CAME
OFF THE BOARD.
HE DID SOME THINGS WELL BUT I
THINK HE STRUGGLED WITH HIS
FOOTWORK.
THERE WAS A PANIC.
MIKE: I THINK IT WAS A
CONFIDENCE ISSUE.
HE WAS SCARED.
YOU CAN’T PLAY CORNERS SCARED.
YOU CAN’T PLAY CORNER NOT
THINKING THAT EVERY SINGLE REP
YOU ARE GOING TO DOMINATE THE
GUY ACROSS FROM YOU.
ONE FALSE STEP.
YOU CAN PLAY A PERFECT GAME,
EVERYONE WILL REMEMBER THE ONE
BAD PLAY TURNED INTO A
HALF-DOZEN BAD PLAYS FOR HIM
MOST GAMES BECAUSE THEY WOULD
COMPOUND.
THAT SO I FELT ABOUT HIM THIS
YEAR.
WYATT SAYS EVERYONE IS DOING
WELL EXCEPT THE FALCONS FANS.
I WILL SAY THIS.
I FELT SIMILARLY ABOUT THE
PACKERS 2020 DRAFT WHEN THEY
WENT JORDAN LOVE, AJ DILLON, AND
WHO WAS THE THIRD ROUND TIGHT
END OUT OF CINCINNATI?
JOSIAH.
I WAS LIKE, THIS DRAFT STUMP.
WOULD I GO BACK AND TRADE
HIGGINS FOR JORDAN LOVE?
DEBATABLE.
THEY MAY HAVE WON A SUPER BOWL
WITH TEE HIGGINS.
I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE MYSELF.
YOU DID NOT MAXIMIZE A WINDOW.
BUT AM I HAPPY THEY HAVE JORDAN
LOVE NOW?
YES.
THAT’S HOW FALCONS FANS COULD
FEEL ABOUT THIS IN THREE YEARS.
YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE IN THE
DRIVERS SEAT TO TAKE OVER THE
NFC NORTH, GET TO A SUPER BOWL.
IT IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
ONE DALLAS TURNER.
THAT COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A FEW PLAYOFF WINS FOR
THEM.
NOW YOU ARE LIKE, MAN, HOW DID
THEY BEAT THE EAGLES-COWBOYS
NOW?
I DON’T THINK THEY DO.
IN FOUR YEARS, MIGHT BE SINGING
A DIFFERENT TUNE.
JORDAN WHITTINGTON.
HE KIND OF FELL OUT OF FAVOR
BECAUSE TEXAS LOADED UP ON WIDE
RECEIVERS.
MICHAEL: HE WASN’T GETTING THE
TOUCHES.
HE WAS KIND OF THE GUY.
MIKE: BEFORE THE INITIAL
TRANSFER, BEFORE — WHO WAS IT,
THE YOUNG GUY THERE, BROWN
MAYBE?
THE YOUNG GUY IS GOING TO BE A
TOP PROSPECT IN A FEW YEARS.
ONLY 42 CATCHES, 505 YARDS, BUT
A STRONG POSSESSIONS LOT WIDE,
GOOD AFTER THE CATCH.
THAT’S THE KIND OF RECEIVER YOU
ARE GETTING AT THIS POINT.
OLDER END BUT PLAYED GOOD
FOOTBALL.
MICHAEL: THAT’S THE THING, HE IS
OLDER — I KEEP LISTENING TO YOU
ABOUT THAT NOW.
MIKE: AGE?
MICHAEL: YEAH.
50 CATCHES TWO YEARS AGO AND
THIS YEAR HE GOES DOWN TO 42.
EVEN THOUGH THEY THROW IT MORE.
WORTHY WENT OVER 1000 OBVIOUSLY,
MITCHELL GOES OVER 800.
HE DIDN’T GET AS MANY TARGETS.
HE HAD 42 CATCHES.
HE IS A WIDE-BODY GUY.
MIKE: THICKLY BUILT WIDE
RECEIVER, STARTING BACK IN 2020
BUT INJURED HIS MENISCUS.
2022 LOOKS LIKE HE WAS ON HIS
WAY TO BECOMING THE GUY IN THE
OFFENSE, BUT THEN MITCHELL
TRANSFERS, HE TAKES A BACK SEAT,
ISN’T STARTING MUCH GAMES THIS
YEAR.
SPECIAL TEAMS BE A TEAM ARE SORT
OF GUY, PHYSICAL.
SOME OTHER CHAT QUESTIONS.
DO YOU LIKE FABIAN LOVE AT DT
FROM FSU?
I DO, I’M SURPRISED HE HAS NOT
GONE OFF THE BOARD.
WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF DTS COME
OFF THE BOARD.
JOHNSON, ANOTHER PLUS ATHLETE.
GUYS WHO HAVE ATHLETICISM, HE IS
ANOTHER THICK.
260, GOT A LITTLE HAVE TO TO
HIM, MORE THICKLY BUILT THAN A
LOT OF GUYS.
MICHAEL: THICK ANKLES AND WRISTS
BUT HE CAN BRING POWER.
HE HAS GOT — HE CAN GET HANDS
OFF OF HIM.
LOVE THE FACT HE IS ABLE TO
ROTATE AND STILL MAKE A PLAY.
THIS IS ONE WHERE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT TECHNIQUE, POSITIONAL FIT.
HE IS IN THE 200 60’S.
WHAT ARE WE DOING?
ARE WE LETTING HIM PLAY THE FIVE
TECHNIQUE?
IT IS POSITIONAL FIT, BUT IT’S
ALSO ABOUT LEARNING WHAT YOU ARE
SUPPOSED TO DO IN TERMS OF
FOOTBALL.
MIKE: I THINK THE BENGALS WILL
LIKE THAT HE CAN PLAY IN A FEW
DIFFERENT SPOTS.
A PRETTY SOLID ATHLETE THAT
COULD LINE UP, IF NECESSARY.
ONLY 21 YEARS OLD.
HE CAME OUT EARLY — OR NOT
EARLY, HE HAD ANOTHER YEAR OF
ELIGIBILITY BUT DECIDED NOT TO.
HERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING ONE,
JARRETT KINGSTON, A GUY HE WAS
OUT OF POSITION AT TACKLE THIS
YEAR.
A BIG PORTION OF THEIR
STRUGGLES.
HE WAS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE,
BUT IT’S BECAUSE HE WAS A GUARD
OR CENTER IN YOUR OFFENSE.
FOR THE 49ERS, I THINK HE ENDS
UP PLAYING CENTER.
I LIKE WHEN HE WAS AT WASHINGTON
STATE IN THE YEARS PRIOR.
WE SAW HIM AT LEFT GUARD IN
2021.
I THINK HE CAN BE A PLUS PASSER
THAT CAN PLAY IN THAT SCHEME.
KYLE SHANAHAN HIMSELF, I HAVE
BEEN SAYING THE SHORT SHUTTLE
TIMES, KYLE SHANAHAN MENTIONED
AFTER THE DRAFT LAST NIGHT
MENTIONED HIS SHORT SHUTTLE
TIME.
KINGSTON WAS A HIGH SHORT
SHUTTLE TIME GUY, 4.47, SO
THAT’S LIKE HE GOES AT THIS
POINT TO THAT TEAM.
RYAN FLOURNOY.
HAVE YOU WATCHED ANY TAPE?
I HAVE.
HE WAS A HIGH-END TESTER.
4.44, 39.5 INCH VERTICAL, 11
FOOT BROAD JUMP.
I COULD NOT FIND THOSE NUMBERS
ON TAPE.
AS A ROUTE RUNNER, REALLY TIMID
AND UNWILLING.
HE COULD NOT RUN ROUTES AT FULL
STEVE.
HE COULD RUN WITH THE BALL IN
HIS HANDS AT FULL SPEED AND
BROKE A LOT OF TACKLES.
I LIKED THAT ABOUT HIM.
REALLY SHORTHANDED, 3.2% DROP
RATE OVER THE PAST TWO SEASONS.
SOME ATHLETIC TRAITS.
MICHAEL: THERE IS YOUR BEAUX
LIMMER, DID SOMEBODY ASK ABOUT
HIM?
MIKE: YEP, TO THE RAMS.
MICHAEL: HE PLAYED FOR AN
OFFENSIVE LINE COACH.
THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
REALLY LIKE.
HE PLAYED CENTER THERE, CAN PLAY
CENTER, CAN PLAY GUARD.
THIS IS SOMEONE YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HE IS ABLE TO DO, HE CAN MOVE
BODIES, CAN SHIELD, DO BOTH OF
THE THINGS YOU WANT YOUR CENTER
TO DO.
MIKE: HAD A 36.5 INCH VERTICAL,
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE COMBINE
RECORD FOR OFFENSIVE LINEMAN.
AT 6’5", I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
SOME DUNK VIDEOS.
HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME
WINDMILLS.
HE COULD DO NICE STUFF AS A 300
POUNDER.
HE DID 39 BENCHPRESS REPS.
32 INCH ARMS, KIND OF SHORT, NOT
A — NOT IDEAL LENGTH.
BUT IT IS CORE STRENGTH WITH
HIM.
HE IS A THIN FRAME, 6’5", 300
POUNDS.
THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN 6’2", 300
POUNDS.
THAT GUY NEEDS TO PUT ON 15
POUNDS OF MUSCLE BEFORE I AM
STARTING HIM IN THE NFL.
THAT’S WHY HE IS STARTING HERE.
HE WILL GET EXPOSED.
MICHAEL: BUT HE CAN CARRY MORE
WEIGHT.
MIKE: YEAH.
LEARY IS THE NEXT QB OFF THE
BOARD.
MICHAEL: I AM A LEARY FAN.
I LIKED HIM COMING OUT OF HIGH
SCHOOL.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HE HAD IN
HIGH SCHOOL WAS TOUCH.
HE THREW EVERYTHING LIKE IT WAS
A FASTBALL.
MIKE: HE LIKES TO SHOW IT OFF.
MICHAEL: YOU THREW EVERYTHING
LIKE A FASTBALL, THEN GETS TO NC
STATE AND IS TRYING TO MAKE
PLAYS.
HE ENDS UP AT KENTUCKY.
THERE WERE FLASHES.
I AM SURPRISED HE FELL THIS FAR
BUT YOU WERE NOT GOING TO PICK
HIM BEFORE MILTON.
I GUESS THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT
FOR HIM AS WE LOOK AT THE
BACKEND END OF THE SIXTH ROUND.
HE IS SOMEONE I HAVE ENJOYED
WATCHING.
HE HAS SOME FOCUS TO HIM.
HE IS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY’S
BACK UP OBVIOUSLY BUT I THINK HE
HAS THE TOOLS TO PLAY.
MIKE: HIS 2021 TAPE, 300 YARDS,
FIVE TOUCHDOWNS.
OK, HE TAKES THE NEXT STEP, WE
COULD BE TALKING.
HIS MILES PER HOUR AT THE
COMBINE WAS TOP THREE OF ANYONE.
HE KIND OF TOOK A STEP BACK,
STARTED THROWING A LITTLE TOO
AGGRESSIVE, THROWING SOME BAD
RECEPTIONS THAT YOU CAN’T HAVE.
THE ACCURACY NEVER DEVELOPED.
A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG RELEASE,
JUST OVER SIX FOOT TALL.
FOR RAVENS, I DON’T KNOW.
MICHAEL: HERE IS MY PROBLEM.
IT’S NOT THAT HE GOT PICKED
HERE.
I LIKE WHEN TEAMS MAKE LIFE
EASIER FOR EVERYONE.
MIKE: STYLISTICALLY MATCHING
YOUR BACKUP.
MICHAEL: SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO
CHANGE YOUR ENTIRE OFFENSE.
KNOCK ON WOOD, BUT LAMAR JACKSON
FALLS OFF THE STAIRS ON A
WEDNESDAY AND YOU HAVE A GAME ON
SUNDAY —
MIKE: OR HE HAS TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF A
GAME.
MICHAEL: LIKE ME.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
I AM THINKING MORE SOMETHING
HAPPENS ON A WEDNESDAY, AND THEN
WHAT?
WE HAVE TO FIGURE EVERYTHING
ELSE OUT ON BASICALLY
THURSDAY-FRIDAY?
THAT’S A THING I DON’T
UNDERSTAND.
MIKE: WHO WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN?
TRAVIS, MILTON, OR FINN, THAT’S
IT.
MICHAEL: I JUST DON’T LIKE IT.
IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU
HAVE THIS MISHMASH OF PAIRINGS.
I LIKE WHAT THESE DEALERS DID,
THAT MADE SENSE.
MIKE: LET’S GIVE AN F OUT.
THERE WE GO, FIRST ONE OF THE
DRAFT.
NO, WE ARE JUST MESSING AROUND.
DEVIN LEARY IS DRAFT DOUBLE,
JUST — DRAFTABLE, JUST A LITTLE
BIT OF AN ODD FIT.
TWO MORE PICKS IN THE SIXTH
ROUND, THEN WE WILL SEE HOW LONG
MY BLADDER CAN LAST.
MICHAEL: TWO MORE PICKS HERE.
MIKE: BILLS AND BUCCS.
I KIND OF LIKE WHAT THE BILLS
HAVE DONE TO HODGEPODGE THINGS
TOGETHER.
THEY DIDN’T DRAFT UNTIL THE
BACKEND OF THE FIRST ROUND.
THEY KIND OF NEEDED A LOT.
IT HAS GOTTEN DEPLETED.
LOST YOUR SAFETIES, YOUR NUMBER
ONE WIDE RECEIVER.
YOU LOST YOUR DEPTH ON THE
OFFENSIVE LINE, YOUR DEPTH ALONG
THE DEFENSIVE LINE.
THERE WERE NEEDS THAT HAD TO BE
ADDRESSED.
THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF
PLAYING THE DRAFT.
I WOULD HAVE TRADED WITH THE
CHIEFS TO GIVE THEM XAVIER
WORTHY, BUT I DO LIKE THEY GOT
KEY ON COLEMAN.
HE IS A RELIABLE HIGH FLOOR
DUDE.
BUFFALO BILLS, NOT A TOP-FIVE
DRAFT BY ANY MEANS, BUT THIS ONE
IS AN ABOVE AVERAGE DRAFT.
MICHAEL: A PENN STATE GUY.
MIKE: THIS IS A RETURNER.
I DON’T THINK HE WAS EVEN A
STARTING CORNER FOR THEM LAST
YEAR.
HE IS YOUR RETURN GUIDE.
MICHAEL: WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH
THE NEW KICKOFF RULE, YOU ARE
GOING TO SEE MORE RETURNS.
GET A SPECIAL TEAMS RETURN GUY,
SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP YOU OUT
THERE.
MIKE: HE WAS A SLOB, NOT EVEN
NECESSARILY STARTER, JUST OVER
— A SLOT, NOT NECESSARILY
STARTER, JUST OVER 200 SNAPS.
MICHAEL: THIS IS THE SECOND ONE
WE ARE SEEING.
THIS IS GOING TO PLAY MORE LIKE
A PUNT, THE NEW KICKOFF, BOTH
WITH THE DIRECTIONAL KICKING AND
WITH THAT MAN ON BLOCKING THAT
YOU SEE WITH PUNT RETURN.
I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED TO SEE
TEAMS TRY TO DRAW UP RETURNS.
MIKE: YOU KNOW WHAT I AM WORRIED
ABOUT?
THAT IT WILL END UP BEING A
NIGHTMARE.
THE DEFENSE HAS THREE GUYS BREAK
THROUGH THE LINE AND THEN YOU
STOP RETURNING KICKS ALTOGETHER.
WHEN THAT’S THE CASE, YOU WILL
SEE A MORE STRATEGIC —
MICHAEL: I AM WORRIED ABOUT IT
THE OTHER WAY.
THAT’S WHY I SAID I WOULDN’T BE
SURPRISED TO SEE SOME TEAMS TRY
TO PUT TOGETHER A WALL RETURN OR
PUT TOGETHER THIS MIDDLE BLAST.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO NOW IS THIS.
MIKE: YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK?
IN THE XXL A LOT OF TIMES — THE
XFL A LOT OF TIMES, THE OFFENSE
WOULD GO FORWARD.
I THINK YOU WANT THE DEFENSE TO
RETREAT FIRST.
THE OFFENSIVE GUYS, YOU WANT TO
GIVE THEM SPACE TO MAKE A CREASE
SOMEWHERE.
ENGAGING RIGHT AWAY GIVES TOO
MUCH TIME FOR THOSE GUYS TO
DEFEAT THOSE BLOCKS.
I THINK YOU GOT TO RETREAT FIRST
AND THEN PULL UP SOME.
WE WILL BE SEEING IT IN REAL
TIME, SOMEONE WILL COME UP WITH
SOMETHING NICE, SOME OTHER TEAM
WILL BE COPYING IT.
I DO THINK YOU ARE SEEING TEAMS
MORE SO THAN MAYBE EVER DRAFTING
RETURNERS.
MICHAEL: WHAT DO WE GOT?
MIKE: ELIJAH KLEIN, KIND OF A
SLEEPER.
I KIND OF LIKE THIS GUY AS A
LATE ROUNDER.
MICHAEL: JUST OVER 300 POUNDS.
THIS GUY PLAYED A LOT OF
FOOTBALL.
LET’S GO TO A RECAP BECAUSE WE
GOT ONE MORE ROUND.
MIKE: HE PLAYED A TON.
3686 CAREER SNAPS.
OLD AS CAN BE, I THINK 24.
HE ONLY ALLOWED THREE PRESSURES.
I DON’T THINK HE WAS INVITED —
HE WASN’T A SENIOR BOWL INVITE,
I DON’T THINK HE WAS A SHRINE
BOWL INVITE, BUT HE WAS A
SLEEPER.
THE BUCCS ALREADY GOT A GUARD
EARLIER AND THIS GIVES THEM MORE
DEPTH.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE WALTER ROUSE,
OFFENSIVE LINEMAN.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE?
TWO IN THE FIRST WAVE OF THE
SIXTH ROUND.
DARIUS FROM UCLA, A GUY I REALLY
LIKE.
JOHNNY WILSON, A GUY YOU REALLY
LIKE.
MCCLELLAN, BUT HE HAS TO STAY
HEALTHY.
WINGO, WE LIKED HIM BETTER THAN
JORDAN JEFFERSON.
CHRISTIAN BOYD, A GUY WE LIKE
THEM A SMALLER SCHOOL IN
NORTHERN IOWA.
JOE MILTON THE THIRD.
TYLER DAVIS FROM CLEMSON, A
PLAYER I LIKE.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR FIRST PICK
OF THE SEVENTH COMING UP.
MICAH ABRAM — ABRAHAM.
JOE R JORDAN, WHO I REALLY LIKE.
THEN WE HAVE THE KICKERS, WILL
REICHARD.
SHOW ME MORE KICKERS.
MIKE: 37 PICKS.
MICHAEL: I AM COUNTING TOO.
MIKE: JARRETT KINGSTON, ANXIOUS
TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
MAHOGANY AND WINGO.
THEY ARE YOUR SIXTH ROUND
WINNERS.
IF YOU ARE GETTING A WINNER FROM
THE SIXTH ROUND, DETROIT LIONS.
TWO TOP 110 PLAYERS ON MY BOARD.
MICHAEL:FXL SAYS, SAM HARTMAN
GETTING DRAFTED?
MIKE: I DO WONDER IF YOU WILL
SEE A ROUND OF QUARTERBACKS
GOING AS MR. IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE
THE ONLY ONE TO EVER WORK OUT
WAS BROCK PURDY, JUST TO
MOTIVATE THAT GUY.
MICHAEL: WE WENT THROUGH OUR
WINNERS.
YOU JUST MENTIONED WILSON, WINGO
, THOSE HAVE TO BE WINNERS.
YOU SAID THAT ALREADY.
FOR ME, GOOD GRIEF.
MIKE: I GOT A PLAYER COMP FROM
THE CHAT.
DUDE LOOKS LIKE THE DUDE FROM
SUPERNATURAL.
JENSEN ACKLES.
THAT’S MY PLAYER COMP I GET A
FEW TIMES.
MICHAEL: I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE
SHOW.
MIKE: I NEVER HAVE ACTUALLY
MYSELF EITHER.
MICHAEL: JAWHAR JORDAN IS A
WINNER FOR ME.
KHRISTIAN BOYD, A GUY WE REALLY
LIKE.
I LIKE TYLER DAVIS.
THERE ARE SOME HEAD SCRATCHER,
NEARLY ALL KICKERS, I’M JUST
GOING TO SAY THAT.
MIKE: HERE WE GO.
HENDERSON SAID, WHO IS THE STEAL
OF THE DRAFT SO FAR?
I’M GOING TO GO AROUND BY ROUND
AND GIVE YOU THE BIGGEST STEEL
OF THE DRAFT.
IF MY WIFE I WILL COOPERATE.
MICHAEL: MINE IS ACTING CRAZY
TOO.
MIKE: FIRST ROUND, OBVIOUSLY
THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD PICKS,
BUT TO QUALIFY FOR A STEEL, IT
HAS TO BE DOWN.
I HAD MURPHY AT SEVEN, HE GOES
16, BUT I THINK A STEEL HAS TO
BE EVEN LATER THAN THAT.
I THINK I WILL GO QUINYON
MITCHELL.
HE WAS 15TH ON MY BOARD, GOES
22ND.
ONE OF THOSE TWO.
THOSE ARE YOUR BIGGEST STEELS
FROM ROUND ONE.
BIGGEST STEAL FROM ROUND TWO,
MITCHELL.
I HAD HIM 14TH, HE GOES 52ND,
REALLY TOUGH TO BEAT THAT WHEN
YOU ARE THE COLTS AND YOU GET
TWO TOP 15 PLAYERS.
LET’S GO TO ROUND THREE, IF I
CAN FIND THE PIX THAT WERE MADE.
OH, I THINK I KNOW OFF THE TOP
OF MY HEAD.
PEYTON WILSON, RIGHT AT THE BACK
OF ROUND THREE FOR THE STEELERS.
I HAD HIM IN THE 40’S ON MY
DRAFT BOARD.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXCELLENT
VALUE.
ROUND 4 — WHY IS THIS SO
DIFFICULT TO LOAD?
MICHAEL: YEAH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BILLS
RIGHT NOW.
MIKE: ROUND FOUR, WE HAD — I
LIKE BAKER AT 110 FOR THE PATS.
HE WAS A TOP 60 PLAYER ON MY
BOARD, THEY GET HIM AT 110.
ANYONE ELSE JUMPING OUT AT ME?
OH, HE WENT ROUND FIVE.
I KNOW WHO ROUND FIVE DAYS.
I THINK BAKER IS YOUR BIGGEST
STEAL OF ROUND FOUR.
ROUND FIVE IS AUSTIN BOOKER.
IF I AM TALKING STEAL OF THE
DRAFT, AUSTIN BOOKER.
STARTING QUALITY EDGE, EVEN IF
HE IS A YEAR OR TWO AWAY, IN THE
FIFTH ROUND.
THAT IS MY STEAL OF THE DRAFT.
MICHAEL: DO YOU HAVE THIS ONE?
MIKE: I DON’T KNOW FOR SURE IF
HE IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PLAYER.
THERE MIGHT BE OTHER REASONS HE
FELL.
ROUND SIX IS MAHOGANY TO THE
LIONS.
A LOT OF STEELS TO THE NFC
NORTH.
HERE WE GO.
INTERNATIONAL PATHWAY PROGRAM,
LOVE THAT.
IS THIS THE FIRST ONE OTHER —
EVER?
NO, JEREMY LOTTO.
MICHAEL: EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT
THE INTERNATIONAL PATHWAY
PROGRAM IS.
MIKE: BASICALLY THE NFL OUTREACH
TO GET GUYS WHO ARE BIG ATHLETES
IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT DON’T
HAVE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.
THEY MIGHT HAVE SEMI PRO, BUT
SEMI PRO IN OTHER COUNTRIES IS
GLORIFIED REC FOOTBALL.
THEY PUT PADS ON.
MY FORMER COWORKER AT PFF USED
TO PLAY IN IRELAND.
IT’S USUALLY YOUNGER GUYS.
LET’S SEE HOW YOUNG THIS GUY IS.
COMING FROM ENGLAND, 6’7", CAN
MOVE.
SEE IF THE BEAST HAS SOME
NUMBERS ON THIS GUY.
HE RAN A 4.81 APPARENTLY AT
6’7", 301, 35 INCH ARMS.
YEAH, TAKE THAT CHANCE HERE.
HE IS DEFINITELY PLAYING RUGBY.
MY FIRST THOUGHT IS, WHAT IS
THIS GUY DOING?
WHY CAN THIS GUY DO 19 BENCH
PRESS REPS AT 6’7", 301?
PROBABLY RUGBY.
IT’S NOT LIKE HE IS PLAYING
CRICKET, THROWING BOMBS AT 6’7".
THE MORE THE GAME EXPANDS, I
DON’T THINK THAT WILL BE
UNCOMMON.
MICHAEL: NOTRE DAME’S JOHN
BAPTISTE.
MIKE: HE WAS A DPR FOR OHIO
STATE FOR A FEW YEARS,
DESIGNATED PASS RUSHER.
I THOUGHT HE WAS MORE OF A
COMPLETE GUIDE.
HE TOOK A STEP FORWARD HIS
DEVELOPMENT.
I AM SURPRISED HE LASTED THIS
LONG.
HE IS A LITTLE UNDERSIZED, 239,
BUT ALMOST 34 INCH ARMS, 4.66,
10.7 BROAD JUMP.
I THOUGHT HE HELD UP BETTER
AGAINST THE RUN TO WHERE AT 239,
MAYBE HE CAN PLAY MORE THAN JUST
THIRD DOWNS LIKE HE DID AT OHIO
STATE.
NOT A BAD PLAYER, ALSO GOING TO
BE 24 IN A FEW DAYS, SO OLDER.
IF YOU HAVEN’T DEVELOPED BY THIS
AGE, THAT’S WHEN YOU WORRY ABOUT
IF A GUY IS EVER GOING TO FIGURE
IT OUT.
HE CAN PLAY IN THE LEAGUE
THOUGH, HE CAN BE A ROTATIONAL
PIECE.
HE CAN BE YOUR SECOND BACKUP
DEFENSIVE END.
MICHAEL: IS THAT SEVEN GUYS FROM
NOTRE DAME SO FAR?
MIKE: YOU BOYS ARE TALENTED THIS
YEAR.
I WAS AT THE OHIO STATE GAME
WHERE THEY LAST
SECOND PLAY.
THAT WAS A GOOD SQUAD.
THEY DID NOT HAVE RECEIVING
TALENT THE WAY OHIO STATE DID,
THE WAY A LOT OF TEAMS WHO MADE
IT TO THE PLAYOFFS DID.
LOOK AT HOW MANY RECEIVERS COME
OFF THOSE TEAMS, TEXAS, TWO GUYS
IN THE TOP TWO ROUNDS,
WASHINGTON, THREE GUYS IN THE
TOP THREE ROUNDS.
MICHIGAN, A WIDE RECEIVER
ALREADY DRAFTED.
YOU MIGHT SEE CORNELIUS JOHNSON
COME OFF THE BOARD BEFORE IT IS
ALL DONE.
MICHAEL: WHAT IS WASHINGTON AT?
NOTRE DAME IS AT SEVEN.
MIKE: WHO HAS THE MOST SOFAR?
IS IT WASHINGTON?
MICHIGAN HAD 15 COMBINE INVITES,
THE MOST COMBINE INVITES, BUT I
HAD A LOT OF GUYS WHO I WAS LIKE
EH, YOU MIGHT GET DRAFTED.
MICHAEL: WASHINGTON HAS GOT
NINE.
MIKE: THAT HAS TO BE THE MOST.
MICHAEL: WASHINGTON HAS NINE,
LET ME JUST CHECK MICHIGAN.
MIKE: GEORGIA HAS HAD A GOOD
AMOUNT BUT NOT NINE.
MICHAEL: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
9.
MICHIGAN IS AT NINE.
MIKE: TEXAS IS UP THERE, TWO DB,
A LINEBACKER, TWO WIDE
RECEIVERS, OFFENSIVE LINEMAN,
TWO RUNNING BACKS.
TEXAS MIGHT BE IN THAT MIX,
MIGHT HAVE NINE AS WELL.
MICHAEL: YOU MASTER MY COUNTING!
— YOU MESSED UP MY COUNTING!
MIKE: SORRY.
MICHAEL: THEY GOT 11, TEXAS.
MIKE: THAT IS A SQUAD.
THAT WAS A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM.
THE WORST PLAYER IN THE FOOTBALL
TEAM — NOT THE WORST, BUT THE
HOUSEHOLD NAME IRONICALLY WAS
THE REASON THAT TEAM DID NOT WIN
THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
THAT TEAM WAS LOADED.
THEY DIDN’T MISS A BEAT WHEN
QUINN WENT OUT.
PEOPLE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT THAT
ENOUGH.
MICHAEL: LOOKS LIKE TEXAS IS
RIGHT NOW OUT IN FRONT.
TEXAS HAS 11, WASHINGTON HAS
NINE, NOTRE DAME HAS SEVEN.
MIKE: SAM HARTMAN GETTING
DRAFTED, I WOULD GUESS NO.
HIS ARM IS I THINK BELOW THE NFL
THRESHOLD.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HIM A LOT, BUT
NO.
MIKE: DAY THREE GUY MOST LIKELY
TO MAKE A PRO BOWL.
I HAD AUSTIN BOOKERI THOUGHT ITD
PRO BOWL POTENTIAL.
I WOULDN’T PUT IT PAST — JAELON
RIGHT COULD EASILY MAKE A PRO
BOWL.
YOU SEE RICKY MOST ARE WALK INTO
THE PRO BOWL JAELON RIGHT COULD
VERY WELL, IF HE JUST GETS AN
OPPORTUNITY, HE COULD BE A PRO
BOWL PLAYER AS WELL.
I WILL SAY THOSE TWO GUYS.
ALSO WILL REICHARD, BAMA KICKER.
MICHAEL: THAT FEELS LIKE AN EASY
ANSWER TOO.
MIKE: TORREY, PUNTER.
WHY AM I BLANKING ON WHERE HE
WENT?
CHICAGO.
TREY TAYLOR, AIR FORCE SAFETY.
DID WE DISCUSS THAT?
MICHAEL: THE KID IS A
BALLPLAYER.
WHAT IS THE AIR FORCE POLICY?
MIKE: I THINK IT IS THE SAME AS
ARMY-NAVY.
TRUMP CHANGED SOMETHING WHERE I
DON’T THINK THEY NEED THE WAIVER
ANYMORE, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT
THEY GET AN AUTO DEFERMENT.
THAT GOT CHANGED IN SOME WAY.
MICHAEL: A GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER,
RUNS AROUND THE BACKEND.
YOU CAN’T BE A CHICKEN, YOU HAVE
TO STICK YOUR NOSE IN THERE.
I LOVE THE WAY HE OPERATES.
HE IS PROBABLY BETTER COMING
DOWN THEN MOVING BACKWARDS.
EITHER WAY I THINK HE CAN PLAY
HALF FIELD SAFETY.
THAT’S MY READ ON IT.
MIKE: YEAH, TRUMP HAD AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER SAYING IN 2019
THAT THEY CAN IF THEY WANT.
AUTO DEFERMENT.
THEY USED TO HAVE TO PETITION
AND SOME GUYS DIDN’T GET IT,
WHICH WAS WILD TO ME.
IT SEEMS LIKE EASY ADVERTISING
IF YOU ARE A SERVICE ACADEMY AND
THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, LET
THOSE GUYS PLAY AND EVERYONE IS
GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ALEJANDRA
OH AND THE NUEVA?
DUDE WAS IN THE ARMY.
TREY TAYLOR, AIR FORCE.
THERE HE IS.
MICHAEL: ANGRY PLAYER.
MIKE: AT SAFETY ESPECIALLY IN
THE NFL, SIZE MATTERS.
SOME POSITIONS YOU CAN GET AWAY
WITH THE 225 GUYS, BUT IN THE
NFL, THOSE GUYS GOT TO TACKLE.
NOW MORE THAN EVER, BECAUSE THEY
ARE THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE IN
A LOT OF TEAMS.
IF THEY MISS A PLAY, THOSE RUNS
GO FOR LONG YARDS.
IT IS A TACKLING POSITION AND A
TACKLING POSITION CANNOT GET BY
WITH 180 FIVE POUNDERS LIKE YOU
CAN IN COLLEGE.
210, THAT STUFF MATTERS.
MICHAEL: TREY TAYLOR, WE LIKE
IT.
MIKE: WE GOT A LITTLE RUN HERE.
THE BENGALS, DAIJAHN ANTHONY,
SLOT SAFETY FROM OLE MISS.
A GUY WHO I THINK TRANSFERRED
FROM LIBERTY.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A REALLY GOOD
TACKLER AS WELL.
I DON’T THINK HE IS A REAL COVER
GUY.
AND THEN CHARGERS, BRENDEN RICE
COMES OFF THE CLOCK.
SON OF JERRY RICE, WHO I WAS NOT
HIGH ON.
SOME GUYS WERE, TOP 100 ON A LOT
OF BOARDS.
I THOUGHT HE WAS — HE LOOKS THE
PART.
HE HAS JERRY RICE’S DNA.
THE BODY TYPE, HE IS BUILT.
200 62, 208, NOT A LOT OF FAT ON
THIS DUDE.
BUT I THOUGHT HE RAN ROUTES
HERKY-JERKY, AND THEY GOT A GUY
ALREADY IN QWYNTON JOHNSON THAT
STRUGGLES WITH THAT.
KIND OF THE ANTI-LAD MAKATI, HE
CAN GET LOW, SINK, DIP.
HE HAS A VERTICAL GUY, 17.6
YARDS PER CATCH.
ONLY RAN A 45 BUT HE IS A LITTLE
FASTER THAN THAT.
MICHAEL: GOOD FOR HIM.
HE NEVER JUMPED OFF THE PAGE TO
ME.
JUST WATCHING USC PLAY, NOT THE
WAY THAT MARVIN HARRISON JUNIOR
OR EVEN SMITH, THE WAY THEY
JUMPED OFF THE PAGE TO ME WAS
VERY DIFFERENT THAN THIS GUY.
HE WAS A GOOD USC WIDE BUT NEVER
REALLY JUMPED OFF THE PAGE.
NOT THE WAY JORDAN ADDISON DID A
YEAR AGO.
MIKE: SOMEONE ASKED, HOW IS
LEONARD TAYLOR STILL UNDRAFTED?
I ASSUME THE NAME WAS CENSORED
HERE.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NAME
WAS.
LEONARD TAYLOR, THAT ONE OF
ANYONE — BECAUSE AGAIN, GUYS
USUALLY DON’T DECLARE EARLY IN
TODAY’S LANDSCAPE, WHERE YOU
DON’T HAVE TO GO TO CLASS.
IT USED TO BE SOME GUYS DECLARED
EARLY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT
ACADEMICALLY ELIGIBLE AND THEY
WERE LIKE, I HAVE TO GO — THIS
IS NOT ABOUT LEONARD TAYLOR
WHATSOEVER, BUT IN GENERAL, YOU
DECLARE EARLY IF YOU GET THE
GRADE BACK THAT YOU GET FROM THE
ADVISORY BOARD.
TO GO IN THE SEVENTH ROUND,
SOMEONE — I CAN’T FATHOM HE GOT
A DAY TWO ADVISORY ROUND GRADE.
THEY GIVE YOU A DAY 1, 2, OR
THREE.
I CAN’T IMAGINE HE IS HERE
GETTING A DAY TWO.
I DIDN’T HAVE DAY TWO, I HAD DAY
THREE.
HE IS A TWO YEAR STARTER COMING
OUT.
HE HAS MULTIPLE YEARS OF
ELIGIBILITY, I BELIEVE, WHO PUTS
A GOOD TAPE IN THE PAST.
HIS REDSHIRT FRESHMAN TAPE WAS
PRETTY NASTY.
I WAS HYPED ABOUT THIS GUY.
HE PLAYS VIOLENTLY.
BUT HE WAS AT NOSE TACKLE THIS
YEAR, I THINK HE GAINED WEIGHT
TO PLAY.
NOT NEARLY AS IMPRESSIVE.
BUT HE TESTED IN A REALM WHERE
HE COULD STILL BE A PLAYER AT
THE NEXT LEVEL.
HE DOESN’T HAVE SPECIAL TEAMS
VERSATILITY AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF
CORNERS, LINEBACKERS COME OFF
THE BOARD.
I WOULD TAKE THE CHANCE.
I GOT NOTHING FOR YOU.
MICHAEL: THE THING FOR ME I
THINK ABOUT IS, WHAT ARE WE NOT
KNOWING?
MIKE: THAT’S DEFINITELY
SOMETHING.
THERE IS SOMETHING BESIDES
ON-FIELD TALENT.
HE IS NOT FALLING HERE BECAUSE
OF HIS TALENT.
MICHAEL: THE CARDINALS ARE ON
THE CLOCK.
WE KNOW THEY PICKED MARVIN
HARRISON JUNIOR.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE
COMBO WITH HIM AND TYLER?
MIKE: IT’S WHAT THE DOCTOR
ORDERED.
I HAD MALIK NABERS AHEAD OF HIM,
BUT FOR THE CARDINALS
SPECIFICALLY I SAID DRAFT MARVIN
HARRISON JUNIOR.
I WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIM ABOVE
MALIK NABERS.
THEY NEEDED THE OUTSIDE GUY IN
THAT OFFENSE.
WHEN THEY HAD DEANDRE HOPKINS,
2021 FIRST 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR
BEFORE HOPKINS GETS HURT, BEFORE
THEY LOST TO THE PACKERS ON
THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL.
HOPKINS GOT HURT THAT YEAR.
TYLER WAS THE M.V.P. FAVORITE
HEADING INTO THAT GAME.
THAT WAS HOW GOOD HE WAS
PLAYING.
HE HAS THAT GUY WHO IS NFL READY
, WHO AND MY OPINION SHOULD BE
THE FAVORITE FOR ROOKIE OF THE
YEAR BECAUSE THERE IS A CLEAR
PATH TO HIM GETTING TARGETS IN
THAT OFFENSE.
150 TARGETS OUT THE GATE.
MICHAEL: TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE
QUESTIONING TYLER’S RETURN.
THERE WERE REPORTS ABOUT FILM
WATCHING.
GETTING SOMEBODY LIKE MARVIN
HARRISON JUNIOR, YOU KNOW HE IS
GOING TO BE STUDIED.
THEY WILL STUDY TOGETHER.
THAT IS THE PART THAT IS REALLY
GOING TO HELP.
JADEN DAVIS, QUARTERBACK OUT OF
MIAMI.
MIKE: OHIO STATE, CORNER AND
WIDE RECEIVER SPECIFICALLY.
THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE
POSITIONS, SECOND TO NONE ON THE
HOLE IN THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL
LANDSCAPE.
C.J. STROUD IS A DIFFERENT CAT.
THERE ARE WIDE RECEIVERS —
THERE WIDE RECEIVERS, PASS
RUSHERS, AND CORNERS COME IN
NFL READY.
HARRISON IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL OF
THAT BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ONLY
COACHED BY BRIAN HARTLINE, ONE
OF THE BEST WIDE RECEIVERS
COACHES IN THE NFL, HE WAS
COACHED BY ONE OF THE BEST
RECEIVERS IN THE WORLD IN HIS
FATHER MARVIN HARRISON.
SPECIAL THINGS FOR HIM.
IF HE IS NOT ROOKIE OF THE YEAR,
IT’S BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WENT
OFF.
SOMEONE ELSE WENT ABSOLUTELY
OFF, AND I WOULDN’T PUT IT PAST
SOME PEOPLE IN THE DRAFT.
I DO THINK MALIK NABERS WENT TO
A POSITION WHERE HE CAN GET A
LOT OF TARGETS FROM JONES IN
THAT OFFENSE.
AND BRIAN GRABLE, IF HE IS
SMART, HE IS GOING TO SCHEME UP
A LOT OF STUFF TO GET THE BALL
IN HIS HANDS.
MICHAEL: LET’S SEE WHAT WE GOT,
THE BROWNS.
SOUTH DAKOTA DEFENSIVE BACK
MILES HARDEN.
ANOTHER DEFENSIVE BACK COMING
OFF THE BOARD.
THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IS HE
IS FEARLESS.
THAT’S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT HIM,
THE WAY HE PLAYS FOOTBALL IS
FEARLESS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH KALE
KING.
THIS GUY SCREAMS CONFIDENCE TO
ME.
HE IS NOT AFRAID TO GET BEAT AND
WHEN HE DOES GET BEAT, HE
BOUNCES BACK.
THAT’S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AS A
CORNER.
HE WANTS TO MAKE A TACKLE.
DOESN’T STOP HIM FROM GETTING
THE FIRST DOWN BUT HE DOES WANT
TO MAKE A TACKLE.
HOPPING ON THE BALL AS SOON AS
IT COMES OUT.
I LIKE THIS PLAYER.
MIKE: I THINK THIS IS A SPECIAL
TEAMS PICK.
I THINK HE IS PROBABLY A SLOT AT
THE NEXT LEVEL, AND COULD BE A
GOOD ONE.
HE PLAYED OUTSIDE PRIMARILY AT
SOUTH DAKOTA.
SHORT ARMS, UNDER 30 INCHES.
WHY THEY ARE DRAFTING HIM, THEY
HAVE A BEVY OF CORNERS AND HE
CAN IMPACT SPECIAL TEAMS.
MICHAEL: LET’S PUT THE GRAPHIC
UP, BECAUSE — SORRY, I HAVE TO
MOVE AROUND.
LOOK AT THIS.
WE DON’T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL
THE NAMES.
MIKE: EIGHT CORNERS.
THAT’S 16.
MICHAEL: 24.
MIKE: OH, MAN.
29 CORNERS OFF THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: 29 CORNERS OFF THE
BOARD.
MIKE: ONE OUT OF EVERY NINE AND
A HALF TEXT HAS BEEN A CORNER —
NINE AND A HALF PICKS HAS BEEN A
CORNER.
MICHAEL: IT’S A DEEP CORNER
DRAFT.
WE ARE STILL GOING TO SEE MORE
GUYS.
GLOVER IS STILL ON THERE.
SOMEONE IS PROBABLY GOING TO
DRAFT KAELIN KING.
THIS IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WHERE ARE WE AT NOW?
MIKE: 228, BALTIMORE RAVENS.
MICHAEL: OH, THEY PASSED US.
DEVON SHIRE GOES NEXT TO THE
RAIDERS.
MIKE: SHOOT, NFL NETWORK IS
CRUISING NOW.
I TRIED TO HOLD OUT, I DON’T
THINK I’M GOING TO MAKE IT.
I THINK YOUR BOY IS GOING TO
HAVE TO —
MICHAEL: GO DO YOUR THING.
WE GOT MICHIGAN STATE CENTER
NICK SAMAC.
I WATCHED A LOT OF THIS GUY
BECAUSE MY WIFE WENT TO MICHIGAN
STATE.
HE IS A GOOD PLAYER, I DON’T
THINK HE HAS THE TOP LEVEL,
WHICH IS WHY HE IS GETTING
DRAFTED HERE.
I THINK HE IS SOMEBODY THAT CAN
PROVIDE SOME RELIEF.
WHAT
WHO IS THE NEXT PICK?
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG DAY.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING ON — AT NOW
IS THE RAIDERS ARE ON THE CLOCK.
THERE PICK IS IN.
LET’S SEE WHO WE’VE GOT.
LOOK AT THIS.
LOOK AT THIS.
THAT IS MJ DEVON SHIRE.
A PITTSBURGH CORNERBACK.
30 CORNERBACKS HAVE BEEN PICKED
IN THIS DRAFT.
THERE IS SOME RETURN TO HIM
BUT THEIR OTHER RETURN MEN
HAVE BEEN PICKED.
HE WORKS REALLY WELL.
HE CAN PLAY CORNERS, HE CAN PLAY
THREE.
HE IS AN OFF GUY.
THE BIG THING FOR ME WITH HIM,
YOU SEE HIM IN PRESS.
HE CAN DO IT BUT DO YOU SEE HOW
HE CAN GET HANDSY?
I LIKE HIM IN OFF AND ROAMING
THE FIELD.
HE CAN PLAY PRESS.
HE CAN FLY AROUND AND TAKE
THINGS AWAY LIKE HE DID JUST
THERE.
MJ DEVON SHIRE.
A SPECIAL TEAMS PICK HE
ULTIMATELY WILL BE DOING A LOT
OF SPECIAL TEAMS WORK FOR YOU.
HE WILL BE OUT THERE MAKING SURE
HE GETS THINGS DONE.
BUT HAVE THE RAIDERS DONE SO FAR
IN THIS DRAFT?
LET ME PULL THAT UP.
ADD DEVONSHIRE.
THE RAIDERS ADD BROCK BOWERS.
NO ONE IS GOING TO BE UPSET
ABOUT ADDING BROCK BOWERS.
JACKSON POWERS-JOHNSON, ANOTHER
GOOD ONE.
DELMAR GLAZE, HE WILL HELP THEM
OUT.
TOMMY EICHENBERG.
I WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN GET
OUT OF HIM AND DYLAN LAUBE, TREY
TAYLOR.
THE VIKINGS ARE ON THE CLOCK AND
WE ARE AT PICK 230. 27 PICKS TO
GO IN THIS DRAFT.
FOLKS, IT HAS BEEN FUN.
IT REALLY HAS BEEN.
MY COHOST HAD TO GO AND I
ALREADY HAD TO GO.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT ISAIAH
WILLIAMS.
TO ME HE WAS INCREDIBLY
EXPLOSIVE.
WHEN HE GOT TO ILLINOIS, I LIVED
IN CHICAGO AND THEY WERE SUPER
EXCITED ABOUT WHAT HE COULD
BRING TO THE TABLE.
THERE WERE FLASHES BUT THERE WAS
NOT A TON OF CONSISTENCY BUT TO
BE FAIR, THEY DON’T HAVE A TON
OF CONSISTENCY AT THE CORNERBACK
SPOT.
HE CAN BE SPECIAL AT THE NEXT
LEVEL AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
SEEING WHAT HE CAN DO.
I’M LOOKING AT THE RAIDERS BIG
BOARD.
THERE ARE SOME GUYS ON THERE
THAT WE LIKE.
WE’VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
LEONARD TAYLOR.
GABRIEL MURPHY IS INTERESTING.
AND J — JAELON COKER IS A WIDE
RECEIVER THAT SOMEONE MIGHT
LIKE.
I REALLY LIKE GLOVER AS A
CORNER.
HE IS A CORNER KID OUT OF
ARKANSAS.
BELL OUT OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
TREY KNOX FROM ARKANSAS IS
ANOTHER TIGHT END WHO I THOUGHT
MIGHT GET PICKED.
HERE WE GO, THE PICK IS IN.
MICHAEL JURGENS FROM WAKE.
THE CENTER FROM WAKE FOREST.
NOT THE BIGGEST GUY THAT I THINK
HE IS SOMEONE — WE ARE SEEING
CENTERS COME OFF THE BOARD AS
GUYS THAT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
MAKE A ROSTER AND FIND A WAY TO
CREATE SPACE.
THERE HE IS.
THERE IS MY GUY SIT DOWN, MIKE.
MICHAEL JURGENS, A WAKE FOREST
CENTER.
MIKE: IS HE CAM JURGENS BROTHER?
I KNOW HE IS AN ATHLETE.
MICHAEL: DEVONSHIRE —
MIKE: I LIKE THIS TAKE.
HE IS VERY COORDINATED.
I THINK HE IS VERY SOUND.
OBJECTIVELY NOT AN ATHLETE.
THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING WITH
HIM.
HE STRUGGLED TO MOVE HE GRADED
OUT REALLY WELL AT ONE OF THE
HIGHER GRADES AT THAT POSITION.
THE SKILL DEVELOPMENT WAS THERE
BECAUSE HE IS A MULTIYEAR
STARTER.
AT THE CENTER POSITION, IF THERE
IS ANY YOU CAN GET BY IT IS THAT
BUT IT IS NOT A DEVELOPMENTAL
GUY WHATSOEVER.
IT IS IN A PINCH HE CAN PLAY FOR
YOU.
MICHAEL: THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE IN THE BACKEND OF THIS —
26 TO GO.
MIKE: AND I CANNOT BELIEVE SOME
OF THE NAMES STILL ON THE BOARD.
MICHAEL: ISAIAH WILLIAMS.
MIKE: AND THIS IS ANOTHER NAME I
CANNOT BELIEVE IS STILL ON THE
BOARD BUT HERE IS JAHEIM BELL.
6’2", 241.
GERALD EVERETT, THAT IS HIS
SIZE.
IT IS WHO YOU ARE EXPECTING.
IF YOU WANT A NUMBER TO TIGHT
END I CAN PLAY ON THE MOVE AND
CAN BE THE OFFSET GUY.
HIS HAND IS IN THE DIRT AS A
TRUE IN-LINE.
HOW MANY GUYS THAT WERE DRAFTED
ABOVE IN THIS CLASS MAKE THAT
MOVE THAT HE JUST DID?
ONE, TWO, BROCK?
I SAW HIM TAKE HANDOFFS IN SOUTH
CAROLINA AND TAKE THEM TO THE
HOUSE.
THIS GUY SHOULD NOT HAVE LASTED
THIS LONG.
HE CAN KEEP GETTING BIGGER.
I THINK THIS GUY CAN PLAY A
ROLE.
AND HE IS A SEVENTH ROUNDER.
MICHAEL: LEVI JAKE RODRIGUEZ,
OFF MY WATCHLIST.
MIKE: HE WENT TO TEXAS A&M
COMMERCE.
NOT THE HAVEN OF NFL TALENT.
CATER CO. WHO — HE WENT TO
TEXAS A&M COMMERCE.
THEY WERE TEAMMATES.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE ANOTHER PIC IN
FOR THE COWBOYS.
MIKE: SANDRA ASKED, WHERE IS
GORE JUNIOR GOING?
UNFORTUNATELY, I LOVE HIS TAPE
AND I LOVE HIM AS A COLLEGE
RUNNING BACK BUT I DON’T THINK
HE WILL BE DRAFTED.
HE IS 198 POUNDS.
AN UNDERSIZED GUY.
HE HAS HEART.
MICHAEL: HE RUNS REAL HARD.
MIKE: IF HE GETS DRAFTED, IT IS
BY JIM HARBAUGH WITH LIKE THE
LAST PIC.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE — WE WILL DO
IT LIKE THE 49ERS WILL DRAFT HIM
WITH THEIR LAST PICK.
THEY HAVE PICK 251 SO I WOULD
NOT PUT IT PAST HIM.
THAT IS THE KIND OF — THAT IS
WHERE HE COULD COME OFF THE
BOARD.
MICHAEL: THEY DON’T LIKE TO BE
CALLED ULL.
A BIG OFFENSIVE TACKLE.
WHAT MADE HIM LAST THIS LONG?
MIKE: A DEVELOPMENTAL GUY AT
THIS POINT.
AND HE GETS HIS COMPETITION, I
THOUGHT HE PERFORMED REALLY
WELL.
NOT A PURE PROJECT.
HE STARTED MULTIPLE SEASONS AT
LEFT TACKLE AND IS ONLY 22.
A GUY THAT COULD STAYED ONE MORE
YEAR WITH THE PANDEMIC AND
WHATNOT AND BE A 23 OR
24-YEAR-OLD TACKLE COMING UP
YOUR THERE IS POTENTIAL.
I AM NOT CALLING THIS GUY
TERENCE STEELE BUT I THINK YOU
SHOULD’VE GONE HIGHER THAN THIS.
I HAD HIM IN THE RANGE OF A
NICER FIFTH-ROUND DEVELOPMENTAL
TACKLE.
MICHAEL: THE COLTS ARE ON THE
CLOCK.
LET’S KEEP CRUISING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ISAIAH LOOMS
AND LEONARD COME OFF THE BOARD.
I LIKE WATCHING GUYS GET PICKED.
MIKE: AND AT THIS POINT IN THE
DRAFT YOU ARE ALMOST HOPING NOT
TO GET PICKED IF YOU ARE LEONARD
TAYLOR.
YOU COULD GET BIGGER CONTRACTS
AS UFA.
YOU WOULD GET A SECOND CONTRACT
FASTER.
MICHAEL: AND YOU GET TO PICK
WHERE YOU GO.
MIKE: YOU GET TO PICK YOUR
LANDING SPOT AS UFA.
WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE GUYS
AT HOME ARE LIKE, DON’T CALL.
THEY TURN OFF THEIR PHONE, LEAVE
THEIR HOUSE AND GO TO THE WOODS
WHERE THERE IS NO CELL RECEPTION
AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THEM.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
RIGHT NOW.
I’M SEMI-JOKING.
I’M SURE SOME GUYS STILL WANT TO
GET DRAFTED.
MICHAEL: ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS,
RYAN TAYLOR WAS PICKED IN THE
SEVENTH ROUND BY THE PACKERS.
HE DID NOT THINK HE WAS GOING TO
GET PICKED.
SO HE WAS DRIVING, I THINK HE
WAS OUT GOLFING OR HUNTING, I
DON’T REMEMBER WHICH ONE WITH
ANOTHER ONE OF OUR GOOD FRIENDS.
AND HE GOT THE CALL AND THEY
PULLED OVER ON THE HIGHWAY AND
HE WAS JUMPING AND SCREAMING.
SO IT DOES MEAN SOMETHING EVEN
PICKED IN THE SEVENTH ROUND.
THEY WERE JUMPING AND HUGGING —
I CANNOT BELIEVE IT! IT MATTERS.
IT DOES.
IT COUNTS.
THIS IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR A
BUNCH OF FOLKS FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS.
IT IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT YOU MAKE
OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR LIFE.
AND SOMETIMES, FOR SOME GUYS, IT
WILL CHANGE THEIR LIFE.
MIKE: AND YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A
ROUND AND A NUMBER NEXT TO YOUR
NAME.
IF YOU ARE A UFA, BUT IF YOU
HAVE A SEVEN AND A 252 NEXT YOUR
NAME, YOU ARE THAT FOR LIFE.
MICHAEL: HOW MANY DEFENSIVE
BACKS STILL NEED TO BE PICKED SO
I CAN CLEAR MY BOARD?
MIKE: I AM SURPRISED THAT DWIGHT
MCLOUTHERN HAS NOT BEEN
PICKED.
MICHAEL: WE WILL SEE IF IT
HAPPENS IN THE NEXT 23 PICKS.
MIKE: HE PLAYED GOOD BALL IN THE
SEC.
HE DID MISS A LOT OF TACKLES.
HE PICKED OFF JDM’S, HOW MANY
GUYS CAN SAY THAT?
HE BAITED HIM INTO A BAD
DECISION PLAYING COVER.
HE FLIPS HIS HIPS UNDERNEATH AND
HITS THE OUT ROUTE.
I THINK HE HAS SOME GOOD ZONE IN
STINGS.
MICHAEL: THAT IS WHY I LIKE HIM.
COME ON, COLTS.
MIKE: I’M LOOKING FOR JAELON
COKER TO COME OFF THE BOARD.
I’M SURPRISED.
IF YOU HAVE BALL SKILLS AT THIS
POINT IN THE DRAFT, TAKE HIM.
MICHAEL: JONAH — OKLAHOMA
DEFENSIVE END.
OK.
OK.
I FEEL WILD ABOUT OKLAHOMA.
I FEEL OF TWO MINDS, THEY HAVE
NOT HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE OR
HIGH-QUALITY DEFENSIVE LINEMAN
IN A WHILE.
THIS SHOULD CHANGE THAT BUT I
STILL THINK IT WILL TAKE THEM
SOMETIME BUT WE WILL SEE HOW
THAT WORKS OUT.
IT IS AND GO FOR ME FROM A
POSITION STANDPOINT.
WE HAVE SEEN TEXAS CORRECT
THINGS BUT NOW I THINK OKLAHOMA
HAS TO GET TO THE CORRECTION
PATH.
MIKE: WE ARE ROLLING THROUGH THE
NON-COMBINE INVITES.
MICHAEL: UTAH WIDE RECEIVER.
DEVAUGHN VELE.
MIKE: VELE.
DUDE, HE IS THE OLDEST PLAYER
PICKED SO FAR.
TAKE A GUESS AT HOW OLD HE IS.
MICHAEL: 27?
MIKE: 26.
HE TOOK A THREE-YEAR MISSION AND
THEN ENJOYED HIS TIME FOR A FIVE
YEARS AT UTAH.
SO, HARD TO CALL THIS GUY A
PROJECT.
CAREER-HIGH, 265 YARDS IN —
MICHAEL: ONLY PLAYED 10 GAMES.
HE IS — I MEAN, HE IS NOT
CRAZY, I DON’T THINK.
MIKE: I DO THINK THOUGH, WE HAVE
A FEW WIDE RECEIVERS.
MICHAEL: JAELON COKER.
MIKE: WHAT NUMBER WIDE RECEIVER
ARE WE?
WHAT IS THIS AGAIN?
MICHAEL: 8
MIKE: 8 IN THE TOP 34.
16 IN THE TOP 100.
THAT IS 24 THERE.
29.
AND BY THE WAY, WHILE YOU WERE
GONE, WE GOT TO 30 CORNERS.
MIKE: PAST GAME DRAFT.
MICHAEL: 29.
6’5", 210 FROM BAYLOR.
MIKE: WHO ARE THE BENGALS
PICKING.
MICHAEL: MILES COLE.
MIKE: OF COURSE.
MICHAEL: [LAUGHTER]
MIKE: BECAUSE HE IS, DO YOU WANT
TO KNOW HOW TALL HE IS?
MICHAEL: 6’5"?
MIKE: 6’6", 36 7/8 ARMS.
THIS GUY WAS GOING TO BE A
JACKSONVILLE JAGUAR NO MATTER
WHAT.
I WAS NOT PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED
WITH HIS TAPE.
BUT HE IS A LONG AND ATHLETIC
AND NOW HE IS A JACKSONVILLE
JAGUAR.
OF COURSE HE IS.
MICHAEL: THE NEXT PIC IS END.
MIKE: FLYING.
MICHAEL: I LIKE MATTHEW LAY.
— MATTHEW LEE.
MIKE: HE DOES THE BALL HOP STEP.
HE IS UNDERSIZED.
YOU WORRY ABOUT GUYS AT ANCHOR.
I THINK HE COULD START IN TIME.
THEY HAVE ALL FIVE POSITIONS
SET.
THEY PICKED UP A BACKUP LINESMAN
IN THE FIRST ROUND.
HE MAY NOT START THIS YEAR OR
START AT GUARD BUT I THINK HE
COULD MOVE TO THE CENTER
POSITION IN CINCINNATI — I
WOULD NOT CALL HIM A HIGH-END
CENTER BUT IT IS NOT A POSITION
YOU NECESSARILY NEED HIGH-END
TALENT.
I THINK HE IS A SOLID PLAYER.
MICHAEL: EVERYTHING WE ARE
SEEING LOOKS GOOD.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.
WE ARE — OK, LET’S CRUISE.
USC DEFENSIVE END.
SOLOMON BYRD.
I LIKE HIM BETTER AT WYOMING, TO
BE HONEST.
MIKE: I THINK USC HAD A LOT OF
DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS SO THEY LET
GUYS GET AWAY WITH BAD
TECHNIQUES.
MICHAEL: I GUESS, AND MAYBE IT
WAS NOT A HIM PROBLEM BUT
ANOTHER GUY’S PROBLEM BUT YOU
CAN SEE THAT HE HAS THIS
POTENTIAL.
HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
THE THING IS WHEN YOUR DEFENSE
IS NOT ON THE SAME PAGE — THERE
IS A REASON WHY THEY FIRED THEIR
DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.
NO ONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
MIKE: I WILL BE HONEST, HE WAS
ON THE BACK OF MY WATCH LIST.
I SAW HIS TESTING NUMBERS.
AT 251 POUNDS HE RAN A 5.0 140,
A 32 INCH VERTICAL.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE LOWEST
SORT OF TESTING NUMBERS WE HAVE
SEEN, HE AND CAM JURGENS, THOSE
ARE — THAT IS THE POINT WHERE
WE ARE AT.
A GUY THAT LOOKS GOOD ON THE
FOOTBALL FIELD BUT WAS NOT THAT
GREAT, OBJECTIVELY.
MICHAEL: WE ARE AT 240.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK WINNERS AND
LOSERS.
THE PICKS WILL STILL BE UPDATED
ON THE SCREEN.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT?
TEAM BY TEAM?
MIKE: SHOULD WE ROLL THROUGH THE
DIVISION —
NAME THE TEAMS AND THEN SAY
WHICH ONE WON?
AFC EAST — AFC EAST.
OBJECTIVELY, I THOUGHT THE
PATRIOTS GOT THE FRANCHISE
QUARTERBACK.
I HAD HIM AT NUMBER TWO, THEY
GOT HIM AT NUMBER THREE.
IT IS HARD TO CALL THEM THE
LOSER AND I DID NOT LOVE THE
REST OF THEIR PICKS.
IT WAS NOT A STANDOUT FRANCHISE
CHANGING PICKS BUT THEY GOT
DRAKE MAY.
THEY HAVE TO BE A WINNER IN THAT
REGARD.
MICHAEL: THEY GOT THE GUY THEY
BELIEVE CAN BE THE ANCHOR OF THE
FRANCHISE.
I STILL LIKE THE BILLS DRAFT.
SPECIFICALLY COLEMAN.
GETTING HIM A LITTLE LATER WAS
NICE.
IF I’M GOING LOSER, I WOULD
PROBABLY SAY THE DOLPHINS.
MIKE: OK.
MICHAEL: BECAUSE I THINK THE
JETS –IS IT THE JETS?
MIKE: I LIKE THE JETS DRAFT.
MICHAEL: IT HAS TO BE THE
DOLPHINS.
MIKE: I THOUGHT THOSE WERE GOOD
PICKS.
MICHAEL: THEN IT HAS TO BE THE
DOLPHINS.
MIKE: I THOUGHT JOHNSON WAS A
GOOD PICK.
MICHAEL: THEY DIDN’T GET THE
STUFF THEY REALLY NEED.
MIKE: PIC FOR PIC, I THINK I
LIKE THE PATRIOTS THE LEAST BUT
THEY GOT DRAKE MAY.
PICK FOR PIC I GUESS I LIKE THE
DOLPHINS BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE A
LOT OF DRAFT CAPITAL.
I WOULDN’T PUT ANY OF THESE GUYS
IN THE TOP FIVE BUT NOR WHAT I
PUT THEM IN MY BOTTOM 10.
AFC NORTH.
RAVENS, BROWNS, STEELERS,
BENGALS.
EASY WINNER FOR ME IS
PITTSBURGH.
I THOUGHT THEY HAD ONE OF THE
BEST DRAFTS THAN ANYONE.
WE CAN NAME SOME OF THEIR PICKS.
TROY, FIRST ROUNDER GOT HIM AT
20.
STARTING LEFT TACKLE.
ZACH FRAZIER, SECOND ROUND.
STARTING CENTER NEXT YEAR.
PEYTON WILSON STARTING OFF AS
LINEBACKER.
MASON MCCORMICK, AN AWESOME
DEVELOPMENTAL.
INTERIOR OFFENSIVE LINESMAN.
NO SKIP.
THAT IS A GREAT DRAFT SORT OF
THING.
MICHAEL: I MEAN, THE BROWNS —
MIKE: THE BROWNS DID NOT HAVE
THE ABILITY TO HAVE A STRONG
DRAFT.
SO I LOVED THE SECOND ROUND
PICK.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A GREAT VALUE
PIC.
TOP 32 PLAYER ON MY BOARD.
LOVED THAT ONE BUT THEN ZACK’S
VENTURE, I THOUGHT THIRD ROUND
WAS RICH.
COMING OFF HIS INJURY.
I WOULD’VE WAITED.
AND THEN THERE DAY THREE GUYS, I
DID NOT SEE ANY OF THEM BECOMING
STARS.
I THINK THEY HAVE TO BE THE
LOSERS IN THIS DIVISION IF THERE
IS ONE.
NOT HAVING A TON OF DRAFT
CAPITAL DID NOT HELP BUT I LIKED
WHAT THE BENGALS DID, CHRIS
JENKINS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD
DRAFT.
AND THE BALTIMORE RAVENS,
BUSINESS AS USUAL.
NATE WIGGINS IS A STARTING
CORNER FOR YOU WITH HIGH-END
COVER ABILITY.
WALKER, IN THAT OFFENSE AT
LEAST, I LIKE HIM.
MICHAEL: ESPECIALLY WITH THE
PLAY-ACTION THEY WILL BE PLAYING
.
IF YOU CAN PLAY ACTION, THE
ACTION OF JACKSON RUNNING, HE
CAN TAKE THE TOP OFF THAT
DEFENSE.
I THINK THEY COME IN SECOND FOR
ME.
THE BROWNS, I THINK WE HAVE TO
PUT AT THE BOTTOM SIMPLY BECAUSE
THEY GAVE UP A LOT TO GET A
LITTLE.
BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OUT
OF DESHAUN WATSON.
MIKE: AND YOU DO HAVE TO FACTOR
THAT IN.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WONDERING WHY
THEY DID NOT HAVE THE DRAFT
CAPITAL BUT IT WAS BECAUSE THEY
USED IT ON A QUARTERBACK THAT
OBJECTIVELY HAS NOT BEEN GOOD
FOR THEM.
MICHAEL: TITANS.
J.C. LATHAM.
MIKE: THEY ARE — THAT IS AND
OFF THE BUS DUO.
MICHAEL: THE BUS IS GOING TO GO
UP WHEN THEY GET OFF THE BUS.
MIKE: I LOVE THEIR TAPE.
YOU CAN SAY IT IS RICH FOR
EITHER OF THOSE GUYS BUT YOU
WEREN’T GOING TO FIND ANOTHER
GUY LIKE THAT ANYWHERE IN THAT
DRAFT.
THEY WERE ONE OF ONE DUDES.
TONE SETTERS ON EACH SIDE OF THE
BALL.
I LIKE JARVIS BROWNLEE AND
JACKSON.
I CANNOT PUT THE TITANS LAST IN
THIS DIVISION THOUGH I THINK THE
COLTS DID HAVE MY FAVORITE
DRAFT.
MICHAEL: COLTS CRUSHED IT.
MIKE: THE TACKLE/GUARD FROM
PITTSBURGH, THE CENTER FROM
WISCONSIN.
THE REST OF DAY THREE IS KIND OF
WHATEVER BUT THOSE ARE YOUR TOP
25 PICKS AND I LIKED THEM ALL.
MICHAEL: I THINK THE COLTS ARE
THE WINNERS.
MIKE: GIVE ME THE TITANS NEXT
APPEARED THE TEXANS I LIKED
THOUGH I DID NOT LOVE.
I LIKE FISHER AND CALEB.
I LIKED THOSE GUYS BUT DID NOT
LOVE ANY OF THEM.
I WOULD NOT GO TO WAR FOR THEM.
BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT FIRST
ROUND PICK AFTER THE TRADE THEY
MADE A YEAR AGO FOR ANDERSON.
AND THEN THE JACKSONVILLE
JAGUARS.
I LIKED THEIR DRAFT MORE THAN I
USUALLY LIKE THEIR DRAFT BUT I
DON’T SEE I DIE PHILOSOPHICALLY
WITH THE WAY THEY DRAFT.
HE DRAFTS PURE TRADES.
HE WANTS TALL, LONG, EXPLOSIVE.
HE CARES TOO LITTLE ABOUT OFF
FIELD PERFORMANCE MORE OFTEN
THAN NOT.
BUT I LIKE BRIAN THOMAS AND
NATHAN SMITH.
THEY DRAFTED THREE GUYS FROM LSU
AND THEY DRAFTED THE LONGEST GUY
IN THE DRAFT.
IT IS A UNIQUE DRAFT BUT IT IS
WHAT THEY DO.
AFC WEST.
MICHAEL: START WITH THE CHIEFS.
XAVIER WORTHY, WE ALL LIKE HIM.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO, ADAM
HICKS?
IT FEELS FINE. THEY GOT SOME
HELP.
KINSLEY —
MIKE: I WOULD CALL IT A SOLID A-
DRAFT.
THIS IS GOOD DRAFTING.
YOU HAVE A SAFETY THAT CAN START
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
YOU HAVE AN ELITE DEEP THREAT
AND THIS DRAFT AND A HIGH-END
DEVELOPMENTAL TACKLE.
I’M WORRIED IF HE DEVELOPS.
MICHAEL: YOU HAVE MOSTLY
EVERYTHING.
IT IS A DRAFT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU
HAVE MOSTLY EVERYTHING.
MIKE: LAS VEGAS RAIDERS FROM A
PROCESS STANDPOINT — THEY WENT
BACK TO GUYS WE KNOW ARE GOING
TO BE GOOD.
I DONE CENTER.
MICHAEL: BROCK BOWERS.
MIKE: NOT HIGH-VALUE POSITIONS
BUT GUYS WHO AT THAT POSITION
CAN BE A LEAP PLAYERS.
THEIR CEILING IS NUMBER ONE
PLAYER IN THE NFL AT THAT
POSITION.
MICHAEL: THAT HAS REAL VALUE.
I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT
THING TO MENTION.
WHAT ABOUT THE BRONCOS?
MIKE: I LIKE BO NIX.
MICHAEL: THEY GET THEIR
FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
MIKE: I AM A FAN OF IT.
I THINK HE FITS PERFECTLY AND
SEAN PAINS OFFENSE.
DO YOU NEED THOSE GUYS TO WIN
GAMES IN THE NFL?
I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE A GOOD
QB.
FRANKLIN IN THE FOURTH ROUND IS
GOOD VALUE.
ON A PIC BASIS, MAN — ON A
PICK FOR PICK BASIS, THIS
MIGHT BE NUMBER ONE.
WHAT I DON’T THINK THERE ARE ANY
MRS. IN THIS DIVISION.
— MISSES IN THIS DIVISION.
I THINK THAT DIVISION, WE CHALK
UP A BUNCH OF W’S/
.
MICHAEL: NFC NORTH, LET’S GO.
ALL RIGHT.
START WITH THE COWBOYS.
EAST.
HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS?
MIKE: YOU ARE ABOUT TO PUT A
MICAH PARSONS ARGUING THAT IS
THE BEST DIVISION BUT IT IS THE
WRONG DIVISION.
COWBOYS — I CANNOT GIVE
SUPERHIGH GRADE TO BASED ON THE
FIRST ROUND FOR MY MONEY.
I THINK THEY PICKED IT UP AFTER
THAT.
I THINK WILLIAMS IS A SOLID
PLAYER.
I THINK KALIN CARSON IS A NICE
D3 CORNER WITH A LITTLE
VERSATILITY.
OK DRAFT.
I WOULD JUST CALL IT OK.
MICHAEL: I WOULD ALSO SAY OK.
MIKE: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES.
TOP FIVE DRAFT OF ANYONE.
COOPER MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AND COOPER.
I COMBINED THEIR FIRST TWO.
THEY FIT — THEY ARE THE TWO
BEST SCHEME FITS.
THEY GO TO THE OZONE KING.
THEY GET ON DAY THREE JOHNNY
WILSON.
MY FAVORITE TIGHT END PROJECT IN
THIS CLASS AND JEREMIAH TROTTER
WHO THOUGH I DID NOT LOVE HIS
TAPE I THINK IS A GREAT VALUE.
AN ELITE DRAFT.
I THOUGHT THE GIANTS, AFTER
MALIKA NABERS, THE PICK THAT
PICKED ITSELF, THEY DID JUST OK.
I LIKE THE TWO PICKS ON DAY
THREE.
TIGHT END ON RUNNING BACK.
IT FELT LIKE THEY HAD TO GO
SAFETY THOUGH AFTER LOSING
XAVIER MCKINNEY.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE BETTER
PLAYERS ON THE BOARD.
ANDREW PHILLIPS IS DEFINITELY A
BOOM OR BUST AT CORNER.
MICHAEL: AND THEN WE HAD THE
LAST ONE COMING, LET’S GO QUICK.
I LOVE LUKE MCCAFFREY.
THE LAST PIC OF DAY TWO.
BUT, OVERALL, HERE IS THAT THING
— THEY DID NOT MESS IT UP
WHICH I THINK IS A WIN FOR THEM.
MIKE: BUT THEY CAME IN WITH GOBS
OF DRAFT CAPITAL.
SECOND-MOST BEHIND THE BEARS IN
TERMS OF TOTAL VALUE.
THE BEARS HAD PICKS ONE AND
NINE.
THEY HAD A TIME AND THEY GOT A
LOT OF PLAYERS THAT CAN START
FOR YOU.
BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS GOING TO.
I WILL JUST GIVE THEM — THAT IS
A SOLID B+ FOR THEIR DRAFT.
THIS DIVISION, COWBOYS AND
GIANTS ARE PROBABLY THE TWO
TEAMS WHERE I WAS KIND OF LIKE
EH.
EAGLES AND COMMANDERS I LIKED.
MICHAEL: STARTING WITH THE
VIKINGS, I LIKED MCCARTHY.
IN THEORY YOU HAVE YOUR
FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
THAT FEELS LIKE A WIN — IT
FEELS LIKE A WIN FOR THE CITY.
MIKE: AND I LIKE THAT THEY DID
NOT HAVE TO GIVE UP HICKS FOR
THAT.
MICHAEL: WHAT ABOUT THE PACKERS?
MIKE: DALLAS TURNER, THEY TRADED
UP A LOT FOR HIM, I THINK HE IS
WORTH IT.
THE PACKERS FIRST THREE PICKS,
AS SOLID AS THEY CAN BE.
MORGAN, COOPER AND BULLARD.
SAFETY, MORGAN IS MY NUMBER ONE
GUARD.
COOPER, MY NUMBER THREE
LINEBACKER BUT ALSO IT WAS LIKE
CONVERSATIONALLY, THEY WERE
CLOSE.
WILL SEND.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WAS
THE BEST FIT FOR THEIR SCHEME
SCHEMATICALLY.
AFTER THAT, NOTHING MUCH ELSE TO
WRITE HOME ABOUT FOR THE
PACKERS.
BUT THE TOP THREE PICKS ARE WHAT
YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT.
A FINE DRAFT FOR THEM.
THE DETROIT — THE DETROIT LIONS
RIPPED THE DOOR OFF THE DRAFT.
THEY AND THE BEARS — THOSE WERE
DRAFTS.
FRANCHISE CHANGING.
MICHAEL: LIONS, BEARS AND EAGLES
FEEL LIKE THE THREE BIGGEST
WINNERS.
MIKE: LIONS AND BEARS — TOP
FIVE DRAFTS.
THOSE WERE GREAT DRAFTS.
MICHAEL: AND THEN, CAN WE JUST
SAY THE FALCONS —
MIKE: WE DON’T HAVE TO GO PICK
BY PICK.
THEY ARE THE LOSER IN THE AFC
SOUTH.
I DID NOT LOVE THE CAROLINA
PANTHERS DRAFT, UNFORTUNATELY.
I LIKE JONATHON BROOKS BUT HE IS
COMING OFF AN ACL.
TRAVON WALKER’S IS A PROJECT AT
LINEBACKER.
A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT I
WOULD GO FOR A PROJECT
LINEBACKER.
DAY THREE, I LIKE MICHAEL WHO
CAME OFF THE BOARD.
HE IS A TWO DOWN LINEBACKER.
BY THE WAY, MICHAEL PRATT JUST
CAME OFF THE BOARD TO THE
PACKERS.
MICHAEL: THERE IS MY GUY.
MIKE: A QB CAMP BATTLE.
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, THEY ALSO
QUALIFY AS ONE THAT I WAS NOT
SUPER EXCITED ABOUT EVEN IF I
THINK SPENCER RADLER IS A GOOD
PICK.
HE WAS ON DAY TWO BECAUSE YOU
DID NOT THINK HE WAS A FRANCHISE
GUY.
SOLID TO GET HIM.
I CAN’T HATE ON IT TOO MUCH NOW
THAT I THINK ABOUT IT MAURY.
I THINK THEY GOT TWO GOOD
PLAYERS THOUGH THEY HAD A HIGHER
DRAFT CAPITAL THEN I THOUGHT THE
GUYS THEY CAME AWAY WITH FOUR.
IN THAT DIVISION, THE BOX, DID
THEY HAVE THE BEST DRAFT OF THE
BUNCH?
MICHAEL: NONE OF THEM —
MIKE: NONE OF THEM GOT ME TO
EXCITED.
I LIKE GRAHAM BARTON AND
MCMILLAN AND IRVING.
SOLID.
MICHAEL: STILL GOING TO BE THE
WORST DIVISION IN THE NFC.
AND THEN IN THE WEST, YOU GOT
TRADE VINCENT — TREY VINSON.
MIKE: ROBINSON IS A SOLID
DEFENSIVE END.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE FINE.
I DID NOT AGREE WITH EVERY
PICKED BUT THE STRATEGY TO LOAD
UP AND RESET THE ROSTER –WHAT
DO THEY HAVE NOW?
THEY HAVE 12 PICKS.
12 GUYS.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE THE 49ERS.
MIKE: I LOVE THE 49ERS DRAFT.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF MY
FAVORITE DRAFTS OF ANYONE.
BUT THEY DID HAVE A TON OF DRAFT
CAPITAL BUT THEY WENT REAL NICE
AND I ALSO LOVE TO SEE — MURPHY
IS AN INSANE GUY.
CHRISTIAN IS A STARTING GUARD
PURE AND THAT WAS IN THE FOURTH
ROUND.
NOT A LOT OF DRAFT CAPITAL BUT I
DO LIKE WHAT THEY GOT.
IN THAT DIVISION, LET’S HIT THE
RAMS.
MICHAEL: THEN WE CAN GO TO THE
BOARD.
MIKE: RESET THEM.
WHERE ARE THE RAMS?
I CANNOT FIND THEM.
VERSE, FIRST ROUNDER.
BRADEN, SECOND ROUNDER.
BLAKE IN THE THIRD.
A SOLID BACK.
AND WILLIAMS CAM KITCHEN IN THE
THIRD.
I DID NOT LOVE THIS DRAFT.
AND CAM KINCHEN’S — IT WAS NOT
A VALUER OR ANYTHING.
IN THAT DIVISION, SEAHAWKS,
49ERS, CARDINALS, RAMS.
THAT IS HOW I WOULD RANK THEM.
THE BIGGEST WINNERS OVERALL, THE
TWO NFC NORTH TEAMS, LIONS AND
BEARS.
MICHAEL: AND EAGLES.
MIKE: EAGLES, COLTS.
AND THEN, WHO WILL I ROUND OUT
THE TOP FIVE WITH?
GOSH.
LET’S GO —
STEELERS.
THERE IS THE TOP FIVE NO ORDER.
MICHAEL: I CAN GET DOWN WITH
THAT.
LET’S CHECK OUT THE BOARD.
THIS IS THROUGH PICK 239.
WE HAVE BASICALLY THE WHOLE
DRAFT WITH 10 TO GO.
LET’S SEE.
OK.
SOME GUYS — I LIKE MICHAEL
BAIRD TO THE PANTHERS AT
MINIMUM.
PLUS SPECIAL TEAM.
A GUY THAT CAN TAKE BLOCKS.
A TRUE DOG.
HE REMINDS ME OF K.J. BRITT.
HE IS A TWO DOWN PLAYER AWESOME
AGAINST THE RUN AND AWESOME AS A
BLITZER.
HE WILL GET EXPOSED WHICH IS WHY
HE FALLS TO THE SEVENTH ROUND.
WILLIAMS.
A THIRD-YEAR PLAYER.
6’5", 220.
A MASSIVE SAFETY WILL PROBABLY
PLAY LINEBACKER AT THE NEXT
LEVEL AND HE GOES TO THE TITANS.
TAJ WASHINGTON, USC WIDE
RECEIVER GOES TO THE MIAMI
DOLPHINS.
I HAD HIM HIGHER ON MY BOARD
THAN BRANDON RICE.
DYNAMISM.
THIS IS THE MIAMI DOLPHINS.
THEY WANT DYNAMIC PLAYMAKERS.
AND MICHAEL PRATT COMING OFF THE
BOARD.
HE IS A WINNER.
HE TURNED THE TWO LANE AROUND.
THEY WERE 0-11.
MICHAEL: I LIKE HIM AND I THINK
HE IS A GOOD PLAYER.
MIKE: BY THE END, THEY WERE IN
THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME — OR NO.
MICHAEL: THEY ARE IN THE — HANG
ON A SECOND.
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MIKE: MARCUS HARRIS IS OFF THE
BOARD.
I DON’T THINK HE IS BROCK PURDY.
HE HAS A LONG RELEASE BUT HE CAN
CHUCK THE FOOTBALL DOWN THE
FIELD.
MICHAEL: MOVES AROUND IN THE
POCKET.
SCRAMBLES AT THE THROW.
MIKE: HE IS AN ATHLETE.
DEVON CAME OFF THE BOARD TO
WASHINGTON.
HE RAN THE FASTEST 40 OF ANY
TIGHT END AT THE COMBINE BUT HE
IS 225.
MICHAEL: A SLIM GUY.
WE HAVE MARCUS HARRIS.
AUBURN, DEFENSIVE END.
DEFENSIVE TACKLE EXCUSE ME.
MIKE: KIND OF LIKE A 3-4
DEFENSIVE END.
YOU SEE HIM PENETRATE THERE BUT
THAT WAS NOT AS MUCH ON HIS
TAPE.
DEPTH.
HE IS A DEPTH PIECE.
MICHAEL: ADDING DEPTH.
GETTING GUYS TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE TEAM.
YOU GET CJ HENDERSON OUT OF HOLY
CROSS AS A GUARD.
THE CHIEFS PICK 248.
MIKE: WE HAVE TEXANS TO GO,
RAVENS.
49ERS, TITANS, CHARGERS, RAMS,
PACKERS, BRONCOS AND THEN THE
JETS OWN MR. IRRELEVANT.
WE HAVE NINE MORE TO GO UNTIL WE
TIE A BOW ON THE 2024 NFL DRAFT.
IT WAS A CLASS.
I WILL GO ON RECORD TO RECAP THE
CLASS.
THIS WAS A SICK OFFENSIVE CLASS.
ONCE WE STARTED HITTING A FEW
DEFENSIVE PLAYERS, I THINK THERE
WERE — THE FIRST THREE OFF THE
BOARD, INCLUDING DALLAS TURNER.
I THINK THEY WERE PLAYERS.
I LIKE THE CORNERS.
I DON’T KNOW IF ANY OF THEM —
GARDNER, DEREK STINGLEY.
I WOULD NOT PUT ANY OF THOSE
GUYS IN THAT SORT OF REALM OF
TOP — OR EVEN LIKE A DEVON
WITHERSPOON.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE BETTER
PROSPECTS THAN THESE GUYS BUT I
LIKE THEM ALL AND I THINK THEY
WILL ALL BE QUALITY STARTERS AT
THE NEXT LEVEL.
I THINK THE TOP OF THE CLASS
ONLY WAS — THROUGH PICK 11, OR
I GUESS IT WAS PICKED 12, BROCK
BOWERS.
NO, PICKED 13.
WE HAD SIX QUARTERBACKS AND
BROCK BOWERS GOES 13.
THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE 2021
WHERE IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH
THAT DRAFT, MORE LIKE 2011,
THOSE TWO DRAFTS.
EVERY TEAM THAT DID NOT DRAFT A
QUARTERBACK, THEY GOT A LEAP
PLAYERS.
MICHAEL: SOMEONE THAT WILL BE A
PRO BOWLER FOR THEM.
MIKE: 2021, KYLE PITTS, JAMAR
CHASE, MODEL, PENNY STOOL, JC
MOORE, PATRICK SURTAIN AND,
DEVONTA SMITH, MICAH PARSONS AND
ELIJAH VERA TUCKER.
MICHAEL: THEY WERE ALL
CORNERSTONE GUYS.
MIKE: TO ME, I SEE THE TOP OF
THIS DRAFT VERY SIMILARLY.
AND RAY SEAN SLATER, EXCUSE ME.
MICHAEL: NOT EVERYONE IS A
QUARTERBACK.
MIKE: EVERY NON-QB — THAT YEAR
THERE WAS A TREVOR LAWRENCE BUT
THAT WAS IT THAT YEAR.
EVERY NON-QB THIS YEAR BY THE
TIME WE GOT TO PICK 13, BROCK
BOWERS, I WOULD BE FLOORED AT
THEY WERE NOT PLAYING AT A PRO
BOWL LEVEL 2-3 YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT IS THE KIND OF DRAFT IT
WAS.
I REALLY LIKE THE TOP OF THIS
CLASS.
MARVIN HARRISON JR., JOE WALL,
MALIKA NABERS, J.C. LATHAM, AND
BROCK BOWERS — I LOVE THOSE
GUYS AND I THINK THEY ARE GREAT
PROSPECTS.
ANOTHER MISSION GUY — THERE ARE
A ZILLION OF THEM BUT THEY ARE
IN THIS RANGE OF THE DRAFT.
MICHAEL BEARD, HENDERSON.
PHYSICAL TACKLE.
I DID NOT THINK HE WAS GREAT
PASS PROTECTION.
HE COULD BE A RUN BLOCKER.
THAT IS WHY HE WAS STARTING AT
MICHIGAN.
HE MAY NOT EVEN MAKE THAT ROSTER
WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
MICHAEL: THIS IS GOING TO BE —
I THINK WE HAVE THE RAVENS ON
THE CLOCK.
HENDERSON.
HE CAN BLOCK.
HE CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
THAT WHOLE OFFENSIVE LINE IS
DOING THAT.
THAT LINE WOULD PICK UP THE
QUARTERBACK AND MOVE HIM
FORWARD.
MIKE: EVEN IN OPEN FIELD, YOU
DON’T SEE A LINEMAN THAT CLOSE
IN PASSING SITUATIONS.
TIGHT SPLITS.
THEY WANTED TO CREATE THE
DOUBLE-TEAMS OF THE MIDDLE.
IT WAS SUCH A PAIN AFTER WE
SAW 2018 LSU AND 2020 ALABAMA.
EVEN THOUGH GEORGIA TEAMS, SICK
DEFENSIVE TEAMS BUT THEY COULD
MOVE THE BALL.
IT WAS A GRIND TO SEE MICHIGAN
ESPECIALLY AS A NOTRE DAME FAN.
BUT HATS OFF TO THEM.
HARBAUGH — I’M SO GLAD THAT I
DON’T HAVE TO ROOT AGAINST JIM
HARBAUGH ANYMORE.
I CAN ENJOY WHEN HE SAYS THINGS
LIKE WE TREAT — AS WEAPONS IN
OUR OFFENSE.
THOSE WERE ELITE COMMENTS THAT I
HAD TO ACT WERE NOT GREAT.
THE GUY HAS PERSONALITY FOR
DAYS.
IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY HE
SUCCEEDED EVERYWHERE HE HAS GONE
AND IF YOU ARE A CHARGERS FAN
AFTER THIS DRAFT, YOU HAVE TO BE
SUPER EXCITED.
I DON’T CARE THAT YOU DID NOT
GET MALIKA NABERS.
HE WAS NOT GOING TO TREAT HIM
LIKE YOU SHOULD ANYWAYS.
BUT HE WILL USE JOE TO HIS
FULLEST AND JUSTIN HERBERT FOR
THE REST OF HIS CAREER.
HE WILL HAVE RAY SEAN SLATER.
HE WILL HAVE TACKLES.
I THINK THAT MEANS A TON.
YOU SEE QUARTERBACKS AROUND THE
NFL GOING THROUGH IT WITH PASS
PROTECTION.
JOE BURROW, TREVOR LAWRENCE.
BRYCE YOUNG.
I MIGHT HAVE HAD MALIKA NABERS
HIGHER BUT EVERY SCHEME IS
FRENCH.
THAT IS WHY THIS IS SO
BEAUTIFUL.
ONE GUY IN ONE SCHEME COULD BE
WAY HIGHER THAN IF HE WAS ON
ANOTHER TEAM.
MICHAEL: THAT IS THE SCIENCE OF
THE DRAFT.
FIGURING OUT WHAT GUYS FIT ON
YOUR TEAM AND HOW THEY WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK OUT FOR THE
CHEMISTRY ON YOUR ROSTER OFF AND
ON THE FIELD.
MIKE: WE HAVE THE 49ERS ON THE
CLOCK.
WE JUST FLOATED IT OUT THERE.
ARE THEY GOING FOR HIM?
MAKE THE PLAY.
MICHAEL: LET’S DO IT.
MIKE: I THINK I AM OUT OF MY TOP
100 GUYS.
THE WELL IS DRY.
WE ARE TRYING TODAY NEW WELLS
AND NOT FINDING ANYTHING.
WE ARE SLURPING WATER OFF THE
STREET AT THIS POINT TRYING TO
PICK THESE PICKS AT 251 RIGHT
HERE.
BUT 49ERS ON THE CLOCK.
MICHAEL: COME ON, GUYS, LET’S
GO.
IF YOU DON’T KNOW BY NOW —
MY GOODNESS.
MIKE: DUDE, IT WAS FUN HAVING
MICAH PARSONS ON DAY ONE.
MICAH PARSONS IS A LITTLE SCARY,
I WILL BE HONEST.
I DON’T THINK HE IS JOKING SOME
OF THE TIMES.
HE IS INTENSE.
THAT IS THE GUY YOU WANT ON YOUR
SIDE OF THE BALL, FOR SURE.
BUT CJ — I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED
BY C.J. STROUD.
THAT GUY’S KNOWLEDGE OF FOOTBALL
AND PEOPLE THINK, A QUARTERBACK
IS SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWING
FOOTBALL BUT HE NEW POSITIONS
THAT HE HAD NO BUSINESS KNOWING
IN TERMS OF THE INS AND OUTS AND
WHAT IT TAKES.
HE
PLAY.
RECEIVER PLAY INSIDE AND OUT.
IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY THAT GUY
HAD ONE.
THEY DID NOT GO FRANK GORE.
CAN WE GET THE CHAT GOING?
IF YOU HUNG OUT WITH US THIS
LONG, YOU ARE A DIEHARD AND I
WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO
SAY.
MICHAEL: ANOTHER MICHIGAN GUY.
MIKE: PLUMLEY GOES TO SAFETY.
HE IS A HECK OF AN ATHLETE.
I WOULD TRY HIM THERE FOR SURE.
HE WILL HAVE THE ERIC CROUCH
CAREER PATH.
HE DID NOT WANT TO PLAY SAFETY.
HE HATED THAT.
LIVE CAMPUS SAID, HOW DO YOU
RANK THIS DRAFT VERSUS OTHER
YEARS?
WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE
TOP IS SWEET.
THE TOP WAS REALLY GOOD UNTIL
YOU GOT THROUGH ABOUT 50 PICKS.
AND IT IS A BETTER CLASS — AT
THE VERY TOP AS GOOD AS YOU WILL
SEE FROM 2011 AND 2021, IN THAT
REALM.
THROUGH PICK ABOUT 50, I THOUGHT
THEY WERE VERY GOOD.
A VERY GOOD CLASS.
I THOUGHT DAY THREE WAS AS WEAK
AS WE HAVE SEEN.
2021 DAY THREE WAS SUPER WEEK
BECAUSE EVERYONE WENT BACK TO
SCHOOL AFTER THE COVID YEAR.
THERE WERE SO FEW GUYS
DECLARING.
I PUT IT IN THAT REALM.
THAT IS HOW I SEE IT.
AND I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TO
REMEMBER, I TALK ABOUT THE 2022
CLASS WHEN TRAYVON MULLEN ARE
WENT NUMBER ONE OVERALL.
NOT EVERY YEAR WILL THERE BE THE
GUY FOR YOU.
THAT IS WHY YOU CANNOT
PIGEONHOLE YOURSELF ESPECIALLY
IN THE FIRST ROUND INTO
POSITIONS BECAUSE THE BOARD DOES
NOT SHAKE OUT LIKE THAT.
SOMETIMES THERE IS A BUNCH OF
SICK WIDE RECEIVERS AND ODS.
IF YOU NEED DEFENSE, YOU ARE
PASSING OF GOOD PLAYERS.
MICHAEL: YOU NEED MORE DRAFT
CAPITAL —
MIKE: FOR YOU TRADE DOWN TO GET
MORE.
MICHAEL: OR YOU TAKE THE BEST
PLAYER THERE’D.
THE REACHING IS THE THING — FOR
AS LONG AS I’VE BEEN DOING THIS
AND FOLLOWING THE DRAFT, THE
REACHING — AND I HAVE A QUOTE
THAT I ALWAYS SAY EVERY YEAR —
THERE IS NO THIRST LIKE AN NFL
TEAM THIRSTING FOR A
QUARTERBACK.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
MIKE: I THINK WHEN WE SAY
"REACHING" IT IS ALMOST A
MISNOMER IN TERMS OF THE THOUGHT
PROCESS.
TO ME, IT IS "FORCING."
IN THE DRAFT WHEN YOU ARE
REACHING COMING GOING DOWN THE
THEORETICAL BOARD IT IS BECAUSE
YOU HAD ONE POSITION OR ONE ROLL
IN MIND.
SO IN MY MIND WHY DOES AT PLAY
AS YOU ARE FORCING A PICK.
YOU ARE FORCING SOMETHING — I
HAVE THIS HOLE IN MY ROSTER AND
I HAVE TO FIND A GUY SO THIS IS
THE NEXT BEST GUY AVAILABLE ON
THE BOARD.
AND YOU ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT
IT EXCEPT THAT THIS GUY FITS
YOUR NEEDS.
WHEN IN ACTUALITY, YOU WERE
TAKING A GUY THAT — AND YES, HE
COULD PLAY THE RUN AS A SIXTH
TECH BUT HE WOULD NEVER IMPACT
THE PASSING GAME AT A HIGH
LEVEL.
IT IS A FORCING WHAT YOU THOUGHT
YOUR TEAM NEEDED INSTEAD OF
LOOKING AT THE DRAFT BIG PICTURE
AND SAYING, JOSH ALLEN MAY NOT
BE MY SIXTH — BUT HE CAN BE A
PASTOR.
WHO WILL THE TOP UFA BE?
IT IS LOOKING LIKE LEONARD
TAYLOR.
I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING THERE
— I’M NOT GOING TO SPECULATE TO
WHAT — BUT I JUST THINK HE IS
OFF BOARDS.
THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION.
EVEN LIKE — EVEN SEEING HIS
DISAPPOINTING TAPE FROM THIS
LAST SEASON —
MICHAEL: HE IS STILL A GUY YOU
SHOULD PROBABLY DRAFT.
MIKE: YES.
MICHAEL: THE CHARGERS PICK
CORNELIUS JOHNSON.
MIKE: JEFF AND ASKED, WILL THE
RAIDERS REGRET NOT BEING
AGGRESSIVE AT THE QB POSITION?
I THINK IT WOULD’VE TAKEN THEM A
LOT TO MOVE OUT.
IF THEY COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN
THE TOP THREE, CHANCES ARE ONE
OF THE GUYS THEY DRAFTED WOULD
NOT BE A DAY ONE STARTER WITH AN
ABILITY TO ELEVATE THE TEAM.
MAY NOT EVEN HAVE BEATEN OUT
MICHENER AND HE COULD BE DRAFTED
REALLY HIGHLY NEXT YEAR.
YOU ARE IN A DOGFIGHT OF A
DIVISION.
IT IS NOT AN EASY DIVISION TO
COMPETE IN WITH THE CHIEFS AND
CHARGERS WITH JIM HARBAUGH.
MAKE THE SITUATION GREAT FOR THE
QUARTERBACK AND I THINK THEY
DID.
AND NOW MAYBE YOU CAN ATTRACT A
DOC PRESCOTT.
MAYBE YOU CAN ATTRACT A GUY WHO
MAY BE UNHAPPY WITH HIS
SITUATION AND YOU CAN TRADE FOR
SOMEONE LATER.
I LIKE WHAT THE RAIDERS DID
MICHAEL: I THINK THE BATHROOM
BREAKS WERE WELL-TIMED.
THEY HAD TO BE BECAUSE THEY HAD
THAT HAPPEN.
DID THEY EAGLES MOVE DEJEAN TO
SAFETY?
MIKE: I THINK SLOT.
I DON’T THINK YOUR BENJAMIN
BRADBERRY OR SLEIGH — EVEN IF
THEIR PLAY IS ADJUSTED.
THEY MAY FORCE THEIR HANDS THIS
YEAR.
SLEIGH IS OLDER THAN REGINALD.
IF YOU LOSE THAT ONE STEP AT
CORNER IN THE NFL, PEACE.
I WOULD NOT PUT IT OUT OF THE
REALM OF POSSIBILITY WHICH IS
WHY HE WAS COVETED SO HIGHLY.
EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WAS A FIVE
POSITION DEMAND.
MICHAEL: WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED
ABOUT HARTMAN.
I LIKE HIM AS A PLAYER.
MIKE: HE WILL BE SITTING IN THIS
CHAIR ONE DAY.
HE WILL BE TAKING OVER FOR KERR
CURB STREET ON GAME DAY — KURT
HERB STREET ON GAME DAY.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
MURRAY, FAVORITE FANTASY ROOKIE
THIS YEAR?
MIKE: MARVIN HARRISON JR..
PACKERS PICKED KAELIN KING.
HE CAME OFF THE BOARD.
AND AS MUCH AS WE SAY HIS TAPE
WAS — IT IS THE SAME ARGUMENT
WE ARE MAKING WITH LEONARD
TAYLOR.
THE TALENT DID NOT GO AWAY.
MAYBE MENTALITY, WHATEVER,
CHANGED AND THOSE ARE THINGS YOU
WORRY ABOUT BUT IT IS DIFFICULT
TO DO WHAT HE DID AS A
SOPHOMORE.
WHAT LEONARD TAYLOR DID AS A
SOPHOMORE WITHOUT HAVING
SOMETHING TO YOU.
CAN YOU RECAPTURE IT?
MAYBE YOU WANT TO EVER AND HE IS
LOST AND IT CAN’T BE FOUND BUT
MAN, I DO GO BACK TO THAT YEAR’S
TAPE AND I HAD HIM IN MY FIRST
ROUND LOCKED GOING INTO THE
SEASON.
I HAD HIM ABOVE GUYS THAT WERE
FIRST ROUNDERS THEMSELVES BASED
OFF A TAPE.
A LOT CAN CHANGE.
BUT MAYBE HE CAN GET IT AGAIN.
MICHAEL: HERE WE GO.
WE HAVE A BUMP ON NEXT YEAR’S
CLASS.
QUARTERBACK STANDPOINT, DO YOU
LIKE DYLAN GABRIEL NOW AT
OREGON?
WHAT ABOUT JAELON MELROSE?
MIKE: I THINK HE HAS TO CHANGE
POSITION.
THE POCKET PRESS IS A DISASTER.
HE RUNS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I THINK CARSON BACK COULD BE A
FIRST ROUNDER.
I WOULD NOT HAVE PUT HIM IN
THERE.
THOSE GUYS ARE AT THE TOP OF MY
QUARTERBACK CLASS.
I LOVE NOAH, THE ARIZONA
QUARTERBACK, REDSHIRT FRESHMAN.
HE IS A PLAYMAKER.
HE IS BRYCE YOUNG, MIGHT BE
SHORTER.
BETTER BELT.
HE WILL BE A NICE LITMUS TEST.
HOPEFULLY, BRYCE YOUNG FIGURES
IT OUT.
THAT MIGHT HELP HIS DRAFT STOCK
GOING FORWARD.
I THINK JAMES PIERCE, THE
TENNESSEE EDGE RUSHER, PUT HIM
IN THE TOP FIVE NOW.
BENJAMIN MORRISON, NOTRE DAME
CORNER, FIRST ROUNDER.
JOHNSON, MICHIGAN CORNER.
TOP 10 SORT OF GUY.
TRAVIS HUNTER, COLORADO CORNER.
PUT HIM IN THE TOP 10 RIGHT NOW.
THOUGH CORNERBACK LAST NEXT
YEAR, THESE ARE GUYS THAT HAVE
BEEN PLAYING BALL SINCE THEIR
FIRST — SINCE THEIR TRUE
FRESHMAN YEAR.
MICHAEL: ANTHONY, I’VE BEEN HERE
ALL THREE DAYS.
PLEASE ANSWER MY ONE QUESTION,
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CHIEFS
RUGBY GUY?
MIKE: DUDE, I’M GOING TO NEED TO
SEE SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
I NEED SOME RUGBY TAPES.
WHERE IS THIS?
DID I MISS THE PICK?
MICHAEL: HE WENT IN THE — LEWIS
SAMET — LOUIS ZAMETT.
I DON’T HAVE IT.
I DON’T SEE THIS GUY.
MIKE: HE IS IN TEXAS WITH MY
HOMES — WITH MAHOMES.
MICHAEL: OK.
NOT A DRAFT PICK.
I WAS LIKE, WAIT, DID WE MISS
IT?
MIKE: I WILL HAVE TO WATCH THE
TAPE AND GET BACK TO YOU.
I HAVEN’T FOUND THAT TAPE.
SORRY.
BEST ROOKIE QB FOR FANTASY
FOOTBALL?
I SAY CALEB WILLIAMS.
MICHAEL: YOU WILL GET RUSHING
YARDS.
MIKE: YOU HAVE A GREAT SITUATION
THERE FOR HIM TO SUCCEED.
AND I WILL SAY — I THOUGHT BO
NIX WAS THE MOST NFL READY.
IT IS HARD NOT TO BE WHEN YOU’VE
PLAYED 61 GAMES.
HE WENT TO A SITUATION WITH AN
OK O-LINE.
WILLIAMS IS THE ONLY ONE THOUGH
BUT I THINK WILL BE RELEVANT.
THAT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
I REMEMBER KYLER YEAR ONE UNDER
CLIFF, THEY DID NOT RUN HIM THE
WAY THEY DID IN YEARS 2-3.
THEY WERE TRYING TO PROTECT HIM.
I DON’T THINK WE WILL SEE THEM
TAP INTO HIS STRENGTHS IN YEAR
ONE.
BUT IF THEY DO, HE IS A TRUE
BURNER AT THE QUARTERBACK
POSITION.
MICHAEL: ABSOLUTELY LOVE HIM.
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS.
MIKE: LAST PICK.
MICHAEL: WHO IS YOUR CALL?
I’LL GO ISAIAH WILLIAMS.
MIKE: I LIKE ISAIAH WILLIAMS.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
JAILING KEY, THE ALABAMA SAFETY.
IF YOU ARE AN ALABAMA PLAYER AND
YOU DON’T GET INVITED TO THE
SENIOR BOWL, YOU ARE OFF THE
RADAR AS A PROSPECT.
THEY INVITE EVERY SINGLE ALABAMA
PLAYER THAT COULD EVER FEASIBLY
BE DRAFTED.
JUST TO GET THE FANS THERE.
MICHAEL: LET’S DO A QUICK RECAP
OF THE SEVENTH ROUND AND THEN WE
WILL GET OUT OF HERE.
I’M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO
DINNER.
MIKE: I COULD GO FOR ANOTHER
ROUND.
LET’S GO EIGHTH ROUND.
PRODUCTION TEAM, YOU GUYS CAN DO
IT.
MICHAEL: LET’S HIT THE ONES WE
LIKE.
JEAN BAPTISTE.
MIKE: A SOLID DEPTH PIECE.
A THIRD DOWN PASS RUSHER.
AFTER THAT, BRENDAN RICE IS
INTERESTING.
MICHAEL: I LIKE TREY TAYLOR.
MIKE: MILES COLE, HE CRACKS ME
UP.
JAHEIM BELL IS MY FAVORITE.
EVERETT WENT SECOND ROUND.
I THINK BELL IS A BETTER
PROSPECT.
MICHAEL: THAT WAS AN INTERESTING
PROSPECT.
NEXT ONE.
MIKE: I LIKE MICHAEL BARRETT TO
THE PANTHERS.
A BIG CULTURE GUIDE.
MICHAEL: THE PANTHERS NEED THAT.
THOMAS DAVIS ISN’T THERE.
MIKE: THEY LOST FRANKIE WHO WAS
KIND OF THAT FOR THEM.
MICHAEL: MICHAEL PRATT.
MOVES AROUND BEHIND AND IN THE
POCKET.
AND HE CAN SLING THE BALL.
MIKE: WOULD HE BEAT OUT SEAN
CLIFFORD?
MICHAEL: HE MIGHT GO PRACTICE
SQUAD.
WE WILL SEE.
LET’S SEE THE NEXT ONE.
MIKE: CORNELIUS JOHNSON CAME OFF
THE BOARD.
HE HAS SOME SPEED.
HE WAS STARTING OVER ROMAN
WILSON EARLY IN HIS CAREER.
BUT KAELIN KING, I’M GLAD HE
WENT TO THE PANTHERS — THE
PACKERS.
I THINK HE IS MORE TALENTED THAN
THAT.
AND THERE WILL NOT BE A LOT OF
DISTRACTIONS IN GREEN BAY.
MY BROTHER LIVES OUT THERE.
HE CANNOT GET HIMSELF INTO TOO
MUCH TROUBLE.
MICHAEL: MY BUDDY PLAYED FOR THE
PACKERS AND HE SAID THE SAME
THING.
ALL RIGHT, BROTHER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TUNING
INTO THE BR DRAFT SHOW.
WE ARE DONE.
THAT IS EDGE.
THANK YOU.
GOODBYE, GOODBYE, GOODBYE.
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