J.J. McCarthy Has Become The Arizona Cardinals’ Golden Ticket Following Stellar Pro Day At Michigan. Will Monti Ossenfort leverage both the New York Giants and Minnesota Vikings for a month trade haul? Will Arizona sports fans be comfortable leave 2024 NFL Draft without Marvin Harrison Jr.?
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1:30 JJ McCarthy buzz at Michigan Pro Day
8:00 Drake Maye vs. JJ McCarthy
12:00 Trade down packages
26:50 Will MHJ be another Arizona sports what if?
35:00 What package would satisfy Cards fans?
40:20 Building Our Empire: Mock Draft
1:03:30 Fan Mock Friday
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It’s [Applause] Hello and welcome it’s phnx Cardinals on a fan mock Friday presented by our friends at OG’s flavoring Fridays I’m Johnny venerable he is BU Brock welcome to your Premier Arizona Cardinal podcast I mentioned OG’s check them out not your average cannabis infused gummy they absolutely positively knock it out of
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Bo no it didn’t uh as far as what you know he kind of set all the right things he made the all the right throws and we knew this right we we’ve seen this this is a tale as old as uh pre-draft workouts go where you look good in
Shorts has anybody like not looked good at their pro day has anybody said uh you know what I didn’t really like how he looked in shorts he actually he kind of underwhelmed throwing the wide open wide receivers and and going back calling and and uh just making plays that he knows
You know backwards and forwards I I didn’t think he looked that great can I tell you I thought you were going with has anybody ever not looked good in shorts and I was going to say my wife thinks I look terrible in shorts every time I wear them with my white man
Thighs I’m not allowed to wear cargo shorts I thought that’s where you were headed so it’s fun stuff you’re learning about your boys here on a Friday oh gez uh no Zack Wilson had had a great had a great pro day Johnny Manzel remember uh former
President who was it it was uh George bus Senor was that Johnny Manzel’s Pro on golf carts yeah like Pro dayss are wild and uh you know here we’re here for it though I’m here to Pub up JJ McCarthy as are the Arizona Cardinals we want the
Good Vibes going that is unless you’re rooting for a certain maybe Hall of Fame level Prospect at receiver to stick and pick at level four but I don’t know man it does feel like all the Twitter tea leaves right now are basically coming to the bat of JJ he’s going top three or
Four top three four or five that’s where we’ve gotten here in late March it’s wild yeah it was a star seted Affair too as far as NFL front office exacts and coaching staff members uh didn’t get the full Vikings contingent but we got enough right we got their quarterback
Coach there uh we got some New England Patriots Elliot wolf ever heard of him if you haven’t he’s he’s the guy that’s kind of making the decisions I’m sure a lot of people hav I don’t blame you if you haven’t heard of Superstar Elliot wolf who holds on to the third overall
Pick and it doesn’t have an official official title with the Patriots yet um but yeah I mean you’ve got teams that are intrigued but also you’ve got 17 and they have 17 players that were part of the pro day today for Michigan from the national champion wolver Wolverines
Roster well Michigan’s team I would be disappointed if if Monty Austin for did not draft a Michigan player in this draft like with the reputation that they have the Monty Austin for it’s been kind of known that got a significant presence within the Midwest I think he used to be
A Midwest Scout dating back to his time in Tennessee and then of course coming out west from New England to the Midwest like I I think Michigan’s on the stop for the Cardinals in route to maybe Columbus and you’re scouting Marvin Harrison Jr over the course of the the
Uh college football season but love the engagement in the chat already like this video Josh coming out fire him with this comment mhj is going to the cards we’re not going to get enough picks to make it worth it I uh I would say I hope that that’s true I can’t definitively say
That that’s going to be true because I think the closer you get to the draft the more people can talk themselves into prospects and it’s why if you’re a veteran quarterback waiting to sign like a Ryan tanah Hill probably gonna be waiting until after the draft whereas
The closer you get it’s always said try to sign your big money free agent deal in March because when people when Executives Scouts alike get to April it is tunnel vision you fall in love with the prosp ECT and I’m going to tell you right now after all this kind of whining
And dying into JJ McCarthy his family getting to know him the fact here’s what I do like if I’m a QB needy team he’s 20 years old powerball’s given him the stamp of approval like I I do think some team is GNA come to the Arizona
Cardinals with a a fair offer now do they take it that remains to be seen both yeah I mean that’s why you kind of have to wait with baited breath all the way up until you hear that famous ESPN jingle right then with the the draft pick being in and
Roger Goodell takes the strut to the podium and says with the fourth pick the Arizona Cardinal select out of Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr and then we throw we absolutely go nuts at our draft party out at heiler River resorts in casino’s Wild Horse Pass but
Until then nobody can sleep easy nobody can kind of just take it easy and watch this all the rest of the you know the rest of the pro days and the rest of this pre-draft process or turn on NFL Live or NFL Network or consume their show without it looming without it being
There like Michael Myers with his steak Knife ready to take down Dreams yeah it’s nightmare to a lot of people out there I mean it’s it’s a huge it’s a polarizing subject like the fact that we’ve spent the week kind of broaching this uh it’s it it really sheds to how
Realistic it is and for the man himself to sit up there with his head coach Jonathan Ganon and say yeah we’ve got a big neon sign that says we’re open and there’s not going to be a close sign until they make the pick and that’s I I
Wish I had something that was you know like a nice calming warm blanket that would say it’s gonna be all right and Marv’s gonna be a cardinal but yeah you can’t definitively say that you’re a wet blanket in a lot of aspects so yeah I agree with that let’s get to the Super
Chat Rudy here $199 what if McCarthy goes to New England at three I would assume Drake May becomes a Minnesota Viking at some point or a New York Giant in some kind of trade-up I here’s what I think about that Rudy that I I would think that these teams have done enough
Homework if that happens on Drake May to to say themselves we got to go up and get him the pre-draft type the fact that like Caleb Williams he had a better sophomore season than he did Junior season I also think that’s not likely for one specific reason Rudy and this
This could be arrogance on my part I feel like McCarthy while more talented is too too similar to Mac Jones National Championship quarterback a little bit IM mobile to JJ McCarthy like it’s not apples and oranges they’re not the same Prospect I think New England getting Drake May East Coast kid already played
On the same Coast right a moldable piece of clay like Justin Herbert like I like JJ McCarthy fine he’s not and I I Don’t Love Drake May he’s not the athlete of Drake may he doesn’t have the arm strength he doesn’t have the mobility he could get there at some point I you
Don’t think Dr Drake May’s a better Prospect than JJ McCarthy no no I I think as far as arm Talent yeah Drake May got him well the arm strength thing actually uh JJ McCarthy registered the third fastest throw in NFL combine history after Josh Allen and Joe Milton
Who are huge guys so that’s pretty impressive actually he’s got good arm strength but I I mean I think as far as what you’re able to see the throws all over the field and some of the touch passes and Drake May is raw in his own
Right but then you look at some of the JJ McCarthy um like High School footage like the guy’s he is a pretty sick athlete like I think you’re I mean probably disrespectful I said it was arrogant to comparing to M Jones I just feel like there are too many
Similarities with the setup that M Jones had and the setup that McCarthy had at Michigan whereas may you could sell the fan base on you’re getting your own kind of Josh Allen molded piece of clay Justin Herbert and also nobody thought that you could get Drake May at three
Pre-draft season pre-ol football season that’s a gift to you like it’s a gift the Cardinals could get Marvin at four so I still think Jaden Daniels to the commanders I feel like is a done deal don’t you feel like that’s basically a done deal at this point it certainly
Feels that way um unless you know it’s been a massive smoke screen but as far as we know cliff and how Cliff likes to operate offensively and what he prefers as far as the skill set from his quarterback and if you’re looking for somebody that profiles like Kyler and
Can play off schedule and I’m not saying he’s like Mahomes at all but can play off schedule a little bit it’s Jaden Daniels right it’s Jaden Daniels and I think they’re Blown Away probably by his tape and they would probably go with the Heisman Trophy winner over a guy who as
We mentioned he struggled in his previous season with the Carolina Tar Heels but did did he have the infrastructure offensively like uh like Daniels had in in the SEC with the tigers with two first round wide receivers no um but I I think I think you know Drake May didn’t do himself any
Favors this season when he had an opportunity to put up some big numbers against some bad ACAC teams like NC State Virginia instead he struggled so you know Drake May JJ McCarthy are two prospects that I think the jury Still Remains out uh where the two top guys it
Feels like they’re Sharpening at the top of the the draft where these other guys they they’ve got their own respective you know red flags that the NFL is doing their best right now uh in vetting them especially the teams that that are uh that that are interested yeah Albert
Breer was on uh T NBC Sports in Boston I think it was yesterday yeah basically saying that he has heard commanders Jaden Daniels feels like uh they’re in lock step with each other and then he said if that’s true that would mean the Patriots would select Drake May at three
Like I didn’t JJ McCarthy wasn’t really in even in the conversation and he’s as tap as anybody and I would imagine that the Patriots over the course of this season did a lot of work on Drake May in their backyard so uh what are some of the experts in this area suggesting well
Let’s talk about this JJ McCarthy’s pro day I say experts we give Matt Miller a lot of grief on this show he was in attendance at JJ McCarthy’s Pro Day here’s what he had to say Miller saying McCarthy’s throwing session last about 25 minutes it was quote clean just two
Clear misses he showcased zip and touch while hitting a lot of the deep routes he told me he wanted to show his touch placement and did well there McCarthy has easy power and velocity uh and again like I he’s got a lot of good things
Going I think for for him to go to a place like Minnesota where you can sit for a while is the best possible Avenue in a dome with a loaded roster especially offensively I don’t think McCarthy in Talent deprived New England can do a lot for you especially in year
One whereas like Drake man you throw him out there in October let him out athlet some people and uh cook with some rookies I just at the end of the day it’s like we have heard now definitively the Giants and the Vikings are all in on
JJ McCarthy and so it’s going to be a slugfest bow as to who can get up to where to get him and this is what’s important for a lot of people to understand because I still see a lot of like mock drafts with I I get it it’s
It’s pre-draft but it’s like there is no reality in which the Vikings trade up with the Chargers draft like that’s not happening I don’t I don’t understand how people can formulate that like you want to say on the clock this is going to happen absolutely but a lot of people on
Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it are suggesting that the Chargers and the Vikings could do a deal tomorrow that that would leave you so vulnerable to the giant like him to Le frog you it’s I I don’t even think that the Giants GM makes the call to ausome Fort
Austin Fort calls the Giants GM if they pull that deal off TR this is the EAS move you you’ve got to make send me you know your second rounder that’s it that’s all it’s going to cost you and we’ve got who we want and the Vikings
Like what are they gonna do at five they’re gonna take I mean they could you know trade back out they could but it’s already it’s a disaster and blown up in their face they’d have to almost take like you’d have to like take like a bon
X and just be like this is our plan all along we knew this was going to happen that’s a it’s a fireable offense and with how much these teams vet this and they go through these scenarios there is no way nobody in the building of smart people in Minnesota would would say you
Know what this is a good idea yeah it’s a it’s legitimately one of the worst ideas in the history of pro sports Monty Austin for be like hey you see what they did can you believe that yeah let’s do it let’s just pull the deal off you I’ll move down whatever you
Want bag of footballs yeah unbelievable all right see you later I mean it’s it would be an egregious mistake and and you’re right I think Minnesota Vikings fans are way smarter than that to understand that you know it that that is not solidify yourself even though all signs should point to the Arizona
Cardinals if they stick and pick they’re not taking a quarterback but we know that especially when you’ve got the general manager this week saying we’re open we’re always GNA be open it’s just it it would be a a horrible move and and hilarious I mean the Vikings are an
Organization I mean when I was growing up they missed their pick they were late getting the pick in like they they dropped down a spot at in the NFL draft first round yeah the year they were in the 20s right and they missed it the clock expired and the next team was like
Okay we’re gonna run our our pickup to to get selected because you guys ran out of time and they had to pick a pick later bad real bad Josh burlinson we’ve got six picks in three rounds in one of the deepest drafts in recent history that’s true uh we don’t need to trade
For more picks in the future I agree with that just profit off the smart moves Monty made last year and I think they’re weighing that right now and I Josh I think to this podcast you’re making a lot of sense to this fan base you’re making a lot of sense I don’t
Want to see a bunch of future picks in 2025 and 2026 like if you’re if you’re at dead set on trading down if somebody blows you away again then you have to do what Minnesota is doing where you’re accumulating assets for this year to entice somebody for this year because we
Already know next year’s draft while undecided and unknown is not as good as this year it’s just not so that’s why if you’re the Vikings you go up and you get 23 and you have 11 and you got to add more to it because you don’t have a
Second rounder now so I I’m with you but at the same time it’s like Austin Ford and Ganon got like five or six year Deals they are not going anywhere at least for hopefully indefinitely so like I I get it people are putting pressure on use the picks this year that you’ve
Accumulated it’s time to to cash in I think they’d love to be in a mindset where every draft they’ve got double digit picks High you know top 100 picks to navigate and keep doubling and tripling down on it it’s nice to think of that that that’s security right we we
All want security don’t we we want like the Financial Security of it we just want to put our hands behind our head and kick our our legs up right and relax and and and watch our our money work for itself or our our our draft capital work
For itself in this instance and like like with all these rampant trade rumors and you got two viable options one within Striking Distance in the Giants to where you could pull off a trade and still get what everybody wants or you got the Vikings where you have to give
Up something even when you’re getting so much in return in the potential of three first round picks and that that seems to be the Baseline but you know the Hall of picks from a team building standpoint it it makes a whole lot of sense but and
You can make a case for it I think you absolutely and there’s just going to be naysayers just because they w a certain player and they fell fell in love with a prospect but Marvin Harrison Jr there they’re still the case to be made for him regardless you’ve got you’ve got
Washington and you’ve got even even the top three teams Chicago Washington New England they have been given the opportunity to trade out and they said thanks but no thanks we’re going to do it in uh and we’re going to go with one player instead now it’s at the most
Important position in all of sports a quarterback but still when you have a player with Elite playmaking ability like Marvin Harrison Jr who is not just like Pro ready he’s almost star ready coming to this game coming from Ohio State to the NFL level he’s not just Pro
Ready he’s star ready right I mean I don’t think you can deny that and you got like the bit nikov winner you’ve got a guy that’s gone over a thousand yards receiving two consecutive Seasons what’s never happened in Ohio State history he made history at a place in Columbus that
It’s tough to crack the record books he caught 14 touchdown passes from CJ stoud and then rag arm Kyle mccort 14 touchdown passes catches from and from both C both quarterbacks yeah I mean he’s he’s regardless of who’s throwing him the football you know a Surefire NFL prospector a ham sandwich he’s making
Plays and like Monty aen for you can look at it and try to read the T leaves from what he said earlier this week and like what’s what’s going on but this off season the Arizona Cardinals have built this roster and continue to have a huge glaring hole at the X wide receiver
Position and there’s no player that’s more well equipped in this off season including free agency the trade market and the NFL draft to play that role better than Marvin Harrison Jr so and Marvin’s actions would allude to the fact that he knows where he’s going and
He’s just kind of sit sitting out and basically saying I’ll see you guys in Glendale in the fall uh Jaylen Blair go ahead hey I just think when when you talk about it too it’s like I know he signed a long-term deal and I know that there’s probably a lot more patience
That’s being preached uh from even Monty Austin for its bosses and there’s less meddling and there’s more uh just faith in in the guy that’s calling the shots but if he passes up on a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr like there’s the missed opportunity of having Marvin on your
Team going elsewhere and succeeding the shortterm long-term consequences of that and missing out on a playmaker of his level and then you’ve got like the fans discontent right like you’re going to have a fan base that is going to be split on your decision regardless of the
All of players say split I think the fan base would be major the large majority of the fan base would be upset and then and then the pressure it puts on Monty ausen for on future drafts in in this regular season and and what the results
Are going to be like the pressure to win uh even more so without Marvin Harrison Rises uh because of what he’s potentially going to do elsewhere in the league Jaylen Blair $10 Super Chat here’s some good news sounds like teams aren’t expecting Arizona to move Tony Pauline had some reporting today
Suggesting cards aren’t moving and the Chargers are more the spot albri on Twitter kept suggesting Chargers too so it’s funny you brought up Benjamin Albright Jaylen by the way thank you for the support friend of the program we appreciate that Super Chat Albright was speaking on behalf of compensation which
Is something that you and I have talked about all week and the fact that I’m sorry A lot of these experts on Twitter seem to be underscoring what exactly it would take to get up into the top five Benjamin Albright saying it is theoretically possible but I will tell
You that NFL teams are using the floor compensation model the floor not the ceiling as the ners trade to three which is three ones and a third which is what your boys suggested earlier this week three ones and a sweetener for that quarterback three whether it be in
Arizona or the Chargers and again Austin Ford bow very much of that mindset so again I I think if you’re concerned about the Arizona Cardinals trading out that’s fair if you’re concerned about the Cardinals getting swindled in the package I would not stress about it yeah
No I mean I I’ve read and we went through some of the scenarios yesterday and even like working with somebody’s uh point scale where you know they they try to make you where you can make as far as draft capital for draft capital and how the points even out you
Can use the old Jimmy Johnson chart but you gotta throw that out the window because it it doesn’t start there it starts with what Benjamin Albright outlined there and what we’ve been outlining the entire time it starts with three firsts and it with a sweetener a day two
Pick um and that’s where you that’s where you can work off of it outside of that like it’s a nonstarter I think for m atin for like he already got a better deal last season we talk about Trey Lance that was back with the quarterback tax Monty Austin for pulled off a deal
That’s pretty comparable to that last season where he almost got like the he got the Texans second round pick which was the first selection of the second round he essentially got three first even though he didn’t have the fifth year option for you know uh the pick
That he eventually traded away to trade back up in the draft for Paris Johnson Jr so you know Vikings fans uh in any other team I’ve seen the Raiders is a team and the Broncos continue to be in a conversation but they don’t have enough Capital to get
Out of your Broncos what right but in that vicinity like it they they kind of get this uh false sense that it’s not GNA cost that much like in order to get Monty ausome for to budge you have to start there because he’s not going to
Take anything less also like this is not dirt mcgurt draft 2013 when like half the players are going to be ass in the top 10 this is a blue chip Elite draft let me spell it out for you it is 20 times better than last year right there’s no Tyrie Wilson sneaking into
The top 10 this year folks there’s no Peter scony T-Rex arms that’s gonna be coming around pick seven eight or nine these are the best of the best college football running back yeah right let’s take like I like jir Gibbs and bean Robinson they’re not sneaking into the
Top 15 this year folks so if you’re pivoting off of a premi pick a Blue Chip Pick Minnesota Vikings and you’re asking the Cardinals from going from four to 11 you better just say pick any of our draft picks for the next three years put the list together and we’ll and we’ll
Approve it that’s what you have to do like I’m sorry your first pick is outside the comfort zone for me and many Cardinal fans like I think that’s why most if you do trade down would assume that the Giants make a lot of sense you
Get them aak neighbors a Joe Al maybe a Dallas Turner a little bit further down 11 is like and I like this draft a lot you miss the top blue chippers there’s no guarantee of anything right you’re in that next tier of corner D tackle Brian Thomas Jr maybe ot4 but like the
Cardinals deserve a top 10 pick after this season they are not good enough to water it down further so I’m with you there but yeah like these these packages 11 is not good enough 23 is a late first round pick somebody mentioned this on Twitter and people put this in the all
The time it’s not really three ones you are swapping ones and then you get an additional two first rounders all of which and we’ve emphasized this every pick that you get back in this deal will be worse than the pick that you have at pick four every one of them some of them
At 23 and maybe even the 2025 first next year will be significantly worse you are watering it down look at the Cardinals just endured with the Houston Texans so if you’re Austin Ford I’m with you you have to be blown away to the point where
You look at your owner you look at Dave Sears and John the Gan just like how do we not do this we have to if somebody you if you’re not intent to move and it’s the you know 2021 2022 housing market and somebody comes to you and
Says you know what your house is worth 500 Grand here’s here’s a million dollars right we’re gonna make you a million dollar offer we’re gonna go over we’re not we’re not getting get this proved by the bank here’s $500,000 cash guess what I’m leaving the neighborhood bye see you that’s what Austin Ford
Would do right Vikings fans I mean they’re scanning Zillow and they’re just looking at home prices and they’re not factoring everything we can lowball them here and oh look they’re not at the top of a culde saac here and look at the HOA fees no cut the [ __ ] we’re not doing that and
Then you’re like oh [ __ ] what are all these uh what are all these surge charges here what’s the we love Marvin Harrison Jr tax what’s the quarterback tax what’s the generational talent that we’re missing out on in the top 10 tax oh [ __ ] yeah uh I can’t afford this he’s
Like you’re right go take the pick that you just traded up for and go talk to uh I don’t know the Jets who are at 10 or go get Brock hey Vikings you want Brock Bowers he’s yours congratulations Brock Bowers gonna play quarterback for you you down there in the slums with the
Broncos and bow Knicks with his rag arm Michael penx who’s a 100 years old and four surgeries I’m not knocking the kid but like that’s you want to play in that sbox I’m sorry maybe Sam darnold and Michael pennx GNA win the playoff game that’s the biggest you just trash
The kid you’re like I’m not knocking him his rag arm and then he’s 104 years old but other than that all due respect Michael P in his early 30s isn’t that true I’m a bad person let’s get to these super chats libertarian Sasquatch not as optimistic as some $1.99 I’ve accepted
This will just be in Arizona what if the Marvin Harrison Jr like what if they what if they selected him yeah I hope not man it’s a long list it’s a long list of uh Adrian Peterson Adrian Peterson comes I mean you just look to the Cardinals franchise you could look
Across the board it it’s just a it it’ll uh it’ll take your breath away when you think about it you know the the Arizona Valley Sports landscape of what ifs uh Charlie we love that Charlie’s here every day I wome I hope he sticks around after the draft yeah he’s he’s
Just sitting there he he’s Charlie from uh it’s always sunny he’s got the the corkboard and he’s got the strings and he’s trying to get Marvin Harrison Jr to La wearing a Chargers uniform that baby blue uh Charley Sinclair 199 Super Chat Marvin Harrison senior’s first TD was
From Harbaugh of course he wore the wild I didn’t uniform back in the day I I we’d have to fact check it I’m sure before uh before pton Manning was was throwing passes in Indie it was it was Jim Harbaugh then Harbaugh went to the Chargers right after that Circle but his
Son’s coming to Arizona Charlie we hope we pray ill adre $199 this franchise needs a break draft Marvin Harrison Jr period And I think that that you can’t overstate that enough ill right it’s one thing to team build and you can still build a team without extra first round
Picks teams do it every year Ravens don’t have multiple firsts every year they hit on every dra draft pick be smart like them but here’s what I will say this town is a football town when this team is huming and there’s nothing that can reinvigorate this town like
Marvin Harrison Jr there’s no prospect that can do it I agree let me get your thoughts on this because you you’ve had some interactions with Monty and you we’ve heard him talk quite a bit and you talk to him more than I do yeah but I
Wanted to get your thoughts on this as far as do you think that he he buys into that like ultimately yes I think so I do I think that’s a real thing because I think they were at the home games last year and I know winning cures all and
Marvin can help you win I mean the Niner game last year Cowboys game last year hell the Seahawk game last year I mean you you want to return State Farm Stadium to prominence with this franchise number 11 would get people into the seats hell Patrick pet what did
You just call him number 11 Larry Fitzgerald oh I’m sorry I thought you were talking about Marv as number I mean I would give him number 11 you I Haven backed off that but I think I think again it’s the shields argument the Dick Sporting Goods argument we got K1
Jerseys and Buddha jerseys we need a a a sex Hollywood jerse on discount Big Time discount my son came up to me the other day he was like Dad you were right I should have gotten a Trey McBride but I wanted the Hollywood Jersey I’m like sorry no exchanges wear it You Gotta
Wear It You Gotta Wear It With Pride did you see somebody posted on Twitter Hollywood Brown hasn’t had a 50 plus yard catch in like four years he’s such a big play receiver he’s got a leite speed that’s nuts yard catch since he was with the
Ravens why even have him on your team look Casey is convinced that they’re gonna unlock him everybody’s calling in a bargain deal I hope it works out for him puts in the work but it was cheap but yeah like he’s getting paid less per year than Kendrick Bourne who got a
Three-year deal which is crazy but can’t that’s the biggest thing he’s not healthy not body’s breaking down because he’s I mean this is when you’re smaller you get you break down right take shots from guys I mean it’s what Happ around down more you play against these big
Physical Corners safeties you take a couple hits a game especially with the target share that that you would command as as somebody that’s supposed to be a wide receiver one yeah the wear and tear is is very real did Larry ever Miss games 63 built like a Mac Truck no like
Big people huge ass yeah just huge donk just uh I mean he was well built get Britain golden talking about that thing yeah that’s right that’s right Ben cor this show is off the rails OG Fridays $5 we’re doing MOX Bo and I are gonna do MOX we got fan MOX coming
Up both talking about Fitz’s ass Damon dog called into Miss okay Miss Cleo the psychic and just asked her about drafting mhj easy problem solved is Miss Cleo still around I’m not sure I don’t think so I think she got taken down but if you if you were like me you grew up
At the time I did I’m sure Ben did as well like you us watch Comedy Central and you it was past midnight it was Miss Cleo every other commercial I wouldn’t even know how to get my parents’ credit card to do that though well well you’ll give them your
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Harrison Jr here in the desert just hit that like on this video a a like equals uh good mojo to get Marv to the desert how about that here is some good mojo how about a 1999 Super Chat from our guy he’s a silver fox uh love this down
Payment for that fourth rounder boys uh yeah the down payment is uh basically your entire draft for the next two years would be my down payment for the fourth overall pick Silver Fox we appreciate the Super Chat and the support on that level I’m gonna be I’m gonna be real
With you is there any package that would suffice Cardinal fans you open up Twitter one morning and the Cardinals have traded the pick is there any package that you could think of where Cardinal fans are excited about uh that it’s just it was The Godfather deal that
Yeah just like man I love Marvin Arison JR this is a great deal for Monty Austin for is there any is there any deal that you can think of that that would transpire like the fourth fourth overall pick down payment that our guy Silver Fox is alluding to I mean is if there
Was a path and there is to getting back into the top eight maybe I think def do that on draft day that would that’s that’s the thing like we’re that’s the only thing I think that would truly ease Cardinal Minds like as far as the draft package like I don’t
Know if there’s enough Capital that that people like you said would see it on their timeline and say ah this doesn’t make me feel uneasy or or take this thing off of losing out of Marv away Tony saying not a single one Johnny Zer saying for the Casual fan none I I agree
With that like I here Ben alludes to something I think a lot of people would attest to if it had Justin Jefferson in it which isn’t happening in the contract and the the Vikings you know inab to trade them want to trade him but it would have to include a star player but
Like the Giants have nobody you would want the Vikings aren’t trading any they you know Elite offensive Personnel I don’t think the Cardinals want draft picks so let’s take YouTube users got one that he feels would be uh let’s see yes trade down two spots we get an extra
Second and third so not a trade with the Vikings but one with the Giants I think that that would be one that you could stomach and you can continue to do the mo draft where in where you you could either get Marv somehow or you could get
Yourself one of the top three no doubt about it I like this from Marvin Harrison Jr jumping in in the chat I am him I’ve been him uh I’m the Huli I’m the hulat huk 2 doctor got my DNA results turns out I’m 100 Himalayan did you see the video I think
Cards update good follow on Twitter great follow uh posted on or maybe it was K1 since day one one of the two good follows regardless on Twitter it was Marvin senior and Marvin Harrison Jr at maybe Ohio State’s pro day and they got interviewed by NFL Network and the guy
Was just like where you guys been and then like it was kind of weird because Marvin senior talked 90% of the time and Marvin said like one sentence and I’m just like is it kind of weird that his dad’s like always around does that concern you at all no even on camera
Though he can’t like this dude’s gonna be the top be a top five pick and sign a big contract it’s just this pre-draft process I just think things are things were weird with Kyler in the pre-draft process and once you get once these guys sign their deals uh they become Prof
Like official professionals I know it’s different now because you got n nil but I think it’s such you’re walking on eggshells all draft season and I think that he’s just trying to help him navigate it and then once it becomes a pro and youve got you know different people like the organization provides
You with with you know a media team and all that stuff so I also think is yeah it’s nothing’s wrong I don’t think anything’s wrong with it Marvin don’t get me here’s what I do think I think his dad is the reason why he’s not participating in the pre-draft process
So his dad with the encouragement of him not doing these things feels like okay if you’re going to take the brunt of it like I’ll Stand and be there side by side and that I do respect he’s not saying like go and take this on the
Teeth yourself like if he was having a conventional off seon like Caleb Williams going to the Pro Day speaking of the combine like he’s gonna have to do all that by himself so if he gets drafted by the Cardinals and it’s Marvin Harrison Senior up there filled most the
Questions then I’m like okay Bo’s like trying to at the opening press conference and he’s like hey hey because Marv senior calls Marvin Harrison Jr do you think we’re going to call him Junior in Arizona uh I mean there was Fitz and there was big fits oh that’s true yeah
Lot of fits lot of lot of Juniors I think I think Marv senior is his kind of his agent of sorts he doesn’t have a real agent defitely they’re just trying to get to the Finish Line I think yeah draft but you’re like to my point like if if
Friday day two of the NFL draft and we get to talk to Marvin Harrison Jr before uh the rest of the draft gets going and it’s Marv senior up there fing all the questions like okay no way that would never happen no it’s not it’s not gonna
Happen that’s what I’m saying it’s gonna end at that time uh you know it’s not going to end our mock drafts they’ll go on forever and ever uh we’re gonna do some fan mocks here in a little bit but Bo had the bright idea of doing h a mock
Draft just he and I and Damon dog uh part of our uh ongoing series with Empire our friends at Empire today that’s right building your future Empire today it’s the mock draft 2024 presented by Empire today carpet and flooring now Bo we wanted to do one from the
Perspective of what the Vikings or the Giants or both what what were your thoughts on this let’s do one of each and let’s just get through the first three rounds of each how about that okay all right well where this this is this is going to be one of these situations in which
We’re GNA have to come to a conclusion fairly quickly if we’re going to get through two mocks uh as big boys and decide exactly what we want to do so let me know when you can see my gentlemen are you gonna say yeah I can see it
Looks great um how about this public versus PFF board uh that’s that’s your one kind of Saving Grace if you’re our boy Trevor syca we’re not do we’re not doing this Jaden Daniels fall into the third round we’re doing the public board baby that’s the public meaning the NFL this is the
NFL board all right ready this let’s click on the cards let’s go three rounds which one you want to do here you want to do uh cards trade down potentially Giants first Giants first all right yeah so we’re going to start slow here we’ve got um starting the draft Caleb going
First Drake May going second and then of course oh geez Marvin Harrison Jr going third to the Patriots wow that’s shocking get out of this draft you’re trying to do two drafts today I got to start back on the homepage get back to the simulator that’s that’s
Terrible is it though well do I need to go over a little that’s not happening it’s not happening well call up Trevor and tell Trevor that we got a big problem one more time all right we’re trying again Caleb Drake JJ McCarthy third okay all right so perfect so you
Got Drake may he slid and you got two teams that are like hell yeah let’s get up let’s get the quarter back out of North Carolina so what Johnny’s got on the screen for our podcast liter right now is four for six and then you’re throwing in their second and third round
Picks so they’re gonna give both day two picks up to for the right to get here’s what I tell it’s not gettleman here’s what I tell the New York flunkies there you’re welcome here’s your franchise quarterback Drake or Jaden Daniels who they love by the way you’re gonna get him for pennies on
The dime we’re hooking you up and we have to pass on Marvin as a result we’re offering this trade you better accept it and they do of course they accept that trade because it’s the it’s the best move they can make for their franchise so of course now they have an
Opportunity to take Jaden Daniels and then oh wow Roma duny goes to Jim Harbaugh at pick five bu Brock let’s just count our lucky stars here that’s right it’s easy Monty Austin Fort sprinting to the podium is this the best deal of all time yeah probably so we have eight is it
Eight top 100 picks we 27 35 47 66 70 71 and 90 Johnny Newton any uh any concern as far as his Medicals or you just continue to beef up the defensive line no no no no no no we know what to do we’ve done this a few times um Jordan Morgan
Slipping into the first round you love to see that for our guy Damon dog uh TJ Tampa thankfully off the Temptation board for Bo Darius Robinson sweet baby Darius leaves right before the Cardinals pick I think you go best interior offensive lineman here gentlemen I don’t want to say if you’re off ball
Linebacker right Zack Frasier interior Center can play a little bit of guard uh I think this is the play what do you think always played his Center though that’s that’s I know we’re we’re saying that we he can play all these different positions I don’t know that for sure I
Do I know for sure you got broswell who would be you know a bigger defensive end potentially Santa strill corner I I don’t know I think that’s a little early for him uh can you scroll down a little bit with the the prospects remaining him but we just addressed the
Interior of the defensive line Rik Straw from Missouri what are you liking Johnny uh I’m taking an interior offensive lineman okay take Zack Frasier R is under contract for one more year let’s see if he can duplicate the success he had this year this is the best value the Cardinals listen if there
Was a quality tackle i’ take it here um but I think you check all the big three defensive line front s franchise changing receiver and of course an interor offensive lineman and oh by the way we’re back on the clock now at 47 with a lot of the same cast of
Characters gentlemen including Chris BOS broswell that can come in and rush the passer from day one I like broswell or I like uh rraw out of Missouri the corner yeah I’m gonna go front seven here I’m gonna i’mna they haven’t done anything they haven’t done anything they
Were tied to Austin Johnson today which made me a little bit kind of ill what’s his sack numbers looking at robust are they robust he had as many sacks as you and I did for the Chargers last I think we know what to do now with Roswell you’re Charles Johnson you’re
Playing special teams uh Chris broswell is here to take your starting job uh back on the clock here pick 66 oh boy oh this is where you can double dip I saw a mock draft today they had the Cardinals taking Jaylen Wright with their first third grounder I wanted to
Throw up um I’m I’m ready to go offense at receiver or defensive line you tell me what you want look I like Jenkins I like uh I like Kyrie Jackson at the corner position and I don’t have a problem with McMillan so uh so let’s think about this the defensive line
Because we took Johnny Newton in the first round is this good right here is this good is this good I think he your your defensive line rotation it I mean you can pretty much set it and forget it until you have to face any injuries potentially if you get
Dr Jenkins you got Johnny Newton you’ve got the two guys you signed and Nicholls uh you got Dante Stills Justin Jones but I mean I like Kyrie Jackson if you want to start to work on the secondary a little bit but I don’t uhuh okay take the he might still be
Here yeah we can go Kyrie Jackson at 70 now is that your preference yep MC all find some wide receivers down the board here look at McMillan’s slide is he big enough yeah he’s over six feet okay six1 he’s older player he’s a possession receiver so he plays underneath um dominated against
Oregon had a really nice I remember that game against Texas obviously in the um semi wide receivers will you just pull up the wide receivers I I sure can I sure can all right here we go McMillan and then yeah then we fall off a cliff a
Little bit Brendon rice at pick 90 is something to consider the Cardinals had a private visit top 30 visit with Brendan rice uh as did they did Jacob C coow who’s too much like Rondell no thanks Damon so you want to roll the dice potentially at a different position
Here maybe go rice he’s nothing like Rond Del Moore nothing now people are knocking uh cowing size and Damon and I both stood by him and that’s fair yeah but he’s like I did a podcast where Greg dor who’s listed at 5’8 and CO’s bigger than
Greg dorge am I the same height as rondal Moore yes or no haven’t you stood next to Rondell before I want you to tell the people that I’m the same height as Rondell I think you’re the same height yeah nice all right I think we roll the dice on a different position here
Potentially um we’re done though where’s the value yeah you’re right I mean looking at Edge maybe the kid out of KU but I I don’t know enough about him to say definiely the vales F I like that that’s where the value is you got so many picks in the top 100
You’re going to have to splurge a couple times yeah uh Brendan rise has yet to be selected was the right tackle to Joe alz left tackle at Notre Dame and he’s a guy that Jeremiah’s been on record that he really likes as a kind of a guy down the
Board and the Cardinals have the luxury of um of of kind of waiting on him and developing him so here we are at 90 and yeah Brennan rice held out and I think that that’s the play I like it I think it’s a good depth ition he could play
You know backup Wilson at the Z who could potentially miss time and you got a Cita filled up with Larry Fitzgerald Marvin Harrison Senor and Jerry Rice hanging out just watching ball a couple Hall of Fame that be incredible if they flesh out that new garden section in the end zone with Fitz
And a couple all of Famers here so make sure to save this and we’ll put it on Twitter and people can decide what they like between this one and next one I think they’ll like this one but so the trade down many trade down with the
Giants you got a two more day two picks they got their second and their third and Jim Harbaugh and Joe Ortiz they took Roman duny fifth over so Marvin J Harrison Jr Falls in your lap at six Johnny Newton at 27 Zack Frasier the center from West Virginia is your center
Of the future you got with your second round pick your second second round pick you take the edge out of Bama Chris broswell who moved from inside the uh to the edge spot Chris Jenkins National Championship interior defensive lineman from the Wolverines Kyrie Jackson who was a transfer from bamama
Oregon played some BigTime football this season for the Ducks Blake fiser kind of a uh developmental tackle really good tackle y really raw toolsy tackle uh that you can develop and then Brenan rice who also has some room to develop at the wide receiver spot I like it
Count at one two three four five six seven eight picks in the top 90 can you say rebuild complete I think so mock draft complete we’re going to go back here we’re going to go times two this one’s not going to be as pretty I’m just predicting because of uh what may happen
With our friends in Minnesota we’re gonna we’re gonna just tweak this ever so slightly um and we’re going to re-enter this draft and um yeah so listen at the end of the day we have to do a trade with the Vikings they’re at 11 and 23 uh let’s go ahead and start
This mock draft we got Caleb Drake and Jaden going one two3 and now we call up our friends our Frenemies in Minnesota there’s Marv right there on the board and we say no thanks Marvin and uh all right so we start 11 and 23 for four and
Then obviously we got to get the one next year we’re gonna Force this trade by the way and then I think you throwing the is it a is it a 2025 third or is it a third this year do they even have it they’ve got a late
Third they got they’ve got no they have a third this year they got scraps um we need yeah their third next year I think this is this is probably the best we can do right now 108 it’s a fourth you want a fourth and a third we’re not even
Using that pick right now so I guess I’ll just force this trade all right you like any of these guys you what about Nick Mullen is a throw in all right we’re going to we’re going three ones in a third which is what Albright says is the floor for for
Whatever reason we’re settling for the floor we’re resuming this and uh up at pick 11 oh God uh Mar J somehow falling to 10 Dallas Turner joal faga neighbors you imagine if you’re that close he’s sliding and you’re just like oh my God it’s gonna
Happen this is ugly right here and um I don’t know Byron Murphy thei probably yeah probably Byer Murphy um other position I would say is the cornerback so this is this is the problem with trading down to 11 this is the big issue is because you’re outside
Of like the the premium Talent uh in in this draft now it looks a little bit better when you’re sitting here at 23 and you’ve got you know jpj and you got latu um you got Mims even potentially who’s in Mitchell uh from Texas down the
Board I I think you you you consider jpj or latu here yeah that was going to be my recommendation I would probably go lot to just based on position value but here’s the problem and a lot of people have been pushing back on this and I agree you’re GNA take a bunch of
Defenders in an offensive Rich draft you know but if that’s how the Boward Falls you look look how the top 10 went offense offense offense offense offense offense offense offense defense offense like you go to 11 you’re signing your death certificate that you’re going to not have great offensive players to pick
From and then you get scraps at the end of of outside the 20s I mean it’s or outside of the teens I we’re going lotu here but it’s I don’t like it but it’s just the best player at at the best position of value yeah now you’re looking at it I
Think Mitchell might be your best bet out of Texas the wide receiver Don Mitchell um I hate this mock already it’s tough he’s got good size you know he you watch his highlights you can kind of get yourself into it I heard he could potentially be the best route Runner in
The draft I saw someone push back and say lad was though but I think did you just straight up take him yeah I thought you were telling me to take yeah I thought we were talking through it but it’s okay no we’re not we’re not I
Already hate this mock I want it to be done um might as well take TJ Tampa here at 35 jerk are are you in the same spot where you you passed on jpj do you take Zack Frasier here yeah I think so so now you
Get your you got a D I mean the player if you added Marv to this group it’d be a hell of a group but you don’t have Mar I agree I think that’s that’s what my point was like you’re passing on him I I think that that’s you’re putting yourself behind the
Eightball might as well just take Jonathan Brooks here and complete the trifecta just hat no let not just torpedo this thing people say they hate it but we can’t you want to just take Jenkins after you took do we took Byron Murphy the second didn’t we yeah do you want to
Go another white outs you can go white out at 71 here the devontes Walker you want to take him here I think you have to take another white out early look at the other white outs before you take TZ Walker yeah because you can you can wait I think we
Could wait a little bit and get cor or rice you got you got a pick in four selections so you’re good so we took Frasier right so we’re good there interior don’t have a tackle yet there’s nobody available penx just went uh what do we got here I mean yeah it’s you guys
Decide double down on defensive line I mean Jenkins profiles differently than than yeah they could compliment each other I told you what Walker was going though um wait you think now now we’re in a tough spot going in tier offensive line again with Christian Hayes uh no you only got so many spots
There take like a Blake Fisher Max Melton Max Melton let me do it yeah you want to sabotage this thing anyway yeah diversity in this mock from the first one uh man brutal I guess you got to go Brendan rice right or Trey Benson oh yeah let’s just do that let’s
Just put a bow on this mock I mean like this really kind of emphasizes like the Vikings trade is not like there are a lot of scenarios in which it could be bad it it makes like I I don’t mind the first two picks but then you’re the
Entire just complexion of the draft class is watered down your momentum is gone you don’t have momentum are pretty good like you think about yeah I mean I think you you could talk yourself in the Mitchell you can watch the highlights you can gas them up all
You want but I mean you’re gonna see from the the draft we just did with a min mini trade down or one where you stick and pick Marv and you’re going to see all those charts like as far as uh what value gained and how it’s going to
Turn into wins and and all those different charts that come out of after the draft and I think you’re still going to be significantly better with Marvin Harrison Jr being your fourth overall selection gross get this mock out of here I can’t even look at it anymore um
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Around Friday it is we’re effing around with some fan mock drafts that I guarantee will be better than a lot of mock drafts I saw from some quote professionals here in the local and National media let’s check it out Bo Brock get it started all right Damon
Let’s fire it up let’s fire up the fan mock drafts let’s go with our friend our solo who’s in the uh member Discord um dropping some fire he’s going uh this is a trade down looks like he traded down with the Denver Broncos we don’t like to
Give our friends over dmvr nice things um but we are in this case and you’re getting a a pick swap and you’re getting a 2025 first and a 2025 second still not enough for for me but Malik neighbors lasts on the board until 12 you get a
Tackle the future and Tyler gon at 27 you got Byron Murphy the second lasting on the board until 35 Chris brazwell who he just took a couple times 66 Brendan dorles the defensive lineman versatile player out of Oregon he’s 71st you get the guard out of Boston College and Christian mAh
And then you got DJ D James the corner out of the SEC and Auburn 90th overall what do we think on a five Monty scale from one to the full monty Johnny what are you giving it I actually think this is pretty good because of Malik Neighbors at 12 not realistic
Necessarily so I have to ding him there I would go three and a half monties out of five the Broncos have been inept for the better part of 10 plus years they have not made the playoffs since they made the Super Bowl in 2016 and I don’t
Think they’re going to get there even with a first first round quarterback the roster is terrible so I actually like where those picks project next year um and I really like Tyler gon so I I give that three and a half out of five uh I’m
Gonna be a little tough for greater here one I don’t want to tra I I hardly want to trade down to 11 with the Vikings let alone trade with the Broncos at 12 and then to see the hall I I don’t I just don’t like the deal to start uh and then
As far as realism like you said neighbors got Titan Murphy like those next three picks I mean obviously tremendous value for all those because I don’t think either one of those guys I think they’re well below their draft slot so but good picks I just I’m gonna
Give it a a I’ll give it a three three Monty three Monty we got Don up next B Don sent this in last week we didn’t do a mock draft fan Friday last week because I was out of the the states and uh it was crazy time with the Vikings
Making the the trade to get up to 23 so Don’s back this week this is what he’s got going on he’s going chalk and I love these players I can already tell it’s G be one of my favorite mics that we do mhj at for four hello Jon Newton at 27
Jackson pow Johnson Xavier Legette tandre sweat Blake fiser five out of five this is beautiful this is one of my favorite mocks that anybody’s ever done as it relates to sticking and picking how this board fell for you I don’t know but if this happened if I could sign up
For this right now this would be my preferred draft for the Arizona Cardinals Xavier Legette I sent both some Advanced metrics on him today he’s being slept on under Valu Jackson Powers Johnson projects as as the next Mike aati S type of interor offensive lineman Jan nton darnold do at 2.0 tandre sweat
A little bit of defensive line depth and Blake fiser can play right or left tackle can be a nice uh project complimentary swing player the only position you didn’t get Edge rusher can’t fill them all love this draft so you’re giving it the full monty
Not like that one I like it as well four and a half monties for me uh it’s tough to get a perfect perfect one but as you said the edge position we’re looking for it but our guy Donnie mock drafts knocking it out of the park how about
Reezy baby reezy baby jumping in Damon dog with this mock draft uh here it is he went the distance uh pulling off the trade with the Vikings he gets 1123 a fourth rounder a future first and then a future fourth for the Cardinals fourth overall selection and a fifth
Rounder he slides down to 11 takes Byron Murphy the second Jackson Powers Johnson 23rd lot to a 27 pulling off another trade uh to get back up into the first round with the Ravens he gets pick 30 takes ad Don Mitchell so he’s starting to address the wide receiver position
There then he’s pulling off another trade uh looks like he’s trading with the dolphins he’s going to get another second rounder uh back be the one he traded away to Baltimore and going to get back in there he’s gonna take Kyrie Jackson the corner out of Oregon he’s
Gonna get Brendan rice in the third round Patrick Paul a tackle out of Houston in the third round Bo limmer a center out of Arkansas played some SEC football Dylan Johnson in the fifth round who the Cardinals have had for a top 30 uh visit the running back out of
Washington great personality I don’t know about the game steel Chambers a line at Ohio State and then Dominic Hampton a safety at of udub uh potentially you know the alma of Buddha Baker gonna come play alongside uh husky Legend what do you think about this one
He got a B+ from the PFF Mock Draft simulator what do you think I think it’s another probably three out of five monties for me and steel Chambers you know he and I locked eyes at the combine but he’s uh he’s a scary dude I like the
Depth but again like where’s the the sex appeal to get four or five you got to have that again that’s a very meat and potatoes draft I could see Monty Austin Ford really doing something like that really liking something like that but for our exercise I mean I think you just
Have so many players you’re it’s going to be a productive draft one way or the other but is it going to get you over the hump how much True Value did you get um and right now I this is kind of an unfair stigma that I have I don’t like
Any trade Downs with Minnesota right now I’m just in a bad mood about that so I’m gonna go three out of five there all right I’ll give it a three and a half uh really trenches driven uh Murphy which is where the Cardinals want to winj latu uh really rebuilding that
Defensive front seven outside of jpj all right let’s go to our friend uh who who else we got is this Ray yeah Ray emailed me this love it Ray this is another trade down situation very similar uh this is similar to the draft we did when
The the day that the Vikings pulled off the deal so 11 uh you get 112 three and a a future first in the Vikings get a the fourth overall pick Johnny Newton latu Graham Barton The Versatile offensive lineman at a Duke to round out your first three first rounders then you
Go Troy Franklin Xavier Legette start to address the wide receiver position back-to-back picks the big mountain of man tandre sweat my guy Max Melton in the third round 90th overall Trey Benson the running back out of Florida State tight U out of Iowa is is Eric all is
That his name yeah did he even go to the combine I I I don’t even remember him James Williams uh safety out of the U neamiah pritet who had a top 30 visit with the Cardinals Auburn corner and then Jaylen green out of James Madison
In Edge B+ from PFF what do you give it Johnny uh I give it a three out of five Monty as well again same kind of cast of characters but I love the first four picks five picks maybe six picks maybe three I’m I’m not being generous now
Probably three and a half monties again like latu Jeron Franklin those are all favorites of M Legette mixed in there sweat so I’ll go three and a half it’s it’s hard to get in to the four or five range even with a bunch of picks when
You’re not locking in an elite in the top 10 a Malik an ALT a obviously a Marvin Harrison Jr so for me it’s like lot of good depth today but not a lot of gold St MOX right now but here’s what I will say a lot of people are playing by
The rules and I respect that they’re playing by the rules of of trading down and that’s what’s being driven by these reports with Minnesota so I understand it I’ll give a two and a half Monty the I like Legette just as much as you do uh
You don’t you don’t I do uh you’re sending me Legette pornography in my DMs like this guy’s generation you know type stuff and it’s it’s a little embarrassing at this point but okay um and a half it’s tough but like it’s a it’s a tough grading scale with the
Trade down um and it’s just going to go off of whether or not I I like it or not so we’ve gotten through are we at Rudy or are we at Dean Leman all right Rudy Rudy uh I don’t know if it’s the same Rudy that jumped
In with a super chat today but if it is thank you five monties F you’re already calling this thing a five Monty draft huh Marvin Harrison Jr fourth overall then your Damon’s a lad’s lad so he’s going back-to-back wide receivers you get strikes from me for that Braden Fisk
In the second round Christian Haynes with your first of three third rounders tandre SWAT Brendan rice then getting another interior defensive lineman Dwayne Carter Jos Newton the corner out of TCU Drake nent H center from Michigan Jaylen green who we saw just before an edge from James Madison and then a
Running back Isaiah Davis what do we think Johnny I need a cigarette after that mock draft good Lord three receivers in the top 90 I will go three and a half monties by positional value um because I don’t I’m not a lad makoni guy okay if that was somebody
Different it was that if that was maybe a Troy Franklin at 27 I gotta think there’s got to be a better option than lad makoni after you just take Marvin at that’s that’s the reason for your strike is I don’t like lad makoni can I just come out and say
It at this point your actions are proving you hate him yeah you do lad lad MC practice squad I can’t wait for lad makoni to be an all pro and Johnny is’s gonna have to eat his words uh I but I don’t like the three wide receivers like I know there’s
There’s a need uh but you got that need filled at the top of your draft from Marvin Harrison Jr UMC like it’s just like getting your name right on the SATs you get it automatic two and a half stars for Marvin Harrison Jr and the
Rest of the way so I’m going to give it a three Monty mock draft what blows you away about la Moni he’s 6 foot 185 he’s already 22 years old his quick twitch his route running smooth he was just he was body bagging people on on the field in Mobile put me
In a body bag if the Cardinals take him in 27 especially if they if the Cardinals don’t get Marvin and then that’s the first receiver they draft I don’t know if I can continue with this show that might be it for your boy but you act like lad makoni played in the
Mac or something like he was his Pro Comp is Elijah Moore what does that do for you he was the best receiver on the most talented team in the country no Brock Bowers was as much as I hate Brock Bowers Brock Bowers what’s this next mock had one 100 yard receiving game at
In Georgia isn’t that great I’m oh my God all right let’s get de Leman give me this one I bet it’s going to be a Banger b let’s see it jpj Darius Robinson Brandon dless Max Melton brenon rice four and a half Monty’s out of five again three bangers
To start bang bang bang Darius friend PR I think it’s I think it’s arguably I like this one the best I’m gonna give it four Monty it’s it’s really good it’s really good especially if Darius Robinson can play off the edge in certain packages like then you get my
Only concern a little bit is like Max Melton you know how I feel about him but again any situation which you start draft weekend with Marvin and you end day two with Brendan rice good hell I’ll go four and a half give fish give me fishes mock let’s take a look at it
Let’s go a little bit more rapid fire here fish Marvin Harrison Jr Chris brazwell at the back end of the first round Kool-Aid Fallen to 35 Blake fiser tandre sweat Brendan rice I don’t like Kool-Aid as much as other people I will say he looked good
At his prod day uh he looked really good 4S yep think you get Kool-Aid at the back at the top of the second after him being a projected top 10 pick all year I do think he’s being undervalued now I will go four out of five again Monty’s
Here I like Blake fiser I like sweat Brendan rise I still think at some point you may want to take another defensive lineman but that’s four out of five solid I see one uh definitive starter out of your first four picks and I’d say that’s a three Monty draft there’s good
Guys that project with Kool-Aid in brazwell and Brenan rice but they’ve got to develop all right let’s go to our last one here uh who’s this from Kevin pulled off the deal this is my guy Kevin by the way oh this is your boy Lord Campbell he already didn’t get he
Already didn’t get enough in his in his deal with the Vikings so I’m already a little upset Byron Murphy Don Mitchell Graham Barton enus Rik straw Jr Marshon nean is a different name that I haven’t seen an edge of Western Michigan Jaylen McMillan Brandon dorles Kyrie Jackson Marshon Lloyd Bo limmer the offensive
Lineman out of bam or Arkansas Nelson Caesar an edge out of Houston and then bub means what a name wide receiver at Pittsburgh how are you bub hey Bubby that’s what PE my parents used to call me I was little Bubby b means wide receiver at Pittsburgh with your final
Pick bub is gonna be working at the Circle K down the street facility butong with that nothing wrong with that all NFL all NFL name I’m Doctor Strange in Avengers Infinity War one one Monty one Al that’s a one put Kevin’s back up there that’s disrespectful I like Kevin I’m giving him a
One man that’s your boy Damon I know you’re going to come to this fence what how many monties you g for I mean he got four starters at minimum that’s not too bad right I mean you got grah Barton he’s you know your left guard probably I
Think your first four picks are guys that are going to buy for starting positions so I mean I’ll go it’s not the best uh the trade isn’t great uh I’ll go I’ll go two and a half I’m gonna go mid trade Thea is he a Vikings fan will you
Ask if he’s a fan of the Vikings no he’s aard he’s a listener of this podcast a regular one loyal one and you’re just I do like a bad person I’m sorry yeah take your grade up one and a half that that draft Capital that’s not
Enough it’s not enough well he he thinks our second one sucked and he can say that just because it’s a safe place for us all who made that M draft Kevin yeah Kevin you’re a dear dear friend of this program we will try again next week we
Will get a new one from you and we will try again Marshon nean comparison uh zarius Smith oh okay I’m GNA start calling Damon bub I think hey Bub hey bub I like that hey BB man we’re just we’re having a banner time here it’s been a it’s been a hell
Of a week here on PHX Cardinals and uh the party never stops frankly I go phx.com become a Die Hard pick up a free hat Andor shirt every single year you are a Die Hard the member Discord was popping today all week you got exclusive highlights Clips somebody edited in the
The spike man foot like the the scene where Johnny described if if they move off of Marvin Arison Jr where they where they like crowd surf his body out of there because he’s he’s just completely like tattered and beaten from trying to save the city they put Johnny’s head on it there it
Is that’s why that’s the stuff you’re missing out in the member Discord the the fun continues uh the only way that you can get get in there is uh coming a die hard today just go phx.com join the fun it never stops IT L like Cardinal conversation I’ll be like sitting in my
Bed it’ll be after midnight I’ll just go on the Discord and start ramping off thoughts into The Ether I’ll think Into The Ether and then like people will respond it’s just it’s a it’s a great place to be a Cardinal fan a bunch of other sickos like Johnny that are up at
2 am just thinking about the draft all night uh Super Chat get a response you get on Twitter and you just rip off a couple thoughts like they could just be into the void like you do it in the Discord people at least respond it’s a
Safe space it is Twitter is not a safe space and I know that going in our our discord’s very safe Johnny venerable uh$ 499 youi and Bo or blow we’re supposed to start the phnx Cardinals smoke Fest like 20 minutes ago is here tripping uh
Is he here tripping off 4 Gs and Four Peaks like always I’m gonna tell you right now that sounds like a hell of a Friday night my family would like me to order Papa John’s instead shny marille so I don’t I don’t know if that’s happening that that
Could be like a you know we get Marvin the night of the uh first round of the NFL draft and and we’re all hanging out having a good time into the wi hours as I’m cranking out my two round mock draft at go phx.com I don’t know if that’s
Happening today my dude Super Chat no phnx Cardinals smokefest uh we have to reschedule it’s after the draft uh Charlie Sinclair honestly you think think mhj would rather play for harbs or ganet I don’t think he cares well I here’s what I would say Charlie Paris Johnson Jr is a big fan of
Jonathan Ganon and I would imagine his his say has like a lot of of weight and Merit to I you would rather play for Ganon that’s an honest answer I think it’s the NFL and you play for any coach that drafts you and it’s not College
Where you get recruited and get to pick which coach you want to play for but I think as far as relatability I think Jonathan Ganon relates to players a little bit more and and that’s not a knock on Hardball it’s a it’s a tough question honestly and you
Know Hardball obviously he’s backed it up even during his NFL days he what was it three of four n or NFC conference championships his team was in it uh great coach um we’ll see if there’s anything as far as he’s he’s been gone for nine years so we’ll see he’s gonna
He’s gonna win but he’s an intense guy and I mean I I do think Marvin is going to land in a great spot for him regardless of which team drafts himt I mean right that’s the hard that’s the harder question to answer as a Cardinals fan right I mean who you who
Would you rather be catching passes from for the next half decade yeah because I think Jim and JN both have enough wherewithal to say like let’s get Marvin the ball like they’re not whereas like I mean Herbert’s been the better thrower of the football in terms of like total
Yards and then Kyler is probably much more of a prist ision passer and Herbert’s been better recently but Kyler Murray I think is going to have his best year as a proos so you get to play in Los Angeles or Arizona as compared to New York right now and that QB Wasteland
The Patriots like Marvin’s gonna be fine wherever he’s going yeah he’s he’s gonna be in a good spot he doesn’t have to go to those uh I mean Chicago’s in a good spot but Washington still trying to figure it out New England’s got a long way to go uh
It’s been a great week we got a little punch Shunk here at the end of it we’ve been just sifting through trade rumors and and potential trade down s after that some sweat going Damon just threw his phone in the trash by accident got did you win $700 yesterday Damon I never
Asked you I did nice wow that was a big win Big W I’m going to the GCU watch party tonight you see me out there at GCU Arena say hi uh otherwise enjoy the rest of the uh the madness check out uh go phx.com become a die hard and uh if
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18 Comments
I think the Cardinals should go for 6 first-round picks and 9 second-round picks. There you go.
Can't wait!!! Regardless what route we take in the draft can't come soon enough I will have to get the newest madden on pre order just to see the roster ahead of time 😂
Say the same thing every Day !!! Let's talk about pick #27 now.
Your not ALLOWED to wear cargo shorts!!?? Real Men never say that thier wife doesn't allow them to dress a certain way. I have been happily married for 30 years, and my wife would never attempt to tell me what to wear, as long as its not something with inappropriate art, language, etc. I wear whatever the hell I want to wear.
Realistically I would take their pick swap and one first as well as the first next year and either their 3 this year or a 2nd next year. Each one has consequences.
However the offer that would blow me away would be 4 firsts and I would say yes immediately.
Lastly if we do trade down though then we need to trade back up to say somewhere like 8 give them a 3rd and the 11th pick. Then we can still get someone like odunze or nabers, or if we get super lucky then maybe mhj
Wish I could show my mock draft
Johnny dawg!!!
Vikings, take best CB at 11 and take Bo box at 23… dude looks like a better player and is a smart dude. Watch his latest interviews and his pro day.
NO NO NO NO NO No no JOBO!!!!! Love you guys, but you’ll never convince me to trade down over sticking and picking MHJ
Look everyone i know your desperate to trust monti ossenfort but curb you enthusiasm a bout him he just completed his first year as a gm. i'm sure you all like monti because he isn't keim i like him too but i'm not going to start trusting him till he turns us in to a consistent winner.
I stopped taking this video serious when he said JJ lacks arm strength & compared him to Mac Jones 😂😂😂
We don’t need a QB wtf
#4 pick does not get you what you are hoping for. #3 does. Go ahead and take your WR, you are not getting 3 #1's for 7 spots and JJ.
Koc and kwesi weren't there because they have a private workout today or tomorrow with him
If monti can get 11, 23, and 2025 1st, he’ll probably do it. Then he would use one of the 3rd round picks to move back up to grab Odunze or Nabers. He’s not afraid to navigate up/down the board.
This was a horrible mock draft, restarting the mock was already a sin but yall are delusional homers
What the Vikings have to offer, isn't good enough. This is a good draft class, but those blue chip guys will be gone by pick 11. Also the picks that you get next year will not be as good as this year's picks. Vikings will not be as bad next year, and the cards shouldn't be that bad either. Cardinals opportunity to get that franchise player is now.
Seriously ?? JJ lacks arm strength ? Did you watch any of his games ? Any team that drafts JJ will be getting the best overall QB in the draft. All this talk about Williams, Daniels, and Maye is confusing.. those are the 3 media darlings.. lol.. JJ will have the best career out of all the QB's in this draft.
NC State isn't that bad yall