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Welcome to part two we’re just waiting for Terry to uh to join us it shouldn’t be too long uh so it is what it is parang we all losing our minds over it aren’t we T’s not impressed by Parker though is he shocked me that shocked me here we go there’s

Terry I’m just saying Terry you’re not impressed by Joseph Parker no I’m not never have been yeah all right getting back to Crusher uh what about Chris Conga Michael mckinson they never got a chance for him did they no because that was it was never

The plan Russ was it the plan was to incubate Baby Ben until he got to a point where he could fight Eubank Junior they were hoping Eubank could still hold 154 but Eubank kept growing I kept fighting at 168 160 and so Conor had to

Get to 160 right that’s why they did it at 157 they had to get there somehow and that had always been the offramp for Conor Ben’s career fight Eubank junr twice make all your money disappear and become a celebrity that’s why Connor is doing all of this

To protect his image because he really wanted to do stuff outside of boxing and I don’t think that’s going to happen now because of his reputation yeah his reputation’s down the toilet now a it really badly M and that’s what happens when when you disrespect the fans and

You assume the fans are stupid you pay heavy price you think he’ll regret trying to bit Mayweather of Britain you know with roller and Watchers and the the uh paded steering wheel nonsense all all that you think you’ll regret rubbing people’s noses in it no but we want we want our Champions

To be that right we can’t complain about people being corporate and media trained and then when they do stuff wood all yeah you see all these guys that that pretend to be humble and stuff no look you’re a young man with a ton of money go and buy Rolls-Royce do you know what

I mean yeah go go and buy the house do all of that stuff because that’s when you’re meant to do it Russ yeah yeah do you think it’s a sad shame how it’s ended up for Crusher then no because we only really thought of Conor Ben in terms of Chris Eubank Jr

Right that’s the only fight we we we didn’t get then what other fights can we think of that oh my God we’re not going to see Conor bur versus person X there aren’t any because all roads led to Eubank Jr you think that fight is done forever Terry

Now nah there’s too much money in it like if someone were to put it on in Saudi it would happen I guarantee it would happen next but I don’t think it’s that big oh yeah it’s only big here like it it would have to happen here it would have to happen in the

Summer and you could probably get a stadium now I don’t know which one would do it maybe the Emirates could do it I mean just get something like that well it’s all a bit of a mess but uh it’s why we love the sport Russell this is why we love the sport so

Much Johnny uh speaking of uh bean bean Rides Again he’s all action I’m I’m glad to have him back mate like in his absence who’s really stepped up yeah Bean did say explore over Avenues didn’t he he’s ended up commentating on boxing I I I think he could go anywhere and he

Would be the lead commentator on any channel because he’s the best at that he is there’s no question about that he’s the best play byplay guy that we’ve got best narrator yeah but all the others kind of flattered to thece me but I’m not impressed what about when he goes into

And he showed me the design for a new tattoo on his elbow it’s going to be a spider web mat but we miss all of that stuff when you find out what you know the kid was like a a Cub Scout or whatever and he got you know three nines in his sets

Whatever it is some random stuff he’s just dug up on the kid you know what about Josh’s Josh warington when we was over in Leeds Johnny and he showed me his stamp book collection he had a penny black may we miss it as much as people

Make fun of Adam Smith we miss Adam Smith in boxing about Josh Taylor and there we went up to see Josh Taylor he’s got a lovely home and the Motorcraft bike and he did a wheelie by me and Johnny didn’t he Johnny what about when he were on ringside and

He told that story to Larry Holmes about when he got his dictaphone and he went back to school in January after holidays and he were going around playground talking into his dictaphone going down goes frasia down goes Fraser you know all that to come out with like that brave is

It yeah listen remember that yeah I I want I want Adam Smith back and I want ringside back I know he’s enthusiastic we’ll give him that won’t we all Bean hey that name will stick with forever won’t it now Bean oh my God I don’t even know where it came from me but

Why I called him it I got all the names that mate you know that oh my God you like you like Bean though don’t you yeah I think think I’m my thing in boxing is this are you stopping someone else from shining if the answer is yes then I have

An issue with it if the answer is no then I just say carry on everyone had like what was it a year a year and a bit to make us forget Adam Smith and they couldn’t do it yeah uh man of the moment Sam Jones is here is there he’s

Everywhere he’s everywhere he pal is me pal is me pal he not a pal of mine what happened to him that pan mine yesterday and day before Terry what were going on oh Jesus Christ like a I think I tweeted it and I said Sam Jones has made me an Eddie Hearn fan

Because Sam remember back in the 90s you had Pamela Anderson right Pamela Anderson got herself a boob job but her boob job wasn’t anything you hadn’t seen in the real world you see what I mean it was like yeah she’s had them done but it’s like it’s within what we can understand

As human beings yeah and then remember there’s that woman on Euro trash called loo Ferrari yeah and she just went too far us right and they were they were hideous and they were ridiculously big and it it it it was cartoonish and that’s how I feel

When I see Sam Jones next to Eddie Hearn you know Hearn as annoying as Hearn is Hearn kind of normally gets that balance right of being a serious boxing guy being a knob right he gets the balance right more often than not Sam Jones is just an idiot from top

To toe just a just a real idiot just that guy at school that you just drop kick for no reason because you knew he was even if he didn’t say you knew he was thinking something stupid you’re like I’m just gonna kick you in the head anyway and that’s who Sam Jones

Is yeah he’s uh he keeps reminding us don’t you Samuel about your involvement in this deal have you noticed Terry in every interview he reminding everybody that they’re getting paid because of him his mind you know but why are they getting paid because of him way he’s getting his point across on

Man I’m trying to think because he didn’t arrange the first fight did he no and the first fights a direct result well the second fight a direct result of the first fight so I don’t know what he did and one of the quotes I heard was Josh Taylor’s getting his

Bigest payday I’m like no no no no no no no that World Boxing Super Series was washing some serious money through they were throwing money at boxers in that tournament Josh would have made more money in that World Boxing Super Series than he’s done since

Yeah well Sam’s man of the moment is got his moment in the sun he’s just an idiot isn’t he like he’s he’s just an idiot and you know sometimes people say I bet you wouldn’t say it to his face that easy said it to his face make you’re an idiot though he

He’s what a Trier but is he what are his success stories Russ well this is it you see everybody blames him for Joe Joyce don’t they but want a collective uh thing to take the Zang fight they were parked up on it no well you know if you’re this super

Manager your guy shouldn’t be pocked up for a St so what are you doing what are Sam Jones the success stories I don’t know he does a lot of interviews yeah but what fight has gone I wouldn’t be earning this without Sam Jones I haven’t seen one person come out

And say I got to thank Sam Jones for putting money in my pocket Sam will be putting money in his and this is the point right like people will say like boxers whether they work with Hearn or not will say look love working with match room you fight

You get paid right that’s what match are known for you get paid as soon as you done your work you know oh if you want to make some some decent money go to match like there’s nothing about Sam Jones what what what’s his value added nothing man he’s

What he is is he’s one of those fans who think they can do better than everyone else and then they show up and they turn out to be not very good and that’s what he is do you think it’s his fault that Cal Taylor took this long um no I

Think I think realities come home to roost where hernest H Cal I don’t have anything else for you um you know I could put you in with Devon Haney but that doesn’t make economic sense because I gotta pay Deon a lot of money and quite frankly Jack catell you

Suck um so I don’t have many options I could feed you to someone like a Shakur Stevenson but I don’t even think they care about you so you’ve got that problem with Jack cat with Josh Taylor Bob’s gone look I gave you taimo to build this build you

Back up that didn’t work if I feed you to Crawford you’re going to get smoked anyway and so I can’t feed you to Crawford after a defeat if you can beat catell your next fight is Crawford I can guarantee that if Taylor Wins this fight is Crawford and then I don’t think

You’ll see Josh again no n n he’d have done everything he wanted to do in boxing he would have he’d have been Undisputed he’d have fought the guy that was Undisputed before him and was Undisputed in the way class above him um he did share the ring

With a future alltime great I think Crawford will be a future top 10 top 20 guy he’ have done everything in his career that he wanted to do there’d be nothing left to do after that yeah and where will that leave Sam Jones then if cro

Losers ah can someone just leave him in the desert please are we’re going to have all these Sam Jones panine presses from now on yes because he appeals to that kind of small-minded minority you know the sort of people that drink drink far too much Carling in the winter He he’ll appeal to

Those sorts of guys because they love the fact that he just gets on a microphone and says what he wants you know those sort of people who call themselves anti-woke Sam Jones will appeal to those types of guys and you know I’m not saying whether that’s right

Whether that’s wrong I’m just saying it is what it is I I just think he’s insufferable man he just he’s he’s a car crash like yeah he’s a car crash yeah I’m a bit disappointed with Joe Joyce in all that carry on when they were not forcing that letter to wbl

Because the time limit were up W it why did they not enforce it why you know I think the answer is Russ there’s a there’s an agreed order those belts are going to get fought for right so that that’s yeah so the governing bodies have said um it’s the ibf next

Then it’s a WBO and that that had always been the order and all we’re doing now is getting jerked around with rematches and delays and this and that and Fury fighting in ghu and that’s what’s held like remember I said this before just scatter the damn belts yeah just scatter scatter scatter

The belts in every weight class and they start again and let’s have a rule that there will be no unifications ever yeah yeah people all in belts hostage like Fury since Vladimir we’ve had 100 months gone by he’s had 10 fights but he’s not holding his belt hostage

Though cuz he only has one right yeah and he won it in Wilder 2 defended it in Wilder 3 who did he fight after that did he fight dillian after that dillian chisora and then Ono so the dillian one is the one that everyone made noise about like fight him

So he did that and then he said okay I just beat dillian so I’m just gonna have a bit of an easy one fight Derek and then he was offer stupid money to fight ganu but at various points I think he said I’d fight Joshua but who knows what really

Happens I just think they’re all they’re all messing this game about like one person having three belts is not good just scatter the belts um in every way class let everybody just start fighting for B yeah fight for belts get to mandatory that’s it and every Champion gets a mandatory or voluntary or

Mandatary or voluntary and you have to fight twice a year if you’re injured you vacate the belt immediately yeah uh buddy mcer he’s not having a good time of it lately is he he has his Bubble Burst and is he not the go to guy no

More so this is tricky because I spent time around buddy and it’s hard to it’s hard to really Hammer someone you know you know R it’s difficult I will say what’s the problem people are trying to solve by going to Buddy Mur that’s my question what are you

Trying to solve by going to buddy do you know why you’re going there I think a lot of times Brits just go because the name sounds good it’s like when Miguel cot went to Freddy roach Miguel had learned everything he ever needed to know boxing wise I think

He trained you train under like Pedro Diaz or someone like that so he had learned everything he needed to learn all he needed was Freddy to to get his attack sh up get him more attack-minded get him you know being the old Miguel Coto and he just needed a new

Environment that’s all he needed as a trainer you know what did Callum Smith need when he went to Buddy Mur because he’s not boxing like a Buddy mcer Guy um with daniz understand why he ended up with Buddy mcgurt because Brian shess he wasn’t available and had Brian been

Available Dan would have stayed with Brian um but I think a lot of these guys are working with Buddy too late in their career if you’re G to be a buddy MC guy you got to do it from the start is my opinion I I feel this with a lot of

These really good trainers you’ve got to get there early like look ham airz has gone and worked with um the guys at tenus and he’s done that early in his career so he’s more receptive to their ideas like he will be a 10 Goose type guy I don’t know if the

Guys with buy M are going there too late but it seems that way yeah you think that uh Dylan white will come back what would he come back for you only come back for money right yeah um and we still don’t know happened about that positive drug test that he

Had so that we need to know what happened with that and I don’t think he will do any media till that’s resolved deep down he’ll probably fight Joshua and call it a day you think he’ll get a ban he may be serving one now we don’t know like these are the questions we

Need to be asking yeah when’s the last time he fought it’s got to be a year and a half now he’s not fought for a while has it fought Franklin in what October 2022 long time is it yeah yeah so he might go a year and a

Half at his age without fighting it gets hard because of nothing else look at Joshua Joshua just stayed active you know he kept to his word he said I want to be more active and he has been yeah uh light heavyweight division Terry okay yard Smith batti daniz Ben

Whittier can we put Ben Whitaker in with Dan aiz now um you could but I wouldn’t and I’m going to explain why when you’ve got someone like Ben you don’t want to put many miles on the clock right you want all of Ben’s miles to be what just Championship miles

Right so you you want to feed him guys who will help him get to that kind of 12 round distance without crushing his ribs or hurting and I’m not saying Ben can’t uh I’m not saying Ben can’t take the shots he can it’s just taking when you need to take them so fighting

Dan now probably not the best thing for him because Dan’s heavy-handed but there are other guys in that like heavyweight mix you know you and normally smart boxing people will start phoning guys like Andre Sterling um you’d give Matthew Tinker a call at this point and say mate I know we

Offered you down last time but do you want to come and have one last fight in Northwest London for your people and he’d probably do that so I think there are options for Ben that don’t involve Dan but there’ll be a time for him to fight Dan 100% just like there’ll be a

Time for him to fight Boi there’ll be a time for him to fight Yan that’s the fight I’d be more intrigued with actually Ben Whitaker versus Anthony yard I’d be intrigued with that fight would you yeah or would you make a favorite if they fought now um I’d make yard the favorite but

I’d have a 10 on the upset where’s Callum Smith fit into all this now then because nobody seems to beat the drum for him ever do they and he always seems to get good payday R the thing is we don’t know how good he is like that’s what it is we don’t know

How good he actually is so if we’re saying his best win is George Groves that’s a one-armed George Groves who’s after that in the list John Ryder that’s a controversial win you had one arm didn’t he George G for that F didn’t he yeah yeah John Ryder controversial result definitely um

People calling for a rematch on that one so who’s that who’s left Rocky fielding ason and Dam yeah and that Hassen and D was a 160 guy yeah an old guy as well when he got all of him so so you look at Kellum Smith’s record and it’s

Not um it’s not what you think it should be for all the talk of him and who he is what he’s achieved his record doesn’t speak to someone who who really took risks with his career he’s had it off financially a he yeah um give give his team credit for

That because he’s made a lot of money and taken very little risk you know I mean yeah he’s we’ve not really seen him in a firefight have we in a proper om no he tried with pbia but pbia was just too much of everything for him what do you think of that fight

Terry it didn’t make sense um you you had a feeling that Bia would run through Callum Smith um I’ve never believed Callum is this heavy-handed guy that people say he is I just think he’s he’s been lucky his whole career he was just born into the right family

They’ve all done all right job though aren’t they Smiths credit what credits due like I don’t want to see boxers on skid RS you’d say R Us I don’t I want to see them able to live mortgage free debt free trouble free so if you can do that congratulations to in fact

Congratulations to all of them yeah even Paul Smith yeah yeah his lad box long ago I think his yeah his lad boxed you’re boxing the schore boyss or something yeah he’s young he’s young L boxed so the Smith family continues how Paul Smith groupy won out years

Ago you you’ve been you’ve been grouping for a lot of guys who who how’ you put it let me down who gets smashed by Andre Ward get Stu the man the man who didn’t fight Durell super six or booty because there was South Paws would have beaten both of

Them hey hey didn’t fight them he who took the zeros the Cobra you know that kid you know what do you think to Cobra’s beef we uh Big John Fury big fighting man and all this you’re not allowed to criticize a fury and you get banned and all this and lose

Your press pass I think it’s all a bit controlling now M I don’t know you know I listen to froch and it looks like froch is taking inspiration from someone I can’t think who but he’s definitely you know he’s definitely getting his weapons of mass destruction from somewhere be

Interesting to know where he’s getting them from but I like seeing KL on the front foot though he’s it suits him yep K being the voice of the boxing hardc I think that’s his Lane I think that’s where he’s going to get like his his third act in boxing if that makes

Sense just as that voice of the hardcore yeah he’s uh he’s not bothered car is he now in his interviews why he why why how he just tells it straight like Anthony Joshua is still not convinced is he he’s not but I tell you what though

Joshua’s kind of gone back to the top of the mountain just by being consistent and watching everyone fall around yeah he not back at the top of M because I never really thought he were at the top of the mountain himself anyway I always thought thought that he were very carefully

Matched right it would be interesting cuz when B said to you um when did I say to you I said after the Franklin fight I said all roads lead to a third usk fight for Joshua yeah you know you look at his CV and you look at lenx lewises and Muhammad

Ali’s they’ve got roadman after roadman on the CVS aren’t they real killers yeah Killers you know that like guys who didn’t win the title Annie Shavers and David tu but killers in their own right you know what I mean all rain today w’t they yeah you guys like Ry Mercer Jesus Oscar

Bon do you know what I mean all of those guys all those guys would would cause Havoc now why because they can box and they threw more punches back then you know some some great some great guys on the SE Cleveland Williams a world champion as well w a

WBA you know what I mean Al Le destroyed him didn’t he yeah that remember that was the only belt then wasn’t it wasn’t it just the WBA was the only belt you could really fight for I mean if you look at it Al Le beat Floyd Pon twice

Right he were olypic gold in 56 it’ be uh phasa twice he will imp pick gold in 64 he beat Foreman he will inck go 68 and he beat Spinx a 1976 Olympic gold medalist he weren’t bother are wor from any year wor he just wanted to fight them all and prove that

He were a bad cat didn’t he and that’s what you want in boxing and LX Le’s CB is just the same in it really yeah but they’re from that kind of ethos of if you believe in yourself you’ll fight anyone you know and nowadays and I look at them

All and you know a lot of these Fighters that there’s not that many get to be millionaires but in years to come they look at the senit Mir when they sat there with a pot belly and the and the mark 20 Range Rover outside and the

Rollsroyce I hope they look at Mir and say you know what did I really test myself but I don’t know maybe society’s changing that much I don’t know but then I look at the mindsets of these Russians like lomachenko us the klitch co you know them Eastern Europeans Golovkin

Koval you know usk all them lot and you never hear them go on about do they Biv and them they never go on about do they’re not flashy they’re all respectful and and you just get the impression with them people it’s about Legacy and the money will come you know

That kind of thing that’s all you want Russ that’s all you want you want people to be the best version of themselves yeah and and that they get they’re the best versions of themselves aren’t they I think where are a lot and Americans let themselves down I think social media

Gets a grip of them I think it does honestly yeah I think people act up for social media because they they never seem to we never get they’re never involved in any scandals or not are they they’re just proper down to earth businessmen aren’t they I don’t know didn’t K punch a RT

Wilder I think he’s probably wildest one out of all that c yeah but they they we we’ve talked about this before as they treat it like a job yeah you’re in the gym every day you may not do anything boxing related but you’re in the gym every day doing

Stuff every day because it’s your job some of the train regimes and that I mean who say when they went that YouTube thing he was sleeping in his in a barn I don’t know if that’s for effect or if they really do it but you won put it

Past it would you he was sleeping in a barn right and his ice baths were fish pond so they don’t need all this IT Tech stuff do they out there no they find ways to get busy it’s just raw training in it and raar hard a

Lot of it’s more mental I saw ruk on one of them machines you know where they were having to press numbers that were flashing up and did you see it yeah coordination stuff and all that and they’re into all that pingpong football on their heads and all that you know

That head thing that yeah they’re quite smart how they do things aren’t they yeah but I think sometimes you got just my you of training is keep it really simple it’s a sport about skills and work rate if you can get those to a high level you’re laughing and those two

Guys have those at a really high level yeah yeah yeah do you think o will deal with Fury then um I’ll go back to what Shane said Shane Fury said maybe Tyson’s done if Tyson’s not done then he will win this fight if he is done he can’t win this

Fight yeah well they’ll soon know when he gets in there if all these rumors are true but you know these rumors about him being dropped and man handled by Opa if it did happen they’ have been told to shut their mouths anyway because they’re all those one now aren’t

They if they they weren’t all as one Eddie would be shouting that front rooftops W they yeah but also like you know when people sayti drop few where does this even come from Russ Johnny Nelson’s M because because I I I A friend of mine

Was in the camp for a bit right he was asked to to babysit a couple of the heavyweights out there and he was saying no no no no fury was handling people well so he was really positive in terms of what he saw um just really interesting the fury does about anywhere

Between 24 and 30 rounds a week of sparring which I thought was insane yeah I’ve just had a text message here Johnny horsecock Nelson is strolling Round The Fountains in in Sheffield spread the news to all the ladies he’s a bachelor n come on man like like that’s

A middle-aged man sending you that text message Russ like you know that guy needs to do better at life people need to get out more don’t they yeah yeah definitely what do you think to all that beef with him in the G and that cu the saying that uh the GS

Become a PR guy for Furies and blah blah and because out the any news that goes out about the fur is the god comes out and turns it on its head do he anything don’t he oh no I it was Opa that dropped that was dropped by Ty you know he just

Flips it on his head and him and Johnny have had a bit of intense beef haven’t they um the gads in no position to ever go head-to-head with Johnny Nelson like Johnny Nelson’s been a world champion Gare a Davis still beats off to oh what’s her name ebony Bridges ebony Bridges that’s it

So the Muhammad Ali female boxing according to the god oh well there you go that’s early on dementia for the guy you remember that do you remember that video he did about do you remember weird it was weird comparing it to oh my God this is this is the problem with

Boxing they’re the sort of people we need to root out boxing you know those kind of unserious people who who just want to be clowns and Court Jesters for the views and Hope that they get um was it a well hydrate endorsement or you I mean who

Knows they need summer mate don’t they they need summer uh we’ll finish off on this then Joshua or Ono with every week I get more nervous for Joshua now the boys in the gym thinku’s chin is too much I think Joshua’s power is too much um I’m G to

Back Joshua I genuinely think when AJ hits him probably with the right hand and G is gonna go oh this is what boxing really is and I don’t think he will survive that I think Joshua will stop and G him and that’s when you hear Joshua go someone had to bring the honor

Back to boxing if Joshua stops him early everybody El turn around and say Fury’s definitely shoted a bits won’t they that’s what they’ll say won’t they and so they should Fury should dealt with him easily and now Fury this master defensive genius but yet in last 70 rounds he’s been down five

Times he’s a lot of this stuff is overblown like I said he got he got away with a lot by being a 6 foot eight 6 foot n guy with long arms simple as that yeah yeah well the storm against Wilder and now so he’s got art H he yeah

You have to respect that yeah we do yeah he’s got he’s got art but can he keep going to the well can he keep going to it against usk when he’s buzzing around him like a wasp hitting him with combinations and moving inside and out that’s what the us we saw against du

Remember that well we saw more conventional heavyweight performance against dubar fewer punches better quality punches probably and more ring Nails I think we saw from usyk and I think that’s the sign that usyk’s also slowing down well we’re going to see aren we in May yeah this is why we love the sport

Russ this is why we love this sport so much Matt Okie doie listen thanks for coming on Terry you’ve been a worri you take care take care pal bye bye well that was Terry from London he’s a banker Terry women love him men want to be him uh that’s about it hope everybody

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