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This video gives you great detail on the Fujikura Vista Pro
We look at 3 things:
1. Improve driver accuracy
2. The new shaft technology
3. How it will help your golf game
and I hope to do all this with simple understanding to create a simple easy golf swing.
So welcome to today’s fits got George Williams who owns JX gloves who’s in doing a driver fit today um so um played played American Collegiate golf still plays very good standard now so uh unsurprisingly looking at the scale of him large hitter um so we’re going to
Run through the driver spec and see what we can do so where are you where you playing your golf now right uh what club I’m playing at Brocket at the moment okay Rocket Hall and Welling um I played most of my golf at nworth Brocket driven past nworth many times up
The A1 I have you yeah you can see it from there can’t you I would I’d be practicing on that field when I was younger and always get people say oh think I saw you on the field the other day same Signature Hair for many years
Is it yeah my PE teacher would always uh always tell me that he saw me practicing got me some better grades so where am I aiming exactly with this is it um so basically it’s just the right of the white line so effectively they down the line the map but um just
In terms of visually if I put the line all way over it looks kind of quite skewed so just to the right of where the ball starts on the screen okay so the the bunker by the green the background the left edge of that okay yeah how how often are you managing
To play now I’m I’m I’m getting out most weeks uh I’ll probably play nine holes twice in the week and then I’ll play at the weekend as well 18 holes I like to get out after work go to the range hit a few parts I great practice facilities at Brocket I it’s
It’s my favorite place what yeah one of my favorite places in the world how are the how are the courses holding up this winter they’re looking really nice actually they’re um a few years ago they they they would struggle quite a bit with them mhm but
Now they’ve sort of got a few more um bit more expertise working on the course yeah and it’s honestly it’s the best condition winter course I’ve I’ve played in England um it’s obviously notoriously hard in Harford share cuz it’s more more clay based so it doesn’t drain that well
Some wet rounds of golf out there in the past yeah so it’s just really difficult to get any to get good condition courses out there but they do a great job and what sh because obvious got the wraps on them what shs have you got in driver fairway wood and
Two this is a uh hazardous smoke y I believe yeah that’s not very good is it got W cover this is also the same this is the same one actually do you remember what has it the the black the kind of one with the black writing or do you
Remember that one’s got like gray writing I think okay yeah this one’s the smoke I think and would that be the 70 or 80 yeah 70 yeah okay yeah and 80 in the fairway wood all same 70 uh 80 yeah Co and then the two on that one is 90
That was also has I I don’t know the weight of that one though is it same has the series probably the 90 in this okay okay and then swing wise that you’re working at the moment or you go back to as a key key feel key swing thought I am um at
The moment I’m I’m going for a little bit of a change um which made me slightly nervous about coming today I was like oh you know going through a bit of a change but you know I’m I’m a I’m a massive uh early extender yeah with my hips uh especially
When I’m not not playing my best it tends to get worse okay so I’m really just working on getting getting back here and then turning through keeping keeping the angle of these hips like you know the belt angle more like this rather than like that going to come kind of up in
That way yeah yeah okay I’m in bit of a club flipper so I’m trying to sort of hold it Square more any lower back issues any injuries at all from a back point of view n not really uh I do now that I’m trying to implement this this
Move a bit more I do feel a little bit more tender in my lower back I don’t know if that’s just because it’s quite a different move to what I’m used to possibly yeah any general Mobility you been to would you say generally being tightish kind of hamstrings and
Things or generally Mobility being good too many they are a bit bit tighter yeah what would you say that there’s a correlation between being tight in your hamstrings and sort of early extension of the hips cuz what it what it doesn’t facilitate is is that so they’re if
They’re tight it pulls through so it tends to shorten there so interesting so definitely so you got a lot of people who sat at a desk there not moving here not keeping Mobil so Mobility around the pelvis is really really key to be able to to stay in posture rotate and clear
Clear the space to stay in posture and keep your pelvic um guess pitch the same through the swing so you would you say for someone like myself who struggles with that PR primarily to keep like stretch the hamstrings quite regularly uh anywhere else yeah Kate would certainly say you know um rolling your
Feet carves um anything kind of like that all tightens up and pulls on the anything here pulls on in the back of your knee which pulls on your hamstring it pulls there so General pelvis and lower body lower body Mobility but also um some people get kind of tight through
The I can never remember the name but kind of the condition you might get is planta fasciitis but in the sole of the foot actually kind of rolling it’s horribly unpleasant but actually getting a spiky ball and rolling the Sol the foot almost like the um the ligaments
And tendons like you get in the in your palm in the sole of the foot get really quite tight and that feeds all the way back up there so if you do suffer with a little bit of low back tightness any kind of General rotational Mobility but leg Mobility
Stretching I’m going to get on that when I get it’s not very nice to work on to hurt well it’ll be nice to work on if I know it’s going to help me stop getting like this I’ll stretch for a a few more seconds that in that respect
Generally from a obviously yeah from a shot pattern point of view um would you tender to seen left as the Miss from what you’re saying there that one’s just pathal ch changing a little bit as you’re doing s so I say it does vary a bit to be fair at the
Moment measure the specs on at the moment now that I’m sort of trying to ingrain this move a bit a bit more I am seeing as as I I’ve done there a more of a more of a fade yeah but um I do feel like I’ve always played my best golf
When I faded it okay because my bad shots will be will sort of flare up a little bit land soft don’t run out too much yeah um so I’ve always like to see that in my in my shots especially off the te okay so one the things actually we
Talked about just before starting um with your irons they’ve got a much heavier grip on counter but script so um it’s an interesting I I think that is a bit of an insight into where the balance point is it suits you because um what it’s done is it’s made the swing weight
Very light even though they’re longer than standard they got a heavy shaft in um they I don’t know how heavy those grips are what the back weight is it’s 18 gam tungsten weight in there okay so I think the frame of the grip’s going to be a little bit heavier than normal
As well um because to get the swing weight at the length they’re at that’s about best part of 10 swing R Points lighter really um so is that that’s considerable about 50 g more than normal 50 yeah really um so uh but what that does allude to is if that feels
Comfortable yeah then having heavy bottom end is likely to get dropped in behind you and cause you to then have to recover the head so that if that feels like you’re under control with that then having it massed through the club but not necessarily in the bottom end um
That does does track with within reason through the shaft um shaft setup so you got the top end of the bag as well the the Hazardous the smoke blacks are a kind of upper mid balance point so they’re not a heavy tip end right so um
What that would do is it means that the the bottom end of the club as you start has less lightly to get in into there so if you you tend to struggle with a little bit of a stand and a little bit of fetch then the more behind it gets
The more aggressively you’re going to have to collect the club head to not lose one right but then that also creates the flip so it kind of it can exacerbate it a little bit whereas if the club’s coming coming out out in front of you more then you can just turn
And leave the hands quiet yeah so that would suggest that that weight profile is going to be more comfortable for you give you more control of the club okay but they are pretty heavy they are yeah yeah and I I feel like because basically the reason I have these is is because I
Had an eight iron in the bag with this on for for a while yeah and I felt like every time I had that eight iron I had so much more control with if if I wanted to hit like a three4 shot a half swing through the wind I was just piercing it
All the time like and I felt like my timing was so much better with that a line as opposed to the clubs where I didn’t have that grip and I just had a regular M Compound on it or something yeah and so with with a regular with something like that the contrast would
Be the multic compant are lightish um but at the longer than standard length the proportionately the balance gets a little bit heavier so whilst the head weight doesn’t change the longer lever means they swing more bottom and heavy so with a light grip on you’d have been it
Would the balance is like to be much more bottom end weighted so quite you know I mean a really significant change where the weight sits but certainly you it be interesting as we go through with the driver specs to see right does that correlate to putting the mass there in
The shaft itself or or do you need the extra weight in the grip so yeah cuz I’ve been quite reluctant to do to to put any them grips on to my Woods I haven’t got one in my 3ood either yeah so Al that’s purely based on I don’t know anything about the numbers
But it would be interesting to yeah and we be able to test with even just a 10 gam uplifting grip weight as well um going to I mean looking at kind of hand size and things and the grip size you’ve got on everything bar the driver they’re
All midsize yeah um so um there are definitely grips we can keep the weight kind of in line with the standard grip weight yeah and then go 10 12 gr heavier 15 GRS heavier and see how that affects does that help timing or does that actually make it a little unwieldy um so
We can we can definitely test out as well awesome let me try and hit a few straight ones then have have as many as you need to feel suitably limber naturally right-handed I’m naturally left-handed ah right okay does that so that that that absolutely supports what we’ve just
Been talking about as well really so if you’re like I’m right-handed playing right-handed it’s much easier to save the club head with a kind of palm palm forward recovery that’s pretty controlled um whereas if I were to do it the other way around and have this B
Dominant hand and then to recover it that way that’s a much more volatile move because a kind of a backhand rotation is much stronger so if you’ve got to fetch it through you’re like to either to really hold it off and leave the face miles open or rip it around and
Smother it so actually it’s not a kind of an absolute rule but 60 70% of the time higher balance point suits Top Hand dominant play really because that that allows your body to rotate and collect it and leave your hand in a really quiet position rather than bringing in that
That strong rotational recovery yeah I think that’s a good word to use to let to like let I think did you say let your body collect it yeah yeah yeah that that’s that’s a feel that I really like sort of okay yeah and I do feel like the
The heavier grips helped me do that back to um when I played tennis as a junior I’m very right-handed so a single-handed backhand was either in the net or over the back net but and so I went double-handed backhand and that helped control the racket face but it stopped
My top hand overd dominating the racket face or sending it the volatility of shot was like single-handed I could hit one shot in 100 like Roger Federer and the rest would go like kind of R red arrows um but then a double-handed back can was my best shot once I went to that
So using the body more yeah yeah quens down that s of strong dominant Top Hand yeah so that left what ball do you play I use a uh tp5 X for the most part just make sure they got a few of those that have got the silver dot on so
We’re using the right ball did start playing from a young age yeah since about 10 MH a bit right as well I mean they’re consistent and Driver generally j a club that you felt over the years as a strength in the bag or um when I was
Younger it was the best thing in my bag but now it’s it’s not for sure it’s um it’s it can be when I’m playing good it can it like I’ll go for a round where it will it’ll look quite impressive you know the people I’m playing wow you’re you drive it so nice
But um too many rounds it just doesn’t feel like I’m getting it right it’s a little bit handsy here okay so you got to play the whole time rather than just swing okay got sort of protect it somehow at times do you feel like you’ve got to
Swing back when say back from Full kind of um steer a little bit do is it yeah I don’t I’m I’ve not been someone especially in recent times that that stood on a reachable par 4 and thought all right yeah let me get out this one you know sort
Of wor I worry more or something third yeah third yeah yeah yeah I worry more about if I don’t quite get this I’m going to be like might have to chip out or something okay yeah and I and I feel comfortable hitting a shot and having 80
Yards in 70 yards in um which is why I feel like I’m a leaving a lot in the leaving a lot on the field so to speak because I would like to have that confidence got it but I can still you know I can still get a score in somehow at
Times do I’ll pop the pop the TP FS down and we’ll get kind of we’ll get kind of four five just get a good Bas on assuming you feel good to go I feel pretty warmed up t height if you want it higher or uh
Just let me know I can go should be all right anticlockwise to bring it out a little bit and clockwise to put it in which other the two cores do you prer I always I always thought palon was a great test the palmon got the best holes
On but the palmon I thought was the best course yeah I think the paliston for sure because I just love playing in the tree in the pine trees in the sort of front of the back front of the front nine and then towards the back of the
Back nine I can’t get enough of it yeah but then you’ve got 18 on the Melbourne which is really stunning half five over water problem is you go for the t-shot too much to ruin the hall by trying to hit the too far the thing is it’s so
Wide as well so you’re like I can prober give us a CRA don’t yeah you don’t you don’t pick the problem with that sort of shots you don’t pick a spot like you would normally and then you flare away at it and go arm in the bunker on left
Yeah or you just just creep it into the left rough and it’s so thick over there you just so do you when you’re playing do you like to visualize a shot do you pick out a spot how do you approach a I only pick out a starting um a starting
Line yeah I like to be quite precise with the starting line and then I sort of more more more feel a shot rather than see it sort of all right starting it there it’s going to come up here if I just sort of feel feel how how much I’m going to fade it
If Fad in it um like particular like particularly uh today um I’m hitting quite a prominent fade today um more so because I’m try trying to um ingrain a uh a swing thought but I would this is I I would see this on the range and then I would go out and sort
Of like okay my Target’s here I need to feel it um I need to feel a 15 yard fade so okay feel that much you know yeah that’s the source shape I quite quite enjoy seeing you know say you’d be wanting to see it if anything just with
That little bit of a bleed left to right rather than I really like that yeah yeah cuz I I like the feel of being able to aim down the left side and I know it’s just I know it’s going to move that way you know yeah and you generally prefer to see the
Flight a little bit flatter more forwards or do you like it kind of like to get a little bit more height I like it lower I like a lower flight um feel like I’ve always hit it better I hit more Fairways when I’ve hit it a little
Lower um and I’ve got a bit more distance out of it as well m okay see one will be good yeah thanks okay there’s definitely I think as you alluded to earlier definitely it’s it’s not as connected as I’d like to see it through there’s definitely a little bit
More going on through impact that you’ve got a fine square with it if anything actually what’s good for you is that your your general strike point just a little bit into the heel okay so that just helps to gear it a little bit left
To right so um yeah in the same way that um you know where sh and I last night the live were talking about strike point and knowing that actually your strike point compliments the kind of shot shap you want to see so the nice thing is that you know by getting the contact
Just earing into the heel side you’re not having to play as much of a fade because it naturally the gearing is natur going to take it that way yeah um and that’s also where where yeah for the slightly stronger flight you do tend to squeeze it a little bit um I think some
Of that is possibly some of that is managing the setup where if you were to sweep it and hit up on it a little bit more that that might bring a little more over the left so it makes more sense to stay on top and squeeze and Lead it it
Makes it easier to lead the club through the ball if you’re just squeezing at a fraction um but yeah the tail made heads are very good at managing spin um especially if you’ve got a little bit of a squeeze the weight being further forward definitely keeps the spin down they
Suit more than other brands they suit that a little bit of a what a little bit of a trap but a higher speed as well and then aren’t trying to pop it up in the air so certainly the the Sim we take you one the ones will start testing with the
Uh the Q10 the ls yeah the stealth plus star heads weight forward definitely um are going to keep the base launch angle a little bit more forward so certainly I mean head style I can understand why that’s been a good head for you for managing ball flow just a great head for
Keeping that flight down and forward and piercing yeah um but it it just it’s only looks like as you’re getting into the ball that the that the club and you are a little out of sink and there’s just a little bit of a flick rather than big able just to
Keep going and the club stay connected um so I think one one the things we’ll look at is you maybe just shifting was it D3 this is quite a neutral swing weight just moving balance point around the seeing right at what point how far can we push it before it
Starts to get a little bit dropped behind right because it might well be I doubt we’re going to need to go heavily tip end but creating just a little bit more of a drop means you can keep on going through the shot and create a little bit more of a late hit
Um because the if you go back to your IRS and the the grip weight there’s a lot of total weight there um so that could be where the club just stays little behind and you can just then manage the face through I think with the
Driver and the speed we want to get want to keep the handle and coming with you but maybe just use the balance point to delay the h a little bit more um but ultimately you know it’s not performing badly at the moment but I can see where
It’s hard for you to just Stand and Deliver with it and have the same feel day and day out Ally you’ve got to rely on your feel for the shot yeah um so yeah there’s there’s definitely I think in terms of you data wise there might
Not be a huge I’d like to think we can just pick that up a little bit but certainly in terms of kind of cleaning this of timing through making it feel a bit simpler I’m sure we can do something about that draw so so what I’m going to
Do first is I’ll get the kind of current equivalent of that head and then I’m going to going to get a couple of different dead weights and see at what point do we start to push it too heavy bring back down play around with balance points and see if we can just find
Everything together perfect yeah sounds good what I’ll do with the grip side of things I’ll keep it to start with I’ll keep it pretty fairly standard yeah once we get close on the grip spec then I’ll go and put the bigger grip on look at some different grip weights and see once
We get the with a kind of neutral grip weight once we get the spec there we’ll then test putting extra grip weight on and okay have that sure effect all the timing we’re often fine with the driver because it’s the lightest Club in the bag the grip weight proportionately
Affects it more so right yeah you might be able to get away with some different grip weights in the irons cuz propor it’s less of a change in the total weight of the club right um so a for example a six iron heads 60 G heavier than the driver head and the shaft’s
Another 50 g heavier than the driver shaft so you’re already 110 G heavier so a 10 G change is less of an effect whereas proportionately on the driver it can be quite a quite a big amount right okay all right thank you do you want me to talk you through
What we’re changing or do you just want me to hand you stuff and I don’t mind hearing it yeah um yeah so so starting off current version of the whiteboard in the XX is they’re really really even balance so they’re not a they’re not a counterbalance jar but they’re very
Neutral but they’re really stable feel um so a lot of lot of Heavy Hitters you’ve got a lot of speed um tend uh and especially if you don’t want to feel it going left it kind of makes sense to start with something that’s going to be a really tight feel because it’s going
To take out a sensation of a bit of Pop okay so it’s it shouldn’t feel like the club the clubs making it go left it should feel like it’s hanging on really tight right so got you but if it’s the Sha we think it is underneath the wrap it’s not dissimilar
On weight but a slightly different balance point okay see one more interesting so essentially it’s going to be a case of that was interesting that one changing a changing a variable each time we change sherff to say right we know which bit we’re changing yeah what effect does it have because for some
Players you get the club dropping behind it leaves the face open others you get the head dropping behind it makes them fetch it so we all react slightly differently to to the change so there’s no if someone hits it a certain way okay this change will create this it’s like
It might but it might go the other way okay I’m going to just take I’m going to take the dead weight up a little but so the first swing looked very similar to what happens with the current ones yeah and then you managed it really well so that was interesting
That because it felt felt didn’t feel dissimilar to a lot of the ones I hit with that M but this one went straight obviously rather than uh maybe would you say it’s helping me sort of get it into that position of a bit more like this
Potentially I mean terms of from a we look just it’s a snapshot if we look at the DAT take off the warm-up swings um the swing path’s a little bit Square I see okay so actually let me just see from a raw weight point of view because
That one’s got the Fairly neutral grip weight on it it’s 329 gam now the I guess the wrap will have added a little bit of weight onto the Sha right um so 329 okay this is three and a half gram heavier so the slight change in weight
Position will have a little bit of an effect um but so looking at that and those two being almost identical weights no surprise it didn’t change through the ball that first one still looked like it got away from and you had to manage the left M so I’m going to take the base
Weight up a few grams okay doesn’t necessarily take much here from 73 to 77 so it doesn’t take a huge amount to St start to make a noticeable difference right okay than well this is cool it’s got to look good oh 100% I’ve got a couple of them here yeah
So just the dot on the top top yeah yeah thanks like that yeah perfect thank you okay that’s quite different straight away so a little bit more weight it sort of ties into the irons with those grips a little with a lighter weight it just
Looks like it lets you as you get to kind of of halfway down essentially just overwork the club and it ends up being a little bit of a flip I think that’s where that flick comes from right it’s essentially kind of energy into the handle outweighs the effec inertia in
The club and ends up getting a little that way now it allows you to manage it but you’ve got to steer it a bit whereas that one little heavier Club drops in a bit more so you got more to hit against so actually you can then carry on going
Through the shot yeah hence that’s now got the path dead square and it’s started right R left so the club just drops down beh drops in a little bit more behind you and then you can build speed with the weight rather than overwork it and then hang on and so the
The weight is more towards the grip on this one is that right or um so it’s yeah a little bit in this I mean marginal or compared to my driver uh similar balance point but that one’s sort of well the base weight before the wrap goes on is around 72 73 simar to
This but it is an upper mid balance that one the dead weight’s five five or grams heavier okay um so that a little bit more weight gives you a bit more to drive so weight is it is it total weight through the so this one again really
Evenly distributed so got you okay fine so um one of the things talking to George there is that um essentially every player has got an Optimum weight to be able to build speed with but not to get caught behind them so it’s finding enough weight to actually use
The weight to to drive with uh and not go so heavy they get stuck behind so light doesn’t always mean Quicker yeah so that that one is now starting to drop into line so it’s it’s got a calculation on the spin there but what we can see here from your delivery lines it’s now allowing it’s it’s shallowing the plane a little bit which then drops the path more
Neutral which then allows you to hit Square through it rather than have to get across and trap it to manage the face yes so both of those from a um you know numbers point point of view we’ve gone from three and a half out to in to
One to zero and then face the path first one’s a little bit open but you then got that squared off so that then starts to allow you to keep going through the shot and it’s not starting left so then you’re not having to go right to hit
You’re not having to hit a pole fade it’s just a you now hitting through the line and then depending on what you do with the club Fe you can then shape it off that yeah so going a little bit heavier uh as you can see Club speeds
Very very similar but we now start to pick up ball speed because the timing is better so so is this um effectively like helping to get the path more more sort of neutral you’d say rather than rather than because it on here so if it’s if
It’s light as you put engine in the handle it doesn’t quite do this essentially it works that way so the if you override the weight here you pull down since it stands that up uh and then to not if you just keep going with that it wraps over so some of
That and therefore maybe a little bit of that extension could be if it’s there you’ve then got to work the face yeah rather than a little bit more weight on it as you start down if the club drops in more the plane shallows out a little
Bit so you’re then able to use that way to drop it and then work through there with so you’re kind of hitting through the line it rather than kind of over and managing it sure right so I’m going to push that a little heavier still so that’s definitely a step in the right
Direction so effectively would you you would say a a heavier drive would be better for me right yeah okay that’s interesting because when I was young when I was a lot younger I used out of no like choice I used heavier drivers heavier driver shafts
Just because I it’s all I had okay so and I felt like at that time I didn’t swing it very fast at all but I always felt like I was a really straight hitter um yeah and it can it can it it might have had an influence on some of the
Leverage that you using the swing now you build your speed it would have would have influenced it a bit your Technique would have developed around that a certain amount um but equally speaking it’s it’s really finding the setup that as you start down that change from zero
To 113 mil hour it’s a lot of acceleration rate so there’s a lot of energy going into the handle so it’s it’s finding the amount of inertia in the club to match energy in and then everything syns up right um so if you used heavy when you’re younger then that
Will affect the way you devel your speed and how you put your eny in the hand of the club a little bit so it would have shaped a certain amount it’s a little bit of one thing kind of shapes the other slightly but um but equally speaking certainly now the moment you
Drop light you’ve then got to change your you got to manipulate through the ball whereas the heavyweight drops it in and you can then you just hitting through the line so we just evened out the club plane a little bit yeah go another six seven G no point going subtle in the
Change it’s F too heavy and then bring it back down just going to put the soul weight Central on this rather margely in the heel when I go back home I’ll just tell it they just they just fitted me in the heaviest stiffish sh they had is just swing it too
Hard as opposed to well I was just flipping it and had to try and control it okay that’s this one’s up at 84 gr now rather than 77 wow 84 so is that more of a is that more of like a three-wood type spec it it’s
Kind of show off a lot of even that a lot of strong players are using three-wood so uh we’re seeing driver shaft weights particularly you looking at the tour players a lot of them would have been historically in high 70s around 80 g the driver but where they’re
Now working on it’s more rotation speed um to not then get stuck on flip so you know Dustin’s in the 60s we’re always down in 65 six grams now uh Tiger’s down to 60 odd grams now so um I think a lot of I me you still get some players that
Are up around 80 grams um U but you know look at Gary Woodland or someone like that you use his weight he’s got that kind of pull down on the handle so he’s always played a slightly heavier shot um so it’s still it’s still got to be
Relevant to the player but a lot more players are going lighter on tour purely for that speed generation right but this would be where quite a lot of Fairway Wood sha would sit you for them high 70s low 80s okay yeah it’s interesting because it was always notoriously like
The he heavier or like fastest faster swingers would have a heavier driver shaft is that right yeah it used it used to be the thought process that that you that the weight helps to control it but actually it can start to get the club
Out of syn so you think if you fire fast then the club can get stuck behind whereas if it’s a more of a kind of a a I guess more of a kind of a kka style You Pull and everything pulls down and builds then actually the weight can help
But if you’ve got a you know Justin Thomas kind of snap then that weight’s going to get stuck behind right so that’s where he’s also in s I’d have to check what he’s in now but he he was in the same shaft that tiger was in the VF
The graphic design the vf5 TX which is actually a 60 G the orange one uh the one with the red tip it’s the latest one they launch um but you again he’s got that real kind of quick snap of the hips which gets if you go heavy it gets a
Separation and then either you got to be very very very strong for everything to stay through and pull on it or or you’re just going to snap them too yes felt slightly dragged yeah and this is where push it too far and then the the whole club gets a
Little bit behind it can bring in that little bit of a you can late recovering smother and then the next one the hand goes up and it goes right so little bit of a save Heavy’s fine not bad in terms of it gives you something to hit against but that
Started to get now a little behind you and we’re starting to see the face starting to go closed open closed open so just a little bit harder work so this we’ve now found kind of top end we know where you know that one’s a little bit
Too light we know 77 is good we know 84 is too much yeah okay so you play the path three up at brck it much I do yeah yeah it’s um it’s a great path three it’s a bit like the paliston really and the US the
So I mean this is going back 44 20 four five six years um there was a deal I think one of the founder members had like a week’s worth of use for someone to just use between or few days between Christmas and New Year until I used that
And um and I used to spend quite a lot of time on the P three course yeah it was great because like 60 yards up to about 160 I think yeah great fun it’s got some never had anyone on it it’s got some good variation yeah there’s never any there still never
Anyone on it they got a grass range in the summer now it’s uh it’s a nice place to spend time I think think when when facilities are good it’s easy to spend time practicing when the fa enough for sure okay little turn okay I’ll watch one more of that I’ll go
Back to that spe we’re still a few grams heavier still 80 grams now rather than that 77 of the speed run right and it’s interesting both of the ones where they’re a little heavier the first one’s go on left a little left yeah path still with the weight the
Path’s still first swing each one is still down the line so it’s whether you will inevitably react a little bit just by seeing that shot subconsciously all do something toy square it off but the first Swings with the heavy weights are all dead down the line yeah okay good ball
Speed okay so that one I felt that much more gave that a little bit more that one I think that the top end I think we’re in that very if we go above 80 I think we push it a little too far but certainly in that very high 70s 80 g is
In a good place I’m going to going to fetch a rather than going back and forth back and forth I’m just going to fetch a few just to to grab and test out rather than every shaft switching room you playing any competitive golf this year I like to play in the county stuff
I like to play County Champs it’s stroke play Then match play I love the match play bit oh yeah um so I’m definitely G GE myself up for that that’s at Welling Garden City this year Nick F’s uh yeah home well early home course which uh yeah that’s nice to play
There short short track but um going say that’s more positional course isn’t it yeah they get they get the greens in really good condition over there and yeah for County Champs they’ll be they’ll get it a Max which I’m excited for and then yeah if I sort
Of my handicap sort of drifted up a little bit over the last year or two so if I get a little cut I’ll try and get into some other events as well what are you playing off now I’m off plus one now still get you in basically
Anything there are a few that I think now the new with the new handicap system I think you need a bit more like I think a solid plus two you need to get in sort of most stuff now okay what’s the one more but that just
Look like it started to go back the other way very slightly what do you mean like in terms of where just okay nowhere near what you current one does but just just had a little bit of a little bit of a closure yeah I felt that that was just didn’t
Quite track as well interesting seeing how with the other ones they like the the TR black that you just hit it just stayed in and I had to wait the head up a little bit more on this one so kind of artificially waiting up so I think that
Just lost you a little bit of feel for the club head okay okay let’s go it’s got the I’m just going to putp the normal size I don’t want to don’t want to change the grip what yet okay where we at College at in the US uh UCF Central Florida Central Florida
Yeah any wor stand out you got to play during that time course wise any and what like tournament wise um I’d say the probably the one of the nicest courses I played um NCA regionals at uh Yale okay Yale Golf Club that was that was beautiful there had a um
Friend of mine that was at Yale and um although long time after I was well not I was long time after kind of my age group would have been there and um yeah he said how good the course was there yeah it’s Pete D I think every anytime I
Play a Pete D I just love it I think they are exceptional I just love the way like the greens are designed MH I mean yeah I’ve never seen greens like it there’s if you there’s 25 30 foot parts that have got three braks in them
There’s so many quite a few got lots of t almost red and style greens where they’ve got if that’s the right technology where they’ve got kind of high low high yeah yeah I think I probably had my best round around there as well and it was probably the it was
The final round it was probably the most important round of of my life cuz I wasn’t actually at UCF at that time I was in New York so I had a nice little 65 on the final day got know by UCF and then shipped off to Florida so slightly
Better Winters could not ask for more than that if I knew how important it was then uh might have been a bit more difficult okay ball speeds just got so this one I’ve left a little bit more it’s natural swing weights a little bit heavier um now that one in particular ball
Speeds just jumped right that felt really nice I don’t know if it was just a good shot but it did feel good through impact um maybe mitigating that that flip a little more um maybe a little bit it’s the same weight but same base weight as
The speeder NX but the but there’s a little bit more more balanced down the bottom end of the sh right a little bit it’s not it’s not a heavily tip weighted sh but it’s just coming out of heavier swing weight on that on that head the sticker still on
There I can always put another one on if need be would you say that um if someone like myself comes in who’s who’s saying look I’m I’m trying to make a little change I’m not swinging at my 100 I’m not swinging at 100% right now is that good for a fitter like yourself
Because you can then work on uh mitigating the bad shots more so than if they were swinging it good I think if you’re if you’ve as long as you’ve gone through a bit of the Swing process rather than S of saying well I’m going to be working on this because then you
Don’t quite know what’s going to change but um from what you’ve described about changing we can we can let the club help you make it but also make sure we pitch it at a point that works for a well timed swing so like we so almost just
Not going too forgiving on it because if you’re working on something the timing is not quite beded in slight Stronger Yeah so in the same way if you get um you get a junior getting older you challenge them a little bit because you don’t want them to go out to it in five
Months time similarly for you doing a bit of Swing work I don’t I it makes me look to the one that when you put a stronger move on works really well rather than the one that looks a little bit easier because a confidence swing is going to be the stronger one today if
That makes sense kind of that’s going to be where the where we want the swing to get to where doesn’t necessar mean I want you to be have to be all guns blazing at it but just one that looks a really kind of slightly more solid move
Um we we need it to be able to cater for that rather than just being that for a little bit in the future rather than just straight for now exactly yeah okay now unless you said to me like I don’t want to have to you know I much
Prefer to swing Within Myself and Qui it down yeah um you’ve got some Pace on you though so I’d rather have one that doesn’t need you to get after it but allows you to should you want to yeah that’s that is um that is where
I would like to get you’re not a hitting driver because you just want to put it in play no you you’re getting the driver out 300 yards plus you it it’s there to be sent rather than steered into play yeah that was a bit left I’ll watch one more of that take it
Back to one that we went too early almost just to kind of normalize it relative to something I’ve seen it before I think we probably just need to AR it back a fraction from where that is yeah but again having yeah it just shows having a bit of mass at least gives you
Something to know where the club is to get a feel for where the club headit is I think we probably want to say rain it back just a little bit from there but um cuz that still looked like it might get that little bit of a fetch over
Okay so I want to go back to this partly because sometimes the first one that’s just in a better place from what you’ve got looks always looks good um and then have having hit a few others you can go back to it it doesn’t look anywhere near
As near as good but uh should be so actually this one was a slightly heavier swing weight than I remembered it being so the last it’s about a point lighter than the previous shaft right so should mitigate a little bit of that kind of have that requirement to fetch the club p through
Yeah that it’s interesting it’s it’s so I know it’s a little bit it’s a little bit right but actually like it it didn’t get that way on you so I’m going to see one more there but I that still to me looked like it dropped into plane better
Right I rather see it face a little open and slightly Healy which this is is a little harsh on some of the gearing um I’d rather see it having a bleed that way than the m going in the other yeah me too yeah that that’s just a bit simpler
Through the hit yeah so marginally toeside on the strike but the face is little bit like one degre open right so there’s nothing about that that’s creating a flick left uh and then like that you can just pile straight through it and not worry about as long as you
Don’t stall out on it and flip the head yourself as long as you just keep going with the swing that’s mitigating anything left you can still play a draw from there because you haven’t got to do much with the face to square it off but we’re getting that neutral to slightly inside path
Yeah and then a neutral to a marginally open Club face so that’s that’s still in quite a nice place I’m going to go there’s one other I to go back to but it just that start looked like everything kept together through the ball rather having a little bit of I say
Well manipulation a little bit of finding the ball with it just standing certainly feels Square do you think it’s sometimes it’s a combination of the better Club Plus hitting hitting ball hitting golf balls your time yeah a little bit um and what we’ll do once we get the right one
Of these then I’ll then we’ll just go back to your current one and see what that uh what that feels like this week that was a bit traged watch one more and this one this is the one that’s just a few grams heavier I felt that Lord half fine but
And this is where we’ve got to look at okay was that was that just a swing where was a little less well Tim so the club got out of sink and then dunk left or is that something that actually we need to just try and avoid at all
Costs is it is it a case of as I mean ball speed and Club speed aren’t really changing too much it’s that judgment is it was that just a slightly funky move or is that the club doing that right yeah there’s a little bit ball comes back nice and straight there’s a little
Bit of it just getting on on your back hip a little bit and then just tasting round whereas this one just stays that little bit more out in front of you so I think with that one you’ve got to of Hulk up a little bit
More with it with that you can still be really committed but you can just rotate through and collect it rather than having to pull on the handle as much moment you pull on the handle if it doesn’t quite come with you it gets behind and then you drag the toe over yeah got
Yeah where is the that shot with the previous shell just look everything look really simple through the ball it didn’t look there was any a Time feeling for it at all just look like it could just you could just do that on repeat yeah sure it’s got nothing to do with
The fact you like the look of it but with what sorry it’s got nothing to do with the fact you like the look of it I get a bit more pumped up when I see that nice greeny blue color what I’ll do let me put the slightly bigger grip on
Midsize let’s check your hand size to my yeah definitely let me put the midsize grip on just to see what happens when I do that yeah I’m just going to it’s a fraction heavy so just got to add a little bit of weight just to get the swing weight back
Up in line with where we were how do you do that is that left um in the fitting but yeah I mean there are different weights we can use for the back um not widely available those weights but uh thanksfully we’ve got the got the wrench that works with
It oh what these weights aren’t widely available yeah so they they they have a um rent with a very slightly smaller right um thread on it oh well so the average person can’t get that out unless they’ve got that special one yeah interesting I didn’t like that so they are technically changeable
But just not not if they can help it not for most looks much simpler through the ball yeah there’s the nice thing that there’s no left in that yeah it’s just that little bit of a change of the handles now coming with you so that can as you turn
It can lead the club head through naturally rather than it just getting if you get a hair out of thing getting just a little behind than the club head catapulting yeah so hence you yeah I like that I feel like I could feel that club a bit more at the top
Um and then pull the trigger for the way down yeah watching you swing that’s really the key for me watch I’m looking at sequencing and how you and the club interact so you know the better the club setup it drops in and you come through everything stays very very stable so
You’re looking at body arms Club staying really synced up yeah that then stops any requirement for um bit of rotation whereas for me I have a little bit of a drop in so a little it’s always a little bit more um Zoro like through the ball
So I’ve got to create I’ve got to go a heavier tip to drop the club in for my hands to hit against for you it’s getting the whole club dropping in for it then to for you can drive through from your core rotation right and that’s where just a fractional
Weight changes balance point changes mean we can do it with the shaft rather than having to rather than having to use so in the past have have been counter weights you can use or you we can do it with the shaft setup rather than having
To add extra anus bits on the club to do it with right sure yeah we’re looking at a one or two grand change in head weight rather than a four or five yeah bit more simpler sometimes it’s necessary but if you can avoid it it’s better yeah little toy maybe I’m not sure
That’s pretty straight a little bit but what’s really nice with that is that um if we get those last two shots you know your path is 6 on one. 2 on the other face to path 2.3 1.2 so whilst that’s slightly toey um the the natural impact
Position is a slight fade so the tow strike mitigates the open face and doesn’t then Loop if you if you were closing the face and Tow strike then it rips left right so that’s just drawn back to the middle rather than just bleeding a little bit right but
Neither’s a a heavy movement um so see just it’s it’s not a lot out the toe you the previous one was again similar so actually what’s really nice that your your strike pattern ironically has gone from with your existing driver being slightly heels side the hill yeah to
Slightly toes side so that’s where the change in linkage comes in but we’ve also gone from okay more out to in and kind of slightly over the top to neutral with a slightly open face so the deliver is really really really square and the open face and slight tow strike actually kind
Of manage one another one and just just going to take out just cuz I think that’s going to I don’t want it to affect the average that’s a bit of an outline that’s ugly um but yeah you know three on the path one and a half open so
A marginal tow strike just means that the face and the gearing cancel one another out right um so actually it’s the perfect Miss for your face angle and if you middle it so what it drifts a little bit right but you’ve got to go way out onto the toe to get one looping
So the the more you just keep turning through you can you can keep building more speed and it’s not starting left going left it might you might hit just a slight draw but more through strike point um so we’re just taking out that that element of variability you’ve got a
Tolerance of 0 n of a degree on face to path half a degree on path yeah just over half a degree on angle attack that’s you know for some many hits at the distance you do that’s such a reliable grouping so that means you can essentially set up left center of a
Fairway and go okay if I nuke it it’s left Center but generally speaking it’s going to start left Center the center and just drift back that’s what I like and that one the furthest right is I find these ones where is it is that one is less than it’s 20 yards right center
So that’s just off a fairway but if you’ve aimed slightly left of center that’s right half a fairway yeah so um yeah it’s not exactly moving I mean that one’s shaped seven yards so it’s not exactly moving a long way seven yards just little slight push yeah on on
Average okay the average takes into some slight draw some slight fade but it’s a very very very quite you’ve got only got a tolerance of 20 foot in terms of shot shape so essentially 14 yards left to right Which is less than half well it’s
Less than half a fair in the US Open so it’s quite nice so I’ll go to the open the regional qualifying then and the other bit that’s actually working quite nicely here as well um head style is keeping it’s it’s a very safe um set of launch and spin so get
You know 10 launch and 21 yeah that one was a calculation so that’s just going to you know 12 body to one just under 2,000 which your speed’s okay um then you know the one that’s drifted a bit right 10 half 2 and a half again that’s
Sort of numbers that a lot of the tour players would look for so that it doesn’t get get too Knuck kind of dip away um yeah would you like to see that on like a on a on a b worse like a poorer shot like a higher spin rate
Moving towards the right side soft yeah I mean so we look at the going on the optimized that pick up the right you can see you know that one they’re saying based on a slight squeeze Ang of attack upper mid launch lower mid spin that’s actually really really efficient um you
Know because it’s you’ve got the launch angle okay your speed there’s always going to be plenty of height but it it doesn’t risk it knuckling off but it’s keeping the spin in check and if I go on the on the averages 10724 that’s incredibly efficient from a
Flight point of view but still with quite a safe spin rate um and even if I take off the one it missed the spin on 10723 now this is for carry in total that’s only a fraction underneath the optimal spin rate level so because you got the launch Tri angle your Height’s
Absolutely fine and then you’re hitting bang on optimal carrying total numbers um so you know go on total again it’s it’s there even though in theory there’s another couple of Miles hour ball speed the flight’s in such a stable place um that it’s really really efficient and again you can look
At the grouping from there it’s not exactly that bad yeah no that’s not nice so what I’m going to do I’m going to get a couple of whil you hit another one I’m going to get a couple of other heads to compare with yeah little open
Yeah yeah it’s funny it’s one of those ones where I would I would rather For You especially with what you’re doing at the moment yeah I would much rather see that as the Miss because that’s just one where again you’re you’re wanting to see if anything the ball drifting left to
Right so from that you go okay I can just I can really commit to turning through and it’s not going left whereas it starts to go left then you’ve got to manage the face and then you’re in a world of pain because you go well if the
Bad one goes left if I’m aiming up the left then really in trouble whereas if you aim left half and it goes a bit right it’s what Monte always used to do um but it gives you a oneway Miss which is really really ke that is yeah huge really is
It and actually one of the things with that head it sits a slightly flatter the LIE than some so that on its own also again just it’s marginal but just Ur it towards the right side too got you I’m trying to hit this one hard see what happens see if
So again I I don’t mind seeing that cuz that again you see just a little bit of slight kind of cling onto the club ped which if that left hand seege a little bit of control allows it to square up it’s one degree out to win right and it just then goes
Straight but that’s then really really gone you got a little bit up on it so that’s then give you more launch and kept the spin in chck de so as I said I’d much rather see it that way because that means you haven’t got to control
The club face you can just keep on turning through yeah got yeah good news is Club speed went up as well yeah doesn’t always happen just cross reference that so in terms of relative to your current setup we’re about a SW just about a swing right Point heavier just under D4 um
This shot is going to be a hair shorter um qu inch 44 and 3/4 versus 45 so we’re up five gram or so in terms of shaft weight um structurally the the speeder NX the green is is very tip stable um speeder NX series they’ve they’ve used some talk bar I think it’s
Some some of the torque bar cor um you know you learnings it’s not got velore in but it’s they’ve the speed R next every series they run it’s Fuji K shaft obviously hence the better com um they learn from what they do with other models they might not incorporate
Exactly the same materials um hence the different model run but actually a lot of the um the rotational stability that have taken bits from The Vortex Incorporated that into the NX green material so the blue is the softer mid softer tip a little bit more flight this
One’s the one that’s a little more Stout all the way down okay right go into LS Tech ping oh it’s going to be quite hard to beat that yeah I used to play a lot of ping I used to play a lot of ping drivers when I
Wasit younger um what would you say the main kind of differences in comparison to like the Taylor Maids uh I mean generally speaking ping have always been what say very safe from a club point of view and and I mean that a as a strength
Of it in terms of their um they’re not volatile for spin right um so they’ve always been good off center um generally a tow strike the tailor Maids historically but like the C used to kind of take a little bit more spinoff this was a little bit less knuckly out the
Toe now actually because the face is hanging a bit open tow strike actually creates a really efficient spin out of the tailor made and they’re not as these are turn bad they’re not as volatile as they used to be um in that cont ATT Point okay
So do you have a it may be controversial to ask a Club Fit up do you have an opinion of the best driver that’s been made ever ever um I think it it’s all I think you got to take it relevant to the time that it came out sure um so
Um can’t multitask uh I would say what would I say I look 400 Max from a consistency point of view was a was a really really good head and the the offs Center performance of that going back the five six years or so that it came out was
Really pretty impressive um the ping ping for yeah um I think it’s funny I you you go right back the the 975 titlists they were right that was really I mean say you know callway when they weren’t the the bigger heads initially that was that was game there’ve always been certain ones that
Game change over the years I think that was one of them um I think trying to think the Titus were just a a head that the the players loved I think it was the look and the sound of the control out of them um is that the one that tiger used
In a fivewood for a long time or is that a different model that was we had a PT it was a really small one for a long time right um he played the 975d right which is smaller than the J that most players played um I think I
Mean like I Taylor Made always been very good with the drivers I mean SLDR game changed in terms of spin I mean it was unplayable for a lot of players but ball speed and low spin because that way the center gra was so low and so far forward
You couldn’t beat it if someone got one out the middle it was utterly unbeatable which was great but it was also bad because the problem was that the really good one was so good and then the okay one was just nowhere near um but that kind of showed if you took it to
Extremes it showed kind of where you couldn’t go to anymore do you think that’s probably do you think that’s the most recent like like you said game CH the game changer or do you think like the the carbon would I I think the original epic Subzero was a that was
Really the to get the low spin and consistency that was a very very impressive head even go back to that that was the first one with the jailbreak Tech um when did that come out how many years ago go is that um H good question probably there’s so
Many models in between that’s it’s probably again that five six years ago that was the first one they used the jailbreak to stop the head deforming as much so now they they’re using other materials and and structures that mean they don’t need to but um to use that same sort of
Frame um enhancement do you still think there’s technology and distance and more consistency in the tank for future releases distance is very hard to argue that there is simply because they’ve limited ball speed off the middle of the face there’s only so much you can do with the ballistics of launch and spin
So I think the where there is a slight their slight gain F to have his bull speed across the face and probably actually spin consistency across the face because a heel strike spins so much that you lose a lot of efficiency on flight um we’re getting towards it where the toes
Getting less low spin volatile the heels getting less High spin volatile so we’re seeing it starting to level off out um so you think that’s the direction they’re going and there is still there still stuff left in the place there’s anywhere left I think which is to do
Some with the actual the the rigidity of the frame where the weight condition we’re starting to see setups now where if you remove a load of weight from the front of the head so if you take some of the the current callaways where you’ve got you know a very light carbon Center
The face is relatively heavy and then a heavy weight at the back the max version for example or the qi1 in the max there’s a load of weight at the back which if you if you rotate in in a down swing that weight at the back actually
Holds the face open right so there’s a if you have a certain swing style there are now heads that actually it’s hard to control the face with the weight as far back so I play a weight forward head um because it just opens up on me
And I’ve then got to turn it back in um so there yeah the theory of the 10K kind of forgiveness drivers are great but actually there are some players It Hurts by moving that much weight from the face so they’re little bit inevitably they’ll they’ll something will come and you go
Oh I didn’t see that coming um I just think now with drivers we’re so close to limit that the rest is marketing the I think it’s getting hard to tangibly say right this head is definitely going to be better that like if you got one that’s 5 six years old
Okay yeah like we can improve Off Center performance from that one yeah without doubt um ball speed maintenance you know the composite face you’ve gone um 60 layers of carbon they’ve saved 15% of the face weight that’s quite a lot um I might be a wrong stat might be more than
That um but that then allows them to redistribute the weight so it improves the balance of the head off center so there’ve been from that kind of era to this there’s been tangible gain across the board um but the middle of the face isn’t going to be any any hotter than
That right yeah cuz they’re not allowed to be let’s give this one a crack so slightly bigger look of head on this one are a little B felt nice was quite nice yeah should it’s a friend of mine says you should find that one again what’s what’s actually quite
Nice with that swing this also shows how well the Sha sets up in that um we’ve just stood it’s a bit like waiting on a t for things to we just stood chatting away and then B we’re still in very very neutral position so that backs up it’s
Not just a case of having hit load this is quite nice do it yeah that works that works yeah the path face to path hair open again so the fa the club face open just a half a degree so it’s that same pattern neutral defraction open sent to
A hair toe that the two just sort of cancel one another Ro yeah and very one day one day one day I would like to see a Zer across I think there’s an element of luck in that highly instagrammable moment that yeah same same thing slightly toes side with
A slightly open face that the two can see one more there’s on face Valley it looks like this isn’t quite as quick as the tailor mate which can be down to both a little bit of aerodynamics on the head um you efficiency still pretty good but we look
Like we’re a couple of to a couple of miles an hour down on uh Club speed and ball speed yeah because the last one was again one very very consistent balls weon 163 on the nose both times um but 166 on average with the top now okay
Let’s let’s just take out the effort swing 165 so couple of miles an hour down right both on Club speed and ball speed versus the tailor made a little flippy that one that one had a little bit more speed to it I it’s it’s one it’s Inc it’s
Doing exactly what a ping driver does it’s very very very stable very very consistent I I I really like the way the sh swings that that’s I’m really happy with that yeah um yeah I like but it’s again grouping wise very similar it’s just it’s a
Little less fast um so you’re five yards that’s and the effort swing is still out of the T so you’re five yards back but slightly higher flight but not enough to be a concern but just a little less pop I’ll just check the other two I mean
That would that’s still you know a very very sound option if you’re 300 yards plus then a few yards is not yeah especially if it’s a little straighter this is really why we fit I’ve always fitted sha first because I want to get the timing and the the line
Through the Ballers neutral as possible and then we can really gauge how the heads performing because then we’re not you’re not s of trying to find contact or managing the swing you’re just moving on it so you can see ultimately where the differences in the heads are the sh
Sure feel bit about finding as stable a timing as possible um and then head governs a little bit of ball picture flly get a slightly heavier weight for the yeah batas are they yeah yeah we typically after we did the piece at Christmas about like old school hit
Reeson things we then found the BLS after we’ done it oh nice so uh they feel amazing though what like nice and soft off the face with with a wooden head those in a wooden wooden wood are a wooden yeah amazing I hit a wooden head
For the first time last year just CU my dad had one and I took it on the course the feel of it off the face is just like just feels so you obviously got to strike it good but that off yeah there is zero margin of error n none that was
One things that we s was that if you missed it it went sideways yeah and one of those things spins 1500 RS more with a driver so hence you had to launch it low to then let it spin up but um such a a
Uh quite a big um I can’t think of the word quite a big deal to try and like minimize spin get it through the wind work quality of strike and manipulation of flight was so so critical per the distance was less of an issue because if
You put if you tried to hit it too hard and you miss it you just you Dro back 30 yards um or it went sideways into the Heather or the ruffle so that’s where someone like Greg Norman with the driver with a wooden wood and a bataa was so
Far ahead of other players and then the moment where they went metalwoods and into the ti into the prov1 star ball it just you know took away most of his Advantage um still long and great driver the ball but the batra and the woodenwood just separated them from
Everyone else right he had that much of an advantage so good ball speed a little left yeah toe for a tow strike so quite interesting not much more of a tow strike than the other heads but that’s geared it a little bit more so again delivery still one degree open to path
Really good ball speed but that’s just punished you a little bit more for the strike the club Speed come come up a bit than as opposed to the little bit um I suppose that’s just a question of consistency if it is yeah that one’s quite interesting because the other two
Heads didn’t and that’s where the twist face on the tailor made it starts at a little bit more right before the gearing taking effect and the Ping potenti just being a little bit better so I found this head where my Miss is generally slightly out the heel is unbelievable
Slightly out the heel right but that’s probably where it’s just slightly less good for you out the too right what did you say this it’s the The Sweet Spot is more towards the heel then H or is it just more so to do the stuff more it can just be the scaling I’m
Going to move the weight just a little little towards the toe line just to see if we can mitigate some of that some of that gearing it’s where you the C we heads again have historically been very good out the heel but a little knuckly out
The toe on the low spin ones so some Brands and base designs have always just been a little bit better out of certain bits of the head than others okay that looked good that looked A really lovely move through the ball okay yeah it’s a bit more spin just not quite
As efficient on the flight it felt quite nice but um yeah little than I thought it would but it’s just not as the spin proportions just up a little bit right I like these I I just got a mauno mauno one for my for my flat
Um they just look quite cool don’t they nice little office piece what do you what do you store in there old range balls nothing at the moment chucked a few wires in there just couldn’t couldn’t be bothered to find a home for them they are things like that are fun
There’s a um looking at getting a uh a good friend of ours out in the states who does uh of um wooden Flags it’s called Old Glory 1350 um so we’re getting a display kind of flagged on for here at some point and just stuff like that just really cool
Yeah yeah so cool it okay it’s going to get slightly heavier weake for this again just fun to have stuff like that around as well I had realized that Caba leather was only used in golf cloves pretty much exclusively golf gloves yeah there are some women’s
Fashion gloves that use it and like some handbags as well but it’s really that’s it’s probably I mean I don’t know the the percentage wise but it’s probably 99.5% not thinking about branching out into handbags if there’s money there and if the price is right I’ll do it g X
Handbags what does The X stand for um Excellence okay yeah golfing Excellence which is a you a lot of people ask that question as well that’s um okay that’s decent ball speed one of the things we found with this is it does have that little bit of a lower it’s
It’s quite a low spin head so Paradigm Triple Diamond last year um was was pretty low spin and the AI smoke this year is pretty low so where it’s been good if for example if you’re looking to see a little bit more launch so up up
And out flight this head allows you to go allows to go a little more base Loft to keep and and get the spin low so more of up and over more of a sort of Rainbow Flight a little bit more yeah so that one you 11.3 launch 1900 spin um get
Very very similar strike point to everything else um but it’s likely to just keep the spin down a little bit so the only question mark on this is then again if that side of if you don’t leave the face open you get the same strike point does it nose Di a little bit
That’s the only question marked to but as a you know from a raw yardage point of view this will be long okay callaways are notorious for that aren’t they just to being for being like quite long drivers when they’ve I guess I’m say got it right um they they’ve had
Some pretty long hitting heads over the years but they’ve generally always been um actual measured Loft slightly higher Loft to other brands as a result of that so get as a as a clumper to get high launch low spin they’ve always been good but if you tend to prefer seeing the
Fight a little bit flatter that’s then where the tailor made naturally keeps the launch down just a touch more relative to spin right so um it’s kind of a bit horses for hor courses in terms of ball flight and just on this I think whether if you haven’t
Got the face two or three open and you get the same strike point does that drop down to 1,700 gra if it does then that could just you a bunk you’re trying to carry that could then just want to fall out the sky a little bit so that’s the only question
Mar I mean it’s the nicest Callaway driver I’ve seen in a long time this this is really look I think they’re kind of the they’re showing the weave and the composite on the crown versus the blue I think quite a lot quite a lot of people
Like that right um I think just the general shape of it is quite nice this year um solid feeling head as well yeah that was toad okay not a horrendous Miss just see dropped a little bit more speed might just be worth seeing one more of that okay I
Think I think if you were just looking for the one lassu every now and then I think this would probably give you that one that jumped out there a little further right um I think for kind you could argue potentially ultimate consistency and safety may be the Ping I still wonder
Whether all around performance of Taylor May slightly better right time was off on that one I think a little there okay so slightly more and it’s only a few hits here if I look at one element I’m of looking at here is the and it’s just gone off screen the
The number underneath tolerance so the best one for spin tolerance you can see here is the tailor made right 250 and that’s 430 so that’s almost three well it’s not quite double but it’s not a million miles off double the Tolerance on high low spin so again that consistency of pitcher flight if
You get a little low on the face or a little toe side the the spread in spins quite heavy so you’re going from you know 29 with one to to 1900 whereas tailor made it’s 26 to 1900 so for me I would then take that out
Because I think just that being able to see a more stable pitch of flight yeah I think it’s more more important that that one that might just run seven yards further again going between to get the Ping pretty pretty stable to spin as well yeah um so pulling those back
Together um you know ball speed on the tight list and the cway are both pretty good but the the spin relative to launch angle on the tight list wasn’t wasn’t quite as good um and we can see where launch angles a little bit flatter um and then the the the volatility is the
Exaggerated word for it but the extended spin variation with the Callaway for you just not quite as good as well do does a spin you said this number is called volatility like yeah to is this um does that relate somewhat to um how off how off center the ball
Goes because of the it can do from a towy point of view if that kind of Knuckles off it can that can get away left a little bit more um it just means you’re a little bit more susceptible to conditions so if you if you get a little
Bit low like that lost a little on the strike up goes the spin and then it’s more affected by U by any kind of wind or anything like that right um so you know being able to control the flight and pick a flight window take at your
Kind of level you know seeing the same thing one the reliability shot after shot after shot you just know what you’re going to get out of it so um a little bit of carry distance um compromise as well um so rather than just being ball speed related and how
Hard you hit it it’s then right wear on the face is just a little bit more punishing put the tone move back on and that’s you know certainly one of the things that you know on tour they’re always just looking for a combination that delivers the trajectory window that
They’re comfortable seeing but but a really narrow Tolerance on that sure so that they know standing over it you know playing a playing whichever Hall they’re on they they know what flight is going to come out they know what carry distance they know what kind of run out given whichever set of conditions
They’re playing in week and week out they can accurately predict what the ball’s going to do through the air and on Landing so strategy on right I can’t reach that pond I can’t reach that bunker I can definitely carry that rather than going you know what the good
One carries it but if I get it a bit T it Knuckles and it’s in yeah um those sort of I small Marin it’s still not performing wul badly but the other two are just a little bit more more sa yeah speed Slightly SL okay sting a hand some good ball speed slightly lower launch a little bit squeezed to some of the others I quite like the consistent like I’ve seen a lot of them flights with this this particular Club yeah uh like that felt like a nice swing but it
Didn’t feel like I thought maybe if I maybe if I hit that with my driver or another one it I feel like I don’t know if it’s just how it’s luck or whatever but I feel like it probably would have gone off center a little more I feel
Like these I feel like this goes this is quite like forgiving in terms of um tightness of the misses doing it as a head or just the the the whole thing the whole thing relative to what you’re current on or with that head and Sh particularly with my current with
And with like compared to the others as well I just feel like don’t know if the numbers show that particularly but that’s just how I’m feeling right now yeah I think from a I’ll put on total from a total there were lots let me just clear out some of these we don’t need
There are a few of those we we’re not not so worried about with different sha so let me just get rid of the ones that we’re we’re going through the shaft tests okay so yeah with the which one was that one with that was with your current driver so again that
Drop back on a m hit with your current driver so that’s that’s slly kind of wider um distance progression W right a little bit more with the Callaway maybe a little more front back dispersion that’s the spin variation um there was one right with that setup but generally speaking I mean
Actually I mean dispersion with this shaft generally you know we’ve that was the tight list um which is where it geared a little more the tight list with the Ping in the tailor Mage we’ we’ve eliminated eliminated this goes substantially left um I think
It’s some of it is if if the if it gives you the feeling of a bit of confidence with it that can s CU actually from a a shot pattern dispersion it’s not that dissimilar it’s very similar to where the uh where the Ping is um and even the
Callaway was just directionally very consistent but just a little more volatility up and down on the spin okay um so I think that shaft and balance Dynamic that’s the bit that gives you the Left Right control um and I think really for me between the two heads give
Or take a few yards I think it’s if there’s one that either just feels more comfortable hit with or just whether one might feel a bit hotter one might feel a bit more stable you we’ll get couple more with this and we’ll switch back to
The Ping and see if hitting a few more ending stands out but um they’re they’re both going to time more cleanly than your current setup and therefore that’s the bit that because you’re having to do less through the ball to to manage the club face you’re
Just turning on it so there’s less that can go wrong because it doesn’t require you to manage the face so you’re just clearing through and that’s the bit of the tighten up the dispersion okay you know if the numbers are very similar it can literally be very subjective with just a just
Having played tailor made you like the brand like the feel um because ultimately you’ve got to look forward to hitting it Yeah that one just came over it a little bit more yeah felt that that is no good that was a little um sort of that that was one looked like just had that little bit of a stand up and rolled it cuz path didn’t get out to in
On it that just rolled the face a little we’ll give it one more and I’ll switch so the path so this path stayed one into out and that’s the face relative to path so face closed in a little B okay but path stayed a little bit into out right
Oh this way yeah yeah okay that’s interesting that because I feel like when I when I do that it feels like it’s going like this okay but it’s actually like so so you’d say it’s more going like this kind of thing yeah I think that’s you see I
Think that’s where the head the head rolls and therefore the the kind of the the head travels that way rather than the handle going that way and so it’s it’s that rotation and the head going over there that feels like everything’s gone left on you so the handle going
Going this way is actually like pushing it pushing the face more yeah so that one as the club went that way the they had that little bit more of that going on so so the head starts to turn left I think that’s where that feeling of it
And the ball travels that way that’s where the feeling of everything going that way comes in rather than turning there in the face staying stable I feel like if I can just nail that move then I’ve just yeah then it eliminates that one all together then all have solved
Golf if I can just do this one thing yeah and that’s how I’m sure that’s probably how every golfer feels about um about something in their game is they just varies day to day that’s the problem yeah just do that better yeah but he’s stayed in posture
Better on that one that yeah that felt Line Drive yeah that’s the one that’s again that’s slight that’s s open slight toe strike slight draw so I think the one before was one with that that going back to just having that little a stand up that you stayed
With it a bit better stay with it yeah pop it’s a really nice strong set of numbers well yeah I’m glad it shows that when I do sort of I have been able to hit a few swings today where I’ve sort of kept it nice a bit more Square you
Know I’ve shown a bit more um Improvement in there yeah I mean that’s that’s being that really very very very neutral Square delivery um and so the nice thing is because there’s a tendency on the club face then you there’s a a general shot shape just from a swing
Line tendency and then just depending on the strike it either holds its line or just turns a fraction or if you get it middle middle it’s just going to bleed right just an absolute fraction yeah based on where we are with the weight when we went heavier in the driver shaft
When we tipped it up over 80 um and it got a little behind I would not go heavy on the grip really on the dri in the driver yeah okay because we saw the moment we tipped it over 80 g it started to get behind
And then flip so essentially if we go to a um if we take something like the lampin the crossline midsize that’s a 645 g grip versus a 56 57 g grip so you’re then pushing that extra weight into the club again so the handle then doesn’t quite come with you and then the
Head flips because we’d have to up the head weight to counter the heavier grip yeah so you’re then pushing eight nine grams into the club dead weights so like regardless of how I feel and like why what I like feel with the clubs from what you’ve seen
Today would you do you agree with me having these gri much weight complely regardless of what I feel probably not right um I think there’s a there’ll be it might have been that where they were before before putting those in was a little too bottom end heavy so by
Alleviating that that it felt more comfortable um but I think it would be interesting to to do a test with some different grip weights on a club of that length that shaft and see right where is The Sweet Spot with it um because I
Would say at you know C4 and a half of that length there’s very little natural FL in the bottom end um it’s just that your technique’s good enough to make it work right but I think your control and shot shaping and you know the ones if you’re not just playing a stock swing
That’s where I think the the performance is likely to drop off where they’re at right because there’s just not the natural flow of weight they you’re swinging very much in that top end you’re swinging the grip rather than the head so if you’re just on the Range
Hitting balls you you’ll be able to you know laser it but the moment you have a you fly it down or fade it a little bit draw it a little bit play a 3/4 shot that’s where the fine controls likely to not quite be there right and I’m sure it it
Um does all sorts of stuff to the kick point the stuff like that so it won’t change that it literally is just shifting weight up and down so it doesn’t change the way the shaft bends um and actually because the mass on the Bottom’s the same it doesn’t change how
That loads the shaft it just change it’s it’s like there just sticking a load of weight under your hands yeah um so it changes the dead weight and then the balance point in the club so therefore how it so it’s no different than um well okay actually it’s slightly different
But than you know taking a club and turning it around you know the total weight of the club’s the same but where the weight sits is differently Now by putting weight in there the total weight has changed and so you still got the mass on the bottom you then loaded up
The grip and so with the same acceleration pattern the sh’s going to load and bend same way but it’s just how much has that way changed the connection between you and the club and then what you’ve got to do to put it on the back of the ball
Right interesting yeah would you so also would you say that there’s kind of like a uh not only the the weight is so but there’s vastly different to a weight of like a driver and like where that swing weight is do you think that’s like quite
That do you think that’s damaging at all to have clubs that to be swinging a six line and then trade to a driver where where it’s so much different uh yeah because your essentially because the the flow of the weight’s different your timing is got to be different than one
To the next so at standard length quite often the swing rate of the driver and the six on are very very close now those are longer than standard so that shifts the parameters a little bit um but if we’re at basically D4 on this to be 10
Swing light points lighter on that that and say it’s kind of different that way around in that we’ve it’s heavier rather than losing weight in the head to lose swing weight it’s heavier grip end to lose swing weight so it’s not quite as it’s not quite as vast a
Difference as it kind of appears um but it will still affect your ability to switch from Club to club and get this and put the same feel as right yeah cuz I I I have I have one of them grips in my two iron and I feel
Like I just don’t have that much control with that and I think that’s probably and it’s a it’s a graphite shot sha in the two iron so it’s probably something proportionally you got 130 odd G shaft in your irons and 90 odd in the two iron
Even if it’s 100 it’s still you know proportionally you’re moving more of that weight around so will as the sharf gets lighter it affects that the way it swings more and more and more right okay we got some Zer there very very very do have some zeros very very zero
Slightly lower on Cinder so a little bit more spin Um up a little as well from uh from the uh previous Swings with that is it so yeah you’re kind of one 10 through on 12 and that’s got a little bit more and I think I think what this head’s going to give you is the maximum Left Right
Control I think yeah it looks like that that gives a little bit more yardage being a little lower spin um so you 168 ball speed on that versus exactly the same ball SP with the previous one the Taylor Made now that was also marginally toeside marginally
High the face however I I think yeah that’s the kind of the exaggerated difference between them I think the tailor has a little bit more shot shake to it a little bit more left right dispersion but is a bit longer depend how much how much longer is the I mean
Average wise average is about four yards carry or total or both two or three couple couple carry four four total okay um so it’s it’s not huge and this is the thing between there really not not a lot between the two um but that would be the
Slight you if if you played some if you playing your golf on the links I give you the tailmate every time because that lower spin is just going through um playing Inland golf that’s that’s still hair higher than I’d want to see it but that was a
Little bit below Center than is that one that’s you know two and a half thousand it’s still probably three what was the spin difference on average yeah 300 revs difference or so um so it’s it’s not so much that one’s going to be as we can see from that’s a few
Yards it’s not like 10 15 yards shorter given if you play in stronger wind conditions regularly that spin is going to affect you a little bit more so um if you’re playing someone where carry carry distance was most important the high spin is not the worst thing in the world
Um for UK conditions the the slightly lowest spin would be where I generally are if you’re in Arizona the high spin might not be the worst thing in the world so um but if we can squeeze out another five or six yards and into wind you’re going to look at 10 to 12
Yards downwind less of a difference then there’s just a little extra from a shot value point of view in there so so think this would be this would be a stronger the TA made for that that would be a stronger Club when it comes to like wind windier conditions yeah yeah
Because it naturally just keeps it’s not like this is a high spin head but naturally keeps the spin a little bit lower so it’s just going to B through wind that little bit more yeah so the top of the flight is going to have that kind of flatter forward rather than just
Holding at the top of the flight a little bit more okay and if you prefer visually the slightly stronger flight then that also the tailor made leads to that too I am quite um impressed with the consistency of this one you know one we just body stalled out a
Little bit that’ll be a little hair left yeah hair left but not not shaping hard go to the top slightly higher up place okay that you know that’s probably the one where slightly higher toe but yeah that still one with slightly higher toe but still spun so Carry’s not great because the angle
Attack got a little bit more down on to it rather than neutral to slightly or but very flat to slightly up so I think as you say the Left Right dispersion is very very impressive on the Ping that TR the tailor made trumps it the strength of flight yeah
So I think you when when you see those sort of numbers that’s that’s a nice three-wood spin um so strongest through but still it’s starting to get up a little bit and then that that’s just a little bit storyy so for me I just to that head from an it’s marginal call but
An all round point of view I think that just gives you just a say a little bit more consistency yeah top bottom in terms of spin P off little bit more punch on the flight the consistency that you that I find in this might probably pay off when it comes to windier
Conditions with that would you say yeah I think it’s it’s not like we’re seeing you know big terms face to path numbers there’s point two of a difference on average um you it’s and if we’re looking at side total it’s a matter of a few feet tolerance of you say a little bit
More there one a little that little bit loopy one is just exaggerating a little bit but um yeah I I think the extra flight strength on the um on the tail for me just that’s the bit that as an all around Club I think the fact that
That that that’s in there from the tailor made that puts you Club closer to the green so um and it’s not like it’s not like we’re seeing you know three left four right there’s the odd one like one you still up a little bit on that’s luk left fine
That’s going to happen every now and then um but then go back to that feel that you’re working on you just lasered it down the middle with as as strong a fight as you’re going to see um and in a yeah again that’s a really really upper mid launch lower mid spin that’s
Absolutely perfect in terms of getting that bit of a bore to the flight but without it coming out flat so to me that just edges it that’s you like that you want to prop the tail Mo back on yeah go on that one in there I think is in previous years it
Would have been more sort of more of a choice to be made of the the one that lass and goes miles but more left right dispersion versus you the very kind of steady safe one that you give up a little bit more yardage but you don’t
Get any of the volatility but or or rather you marginally much less of it so um I think this is where the crossface performance on all of them now has got so much better yeah that it becomes a a more marginal decision is that combination yeah and that that one that one just
Backs it up that one’s then middle middle middle again really nice still it’s it’s it’s not got that up in spin again as a put it under here it doesn’t get the upper half of that spin yeah so it yeah close to your zero down
Nearly but it means you can play that a little bit of a f without without the worry of it having the the fade that turns into the stalling fade just play that little bit of a bleed and it’s still still still kind of arrowing forward getting through
Yeah without then having to get the launch angle low to stop it correctly that’s just say made up a mid on the launch but then a very very stable spin rate right see where stri was on that pretty St so just turned turned a little bit Loft
Down on that one yeah I felt that sort of come out quite flat great ball speed set on a hard a hard day run quite a bit on it but there’s enough there’s still enough launch it so yeah we don’t want it lower than that yeah but it’s done that from
That kind of neutral strike point so looks quite good it’s back to that slight fade move so and then that that’s back to that slight fade move slight toe strike and you know we’re now seeing you last four 312 37 313 312 um yeah and just by virtue of keeping that spin a
Bit flatter but again back into slight open face slight tow strike that’s actually just then brought it into as as good a result as a really middled out hit so right let’s have a little look this just at the the sizing of the grip and where actually the taper
Fits let’s take a grip of it as if you’re going to hit and then yeah so you absolutely wouldn’t want to go any smaller you could there’s a little bit of extra kind of dig in there you could go a hair it’s a feel that you could go a hair
Bigger I wouldn’t want to go bigger in the bottom hand actually looking at that that’s filling out that finger nicely so sometimes you have to reduce the tapering so dep looking at kind of hand how hands are sort of made up depending on the the length in your bottom hand
Here see you’re you’re kind of like me your hand comes back a little bit so it’s not overly long there so you get others that go really long in that or the Palm kicks out a bit more so kind of diagonal length is a bit longer but for
You and probably also being left hand dominant that that hand’s less likely to do something on toward um so you we’re not looking to necessarily quien down that right hand as long as it fits in it can hand can rest on the grip nicely comfortably um then then for left hand
Player it’s more important that we make sure it that hand really well this one yeah one so so you could go just a fraction an extra layer or so be interesting to see on this that so is that is that is that a one one WP this is a a single WP midsize
Yeah same it’s one of those where it’s a mixture of theory and practice I think with where the rest of the set is um it’s I quite like the feel of this one I think it’s a marginal call it’s not one we look and go right there’s
Load of like overlap and dig in yes we must go bigger you know it’s already the frame size is already a little bit bigger so I think it would be quite a different field to go any more than a midsize yeah but may maybe like a a layer or two you
You could go an extra layer or so um I think it’s one way if it’s comfortable I’d be disinclined to risk making it feel like a cricket but handle right um and also we’re not it’s not like you’re wrapping it around left and we’re trying
To kind of make sure we fill it out so you you get less of that rotation um I think making sure it stays in the fingers rather than going to the palm of your hand is going to be important again being left hand dominant you can that
Keeps the feel in the fingers a little bit more and I think if we go too big potentially could lose a bit of sensation with the club B it’s why it’s it’s almost more of a that’s more of an issue for you being left-handed than right hand where you’re generally in
Your dominant hand it’s hard to go too big unless the frame size is massive right um so I don’t want to be in a situation where in fingers of your left hand you kind of lose that sensation for Club if it goes into the palm of it it
Can it can become a little bit muffled in terms of sensing where it is relative to your hand position where it is in the swing so making sure it stays in the fingers is a little bit more important right than just going bigger for the sake bigger one would sort of would put
It in the Palm more is that what you’re saying yeah down here yeah it’s just such repeating timing with that sh set up yeah just another one up around the 310 mark down the right side of the Fairway so so grip grip type is a bit of a
Tactile thing so the Tor velvet is a very similar feel to that yeah what have you got on so the the multic compound midsize is marginally heavier but not much a few grams um and then check on the wedges I got those in the wedges
Okay I always found that the that the uh multi compound in this if if this is standard but it feels slightly m size yes less tape it in the bottom hand so in your right hand it’s going to feel not a million miles off the midsize but the top hand’s
Fairly stand okay so it’s not doing less of this and more just like that the plus four is like they kind of building up the bottom Hand by four layers so going one two three four five I see um so oh that’s why it’s plus
Four but we need the extra scale in the top hand as well so we went the plus four in the mid sizee one it’s very heavy but then the bottom hand ends up like a jumbo right got you I’ll get a few grips to the the right kind of
Weight that give us that bigger size so that t so but so repeating in we’re almost there we’re almost there you going be here all all night till you get KN n n so grip type is is all about how much tread and feel so the to Velvet
Is just a standard fairly soft feeling grip yeah of which they do that which the white paint in there makes it feel slightly different but essentially it’s the same base standard rubber fractionally bigger tread pattern on it fractionally but you’re very very similar you’ve got the multic compound
On your 3-w and and the driver currently yeah um it’s a few grams bigger you’ve got the cording on the top hand few grams bigger few grams heavier um so it does push the weight a little bit um but only a couple of grams so um probably if
Unless you really like that one I’d probably prefer based on what we’ve tested they probably prefer to stay with one of the others that is just a stand out Choice I’ve never been someone who who uh has to stick with a grip so to speak so would you
Probably avoid so keep the weight here so that one if you like the cording The Zed cords one of them that’s going be a little bit firmer okay yeah feels all right and that’s a totally different material so it’s a so are these similar these are all similar
These ones Weight Wise Weight Wise yeah identical yeah whereas that one it’s got a decent bit of tread to it but but it’s a it’s not a rubber different polymer so it’s like a tacky I feel right or you do have just the I I do
Like like how this feels for sure I think it’s I’m quite I’ve I’ve used these quite a lot before in the past as well um there’s they’ve been around a long time but there’s nothing nothing wrong with them at all they’re a fairly if you want to b a fairly basic grip but
Actually they they still have that little bit of sof and and I wouldn’t call it tackiness there there is a bit of grip there are rougher grips but it all depends on how your skin texture is and as to what feels nice you got to
Like the feel of it in hand so um you know it’s a very it’s a very similar feel to what you got in your arms um but just cuz it’s a simple group doesn’t make it a bad I think before these as well I had lamkins I’ve had I’ve had t
Velvets as well in the past I quite like the feel that there’s like not much going on there is it’s doing its job as a grip you know so the final question on that would be whether you’d want it that way around where you got the Golf Pride on the top
Or you can put it to be logo down so it’s just you and Club face I quite like it up like that um I got taught by Lee scarber back in the day okay and he he he he as this sticks with me now even you set your
Grip beforehand and I like I like to see that Golf Pride there so I can just put my hand in the same place every time you know yeah yeah that’s that’s my reasoning behind that perfect so essentially it’s it’s an update on the head and by virtue of the um the
Composite face the structure of the head there’s just better offc Center Performance retaining the low spin element to it which is where the Sim would have been a greate but you sight he and Tois is is just much better um with this um same ° standard off setting
That works great the um the movable weight we can position you know as it is Central is good you could move it marginally toe side but I think you that’s something that can be toyed around with a little bit but I would I think ER to neutral there’s not enough
Of a Tois to try to move all the weight out there um I think and it actually can kind of help just hold it from bleeding a little bit but that’s easily easily changed should you wish to but I think I’d start off with the neutral position
And so just me sell neutral now yeah yeah back in the middle you ever see you find yourself moving that around much for yourself or for other people it would only really be if there was a really notable pattern of Miss out out on the toe side your always is very very
Marginal um so you you might move it one notch just of little notches in the in the um in the sliding way there um or if someone’s misses in the heel side then yeah you slide that into the heel but it’s got to be a relatively notice one if you’re close to Center
Then it’s not going to do too much you don’t want to over moove it and then find you’re gearing gearing the wrong way right um so I think for where your strike pattern is um I would I would leave it central on this okay and then shaft wise were up
Five five or six grams but um structur a little bit more Stout um but a very very neutral balance similar to your um the hazard of smoke in that um but it’s a structurally more rigid shaft um and just that few grams heavier which just bound everything together and then keep
The grip work nice and neutral and then just like we play for come together try and keep them trying to keep as many zeros on the on the on the really what was nice really reliable shot shape really reliable um where you’re face to path and strike pattern
Came in um really consistent flight and spin and uh yeah yeah once I sort of got that I think the mix of the of having a club that was felt so good and I could feel like I was committing to felt more comfortable swinging through it once
I’ve sort of and then I sort of you I could give it a little more got the club speed up up a little as well yeah and it just looked like you’re able to put put that move on repeat rather than have that variability of just having to put
The clubhead find that find the strike point this just like just turn onto it and go um hence that that left right dispersion I think that’s what’s stopping a bit of my consistency as well on in in my golf is that um if I can
Take this what we’ve done sort of in the latter part of the fitting yeah with this club and take it onto the golf course I can really sort of get committed to the drivers get a few more wedges in get a few more around the green more birdy chances and stuff like
That um and what we’re seeing as well is where you focus on start line that start line because the path and the face to PA are stabilized that that start line going the stabilize so it’s not going to be hang and that started further left than I thought okay then kind of
Reorient your sights it’s just a case of right that’s where I wanted to start Point shoot and it’s starting down that line or a fraction right of it it’s not starting left of it and so um I think that again just the confidence to say right that that’s my spot go at it
Rather than going what if I pull one yeah and that’s the shot that me is kind of gone there’s the odd one that goes very slightly left but it’s the odd one rather than the all starting left and having to cut back you’re not having to
Play the fade back to Target it’s just Stand and Deliver either stays on line or it just drops a little bit right there’s not much yeah manufacturing anymore yeah when it comes to this this one as opposed to my driver on a on a less than good day with that it’s more
Manufacturing a shot kind of all right which you know you can you can still play all right for with that but it is just not can you string four rounds together with that it’s tough probably not yeah probably not whereas you know you if your if your swings in a solid
Place you you know you know where this is going to go rather than it should so yeah yeah exactly good result yeah thank you very much old
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Does tip weight help you swing more in to out?
What glove was he using? 😇
What shaft length and swing weight did you end up at? If at 45", do you add extra weight to the head or does the extra shaft weight avoid the need?
Secondly, I noticed you didn't talk about loft very much. What did you end at?
Another fantastic fit Simon 👍🏾👏🏽👏🏽 loved the conversations you and George had between shots. I learned alot watching this one as George asked some key/interesting questions.
One question i have is, would it have been a possibility to lower the loft on the Ping to lose 200-300 revs so as to try and match the Taylormade.
My uneducated guess is that it would have opened the face slightly and compromised dispersion.
Can't wait for the next one 👍🏾😅
For a player with a relatively low AoA with the driver would more loft be beneficial? George seemed to launch around 9deg but from fittings I’ve had this is a little low?