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Undefeated yo what’s going on people welcome to another episode of The Undefeated podcast it’s the undefeated podcast but it’s different bro very different it’s very different because we said you know what they need more content fam absolutely they we said they need interviews and we said who are we

Going to get first round Chris Congo it’s time oh no hold on let me drop that bomb again hold on hold on I’m a disgrace cuz I W loud enough I weren loud enough to drop the bom right there fam that’s the bomb fam it’s there you

Go fam that’s listen Congo welcome bro what’s going on bro thank you thank you thank you lad you know I’m not hiding the water here because we’re safe in it yeah of course we’re safe bro why are people why are people scared of you with water bottles fam why did you why did

You have sky looking like that talk to us listen listen listen you know me I don’t do all of that stuff but when someone’s about that you got to be ready was just ready in him I was like what let me have my water in it he’s got his

Water yeah he talks like he’s he says he’s well behaved but we’ve all seen him causing Havoc all the time yeah so I wanted to be prepared myself all right so look let’s let’s let’s we’re getting straight into itra let’s go to the let’s let’s bring to listeners Floria Maru

Chris Co it’s been announced woo it’s been announced bro how’ you feel man cuz it’s been a while we’ve been looking forward to this fight we’ve been talking about it for a minute I feel good man I feel good um everyone’s been waiting for this fight to happen it’s been talked

About for how long yeah and now it’s here and you look going to see the result in couple couple weeks so yeah man ready we ready this is personal is it this is personal cuz I be honest bro when that when that last press conference happened and you man were

Doing the shopping thing yeah I W happy that you didn’t get your you mean I didn’t like it right now you need to get your you bro get back is needed from you yeah man you caught me slipping man was in Croc and that so now man need to get

My thing yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely boxing shoes on yeah certified next time boots shorts gloves it’s Peak all right come so let’s look we’ll get we’ll get back to the Maru F all right it’s it’s it’s nice to see you back in the mix cuz

I be like this this period of like quiet time what’s been going on bro too much it’s too much but hey I’ve been there waiting ready to fight whoever um like I said to Gary Logan the other day I got my shorts at boxfit and it has a date of

May when they are ready so they’ve been ready since May so I’ve been basically ready since May last year but why then so what’s you say you’ve been ready since May what’s been stopping you because obviously like in terms of management and stuff you like what like your management situation you with you

Part of you was a dillian white fighter right yeah yeah are you still a dillian white fighter right now not anymore wellmore no we just went our separate ways I went my way he went his way oh you’re giving us the proper BBC where again Sky Sports this is kind of Scar

Are you are you met in the same group chat still like is it still like is it love or did it end like ah we don’t speak no more but that’s cool we don’t speak no more it’s actually cool I I ain’t got no problem with him so when

New Years came around you say hey bro happy New Year thank you for all the management how you led my career and how you brought me into the light and that I did it oh we know I think get happy New Year isn’t it he’s he’s getting on he’s he’s

Got a lot to deal with at the moment so I’m probably the last person he’s going to wish Happy New Year too but it is what it is we move on in it we’re growing up so I’m not I’m not too fuss about it but like that seemed like a

Decent situation for you like in terms of like just reg how regularly you were out you know what I mean so so when did it end then we can kind of look at the timeline of events like how did it cuz me we can speculate ourselves we’re good

At that we just need to know details for speculation this ended about September October and obviously I was still ready and then I had a a little niggle in December which kind of put me back but yeah towards the end of December January that’s when I was back training so yeah

It’s just it’s one of one of them ones man what can I say so when you’re out of the ring right yeah and you’re watching the world go by CU that’s what it must feel like when you see fights get announced and what’s what’s the energy like when you’re training you I mean

What is what does that feel like cuz I know like nowadays we see a lot of fights happening and there’s different promotional sais in the mix but there’s still a lot of guys who were just left out the mix of course I think um obviously you don’t you don’t feel too

Good in it but the the main thing is you just just got to keep training man if you if you really want something you got to put your heart and soul into it and like I said before I’m riding to the wheels full off bro man is I might even

Retire same age as when Bernard Hopkins retired bro one of them ones I’m going I’m going I’m trying to like literally right to the Rules full off so what is that are we gonna like where where does that come from cuz I hear when I hear Fighters talk about it I almost feel

Like some Fighters fall into boxing like yeah I could fight and that’s the only options I had so I’m a do this till I get enough bread and I’m gone like you’re sounding like no this is this is me and this is what I’m on whatever yeah

This this is me this is it I don’t think um obviously i’ I’m I’m into a few things outside of boxing but this is the only thing I pretty much enjoy bro I I’ll be so real like I I don’t know what I’ll do with at the moment all right so

Let’s start from the beginning then how boxing how did how does Chris Congo end up in the boxing gym what happened what’s the story I was I started at Fisher um ABC in buray so my two brothers they started before me yeah but I wasn’t boxing I used to just go to the

Gym cuz it was a youth club okay so man used to do the football You Know It Go table tennis and you know what I mean you got the older guys wait so you’re telling me that there’s a youth club yeah with a in ring in the back but they

TR to get man with the the boxing gym was upstairs okay yeah so so downstairs was more of a decent youth club still BR youth clubs are popping back then and I was young so I loved it I always wanted to just go to the youth club yeah and

Then next thing you know I’m in the boxing gym I’m just watching thinking okay doing a bit of skipping just through watching through watching somebody skip that’s how I learned to skip oh just like that just like that through watch watchingg my brothers on the on the pads that’s how I learned to

Box so then just in terms of just I want to think of the journey I want to picture being there in this Youth Club right now when’s that moment when you’re like let me go upstairs and see what’s going on because obviously you’re downstairs you’re doing table tennis

Playing pool and that what was that moment I said like was you even nervous about tentative about getting upstairs and seeing what’s good up there no because I always used to go upstairs anyway I used to finish up upstairs with the guys so it was just one of them ones

Man and uh yeah it just it just happened overnight bro I’ll be so real I I remember it like it was yesterday just training training next thing you know I’m having my first amateur fight my brother’s buying me boxing boots I got my shorts with my name on it I’m

Thinking oh what your first you had your name on it yeah bro that came in loud yeah bro yeah bro wait wait wait I’m trying to you were looking like an amateur in your first cuz no one should have the name on his already man was professional my

Brother come say yo yeah you’re going to step into this game looking Suave okay that’s cold yeah yeah yeah I was uh I was supported from Young by him and okay we you say how many brothers you got two brothers two brothers who was the like more Superior one in the ring me

Personally uh not out you by the way the two brothers out of the two uh definitely my second brother aled who’s now um a professional coach who trains you’ll see him in the corner with Chevron Clark okay this weekend yeah Chevon Clark they got another they got another very good Albanian better than

Floran marcu the things fam absolutely he’s he’s the Albanian you want to look out for that’s the real Albanian yeah he’s the real albani hold on hold on you telling me the truth are you telling me the truth I’m telling you the truth he’s the real one I believe he’s going to be

The next one up but um yeah my brother he’s he’s a pro coach at Churchill’s boxing gym so yeah I think he was the more Superior one he went to he was boxing for GB for about seven years oh wow was a light heavyweight and he done

His thing he done his thing but obviously he did he tried to make the transition but he just didn’t work for him and he just thought I’m just going to leave leave leave it alone fair enough fair enough good so like your your amateur career right how many

Fights do you have amateur I had 90 fights 90 fights okay so and it’s funny right because you see when you come into boxing in the Pro game like I’m starting to realize now like after kind of years of really like especially with this pod really look into fight I see a

Difference in Fighters and it comes down to the amateur career a lot of the time like you look at their record a man’s like 17 and0 and you think ah he’s exciting but my man’s over there then you find that he’s got 150 amateur fights and this brother’s got 20 and he

Just makes it look very easy do you notice the difference when you’re mixing it with Fighters based on their amateur career versus who they are as professionals I mean it’s you know what you can have the the deadest amateur but when they turn pro they’ll be monsters

So I never like look at an amateur Korean and think oh maybe this maybe that like it’s not I I I don’t look at that I just look at what they are now as a pro because I’m a pro and I’m trying to better myself so that’s how I see it

What are you fighting for and I know that sounds kind of philosophical in a sense but what’s the reason why you getting up and running you know when you talk about like what’s driving you for this I’m trying to be one of the best to

Come out of the UK if I’m honest I want them to say yo see Chris Congo he was a bad boy fighter I want I want I really want I’m chasing like Legacy um at the moment and that’s that’s the AIM obviously I know certain times things

End up going the other way obviously speaking to poly M andari and speaking to the top top fighters that when you get to a certain level it is about the money but right now I’m still at a British European level I would say and um I’m looking to get there to the world

To the world stages this year for sure and just push on from there the money will come anyways I’m not thinking about that so like cuz I just want to like just before we kind of move further into the story like I want to touch on your

Childhood like cuz you got two brothers that’s growing up have both they both of them tried to go pro and kind of just go through the process Elvis Elvis was a pro he He Turned Pro um I can’t remember when he only had six fights and retired

But yeah he’s one of they said um he he used to be trained by Al Smith okay he was trained by Al Smith Al Smith said um Elvis is the hardest puncher he’s ever one of the hardest punchers as a fighter he’s ever worked with so he was a he was

A big puncher Obed was more of like a a slick star like for for a light heavyweight you couldn’t touch him still I’m not going to lie the African and me um I’m hearing the names bro yeah this is what and we’re not just going to skip

Over we’re not going to skip over Elvis then OED fam like then Chris Ro like hold on what is there was there just a B in the family like is that was that mom and dad like what’s the setup what’s how did that work I’m trying to understand

How three boys all end up in the Pro game in some capacity to to to to Mom and Dad it was study read your books go to you and you all didn’t listen you didn’t listen still you didn’t listen the only person that listened was my

Sister cuz I got a sister as well okay can you imagine she she got into the fight game as well she she you know what so mad yeah my sister’s going to see this yeah and she was like she text me like last year she was like oh who’s

Them girls that were on Floyd Mayweather’s undercard fighting they’re rubbish I can beat them and I was like no we’re not we’re not going there we we are not going there and she probably could still and she yo my sister’s got hands you know of course she has so

Obviously I know that like she she’ll probably do her thing but I don’t want to see that you know I don’t want to see my nephew my nephew he’s boxing as well he’s boxing as well brother you mash up some you the other day I felt sorry for

The kid bro you mash up some you he’s a footballer I want him to do football I got him into Mew and he’s playing for me on so what’s I need to understand that wait hold on I just going to ask this question I need to understand why you don’t want nephew

Fighting what is it have you learned something about the fight game for you to say that’s not the roofy this too roofless too roofless it’s so hard it’s so hard it’s so hard hard but as well I don’t see him get hit I don’t see him get hit I just like like

Saying you know I mean be careful you know but obviously from from his first fight his first amateur fight which was towards the end of last year like cuz he cuz he almost stopped the guy I was guessed I was I was so gased I you know you know what it was the

Result unanimous decision yeah yes you know what I mean but yeah man I think he’s a better footballer and I think he’ll Excel a lot more in football because he’s toall um I wouldn’t say he’s a ringer but he’s a ringer absolutely so like just before we move I

Don’t want to move from the childhood I got to understand how what’s mommy saying through all of this Bo or like through for me as a pro now yeah no cuz obviously I’m understand all free boys yeah our Fighters and I know she wasn’t

On side no she was on it come on man my come they come from Congo just you know what I mean try to find a better life for themselves and for their kids so for for my older brother he was just like he wanted to get into something a bit

Active and he didn’t he didn’t like football dead footballer dead garbage godage oh my God uh you tried to do I think he said rugby and a few other sports but when he went into boxing he he was just like oh I like this I like

This and um yeah just started from there man and I thought this looks mad but cuz were you in the lineup then are you like I’m the last one I’m Elvis old than me can you imagine the oldest one did it you know he was the one that brought

Everyone he set Pace set Pace though he set pace so now over went sort of all way as an amateur Elvis went pro but not all way so I went I I I went all the way as an amateur so top level which is GB

And now as a pro I just got to finish it off well they say usually the youngest is meant to be the youngest is the better one you know like and would you rank yourself cuz even when I said who’s the who was the better fighter out of

All you guys yeah I I didn’t bring you in but I’m going to bring you in now I think now I’ve mixed i’ obviously Elvis was more of like he he liked e sty e liked Mike Tyson yeah so if you you’ll see it on my

If you go on my Instagram some of my stories there’s a story of Elvis I’ve put a few of these fights up yeah he’s these people are going sleep yeah like sleep so he was he had that style of sort of going inside working and moving

His head aled was more outside boxer so I just tried to comb mix combine both together and yeah man I think even this fight as well you never know you might see me go deep in the trenches and work inside my God see let’s see yeah bro

Yeah we’ll see see me when I fight I always want to give a good fight man I always want to give a good account of myself that’s one we can definitely let we can definitely stand with in this one I’m not going to lie bro in this one

It’s important because like the the Kelvin fight we saw you we that’s when that was a fight when you said you know what anyone can get you’re going to have to hold that even times when your balance was off by you was like I’m swing I it’s like you decided I

Need to take your drawer off today it’s happening that was the that was the attitude that you had in this one you bought the public are the public really going to see you Maru like on it like this right now all because usually there’s talk and then it doesn’t get it

Doesn’t live up to what we’re saying are you man committed are you committed I’m I’m always committed and I have to there’s no no choice but I have to bring out um a different side to me in this fight for sure and I’m fully focused for the

Next 6 weeks and I’m just focused on him he’s the main focus nothing else there’s nothing else in my mind apart from that guy there yeah that’s it what’s what was the hold up for this fact cuz I know sometime everybody speaks publicly but obviously see this is the barers shop

Now bro we can we can be very real cuz I know you said you was ready to go from last May mhm yeah de man doing the hesitation thing they you know how it is they’re always on the hesitation thing of course of course he’s manager um

Probably Ben Shalom as well but I I don’t know I don’t know I I just try you see me I don’t like all these negotiations I think they’re so long man like if you want to fight just say yes and just fight bro yeah here’s the

Here’s the budget this is your purse the is your purse yeah you happy with that okay you’re not happy all right what do you want all right cool maybe we can boom fight done you know what I mean why does this man have to like you see all

This oh he wants to ring walk last and all I don’t care about that I said it already why why do I care about that because at the end of the day even if I was a champion now and I had three belts and what’s the difference between him

Walking out first come on Chris no I don’t listen if you got if you got the belts yeah don’t tell me you’re walking up first just cuz my man ask for it bro there’s certain respect that man’s earned you got to keep that of course but what what does that mean when the

Bell goes absolutely nothing all right then this this is my point why am I worried about him walking first or I’m looking for I’m the Champion why am I worried about that because there’s only one Bell you know when it goes ding ding ding there’s three minutes on the timer

You got to prove yourself there you can’t prove yourself in a ring I hear that I he hear that do you know the S are high right because now we’re we’re in the journey you know what I’m saying and there’s been a lot of chapters because for a while you was with Eddie

Hearn yeah you see what I’m saying and that was like I wasn’t assigned to Eddie I was just working with him fight by fight type situation yeah sort of obviously I was signed to okay so a part of it his word so yeah so so it was no

Really a direct thing with Eddie but it was like you still I mean from the outside you still had platform that’s the best kind of promotional outfit for a good while and you say yeah you’re there what was that situation like like in terms of fights whenever you wanted

Like what was the situ was that a comfortable situation uh to be honest I I never really spoke to Eddie you know okay I never really spoke to him I just let the management deal with it so obviously I I believe that we could have

Done it better but is what it is in it the time’s gone now cuz you was on to been for a minute yeah that was the I remember that that was good you know the spice and you know what’s crazy oh Conor needs a dance partner Conor needs a more

Than needs a dance partner I feel like right now he’s he’s just qu He he’ll flip and call out a new if if he had it’s it’s looking mad for him I’m not going to lie bro but think about it he’s called out Javon he’s calling out big names yeahquo there’s another name

There’s another there’s a old school fight called out as well like might be Pacquiao is another one it’s a difficult situation for him but I’m not going to lie I really feel it for him because I know what inactivity is like no for you to feel it

For him as a man that was chasing him down I’m not going to lie but I feel it for him still it’s mad it’s mad being being inactive and just training in the gym bro you can lose your mind bro trust talk on that though cuz you’ve had this

You just came through it yeah when you say that yeah give us like I need to really understand what is a day in a life for someone that’s inactive waiting for that like what’s going on how are you feeling and do you still have to are you still like bills and everything or

Sponsorships like how does that thing work yeah the money must after a while I just have to make it work bro I have to make it work there’s a few guys um like sponsors that help me yeah so obviously big shout out to lb lb jewers go

On and yeah but apart from that bro you just have to you see me I always find a way there’s no way that I can you know just just be in the gym sitting there I have to I have to make a pound no especially in this in this CR crisis

That we’re in now it’s hard bro it’s hard and no one no one will ever understand it on a day where you’re just tired and and more time you just you just want to go to your bed after two sessions but yeah you have to get up and

Just go make make that paper and just work man so cuz you it’ll be tough for you to do like you couldn’t I couldn’t just see you in JD Sports like selling trainers and that man knows that’s that’s Chris but but you know it is I

Don’t care bro if I had to do that then I just have to do it respect fully respect I I don’t want to go I don’t want to open some old doors I don’t want to do that I don’t want to open I’m not opening no old doors I’m leaving them

Because I know what risk they come with so I’m not I’m not looking at that so when we say old doors you just talking about the typical inner city like us like what we have to yeah of course of course listen there’s there’s many plenty of ways to hustle in it m so

Obviously there’s L hustle and the other side to that and it’s so bad that I don’t even want to say it did you have you had like did you have any near brushes or what was the moment cuz you’re saying I don’t want to go through

Those old doors mhm was there a moment that was a like light bulb moment for you said you know what that’s that route closed line under that yeah I can’t go that way anymore was there a moment or was there plenty of times last year oh my God bro I was

Getting bro it was there was just so much times someone say yo you all right like my bre yo you all right I’m like yeah bro I’m good he like no you’re not good bro let me come and check you he’s gone here boom after that I’m like bro

Don’t sry bro I don’t it he said no have that and he’s talking to me yo yo listen there’s this and that and I’m like a don’t tell me that bro don’t tell me that bro because I need that right now and he’s like yeah and I’m like no and

He’s gone you know what I don’t even want you forget that boom gone and he’s gone old that that’s for you just get to the gym and back that’s it I’m like out bro this is difficult bro I’m here bro I’m here stressing like no one no one knows how hard it is

But bro it is hard out here bro cuz is there still expectation In This Moment is there still expectation from family and everyone that the like cuz you’ve been on this journey for a while now and we’ve seen you on in our eyes you know with the mandm and stuff we’ve seen you

On Sky yeah we know you got all the bread now that’s right if I need a couple hundred I’m might drop a text we know you got the bread when when I was active I was that guy I was that guy you know what I mean

Like like like bro I I would help out anybody yeah if you need help I’m there yeah what do you need what needs to be done yeah it’s not a problem we can we can get by it I’m I’m All About Solutions I don’t like to focus on a

This is a problem that is a problem no like all you got to do is ask do you feel the pressure though in your times when like is a long layoff from you being in the ring I feel mad pressure bro mad pressure I’m seeing it’s not

Even it’s about seeing it’s not even about seeing guys fighting it’s the ones that I will knock you out and this guy’s active flipping I will knock this guy out and he’s fighting three time four times a year he’s fighting again and man’s just here s sitting down like this basically

It’s like this this is how it is I’m sitting down nowhere to go until they say yeah Chris come then I can stand up bro when you’re stagnant the only thing that keeps me saying in my mind or I would have lost it by now is going to the gym bro it’s

Going to the gym bro that’s the only thing like people don’t understand see see now now I understand there’s there’s an element in terms of what you said earlier in terms of like I’m there to Burna Hopkins there’s a there’s a there there’s something else that boxing is

Doing for you that I don’t pick up when Fighters speak on it in a different way cuz when men talk about getting the check cash securing the bag and cutting like you ain’t mentioned P’s once in any type of admirable way to the point where that’s a focus of yours like your thing

Is clearly there’s it’s a mutual exchange your relationship with boxing you see what I’m saying and I think the upbringing the the stuff you’ve experienced sounds like it’s brought you to that place yeah it’ll be it’ll be it’s smart it will be really hard for me to say oh yeah like people

To start saying oh retirement and that is that is probably the that’s not even on my list right now and I don’t think it’s going to be on my list for a while but I know there’s a time it’s going to come so we all just got to wait for that

Moment but I if I’m honest I’m not even looking forward to that moment bro I I don’t know no it sounds like no you sound like someone that lives that the gym is your life that’s what all I’m getting from you right now is the gym is

Your life bro and is it hard for you to see like other Fighters where they’re not as serious in the gym or like do you is there any frustration I’m in a gym with serious serious people yeah so I don’t see that I’ve seen it previously

And I’m like bro this guy’s just playing games BR I don’t even want to yo don’t put me training with this guy again yo take get him out of the gym bro yeah obviously before this was before I I went to Ben Davidson but yeah yeah in my

Gym there is serious serious Fighters and you just got to be serious yourself you just got to be on it yourself you sping with Josh Taylor for for years for years years years so even before Josh Taylor was with Ben I was sparring him when he was with Shane um and yeah man

That that there there there was some serious round did you think like how did it benefit you cuz obviously he’s South poor and it’s like there’s just different elements and stuff and you guys obviously must have a friendship as well to be that close and stuff like

That do you think those things did it help you or did it help you specifically getting to know him and his patterns did it help you for other opponents in ter is what I’m saying uh it helped me to see what kind of level I’m at and what kind of level I

Can compete cuz Josh he he don’t play even in sparing he don’t play yeah he seems the type yeah he don’t play I see him I see him one time at the Zone um it was the aj1 fight and where we was on the broadcast that day just doing a

Little back and forth about the fight and I remember seeing Josh Taylor at the entrance and I’m looking at him and in my mind s like this brother’s familiar you know but these times I’m stared at man for like 7 to 10 seconds Donny’s looking at me now and he’s look back at

Me he like what Focus oh what is he on smoke all the time bro cuz he comes across like he is well no Josh Taylor is calm he’s a he’s a good brother man he’s a good brother still he’s a good brother so let’s you know

The just the next part of the journey because we can’t act as if we you’ve experienced the losses MH yeah in those two losses what have you learned and and separate them as well let’s focus on the mckinson one cuz that one I felt like was the stakes were Conor Ben was was

Close felt like Conor Ben was close no if if if I’m thinking about it now and I look at it now Conor Ben was never close oh bro okay why’ you say that never close why’ you say that Maru probably would have been closer than con why wait

Why though when you say I just know what they they wanted to do with him knew what they wanted to do with him what they wanted to do with him is what they’re doing now with the fast track team yeah of course they didn’t want him fighting no one in the British level

That’s that’s just my opinion anyway mhm but um the only person they wanted him to fight was old man Jenkins yeah yeah they wanted they wanted to fight know old he’s just old man throw back everything even his equipment just yeah I was supposed to fight him at one point

So I said yo if I go more than five rounds of this guy bro don’t give me no water bro cuz that’s a joke down I’m not even joking serious but yeah man he just he just he just looked old overnight but yeah back to the that situation yeah yeah the

Mckinson one was just like I don’t know it it it was a weird one because after the fight I looked over to management like and they’ve gone and I’m like okay all right cool in the corner obviously Jim was like it’s close you see know it is Jim Jim McDonald is a

Nice guy guy he’s a nice guy and I think if he said to me yo need to go yeah now yeah then it would have been a different story yeah because it was slow for you you were slow than and and don’t get twisted I I’m saying to the camera I

Hate watching mckinson fight that that’s punishment if you tell me sit there and watch mckinon I do bro I’m you see that pack that that Guy brought to the house I rather move that fam not interested in watching this guy fight bro so I know in

The ring but then you were just you were so different I watched you in leag we saw you in Lee in the Lee Arena like back like way back 2019 and I was like so I’m like I know what Congo does I’m watching the mckinson fight saying he’s going to get

Going and you just the gear wasn’t there like but it was too much of being patient and too much play into his game when I should have just just done the Mad thing I should have just went there done cuz I was bro if you train with Jimmy M you know I was

Fit yeah I was fit Fitness is a a minor to Jimmy so I was always fit but when I look back on the fight I’m like why did I do that why did I do that how many times you watch it back how many times

You watch it back bro I could only watch it twice I I a watched it no more I know I’ve watched it three times watched it twice um by myself and I watched it one more time with Ben davidon and we broke it down and I

Couldn’t believe some of the stuff I was doing was actually good but I would just take a step back and it was just like what the what why did I did you feel nervous cuz I know this was like obviously after lockdown and stuff like that like we it’s in Jaa like everything

Was kind of open up again things looked different they felt different no fans and that did that stuff play at all I was more nervous for the fight before I was [ __ ] my pants okay cuz look at look at the the timeline yeah yeah yeah

Fights and from that to a title fight I was like yo of of course this is this is obviously when Co has started to slow things down yeah so I was more nervous for that mckinson fight I wasn’t I don’t know man I wasn’t not that I wasn’t

Wasn’t nervous for it but I should have gone in for the kill MH should have been a lot smarter but it is what it is and and you know what that fight there that was probably the lowest moment I’ve ever ever had in boxing bro cuz you know you

Know what’s mad though cuz I felt for Kelvin because I knew you was low in that one because when you came out there it was Kelvin next to it after that oneel was it was it mckinson yeah yeah yeah it was him it was him it was said I’m taking your head

Off cuz you you there was a low moment and you so you’ve come out and we’ve seen I got to see aggressive version of you again we saw like you know like this is who you’re going to be and it’s like all right cuz when do you meet when do

You join Ben Davis when is the moment when is the switch um the switch after after mckinson so then we see that okay you’re locked in now you know and then now we get to the echo fight we use fam next and is ech fora then Echo yeah so

What what happened in there what was the difference and you know now getting back at that one and what did you learn from that one and stuff it’s like you sat in the pocket and said yo machine for machine every man let’s just see walk on

Bro um what I learned from that is just don’t blow your gasket too early I think I blew it okay no no I think I know I blew it right right I know what I done yeah I saw opening and I I could close my eyes and B going don’t

No you get me and then a couple rounds went by I was like yo yeah my second win’s coming he’s hit me with a few shots I thought yo this guy can I need to yo this spyman can punch but I’m staying in it bnny I can get this like

And then it was like this was round seven around 8 I started coming back I started feeling back you know when that second wi kicks in yeah but people say it wasn’t enough to come back but when you watch it round for round I still

Think I done enough to win but to the judges eyes it is it is what it I ain’t going to lie bro that last round fam I ain’t going to lie when you when you watch the last going lie bro cuz I like I be I li they would hate me they

Would hate they say k do you that you are bro that last round you open as well what’s the last round yes and if you watch the last round calculate how much clean punches he landed and how much I landed in obvious response to the punches though it look like one it look

Like it hurt bro you know like in terms of and then when you when I see you do it’s when I see like you know and I know the clinch is part of it but sometimes the clinch can look negative at times was like oh he’s he’s just saved himself

He’s dived in for the safety you know what I’m saying so I this I have to be real one the on cuz it’s one of the ones where you’re the fighter in the mix yeah so you’ll know that one didn’t hurt that one that one missed I blocked that one

But from the outside there’s times where you’re on the ropes and he’s bam body and it’s just like you see the shut it’s like that looks like it hurts and I know no one usually does that to no one does that to you like I know you’ve had the

Awkward ones when I think of the mckinson one I think he’s aw this is long life referee man you know what I’m saying but then it was just knowing that he was saying right he’s right there with you so you’re throwing you thrown like two he’s thrown three back then

After now you like in a war but then he’s the eye catching shot is there was a couple of those eye catch and shot moments I was like if we get this again so Maru yeah let’s not forget this though you have you are you still thinking about Echo

Though do you still feel like unfinished business yeah we we we we’ll run that back again soon yeah yeah anytime me and Echo fight it will always be like that it’s going to look like that do you know him from sparring like before just like SP him on GB years ago

We was on GB together and it was the same thing and it was it was war for war BR see it’s Mach listen and the thing is I see I know you bed him at um what I can’t remember what fight it was after leee wood when he got beat by a thing

Yeah and he was sounded like he wanted that rematch again no of course he didn’t want that why would he want that but what confuses me is like I a really seen him yeah I know I I don’t know where he’s obviously he had he had the one

Fight against what’s his name again what’s that har stinks as well man um Harry scarf yeah bro you had a fight with him him and mckinson are like they should fight each other both stinkers is it they’re both stinkers in it like bro if you if you bro if they fought nobody

Would go if they fought nobody will go that arena is empty just them the corner the cornerman a couple of mates yeah and the judges nobody would go like see in this game bro you got to be exciting bro you got to be exciting man big man thing and it’s just like I

Remember he boxed on the same day that I boxed yeah and my BR my my BRS that they you know you know the guys they know boxing just because I’m in it and they know the weights because I’m in it they don’t know anyone else they they couldn’t say they could watch someone

And say yo he’s cold like my BR watch someone watch in New Way in his last fight said bro that guy’s cold bro watching not even knowing that not not not knowing he’s the guy you get what I’m saying yeah so I remember he boxed

On the same card that I boxed on yeah and my BRS were watching first couple rounds and they left they they ducked out they went to go get drinks you see after after that fight they were like Chris if you fight that guy I’m not

Coming I said why I’m on all the smoke bro I fight anybody what do you mean why wouldn’t you come no he’s he’s boring man he’s boring man he shouldn’t even be a fire and I’m like a that’s deep that’s just he star it it’s just that kind of

But they don’t understand that talk to us about let’s understand um Ben Davidson because obviously Ben Davidson’s with AJ you you’re hot right now he’s hot right now like the thing is he’s always been kind of War a bit of warmth to his name do you what I mean a

Lot of people try and criticize and take KH and sweep his legs from underneath him calling him a you know Sports and Fitness conditioning guy but he’s got some he’s got some stuff to his name like you can’t take away what did you what are you gaining or what are you

Like what’s he bringing out of you as a fighter would you say all right so I always so the start of this how the link up really happened yeah was obviously I was faring Josh before uh before the Ramirez fight but just listening to certain stuff I was like that’s interesting and then

Obviously listening to Lee Wy he’s also in in the in in in the camp like there’s one time I went to I said are you a coach you you need to be a coach because what I’m hearing here like yo this is this is serious stuff

Yeah and I I I watch a lot of breakdowns online I watch I watch a lot of breakdowns like just break breaking down fights and seeing seeing things from outside of um from the other side of the the ring right and I always said if there was someone in my Camp doing

Breakdowns for me that’s it I’m gone yeah that’s where I need to be and seeing Ben how he works and how he he can break down a fighter said yo this is where I need to be then Barry Smith and Lee Wy for me the best people I’ve

Worked with in the professional boxing game wow for sure so cuz I’ve always had like I me my critique before with Ben was bro like I’m not seeing you I see you inherit Fighters but I don’t see like the like the fighter from beginning

All the way to the end it’s like this is what i’ this is what I built but then I can’t again boxing changes and grows in it well you will have that now cuz you got R and Barney Smith you started with him you got Alloys is in the camp now

And uh yeah man I think this is this is just a camp bro like look look you you thought I know you guys thought Jordan Gil was going to lose yeah yeah against my brother never saw that game never saw that game plan coming Fury for rounds

And then bro bro I couldn’t believe how he given up it was just bro that’s what I’m saying how can I not be in a camp but you know even the work he’s done with AJ has made me really go roted because AJ looked like he was on a slope

Where it’s like I don’t know if man’s going to be able to turn it around no I I think I obviously I’ve seen AJ Spa in a gym but even before he come I always thought that Ben was going to say you you need to go back to being aggressive

That’s your thing look how big you are look like be use your attributes and I think Ben’s just done that perfect that’s what the and that’s the little part of why I’m excited about YouTube’s link up because I don’t know I felt like you were trying to be in the sweet

Science bag where he was like you know I’m going to pick off my shots I’m going to stay on the outside I’m going to try and do stuff like but I know like even when I was hearing cuz I heard about you before like way before everyone was talking to

Me saying this guy they don’t want to see Chris they nobody wants to put their guy with Chris that’s the thing that kind of that was the energy so then I was I was like well why is he reverting or why is he like and I feel like Ben’s

Going to you that’s this link up with Ben right now you’ve kind of recognized I’m good at this this this and forward MH is that is that right is that true or not really that’s that’s right that’s right that’s right and we’re like like I said we’re working every day man whether

Whether it’s Ben whether it’s Barry whether it’s just Lee it whoever’s in the gym we all what what I like about the gym as well all the coaches are in sync so come Friday night it it don’t matter who’s in in in my corner it could

Be just one it can be all three but we’re coming out Victorious man so in terms of the mental side of things right because obviously when people talk about what Ben did with Tyson Fury getting him you know from being mad overweight in there with with wilder for a memorable

Fight what’s the mental side of what Ben is doing for you cuz I know that you know we’ve kind of tapped into your story the pressure that you carrying just different elements that make you up how is he complimenting that side of your game um I think

He’s Ben he’s just being what I need is just realness that’s it especially when it comes down to things like that like in a gym the y That’s [ __ ] that’s what I want you know what today was better that’s all I want and from it from from all the coaches right

That is it like you Reon that’s come from your sorry not to just cut you there you reckon that thing has come from your brothers and having two older brothers that would speak to you and stuff and tell you like would they be really real with you after fights and

Say look man that would be so what my brother said what what was that what was that what would you do like that’s the kind of realness I need I don’t need this halfhearted thing oh no don’t don’t protect man’s feelings don’t do that don’t do that man’s not a chick

Right’s not a chick I’m not a chick bro don’t do that tell me was that good or was it [ __ ] or if it was all right or if we need to work on this a bit more just tell me that’s real and then at least I

Know all right I’m happy I’ve heard the truth and we work on it so like obviously you’re with you’re signed with boxer yeah right now yeah what’s like cuz there’s a lot of things happening in boxing yeah Saudi Arabia yeah man trying to go Saud but I don’t even want to ask

Questions bro because man seeing yo like I trying to get to SAI G fam his Excellency fam it shouts out to his Excellency boy M might have to just send him an email say yo keep man my guy them purses yo these are just do Madness

Man happily to go over there and just just lose and being there with Killers yeah even that Zoro and ell said yo I was I was I was I was sad for him still but at the same time can you be sad cuz look at his pockets

He’s up now Pockets he if he come in here n if he coming here and he was walking out there’ll probably be money dropping out of his pockets now bro no let’s let’s talk on it though cuz we you take the upper Tire fight you right now

Would you take the upper Tire fight after when Fury said send it back to Australia in my story in my story line Fury sent him back to Australia Fury said five rounds of this nonsense no go home you’re not here to prepare me for what I’m trying to you’re head to make a

Statement you’re hair on statement energy bro because now people are leaking footage you seen the um the you seen the Ry footage I haven’t been on no social media a you don’t even know what’s going on bro like so again T um T yeah he’s leaked the footage of um

Himping with Ry in 200 it beating him beating him like hold on a minute sparring stories you Spar Chris EU Junior at one point yeah and I remember seeing that footage and sending this cuz your face was he had the head guard on I sent this around to like six

Who is this brother because he’s hand he’s handling Junior fam yeah there was some slick I think to myself he don’t even look like he’s the same we they’re like no he’s a water my boy knows his name and it I had to do research you

Know had to lie in it I had to lie I had to say I was a super water fam cuz if I said I was a w they would have want me back they would have said I was too small fam but you was let’s be real you was winning whatever

However Lo that was going on for you was winning all of the footage from I mean listen honestly sparring sparring so I I hate you I’m not trying to get you to Ron Jun but what was them session saying they were good man they they were like

You know you know how you know how Eubank comes and obviously they dad is it you know it’s a whole minute you L better be ready because you know he my son you might kill you why is he doing this to everyone like you I was thinking

What should I get in there talking yeah wait so wait you’re out the ring hold on you’re out of the ring yeah wrapping up the gloves and he’s where’s where’s senior right now when he he’s like he’s he’s come in the gym and he’s looked at me like you’re not sweating you’re not

Sweating I’m like he did the same to you mean what you mean you’re not sweating you need to warm up you need to warm up my son he’s going to kill you I said no come on hitting the same bars to every fighter that comes through that gym is crazy

Did you feel crazy about not sweating when he spoke to you because obviously this is senior if senior’s telling you bro like I’m senior I’m tell your do don’t look ready for my son was a little part like like what’s this son on N man I thought this guy I thought he was

Going to wind up but when I was like getting warm I like hold on this guy this guy was serious but no let me hit one two bags before I get in there you know let me just do two two rounds in a bags and then I’m warm so I was warm I

Was warm I was calm but I see yo I see you Bank Jr take some brothers to the slaughter house seriously I’m like oh blood everywhere everywhere cuz there’s a reason why it’s that’s talking this way I’m looking I’m thinking no I’m not getting no I’m not

Getting hit with that shot hell no hell no I’m moving to my right I’m going to I’m going to move Smart in this thing cuz yo i’ I’ve seen him take some people this is what you went on like the type of SP sounds like he’s on his I’m not

Practicing let me let me let me let me let me tell it straight right goad go when you spy you back junior yeah it is not a spar it’s a b hul put that in your mind what you think is a spar you think he’s going to go there he’s working on

Forget that that’s out the window bro it’s about bro you’re having bro I’ve had a couple bouts you know in the gym there should be more than 16 on my rest i’ had BS how many rounds are you keeping you men in there uh uh that that

Time I done four then I was like oh yeah come back come back then done six so i’ I’ve mainly done just couple six rounds Yeah Yeah couple Tuesdays and Thursdays I’ve I’ve took took took a trip down to to Brighton boy and and got it in and

Cuz he’s obviously he’s a different type of like personality he’s a different type of Personality us man from South in that yeah obviously you’ve got to the gym he’s got the colors he’s got the High colors on I don’t know if he’s massive and the stair as well so like

Does the stair go after a while like is it you know cuz there’s TV version of him and I just see is it one of the ones where staring at you but then after a couple rounds he sits down he’s like yeah good [ __ ] man yeah where you from

Like yeah yeah that that’s what it is it’s more of like he’s staring and then he’s like he walk away do his thing and come back still you know how he moves though you know how he moves with the High colors I can always see it

Bro he only ever done that once and I think that was just the first one when he saw what I was about yeah then he was like yeah yeah yeah yeah this serious fighter yeah now can be your friend yeah even with his other son even with his

Other son Banks like I remember seeing you Bank in um O2 at the Intercontinental he’s like yeah you need to be sparring with this guy he’s serious and I was like yeah we’ll get some working whenever still like so he he knows that I’m I’m a serious C war is

Cold fam you got that respect fam you got is cold man it must be [ __ ] to go ins Spire my man in Brighton and you don’t get the respect and you walking out his walking out there I felt sfe for them guys walking out there their towers

He even say bye to you yeah he a say just a cold walkout cold walk out bro they they didn’t even say bye I remember that guy man I thought damn damn you’re just one of them on damn it’s mad it’s mad like when you obviously cuz what what other sparing

Guys that you’ve been in with because obviously we forget as fans like Fighters They Know Each Other Well they be invited to each other’s gym they Spa they like Eubank Junior and car FR they just gone rounds you know what I’m say who else have you been in with uh I’ve

Been with been in with a few good people James the gal okay yeah James the G done some rounds with him y you see him yeah if you ain’t ready for him for his talk just don’t even bother oh he’s talking mid he’s talking mid but there’s no one

There who’s it who’s it for is it just there’s no one there’s no cameras on that’s funny that’s that’s just how he is that’s just how he is like that’s funny hitting him with a good shot he’s going yeah yeah too slick yeah yeah and he’s coming he’s like yeah I’m coming

I’m coming and I’m like yeah let me let me let me get this ready let me get this ready but yeah now we had some good Spar um on that though can I ask you this quick question in the ring now with you cuz you’re talking different Fighters

Are speaking and stuff M what are you doing like are you talking to the fight like what’s happening in in the ring like if you’re in the ring of Congo right now what round one round two’s happen what’s the energy saying from you like I’m I’m not talking and I’m just

Straight on SMY this guy’s a cold killer guy SMY business man when I’m the more like the more quiet I am the more these guys should be afraid so when I I don’t really talk anyway if you did talk you wouldn’t really even like hear it like

That cuz he be in the middle of the madness and he’s just like right what did you say you guys Straight to Hell to I’m taking everyone in stream whole Camp everyone the C Maru the people that know Maru maru’s fans Straight to Hell talk us through how

That fight is going to go with Maru bro it’s going to go two ways is it two ways or it it can go whichever way really but I’m I’m just ready for the smoke um I think I think he’s I think you know what wait wait no out the

Barber shop fam wait out the barber shop fam I don’t want we don’t not on this platform fam you’ve walked into the barber shop it’s packed bro but everyone’s the she you know when they said hey Congo’s coming and they turn off they turn off the cliff is RO and we

Say yo Congo they told my man to wait 15 minutes so you Congo what are you doing fight night what can we expect bro boy we can you’re going to you’re going to see class yes classy classy violence classy violence violence that’s what I’m that’s giving shiny let’s give

It shiny shoes but gun is on the inside pocket Shin pointy shoes as well you know shiny pointy shoes shiny point but violence two straps behind my back just on it I have this is it I have to be this fight I I got to bring I got to bring

More than what I brought with Eko even though I feel like Eko is the better fighter yes and we all know really Echo is the better fighter I got to bring more than that yeah do you know what I mean so if I bring more than that to

Florian yeah that’s it it’s a rap because and there’s so much riding on this one because I saw you bro you were people were tweeting you at Madness yeah there was some racist tweets you were dealing with some strong tweets bro and maku were condemning them tweet Maru

Didn’t really speak up and condemn like he didn’t take to him I said yo yo chat to your peop man silence B basically opened the door like this and just closed it silence was Cloud was like ra okay okay so are you part of them or are

You condemning this yeah what’s going on here do you condemn these tweets mad bro it’s mad now it’s like yeah now you know what I’m adding extra Violet on thank you very much I’m coming I got the two straps and I got the zks for no reason fam just for no reason

Yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely no my man can’t have that still and and if I’m honest I I’ll say it straight the man them are coming out still are coming out absolutely we’re not hearing no racist chance or whatnot because if that’s what they dming me yeah what do you think is

Going to happen day of the fight what could happen there you need to match man no the think the Killer is here on the fight is you two right now yeah and silence will speak when with a beautiful performance them man can’t talk no one can talk a beautiful

Performance from you nobody’s talking and of you can do the Rocky speech I hated you when I got here you hated me but after these rounds I I love you and you not you just dealing with race relations fam has he got correct though fam that’s the that’s the main thing though the

Tweets were mad still the tweets I hear it DMS my DMs are crazy yeah CRA I even had people saying they want to take my life and that but they’re coming to kill me oh they had like Frets like that like I had FRS bro

Bro bro no way like you was actually bro please read what is that like though like just that level of hatred I I don’t know I don’t know why they hate me that’s insane yeah okay where’s where’s it look I ain’t going to lie Travis is the greater reader in this all

Right oh that one TR go ahead this is a mad one please read that one oh please read that one oh I’m not even saying that loud in this pod fam yo but this it’s it’s powerful wait Hey listen yeah that’s mad hey I’m not going to lie

That’s thise that’s this morning that’s not even no it’s not even passed in the Tweet here I’m just going to say for I I can’t even read it yeah I’m sure I know you don’t see that one in the Old Post in the tweet I just want to say in

The Tweet if you’re wondering use your imagination or the racism is there let me ask you you know when he say all of it like it’s clear let me ask you something right social media and boxing now is it’s it’s a close relationship J me obviously feel like they can tweet

You and send you messages and and it go crazy czy another element I want to speak to is do you feel the pressure of like you’re in a scrap let’s say you go down you I mean you go I’ll never go down I’ll never go down did you see me

Go down in my last fight no no my man could punch I didn’t go down but I’m talking like the pressure of fans watching and the whole it could be a me obviously I don’t know if the venue is 100% confirmed yet but the venue that

I box in my last fight compared to this one is it’s nothing I’m not going to feel nothing I didn’t feel nothing in Manchester Arena and that was a big arena and I was just like yo we’re going at it it’s got to be done

Me I’m I’m I’m fully in I’m fully in and ready to go so who this would all this uh he’s he’s had 10 and something kickboxing fights and all of that I heard he wasn’t even in the big league in ki in kickboxing he didn’t he wasn’t

In K1 speak on it he wasn’t in K1 K1 proper proper thing what what league was he in M the division two man wasn’t in Premier League do you get what I’m saying so yeah man it’s it’s one of them ones I found out I found out I got a few albanians myself

So I know I know I know this all right you know what well listen people you know what to do right now let me talk to that camera you heard what he’s coming shiny shoes two straps unnecessary ZK bro with the extendo on it fam it is serious bro and

That’s in the arms fam this guy said it is war if you’re not watching shame on you fam and Maru W Maru I hope the kickbox is going to help bro cuz he’s no he’s focused I already know bro let me tell you in his mind right now all he’s

Thinking put the camera on him drag straight to hell that’s who that’s in his mind bro bro you got hit that you got to hit that bar bro yeah let them know fam bro what camera do hey what what what camera tell him where he’s going bro to that camera there what

Camera is this camera which camera will fam we got to be focused down in the middle fam that one that one that one telling bro you’re talking to Maru right now getting Dy bro Maru you’re getting sent to hell my brother straight straight no G oh my God you all your

Guys you know what all all your guys that’s been dming me God bless you man is it but you man going to feel something that day your captain you going to feel something that you’re Captain fam the captain lead in the ship it’s it’s gone to F it’s going to feel

That that submarine that got lost fam is that that’s that’s it submersible settings submersible settings we need to end this pod because we’re going to get in trouble that’s it submersible Chris thank you for coming through thank you we’re locked in man we can’t wait fam hopefully we see you we’re rooting for

You in this one man yeah yeah going fully in so yeah big Up let’s do yo people thanks for watching The Undefeated podcast make sure you like subscribe share leave a comment and all that good stuff man this is the place to be