The Phoenix Suns and Kevin Durant takedown the Indiana Pacers and Pascal Siakam 117-110. The 4th quarter tried to sneak back up on the Suns but they took care of business to close out the game with a win! Devin Booker took care of the first part of this game and KD and Beal took care of the 2nd half. Join the PHNX Suns Podcast for the Suns vs Pacers postgame show to talk through all the things. And don’t forget to follow the show on social @PHNX_Suns.

0:00 Intro
1:00 Kevin Durant methodically picked apart the Pacers & the Big 3 is learning to win together
12:00 Suns defense showed up in the 4th
18:00 Stop the Booker hate, he carried in the 1st quarter
23:00 Looking at the numbers and the poor bench scoring
36:50 Reading your super chats, looking at our bets
43:00 Bol Bol would help
47:45 Devin Booker on Bradley Beal taking over in the 4th
51:00 Back to super chats
1:00:00 Gerald Bourguet joins the show on the 4th, chemistry, 3PA, bench and more
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Welcome in everybody to the phnx Suns podcast the pre post game show Edition pre game show the pre poost game show Edition we got sexy sacks tonight that’s all that matters because the Phoenix Suns took down the Indiana Pacers 117 to 110 we thought the fourth quarters were

Back but the Suns have figured it out they’re getting a little bit better they’re getting a little bit better and because of that we get some sexy sexs tonight baby steps baby steps but one thing that never needs baby steps is always the sexy sacks hit it Hey sounds so right sounds so beautiful don’t you love being inside the winners Lounge you guys so much more enjoyable on these parts that is quite a few in a row I won’t jinx it by putting a number to it but the suns are looking good you guys and

Kevin Durant closing out that game only like Kevin Durant can yeah the slim Valley Reaper showed up for sure tonight yeah I’m glad he did we needed it especially in that second half dud starting getting a little cold around that Arena uh I mean listen KD did his

Thing and it was just it looks so effortless okay thank you for saying that thank you for saying that can I ask you a question s sure that’s what we’re here for did he was he Ultra aggressive no I don’t think so did did he seem like

He was driving the car all night no no right just methodically picked them apart when he saw that the other two dudes ain’t have it and win a game that’s the blueprint like Kevin can get 40 doing that exactly what he did tonight he doesn’t have to be the guy

That sets the tempo and he doesn’t have to be the guy that’s act absolutely driving the whole thing he just sits here picks his spots and 40 piece for the slim Reaper baby that’s the magic yeah that’s crazy that’s the easiest 40 piece I’ve seen all season yeah 90 nine

Of 13 in the second half 69% none of them layups or dunks had two threes the rest were M was because he got all the layups and D over in the first half know I swear he had like eight in a row started the game with one jumper but man

And a whole bunch of layup they needed him because in that same time frame Devin went two of 12 yeah heot 17% and as hot as he looked in the first half he looked just as cold in the second and Kevin had to carry the load you know we

Saw a little bit from from Beal there towards the end but KD was the reason that they won this game in the second half even though that got closer than than you wanted after being up by uh by 11 at one point Katie got it done yeah

He did and and is how great is it to have bradby like that these are games you lose before Brad Beal these are games you lose Kevin dominates Dev off Devin’s dominating KD’s not really on there’s no third guy that could really take over towards the end there Brad Beal’s like

Yo let’s get that switch on well it’s about time because I I’ll tell you what man I don’t know what the [ __ ] they were doing again yet alone at the five minute Mark they had about three out of the four possessions where they just went ISO ball one of them was a turnover

Because Bradley be was trying to throw Roe over to get it to KD for no damn reason cuz it wasn’t there like take your guy you’re you’re Bradley Beal yeah like I get KD’s hot but like they were facing them and and and the angle you

Had on the sideline was not good yeah I was just like what are we doing and then uh the next time down like Devon has the ball and KD and and Beal are just standing on the right hand side they don’t even [ __ ] take a step anywhere

Yeah and it’s just we just wind the clock down I’m like bro that’s the thing that drives me insane if you make it too easy for teams to guard you they will and the Pacers were just chilling until like about 10 seconds left on the shot

Clock and then they tried to D up and it was working they got to do better than that and I’m I’m getting tired of fourth quarter stall offense ISO 101 offense like it’s just it’s got to stop even if even if Katie’s hot or or book’s hot

Like you still have to have movement to fool the defense into thinking other things are possible otherwise they could just they could just focus on you and they don’t need to do anything else Katie I so ball though was six of seven I understand what you’re saying

You can’t stop the pace and just just focus on one guy but KD was extremely efficient three of those four possessions were not KD at the top of the key yeah KD was on the side and it was Booker or Beal at the top so that’s why like that doesn’t work especially

When KD Is On Fire like he was like you got to get him involved and the fact that Kevin young or or Frank vogle or whoever the hell is in charge of the offense still is not recognizing that for the 42 game in a row it’s got to

Stop yeah that K was awesome and you got to give him the ball he had 40 like come on that stretch you’re talking about we were screaming at the TV call a time out call a timeout let’s get some movement and they and inevitably they did and

Their best play they ran was right off was right out of the timeout kd3 yeah right so when your best offense is out of a timeout that that can’t be it so they you know they pulled it out they got it done at the end but yeah that was

That was really ugly below six minutes how many of the fourth quarter makes do you think Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant accounted for all of them 10 of the 11 there you go who got the other one book book The midrange jump on forc yeah but I think so ESO to your point

There I think that um like so I understand what you’re saying about the fourth quarters um at least we’re seeing a little bit of progress right they’re recognizing what’s going on in these fourth quarters they’re closing the Gap as far as how much they’re losing fourth quarters by did we technically lose La

Friday night and tonight that fourth quarter sure but the number has gotten smaller and smaller and that’s yeah beneficial yeah um and they’ve had a lead going into them as well which is also beneficial but ESO to your point about KD and Bradley Beal in that fourth

Quarter that I think is what stood out the most to me in tonight’s game we talk about this big three book carried in the first first half Katie carried the second half Bradley Beals showed up when you needed him the most at the end of

This game y there were chunks of each of this entire game where you could point to each of the big three and say if we didn’t have that we would have lost this game yeah and so they’re learning how to play amongst each other now they’re learning how to when book goes cold

We’re GNA turn to this guy when KD’s getting doubled or it’s just not there for him right now Brad Beals got it and that’s we’re finally seeing that come to fruition right in front of our eyes well like I said in pregame that is this team’s identity it’s those three and

However they go obviously this team’s going to go and since they’ve been healthy they’ve turned it around they’ve looked good uh you know and and the offense has moved its way up slowly into what should be after tonight a top 10 offense in in in rating so it’s you look

At those guys and they were prolific tonight they had 92 of the points the rest of the team at 26 yeah I mean I mean that’s insane what these guys carried and in the fourth like we just said they were the only ones to make a

Shot yeah I mean we we talked pregame Right Said the bench was going to be the deciding factor we won the game thankfully but 55 to n 55 to n wow I mean that’s that’s crazy to think that you can win a game I challenge people to

Go back in the archives and find a game where the bench lost 50 5 to n and you still win by almost double digits you know why because you get 92 points from The Big Three that’s also ridiculous we’re gonna get 100 points in a basketball game from these three dudes

And yo today Kevin was incredible like Kevin was Kevin but you you still I mean Brad Beal Clos it out he still got his 25 right book still got his 25 and so again no more style points it’s about just getting the [ __ ] done if they’re picking different times to do it let

Them do it I loved it and then also Al a game when nerk was like non-existent fou out like he he he he did some work but it wasn’t his best game and so no bench plus ner and you still win yeah and I love I love that Bradley Beal was all in

Inside in the fourth it was it was all around the basket where Katie’s hitting the jumpers hitting the threes Beal’s doing the work down low like you start to see how this can all work as a big three and how they all can have kind of different Specialties at different times

With this group but the other thing with freaking Kevin Durant tonight the three blocks play fantastic defense scores 40 without going to the free throw line a single no free throws can we just regardless of how many points he finished with it’s wild that ktie didn’t

Go to the free throw line at all in an entire crazy it’s really blasphemy gets f i challenge people to check that when was the last time Kevin Durant played a professional basketball game he didn’t have he didn’t have a free throw that’s crazy he and Bradley be went to the free

Throw line a total of three times that’s wild especially especially considering those two guys are are probably the best on the team at drawing fouls at The Rim because they attack so hard and I got a number for y’all when we get to that segment that’s going to make this

Argument look even crazier we’ll get into that we’ll come back to this one though um but listen I think it goes without surprise here that tonight’s big bright shiny star Kevin Durant is the one shining look at that guy KD finished with 40 points nine rebounds 18 of 25

From the field efficient basketball from Kevin Durant yeah yeah yeah there were a few times that uh you kind of lost your breath though because he took two a couple fall there you’re like please no I mean to be fair anytime KD hits the ground true and Bradley be for that

Matter both of those guys very true I mean literally all of them all of them book lost here you go to your point Zeus 4 says Kevin Durant is the 14th 14th player in NBA history to score 40 plus points without attempting a single free throw 14 almost 100 Years of professional

Crazy you noce or another that’s part of Katie’s game they didn’t shoot free throws on Peach buckets I don’t I don’t know maybe they did there was a free throw line in no three-point line so I don’t know you know k a big part of Katie’s game has always been the free throw

Yeah and typically you’ll look at KD and it’s not it’s not out of the ordinary to see 10 free throws in a game of KD tonight he took 25 shots on nights where he’s getting to the free throw line that 25 is more like

189 yeah if he gets his free throw if he just gets to his line like normal he still gets 40 according to Britney P Price It’s the first time in Sun’s history that happened it has yeah I’m telling y’all I I I I know what I saw

Tonight ain’t normal in a lot of ways a lot of ways and was his third 40-point game as a son so we got another uh big night from KD to follow up a big night from Devin Booker and you love to see it um going back to those that fourth

Quarter though I do want to give a little bit of love to Sun’s defense especially late in that in that fourth quarter because that’s really what finished this off that put that was the what is what’s the ism here the cherry on the top the cherry on the top thank

You for this whole fourth quarter is they started to turn things around off defensively they figured it out but then defensively they locked in they got a a couple big steals at the end of this game book got one of them that really closed us out and sealed the deal and

That I think is worth at least giving a little love to there’s about a three minute stretch there where neither team could score yeah um but the Suns what I did like about it was you know I think it was Miles Turner got the ball down on

The Block and you just knew like hey you got send help you got send help yeah and then oh I’m sorry it was SE yakum it was seum down low on the Block was guarding and uh and then they uh Grayson came over to help and then forced them into a

Bad shot which I thought was terrific like they they adjusted on the Fly which I really liked um Grayson continues to show that he’s a solid defensive player um you know gra Grayson is not the greatest oneon-one defensive player but he’s his intangibles are next level and

That’s what keeps him in the game that’s what keeps him playing at a high level he does these small little things that help if he gets beat he already knows okay if I get beat and I got help I need to go over here to the corner just in

Case they try to pass it out or you know small little things that he’s reading I I just love that about Grayson um overall I was happy with the Suns defense I mean you gotta give the Pacers credit man they they they they’ve never seen a bad shot they’ve never seen a

Shot they didn’t like and they just kept chucking and chucking and chucking and they didn’t stop but the Suns weathered the storm and got through it they had some terrible rotations early in this even even into the thir third quarter but in that fourth especially second half of that fourth they locked down

Held the Pacers to 44% stopped three or four shots around the rim as well which early in that game it was it was free free going in the in the paint for the uh for the Pacers but I they really locked down again we talk about it in

The pregame KD has really taken on that defensive mentality we saw it again uh late in this game and the rest of the team followed suit I I’ve been I’ve been seeing this team play better defense and it’s not a mirage they’re getting better they’re getting significantly better which is

Again why I chose the under tonight I I completely felt like the suns were going to put a good defensive effort against a team like this don’t lie in the first half you were at halftime you look at that score and you go no maybe I made

The wrong call I was I have nervous about the under did you feel I was nervous I I really never felt nerv I mean nervous as sa at the end of the game but yeah no I will I will say this they’re starting to get that identity on

Defense as well a lot of scrappiness I think to your point Grayson is is showing that he is a heck of a Team Defender like he really gets the principles on defense and he makes up a lot of people’s errors and in that first half you’re talking about a lot of the

Indiana PAC of movement with ner getting stuck was causing confusions on the backside and they would just into the lane wide open so Eddie made a point on on a telecast he was like you know what in this particular game Nerf being out maybe ain’t bad because this this

Movement and Pace didn’t fit them well they they were a lot better with Eubanks in the game and a lot of those miscommunications weren’t happening and so they’re they’re getting it done on the defensive end and then the last thing I’ll say is their offense is some

Of their defense man they apply so much damn pressure on offense that you saw the Pacers today they had some shots that I seen them make but they looked exhausted too they were like man these guys are going punch for punch with us and so I like what I’m saying that’s

What I’m saying about the identity I’m starting to see it come to shape yeah we have a couple super chats here to give KD some love big Vernon sent us one and they said 40 piece with no free throws is crazy and included the goat emoji on

It uh RBG sent us one thank you first Super Chat ever shout out to you go said KD in his bag tonight and shout out to y’all with a a little devil in and a purple and orange heart apprciate thank you appreciate you being here uh

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Let me let me finish let me finish it’s like okay book has 50 plus points the other the other night and he didn’t do the same thing tonight and he struggled there in the second half and yeah he probably took a a couple ill-advised shots that he probably shouldn’t have

And he should have deferred but but in the first half it wasn’t like that right so it’s and and this is this is what you’re going to get with the big three sometimes one guy’s gonna be off another guy’s going to pick him up and that’s what happened tonight and we could sit

Here I mean I I guarantee you nobody in this chat wants us to sit here and just spend 15 minutes just dogging Out book but for what he still had 26 points he still was a good player he defensively I thought he played very well like just

Chill guys we won the game what are we what are we mad about even when KD has a bad game we don’t go off the rails for 15 minutes on KD or Bradley Beal like it’s just chill guys can I get the two shot here I I’ll give I’ll give

Something to the chat Devin Booker was cheeks in the second half all right he was two of 12 177% we get it he was terrible in the second half but in the first half they’re not in the game without him in that half it happens but

He looked terrible in the second half if that makes you feel better it’s the honest truth two of 12 is crap okay and that is the honest truth Kevin Durant carried him in the second half well Devin Booker disappeared in the second half uh after he scored 52 the last yeah

And you know what the part that that’s crazy about this is that with now where’re what are we doing are we just looking at box score points and I mean this this basketball is a complete game man like the other night KD had 26 but he did a whole bunch of good things

Defensively and we mentioned it book didn’t shoot great tonight he almost had a triple double he had I mean d he had eight assists six rebounds two Ste I mean so 26 points eight assists six rebounds two steals yeah I I mean come on what are

Y’all what are we doing here this ain’t competition guys I’m getting it’s kind of getting ridiculous where we’re trying to pin gu pin teammates that are trying to win a championship together like what are we doing man that’s not basketball yo Eric Eric I think it’s time I think

Do you do you have do you have him it was a Bushi for Booker it was a Bushi for the Suns it wasn’t pretty it got the job done all right Mark another Bushi on the board yeah yeah I mean look he sucked in the second half I’m not gonna

I’m not gonna stand he sucked in the second half and that’s okay because that’s why you bring in KD that’s why you bring in Beal because he can have a bad half and they can still win a game that was close exactly that’s that’s the whole purpose and that’s what I my

Biggest takea away from the game was book carried the first half Katie carried the second half Bradley Beal showed up at the end when you needed him the most they’re a big three for a reason we brought all three of them to the same squad for a reason to do this

Very thing and they’re starting to click and they’re starting to put this together on a consistent basis and it’s fun yeah because Katie looks around and goes well I can’t do it by myself uh it’s happened before where I can’t and I want to be around guys they can help me

When I’m having a bad time and I can lift them up when they’re having struggling in a half I me that’s the reality tonight was the exact night that I talked about in my little blueprint that I said about book Beal and KD KD got 40 bro because he looked around and

Was like like book you ain’t got it bill you okay now it’s my turn like I can’t see how that’s a bad thing like it just blows my mind but the the suns are now on a five game win streak and I don’t give a damn how y’all chop it up I don’t

Care how the stands want to go and rank who’s better on the basketball team they play together their teammates and they on a five game win streak creeping up to Western Conference standings man let’s be happy about that no oh no I’m not disagreeing with you nope I’m pissed I

Want to go back to up at 500 and and the playin talk please oh my God you I listen I get people are upset people want to say their thing and people want to say that we we’re biased one way or another I don’t care like listen we love

The Suns we’re gonna we’re gonna talk about the team and some guys have bad nights like Eric Gordon wasn’t even existent he was nonexistent tonight like you know we’re probably gonna get to him at some point you know the bench had nine points that was terrible like it’s

Just a lot of things we could point to negatively but we do want to start off the show by talking about the win because they won and we should be excited about that that’s right so and we also started the show off talking about Kevin Durant because he was the

Big name right now to close out this game like Anyway y um let’s look at the numbers okay let’s take a look at some of these numbers presented by desert Financial Credit Union Arizona’s Number One Credit Union named by Forbes what’s in the bo all right so the Suns get a

117 110 Victory this is going to be an intriguing talk here because from the three from the three-point line what’s the number we talk about espo 30 to 35 there we go 35 to 40 right they took 20 25 tonight that’s not Phoenix no no no

Yeah can we can we get that old man digest F on eight for 25 32% that’s not nearly enough three-pointers the uh Pacers shoot just a little bit more 14 for 31 for 45% here’s the interesting part field goal percentage the suns were scorching I mean they shot almost 60%

From the field 47 for 82 officially 57% they hold the Pacers to 43% 41 for 94 they had 12 fewer shots than the Pacers yes they did that’s they yes they did and the Pacers shot six fewer threes than they do on average yes they did

This is a weird this is a weird by of numbers you look at the bench points we talked about it 55 to9 you should get your ass destroyed in a basketball game yet you win by seven and this is the one that’s interesting points in the paint no nage tonight basically right

Non-existent some dominate them in the paint 64 to 48 somehow we got all them paint points and KD got no free thr and Brad bill got three yeah now that doesn’t make sense to me because you get that much traction in the paint there’s

No damn way in hell you can tell me that we shouldn’t have more free TOS but that’s how it played out KD did shoot a lot of jumpers but he there’s plenty of opportunities in the paint when he was in there he get the call got some dunks

Early he got a lot of shots at The Rim in the first half yeah lot yeah so I mean the Suns dominate points in the paint that’s a surprise because let me tell you something that’s a long lanky ass Pacer team they are long they are

Athletic and they can all shoot so uh this is an impressive win I’m I’m happy with the way this played out considering all the uh the way the game kind of transpired yeah well I was going to say especially three-point shooting right like that’s kind of a big one tonight and and the

Fact that you when you also add in the bench points in there too the fact that the big three plus Grayson Allen and a couple points from Yousef nurkic as well You Gotta Give Love to Grayson Allen there because he contributed 13 yes um literally carried this entire game yeah

Because you weren’t getting any other points from anybody else that’s right like our bench was rough tonight point you lost a three-point battle yes You by significant right you lost a three-point battle you got uh killed by the bench I mean you’re not supposed to win this basketball game folks you’re just not

Unless you got a big three that can put up almost 100 points Kevin Durant outscored the entire bench by 31 points himself that’s nuts think about that that’s nuts how many guys is that on that bench and he that’s pathetic well you ain’t had to go there Grayson Allen

Out I mean that’s true I mean you don’t you don’t have to reach that to get to that that ninepoint threshold but that’s a problem and it I know that that’s oh I’m breaking news here but that bench I said it to you guys during the game I actually think this bench

Might be worse than last year’s bench because freaking you know Eric Gordon pulled off the mask and oh my God it’s Landry shamon like there this is just I don’t all this supposed upside never came to fruition with this group and you almost can’t even say the Suns have a

Bench they got a handful of guys that can come in and basically be seat fillers for the starters for the few minutes that they get a breather and then they go back and and sit their ass on the pine it’s super frustrating like I know Eric Gordon is the easiest one to

Kind of point the finger at because he takes the most shots Off the Bench and we’ve seen what he can do offensively it’s just so incon consistent at this point but also I mean listen you know I love Josh aogi but he literally refuses to take shots at this point in time he

Is so mentally blocked that even if he so he played 15 minutes tonight he took one shot even if he played 24 minutes I don’t know that you would get a whole lot more from Josh aogi than maybe three shot attempts a game like you can’t have

That you know what I mean kbd 12 minutes zero attempts chimi matu only seven minutes zero attempts Eubanks 11 minutes one attempt wow the the four of us had zero made field goals the bench had two two made field goals in an entire NBA game from your bench they they’re gonna

Have to do something yeah this is they have to and they are that bench is just not not it at all you know I I’m that’s probably my biggest disappointment from the season it’s not even the injuries it’s just the fact that we definitely thought that the the the bench was going

To be at least marginally better than last year yeah and they’re not they might they might be equal to maybe even less because there’s no consistency Off the Bench even Eric Gordon is lack consistency one game he might give you 20 then the next game he’s gonna give

You two like you know what I mean like next three maybe it’s just it’s wild yeah how inept this this bench is and guys like shamei metu who I thought was going to be able to find a role consistently and get into a Groove somehow find a way to be

Non-existent out there yeah and you almost forget that they’re out there on the court and it’s just man they’re going to need to find something I will say this um I I still want to see what the Suns do over the next three weeks and I’m I’m very confident they’re gonna

Do something and the reason why I say that is there there’s still a part of me that realizes Grayson and Gordon were both supposed to be off the bench originally right I don’t know if you can ever move Grayson back to the Ben right I don’t know if he’s playing so well I

Don’t think you can ever move him back to the bench but the plan coming in was to have him and gon Off the Bench which would obviously if you took Grayson’s points and made him bench points it would kind of make things a little closer yeah the question but that was

The understanding that kbd or okayi would be that that fifth start F start theyed they ex and so now that’s my question my question is when you make this deal at the deadline are you making the deal now to supplement and get that guy the starter and then get Grayson

Back to the bench or you are you are you are you surrendering to the fact that okay Grayson’s a starter and now that guy coming in has to be the bench guy okay but the I think you take whatever you can get of course with how little

You have to move right now you take anything what you know what you’re training is you’re little who isn’t even getting on the court what if the guy you’re trading for is an NBA starter is a clear-cut NBA starter never came off the bench it’s situational is he is he an offensive guy

Is he a defensive guy if it’s defense and you’re playing a certain team that that you need more defense than Grayson’s going to bring you and you need that punch up I think you can rotate a little bit based on based on what you need but I look I’m not you’re

Not finding that guy that you can just simply supplant Grayson Allen in the starting lineup unless you’re trading Grayson Allen as part of that because nasier little kbd mzy metu some second round picks aren’t going to necessarily aren’t going to get you that kind of guy that you’re automatically going to go

Grayson sit your ass on the pine because uh this guy’s that significantly better than you I mean listen I’m never gonna say never I don’t know what’s gonna happen during the trade deadline you know there’s tons of rumors swirling out there and and things that I’ve heard

Already so we’ll see what happens but I I would say this you would lean definitely more towards keeping Grayson in that starting lineup than you wouldn’t yes especially right now and if you get somebody that that is you know for instance Grayson’s rep coming into

This season and if you get that kind of guy coming in yeah of course Grayson’s not going to go to the bench he’s going to stay right where he is because he’s comfortable he’s found his Groove in there he’s playing well with the starters and you move whoever comes into

To the bench no problem but the the biggest thing right now is you got to shore up that bench when we get to the playoffs you can’t go six deep you can’t these dudes will get tired by the time we get to the fourth quarter you know

Beill comes out for six minute stretches book comes out for six minute stretches KB uh KD comes out for six minute stretches in the playoffs that tightens up a little bit that goes from a six to a four or you know a three to a one you

Know what I mean so You’ got to find somebody that’s going to be able to just hold everything at afloat while these guys get their rest and can contribute in some way right now you’re getting zero production and that’s going to kill you down the road well and even though

Those numbers tighten up from six to four or three or whatever may be they’re super valuable and critical minutes and we may not need 55 points Off the Bench like the Pacers had tonight but we sure as heck need more than nine yes we do have a big three because

I know some people in the chat are like you don’t need a bench when you got a big three legs and while that is a valuable thing to have a big three who can get you basically close to 100 points in any given night I mean they had 91 points combined tonight 58.5%

Shooting but there are going to be times where that kind of es and flows a little bit and you need to be able to rely on somebody else Off the Bench you can’t have nine points on a regular basis and we’re seeing that on a regular basis I

Will say this I do agree a little bit with some of their points and and what I mean is this you have a big three and are we at a point right now before the deadline are we at a point where it’s the big three and everyone else’s points

Are we there yet are we got a point where it’s like don’t say bench the big three’s points and then what everybody else contribute so now you’re adding nerk to that you’re adding Grayson into that no not yet I think you’re splitting hair not yet I don’t I don’t have the

Energy to do that I look at the stat sheet and I’m looking at the starting five versus the bench like and when you’re looking at another team’s bench versus our bench like what they’re giving us versus what we’re getting like tonight 55 to9 however you slice it is

Not good in any way shap you got NBA players out here that should be able to contribute at some level and they’re not and they’re getting paid to um also uh zeus4 made a good point he said the Nuggets had a seven-man rotation last year and they did just fine which is

True however comma the thing we’re going to go back to is the chemistry right like yic Gordon Murray all those guys have been together for a couple years now um and they’ve established they established something last year that was that was a good firm rotation that they

Knew they were always going to have and that’s that’s why you have that this team does not have that they have not been together for a couple years they haven’t been together for even half a season or they they just now have so there’s a lot of things that go into

That so you need a more of a bench to help out so that way you can overcome things as you go along Suns don’t have seven they have a fiveman rotation right now and Eric Gordon was supposed to be that guy you could pencil in as the

Solid sixth right in the last six games he scored 42 points he has two fewer or two more points than Kevin Durant had this evening right he has not shot 50% but once this entire month he has struggled mightily and if you can’t get consistency out of him you have to find

Options because the bench is only as good as as consistent as it can be right you need to have a few guys you can count on that yeah sure maybe they’re not scoring 15 20 but you know they’re going to get you eight nine 10 they’re going to do the little things

Defensively that you can count on that the Suns have nothing they can count on right now on the bench in any way not not in any way yeah and I think when you go back to flex your question about do you lump everybody who’s not in the big

Three together I don’t think that’s fair to nerk and Grayson Allen to be honest as well because sure nerk is kind of from a points perspective these last two games not really given us a whole whole lot but you know what you’re going to mostly get night in and night out when

It comes to nerk and Grayson Allen nerk might be dependent on the matchup a little bit more than Grayson but I feel like they’re much more consistent than the guys off the bench are and so I don’t know that just feels no I feel you

It feels a little I don’t like it to lump them in there yeah I’m just saying like tonight it was 55 to n but we still won the game what are the numbers if you just took away from the big three like the big three had 92 what do we score

117 right so you got 17 from 92 you got so you got right so you got 26 so that’s not good no that’s not good that group still lost 50 to 26 to the to the entire Pacers bench I get it like I get it I mean something has to

Change there and I’m sure with the trade deadline just around the corner something will change there real quick Cesar said do the Suns go after Jaylen Smith he looks good man I thought he was gonna put up 40 in that first half I mean he thought about it he definitely

Did he little HED up a a couple super chats here I know we talked about Eric Gordon and the bench a couple super chats around that uh don sent us one thank you on they said played five verse eight today four versus 9 if you count EG minutes and Devin Booker going Devin

Bricker mode in that second half and we still won fire Emoji fire Emoji I think the thing that that everybody’s upset about uh in terms of Booker and I mean I’m probably stating the obvious is the fact that when he missed his third fourth fifth one in a row he didn’t

Adjust he just kept gunning and that’s that was a problem a million per that was a problem and he cheeks in that second half as espo said a million percent like listen we’ve called other people out for for for doing similar things you know turnovers or or just bad

Defense or whatever Devon Booker is no different yeah it’s just it’s just comedy to me man people they we calling them out what else do we got say I don’t know we had some guy that was like you guys never talk about KD and how great he was we

Just started the first 10 minutes of the show talking about headline is that we get I’m I’m I’m really God I mean what do you want us to say listen you want us to say like book this is exactly what they want what big Vernon said to Super

Chat and big Vernon said bro you guys do know that it’s just the trolls in the chat trying to stir up this Katie and book canaris and Bs yes you know what if you guys somebody okay sorry if you guys want more KD talk get us to 300 likes

There’s like 1,200 of you in here you want more KD talk we’ll kiss his ass even more if you get us to 300 likes how about that make it happen let’s see y’all get to 500 likes and I’ll I’ll I’ll throw Booker through the ringer go

Ahead 500 likes 500 likes and Booker I’m put them through the ringer tonight go ahead that’s what y’all basically what big Vernon is saying is is like don’t pay attention to the troll so let’s move on uh Josh Joshua sent us one as well they said the reason we knew this team

Is all in is when Eric Gordon passed that ball back out to KD with 10 seconds left no reason to get more points winning is all that matters yeah look growth for Eric Gordon too yeah all around we’re seeing growth with the listen I almost had a panic attack when

When the Pacers did not foul Devon Booker the last 15 seconds because BR because though more than anything sure it was about the game but more than anything it was about your bet wasn’t it I mean it’s always the bet we have some great news you guys I won tonight won

Tonight Flex won tonight and as L tonight hold on everybody lost no but one of these things is not like the other won 12 cents these two guys hit big but sa and flex Saul’s bet tonight was a plus 1,050 odds flex’s bet tonight was plus 850 so the leaderboard is looking a

Little bit nicer Flex is only down $332 let’s go which was like what it was What minus 120 something like that yeah I I carved up $100 basically on that and I’m carving it in tomorrow tomorrow being a black okay I’m I’m telling y’all predict tomor like Charles Barkley I’ll be in a

Black tomorrow and tomorrow I’ll be back in the lead so whatever well as of right now Saul has taken the lead he has $146 look different espo you got $68.50 and I have $29.50 a win is a win is a win you know you know what’s so gratifying and I

Don’t even care if I win anymore I just said at the beginning of the season when I was down by like 150 I said these things take time it’s gonna be fine it’s going to be fine it’s a long season and sure enough the cream has risen coach me

Well I’m watching your yourk you know I’m watching what you did at this rate Lindsay will be at $150 by the end of the season hey let’s go listen at this point as long as I don’t come in last I don’t really care it’s gonna be a win for you

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Will address this yes I do believe at this point bbow will help yeah he will help yeah a million per now do I think he’s GNA turn the whole bench around no but I do think listen he was playing good basketball he was good playing good basketball till he got hurt I’m excited

To see him come back and and contribute to this team uh but hey I I’m a Believer and you know that was actually one of the things so in the pregame show we had um some sound from Frank Bogle he was asked kind of how he would evaluate this

Team after 41 games so far this season and the one thing that he did kind of point out is he feels like they’ve seen um enough basically from everyone else on their team or they’ve gotten to have a good look at everyone except for bbo yeah and hopefully that they’ll get to

See that sooner rather than later with him uh hopefully rejoining the team after dealing with that injury which means maybe we’ll get to see even more buo when he does come back from injury maybe they feel like they can turn things around I mean Flex you told us

The other day Shaq said the only thing holding him back is is himself basically laziness Shaq called him a okay big man called him a top four big man sha also says some wild stuff he he tried to get booked to join Reebok like come on can I

Come on can I also get some context to that uh you know Shaq and Bobo are really close yeah he coached him in a not only that Bobo’s best friend is share with Shaq’s son so so you’re saying he’s biased that’s all right yeah little little bias I mean I imagine

Something was up when he said uh ID joic uh bu and W yeah yeah big man lines wow go watch the the short I break it all down for you I mean listen I get what you guys are saying but also buo may not be a yic an embiid or a

Wy but if what Shaq is saying is true that it’s buo that’s holding himself back with lack of effort or laziness or whatever if that part is true that’s still if you can if you can find whatever to flip that switch that’s still a positive I’m not saying bulbo

Has to be yage but if bulbo can just reach his own potential by not being lazy or whatever it may be that’s great for us too AG so even if it’s just that part that’s the truth that that Shaq was saying even if it’s just that and the

Rest is what another thing is he really Center still a big deal on this team he ain’t playing Center he’s been backing up KD at the four and so listen I love what I seen from him I can’t wait for him to come back from this strain foot

Uh uh foot issue because he was really starting to impact the game and he will help with the bench points and he’s just one of those guys that gets in the game and good stuff starts to happen since he’s been playing so I’m looking forward to it he’s more impactful than chimzi

Yeah and and I think when he comes back you’ll see chimi’s minutes go next to nothing and bull b will pick up some of those backup four minutes uh and and back up five and a pinch if you have to but yeah I I think he definitely can add

A little a little punch to a a freaking bench that hit two shots and scored nine points uh bubo could do that himself so bubo very well could be one of our better bench players when he comes back and I’m at least riding the roller

Coaster how it will be I have no idea but I’m getting on I’m going to ride the roller Co turn I told you I bought my ticket I’m in line and I’m evaluating the coaster and I’m calling my surgeon to see if I can get on all right couple

Super chats here can’t get on you probably can’t uh thunderstand hurting my heart even though I get it uh said J is about as reliable as OJ OJ had that Killer Instinct though J’s missing it too soon too soon still looking forward on the golf course damn that’s just me oh my

Goodness catching OJ straight Adrian sent us one Adrienne said there was some Loser on the internet that said we were going to lose to the Kings and the Pelicans here we are five and0 later that guy can suck it good W I think that guy was uh going back and forth with you

There yeah he sure was for here’s your eler and then I have my boy I had my boy ESO come out with the Tony Montana boom boom boom and then I had my man jump shot you know my boy Eddie Johnson came and said yo stay your ass

On the couch there you go you so yeah it was cool conversation all right we’ll do some more Super chats here in just a minute but here’s what Devin Booker had to say on Bradley Beal taking oh wait is that is this on Devin Booker oh yeah

It’s book and Beal uh book on Bradley Beal taking over down the stretch and the sun’s Big Three uh yes you know it’s the definition of p your poison um and you know all of us coming in with the aggressive mind set you know it’s going

To be it’s going to be tough to stop as you’ve seen late game especially with the spacing out there um you know always always talk about the spacing for us opening up those driving LS and you know just get easy ones at the Run gravity I mean you open up the

Driving lanes because of that gravity so yeah I mean sorry ly go ahead well and Saul to your point too that that one play down the stretch where Beal tried to force it to KD and that was the exact same thing you were talking about like it’s not there but you’re Bradley Beal

That’s what you do yeah and you’re Elite at it so do that thing I’d very much like to see Bradley Beal do that thing a lot more yeah agreed he’s getting more comfortable 100% And that’s part of the not being with the team that long he’s

He’s starting to realize okay I can do this I can take over I can be the man and he’s getting more comfortable in that role it takes time and it’s got to be tough because he was the only guy yeah in in the situation in Washington

And having to adjust so much to being the third guy yeah in in this has got to be a strange way to go about it especially with the injuries that you that you experienc so it doesn’t surprise me he’s starting to come into that form now quick Splash buckets in

The chat said Beal only took over because uh buddy healed as a cone where well yes that’s exactly what the NBA teams do they switch over they you saw that the Grayson was getting guarded by Buddy heeld and and Beal was getting guarded by seum and they ran the pick

And switched and then pigeon yeah that I mean that’s that’s the name of the game how dare they take advantage of the bad defensive player on the floor and if y’all go back and watch the tape of that play sa talking about it wasn’t just one

Time they tried it and then and they were able to recover they tried it again they recovered and they tried it again and they got it so it was three times in one possession they like no no buddy we Ain going to get you buddy we going to

Keep going and so yeah it was it was cool to see Brad do that you can run but you can’t hide that’s right and last thing I will say about the Brad Beal thing is I know something about this sorry sorry sorry sorry I know something about this apologize for the people that

Are listening to it sorry sorry I can I can honestly say I know what Brad be is going through cuz I live it I lived it you know sitting by you guys every night you know what I’m saying when I got here I’m like damn that’s Lindsay Smith BR I’m just glad

That you didn’t say like my boy I remember back in high school when I was like strugg I was like no come on man I’m not saying that but you know when are you g to figure it out that I got I’m halfway through the year you

Know so I know what that’s like being W and smack back injury just like Brad you are the Bradley I know what he’s going through just trust me listen to Lexi baby I got you br’s going to be IR I feel like after that OJ joke I’m the

Devon Booker of the second half here I’ll take you should take another stab out oh no oh since we’re already talking about that fourth quarter a little bit let’s go back to some super chats here Denai sent us one thank you they said when you have three Elite scores ISO ball is a

Detriment because it makes it much easier for the opponent to defend you Sons keep moving that ball please please even even if it’s not the ball I just want to see movement from the other guys yeah to to create a little distraction or create um you got to make the defense

Think a little bit more than what they’re currently doing standing there with your guy in the corner is pretty easy yeah anybody could do it that’s right you know what I mean but once you start moving around the screens or running the Baseline coming up to the top moving around then you got

To think and you got you know you gota concentrate on your defensive rotations you got to put pressure on the defense on more than just ball pressure and that’s not a good defense that’s one of the worst defenses in basketball you made it easy on them tonight you

Literally made it easy so I’m with all and these are Viking socks somebody in the chat say yeah they’re Viking socks all right we got another one again I’m not sure how to pronounce your name and I’m so sorry Shen Shen CH uh Chen uh said I think big

Picture our defense is improving and doing better in fourth quarter we definitely needed all of the big three tonight correct it’s quoto damn s you nice yeah CH quits a yeah Myers yeah thank you for your Super Chat and I agree I think it’s slowly but surely improving um and Kevin Durant is

A big reason why yep yeah um hos sent us one thank you hos that said Beal is the secret weapon to the championship Booker is the most important player and ktie is the best player anyone disagree yes yeah I don’t I’m not doing they’re they’re all equally important they’re all

Equally great I’m not doing this anymore I don’t care game the head of the snake or who’s the the [ __ ] tale of the ass I don’t give a [ __ ] they’re all equally important I’m not doing this anymore no I think this is the best description we’ve heard of it because it’s giving

Everybody credit for their ability but because they’re not all the same there are different roles that each of these guys have to play and I think he’s right by saying book is the most important you’re already pitting him against the other two Katie is the best player it

Doesn’t matter you’re saying he’s the most important he is the most important we’re even debating it right now that’s exactly what they he is the most important because we’ve seen if he goes if he completely disappears or isn’t out there this doesn’t work you know and and

If ktie isn’t the best player uh you know it doesn’t work and if Bradley Beal doesn’t do those little things to be the secret weapon in the fourth it doesn’t work so you can you can break it down like that still be giving value to each

Guy I I don’t you know I just don’t think people see it that way I’m also just like at this why you can’t win no matter what you say like you could try and put them all in their buckets you could try and give them all their equal

Love and attention and flowers that they all deserve and somebody will take something and run with it as if you said Kevin Durant was the worst basketball player to ever exist in the entire world and I it’s just it’s not fun I don’t want to play this game never did this [ __ ]

Andari I don’t remember that you have you have yes Mar was sitting there bitching about Marion was sitting there bitching about not getting enough respect Nash was getting the awards and Mari was getting pissed off because he thought he was the best player and people are debating that all the time

It’s Sports this [ __ ] happens because it’s what sports is about is debating stupid things we wouldn’t have a job if we didn’t debate stupid things and that’s what this is about and what do we say every time we have the argument about who’s the goat or who

Deserves to be in the Ring of Honor or whatever why can’t we just enjoy watching them play basketball why can’t we just enjoy what they have given to the game or us as fans why can’t we just enjoy having this big three on our dog on team because that’s not human nature

I’m with you Lindy that’s not not everybody sits around and goes hey everything should be equal and and all love because people argue about dumb [ __ ] it’s why the internet is around it’s why YouTube that we’re on is around people argue about stupid [ __ ] if you

Don’t want us to let’s just sit here and talk about azab buuk and and Sabin Lee not playing tonight and we’ll just sit there and we’ll discuss that and nobody will have an argument because who gives a [ __ ] that’s that’s that’s the that’s the alter we talk about these three oh we

Talk about the end of the bench that didn’t even play there’s nothing in the middle no in well if you look at the stat sheet there really isn’t an in between tonight listen I’m fine if we want to argue about these three when it’s all said and done and all of them are

Retired fine fair game but while they’re here all on our same team playing with the same name across their chest can we not maybe sure can we just agree to that maybe I’m with you ly I rather talk about the team and how they’re doing than who’s this who’s that who’s the best

Player this team’s nothing and I’m Gonna Stand By You know what you know what maybe that’s what we should do maybe that’s what we should do all right more Super chats uh I don’t know how to say this one so I’m just gonna say

Vqk LR it’s y um I have no idea so but thank you for your super chat we do appreciate you they said bring back TJ War and at this point Sho even TOS in t- Ross he’s tired but yeah how bad is it two of the bench guys from last year

Aren’t even in the league and we still think that bench might be better than this one bring John Wall in where you at it I mean to be fair I mean they they were better they just didn’t get a lot of playing time uh Brian sent us one

Thank you Brian they said with the big three back now players that were getting more points and minutes before are just adjusting to their roles especially Gordon fair enough that’s very fair fair enough that’s very fair okay that’s very fair not with Eric Gord no I do think

Eric Gordon is a Justin Eric Gordon’s averaging 25 minutes a game still it’s not like they dropped him to 10 and we like go out there and hit a few shots for us after you’re playing 30 like well just a different but you have to adjust

When the coach tells you if you take it to the rim more than twice a game you will never see the court again that’s on Frank vogle because he should have been saying that when Eric Gordon was at the starting lineup too all right here’s

Another thing I want to point out we be we being hard on EG and I believe me watch a game with me 48 minutes you’ll see how much how hard I am on EG you but but I am going to say this I’m going to

Say this we ain’t on this five game win streak without EG I mean EG hit them two big threes versus Sacramento hit those two threes let me look at this we’re on a four we’ve won four of five then in that case because EG hasn’t done anything else but when we

Needed him most he hit them two big damn threes so I’mma sit here and I’m going give him a benefit of Doubt and I’m going say yo EG if you going if you goingon to miss the ones that don’t matter but you hit the ones that count I’m still on your corner

Listen y’all are going to hate me for this transition but I’m not gonna say it I’m just GNA let you remember do the transition fine EG’s got to start to eat he’s got to eat and you can eat too by going to some burs that was mine you

Stole my head I thought mine was funny the review guy sent us a chat and said last year’s bench was booty this year’s bench is cheeks but you know what’s not booty or cheeks somewhere El they do sell beef cheeks I think that’s take it away no oh now you oh now

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Why not order a party platter from our friends at some burrow or send them to pick it up for you you’ll have it before the game’s over they got margar too you guys y’all are y’all are crazy uh Kev said the ad retransition was cheeks yeah probably one of the greatest that’s all

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Welcome into the show our fifth member Gerald boray from the footprint Center Gerald how’s it going I’m doing great how are you guys not too shabby I like that shirt G money shirt looking shop thank you thank you get from the fiance nice Gerald what did they say about the

Fourth quarter I know there was um was like shut up F we go what you I think you want me to talk about your shirt Bo I don’t think Lindy likes your shirt she moved away from that so fast Gerald where is it from what size is it what’s

The fabric how do you wash it when did you get it is that velvet did they let you in the club out there with that I don’t want to do this can we go to the question let’s go g let’s goad L see I knew exactly what Gerald wanted

Anyway Gerald obviously the fourth quarter there were some ups and downs uh defense to close it out was huge though what if Frank and the guys say about that yeah I mean obviously there was that stretch where KD and book couldn’t really buy a bucket they were getting a

Lot of the mismatches that they wanted some of the shots that they wanted but they weren’t falling and then Bradley Beal was able to kind of come to the rescue and attack off the drive it feels like they win at buddy heeld on five or six straight possessions they had

Grayson Allen who was buddy hee’s man screen for Beal and he was a able to get downhill or he was able to find Grayson when they were able to switch there and stay on their man so the suns were able to execute down the stretch which is the

Biggest thing um you know Frank Google was saying it’s new in regards to that lineup that they closed to of the last three games with that small ball lineup with KD at the five um but they’re they’re growing they’re continuing to evolve together is what vogle said and

Uh you know he he kind of smiled when he was asked about the sun’s five-game win streak he said well health is the number one thing but we are growing together we are evolving we’re being able to try new things together um and obviously when

You have a guy who goes for 40 without taking a single free throw that doesn’t hurt either so Gerald if I squint and look at that shirt long enough what animal do I see I’m sorry I’m sorry genuinely love the shirt your fiance’s got great taste Gerald have you

Been able to talk to Bradley Beal and figure out how he’s feeling in terms of his role uh it feels like at times he’s kind of just a he’s just a bystander out there he’s not really doing much and then there’s other times like towards

The end of the game where he realizes oh I have the mismatch on Hee and I’m going to go to the bucket and I feel like he should be a little bit more aggressive than I I think he is at times sometimes you forget he’s out there uh have you

Ever have you talked to him about that is there any opportunity to talk to anybody else about that or have you asked about that we haven’t been able to talk to Bradley Beal honestly he left the locker room we got KD and book at the podium and he left the locker room

He timed it pretty well um he he’s not one that’s big on the media based on what we’ve experienced so far hopefully we’ll be able to talk to him soon at practice and get to talk well actually no because they’re going on this big ass

Road trip so it’s going to be a couple months before we’re able to talk to Bradley Beal about this unfortunately we we’ve been working on it but um to your point about his aggression I I feel like I didn’t get that sense tonight I have gotten that sense over this stretch

Where they’ve started to kind of put chemistry together a little bit I think that’s part of the feeling out process um tonight it it felt that way until you get down the stretch and you look at the stat sheet and like Kevin Durant he was

16 of 22 at one point 17 of 23 like he probably want that guy to keep shooting there was a stretch there where book was cold and it felt like he couldn’t buy a bucket and maybe that’s when you want to get Brad more involved but looking at

The lineup he Brad didn’t come back in until I think there was like five minutes left something like that so it’s one of those things where it’s going to be a give and take would like to see Brad start to be a little bit more aggressive at the start of the second

Quarter because it feels like when book plays the whole first he comes out those lineups at the start of second and fourth quarters have kind of struggled at times and it’s usually him and KD out there so I would like to see Brad be a little bit more aggressive in that

Formulation because when the three of them are on the court he’s probably always going to be the third guy unless he has that kind of definitive mismatch like you were saying against healed down the stretch which the Suns went to but it was kind of a breath of fresh air

Having a guy with that downhill mentality vogle said he was he’s unique in that regard in terms of being able to sense like okay we’ve we’ve taken a lot of mid-range jumpers here we’ve settled a little bit I’m gonna put my head down and get to the basket and that’s what he

Did a couple of times there G I got a question uh first of all I think Brad is dipping on y’all because he got the wife and kids Katie and them you know they playing video games all night so he like y’all handle this I’m go home you know

But uh I do have a question about my magic number the number I always like to talk about is that 35 to 43o attempts back to 25 tonight I know KD went spoke with you guys in media a couple days to go and was stressing that you know when

We at 25 26 27 that’s not that’s not what they need to be but for some reason tonight they reverted back to that any questions to Frank about that any questions to KD and book about the volume of Threes tonight and why it was

So low not to Frank but talking to KD I think he was pretty comfortable with their offensive flow tonight they didn’t generate a ton of thre but he did say you know the way that they were playing us defensively it felt like all three of

Us were able to get to our spots and that’s what we ultimately want um tonight it happened to be a lot more mid-range heavy um but in KD’s case he was absolutely phenomenal from that area of the floor book was for the first half of the game so they they kind of just

Kept going back to that well and maybe in you know in the fourth quarter you’d like to see them mix it up a little bit um you know even run some ball screens because there were a couple possessions where it felt like they just gave the

Ball to book or KD the other guys just spaced the floor and they let him go one-on-one um maybe one too many times down the stretch there it got a little stagnant but um I do think they were happy overall with their offensive process against the Pacers team that

Kind of struggles defensively to keep guys in front of them one-on-one gotcha obviously bench points were kind of a big glaring number tonight 55 for the Pacers b nine for the Suns now we do have a big three and that helps make up a lot of the ground there

But Gerald what are your thoughts on just the bench and their inability lately to contribute offensively I mean on the one hand I get it because you look at the raw numbers and it looks pretty glaring and the bench wasn’t like great tonight but like they only took eight shots combined for

The bench so like when you have your big three going for 91 points on what was it like almost 60% shooting those guys aren’t going to get a ton of shots I think out of the eight bench shots uh Eric Gordon got six of them and he had a

Really rough shooting night so that’s going to skew the numbers quite a bit um Gordon’s been in a little bit of a funk but he’s a veteran he’s going to figure it out he’s still shooting I think like 37 or 38% from three on the year so you

Kind of want to stick with him and you want to stick with the guys that you think might be part of the rotation they’re still kind of experimenting a little bit and I think Yousef nurkic’s foul trouble didn’t help in terms of starter heavy minutes tonight but um you

Know it kind of is what it is you don’t need those guys to score a ton of points if Eric Gordon has a game where he goes for 10 or 15 then you’re really dangerous but outside of that nobody else on this bench is really going to

Have those nights and I think that’s okay as long as they defend and the starters are playing heavy minutes and scoring the way that they’re capable of uh Jerald you said that uh Booker and KD were at the podium together right I believe the chat wants to know that

Booker turned to KD and thank him for carrying his ass in the second half God based on what they’re saying honestly though what did what did book say about his his second half shooting obviously he struggled in that second half yeah I think he was saying you know

I’m I’m just trying to make the right play and a lot of the a couple of shots it felt like maybe he forced but other than that they were attacking mismatches the same ones he had been T attacking in the first quarter in the first half when

He went off um and they were able to move the ball around a little bit there down the stretch as soon as they went to that small ball lineup after the timeout when uh the Pacers had hit a three to go up two two they got some great ball

Movement out of that that resulted in a Kevin Durant three and I think book had the assist on that so for him it’s always about making the right play and making the right read in situations he said you know I don’t approach it if I’m hot or cold like trying to score trying

To facilitate based on that I just kind of look for the right play and go from there while still trying to stay in attack mode and I think that’s where the Suns want him to be because when they’ve really struggled offensively it’s been when he’s kind of been in his head and

Trying to be you know Chris Paul are one of these true point guard type of guys okay anything else Gerald no I I think look they’re they’ve won five straight they’ve won 10 of their last 13 um and defensively I think over that stretch they’ve climbed to

Borderline top 10 in the league they’re a top five offense over that stretch it feels like defensively they’re really starting to figure things out um it’s still going to take some time but this was even without halberton this was a really good offensive team that they

Were able to hold to eight points I think over the last few minutes down the stretch so uh you know we want to see it against fully healthy opponents fully healthy top tier offenses and see if they can continue to string momentum but um it’s it’s kind of starting to come

Together on both ends for this groupal I like the shirt very much I would I would support that it’s a fantastic shirt it also reaffirms the fact that I’m not color blind because I can see the number one on there I think somewhere no somebody said that in the chat so I

Figured I thr you him it’s him with the one I like it g all right Gerald we’ll see you later thank you peace out G everybody make sure to follow Gerald on social Jerald Borg and of course read all of his amazing articles covering the Suns over at go

Phx.com all right we have a couple more Super chats here Leo sent us one thank you Leo they said there’s rumors that the Pelicans are open at trading herb Jones uh James Jones and matsh ba start calling I mean what we giving up for herb Jones guys yeah four second round

Picks and whatever non-scoring bench guy you want he hasn’t played at all I mean listen I’m I’m I love the question I get it like I would I would love herb Herb’s incredible um exactly what this team could use but we just ain’t got enough

Of herb but the problem is this is the problem with the Bradley Beal trade is that you basically traded away nothing for something because you were going to get rid of Chris Paul anyway yeah so now is convinced people to think that you can flee other teams yeah so you kind of

Set yourself up for failure it’s a legit question I don’t think the Suns have enough to get you can only do it if a guy has a no trade class yeah that’s really what the biggest kicker was for that one yeah was the no train CA sometimes you know he the moment you

Don’t think about that hey can we get Zack LaVine for n your little four four second round picks and maybe throw a chimzi would you want him I would want him I’m just picking a name that’s available the tabl could turn on us at a certain point too because Bradley Beal

Still has a no trade clause if we ever tried to to move on from him before the contract’s up you could probably say the sun’s probably got fleeced they happening I’m just saying if it happens you’re not getting fleeced for that contract James Jones or James Johnson

Sorry my head’s already there uh esbo LOL the juice go Sons the juice there you go I took a swing and you got it super I got I said okay well now I don’t remember what I said the first time it doesn’t matter because he said LOL you got my name

Right the first time and I don’t remember how I pronounced I don’t remember how I pronounced it either GNA go Chin Chin yeah ch ch I think that Mak you said it bro you said that you actually said yeah but I said it the first the first time I said it I [ __ ]

It all up oh and that’s what he’s saying was right so okay I think we’re G CH I’m just GNA go tan than you for another Super Chat we do appreciate you there you go that’s a good one uh don sent us one Royce O’Neal and Nick Richards and we have our

Eight um yeah I mean I I wouldn’t mind that uh I think Nick Richards is a guy that they can they can potentially get um I don’t know how you get Royce and Nick comp didn’t they say didn’t they it wasn’t the report and I know it’s subterfuge season it’s [ __ ] season

Out there but wasn’t the report that the Nets wanted two first round picks for Royce O’Neal yeah yeah how you getting in on that dance I know you know four hey four seconds hey it’s it’s almost the same I thought no no no I thought it

Was two first for DFS was it DFS Smith which is still wild yeah still wild either way they’re overvaluing their talent right now in Brooklyn that’s what everyone does though at least to start with Rome sent us one they said yo what’s up guys Katie 40 piece how we feeling [ __ ] amazing my

Boy R my G it was super Pops I said was good baby Sith Lord sent us one they said 25 more likes for 15 minutes of KD [Laughter] praise the wrap this [ __ ] up I mean honestly we are coming to a closed here I do want to remind you guys on Tuesday

No yeah Tuesday what is today today is Sunday Wednesday so on Wednesday when the Suns take on the Mavs we’re hosting our putting party it’s going to be an absolute blast out at putting world it is presented by mlob Ultra and a ticket to the event gets you unlimited beer and

Wine plus free ping and we’re going to be giving away a lot of really cool things as well including son’s tickets the most important thing is is that we’re watching the Suns together yeah we’re going to have the game on there it’s going to be a blast

And um it’s a really cool spot up there in Scottdale Absolut like I had a really good time when we went and checked it out so come hang out with us again January 24th for our watch party SLP putting party you can get your tickets at go phx.com and like I said unlimited

Beer and wine plus free ping can’t go wrong with any of that especially when you’re mixing in the Suns all right to close out the show let’s all go round table and say one nice thing about Kevin Durant ESP well you start Kevin Durant

Is a top five player all time in the NBA and that’s it I mean that’s the truth of the situation if you if I gave you a Mount Rushmore it would be Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant LeBron James and Kevin Durant top four of all time in my opinion I don’t

Know what else I could tell you magic would like a word for I don’t know if I could top that one well you got to try something you don’t have to top it it doesn’t have to top it you could just say something nice I’m gonna say something something nice listen Kevin

Durant is by far one of the most elite scorers of all time but the thing I love the most about Kevin Durant is he is just Kevin Durant and he doesn’t really give a [ __ ] so he doesn’t even give a [ __ ] about this conversation he could care less about any of the other

Conversations if you say something wrong he’s gonna come at you or he’s just gonna ignore you like he’s probably gonna do the from to W from now on so listen we love KD I offered KD a year supply of OG actually a lifetime supply

Of OG on behalf of our friends at OG so uh anytime he wants to smoke weed I’m down listen there are very I love it let’s smoke some weed KD let go Baby listen you don’t got to go all the way home you can just come straight to the studio it’s only right

Up the street it’s rolled up baby go baby I want I want that as a show oh my God you me K get hiding there I would do that [ __ ] in a second are you kid who says no to that abolutely nobody in their right mind that’d be a blast um

Listen there are very few people who I will wake up for in the middle of the night Kevin Durant was one of them and that’s saying a lot okay when Katie got traded to the Suns I chose to get out of bed because I could have ignored that

Phone call I totally could have ignored it and pretended like I was asleep but I didn’t because I was that excited because it’s Kevin freaking Durant hold can I say one more damn thing yes please no no about eight months of my life was dedicated to [ __ ] Kevin Durant in

That summer where Katie was I mean I’m not joking man I almost got divorc bro my wife was like if you say one more damn Kevin Durant thing in this house so I mean if I I love Kevin Durant I there’s no way I put that much time and

Effort into a particular basketball player if I didn’t think he was one of the best I’ve ever seen in my life so he and we are so happy to have Katie book and Bradley Beal on this squad I’ve been trying to get EJ to just try an OG’s and

He he swears at some point he will so that’s cool uh could you imagine the first time he did it we all did it with with with KD oh [ __ ] my God that would be so awesome oh [ __ ] it’ll never happen but dreaming is free dreaming is free

All right guys we got another one tomorrow it’s a quick turnaround the Suns will take on the Bulls we’ll have a pregame show for you 30 minutes before tip off and of course a postgame show as well let’s keep it rolling enjoy tonight and make sure to meet us right back here

Tomorrow and until we see you then you can give the show a follow on social PHX Suns you can follow me at lindsy Smith a you can follow Saul at saor Bookman you can follow Flex at Flex from Jersey and you can follow espo at espo ESO take us

Home just remember whether you’re Kevin Durant or Tao madon you’re all members of the Suns and that’s all that matters let’s all Gather in a circle hold hands and sing Kumbaya oh Hoy hoy [Applause] we all sitting like the mayor

24 Comments

  1. Beal really came through at the end there. KD I still can’t believe is on the Suns sometimes it’s like a dream. Would really love an athletic defensive big at the deadline like Royce O’Neal and maybe another good wing like kuminga

  2. KD has nothing to prove. And he doesn’t need lawyers to defend him. With or without podcast’s praises, he’s fine. But he’s in Suns now…and Suns is Booker’s team. That’s why we should cheer them both on. Booker is much better than most players loved by the media…so this podcast who gets loud and hyped up when Booker shows up in a game doesn’t upset me. Part of KD’s legacy is his influence on Booker and their partnership in Suns jersey. Stop the comparison. Don’t get salty when podcasts don’t give KD flowers and just use him as scapegoat when things go wrong. He doesn’t need defending. Let’s all cheer SUNS on please. 🙏🏼

  3. How do you expect the Suns bench to score a lot when they only took 8 shots the whole game? But yeah Gordon was not shooting well. He took 6 of the 8 shots off the bench. We stagger lineups now so the bench won’t get many shots. As long as they defend well, they did their job.

  4. Why would we slander Devin?! These KD fans are getting so effing annoying
    He's on your team!
    Hate is crazy!

  5. Don't let loser fans stop you from giving love to Book

    He's our franchise player!!! Yes we love him, cry!

  6. This is KD team we can win without Booker having a good game but we can’t win the other way around he is unselfish but it’s crazy that Suns fans want Booker to be the best player and he not even a all star starter he is a good player but please appreciate greatness KD could of went anywhere

  7. The gaslighting is a bit insane tho.. so book goes off and it’s “he’s the driver, and kd is the passenger, the team goes as book goes, it’s books team, book’s the best, etc.” and then when kd fans return that EXACT same energy when kd has a good game now all of a sudden it’s “let’s not compare, we need all of them, etc”. We don’t need likes for you to talk about KD, bc you wouldn’t need likes to talk about Book – and that’s what kd fans are saying. Book could fart and y’all would call it perfume. Trying to act like the people calling out the hypocrisy are crazy is the textbook definition of gaslighting.

  8. You can point out the lack of bench points as a negative, but I think it’s encouraging that this team can still win with no bench points. We can’t expect the bench to score loads of points every game anyway, they are the bench for a reason.

  9. Man I say it every game book need to pass more!! There’s no reason to shoot the team out of games because you too aggressive🤦🏽‍♂️
    It’s hella hoopers on this team

  10. I missed the Pelicans game and when I was watching this one, I could swear it felt like the broadcast was in 1.5x speed. Suns are finally playing fast. It was legit trippy to see them pushing the pace finally.

  11. My problem with Booker is that he’s never admits when he did something wrong or had a bad game. He has to learn to be that accountable leader that is willing to take the blame and admit mistakes…

  12. I’ve been loving the quick shots and pace the suns have been playing with the last couple games too many time they take forever to get into their sets and end up getting doubled at the top of the key at least they’re getting a lot more shots up now

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