‘HE ROBBED US OF THAT FIGHT’ – SPENCER FEARON PRAISES JOSHUA & BEN DAVISON | REACTS TO WILDER LOSS

INTERVIEW BY ANDREW McCART

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I’m [Applause] fine Andrew ml TV delighted to be joined by Mr Spencer feon Spencer the first thing I see when I look at this screen is I see a number 50 on that birthday card over there happy birday brother thank you very much my friend we spoke a little

Bit off camera man I’m 10 years younger than you but I look a little bit I look older than you which is I mean I do eat right I do train right um like I say maybe maybe having no sun in Scotland and fighting the elements is probably

The wind and the rain and the sleep maybe just aging me quicker I would say maybe that but you you also got a concern about your diet and uh and I would say um gracefully um your health is your wealth so once you understand that you gotta continually be healthy and do healthy

Stuff and um I would say meditation got a lot to do with it and also prayer so once you’re praying you’re good so you I mean we’re winning out here definitely may also say thank you because that’s actually from Kisha and Dom and they so got me something like

Our kids go to the same school so I going a massive shout out to the right family because they’re good people so thank you oh good good listen this must be a little manave because I see some awards there I seen boxing gloves when you spun the camera I see a head there’s

No way you’re there’s a head guard behind you don’t move your head move your head there a head guard you’re not in the corner in this my I’m in my office so in the corner office I got like loads of boxing equipment now as

Well so yeah I mean what was it um Bravo thanks to them they sent me like I help out um a lot of the kids at the power mobile gym big up my little niece um Shan so I got like so I do little bits with them so it’s it’s all good but

Obviously we have not you haven’t contacted me on on boxing day to talk about nothing else but boxing how you mean how profound is that that’s what I’m talking about I was sitting here I got home late Christmas Eve early early morning Christmas day spent time with

The family spent went down to see my mom today and I thought you know what I spent a day and a half and I haven’t spoke boxing yet and let’s see what Spencer’s up to I know Spencer will good to talk boxing his boxing day so let’s

Talk about it let’s talk about what happened in Saudi Arabia I was blessed and lucky enough to be out there um to witness something magnificent not just the fight night but just the way the Saudi Arabians the way Saudi and turkey Al shake his Excellency are just their

Mind and the way their their vision of everything that’s to come H it’s going to be tremendous it’s going to be big but Spencer I want to talk boxing so just let’s just jump straight in at the deep end Anthony Joshua UT Allen um a lot was made of a being his tricky

Southp coming off the gasf win he’s a tough he took Dice and few the distance a lot was made of Anthony Joshua’s mindset going into this his trainer changing trainer again to Ben Davidson um and then he pulled off that performance just explain to me what you saw from Anthony joshu on

Saturday um I saw a man who who had belief in himself I think the last two fights that Annie joshu’s had he hasn’t had a totality or belief and like I stated before if there is no enemy within the enemy outside can do you no harm and I think with anony Joshua

Especially with his mindset and everything else that you know he’s found he’s found himself and I’ve got to give credit to Ben Davidson um I’m not going to say was Ben Davis at the right place at the right time I think antiy Joshua needed someone that he could connect with he’s

Connected with this person on the boxing philosophical standpoint and I think that antiy Joshua is connected with himself on the spiritual standpoint and because he’s done that now we’re going to get performances like that from anony Joshua where he believes in himself right everything else had

Nothing to do with no trainers or down toy Joshua is if an Joshua had that belief in himself and I think he’s now being surrounded um by people that are actually trying have made him reconnect with his his belief and now that he’s got that Andrew I’m telling you this guy

I said this before with you I said like I don’t doubt that an Ane Joshua could become heavyweight champion of the world again he boxed on Saturday night and he proved to the world that he can actually become heavyweight champion of the world Again the thing is as well obviously there was a lot made of this tricky Salpa that gave Tyson Fury kittens who beat gasv there was a lot made there was a lot hus on aen being a tougher fight for Anthony Joshua than Parker was for Deontay Wilder in that fight week but

Joshua made that fight but look easy I I I probably count one punch that maybe landed on Joshua but Josh they’re straight left down straight left round three yeah counted and I think that Joshua’s just went in there with the the right game plan all fight we expect you

Know yourself ex fighter you’ve been in the game long enough when every other fighter on that fight card is talking about the fights that could happen in the future Anthony Joshua was straight down the middle Walling don’t talk to me about Wilder don’t talk to me about

Tyson Fury don’t talk to me about usk talk to me about Walling and then we’ll talk after that was his mindset I think that paid off it did it did pay off and credit where credit where you got to give it man you have to give it to where listen that

Was impressive and the thing that impressed me the most about Annie Joshua in his performance was the way that he was ready to stamp Authority right so when you’re doing that you shown you showed me and I don’t care who it was against right that you’ve kind of exercised those demons

Right or that thing of like your lack of self-belief which I was seeing many times in I saw in the I saw that in the helenus fight I saw that in a Frank especially in a Franklin fight because really and truly now I believe that I

Was justified now in saying that if if Franklin I know Annie Joshua I’m saying if Franklin went over six rounds with Annie Joshua that he should retire Franklin would have gone three rounds with Annie Joshua that we saw on the weekend holy as it is right so I know

That everything was down to Ane Joshua and he start to believe in himself and credit Ben Davidson for instilling that belief in him that’s I got to S now straight standed but you could see from the little Snippets of training that he was doing right um when he was

On the bag and he’s punching mits you could see like he was he was going to be very intentional with the shots that going to be from right and I I believe it’s the cation of everything that Josh has gone through with he training Rob M kren with he training with um Angel

Fernandez with his training with Robert Garcia with his training with Derek James like I said Derek James is sack now you know that you do realize that right Dereck James is sacked he’s got enough money but Derek Dames is gone right and we’re GNA see now where where

Andy Joshua Pro proceeds to you I’m I’m looking forward to it I am so I am so looking forward to it you expect him to stay with Ben Davidson I mean at the post fight press conference he was heaping a lot of Praise on Ben Lee Wy

And all the rest of the guys down at the that gym do you see that being the future team going forward for Anthony Joshua Mo most definitely is going to be right because if he had a stand out performance like that uh and he’s he’s

Had two parts with dere James if he had a stand out performance like that right then he would stay with Derek James he didn’t have those performances with him and I think it’s a lot to do with like him being back in the UK right him being

Right and just things jelling and it’s Jed I can’t say that I didn’t think it was going to J I’m gonna be real but it’s it’s j right yeah I know right it’s it has properly Jed so all the props in the world to that team I can’t sing enough

Praises and and I’m not even forgetting you I mean my guy Barry Smith as well because he’s part of the team as well right I’m I’m not I can’t I can’t I’m saying like it’s easy to say okay then you’ve got this finally tuned athlete un

Joshua but it’s not only that is Anthony Joshua being mentally correct cuz Anthony Joshua is a phenomenal athlete anyway but now that he is mentally correct we could see that in the fight I’m looking forward to to knowing what we’re going to get from this young

Man and I still call him a young man because I’m still Uncle Spence to these kids so it’s like I’m looking forward to see what’s gonna happen definitely me too now Spence I do want to talk keep talking about Joshua but obviously the future fights but I’ll run down the card

Quickly Joseph Parker upsetting and almost shut out against deont welder did you see that did you see that be honest because I didn’t see that happen be real I’m gonna be real myself and tundy saw this upset right with with the watch along on the fights right channel right on the SEL

Channel and I saw it pry JD D who works for TNT now and Ron Macintosh was doing the BBC commentary for the live link for the radio I phoned them the night before I was on the phone to them right and I said remember I’m telling you that Jose

Parker is gonna be deont wilder and they laughed at me like I was on drugs so much that I felt embarrassed I changed my mind because I saw Josie Parker box the last time out and I’m telling you Jo is clicking for Joseph Parker jie Parker is

A problem and I’m going to tell again for people who know boxing if you don’t know boxing I’m going to let you know Joseph Parker was the was one of the major factors the reason of the demise of Geor Joyce and people say what you talking about because it was Zang no

It’s always the fights before watch the fights before that was a very very hard fight for Jo for for for jie Parker because he came at second best but it was also a very very hard fight for Joel Joyce and those fights take their toll on you right but what

Did he do he had to go back to draw board he’s had to Humble himself because he’s in the camp with Tyson Fury so you know you ain’t number one you’re not number one in your Camp right you’re number two but you’re number two in your

Camp for a good reason because maybe he needs that because in New Zealand he’s a massive Superstar right you know I know Joe everyone Joe’s proper people nice people joose Parker y he’s a massive star he’s humbled himself to say right I’m going to the UK I want to go around

And Andy Lee credit to him reason why Andy Lee because Andy but and was around the old Master Inman he Not only was around he lived with him right Andy knows boxing and Andy also knows game plans you don’t believe me go sit down and talk with him so they

Made the correct game plan for Wilder but then also is it more to do Wilder’s found himself as well he’s found himself that killer intin that Killer Instinct he’s content he’s civilized now man right and a lot of That’s Got to Do with Malik Scott trying to make him a

Boxer right you if it’s working you know what they say if it’s not broke don’t fix it add to things but Deontay wild was trying way too hard to be suing L right when he should have been who he was but like maybe like Little fine tweaking but you don’t change what this

Guy has got he’s got phenomenal punching power right and now it’s like oh he’s just a one trick pony but that pony is got that trick no more so it was a lot to do with I’m not going to take away not nothing to do with Josie Parker Josie

Parker he’s a damn good fighter man right and when I was in Saudi for his last fight out I was out there big up gold star on Spencer Brown when I was out for that fight and I watched Josie Parker and the things that I saw in him

I to me I said it I think I said it on one of your enemies Josie Parker is better now than he was when he world champion and like I reading the comments shout out SP what you talking about are you you GNA disagree with me now he’s

Just the best one of his career defitely I’m not gonna disagree with your Spence but what I will say was that whole fight week I got to spend a lot of time with Andy Lee and and Joseph Parker even just off camera just sitting down maybe having a coffee or whatnot

And I’ve never seen a team so confident leading up to that fight week I mean they were Ultra confident with the self-belief and you know yourself when you’ve got belief in yourself and everything’s just clicking whether it be consistency and fights that was his what third fourth fight this year against

Wilder he just had that belief in him when he he couldn’t Envision himself losing he never thought about that and that’s the way he went into that fight with like trust me I’m beating him and the self belief that Joseph Parker was just is something I hadn’t seen before in a

Fighter that that that self I’ve seen fighter say I ain’t losing this fight and they’ve got that self belief but the way Joseph Parker you know Joseph Parker Spence he’s such a nice guy how nice is this man and his self-belief unbelievable him and andye well listen

When you believe in your belief your belief becomes your reality and that’s what happened on Saturday night for him excellent excellent excellent fight for him the fight weren’t good it’s excellent fight for him fight wasn’t really a good fight right it was um because we’re sitting down with his

Expectation what’s Deontay Wilder going to do next and I want to ask this question right and this is not me thring throwing any shots at Malik Scott but where was Plan B for Deontay Wilder in that fight where was it I want to know where where was it that’s all I’m

Saying and that debark of a performance has robbed us of seeing Anthony Joshua versus Deontay wild is robbed us of that we’re never going to see that fight I was G to touch on that before I spoke about de Miller but we’ll talk about de Miller in a minute that you you

Think that fight is dead even with the excitement bro bro the fight the fight’s dead the fight’s dead I’m gonna be real to you the fight’s dead there is no interest in and if I was an Joshua I wouldn’t take that fight NE the fight’s dead right go and fight herovic for the

Vacant ibf because you know the titles are going to become fragmented after um usk versus Tyson Fury gonna get fragmented um the fight is dead and especially after that performance there is no reason to say that anyway he Deontay wild would have to come back and have some really big

Boy Knockouts like um you know i’ like to see Deontay Wilder fight you’re G think I’m crazy I like to see fight D Sora I I thought you GNA say Jo Joyce there no I like no no no no I’d like to see fight dor that’s the fight I’d like to

See you know you’re gonna get comment for that I know him I’d like to see that because as far as I’m concerned it’s a safer fight now for d z i’ never wanted to see that before I’d like to see it now right d would come to try and stick

It on him and Deontay wild would have no no no nothing else much yeah I would like to see that fight I’ve said it well I do want to touch well like I said to you but I want to touch on a fighter that you probably just I never saw your

Watch longer I was out in Saudi but I I guarantee you probably jumping up and down out your chair like throwing your head away Daniel de against Jerel Miller eight seconds left or 10 seconds left in the last round Spencer I can Envision you I can already see the way you were

Acting on that that live stream so go ahead I was so was tundy listen um I know Daniel the’s father very well um I’ve known Don Charles 12 years old you I mean um Don Charles been very supportive to me in the in the past especially like when I lost my mom last

Year and it’s nice to see Don Charles get his kopin now you mean he’s been in the game a very very long time um and Dora wasn’t let me tell you the next thing I remember when the the hook up between Don Charles and and uh and and

The war happened yeah and I was telling I was saying to people that Don Charles is a fantastic dancer a lot of people don’t know this like back in the days in the 80s there be a group called The pasadas used to be like they dancer

In the back but Don Charles is a like footwork and stuff Don Charles gets it and where have you seen a big heavyweight right reach round seven 8 nine and be on their toes dancing and popping out shots that’s down to Don Charles right so when everyone’s being critical of him

Linking with Don Charles right I’m so happy that he Daniel D putting that performance not only that for all the naysayers are calling him triple triple knee what triple knee they call him uh he’s taking more KN he be taking more knes than black lives matter he should

Be called Daniel Kaepernick all that kind of right it was so happy it was really cool for me to see him go out he actually a nice kid I know like years ago to be very hard on him that was such a very very good performance it was calculated punching

Um and he showed heart as well because he stood in firing range right he stood in firing range said I’m gonna have it with you and he did that and it all paid off for him and he came out Victorious so you know mean it’s it’s really really

Good for boxing and it’s fantastic for British boxing to see what that young man has done f one thing that gri well really gri me well hit me hard when I interviewed Daniel after the fight I asked one simple question his thoughts on his performance and the sort of like

First words out of his mouth was I couldn’t allow myself to fail again I just thought that you know what fair play to you big man you went in there you you got beat by usk people calling you a two-time quitter and all this sort of stuff and you went in against Jerel

Miller who the Mind Games going ahead of that fight where Jim Mill is just constantly berting you and berting you and berting you to stay mentally strong as well through that fight week and to get that win man it speaks speaks character to the young man I think now

He’s he’s H I think that win that win’s done him good and I think when Frank war was talking about Daniel D being his next star out of Britain I think now he’s back on that path again you know yourself Spencer boxing Snakes and Ladders isn’t it one lost you back down

The snake you back down the bottom of the rung then you get a good win you back up the ladder again I think that’s what down deir is he’s back up that ladder again and I think he can fight top five six’s he’s he’s back at it um

And he can only improve from there what people seem to forget all the other top guys are in the phas Daniel de is 26 he’s got a bag of Time Left Right heavyweights mature round about age 30 so he’s four years away from that and

All he’s got to do is just keep on working and St on that grind and he’s another young man that’s he’s up there he’s up there for the next Generation he’s got the for the Next Generation he’s up there well but can you can you explain to me did you watch AIC cabayo

Against mmov I mean you were in Sai last time out with mmov just explain to me that victory for cabel tell you this yeah cabel is fantastic I saw his fight a few years back with DK czora I didn’t for the European I didn’t rate him I

Rubbish if D if because Don Charles couldn’t fly out for that fight and he had somebody else in his corner I thought Don there they would have knocked this guy out right but magov yeah I saw him fight last time out and I R him even though I didn’t have nothing

In front of him but I rated him I rated him for loads of other reason political reasons as right um I rated that guy but the way he got chopped down man oh man trust me great yeah um um Cab’s a problem I’m letting you know now he’s a

Problem you know why he’s a problem because he actually educated thinking fighter and what what I no just going on the Daniel de and cabel fight I not a lot of head weights don’t really go to the body as much as maybe they should I mean the lightweights do but heavyweights like

The big head Knockouts the big concussive shots Daniel de invested in the body got um Miller out there cab ya invested on M mud’s body from the get go even if it was a straight right hand it wasn’t a straight round right hand on the chin it was a straight right hand on

The gut investing in the body just keep on investing and I think that was the tailing I think that was the game plan going in and listen he he executed perfectly well well it was and not only that but when you see guys doing that they got good teachers around them

That’s all it is um he’s got really really good punch dexterity educate his shots and I like also like he go hooked to the body hooked to the head right and he go straight right hand to the body then he’ll back off clever guy I also like

His ring dhip because he uses the ring really smart um he moves around he creates little pockets as soon as he in that pocket that’s when he starts firing he’s a clever guy man I’m telling you he’s a clever guy he um he surprised me because I thought magnor was gonna

Destroy him talk to me about H Bevo and opay man op D well everyone thinking he’s going to be a future pound for pound great he’s going to be spawn Tyson Fury what a win for him against eloro and then Demitri bille against Lyndon Offa I mean fair play to Lyndon I don’t

Think many people gave him that much of a chance but he hung in there he did well um I like Lind off for a lot I’m happy that him and Pat Barett and rest of Team um was a black flash promotion they got that to be on that big massive stage and

I know they got Financial rewarded well but I know ly ala’s kicking himself today because I think ly ala was more happy at the fact that listen um I’m going to go the distance with the guy that beat Canelo I don’t think Lyndon ARA come around round four

Or five really thought that he was going to win the fight he boxed to me like a man that was going to survive and I’m not knocking Lyndon because I ain’t been in there with Biv right but I’m telling you there was a point where he went

Downstairs to the body and he hurt bivel and I’m believing you that he had a beaten of bivel if he believed in himself it was the right hook to the body I think I don’t I don’t know if that was a little bit maybe a smoking M

From bivel because bivel just went back a little I saw I know I think that was round five or something bro listen to me that hurt I’m telling you that hurt him he went back that hurt him that hurt him now maybe bivel kind of underestimated um um Lyndon ala but what

I am saying is this Joshua B be kicking himself that he didn’t take that fight I’m telling you that now Joshua B is kicking himself right now to say ra I should have taken that fight and that’s that because we all know what an done to Lyon ala even

Though and remember this this fight was kind of rushed as well for Lyndon and I’m going to say the next thing when I saw Lyndon at the press conference they had over in at Wembley Lyon off was limping like he was injured right and that was only what five weeks

Ago right like was he was limping he was limping at the hotel believe or not I saw him limping a couple times at the hotel hotel as well prior to the fight yeah yeah yeah right exactly so he went I’m telling you he went into that fight

Injured right so maybe his mindset was like the moral Victory is like ain’t gonna get knocked out one go points but he shouldn’t he should have tried to take but it’s easier said than done I’m not in there and I have a box to the level that Lyndon arer boxed at

So I give him credit for getting there and it’s a dream to Che your Challenger for a world title but I want to tell you this now that o Paya all of the cruiserweights leave that brother alone the leave him alone right but let me tell you this now let me tell

You this the only one of the cruiserweights that could rock with him yeah is Richard RPO and I’m gonna tell you why because OB doesn’t mind taking a shot to get in there and he doesn’t fight from a high tight guard and I’m telling you now if Richard believes in himself cuz

Sometimes Richard box like ain’t going to Bel in himself right if Richard believes himself if Richard claps he’s gonna D his dance he can knock him out he’s the only one out of all of the cruiserweights that can fight this you because Chris B Smith no you can’t

Fight and and I’m I’m not knocking Chris B Smith done fantastically well end of the day record BS are going to show that you actually became a world champion but you take too many shots and that’s that you take too many shots and I gonna be real with you that

I actually fear for Chris bam Smith simply because he takes too many shots and I know like you want to get to my age and still have your faculties right and if you carry on fighting like that you ain’t gonna have your facy seriously it’s not good you what I mean he needs

To tighten up a little and just being real and but I don’t care what people want to see I don’t care I’m telling you Chris B Smith you Chris B Smith couldn’t fight op op sorry he couldn’t fight him the only guy who has a remote chance of standing with his

Brother is is Richard RPO because Richard R got some nuts punching power right and I see the work that that Angel Fernandez is trying to do with him now and even though he never had much in his way last time out but he’s he’s he’s boxing smarter

Now you can’t you cannot fight with this guy you I mean you can’t you I mean I’m just being real you can’t he’s he’s he’s he’s an acious puncher he’s horrible he’s spiteful as well and you can see from from the Chang room when he’s in the change room he’s an intensive human

Being yeah me I’ve done a couple interviews he’s a very very intensive guy who wants to damage you that’s what he wants to do but he doesn’t mind taking a shot to give a shot he can do that with any other Cruiserweight out there but you can’t really do that rich

Rapo because I’m telling you Richie rapo has got nuts punching power and if he believes himself that’s the only guy everyone else forget about and when we talking about Zoro I’m happy for Zoro if you know his story and everything else and his daughter he’s just got paid a bag of

Money right and but thank God that there was a bottom rope in professional boxing because the way he went back if that rope wasn’t there that could have been something serious of a casualty but we also got to take it into to to to the realness if you you’re not the best in

The country you’re not the best in Great Britain and you’re going up against somebody who’s the best in the world not the best in the world because he holds the alphabet um title no he’s the best in the world because he actually is the

Best in the world so it’s a big you mean it’s a big it’s a massive golf a massive jump but you know what we shall see you mean we shall see no doubt listen I’ll remember this interview and I’ll clip this out if them them two ever do fight

And we get a good fight I’ll clip this out and no doubt we’ll see if Mr Spencer Fon is is is correct but listen not many times Spen I’ll give you that brother but listen one final one before let you go enjoy the rest of of your evening now

Obviously Anthony Joshua did his part of the deal and win his fight and you me you said there that the Wilder fight is gone the Wilder with that performance has robbed robbed of us of that fight so Anthony Joshua for you next you would go down that ibf route and go for hergovich

If I was Joshua yes um yeah but like I would say like the the real real big money fight would be even though everyone’s talking about Saudi I think what’s happening in Saudi Arabia is excellent I think is excellent that um loads of professional Fighters now are taking their shahada that means

That they they’re uh they they’re they’re committed to Islam I think that’s a lovely thing as well right um I would say to any Joshua him and zil Zang in China would be massive for a vacant version of the world title right because what he’s WBO he’s wo interim champion at this present

Moment so that would be a big fight um but there’s hergovich there for Andy Joshua but you know what the major thing that we still want to see Ty secury versus versus uh versus Andy Joshua and what a backdrop story like him being trained by the old trainer of Tyson Fury

And how big that fight would be that would be a massive massive fight massive fight but you know what February 17th tyon got get past usyk right and in professional boxing nothing’s a given even though I believe that t will win but nothing is a given definitely Spence

You’re correct on that one well listen we’ve only got four minutes left of this Zoom call and I listen I love speaking to you as always but you got anything you’d like to add quickly yeah like to um save one life raising a lot of money

For the the Gaza people on the Gaza Strip and and people in the Palestine and myself at am Khan last week we raised £3 374,000 so massive big up to Legal blows the lawyer that put that all together for me and also to platinum promotions to mention those people listen as always

I appreciate your time as always brother and I can speak to you a lot longer than the zoom inter you would allow me anyways but what you doing I hope you’re I hope you’re celebrating and doing everything massive and nice I’m I’m I’m doing everything the right way yeah please

Fingers crossed for you and a massive massive big up to the full family group because I’m I’m looking forward to the end of their seasonal celebration so I’m going out there so I can look Swanky and eat a lot of food so thank you very much

To the fols family for that for that invitation thank you listen I’m going down to K I’m down at the Lake District for my new year with my family so I’ll enjoy myself down there but Spencer you are always down at the Lake District you must have shares in it every time I

Speak to you down there you would love to you would think I would have a house down there by now but I don’t Spence I don’t maybe one day I’ll buy something down there but until then don’t lie don’t lie you’re getting paid man see as soon as you’re getting rid of

Everyone at at I F you’re getting all the money I know them tricks you know me Spen i’ got to keep got to keep ready for it you know you know the score big man spener I will catch you in 2024 but when it comes have a great New Year and

Like I said I’ll catch you in 2024 brother peace and love you always my man always speak to your soon Spence I’m [Applause] fine