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Jim got a question for you no way yeah yeah something percolating percolating since last night okay yeah um I don’t know if you saw joggen klopp’s postmatch interview ygen no a a a a uh a game at which Liverpool had won 5-1 against West Ham is that correct great victory yeah

51 yeah but he just said not happy and fans are a bit Yeah paraphrasing AR you not not word for word is it which went proper BR fans Rich um I think and and and and and I guess my question is does he have a point do the fans have a responsibility

A couple of questions here do the fans have a responsibility to uphold the famous atmosphere of of anfield right or do they need to wait to be entertained or or or um or ignited or is it difficult after the damp squid what which was the biggest game of their

Season last week to get up for that West Ham game cuz they were yeah I guess that’s where I want three options yeah that’s what I want to delve into I I’ve got to be honest I I heard I heard his words and uh you know useful for debate I’m happy to get into the weeds of it I got to be honest I felt I Got A tingle down there after that I I would love to hear that in in the exact context of which it’s meant I

Listen to him talking about a enormous game at home against a title rival where deep down you two don’t know who’s better right now like that’s another question for us to to take on today like who is better than Liverpool or Arsenal but so with that game on the

Horizon and he’s up for that clearly he wants it and he wants to he wants to challenge the fans to be up for it because he knows it can make a difference so it’s not for me I thought it I loved it I absolutely loved it I

Think it’s class I think you love it go on because he knows exactly what he’s doing I’m fine with that if I was a Liverpool fan I’d be like yeah yeah I I’ll be absolutely gasping for the start of that game because you got the what he’s saying is you have the opportunity

To make a difference and that’s like fans being actually uh you know uh facilitated and being able to make a difference that’s amazing so it’s nonsense if anyone wants to has anyone critiqued that people have critiqued that I just having a gleeful um hop around because it get the opportunity to dig out

Liverpool fans as is football fandom right if you’re having if you having a sensible conversation about it klopp has played played an absolute Blinder stunning right he has yeah he has um and it it’s Testament to show the faith he has and the and the knowledge the fact

That he has that he knows he’s the club he’s the institution but Liverpool are massive but right now they are kops Liverpool right and it goes back to kind of what I was seeing last week is you need that inst institutional character to lead your Club yeah Club is that for

Liverpool he can say anything absolutely anything within the Realms of decency to and and the Liverpool fans will will say all right we trust you we understand they won’t take that as an affront but it does give a they do now have to deal with the fact that there is

Going to be a a fall out and um cuz there is a conversation to be had about whether or not the anfield atmosphere is as legendary as as the vi Sports and everyone whatever you believe I’m not saying it isn’t I don’t know but sometimes it’s flat like any big Club

Yeah well so because Gary Neville said that a lot he kept saying that didn’t he in the Man United game kept talking about the atmosphere kept saying it’s flat obviously I wasn’t there so I presume he’s correct in what he’s saying and I think what what seems to happen

With Gary Neville’s commentary this year or maybe I’ve just noticed it or maybe he’s always done it is he he’ll find his thing and he kind of keeps going back there noticed it a few times this year and I can’t imagine how difficult it is

To do c com so you know whatever I really yeah no it is really difficult so I’m not digging him out and often you’ll know Jim you forget that you’ve used words you Simon Jordan does it Simon someone who’s articulate as him will use the word priced into

Thinking 16 times a show really yeah and and I get done for fundamentally what there’s a few few I get done for but um fundamentally I I get done for but you’re just you’re not thinking about how to reach different parts of your vocabulary or things to talk about

Sometimes you have to sit back especially if you’re live and there millions of people watching you have to sit back on what you’re comfortable with what you’ve agreed with yeah it’s really difficult to if that’s what Gary Neville is doing to your point like and it’s

Same for me so I get to do it in quiet right so i i s I sit here and I watch it and then I’m looking at other things and I’m trying to go what’s the story here what’s the story of the of the match

That I can sort put forward in a video quickly afterwards so the pressure’s on but I can just I can look at it and look at it and formulating message car and we’re chatting we’re chatting we’re chatting and we’re going down this road and once I’m once I’m happy with that

Then I I’ll okay right let’s look elsewhere so but he can’t do that in the moment he literally has to talk about it so it’s understandable that he keeps going back to those things but I think the mix of I think there’s an under I’ve seen it

Like and a lot of lot of our people will know when they support a team that goes through leagues you have periods where you’re kind of too good for that league and really really dominant and then there’s times when you’re poor and when you’re when you’re a bit too good often

You kind of just there isn’t that tenacity or bite in in you as a fan because you’re just expecting to win I think that’s that’s the hardest thing for Man City that’s the hardest thing for man city of course like they’re utterly expected to win so the

Atmosphere is not going to be that it’s hard I think it’s really hard so that was the problem no you’re right you’re right definitely I think less the issue I I I think that it was clear apart from the first 10 minutes that this wasn’t going to be as easy for

Liverpool fans to to to to to experience as they they thought it would everybody thought that they were going to steam steam roll United and we had the conversation last week about football doesn’t always go that way but we were all convinced that it would be a you

Know two or three 4 nil Liverpool win right and as it turned out Manchester United were pretty competitive they much better than before they had chances to score yeah right so for all that reasons that’s going to change the that change the sort of dynamic of the atmosphere

Inside the stadium and so when you’re realizing how [ __ ] this is tight and Manchester United might score that enthusiasm is replaced with nervous energy and you don’t sing and scream when you’re nervous about that and and like I said said like you imagine all of the conversations from all of these

Liverpool fans going in giving it to all their Manchester United we’re going to battle you we’re going to cuz that’s correct as well right you got to go early you got to back your team but the whole world thought they were going to back man united and they didn’t and that

Energy I’d imagine in the stadium like I said but return to nervous energy pretty quickly um then to have West Ham next in a league cup which despite what everyone says no one in the top six apart from Spurs not even we don’t take it seriously we should we should but we

Don’t take it no one really takes it seriously the clubs do but as fans you’re not really looking at the League Cup and going I’m desperate to win that they W went into that game against West Ham expecting to win they annihilated them pretty much the entire game West

Ham had a weaken team so it’s difficult to get up for what I didn’t like what klopp said is he said oh maybe it’s the amount of games that you’ve got to go to like if not give your ticket to someone else I I think I heard that just I

Turned the radio on he said talk about giving you games you have to play I think you can hear it two ways so you can go what what he’s really saying is I need you up for it here guys and if you’re not up for it give you a ticket

To someone else this week he’s talking to the proper fans he’s not talking to the tourists that would have got a ticket somehow so I again I think when I’m listening to him I’m imagining if I was a Liverpool season ticket holder well you know Liverpool fan full stop

Who’s really invested in it properly and he’s saying you know even to say you’ve had an average game and you’ve won that game on a wednes on that what day is it what day was it yesterday Wednesday then you can I think if he went to sat down

Quietly to someone and went that was a little bit L lackluster mate we got AR I need you to be up for that if you’re not up for it I need you to tell me because because I’m going to pick someone else that you go hey boss I’m don’t do it to

Me boss I can play if if you remove all like your [ __ ] if you are a lip fan and you’re hurt by that like [ __ ] get over it grow up right because yeah yeah you you’ve just had a manager say to you in that wasn’t good enough that wasn’t

Loud enough that isn’t going to help us and as you said Jim let’s [ __ ] go saying really this is this is how you do your part right and if you can’t do it give it to someone else oh no no but I’ve been I I’ve been going to anfield

For 45 50 years and um you know that’s my seat and you know no one will tell me what to do right I’ve had that season tiet for 50 years and I’m a season and you know you know what I’m sounding very London here maybe I’m talking to some

Other sets of pans but the um you know there’s a sense of resp of of because they pay in they they don’t they owe nothing to the players who earn for Fortune anyway the what he’s saying he’s saying he’s creating and and and and building a foundation instead of damaging this idea

That an is a cauldron he’s creating it again he’s saying you wait and the atmosphere against Arsenal on Saturday will be incred it will be incredible because of this totally he’s played like you say Jim he’s play and there’s there’s some if you if you sort of zoom

Out a little bit there’s also you need energy in every way you can get it when you’re playing the amount of games that they’re playing another thing he’s very keen to Ram home is that Arsenal had a whole week to prep for this game we haven’t so he’s one he’s nervous about

That and two I think there’s something a bit deeper here where one thing that artetta showed an element of vulnerability with so it’s not one to hammer him for but it’s it’s something he has revealed has been the problem he has had at anfield as a player and then

As a manager so a game like this I think there’s an element of Mind Games there from klopp that he smells a bit of blood and he he needs it they need it and I mean that in the best possible way like this is what sports about is can you get

Yourself to a position to be in those big moments in those big games and so for Liverpool and Arsenal klopp knows it and what I love about klopp is that he always attacks every manager has their own personality right but every moment like that he attacks with such like positivity and

Tenacity and I think he sees this as a game of there’s a lot there’s a lot that we don’t know there’s a lot of conversations of can Liverpool do it can Arsenal do it and I think most people overall at the start of the Season were

Saying it’s AR you know it’s Arsenal Man City again Liverpool no I’m not sure about the defense I’m not sure about the defense and yeah but it it’s it’s building blocks right so a game like this and I I mean maybe have a quick look at Liverpool’s fixtures aside from that like after

That you know those other that might carry you through to the next sort of set of games to kind of win those and then you get into January and it’s on right but these games like the psychological Battle of it and getting a victory in those games is is so

Important so he knows that so Burnley away after that um Newcastle me if four four four points clear of Liverpool if Arsenal win at anfield like that’s like then then you’re starting to really have conversations you’re already having conversations about Arsenal obviously unfortunately but do you think because I think the Liverpool the

Liverpool team is I was going to say the Arsenal team is certainly here to stay right in the top top three or something as much as I’m sure that pains you right so what we always see there’s like eras of sort of battles right and arteta and

Klopp have had a little bit haven’t they they those games have been quite spicy like the Jaca thing we were chat about I mean they both knobheads aren’t they so like they’re going to rub each other up the wrong way you think think it’s going to be

It’s not going to be about pep and klopp it’s going to be about klopp and artetta do you think it it I think look it’s whoever is in the title race if it’s a free horse race then there’ll be a needle between them but there generally

Is two that go at each other klopp and Guardiola do you know what it always feels like with them it’s a it’s about ambition and and they’re aware that they’re the best and that they’ve been they’ve been battling each other since for 10 years more than that

15 probably if you include Bayern Munich when he’s at when uh how long’s he been at um yeah 10 years 10 years about 10 years and um so I think for them it’s like a mutual old competitons going at each other constantly yeah but I think all but

Arteta’s behavior on the on a touch line is comparable to kops whereas arteta’s CL I’m klopp might imagine you’re here you know be respectful but he doesn’t have the ability to be respectful he’s not a respectful human being so he he’s he’s one who is just dominated by his

Ambition for um for his football club and you know there’s nothing wrong with that but it will rile up and contribute to the atmosphere if there is a flas point moment like like like that one that we talked about on the ripple effect last week you know where where

Where um Jaa was it Z yeah Jaa go goes into someone still not having it still not having the Jaa moment but yeah I get what you’re saying no well we listen to you know there was a conversation about it listen to the ri but the uh the sorry

Um those flash flash moments and there will be some because it’ll be highly competitive all of that all of the emotion all of the relationships or that thereof between the two managers and the way they choose to deal with their frustrations will all lend into what

Should be one of the best games we see this year Saturday by the way Jim can I just say it for sport for anyone likes sport not just Football Saturday is incredible yeah qpl Southampton do you want to talk about that now then that absolutely absolutely that’s going to be

Amazing but there’s a if people are living under Rock there is there is probably the best boxing card that there has ever been certainly in the last three decades I must have been living under a rock because I don’t really so why why is this then who’s it’s none of

The big boys is it yeah Joshua’s fighting Wilder’s fighting all on the same card not each other though are they nobody they’ve signed to fight in March so they’re on the same card they’re fighting two people that could both could both of them could potentially lose Joshua’s in a tricky fight and then

They’ll fight again in um in March can his opponent scrap can he go um you know oh he can yeah I mean he loves yeah he loves he’ll get involved yeah he’ll throw he’s a pous he’s less I wouldn’t pug I wouldn’t he’s uh he’s more of a street fighter than a

Pugilist I say he’s a lovely pugilist is uh I do miss Johnny Bourne I do miss um can I no but just quickly and it does tie into football the reason why this is happening essentially there’s so much money being thrown at boxing by Saudi Arabia that what’s happening at football

Is po into insignificance compared to how they’re taking over boxing really they’ve managed to get in yeah in England they’ve got but but no one’s complaining about it like boxing fans have less fewer Scruples than Liverpool than well Liverpool fans but also football fans but there aren’t there’s

Not really any boxing fans going I don’t think this is good for us sport everyone’s going this is amazing right right price fighting isn’t it in its Essence right it’s about the money it’s a money first approach I’m 100% Jam you now did boxing is is is about generating money for

Boxers for promoters for bookies that’s what it is about prize fighting indeed if you want to see the purest formula sport you watch amateur boxing but no one does right unless you’re really really into it um yeah it’s not about knocking someone out is it just go

[ __ ] knock him out don’t hear that am about that’s that’s the that’s the boxing equivalent of like those annoying shouts that you hear at the football where where it’s like it’s if it’s a goal kick and he’s hit it long and then they’ve headed it and then they’ve

Headed it and then they’ve and then someone’s like yeah get it down Grand get it down M there is nothing I don’t if you’ve ever been to a live knock him out one blow really annoying blow knock him out he’s got his massive gloves on and a [ __ ] helmet it’s hard

Jim it’s like you know when there there’s this weird energy when you’re in a when you’re watching boxing especially if if your your the home favorite has the majority of the crowd and is this this undulating noise and and atten every eye is on the on on the ring and

You see a fighter coming forward and he’s he’s starting to land blows and you hear it it’s sort of like this cacophony of of of [ __ ] masculinity and it’s yeah it’s I you know you shouldn’t love it there’s a lot there’s a lot wrong with boxing you’re essentially paining to watch one

Man render unconscious another man which is weird when you really think about it like what are we doing here but when you you’re there you get swept up in it anyway look it’s it’s brilliant and and I can’t wait to go and see another fight

Right the the the thing is is that what they’ve been able to do in the same way that they’ve been able to manipulate football to some degree with their money is they’ve been able to get the two biggest promoters in Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren to work together and put

Their fighters on the same bill right right this is Queensbury and and match room promotion it’s mainly Queensbury but so you’ve got fighters from both stables in the same building operating in the same area working towards fights with each other and the only difference from between then and

Now is Saudi Arabia and that’s it well and the money that Saudi Arabia provide right exactly that’s what mean the oil the oil money so Sports washing is is well and truly in full swing three cheers for sports no two I mean when it comes to boxing three cheers for it okay

Yeah cuz boxing the thing boxing never it is confused I got yeah all right I thought there was some moral fiber in some of this I thought you could transfer across but not in boxing just football football holds it up as a Bastion of good right it’s is a good

Thing it does good it saves lives it help it perpetuates good positive political ideas and all that stuff whether you believe it or not football holds it s up on a pedestal it does box is like we don’t care this is what we’re doing it’s not it’s legal it’s fine [ __ ]

Off if you don’t like it it’s that kind of energy Jo I’ve started watching the uh Netflix doc uh the golf one I think it’s called full swing or something like that and it it gets to the sort of live golf bit and and the the best bit of

Journalism in terms of a you know a question that just utterly works and cuts through all the rubbish is that they they go they they talk about if Putin was putting on if Putin was going to pay you enough money would you go and play in Russia and he goes That’s and

Paul’s panicking he’s going spec speculation speculation love amazing is the world he’s in he’s going that’s currently speculation I haven’t been offered anything from just to be clear guys I haven’t been off of anything by Putin yet but then the journalist goes what I’m trying to say is is there if the

Money was right are there any moral grounds of which you wouldn’t take the money and yeah doesn’t answer it but he does answer it he goes what he’s what deep down what he’s saying and obviously this is incredibly difficult for everyone in the world and when it comes

To that moment for you that’s a tough thing to sort of turn your back on because money literally is currency and can change the world Ian polter can’t speak and he’s not going to speak he’s going to deal with that awkward moment and then he’s going to go and count his

Money that is that is the world we live absolutely and he will forget that interview he’ll forget even exists I got it I got it the other day Jim right I get it the other day yesterday last night I was driving back from um doesn’t matter where I was going I was driving

Back home right and um I went I went to see no no wish no the amount of times the amount of time the amount of times that live say just going for a Wii no oh can I tell you right I tell can I tell you about

Right might I I need to I need to tell you about something tell me yours tell CU I remember all right right so I was I was I tweeted a picture of us at Spotify yeah um and I had my arm round Rory which I assumed would get some

Kickback um oh Christ yeah that always happen does it and so I just said I I I typed in I went um I just great to be back on the ripple effect with for my boy James OT right that was it picture of everyone some bloke who’d been following

Me for years Soldier soul with a little crying emoji and I’m like like I was sitting there I like really Ram it home with the year crying Emoji you think that was a long you think that took a while to make that decision but how do I

This hasn’t got the punch I really want Stop’s not doing it crying the the the comments since been deleted and I wouldn’t mention it other than the fact that I was sitting there and thinking there is a difference between how I used to talk about football and how I talk about it

Now and perhap perhaps I’ve hardened in my I couldn’t really give a [ __ ] about the the [ __ ] health of the game really anymore whereas before I was like that was all I was all consumed by I think there’s more important things in my life to worry about than than such

Things anyway but that’s not what he was talking about he was I think he was just mentioned it was the fact that I’m willing to sit next to Rory or whatever it might be which I am and it will never be an issue uh but the goes to the point

You was just making about poter or Henderson there is no the journalist can say that because he will never be in that position he can ask be ask that question because he knows he’s never he doesn’t have the whatever reason we won’t be put in a position where he has to answer that

Question as a journalist you have to answer it ask it I guess but for me if it was mine I’d say what are you talking about do you know how much money they’re offered do you know what that can do for my child’s life I don’t give a [ __ ]

About your Pious question when I go home I see my kids I see the world that I’ve created for them I can see how happy as I could happiness can potentially bring to them that they can bring to their kids that’s how big this this money is

So you can stick your question up your ass mate that’s what I would be saying yeah it’s difficult I care more about them than your question and that’s that’s fundamentally what it is I will do what I think is right through my career to support my family and that’s

It I get it and I think that’s what that’s what the you know that’s one of the conv we didn’t actually talk about Jordan Henson in the top 10 moments pod that we did um but that was I think that was that was the Baseline of it really

Was that he was I think it was just the sort of it was the Gap in between of well we know why this has happened and you’re you know you don’t feel comfortable really saying it so you’re going to make something else up and then everyone could see it so that then

Becomes a story obviously right yeah yeah what’s that got to do with people coming up to you and saying no nothing that just pops into my head it was lovely I was just going having a piss walk be didn’t even hear see the bloke just Nosh yeah all right well then

All of them B it though not one one blowob yeah the so yeah one thing I came upstairs once so toilets were downstairs guys anyone wasn’t at the live show for everyone was at the live show thank you so special amazing to chat to you all

Properly as well and uh we had a good time I think I think we’re getting there in terms of the show itself uh I think we had a good time we’ll talk about that in a sec but yeah I the toilets were down the stairs so earlier in the I came

Up the stairs and someone sort of like looked at me I can’t remember who but basically he said he said is it weird going down there I went yeah I’m on like high alert all the time because I’m sort of going you know am I going to get

Offered out for a blowy like or like you know I want to get my I want to make sure I get my Wii etiquette right you know all this stuff later on in the night I’ve had look I’ve had a few Guinness all right had a few Guinness

We’ve I’ve hoovered down a burger it’s been a long day okay we’ve it’s been non-stop hasn’t it you have a burger did you two burgers you had two burgers no we had a burger didn’t we before show I thought you had another I thought you had another Burger Burg no JM me two

Burgers no JM me two bur no and anyway and I thought Jo I could do with a I just needed to have a number two all right you had a turnout I needed a two need number two all right I need number two and I thought and then there’s a moment here

Where I’ve got there were times I felt like I needed a number two as well but I didn’t anal we all do a do do I always say that not when there’s 200 people in the pub just for you well I know but it was late and I was thinking I might be

All right here anyway you open the door and I’m thinking it’s the moment it’s like who’s going to see because that’s that was that’s the weird thing obviously we’ve shut down this Pub there’s no one in this Pub apart from people that have bought tickets which I

Couldn’t get my head around because I was like going past people in the pub and I was going I was sort of going oh excuse me thinking they don’t know who you are but obviously they do but that’s just a anyway that’s surreal thing that is life

Now but it’s wonderful anyway so I got open the door and and you know who you are cuz we were joking about it afterwards and I’ll come back and I just went and he’s looked at me and he’s gone back back to his and I’ve gone I’ve

Gone I’ve gone what yeah I go have I’ve gone the offensive I go what yeah yeah I have yeah I’ve had a [ __ ] all right I’ve had a [ __ ] and he’s gone he’s G he’s like no I know I I was just going to

Leave I was going to leave it mate I was going to leave it said his whole thing it was so funny it was class and the whole live show was really really good we did the is there anything Thomas Martin can’t do that the Ang so we had

An Angy off it was a mix between Ang Harry and naked attraction which worked I was pleased with that I wasn’t sure if it was going to work or not but it worked very very well it was I it was struggling at the beginning with the

Feet I thought I kep what did I say and what did I say I said stick with me we’re going to be just fine just need to get to the need to get to the second round and the second round was great um but yes so for those of you that

Weren’t there you missed out on that so we will do another live show Absolutely got massive massive yeah ideas in my little small brain that I want to turn into a reality next year and so stay close stay a part of it and I think what’s great is that everyone’s kind of

You can see everyone becoming friends again which is great um so that was great brilliant atmosphere in there wasn’t it yeah once again people people disappoint we got people disappointed with the diversity that’s not on us that’s not on us we get we get a lot of

That don’t we look you’re the you’re the audience you have a word with yourselves what we supposed to do about that sort your race out sort your race out you know there was there were there were there were there were I mean the ratio was quite small but there was there was

People of different ethn ethnic there just the majority of our the content you produce is for young white men clearly I fortunately what I love though I love that I’ve I’ve cultivated an audience that is that that are are white and unhappy with the audience they’re they oh oh I’m not sure

I’ they’re so aware I’m not sure I feel comfortable in this establishment there’s too many white people you’re white too let’s can we not just all be people you’re like PE you’re like you’re like someone who’s stuck in a traffic jam complaining about traffic and thinking they’re not a part of the

Problem you’re in the traffic J that’s a great analogy very good said it was a sea of 20s white BLS it was of which you’re one yeah of which you’re one Ollie can I can I just a couple of things in the live show we did we did

Get to the conclusion of of a quite a heavy debate that’s been raging on over the last few weeks of the butter and the you explain that well we yeah we’ve been talking about this on the mailbag for a bit if you want to become a patron and

Listen to these sort of conversations and get in on this in joke um then you can become a patreon uh the link is in the bio below but you we we we we had ongoing discussion about whether or not if you’re putting mayonnaise in a sandwich do you need butter as well and

I’m I’m of the persuasion that every sandwich you start with butter in the bread buttery B say yes buttery Bas Jim Jim’s Jim’s saying if you if you have mayonnaise in it then you don’t need butter right so we had this debate out in the pub and it ended by the pub more

Or less holy shouting screaming b b which was one of the most surreal and funny experiences in my life yeah cuz we so we established the argument I was like so what is the argument we got okay so I’m saying this you’re saying that right hands up who’s with me and it was

Sort of quiet and then yeah hands up who’s who’s with flab and every was like it was medieval butter it was it was great it the other thing was me there was two bits for me as well was that when we we talk about Nosh and instead of using Nosh I use the

Word blow and everyone’s like who oh really that’s too that’s too Realo close did you not you maybe reading one of your questions at that time but the uh he was there was going whoa that’s that’s too real that was funny and the other one was when I was

Making a joke was I’m pretty sure was going to land absolutely fine was saying that losses out if you’re not in the Premier League if your Club loses it shouldn’t really hurt that much yeah l a loss doesn’t count unless it’s shown on Sky Sports obviously I was

Joking there’s a there’s a couple of really confused people going what what a Stoke fan and a Bristol City fan who are not happy with you at all that was hilarious well a Stoke fan should realize that because he was in the Premier League recently exactly I want

To show something so we did the Angley so we did the Angley off and will who so we’re gonna get we’ll get all the Angley stuff in just a second but just to show you this from the live show and again another reason to get involved in the

Live shows future we want to make them bigger and better more special as well so get involved um can I make this bigger I can right so this was right so we had round one right which was everyone did their celebration Angy celebration and it was just the feat we

And the whole crowd had this to decide who should be voted out based on the quality of their feet within the you show something yeah I am sorry I’m sharing the first one hang on I’ll show here you go because yeah you need to see the other ones as well

Right got it yes good so this was after the first round so then we’re going along and they people had to boo to vote for who they wanted to go out now the will Hester who is the man who took his shirt off threw at his girlfriend and

Then did his anley which will show and relive because it’s in spoiler alert it’s in the top three Angy of the Angy celebrations which we’re going to reflect on um yeah he he gets voted out his feet his feet weren’t up to much um but we didn’t know that they we were

Getting it was a resounding Boo as well wasn’t it everyone was like out well they forgot they forgot that there was a screen up I think yeah well that was the kind of Point wasn’t it to give that anonymity and that that that opportun move your feet yeah um so here it was

And this is the moment where where will missed out but we obviously we don’t know it’s will we we’re expecting will to go deep in this because of of what we’ve seen before here you go he’s already taken his TB off if you remember we always the one who did it in

Front of his misses on Twitter we’re GNA like as Jim just said and that is why he came out of his top off because it’s exactly when he came out I was like you [ __ ] Legend yeah that was exactly the right thing to do great teeth will had

As well by the way congratulations on those teeth will uh right let’s he’s a legend he’s let’s do some bits for the podcast from the running order last week and yeah so we’re going to get to Angel so Jim big laugh award zoom in here we go um from last

Week’s podcast for a couple of thoughts so Flav this is diabetes Flav declaring his support for any [ __ ] rule that supports his Club while ominously inward burping is pure Cinema it’s like his conscience is trying to get out and he has to swallow it back [Laughter] down that’s well funny that’s funny so

That made me laugh that’s a nom that’s it last week Mario said the first thing i’ do if I was drinking piss my podcast is state that I’m definitely not drinking piss of course last week I wasn’t feeling great and I was on the LM it was

Lmip it’s weird you had it in a in a like a ag1 container though yeah yeah that’s true that’s true the issue but that did make me giggle um and Big Burrito 2373 On Any Given night there are two men that look like poch and

Postao laughing in a bar in a med in the Mediterranean or Latin American countries that made me laugh if you just so everyone if you just close your eyes for a second yeah and just and get them out of their tracksuits or whatever it is but just imagine poch and and poo

Certainly got like a a gold necklace which you can see and you can kind of see a bit of chest hair there and they’re just somewhere hot but it’s obviously it’s the sun’s gone down and there s about five drinks in little bit sweaty just just enjoying each other’s

Company and having a giggle I can see it I can see it and I’ve bet it’s absolutely everywhere yeah amazing so that was it uh I had a live show recap butter we’ve done that that’s good epic reframe Jonathan Smith so he’s he’s warned us early doors he’s got hot take

For SL trigger warning this is epic reframe after epic reframe here speaking with myal about the plight of man united he said back ten hog and get rid of the players as they are the problem I clapped back saying ten hog is spineless the first test he had was when he got

Slapped by brenford and instead of T sticking to his principles he bottled it and changed style to avoid losing games of football shows his weak mind and that is uh when he lost the belief of the players and that’s why they’re underperforming then asked his mate then

Asked so who would you have instead which is always the question with man united you go what cuz I think there’s been a thing a lot of managers getting away with it because you go well if you sack in then when’s when’s it going to stop and that manager got very lucky

Because if you previous you would have been gone because there would have been other options so he asked who would you have instead and Jonathan said with my chest out in my opinion the best fit for man united is Shawn Dash he plays arguably the closest football to Prime Fergie and would

Demand respect as no one would want to mess with him do you think Shawn Das could get get a better tune out of this man united Squad than Eric tenh hark H be able to what at what cost what do you mean um well firstly that most of what that guy said is

Nonsense like like it’s not a hot take it’s [ __ ] but after losing to brenford didn’t they then go on to win League Cup and finish third in the league what he’s manag play up playing football apparently I mean to to the to the detriment of a lack of philosophy which

I know you’ve been banging on a lot about this year now I know but he didn’t lose the dressing room if you then finish third and and uh win a League Cup and then he’s saying sha D Rich the football be is not anywhere near what prime Fergy’s football was

Like Prime Fergy’s football as per [ __ ] Stam and Roy Keane and Gary Nev who played in it was a team that was completely on the front foot that left two center backs back all the time they won the treble that year so that’s Prime Fergie isn’t it when Sean D ever done

That I don’t know well I think it’s interesting how what feels like not Progressive football with Shawn D which I think is Harsh because they they actually played some good stuff is if you if you pick it up and put it in 1999 maybe does look like fast flowing

Really fun exciting attractive football you think you don’t know I hope so I’d love to see sha D at man united it would be amazing it would be amazing you’d have imagine you’d have to like you’d have to listen to a lot of Shawn D’s

Voice I’m that that’s a lot in it it’s a lot though I’d rather listen to I’d rather listen to sha Das than it’s a lot almost any Top Flight manager fair enough uh oh this is great this is just a this is great uh Pros is that the word I’ve

Read this and I thought that’s really good and and this is this is to wind you up Flav but I think you I know you and you know I know you and I know that you know that I know you and I just I think you’ll rate this I think you’ll have

Like in a in a weird way you’ll have huge respect for this sentence here we go this is directed at you this is from D nuts nuts weird game weird name sorry uh your refusal to see arteta as anything but a petulent bad loser it’s kind of weird you you will eventually

Have to concede that what he’s doing is a good thing but I guess you just aren’t there yet superb I mean I’ve said multiple times on this it’s strong it’s powerful it’s demeaning it’s patronizing your refusal to see arteta as anything but a petulant bad loser it’s kind of weird you will

Eventually have to you will eventually have to concede that what he’s doing is a good thing but I I just guess you are there yeah I wash my hands of you Flav there’s nothing I can do I think it’s a really good sentence I mean yeah would

Suggest that is really indifferent to my opinion yet leave a comment but a good thing to do right so there’s no bite there it’s a good thing it’s a good thing to pretend to be indifferent but leave a comment yeah the uh the can I as

A robattle um I would merely say that I’ve said on many occasions that artet has done an incredible job at Arsenal and but you you have to take into consideration every Advantage he’s been given it’s fine that’s what you want your manager to have the advantage you

Want him to have an almost seemingly endless abundance of money um to get everything he ask for all the time and um and then and on the back of that you expect a club the size of Arsenal to be challenging for the league and he’s he’s on par really for where he

Should be and what manager gets five years what manager lose his first three games and just gets given the the time that he has he’s in a position and he’s like I said he’s been given the advantage that almost no manager would be afforded other than um Guardiola or klopp or something

Like that so that that’s what I would say or my my comment about him is he’s just he’s a man baby can’t handle defeat B my comment that’s a fair that’s a fair thing to say it’s nothing to do with his ability as a manager if is it is his um

Childish reaction to something that doesn’t go his way I you know I’d like I’m intrigued by this weekend because yeah I’ve been I’ve been disappointed with ar a little bit this year and I I liked him and I I backed him I have backed him he’s on strike one

And a half for me so if he if he sort of if he disappoints me this weekend that’d be a real shame don’t want be right crushed about our our thoughts on him oh yeah sure yeah has it come out yet guys has it come out yet it’s 8:00 on a

Friday does it come out we got to do training Mel I don’t got to know what Flav’s saying about me yeah what I don’t understand is like why why are you defending it why the fans this is a good this is a good something good to talk about we don’t

Have to do it now but why the fans feel like they have to blindly defend their players the behavior of their player and their and their um and their manager and and this is and I’ll just give you a case in point and I take it to Tottenham

Actually not Arsenal Spurs fans there there was a tweet the other day that said that they looked at all of the cautions that have been given to all of the top center backs in the league and Romero’s um caution rate is something like I can’t remember the metrics but it

Was at 43% right and CBO was on 16% van dijk 23% the the clear outlier here was Romero and the the the way the guy framed it was that there was some sort of bias towards Romero in or an agenda against Romero no that’s not what’s

Happening he’s a maniac he goes into the traffic he leaves his studs up he goes through Players he does the type of what the way that he tackles invites cards it’s on Romero just because he plays for Tottenham doesn’t mean you have to create some weird [ __ ] tweet that has

No basis defending him merely because he’s a Spurs player just go yeah he’s a dirty [ __ ] I love it that’s what I say conspiracy I think I think it’s something against him of course he’s at that he will let you down he will let you down if say’s there for the next

Five years he will let you down eight times in big games but he will also be he could be awesome in 12 20 30 whatever right at some point you go enough I’m fed up with him go away no no there has never been there

Has never been a player as good as him that gets bombed out of a football club because of his discipline in terms of his cards that he amasses that doesn’t happen the quality of the footballer always over rides whether or not he picks up cards if you pick up cards you

Get sent off especially in modern game when there’s V you’re going to get you’re gonna become a liability because your team’s gonna end up playing I do agree with what you’re saying it can be a liability I’m just saying it doesn’t happen in football where someone as good as him is sold

Because he picks up yellow cards okay uh last week we were talking about uh sort of words or sort of puns within the name of a football team uh I can’t remember what the what it was last week but there was um no it was it it was it was names that rival

Fans used to describe the team than the actual name yeah and we were having we were having yeah that’s it we were having like a deep conversation about something but someone had arrived late to the live and so just wrote Preston rear end and so the top comment last

Week was him going I’ve just got to Preston rear end he just C up which is funny but a lot of people put some new ones in here so here’s a few might might tickle you Lawrence Penman and I’d like more of this I’d like it for players I

Like it for anything can we create some new names here I feel like this is there’s got something as a derby fan snotting and Florist has to be the personal favorite of mine for rival name calling florist is a florist negative snotting and Florist just a bit I guess yeah Jack’s G

With the mold Trafford good isn’t it that is good I dick Town IP dick Town yeah that was good m [ __ ] that how good was that I IP dick town but the the um the farmer Derby or the six finger Derby or whatever you want to call it the trctor

Derby six finger Derby I live in the country with the big ear boys yeah say I can say what like the um yeah but they that that is that’s got to be up there as because hi switch are good there was so much sort of there was so much like

There was a bite to it yeah and that that that Derby doesn’t get recognized for what it is the amount of hatred involved in it yeah they really don’t like each other that’s what I think that’s why I think Arsenal Liverpool is going to be amazing for for a long time

Because what makes it better is when you I don’t know which team’s better yeah so and that just makes it class yeah Arsenal are better I think Arsenal are marginally as the league would suggest but just it just feels like they are further down the line than Liverpool at this

Stage but if you’re picking one to win the league now Jim if you just had to pick it who who you picking you you I get I get what you’re saying totally at the start of season I said Liverpool would finish above them above Arsenal yeah I think

Then and so I for that reason i’ would kind of stick with Liverpool but I totally get it and I could I think the sensible answer is Arsenal yeah I think so too much as I hate it do you think man city had done Jim quickly just quickly are they are

They no no I think we’re just they they do it again do you know what I think it is I wonder it’s a bit like you know when you’ve got month to do you’ve got a month to do this coursework or whatever it is and you wait till the last week to

Start I think that’s Man City a little bit now I think they kind of need to get themselves doing this not it’s not like a healthy way to to succeed is it I mean it is if you keep winning I guess the br will be back and that will start to put

That the pressure will be applied can Liverpool and Arsenal deal with that pressure because it will B comes in those guys come in and start like popping off DE bruy and harand is scary if they can get them both back um booby mentioned actually that they when they

Won the league I can’t remember which one they were talking about but the he was saying in January everyone was writing the season off and then they won the league and we’re not even in January yet we still got few games you know the thing that people weren’t talking about

Is so de bruyne has been out for ages right and I think if de bruyne’s out between now and the end of the season I would be heavily concerned about Man City winning the league but it’s not just about de bruyne being back it’s about de bruyne staying fit so you

Can say oh got de bruyne back if he breaks down after three games it’s redundant so yeah him it’s not just him coming back it’s a guy who’s been injury-prone that you AR you you haven’t got gundan to rely on to get you out of

Big games or mahrez as well so it’s on De bruyne a little bit to come in and sort it or get them you know ticking a bit so it’s not playing it’s him staying fit and I think that’s that’s where I really wonder now I really wonder if they are actually

Going to go and do it because you know the tenacity is there for for Arsenal and Liverpool for sure um also one final foot thing on foot football did you see livera won again last night did they 4-0 mate he’s killing it I’d love it if I

Really really love it if Bayern Munich didn’t win the league it would be brilliant it’ be yeah it’ be hilarious because then Harry kanane was the Le for you’ve gone to Germany to not win the league so you don’t want to you don’t want him to be happy Harry Kane no no

No not if it not if it’s gently titillates you for a day what do you mean well how would it titillate me in any way well you were saying you’re excited about the fact that him not winning the league and and so this whole move of his entire family

Living in a hotel for a bit to go and win things because you only get one career despite actually rather live in London and be happy with close to his family all that being an absolute you know washed away in in in disappointment as long as that gently titillates you

Because he should have say at Tottenham then you’re fine with it yeah mold Trafford big flange is another one big flange that stick mold mold Trafford big FL big oh big FL yeah that’s [ __ ] yeah cuz there’s better ones already there’s much better ones imposter coo and cholesterol or something those

Are Chester that’s really hard to say I’m not going to try we said we said goodbye this week to Steve Cooper sadly or he’s Palace though he’ll be back at Palace oh did he or as Gollum said Steve blooper is my favorite name for another club and and this made

Me laugh I know it’s me but you know did make me laugh sadly he said uh readv kids Steve Cooper has the permanent look of a man who just walked out of a dark Cinema into bright sunshine just I’ll be that’s not mean it’s fine it’s not as bad as a head

It uh okay John mcin I don’t know if I’m bothered about this or not John mcin will get or should get a statue outside Villa Park he’s been there from the beginning of our trajectory and if you want to do the numbers he smashes all those too every

Villa fan loves him now used to hate him didn’t they Catherine she not here and also yeah she was here she’s at a meeting or something but she also mate they I just like Villa fans and all power to them like all power to them because I was exactly the same when we

Were in a similar situation with P but it does it’s like they’re they’re giddy at the moment and long way it would continue but it’s a because it’s a great place to be but they’re coming out with some Madness that’s what I’m saying what’s the what’s the

Madness what in I mean there were there I’d imagine there were players that have done stuff at Villa that that’s worthy of a statue more than John mcin playing decent football for eight months what what could happen here is that and I’m not saying I’m not

Saying it will do but it could happen Okay 18 months under John Gregory back in 2000 or 99 I think it was Villa were like top in December Villa fans tell me if I’m wrong about this right and they they they fell heavily right the person saying that John mcin deserves a statue

Essentially what you’re saying is Dion Dublin deserves a statue because I think Dion Dublin or Stan clymore deser I think he was playing that year Paul meren you’re saying Paul meren deserves a statue at Villa Park slow down but could they G Gareth Barry would you been playing then probably yeah I think

He probably was uh Bey I just thought this is interesting on the question of whether this was last week we’re talking about Chelsea would they be better off keeping the academy Lads instead of spending wildly here’s a list of current players that you might have heard of that cbum can

Claim so in goal bulker no idea right back I should know that I should know uh livero lamp te Reese James dojn Sterling Center back gay tamori Chala coell Christensen meam Clark Suter come on Humphries Ian Matson Ola Nathan a Declan rice ampadu lofta Chic Gilmore Hall Gallagher Swift Baker

Musala was it Chelsea was he didn’t know that I seem to remember that I think some of these players were bought though rather than Academy players were gone Mason Mount Hudson adoy Alis RX saki saki eoi Boger beron trayor oh yeah Abraham broer Anda salanki Brewster it’s an okay Squad isn’t it

Could have been so different makes good point Didn’t you not all bangers but solid mid-table and you’d have a billion pound in your bank to know build a stadium or something indeed indeed um there’s some that is incredible that their their production land is insane yeah it’s mad so just quickly before we

Get into the angely thing and before we will then say goodbye for a couple of weeks probably unless your Patron we’ll try and get the patron going if we can is Christmas there a [ __ ] rain come on uh right couple of uh couple of options there like there has been a the

Clamor for a mailbag mid week the manager this I thought was good ree what up the manager who has received the most he’s got to go shouts but has still hung on until the end of the Year David Moyes I think yeah is the winner of that it’s interesting you say that

There was this um uh there was this uh graph and it it was I’ll send it over to you really interesting it just shows you the fan happiness there’s a survey there’s a h fan happiness depending on um on five or six metrics like atmosphere Stadium uh

Squad transfers and West Ham for winning the trophies they’re they’re diagram or whatever you call it it was like a SP like one in ones where you have little points I can’t remember what it’s called it was Tiny like they just un just F feel they’re so

Much less happier than they should be all of it generally yeah and all of it stems from the fact that David Moyes is still the manager I think and know are they are they sort of handcuffed to him because he’s one of trophy now I think they’re over that I

Think they’re over it they just short memories isn’t it short memories they’re very angry they’re very angry of what he did at anfield you know the other night he just there was like thousands and thousands of West Ham fans and he just didn’t play any anyone worth worthy of

Winning that game okay get your answers in here guys in the chat uh Tom shrimplin ask what’s the the something’s happening here award well think you got to say Villa haven’t you I don’t know I think you can go elsewhere on a broader scale could you say Brighton obviously it’s petered out a

Little bit but they are they’ve become one of the elite teams Brighton like you’re worried about playing Brighton these days so for that to have Ur thing is incredible playing in Europe like they are and they’re in they’re still in Europe they could win you know they

Could go and win the Europa League um B yeah and same for vill could win the conference league and get in the Champions League crazy uh what else we got here JC football most social social media impressions for appointing a manager and the winner is Wayne Rooney although the the B the Birmingham

Fans Luke flip-flopping saw him on the live show oh yeah we well we won this week hang on a minute you despised him a minute ago can’t keep up cannot keep up uh yeah probably Rooney’s a weird can’t trust the man can’t trust the man who flipflops like that do yeah know

It’s difficult how yeah how can you trust s and trust him with my my business uh do what else we got best angely podcast moment okay let’s do this or best epic reframe best epic reframe I’ll give that to Gary O’neal He has made us

Reframe and or IAS one of those two both of them yeah Gary O’Neal we we we we weren’t giving it to him but he’s done well any Rola we thought he was just another foreign manager about to get on the scrap eight look at him now look at him now he’s flying yeah

Okay best Ang Le podcast moment right now’s the time so I would’ like to what’s the best way of doing this let’s go here first so we’d like to send a message out to the man the myth the a National Treasure Angley Harriet Angley on Christmas day you’re going to

See a lot of videos okay and we would like to explain ourselves on our podcast this is our podcast James the FL for now and so it all began with this picture you can see right now Angley and before I get into this Angley don’t be afraid

This is all being said with love this is my co-host Flav Flav you agree with this there is absolutely um we we we adore you we adore you legitimately so this was at an event where Ian Wright was uh being and Emma Hayes were being lorded for their careers and they went around

All the famous people and they went to you Angley they went to you and you did this this stunning piece of work now I was fortunate enough to be in the room that night and I passed on that story and we spoke about in the podcast because the

The move it was stunning it was entertaining it was wonderful and we wanted to see more of it so we put it out there we like oh amazing if like a you know Pro footballer or someone else could do it now Angley you won’t be aware of this this is caught legs and

This has really caught some legs okay and so now we are few days away from Christmas and on Christmas day we’re going to be asking people to do the Ansley but what is the anley well you know Ansley you’ve been doing it for years at very high level but other

People have wanted to get to your level and put themselves out there and we’ve had loads absolutely loads of anleys just to give you a recent one this is one so we are ask people if they were going to the darts this is Taran Taran was at the darts Taran is a

Fan of the podcast and he’s a fan of you Angley and he did the Angley so here is the Angley do it again do it again good that is the an celebration okay but what are the best we’ve had a lot Flav we’ve been very fortunate but what are the best I’ve put

The top three Angley celebrations and I’d like it’s been a complete it’s been a complete celebration of Angley Harriet’s um moves and like like James says this is caught fire in our little podcast that is James and FL for now um I’ve got to say my I

Think there are a few um you’ve got got the the the guy on stage which was incredible in front of 2,000 people okay so I’ve got three I’ve got three that I think are the top three oh go on then you’re G to play them all right go on

Then let’s play them so Angley again just to this has gone far and wide this has gone across the country and if you were willing to do an Angley it would be the Holy Grail that would be it Christmas Day on Christmas day it would

Be over we would we would ask no more of you than just an anley from anley yeah but people were doing it all over the country so this is Jacob is one of my favorites he’s doing the bulletins on the radio to over 100,000 people and this is him doing his angely Harriet

Celebration cooking away expected across nor and North today with temperatures up to 5 degrees that’s the latest I’m Josh Barnes beautiful now and importantly Ang you might not even be aware of this but Ang what you did I saw in the moment was that you you look to make your sauce and

Then you would take a little dip and taste the sauce now people have then gone to put on their own ingredients seasoning whatever they’ve needed so that is an absolute belter people don’t know that but he filmed it obviously and people can’t hear it and this is and

Definitely in the top three as well this is this could be number one for me this could be number one one for so this is Ben Lancaster Angley and uh Ben is playing buddy at the Dominion theater in uh the showing of Elf and this this is him uh

What was he 1 2 3 4 five along and he did the same he he he bought into the idea of the Angley and at the end of his first show his first show there he is get ready here it comes he’s cooking away Angley he’s cooking away loving

Life that’s the influence you have Angley that’s how you’ve changed our lives I know it’s weird Angley but stay with us stay with us Angy because there’s one more and it’s about to get a little bit more weirder but it’s all good fun Ang please keep watching so this is

Will do you want to explain this FL and I I kind of think you should just play it but what what we ask for is for an Le’s in a natural environment yeah in the wild in in the unsuspecting place and if possible to celebrate with an

Anley in front of people that don’t really understand it like you know probably the position you’re in a little bit asy right now so this was Will Will took on the challenge just a bit of fun as well and thank you to the girlfriend as well I don’t think

It’s dumped him yet um but this is Will doing what doing the angely well what what are you doing no no didn’t understand it but we liked it we liked we l it that was our number one it could be our number one I don’t

Know we don’t know we’ll see but so in the chat as we as we make one last play Angley Merry Christmas firstly thank you so much we’ve we’ve been having fun with this for about a month and it came from your your spice for Life your ability to

Not just put your hand up when someone said oh Angel’s in the crowd you stood up and you accounted for and that has spawned this whole thing so thank you regardless Ang if you don’t want to do this absolutely understand but you will see people doing the angely and they’re

Doing it out of love so Merry Christmas Ang Le Merry Christmas to everyone as well who’s got involved and done this over the last uh I don’t know about a month right uh top F there’s still that’s it so Christmas day we’re all GNA

Do it Angley um make sure you do it use the hashtag we we’ll get it out there it’s going to be great what’s your number one angle FL look I I love I love will and and obviously we’ve met will and since this we had to meet him after

Seeing this um but for me 100% it’s Ben Lancaster just it ises just everything magical about that it’s the distance from the camera it’s the fact that it’s in front of 2,000 people it’s the little dance at the end for me it’s Ben Lan claser closely followed by will uh

Special men and I think I just said Jacob barns but I think it’s Josh Barnes because I all the time in my head I’ll be walking around going I’m Josh Barnes I’m always doing his voice so you got a great voice uh I I’ve got to yeah it’s

Got to be B for me as well will heartbroken right now I’m sorry will but that was outrageous stuff um but yeah just another great example of the fun that we were able to have with the podcast so it’s all good stuff um that’s all I’ve got for the Pod yeah Life’s

Good H Merry Christmas everyone um we hope you all have a Wonder wonderful one uh Flav love you very much love you too mate remember Christmas Day hash Le see as many on Twitter as possible retweet them comment them let’s just get it going maybe get it trending fun be fun

Be fun yeah have an amazing Christmas guys uh all the best if you want to become a patron you can do links in the description but if not don’t worry guys it’s all good it’s all love right Tada see y