‘HE’S ONLY F***** HUMAN’ – GARETH A. DAVIES REACTS TO ‘MOODY’ JOSHUA INTERVIEW & McCART ALTERCATION

INTERVIEW BY ANDREW McCART

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I’m [Applause] fine Andrew M IFL TV I’m here in Saudi Arabia and I’m delighted you don’t know how much this means to me right now to be talking to GF a Davis now G it’s been 2 years to the date almost since we no I’m going to start it’s been years put

It out as a story onl listen I we put it after I said finally I’ve got a hold of him but there’s a back story as to why it took two years for me and you to talk now you’ve got to you okay it’s down to

Me I’ll take that when you called me I thought oh [ __ ] does he want to kick off we’re going to get arrested if we fight in Saudi Arabia tell them the back story cuz you’ve got a good way you’ve got a good way with words you can describe a

Situation better than what I can now the reason why it’s been 2 years since we’ve spoke well done an interview we’ve spoke since then we have spoke off camera and cuddled each other we’ve done a lot yeah we’ve done a lot of cuddling but explain

To the people why why this is our first interview in 2 years well foolishly or not um in the Las Vegas Fight week a couple of years back now who was I let me remember who it was it would have been Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 2

Three it was the third fight so busy there always busy in Vegas running around crazy interviews doing William Hill stuff doing talk sports stuff Tim with thepoon was over there you at the time used to do very long interviews with people you do them about half the length now very tired

Little bit grouchy that was you as well as me we do an interview it’s going really well and I’m thinking I need to get away from this guy why does he keep asking me more questions and it was withoon I be Tim Witherspoon to be honest and we got with you were with

Witherspoon as well yeah he came in as well Witherspoon was working with talk SP at the time um did that interview ever go out by the way okay that interview with us has never gone out okay okay maybe you can put it out now

After this so I get to it and I’m going like this in my hand to Andy come on wrap the [ __ ] interview up come on I got to go I’ve got to go and he’s a million miles an hour anyway and he’s got that Vibe about him and he’s eff ofs

And irrepressible and as you’ll have seen with Andy’s interviews he if he’s got a dog he’s like a dog with a bone when he’s got a subject as well so I’m going and and he thinks I’m joking yeah and I’m like no I need to go and I’m

Going Andy stop us [ __ ] interview now like and he’s going you’ve been [ __ ] serious there you talking to me like that don’t you talk to me like that yeah you [ __ ] outside there and I’m like [ __ ] hell Andy no I’m not going outside with you now no [ __ ] outside

You now puts the microphone down he’s over in my face literally like you [ __ ] I’m like whoa and I’m kind of going I this Bob arum came over and separated us Tim with a spoon separated us I’m going to knock your [ __ ] head off he said come on [ __ ] out say no

No well poor old Andy was upset for about 3 days I was sorry straight away and we made up at the at the Afterparty Tyson Fury’s after party we went there we were invited lucky enough to be invited by Tyson Fury and we had know we

Made up which was good yeah it was a it was uh I’ve seen you on the bag I’ve seen you sparring Liam Smith since and I’m like I’ve got the old head kick but I’m not that quick anymore and like the head kick it would i’ have been straight

Into a cab if I could have got the head kick away but I would have had to take a few I’ll tell you that and he wanted to give me a few that day didn’t you well to be honest you made yourself down a little bit innocent there because I was

Sort of like he was telling me do you ever do you know what this means in the industry and I was like I thought you were being GTH cuz G you’re eccentric and that’s why people love you and I was like I really how rude of me though

Genuinely tired competitive I’m a little bit different these days as well I’ve had a few health issues and and but I think I’m a bit more chilled out and I I made the mistake on those fight weeks yes we’re buzzing but I used to be over

Tired and I don’t do that anymore we talked about this early didn’t we but yeah go on so I I was making myself out to be a bit more innocent than I I think so no CU you I thought you were being G you were saying do you know what this

Means in an industry let’s wrap this up and I was like G I’m not sure right I’m not sure I I’m not sure I would have said that something along them lines I’ll probably cuz I don’t think no I know I know I do numbers for IFL numbers

Numbers that’s what we care about really I know but it but no it was more sometimes you but we’re both quite we’re both quite fiery characters competitive fiery characters and I I know I hit a nerve with you and it was the wrong thing to do that day as well

And we feel quite tender towards each other now don’t we weirdly it’s almost like we have had a fight do you know what I mean you know what it’s like when Fighters hate each other they have a fight and then hug it out that’s what

Not had a fight not fit at the moment but got we will never have a fight ever ever have a fight so don’t worry about that it was just all provado on my side because I felt a little bit embarrassed that was all I just felt a little bit

Embarrassed and I thought no way well the good thing for you was I was really embarrassed for about a month afterwards because I said to everyone I’m so sorry I upset Andy because the last thing you want to do when we’re working in that room all the time is upset someone and

Want to avoid them and not be around them because we’re all working together in a small kind of Hall in a way um yeah it’s horrible those moments at the time but as I said I’ve seen you working out since and uh even though you might be

About 40 you can still do it yeah he he can still knock him out on the cobbles I tell you that I think that’s a compliment I won’t definitely I’ll take it well that was us that’s the back story as to why it’s been two years so let’s let’s let’s

Get this ball R yeah let’s wrap this up no you’re not going you’re not going if you’re going nowhere I’ve got you now got a lot yeah cut listen um yeah there’s a reason why we’re here in Saudi Arabia now it’s probably one of them fight cards where where do we start

Because it’s so stacked with Talent it’s so it’s like a mega card so we’ll start at the top let’s just start right at the top Anthony Joshua a Wallen um a lot of people are like saying a Wallen is a dangerous fight for Joshua this is a four-g conclusion I’m guessing you feel

The same way yeah I mean and wallin’s talking a great game he’s saying all the right things he’s he’s used everything that is to his advantage to his Advantage um that Joshua’s scared of losing cuz that’s why they want to rematch clause but that’s a business

Decision at the end of the day uh he’s too big a name not to have a rematch to put the record straight he thinks Joshua’s style has changed he’s right he’s much more technical boxer now slightly more defensive doesn’t throw many combinations anymore but he hasn’t reckoned on Joshua training with uh Ben

Davidson in this Camp Who I Really rate I’m I’m on record is rating Ben Davidson very wise old head on young shoulders he got the game plan right if Joshua listens to the game plan which is to impose himself early he’s got to do it

He should be fine he’s got to be careful he got to get his right hand over the Southpaw he’s got to do it he’s got to get his jab firing as well and I think he’s got to throw combinations and and be dominant and be aggressive against otter Val not recklessly but with

Pressure um because I think if this fight goes 6 7 8 n and Wallen gets a foothold we know what he like he’s only lost once to Tyson Fury and there’s a lot of people feel that fight would have been stopped if it hadn’t been in Las

Vegas and it hadn’t been Tyson Fury 47 stitches remember um so you can’t write Walling off but I do see Joshua as a decent favorite in that fight if his head isn’t right as if if anyone’s head isn’t right um and I’m still living in your head rentree no no no I’m still

Keeping it going listen I like this now I like we’ve got the this is it’s like we said when a fighter have a fight in the ring is that respect now Che you still listening I’m still listening yeah I’m still listening you I’m listening list I’ve got I like to have a

Conversation rather than have structured question so I’ll just bounce off what you say so you you it’s fun that in your head rent free then or you’ve been in there for two years two years you’ve been in there mean almost called my daughter G when she was born to you sorry you

Mentioned Joshua Joshua’s all about mindset he doesn’t need to fight he’s incredibly wealthy and I think it’s the same problem for Tyson Fury in a similar way it’s a problem for Deontay Wilder but I see him as the hungriest him and yusk as the two hungriest heavyweights

In the world for some reason agree I think Tyson Fury will fight you sick and I think he’ll beat him I do but I think with Joshua the technical level he wants to be at I don’t want to say it’s impossible but he’s chasing something he may not ever be able to

Find you might not agree with me on this you really know you’re boxing I had Joshua in that second fight against YK looking fantastic up to nine rounds the fight was very even but usk fiddled him out of the fight peppered him with little punches moved beautifully and

Just won the fight in the last three rounds took it away from him and that was where that frustration came out and the belts being dropped and what people saw as a tantrum I didn’t I saw it was emotion coming out I liked that I like that side of Joshua when people you

You’ll probably ask me about what about his mood this week I like it when he’s when he’s the bad guy inside trying to be good doing his media duties but only doing what he’s meant to do I want an interview with him this week I’m chasing

Like mad for 5 minutes on my own with him I don’t begrudge him I’ll get round it by speaking to his team you know but I like it when he’s Moody before a fight um I much prefer it to the guy that’s letting Andy Ruiz hold his belts

On stage and you know I think that is Joshua you know he’s he and and I think there are listen I’m saying he’s vulnerable I think Mike Tyson’s a vulnerable human being that that that our Fighters have vulnerabilities they’re human they’re [ __ ] human yeah and I think part of the beauty of what

We do being up close to them is analyze we’re not we haven’t got an agenda against them I really want them all to succeed I don’t want to see a loser out of Parker and Wilder I have great time and great conversations with both of those

Men I’ve known them both a long time you know Geral Miller and Daniel d boy I want both of them to do well believe it or not I’ve known Geral a long time I know he’s been a drugs cheat but he served his time I know he regrets it I

Know he regrets it I’m trying to get him to do an interview with me at the moment about that I think he’s behind you to be honest you not yeah I think he yeah I mean everyone’s back and forth knocking about here you know that’s what’s amazing feels like a Vegas casino again

Which is kind of timely um but it’s a bit more there’s a boxing ring downstairs is I haven’t got my kit with me at the moment I’ve seen you do a leg kicking jeans I know but I’ve got I told you I’ve got injuries I’ve got injuries at

The moment I I we keep getting off we keep going off we keep sidetracking to me and you having a fight let’s get back happen is it we keep seguing away yeah I just want to touch on like I was speaking yesterday when we saw Joshua do

His media work and all that yesterday and a lot of people like around me were saying oh his mentality I’m like this is not to do with mentality listen I think he’s more pissed off and just ready to go that’s what I think cuz I think he’s

Sick and tired of everyone talking about his mental state he’s also on a rival promoters card you know he we’re hearing he’s being press ganged into signing this fight with wilder he may not be ready for that yet um you know Floyd Mayweather very carefully curated his

Opponents at a certain stage in his career I still want to see Fury and Joshua fight by the way I don’t want to see I think I think wild is a very dangerous fight for him it’s a fight he can win but I see it as a very dangerous

Fight given the mindset of Deontay Wilder um I I mean I I could see Wilder fighting Fury again and even winning in the fourth fight I don’t know what you think about that probably like Wilder’s always got that right hand and that and although Tyson Fury got up from that

Right hand a couple of times in the third fight and obviously the the first fight the second fight was a little bit more probably easier for Tyson Fury um but I agree with you I think any heavyweight can be any heavyweight because they’re heavyweights only takes

One punch from these big boys do you know what I mean and even new who might be that fether fisted Fe because he’s a smaller heavyweight he he hurt joshu w a cup in the first fight so every heavyweight can hurt each other it just depends on the time and position and if

It’s their night or not I’ll ask you this question now we we spoke about Joshua and Wilder and how Joshua might be press ganged into taking this fight with wilder but if that fight does happen GTH Joshua and Wilder I said to you off camera Joshua needs to make it a

Four- round fight don’t try and go the distance with him against Wilder yeah make it a four-run fight empty the tank and try and knock him out early yeah because wild is going to hit you at some point and that right hand down the middle it’s so quick um and he inches towards

You and he he’s getting slightly better as a boxer all the time um he does some weird things in those videos he puts out him and Malik Scott but Malik Scott’s very smart knows all the nuts and bolts of boxing knows Wilder’s head inside out and there’s something about Wilder when

You’ got that kind of when you’ve knocked out 42 of your 43 wins and you’ve knocked everyone down you’ve ever fought you know you can he’s got freakish power for incredible incredibly lanky man who’s naturally 16 and a half Stone I mean he’s got so much

Like I bet that guy can Sprint as well I bet he’s got everything fast about him yeah all of it all of it um so you know and and Deontay the only time he packed on a lot more weight in that second fight with wild with Fury he knew that

Was wrong so for me um I’d love to see the fight listen I want to see Wilder and YK as well I think Wilder wins that I think I think we want to see you’re going to go with youi aren’t you I guess Wilder oh that’s

A tough one it really is because Wilder is taller and he he can throw that right hand from he can throw that right hand from 10 ft away and he’s going to land at some point isn’t he and uh I want to touch on wild and Parker because again

When on name for me now no cuz you know let’s do it okay let’s do it name for me your top five in the world he I’ll stop with Tyson at top me too usk second me too no no I’m going wild two Wilder well

I’m usk two Wilder 3 I’m Wilder 2 usk 3 and Joshua 4 now the fifth the fifth J J jell Jang Jil Jang yeah Jil Jang I think J he he he has won he maybe no I get he’s got a cabay coming up in this this

Weekend so if he if he does a de demolition job on undefeated fighter it’s a good fight but then you’ve got H Gerald Miller that we just spoke about he’s undefeated he if he down the Frank Sanchez as well you’ve also got the young pups coming through I like J I

Like Jared Anderson Jared Anderson move into the five or six spot at the moment no not now not now but I think if he has two or three fights next year and then he gets a top 10 guy maybe uh I don’t know maybe he gets a mmov at five mov at

Five josu mov would beat Joshua no but I think look at the body of work beat Joshua listen mov hasn’t we spoke about this mov is as Reckless is probably the wrong way to to to describe his style but he does leave himself open when he

Throws his his hooks his his lead his non thrown hand is down it’s not tucked to his chin he’s all over yes so we need to see him hit I don’t mean we need to him I think I think a fighter that can take a with storm a little bit and catch

Him as he’s throwing I think we can see him get hit let me just say this because a lot of people think I’m overly critical of Anthony Joshua Anthony Joshua is capable of beating 5 4 3 2 1 by the way but based on what I’ve seen

Of him in the last five fights he is around the five mark I only say that is because it’s the body of the work I think the body of work body body of work he a body of work Joshua is is better than everyone I Joshua’s four yeah body of work L like I said you I’m talking about now if they

Fight now if they fight yeah listen I’m probably I’m normally set the fence here G if you’ve actually put me on the spot here asking me questions that’s listen based on who they fought as well I’d see Francis and garu fight anyone in the top

10 would you yeah yeah I’d love to see Francis Inu fight do you not think that Fury is in a way fortunate in what happened with Francis and ganu because that would have sharpened him up for Alexander usk yeah but thing I don’t like the fact I’m not making excus for

Tyson Fury but I don’t like the fact that he’s got a fight coming up against an unknown entity in Francis nanu but 3 weeks before that fight usk was announced and it was signed and we’re going to get that fight now that mentally Tyson’s probably one of the toughest Fighters out there mentally

When it comes to like big fights and stuff so but even at that he’s still human Being I’m just making you stretch I want to I see if I can touch you I’ve got a deont Wilder reach I’ll slip that jab look at that see the head movement there nobody can see on camera but I’m slipping in jab ring weaving I don’t

Like that head movement boom a back hand slap from you it’s always there isn’t it yeah listen I think you want this to happen because you keep I don’t want to you might not live it down imagine you being beaten up by me a 58y old journalist beating you up you better not

Step in the ring with me because you might not be able to show your face in the boxing world ever again cuz everyone SE Frank Frank everyone’s laughing over here cuz there’s a bit of a gallery but everyone knows I’m a massive Underdog against you but if I put you to sleep

You’re [ __ ] in this industry way God there’s no way you put me to sleep yeah but you can’t say that you don’t know cuz if you give me enough reason I will put you to sleep you give you know this you give anyone enough reason they’ll put you to

Sleep not you got a pH I don’t I don’t know like I don’t listen there’s a boxing downstairs you’ve admitted I’m living in your head rentree and it’s been over two years don’t look at where my boot is Right GTH this interview is now over

Wrap this [ __ ] up wrap this [ __ ] up I could gone for hours with you and I love it because I think we should have couldn’t show your in the I could I couldn’t I couldn’t because you’re such an overwhelming favorite against me and you are in your head but let me tell you

Something don’t ever underestimate anyone no definitely not don’t ever underestimate anyone I don’t no no definitely not but GTH I think we should have a body Spar now your rib kid no no no no no no no not at the moment you got SS but I think we should have a little

Player not that’s a little toy fight little little little touch-up body spar right and then we’ll film it we may not really sit in this I don’t hurt you too much all right but we’ll have a little body spawn and have a little move around

And just try and am I squash the bee for once I allowed to kick or not you’re allowed two kicks away from the head neck down do you know what they say it’s the same as merco crocop left foot Hospital right foot Cemetery for you no that’s a merco

Crocop line I love it and I love it and I love it G I will wrap this up cuz you’ve done a lot of interviews no no I don’t want to wrap it up not I’ve got you I’ve got you no you aren’t choosing anymore when we wrap up interviews cuz

I’m living in your head rentree can this interview truly go out or not 100% is going out no go on if you’re ready no I’m not one one ra I just thought that you were being serious you this up you been serious G you been serious Andy are you really

Being serious now no I’m m joing i love you I love you I love you but I’m going to knock you out I’m going to knock you out I’m going to knock you out listen you might be you might be you might be older than me but yeah but the thing is

When I say it I’m a good game when you say it you’ve talked yourself you’ve talked yourself into a corner Now you listen so you never forgave me really did you it’s still burning away there it’s not it’s not got you’ve been in my head for two years I need you out do

You’ve not paid any rent you’ve not do have you got a picture of me at home with darts you’re throwing at you’re you’re on the punch bag you’re on the punch the speed ball just rapping you all the time every day every minute my god um again sidetracked from this interview but

Listen I I do love you G I love I do love you I love you I’m sorry I upset you that day yeah no I genuinely am you know that don’t you I’m happy to say it on camera I really didn’t mean to upset

You and I felt so bad about it CU at the end of the day we are not we are we are colle colleagues sense and a sense yeah yeah and and so and I’ve always liked you and I love the fact that you get involved in boxing in the wayer and I

Know how passionate you are for it like me and it’s a pleasure to be here and as I’ve said in every other interview I’ve done while I’ve been out here make the most of being here it’s very special this is east and west coming together this is the heavyweight division the

Blue Ribbon division of our sport being celebrated could be another sport it could all be football and golf and Formula 1 and not our Sports and the reason why they are celebrating it is because there’s so much talent in the division at the moment and there is as

You know people don’t always realize this the Casual fans there is so much talent in boxing and it has its place in in our society and in our sporting World 100% agree and this is why I love you with stuff like that and that’s what I’m

Saying you got a way with words that I will you and Simon Jordan have got away with words that I will never ever comprehend or get the chance to even speak get Simon Jordan in the ring as well Simon I don’t Simon’s one of them

Guys like only big boys talk I mean he he’s a talker I don’t think he’s got a fight in him to be honest I don’t think Simon Jordan’s got a fight in him do I’ve got a fight in me you’ve got a fight in you I think you’ve got a little

Bit I think you’ve got that little bit of a little bit of dog in you you don’t get you don’t get me angry you better get me out of there quick cuz I’ve got a reason I’m just going to walk through you this this is

Like this is like a do world of Joshua this is a this is this is going early it’s the first one who lands yeah but I’m Wilder and you’re Joshua or do you want to be no no I want to be Joshua I want to be Joshua yeah all right I’ll be

Joshua instead now you gave me the underdog status no you so now you got the big head can I just check who’s the underdog in the fight between us oh you think it’s him she told you I don’t I don’t I never fight anyone as if I’m the under

I’m the favorite I don’t do it that’s what I said to him left foot Hospital right foot Cemetery that’s a merco crocop l listen I like merco croop I like MCO croop he’s a legend of world merco crocop against Gerald Miller did I tell you this earlier yes in the Glory Kickboxing yeah

Did we say it on air M as well did he was he in the oh no no no he wasn’t in it no um well this has been so entertaining could we could we go back go back to the card or we just talk

About me can we go back to the card um I need another coffee though right we the wait should pop around I’m sure he’s about there’s oh he just walk by we’ll grab him when he comes by um Gareth I’m getting I need to get paid for overtime

Here I need to get paid this better this better this better get me my views Gareth if anything then then I’ll pay you if it doesn’t get me any views yet I’m telling you I don’t want that other interview to go out cuz it was I don’t

Know where that is I think I might have it a file but I see you know there’s another interview with me one night in Hollywood um it’s never gone out as well um with kougan and Umar um the UR while Umar of IFL TV now

Obviously he’s moved on um the I I I was we were at Hollywood party do you know about this one and I I was so drunk and they were as well and they said oh let’s start filming at about 1:00 in the morning and I ended up wrecking one of

Their cameras I just I do know their story yeah I do know their story and apparently they’ve still got the footage um oh anyway no no this is the these these clips are before when you retire at the fight game yeah exactly so when you retire we’re going to release all

The [ __ ] that you’ve done in every fight week it’s just going to be an absolute real of just terrible isn’t it I’ve gone from Wild Man to wise man now so it’s over we’ll bring back the wild man um back to the card yes yes um I my

Questions are all up in the air now but I will ask this question like I said to you you could probably go down the card and pick a favorite in in each one but can you see an upset on this card anywhere yeah may be in you I knew you

Going back there I say I’m ending this now don’t hurt me don’t hurt me um no I think Geral Miller against Daniel du I see as an upset to Daniel DUIs no no beating Daniel du I see that happening is J Jal Miller not a

Favorite in this one do you not do you see Geral Miller as the favorite I think he is the favorite I I don’t think he’s the batting favorite no I think I think I I I’m pretty sure Daniel dub is the favorite um inaa no I don’t see that I see Linden AR

Putting up a really good show I don’t see many other upsets um what you want can I have a cappuccino please any cappuccinos over there I drink no toan cappuccino please thank you I’m okay thank you thank you cheers can I have a fizzy water as well please

And and sparkling water thank you thanks yeah uh I no don’t Zoro I think Zoro will bring a great fight but I think his style suits OPP atire herovic deori no stoppage first four rounds for hergovich makov cabel great fight I want to see M mad’s chin get tested looks in really

Good shape I love cabel he’s got a chill Vibe about him he’s not an overly big heavyweight he’s very powerful if he lands clean if cabay if if mmov opens up really opens up he’ll have worked on getting inside they’re a clever team um and he looks confident um

So that could go that listen I think matov is is could be something special if he eats the punches like he’s having his lunch yeah yeah if he eats them if if his George just go to some of them cabel punches I think mmov we could find

Is avoided by everyone else till those big names run about have played out in all their big fights but that could be an upset far and Sanchez Frank Sanchez P um I spoke to Junior far he’s a big lump very relaxingly massive um he spoke to

Me about how important this is for his showcase um Sanchez is a very tricky fighter who was the Nigerian he fought who knocked out every F A Jago yeah a Jago yeah a jagar yeah watched that fight live God Sanchez was clever in that fight we were was that was that

That night it was that was that night yeah you can’t avoid it um they know that’s haunting me you know oh stop it I to see a therapist never about that Nate as I never did against Deontay Wilder I’m going to take my glasses off right now so you can actually see my

Eyes yeah that’s actually I’m the machine without glasses it’s actually quite scary actually yeah you what I’m definitely underd doog now stop looking me like I’ve got pretty eyes yeah um you’re on your ey eyelashes at me um no I I think I’d love to see Junior far do well

But I think Frank Sanchez is too clever and Frank doesn’t look big in the ring but when you stand next to him real life he’s not a small heavyweight I always see him as a small heavyweight but he’s 62 63 yeah um no I think he wins that Parker

Wilder well is it an upset if Parker wins no I don’t think it is I wild and then obviously Joshua and Otto Wallen I think Joshua there you go there the whole card there’s the whole card done wrapped up and listen if I was a bet man would have

Done all that all you said we need to do a face off can you stop pushing the fight between us you’re pushing we’re about to clear I’m just teasing you I’m just I just want to live in your head rentree for another I don’t know maybe a couple

More months know what did we go on stage again together at another IFL TV event the thing is we hugged it out that night a bit that was probably the first time I saw you since there yeah that’s probably the first time I saw you since Vegas

Well I’m sorry for upsetting you but the next time I see you I’ll really [ __ ] upset you see how could you be sorry go back see there like a double you’re going there and you’re taking a hard segue left again you’re sorry but you’re not sorry like I’m get out my head and

There you go how’s that do you know I me I love you I love you Andy it’s been a great interview it’s one of the best interviews I’ve done for a very long time all right I’ll end it I’ll you been serious now you been serious I would end it there guys bless

And thank you very much thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you I’m fine [Applause]