Today we have a very special video from our visit to the Titleist TPI earlier this summer. Bob Vokey, the legend himself joins Ian and Mike to do a test showing the difference in performance from a worn out wedge face vs brand new grooves.
Then, as a special bonus, Bob gives Mikey a blind wedge fit to pick out the best grind for the job! It was a pleasure getting to spend some time with someone like Bob and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did.
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The last wedge Mikey tried was the 60 deg S grind with 10 deg bounce, and he seemed to hit that one with the most confidence and spin. Why at the conclusion of the video did he choose the M grind instead?
With things like the more expensive BGT wedge shaft or other Graphite wedge shafts becoming more common place, changing wedges is expensive and a potential a waste of the other components. I'd like to see a legal hosel that allows the swapping of head's along with the sale of heads only. Rather than hinder sales if you're switching from inland to costal courses as in the UK. or for short sessions were it goes from soft to hard quickly. It would encourage folks to purchase a set of heads with different grinds. I'd love to buy a kit of heads.
outstanding boys, the bounce discussion never gets old.
Easy when you're being given the wedge for free. Not so easy when having to pay £130 plus each. we are paying for the pro's wedges in the price of ours.
Mr. Vokey is a treasure; what a legend!
How many people can afford to change out say, 3 wedges at £160 each every year???
How nervous was Mikey… I think I would hosel shank the first two or three!
Sounds like a wedge salesman lol .. how often do iron faces wear in comparison to wedge faces?
shocked that a guy who makes money off wedge sales would tell people to buy new wedges more frequently…lol
Have my wedges 15 years, starting to get used to them now. Damned if I’m going to change. 🤣
I would have loved to see the Vokey T-Grind 60-04 compared to the 60-04 L-Grind in this video. Lots of guys on tour playing the T-grind.
so high on the face doesn't perform, BV needs to make better wedges
funny how Bob kept pointing out the height of the launch on the old wedge expecting the new one to launch lower, then for it to come out exactly the same and force him to pivot to consistency instead of angle
just get two sets – one for practice you beat up and one for play.
Old, white guy trying to get more money? What’s new..
Which wedge grind tends to have a lower ball flight out of the S grind and the M grind?
I think I remember Bob saying the S goes a little higher than a M grind in a past video I watched. Am I remembering right or no? In some ways I would think the extra bounce on the S grind would make it go lower. Thanks guys!!
As a general rule/ start, If your PW was at a 64 degree lie angle, do you recommend 63.5 for GW, 63 for SW and 62.5 for LW ? So flattening the lie angle by 1/2 a degree throughout the wedges
Or a little flatter like 63 GW, 62.5 SW and 62 LW?
Thanks again guys!! I know you guys enjoyed being with Mr. Vokey !!!!
“Every 2-3 years” flustered Bob.
I wish Bob was just a bit more enthusiastic about his work 😁
Ian at his very best talking shop with Bob Vokey. Impressive bandwidth and knowledge demonstrated on the engineering behind the Vokey wedges which are my personal gamers. 🙌🙌🙌👍👍👍☝️☝️☝️💪💪💪
Bob makes the point about when the wedge gets worn out but the average golfer doesnt hit enough solid shots with spin to realize what it feels like.. to even make the distinction… to even realize how their dispersion is affected and on and on..only in person with a coach/instructor this is understood / while working with range monitor. I'm not throwing shade, but this is what I hear playing with average golfers on daily basis. To make another distinction they dont know how the ball works as well, if you game anything else other than prov1 or 1x good luck getting your ball to respond on the greens with any spin, stopping action
Come’on I get you try to get Mikey involved but he doesn’t know how to change his technique to do what modern wedges are supposed to do…? I’m so tired of videos with him or the other knuckle head doing the swinging! If it’s not just you or Mac or righty mac I’m un subbing!
Can someone explain what is the difference between backspin and spin rate? Before this video, I always thought its the same thing.
Want to save the groves and the face of your wedges and irons….stop hitting POS range balls or balls that just crap. Use the balls you play with and trust me you do not need to hit 60+ yards to fine tune your short game….you can archives so much with in 30 yards or less. As for the test on the wedges….way to little bounce….need far more than 8-degree…10-12 would have been far better. That said, would have enjoyed seeing the manner in which Micky had addressed the ball…hence, the ball position, was the wedge placed behind the ball properly given the bounce. Lastly, was that towel there for good looks…hardly got any love after each shot….shame. With respect to the swing…Micky, get more creative with you swing and finish…way to much cut shot going across, the high fishing. The temp was very nice given all the shots 😀
Mikie probably plays on super soft green. Either way once I got my launch super low. I started throwing darts
I look at it another way. After you get them broken in, they're very consistent.
That S grind sounded so good through the turf. Those longer pitches with the S grind would have probably just got the launch down to around 40 as well.
Great video.
so your telling me the guy that makes wedges wants you to buy more wedges?
just kidding great video guys
What i hate about Vokey is he charges more for raw finish. Every other company charges the same price as their other finishes. He charges a premium for not having to apply a finish on his wedge. It's a total scam by him. $229 vs $179 USD.
Love how excited Bob still gets when Mikey clipped one perfectly, after seeing millions of wedges hit he still can’t get enough of it. Legend
Gosh I loved SM6 it may have been the best looking wedge hated the look of 7 liked 8 a lot
Buy new wedges often so the company can make higher profits lol…. My wedge is 9 years old, works fine.
Yeah you have to change your wedges every 75 rounds. Wedges after all only cost £159 each so nearly £500 a year to you Bob. Also why are you hitting pitches with a 60 degree wedge when really you should be using 52 to 54 which will bring launch down to below 30 degrees?
Fresh wedges are a noticeable game changer.