Brooks Out? Si Woo Kim In? The LIV Chaos Explained | The Dan Evans Show #72

00:00 – Introduction
00:59 – Cookie-Gate Mystery in the Studio
02:12 – LIV Golf Rumor Season Begins (Si Woo Kim to LIV?)
05:52 – Brooks Koepka Sit-Out Rumor Breakdown
16:58 – Hero World Challenge – Top 5 Shots of the Week
20:51 – PGA’s Strategy to Woo Back LIV Golfers
23:45 – Jay Monahan’s PGA Farewell Tour
24:29 – Charlie Woods Meets Scottie Scheffler
27:34 – British Open 2028 Moved for Olympics
30:27 – Olympics Introduces Mixed Team Golf Event
31:23 – Barstool’s Internet Invitational Hits TV
33:29 – Olympic Village ‘Hook-Up’ Culture Laughs
34:52 – Breakdancing at the Olympics – The ‘Raygun’ Debacle
36:39 – Q-School Heartbreak – Final Round Cancelled by Storm
42:45 – Grant Thornton Invitational – PGA & LPGA Team Up
47:10 – Which PGA Stars Could LIV Snag Next?
47:53 – $20,000 Malbon Golf Clubs Launch
49:01 – Would You Pay $20K to Be a Scratch Golfer?
52:30 – Magical Sports Gear Debate (Steph Curry Ball & “Like Mike”)
54:49 – TGL’s New ‘Stinger’ Virtual Golf Hole Revealed
01:02:22 – Christmas Movie Draft Kicks Off
01:13:02 – Debating the Best Christmas Movie Lineups (Vote Results)
01:22:14 – Post-Draft Banter – Rocky IV vs. Die Hard
01:23:34 – Final Wrap-Up and Sign-Off

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And we got a full field of 32 players, 16 teams. Only Tommy would call that a full field. And there was Jesus. To me, the the animation of Polar Express, everyone looks like they have like a physical disability. What’s going on with Brooks? There’s all these rumors going around. He’s signed to play. He has a contract. End of story. What is up everybody? And welcome to the Dan Evans show. It’s got a nice ring to it. It is here. Yeah. Name change and everything. I like it. We’re always making updates. You never know. Uh guys, I’m uh I’m a little blown away by some of the news that’s come out this week. Little taken aback, if you will, or as some say taken back for it being the winter time. Like, we got a lot of golf news this week. We got a lot of golf news. We got a lot of get lot to get through in this show. No, I almost feel like there’s no time to dillydally, if you will. No. Here on the Dan Evans Show. No, never. Not a bit. classically. Um, I feel like we got to jump right into it. Oh. Oh, there’s a cookie gate. There was a cookie gate this week. Oh, no. All right, we’ll dillydally. Totally fine. So, we’ll just we’ll just come right in with dillydalls. So, uh, what happened was Dan was out of town for the past couple days. He’s been uh he had a conference in Colorado and on Monday we come in the studio and there’s he doxed me. There’s there’s this cookie like of course you know we got all our little Debbie stuff but there’s this bland cookie just sitting on the table and we’re like do you put that there? I go no. Did you? I I get a picture text message being asked what is this cookie and why is it on this table? I’ve never seen this cookie. Apparently they’ve never seen this cookie. Don’t apparently me. You haven’t ever seen this cookie. I mean for all I know this is a big joke and you did bring it so I will say apparently. because I wasn’t here when it arrived. Neither were we, apparently. I don’t There’s a mystery cookie. Nobody knows whose it is. I feel like these guys should play a game to see who has to take a bite out of it. Yes. Wait, why are you not involved in the game? He was involved. I have to keep score. Well, stop doxing him. He doesn’t want to do guys. It’s my favorite time of year. Live golf rumor season. Let’s go. Yes. which is also every time of year. So, it’s also my favorite. But there are substantial rumors floating around that Seiwoo Kim is in final talks in the final stages of a deal to head to live golf. That’s insane. It’s not the biggest name where I thought they were saying, but I feel like it fits. Siu, don’t you don’t have to take that from him. Yeah, I feel like that perfectly describes what they described. I mean, the guy’s a players champion 100%. Uh, youngest winner in history. I mean, speaking of a no-name, but, you know, whatever. It’s totally fine. That guy won the Windham championship. Guy gets free hotel rooms for the next four years. Did it before Clark could do it either. Yeah. Every time. Uh, is this is this the one that they’ve been like hinting at? I guess so. I guess you you’re so unhappy. We know it’s not Sanjay. Well, we know that. Well, it’s not like I mean he is he considered a household name you think when it comes to golf? There’s not that many golf names. He won the players champion. Like I mean guy’s got a bunch of wins. He’s got the the Windham championship, the American Express, the Sony um and the players. So to me that’s that’s a pretty decent career. Okay. more wins than my favorite golfer. Well, yeah, but that would have been a bigger move to me in the golf world. But do do wins really matter when we’re talking about relevancy in a Liv signing? Like, do you would you rather have a bigger name? Would Liv rather sign a bigger name or a guy with more wins? I think they’d rather sign a guy with a bigger name like Tommy than a guy with more wins like Cu Kim. Listen, none of us can afford Tommy. Yeah, fair. Fair. He’s got those golf schools. Yep. He beat 15 players one time in a tournament. That was really cool. Um, so winning the Super Bowl is just beating one team. Yeah. What are we doing here? Okay, cool. You beat one team. That’s funny. Hilarious. Super duper bowl. Super duper bowl. Yeah. I don’t know if we have the rights to say uh No, we have to believe that every time. No, we can say super duper bowl. Yeah, we could say super duper bowl. That’s fair. Yeah, he definitely didn’t say duper the first time. No, no, that one will have to be censored out. Uh there’s talks of them heading over to the Iron Heads, which clearly need some a little bit of help because they did so bad last year. Yeah. I mean, just incredibly bad. But I think that would be a kind of a wonderful moment for him if he gets to turn the team around, bring some live wins. Do you think he’ll become the captain? I think he for sure should. Um who is the captain now? Uh is it Kevin Nath? It might be Kevin Na. It might be Kevin. Nah. Kevin. Nah. Nah. Nah. No. No. It’s not. Here’s what I think though. I think there needs to be more like physical competition for things. For example, a wrestling match between Seiwoo Kim and Kevin Na for who gets to be captain. Couldn’t agree more. Clearly my money’s on Seiw. I mean, all day long. Look at this guy. He’s He’s He’s got He’s got some gas in the tank. Yeah. Gas tank. Yeah. The tank. He’s got a little gas in the tank. Key in the ignition. Yeah. Dr. Ben Stone’s our number one gift right now. Oh, thank you. Thanks for joining the live. What up? Uh, now he clearly is not filling the spot of a potential another rumored change in the world of Live Golf. Go on. There is this unconfirmed reported rumor going around that Brooks Kepka is going to sit out next season, which to me is wild. That is. How do you just sit out? Do we love it or hate it? I love controversy. Fair. And this classifies as that. Um, but here’s the thing though. There’s been no official statement. Like he hasn’t come out to say he’s doing this. They then ask Scott O’Neal, the CEO of Live Golf, like what’s going on with Brooks? There’s all these rumors going around. He’s like, Scott O’Neal totally. And what does he say? He’s like, “Yeah, he’s signed a play. He has a contract. end the story. This sucks for me because Brooks is my guy. He I I thought his contract was up this year. Uh he says, “I know you’re not gonna want to hear this one, but he’s signed for 2026.” Um I bet I bet he plays. I don’t know. I bet he plays. If he’s signed, I bet he plays because because I’m sure that Liv’s got to have some opt out rules like, hey, you know, all that money we gave you for the four years or threeear term you’re playing, if you leave beforehand, you don’t get to keep all that money. Well, so it’s here’s the problem. None of us know anything and it’s all super secretive and we don’t even know how much he got in the first place, but there’s all these guesses between 100 125 million to go. Some people are saying that he would forfeit $20 million by sitting out. But again, nobody knows. It’s fair. And if he’s if is he forfeiting 20 or does he got to come out of pocket with 20? Oh, cuz that’s a big difference. That totally is. Like, is it is it a check you didn’t get or a check you already get and then you got to go do like a fill out a withdrawal slip, right? Yeah. It’s got to be a check you haven’t gotten. Has to be. It has to be. Chat says here, “Brooks is like Dennis Rodman of golf.” Wow. I You know what? If he went for it with the hair, I I’d totally be here for it. Explain that. I I don’t get that one. I I don’t I don’t get that one cuz Dennis Rodman was like the heel. Yeah, but he’s not the heel. I feel like the heel. I feel like Phil would be more like Dennis Rodman. I mean, kind of like a freak. Maybe we can freak. Freak. Phil Mickelson. The freak in Josh’s eyes. Look what he does with the Who’s more likely to go to North Korea? Brooks Keeper or Phil Mickelson? Phil. North Korea. Dennis Robman. Well, that’s fair. I think Phil would become Kim Jong-‘s friend. Is it or you combined Oon and ill? Yeah. Got it was my father. You’re in the ill. Jesus. We’re We’re Yeah. Continue. Still just way off the rails again. So much news to cover and we dive right into the cookie gate. But um right couldn’t help ourselves. I don’t. All right, let’s just let’s just see who’s going to be right and wrong about this. Who thinks Brooks Ska is in fact going to be sitting out or who do you think is just uh who thinks he’s just going to be showing up tournament one and all this was a waste of time to talk about? Brooks plays and live this year. Anyone else? Joshua, I don’t think so. Sitting. I think he’s sitting. Wow. We got a split table over here. That’s true. We usually do. Uh say your so I can be split. No, no, no, no, no, no. You you can you can start. Uh because I love controversy. Um, I’m going sitting because that’s the outcome I would like to see. I I want to see how that that mayhem plays out. Welcome to my team. He’s playing. He’s playing. Yeah. Look at you two. Me and Dan actually agreed on something. Who would have ever thought Bears Lions coming together agreed on something? Crazy. Wow. Well, mark it down and we’ll come back and check and uh review the tape. I also feel like we are missing a piece of information on whether he’s coming out of pocket for 20 million or if it’s just a negating a 20 million. Well, and again, we’ll never know. Well, he could he could come out and say, you think like he’ll do like an Instagram story like a I think there will be a if he doesn’t play, there will be a post. It’d be great. You ever Man, I got a little little something going on here. A little fraud. Yeah, Denver. Dr. Dr. Ben Stone’s on our side. He said Brooks is definitely playing. Uh Jenna Sims, Brooks’s wife, he’s not playing. Damn it. She’s She’s got a fantastic Instagram to follow. Always fun. But periodically, you could tell she’s been like drinking wine, you know, like the little little little uh red around the lips and all that. And she’s just the purple teeth. I would love for her to have like do one of these wine Instagrams and just tell us all like the whole thing. What are you doing in there, honey? Yeah, it’d be great. It would be great. All right. Well, we’re locked in on our answers. We know where we stand. I stand with controversy cuz I like it. Uh the other question is how does that play out? So, if he does choose to sit out, um is he playing zero golf? Is he only heading back to the majors that he has his exemption still into? Is he bidding for a chance to go back to the PGA Tour? Is the PGA Tour going to give him the 12-month timeout like they’ve given other people? You know, that to me is why I want the chaotic route to play out because I want to see how this is all handled. And does the PGA Tour say, “Boy, would we love to have Brook Skepka back, but but we have to follow the standard of what we did for say Lorie Caner and others and make them sit for 12 months.” I I think the PGA has got to stand pack because that’s what they’re all about. The legacy, the all that. And if they break the 12 months for him, that will just implode the PGA because everybody’s going to be like, I’m going to live because there is no you can’t have it for one player, not the other. And what a power move for Liv to dismantle the juggernaut of live golf that they’ve been in this battle against. If they said, “You know what? Actually, you big dogs who have gigantic names, you actually can come back.” What happens then? Well, if he sits out 2026, does that count as his year of his 12 months? For sure. So then, what if he just sits out, pays his fine, and then just goes to PGA the next year? So, you’re saying they’re going to make John Rom wait a whole year to play back on the PGA Tour? I do. I don’t I I think PGA is so stuck in their ways. They have their heels so dug in that they can’t make those exceptions. Well, even even then I think there’s with contracts involved. I don’t think even if the PGA said, “Hey, Brooks, you can come play this season.” I don’t think he’d be allowed to probably, right? There’s got to be something in his writes that $20 million check and he says, “I’m going to PGA.” Wait, does the 20 million just get him opted out or is it just a $20 million fine? Cuz that’s there’s a difference between a fine and a full-on opt out of his contract. So, what is Liv going to do? sue him. Like that’s what I I mean, if it’s in his contract, you can’t go and play for the PGA or another organization while you’re under contract, then yes, they are going to sue him, but it’s in all of their me it’s in all of their contracts from the PGA when they went to go play live. So, they are they’re they’re breaking it both ways, I I guess. But I mean, here’s the the wild card part of the whole situation. PJ Tour has a new CEO, so we don’t know how this CEO handles these types of situations. And that’s the former NFL guy, right? Yeah. Uh Brian Rolap. And what was his position before? Um he was like the vice president of broadcast for the Gell’s right-hand man. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. So, in which Goodell does whatever the f he wants anytime, anywhere. If you’re a star, you don’t follow any rules at all. If you’re a star and you want that team to win, they’re just the refs don’t call anything at all or call everything on the other team. Like, that’s Gell through and through. Well, they got to keep it entertaining since it’s classified as entertainment. That’s fair. It’s the same classification as WWF or E or whatever we’re on now. E it’s like L or something. I don’t know. WWL. Wow. This could be so interesting. I’m so here for it. I’m so here for it. I want Brooks to do what his heart desires. Chat asks a very interesting question. Okay. Is Brooks hurt? his heart or his wife feelings. His wife with the wine. My bags would be killing me if I was Justice or whatever Sims. Why is that? No, but that’s that’s a great point though cuz if he’s hurt and he doesn’t play and live for the 12 months because of injury because of injury, not just like opting out to hang out at the beach. Correct. Is it like, “Ow, ow, my pancreas hurts, so I’m not going to play.” Yeah. And then I got this pesky hangail, right? Pancreas. You know, it’s a hilarious first injure to think of. It’s a beef and buttad reference. Yeah. Didn’t get it. Yeah. Are over here. Yep. That would be interesting, right? Like, how you feeling? He’s like, “Ah, yeah. Still still back.” Yeah. Here, let’s take some more X-rays and stuff like that. The CAT scan doesn’t show anything. Looks fine. Like, I thought it was the other arm. He was like, “Oh, yeah. That’s That was the arm. I forgot. What if maybe that was his plan and that’s why this is leaking out now cuz Liv’s going to be like, “Well, let’s leak out that he let’s just say, oh, Brooks is thinking about not playing to 2026.” So when that rolls around, they can be like, “Hey, are you sure you’re injured or are you just trying to get out?” It’s they’re like presetting the narrative. Yeah. People are like, “Oh, he’s hurt.” Almost all information in sports that gets leaked is leaked for a purpose. It’s not usually people aren’t hacking in emails and getting this information. It’s being told to agents to create narratives. Do we know at all who leaked it? Um, the original report came from uh reporter Josh Carpenter of Sports Business Journal broke the story. But again, like there’s like no proof. There’s not like tape anonymous sources, right? And that that’s been the tough thing is like everybody’s talking about it. They’re even asking the CEO of Live Golf about it. Meanwhile, based on what, right? It’s all our favorite word. Speculation. Right. Oh, yeah. It’s in my Mount Rushmore of words. Nobody knows but Brooks. Nobody knows but Brooks. I do I do like that angle though. If he decides that he wants to go to PGA, that he takes the injury route because then PGA doesn’t have to dig their heels in and say he’s not playing. They don’t have to make exceptions. all that kind of stuff. You know, maybe it’s like the whole Michael Jordan going to baseball thing. Number 45, the GOAT. We’ve been too off the rails today. I’m not going to He’s not taking the bait. Not taking the bait. Not today. Yep. We’ll talk about I haven’t left room for it. Y I got a lot of Christmas movie takes that I’m going to save my energy for. All right, fine. Well, let’s jump into some shots of the week. Hero World Challenge, the Tiger Woods Tournament, which there’s like multiple cuz he’s like the Genesis is the Tiger Woods tournament and the Hero is Tiger Woods tournament. The PNC should be the Tiger Woods tournament, but he’s not showing up this year. But we do have the Hero World. And uh there’s a couple fun moments. Josh, roll the tape. Hero World. What do we got? Number five, Windham Clark chipping in from the bunker on seven. on seven during the first round. Um, we did hear a lot of uh Windham Clark complaining about course conditions, but apparently he figured it out here on this shot. All right, we got number four. Oh, Windham Clark again. Putting in a little toilet bowlie. These are my Okay, you know what? These are my favorite. Give me a nice swirly whirly whoop 360 all the way around. I wonder if uh like his aim point told him it was going to do that. You know, he’s out there with the fingers and the whole thing all the way around. I love that. Those are nailbiters, if you will. All right, what do we got? Number three. Hideki Matsuyama holes out from some distance in the final round. This is where he was really gaining momentum towards what gave him the win of the tournament. Such a good one when it lands and zips back like that. I love a little zip. That went sideways. Little side zip. All right, number two, Alex Norin. Uh, putting into force the playoff against Hideki Matsyama, which, you know, didn’t go great for him, but at least gave him another chance to try. Not that it’s the best shot in the world, but it was clutch. He needed it. He had to have that birdie to give him one more shot, take him into the playoffs. And a number one shot. Hideki Matsyama clinches the win in the first playoff hole with a shot from the fairway to four feet to seal the deal at Tiger Woods My Hero World Challenge. Good for him. You know what’s interesting though? Hideki Matsyama’s year. Comes out, starts the whole year off with a win. Go on. He takes uh was it the Sony? Wins at the Sony. Kicks off the whole year with a win. Then not a single other top 10 finish throughout the year and then comes back to end the year with a win at the hero. Not even a top 10 finish. Not even a top 10 all year. Just starts with a win, ends with a win and just takes the rest of the season off apparently. Kind of the opposite of Tommy. Yeah. Where he’s just every single time a top 10. Anybody who wins is the opposite of Tommy. Oh my god, that is so painful. Daggers for all of us die hard Tommy Phil in Europe apparently. I found out this week that this ain’t a sanctioned PJ tour event. So it’s technically not a PJ tour one. That’s true. They what that there’s no FedEx Cup points does nothing but they do get like some official World Golf ranking points. Is it If you win this, you still get your two years for a PJ tour card, you know? I don’t know. I mean, because it’s outside of the tour, does it does it do anything for you? Because I because I you were right. OGR points were added from this. Chad says, “Statwise, if you play good at hero, you have a great following year.” Oh, Scotty showed us that. There we go. Yeah. Okay, that’s fair. Um, so money’s on Hideki for next year to win the first tournament and then nothing else. That’s fair. until the hero at the end of the year. Yeah, good for him. He needed it with his super duper bright yellow shirt. Yeah, I like the trophy. I hate the shirt, but I like the trophy. I mean, back on the Brooks thing, if he does decide to not join into the PGA Tour and he gets the one year, he can be playing the DPS, right? World Tour. Yeah, you got to pay that fine though. There’s a fine everyone has to pay to play the uh DP World Tour. Yeah, but yeah. How much is a fine? Brooks is good. I think Yeah, by the ATM. I think I think Brooks has got a million. Well, I mean, are there other tournaments where that he doesn’t have to pay a fine? No, I think he’s got to pay a fine in every single one of them. The St. Andrew’s local here in Frankfurt. Yeah. I don’t think I don’t think Brooks is uh tough for cash right now. I think he’s he’s he’s gonna be all right. He’s cruising. What’s going to be amazing though is the precedence it sets. or this sets the precedent. One or the other. Yeah. Yes. That that’s exactly I don’t even know what precedent I believe is right or wrong. It’s just whatever he does, I’m going to agree with his decision because I’m just going to support him blindly. No matter what, I fully support that. What about is there a right or wrong way PGA handles it? Um well, of course, they can do no right, obviously, but yeah. But what I think is there is a chance for them to strategically dismantle live with some of the options. Fair. And by them just saying, you know what, we forgive you. Yeah, there was a lot going on back then. Checks were flying. You can just come on back and play next week. You you can you can jump right in at the Grant Thornton and pick a partner and have some fun. I mean, and then could you imagine if they give a sixmonth period of anybody who wants to come back doesn’t have to pay. So, people kind of have to like panic decide. They’re like, “Oh my god, like it’s like there’s just this one window. You can come. We’ll all just pretend nothing happened. That’s a great idea, but I have a different tweak to it. Six months is way too long. I’m thinking 48 hours. 48 hours. 48 hours. You have to announce it on X. The The everything app obviously or Instagram threads. You have all my threads, but I did. I announced it like nobody saw it. I mean, we don’t believe you. Check my threads. Wait, what? So, like, do you I threaded a thread? Like, yeah. Oh, dude. Thread that. Like, I I posted a thread. I posted You’re a threads guy. Threads guy. Yeah. I It’s I tweeted I threaded. I threaded. I exed the Everything app. Yeah. Oh, X that are Are you still saying tweeted or X? I still tweet. I’ I never said X. It’s always going to be Twitter. I’m only going to say X when I’m saying X the everything app because it’s it is the full description of Yeah, you know. Well, whatever. Good for you. Please fire Jay Monahan. He’s already leaving, isn’t he? That’s what That’s what chat says. Is he leaving? I thought he was. I’m going to miss him. Wasn’t Brian Rolap taking his job? Yeah, still. So I I would assume he’s leaving then, right? No, he totally is. He’s on his farewell tour just about to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a farewell tour as a CEO. Never been done before. Like he literally had somebody replace him already. Like where’s he going? It’s like we just talked about it. Could you imagine though? He like like heads over to like manage tennis or something like that and go screw that up too. Yeah. Right. It’s already we would say bowling, but there’s nothing to screw up. Oh no. Got him. Ah, rude. Um, yep, it was. That’s on me. I think Charlie Woods might be one of my favorite guys out there. Go on. Uh, he’s hanging out at the hero chilling with his dad, Tiger. And, uh, Scotty Sheffller walks over, number one golfer in the world. I mean, I don’t know if they’ve met before, but the appearance of the video looks like this was maybe more of a first time meeting. Mhm. And Tiger like shakes Scotty’s hand and he was like, “Oh, my son Charlie.” Charlie was so nonchalant about I mean almost just beyond zero chalant. I mean Yeah. I would be pretty shal, but he was just negative levels of chalant meeting Scotty Shefflin. Do you have the video? Uh I could pull it up. All right. Well, I mean, if you’re looking at this screenshot right here, look at the grip from Scotty. Even though he’s a 16-year-old kid, he is not He’s giving him a man’s handshake right there. Look at that. That’s And like he’s on the underside. Like a really welcoming like, you know. Well, is it welcoming or is it intimidating? Cuz look at the angle he’s got Charlie at now. Now Charlie’s at one of these. You never want to be at one of these. You want to Yeah. But if like if someone’s introducing you to a buddy like, “Hey, meet my buddy Scotty.” Like, “Scotty, how are you?” Like there’s, you know, like a little little little turn. You’re not You’re not coming over the top, but it looks like he’s turning it a bit. No. Well, I guess we’re about to see it. All right, let it roll. Number one hanging with number one introducing Scott to his son. Charlie has a very Look at the fingers. He’s not deep at all. Rewind. Rewind. The levels of Shalant. Yeah, doesn’t doesn’t even keep eye contact, man. Good driver, tough handshake. I What? But I mean, when your dad’s the greatest golfer of all time, do are you like impressed by any other golfer? That’s the crazy part. Like the perspective of it. It’s like, oh, like you’ve done pretty well for, you know, golf past couple years. Yeah. Nice. Like my dad’s first of three careers. Yeah. Good job, Scott. You know, good job, Scott. I I just think that he’s been he’s been around the number one golfer in the world for how many years of his life? And then pretty much all of them. Yeah. And he goes to meet Scotty pretty much. And he’s just like, “Oh, cool.” Yeah. What’s up? I mean, I think he’s been around the best golfer for his entire life. I mean, Scotty looks more excited than Charlie. Probably is because I mean, Tiger was, you got to think about it, the greatest golfer, number one, before Charlie was born, right? Yeah. I I have a theory. So, we’re all very like defensive of our parents, right? Like Like you could say anything bad about your parents you want, but if someone else says anything bad about your parents, just you’re the worst person throwing hands. Yes. Exactly. Do you think there’s a part of him that’s like this is the guy that’s trying to chase my dad’s legacy? Like I don’t really like this guy to be honest. I’m not really rooting for him. I don’t want you to be better than my dad. Yeah. And then so like in return he’s kind of like unimpressed. Yes. Exactly. He’s like all right. Okay. So So one of what do you got? Less than five majors. Good for you. Did you guys hear they’re moving the British Open in 20 2028? Yeah. They are for what? They have to accommodate for the Olympics, which to me, I think it should be the other way around, but whatever. So be it. That’s a hot take. That’s totally fine. But you know what? Here’s what I’ll say. I actually like the idea of spreading the majors out a little more. Yeah. I feel like they’re a little bunched up. We kind of go like, you know, April, May, June, July, and we’re done. Then we got to wait eight more months to have majors again. And for me that’s a little tough like that the biggest moments of golf are kind of stacked up. So at least now we get a little July breather and it’s going to be August 3rd through 6th. Um which is a fantastic week. Fantastic week. Um the Mount Rushmore of days of the year for sure. August 4th and eighth. Yeah. Well, you didn’t get the British for 2028. Yeah. Well, it’s fine. You would want the British. I’m American. Uh, well, yeah, but we send Scotty over there to win it for us. True, true, true. Or I have a feeling Bryson might get it this year. That’d be great. If he can shoot better than seven over in the first round, he probably will get it to be honest. I mean, that’s that’s a legit just like two over maybe. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it’ be fine. What a wonderful thing. Four strokes. Yeah. 120 days to the Masters. 120 days to Masters. Thank you. Thank you. How do we put a petition together though to spread out the majors a little bit? I mean, I I I could not agree with you more. I mean, I I guess by saying it on the show, uh this is a pretty big petition. I mean, all of our viewers, you know. Yeah. Um and I mean 10 viewers. 10 if you round to the nearest round up to the nearest 10. Yeah. No, I’m with you. Let’s I mean, let’s spread let’s spread them out. I think I think we need one earlier. Yeah. And the last one needs to be later. Yep. Although I don’t know if I want the Masters before April. No, I say start it start at the same time, but like end it at like maybe the last week of August. I mean, because I I will say like RDER Cup into September is fun for sure. Like getting big time golf all the way into September. I mean, let’s push to October. There’s great weather in October. But but but then you’re also competing with football. That that’s tough. Yeah. And honestly, such a juggernaut for football to take that hit, all of the tens of people. We’ve been doing this. Yeah. I mean, football’s obviously not going to bat an eyelash whether golf’s on or not. They’re like, “Oh, what are they doing to us?” Right. It’d be sad. They change they move all the games to the middle of the week. But did you see in the Olympics night football? Did you see in the Olympics they added a new event in the golf? What is it? It’s the mixed team event. Oh, I was hoping it was like a Top Golf kind of a thing or something. Yeah. What’s the mixed team event? Uh, it is uh men, women, mixed and they play. There’s I didn’t see that many details, but that’s that’s pretty much they have to date for six months and then they play around. Yeah. How they’re fighting. You know what would be funny? What if what if uh like they for the USA what if they were able to make like a YouTube live stream of them like got well they don’t have carts never mind never mind well because I I do think they broadcast the Olympics they do I they they do they do here what if they streamed the video they they do but I was going to say have them with cart cams have like a YouTube broadcast but never mind you know what I would support the idea of bar stool getting in on some of the production for the Olympics golf which by the way uh in my hotel room this week I was flipping some channels uh the entire internet invitational was on FS1 really cool I had no idea yeah I think they’re a Fox show the the wait there it was like multiple shows and multiple so like like the one I tuned into there was like when I had turned it on it was the last two episodes were playing like back toback. Oh wow. all four hours. Uh I think it was cut down because they were in like one hour slots or but it said like part one, part two or something. I don’t know. However they broke it up, but I like got to rewatch the ending and saw beef win. I recriedried. I mean, when you think about it, it was so long. You could turn that into a 20 episode series. You just cut it up into a bunch of slots for TV and you’re chilling. P Diddy with his four episode documentary. That was really good. Wow. It would be great if the Internet Invitational and that style of golf became like um what Rob Deerick for kind of M MTV. They just played him the whole time. Rest in peace MTV. After the new year, they’re done. It’s cuz Deerick’s gone. Yeah, they got nothing. Our one show’s gone. Yeah. U I I don’t know. Like they just we’re just running that around the clock. They’re just continually doing these tournaments and all you do is just turn on FS1 in internet invitational channel. I I’d be fine with that. What What was her name? Chanel Chanel West Coast. Yes. Who would have ever thought that Chanel West Coast when she like was his personal assistant just on the show being his secretary would have become that famous? It was the moment where she got hit in the face by the kickball, the dodgeball. Yeah, that that was the moment that that really kind of solidified her to start. What was awesome about that episode though wasn’t that she just got kicked. They put a helmet on her so when they did the dodgeball tournament she would be protected. Dude full on nails her in the face, chips her tooth with the helmet on and it didn’t help her. Nothing. Hilarious. Wow. So you’re talking about in the mix mixed doubles golfing how they have to date for 6 months. Yeah. On a side note, you know at the Olympics they give out anywhere from 300 to 400,000 condoms. It’s true. Yeah. That is wild. Are we just all doing old dance golf world bits? doing Chanel. Let’s go down. Run it back. This is all corner conversations, right? What What’s going on in that Olympic village, though? Everything. Well, primarily one main thing. They be freaking up in that village. Well, I mean, think about it, though. You have all of these like impeccably chiseled bodies that are on both sides that are just like, you know, Yeah. You you get a pole varter walking in here and no one no one can control themselves. What kind of pole varter? Um a US Olympic gold medalist. I that’s all kinds. I wonder what’s more. Is it winter or summer Olympics? They hand out more summer. Summer. I feel like summer instead of like the shampoo and conditioner in a hotel, it’s like condoms and a Marvin Gay CD. I feel like summer’s has more participants. Yeah, definitely. It does. There’s more sports. Gotcha. People care more too. But can you imagine that’s like almost natural selection for birthing? Like let’s put together a basketball player and a track star and see what happens. It’s fair. It’s like a like a eugenics experiment. They just take all of these random peak athletes from around the planet and then make new athletes. And then there’s Ray Gun. Is she coming back? Are they going to run back? I think they took out Oh yeah, that’s right. I think they got rid of it already. The break dancing. Oh jeez. Yeah. She was an Aussie, right? Yeah. Yeah. Right. She literally looked like a like a fourth grade teacher just like walked out. Yeah. I I think they got rid of that actually. Probably because of her. Like dead serious. I mean, the whole event was stupid. Yeah. But the amount of Olympic events that get zero media coverage and aren’t trending at all. Break dancing definitely wasn’t last. It was so corrupt how she got there and she did so bad. But at least they made like it was a funny thing that we were talking about online and it got some headlines. There’s I mean a lot of nobody was talking about canoe schlalom. If I want to watch good I’d rather put on step in there. I would rather watch it sounds better. I would rather watch Step Up than watch that Olympic break dancing. Wow. The dancing was better in stepup. Is that in the movie draft? Stepup. No, it’s not Chris. We’ll get there. Have you watched the movie Step Up? I’ve seen all of them. All of them? Yeah. Fair. Can I ask why? Cuz I like that culture. It’s It’s more like more like fashion and street culture than like dancing. Definitely edit that out. What are you talking about? Wow. the I didn’t say anything that was bad. No, it does. Perfect. It’s great. All right. Uh, moving on. So, Q School got cancelled. Yeah, this was kind of wild, though. Uh, some inclement weather rolled in during round four of Q school. And of course, as we know, Q school is the grueling journey towards getting your PGA Tour card or depending on what you’re schooling for, your cornfairy tour card, whatever. Uh, these guys were out playing fourth round and and weather rolls in and they got to pull these guys off course. They can’t finish the round. Well, the problem is when this happens and if it’s determined that they can’t they can’t resume the round and get everybody to finish the round in time, they just wipe the round out and just go with the finishing scores from the third round. So, if you’re coming alive in the fourth round, it’s your day like you, you know, you you’ve put you got like your thoughts together. You’re Bryson Dambo who shoots minus 20 the first day, comes back and finishes six. Well, that’s what happened to Jonathan Brightwell. He was three shots outside of moving forward, getting his car, doing the whole thing. And on Sunday, the final round, he was one of the early groups to go out. This dude is on fire. Just starts absolutely crushing. He was six under, putting himself in the lead position going into this whole thing. They blow the horn. They pull everybody off the course and they say, “You know what? We’re wiping this round out. Even though you’re playing the round of your life, it no longer matters and we’re just going with yesterday’s finishing scores and you are out. I couldn’t imagine. Who is the last place person that got the exemption or got the tour card? Um, it’s popping champagne. The guy no one heard of. I don’t think anybody Jonathan Brightwell either, but well, we all have now because we feel bad for him. But could you imagine being that guy and he’s just like, “Please wipe out the scores. Please wipe out the scores. Please wipe out the scores.” He’s he’s in the clubhouse talking to everybody with his phone out like, “Man, the radar’s looking bad.” I think he’s wiping us out, man. Really coming down. Lightning. Did you hear that lightning? Shoot like an 85 that round. Yeah. And what’s wild is the uh the first groups that started were already on 17, but the last groups that started were only on eight when the horn blew. Yeah. And but the guys on 17, they’re one hole away from finishing the round to wrap this thing up. And horn blows, pull everybody off, the weather is just too bad. And the whole thing, the rule is in the bylaws, if every single player can’t finish the round within that same day, the round doesn’t matter. Doesn’t count. throw the whole thing out. But now on the PJI, I feel like they’ve done some Monday finishes and stuff like that. So, how does that work? So, there was a rule. Hold on. I’ve got way too many notes on this. Um, but they have one day to finish it and apparently with the weather that just wasn’t possible. Oh, so it was just it was like a Monday and then it was going to be terrible weather Monday. So, they’re just weather rolled into Dosta, Georgia. And u Yeah, it was determined. And so you’ve got guys like um James Nicholas is another guy I follow. He’s kind of on his journey of you know different levels of going pro and he was in his Q school and he was it was in a similar situation where he was playing really well. He needed this this final round where he was putting it together and he’s just talking about how hard it is. He was like we’re in the final stage of Q school. This is the fourth stage. like we’ve come all of this way and we’re in the final round of the final stage and I wasn’t playing great earlier, but I I’m here. It’s Sunday. I’m doing it and I’m like I can see it. I can taste it. I can smell it. Horn blows. Throw the round out. Go with yesterday’s scores. None of this matters. Go back home. Start over again next year. Crazy. Absolutely crazy, man. Such a let down. I know. That’s one of those things that like if if that happened to me, I would legitimately be complaining about it until the day I died. Everybody I know would be so annoyed with me because all I would do is be like the I had one hole left. You would be telling the bad beat poker stories. Oh my god. All day. Not that I don’t do that now, but you know. All right, here we go. I found the notes. Um the rule that drove the decision is part of the standard bylaws for Q school and the cornfairy tour. It stipulates that if a round isn’t completed by the end of the scheduled day, that round is cancelled unless at least half of the field has completed it, which nobody because they were on 17, right? 17 was as far as they made it. And because of that, so it was like, man, if it would have just rained an hour later. Yeah. Two hours later. Yeah. Yeah. We’ maybe teed off a little earlier, you know what I mean? Done a little less stretching, you know? I don’t know. Again, that last place guy. Come on, guys. I mean, weather says like I come on, you know, I can play through this. We’re fine. We could play. He’s play playing the Patrick Canley speed, slowing the entire field behind him like just I like the idea of him acting like really scared of the weather being like, “Oh my goodness, guys. Here, let me duck waddle here for like 2017 seconds.” Scooch, scooch, scooch, scoochy. You know, waggle waggle. Meanwhile, the other guys are like, “Let’s go, dude.” That thing you sent me uh sent us yesterday. I watched it probably two or three times just waiting for the guy to swing. Oh, the the Waggle King. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, which one did you think it was? The the Waggle King. He never hit it. It was a little I thought you were talking about the one of the guy goes and takes a huge in like it was a really nice high-end store. Yeah. Is that like Tiffany’s in Tiffany? Yeah. Uh that’s you know what we’ve reached peak internet content now. We’ve all been there. Brain rot. Absolute brain rot. Whatever. I don’t know. Uh Josh, why don’t you tell us about the Grand Thornon? Josh, run us through the Grand Thornon Invitational. It’s a little bit different format and I know you find this quite interesting. Give us a little bit of a rundown here. So the Grant Thornton Invitational. I keep wanting to call it the Grant Horvette. Me too. I I read Grant Horvette. I Yeah, me too. Me too. So hard to have Grant not have for us when it comes to golf. It’s the Grant Horvette Invitational. So it is a mixed team professional golf tournament pairing one player from the PGA Tour and one from the LPGA Tour. Love that. It takes place at Tuberon Golf Club in Naples, Florida. Uh the same venue that previously hosted the new defunct GBE or QBE shootout. I don’t know what that is. Nobody knows what that is. The format is unusual for pro golf. Over three rounds, 54 holes. Teams play three different formats. First round scramble. Both teams uh tee off uh then pick the better ball and play us. But we know what a scramble is. We love it. And then round two forsome/ alternate shots. Uh partners alternate shots playing one ball. And then the third round is which I thought was very unique and actually pretty fun. modified four ball, both tee off, then swap balls for the second shot, and then finish the hole with that ball. And the best score is the score out of That’s wild. What a wild move. Like you both tee off and then switch. That’s awesome. And we got a full field of uh 32 players, 16 teams. Uh only Tommy would call that a full field. And there was Jesus. Oh, that was good. Wow. Oh, there was there was some changes. Charlie Hall’s old partner, Daniel Burgerer, uh, withdrew. So now, uh, his replacement is Michael Brennan. But there are some cool pairings here like, uh, Lydia Co and Jason Day, Nelly Corda and Denny McCartney, uh, Jessica Carter and Bud Collie, uh, our girl Brooke Henderson and Corey Connors. Oh, develop the show. Tony Feno and was that Lil Lillia Vu and then uh Windham Clark and Lexi Thompson. So, how do they determine their pairs? Is there a who’s they and what does that mean? I I think they like ask each other like do you want to go to the dance? Like I’m already going to the dance. So Scotty and and Nelly could just be like hey one and one want to go like in theory, right? Just brush on everybody. Yeah, they can. They I don’t think they’ve ever paired together though. No, they hate each other. No, I’m kidding. Hot take a show. They can’t stand each other. Well, after the, you know, the whole wedding announcement, Gizmo, there’s just so much so many dynamics. Scotty’s a huge Gizmo guy. Gizmo ever. It’s cool to see uh Jessica Carter there in the feature pairings. Nelly Carter’s sister. Yeah, of course. It’s cool to see that. Some family ties there. It’s also great for Michael Brennan kind of swooping into another tournament. If we remember back to the Utah Championship over there at uh Black Desert Golf Course, the Bank of Utah championship, he was an alternate or no, I’m sorry, he was a sponsor invite. So, not even in the Standard Field and then shows up and wins the whole thing. That’s awesome. Does he get the check when you’re a sponsor invite like that? Yeah, I think so. I think he’s As long as you’re not a amateur. And now here he is again filling in an alternate spot coming into play. Do you think we’re gonna see two kind of specialty moments coming out of with Charlie Hall? Oh, they might win it. Oh yeah. I You know what? Early call for Charlie Hall. Is Is Nelly playing in this? Yes. Yeah, I got her. Yeah. I mean from the PGA. Doesn’t matter who she’s there’s some decent names that are coming out from the PGA too, you know. Jake Nap, Jason Day, Tony Feno, Windham Clark, you know. I mean, that’s Denny McCarthy, right? Yeah, that’s pulling some that’s a little bit of star some star power. I I will say though, the Windham Clark Lexi Thompson team does kind of sound kind of scary right now because Winnham Clark did have a heater during the first couple rounds of the of the hero. Would any of the guys that Rich just named that that you said are decent names for this tournament, would any of those guys be bigger gets for live than Sew Kim or No. Windom? I think all of them would be really. I feel I feel like Sew Kim’s kind of in that category though. You think all those guys are bigger than I? I guess when I’m car not Jake Nap. I don’t know. I’m a pretty big nap fan. Got a big comment on our on your videos. Yeah. Okay. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Dan Evans. Commenter on the show. Love it. Um but I mean like Tony Feno, I I feel like he’s a bigger name. Yeah. Yeah. Windom Clark. I think he’s a bigger name. Plus with that whole house remodel. Of course. The bed. We all saw the bed. I forgot about the bed. What is that thing? Like an Alaskan king or something. Jason Day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s true. I forgot you said Jason Day. I’m actually surprised Jason Day’s never even hinted at going to live. I feel like he would be the type of guy to flip over. Jason Day, big Melbourne guy. Did you guys see these uh these collaborations that have been going on with Melbourne? Well, Hanama Golf Clubs. Who? Hanama. All right. Yeah. Are they from like Honolulu or something? Yeah. Who knows? They have a set of Melbourne golf clubs that are retailing for $20,000. Yes. Yes. New sponsor for the show. Yes. Yes. I sent you the link and you were like, I can’t get the link to open. I sent it to you again and you didn’t get the link open and then he sent the link and then the link opened. That is true for that. Did that Did all of that happen in that order? Yeah, that sounds about Yeah, you guys have a side chat without me. I see how it is. Yeah, that that also it’s where it’s where I’m I’m making sure these guys are doing things. Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? Well, and our late night facetimes. Yeah. It’s like the three-way face. Good night. Good night. Three boxes. It’s like that. Always like um Yeah. $20,000 golf clubs. Pillow in the background. Here’s the question. If $20,000 golf clubs could make you a scratch golfer tomorrow, would you find a way to acquire those or scratch golfer doesn’t mean that much to you? It don’t mean that much to me. God, it’d be so sick. It would be so I I just I mean, yes, but like $20,000 is a lot of money. Yeah. Like, but would you make it back on the golf course? No, but that’s scratch money games. Well, so because here’s the thing, hustling. I’m so bad at golf, I don’t get into the gambling side of it very much. Yeah, but if you’re a scratch golfer overnight with $20,000 clubs, but I don’t know that I don’t know the game. I don’t know how much I can win. Like I don’t know like at what point where am I like going out and hustling? I I don’t know that game. So I don’t know like that’s for you to figure out. I mean like if you’re Yeah. I’m not laying down 20 grand without like Well, you don’t win it all in one hole. You bet like a thousand here, thousand there. Yeah. Or 100 a hole and then you’re pressing them in the whole thing. And can I can I get better than scratch? No. No. You just max out and you just live and enjoy scratch golf. I don’t know why I said really like this isn’t hypothetical. Really? Now this got crazy. Yeah. Now I wasn’t even thinking like the the way you guys were thinking of it of like trying to make money back with the newfound ability to play scratch golf. I was just kind of thinking, would I pay 20 grand to play for the experience of playing like all the time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz golf would be so much more fun. I mean, here’s Would it though? Yes. Oh, I would have to be if you went from like shooting a 120 to like snap of the fingers you’re shooting 70. That would be so sick. Yeah, but the the 70 would be the new 120 or vice versa, right? But if you knew that you literally in this hypothetical got to be 72, not 70 cuz there’s par 70s. Yeah, there all kinds of Yeah, here’s the thing. I’m probably far closer to scratch than the rest of us in the room. Way closer. I think I would still try and find the money to make that happen. It’d be sick. Yeah, my wife would be sick. Yeah. Well, you could monetize the crap out of that. Like, oh, dude. Just videoing you. This is what the $20,000 gets you, boys. What I want to know is uh does uh Jason Day show up to the Grant Thornton Horvat Invitational with the Malbond $20,000 golf clubs? Well, I would say no because could you imagine if he didn’t shoot well? No. Here’s the opposite. Okay. He would get worse to go to scratch. So, for him it’s actually a terrible proposition. Yeah. I went backwards to scratch. I’m no longer a plus golfer. Can you imagine that? $1,000 clubs. All right, here’s here’s another hypothetical, if you will. What happens? You show up to a forsome, a random force, and you see somebody with those golf clubs in their bag. Oh my god. Like, is that I mean, that’s not even a flex. That’s like I don’t I don’t know. I mean, feel like that’s more like FU money type thing. Yeah. Like, are you impressed? Are you blown away? Are you like almost like like do you think more of the the person or less? Depends on how they how good they play. If they’re really good, I mean, come on. Are we still in that hypothetical? Yeah. Are we still in that hypothetical? No, we don’t have to be. We don’t have to be. It depends on if they’re good or not. If they’re not good, be like, that’s a huge waste of money. Like, you kind of look at them like like you stupid, but then if they’re like an absolute stick, like, yeah, I get I get it. uh $1,300 nine iron. Does it vary sport to sport? Like would you pay 20 grand for a basketball that makes you shoot like Steph Curry? Uh like Yeah, cuz now I make hundreds of million dollars a year. But here’s the thing. I would never know. Like could you imagine I have that ability, but I don’t shoot basketball. So like I never found out. In theory, you’re one day with your your 8-year-old kid out there just kind of messing around. You’re like draining everything all of a sudden. Like I try and just like, “Hey guys, watch this.” Like you know when you’re mowing the lawn and you got to get stuff out of the way and it just goes in again like how does it always have you ever seen the movie Like Mike? No. With Bow Wow when he was lit like little? No. The kid from home uh Steuart Little. No, it’s it’s a basketball movie about there was a pair of Jordans that were Michael Jordans and he put him on and magically he like went to the pros as a kid. Could you imagine how good he would have been if he found LeBron’s? That’s what I’m saying. So, it’s like a remake of Rookie of the Year. Yeah, kind of. And Thunder Struck and the movie that it’s been done so many times. It’s a great movie, though. It’s funny though, they don’t use LeBron’s for any of those movies. It’s always Jordan. Yeah, cuz Jordan’s a shoe salesman, not a basketball player. I will say LeBron’s weren’t a thing when the movie came out. When the movie came out, LeBron, I don’t even think was playing ball yet. Are they a thing now? What? LeBron’s? Like, are people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for LeBron’s? People do, but that’s every shoe. Every I feel like his shoe market isn’t as expensive as It’s definitely not. Well, no, nothing is as expensive as Jordan’s. I’m on your side. No, no, I know. I was I was reing Jr. I was like, they always want to talk off court. They know they know who the king is. Wow. So, there’s that. I said I wasn’t going to take the Got him. Got him. Here’s the thing. It’s just like in fishing. You might not take the bait the first time, right? But eventually that worm comes floating on the high. Just cannot help myself. How pumped are we for this new hole for TGL? Very. I kind of am. They’re calling it stinger. Do you know why? Well, the only way to get through is to hit a stinger. Oh, that’s awesome. I haven’t heard about this new hole yet. Yeah, it uh just announced yesterday. And uh here’s what I love. I love because they have the ability to make any world they want when they have fun with that. Like they’re like, “Let’s let’s just invent reality here and make a hole that’s more interesting than anything you could find on a regular golf course.” Why? Because we can. Uh I love this idea though. Like I cannot wait to see guys out there and just firing stingers and trying to figure out how to get around and work this hole. I absolutely love this. I think it’s going to be so interesting to watch it happen. I like I love the lava hole that they have. I love anything that is just a different universe created. I the thing I is the lava hole. Is that the one that’s got the the two triangles? Um no. Oh, the lava hole is like a massive carry of lava and then if you’re off either side it’s lava. That was the one I played against Wes Patterson and we went to the back te’s. Yeah. And I couldn’t even reach the other side of the lava and he was like 92 yards past me in the middle of the fairway and I had like seven tries. I couldn’t get a single ball in play. We’re just It’s I will say though, Dan, this is a short par4. It’s only about like 400 yards, right? That’s kind of like a short par four. Yeah, for the big boys that’s short. I mean, for us, that’s pretty standard. So, like you can’t just like go after it here. Well, and what’s nice is it looks like you have the the big R if you got to hit the stinger first, not to hit the overhead ledge. Yeah. Then if you are straight center, it looks like there’s that huge rock mountain like that arch, the St. Louis arch that’s in there and then there’s a bunker right next to that arch. Yeah, there’s a lot going on. So like I mean you’re going to have to you got to you got to tweak that into the left hand side not to hit the bunker, not to hit the St. Louis arch. You’re going to have to lay up on a T-OT. I really look forward to seeing how because obviously they get practice time. They’re going to, you know, strategize and figure out how to play this hole to see is it just stingers away. Are we seeing guys trying to go up and over that and do some layup? Yeah. Are we doing like a like a hooking rope stinger through like the St. Louis Arch, right? Yeah. I don’t know. I think this might be a lefty advantage hole cuz if you could play a nice uh finally found one. Yeah. Well, think about it. If you could if you could hit not a slice, but a close to a slice where it’s very open and there’s a lot of movement going that way because I feel like a slice is easier to hit than a what? Draw. Yeah. Like a super draw. Draw hook. Yeah. So, if you could get it up and over because I don’t think you’re getting it over that arch. I don’t think that’s possible. I I think you have to like boomerang it in there. Real question, the pros when they’re at that level, are they able to hit a stinger with either a fade or a draw? Yes. Okay. I know it’s not fair. No, this has brought me to I can’t do it in normal hitting, much less this has brought me to like a a big point about TGL in general. And I’ve said many times on here, I didn’t really watch it last year. I’ve just seen clips. I just maybe saw one match, whatever. I think it’s so so different from every other sport, not just golf, because there’s so many other sports, like the NBA, for example, they’ll try to do something new and it comes off as gimmicky or weird, and the gimmicky stuff is usually poorly received. Here, the gimmicky stuff is what makes it what it is. Like, if they were just playing like Pebble Beach on the simulator, who would care like at all? But they’re playing these holes that you’ve never seen before, and the gimmicky stuff actually works for them. I think that’s really interesting cuz it doesn’t work for anybody else and it’s like this force of use of skill. Yes. Yeah. Now, are these these holes available when you play like sim? No. No. There’s c there’s sometimes you could play like custom custom. Yeah. But like I don’t think the TGL custom holes that they put out go up to your local simulator joint, but it is a part of like, you know, full swing in those launch monitors. I wonder if at any point there will be a partnership licensing thing where you can play the TJ Holes. I think that’d be fun. That would be That would be really fun. Yeah. We put one in the studio. Oh yeah. Or just hit into this thing. Just right off the walks into the water every time. Yeah. No. Well, you only get one try cuz after the first person goes, no one else gets a turn. Shatters the uh my favorite hole from last year was called the spear. The spear. That is the one with the big That’s the one with the double triangle. And it’s like if you go and try and push it, you got to be really straight with your shot. If you lay it up, then you’re super broad and you can lay wherever you want. But then you got a much bigger second shot than the whole thing there. It’s like a perfectly planned hole. I’m excited. I’m so excited. Is the quick draw. No, the quick draw was from last year. I’ve got some I’ve got some pretty fun TGL things lined up. Go on. Yeah. Still still kind of in the works. Nothing’s locked in. But I hate this. We’re live and can’t talk about it. I know. I know it. But I I’m potentially working on doing something right around the first match. Okay. Potentially right before the first match. When is the first match? Uh December 28th. I’m going to be in Florida there. I will be there. All right. Locked in. Lock 100% locked. We’re staying at Grams in Orman Beach through until New Year’s. We’ll be here. We’ll be here by the way. Yeah, we’ll be here. No, I’m 100% in. Yeah, these guys are going to be here sneaking in cookies and blaming me. We saw the crumbs go all the way to Denver. I’ll tell you, I walked in today and there was a massive cookie pile of empty boxes and everything on the coffee table over there. The thing is, you think they’re empty. Yeah, we’ve consumed a lot. Yeah, they might. On a side note, we might we might have to work on getting Monica a ticket as well. All right, we could see what we could do. Yeah. But then about a week later, I have another thing coming up that is in partnership with one of the TGL sponsors and TGL and like a whole other thing. Is it a major brand? Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know what? Here’s what I’ll do. I’m not going to say everything that’s going on, but here’s what I’ll say. If it comes together, free plug for them in case it doesn’t come together. I free free plug. I’ll hand it out. The Genesis Car Company, they are a big sponsor. TGL, when you’re there, you’ve obviously seen it. They’ve got cars like in like the lobby area. They’re big deal. Cars are so nice. Yeah. Yeah. Again, double double the free plug. It’s like the It’s like the Infinitities except even nicer. Like more luxury. Now, you guys might I have a question about that. Are they like the higher up of uh Hyundai’s? Cuz the by my house, we have a a Hyundai dealership, but it’s also a Genesis dealership. Yeah, I think so. It’s like the It’s like Toyota Lexus. Uh, you know, it’s like the upgrade the Hyundai’s, right? Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, there’s something coming together. I had a great conversation with some folks over there about doing some stuff with Genesis TGL. So nice. Yeah. Anyway, that’s all we’ll say. Uh, we got a game. I have a spinner on my screen right now. Spin to see who goes first. It’s a snake, right? Snake draft. Okay. All right. What does that mean? If I get the first pick, I also get the last pick in the second round. So, it’ll be like me, you, Rich, Josh, Josh, Rich, you, me, me, me, you, you. All right. And once a movie is picked, it’s it’s gone. It’s done. It’s gone. And we’re pick four movies. We’re each picking four. It doesn’t have to be everything on this list. You can take some out of spinning. Oh, I like the sound effects on the wheel. That is nice. Oh, J.R. J.R. Josh. JR Josh. First pick. Oh, I kind of don’t want first pick, actually. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Go on. I’m taking Alf one. I think that’s a lot of people’s favorite. And I’m not a big fan of Christmas Story. I hate you. Um I hate you so much. Uh I like lampoons, but it’s pretty overrated to me. Quit. Uh so I’m going to I’m going to take off one. You don’t like that pick? I hate it. Oh, because you want it. That’s my favorite movie. But you agree. That is the one. My favorite movie of all time. Wait, movie or Christmas movie? I’m gonna I’m gonna go Christmas movie, but um that is tough because you took my right first pick also. Thank god. Um I’m I’m going full-blown classic Home Alone one. Okay, that is a great one. Yeah, I I do like that. I’m respecting both the picks. And then the next pick will be between me and you. All right. I’m going to rock your guys’ world with this draft. Wait till Wait till you see what I got on my sleeve. You’ll see the rest. See you coming. I am taking Christmas vacation. Okay. Yep. National lampoons for you uh layman’s out there. That’s uh that is Christmas Vacation is is I I think that could have been two overall. Which one’s the one that takes place in Indiana? That’s Christmas story, right? Uh Christmas Indiana’s Christmas story. Yeah. Ham in Indiana. Yeah. Is it really ham? Yeah. Well, it’s not. They call it ham something. Yeah, it’s Hammond in Indiana. That’s where the writer is from. I’m pretty sure Christmas Vacation takes place in like Rockford or something, right? Isn’t it somewhere in Illinois? It is Illinois. It’s not Rockford. Um I think it’s I think it’s just like Planefield. It’s just a It’s just a undisclosed It’s in Home Alone Chicago, too. Yeah. Yes, it is. Wow. Everything’s just set in the Midwest for Christmas movies. So, who’ you pick again? What did you get? Uh I picked National Christmas. My first pick. I’m going Christmas Story. All right. because that’s just that’s that’s classic. And then my second pick, Polar Express. Oh my god, you can have that. You guys don’t like Polar Express? I like Polar Express. I’m not a Christmas Story guy. I mean, I I like Christmas Story from the nostalgia. Like, it’s been around forever. It’s on all Christmas day. So, I like to let the the 24hour marathon just run. Yep. Just keep it on. Just keep it playing. Yeah. Rich, Europe. Uh Europe. Asia. Actually, I I’m I’m glad this one kind of fell this far. I’m going Grinch. The original. The original one. Uh, no. The one with Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey. Yeah, that is the original. No, it’s not. There’s a cartoon is the original one. Really? Jim Carrey is the best one for sure. Okay. In my head, that’s the original one cuz there’s a new Grinch that came out in like 2018. I don’t know if I’ve even seen that. I haven’t. Neither have I. That’s why that’s why I was like a No, there’s one that’s from back in like the 40s or 50s. Dr. Seuss is Grinch. It’s uh the I actually went back and forth whether do the cartoon or the movie. I went with the movie. All right. Um quite honestly, when this movie came out, I saw it in theaters and it to me was one of the funniest movies I’ve ever seen in a theater where I was laughing out loud. Bad Santa. Oh. Oh, that is such a great pick. Wow. Call me Santa. So, it’s gonna come back to me. Actually, that was that Santa. You get two picks. I do get two picks. Um, it’s not fair. Okay, I’m going to take the first Tim Allen Santa Claus. Oh, that’s a good movie. And honestly, two and three are fine, too. But one one in my opinion is the best one. Agreed. Um, when he first becomes Santa, of course. Uh, and then for the my third pick here, I already know what my fourth’s going to be. And like I said, I’m going to rock your guys’ world with the fourth one. But um I got to have a cartoon in there. So it’s got to be I think it’s got to be Frosty for me. Frosty at three. I think you got to have a cartoon. I don’t want to go all I feel like Frosty is overrated. I’m not hating on Frosty. I’m not hating on it. Or no, God damn it. Whoa. I’ll tell you guys at the end. There’s a lot of regret. Yes. I thought of I don’t know that I like Frosty that high. I thought of a cartoon I liked better. That’s I feel like I definitely have better cartoons. My number three pick is still there. I’m happy. If one of you guys pick it, I’m be But continue. Well, I would say I’m kind of back and forth here, but I think I’m going to have to take Home Alone 2 since I have Home Alone one and they go so well together. They do. Yeah. New York City. I don’t know if I love that. DJ’s in there. I’m I’m building a collection at this point. Yeah, it’s fair. That makes my pick so much easier. I am definitely going with Die Hard. I thought you were gonna take the cartoon Grinch. 100% Die Hard. Wow. I’ve never seen it. Oh my god. Wow. Like I feel like I feel like at this point you’re intentionally not watching it just so you can be the guy that says, “I haven’t seen it. Welcome to the party, pal.” Like I mean, you know what I mean? My third pick, Buster. My third pick. When I was a kid, I watched this thing probably over and over again. We’re going Arnold Schwarzenegger. Jingle all the way. Give me Turbo Man. J. And then I’m Dbo Man. And then I’m stuck between two. One of them’s not on the list, but there is one. You made the list, right? Yeah. He intentionally left it off so he could leave it as a sleeper. I’m I’m in between two. Uh there’s a Muppet Christmas. There’s a second Muppet one that’s I think a little bit older than that one. Then the Muppets Christmas Carol and then Charlie Brown Christmas. I’m stuck between those two. Can’t even handle it. Uh uh. Go ahead. I missed what Jared did. He’s just I’m just Please make your pick. The Muppets really sad. Yeah, I just I just didn’t see that one. I love the Muppets, man. Actually, I don’t bl I I the the Muppets with Yes. The one with Fraggle Rock in it. Yeah. I’m going I don’t hate on that for a Christmas movie. I came in here really, really, really not wanting to vote Josh’s last after the Thanksgiving thing and he’s making it tough for me personally. This will be easy. Um, you got one more, right? Yeah. So, I’m going to go ah screw it. I’m going Charlie Brown Christmas. That’s the much better choice. Much better choice than I was hoping he was going to pick up. It is a good Oh, is that what you were trying to do? Talk him into muppets? There’s no way. No, I was just making a statement. For nostalgia purposes, I I love it cuz it’s I mean, of course, there’s I think there’s Sesame Street characters in there, but that’s all Jim Henson and all that. All his creations are put in one movie at some point in that one. So, that one is a good movie, but definitely I got to go with Charlie Brown. There’s no way. All right, Rich, what you got? Last pick. Uh, hold on one second. All right. Well, I don’t want to give it up. I’m not going to. But there’s I My next pick is Is it up here? It is up here. Okay. But there was there was one You were pulling a wild card. I was There is a wild card here that I actually really like. And I think you might be the one that I’m going to pick at the end. I like it is really good. It has the rock in it. Oh, it’s not the one. Oh, okay. Uh, but I’m not going to take that one. I’m going to take Remlins. Oh my god, I love that movie. It is such a good movie. Did you see the second one when they’re in the mall? I did. The first one’s the song better. I love I feel like the Gremlins are like the old school minions as far as they talk. Like they’re all like one little syllables. You can kind of make out a little. There’s rumors that they’re making a new one. Minions or gremlins? Gremlins. Oh, nice. What do you not know the rest of the I don’t like them? What are you going to say? Home Alone 3. If you do, I’ll vote for you to win. Home Alone 3 is the worst one out of the four that they made. No, there’s five of them now. Damn, there’s so many good ones. There’s not so many good ones. They’re just someone ones. I don’t know. I The rest of these suck. Take prep and landing. They don’t. What? If you know, you know. Um I I don’t know. Well, I guess all I got left for me is Santa. Whatever. I’m going Santa Claus 2. All right. I like that. I will say I like that story when it comes to like he needs to find Mrs. Claus and but three is better with Jack Frost than two probably, right? No. Three is so bizarro world by then. It’s already he’s Santa Claus. Yeah. They make a multiverse Santa a rose ladder is such good writing. That is it is. It is. It is. Um you sign the contract by putting on the suit. We haven’t had a bit of controversy yet as to what a Christmas movie is. And unfortunately I’m going to have to end that streak. I’m going to take Rocky for he fought Drago on Christmas. I hate to do it, but he he did fight Drago. Hold on. I’ll make sure. Wait, are we going off board here? No, we’ve been allowed to go offboard. You’re allowed to go off board. That was I thought we were staying on board. You really think you weren’t allowed to pick Christmas with the cranks if you wanted to? I I I literally thought the game was to stay on board. This is terrible. It’s a good Come on. Yeah, I will I will confirm Rocky 4 is a Christmas movie. Thank you. Just as much as Die Hard is. It’s the best Rocky movie. Everyone knows that. Die Hard Die Hard is more of a Christmas movie than Rocky is. They’re both movies that were not meant to be Christmas movies, but take place in the Christmas season. Correct. I mean, the whole starting scene is they’re at a Christmas party. Like, he fought Drago on Christmas Day. Wow. That’s That’s such a like a deep call. Yeah. Right. Mhm. I told you you guys were not going to be happy with my last pick. But it is the best Rocky movie and it’s undeniable. First Rocky’s the best. All right. So, um, are we are we taking votes here? Yeah. Can you give us a rundown? You’ve been writing them down. All right. Yeah. Um, well, let’s see here. J.R., you’re the first picker. You had elf, Santa Claus one, Frosty, Rocky four. That’s a demon four. That is a demon four. That is a demon three. The fourth is a non like just a terrible pick. All right. I’m not counting Die Hard then for you. All right. Um the only one. Home Alone one, Bad Santa, Home Alone 2, Santa Claus 2. That’s what I got. Strong start that faded off hard at the end. Yeah, last two were bad. Home Alone one and two are so fun to watch together. That’s all I’m saying. Can you read that off again one more time for me? Uh, Home Alone, great choice. Bad Santa, great choice. Home Alone 2, great choice. Santa Claus 2. I thought we had to stay on board. I literally thought that was the rule here. What would you have picked? Nightmare Before Christmas. I wasn’t even brainstorming. It’s a Wonderful Life is better than Santa Claus 2. I’ve never seen Nightmare Before Christmas. All right, Rich. Christmas Vacation, Grinch with Jim Carrey, Die Hard, Gremlins, and Josh. What’s funny is those picks are probably the ones that I actually watch the most in real life. Like, nobody picked like out of everybody’s picks, out of everything so far, those picks. Well, with the Elf exception, Elf is my number one hands down that I watch the most. Um Josh, you had Christmas Story, Polar Express, Till Men, and Charlie Brown. Oh my god, this is so tough for me if Who’s the worst? It’s called Jingle All the Way. The Polar Express. Yeah, I just wrote down Terble Man. Oh my god. Your number one customer. Do we want to do the worst first? I can’t decide who the worst is. But do we do like the one, two, three, and we all? That’s what we’re gonna do. Yeah. Hold on. I don’t I don’t have mine yet. Jr. was Elf, the original Tim Allen, Santa Claus, the Frosty Cartoon, and the best Rocky Movie, Rocky 4. Dan was Home Alone, Bad Santa, Home Alone 2, Santa Claus 2. Okay. I was Christmas Vacation, Grinch with Jim Carrey, Die Hard, Gremlins. Oh, Grinch with Jim Carrey is carrying for you. Then I was uh I was Christmas Story, Polar Express. Uh the Elbow Man Jingle All the Way and then Charlie Brown. Christmas Story. Good. Polar Express. Not what was your other two? Jingle All the Way. Really good. And then that’s low on my list. And then uh Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown helps it a little. Okay. You know, when you have kids, there’s so many times that like movies are playing on the thing in the back and so you’re driving just listening to these movies. My kids um watch Jingle all the way like throughout the year. The amount of times I’ve heard like these Arnold Schwarzenegger lines being delivered and him like in Simbad fighting for the just Yeah. I I don’t know what the movie looks like though. You never seen it. It’s a great movie. It’s a great movie. Do you know on a side note what would be fun to I we can’t do the research on it right now because it would take too long but in the post editing to see who has the most views like so Elf has been watched this many times this has been watched this many times like that’s a great question right well which one’s the oldest is the old story would carry so hard the fact that it does 24 hours every year right alpha is going to carry really Lampoons is going to carry home alone is carrying heart express. Maybe maybe it’s because we’re younger, but Polar Express to me like if you asked me what are some of the biggest Christmas movies, I would have said like that’s one of the biggest. I I saw that in years. I for some to me like the the animation of Polar Express, everyone looks like they have like a physical disability. No, I’m not saying I it’s like my favorite Christmas movie by any means. I’m just saying it is undeniable. I don’t know what that is. I can’t look at it. It is weird. It’s It’s definitely odd. What? Are you not like the one kid? Wait, Nightmare Before Christmas, I think they have some physical disabilities as well. Looks a little more normal to me. You know, are we uh Wait, isn’t Nightmare Before Christmas a Halloween movie? You’re thinking of Nightmare on Elm Street? Oh, the Nightmare Before Christmas. It’s It’s considered a Christmas movie, but it’s like set with Halloween type of vibes. Oh, it’s the Halloween characters celebrating Christmas before Christmas into it. Yeah. All right, we ready to vote? Um, this is I mean I know we’ve only done two of these, but this is the toughest one so far. This really is because like everybody has like some decent stuff and then everybody has some stuff you couldn’t pay me to watch. Which one on mine? Um, what was your third pick? Uh, third pick was the jingle all the way. Yeah, I’m not watching Frosty. I’m going to go I’m going to go clean out the garage that’s coming on. It’s very short, I think. Is it? Well, that helps. Just get it over. Exactly. Three, two, one. Wow, it’s a tie. Two two. Are you Oh, two on you and two on D. Wow. I don’t really know what we do in this scenario, but that’s what it goes up to. Do we debate off of it? Um, my thing I couldn’t get over your other movies were not strong enough to support having two Home Alones in my opinion. Bad Santa though. I I’ve seen it maybe one time. I’m not familiar enough with the program to give a hot take on it. I mean, it’s definitely an the only adult Christmas movie that was chosen on the board. Yeah, cuz Christmas with the Cranks wasn’t on the board. Death to Halls is on there. There was the only There’s the only one. It wasn’t chosen, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I don’t know. I feel like my picks are stronger than Dan’s. Yeah. Well, you would. Rich, you picked Polar Express, which is garbage, and Charlie Brown, which is garbageer. Whoa. All right, everybody needs to cut to JR. tried like, “Hey, Rich, pick me. Pick me.” No, no, I was saying, “Look at us.” Cuz we didn’t get picked. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. I was I was in between you two for the best. I was in between you two. Uh cuz I was in between all three of you to be honest, but I knew Rich wasn’t voting me, so I figured I’d vote you two. Of yours. Uh Christmas Story and Turbo Man I do watch annually. Yeah. I do not watch Jingle All the Way every year. I haven’t seen it in years. Um, oh, that’s what it’s called. Turbo Man. I’m like, wait, which one’s that? Yeah, which is Turbo Man’s the toy they’re going after in the movie. Yeah, Polar Express is is just the bottom for me. Terrible. It couldn’t get worse. See, that’s a different generation gap. That’s a generation for me. Polar Express is carrying his. Like, if even Polar Express, it would be so easily him. It wouldn’t even think. I’m surprised I wasn’t a first round pick. Well, I am now that I know they hate it. Yeah. Well, I’m not surprised. I never wanted it. It could still be up there and I’d be fine. 100%. I’m happy I didn’t pick it now cuz I absolutely would have. Are we voting best now or are we just doing worst? Yeah, we could vote vote best. Yeah. This is going to take me a minute to think, too. I can’t vote for Well, you can’t vote for yourself. Yeah. No. Well, I mean, you’re you by fault are voting for me. I don’t know cuz you just voted if you Oh my goodness. I’m between you. I It was close between all three of you for me. I just had to think about like Rich is campaigning for default votes. Yeah. Wait, wait. Why is it a default vote? In what way? Oh my goodness. I could tell he likes my movies better. What do you mean? You could I don’t like how either of you are approaching this campaign here. Well, I mean, I voted that his are the worst. So then I’m like, how do you not I want your best 10 seconds of of trying to convince me to vote for you. Go Joshua first. Mine’s on 24/7. That doesn’t really do anything. Keep going. Just one movie. The Christmas story. Uh, Polar Express, Polar Rising, literally the word play. Jingle all the way. Everyone wanted a Turbo, man. Indeed. And then Charlie Brown. You can’t go wrong with any Charlie Brown movie. Yeah, you have a you have a weak star, but your role players are really good, Rich. I mean, uh, Christmas Vacation to me is almost as iconic as A Christmas Story. It is. I mean, they are neck and neck as far as I think Christmas Story is more for kids. Uh where Christmas Vacation is more for adults. Full. Yeah. Ex. Exactly. All of the, you know, he’s a Blackhawk fan. Hey, that’s a big tree you got there. Where you going to put that? Bend over and I’ll show you. That’s an awful thing to say to me. I wasn’t talking to you. You know, like So, you do have one good one. So, yeah. What about the other three? Um, the other thing too, in order to make your Rocky 4 valid, you have to vote for Die Hard. That is a valid argument. But also so your your entire squad is but null and void unless you vote for that. I am petty and you immediately called mine out. So I’m just saying I will Well, we have to vote. So All right, you guys ready? I don’t say anything. Three. Wait, what was Dan? Dan was Home Alone. Home Alone. Bad Santa. Santa Claus. Santa Claus. Santa Claus. You were um Elf Santa Claus one. Frosty and Rocky for Yeah. All right. Okay. All right. Ready? Yep. Three, two, one. It’s a There’s no winner. One. Crazy. It’s a Christmas miracle. Here’s what’s funny. We age grouped and you guys age group. Yeah. I guess that checks out. Yeah. Yeah. So older, wiser, we’re stronger. We know more younger, sharper, everyone wins. I will say your elf and Santa Claus were very strong starts. Yeah. You know, you didn’t like I tried to get cute at the end cuz you love Rocky 4. I’d assume like as if I didn’t say it was a Christmas movie. This is just a regular movie draft. Rocky four is a banger. I I’m not saying I don’t like the Rockies. I’m more of an over the top guy. Is that the one where Apollo dies movie? Come on. Is that Is that the one where Apollo dies? No. Well, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That is the one where Paulo dies. Where Drago? Yes. Yeah. I don’t know. See, that’s where I messed up. I thought for sure I was in a room of Rocky lovers. I love Rocky. I don’t know what about me. Adrian, I mean, I feel like you guys are the age group of Rocky lovers. And then Yeah. I mean, Rocky’s good. It’s just not for me. It’s not like interesting. Like, I like the Die Hard trilogy better than Rocky trilogy. Oh, wow. Well, or Gu Rocky four or five or whatever he’s got. Yeah. And plus the new remakes and All right, guys. That’s it. Please tell me you have nothing else. Yeah. Uh going back to the Kepka conversation. All right, that is it. 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