Casey White and Paul Krans join us at Maple Hill! | 2025 MVP Open | Practice Round F9

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Tournament: 2025 MVP Open
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[Music] Hello and welcome to the 2025 MVP open practice round. We are here in beautiful Massachusetts at one of my favorite places in the entire world, Maple Hill Gold. Uh you notice Julie is not here with us right now. Uh there’s a lot of things going on. There was some miscommunications about time. He’s going to be here in just a few holes. But in the meantime, we’ve got two other guests that are going to be on our show today that we’re very excited to announce and introduce. Uh both of them being locals, both of them being very beloved in the area, and also a couple players who are playing great. One of them is Steve Dodge. Thank you. So, hey, Steve, how you doing, buddy? Okay, so we’ll introduce the first one as uh a guy who’s been on the scene for a little while. Uh he has been playing really well lately. uh last couple years he’s really broken out I think and his name just happens to be the name of a disc golf tournament that’s Casey wide open get in here buddy what’s up yarm hey what’s going on buddy so happy to have you on here about time I know I promised him a year ago that we were going to have him here for MVP this year and you are here buddy we we made it happen so happy that you’re here and the other one is a player that I have wanted on the show for a bit and he’s been under the radar for those for the masses but Now he is not under the radar. Incredible performance last week. A local, an MVP sponsored player. Everything just came together perfectly for Paul Crayons to get in here. What’s up, dude? Boom, baby. What’s up? Uh, I don’t you tell me what’s up. Top five. How you feeling, baby? Top five is up. Yeah, I skipped my first ever top 10. Top four. Top four, baby. Fourth place. Huge putt on 18 last week. Three-way ply for three-way tie for fourth place. knowing what you had to do. You said the first time that you looked at scores the whole tournament was the entire tournament was last hole. Knew the pressure was on. Stepped up big time. That’s what this guy’s made of. This guy is full of heart and freaking accuracy for days. Smooth as can be. You’re going to find out today. Okay. So, we’re going to flip for um for doubles. Yeah. And the player who is paired up with Julie will get lone wolf until Julie arrives. Okay. And yeah, Cali. Yeah. Look, Cali Lone Wolf. I guess that people have different rules for it, different names for it. Um, we got a disc for you to throw. Yeah. We got Do you have it? It’s in the bag. It’s in the bag. Okay. So, we’ve got a um I think about to bring it up. Uh, no. No. Far left pocket. The R2 R2 zipper cuz it’s a really R2-D2. Zip him down. Yeah. Black room. This is good TV. Give me that. Yeah. All right. Show them what you got there. Gomez Pro PD. All right. So, this is the one I actually stole from our production last week because I thought it looked so pretty, but I decided change of fate. I’m going to let you guys have this one. This is the Patreon disc that you guys can win this week. So, thank you so much for joining our Patreon. Um, four round playoff. This is playoff number two. Really important thing this week is that the top four players, this is a playin to get into the Pro Tour finals. Um, obviously the points are doubled. So the players who are trying to get into that top 28 automatically qualify. But then the top four players outside of those 28 are going to qualify. So even if you’re in a hundredth place like I am, one good week is all you need to play into the Pro Tour finals. And so there’s a lot on the line this week. A lot to get to. Some changes on the course that you guys are very familiar with. I mean I am because of yesterday. Because of yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Some of them surprised me. Yeah. Okay. It’ll be interesting to get there. Well, then let’s go play disc golf and let’s talk about it. All right, first things first. Let’s flip for the teams. Egan, throw me a disc, please, sir. Is it bad to flip this one? Throw me a disc. No, please, sir. Egan, come on. Another disc. Keep them coming, baby. The frisbee soul. All right. Terra. Terra. Terara. Yeah. All right. First odd man out is Julie’s partner. Not me. Not me. Not me. Oh, it’s me. It’s you. No, it’s Paul. Oh, it’s Paul. Oh, okay. All right. Paul’s versus Talls. Me and Isa. Paul’s versus Talls. Right off the top. Bam. Nice ball, dude. Let’s go. Good rep. [Music] Doing a whole breakdown for hole one kind of feels repetitive because you’ve already seen it. If you’re a fan of disc golf, I think one of the best starting holes in the sport of disc golf. 868 ft elevated teapad across a pond into a field of Christmas trees. Trying to land on that road down there, opening up the best angle through the barn entryway, triple mandatory um onto a green that is created uh with a nice rock wall. It’s just gorgeous. It’s beautiful. It requires power, distance, accuracy, all of it. Um let’s go play some disc golf, baby. Can I give you the proper introduction? Yeah, let’s go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Ready? Yeah, I’m ready. 2014 Vibram Mopin champion and twotime table talk pie eating champion Jeremy Big Germ Coing. Woo. That’s my Steve Dodge impression. Couple of things, couple of notes. Thank you. By the way, four more time. It was Maple Hill open that year. It was the one year that it wasn’t Vibram or I think you might be right. I think it was the Vibram open. It was my first Elite Series event. I know exactly what the name of the tournament was. Yeah, I’m not even going to look it up. That’s too lazy. All right, but you spot on. No notes otherwise. Thanks. That’s fancy. That’s tall. Where are we playing out of the car? So, I need to warm up more next time. But So, we’re playing the par four. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we’re playing par four, baby. All right. Um, what was I going to say? Daddy, I would rather for the for the introduction there. I’m glad that I got the words wrong rather than the voice. That would be uh a lot harder to do. Oh god. It’s been a long time since I threw a disc on this hole this early in the morning. It’s been actually exactly one year cuz I did play in the proam last year. Where’s my camera? Hello. Let’s check out the Q-ine. I don’t know if anybody’s thrown one on Gomez yet. First shot of the day. What is it? The Q-ine DD3. Q3. Qline DD3. It’s our new heavy rim. Qline does. Oh, solid. You can just call it dismania gyro if you want, dude. Like, we get it. Nah. So, I get two shots off one. You got Yeah. Or two up shots. Two up. Or two. Or two up shot. Okay. Or two putts. You get you get one extra shot. Your choice. Your mic fell out. Talking quick. We’re off. What are you doing? I’m going to take another shot. Absolute mayhem. Another T- shot. Yeah. Wow. Wow. That’s a bold choice. Doesn’t even want to go double double through the trip. I would have thought that would have been reserved for an OB shot. I mean, this is a Paul Ular decision if I’ve ever seen. I am not tall enough to make it past those bushes. Not tall. Headwind. Fun. The number one problem with that shot was that he’s not tall enough. Wow. That might go in. It might actually. Oh, it’s way past it. It was on the line though. That’s absolutely gorgeous. I’m It was a shot. I thought I was going to say that was a bad decision. Oh, yeah. All right. That was a great decision. I would have just laid up. Yeah. No point. But you had two shots. You had a tough draw, dude. And I honestly the worst part about it is that Paul wouldn’t have really been able to improve your lie that much anymore. So no. Yeah. Right. I just needed one off of one. The talls and Pauls. Man, I want you to walk us through the emotions of being on for the first time on round three, the T-OT. Like maybe the night before knowing that you were going to be on lead card going into the weekend. What was that like for you? I kind of uh my my parents were out there and I kind of told them that I didn’t want to take it seriously, so just don’t talk about it. Oh, okay. So, I ended up reduced a little pressure, maybe. Oddly enough, I got 12 hours of sleep the night before. No way. Yeah. I slept for 12 hours. That’s cool. All the way through the night. Uh woke up feeling good and then I had food uh around like 11 and almost threw it up. Uh, so I was a little nervous that Yeah. But then I like once I got out to the warm-up field and and started throwing Yeah. Uh, I just felt so comfortable. I felt like I was meant to be there. Just another round of disc golf. Yep. And then hole one, I wasn’t nervous. Okay. Um, you guys were saying in commentary how you thought I was nervous with that putt, but I threw the putt perfect and just didn’t see the branch. Um, and which hole was that? I forget which one that was. It was one. It was hole one. Okay. So, I mean, overall, I wasn’t nervous. And then the final day, I mean, a lead card on final round. Uhhuh. You’d think that somebody would be shaking out of their shoes, but I was like so comfortable. I didn’t get nervous until hole 18. Some people are built that way, man. And it’s not not everyone well can do It’s also the fact that I could have just been using the nerves to fuel me instead of that’s what so that I think the great all say something on the same line is that being nervous isn’t a bad thing, right? Being nervous is a is one of the greatest strengths you can have if you channel it into the right way. Yeah. As long as you uh use it to your advantage. Totally. It just makes it so that you’re excited even more. I I if you’re not nervous, it I mean I think we can all agree that if you’re not nervous, it doesn’t mean enough to you. Exactly. Hey, Jerm. Yeah, we’re tall enough for this. Okay, cool. Okay, I’d like to just find mine. I need to focus. I’m going. Yeah. Do I need good? Uh, maybe. Well, to do I’m just I was messing anyways, but yeah, I know. Nice shot. Thank you, Skywalker, too. Casey, you’re one of those always be promoting kind of guys, aren’t you? I mean, I’ll promote my own disc as much as I can. Yeah, it wasn’t my own disc, but I had to prove I had to prove that the tilt was a useful disc, and once I did, it like took a hiatus, but it’s back. Is it back? It’s been back since I started throwing it upside down in tournament. Okay. Do you This is You think it’s a driver? It’s probably not a pyro, is it? I mean, a pyro could work. You want to throw my tilt? No, I’m not going to throw your stupid tilt. This is a perfect shot for it. Safe. Yeah, but you know what I was trying to do though? You You’re trying to do the thing. I was trying to do the making thing. Make eggs and bakey. And if I did that, heaven forbid that actually were to happen. Kicking down to the right. Oh, you’re toast. It’s an absolute toast job. You’re absolutely toast. There’s nothing you can do from there to get up and down. All you can do is like a real unfortunate and sanctioned play. Would be absolutely horrible for this new pin position. This would be we got absolutely. So, the bad thing about the mulch that they put down or how thick it is, it gets like it hits the ground and bounces left every time. Uh-huh. Going over the rock wall on a hiser angle like forehand. Yeah. Or sorry, going over the uh the wood wall is like it happens almost every time. Yeah. Okay. It’s so weird. Did they have this name for this last year? Yeah, they it was a reveal on Wednesday of the before the event, bro. Like they had like wrapping paper and everything and it was like announced that the day before the MVP opened the barn door would have a name. What’s up Cam Rose? I had no idea that they named it Chip Gate. That’s great. That is a good point. Oh, hate to see it. So, is anything on the line for this doubles, singles, double doubles match? Yeah, a little bit pride. Okay, which honestly can’t be valued monetarily. Or maybe it can. I don’t know. You tell me. two uh the uh winning team gets to pick a charitable organization really to donate $500 to. Oh, really? So, if you have a cause that you like by winning, you get to have some money sent that direction and yeah, support it in a little bit. All right, cool. You’re you’re now a player who’s firmly in the mix almost every tournament. Cashing nearly every time, which is noteworthy on it’s very noteworthy I think to cash. Um what what is it? What’s changed? Uh maybe a little bit of peer reassurance or not really reassurance confirmation like Matty O and Simon and just like you know the big dogs that I’m really really close with that have basically looked me straight in the eye and being like you got it. Why aren’t you doing it? Yeah. And that was like 2023. I was like high expectations, low results, and like kind of like questioning everything. Yeah. Sure. And uh just like flipped a switch after a short conversation with Simon uh at right before the Portland Open and got like top 25, which back then I like I mean the fact that my first top 25 of the year was in June was a problem. And uh it was like ever since then it was just like a little more belief, a little more confidence, a little more just like trusting what works and and stop focusing so much on being like I don’t know as abstract of a spectacle and just throwing the shots with boring golf, you know, making putts. It’s what we want to do. You’re able to do it. you know, and there’s it’s like a humility thing as well of like I know I can make this putt, but I know I probably shouldn’t. And like I reached a point in like 23 that I’m like, well, you know, there’s no point in being out here if you’re not going to try and win and try and make everything. And I was like four putting all over the place and just like running random things. And so now you’re playing golf. You’re saying you’ve turned into a golfer. Yeah. And like I turned into a golfer once I hit the tour because I had to make money and then money got a little more comfortable. So that’s when I started to like expand my reaches of capabilities of throwing a disc and that’s where it kind of got like iffy on the scoreboard. Sweet. Hole two. We got a nice par three to set the pace for the next few holes. It is a 381 ft par three. We have a lot of OB on the right side of the fairway. Um tree bunkers on the left. And basically, you’re just trying to throw a backhand uh slow turn to the right, fade back left, and get it to circle one. Hopefully, I’m assuming Germ is going to go forehand. No, actually, the trail has changed my trail backhand. So, it’s a very favorable backhand. It looks like a forehand hole, but it’s not. No, it’s definitely not a forehand hole. I’ve gone forehand on it many, many years. Yeah, that’s very interesting. I never really I’ve never really had a disc like this with any of the companies I played for that can late turn as comfortable as it this turns for me. Right. I’m not saying it’s always great, but it’s my favorite fairway driver I’ve ever thrown. I think if you can call it that. Beautiful segue to uh an absolute shank job. Oh, it got through. Yeah. All right, we’re in bounds. Hey, way to play it smart, Jerem. Thank you. Just keeping it safe for my partner. We got the little ace run par three from there. Green light now. Yeah, we’re in bounds. All I needed. Yeah, Casey. Yeah, let’s go in the hole, baby. I’m not Calvin. My god, that’s so good. But I am Casey White. Nice shot. Thank you. Oh, that’s Skywalker. Germ, are you Let’s go, dude. Are you ready to see the most overstable trail ever made? Smiley had the most overstable trails. Bro, I want to overstable. Well, that’s what I’m going to trace. Hopefully. Hopefully not. Isn’t that what your neutron trace is? Kind of like a I’ve thus trace a lot. I’ll probably throw it out here quite a bit. Yeah. It’s the beef dog. Well, you Oh, that is nice. A bad angle. I got to throw another. All right. Go for it. Should probably write my name on it. Oh, come back. Yeah, that’ll work. Yay. So, there’s a a proam going on today. And um typically Jomez has the 9:00 A.M. um obviously AM uh slot reserved for the practice rounds. And this is usually reserved and slotted for the DGPT or from the DGPT. that we always for Tuesday mornings I guess because there’s so much going on in a short week with a four round tournament that there’s other things going on and so there was originally a 9:30 tea time announced and then it got changed to 8:30. So we’re taking off earlier today than we normally do and that communication was a little squirly. So we’re going to give call Paul a break on this one. Not his fault. I barely even saw the message myself last minute. Dude, what a shot. Was that Did you go first off the tea? That was second. Okay, so Oh, you were reing as your Ooh, making good use of your second T- shots. Yeah, right. Let’s go, Casey. Yeah. All right, that was our uh You just get us there and I’ll put I’ll put them in the basket. We’re going to need a We’re going to need a Skywalker counter on the on the screen cuz there’s going to be a lot. What is a Skywalker? What is it? Uh 7502. No, no, no, no. Like what’s the the uh equivalent name? Uh well, it was FD1. Like this one says FD1. Okay. And then the brand new one that just came out, the Skywalker 3 says FD2 on it. Even though nothing changed, they just decided to rename the mold. And it happens to be my interesting mold that I built my career around. Hole three maple gold. It actually used to be on my Dream 18. This is a lefty that doesn’t have a sidearms nightmare. Uh it is a like high drifting with a little bit of timed fade back. Kind of a similar flight to hole two. Honestly, a lot more trees, less OB. Uh just any early tree hit is a nightmare. And anything that never hits a thing and goes through is always going to work out somehow. But it’s another Skywalker shot. Can’t lie to you. Oh yeah, that’s the early tree I told you you don’t want. It’s a shank slot, dude. Yeah, it’s the shank slot. The first player. Well, let’s not let’s not make that a real thing by saying it and putting it out there. So far, it’s kind of been the shank slot. Oh my god. Way to overcome that. Julie, Julie, thank you for your guys’ uh doubles. Doubles bogey. Is that has that happened before? No, we’re going forehand roller park job from there. No. Two putts. Nope. Two thirds. Are you kidding me with that? Did it hit the tree? Yeah. Yep. I was looking to wait to see it kick and I’d never He squared it and dropped. Oh god. Man, I I am turning 40 in like nine days. Oh, wow. Oh, I didn’t turn it. That’s the one to miss though, cuz now it’s going to go at least to par town. I need one more. Do I have to take the second one or can I still take first? No, you can pick option. It’s still best. That’s why I was telling you that you should have saved your the upshot on one again. I’m not tall enough. Your drive was fine. Your second drive made it work. I think he played it well. He’s just got to make that 29 foot putt, right? Yeah. Right. Or a 28 eater. Starting with the straddle for the day is no fun. I couldn’t agree more. Weakness on the putting green. I got to I don’t think powering down on me. I missed. All right. Well, so far. I’m not feeling the pressure from the other card yet. So, I think we’re good to throw. Do you think in any world that the shot could be a hiser flip, let it turn on its own, or do you think it has to be a force over stable? No, I think it has to be neutral on this hole. Neutral. Yeah, neutral. Flat. Are you talking about this hole? Yeah. That’s literally my shot. Is the the force over neutral? No. High hisiser and let it baby drop. Oh, so you try to do the heiser. Okay. I mean, I shanked. I feel like if you throw the overstable on Annie, this tree is the way I throw holes two and three the exact same way. Yeah, we’re not very far. We’re over here in the bad lands. What? What is that? Get the knocks out. Get the bucks out. Get the bird identifier book. Zoom in. Read it out loud for everybody at home. It’s a It’s a rosecrusted warbler. Rose crested. Jesus, I made that up. Yeah. Really? You don’t have to tell anyone that. Uhhuh. Casey, that was terrible. I had such a big gap to go through, too. I mean, it wasn’t easy because he’s No, that’s a easy shot for me, bro. I I I totally shanked it. Please don’t let us get a bogey here. Well, we are in bogey town. Yeah, this is so it’s like population two right now. All righty. All righty. This is an absolute clinic on what not to do on hole three. Yes, it is. Especially the T- shots. That is so bad. We show the most drastic examples possible. Do not follow our lead. Except do this. Oh, I knew that that was the one to miss. No. And I knew I missed it inside. Here you go. Oh, I liked it. I didn’t. Forehand roller was a play. Not ideal drive, but at least it’s a wide open approach here. It’s fluffy. But it’s fine. About to Andy Defrain this one, dude. Let’s I’m about to Adam Defrain it. Get No, they’re in high school with Adam. I don’t No, I’m talking about Shaw Shank Redemption. Oh, sorry. You’re right. Get busy living or get busy dying. Get the par. Get or get busy. Let’s go. All right, now I’ll try to show how impressive that was. Wow. Let’s go, Paul. Good putt, Pixelman. Double it up. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. You know what? I’m proud of that. Double up and give it to the next person. Nice shot. Let’s go, dude. Nice little more than that, homie. Nice, Paul. Thanks. Way to do it the boring way. Thanks. Hole four classic here at Maple Hill. Ultra downhill. Only 246. This is all about accuracy and touch. There is a little tiny wall on the back side of the screen that will slow down a disc that’s just kind of slowly bounding its way down the hill. Um, with the mandatory added here a couple years ago, it’s taken away the cheater forehand gap. So people are finding all sorts of creative ways of trying to break down the straightest shot you have in the game. For me, hiser flip forehand, but we’ve seen jump puts, we’ve seen tomahawks, we’ve seen thummers, rollers. We’ve seen it all. I’ve seen a roller. I’ve seen Jordan Castro just sling a driver sidearm, just close his eyes and pray it. I love this hole because of the creativity that people find with my favorite Mando on tour. Yeah, it is. It’s a good Mando. All right, let’s play it. Who wants to shank it first? No, no, no, no, no. It was the We’re rewriting that narrative. I will say this. Okay, we’ll rewrite it next time. I will say this in December last year when I knew I was going to go to MVP and I got the range and I started throwing it. You thought of this hole? I thought of this. First time I’ve thrown it with the disc and I am so disappointed in myself. That’s really funny. I could or almost the full year. The full year for that. Yeah. Here we go, Casey. Oh, yeah. Par is not a bad play here on, you know. It’s the first time I’m ever going to consider doing that as my real tournament play. I’ve always sidearm this hole. Is that your play to guarantee a birdie in doubles? I’m I’m practicing, dog. I will throw you into You think we ain’t making that putt? Oh, they put it on the drum. I just I’m doing the one play Germ did not say, man, backand flex. They had to put it on the drum again. See, everyone’s got to find a way to cheat the straightest shot in the game. Just throw the straight shot. I love the straight shot. I love it. Is that there, dude? I fluffed it. Yeah, but that’s, you know, Are you taking? I’m going to take two putts. You’ve wised up, my friend. I’m going to take two putts. Let’s go. No, I want another. I don’t I literally don’t even know what else I would even throw. I mean, like a hex is way too fast for this. I need another two. That’s all I want. I mean, honestly, a tempo is not a bad disc to throw here, but like you’re going to go long every time. You need two ranges. Uh last week at GMC was I was I was really good off the tea. I only threw like a few out of bounds the whole tournament, which is pretty tough to avoid. The putting was the problem. I had the least amount of bogeies in the event. Of all people. Of all people. Only two. You only had two bogeies? Yeah. On seven day. I took a quad, a triple, a double, and several singles. I had a quad on seven. Wow. This is eight. Eight. I went bogey bogey on eight. So, wait, are you talking about land? Of course I’m talking. I mean, quads could happen on eight at Brewster if it really got hairy. I I my second my T- shot was barely obisered out and then I went for it. Never came in bounds. Had to rethrow. Yeah. Flew out of bounds from there. That’s tough. It was brutal. Oh, good. All right. He’s got two. He’s got two. Make the correction. Oh, hate to see it. It’s like the worst. Seems that. Huh. Come on, germ. Yeah, I’ll putt, too. I don’t know if I’m going to do it like that. He like went hiser. I just kind of smoked it, didn’t I? Yeah, you did. Snap. Thank you, Jerm. We’re making a good team right now. No, no, no. This is a This is ham and eggs, baby. That was your drive. My putt. Hole five, par three, 262 feet. This one is very iconic, as is every hole out here. We go big shot over the water, crashing back into the right. Um, they’ve changed the OB on this hole many, many times over the years, but it seems like it’s back to its its original where it’s only left of the basket, water that’s out of bounds. So, basically, the play is to just throw high forehand if you got it and crash in to hopefully a part job. Let’s change the narrative. By the way, hole one T-shot was not a shank. No. So, we don’t we can’t associate that all the first throws have been shanks. That’s okay. There you go. Drop in. Yeah. Nice shot. Nice shot. Nice shot. Thank you. Somebody’s happy. Someone’s happy that they threw a good shot. Get off this kid. I apologize. Nice. I always think it’s so funny that people get so been out of shape about me talking about height. Like there’s some sort of advantage to being tall or disadvantage or what, bro? My knees are always pressed into the seat back against in front of me or I have to pay $250 extra. That’s not an advantage. I was making a joke, bro. No, I’m with you. I’m No, I’m with you. Like there’s a balance in this life and we need each other. You like, man, you’ll throw a one step out forehand on coverage and they’re like that’s why big Germans. When I personify shorter players as as such, it is honestly to bring attention to like the Okay. So maybe maybe there is some sort of inherent like understanding that taller people generally are able to create more power. So that is a positive for sure. I do recognize that there are plenty of strengths in having a longer wingspan and and a bigger frame. Not trying to disregard that. I recognize that that is a huge strength. But there’s also strengths in being more nimble, more agile, not being so clumsy like I am, you know? I mean, that’s a that’s a strength as well. So, there’s like there’s balances to it. And I think that it’s it’s interesting because people always give me such a hard time about bringing it up. And like when Emerson Keith talks about it, I don’t talk about it with Emerson Keith. He brings it up to me. He’s the one that makes all the short jokes. Yeah. And so, it’s like, okay, bro, like I if we’re comfortable with that, then we can go that direction, but other people aren’t comfortable with it. Yeah. I mean, there’s obviously differences between the advantages, but distance is such a huge thingu huge thing for the Pro Tour. I mean, even this course, they’re making it longer and longer every year. Yeah. And for me, it’s like I don’t know. I’m kind of limited by my by my length. But you’re still hitting 500. Yeah. Yeah. But that’s only because of my form. But just imagine like I’m a 6’3 guy with the way that I throw. I’m throwing 600 feet. But my question is, how many people like I’ve always heard that my whole life, bro, if I was your height, I’d be in the NBA, but maybe maybe because your drive to play as well as you play is such because you always felt like you had something to prove. Like once you’re 66, it’s you know, the the motivation changes. Like there’s a I’m saying there’s levels to this. I mean, I think that last weekend proved to the uh course design aspect of, you know, it doesn’t have to be distance to challenge everybody. I mean, I powered down on mayhem on everything. Yeah. So I I it’s about controlling the sport, man. And obviously distance is a huge part of it, but like I don’t know. I I just get tired of the narrative that like I’m belittling people by talking about them being short. That’s kind of all my intention. It’s to bring attention to the fact that with a 5’5 frame or 56 56 5 with a 55 and a half frame getting 500 feet controlled and discing down to hit these landing zones. I mean, it’s like it’s it’s elaborating on what’s going on. Anyways, that’s my that’s my soap box. I’ll get off that. The main message I’m trying to say is, and I think that most people do recognize this, is that like everything I’m talking about in commentary is coming from a place of love. I mean, the last thing that I would ever want to do is say something that is belittling the people that we’re showcasing on the channel. I did get a couple messages saying that Ger and Julie were clowning me in the my first ever drama appearance and I was like, did you get that impression watching it? Uh, I got a little bit of clowning when Julie says he looks little, man. He He’s such a little That was the first time that there was actually a joke about it cuz like my intention was like I Anyway, I you know what I own when you overexlain things, people get annoyed about that, too. So, I’m just leave it at that. I I own the shortness. I’m the shortest person with a tour card. Yeah, that’s something to be proud of. That’s cool, bro. All right, we’ve got hole six, the butt pucker shot on the front nine. It’s a sidearm for most. The backhand players can get away with it, but we’re looking at a slow right bend. OB right rock wall, OB left, pond early. Basically, anything straight without hitting is going to be a relatively easy par. potentially a chance for birdie, but anybody in the tournament should be happy with it. Just hitting the gap practice. No, no, I I remember exactly. I That was when uh shoing was a big trend. Shoe tricking freaking whole show. Show Show them the picture. You aced whole five 2014 right before you won, right? You I thought I knew a lot of information and then you aced again in 2016 right before the tournament. Hole five. I guess that’s right. That one 201 14. Yeah. No. And honestly, that is incred like genuinely put this man on the go throw jeopardy cuz right. I cannot believe that I didn’t get chosen for that. I got when when I It’s a Mattio on there and he killed it. I love that. Mattio played the game well. He was hitting the buzzer before the question was even asked entirely and I was I was giving respect to the question and I shouldn’t have. He was looking at the last word. The last word was like the dead giveaway clue and I was just like, “Yeah, I got outplayed.” But he was like, “Man, you got to be hitting that buzzer sooner, dog. Come on. Can’t be hating on me if I’m beating you to the buzzer, man.” That’s That’s what happened. Just throw. No way, dude. He’s got Steve Dodge. I got more. I got a whole list. I can’t wait. Oh, nice shot. Nice shot. Wow. We take those. We take those. You’ll birdie from there. Yeah. When I asked uh when I went to Japan and I asked them how to say nice shot in Japanese and they said nice shot. Like we just say nice shot. I was like, that’s not what I I was hoping to learn something, get culturally, but I guess I did get culturally uh educated, bro. I am absolute dog pile right now. Oh, absolute dog pile. That was terrible. Lower though. Imagine if it was lower how nice it would have been. I’m just I’m I’m I think I’m jacked up. I don’t know what’s going on. Yeah, I guess maybe I went too hard on the That’s just Okay. All right. Oh, yes. Come on, Paul. Don’t skip over the wall. Oh, boy. That’s some That’s some flavorful coffee right there. One and done. Or you tagging in the u you take one. You go. Can I give yourself two shots at I want to try this. I want to try it. Not my actual not It’s not an official shot. I got to see if this is good for Officially. It is a throw, but not an official throw. Bro, what am I doing giving you that disc? I think money. I saw your logo on it. I The fishing fireball is super good. The only issue is that to make that plastic work really well, they have to it just is susceptible to to getting dinged up and then changing before I’m ready for it to change cuz it’s like season of perfection is unreal. Glorious and then like one bad whack, right? It’s I mean that’s maybe maybe it’s like five or six bad wax. I played I played for years with Trevan when the Fision Octane was his everything driver. Oh yeah. Okay. I I’ve seen it happen before my own eyes of when one tree is too many and uh his whole tournament is Here you go. Nice. What is it? A blue jay. Blue J. Nice. I got blue jay feather thanks to the Mr. Birdman. Blue Jay belongs to Can you bring your binoculars or what? They’re set up on the tripod at Eggin’s house for backyard birding. Yep. Ready to to spot some birds. Did you stay in bounds at least? Yeah. Yeah. I’m I’m up here in this cluster on the left. All right. I can’t believe we have three drums in a row. Three elevated baskets in a row. Yeah. There might not have ever been a less makeable putt than this one. This is an absolute If this goes in, we we figured out a way to perfect the bank shot. He is right. All right, start off. We’re inside of Kraton Myrtle. They’ve zipped up the tent. All right, I think I think the only thing I can see is Let me get a knee pad. A knee pad. I’m going to go solder him turnover at it. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I went OB. No. Really? Yeah. I think I hit the last tree. Where’s the uh Where’s the uh fireball? I think it’s better. If the fireball’s in, we can take that one. You sure? Yeah, absolutely. That sounds cheating. Wow. You said provisional. So provisional that if the first one’s out of bounds, then I’m then I’ll use this one. Now use that long leg. Yep. This is the This is where height comes in. He’s not quite allows me to airball it a little bit better here. That’s incredible. Actually, it would be an incredible bogey. I Well, I squared the basket on on the on the thing. Are you going to do the same thing? Uh, that’s not where my knee is going to end up, but Is that better? Yeah. All right. He was footfalling all day long. What did he say? I said, “I’m going to make it for you.” Oh, so between those two is a freaking Andy Defrain. The the mayhem went out here by hitting a tree and the fireball went over the rock wall. Oh, the fireball went OB2. Yeah. All right, we’ll just take the fireball. Just here. Yeah, wherever. I’ll give it a putt. Of course, dude. Honestly, I should have just played I should I we should have never put you in a position to be I enjoy it. The lone wolf. I was more shots for me on camera. That’s actually true. All right, I went OB. Got to take a par putt. Nice. They don’t call the man Mr. Clutch City for nothing. Yeah, dude. These things are saving my life. You have no idea. I I haven’t tried an Electron Proxy yet. I’ve only tried really the Pixel. Maybe uh there the thing that I needed was I have such a push putt normally, but like on tour push putt is not so consistent half the time. So, I needed to keep it more on level with the basket. And with a three-speed, sharper, shallower putter, yeah, I’m able to like still do my regular swing, but keep it lower and it’s going to get there. I There’s a lot there I like about that. Hole seven. Uh, this is the second year of the new Tapad and new fairway on this hole. 422 feet. Um, and we have got a narrow gap here. This is a backhand turnover for few. Um, kind of a dream flip up forehand for those who have it. I don’t know what else there really is. It’s kind of this There’s that weird hiser. Yeah, I’ve seen people try that. That’s That’s ridiculous. That was absolutely ridiculous. All right, Gary Patton, take me to the promised land. Gary Patton, I got a story about Gary. Share it. Um, so he hit Colin Bailey’s car at the Rumble. We were all like doing like a shuffle or a disc with a disc and uh he was like panicking running around trying to figure out whose car he hit because he felt so bad. But word got to us first that Colin’s car got hit and it was Gary and my buddy Marcus across the whole tournament center goes Gary. You hitting cars, bro. And then he was mortified, dude. He was so he felt so bad. What was your friend’s name? Colin Bailey. No, no, the the guy who Marcus White. I I was kind of hoping that Marcus was going to go up and say, “I did it.” No. And just Okay. He called him out. Exposing him in front of everybody at the rumble. All right. We all We all have a ball buster friend. Especially up here. This is like I think this might be ball buster capital of the world. That would make sense to me. I think it’s got to be right. Hey, let’s get a first shot down. Hey, let’s do it. Huh? Nice par safe. Thanks. Way to go, Gary. Freaking Gary, dude. let you. God, that was so good. Straight. Straight. Not right. That’s the strategy. All I could think was if I’m going to throw a bad shot, I got yellow. The only thing I was thinking about a boy. Yeah, Casey. That’s one way to get an easy par, baby. Nice shot. I think that’s going to be better than you think. I’m messing, bro. I just had to say it cuz I I can’t even envision going back in on this one. That’s sick. I can’t envision going side. I’m sorry. I know. Well, I mean, I could if I really had to, but I don’t want to. Gosh. Let’s go, Paul. Turn that over. Turn that over, baby. Yeah, that’ll do it. Yeah, I’ll take that. I got to try a forehand. All right. This is just a fun shot, not a real shot. This is my last practice round here, so Yeah, me too. Your last practice? Yeah. Are you doing the mile marker tonight and then day off tomorrow? Yeah. Day off tomorrow. Oh, because you already played yesterday. I played yesterday. Yeah. You guys both played yesterday. Yeah, he did the MVP practice round yesterday. He’s doing two film practice rounds as his practice. Simon is not getting a single round. I know. Simon’s not playing a single. That’s my mile marker this afternoon, though. But I talked to him yesterday. He’s like, I’ve played the course before. I’ll be okay. Yeah, I understand that. But there’s like a couple things around here that I was like, wait a second. Post 17. Your discs change throughout the year. You know, he played 17 at the Cosmic. Who threw that? That was terrible. Yeah, that is true. I You know, the tournament he won by 20. Yeah, big term. How I only practice courses nowadays because my disc was so sick. Yeah. But yeah, what I only practice courses nowadays cuz my discs change in my bag. Yeah. Well, for me, practice this year has been more important than ever cuz I mean, I haven’t had a disc sponsor change in eight years. Yeah. Yeah. And so, learning the discs, learning the fairways with the discs is incredibly important to me. Yeah. But I mean, even if it is with a company you’ve been with in pri, you know, thrown the same discs you’ve thrown last year, you’ve hit a lot of trees since last year. Yeah. Which was the brilliant thing about Ricky putting aside his bag for Nevin at the Pro Tour Championship. Yeah. Imagine if we had bags for every course. People, I have uh I have a Lake Eureka disc. I have a I used to have a Maple Hill whole 14 PD until I retired it. I used to have a whole five fox run PD. Um, so you actually kind of do this? I do. I do. Well, every single course might call for a very, very I have a Northwood Black DD1. I didn’t know you had such specific discs for courses. That’s cool. And you just put aside for that. Yes. That’s awesome. And they wait until they’re called up for the right tournament. You should write the name inside the disc of which hole and what course. Nice. Good birdie. There’s a guy east. First shot, first putt. Yeah. Nice. That’s nice. I have East Coast Metal Roofing uh CTP disc waiting to go back to back. KCY wins the CTP. That was sick last year. Yeah, man. There’s a dude in Sweden who has he has this colorway thing. It’s not for the same purposes at all. This is just a style thing, but he has a yellow, green, blue, an orange, and I think maybe a pink, but he goes head to toe that color. His bag’s that color, and all the discs are that color. So, he’s changing his discs per round. But he’s all, and you guys know, someone knows who that is, and they’re going to tag him. But yeah, this guy, I’ve never seen anything like it before, but he literally changes his color every single round. That’s kind of interesting. Nice. When I uh when I first drive, buddy, thank you. When I first started playing Mo, I had a all red, white, blue bag. Yeah. And I had like the red, white, blue like for the Patriots. No, just cuz I thought it was cool cuz I had the red, white, blue bag. I started throwing red, white, blue disc. Yeah. And like the way that I would order them, it was red, white, blue, high speeds, red, white, blue, nine speeds, red, white, blue, seven speeds. And like I would need a new one and I would go to Marshall Street and I’d be like, “Well, I can’t throw this one anymore because they don’t have it in red.” And I need it in red. I had a all red bag when I started playing for Disc back in 2008. Yeah. And that’s actually like the best company to throw all red. Like their red their red discs are like the best. in 2008 2009 there was like the surge the first run surge first run red surge and then like I started I think that’s how it started for me was that there was like something that was kind of going on I’m not sure if it was true or if it was just this mythological thing that we all bought into but the red plastic had like a heavier die or more dense or something that it was more overstable and so all the players were going after the reds and so then I just decided to make the whole bag uniform. Have you seen the uh you I mean maybe you just remember the the surge with the thumb pad. Yeah, of course I a sure grip, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I knew the the football shaped Sure grips. Yes, the football shaped. That was my very first surge ever was a sure grip surge. I’ve never owned one. I just know those things are wild, bro. Welcome to the eight holes. 364 ft over water onto an island. It is just, man, it’s kind of a dream until it gets windy, then it’s a nightmare. But if you miss the island, there’s a drop zone long. It’s like maybe 50, six, 60 feet, something like that. Um, basically, whatever shot works for you. Forehand, uh, flex shot, hiser, backhand hiser, flex shot, whatever it is, you’ll make it work. Oh, Casey. Casey. That’s going to be wet. It’s actually dry and OB. I think that is a rare combo that you just nailed. Come home, baby. Come back. I like it. No treat. Don’t hit it. Yes. Nice shot, Jer. Nice shot. I’m guessing I probably shouldn’t throw that PD over water. Oh, we need to throw it at some point. Yeah, but like the shots that I would use it to ever lose our disc in the round. I think you should try it. Eight and 14 are the two PD shots on the course and that’s it. I think it has to be thrown, Casey. Okay. Don’t. That was not a good drop. That was not a good drop. He needs All right. Got to go. Second T shot. I don’t know, man. Two shots in the drop zone. What do you think? gonna hold up. I’m throwing a gift horse in the mouth here. Don’t worry, I got you. That’s what the expression means, right? That’s what that’s This is where I would throw it. So, I No, I’m messing with you. It’s a good place to throw it. It’ll hold up a little bit of wind, but it’ll flip up to just a tiny bit. You lied, Germ. Get there. Get there. That’s fine. That’s fine. Yes. It wasn’t lies. All right. Oh, it didn’t flip. Okay, I was a little surprised by that. Maybe I’m just weak. For all you fans back home, win this disc if it doesn’t go in the water. It’s not going to go in the water. It’s such a good run. Casey, what have you done? Big. Casey, what have you done? Dude, come on, man. I’m just throwing him low. We’ll get that one back. I I hope. And now with the black rim and then like kind of a clear milky center. It’s like not guaranteed we’ll see it, but we do have what’s the guy’s name? I forget his name. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. I I would have to say a a fair estimate is in the tens of thousands of discs retrieved from Maple Hill waters per year. Maybe. Honestly. Haven’t they pulled like over 100,000 discs now? What’s that? Haven’t they pulled like over 100,000 discs now? I thought I heard something like that. If they’ve actually had a have a count on it. I’m I wonder if they’re just like taking like a daily average when he’s out here and just multiplying it by the number of years or weeks or whatever. Yeah, it’s uh it’s two inches safe. Inch and a half safe. We want to take yours, Germ. Yours is safe. Yeah, it was first. No, you guys might have to take the first one to get rid of that curse. Get rid of it. Yeah, that’s what that’s exactly my mindset. You might have to take it to get rid of the curse. No. No way. And that was your second drive. Oh, that was a second drive. That hurts my soul. Driver. Contractually obligated to throw anything or MVP. or black rim. Exactly. Wait, is this one of those gyro dismania things? No, it’s not. Okay. No, it is not. We only have the DD3 and the FD so far. But overall, you you digging it? I mean, I think it works. Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s just a fact. Yeah. I mean, what what what more science do you need than 9 g more in the flight plate and n g or in the in the rim and n g less in the flight plate? No, it’s it’s it makes total sense. It’s just a matter of whether the gyroscopic uh proportion or ratio is done as such to actually give the disc what it needs in terms of drop or lift or carry or speed. Yeah. because the extra spin that you’re getting can be a great thing. Yeah. If the disc is designed right. Yeah. So, the the biggest uh obstacle I think was the integrity of the flight plate not being so flimsy. Yes. Yes. Right. And it took over two years to make one mold. Oh, they’ve been on it for a bit. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I will say the the thing that was the most fascinating about my trip to MVP to me besides seeing all the machines that they made and the automation that they’ve got going on and how impressive the factory was was grabbing a core before it had the over mold on it, right? And feeling how light it was and truly getting for a first time perspective of like wait once they put the outer rim on this, this will become a full weight disc, right? cuz that was when I first like realized like these the center part is so light there’s so much weight in this outer rim and uh even in grabbing a fision core was even more so. It was like basically not like right basically like 30 g of weight. Yeah. So it’s like then you really get to see how much weight is on that outside rim. It’s kind of neat. All right. This just in Paul Cran’s least favorite hole at Maple Hill. Hole nine. The par4. He’s referencing the par4. So we’re going to play the par five. Um, we got the new to 2023 Tapad. Same with the fairway. The old hole is like almost like completely perpendicular. The up and over shot is now full driver rip to then chip over the hill where our drives used to land. Um, the thing about the hole is the first two shots basically don’t change until you’re approaching either the par four or the par five, which ideally you land in the same spot for both. It’s either a 60 ft birdie putt or it’s a 300T uphill another fairway driver blast to the par five. Um it’s quite a dynamic hole and it’s a you know makes you sweat. Can’t let it uh can’t take it for granted. What are they doing? That’s where a perfect shanked trail could land. Perfectly shanked. I don’t know how to take that. I mean, no, I’ve already thrown enough perfectly shanked trails. Listen, I don’t got I don’t got Julie here to to make I know. He’s usually the one that keeps me This has been a fairly positive practice round. Thank you for that, by the way. It’s nice. It’s a breath of fresh air. Yeah. Isn’t it kind of relaxing sometimes? And there’s a good reason we’re not miking you up today, buddy. Simmer it down, floral. Now, I gotta say, the only only issue with this outfit is that it’s not actually a romper. Because when I saw him wearing it this morning, I thought I thought that Bucky one piece I thought that Bies had made a romper. A tropical floral romper. This is peak fashion is what this is. Did you mean to have the collar flipped over the whole round? Yeah, you’re right. I did. No, it was like inside it. Here, let me help you out, buddy. Come on, dude. I know your mom’s watching the program, too. They turn backhand. Oh, yeah. Come on. Flip. Flip. Flip. So close to turning. Hey, that’s that’s one of your more stable trails that you thought. No, that’s that’s not a that’s not a very stable one. Okay. That’s why I was kind of expecting it to keep holding and turning. I think he just got through. I didn’t hear anything hard. I was waiting to kick back to the right, but I never saw it do that. That’s too much flip. Well, that’s fine. Wow. Well, that’ll work. Now, it’s a I mean, since we’re going to the par five, I think anything that’s not early is in birdie position. Should have been this one. I know that now. It was that disc last year, though. So, Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Mhm. Oh, that’s a yank. Paul, this is a long hole. Look at that. On par on par f you should I’m pretty sure on par fives you get one extra t-shot. Huh? Just t-shot. No question. And then and then you get to choose approach. Approach or putt.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t. So you told me that after we walked. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was telling you while we were still Yeah. Walk me Paul. I got something to But it got through everything and Yeah. Yeah. You could take a You could take a second T- shot. the whole round you taking a second T-shot, but we’re just messing with you. Speaking of uh like whatever, putting discs aside for the same hole next year, same course next year, I think I might have the record, which is completely unofficial and no real way to keep track of it. Trying to kick that out of the ground like holes thrown with the exact same disc with the most years in a in a row. Come on, there’s no way you actually believe that. You don’t think that I have thrown the same disc on the same hole for the most years in a row more holes than anyone on tour currently on tour? Yeah. Well, okay. Sure. But we’re talking about like the history of disc golf and I’m thinking of like Mike Moser’s probably thrown the same flip up AVR for 27 years. Okay. I He actually just broke it on my channel at Pawpa. Broke it right. Really just come up with some random player random disc and then it actually be I have Mike Moser on my YouTube channel at Pawpaw. There you go. And he broke his AVR in half. Mine’s cut off. Yours is wonderful. Doing good. Or is it Is it Paul first? Paul Paul was going to go. All right. Split on. I got to take a second. Go a bit more stable flex line instead. Good. Good fix. Thanks. And good good footing, too. That’s right. Uh, we’re not trying to get across, right? Absolutely not. Okay, cool. We’re We’re playing par five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What you meant? Like across across like to the green? Yeah. I don’t know. That’s stupid. I know. No, I’m just trying to put this to that sweet spot for the short like 50 footer. Yep. That’s a little short, but it’ll do. Yeah, it’s pretty terrible. Yeah, range is really nice for this shot. This tree is a little It’s also really nice for hole four, bro. Teammates here. Yeah, exactly. This is probably a backhand shot, but I’m gonna No, I like it. Okay. Is that too far? Uh, it might be, but it’s a range, so who knows? I think you’re safe. Yeah, it’s a little scary doing that. The turnover is going to get that extra glide down the hill. Yeah, it was worth the risk. I need you guys to get some unlucky brakes now. I know. Wouldn’t that be great? What’s that? We gave We did everything we could to help you on hole three. Yeah. 30ish. Yeah. The par five bucket. Yeah. It got moved back even more. Really? I think it’s more than 30. Really? Yeah. It got moved back. Doesn’t look They really like maximized this hole, didn’t they? Come on. What a shot, Paul. Yep. Park job to now 30footer, apparently. So, all right. Ooh. Ooh. Oh, wet. This is one of those times when you want to throw the disc that you really want to throw and you know that if you hit a tree 25 ft up, it is just screwed. Oh, we don’t have a run up anyway. It’s one of those times that we’re wet 30. Oh, that’s I’m not allowing I’m not allowing any relief. I I wouldn’t his foot down. I wouldn’t if I were you. You soggy little Sorry, I shouldn’t say little. Oh, we got frogs. We got frog action. I would say little to friend of the frogs. The tallest. Okay, that feels pretty sturdy, but I think it’s too far away. This is a horrible Who threw this here? That was terrible. I mean, I maximized it, unfortunately. I should have There we go. Over there, bro. What happened to the top of my desk, bro? You take absolutely ruined it. All right, we’ll take that. Well, that’s great. You have to take it. Not true. Well, big germs throw in the bucket. Yeah. Well, at the last second I stand, I’m not going to go in the gym again just so it could carry water again. Yeah. Every water carry possible. I just don’t know where I’m going to get my footing in a place where the unfortunate thing. If you hit one of these trees and kick back, you’re not getting Actually, I do have one little island. Yeah, provided. Yeah, that was terrible. He’s on his feet. He’s safe. All right. No water. No water. Oh, that’s horrible. I mean, I was I’m not going to lie. I was a little bit worried about like you leaning into that front foot and then it just being like whoop splash. Yeah, that’s what I thought. Yeah, I’m telling you. I’ll say 15 ft. I’ll give it 15. I thought it was the old pin. I don’t think it’s 30. 30 seems too close, but I don’t know. I remember hitting a putt from that BM and thinking that it was like from downtown. If we start to lose now because you’re here, I’m What? It’s the PS versus the talls. Yeah. Paws versus talls. Come on, Brad. Casey, letting your boy show up late. I’m getting stung by a bee real quick. Hold on. What happened? I got stung by a lot of bees. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Did you get hit? I got one on the shin. You got stung. Move it up. Look at what happens when you show up, Paul. This is crazy. That’s a lot of bees. We need to tell somebody. Yeah, we got to get them out here. Yeah, you got me through the sock. How’s this? Make valid. He’s got a Patriot set. I can’t say what I want to say to you right now. That’s hilarious. God damn it, Paul. Hey Jer, how’ those how’ those Packers do? Panthers won 30 nothing, baby. Panthers won 30 nothing, baby. Let’s go. Beat by the Browners. Panthers 30 nothing. Let’s go, baby. Black. Son of a monkeyy’s uncle. I don’t even have I don’t even have to throw a shot. That’s actually kind of a nice little backspin. Very nice backspin. Awkward comebacker. I rolled back. Yeah. No, you get two putts, though, I get two putts. Yeah. Yeah, cuz you never got You didn’t get two off the tea. So, we’re going to give you two putts. All right. Be kind to me. Thank you. I’m trying to be kind to you. Nice. Way to go, dude. Thanks. He gets a T- box for the first time today. Let’s go. It’s been a minute since I got stung by a bee. Yeah, that’s not fun. I’m sorry that happened. That’s what just happened. You showed up and then the freaking bees swarm us. That is pretty crazy, dude. All right, that’s going to wrap it up for the front nine here. Uh we got a ulibberry. So, if you only watch this channel because of uli, you’re going to enjoy the back nine. Um so, we’re going to get the PS versus the talls in the back nine, but currently the uh the talls are at six. The PS are at four. Um, and so far not many changes or any one’s whole one’s different a little bit. Uh, apparently nine’s pin adjusted, but that’s correct. Other than that, no, I think the back is where we have some changes to get into. Um, we’ve got that PD that we’re going to be giving away, uh, which has already been thrown once into the water and retrieved. Chunked off. And it’s chunked. Nice. It’s got a little bit of flavor to it. That’s good. We’re going to sign that up and go to a lucky Patreon winner. So, check that out. jmospro.com/patreon if you want to be a winner of our future practice round giveaways. Uh, all right, nine more holes to go. Come on back to the back nine. We’ll see you there. [Music]