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the Jake asmin show will begin shortly thanks to all these great patreon members who help support the [Music] show get your super chats ready Jake will be here in just a moment if you love the New York Jets this is the place to [Music] be and now the Jake asmin show fold the franchise that’s it fold the franchise fire everyone this is the same old jet we have Aaron freaking Rogers we have Garrett Wilson we have Bree Hall Please Subscribe and hit the like button below Super Chat baby cut the line we have sauce Garder we have Quinn and Williams now it’s time to talk All Things New York Jets it’s the Jake asmin show we have the best fans in sports we have the worst organization that we support disgusting what we watched today we’re hours removed from it I just got done with four hours on ESPN New York and thank you to all the as Maniacs who tuned in there a and I’m still angry which I’m surprised I figured the apathy would start to set in but no I mean I I I had to be on the air as raand Dre Stevenson was scoring the game-winning tou down here’s what it sounded like this was me in real time reacting on the radio in the biggest media Market in the world New York City to the Jets debacle reaching new lows embarrassing this is as bad as it’s ever been for the New York Jets it will never be worse than it is right now they are about to be two and six with Aaron Rogers at quarterback and all this Talent at Devon Adams Addison reick and this defense which Once Upon a Time used to be good got dark walked late in this game when they needed a stop and they couldn’t get it I I mean this is fold the franchise territory for the Jets they’re terrible fold the franchise they stink to new levels I didn’t think were possible and once again even if you thought this Jets team was not as good as what some thought they were going to be you never could have imagined they’d beat two and six their season would be over on October 27th but don’t worry they’re back in Prime Time three days from now baby hey I’ll tell you what there’s going to be a lot of people at MetLife on Halloween dressed up as empty seats this is a disgrace the the level of disgrace I don’t think people unless they’re true Jet fans really understand like other teams other fans of other teams in various Sports don’t know the pain of being a Jet fan because normally when your team has a bad season when we as Jet fans have had bad seasons there are things we could point to and say well if they do this they can get it right I’m here to tell you right now I don’t know what they could do to get this right I don’t know what they can do it’s easy to say fire the owner well that can’t happen it’s easy to say sell the team Woody well that’s not up for the fans to decide this team has done irreputable damage to its loyal fans I don’t know how the Jets come back from this there’s still nine games to go and this is a train wreck the lice of which we don’t see very often in professional sports it is that bad right now and it’s every aspect of this team starting with the owner starting with the general manager and this team was poorly coached with Robert Sawa now they’re non- coached with Jeff o what a joke this guy is in over his head this team came out today unprepared have you ever seen a team burn three timeouts in the first quarter have you ever seen a team have to use a timeout oh wait they didn’t have any have you ever seen a team take a delay a game on a two-point conversion how does that happen man and don’t even get me started with this kicker and and you know what it’s easy to say Greg zerline sucks and he shouldn’t be the kicker that’s easy all right we know the guy is terrible we know that he either is old or he has The Yips or both and he is shot it’s easy to say that you know what needs to be said who’s the reason why Greg zline’s on this team right now this general manager who’s 29 and 62 blame Joe Douglas because for the second year in a row this guy has sat on his ass and allowed this season to go up in Flames with his in Action a year ago if he got a better backup after Rogers got hurt four plays in that version of the Jets could have actually made the postseason this year despite the ineptitude we’ve seen from various aspects of this team if Greg zerline did his job they might have two if not three more wins and then you could say well who could he have signed I don’t know Brandon McMahon hit another game-winning tck kick today for Green Bay how’s that looking Jets could have had him for nothing and only the Jets could have Austin cybert in their camp this summer they cut this guy because they have Greg the leg he goes to Washington and he’s been the best kicker in the NFL since he signed there he’s missed one kick all year and it’s because it was blocked only the Jets the pain that we experience rooting for this football team I don’t know when it ends because every time we say it cannot get worse they find a new way and today was as bad of a loss as I have ever experienced and that was after I felt that way a week ago Sunday night against Pittsburgh I mean it is just so bad top to bottom and this defense this overrated defense all the stars on it you get reic added to the fold and God I cannot wait if they could get anything for that piece of you know what get rid of them and by the way Start the Fire cell if you can get anything for any of these veterans you got to consider it do I think the Jets will do it no because I don’t think Woody actually wants to do what’s in the best interest of the fan base of the franchise I think he wants to sell tickets and he can’t wave the White Flag in October there’ll be no one in his building in November well guess what Woody that’s going to happen either way now and for all we know Joe Douglas is not even the GM right now he’s an absentee general manager has anyone seen him anyone heard from him they fired his buddy Rex Hogan and he turtled up we haven’t heard from the guy what a joke I I I mean I I want everyone gone I I mean the they have done so much damage to this fan base I am not this negative fan at all I try to be positive I genuinely do believe this team had Talent on it still do but they are as poorly coached as any team I’ve ever watched and it’s now affecting some of the young players on this team we thought were to be true difference makers and I’m not giving s Gardner a pass by the way that last Drive was abysmal and he needs to be better but it just feels like the the stench like the karma as Joe B would say of this franchise has now overtaken some of these building blocks that we thought were going to be here for a long time and now you just don’t know two and six on the year two and six if they had a win right now two wins right now it wouldn’t feel like all hope is lost but I I don’t know where you go and you know what this team was not winning anything with Robert Salah but clearly that move is backfired clearly that was the wrong move and I was someone who was kind of indifferent on it I thought Salah was coaching for his job against the bills they did it a week early okay it better work it hasn’t and now what he’s got to own it and just everything the Jets do it’s ass backwards you know if you’re gonna get rid of Salah then you do it before the year starts you do it in the offseason you know if you’re gonna get Devonte Adams you make the Raiders an offer in the off season before the year starts that they can’t refuse not when you’re two and four if you g to get the reic deal done you get it done before you’re two and five oh but Jake that’s not unfair we no I I’m the Jets deserve no passes they don’t deserve any benefit of the doubt they have ruined this season and really any hopes I have now going forward I don’t know if I could ever be excited about a d jet season not with this guy owning the team no way how could you and how about that Devonte Adams speech huh that Jedburg dress really worked as this defense folded like a cheap suit allowing a 12pl 70 yard drive against a Patriots team with their backup quarterback and basically no weapons anyone has ever heard of besides their running back and just the way the Jets lose these games it should be studied because they can’t just be bad in silence they got to be bad in spectacular fashion in the most painful ways imaginable and I don’t know what the answer is in the past we could say well if they do this there’s a path to I don’t know what the answer is I know the answer is GM got to go Jeff o has no chance of being this team long-term head coach I have a better chance of being the jet head coach next year than he does and it’s a shame because you know what I think Jeff O’s is a hell of a DC and he was thrown into a tough spot but the way this is all unraveled man I mean it is unreal they were poorly coached with Robert Salah they’re not coached with Jeff oook I’ll say it again it’s an embarrassment what we witnessed today and the only thing you could hope for and here’s the problem right right you hope the owner could hire the right people you have no faith in that happening James Dolan’s not a good owner he eventually got the Knicks turned around because he hired Leon Rose and Tom Lio you have to hope that Woody maybe through divine intervention could hire the right football people to fix this team because until that happens there’s nothing to talk about and I know people will say a lot about Aaron Rogers this and that look what we thought he was supposed to have he doesn’t have he doesn’t have an elite running game he doesn’t have a top five defense he doesn’t have a top five special teams and you know what in this game today well certainly not pretty at times he gave you the lead late let a beautiful touchdown drive and then this defense had a chance to make a play the backbone of this team the last three years had a chance to go win the game against a crummy Patriots team with their backup quarterback and they couldn’t do it so I don’t want to hear it about Rogers we know he’s clearly injured he’s not the same guy we saw on September 19th when he was mobile moving around off platform throws escap in the pocket he’s not that guy he’s a statue back there they were supposed to be able to help him and just the way this team folds at any sign of adversity like what we saw last week and then today not having that Killer Instinct to close out anyone it’s all coaching this team is so poorly coached it is unbelievable discipline issues how about Michael Clemens with another penalty when are we going to hold someone accountable what does that happen why is it this fan base wants to win more than the players and coaches do I I I mean I am disgusted by what we saw today disgusted and this is worse than any other season I can imagine any other season because last year it was sucked away right away but you knew why this year I I I I don’t have the answer I don’t know what the answer is there isn’t an answer it is as bad as it has ever been once again I I took calls tonight from Jet fans who’ve been watching this team from the beginning I had calls from IRA and Staten Island I had calls from you name it all the Jet fans I watched this game today with Bingo who will be joining us at 10 a.m. tomorrow it has never been worse it has never been worse than it is right now and we had legitimate reasons for Hope coming in this team is a train wreck and and I said it on the radio I’ll say it again this is one of the biggest failures in professional sports history that’s what the Jets are now wearing seriously this team with this type of talent to be two and six is an unmitigated disaster there is no hope to even Salvage this season now the only thing the Jets are going to do is now start winning games when it doesn’t even matter and they will hurt their draft pick whatever it ends up being who cares because it doesn’t matter unless you have the right GM and the right coach Jets have picked High how many times but now it’s like you’re back to the drawing board Rogers is not going to be here next year devonte’s not going to be here who’s the coach who’s the GM what’s the direction what’s the plan I have no idea about any of these questions it’s just wow I mean even for jet standards it is impossible to Fathom how bad this has gotten I mean to lose this game today the way they did it it is it is just sad it really is and I just I keep coming back to the word irreparable damage they’re doing to this fan base because I heard from a lot of people tonight already on the radio we’ll hear from it hear from people on the postgame show here that aren’t rening their season tickets how could you how could you when once again for how many years in a row are your tickets going down in value by the time you get to November and December when you can get to a jet game for 30 bucks instead of paying hundreds of dollars that you pay upfront to be a season ticket older and support this team and they’re going to and Woody Johnson has the audacity to raise prices are you kidding me and when you defend this team the way I did this off season and you really want to believe in this team the way I did and many people did that watch the show every day just for them to turn out the same way that all these haters said it would really just breaks you man it really does I mean 2522 to the Patriots and of course it’s the Patriots right they stink they’re not any good even in their rebuild year they still get the stick it to the Jets like they’re they’re terrible they’re not any good they’re gonna finish with four or five wins at the most and we gave them one of the highlights of their season ending ours now I thought the season was done last week at two and five I did but I thought if they won today you know what let’s give some hope going into Houston then you never know but now forget it two and six I mean in a season that has been filled with some of the most painstaking losses I have ever experienced being a fan of this team there this is a whole new level of embarrassment and you could bring up 2011 2016 1999 2003 whatever year you want to mention that I’ve experienced in my lifetime rooting for this team this is worse last year this is worse and I I I a part of me died between last Sunday and then today because now anything they do that is positive won’t even feel like it it’s just eh that’s really it we’re angry today we’ll be angry tomorrow they’re going to play again on Thursday fitting they’ll be wearing black as it will be the Jets funeral when they lose on Thursday there already is be people dressed up as empty seats at Met Life I’ll tell you that much but it’s just when does it end man when does this stop and I I I don’t know the answer I really don’t before I get to your calls and get to some super chats I do sincerely want to thank everyone who came out the t- squar social today we had a great watch party thank you to Joe Bingo for coming through took pictures with everyone all the regulars who were there all the regular ass Maniacs who made it out thank you guys everyone who I met for the first time truly appreciate it I have no idea what our next one will be or if I even want to do one to be honest I love T squ social love the people there they treat us like kigs I I just I can’t do it man th this team is actually I think they they broken me I mean I am I’m I am disheveled right now between that and what happened last night in the world series with the Yankees it has been a brutal 24hour stretch for me if you’re tuned in live right now God bless you please hit the like button and subscribe to the channel there’s 2500 in here live so if you haven’t subscribed yet please do so we are about 300 away from 40,000 so Jet fans win or lose and it’s certainly a lot of losing we’re in this together all right some super chats here here we go Tyrone writes in Jets need a whole new coaching staff and a kicker too much talent OC sucks nine games left Holding On by a fingernail the man this is the biggest slap in the face as a fan go Jets it’s over Tyrone I love your positivity and I truly appreciate your support they’re done they’re done they’re two and six it’s over they just lost to the worst team in the NFL and I got news for you the Jets now are in the conversation from one of the worst teams in the NFL what do they do well right now do they have a good offense no they have a good def defense no do they have a good special teams are they properly coached they’re one of the worst teams in the NFL Andrew says think we have a better record with Shawn P at head coach yeah I’d imagine Shawn Peyton would do better than Jeff o or Robert Sawa what a dumb comment Jesse writes did I didn’t watch the game because I wanted to enjoy my Sunday but let me guess terrible coaching B penalties miss kick Sam Jets blow it up it’s being blown up here’s the problem we could say blown blow it up who are you hiring and do you have any faith in the guy who owns the franchise to hire the right people because I don’t nyj why would Greg want to get paid kicking field goals for the Jets when he just kick Jet fans in the nuts look I think it’s easy to say Greg zerline sucks he’s not a good he should be cut he’s not doing it on purpose this is on Joe Douglas get off your ass Joe and maybe be the GM of this team or whereas Woody just groped you by the balls you got no you got no power left you can’t even get a replacement kicker in there a joke a year after this guy basically sunk the jet season by neglecting the backup quarterback spot now he’s neglecting the kicker position it’s an embarrassment Dre writes and Jake I can’t with another rebuild I know man and you know what let me say this about a rebuild I’m pretty sick and tired of watching other teams turn their team around in a year two years at the most remember the lions were the biggest joke in sports how are they right now how quickly do they turn it around with their GM and coaching hires how about the Washington commies today Jane Daniels looks pretty good had they turned around oh they hit on a quarterback oh they got the coaching high right you know it’s not that it’s not that hard if you hire the right people rebuilds don’t take six years for Joe Douglas who’s at 29 and 62 and I was patient with Joe because I do see some of the good moves he’s made I do think there’s Talent on this team but ultimately what has he done right not enough to overcome what he’s done wrong which is drafting Zack Wilson not getting a real backup for Zach Wilson drafting McKai beckon and the biggest move he made that he failed hiring the head coach and Robert Sal that’s it he does not get to hire another coach he’s not the only reason why this team has struggled but he’s got to go he’s got to go you give Joe Douglas a contract extension with a record of 29 and 62 he’s gone 25 that Devonte speech worked wonders yeah what a speech put it up there with the MLK speech herb Brooks before the uh us took on the Soviets in 1980 put it right up there with what other great speeches uh you know Kennedy’s inauguration speech all the speeches man what a speech Drew writes in if I see one positive jet social media post I’ll tell you what you’re going to see this week and get ready for it the Jets are going to be like look at our jerseys this week we’re wearing the all black they’re going to continue to spit in our faces keep posting videos of Assan reick though it’s exactly what we want to see as this team is two and six embarrassing franchise embarrassing ownership disgusting who’s her daddy Woody from Toy Story would be a better owner it’s just it is mind-boggling that we’re here we’re talking about draft positioning new GM new coach quarterback it’s October 27th you realize during this losing streak the Jets have been a favorite in all these games you realize that right like not only have the Jets been a two and six football team that is bad they are still supposed to win these games because there is Talent on this team and they are about as poorly coached of a team as I’ve ever seen and the coaching is now impacting the development or the lack of Ascension I believe of some of these young Stars I don’t know what’s happened to S Garder these last couple weeks you at first he wasn’t playing up to his All Pro level but now it’s getting worse and worse and what’s the excuse today for the defense no DJ Reid you had him back no Michael Carter you had him back no Assan reck you had him I mean come on man jacobe Brett’s dog walking you for 12 plays and 70 yards in two minutes really what a joke Eric says Boswell was a mid-season pickup for the Steelers in 201 you can find better kickers laying around yeah Green Bay picked up Brandon mcmanis he has two game-winning kicks in two career games of the Packers only the Jets could let a kicker wreck their season after last year the whole theme of the season was Joe Douglas sitting on his ass doing nothing and allowing this defense which last year actually was good in top five and this special teams actually was good and was top five in the league destroy a year now a year later by basically doing the same thing but instead of quarterback it’s kicker RJ with a super chat I agree with you on JD potentially being gone but who do you trust to get the next head coach more JD or Woody but I don’t think that’s justification to keep JD like I don’t like obviously I think JD knows more about football than Woody Johnson the hope would be Woody could find someone to help him ADI advise him the right people in the interview process how did James Dolan find Leon Rose you know like you you have to hope that someone could get through to Woody Johnson that understands football and can help him identify the right candidates for these jobs and you have to pray they get it right because until they get that higher right nothing matters nothing Arizona Frankie says this team is Adam gas bad I can math it see SAU is a mod until further notice yeah go play more golf sauce or go stream on Twitch I just I’m so disgusted man Eric says we’re at coat tight level now the team finally broke me th this to me is as bad as it’s ever been you know when they were that bad with gase or for those of you old enough obviously to remember the C tight years to me it’s like you were tearing it down and starting over I think the Jets right now are at such a weird spot because do we really want them to tear it all down like I don’t know about you guys I don’t want to get rid of Garrett Wilson that guy cares man that guy has a give a [ __ ] that is very high all right I look at that guy competing today I look at that guy who wants to be great I think it kills him that they’re losing that guy can play for my team any day but we’re going to blow the whole thing up now like that hurts man that hurts because you have no idea when you’re ever going to get Talent this good again and you gota hope that you get the coaching right Dark Knight Steve with a super chat start training everyone for draft Capital break it down in the studs we could start doing mock drafts for fun F my football life I hate this team all this organization does is lie to us and we fall for it each time and this one hurts more than any other because you know what I’ll say it again I don’t think any Jet fan was foolish for having faith in this team I don’t think any Jet fan was foolish for thinking a team last year that won games without a quarterback getting Aaron Rogers back and this defense the Special Teams and the things we pointed to I don’t think you were crazy if for thinking this team could win 10 or more games because guess what they’ve been a favorite in all these games guess what their win total was nine and a half going into the year you weren’t crazy we just couldn’t have imagined it would ever be this bad metal lands writes in this is the worst super team in sports history I’ve never seen a laundry list of talent fail so spectacularly together it’s disgusting in SL abysmal I mean this has been the hardest year of being a Jet fan of My Life by far and I I’ll keep using this phrase tonight irreputable damage they’re doing to this fan base even the most optimistic Jet fan I don’t know how you could somehow spin it positive or be excited again how Eric this is the worst I had more fun in the gay years you just didn’t care in the gay years you didn’t have expectations it’s the hope that kills you it was the buildup for this year too because last year felt like the ultimate te’s because you had four plays of Rogers and you still fought they were four and three last year before the o line fell apart which exposed how bad Zack Wilson is which by the way just because the Jets are worse this year so far through eight games than they were last year with Zach Wilson no does that no does that mean that Zach Wilson’s all a sudden good all right so we can stop with that story ly most painful seasons is the final game in 2015 signing out Jake shout out to the as Maniacs this is so unbelievable next season story Lyn we’ll see you in a year God bless Dre writes in we need Rex right now Jake he lives I’d hire Rex today just for the hell of it and make the Jets watchable let Rex coach the rest of the way why not who cares you know I talked about Garrett Wilson having a high give a [ __ ] radar so does Rex and I’ll say what I said on the show the other day because there’s a bigger audience watching right now Rex wi re Rex Ryan is 1,00% getting a head coaching interview for this team not saying he’s getting the job but you know what at least Rex cares at least guys play for him you think the Jets are two and six with Rex Ryan if they had this Talent right now no shot no shot you think Rex is letting them lose to the Patriots if he’s coaching this team today no way no way because he understands the history of the organization you can’t lose to New England when they’re this bad Omari writes in the players do not have any heart every time we go into the season with expectations we fall short I want everybody gone every flipping buddy I get it look this team’s going to look radically different next year there’s no doubt the debate’s going to be though when we say break it down does that mean SAU does that mean Garrett does that mean Bree Germaine you know DJ Reed won’t be here next year Mike Williams won’t be here next year like that that’s obvious Tyron Smith won’t be here next year what does this team look like Beyond some of these like veterans who are on one-year deals and by the way get Hassan reick off this football team get rid of his ass honestly if the Jets could swallow their pride and go from buyers two weeks ago to sellers I would trade anyone you can get picks for but who’s even making those decisions would he Joe Douglas the absentee GM so none of that will happen forever Ron I can’t even disappoint my dad the way this team disappointed me truly unbelievable I I mean this is one of the biggest Sports disappointments ever and if you’re a fan of the Jets we will talk about 2024 we will talk about the Aaron Rogers era and it’s just going to be looked back on like the like just a a nightmare the same way we talk about gase and cot we’re gonna talk about the Rogers era now the Joe Douglas era Dano writes in if you ask me the offense was the strength of the team and did enough to win the defense sucked and the special teams was a colossal F AR was a bright spot look to me this is not the postgame show to kill Aaron Rogers he wasn’t perfect but he’s also clearly not what he was we knew that he’s not 100% healthy that is so obvious if you watch him he can’t move laterally he’s not even close to the same guy we saw month ago against the same patch team he’s beat up he still played well enough for them to win today he gave you a game-winning touchdown and then you needed this defense to step up and make a play how many times has this defense made that stop at the end and bailed out the crappy offense today the offense picked up the defense and the defense failed them and that’s the sign of a bad team that’s the sign of a poorly coached team when one week it’s special teams one week it’s the offense one week it’s the defense when every week it’s a different unit failing you you know what that means you suck you’re not any good and we know the Jets are not any good the record is what the record is at this point and we know the coaching staff is an abomination they’re unprepared there’s no adjustments yes downing’s better than hacket but that’s not saying much I think Old Brick it’s clear he’s been stretched too thin being the head coach I think he should either delegate the play calling responsibilities or they got to come up with some better system just not working this defense you know first week it’s like okay it’s Josh Allen he’s good it’s the bills last week all right Pittsburgh tough environment what’s the excuse against the Patriots who had lost in a row their own coach called them soft they were getting booed out of the stadium at halftime the way they sat on the ball at the end there and you allow them to beat you with their backup quarterback in are you kidding me soft WD says 29 and 62 this needs to this show needs to start listening to the negative callers JJ and Allen were right always my favorites on the show JJ a great fan he wants to see this team win he was the one also talking about winning 10 in a row so he’s all over the place I don’t know Allen just roots for the Jets to be bad so he could say I told you so his take will always be negative so it is what it is and I’ve said this for a while now if your take is always anti- Jets and it’s never going to work out more times than not you’re gonna end up being right it’s easy to say that kuga Lake Jet fan bought my dad bday tickets for the Colts game I’m ashamed to take him and don’t want to go my son’s a Bills fan and keeps trying to to change my fandom well you can’t be a Bills fan but normally I would say you’re a fraud for letting your son be a Bills fan but I mean I don’t have it in me right now Robert says if someone paid me to take his tickets I’d say no that’s the problem right you can’t you’re GNA have to pay people to go to the watch the scene the rest of the way with this kind of talent this quarterback and it doesn’t matter Verdine became an as Maniac thank you Verdine I appreciate everyone tuned in supporting the show man this is my living man so I still got to talk about this team every day which sucks so thank you guys for the support super chats donations you know the channel memberships goes a long way you know and it sucks because now I’ve seen this man it’s my fourth year doing this once you hit that point where the fan base checks out that’s the worst place to be when you’re an organization right now we still care for the night right it stings it hurts but then we’re going to get to Thursday they’re going to lose they’re gonna be two and seven there gonna be eight games left and No One’s Gonna care you’re playing out the strings with eight games left you know how you know how pathetic that is last year at least they were four and three embarrassing Dark Knight Steve what do the Jets do well get penalties Miss kicks commit dumb penalties burn timeouts excessively have you ever seen a team burn three timeouts in the first quarter of a game and this is where I will criticize Rogers because you know what at some point you’re the Hall of Fame quarterback you gotta say enough is enough man and get the play in get on the same page with Downing or whatever or is it Downey’s giving Rogers the play and Rogers knows the play sucks so he’s spending all his time changing at the line of scrimmage and it’s just too much for him to do at this stage of his career is that’s what’s happening I just everything just pisses me off tonight man everything I hate this team I hate them that every fiber in my body fighter jet says season ticket older section 250 should I renew no will I yep I wish I knew how to quit this team but I can’t we be a fan till I die let me ask you this I’m not gonna tell you how to spend your money why are you renewing right if you’re a Jet fan and the Jets want you to renew your season tickets what’s the benefit of that what are you getting out of that like if you want to go to a jet game just buy tickets on the secondary Market you might say well Jake it will be expensive to be by the end of the year it won’t be go look for what tickets are selling for for Thursday go look at what tickets are going to be selling for that Colts game which by the way if they don’t flex that game at a Sunday night I will go to Park Avenue myself and strangle Roger Goodell personally I the last thing I need is any more late nights doing this show reacting to another debacle that the entire country gets to watch and make fun of I I can’t do it anymore man it is bad enough they’re playing three days from now between the Yanke and the Jets my blood pressure cannot I I actually took off my Apple watch today at tqu Social because I was tired of it irregular heart rate enough but getting back to the Super Chat here I I’m I’m delirious right now what is the benefit of being a season ticket owner right now why would you give this team your money I’m not telling you how to spend it I’m just saying if you want to go to a game I don’t have season tickets I pay for tickets if I want to go so you could sit with the same people in your section like I I get it there’s camaraderie there but what do you get out of being a season ticket aler they don’t send you a great like preseason package like other teams do you see what the Raiders send their fans what does the jet season ticket holder get oh they get a yearbook with a bunch of advertisements 50% off jet wine they should be paying you to watch them so I’m not going to tell you how a fan if you want to do it do it and I respect the H out of all these longtime season ticket holders but what are you getting out of it PSL is the biggest ripoff in the history of sports they made you they drag you through the coals for that now they want your season ticket renewal money in late October with the team two and seven are you or two and six sorry they’ll be two and seven three days from now check back in Thursday night are you kidding me and I’m gonna be a fan too till I die I’m stck all right you can’t leave your team but I I don’t know what you get out of giving this team your money right now section 250b fighter J you want to sit there you can buy tickets there Michael writes in false start on the two-point conversion do they practice during the week I want Witnesses forget the false start how about the fact that they had to take a delay again there on a two-point conversion attempt I mean this stuff is scripted in practice you go into a game knowing hey these are your two calls if it’s two point against this defense I can’t if I don’t take a sip of water right now I might choke to death so hold on they still make me this angry which is insane because I’ve been screaming about the Jets for Non-Stop for four hours on ESPN New York and now doing this A1 Saucy says I really hate this version of the Jets they really play with no heart last year’s jets would be yeah last year’s team would definitely be La uh this year’s last year’s team was better last Year’s team actually had a heart all right they knew when Rogers went down everyone had to do more and they just thought oh you know Rogers is back everything’s going to be great maybe they didn’t work hard the off season maybe they just believed what we thought as fans Rogers would fix a lot of it they just would show up and be fine I question everything because I’ll tell you what if Aaron Rogers was actually the quarterback of last year’s team they do go to the playoffs because last year’s defense was really good last year’s Greg zerine missed three kicks all year he’s he’s missed six field goals and what it’s like two or three Pats and he still has a job how do you let him on the plane back from this game JL JD’s failed I can’t believe he has Defenders look no one could say Joe Douglas hasn’t made some good moves along the way clearly has but he hasn’t done enough he’s he’s in a six year man he’s had five full drafts five full free agent periods five full off Seasons he hired the head coach he got it colossally wrong he drafted the quarterback he couldn’t pick a bigger bust he then had a chance to rectify the situation okay he gives you Aaron Rogers Rogers blows his Achilles out four plays in not his fault but then did nothing and tanked the season then what disgraceful disgraceful Tommy writes in now they want to talk about accountability but don’t act on it ever Clemens all zerline come on yeah accountability you know what accountability looks like the total opposite of anything we’ve seen from the New York Jets this year that’s accountability P Green how is it even possible isn’t the game easier to lose than win should we be somewhat impressed that this talented group could lose to the Pats I mean it’s a new level of ineptitude I’m trying to find the stat that uh seini had the so the the Jets became the first team to l lose this game today hold on let me let me pull it up on my phone because my my my computer is spazzing much like I’m spazzing much like the Jets have spazzed much like this fan base is spazzed the Jets are the second team this Century to lose five straight gains and they weren’t underdogs of at least three points in any of them here’s another great stat the Jets had zero turnovers held the Patriots to 20 47 yards and still lost they’re the first team to lose a game in which they did not turn the ball over and held their opponent under 250 yards since week three of 2012 that was the Aaron Rogers Fail Mary game when he was with the Packers against the Seahawks since that game teams to do that the stat I just gave have been 220 and zero until today and you know what here’s why this defense never forces any turnovers they never fall in a goddamn fumble never set the offense up with a short field and today the offense gave him a chance to win the game they gave you the game-winning drive go do a defense and they blew it they gagged as a a as well of a gag as you’ll ever see if you want to script or you want to try and like perfect what gagging looks like put on the last two minutes and 35 seconds of the fourth quarter of this game today Travis says we had the best week of practice you knew that was the kiss of death by the way and I said it at the time best week of practice I’m like bet the house on the Patriots and by the way I did I took the Patriots plus seven I’m GNA have to watch this I’m going to try and make some money on it I can’t do it anymore pln says one of the worst teams in NFL with Super Bowl hopes a joke C writes and I put my tickets for Thursday up for sale the second Greg missed that kick if they blow it up they better keep Garrett Wilson he showed up appreciate you Jake I know you don’t want to talk about this misery anymore see I appreciate it man look I’ll say what I said again about Garrett I’m not trading him that guy has a high give a [ __ ] meter I want guys like that on this team I question the fight on a lot of guys I question the competitiveness on a lot of guys on this team I don’t question that with Garrett he wants to play he wants to win here’s the thing does he want to be here though right we won Garrett at least I do I think this fan base still does would you blame Garrett Wilson if he sees What’s Happening Here it didn’t even work with Aaron Rogers after he had Zack Wilson Tim Bole Trevor Simeon Mike White Joe flacko Josh Johnson and some other Jabron I’m sure on Miss oh Chris strer throwing him and he says you know what I don’t want to deal with another rookie quarterback we’re GNA draft see other teams will draft a Jaden Daniels or draft a CJ strad we know what the Jets end up having to draft the quarterback now in the first round which certainly seems like it’s possible we know they’re not picking the right guy and we’re going to do this cycle all over again who’s ready to argue with the Carson Beck truthers in his fan base oh I can’t wait let’s go baby fire it up Stu writes in I’m a white socks and jets fan this is pain God bless project Prospect with dom C shout out to Dom Dom did you ever think when we left London it’d get this bad because I didn’t I knew it was bad then I couldn’t have imagined two and six as I was hanging out with dom across the pond it’s now officially draft season Jake let me know when you want to start talking prospects freaking gross that it’s not Halloween yet I’ll tell you what Thursday night a lot of Jet fans will be dressed up as empty seats at jetti you’ll see that and I’m such a schmuck I’ll be there we did a group bu with 155 as Maniacs I’ll be in section 128 baby I might wear a bag on My Head by the way if anyone wants to join us I I think people are just giving away tickets so check the Discord if you want them I had like three people privately messaged me I haven’t even answered yet because I’ve been working non-stop but there’s a good chance if you if you want to go to a j game on Thursday we might be able to get you in I won’t be paying you to go though you’re going on your own I don’t want to be responsible for that all right I know it’s Halloween and all but I don’t want to take it too literally I don’t want to show you an actual horror show all right you do that on your own time Omari says Rex will be the coach next year I don’t see anyone else coming here look it’s still one of 32 but there’s going to be a jet tax if you want a top guy you’re got to spend like Woody Johnson don’t take no for an answer you know if you identify you know Ben Johnson or Mike Rabel and these guys got other options for example you’re G have to pay big money John can only cross our fingers that Woody accidentally hires the right GM and Coach Chiefs for poverty till they landed Andy re yeah look and like I took calls from people tonight A the Jets are cursed they’ll never get it right and I get that sentiment I really do but like that that’s not the way to look at it like you got to hope that if you’re a Jet fan just like I am a Nick fan you eventually hire the right people the Cubs eventually won the World Series unfortunately it was so long a lot of their die hards were dead and didn’t get to see it and God forbid that you know if the Jets don’t start winning soon a lot of longtime fans aren’t going to be around to see it but my point is like the Red Sox were cursed until they weren’t and then they won the World Series in 04 then they won it again three other times look at the Chiefs great example New England was was a joke until Brady got there with belich you got to get the right people in man even this year the commanders were a joke and now look at them I was in Houston I worked for ESPN Houston for six years I documented every step of the Deshawn Watson lawsuit Saga Jack easterby was a Google Jack easterby Jet fans look at this guy’s background this guy was running the team he was a preacher they got rid of him they hire Nick cerio he hires demo Ryan they hit on CJ strad who by the way wasn’t even their Preference they tried to get Bryce Young but some teams just kind of luck into it and then here we are as Jet fans it’s like when are we ever going to get a break when do we get our CJ strad when do we get our Jaden Daniels when do we get our higher right like Kyle Shanahan right the Niners have great quarterbacks but when do we get either the great coach or the great quarterback or how about just competency at both when do we ever get a break Andrew says how could it be positive that would that we would miss a field goal I mean the only lock we knew was that zerline was missing a huge kick today I mean we all knew it I watched this game with a 100 Jeet fans today we all knew it we all looked at each other and like some of us screamed some of us just laughed I mean I and if I don’t laugh I’m going to cry Carlos says we need an offensive minded coach you know what they need they need a good coach and to me they really have two options when it comes to the head coach one they get a hologram of Wee bub bank because he’s the only one who’s won you try it with him or two it has to be either an offensive minded guy or someone with experience that’s actually had success at a high level that’s it none of this first time head coach as a defensive background can’t do it JJ says just ch my ticket rep I’m done been a ticket holder since 2018 when darnold was drafted can’t do it to myself anymore I’m a grown man and can cry I don’t blame any jet season ticket owner who doesn’t renew seriously they’re raising your prices you don’t know who the GM is you don’t know who the coach is you don’t know who the quarterback is and they want you to pay now are you nuts I mean it makes no sense if you want to go to a jet game just spend money on the secondary Market maybe you got to pay a little more but guess what couple less games you go to next year probably worth it than spending thousands up front when you have no IDE the direction this team is going and the benefit of being a season ticket older right because I have friends who are Yankee season ticket holders or Nicks or Rangers right the benefit is you get face value for the playoffs well guess what this team hasn’t won the division since 2002 what’s more embarrassing the playoff drought longest in North American Sports since 2010 or the fact they haven’t had a home playoff game since 2002 you tell me and that’s the benefit of being a season ticket aler you get face value for home games for the playoffs right I got friends who are Nick season ticket owners they are spending a fortune but you know what it’s actually cheaper to do it if they want to go to playoff games and the Knicks will be in the playoffs right the Yankees are in the playoffs every year you’re gonna get value there all right Ranger fans same thing you’re gonna get value there what value are you getting being a jet season ticket aler right now they’re going to send you a yearbook with some ads in it woohoo why my ass with those ads what a joke man it’s disgusting they they’ broken me man I I I I just I probably a couple more days of anger and then it’s just it’s done it’s done this is the last night of just pure anger I I they could win they could lose it doesn’t matter on Thursday it’s over two and six verine says love the Jets can’t do it anymore I’m just ashamed to be a fan soft is in the NFL defense can’t catch a cold yeah I mean it it is sad what has happened to this defense they’ve been demoralized Brook stretched too thin getting rid of Salah obviously was the wrong move timing of it all that it’s just everything’s ass backwards adding reck when the teams two and five Ry says guden one is settlement Gruden for head coach I don’t know where you saw that obviously if John Gruden would actually be an option I would definitely consider him you know we talked about the high give a [ __ ] radar John guden cares man Omari writes in years from now we’ll look at this year as we wasted the AFC sucks look at our division yeah I said this on the radio it’s a great Point Omari the Dolphins are terrible New England’s not any good buffalo is good but they’re not as good as they’ve been we even saw that when the Jets blew it against them should have won that game and the Jets just wasted it with this kind of talent they just wasted it Edward with a super chat thank you John writes in it is absolutely amazing how the aura and success of such a super Superstar Hall of Fame quarterback instantly gets consumed by the black hole that is the New York Jets franchise yeah I think Aaron Rogers did not realize the undertaking he was taking on having to play quarterback for this team and then he’s been Zapped of his Mobility because I believe he’s playing through an injury he’s not the same guy we saw a month ago he’s not and he was still effective enough to win today he was but he has no lateral movement right now and the pass rush gave him time today like the offense was fine the penalties were made a problem the burning of the timeouts was a problem but you know what 22 points against the Patriots and their offense with their backup quarterback out there should have been enough to win today you I didn’t think Aaron Rogers was spectacular today but you know what he went out there and he was 17 to 28 for 233 two touchdowns he didn’t turn it over he got away with one brutal throw that could have been picked but still this to me is just about the fact this team is so poorly coached this defense is nowhere near what it once was they’re soft and it’s just brutal that’s no ghost says Jake I’ll be here every day with you jets for 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joe.com if you’re in the tri-state area Joe and his team can help you out sell your home or any of the other needs that your house might have check it out all right Edward Super Chat team needs and attitude bring back Rex just to make this season watchable down the stretch I’d make Rex the head coach today give Rexx the next nine games here at least it’ll be fun the writes in maybe now that they’re officially bad they’ll play better yeah this is what the Jets will do they’re going to start winning some games late so they can finish six and 11 or seven and 10 and it won’t matter because they’re not finishing with just two anyone who thinks this ends with the Jets getting a top three pick has not been following the history of the Jets the jet the Jets are not finishing with a top three pick they won’t I know they’re picking fourth right now technically because hello darkness my old friend I went to tank ofon C today oh it’s good to be back baby but they’re not going to end up there they’re going to win some games late like they always do and it’s not going to matter watch it Snoopy says Rogers is washed up goofy did you hear his post game comments you have to make peace with the darkness he’s losing his mind Jake I mean to be fair to Aaron they asked him about rri saying you know they’re in the darkness right now and then Rogers quip that and then simp we all got a B whatever I I don’t care Snoopy all right I don’t care I actually thought it was funny but whatever doesn’t matter team stinks Brian says Jake thanks for your hard work brother I’m absolutely beat to a pulp taking a break from this team but we will never jump [ __ ] yeah I mean that’s that’s the thing right the Jet fan is not gonna go that far I mean some of you aren’t going to watch the show again after tonight which sucks for my bottom line but you’ll be back in but I don’t think we’ll ever reach hype in excitement like what we had going into this year again I I think there is some long-term damage these last two seasons have done to the psyche of the fan base like there’s real PTSD now when I watch sports when I see a star player on one of my teams go down with any injury I always assume it’s the worst after Rogers injury last year and now I don’t know if I could ever truly be excited again the way I was after what this season has done Asis Spade to the Jets call Randy Mueller well if they do I would love that because ry’s ry’s awesome Willie writes in softest dline in the NFL old players pass their primes terrible coaches LAX of days ago was going to the Texans game Who refus to give them my hard own own hard-earned money I believe you me yeah look I’m going to the Texans game if I wasn’t hosting 150 of my listeners I wouldn’t be gone this will be my last home game I go to all year I’m done I’m done Angel says we look like a JV team tonight I hate it here I do with thanks for siging up to be an as Maniac I appreciate it worth five cents right in was going to the game in Arizona in a few weeks sold the tickets get a golf and Scottdale and said can’t put myself through this misery I get it isn’t that sad you were going to the game in Arizona and you’re like I’m good I’ll just watch it on TV I’ll play golf instead Michael says see you all Thursday I mean you’ll see me there Michael but you’re also going to see a lot of Jet fans dress stuff as empty seats and you’re also going to see a lot of Jet fans I’d imagine wearing bags on their heads I I’m going to find a bag to wear on my head for Thursday Adam writes in we’re 15 months ahead of schedule at least when when do we start the mock drafts should I ask Bingo tomorrow what quarterback he wants oh the pain Canadian says I have been a fan of this team for far too long one winning season in 15 years all my Jets merch in a box had a move forward I don’t know I gotta ask this I gotta ask this a lot tonight I’m down bad right now I got to think I don’t know what the answer is oh Jake Woody needs to sell sell the team great anyone could go on the radio and say Woody Johnson’s bad and should sell the team he’s not selling the team now what what’s your plan then you know what here’s what I’m going to do sometimes we have to listen to our youth all right so I’m opening up the gusb hotline right now and I’m going to have 13-year-old Conor long tell us how we can fix this franchise Connor you’ve never seen good football in your life so give us an idea on what needs to be done to change that Jake this team sucks it’s plain and simple they suck I don’t think I’ve ever seen a jet season obviously I haven’t seen a jet season with this much anticipation but I mean the season’s over before the calendar even turn to November at least last year Jake that Black Friday game was somewhat somewhat meaningful 2022 they were still playing meaningful games at the end of December now the season’s over and it’s not even November I think a lot of it you know obviously it’s easy to blame Woody Johnson for you know the way he runs the team what I I just think I think the word is dysfunctional to describe this franchise the way it’s run because you look at Joe Douglas and he really it almost seems that Woody Johnson especially over the past few weeks is turning into that Jerry Jones type of owner where he’s taking over everything now you look at someone like Aon Rogers who wants to be a leader he wants to be that coach coach on the field now he’s you know getting some of the blame well did he really fire Robert Salah and then it’s I think gets to a point where it’s a bit confusing for the players well who do we really believe is it is it Aaron Rogers who’s coaching this team or is it Jeff rri so I do think there is a bit of miscommunication there I mean Greg Greg Greg the leg I don’t even Greg zerine he needs to be cut tomorrow I mean that was just terrible I’m tired of watching the same thing from him every single week I’m really at a loss for words it’s the same story every week season’s over before November and and know I I’ll say it now Jake this team I don’t think they’re gonna win another game this season I hate to W they broke Conor long yeah I I don’t think they’re gonna win another game the only game I could see that they maybe have a shot in is the Jacksonville game but I’m still not completely sold in that game how are how are you feeling win loss I think I think their floor right now is where they’re at two wins I’d say their ceiling is four wins now you’re a little younger than me I’ll tell you how this is going to go they’re going to win a couple games because it’d be too easy for them just the bottom out and only win two games right at that point they’d Phantom IR Rogers or he would actually be hurt you know I mean it’d be too easy they they’re gonna win some games they’re probably gonna finish with five or six wins you watch you’ll see it yeah I I want to get your thoughts on Aaron Rogers though do you think he’s gonna retire I you know I think he’s gonna get beat up too much I think he’s gonna retire after the season ends yeah I look I I don’t think he’s the quarterback next year here good call Conor good good job starting off I don’t know if he’d want to be and I also don’t know if uh it makes sense for him to even play next year he’s he’s banged up I don’t know if he wanted to come back next year because he’s under contract I think what would need to obviously happen is you don’t hire the coach or the GM based on what he wants you hire the right football people and let them decide what they want to do and if Rogers is here and like he’s you know starting in aook is right behind him fine that’s a plan but I I don’t think he’s going to be here next year I I don’t I I think this is a complete tear down from the standpoint of like the power structure being completely different from GM coaching quarterback but I’ll tell you what Conor they are going to win some games man it’d be too easy for them just to lose out they’re going to win games and and hurt their draft pick at the end which once again before we all freak out about them winning some games just know it’s going to happen it won’t hurt as much they’re not going to be bad enough to lose all these games as bad as it is right now the Adam gase Jets won two of their last three games so this team is going to win a couple games here and they actually had a kicker they’ve had they would and maybe have three more wins right now so they’re gonna get a new kicker this week There’s no way that guy could be worse than zerline they’re going to win a couple games here they are wild wave wres in Wood he decided the nuke the H season ruined a rebuild and handle the salid firing terrible Jake you still bricked up H uh look you could blame Woody and that’s fine he owns the team but put some monus on the players put some monus on the GM who hired the coach all right this team shouldn’t be two and six if Joe Douglas wasn’t asleep and they had a different kicker they’d have another win or two right now I mean you could say wood he handled the Salah firing terrible but this is a fan base that would universally praised that decision so be fair ruined to rebuild I don’t think so I don’t think it was a mistake trying to go after Aaron Rogers what was the solution Zack Wilson in year three we saw that how’d that work signed Derek Carr how’s that working signed Jimmy G how would that have worked it didn’t work but I don’t think the the the idea of trading for Rogers what ended up being two second round picks that didn’t set this franchise back they just got the wrong decision makers man because it started with botching the Zach Wilson selection it also started when you had the wrong head coach Robert Sal had a good head coach maybe one day he will be right Todd BS is decent now but it didn’t work I think the issues you have now is okay now what who are the football people that are going to comeing and make decisions and you have no faith in this guy hiring the right people that’s the problem Super Trucker with a super chat I’m piss Jake WTF was that I don’t know man I’ve been I’m an hour five straight of talking this so I don’t know Robert says can we just face the Panthers only rest of the season let the Jets and Panthers scrimmage every week Robert Right Said the Panthers by the way would probably beat the Jets right now let’s be honest could someone set the edge quarterbacks is running for days missing Jermaine Johnson badly should have gave up two first for Lamar in 2023 yeah that’s I’m not going on that path Cincy says I know life isn’t fair but it just shouldn’t be it’s inconceivable this seems two and six Jet fan should stop showing up and supporting this team Jake you need a better help sponsor well people tell me that these postgame shows are like therapy so maybe we do need better help to jump on board so people can get actual therapy CU I’m definitely not a like therapist I’m just a disgruntled angry pissed off Jet fan Dre says same old Jets Jets sorry Jake they suck so bad Dre I’m starting to think Garrett Wilson might not score 28 touchdowns this season Bud starting to think it’s not gonna happen shim Shack Collectibles my condolences for y’all Die Hard Jet fans here’s a drink on me Rogers needs to fix their o and D lines hope your kicker walked home yeah I mean just Greg remember Greg the leg Good Times yo cat says we’re at a point where we need to trade some of the young pieces for draft picks for a rebuild I mean are we or could this GM come in and say Hey There is some Talent here why don’t we try and hire the right coaching that could get the most out of it you know just an idea play Devil’s Advocate so blow the whole thing up and Hope that the GM then can hit on these picks that we have no idea what they’re going to be maybe I don’t know we keep a Garrett Wilson who’s really good you know and and we try and win games we keep coincy Williams we hire a good head coach and we hire you know a good general manager and we try and win like what Washington was able to do immediately or what Houston was able to do immediately look by the way go look at the 2022 draft right look at the draft order look at the top five of that draft each of those teams besides the Jets has already made the playoffs since that historic draft class the Jets had Jacksonville’s made it Detroit has made it even the Giants had a year where they didn’t suck and they made the playoffs with Daniel Jones Houston has made it they’re gonna make it again so seriously that was in 2022 right doesn’t take that long to be a playoff team in today’s NFL where seven teams get in go look at the 2022 draft and of the teams in the top five that year right the sa Garrett draft only the Jets have not made the postseason rebuilds don’t need to take forever PBM rights and he called me on the radio tonight since 2019 we’d forced 200 fumbles and recovered to you know I actually believe that stat soodak jet says with Woody hiring you gotta consider keeping JD I guess I would not I would not I I’ll roll the dice on hiring some other someone else he’s 29 and 62 guys all right he BOS the head coach higher he BOS the quarterback he boted the kicking situation he boted the backup quarterback situation last year he’s gonna get to hire a second head coach really Maurice says would you hire guden next year you know that a team wouldn’t have the penalties and Fon effort we would be competitive yeah I would consider John Gruden now he’s suing the NFL so I don’t know if he could get back in but I would consider it I mean when got fired it was three and two with the Raiders you know he’s won a Super Bowl before he’s experienced he’s an offensive mining guy I don’t hate the idea would he still do his YouTube show if he was the jet coach and if so would he want to come on my show once a week to discuss the Jets uh M writes in I think kingsberry can win here with Jordan Travis I don’t know what Jordan Travis is he’s a day three pick no team is being like all right Jordan Travis you’re the guy like he’ll get a chance to probably compete for a job next year if they go with a rookie as far as Cliff Kingsbury look people laugh I don’t think that’s the worst idea right we’re starting to see know maybe a failed head coach first time around Second Time Around they’re going to be better Dan Quinn Todd BS you know but if we’re gonna go that route I would hire Mike Rabel because he actually was pretty good and Titans fans were shocked they fired him Aluna writes in we needed Sunny Weaver coach Penn Bo Callahan Dante Mack to get this franchise turned around let me tell you something Sunny Weaver was a bad general manager all right he got lucky all right he’s so concerned about banging Jennifer Gardner than actually being a GM during the draft I believe please Sunny Weaver is an overrated general manager Harry Ron I’m a 69y old Jets fan I think I will not live long enough to see another Jets Super Bowl Harry I hate to be morvid but you’re Pro I’m just kidding I don’t know I I I hope that’s not true all right I hope that’s not true I I I I wish I could tell you for sure that you’re going to see another Super Bowl but you know I’ve been a Jet fan my whole life and I haven’t come close to experiencing a Super Bowl so I don’t know Cheeseman says woke up for my alcohol induced nap and I’m sad today’s game wasn’t just a dream so much pain nightmare Richard said Niner fan here firing Salah broke this team they were not going to win anything with Salah but I think it’s clear firing him has just expedited how bad it’s gotten you know what I mean like they were they were not going to win anything with Salah so I under I almost understood what what he was doing with that decision but obviously he’s got to know better to do it right because the thing with that move is he he apparently didn’t really talk with Joe Douglas about it he just did it don’t you got to consult with your GM and be sure it’s the right move before you do it before you make that emotional decision I don’t know I can’t sit here and say I disagreed with it I thought it was a little soon I thought he was getting fired though they lost to the bills so he did a week earlier than we expected I think he just expedited the [ __ ] show but this team was going nowhere anyway Allison wres and I think Zach is behind us mad causing games let me try and re re reread this here I think it’s Zach behind us Mass causing games I we’ll come back to that one Allison uh Cheeseman Conor should be GM I would have more faith in Conor long than anyone would he might hire GM says Jake they have a good squad except for a few pieces it’s coaching a new head coach will instill discipline and attitude Ben Johnson and Rex if think Rex Ryan’s coming back to the Jets as a DC you’re nuts you’re nuts Rex is either the head coach or he’s not coming here big fellow we’re five and three Greg makes his damn kicks how the hell does he still have a job because his GM is asleep Clemens needs to pack his bleep too and jets fashion we win Thursday I love the injet fashion they’re not winning Thursday I’ll be there big fell though I’ll be watching the game with you I can’t wait I’m wearing a he won’t be able to fly me though I’ll be the guy with a bag on my head Mr juano got no words for this team season on the line and you can’t stop per set when it matters most Stadium will be empty fans can only take so much go Jets agreed Tony says 750 Miller liter of Jameson Black Barrel to the Head sounds painful Robert writes in maybe if he was called Greg twolegs he’d be good Greg the peg leg I mean he can’t kick man oh scurvy he’s like a pirate with his Peg Leg uh if you’re one of the 2200 people still watching right now first off thank you you guys are awesome can we get over a thousand likes we’re at 675 and more importantly I’m close to 40,000 subscribers we are the largest jet Channel on YouTube and that’s because of the great community so if you guys could please click that subscribe button it goes a long way and uh by the way let me throw this out there I should have mentioned it earlier but I got distracted Yankee fans I’m hosting a game four watch party at vanderbelt Market which is right next to Grand Central for game four of the World Series hopefully the Yanks win tomorrow and game four is to try and even up the series either way Yankee Dodgers watch it with me and the ESPN New York street team be doing a meet and greet with listeners beforehand I’ll be there at seven first pitch just after eight all the info is on my social media but Vanderbilt market for game four of the World Series right next to Grand Central Station in Midtown Manhattan all right Derek says Salah gets fired our D quit on us yep big fellow says sa got beat by a guy named booty I mean s’s play is booty right now and I’ve defended s a little bit right some games I didn’t think he was bad he just wasn’t targeted I’m not defending him today he sucked today he was awful on those last two touchdown Drives By New England all right we went to our youngest Jet fan first why don’t we go to one of our oldest OG Jet fans that supports this show I was with him in person today watching this debacle ladies and gentlemen Neil is up next hello Neil Jake my brother Jake my brother Neil can I ask you something what was the reaction like as the Patriots scored the touchdown because I already went into the back room where I had the radio equipment set up because I had to do the show so what was the reaction M inside tqu as one of the worst nightmares that we’ve ever experienced was culminating in real time well let me set the scene I had my cigar in hand I was in the golf simulator and there were two hockey sticks there right so I envisioned when the game was finally over and we won that I was going to grab two hockey sticks and do the thing like this with hockey sticks and every as Maniac was going to to be behind me and I was going to Puff on a cigar with Joe B and everybody G to go J we were gonna have the big celebration then it came to reality and you know look Jo be these guys we all seen this thing we’ve seen this play a thousand times it’s like going to the longest play on Broadway and going to it every single night and expecting something different to happen okay my wife want a divorce okay anyway now okay now my wife’s not in a great mood God she put you in a Darkness Retreat Neil I I am in the darkness now let me just say it started this whole mess started way back in free agency if you remember I had a rant like Peter that we didn’t do anything the first day of free agency we didn’t take any of the bigname free agents we waited because Joe Douglas is so smart that he waited he got Tyron Smith for $6 A5 million doll instead of getting somebody for $60 million who could actually block okay then we wanton got rid of uh Breece Huff who was one of our better players well that’s the criticism right I mean like if you’re gonna point to the GM’s offseason moves it’s this defensive line which was a strength the last two years of the team completely had its legs taken out from under it with dumping jfm for nothing not replacing Bryce hub’s production the reic situation is a disgrace when you had Clowney in your building could have had him and I said it in real time so I don’t feel bad saying it now and then the other thing is jfm getting hurt like they they weren’t prepared for it because think about it this defense for two years suffered no major injuries and now they lose jfm in week two they haven’t been the same or they they lose uh JJ in week two and they haven’t been the same defense but let me ask you a question if you’re the GM and your job is on the line right and you lose J JJ the second game of the season right why not in an allout win season give Ric 22 million or 25 million and let the guy be in shape now I know we’re all bitching at reic okay you can’t expect the guy to come in here and start sacking people when he’s been sitting on a sofa for six months okay let’s start with that okay and fairness all right Quinton Jefferson we let walk out the door who did we him with who are our fatties on the off defensive line to stop the run where was our replacement for Al Woods where was our replacement so we don’t do any of those things okay and JD gets a pass no it no now talking about coaching in-game situations okay I look at Spagnola I look at defensive coordinators it’s the last Drive of the game we have all three of our Corners our second is intact right now and what who were their receivers booty schmoody and cudy that can’t even catch a football so why don’t we I have an idea why don’t we all have Blitz brassette who can’t move like the like the quarterback he replaced and at least all out Blitz the guy and make him Panic into a throw that maybe creates a turnover or something substantial could happen and they never forc turnover so why not try and do something different because you you don’t have the same Personnel they that’s what I mean when they’re poorly coached they do not have the same Personnel they’ve had the last couple years but they still run the same defense it’s the same four players at the end of the game we still see Michael Clemens going like this with the defense offensive tackle having a wrestling match while Brett’s back there looking down field and getting a shot to do something you got an allout Blitz in that situation because it nothing they do the same thing over and over over and over again they try out zurine they do this they do that now I made a lot of money today because you know the 15,000 a year I spend between season tickets and traveling to see this game there is no way in God’s green earth that I’m giving another $15,000 to this team I don’t give a [ __ ] if they put me my conditions are going to be as follows okay I will resign my season tickets if if and only if we have our draft selections made by the as maniacs domy and uh green bean and jets the other guy 247 let’s make them select okay because this is not your thing Jake the draft thing is not your thing so let’s St guys be the draft Allen selects the the general manager and defensive and offensive coordinator I will make those my conditions for me to reup my season to I want you in the head coaching interviews with Woody the GM interview that let me just say this to you and I have the answer for the coaching situation because the reality is this I don’t want to blow this team up we have a real good roster Talent now we had very good roster Talent back in the day when we hired Bill Parcels right because Bill Parcels came and we had a a quarterback who was also at the end of his career Brett Favre and Vinnie test verie oh no what we had Vinnie Testa verie but you talking about Parcels in 97 and 98 or yeah yeah yeah yeah okay back that up okay now when we came into that coaching change okay he immediately made us a better team because we had a good roster we had a very shitty defense the that year that he came in and who straightened out that defense Jake and made a top five who who was the coach Bill belich the co no I mean you know I agree with you that I on hang on I’m not finished I’m not finished please let me get my words in because I could probably never call you again because my wife’s divorcing me for she said don’t go on a show anymore but what what was the problem what did you do you know she she’s she I told her I I’m I’m I’m giving up on the Jets she was very happy because she doesn’t have to watch it either because she watches the games and gets just as miserable as me but she wants me not to root for them anymore so she has the reason not to roof them but the good news is I’m gonna be Halloween at my house in East mares my wife makes these beautiful big candy things like five pieces of candy like $10 a piece now what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna offer all the trick-or-treaters that come to my house the rest of my tickets for the rest of this year but I guess they’re going to not take the tickets and take the candy instead I guess that’s going to be the answer when I get to the door ready to people to take your tickets off your hands I know but but and you have amazing seats for those who don’t know I’ve sat I sat with Neil for the opener last year and Neil’s right on the 50 yard line they’re incredible seats but let me just say this to you Josh McDaniel with Aaron roders as the OC Matt Patricia as the defensive coordinator I can’t de this listen to me bich will make the defense better and he will work well and win with an existing roster we have have you heard what he said about what he John first off belich I think is beyond overrated because look at it his winning percentage without Brady is worse than Rex Ryan’s career winning percentage let’s start there what this winning record with Brady we have Brady we have we don’t though he’s not he’s not Brady man he’s he’s first off he’s 41 Brady didn’t suffer an Achilles at age 40 like Aaron has and and and what we’re seeing here clearly is the team is not as talented as the team that Brady went to right Brady went to a team that had more Talent than ultimately this Jets team had unfortunately this jet team has the talent Jake they but they don’t they don’t have the coaching right now Neil and belich che’s not coming here but I don’t I don’t hate the idea of hiring someone with experience and saying hey Aaron you could maybe be the quarterback next year but they have to also have a succession plan in place where they’re probably drafting someone in the first round like it can’t be all about we’re doing whatever we can do to make a run with Rogers it’s hey Aaron you’re can be the quarterback if you want to be here for one more year because you’re under contract and we got to have another plan in place where we don’t just throw a rookie out there to the Wolves maybe he’s sitting for a year and developing because the last time they tried that Chad Pennington sat behind Vinnie and that worked so maybe they need to do that with Aaron this time right that makes sense but the reality is what about the coach what about having a coach that could make the most out of the existing roster we have rather than trying these you know look if you’re going to hire Mike Vel okay that’s like getting the the Gerard Mayo why why coaching tree guy he’s better than that he went to an AFC Championship game with Ryan ten but he was six and 10 his last season he got fired yeah because look at look at will Levis that was his quarterback the one the one quarterback the Jets were able to beat this year I think look reality Wise It’s either Chucky Gruden or bill bellich with the existing r that we have or we tear the whole goddamn thing down and start from scratch and suck for another 10 years because we’re not going to be good for another 10 years if we don’t keep the existing roster and take a shot with what we have and your wife might kill you over the next 10 years and you won’t experience any winning uh yeah I understand that I don’t anticipate look we both agree and the chat agrees this roster is a good roster it we’ll be there next year we’ll make a few tweaks we’ll get rid of all the crap one-year deals we signed and maybe get something better but I trust let me just say this to you when bill bich came in with our defense we turned into such a great defense because he could take mediocre talent and make the best defense out of it 30 it’s 30 years ago Jake I’ve made all 13 of my points before you cut me off again I’m gonna throw myself out this God damn window I I can’t do the bellich stuff first off he’s never coming here he he has continuously shat on Woody Johnson every week since they fired Salah he knows he’s never coming here and wood he would never hire him I agree with the premise of though hiring someone with experience so I’d look at Rabel I’d look at Gruden I’d also look at the Browns are actually gonna fire Kevin stefansky that’d be my number one choice this guy’s been a two-time coach of the year he’s an offensive minded guy he’s young I I would hire him but you need to hire a GM first and by the way Neil go look at brail’s record 9 and seven n and seven 11 and five 12 and five went went to an AFC title game with tanah Hill yeah obviously the last year was ugly there but there were a lot of factors outside of his control that’s why Titans hands were Furious they fired him I I I think what it comes down to is this you got to get the GM higher first and then the coaching hire then you figure it out if that GM wants to retool I’m okay with that approach because I don’t think you blow everything up there’s going to be some changes you make along the margin sure but like why AR we in such a rush to trade Garrett Wilson or Jermaine Johnson or Breece or sauce you don’t think with better coaching and a better kicking game this team can’t be competing for a playoff spot next year look at the commanders how much different is their roster oh wait they hit on coach and quarterback the Texans I guys I did ra radio in Houston for six years my last year on the air in Houston the Texans were picking second overall they blew the number one pick because Lovey Smith at a spite won the last game of the season costing them Bryce young how’s that working out and now look what’s happened they luck into CJ stra they got the head coaching higher right with Deo Ryan and their Championship Contender these rebuild don’t have to take you know forever it doesn’t have to take 10 years of sucking the Jets just need to pick the right people it didn’t take the Knicks that long to go from the abyss to actually being a legit Contender look what they did look what Leon Rose inherited in 2020 and some of the moves he made around the players he inherited and then made smart signings smart trades they built it up and then made that final all in move with the toal straight to go for it and entered the year with the second highest odds in the to get to the finals like Dolan’s not a good owner but he got the right people running the show Woody’s got to get the right people running the show that’s where it starts because this GM is not here next year there’s no way and he shouldn’t be all right even if you’re the biggest Joe Douglas truth there ever the justification for Greg zerline kicking today is the biggest slap in the face to anyone who’s a fan of Joe Douglas because I want a GM that learns from his mistakes he’s making the same goddamn mistake he made last year the only difference is it’s not backup quarterback it’s kicker this time you know quarterback you could say well you know it’s hard to learn a new offense if you bring someone in oh well you know like maybe Zach with better team could show you something they were for like the truth there for Joe could explain it a little bit I’m not buying it never have never will but you can’t explain not getting a new kicker this guy’s cost you two games before today and even if they today while we’re not celebrating it at least you have some hope going to Thursday now it’s like what are we talking about kin with a super chat Rogers admitted that he decided to take the five hats on the two-point conversion because he didn’t like the defense who was running the show five hats what do you mean he decided to take the delay a game on the twoo I mean I I don’t know what to tell you kin the reason why had to go for two is because they don’t have a kicker in the first place it all comes back to that today Cincy Matt writes in this channel is what it is because of you Jake only a show as entertaining as this could have Cincy fan watching the show about a two and six New York team at 10 pm on a Sunday I appreciate it thank you to everyone who Tunes in man I I can’t say it enough I get so angry I don’t I feel like a lot of times I I I don’t want my anger to be misconstrued as like not appreciating the people who support the channel because I I love you guys everyone I met today was awesome it’s just e and I’m tired of it man all these great events we’ve done this year we’ve done more events this year than any other year and the team’s two and six it’s fan base deserves so much more Michael says if you’re not willing to trade sauce then trade Reed I would trade DJ Reid and it’s not because I don’t love DJ Reid I just think at two and six he’s someone who’s an expiring contract who you may be able can get a fourth round pick for but who’s making that decision Joe Douglas who I don’t think is here GM Woody Johnson and I don’t think Woody has the Pride to become a seller after he was a buyer two weeks ago I will do it he’ll sell himself on well let’s see what happens after Houston first so then not my plea to Woody would be after the Jets lose to Houston and they’re two and seven can we do it then because this team’s not going anywhere they they they went from being poorly coached to not having a coach I thought oook would be better than this I did I think he stretched too thin you know the first two games I wasn’t ready to necessarily say that because they faced a really good uh you know quarterback and Allen tough circumstance but last week how do you explain this defense getting punched to the mouth and allowing 31 unanswered how do you explain today when with Carter and Reed back I know Mosley got hurt but you know what Jamie sh’s a better player at this stage than Mosley is anyway it’s not an excuse how do you excuse what happened at the end of this game today how J Mo says I watch a lot of jets YouTube content the amount of white guys thinking that hiring a known racist to coach mostly back black players is insane I would be careful when you use the word racist all right all right maybe do a little homework on what exactly John Grom got fired for in the context of it and all that and also not defending what he said but it wasn’t but you know I’m I I don’t want to go down I don’t want to do this I don’t want to go down that path not touching it I don’t have it in me right now jetpack writes in we will never experience Joy again will we I mean I hope oh we’ll probably have joy in the offseason the Jets will hire some slam dunk candidate that everyone’s praising just like Joe Douglas just like Robert Salah and then slowly but surely after the first three and out I’ll have super chats from people saying fire so and so and the cycle will repeat I can picture it now folks Jets hire the can’t miss GM candidate can’t miss coaching candidate they start the year at home against the Dolphins in the home opener Jets blow a game they should win probably lose 2320 and the first call I get on the postgame show next September will be from this guy saying fire everybody now on alert fraud alert Trin alert alert nobody likes the ship bag oh Jacob what’s going on um when Neil on Friday said that this was gonna be an easy win that should have been his final call okay and tell Neil by the way uh bill bich you have a better chance of coaching this team than Bill bich he has absolutely no desire to come here I don’t want him either way I do not want him either he’s never coming here and I don’t want him either okay for those who continue to defend this GM at 33 games under 500 I don’t I don’t understand someone needs to expl I understand bonesy loves him and there are other people in this chat who think he’s the greatest thing because Zac and maccagnan were incompetent but it’s time 33 games under 500 it’s over and again we will tell you right now you will never hear from him again the next time you will hear about Joe Douglas is when he becomes a player Personnel guy in the Philly or the Baltimore organization he will never speak again as a Jets GM no he’ll be on TV man he’ll be he’ll he’ll be on TV like tanon bom and every other failed GM and Coach he’ll be on USB he’ll be a cooworker my by next year watch but the problem I have with the Jets now is they’re stuck okay they’re two and six we’re what nine 10 days away from the trade deadline and you made this point correctly why have him here still trading our assets he’s going to be gone anyhow I mean this is where woody it caught himself in a bind when he praised the GM a couple of weeks ago he cannot be the guy who’s gonna be trading these players he just can’t he’s not gonna be here next year well that’s probably why they’re gonna do nothing that’s to your point that’s why I don’t see them making like they might trade Mike Williams gee like oh like okay here get ready for the old hey we’re gonna get we’re going to trade a seven to get a six back the old pick swap like that’s what’s going to happen here it may I I had an issue last year when they held on to Huff and didn’t treat him when they had an opportunity to do and they got they let him go a 10 and a half sack guy for nothing and I at least last year at least last year they were four and three at the trade deadline it made more sense not to jettison your best pass rusher year you know what I mean like this year there’s no justification for not trying to see what’s out there for some of these veterans on oneye deals so to me I I would call the Lions uh again I I talk about the Lions all the time the Lions their quarterback threw for 85 yards and they scored 52 points today which is bananas okay if I was them they know they need help on defense I would call them and say Here’s DJ Reid and here’s Hassan reik for the year and see what you can get out of him those are the two guys right now who I think you can get the most for I would trade them both before another team trades them a pass rusher and a defensive back again this team is going absolutely nowhere right now why hold on to these guys it’s ridiculous and again I blame Woody as much as I blame everybody else but you gotta fire this GM before making these moves he cannot be the one making these moves because he’s gone in less than two months it’s she’s not gone unless he’s not gone which is scary but unless he’s not gone the idea that he keeps his job at 33 games under 500 let’s say they finished seven and 10 okay the idea that he comes back another season is when you realize this organization is not serious I I I agree with you I agree I agree he has to go I don’t get it I understand he had four nice players in the 2022 draft but you look at the rest of his job he hired the wrong coach he drafted the wrong quarterback he picked the wrong offensive tackle and again he cannot keep his job and one other thing about this SAU Garder okay I know he’s GNA ask for $25 million plus he’s the guy I definitely worry about on a second contract he’s afraid to tackle anybody and now he’s just struggling against mid-tier wide receivers it’s ridiculous he doesn’t turn people over he’s afraid to hit anybody and this is the same guy in the next two years who’s going to ask for $30 million a year again I would trade him this offseason I really would I do I I would trade him and if you’re gonna bring in a new GM and you look at this roster I know Neil says it’s such a great roster maybe it’s not they have talent but sometimes I think people in this chat and I agree I’m one of them maybe we overhype some of this Talent maybe Garrett Wilson isn’t a number one maybe s Gardner isn’t a great great player maybe Germaine Johnson isn’t a number one pass rusher maybe it’s time to realize it didn’t work and unfortunately you have Aaron maybe for another season I that’s why they’re stuck they don’t know who they’re gonna I have no idea who they’re gonna hire because I don’t think any of the top candidates will come here I think they’re gonna get a retread maybe a Rabel hopefully if guden uh settles his lawsuit maybe he comes here but none of the hot young line offensive coaches or defensive coaches or even topnotch defensive coordinators are going to want to deal with this [ __ ] it’s ridiculous that that’s the one push back I’ll have Allan I I it’s still one of 32 it pays incredibly well these jobs are really hard to get you could still get good candidates the Jets remind me a lot of like the Chargers from last year right like there there’s some Talent there and they just need the coach this team’s more talented than that charger team that Harbaugh took over as far as trading sauce you’re trading him now when his value is terrible like what’s the I don’t know if I’m giving him an extension right let him play on the fourth year of his five-year rookie contract you know sa hasn’t had a good year right at times you know his coverage is still good but he’s not coming up with turnovers tackling leaves a lot to be desired we knew that but when he’s shutting everyone down making plays and he’s leading the NFL in pass deflections you live with it like d wasn’t a good tackler he’s not revas we know that but SAU has just been bad at times this year but the the one push back I have is oh no one’s going to want to come here I don’t buy that I know I think I’m now allergic to the Jets they’re killing me uh some more Super chats here J Mo writes in I watch a lot of actually I already read that one never mind um Uno Jets love my Jets but I desperately need a Jets break if they do something crazy like putting on a winning streak together maybe they’ll will me in back season but I doubt it peace well thanks for the Super Chat I mean it’s too late for a winning streak unless the winning streak is now nine wins in a row what are we talking about all right that’s really it I mean they needed to go eight and two I thought to guarantee a playoff spot they already just lost one of those two losses so now can they go eight and one the rest of the way no no jetpack says I remember talking to you in London about how our fan base was going to meltdown going two and three if we lost feels like 10 years ago I can’t believe it’s as bad yeah jetpack I remember that conversation well it was right before I convinced you to sack up and go say hi to win bet who was at our party which by the way he did so credit to Jetpack he got his photo with Wayne um it’s bad man I mean I I never could have imagined it’ be this bad though like once again I said this on the radio a lot tonight like even if you were pessimistic fan of this team even if you didn’t believe this team was actually G to be as good as some thought like I thought they’d win the division two and six with this team this team still is talented I don’t think you got to tear everything down you obvious ly I think should think long and hard about moving some guys you can get something for now DJ Reed Tyler Concklin Etc but to blow the whole thing up and Trey sauce and Garrett and D like I don’t think that’s the right move necessarily I think you bring in a GM you bring in a coach you have an honest conversation with Rogers saying hey you could be the quarterback next year but we’re also going to be drafting a guy we’re going to make moves in the best interest of the long term we’re not all in the try and win this year like we were by getting you Devonte and signing Tyron Smith and Mike Williams now we’re going to be trying to make moves for sustain winning but you could still be the quarterback if that’s what Rogers wants to do he might say I’m good I’m gonna retire but like they have now fallen to a point where the decisions need to be about the Jets and winning Beyond this year because they’re not winning this year all the other moves were made to try and win with this roster around the quarterback it’s over that is now sailed so now it’s who are the football people that are running the team and what is their plan to try and get this team on track it doesn’t need to take five years I laugh when it’s like well Douglas needed time look what he inherited do you see what Nick cerio inherited in Houston you see what Brad Holmes inherited in Detroit you see what Adam Peters inherited in Washington seriously Joe Douglas’s best draft was 2022 the thing we all point to 2022 look at the five teams that picked in the top five in 2022 Jacksonville they made the playoffs and won a playoff game and they’re not in any good right they’re not good but they give their fans more than the Jeet fan is team Detroit duh look at their season look what they did last year Houston won the division last year won a playoff game a contender this year Jets nothing Giants even won a playoff game two years ago that that’s another name by the way if dble got fired I’d consider it I would I don’t think he’s a bad coach I think he’s been given a crap quarterback hand and if I’m the Jets and I’m picking in the top three and Brian dble gets a chance to pick his quarterback to develop long term I gotta think about that just saying the jet if the Jets at dable as their coach they’re not two and six big will rights in Rex coach manini GM Back to the Future Baby that make Joe B happy I don’t agree with tanon BM but I’m telling you Rex is going to get an interview to be a head coach again I don’t know if they’ll hire him but he’s going an interview and you know what at least Rex would want this job and he and he would hold people accountable and he would understand how to do it the type of people you need in your locker room type of coaches you got to hire Rex hired an amazing coaching staff in 2009 look at some of those coaches he had man look how many future head coaches were on the jet staff Tyler with a super chat firing solid was a mistake brick has too much on his plate defense has gotten worse since his firing no GM or head coach will come here with Rogers Well I I I don’t agree with that I really don’t I think you would need to make it very clear to the GM though and Aaron Rogers hey like he’s under contract he’s expressed playing Beyond this year assuming Aaron still wants to do that you have options with what you want to do with the direction of the team it doesn’t have to be to play Kate trying to maximize the window of this quarterback it’s hey if you believe in a guy in the first round and you’re picking in the top five you could take them and I don’t think it’d be the worst idea for a quarterback to sit for a year because I think other places you could throw the guy out there maybe they have success Houston less pressure Washington same thing I think New York’s a different animal man I think when you throw Sam darnold out there and Zach Wilson out there and unfortunately you throw Gino out there I think it takes a toll and the one time the Jets had success with this strategy was Pennington he sat for three years which will never happen anymore in today’s NFL but is it the worst idea to do that the fact that we’ even having this discussion on October 27th brings me so much pain you have no idea but it needs to be had ISC says I think you should let Australian Jet fan on is he Australian or from Austria we were still trying to figure that out Doug writes in if we had kept cyber we would have five wins right now and I was at the game and some dag Pats fan was trying to fight me all game awful experience I’m sorry Doug all right more of your calls we will not be able to get to everyone because I’m exhausted but I will try to squeeze in as many as we can Ken from San Diego is up next what’s up Ken how’s it going Jake can you hear me Kan I hear you Ken I hear you hey I spoke to you earlier today I you know I kind of didn’t call last week I thought maybe we we’d switch things up and we’d win but that didn’t happen um listen hey we talked about the coach and we talked about the organization I think Allan hit on something really important which is everybody’s talking about what we should do you know who’s gonna do it I mean Joe Douglas is not GNA be here next year so we’re not gonna be prepared for the draft really because we’re gonna have to get a whole new GM and I don’t know if you want Joe Douglas to be cutting deals for DJ Reed or or any of our players right now he’s not going to be here next year so that’s really um interesting uh Rogers is heard I I think I I hear all these people complaining about Rogers four games ago he was moving around now he can’t move I mean he’s gotten hammered people got to go ahead and give that guy a little bit more credit I know everybody’s blaming Rogers but uh you know I just don’t think that’s really fair um anyone who thinks that we’re going to go two and what would it be two and 15 or crazy the Jets will absolutely screw up any um chance of us getting an early round pick we’ll get really hot when it means nothing like you said and we’ll get seven eight wins this Mee this year the only thing I think we could do really as an organization right now is people like you people like me we want a little blood and so zerline needs to be cut Clemens needs to be cut and there are some other players that you know who I just don’t I mean I did not like the way Sarat played today he didn’t make a a lot of plays that he should have made I thought but we we got to go ahead and at least show the organization that we’re not a complete clown show so thanks for what you do I feel a lot better after four hours listening to you and uh go Jets Ken appreciate you thanks for listening to the radio show and and this show is always it’s tough you know one of the other things Allan said too is uh who’s going to come here like and Joe Ka has made this point too like one narrative that I don’t think is true with the Jets is that you know they don’t have patience with the people they hire Joe Douglas has had a 100 games as general manager Robert solo got 56 games Todd BS got 64 games Mike mcag got 64 games the Jets are too patient with their candidates so you could sell to a guy you’re gonna have plenty of time to turn it around because look at our history like Robert Salah got fired midseason the Jets have never fired a coach mid-season under Woody Johnson I mean they’re clown show right now there’s no doubt but it’s still one of 32 and the team still does have talent on it joke absolute joke ladies and gentlemen 25 joins us he was at the watch party today hello 25 what’s good brother uh first off I’m going to start off with I wish I was the way I was at the Steelers game on this [ __ ] watch party right now because I I don’t feel like I should be all hunky dory right now I I really don’t but at the same time like I’m just I’m over it I I’m over it um I got a lot to say so hopefully you and all the viewers can bear with me but first of all T squar was great man I I I loved it I didn’t even realize it was you tapping me on the back after that touch down and then I looked over I was like that’s that’s Jake all right all right and then my brother it’s a watch party I mean to touch that right right and then um my brother he’s uh my little brother I brought him with me all my boys who were supposed to come all their girlfriends took them away from me bro like it’s just I I become single and and it’s just whatever so I brought my little brother with me and he’s a big cigar guy so I’m like listen before you go out and smoke a cigar go find Jake see if Neil’s here he’s a big cigar guy maybe you and him can [ __ ] smoke a cigar whatever um and I think he went and talked to you either way um see seeing you nice briefly briefly met you whatever would adapt you up that was great but the entire game I wasn’t I wasn’t confident in the Jets the entire the entire time and I don’t think you were there the last Drive of the Patriots uh like the last like you know like whatever one minute of the game but I was laughing the entire time like I just I didn’t know what to do like it’s just a joke at this point this team had fans on their knees in t squared on their knees watching this team just ruin their season and and like the the train ride back to East isip was was long man and I was I was laughing during that time but I took my jersey off I slammed it on the table I was so mad uh and and thinking about the the entire game on the ride home was even worse like I am mad right now at this point we need the military to step in the military needs to round up this team and and take them to Guantanamo Bay this is 25 thanks for the time man good God nice to meet you the military oh we’re down bad right now hey Kenny’s in the chat he’s watching on X Kenny Kenny Kenny from Staten Island baby best part about today was Jake’s watch party T social great menu Kenny I’m glad I got to see you man thank you for coming I hope you enjoyed the private section I Gave You Kenny we got we got Kenny joob B Neil Big Rob own in a private little area roped off for those four Legends OG Jet fans Jim B says Matt Nei might be a good hire I I don’t know about that one I’m I’m not saying you can’t interview him but I think the Jets would get clowned if they hired him now look to be fair to naggie he obviously had poor quarterback play in Chicago and I think he went to the playoffs that first year with trabis but I don’t know I think there’s other guys out there I’d prefer before I would go with with naggie not going to completely just say no way man but I think there’s other guys first all right we’re approaching nearly two hours here so let’s try and get a couple more in before we get to that two hour mark Australian Jet fan is next hello Australian Jet fan Oh Hey Jake how you doing what’s up man ah so basically like I think I think we’re all just in pain like I got up at 4:00 A.M in the morning to watch this game and by the third quarter I was just thinking like I I just had that feeling like they’re they’re going to throw it away again like I I didn’t have any faith by the third quarter and like you know it’s a problem when you’re playing the Patriots the wor the second worst team in the league because I’m gonna say we’re the worst team in the league and you have that feeling like why is it that I have less faith in the Jets than I had in Zack Wilson last season like it’s horrendous like you you look and the it comes from the top like you can tell that a um franchise is dysfunctional when the GM and the r aren’t even communicating like I’m I’m going to like to conclude I’m going to say that you know the Jets this year haven’t been disappointing they’ve been insufferable yeah I look I’m sorry I’m sorry that you got to get up at 4 in the morning to uh to watch this man it’s just they they they’ve broken their hardcore fans they have because the way they’ve lost these games have been excruciating you know it’s not like they like we’ve seen bad jet teams like they just get beat but like this team hasn’t been like out talented in any of these games they just been out efforted out hustled they they just they’re made of glass like I don’t know man I wish I knew the hamburger next hey hamburger what’s up Jake hanging in man hanging in listen I’m I’m going to go back to last week when I said well I’m going to go back to the bills you know I said you know the defense don’t look the same since alrick took over the team lack of attent lack of attention to detail with the defense since he’s been gone and been a head coach there been a problem and then at the end of the Steelers game last week what did I say four games this year yep four games and I did not think they were gonna beat the Patriots tonight I listen man I’ve watched a lot of jet football in my life and what I seen today what first quarter all three timeouts like come on bro like who does that nobody but bro even for jet standards that is a new level of an aptitude like I’ve never seen that in my life watching any football game yeah my my wife was down here and she was like doing her nails up on the bar watching a game I don’t think I’ve cursed so violently in my house thank God my kids weren’t home they were at my in-laws like every play was like ridiculous with like the the mother effers that came out of my mouth the entire game and then you know we leave I leave here we didn’t even finish the game I go in the car and I got to drive I’m hung over from last night from my party I just I don’t want to deal with it anymore will I watch yeah like the rest of us we’ll all watch but listen Joe Doug Joe Douglas look I said his name right I didn’t say Joe Davis uh Joe Douglas Joe Douglas he’s gone he’s got to be gone and you you’ve heard it from my mouth that you know he’s not going to be gone I think they’re going to keep him at this point they can’t like they can’t they can’t entrust him to make any decisions at the point Allen’s right on that and I hate saying Allen’s right on anything um but it’s it it’s over my neighbor all all happy we’re going we’re going to the Super Bowl dude it’s over it is over it was over last week it’s over four wins Max they ain’t G to they’re not going to get the number one pick picking the draft we can’t do that right either so listen I’m not abandoning the show I’ll still be around hey I appreciate you man great call yeah I’ll be I’ll be back on during the week I ain’t gonna not listen so you at least have this fan here thank you man I appreciate everyone who’s GNA tune in man I the viewership is about to go I’ve seen this too many times unfortunately so the people who are here every day the people who were here in July when there was nothing going on or late June or whatever I truly appreciate it by the way this show is available on podcast form now so search Jake ASM Chell on Apple or Spotify if you so choose best way to support me I always see people asking about this patreon go to my patreon it’s linked in the description you get bonus shows discounts on every uh merch item uh your name in the intro we’re going to update the list of names here coming up for November and you also get Discord access where you commiserate with all your favorite as Maniacs patreon.com Jasmin show in fact let’s give a shout out to David pearlmutter who signed up during this postgame show just got the alert shout out to David MOS barar who signed up for the year you save 15% when you do that miss lady deas Paul cubrick and Joseph Nao for being our most recent patreon subscribers uh my dad just texted me I’ll read you guys this text here so for those to late I was on ESPN New York today from 4 to eight and now we’re doing this we’re two hours in so six hours talking about this debacle he goes haven’t you had enough go eat well to a dad I’ll tell you I got my Uber Eats order right here my GrubHub order we’re ready to order some Taco Bell so don’t worry we’ll be eating uh 25 says I do not what I said it’s hyperbole to explain how hard this team is I get it 25 if you want to call in the military do it 25 says feel like Cowboys fans right now Woody acting like Jerry yeah but at least Jerry’s Jerry’s teams win in the regular season all right right Jerry’s teams have won 12 GE 12 games in a row or have had three straight seasons of 12 or more wins you could you could add up the last couple years of Jets football and you wouldn’t get the 12 wins in in some scenarios brutal Peter Castro Jr is on the line hello Peter Castro Jr how you doing Jake uh long fan of your show I know my my dad calls in all the time to you wait a second wait a second I was curious I thought it was maybe a bit are you actually Peter’s son I am Peter’s son wow okay I love it I your dad called me on the radio tonight oh okay okay well I I always watch the show a big fan but I had to finally come out of hiding tonight CU I can’t take it anymore it’s like every single time I get my hopes up I’m let down it’s another season in the garbage before Halloween and I have to tell you I know my father’s always told you um you know the the biggest problem going into the season that Joe Douglas and wood he went along with was bringing back this coaching staff and this coaching staff is really the ultimate reason the constant of the last couple of Seasons where you’ve seen the defense get progressively worse each year they’re they don’t come out to play they’re not motivated at all and it’s if it’s all facets of the game if it’s the not the kicker we take the lead and then the defense can’t get a stop and I think that what they have to do now is Joe Douglas as much as I gave him a lot of benefit of the dad over the years I have to say that he was the one that went out and hired Salah he made some some good and bad picks along the way but this coaching staff may be the worst staff in all of football and they’ve actually taken a very talented team and broken them now so I I like you say Where Do We Go From Here I think that we have to get a guy in here that commands a lot of respect and we have to get a new GM first let him go out and get the coach do it the right way this time let’s keep the core guys I know you said Garrett Wilson he should be here he he he wants to be a jet he’s he’s a guy that wants to win Bree tall is the one player that I love this guy I think that with the right coaching staff he could really take off we have some good core pieces but there are some some things that we got to change and I think it’s going to start with the coaching because it’s actually gotten worse without Salah and it’s just really really frustrating which is hard to believe but you’re 100% right Peter and look that’s kind of how I look at it too right like I don’t like there’s been some situations where it’s like you’re starting over from scratch there’s some Talent on this team like he doesn’t need to take forever to build it back up but I think it starts with hiring the right GM and having a real practical approach to if you’re gonna bring Aaron back for one more year okay but you’re still drafting a quarterback or if you’re G to draft the quarterback why not sign a legit veteran on a one-year deal like what the Vikings did with darnold for example and then you have JJ mccarth you know what I mean like it doesn’t need to take forever to build this back up but there needs to be a plan on what you’re going to do with quarterback and obviously you know if you can get the right coach you could turn around the talent on this team and win some games next year like as we’re seeing the AFC is like they’re for to be taken like the bottom there’s going to be a seven seed this year that’s not very good that’s going to make the playoffs and it’s like you have all this Talent like it doesn’t mean anything if you can’t get the right coach in there to Manifest this talent and take it to the the highest of levels because not only is it bad from a coaching standpoint there I agree with you I think we’re actually seeing regression from some of these players because of how bad the coaching is you’re seeing guys maybe like s lose his confidence and that’s what made him great in the first place yeah and the other thing is is that if you think about it I think that Aaron Rogers with as much pride of not wanting to go out like this I think he’s gonna walk away at the end of the year because I think he’s gonna say enough is enough a new staff coming in here is not going to be so thrilled either to be walking into Aaron Rodgers for a year so the only way it would work would be like what you said if he came back one year with the idea no we are drafting a quarterback to sit for a year behind you but I don’t think he’s going to really want a part of that I think he’s going to be out of here and we have to F follow the blueprint of the entire NFL the reason why the Texans and the commanders and all these teams get better is coach and quarterback and you know I know we’ve we’ve missed on a lot of the quarterbacks and we had you know when we had Rex he actually took us uh that team was really really talented I feel like we could have gone to the Super Bowl both of those years and we didn’t we haven’t gotten back to that level yet even though we have talent here but we need a guy that’s going to be a disciplinarian that’s going to hold people accountable that’s everything that I thought Robert Salah would have been when I saw him on the 49er sideline and after a half a year of watching him Jake I knew he wasn’t going to be the right fit and you know I just knew right from then we had four games to win to get to the playoffs two years ago we didn’t do it last year’s excuse was Zach going down I uh I’m sorry uh Rogers going down and Zach coming in there’s no more excuses we’re at the bottom line is the one constant is the same GM and the same rotten coaching staff that gets us nowhere agreed agreed Peter excellent call and while you are not your father I will still play you out like this burline he stinks get him out of here Aaron roders he’s as bad as siman he’s not going to get better he’s 41 with a bad leg he’s terrible amazing I also could have played him in with this if I actually knew that he was actually really Peter Castro Jr the biggest mistake they made is not firing this whole crew of [ __ ] before the season started the coaches can’t make decisions they don’t correct anything I mean this is a joke or I could have played this all coaching staff thanks the team is never bad they’re UND discipline they make a million mistakes and the coaching staff is terrible he doesn’t know what he’s doing happy than him are like having two drag addicts on the sidelines they’re no good and if Roger do the fix this we’re all going to kill ourselves what happens after Rogers they have no plan for that it’s going to be 10 more years of being a [ __ ] you know it’s scary hearing that now because that’s where we are Peter Castro saw the vision 10 more years of being [ __ ] I can’t do it anymore 10 more years I’m worried he’s right everything he said there turned out to be true now what H Keith writes in I’m 41 years old been a Jet fan for 30 years I don’t know how much longer I could do this I never consider Jumping Ship I’m getting close now look if you’re GNA jump ship like you can’t pick another team I’m not gonna tell you you have to spend your Sundays watching the Chets right now I get it it’s tough but you know win or lose or draw be doing this every day I’ll be watching every game and even if I like didn’t do this for a living you can’t pick another team like the Jets are always your team 25 says worse record with a Hall of Fame quarterback than with a third string QB yeah look I they were four and three last year I get it but here’s the thing last year’s Jets were better on defense than this year’s defense last year’s Jets win this game if you had Aaron Rogers even at this state where he’s 40 you can’t move cuz he’s hurt you put him on last year’s team they win more than seven games because the biggest difference between this year’s team and last year’s team is the defense was way better last year way better can’t even compare and Greg zerline didn’t miss last year he missed three kicks all year if they had last year’s Greg zerline the Jets this year have three more wins but you can’t jump [ __ ] all right we’ll do a couple more calls ladies and gentlemen you know there’s been a lot of Rumblings in the chat about the potential of this jet season going off the rails and full disclosure the caller I was going to bring on to set it all up just dropped out so I can’t even make the joke so I’ll save it for another time we’ll say hello to JJ though while we wait hello JJ oh I’m glad I can be a a backup guess thanks for the time JJ let’s say hello to Paul hey Paul hey I didn’t hear you what’s up Paul sitting in the sitting in the bar after that [ __ ] debacle just want to touch base on a few things man for starters we’d be five and three and half this conversation wouldn’t be happening if zeron just just kicked [ __ ] field goals like he did last year I mean five and three is a big difference we’d be a game behind in our division and that’s only because we didn’t get to buy and and instead we’re we’re we implode and and second I understand about the defense but a lot of people really don’t realize how banged up they are defensively which is not good and you know what we had a very healthy two years no one got hurt on the D for two years and we lose a couple players and we’re getting injuries now now that to the point it’s ridiculous and Aaron Rogers everyone’s everyone said it he was fine the first few games those two games in a row when he got sacked like 30 times got hurt I mean why why is it that we can always talk about the past and Brett Favre yeah well guess that’s because Brett Favre won eight games you know before he got hurt but youo Rogers clearly took a pounding them games and again where why was the offensive line so bad and now they’re playing better it this team just this is by far by far the worst season I’ve ever had I’m 53 years old this is the most painful season I have ever lived with the expectations so high to get just crushed as always but it it’s more embarrassing than ever because everybody CRA like my friends are all Steeler fans and they’re just like you know I gotta hear it like always I know Paul I know brother hey look enjoy the drink at the bar yeah you know drown out your sorrows with a couple cocktails and some beers and you know I tell you it will get better but I don’t think it will but no it won’t it’s the same song and dance and you know what there’s no Rhyme or Reason to it even sometimes like like I said jline alone we’d be five and three it’d be a completely different conversation we’d be right in the thick of everything but they still don’t have a kicker and they they went and let that other kid go that was kicking good in preseason and and we don’t have a backup for that they let that kid go so that turns out to be a really bad move and I guess my my last question is what do you what do you um what’s the story with the uh quarterback from from Florida State I mean is he ever is he going to be able to like at least get on the field and sit behind Rogers anytime this year or no uh I don’t think we’re gonna see him at all Paul I don’t I think he’s still getting healthy to my knowledge he hasn’t been cleared yet so he’s not practicing fully he’s around the team he’s a sponge in meetings I’ve been told but no look here’s the thing if they had a better Kicker they would have more wins for sure and you know I’m not going to kill the Jets necessarily for not keeping cyber over the summer right because Greg zerline was coming off an amazing year and if they cut zerline and cyber missed a huge kick early we’d be killing Joe dougas why would you get rid of Greg zerline but once we got past that Bills game and they didn’t add another kicker I went ballistic that week on the show then I know they got blown out but a big part of that blowout I believe was Zer Line’s kick getting blocked when they were down I think they were down seven right and his kick could have cut it to four and like yeah ultimately didn’t matter because he got blown out but like that was a huge momentum changer in the game he missed another kick that night and he missed a kick on the pat because it got blocked but they called a penalty you watch that back probably shouldn’t have been a penalty Jets got a break and then they went for two and they obviously got it he was bad in that game too so you had the Bills game and the Steelers game he was bad after he cost you the Denver game missed an easy kick against New England why was he on the team today Greg mcmanis was signed two games Ago by Green Bay he’s hit two game winning kicks for them that guy was available for the Jets to sign too and Joe Douglas is to blame for this it’s easy to say zerline sucks yeah I don’t think he’s doing it on purpose he was amazing last year how does this GM justify letting this guy kick and that’s why Joe dougas deserves to be fired that’s why I’m not sing for him I’m not defending him he’s got to go you made the same mistake M twice your catastrophic mistake a year ago was neglecting backup quarterback and then doubling down on that neglection after the first game and throughout the year they could have made the playoffs last year if he was a better GM even with solah being a flawed coach even with Zack Wilson sucking all that could have made the playoffs you follow that up to this year and this kicking situation has now cost him at least three games let’s say conservatively two where would the Jets be with two more wins right now we’d have a season if the Jets were four and four with three games coming up against Houston Arizona and Indie you could be six and five with the pie you could have a season Douglas Gotta Go Gotta Go I want to give a huge shout out to Jorge if he’s still watching he might have left already here it is I’m checking out see you next year a $100 Super Chat as Jorge a diard fan sets off into the sun said well Jorge I’m telling you right now that your $100 Super Chat is going to good use my Taco Bell has been ordered folks it will be arriving at 10:48 or 11:03 so thank you Jorge we thank you for your service I also will play this get your ass off my super chats some of these are gifted memberships too he ah the hell with it [Music] 25 says our issues Run Deep have a culture issue or curse look I if we believe the Jets are curs then you know what there’s no hope but the Cubs were cursed until they figured it out the Red Sox were cursed the Cavaliers were cursed all these teams were cursed the Chiefs hadn’t won anything they won Super Bowl four they had never been back then Andy Reid showed up then Mahomes showed up they got it right so I choose to believe as a fan that if the Jets actually hire competent people to their jobs they too can win and this owner at least has shown you it was a long time ago they won with him owning the team right they didn’t win the Super Bowl but they won four road playoff games in a two-year span and went to back-to-back championship games they went to the playoffs in 06 04 01 you know from 2000 to 2016 when Woody owned the team they never had back-to-back losing Seasons no one wants to hear this right now but I look at it like to me it’s a culture problem more so than the team’s cursed you got to get the right people in there man the Knicks sucked Dolan’s not a good owner but they’re good why right people running the show all right we will give JJ another chance but first we heard from Peter Castro Jr we gotta hear from the OG Peter Castro hello Peter hello Jake how are you Jake they cut me off ESPN so quick I couldn’t say anything I know I I uh I I did say something at the break I’m like hey a little quick trigger there to uh my producer I’m like you gotta get you gotta give some respect to the great Peter Caster I had your back I mean it you know just watching this game today first of all the coaching staff all has to go they all have to go including Joe Douglas I want everybody out now in that first quarter when the Jets got the ball and they’re on the other side of the 40 and it’s uh fourth and three all right you think they’re going to the Super Bowl they got no balls go for it any other coach in the NFL would go for it they punt and then when they come off the field when the when the players come off the field yber is shaking their hands like they did something what did they do they did nothing nothing this coaching staff is terrible it has to go he should fire them all tomorrow morning I don’t care who he puts in there he could put Bo Diddy in there would be better than this grw this team is unprepared all right they’re taking good players like Garrett Wilson Breece Hall and Source gard and turning them into [ __ ] and they took a a Hall of Fame quarterback and they’re making him look bad too they don’t know what they’re doing they have no idea about offense they don’t know how to scheme a receiver open it’s impossible every other team in the NFL can scheme a receiver open but the Jets can’t every everybody’s covered like a glove it it’s it’s just sickening I can’t stand watching it between them and the Yankees this week I want to shoot myself well at least the Yankees give you some winning though Peter you know they’re in the World Series they’re in the playoffs every year this team has not been in the playoffs since 2010 and there’s no end in sight you know we have to make the right coaching higher it’s a must this they got to get it right they got to get the right coach in here and they can’t make any more mistakes it’s enough hold on one second Peter I’m dealing with a Taco Bell controversy I don’t think they understand the concept of you leave it with the door man but let me figure this out hello yeah the just you just leave it with the door man and I’ll be down to handle it it’s 4:35 four are you hold on one second Peter I’m GNA give the show to you you rant and let me handle this okay all right you really want another truth Woody Johnson Woody Johnson wanted Aaron Rodgers bad he over he overshot his boundaries with Joe Douglas and Salah and he decided that he was gonna go get Woody Johnson all right uh Woody Johnson decided he was gonna go get Aaron roders now you really got a dilemma on your hands because you’re not g to get anybody in here that wants to coach with Aaron roders with his attitude like you know he thinks he’s God but that beside that being the case that’s why Joe Douglas is invisible now and nobody can see him anymore because all right I’m back how how was the show Peter it’s great it’s going along great all right I want to make sure you got your time you know I was upset that my producer cut you off on the radio earlier yeah well they’re pretty quick on ESPN they don’t want you talking too much I was normally I could control the calls right but I wasn’t in the studio because they did the show from T squar how how did Peter do guys is he does he have a future in this uh show hosting Biz I was explaining to them that Woody Johnson screwed this whole thing up because he’s really the one that wanted Aaron roders the more than Joe Douglas and more than Robert Salah and and now he’s like almost turned over the whole team to Aaron Rogers yeah but you know what I I don’t have an issue with them pursuing Rogers the the the pro the problems are way bigger than just Aaron roders right like Aaron Rogers didn’t hire Robert Salah he didn’t hire Joe Douglas ultimately those guys are not the right people for this job like a Aaron today played well enough for them to win he played well enough for them to win against the bills I wasn’t expecting MVP Aaron Rogers coming off this injury at age 40 I was expecting this defense to remain Elite this kicker to not suck like if they had last year’s Greg zerline the Jets record right now would be six and two that’s the difference why is why is zerine in here he should have been out of here last week great I mean come on he he already cost us two or three games this ridiculous and like you said Joe Douglas is doing exactly what he did with Zack Wilson with no backup he didn’t get any any backup last year he did exactly the same thing enough is enough they gotta go they gotta go all of them gotta go Jake I I think they will go and the question then is gonna become okay who’s in charge now let’s say hello to JJ who’s next hey JJ what’s going on um you know it’s funny because earlier in the show somebody said that uh uh we should have listen to JJ the negative caller JJ and and Allen and your your your reply to them was that well JJ’s all over the place because he said that we’re gonna win 10 straight um so I’m gonna I’m gonna double down on that can we win nine straight now because that’s what it’s gonna take listen uh we got to do what we got to do but the the cool thing about the AFC right now is that that there’s about eight teams ahead of us for um that seventh season wild card spot out of the eight teams um the the best record is four- four everybody else is two and six two and six two and six four and three and four and four so um we’re we’re not out of it yet and and and I know you guys are like oh well JJ’s crazy how did he go from being negative to now he’s all of a sudden positive and it’s because calling into the show year after year after year you guys have drained me because you guys don’t listen and and I thought about it I was like yo what was my first couple of hot takes that turned me into a negative caller if you go back and you look I used to tell you guys yo Zack Wilson sucks and I remember there was one game I forget who we were playing but the the response was Zack Wilson doesn’t suck if Bree doesn’t get uh caught at the one yard line or if somebody else doesn’t get caught at the one yard line he would have thrown two touchdowns and and you guys made excuse after excuse after excuse for Zack Wilson and then furthermore I told you guys hey laflora is not that good offensive coordinator oh no laflor he it’s not laflor it’s not laflor I came on here I said Yo Joe Douglas is is in a good GM year after year after year you guys made excuse after excuse after excuse for Joe Douglas and the same thing with Robert Salah and now I’m gonna give you guys my next hold on I’m gonna give you the floor I I we’re having a major Taco Bell conundrum here JJ don’t get me demonetized stand by well I’m not going to curse but I’m going to give you guys my next hot take Aaron Rogers is the problem with this team right now and I know a lot of you are going to be like oh what is JJ talking about but I mean at the end of the day the only reason we kept Robert Salah as the head coach was because we believe that Aaron Rogers wanted Robert Salah and if if we got rid of Salah we would have lost Aaron Rogers okay well he ain’t playing that good anyway so maybe it would have been better if if if he wasn’t here and if it wasn’t for Aaron Rogers we would have never had gotten Nathaniel hacket I mean if you just look at the team that we put put together last year with all these uh a guys you know um Tim Bole being the backup because he knows the system and he’s worked with Aaron roggers and and Allan Lazard being on the team which this year he’s playing a lot better but last year he was horrific and and you just go down the line of just Randall Cobb being on the team this Aaron Rogers Chad how’s JJ doing how’s it going JJ how’s the show I think the show’s going pretty well I’m going on a rant right now about how Aaron Rogers has ruined this team and I know you’re going to disagree with me but if it wasn’t for Aaron Rogers we would never kept Robert salz the head coach we would have never hired Nathaniel Hackett um you look at some of the free agent signings that we’ve had that Aaron Rogers had his handprints over I know we’re talking about last year but yeah but what was the plan though is my point to you like obviously him getting hurt screwed up a lot because if he never got hurt last year we would have saw hey Sal is not the guy they would have fired him they would have tried with a new coach this year and went for it and it would but we could have we we saw that Salah wasn’t the coach last year we already knew he wasn’t the coach but it wasn’t realistic for him to be fired last year I didn’t I let me tell you something it was realistic and if you look at Houston right look at what your Houston Texans did they fired coach after coach after coach and they didn’t have they didn’t have a quarterback when uh what was the guy’s name kly what was his name yeah but I could give you some more background on that situation that that that that was a hire that was made basically because they were going to be crap they knew they were going to be crap then they flipped to lovey thinking lovey would be like the stabilizer for them they thought they were going to be better they ended up being just as bad there was like some infighting with lovey and Jack easterby they both ended up getting shown the door and then ultimately nicerio hired Theo Ryan that was a very unique situation with went so you’re trying to tell me that our situation wasn’t unique when we’ve had Joe Douglas here for going on seven years we had Robert Soler here last year it was his third year and I’m not talking about the win the wins I’m just talking about the fact that the team was not disciplined last year we were the one of the most penalized teams in the league we were always unprepared when it came to must-win games we always came out flat when it came to after the byee we always came out flat so it had I’m not specifically talking about our win record with Salah I’m talking about the the the things that were eye openening that we we we could easily Just say Hey listen he’s not a good head coach and you guys held on to him and and try to make this fan base believe that he was something that he wasn’t and same thing with Joe Douglas and and and furthermore if we look at just the yeah but I don’t know if you could justify firing Joe Douglas last year and then let or and then or firing Salah and then letting Douglas pick another coach coach at that point like I didn’t think you could do it to me it had to be both of them or not and Rogers getting hurt unfortunately provided them a mulligan and this year should have been better but you saying that it was a mistake with Aaron roggers like I think that’s kind of shortsighted like the the mistakes were made before Aaron Rogers got it is what was there if they didn’t trade for Aaron roggers Derek Carr would be here they’d be in a worst spot how would we be in the worst CL just because Derek Carr got injured in in with the Saints doesn’t necessarily mean he’ have been gotten injured with the Jets that’s it’s two different teams what you mean you’d be you’d be stuck with Derek Carr and trying to convince yourself that you have some sort of future with him when you don’t Aaron it was it was always G this two-year Silo up going for it now the whole thing blew up you can move on like the difference is if we if we if we have a Derek Carr we wouldn’t have kept Nathaniel hacket going into the season and be started we started three games not winning with car though JJ like obviously it has not workers what are you trying to say the point that I’m trying to make is at the end of the day the reason that we’re in this situation is because we held on to solo for too long we held on to hack it for too long and clearly if you look at the team the biggest problem with this team is the offense I know people are going to be mad about Greg zerline I know people are going to be mad about the defense giving up the plays but at the end of the day if you look at the offense production from the beginning of the Season till now that has been the biggest issue with this team if you don’t score more than nine points point I’m sorry if you score more than nine points against the Denver Broncos and you don’t leave it up to the kicker every single game think about this every single game that we’ve lost for the most part has ended with with Aaron Rogers having the football in his hands and he couldn’t get it done so he got he got it done today and the defense didn’t get it done I mean he got I mean what happened against Buffalo when zerine missed two kicks that night or Tyron Smith wiped away a touchdown with a brutal holding call when then Aaron Rogers comes in and he blames blames uh Mike Williams for trying to tell you Aaron Rogers has been great obviously he’s not what he once was we all could see that but he’s also clearly not 100% healthy because you were at the same game I was at where he was carving up the Patriots Off Script off schedule moving and since he took a beating against Denver and then got his body twisted up against Minnesota in the game I was at in London he hasn’t been right he’s on the injury report with three injuries right now hamstring knee ankle he has no lateral movement right now he already wasn’t as agile as he once was because he’s 40 coming off this injury we knew that but to me if you’re to get off the field and let me tell you this but who are you bringing in there’s no one better and my whole point is can I can I ask one question real quick because I know you’re gonna cut me off because I know you’re gonna hang up with me I just wanna I just want to make one point right uh the whole purpose of Aaron roggers and keeping Nathaniel hacket is that Aaron Rogers can come out there and if a if hacket calls a bad play Aaron Rogers can change it well clearly that doesn’t work because now even with Todd Downing he he sits there and he changes the plays and he makes people go go into different spots they don’t know what the heck they’re doing we have to burn timeouts this is a constant thing and every single game under Rogers he lets the play CAU get all the way down we have to call timeouts agreed it’s a problem but he wasn’t the problem today he wasn’t the problem today they should have won the game they should have won the game he want they wanted to go for two right they wanted to go for two if you want to go for two that’s fine you don’t take a delay of game penalty I agree that these things are a problem but I think if you’re ranking the issues for the Jets like if you’re blaming Aaron Rogers for some of these things like I’m sorry man like it goes beyond just him and also the whole premise of adding him was you were adding him to a defense that was top five and a special teams that was top five neither of which is anywhere true if they had last year’s Greg zerline JJ how many more wins would they have if they had last year def you guys are the same thing no I will do that I will do that because Adams if we had Devonte Adams against Denver if we had confident quarterback play that was the point how many more wins would they have that was that was everything I said I never predicted Aaron Rogers to win an MVP p i mean last I checked Aaron Rogers is is on a statistical Pace to throw over 30 touchdowns on 4,000 yards and it’s not going to matter because the rest of the team is not good enough around him anymore and he’s not able to elevate guys like he once was but that was the point and if you didn’t want Aaron roggers tell me what your plan would have been two years ago when they were pursuing other quarterbacks if you tell me Derek Carr like I respect your opinion but I don’t think the Jets would be better off right now if they went down the car path okay so here’s the thing right with the game on the line Aaron Rogers has had the football and he’s throwing interceptions and he wants to blame people for poorly thrown passes he can say all he wants about the the Mike Williams not being on the red line even if Mike Williams was on the red line look at where the ball was thrown the ball wasn’t thrown to the red l i i dude I played Dan rovski breaking down that play and he could tell you exactly what happened there that’s not use your I don’t care what Dan Orlowski says he play quarterback in the NFL I respect his opinion if you don’t care what he says great I don’t know what to tell you I’m not trying to sell you that Aaron Rogers has been unbelievable but I think when you’re ranking the issues here like what are we talking about man we’re gonna blame Rogers for today with the Buffalo game really it hasn’t worked but like I think it’s so simplistic to say oh yeah it’s a big mistake like it hasn’t worked but that’s a move that 95% of this fan base all wanted he’s been good enough to win unfortunately since he’s not great anymore he can’t overcome the stench that is New York Jets and that is the unfortunate reality John and Connecticut’s our last caller hello John Hey Jake I’ll make this quick don’t want to be be a dead horse I actually wanted to just respond to a point someone was making uh probably like an hour ago or so now I get that people are mad um and and like the um reflex is to want to blow everything up trading Garrett Wilson is just a take that would fight any Jets fan on um I find it to be just a outlandish take outlandish idea because now all of a sudden now that we’re losing like people want to throw out the idea that he’s not a number one receiver he is a number one receiver because he’s quarterback proof he showed us that and the and the back of the football card backs that up um you know like he’s played with seven different quarterbacks um and so like now my like my point is ultimately that I get that everyone’s mad there’s people that need there’s players that need to go out the door but it it’s I’ve watched too many Devin Smiths Steven Hills Jeremy curries all these Denzel Mims like this franchise was starved for a receiver for so long we finally got one this guy plays every single game I feel like Garrett is owed that owed a defense by by the fans um based on how hard he plays he’s always in the lineup like I said so I just wanted to get that take out there otherwise I was I was going you know peace out but um Garrett Wilson Legend uh trading him brain dead idea so that’s all I got yeah I I don’t think it makes any sense either right now let’s get through the year and look the one thing that uh you know doing it over if we knew how it would play out I don’t think it’s the the regret is the Rogers situation I think the regret is not changing the coach after last year I love the people saying Rogers is done stop with the excuses what excuses am I giving you I’m giving you facts I’m giving you goddamn reasons if you watched this show I have not once told you I thought Aaron Rogers was going to win the MVP this year I thought he was gonna be great I thought he was gonna be confident I thought he was not g to turn it over and manage the offense which at times he has done and the kicking has failed him the defense blew it today seriously the the the timeouts the delay games yeah that’s a problem but I’m sorry dude if you if you think that Aaron Rogers has not been an upgrade over what we have watched at the quarterback spot the last couple years you’re blind he’s also not healthy like I I think that is fair to say is contributing to him not playing well like he’s not the same guy we watched moving around playing the way he did when he got his legs back from under him against New England that night the last time they won then he took a beating against Denver and Minnesota and he hasn’t been right since and he still gave them chances to win some of these games he had 100 passer rating and 300 yards against Buffalo I love it AJ Jake’s a Rogers apologist and excuse maker or I’m giving you reasons like I don’t know what to tell you man dumb comment from 1189 could have gotten Carr at a cheaper price you could not because Rogers pay cut had his cap hits for the these two years significantly lower than Derek Carrs but please go off stupid man he’s not what he was it’s it’s obvious but it’s like come on man we’re blaming Aaron Rogers for Greg zerline missing kicks it’s stupid he’s not blameless believe me I’ve been disappoint I was so disappointed with the interception he threw last week against the Steelers but that’s an excuse for the Jets then to fold up shop the way they did they were still up 15 13 at a halftime last week that’s an excuse to allow Pittsburg to score 31 straight like every week it’s been something different it’s just it’s frustrating man now people are going to say these are reasons man once again find me the show where I was saying Rogers is going to win an MVP it was he’s at least GNA be confident he’s at least G to go out there and with this defense and special teams be able to win more than seven games well the Special Teams the kicker AKA has cost you three games in counting so far to jokey even got to cost him another one today and this defense had a chance to win and guess what they blew it sucks but that’s where we’re at I’m done two hours and 35 minutes after four hours of radio super chats here at the buzzer C says I know it’s not this simple but it feels like our kicker cost us a season it’s never one thing but that’s a huge reason why ly says Jets always make wrong moves till they get it right what confidence do you have in them making the correct decisions that now need to be made today sucked guys thanks again everyone who came the T squar social truly appreciate it reminder Yankee fans watch party for game four vanderbelt Market joined me in the ESPN New York street team if you want to watch game four all together great spot right near Grand Central so come out and hang patreon.com Jak asmin show to get bonus content and support the channel that way and before we get out of here just a big thank you to everyone still watching got over 1500 people in here if you haven’t subscribed yet please do I’ll be back with Joe bingo at 10: a.m. tomorrow story Lynn says Roger super toxic why the hell are you doing interviews with M okay I can’t I’m not doing that he’s done he’s done maae for five years his first two years he did it he was the back-to-back League MVP when you lose all these things all of a sudden become a problem but you know whatever I can’t thank you all for your support appreciate the support from the fan base as always hope everyone has a good night hope Joe Douglas is happy with what he built thank you again for your support and we’ll talk to you tomorrow go jet embarrassing this is as bad as it’s ever been for the New York Chets it will never be worse than it is right now they are about to be two and six with Aaron Rogers at quarterback and all this Talent at Devonte Adams at Assan reick and this defense which Once Upon a Time used to be good got dark walked late in this game when they needed a stop and they couldn’t get it I I mean this is fold the franchise territory for the Jets they’re terrible you know thinking is overrated
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Fans really need to stop showing up. Nothing will change until there is a change at ownership. Stop filling Woodys pockets
As a Bears fan, watching all these Jets fans meltdown videos is the only way I've been able to cope with our loss to Washington.
Trade everyone except sauce and GW get a new GM and Vrabel
I'm a big Arron Rodgers fan, however he does NOT have the where with all to change the culture on the Jet's team! He is NOT the spark the team needs! I've watched Joe Montana go to the KC Chiefs and change the culture, I watched Peyton Manning go to Denver and change the culture, I watched Tom Brady do the same in New England. The result of putting everything on Arron Rodgers was a total mis step! Just my 2cents….
The worst team in FOOTBALL as far as expectations are a concern. This is NOT A TEAM. IT'S A ROSTER. A DISGRACE AS JOE B. WOULD SAY
The reason the Jets went backwards was because Zach Wilson didn’t work out
an embarrassing jet loss soothes the sting of a yankees loss a little bit. Its great to see this 85 bears defense and Rodgers super bowl headed team getting smoked by a horrible new england team with a backup qb. Got to live it! Go J E T S.
It's going to be ugly THURSDAY NIGHT 🌙 36-14 Texans finally nail in the coffin ⚰️
FIRE SALE 🔥 AFTER THURSDAY NIGHT 🌙 FOOTBALL 😢
A winning owner would have been able to develop rookie QBs for the past 25 years.
Time to change the mantra from "Same old Jets" to "Same old Woody!"
At this point just bench Rodgers maybe Taylor can give this offense a spark .. if you say the o line sucks with Taylor at least we have someone that can run
green bay fans warned us about rodgers and all the drama he brings
RIP to all the fans who thought the Saleh firing was gonna light a fire under the team and they would go on a run.
F the jets, and I'm a true fan it pointless to watch any more games this season. it's over
Want to start winning, hire Saleh back put Ulbrinch back at DC. Play the backup QB. These moves would put U guys in the wild card.
Remember when you kept saying the Jets had all the “leverage” during the Rodgers trade negotiations 😂 remember when you guys kept saying you won the Rodgers trade 😂. Remember when you all thought the Jets were just a QB away from a Super Bowl 😭
I'm a 71 year old Jets fan. After 60÷ years of this you become numb and used to this crap. I watched Joe Willie play. How far can we fall? Only time will tell.
Get rid of this guy!
Vrabel would be great. Doubt he'll come
Does anyone care about Neal's opinion?
Enough!!
Why would anyone come here? Anyone with talent will get a job elsewhere
10 years of sucking? Way more!
Short of burning my JETS jerseys I will just hold my head down and switch to Basketball mode. Not even the F**king kicker can get it right, ITS KNICKS TIME BABY …. BRING BACK SEXY REX .. REX … REX .. I AM WITH BININGO ON THAT.
Woody is not a football talent evaluator. Big problem
49ers lose their kicker and have him replaced within one week. Why can't we replace our kicker?
There are no good – let alone great – asst coaches
Does Reddick have a no trade clause?
Engage in talk with Rex now! I know I'm wishing, but if Rex gets the job, bring in Bart Scott and make Revisv the DB coach.
Why come here?? Talented guys will get other offers
What's the lure to come here?
Competent coaching staff will greatly improve this team
Bingo
I do
The why use him?
"We have Aaron Rodgers, Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall" Rodgers sucks and Wilson and Hall are waaaaaaay overrated lol Another painful season watching these clowns. Sell the team Woody please
Who are the replacements?
Draft Quinn Ewers as the Jets should be drafting in the top 8
Stop making excuses for Rodgers!
Jake stop pretending Rodgers is the guy he isn't!
Todd Downing & Kevin Carter were part of Mike Vrabel staff. Nuff said about the Vrabel talk. It's either Ben Johnson or bust. We need an offensive coach. No more Defensive coaches as Head Coach.
Even worse, you could be a dolphins fan right now
I sure would like to have Quinnen Williams in Baltimore
Step 1: Didn't watch any of Jets/Patriots game. Step 2: See that the Jets lost. Step 3: Full disconnection from anything related to the Jets including unsubscribing from Jets-related Youtube channels. Bye!
You cant trash the Derrick Carr thing bc hes hurt. Hes been out for 3/4 weeks. He played every game last year. It was right move and our decision maker made the wrong choice in rogers over carr. Its was an awful decision.
Not even a fan but I know this is the place to visit after every Jets debacle
I NEVER EVER WHAT TO HEAR A JETS COACH SAY PLAY LIKE AT JET. EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I stopped watching them since week 3. I do like coming on here and hearing your passion about our NY Jets. The season is over, let’s just focus on the draft.