What you Must Know about Having an Open vs Square Club Face!
Do you want to have an open or square club face at address when playing a golf shot? Before you decide you must know a few simple things.
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32 Comments
You do remind me of Billy Horschel 🤓..love your simple straight forward tips
Thank you. Great advice especially when you say to not get stuck in a box. I set up with an open face and will most of the time hit a push draw that ends up in the fairway. I will usually have terrible shots (snap-hook) if I try to do a textbook setup and swing. Go figure?
thank you ! i use to have mean slice with driver irons were strait then took a lesson changed path driver strait irons hook . using strong grip could not hit the ball strait again with irons unless i used a different swing more up right . i dont want different swings for different clubs . today at the range i got tired of hitting left 30 yards and opened the club face this much at address / ! i use to not be able to hit 6 or 4 iron in the air . they were launching off the face strait high and far . holy cow . my 8 iron i would hit 125 to 130 now was over the 150 sign and high , i have been so frustrated with my game lately even though im still kind of new . i do have a strong grip and i guess im closing the face at impact because they were out of here ! cant wait to hit more .
This is priceless for me. I was at Club Champion and they recommended this very thing. I really come from the inside and hook my shots. Opening the face slightly and closing off slightly with my lead shoulder ( I mean a tiny amount ) gets me 20 more ft of apex with a lot more spin. 7 iron went from ~128 carry to 151 by opening up the face a little. Thanks!
I've always struggled with how much to open or close the club face at address.
it totally expains the outside in swing. the more the club face has to turn the more the path will go outside in . Its just physics. Thats why the open face has an inside out path because tthe face does not turn much and less force pushes the path outside.
Great insight here. How we react to minor setup changes is not discussed enough. It’s where most of the problems are.
I tend to have much cleaner clubface contact or pure the ball better with a slightly closed face. However I have better overall outcome in my shot but keeping it open. What does that say about my swing?
I’ve struggled with this for about 15 years. My brain tells me the face is square when it’s actually closed. The trick I’ve learned to do is….set up to the ball but hover the face in front of the ball, then I grip it while hovering in front of the ball, then I drop the club behind the ball….it looks and feels to me that the face is aiming at the right edge of the green or the right fairway…but the ball goes straight. If I set up behind the ball with what I think is a square face, I draw or hook it every single time.
We digging our own graves again? Lol
I have to set up with a closed face, almost 11 o'clock for a 3i, (definitely for driver) then gradually less as I go down the irons. The hardest part is knowing those degrees of difference eveytime, but also, my courses are built on a hill, so the undulations throw another spanner in the works! Then there's my constantly changing swing and rotation as I become more and more golf-fit as I progress. I've now been playing for 4 months, and it's hard! I doubt I'll ever crack my own code, because I'm constantly changing and every lie is different. I've learned to just do a slow motion, mock impact at address to see where my face is at impact. Then dial that into my shot. It works most of the time, but boy it's hard to get your balance perfect on slopping lies! Golf is hard, bloody hard! But damn is it addictive! When you get that shoot just right, and watch that ball flight, then see it land on the fairway or on the green in regulation, Ohhh, nice! I'm hooked!
I set up square but very consistently push right or slice, I've never naturally hooked a shot but slice alot. Gonna try setting up slightly closed see if it helps with my natural open face at impact
Brilliant!!
I'm not clear on how you open or close the club face. Do you take your regular grip and twist the face open at address or, do you open the club face and then take your normal grip? Same for closing the club face?
Im closing the face now and hitting consistently and going straighter.
Good stuff. Let’s not forget shaft flex. ROFL
Great info!
I tested this out today, it turns out that slightly opening the club face helps me shoot much straighter. So thanks so much for this video!
Closed has always been a personal preference for me. I hit a slight fade to a straighter ball. If I need to draw the ball I do need to open the face slightly but my body is closed to the face. I've really just play the fade all I can because the draw is 7-10 either a block or a hook.
Im an over the top guy, and what has helped me is closing my face more.
With the face closed, it forces me to close my shoulders and swing in to out to counter how closed my face is 🙂
Very well described
Matt thank you for this tip as it’s starting to make sense. I’m old, 62 and I find at the start of my round, I can turn and come inside. By the end of the round, I’m not turning as well and coming over the top. This will definitely help. Thanks.
So a little confused. I have an over the top swing. So do I set up closed or open?
you deserve 1.0 Mill subs already!!! been waiting for the day to come!
I dont get how your club face at address effects your backswing. It has nothing to do with your backswing.
I can easily address the club face 10 degrees open and swing 5 degreees out to in.
Or i can address the club face 10 degrees closed, and still swing 5 degrees in to out
This is the greatest lesson of all time. Your brain already knows and adjusts yourself.
Just got full set Cleveland Halo Launchers 5 thru gap wedge.
At range I perfectly squared club face at address toward target but 85% shots hooks and some 60 yards off target left.
Ugh!
Neutral grip & avoiding turning right shoulder left at impact, it didn’t matter, I was a hooking machine – especially with 5 & 6 (less lofted clubs).
Being FRUSTRATED after 80 balls so in desperation I tried something different. At address I closed the club 15% to 20% or aim about 20 yards left of target, then neutral grip it.
You’d think this address set up pointing more left would worsen my hook?
Couldn’t be anymore wrong. Result 85% of my shots flush, more distance and hunting the target. Best yet less thinking as the feel gives me more confidence.
But this works for me! And depends what (brand) clubs you hit. Cleveland Halo Launchers are more slice forgiving which is why I was over hooking. If you’re a slicer and over 50 I recommend Cleveland Halo Launchers which you either hook or are left of target. But once you figure out address adjustments with Cleveland Halo Launcher that best fits you the result are draws hunting the target. Can’t wait to see results in actual golf round.
this is absolutely the best lesson ever, great explanation
This would be better robot tested. For a true test the swing path has to be the same every time to get the correct results.
So quick question. I have limited mobility in my lower back which has resulted in me coming massively over the top. What seams to happen if I set up open I blade it off the toe! Any ideas? Love this video
Different distances matter regarding angle of adjustment. Might work for one club but different adjustments are needed for each club. Too complicated.
My 3rd day golfing I drove the green a 272 yard over the trees. Now I hook it every drive so I open my irons to the sky almost behind me and somehow I can hit it straight now.