Grading Every 2024 Playoff Series | Numbers on the Board
On this episode of Number On The Board, Kenny, Pierre, Mike, and Darrick grade EVERY 2024 Playoff Series. Mike asks the fellas about “The W” on “Drop The Mike” as they discuss who is the face of the women’s association. Is it a seasoned veteran like A’ja Wilson, Breanna Stewart, Sabrina Ionescu, or has Caitlin Clark already staked a claim? Plus, will Luka Doncic and the Mavericks sweep the Timberwolves to face Jayson Tatum and the Celtics in the NBA Finals?
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0:00 Introduction
6:00 Drop The Mike: Who should be the face of the WNBA?
10:20 Are we impressed by the Celtics heading back to the Finals?
21:25 Are the Mavericks just as good as the Celtics?
26:30 Have the Celtics benefited from a weak Eastern Conference?
32:15 Do people have Celtics fatigue?
50:35 Karl-Anthony Towns’ struggles and whether the Timberwolves should make adjustments
59:40 Is Luka Doncic a “scheme proof” superstar? Which other NBA players are?
1:15:40 Grading each 1st Round matchup of 2024 NBA Playoffs
1:20:20 Grading Conference Semifinals matchups
1:22:40 Grading Conference Finals matchups
1:26:45 Who are some of the biggest draft reaches?
1:29:25 Goodbye
welcome back to numbers on the board numbers on the board yes we are here to talk about the Conference Finals we are here to potentially talk about the NBA finals today we’re going to be ranking every single NBA playoff series that we’ve seen so far it’s been some good ones it been some less than good on we going to get into all of that before we get into it how we feeling today I’m feeling pretty good man it’s a nice morning beautiful Sumer now it was the weather was nice I’m I’m usually a Vibe type guy like if the weather’s gloomy I’m usually a look gloomy but if it’s nice out I’m feeling good you hit a back flip right now that’s how good it is I I ain’t never did a backflip no even if I was on a trampoline I was always not even on a trampoline I was too scared ah it’s not physical ability it’s mental the money maker do it back flip do for the team I’ve done not back who you why I’m feeling good he’s singing cuz he said the back flip so backflip popped in my mind Angel Reese on the shirt he just love free stuff huh yes he does every fit we seen him put together this free shirt super little he said I don’t care it’s free you know I’m I’m like a extra medium so large is be a little tight sometimes oh that’s a large yeah Oh I thought that was a medium aium we can’t even we can’t even tell who it is that’s how small it is on you or is it just wrinkle it’s one or the other it’s a little definitely didn’t that that thing definitely is like allergic to an iron did you just leave it in your car no I steamed it that’s your steam job well I mean it’s it’s literally crunch it’s a small shirt and I’m sitting down so if I if I sat up or if I was standing up and I pulled it down you be like oh it’s not as wrink but you’re not gonna be walking around like this all day I can be okay well that’s that’s that’s a mic thing leave a like subscribe I’m feeling great um 2:00 Eastern Time on Tuesdays we have numbers on the board linear I know this is dropping after that but I’m just letting you know for next week when we start talking about finals and all of that stuff tune in it’s the greatest show in the world if you ask me I see you with them books on yeah shout out to my guid book man I wish we’d be rapping you no actually I don’t really care if you won a playoff series or not let’s be real but you wearing books but I ain’t read one in years I tried to read a book recently actually I did I I read that that Zen book you read it all or you read I read it completely through okay and it did not improve me my swing at all no so I won’t read mine then I’m reading a book on golf with next it doesn’t sound like it would actually it’s about the mental aspect oh the mental aspect of mental aspect okay and we filmed this week maybe it will make a make me a better golfer I don’t know I don’t know yeah you got you got to allow it to process and simmer and really get in get into you visualize the shot that you want to hit yes and when you don’t Zen the out oh I’ll be visualized on a lot of shots and that should never go the way I want do you yeah oh okay well a lot of times I just feel like you be up there and again I’m no professional I’m not that good myself but I feel like I don’t know what you doing we all have the times we whiffing the ball missing but it’s like every time you go up I’m expecting two misses and then a hit even KB be like dere just keep your eye on the ball bro eye on the ball scrunch your back a little bit bend over the ball don’t stand straight up with it you know I love standing straight up all right let’s let’s dive into what we got Poss I don’t cuz my swing was bad like I had no Bend in my knees all bro you took two swings in your whole life yeah yeah yeah it’s evidently you can see that but but you know you know why I feel stupid is because we should have known Mike wasn’t golf there’s no way to cheese golf there’s no way to take an easy way out of golf you know what I mean like no real real talk like Mike loves that type of route where he can go we can go to LA Fitness and he can guard Tyler you get what I’m saying where he can get on Madden and play mut and have Calvin Johnson be a safety wait what that’s you have Calvin Johnson be a safety like I I’m doing that’s what Madden does they have William Perry a quarterback that’s that but that it ain’t that you’re doing it but that’s the type of stuff that you gravitate to so like in golf there is no there is no like Escape or easy way out you really got to get you got to grind you got to really only thing Mike grinds is 2K builds that’s the only time he put the time and effort in other than that he just come with wrinkled shirts I’ve seen you with a wrinkled shirt before I’ve seen you with more than a wrinkle shirt is my point I it’s like two episodes ago came on here with a bacon a bacon collar that shirt was from 1989 I don’t know if you I don’t know if you I don’t know if you expect it to be a turtleneck it it was a vintage shirt the wor this is like a $15 shirt with a print on him what’s the worst fit you ever seen him wear um good answer you have to think really hard I don’t have to think really hard for Mike’s wor oh go ahead when he had the red shirt the redder pants and the bright okay let’s talk about two weeks ago when you came in or or the the last one of the last episodes before we switched companies you had mismatched shoes on you walked into the podcast with mismatched shoes on it was FP flop though it don’t matter you ain’t noce somebody complimenting complimented me on those flip-flops when I walked out though that’s what you miss at I all who was that some random person in the hallway in the building I think they were making fun of you Michael they didn’t laugh at all they said nice flipflops M they laugh they laughed when they went back to the office yeah did you see that brother with the mismatched shoes on he got an excuse yeah he get Superman as always do we got drop the mic we do we do it’s also part of the reason why I wore this show oh because I just wanted to bring it out there because we support the W Round Here we always support women around here if you been able there’s nothing better than a woman you got a point right right there if you’ve been able to catch any of the games or just throw out any players that you would recommend other people that haven’t really been able to get like in tun that of the NBA w w w be the face of the NBA oh could be yeah I think that should still be AJ Wilson for the next years you’re thinking about the face I’m saying the face you said the face oh but no I’m a big fan of Natasha Cloud as well um if we being honest with you with ourselves I think um um yeah AJ Wilson is is incredible Brianna Stewart I still think is one of them ones incredible shoe um nefisa is one of my favorite players in the league from the link he talk about arque like every day arque is a Hooper Hooper Manana she’s my literal favorite player in the W right now D carington she’s one of my favorite I’ve been seeing you talk about her a lot is that place for the Mystic the sun the sun Diana terasi I would say is the first uh WNBA player of f male basketball player a woman basketball player that had me like sit down and watch when I was a kid and they was going on a crazy run at Yukon and I remember her going through the draft and she had like she was wearing like uh what the things that the girls wear on the uh legs knee pads no when like when you’re for a fancy day like stockings or Penny hoes whatever and I remember her getting out of the limousine or get into one and they were doing like the the the behind the scenes of her draft night and she was like man what’s up with this y’all had Braun and them we it this and I I just never forget I always love Diana terasi and her energy and I love the fact that she’s still in the league when the sky was playing the sun they had uh somebody and I just want to make sure the name is right but I think it was like Banna Jones she was wearing the number 42 and I swear she played just like Al Horford like she was a big man she played very fundamental she was a bigger body I was like okay wow against the Mercury said no this was when uh Sun played the sky oh um Diamond the shields is another one of them I got to watch her a little bit when she was a part of the Chicago sky but obviously she’s on Dallas now she ended up getting traded and everything um Dall uh I’m not completely sure but I’m thinking about when they went on that Championship run Vander SLO who now with the Liberty um of course Sabrina yonescu absolutely got the best kicks in basketball men’s women’s basketball don’t matter she’s got the number one kicks I agree a lot of the some of the um guys we interviewed said that they wear her shoe yeah oh yeah it’s aaring man those those are some I still don’t have a pair unfortunately but I think I’m going wait till the twos officially officially drop to just get those cuz I think I like those more than the ones I I feel you on that I think I’m I still got to try to grab me some ones because what I frowned out with Paul George shoot I remember when I was like I’ll just give me some later and they got extremely hard to get so I’m going try to go snatch me up um probably them orgon I like them orgon ones yeah they the orgon ones is nice let’s talk about the uh the Bost Celtics you ain’t got no love for the for the for the women I don’t know if he threw a single name I mean I support it but like I’m not going to sit here and act like I watch it on a regular basis that that was the whole point though is to encourage people to watch it and get a name that they can like gravitate you’re too good to watch huh no I just don’t I just be snoozing on it if you had to pick a team to root for what team would you Pi Chicago Sky okay good answer outside of the Chicago Sky uh I don’t know indana fever because of Caitlin Clark yeah not bad what team Cameron Brinks on I forgot she’s on the Sparks maybe the sparks then that’s she your favorite guard she’s not a guard oh my boy my boy ah yeah yeah me and dere went to a game last year we we actually enjoyed ourselves who who play I know it was a sky the reason I say actually is because I think the game was like just like the last one of the year or could they have gotten to the playoffs it was I don’t remember yeah it felt like people was no they were not in playoff contention last year um it was packed out it was a lot of people there though it was definitely packed out yeah so I wasn’t I wasn’t uh expecting the crowd to be as as as good and they play at the winter but it was good it was good me and Derrick was in there they gave me and Dereck some free stuff treated us like royalty I still got that shower speaker to this day I do too I do too do I use it no but it look good in my shower good in my shower the Boston souths are going to the finals yeah kind of do that but they finally did it right they finally did it again again for the second time in three years how how we feeling about is not that impressed yeah and I want him to we had this full thing again on the the ESPN show so we don’t want to dive into it again but it was surprising to me some of the stuff you were saying about the Celtics I mean it’s just it’s certain things when I’m looking at a team that convinced me and I just don’t feel like I don’t I don’t feel convinced with what they’ve done and also I feel like some of the things that they’re doing to win these games it won’t translate over I feel like the shot diet some of those shots that Tatum and brown take they’re going to be a lot tougher when you’re in the NBA finals going against a much better defensive team also feel like in a weird way it feels like that Boston Celtics team when you talking about limitting Brown and tat I feel like they’re a team you could scheme against like if you sit down and you really look at I think we saw Golden State said we had got the tip from someone else that said they decid to help late or something like that and it made them think and react and like I feel like they’re a team that you could scheme against and when you can scheme against somebody I feel like it’s it don’t convince me that is there a team in the NBA that you don’t feel like right now that you don’t feel like can be schemed against I think Dallas is a hard team to scheme against no no no it’s not that it’s it’s not the difficulty but can no yeah I think Dallas is one of them that you can’t scheme yeah because I just feel like if you’re talking about Dave we’ve seen teams trying to double carry and Luka it doesn’t work I don’t really know you try to play them oneon-one it doesn’t work I don’t really know what you could do to speed Luka up or to make him uncomfortable you don’t think that the OKC Thunder had a very good recipe to limit those guys I think that not not Luca at least LCA didn’t have an amazing series but he had even if you lose that don’t mean like your scheme didn’t have some type of effect or you didn’t have no scheme and I also think it’s kind of unfair that you’re the scheme you’re talking about with the Celtics was from two years ago yeah and you’re talking about the current Mavericks because Jason Tatum was 24 years old last time they made oh they are and this is not not only that but this is a completely different team they have drew holiday and CHR porzingis which makes you a completely different team it do talking about scheming when you look at those I also feel like the offense a little predictable like if it’s l I already know Tatum’s going to take that side step contested three from the left wing like I know that’s coming if he if he’s getting his bag on that side of the court I just feel like they they do a lot of things that I feel like when it comes to having good very very good Defenders on you is not going to work yeah even with those things though nobody has come there’s you told me yesterday there’s not a series in your mind that you ever felt they had CU I just felt like they had such top end talent in those series I don’t think that’s that’s going to be them for the remaining of the playoffs my brother I mean I think in in the finals if they if it is end up being Dallas I think Dallas Luca and Kyrie is they better I think they’re the better Duo I don’t think you wrong with that honestly in that series it’s gonna be so interesting because I think there’s no argument that LCA Don is the best player in the series but you could argue that like the Celtics have players two which is Jason Tatum You could argue they have player three which is jayen brown and then krie Irvin maybe three or four you can that’s interchangeable but after that it’s like Drew holiday Derek White a healthy Chris porzingis they might have player five through seven porz is porzingis is a question mark for me because I obviously he has to play like I know and then coming back from that injury and then just inserting yourself into the finals I just don’t know how much I really believe in that do you believe it it more than 22 minutes between Xavier Tillman and OA brassette yeah I guess but it’s going to be so I think what you’re I don’t again we we’re having a conversation but I don’t think what you’re saying is super off based but my question to the original point about it being an easy path or whatever it’s not their fault it was an easy path but like the Denver Nuggets also had a very easy path last year as well would you would you say that’s the truth they went against Minnesota without Jaden mcds and NZ Reed they went against the Suns which is their first year together when Chris uh Chris Paul get injured two games into that one they went against the Lakers there’s no caveat on the Lakers there the goddamn Lakers and then they went against another eight seed in the Miami but we still put so much respect on that final regardless of the people they win against because you still have to beat the team in front of you so I don’t want to come up here I don’t want to come up here and try to discredit what the cels have done just because their opposition has been injured because at the end of the day everybody wants a chance to go to the NBA finals some of our favorite players of all time never even got a chance to see the NBA Finals court or have a game or two or get to a game five so if you ask them would we rather take the Cakewalk walk or not be there at all they’re going to take the Cakewalk no I’m not even the Cakewalk can have them be ready for that final I just think the West teams were for me the more heavy favorite to win it all um so is this the Western Conference more so the finals team yeah this is a three- 0 Series right now yeah I I think I thought whoever was going to win this series was going to win the finals did you say that last series you said that last series between Minnesota and Denver yeah but you never thought that the Mavericks would be I I mean I thought the Mavericks would be there eventually but I mean I I don’t I didn’t really know I thought whoever would win the West Was going to win the championship no you thought it was going to be between Denver and Minnesota yes right but now Minnesota’s falling but now Minnesota is falling so I’m like okay Dallas took they spot D Dallas took they spot okay yeah I can I can see that logic I just think that because my my main thing and it’s not even a problem with anything that you saying if you don’t want to believe or accept the Celtics or you want to you know discredit them that’s that’s you I just think that the Celtics number one they can’t control anything and at the end of the day I think a lot of people in the media or just when we hear them get talked about it’s so much about what people want to see and it’s like at the end of the day the game is to win they are going to the NBA finals and they are what 12-2 at this point they’re 12- two have not lost on a ro heading to the NBA finals I just don’t know what else more you can ask for yeah you don’t respect anybody they play because this is a team that was Head and Shoulders against around the entire NBA for the entire season there wasn’t a team in entire 82 games that was even close to them so it ain’t because the you can say it’s because the East is weak but they just better than everybody at the same time because all of these Eastern Conference teams went against each other and they beat the the ma the the magic took the the cavf to seven games the Knicks and the Pacers beat beat each other up the Pacers and the I mean the Knicks and the Pacers I mean the Knicks and the 76ers beat each other up the only team that nobody can hang with is the Celtics that’s literally the only team because they’ve been better than everybody in the entire NBA even with Jason Tatum and his his shot diet even with him not him struggling and not having the games people want to see they was still taking care of business you had the game the first two games against the Pacers this series I didn’t like but guess what brown gave you 40 the the role play is it’s everything that like the Celtics need because exactly that like did Jason Tatum he could have a bad game and they could still blow it team out honestly I mean Derek white Drew holiday even Al Horford there’s some games where they don’t they really just don’t miss the reality is if the Miami he were healthy they were going to lose that series if the Cavs were healthy they were going to lose that series if the Pacers were healthy they were going to lose that series like any any any gripe with that no matter if those teams that they went against were healthy the Celtics were the better team even before the playoffs started before there was a Don V Mitchell injury before there was a Jimmy Butler injury the Celtics had minus odds to win the Eastern conf conference so I feel like regardless if everybody was healthy this was the team we were going to see so they went against the teams in front of them and like you said maybe some of the the wins haven’t been as convincing as you would want but there’re still wins like they were down by 18 in game number three the first game by itself was like that was a Pacers game right there and they just took it and game number three I think being down 18 to a Halle burtless Pacers is a look concerning they they shot 64% from three you got to come in and you got to up you can’t come on we’ve been doing this we’ve been doing this job for so damn long bro it can’t be that concerning if they came back and won it there was a moment if if you listening to the broadcast there was a moment on it where this was JJ reic Doris burking them um where JJ said there it is the Celtics put uh flipped a switch on that was when they were down by 14 points and they got three back to backto back stop stops and JJ was like now they’re going to defend and what did they do they cut that lead to four and eventually went on to win to win that game where like yeah you could say they maybe played down to their competition playing with their food but regardless we watched the last we watched the last seven minutes of that game last night against each other alcatra for the Pacers the Pacers scored Z points in four minutes was they very they struggled down a stretch of games and game number three Drew holiday Andrew nimart had been phenomenal all game long game number three Drew holiday knew that he was going right and said give me that ball like that’s what they do and Jaylen Brown made a huge play of as a guy white delivered everybody and y’all see that it was exactly one year ago he at the game winner with against the Heat that was kind of crazy that was the point that I was going to make though like the scary thing about them is in this series they flip switches that’s what like that I didn’t I never wanted them to try to be that team because that’s a dangerous game play that’s what I think they’re getting to CU but in the fact that they’re doing it is that’s scary bro they they went down to a a Tyrese halber and Les Pacers by 18 and still wiped it away and that does not matter it does not matter it only matters to you because you want to find a bone to pick because it’s not the way you want to see it but at the end of the day if a team wins a championship who gives a damn if it ain’t the way you want to see it you want to see them beat the team by 20 every night cool that’s what you want it’s not what they doing but they still winning the game and they still put themselves in a position that we all put the expectation for them to be which is in the finals one last question if they would have won this whole series by 20 plus points I honestly still don’t believe you’d be impressed I don’t either because you like S halber no I would be and it would say they ain’t ready cuz they ain’t played nobody they ran through everybody so I how they going to be prepared that’s that’s why I’ve said they’ve been in a lose lose this whole way through I would have came up here with the mentality they came out and they really they took care of business they a really play around they still took care they just swept him there I feel like they swept him but that wasn’t a convincing sweep if you watch those like convincing sweep is the craziest [ __ ] I’ve ever heard man that’s so insane can I ask you if Damen Lillard swept swept somebody and every win was by one because that’s what the Mavericks are doing they’re be they’re barely beating the T wolves but they’re still up three they’re playing against teams that are more so on their caliber but can but that’s not the Celtics fault though I’m able to look at that and gauge how good know say I’m a it’s it’s a I’m it’s easier for me to gauge how good Dallas is because they’re going against teams that’s on their caliber the Celtics are going against teams that are below their caliber and they still have these games where you’re just like also why are they in this game the Mavericks also aren’t as good as the Celtics I disagree with that I think they are as good as the they just are going against much better teams if you so why didn’t you so so why didn’t you pick the Mavericks to go this far because you didn’t believe thought I that you didn’t believe they were this good I thought showing Minnesota and yic I thought start of the playoffs even at the start of the playoffs you didn’t have the Mavericks going to the NBA finals no I didn’t right always the Celtics but I’ve seen through no I didn’t I mean yeah yeah every everyone everyone up here had the Celtics going to going to the final beginning of the year even coming into the season we all picked the Celtics go to the finals yeah then they went through the season and we still left at the end of the season like the Celtics now they are in the finals with only two losses they are the best team the only reason I picked them to be there was because Giannis was hurt and Joel and be was hurt that was the only reason I did that if those two teams were healthy and fully ready I would have picked one of those scenes to beat the Celtics that’s fair if I don’t think I think that’s the truth for you I think there’s a lot of ifs man there’s so many ifs no I’m just we speaking on the past and I’m just saying that’s that was my like predetermined picks that I thought could really challenge that those team that team I’m gonna let you have that one because you’re a Damen Lillard fan but nothing the Bucks did is better than anything the Celtics have done all year that’s literally picking them because you like them there’s nothing that they did anything this season that is better than what the Celtics did all year long even playing in the playoffs like oh man I you just we just going have to accept the fact that he just don’t like even even the Knicks I would have tried to pick them to beat them but I was just like they’re taking out the top dog like that still would have even been a stretch in a super big battle for them the reason a Pacers series was so easy for me to process and not get so worked up is because as a Nick fan I looked at the Celtics like that’s a tall ass Mountain to clim mhm I’m not even going to trick myself into being like man I can’t believe you like to the Pacers we were going to do something special no it’s the Celtics these mother got Jason Tatum jayen Brown Chris STS porzingis Drew holiday and Derek white and Off the Bench they got Al Horford and then somehow they found a way to make Sam Hower effective pyton Pritchard is playing some of the most confident basketball I’ve seen him play this team is so well put together were weren’t were they top five offense and defense for pretty much all year that’s a recipe that we’ve all lived by since covering this like you know what I mean you going to have an exceptions or anomalies here and there but they checked every box so to get to this point and just act like man I don’t know to me that’s just kind of cap that’s just falling victim of the moment of what people are saying on social media on these talking shows but and I don’t know who I’mma pick in the finals cuz I actually picked the Mavericks to beat the Timberwolves yeah so I I feel I like what the Mavericks is doing but for somebody that won rocket with the Mavericks seven days ago to get up on here and try to convince me that you just mavick out you just there’s no way to scheme against them and they just un Untouchable it’s kind of mind blowing me I think throughout the playoffs throughout the playoffs you can have varied opinions on you could switch it up and now now I’m seeing them going up three I felt how you felt with the turn Wars I was understanding because they was cooking throughout the playoffs I understood that but I’m saying six or seven days ago you a feel that way about the Mavericks I did feel like this was going to be a seven game series like I said this is going to be a do fight and it was going to go seven I wasn’t expecting Dallas to come out here and sweep well at least be on the verge of sweeping I think it’s been a do fight even though it is nobody nobody thought be a sweep um and fall we know it still might not be a sweet yeah we saw Boston last year come back from me and now 3 yeah they keep reminding us that every interview before last game and guess what the Celtics did they lost game seven so it still has not happened uh but I I don’t I think it overall it is just very good conversation because I think there are things that you said are that are legitimate like there are things about the Boston Celtics that aren’t as convincing as other teams but I think that’s why we live in this parody world we like I can say the same thing about the Dallas Mavericks though they’re up three as well there are some things that you can look at be like that don’t look great this don’t look great and even with carony towns and Anthony awards playing the worst series of their lives it’s still a three series but it’s been a one-point game a three-point game and a nine-point game so it’s all been close it’s all been relative and uh that’s why I’m excited for the NBA Finals because though the Celtics have been the favorite this whole time I’m going to pick them because I’ve picked them this entire ride even when I don’t know if y’all remember the Drew Holiday trade episode that we did we asked like who’s the team that’s gonna come out the East I said the Celtics in that moment I’m just going to stick to it but I don’t think the Celtics should be this super overwhelming favorite versus the Mavericks because the Mavericks have been that nice and Luca is the best player in the series and sometimes that’s all that really matters um but I can’t I’m not an asri guy I’m just I think that that’s just an NBA Twitter thing and Twitter’s just a in our I be jackass ESP and be like what to this NBA Finals run because we can we can do that for every single finals run let’s not act like when Braun made eight straight finals that he was going against super teams like that Eastern Conference was ass even Jordan’s runs well I’m sorry Jordan I’m sorry I don’t want to disrespect you but a few of those runs they went against teams that were objectively just a lot worse than they were but yet when you win the championship none of that [ __ ] matters nobody care nobody nobody looks at the 07 run and be like oh it was a failure of season they they beat up all all the bad teams and then they got to a really good team and they lost we don’t look at the 96 finals when this team was 73 and 10 or 72 and 10 and and went through the finals like well it was a weak Eastern Conference they saw weak finals appearance that does not matter at the end of the day the Celtics did what everybody expected them to do and that is a good thing and when June 6 come around and we see them in the finals we’ll really be able to see where they are I I I love everything you said that’s my main problem like I just feel like it’s Twitter [ __ ] that’s creeping into actual analysts talking and I just think that that’s you well one thing we can’t do with these jobs is make it expectation and then somebody hits the expectation and then try to move the goal post to me that’s just unfair that’s a lose lose the expectation was for for them to be the best team in the NBA finals and so far they’ve done that and they’ve done it convinc the Celtics if they if they lose in the in the playoffs then it’s a failure and then they make it to the finals you say what did they celebrated for they win against a bunch of injured teams you can’t have V you can’t that is insane to me you cannot do both that’s literally what they’re doing that’s insane to me that’s crazy the fact that it it was a multiple viral tweets about Tatum throwing the ball up after sweeping a team being like what is he excited about makes me feel like nobody [ __ ] likes basketball nobody that watches this Sports they’re more concerned about getting that tweet off so they can get their likes and get their little retweets so it’s Elon M’s fault for giving that blue check for some I I understand part of what what he’s saying but then some of that creeps on to like what he was just saying you’re you’re up here telling me that they didn’t do it convincingly when they swept the team they swept the team and at no point at no point in this series you felt like the Pacers were going to win this series no so they convincingly won it might have not been as much as you wanted to see personally or how much we probably thought it would have been I’m just more of a pro I’m more of a pro it to type of guy if your son if your son if your son was in the NBA and he made and he was in the finals with a 12-2 record after just sweeping his opponent in the Eastern Conference Finals and somebody was on TV saying you got to prove it as a father I would think that you would be like I don’t give a damn what that dude saying my my son and his team proving it that would be crazy I matter of fact forget son forget son I I truly believe this I believe if Damen Lillard and bucks went on this same exact run you would not be up here saying prove it that’s just what I believe you can kind of convince me if you can that I’m that I’m tripping and if you can convince me then I’ll let you have it but I believe with that smirk that you keep making no that you are in agreeance with me that if this was Damen lard than the bck I would I would definitely have some sort of hesitancy of being like I haven’t really seen them beat any of the top competition in the East you tell me that but then you but then this is how I got you there that’s what you tell me but then a few minutes ago you told me that you would have picked them to beat the Celtics without them having doing anything this season that would make you feel that that way this thing the Bucks talk about expectation and not really reaching and I know in the playoffs they didn’t have Giannis so I I can feel that but this entire season I don’t think that they’ve lived up to what we all kind of was projecting and assuming once this trade happened can you agree with that yeah they haven’t but yet you still we’re going to pick them against a team who did exceed to what we thought yep I thought I thought jannis was going to be the best player in that series that’s I thought jannis was going to come out and Damen Lillard I thought they would be a very good du on that series that will be a lot for the Celtics to try to handle so you just go off the thought it ain’t it ain’t about anything that’s analyzed or any facts or just the thinking this more so looking at what I got at face value and I’m just looking at Giannis and I think what he would do on the basketball court would just cause a lot of Havoc for what the Celtics want to do okay they don’t like when you talking about having a body for Giannis szz isn’t the answer Jason Tatum don’t want to do that on a consistent basis Al Horford definitely ain’t the answer at his age what point Al okay at his age okay at one point Al was one of them boys don’t sleep no no yeah team signed him just so he couldn’t stop their best player no more who is an answer for Giannis uh nobody really but and yet he doesn’t have 20 championships that is true and yet they didn’t have the year that they want that they thought that they were going to have and it was still to me still a solid year I I’m I’m I’m one of those people that think they had a failure of a year I thought they had a solid season that’s why that’s why I was surprised about Adrian Griffin fighing yeah no it was it was well below expectation of we thought we all thought they had a solid season but I I do agree that the expectation was not what it was and even though they didn’t meet the that’s my whole point to you they didn’t meet their expectation the Celtics met and exceeded cuz I didn’t think that they were going to be that much marginally better than the rest of the NBA and there was still a way for you to say I’m picking them so that makes me feel like if they did go on a run you wouldn’t have talked about they didn’t convince you because they didn’t need to convince you do you think part of it is fatigue and then you’re doing that smir that I’m talking about the Celtics have just been so consistently doing he over here you talking and he doing this trying to hold that smirk in they just been so consistently great throughout the time of us doing the show where they’ve been in the Conference Finals what six of the last eight year I think I don’t remember what the number was do you think you just have Celtics fatigue I don’t have Celtics fatigue I say there’s no way unless they were’re actually winning the Championships I feel like there’s no way you can kind of look at the Celtics and be like I’m just tired of them you know say think there people that honestly would say that they were tired of seeing they gotta be tired in J Jason Tatum and brown but to me I don’t it’s a different team yeah I literally don’t look at this team as any other Celtic team because to me it’s entirely different when you acquire Drew holiday and porzingis those are two like players that you just can’t go out on the market and get that makes those two players go to any team and we looking at any team different I don’t care who it is if the Bulls got those two we looking at the Bulls different if the Lakers got those two completely different now your Blazers get them we probably still looking at the Blazers a little a little blazer did have JW true that is very true but I just think you put these two players on any team and the expectation and the way you look at them completely changeed so I when people keep talking about the Celtics as if they’re the same Celtics from even a year ago or the year before when they lost to the Warriors I kind of get taken them back Chris as zingas was what a top five Center last year right I think the main thing you look at this season is that how Jason Tatum had a lot of games that they won where he did not perform well and it was a Supporting Cast that kind of kept it aoat I agree do you think those him not performing well against Dallas and do you think they still have a chance to win those games yeah I yeah I do yeah car towns and Anthony Edwards are not performing and they’re still going down to the wire Luca hit a step back game winner in a game where Anthony ever shot 28% from the field yeah and carony towns hasn’t been able to hit a shot the whole series and I believe that the that’s the that’s the parody that we’re talking about the Celtics when they run into certain things which they will it’s going to be a lot different than Minnesota because Rudy ain’t there to clog up a paint Cal Anderson ain’t there to clog up a paint they’re going to have guys at all times that you have to respect so when Jason when when you’re playing that heavy Gap defense that Dallas is going to do that I love I love don’t get me wrong yeah you’re going to have a porzingis who can shoot that shot you’re going to have Al Horford who just went seven to 12 Derek white hit a gamewinner Drew holiday hit a big three Jason Tatum the other night hit a big three Brown went off for 40 I think you can even take it a step further even after like they not even just catch and shoot all them dudes will make a play off the dribble Derek white will get to the paint and make a really good pass just finishing the bucket bucket same thing with you holiday down the line they all do it that is the advantage that the Celtics have over like the Timberwolf series versus Dallas where they they’re going to be playing four people that can legitimately create for themselves and for others where with the Minnesota temples I think one of the smartest things Jason kid is doing in this is they’re making ant have to prove that he can create for himself and others yeah they’re Pro they’re trying to make the 22y old turn into what Luca dones is and he’s not there and I don’t nobody on the ctis is the playmaker that LCA dones is but all of them you could argue are better than what Anthony outwards is at 22 years old so you can’t really just throw a couple bodies at these dudes and expect them to to to make the wrong read like Anthony ER has been when I you got to look at Rudy too cuz a lot of times they’re giving up that short pass to Rudy and saying make a Playford will Horford and christops they will make a play and I think it’s G be a great series that’s also the unfortunate kind of lose lose [ __ ] for Tatum when Tatum wasn’t having a greatest sexy games in at the start of the series everybody talked about it these last two performances to wrap the series up the 36 almost triple double last night the 26 almost triple double the reads the passes the assist the playmaking down the stretch quiet that behind the back pass the Horford in the coring was nasty just they’re just unfortunately in a lose L situation um I even think that even if they win a championship it’s going to be the same thing unfortunately which I I go back to what KB says it does seem and kind of got a feeling that people just don’t like basketball but I I won’t even go that far I think people do like basketball but I just think we in a world right now where people love to complain people love to be unhappy people love to be y’all remember when the Suns I think they just got Chris Paul remember they were super happy or whatever they was dancing after the game and people were like man I can’t wait to see these dudes lose in the finals that’s just the way every especially after they was lifting after the game oh people hated that yeah Minnesota did the Lista did that too and have it one that’s just social media for you I’m going to my first NBA finals I’m on my this is Devon Booker and the sun’s first time being good in a long time and people are like yeah they too happy for me dein Booker played for six coaches in five years and this is how he acting when he’s finally on a good team hate him yeah it’s like what it doesn’t make any sense to me what are we talking about d uh Damen Lillard he’s going to the he’s going to the bucks after being on that Portland Trailblazer team for a decade he’s running from the grind he’s running from the grind LeBron want to play with his son how dare he how dare he provide a way for his son to live out his dreams what is going on world yeah it’s it’s I wish my dad was in the NBA I wish it’s a lot of miserable stuff man and just feel like I just don’t do the Twitter stuff as much as I used to man and that’s why I hate it when they allow that [ __ ] to come on the real [ __ ] let that live on Twitter misery love company don’t bring that [ __ ] over here we having a good time this is a great job we talk about basketball it’s a lot of good basketball to celebrate anytime you have a you had a down performance from Jason Tatum the conversation don’t have to be about just say them Brown had 40 40 yeah yeah shout out to the Eastern Conference Final MVP yeah he said used to this because you don’t win nothing do y’all are y’all would y’all guess that the conversation is either more about Tatum not winning that or about Brown winning that I’ve seen so many posts that were like dancing J so like Tatum didn’t win Eastern Conference MVP like I seen so many of it and I’m just like it honestly makes you laugh how much you see it yeah um it’s not I it’s not ideal J Brown what the conversation is yeah he played phenomenal this playoff he did yeah and he did make all NBA um play with a chip on the shoulder the whole game what type of Chip if you had to get if you had to put a chip on his shoulder or based off how he played what type of Chip would it be um a hot Cheeto line why because that’s what we have one of the greatest one that’s what you had at 7:30 a.m. before first period I I was were you one of those I was not one of those were no there’s no way I I wait till what’s the worst thing that y’all ate Pop-Tarts at like no like in high school what’s the what’s the worst like consistent thing that you ate throughout the day before you went to football basketball practice my dad used to give me a $20 bill for the week yeah for my lunches and I would eat one bag of chips for lunch and that would be enough because I wanted to sit pocket the rest of the money for outside of school so I would eat a bag of hot flamins or one of those big ass cookies that they used to have yeah and then go to practice perform and practice and just eat my first meal at 5 or six o’ that’s why I ask y that like don’t get me wrong my mom used to give me money day and sometimes I get to build a chicken or a beef or something like that but I also had plenty of days where I ate the you I used to get the big cookie my freshman year but then as I got older I used to get the stack of the little ones well I would just get like a a Mountain Dew and a stack and then I would eat that and I would go to pra we would go to school for the rest of the day was which is like what 7:50 7:30 to 3: then you go to practice from 3:00 to 6:00 probably not getting home till around 6:30 so you do I just went a whole day off of Mountain Dew and cookies let me try to do that and yeah it was cool had great practices headache when I don’t eat for real I be feeling like I’m just like I’m just not myself once you started headache is real bro let me drink a m you know drinking a Mountain Dew right now would be insane I haven’t even considered drinking Mountain Dew for Real Love Me Some Mountain de for real yeah I like Mountain Dew I don’t drink it often but like I like I like I like Mountain Dew when I was a kid but as like a I don’t know you know I think it’s cuz I like those Baja Blast from like Taco Bell yeah that’s that drink it is uh the worst thing I ate before I ate a chicken teriyaki sub from Subway once before a game for a football game and I had to go to the bathroom and coach was like just hold it just wait till have stach at the wrong time I’m sure we had clovers before he went to a game hell yeah okay I was playing football though with my gut I feel like you going throw up I’m just like that’s what happened to me we had the Bas in the Plex yeah and we had like a summer league game and I was like I was doing something with my mom that whole day so I was like in a hustle bustle and I just went and got like a a pizza puff and a fry from Bas and then I went to go play and I was I was killing this game too cuz Brock had like a college visit and so I end up playing and starting in his spot and this is like it’s like my junior year so I’m trying to make an impression on on Coach Dorne or whatever and I was killing but had to take me out cuz I was throwing up I was throwing a pizza you remember last time we was hooping and I had to leave the game cuz I was throwing up and I came back all bro I don’t know what I ate but I think I was just cuz I was so out of sh no you was hung over no I think I think I was just out of shape you was hung over I’m telling you bro I forgot what we did the day before but she was hung over no matter how I haven’t been hung over in a long time yeah yeah I can’t imagine throwing up and then going back to do active stuff they didn’t put you back in the game no I did come back in the game no I said they didn’t put me back in the game yeah I’m pry I was there for that I’m pretty sure and I’m like bro that’s different bro if I threw up I am getting in my car and I am going home I mean usually you feel better after you throw up though cuz you get it out your system not good enough to hoop I’m just like done when I’ve had food poisoner that’s like that those type of throwups it’s like nah that should have had you attaching glue to your bed for two days for sure for sure attaching glue to that to the toilet absolutely but and you it’s like seeing a zone defense you don’t know what to do it’s coming top and bottom man man bro that’s the wor that’s number four ain’t it huh that’s a number four the number four man that’s a number five coming out like liquid yeah the worst water just spashing like damn PE stay washing your hands huh L do you know that’s not water hit that sh crazy anytime that happened all I think about was like damn 6 hours ago I felt good I feel that way every time I’m sick Bro when I when I had Co I was in the in my base well no Co was different Co I hate saying this because it sounds so wrong Co was a bad time it was a tough time a lot of people lost their lives a lot of people got sick and had some very traumatic experiences but outside of that when I look back on it it was also a time where like think about it we was waking up doing our show in the comfort of our home and then getting on the game and playing 20 hours and nobody better than I yeah your girlfriend couldn’t say anything like what why we ain’t going out I was hoing on the zoom I just had boxes on can’t even tell it is it’s a weird it’s a weird part to like think about retrospectively because of that reason why like so many people lost their lives and their livelihood restaurants closed so on and so forth but also like it was like one of the weirdest times for our job because that was a time when we were able to propel ourselves higher than some of like the competition yeah um and part of that was cuz like people stopped working which is understandable and no matter what we ain’t had no basketball for 6 months and we still did our show two times a week and found stuff to talk about really pumped out basketball content with no content and I think that if it wasn’t for that time frame of us feeling more comfortable with just talking about random stuff and hoops and stuff that we wouldn’t be where we are right now so it is a weird part to like kind of think about and talk about because while for a lot of people it was the worst three two and a half years ever for us it was just kind of the opposite of that cuz we were able to like hone in on our crafts and because it was nothing else for me to do the amount of content that I put together during the pandemic made me feel more comfortable with the grind of being a YouTuber and stuff so I think a lot of people feel like that honestly I mean again I be seeing posts whatever people talking about like how Co was a time where they could stand out they didn’t have nothing to do like you couldn’t go outside it wasn’t many distractions so you had that time to focus a lot and that’s where you seen a lot of Tik Tok people blow up too cuz they just in the house doing streamers stuff like that remember they had the uh remember they did the video they were playing swag era you remember when they was playing horse inside the house it’s like Chris Paul I want to say and somebody else and this is like this is like Co yeah it’s a weird time it’s an emotional time because of so much of the negative impact that it had on a lot of people but Co was such like an amazing time for me because like just in retrospect with hindsight it’s never I’m such a family Orient into person and I was still living with my mom at the time and and being around my IM intermediate family like on an everyday basis and we just had nothing but time and then it’s like when the world finally opened back up I moved out got my own spot everybody back in school going back out to work but it’s just like that you never that’s not that’s a lost time where like regular life gets so caught up where you you don’t have those opportunities even us we was literally on the game with each other for 15 hours just chilling it was the weirdest scene too when like a family member got Co my dad who man during Co he didn’t really go anywhere yeah but he was the one that got Co and I remember like he didn’t even really know for a couple days nobody else got it like unaware what was going on at all my dad had to be admitted like he that’s how bad he had it it almost took him out um which is just a SC it’s a scary thing I remember the uh it was super funny too cuz i d Mill is talking about like the first time he got Co he’s like man I couldn’t move like I couldn’t even get to my phone to text y’all or whatever and he was like my phone was right here was that or was that the shot no that was Co and then I remember like I was laughing cuz the first time I got Co it just felt like a regular cold the second time I got it I felt exactly what he was talking about like you don’t even want to move yeah like I was Lally laying in bed and like randomly my body just like went like weak as [ __ ] say that because what did you did you not come you couldn’t do the Pod or you didn’t get on the game it was something we was like what happened where you was at I never knew I had it I had to take a test in order to go do do y’all remember they did the um the NBA draft of all the legends ad yeah all of those great people there I was supposed to get on the flight the next day to do that shoot with Turner they needed a negative like a real not like a take-home test but a real negative test came back positive bro I was asymptomatic but with Co and I was so very pissed CU I wanted to meet Ernie johnon and I still haven’t been able to do that and they ended up having like Snoop Dog was there it’s like I would have been in the same room with all these Legends and instead I had to sit in the basement and I get my wife or girlfriend at the time pregnant when I had got it I wasn’t as sematic but I didn’t know I had it but I found out I had it because starting my day going around give me some cereal eating my cereal like hold up this [ __ ] kind of plain I’m like okay maybe I’m bugging maybe I’m tweaking cuz my dose are satell like this a little bit so I’m like maybe it’s cuz I can’t breathe out of my nose I ain’t so I had ordered some um Noodles and Company say something real quick eating the macaroni I’m like this [ __ ] plain this Bland ass macaroni then I’m like nah I got that [ __ ] man I got that [ __ ] and I remember telling my mom like Ma I might have it man I might have it that’s where we get that famous that famous uh clip where deil’s coughed and everybody looked at him like he just oh yeah he committed murder that was when Co was just starting we had no idea what was going to happen no me and my girl our our like dates at that time we used to drive yeah yeah just go on drive just like [ __ ] like that it’s just some [ __ ] that you just and we still do but it was it was just different to have the streets kind of clear yeah they were literally yeah I remember we were I was going to the studio and I was like on the highway or whatever and nobody was there and it was like 10:00 a.m. like The Walking Dead bro yeah for real remember when everybody was like hoarding the bro I remember it took me never made she was insane bro we live eventually get some toilet paper for like my my girlfriend’s mom cuz she was like Costco shoing so she had a bunch but she’s part of par people have hand sanitized for $20 on offer up bro that was crazy he got it from pits pits walked up and dropped off gave me a bottle hand sanitizer yeah come outside I got this pack for you all right oh man okay San we need to uh we need to get into our break let’s hear a word from our sponsor but after that we’ll talk about the Minnesota timbl being up three and then rank every single down oh I’m sorry being down three um and then we’ll rank every single series that we’ve seen so far why should you bet with Caesar Sportsbook two words Caesar’s rewards every bet brings you closer to the type of benefits only Caesars can offer hotel stays VIP experiences Sports and concert tickets and more it’s not just an app it’s an Empire final scoring game number three ended up being 116 to 107 LC ahead 3355 and seven Carri over hit 3343 and one um or a from three talk about it how y’all feel about that as a big fell yourself who got a nice sweet outside real soft touch I love your jumper we do our pick and roll they be so threatened by you diving that when you pop I can give you that pocket pass in so I know it be butter I know it be butter until the last few times we remember we hoop like and he was like over 15 I was waiting for him to go into like yeah you like I wanted him to say something so I could bring up that so you are cat really so I shouldn’t ask you because remember he was like is there a point where you going to go to the pen he’s like I’m just keep shooting yeah you Garfield you fat I just for me personally I didn’t I didn’t I know I got thear but uh cat I mean for him to be such a great shooter for his size he’s not just a shooter and I think that’s what’s unfortunate that you’re seeing him do like he’s so talented that he could just do so much on a basketball court and when he keeps just dinking up the bricks it’s just a it’s it’s pretty much a turnover they the Dallas Mavericks would pretty much just love that if you if you ain’t got it going you ain’t punishing us inside you ain’t getting to the mid-range he he could just do so much on that basketball court offensively that for him to just keep settling like that it’s kind of disappointing yeah I agree I think it was also no coincidence to me that um and I said this on a linear show and um um my YouTube but his best quarter was the third quarter and I and ironically he didn’t take a single three in that quarter he went three or four with nine points got three free throw attempts at the free throw line made all three of them and then to see him just going to the fourth quarter um I think he went 0 five and took four another four threes and was scoreless in that fourth quarter was again disappointing you also had Rudy who played two minutes in the fourth quarter um are there any adjustments if y’all was behind the scene that y’all would do was starting all of a sudden is is there there was a tweet that I saw let me let me double check so I can give credit to who it was from it was from Joe vay where he showed of the Minnesota timos doing five different coverages on Luka donic drop coverage up to the level of the screen switching heading and recovering and blitzing I saw this tweet too and every single one of them Luca Don just capitalized and either scored himself or got somebody else open so if he is going at five different looks and being successful I don’t know if there is a thing that you can really do if you’re Chris finching him other than hoping that Anthony Edwards and carony towns get there because I I am a firm believer that the defense is not the main problem I do do believe is the fact that the top two dudes are not looking like the all NBA players that we know they can be I think that’s the main thing the defense is not good either but like if you’re telling me that we were in a one-point game when our best two guys were ass and three-point game it’s not the defense it’s really the offense did the temples I remember that team tried something and I wasn’t really expecting did were they did they go zone or was that that they go Zone wi Zone and I for a whole bunch of excellent like on Ball defens and everything like that it made sense and another I know another talking point in the game was the fouls MH bro I mean Minnesota they’re trying to like bother Luca and Luca and kyne they just can’t like they’re picking up small little fouls that affect them when they actually do commit a foul that’s like worth worth committing I don’t Zone against Luca and krie just doesn’t even sound effective well I think they were just trying to again change it up just change it up and see if something works cuz honestly whatever they do now they’re finding ways and I I think you just got to give credit to Luca and Kyrie because they just take what the game gives them and they’re just capitalizing in every way possible is is would would be would y’all feel comfortable committing to one thing and doing that mm no like I would I would Blitz it I I would Gafford get 30 go ahead get 30 Gafford so in the regular season Luca dones was the most blitzed player in basketball by a yde margin and I remember listening to like episode two of mind the game um with with JJ and all of them um and Bri was asked like why is Luca the guy getting Blitz and if you look on the opposite side of the spectrum nobody blitzes LeBron James yeah that’s what he said um and what LeBron said was the reason he doesn’t get Blitz is because they know he’ll make the right decision and so I think it’s interesting that Luca is the most blitzed guy because he’s going to make the right he’s also going to make the right decision is that just them being late to the party in that interview said that eventually teams are going to stop yeah yeah but I I agree what you’re saying though P if we if we’re blitzing and that means that again no Lively um Maxi kba’s back shout out to Maxi kba if that means that uh gaffer gets the ball on the short roll again you live with that if that means that Derek Jones Jr and PJ Washington take 23s each at this point in time get the ball out of Lucas’s hands just might be the only thing you can do still it’s kri on car’s going to end up with that ball attack and a close out I feel like you can still guard re off ball and Blitz at the same time like that person that’s guarding him can’t tag the roller at all but again if it’s Daniel gaffer you feel okay with that if you if you’re starting to blitz so very early like if you can get them to start their offense early which I think that’s one of the reasons why Jaden MCD is picking Luka up for a court it’s not because he’s trying to force a turnover but he wants them to start to get into their stuff 35 feet away and if they get into their stuff 35 feet away and that means that Daniel Gafford is getting the ball base or or free throw line extended that’s perfect for you if you’re a defensive team because we saw him travel we see him make the wrong read um and with no Lively you know you feel good about it being gaffer and not anybody else speaking of lively real quick I I know he went down or whatever they were showing um they had a up bro he was talking a lot like as a defensive anchor he was all over the place and like man for a rookie to be doing that that was like something you got to like love and don’t get me don’t get me wrong I’m not I’m not suggesting anything to quote unquote stop yeah Luca or the Mavericks in general you just talking about switching it up or or staying with something instead of switching it up if you did five different uh coverages and he beat all five we should just let’s just stick to one that is going to take the ball out of his hands cuz my biggest thing with Lucas obviously his playmaking is one of a kind but in that in that game the last one specifically he hit the most timely shots like Superstars should when they when the Minnesota timber Wes is getting it going here go a three here go another mid-range shot and once that start to get going and then Kyrie is going now it’s night night I want to talk about that mid-range shot Gord and them can’t really they’re not going to hit timely shot that dunk is gonna be tough to give up don’t get me wrong them twos going to add up for sure but I mean I rather I’m going to feel a lot more comfortable not having him control the game with the BK on his hands I want to talk about Lucas’s mid-range jump shot because I it still amazes me cuz I’ve seen it so many times but he Jaden medo’s gota be like 69 six he’s like super long he doesn’t even have to speed up his jump shot like it’s so like it’s so Luca Pace it’s like man he’s literally unfazed by it and I I feel like that’s just added we’ve seen players like that like you can’t you can’t mess with KD contest cuz or you can’t contest KD jumper because it’s just like it’s Kevin Durant I feel it’s like Dam near the same way with Luca like he has some of the top Defenders on him that’s why I even think about it this assuming the Dallas obviously goes to the finals but like I feel like he’s just got size advantage over Drew holiday and Derek white so I want to see how that’s interesed to play I think the the easiest thing about that or not the easiest thing but the most exciting thing is that they have so many different options that you could just try or like the Minnesota Timol it’s either jayen McDaniel or it’s Cal Anderson yeah and I honestly do believe that Jaylen Brown or Jason Tatum is going to have to take that match bigger bodies 100% because I do believe even though Drew is a great defender he might just be too small but they’re they’re going to have a seven game series to try to figure out what works the best um I’m just I don’t know I I don’t know how the Celtics again defend him mostly because we’re seeing like Andrew NIMH hard dominate Al Horford on the switch so you don’t imagine what Luke and Kyrie could potentially do to him uh but porz is in space and I mean they got Rudy go just in hell every time he pulls out to the five to the to the three-point line that’s why I picked them I knew they those dudes going to be credit to Rudy phenomenal defensive year them dudes too much man I I I didn’t see a world where they was gonna be phased by that [ __ ] to be honest with you um and all of that Anthony Edwards I got Kyrie that [ __ ] ain’t really do nothing for me it sound good it’s CUA Rudy actually I guess the songs so good defensively when you talking about him he would defending space with KD D book and I don’t think he’s necessarily going bad here he’s just do bother these dudes yeah I was going to say that’s the crazy thing is that like KD and we seen the bo like bother K uh KD and D book but Kyrie and Luka they just been different monsters this playoffs they also got more reliable help kicking out to drick Jones Jr him being able to knock the shots down he did in the last game and same thing with PJ Washington um and they got Derek Lively got Jaden Hardy joining the party and not uh your boy nerkish yeah I mean back to cat I mean I I don’t me he said yeah forget this praise and M let me go back to talk TR to Caron town he’s 7 feet 250 PJ Washington is currently listed at 6 I guess 68 67 230 230 I was going to say 230 if if I’m PJ Washington I’m happy with every jump shot you take for real keep cheting them please put P jail hey you know what we got to do now every time we go hoop we got to tell D Mills you 63 damn near 300 and we got we got advice okay yeah he not get paid a Max contract though something like that though okay he get paid he getting paid a snack contract uh n Duncan had this tweet um there was like the main topic of my my episode that I did but I want to hear if y’all agree with this um the last five games for Luca I ain’t gonna read the stat lines but just dominance that man has been insane the way he’s pretty much countered everything Minnesota has tried to do scheme wise has been a joy to watch he is a scheme proof Superstar do y’all agree with that that and if you do who else is considered scheme proof I mean I think I kind of hinted at that earlier today when I had said that they’re hard they’re going to be a very hard team to scheme against Kuka um so I would say so yeah I think so because I think you there’s nothing you could really take away from him because he can just do so much if you try to Bliss me I’m gonna make the right pass if you play if you drop play Drop I can hit the I could hit the jumpers I don’t really know what you could do to Luca to really negate him especially because he has the ball in his hands I I would agree too I think players that fit that category probably joic Braun just a lot of the like now bra or I think still Braun at this point yeah cuz most of it I think is obviously goes into like your IQ and like how you could process a game and everything like that because you see a lot of times where even where he’s posting up and you see Health coming from uh from a spot he might not hit the guy that’s coming to help he might hit the guy that’s trying to like rotate over and I think a lot of that times it’s like you’re processing everything so fast that you’re like ahead of the defense let me let me take a step back and I want to give it make it a little bit more structured I will give you a player and you tell me if they’re skeme proof joic we already talked about scheme proof yeah I mean other than what one game in the last series where like where they made him take 10 threes he was pretty much his Dom I was more so just fatigue maybe um Giannis jannis the Yannis wall he talked about it when I when I G he not scheme proof yeah this the Giannis wall every team does it Shay gilis Alexander uh no I don’t think he’s not scheme proof I I said in mind that it’s too early to tell I would say in that series versus the Dallas Mavericks in that individual series he was the best player in that Series yeah way too early it’s way too early I also don’t think he has the playmaking levels to be scheme proof I think you I think you got to kind of separate what their team is kind of doing because some of those dudes like they’re passing the ball they just not hitting the shot or make like they’re not doing what they need to do to kind of like oh yeah Shay’s got that where you can’t play like part of that is the team too you have to look at what about Joel and be he’s SCH I think he’s close to it yeah I think he’s I think he’s evolved as a playmaker and defensively it’s nothing you but honestly you can also talk about like the how you could probably Tire him out you know we’re gonna make him work till the fourth we’re going to make him work in that fourth quarter he should be burnt out enough that it’s like he’s not GNA be as effective as he was the first you know first half it’s an excellent point about Mike that’s I didn’t think about wearing him out beat him up excellent point by Mike but he’s still closer to un I think so when he’s going it’s literally nothing you can do yeah kawh Leonard I haven’t really seen a scheme slow down Kawai offensively so it’s actually I would even say that I think Kawai just honestly just makes shots over like the craziest defense is like there’s nothing you can do you know what I’m saying it’s not like I seen Kawai get trapped and he’s just making every right play I mean I think that is the scheme against Ka get the ball out of his hands and make him make a play is kawh or schem proof I have really yeah I mean when I think of Kawai I always think of like playoff R like he’s a significant playoff Riser and like I’ve never seen a defense slow him down well when they lost 3-1 in a bubble what was he doing missing nothing right he couldn’t have been doing anything they lost to their nuggets right yeah yeah they oh yeah that was when Jeremy Graham was locking his ass up in those last three games damn cuz we I my main thing is to get up here and not call everybody scheme Pro no nobody be no but I was thinking of I’m just thinking about his game and how he plays he’s so robotic that like it’s so weird he may be scheme proof so in game five he had uh remember they were up 3-1 in this one yeah game five he had 36 they lost by six game six they lost by 13 he had 18 on 13 one he had 25 on 44% shooting and then in game seven he ended up having six of 22 14 total points in this game Jeremy R was doing a very good job on him so yeah maybe he’s not I don’t remember the bubble like the significant I remember the significant moments Anthony Davis game winner and so don V Mitchell and Jamal Murray both averaging 50 or whatever but like the individual stuff like that I couldn’t tell you I kind of forgot that Jeremy Grant was on the team at that time is Donan M scheme proof I I’m G keep going down the line I’m G keep going down the line um my initial response say probably no this cuz he’s smaller but I think he’s getting way better than he was like especially playmaking the ball remember early Utah days like now he he’s got the game manager in him so I think that does alleviate some of those problems Tatum scheme proof no no Steph Curry see Steph Curry is so great off the ball and with the ball so that’s why I think he may be scheme proof just because if he’s running constantly off the ball guys aren’t going to really keep up with him but he’s also very one of the best ball handlers we’ve ever seen as well so like when you add all that together he’s also a great finishing at The Rim he has now evolved a great mid-range game as well and the three ball we don’t even have to talk on that is the best ever so offensively he’s not scheme proof I mean unless you want to do similar to what Mike said about Joelle this also I’m just like nitpicking I would say I’ve seen him kind of struggle with like size on him at moment that was a question I was going to ask y’all is somebody like kaai is somebody struggling is that scheme proof or did somebody scheme to stop they all bad game it’s a very thin line you can miss Steph Curry can have a game we miss seven open three pointers and like do you take credit for that defensively or it was just a bad shooting night for yeah is it the scheme or is it the player just having a bad night that’s what I was trying to say with like the Kawai thing like that was that sound like one one bad game it just so happened to be the closed out game but the rest of the series it sound like he was cooking yeah so Kevin Durant scheme proof yes there’s no way to scheme the way to scheme is to pray and hope that he plays for uh the Suns team that he just played on and then that that that Nets team they had Bru Brown who else is out it was him druming Bruce Brown and Joe Harris you just got to hope that you can uh Gap up you got to show them three but even then is not enough because he’s seven seven feet with a yeah I don’t think it’s no answer for Kevin Durant he’s about as willing pass the score he is he will pass that ball my my counter point to that is and and maybe this is unfair to Kevin is the one year that they got swept by the Boston Celtics no he was his worst playoff might have been yes they that was also the series I’m talking about when he had time on a court where he was out there with drum but yeah that was also all Kevin Durant right there and they literally sent two bodies at him because so they start line up the entire series was Kyrie Seth Curry Bruce brown KD and then Drummond I remember Grant Williams had a lot of time where he was on Kevin Durant yeah they just they just beat him up the entire series and in this one his counter stats were 26 six and six so it’s not like he was averaging zero but he also shot 38% from the field 33% from three oh 38% from the Fielding but I go back and watch how they was guarding him they it was there’s no respect for Bru BR there’s no respect for drumming so it’s like we’re going to double team and throw as many bodies as we can at Kevin Durant because Drummond’s GNA beat us sure go ahead Bruce brown with those floaters in the short game and beat us he a couple more names and this is all active for y’all in the comment section so let us know Anthony Davis he scheme proof no I wouldn’t say so I wouldn’t say so okay also I feel like teams I when you play the Lakers I still feel like teams try to scheme around Braun more so than Andy Davis yeah I mean it’s a hard conversation to have off the top of your mind right you try to think about okay have we seen Series where teams have been able to not get rid of him but like neutralize him yeah to really think about it’s just make him shoot or like give him that conf like yeah had a thinkon Davis schemes against himself when he wants to settle and shoot jump shot fromo so I’m going quickly go through some others and y’all just say yes no and if it’s a yes then we can chat through it Deon Booker no I think he’s in that same round but like Donovan Mitchell yeah LeBron James I think we mentioned his name earlier no scheme proof yeah scheme proof yeah Jaylen Brunson no he’s not scheme proof yeah the paac is just with that weak defense just but again missing a couple starters always easier to guard but they they threw bodies at him and put sides on him and full cor pressed him you know what I mean so the last couple names is Anthony Edwards I think we’re see seeing right now he’s not SK proof um Jimmy Butler I think we can agreed that he’s not scheme proof even though he’s a been a playoff you remember he had 54 or six in that game versus the Bucks last year yeah that was that yeah that was last year you talking [ __ ] to Holiday I just don’t I like I had to go back and like 50 54 56 points he averaged like 38 points that series yes he did cuz after that game he ended up having a 40 point game so it’s like that is insane um and the last couple names on his list is wanyama this too early too early great he’s a rookie he has seen the playoffs that’s what schemes happen be physical Tyrese hurn I think we can say no to that and then Donovan Mitchell yeah he talked about him a little bit he’s close to it okay well close as you can be for that’s that’s a really hard category to fit into I got yes it’s early but I got one Paulo B Caro it’s uh I’ve only seen him in one playoff series and he was still very good in that series I’m letting that boy shoot but no he’s getting to the rim though like he’s one of those players same thing with like Anthony Davis letting him shoot they Cavs though he was making them shots man he was making them shot need more need more evidence Pao who’s the most schem proof player of all time Michael Jordan LeBron LeBron LeBron Jordan the dude who nobody stop and when it mattered yeah never seen him be stopped okay outside of the top two greatest of all time like who who else when I asked that question I didn’t think about Jordan yeah yeah uh that’s a very good question most oh hell yeah what are he doing he had all three foul trouble he might be number one the scheme being foul him all right I gu I mean sure but that he was missing him hacker Shack was a real thing do you think they ever ever but they were get they were able to my point is they were able to be stopped he was we’ve we’ve seen him be stopped we’ve never seen Jordan on that stage be even close to stopped and he was shooting jumpers mid-ranges I see what you saying my my Counterpoint to the hacker Shack thing being the the thing that’s not something you do for eight 48 minutes so he’s still giving you his 30 and I don’t remember again off top of my head head how many individual playoff games or series they lost because Shaq couldn’t make a free throw oh yeah for sure for sure but I mean having it be with Greg papovich fouls you two seconds into a game be in the scheme it’s funny or te like teams legitimately had four centers on their roster so they could just throw fouls at Shaq what was the worst scheme of all time immediate thing single coverage for Shaquille I always bring Ricky they said no step back three for you J he guarding from behind Byron Russell Michael Jordan that was crazy they really behind I’m s to at Jord game winner shot on the line he’s not pushing off I’m just s to BR J Ron Harper step up James Harden had people guarding with their hands behind let’s not say let’s not say people they they asses did it but still that’s an NBA game that’s a crazy screenshot to see a guy defended without hands remember Lonzo was doing that for a long time yeah I remember that yeah Lonzo was is different cuz cuz he had the foot speed to to hold his hands to a side no way you going to call a foul there’s no way I’m letting y’all call a foul that num got him looking decent I see the video if I can see Lonzo Cru on that floor one more time to get defend I’m start I’m about to start a new Bulls rebuild and I’m trying to figure out what I want to do because I know I got healthy coming here’s what you do you trade vich away to the Grizzlies they don’t want them KB this is your Series right people watch my series cuz it’s real realistic as much as it can be cuz if that was the case I’m trading Zack LaVine for Austin Reeves right then yeah I’m going trade what you trading vich for [ __ ] just to get him off team get off theam so hey Z Williams Luke cornette or Luke Canard come on to the Chicago I am thinking in considering with that 11th pick between Jared McCain okay and khil wear more KH we the J McCain mostly because we have IOD dumo and Kobe white yeah I like Alo I’m not sure I’m not sure what what’s the future for those guys going to be but yeah I like J McCain though um okay now it’s time to get to ranking or grading every single series we’ve seen so far okay in the off season we gonna come up here we gonna have a Michael Jordan podcast by the way because I don’t like some of the tones and some of the things that y’all are up here saying when I tell you that Michael Jordan is the most uh scheme proof player ever I don’t want no no no talk back I thought I say I thought we said some disrespectful you did oh maybe a Shaq no it’s Michael Jordan when I say Michael Jordan is the greatest player to ever play this game I don’t want you to say oh one of them no he is the he SLE right now Shaq would be the greatest if he cared about basketball he is the shq Shaq didn’t even care about hoop and and still with the top 10 of all time who said that about him huh what somebody said that about Shaq like actually said that about him oh I was just meing oh I mean that is a real thing though that’s how him and Kobe used to get into I think that’s why him and Shannon are into it ah yes it is yes it is I was meing but I mean it’s some truth related in every every no Shaq Shaq put a paragraph under Shannon Sharp’s picture the other day yeah I’m not for that smoke he made a diss track about made a full Dis Track yeah I love I love I love Shaq that’s a he brought me on the stage you ain’t got to worry about no diss tracks we got that cover don’t we Mike if anybody ever want to go there we got that cover Shaq had a song recently maybe last year I want to say recently where his verse on it was so damn cold the one was zero right I don’t know who else was on was with him ridning in that big ass truck it was like at night time yeah that I remember I never seen the video I just heard I think I told y’all too he was on Meek Miller album what new one the new Meek Alum it was 6K copies it was on Meek Miller and Rick Ross I think it’s Damon uh Shaq on there I’m G to look at it real quick he is crazy he is very crazy now we run into me I’m only saying there if we run to me hey if we run to me get Summer League don’t cop no Poli love so six I mean Meek ain’t dropped since 2018 brother I’m looking for it it’s a it’s a collab album him and Rick ra oh you know who who produced the song on this album who kid wonder who this um let’s see fabulous is on here the dream is on here Jeremiah is on here French monana the last song is called Shaq and Kobe remakes featuring Shaquille O’Neal and Dam and Dame yeah um oh Shaq and Dame on that Shaq and Dame he oh okay but listen to Day At Last go get my cous a couple pennies by listening to his song that he produced please um saw him the other day shout out to CZ uh are we starting off let’s start off Western Conference 18 matchup 40 sweep for the for the Thunder we going F tier through S tier when we ranking these things where’s this I forgot about this Series F or forgot about it yeah f could we for forgot about it uh like what what is the moment about this game baby in the a for forgot about the first game was like the most exciting one yeah and then after that it just went down here the game winner remember I remember he got the n one CJ okay was that I don’t remember if that was a game winner or not no I think that t that that put them up three but remember when Larry nans missed the dunk the ball out of bounds l n has some very questionable decisions in that game but he also has some very big moments in that game we need some answers you doing questionable [ __ ] that’s is for forgot about it all right let’s go one eight match up Boston Celtics winning 4-1 to the Miami Heat because this one got me riled up when Tyler hero had his greatest game ever just for it to fall flat that’s why I was going to put it right above so like a d tier I was going to give D cuz Tyler hero did have that one game that was exciting I was thinking the D tier as well we’ll do D tier then we got a 27 matchup Denver 41 over the LA Lakers what type of series was this this is a c this is aers Tred to make it oh I was thinking a tier we got two game winners we did get two game winners see I was going to say this I was going to say this this was Cinema like this was a very Cinema likee series it was one it was full one but like we got two game winners that came down the wi this Cinema yeah it was I’ve never heard you talk like that before Martin scors I’m expanding my vocabulary Richie over here Cinema’s like a sixlet word expanded my vocabulary I was taking a TI really I know again the series didn’t go long but two gamewinners including a walk-off game winner for the series um we also saw Michael Porter Jr turn into Larry Bird for like three game stretch which was pretty cool he ain’t got to remind me about all that I was going to B+ okay well there no it’s b or a yeah yeah I it was a good series it was a good series it was definitely close you know for it to be 41 so we a you going that’s back to back years you saying it was close I mean the point differential for the series was close we got close enough Nicks winning 42 to the um to the 76ers this this is this is like this this has so many moments this is like this might be the best series is the one tier this is the one I’m mad we a get seven of them yeah yeah I know you are a hater I saw the te me in the video you hate on the Knicks oh my God a full 18 minute video like and I watched it too and he and he would always tell me know I ain’t no [ __ ] I like the this R forix I would put this one honestly s tier they got a 50o game a 40 multiple 40s Jaylen Bron like four by himself teres Maxi saw a game that was over turned into Tracy McGrady and won that game and um emb’s 50 it it goes on and on that’s an S tier Series game winner oh yeah yeah oh man it was so much so much so much good stuff in this game then we got Minnesota sweeping the Suns 40 a tier I think it’s more so just for like Minnesota came out and sent the statement and then Min Phoenix was like the favorite to win this series I could get us a b because I see what Dereck said yeah I I’m I’m going to see just cuz I feel like it was I don’t it just it became a little bit underwhelming eventually we got the Pacers beating the Bucks four to two I got mixed feelings this is like a peak in val type Series where some ofs I’m up some of that’s kind of why I’m leaning toward C tier yeah I could do c it was cool yeah it’s not like they beat the healthy if they would beat the healthy bucks oh this would be S tier Chris Middleton say we to see some Chris Middleton buckets that was definitely the the one where he sent it to OT was crazy I was thinking like low B tier but I I can settle for C tier I’m going go C+ okay next one we have is the Clipper oh I’m sorry the Mavericks beating the Clippers 4 to two um it’s like a c tier like a boring it was really boring because I think our expectation was like another Philly we got to see James Harden had one of them games yeah he had one didn’t really do for me yeah he got him a game but that first game was like damn the Maverick just lost they lost I seen somebody tweet about like James Harden was going Toe to Toe with Luka and Kyrie but Anthony Edwards and like Anthony and K ca he got them that one game at least um okay second round we got the Mavericks upsetting the Thunder maybe it wasn’t upset maybe it wasn’t four to two uh I’m going go be dear I thought it was a pretty impressive series though I’m going with dere I’m going to go B I thought what they did with j and kind of neutralizing him was very impressive M we had a couple cool Luca games we had the PJ wat the foul in the corner oh PJ wat has so many games he had so many games in the series yeah so B tier yeah be uh the Celtics beat and the Cavaliers 4-1 D they like yeah it’s not a bunch of moments in this one no that you really remember other than seeing the notification for dominance for the Cavs or for the Celtics for dominance I’m cool with that then we got the two3 match up the Tims winning the S versus the Nuggets this this is a really good series this is a very good series they went seven really yeah I mean Minnesota Denver won two games and then came back lost three straight and then they won two more I think where my really came from is like none of them games was close until game seven but I still think all those things were still like very impressive for Minnesota to go in their first two games still those two and Denver with altitude then’s a great home team then you steal those but then you go back and you fold and you let the best player in the world come out and steal those two games from you that’s deflating and then you lost that other one in Denver too and then boom you bounce back and now you win your two games and now you but it’s just those games that what was it three game stretch it was like just blowout after blowout but then also Minnesota had that big 18-point comeback game seven completely saves a lot of it for now so I think this is like a eight tier series I’m not against said I guess I guess you can’t quite put it s year cuz yeah it was a lot of blowouts for both sides um last second round match up seven game series Pacers beating the Knicks this this was a good series too the knck the Knicks are just yeah the Knicks are just full of good series The Nim hard shot was no don’t try to show us love now no I’m just playing it’s going to be the opposite video now right being the biggest Nicks fan in the world for 18 minutes that Nar shot was crazy man think it could have been s tier but no OG yeah I’m yeah I’m okay with B tier for this one yeah B tier Works got a gamewinner it was a lot of injuries in this Josh hard ended up getting hurt too yeah got some blowouts in it but o overall a relatively close series No Mitch Robinson so lastly we got the Celtics sweeping the Pacers honestly I’ll go for bad I’ll go to bad for this series because I thought all these games was Co it was we good gam we got 18 point comeback I’m thinking B I was thinking I thought it was a good series it was just a sweep yeah yeah it was it was a good one I would say we got to see Nim hard turn into Jaylen Brunson from two years ago Nar was cooking their ass all game bro like and lastly I know it ain’t over just yet the Mavs being up three to the Wolves it’s been a really good series so far a game winner it’s a yeah yeah and all of them being close gamewinner big big uh leads being thrown left and right y’all value sweeps being an a tier I mean I think it’s not a sweep yet but like KB said it’s not over but like I just think about like yeah I think about the quality of the games like these games have been close every time down come down to the Lakers were in the very same position where they were down three 0 won a game so they wasn’t swep it was a legitimate sweepy so maybe tonight is that too we don’t know sweep yeah um but either way yeah I mean when you have a point margin of what 11 points to three games I think that’s like it’s been cool we get to see Luca dones dominate C Irving looks great um Mojo offensively has been great yeah cuz that was one of to WIP my boy out yeah they said they was lcas was turning him into a spot up shooter that yeah somebody said they were the 11th rank duo in basketball who no I ain’t putting no names out there who a put no names out there stand on it who said it you said it Kenny be oh you did I thought you were talking about Mike no yall remember the episode where we were talking about remember episod I don’t remember where we put any um in my defense we were talking about that season alone and it was 41 games in them playing together and they were they were 500 that’s what you get for trying to overthink no that was that was the consensus go watch the episode we made it very clear that we were just talking about this season that’s how we had Jared Allen and goddamn Donovan MIT number three yeah okay so yeah uh but it is funny CU like that’s been not say Massachusetts no being taken out by the thing that you need to live is crazy that happens a lot with me yourbody just rejected water no I just be choking on it it’s going going down the wrong pipe yeah just get oh yeah cover your mouth and get it out we’ll be making you ch ch on I don’t know I think I just be drinking it too fast I don’t know I’ve never taken you as a guy that would struggle with swallowing water yeah water it’s only water specifically everything else he’s just fir with he wanted everybody to let that be known it don’t matter the substance other than water um no problem got it um y’all crazy bro we we this don’t happen if you don’t say what you said you have a hard time swallowing pop no milk no they say you can swallow some peanut butter if you felt like it big beef juices oh hell no never caus them no problem other than arteries uh anything else about Hoops worth talking about um other than bronnie J I’m sorry no more bronnie talking I don’t even know what I thought about what you say he got in just saw you saw the notification like I did he rejected workouts he got invited for 10 workouts and said no I’m only doing Lakers in the Suns so I guess them and I was trying to reason with it like maybe because the Suns like they need role players or whatever so maybe he could fit there I don’t know I don’t know what’s going on with this situation I just don’t know how guy that’s projected to be 54th can say no to workouts other than him being LeBron son yeah really which nothing but the best we’ll see we’ll see I guess they were thinking about taking him at 22 and I I went through I saw an article recently that was like the biggest the biggest draft reaches of all time Don maker was projected to go 44th and he went like ninth no Tom Maker went in a team oh 11th 11th he went 11th but to go from 44 to 11th is crazy it’s because they wanted another Giannis project and how far was the cam Johnson pick uh it wasn’t on the list it it wasn’t that far of a reach I think he was projected to go in the 20s he just went in the teens he wi 11 like yeah right yeah close to the team so I feel with you man biggest draft reaches man and I wonder I’m going to look it up again and see if I can find while you doing that I be looking at after I did that star drill and I don’t know if you could relate to I be looking at that movement shooting in the NBA so much differently movement shooting is hard yeah like especially just I be thinking about like man trying to lock up one of the better players on other team then you got to run all the way down and hit a shot and those NBA courts are huge so they said Russell Westbrook at the time was a reach not a huge reach it wasn’t like he was projected to go 40th but they didn’t see him being a top five pick obviously that worked out cam Johnson again is on here um in 2004 Boston was trash for taking Al Horford at 15 and Tony Allen at 25 both considered big reaches at the time and both had long NBA careers don’t remember that um Paul George was considered a huge reach when they took him at 10 despite everybody loving him um his low level of competition out of college really had the question University yeah as Stewart was that a re that was in our our Act of time I don’t even remember chuma oi wasn’t he like one of the only players that get an extension from chumo Kiki was a AC out of Auburn chumo Kiki ain’t been back bro isn’t that crazy he ain’t been back um do we unplugged what you mean back in the rotation oh like like they found what they like but he’s just sitting around now we kind of had our unplug with the co talk oh I guess that’s true yeah to be honest guess that’s true um other than that I mean what y’all wearing what we wearing what y’all me and KB was talk my shoes and stuff earlier I’m sorry I know this one more time for the for the audio listeners uh wish you got on footworking videos no I don’t you got them bopping videos I ain’t got them I ain’t got them you got them yeah I got the uh the belly roll videos oh okay what an insane thing to post in your Instagram story yeah let’s wrap up this show hey we appreciate y’all watching or listening to this episode of numbers on the board be sure to leave a like subscribe tell a friend to subscribe because we are on our road to a mli a Milly a Milly um we love y’all and we’ll see y’all on Saturday peace
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Mike was indeed not lying about wearing boxers on zoom during the show
We are not impressed by the Celtics. Say it louder dmills!
You can easily argue that Jrue & Pingus are better, but acting like Smart & Rob Williams weren't a big part (or even existed) when comparing the 22 and 24 Boston teams feels very disingenuous from Pierre
Spent way too much time on all that Boston shit fr. First time I had to skip anything.
bucks were injured next
Dmills is right the Celtics haven’t really beaten anybody to convince u they the team to beat u can say that’s twitter talk but that’s reality
Short ahh show today what the hell
Dmills looked damn dumb during this Celtics convo :/
The mavs are as good as the celts stand 10 toes down brother I appreciate you
We all picked the celts coming out the east YES BOI CAUSE THE EAST IS WEAK ASF YOU PUT ANY OF THEM TEAMS IN THE WEST YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE 5-10 games off their record cause ya pussy
Yooooo DMills you big time now, can we get you to think a little bit before you start spewing shit that I would see idiots on twitter say? You sounded like a straight casual for the first 20 minutes of the pod
kenny act like he never wrong sometimes
Convince me you have your own opinion 😈😈
NUMBERS ON THE BOOOOARD. IM ON A ROAD TRIPPPP
"I just be choking on it" -DMills AYOOOOOOOO DMILLS
Kinda feel dmills on the Celtics argument. Imo the West final 4 OKC min den or dal would all give the Celtics at least a 6 to 7 game series. The West in general has better stronger teams. I think that's what he's trying to say
Pierre such a Jordan dickrider man it’s over the top and annoying at this point. You can respect Jordan’s greatness without having to worship him like a god where no one can say anything that goes against him 😂
I understand liking Luka and Kyrie more than Tatum and Brown, but to say the Celtics offense is easier to scheme against (hasn’t been done yet) with their record and offensive ratings is kinda crazy. Eastern conference is weak but if the Celtics were in the West they’d still probably have the best record in the NBA
Everything is “NBA Twitter is stupid and we shouldn’t care about what they say” but then yall use it in every argument 😂😂 thinking a team isn’t as good as their record is nothing new we’ve seen dozens of these kinds of teams (Hawks first come to mind). There’s nun wrong with thinking that, stop crying about the internet whenever someone disagrees with you.
So if milly is right and the Celtics lose to the mavs y’all gon give him an apology and admit u were wrong? Ima guess no lmao
Love how P is getting at Mills for saying he would pick the Bucks but he always is super biased and meat riding the Knicks
Kevin Durant is scheme proof in 2024 and Giannis isnt lol okay
Dmills preaching
I think we handing out too many "Scheme Proofs". There aren't that many guys that are just perfect players all around. KD and Embiid are not scheme proof I'm sorry. If Embiid was scheme proof he would have made it past the second round at least once by now
they skipped magic vs cavs lol
Saying Jordan was unstoppable when the Jordon rules was real and worked is wild p. And the ecf don’t count now?
The talk about why the Celtics quality of wins doesn’t matter and how the Mavs weren’t ever picked as finals, or even series favorites is pretty dumb. You shouldn’t judge the Celtics on the quality of the opponents, but that was the EXACT reason no one saw the Mavs moving pasts round 1, 2 at the most. Everyone said the Mavs defense was fake and that the Mavs were fake because of strength of schedule down the stretch. Using no one picking, or trusting in the Mavs as a reason why Boston is a better team is also a really stupid argument in that context. Boston should be the favorites for a lot of reasons, but let’s not try to duck out of standards that you set for one of these teams previously. That’s even assuming the Mavs close the wolves out, too.
1:24:53 thank me later 😂😂
D mills really talking about Boston like that. My man Boston is the hardest team in the league to scheme for whereas Dallas is the easiest
I never saw the day where I would agree with a Lakers fan but it honestly seems like laker fans understand what Boston is going through. They beat everyone in front of them and are in the finals yet everyone has an excuse to discredit them. Just like the Lakers in the bubble. Thank you laker fans for pushing aside the long-standing beef to be real about basketball instead of talking about narratives.
celtics get talked about like they've won 4 titles with this squad already damn
Damn they went full toxic positivity on the Celtics run besides DMills who was speaking facts. Sure Boston got those wins in the end but trust me the performances they put up against a bum injured Indiana team wouldn’t even be competitive against Dallas.