Leafs Think It’s A Damn Fight w/ Sean McDonough

The Leafs could really use their second leading scorer if they don’t want to regress to first round clowns. Sean McDonough joins the pod to share incredible stories of calling the biggest games in sports history and how he learned from the Doc. The playoffs are in full swing. Some series look like sweeps. Some series look drunk. Find out who is in big trouble.

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(0:00) – Intro
(3:27) – Two Series Start Tonight
(16:04) – All The Big Cats Eating
(19:39) – Big Willy Hurt
(27:20) – Matt Rempe you SOB
(29:30) – Jets/Avs Holy Shit
(32:09) – Hot Ice: Comfortable wins?
(38:08) – Sean McDonough
(1:31:17) – Mailbag Qs
(1:40:20) – Saucy Predictions

this episode of the empty Nets podcast is brought to you by laat blue light it is the freshest Canadian pser in the game and you want to know why because it’s brewed with Canadian kindness in every sip I’m telling you guys when you were watching the game when you hanging with your buddies the weather’s getting nice again always a sign to playoff hockey laat blue light is your go-to drink for all those activities Dan and I got him on Deck we’re watching these games every night and there’s a stackle of bat blue next to both of us make sure you’re doing the same thing check it out as soon as you [Music] can the ice is ready East Coast Edition we are here in Boston shout out to the big KN night media gang for hosting us in their unbelievable Studio as always and we are back with another and maybe technically cuz we did conference predictions first playoff episode of the 2024 Stanley Cup playoffs holy CP I’m fired up and you know Dan every time isn’t it sick that every time we come here it’s cool like literally every time we come to these goddamn sons of [ __ ] just keep stepping up their game every second we got the voice of God with producer it’s like it’s like going to Tony Stark’s basement you know he like pepper comes down there and Tony it’s new Iron Man movie every time we come out there’s a new Iron Man movie T walks out he touches a button a suit gets a suit on he’s editing he’s editing in real time on a digital NCH you like it yeah they’re rocking nanot we got nanot in and it’s absolutely incredible it’s a beautiful day out in Boston by the way oh it’s gorgeous um so thrilled to be here we got bees we got playoff hockey this might be my favorite East coast/ Boston weather as stupid as that sounds I just think we all love summer it’s beautiful gets a little humid here yeah right now we got a crisp walking around 62 is degrees I got a crew neck on I feel perfect I’m not sweating I’m not freezing it’s beautiful out blue skies unbelievable how did and not to well I guess maybe I just should toot my own horn here cuz I forget to do this how Flawless for the weather you just described is this warro jacket oh my god dude everything I was trying to pick out my Warroad outfit today and I got you know I got the hoodies I got the joggers I got everything this jacket which is a snap button by the way did you hear that let me do that do it again do it one more time let me do that again dude one more time I love that snap button perfectly light perfect weather perfect jacket it’s fantastic unbelievable I took the red eye I posted on the IG I’m sure you saw it I had my whole War Road fit in the airport wonderful she’s from Minnesota yep probably 60-year-old woman I got a are you a pro athlete comment from her did you lie did you lie to her face it it caught me off guard so bad because it was when we landed in Boston and I was like yeah and I laughed I was like what made you say that and she was like well you got you know you got the athletic fit on I just thought and I was like she thought you were suting up tonight she thought you were third de pairing tonight I got the call up going to going to get tossed out there kill a few penties playing with peak tonight listen we are pumped to be here going to be in the garden tonight for game two but we’ve got so much to talk about so we’ve got to jump into this episode and we’re going to start as always with no Bucky warm-up but no Bucky warm-up is now going to be the five favorite stories going on in the NHL right now in these playoffs our top five to break down how we’re feeling start start me off CP number five the last two Series start tonight this episode’s coming out Tuesday we’re here Monday the last two Series start tonight so obviously we did it’s Oilers Kings it’s Vegas Dallas we did our Western Conference preview if you haven’t watched the Western Conference preview pause your Spotify pause your YouTube pause your Apple podcast right now go listen to the Western Conference preview hurry before the game start come back and finish this episode okay so since we did our breakdown I don’t want to dive into it that hard but what I did want to do do Dan is just go through each of the four teams and give someone give people a player to keep your eye on from each of the four teams yeah I like it okay so Oilers Kings let’s start um let’s start with Oilers you want me to go first or you want to go first you can go first Oilers I’m going zackman okay there’s literally no reason to think that his season won’t continue he’s still certainly playing on Conor mcdavid’s wing and dude look at this cool stat I dug up for you all right uh last two seasons his playoffs in Edmonton and I’m gonna go the two seasons before that in Toronto two seasons before three seasons before that even seven games one point five games three points seven games one point those were his three seasons in Toronto uh last three on the playoffs Edmonton Dan 16 games 16 points 12 games 11 points been a point per game guy in the playoffs the last two years even though in the last two regular seasons with the Oilers 36 and 76 39 and 79 so you know like he was already stepping it up in the playoffs for sure proven so for him to have the season he had this year if he delivers again in the playoffs and I I about the Oilers depth with r& not having the year he had he had last season but if he continues to fire the way he has in the playoffs that’s a huge factor for them I love it I love that one uh I’m going to go this is not going to be surprising we all know I’m a defensive guy my kneejerk that I wanted to say because I wanted to go a little off base here was Darnell nurse okay because that’s the type of guy to me that if he can dig deep and reach back to the Darnell nurse that got him the contract he’s currently playing on that’s a huge difference maker but I’m not going to go darn okay I love it I love it I am going to go with my boy who I’ve been stroking off Gluck gluing the last couple of weeks Evan Bard yep unbelievable Year backto back unbelievable years that said buard big Point guy Point per game this season just about I think I think so I think he hit it 82 I think it was 82 on the dot yeah look that up for me while I’m saying this sure Evan Bard in 28 games in his playoff career seven goals 19 assists you love to see that so that’s 26 points in 28 games for a defenseman this is my whole point about Evan bashard but here is the thing what do you think I’m going to bring up right now plus minus plus minus daddy Evan bushard for this Edmonton Oilers team 82 82 and 81 there you go Evan bushard for this Oilers team he is their top defenseman he is pumping in points top five in the NHL defenseman this year in points seven goals 19 assists for 26 that’s quick math 26 points in 28 games in his playoff career he’s a minus8 can’t happen can’t happen can’t happen so keep eyes on Evan Bard I want to see yes I want to see him getting out his point production like he always does I want to see if he can lock down and improve that plus minus cuz that to me and that’s not just on buard but when you’re logging the minutes he’s logging when you’re that number one guy you’re going to be on PP he’s going to do some PK time 5v5 is where I’m focused most you can’t get scored on that’s what I want to see from this Oilers team that’s what I want to see from bushard in general I absolutely love it you got a Kings guardy do you want me to go Kings first you can go I might take your guy you sure yeah I’m that’s okay with me I had wrote down a couple but that’s okay with me but I’m going QB I’ll tell you why Dan um last season but honor his nickname dude Cube we going Cube we can call him QB as long as we then specify AKA Cube AKA a cube uh last season was his first real taste of playoff action uh six games one goal three assists Four Points Das five not bad at all honestly this year Dan was his breakout year 55 points 20 goals we’ve been singing his prais Praises all season they need him to produce I don’t know where he’s going to be in the lineup yet but wherever it is we got to have it from him so I am my eyes are locked on Cube for this entire this entire first round I like it I like it a lot what’s up boy let’s go okay my pick looking at last series last year against the Oilers again who led the way juice eight points six games right behind him copi seven points six games love to see that a lot of the guys really did step up and played really really well I love the cube pick for me I want more from Al yeah and I don’t know where he’s going to play either honestly he finished the season great what I really love about this Kings team and we don’t need to yeah no they in the preview it’s in the preview I really love how balanced their big boys are they are all in that 70 point range fiala last se la uh last season in the playoffs only played three games one goal he was battling to get back remember battling to get back one goal five assists six points that’s good it’s fantastic I want fiala I want more of that f is always a little bit more on the assist side I want more of that balance though like I want I want him through seven games when they defeat the Oilers in seven I want four and five from him you know I want to see that balance I want to see him pumping in goals I want to see him getting a lot of those assists setting up plays with that great vision that he has I think a healthy Kevin fiala with this team with the way that they’re kind of starting to ReDiscover that December yeah rip that they were on I want to see that fiala right out the gate in these playoffs I want two points from fiala in game one I love that because a healthy fiala all playoffs last year they might have got by the Oilers absolutely let’s go to Vegas Dallas Vegas you want me to go first no okay go I’m gonna go first obvious one maybe I’m gonna start with Dallas Robo okay I want so Robo had a less explosive year than he did last season in my opinion a more balanced year okay snapping it around a little bit not necessarily worried about all the goals a a quietly sick Year too by the not to his standard but you know what I mean I feel like everyone thinks Robo did [ __ ] this year and I’m like he had [ __ ] 80 points yeah like it’s absurd I I really like the idea dude Robo is so [ __ ] good yeah and this is something I don’t think I really acknowledged until this season which is one of the great things about this job one of the things I love about this job so much and I love about the fans so much I am so used to watching every game and every team people get honest in the comments sometimes in the DMS being like you never talk about this team you never talk about that team and to an extent they’re right with certain teams like Habs fans a couple times this year like dude you never talk about the Habs and I’m like you know what that’s fair you’re also in like last place so there’s not much and that’s not a chirp I’m saying it’s hard when you’re talking about you know the big stories in the league it’s hard to talk about some of the last place teams because it’s like well you’re not what do you want me to say Dallas is always on the tip of our tongue because I think we both really rate Dallas you’re a huge otter guy I’m a huge Miro guy we also love Joey Tip Drill I feel like we talk about them a lot and I didn’t acknowledge the fact that the league doesn’t talk about them they’re not highlighted that much they’re not they’re in a huge American city but maybe not one of the biggest hockey cities so their fans feel like we’re this amazing team we don’t get the shine maybe that we deserve and that isn’t is true and it points towards what I’m saying in that Robo is so [ __ ] good and you know he’s an All-Star and in last season and I I don’t think people really focus on him on a League wide standpoint so this is me saying that kid is insane he’s a huge body people don’t really realize that so end of rant Robo I I got eyes on Robo in I think maybe he had a more focused more balanced leveled season so that playoffs he can go cuz I remember him being kind of quiet at least the beginning of playoffs last year so looking to avoid that he was very quiet last playoffs very quiet we were all over him and we I was like dude get on the [ __ ] score she finally popped in a goal I want him early out the gate and I want him dominant I I I could see Robo stepping up and going David Cree playoff mode here like I am the guy and I want to see it I got otter think you knew I was going there but here’s why statistically this was the worst season of his career statistically I know he had some great games but just look at the numbers playoffs last year for Otter Dan 19 games right 306 goals against 895 save percentage Yeah bad playoff not great Bob playoffs the year before seven games against the flames 1 181 goals against 954 save percentage nuclear who won that series [ __ ] Oppenheimer dude who won that series uh the Stars won the cup right no I think they won the cup they didn’t which otter are you getting cuz that’s what he’s capable of he almost stole that series I want it to you know so that’s what I mean though Dan and this is a [ __ ] blood bath you got Vegas my eyes are squarely on my boy it’s my favorite goalie in the league tied with San and I hope they both hey nice safe they both I hope they both absolutely tear it up yeah Vegas who you got Aiden Hill I’m going I’m going on the other side what’s interesting is I think there’s questions of who’s even starting for this team you know the absolutely a situation where Logan Thompson could get the net but I just think after what Aiden Hill did for you last playoffs you’ve got this young guy who who just went lights out you have to start him he’s coming off an injury Vegas is healthy again Mark Stone’s back hurdle’s in the lineup you’ve got some these new additions I I think it’s I’m not worried about anyone on Vegas there Ike IES is going to get his cookies Mark stone is going to go old man Stone on everybody marshy is going to just pump in goals I’m not worried about any of those guys I’m not worried about hannahan having a good playoff he’s gon to it’s all Hill for me okay if Hill is healthy I don’t even need him to be lights out but if Hill is healthy and if he’s playing competent goal tending for this team every everyone who’s going Vegas is overrated dude like everyone’s so worried about Big B oh ltir veg there’s a b been a bunch of people recently who’ve been like they’re not that [ __ ] good if Hill just even 90% of Hill last year how are you not terrified how are you not terrified uh mine’s a two for one Stoner and petrangelo full contact participants at practice on Saturday get [ __ ] everybody they’re both playing but get absolutely I’m excited to see though cuz it’s playoff hockey and you’re playing in my opinion one of the top two teams in the league and so is there rust are you ready to go you know so I’m watching those guys tight and what’s so interesting is this this seems like it’s so old hat for them I I think they’re going to I mean Stoner is probably going to come out and just like have have a two-point night and we’re going be like incredible yeah um okay Sean just texted he said he’s 10 out uh nine out now I think we can do one more yeah hell yeah we can okay ready yeah number four news story this week all the big cats were eating for the pant in game one dude Sam Reiner picks up right where he left off bang goal carder haggy bang goal Matthew kachuck bang goal 3-2 win and but I should say Tampa got Hegel and stammer too so it was kind of everybody’s fire in there but how often do we talk about Dan guys vanish in the playoffs you got to get the monkey off your back right away how [ __ ] fired up were you if you’re a Panthers fan where you’re like Bob played insane and our three best player score and talk about I mean what a series yeah I mean hope I I think we’re going to see fireworks tonight in Dallas Vegas but God damn the Battle of Florida is just so good and and I said in our Eastern Conference preview I think or I thought Tampa would beat any team that they drew except Florida and that game one just felt like such a microcosm of that point it was like look how close it was two- one game really right cuz kachuck empty Netter and then stammer well I shouldn’t rule out St Sam was a power play goal maybe they had him pulled I can’t remember but but you know what I mean like 2-1 till till late late late and it just played tight both goalies played great I mean like that’s like your you know if you’re a Florida fan it’s it’s interesting to say if you’re a Tampa fan you lost but I think you feel good about that game you’re on the said that dude he was like their home crowd and I I think too what I thought was interesting was Cooper said too they weren’t ready to play at the begin well you know I it’s such a ridiculous comment they were ready to play but Florida took it for the first 12 minutes then it felt like Tampa settled in and Matthew could chuck at a quote that was like in the middle there we were getting pounded and we all of a sudden Bob was our bailing us out for a full stretch of that middle um only 19 shots for Tampa in the whole game and you’d like more than that but but to your point it was like both goalies faced an absolute Barrage at stretches and stood the test and and as you said to open this conversation you’re chilling Tampa’s job was to take one here I would say and and actually by the way Tampa was such a significantly not significantly but they were a much better home team this year than they were on the road so even if they dump to I don’t think that locker room is that worried they’re like let’s just go home and win game you know what I mean so yeah like they aren’t stressing at all right now toally yeah I I I I love that for them and what a is there a more Pro vet team to have that attitude and and really believe it you know they’re like you just said they’re on the road you lose game one no big [ __ ] deal dude you played fantastic you held them to two you know mhm a real hey they all count but you held them to two goals then an empty Netter I think you feel fantastic about the performance obviously you love seeing Hegel and stammer get the goals if you’re Florida you feel just as good if not a little bit better because exactly what you said all the big dogs eating Bob’s playing great you looked like you controlled the ice against an insanely good team held your own for the most part on special teams I just this is that Florida team that we’ve all been worried about to so to see them you know that was a that was a one uh game one punch by Tampa like that that was a great performance by vassie and then just like a hard nose game and you wore it on the chin and won got to feel fantastic I also loved how it was I’m going to forget the exact scores now but we brought up in the Eastern preview Florida tagged them like 92 at some point in in midwinter but then most recently Tampa beat them pretty good I forget what it was but I think it was like 74 something like that and to see I’m I’m glad like let’s say this go s there’s a version where it’s like and we kind of saw this in the playoffs last year it’s like 72 One Way 61 the other way just blowout blowout blowout you’re still trading wins but it’s just blowouts yeah I’m so much more into the [ __ ] 32 blood bath seven games in a row and I was pumped to see these two teams which I we both said is such a Savage first round matchup come out and play such a tight one right away cuz it really sets the table for what I think is going to be exactly that script the rest of this series I’d be very surprised if one of these teams takes a a beat down in one of these happen obviously but I’d be very I’d be shocked as well okay number three our third big story of the week slick Willie is questionable if not doubtful for game two here in Boston for those people at he didn’t play game one he played 82 games ladies and gentlemen boys and girls 40 tucks 58 assists or yeah 40 tucks 8 98 Point Season everything for all the people dming us I we don’t I don’t know yeah and that’s a true like we’re not hearing anything everyone in our circle is very confused as to everybody’s saying this he woke up with didn’t even happen in game 82 and that can be [ __ ] obviously we could find out after berson last year comes to mind but they’re saying nothing happened he woke up with something feeling very stiff I don’t know what that something is I don’t know how stiff I wake up with something feeling stiff but I think we’re probably talking different issues here you know if you you get my meaning he mine’s not an issue pal yeah M I hope it happens really insignificant but it’s not an issue yeah exactly so he’s hurt he did not play game one he skated this morning it’s Monday afternoon we’re recording he skated this morning at Warrior alone on a fresh sheet people were there and the reports were he looked very labored his he was practicing one-timers he was shots were missing the net he’s hunched over between drills maybe he skates tonight maybe he guts it out I don’t know but it is a major issue yeah um Matthews Marner tow drags zero points in game one and I’m not saying if ne le been there it’s it’s a Difference Maker but he’s a Difference Maker you know course you need him in the building um let me hit you with this Dan and I know most people know this but this just blew my mind yeah the Maple Leafs have lost eight straight regular and postseason games to the Bruins including five this season and they have lost six consecutive playoff series to Boston including four since 2013 gone eight consecutive playoff games scoring two goals or less it’s not good um listen I I really love Willie so much I think he’s just such a fun person such a fun player so you hate to see someone injured at any point we don’t know anything you said it this feels incredibly similar to Patrice berson last year it’s one of the situations where I don’t know if he got injured in game 82 I don’t know what happened but it what just awful timing for one of your star players 40 goals I think 90 points 98 dude that’s what I was saying before just missed it yeah like it’s just it’s so so crazy that you could have the season that you do you’re you’re buzzing all all season long you play 82 games and then this happens nothing would make me happier as a fan than the Bruins to beat the Leafs obviously yeah to beat them in [ __ ] five like I said but I you don’t you don’t even want to do it this way and I’m sure there are super Die Hard Bruins fans that are like you’re an idiot I hope they all break their leg and we win but I’m just like I don’t know man I it’s it’s it bums me up for Willie I guess I’m just like man I would like him to be participating I was about to disagree with you but I I now agree with that it’s I’m bummed for Willie I I don’t people get injured all the time and and that’s not to to downplay anyone’s injury but I I wouldn’t if I were a member of this Bruins team as a Bruins fan I wouldn’t sit here and go oh it feels less because we beat them without Willie I feel bad because of Willie you don’t want to miss you don’t want to log the slog that is that 82 Game season and then finally get to playoffs the ultimate goal and then not be able to play or even if he does get on the ice not be able to play at 100% that [ __ ] sucks um the the Leafs can’t afford this for so many reasons obviously you’re losing a 98. 40 goal guy from your lineup that’s a [ __ ] devastating blow the bigger one n not bigger the equally large one for me is the emotional blow you as a team as a franchise as a fan base you can’t have anything else on top of this series your second leading score in such a whatever we find out it’s either bad luck game 82 or and they’ve said it’s not off ice or it’s like playing sewer ball and you’re like [ __ ] me dude you know you just can’t I agree it is a it is a mental psyche you have your first round demons you have your Boston breu demon and now this just a blow like this ised to it honestly watching them come out I thought Boston raged them in game one I I it it was just you get goals from Boston in places that you didn’t expect I want to ask you about that interesting goal scores very interesting and if you’re if you’re the Bruins that is the best case scenario in the world and it it has to feel amazing and Toronto just looked deflated all game and and I wouldn’t blame them if part of them was being going into that game being like Jesus Christ Willie is out like every we’re back in Boston we haven’t beat them all year eight straight losses like you just said to them going from last year to this year and now Willie’s out I wouldn’t blame them for just being deflated in that game so I’m incredibly curious to see how they play tonight because either that was a okay that was a devastating blow we didn’t expect Will’s out tonight I’m not I mean we’ll know by the time you guys hear this but if Will’s out tonight they’ll know and if they come out unfaced buzzing get a win tonight or have a close game then I’m like game on you know we’re okay but if Boston handles them again tonight and you know this isn’t one of those like oh what what a daring call Dan if Boston goes up 2 in the series they’re going to sweep I’m really mean if they go up 20 and it feels like another [ __ ] kicking I don’t know I don’t see Tron low dude uh yeah you said it man 35 stops from my favorite goalie in the league tied with otter well Swan um but he played fantastic um he played Fant he played that was that sick thought exct and remember in his interview when he was like it’s just stop the puck like that’s you see that clip with Matthews when he’s like eight miles out of the net he don’t care dude there’s no technique other than stop the puck sway is a sick person and in the best way and he was so dialed that game this is what Montgomery said in terms of who’s playing tonight cuz we don’t know still it’s it’s 3:00 yeah it’s 300 p.m. on game day and we still Montgomery says it would be very hard to go away from sing in game two he played a terrific game we win 5-1 but if we decided to go with allmark we’re comfortable with it and our team’s comfortable with it going back to game two and then starting all marking game three this is the article talking would make a lot of sense but Montgomery still hasn’t revealed this final decision we’re not going to learn who’s starting until pregame warm-ups what do you want to happen I want Swan to play I want olark to play and I don’t hate what they suggest going game three to me it gets no matter the result almost it gets harder oh agree with that if if sway starts tonight and wins it gets harder to go toar even if that was your that’s a fair point that’s a fair point if sway starts today and loses I think it looks almost like a panic move or not a panic move but it looks like a okay he lost so now nowar goes in and nothing gets in sway’s head so I’m not saying sway would be like oh [ __ ] I lose one and I get yanked cuz it’s it’s probably all they probably know exactly true but it does get harder I think I would love to see if they’re going to do it I would love to see them do it now put all Mark in and just go like thisin back and forth back and forth back and forth back and forth that’s what I would love to see if they’re going to do the whole way yeah but I would also love to see sway just win 16 straight games come on [ __ ] unbelievable number two storyline this week I titled Matt Ry you son of a [ __ ] you son of a [ __ ] unbelievable uh I me the fact that he got the first goal everyone had those questions like should you even dress him playoffs because let’s be honest he he’s come out here he’s been an unbelievable fighter he’s had a great attitude but his play on the ice does it necessarily Warr warrant a roster spot I’m not sure but then he came in and he was buzzing he was flying around doing exactly the job he wanted to do he bangs in a goal and mg was going to explode yeah and then he has those comments after the game where he’s like I feel like I was built for playoffs and part of me’s like shut the [ __ ] up dude but the other part of me’s like exactly what he should say he’s doing he’s doing everything right even crazier Dan when two minutes into the game cuz he scored in the second period 0 Z after one two minutes into the game he takes a boarding penalty and the rags go on the PK and I was like I literally had the hot takes ready this is why you don’t dress Ry this is what we said he’s too out of control once playoffs start he’s going to do something stupid the Caps are going to score a playoff power play goal here and the whole series is off the rails and then they kill it off and then he scores and I was like never mind you’re the guy it’s I’ve been saying it for months dude just everything’s coming up ABS the whole Ry experiment has been um smashing success and now here we are in playoffs and it’s a smashing success it’s been one game but that was awesome Yep it it actually was awesome watching how far it up and and uh people are saying that everyone the fourth line did it but it was great to see bread score it was great to see Zeba pass to krider even strength for the goal but Jimmy VC getting one Ry getting one um the Rangers aren’t even at their full potential there vintage Cy goal too nice back that do come thece and way b um OV zero shots fourth time playf career yeah zero shots on goal Oshi zero shots stro one shot stifled stifled um yeah good point Dan give the Rangers credit but also if you’re the Caps guys oie did that to start this year right it was two games with no shots and then he second half of the Season turned into V vintage OV I picked them to get swept but if they’re even going to steal one game uh the boys got to put the on that yeah I mean that was huge all right the number one story AB Jets good God Almighty oh my God Dan an absolute slugfest an absolute slugfest in Winnipeg just crazy I mean what what else is there to say we knew that this series was going to be elite uh there was a lot of question marks about gorv and his mentality right now obviously you want to just take a second at all times just like say you know you hope he’s fine mentally everything like that and I think he probably is um but he’s been overplayed I I thought I I think he’s played said that 63 starts I think and um yeah I mean [ __ ] that game was just mental it just goal after goal after goal after goal it was so much fun so electric uh I was shocked how many goals hellu gave up seriously it’s like he still made 40 saves but but six went by him six went by him and I wouldn’t even say those were his fault but six went by him yeah it goes to show how good the ABS are how much Firepower they have but then also there there were the comments of you know maybe Winnipeg’s not that real maybe they’re not that serious of a team and here you go you slap Colorado in the mouth and put seven by them that’s insane the second like you had said last on the western preview app they they’ve tagged them three times and and tagged them so to do it again dude oh and you brought this up too I wrote this exact number down Winnipeg uh 199 goals against lowest in the league yep AB 304 goals for highest in the league yeah this is how remember that remember that Flames Oilers series two years ago when it turned into a track meet I’m like this is not how you want to play the Oilers or yeah the Oilers if you’re the Jets this is not how you want to play the ABS at all a lot of guys said that valard said it but at this point in the season you get a win it doesn’t matter how it happened and in fact when you look back on this series I’m sure a super a 13 goal game is one the Jets expected to lose and the fact that they won this one that way and I’m pring this goes seven that that could be all the difference right there totally um I thought that was fascinating um when uh nushin scored right away I was like here we go yeah [ __ ] ass dude the difference makers man the difference makers came out like we had nushin listed as a guy that was going to be a Difference Maker and then Kyle Connor was another one and he has two goals the thing that I think that you are really excited about with Winnipeg is like that’s a big win to get in front of your home crowd against an amazing team shows that you’re ready to score tough zero goals zero assists and you know he’s going to get going at some point so it’s like you’ve got a lot of Firepower happening right now incredible I cannot I’m salivating for the rest of that series oh same every game is going to be so good all right let’s get into hot ice this week I have one question for you Dan I wrote it this way comfortable wins question mark because we’re looking at two series the can’s Islander series and the Canucks PR series both favorite teams both home teams win by two on paper maybe you check the box score and you go they’re cruising I’m certainly all the canes like they’re going to sweep the Islanders and I have picked the PRS but I’m sure Canuck fans like yeah we won the interesting thing I felt like is the let’s start with the kanes yeah they are 1-1 Koozie scores a power play goal right away you’re like hell yeah but then it’s 1-1 into the third Freddy Anderson makes an insane diving save and he played fantastically unbelievable I thought unbelievable and you get you get one pretty close after that and then you you win 32 uh 3-1 the there were significant stretches of second period whole second period the Islanders are all over yeah so um Rod said we weren’t great after the game W said we feel pretty good we’ve been resilient since I got here we knew we were going to have to be resilient in this series we feel all right so it’s one of those games where I’m like you got the win you took care of business at home ice game one but I’m like I don’t know how good that felt honestly yeah man I mean the way I look at it is we’ve been clowning on the Islanders a bit with all the sweep talk but since wad they have been a different team and while we make the jokes about the negative goal differential and then being in the playoffs end of the day with W they’re in the positive goal differential and they won the games they had to win down the stretch and at the end of the day we we say you know if you win the games that matter and get you into playoffs you’re in playoffs I think they’re going to be a hard team to play against constantly I do think the canes are just much better and frankly this is why this kan’s team is good I mean with the exception of that one huge I mean there was a bunch of great saves he had that one Freddy had that one insane save while Islanders were kind of pumping them shots were way higher they the ice was definitely tilted in their favor they weren’t getting that many crazy high danger chances and I think Carolina’s happy to weather the storm they’re good at that their defense is phenomenal their goal tending has been phenomenal and they know that they’re going to capitalize on their chances which they did yeah so if you’re the Islanders you should feel good about that game but the difference is you can do that all day long and Carolina is going to be fine with you knocking on the door if they never push it open so you have to [ __ ] score you’re going to keep going like this we feel pretty good and you’re going to get swep out of the fores if they have another game let’s say they outplay them again which again Kane’s fans when I say that Islanders were beating the [ __ ] out of you I didn’t say they were going to win I said they’re beating the [ __ ] out you can take that all day long and be happy with it but if the Islanders win or or outplay them another game and lose I’m not okay with W being like we feel pretty good again cuz it’s like dude you got to score goals you got to steal games obviously they know that but it is one of those it’s like you can have the ice tilted in your favor all day but if you don’t score makes sense right that that’s that plays into the other team’s hand it’s not like they’re sitting there being like Oh my God we got away with one Carolina’s going no we’re fine with this game plan so you have get the canes lost both home games to the Islanders during the regular season and to come here at home and get outshot 3426 and win you go like this thank you see you later uh similar deal Canuck PRS Canuck win 42 we’re down 21 with 11 minutes left in the third I think it was actually sudor that got it not Quinn but Quinn gets one on the cage and then Joshua scores 12 seconds later completely sucks the life out of the building Joshua finishes with one more Canucks win by two everyone’s happy didn’t feel very happy through 50 minutes of that game yeah listen I hopped on the IG and I went big on my and this is what I said in the Western Conference preview I was like I love the PRS but I don’t think that this Canucks team is a young scared team that’s going to feel like the playoffs are too big for them and I stand by that but of all the games we mentioned Tampa against Florida Islanders against Carolina those teams going we lost but we feel pretty good if you’re Nashville you feel the best of those two because that is a game again you can’t live on two goals dude you cannot that two goals are not going to win you playoff games but if you’re Nashville you had a very momentary lapse of play and you led into quick quick goals and otherwise you won that game and Dan I would even say to just piggyback on you I think they were playing their best right before that shift were actually taking over the game and I was like this is done and and Elias Lindholm massive shout out to Elias Lindholm he has not had the best stretch since that trade and there have been a there’s been a lot of pressure put on him and a lot of expectations he came into this game immediately got on the score sheet and then he made his four check made that third goal happen he got in behind the net fast broke up the play got the puck free pass out front goal so to see him play that well if you’re a Canucks fan damn does that feel good and you better believe it feels great for him as well uh if you’re a PRS fan the Ryan O’Reilly nist forsberg link up I’ll be it on the power play but just to get them going like I said that’s the line so if you’re not scoring you’re dead that was fantastic let’s go baby so that was huge um the I agree with you completely maybe if you’re Nashville you’re like damn we gave one away on the road there but I’m in that locker and being like boys we had them um Dan the Demco looked looked good 20 22 Sor 17 of 20 very interesting just I think that’ll be a crazy story line because I was banging the trade Soros drum they get so hot they make the playoffs but now I’m like God damn I need you now buddy I I just I I don’t put any stock in that though cuz those two goals were I I think those were his defenseman and the guys around him’s error not his and they happened so quick I almost wipe it off the board it’s like to that point I was like you gave him one goal dude and honestly sometimes when there’s that few shots it’s almost worse cuz he’s like I haven’t seen any rubber today so what do you want from me so true um okay so we’ll be interested to see how those series shake out yes we will let’s throw it to Sean let’s toss this over to our boy Shawn MCD unbelievable iconic Sports Anchor has done it all in the world uh what a fun time some amazing stories in this one can’t wait for you guys to hear it all right everybody we are joined today see if I can do this one this might be the hardest one I’ve ever done it might be a no notes yeah right here right here wow a Syracuse Orange Alum uhhuh you’re one for one a Boston native and surely our boss and followers will recognize you as the voice of a billion Red Sox games on TV and radio yep a man who has called March Madness games an orange bow the College World Series Monday Night Football the US Open tennis the PGA championships the British Open The Masters three Winter Olympics wow okay unbelievably impressive he was at the time the youngest man ever to call a World Series game a national sports broadcaster of the Year Award winner multiple Sports mm winners the current voice of the NHL playoffs on ESPN and ABC and most importantly our friend well Sean MCD part of it to me too that was very impressive I don’t think I ever was national sports caster of the Year unless my family gave out the award okay in which case I might have been yes that was from that was from us that one’s Come Close I’ve been the a finalist a few times there it is yeah well I’m like Susan Luchi you know she never won me I get nominated a lot but more deserving people win let us tell you we’re so pumped to have you here and this happened by accident we met in a weit room in a hotel in hoken New Jersey sure did sure did Burpy Envy watching YouTube guys jumping around all over the place I was just looking for the vending machine where I get like a ring ding or whatever do they still make those abely that’s why I do all the burpees so I can eat those well it’s working for you two are impressively fit that’s usually when people like you are in there I just leave cuz I feel inadequate but uh I kind of needed the hey well you know what I got to say no one was in the gym grinding during Stadium Series it was just us three that’s half the battle right there and probably one of the nicest compliments I could give you guys you know there were four teams of the Stadium Series I thought these guys must play for one of these team so I thought you were an Islander or a flyer New Jersey Devil New York Ranger that right there is the only reason I keep working out it’s just like that that illusion that maybe I am in the league somehow so there you go that’s great um but yeah you kept bothering me with the hair I was I the hair was longer I had mine up yeah and I was I was flipping it a lot lot of flipping yeah um but we obviously for those who didn’t catch on Stadium Series in Hoboken New Jersey this is how we met our mutual friend Chris Rooney also keeping keeping us connected but I can’t tell you how many of our friends from growing up like Chris mentioned with all the Red Sox memories as this was leading up and we were talking and getting this set up so many of our Boston buddies were like oh my God I can’t wait for the stories that you’re going to get well you know what I guess that’s when you know you’re getting old right cuz people remember we we just did the Masters a few weeks ago now and the par three contest and this year we had some of the players who had uh airpods in and a wore a microphone for a hole or two and we just walk and they were walking and talking and we were interviewing it was really fun yeah so one of them was Keegan Bradley and as soon as I started talking the huge Red Sox as soon as I started talking to him he’s like this is the voice of my childhood in my ear here you know I think oh gosh the uh but I guess it was that long ago so yeah it’s it’s nice that uh people associate you with parts of their their life yeah absolutely and listen that’s a perfect segue into we’re going to get into hockey eventually but we have to talk about Red Sox because obviously we grew up with that and there’s so much of your life that’s tied to that your dad was writing for the globe you were kind of jammed in the radio Booth growing up and then you started getting into this game and you got your reps in with the Syracuse Chiefs games calling those wow you both did your homework and then uh you I had some college hockey in there as well but then you know you’ve said multiple times that core memory for you 1988 calling opening day at Fenway Park for the Boston Red Sox and that was one of those first holy [ __ ] moment yeah well when my dad would take us to spring training when he was covering the Red Sox when I was really young five six years old maybe uh the Red Sox are still training in Winter Haven Florida so uh six seven eight years old maybe even uh we’d get out of school for about a month we’d get homeschooled if you call it that my mom I don’t remember her being very enthusiastic about that I think it was mostly go play put Putt and go to the pool but there was probably some education in there the lack of Education probably explains where I am today as a matter of fact and then you we’ go over to the park in the afternoon and you know the writers couldn’t all bring their kids in the Press Box CU then it would be you know Romer room in there so but my dad was friendly with the radio announcers Ned Martin and Ken Coleman who were my two idols and then the cool thing was in 1988 when I got there they were both still doing the Red Sox gam so you know uh so I knew when I was five or six that’s what wanted to do and then I was 25 and on opening day in 1988 and uh yeah I just remember sitting there you know opening day it’s like the flags on the on the wall and the bunting everywhere and all the Pomp and Circumstance and I literally was staring at the field like oh my God I’ll borrow your phrase that you just use I always hate to swear on a microphone today might be your first actually I’ve done it accidentally but um no I just remember staring out the field like holy crap this is really my job I’m going to be living my childhood dream for a while unbelievable so insane so I mean I always love looking at when you have when you have that moment you know your your dad’s in this world you’re a fan then you have that oh my gosh moment of of getting to do that opening day game and then you Flash Forward 20 years later and socks are winning a World Series and I want to know a couple things one is there part of you that as a fan as a professional when you’ve put in all those hours you feel like a part of the fan family when that World Series Was Won was there a part of you that felt like you were along that Journey the whole way and it was you know even more meaningful and then two is it true that you have a World Series R yes uh yes it is you know the hard part when you’re a local team broadcaster is the local TV announcers don’t get to do the postseason baseball so you feel like you’re along for the ride and then you get there is the best part and you can’t do it it’s one of the fun things now about doing the radio although since I’ve been doing the radio Red Sox won postseason once I so uh I as usual my timing was bad I came in the year after they beat the Dodgers in the in the World Series so uh you kind of do um you know feel like you’re a part of it although you remember you guys being the hockey guys you remember Jacques zuar who played at be yeah uh I coached him in the New England proam summer hockey league that the oconnell ran maybe still do um so my buddy David Quinn now the coach of the Sharks was supposed to be the player coach he didn’t want to coach and I think it was one of the Year might have been was 94 the baseball work stop I wasn’t doing anything said come coach the team I can’t he said it’s a summer league just make the lines and yell at the refs so I’m like well I can do that so uh we had a good team we had Chris Drury and Mike Greer and Todd copelin a bunch of guys so uh so anyway um now I’m losing my my train oh so I got to know jacques’s brother Mark and he became a really good friend of mine so the year the Red Sox broke the curse way before the fall Mark jair asked me to come to his wedding in Maui in I don’t remember the date late October yeah so sure so now as it’s getting closer um I’m thinking oh my God this a nightmare the Red Sox going to be in the World Series yeah so um now they’re trailing the Yankees three games to none I’m like okay yeah this sucks but at least I’m not going to miss the World Series going to Maui Wing bada bing bada bing so they win so I am at game two at Fenway and I’m flying to Maui the next day and I run into a friend of mine who’s extremely wealthy and says I’m so glad I saw you I was going to call you I’m taking the jet to St Louis we’ve rented a house and he had all these I think Lenny Clark was going with him and a bunch of guys um come with us it’s a great seats you know I’m like okay um I can’t no I said one of my best pal is getting married and Mai you know so the next morning I met Logan getting ready for the like 92 I’m using my frequent flyer Mouse so it’s like Boston to Atlanta to Winnipeg to Honolulu to Maui and then you know if you ever been to Maui to over to calua that drives like an hour y so it’s a it’s literally almost like a 24-hour deal I walk into the lobby of the hotel Mark and Christine are in the lobby of the hotel putting Hawaiian Lake around the guest NE and she comes over and hugs me and the first word either one of them said when I got to the hotel was Christine saying I can’t believe you came I told Mark to tell you it’s okay the Red Sox are in the World Series Mark like yeah would a text Mark Mark relay that message dude so I was actually I don’t know 6,000 miles away or far away Maui is but the coolest thing and the reason I got on the plane yeah my dad had not Lo before passed away my dad was very much right and wrong and I was sitting in the airport sitting in Logan I’m thinking I’m going to bail I’m not getting on this plane I’m going to call my buddy I’m going to St Louis they’ll understand right and then I hear my dad’s voice in my head they’re your friends it’s more important so anyway I went but when the Red Sox there were a lot of Red Sox fans there when we were all at the pool when the Red Sox got the final out and I told everybody to St about my dad’s voice in my head yeah you know Hawaii late afternoon early evening you get those little rain showers and then right on the final out there was a rainbow right across the top of the hotel and my buddy said look that’s your dad yeah he knows they did it you know cuz my dad never saw the Red Sox wi the World Series so anyway long story thank you so much for sharing that so that was you know and then you get the call hey would you like to help MC the celebration on City Hall Plaza that would be great but we’re playing golf in were L today so what a great and we were there we were there but I do have the ring yes that’s fantastic which my nephew Jerry was never impressed by anything when he saw The Ring he was probably you know late teens at the time he looked at him the first thing he said when you die can I have that like that’s a really nice thought yeah yeah unbelievable J that’s the first thing that pops into your head yeah thank you cheering on an early death so he can get the ring yeah uh well actually speaking of your dad I wanted to ask you question and obviously it’s an emotional subject but I thought this was so beautiful your dad there were a lot of comments that I found that you had brought up too from Peter King Adam Sheffer John Clayton these guys that were saying this was really the first guy that was an informative writer of a huge publication to go on TV and all these guys careers he paved the way to do that so when you are calling all the things I expertly listed off at the top of this interview how cool does that feel for you to be carrying on his legacy your not just people Co that I had when my dad was at CBS uh some company made baseball cards of like the people on the NFL today and I have a laminated one in my briefcase and I take it out every game I do and I put it on the counter right up against the monitor just a reminder like don’t say or do something douchy you know make your dad proud be a professional work hard you know all the things that he did be fair yeah so uh yeah I mean he was the greatest role model for me ever on and year by far and uh really proud of his legacy I mean he was the first information man on TV it was really by accident the NFL today brought him down just to do a guess thing about something he had written and Brent musberger told me this story himself he said and your dad knew like everything that was going on around the league yeah he said we already used to send the you know this is back in the day you know the newspaper would come out at what time but he said we used to send an intern down to Time Square at like 7:00 on a Sunday morning so when the Sunday Globe got there go down there and get will m on a NFL notes column so we know what’s going on on the show today so my dad went down knew a lot Brent’s like we should bring him back again next week and then it kind of became a second that’s how it started wow that’s crazy and all those guys you mentioned have thanked me at one time or another or mentioned to me that I’m so grateful to your dad because if he didn’t do it and do it well then they might not have kept doing it yep and and I think that’s such a cool thing every time you read anyone talking about your job and your career it’s that it’s that wealth of sports knowledge that people love about you too so you know you people are going to be young kids now are going to be thanking you somay I just grew up you know I loved all the sports I mean we went to every game we’re sitting here at TD Garden you know I was every lot lots of games at the old Garden um including the Blizzard of 78 when we almost got stuck here when I was in high scho story of itself we actually made it back to the Boston Globe basically pushing my dad in the car down the highway from here to the globe few miles south but past every kind of abandoned car yeah uh but yeah saw a lot of game at Fenway Park and I I didn’t grow up wanting to be a broadcaster for one particular sport I loved all the sports I still do I watch everything and so you know when you list it off and I’m appreciative of that all the things at the beginning like if you said when you’re 25 and you started out doing the Red Sox game could you ever imagine you would have done all those things absolutely not right but I really wanted to I get asked all the time well all the sports you do which one’s the favorite and it’s cabba but it’s kind of whichever one I’m doing now like I’m here today I’m going to do a ruins playoff game about the bees yeah the against the leaves should be the leaves yes I say that I’m probably going to call them the leaves and see don’t do this Sean I Don’t Need You two teaming up on me with this one he he’s a big leaves guy him the leaves yeah listen I get it grammatically it’s correct but I I I listen it’s the Leafs and we’re just going to live with it it’s one of these mistakes go out in the fall and rake the leaves going Le the leaves it’s the leaves uh but one thing that’s come since what happened to your dad is your golf tournament and I wanted to ask you about that and just how much fun that’s been for you to organize and how moving it’s been to watch how much you get to meet the patients that you’re helping save their lives so just talk to us a little bit about that experience it’s you hit on both of them really it’s super fun it’s a lot of work but it’s super fun but more than that it’s ridiculously rewarding and inspiring you know the my dad died in 2003 January 9th 2003 he’ been having heart problems you know they did all the traditional tests that they do couldn’t figure out you know he didn’t have blockages and uh and he was you know healthy and worked out all the time played tennis and racket ball so anyway um they couldn’t figure it out so one of the things they had mentioned to him about a month before he died was cardiac amaldoss what’s that it’s a rare heart disease super rare you almost certainly don’t have it it’s a one in a million thing well how do you check if I do have it well we crack you open take your heart tissue sample it and then if you have it there’s probably not a lot we can do the only cures a a heart transplant yeah and my dad was 67 years old so he’s like well if it’s low percentage anyway so the day died he went in for a stress test they told him you’re as healthy as a 67y old guy can be get off the treadmill he said Can I Ease back into working out yes can I go to the Super Bowl which was a couple weeks later because he had been to everyone Y and he said yep certainly you know so he was really happy went to dinner came home was watching TV with my brother and dropped dead on the porch of our house they so the doctors begged us to do an autopsy because they were mystified and they felt kind of guilty sure felt inadequate so we did and that’s when they found out he did have cardiac osis so we had a golf tourament for years giving money to uh Children’s Charities around the state and then that kind of ran its course and then uh brigam and women’s has the foremost cardiac Amal amalo ois it’s a hard thing to say matter fact every year when Charles Barkley comes he says I I won’t can’t use Charles’s language here I don’t even know how to pronounce this disease so uh they’re doing great research um so we brought the golf tourament back five or six years ago now and uh it’s super fun and you know and it’s the the people who buy the forums the sponsors the volunteers the people at Boston Golf Club you know the Sam Adams has been tremendous to us Jim Cook um you know it’s it’s an army yeah but uh and it’s a ton of work but when you see the people there having a great time and you see the friendships that have been made but more than anything when you see I’m sorry it is emotional of course last year we you know we have a speaking program the night before at the Boston Harbor Hotel and then we have the golf T the next day so all the golfers are there the sponsors the whole thing and we have patience because I want somebody to get up and speak and say this is what it’s like this is where your money went um so there was this young man whose mom had been our speaker two or three three or four years probably three or four years before and after the speaking program was over and everybody’s kind of leaving he came over to me he said my mom is alive because of your golf tournament so you know when you hear that uh you have to keep doing it and we’re going to keep doing it till they cure it and they’re making progress um you still kind of need a heart transplant unfortunately but they can extend your life and make it a lot better and uh slow down the progression so uh we’re going to keep doing it we’ve raised a lot I mean last year we gave them 600,000 little event over a million in the well it’s I think it’s five years but one of them was a CO year we didn’t even have the ter that was my probably my favorite year people sent us $80,000 and got nothing in return they didn’t have a golf term in a party they just a good point we support the cause but uh the last two years when we’ve done the party and the tournament it’s been over $500,000 total is about 2 and a half million so far yeah that’s really just so amazing it’s in August right well they need the help you one of the problems and and uh you and we were three of us have been talking about a friend of mine who’s battling cancer and it’s really bad and I’ve been spending a lot of time with him the last month and a half or so the medical system in our country please fix it America is so messed up the drug companies and the insurance company you know these doctors and nurses and people are so dedicated and so invested in it and they’re fighting so many battles that they shouldn’t have to fight and one of the problems because they think cardiac Amal amalo ois is rare the government say you know not enough money not enough people have it we could spend our money on cancer other things covid or whatever so so the money that we give to them is really meaningful you know it’s one of the biggest if not the biggest grant that Dr faul and his team get every year is the money when that we incredible so yeah the big the big question is is the is the golf game going to be ready with the hand oh yeah I’m sorry I’ve been hiding my my bad hand people have probably been watching the hockey for months now like holy what’s going I mean this finger’s been wrapped up forever but detached the tendon it’s called mallet finger the uh so this tendon here that controls the tip of your finger popped off the bone so um had a cast for a long time that didn’t heal it tried to live with it that didn’t work uh cuz I was annoying the heck out of me and uh so then they went in and did surgery so right now I have a a stitches that are holding the tendon to the Bone and I have a pin to keep my finger straight just in time to play I’m a hockey it’s hockey play abely you’re playing through it hoey playoffs you got to play Hurt going to be perfect in time for golf season it’s going to be great well that’s why I did it now right everything everything evolves around Golf and I think well we’re on the air almost every day for two months during the hockey playoffs so not playing much golf or any golf anyway so let’s do it I mean this was just perfectly timed for you for being but like today getting ready for this game I’m trying to do my charts and my handwriting already sucks and now I’m sitting there yesterday we Did a New York Ranger game and I’m looking at my chart for some note that I know I wrote on there and I I have no idea what can’t read it yeah I’m like I had a really interesting timely note about this but I can’t gold in that case I should have just made it up yeah speaking of being back in the booth uh I had a really interesting thought that I wanted to bring up to you we you know our our seminal moments of watching sports are all of them are with guys like you you know voices of of our favorite teams every real fan has that you think those amazing calls and I really love that there’s so many different facets of the Sports World there’s there’s coaches there’s players there’s broadcasters and it’s been an interesting wave I think of the last several years 10 years or so you could call it where we’re seeing a lot more former athletes getting in the booth and in football you see Troy Aman has been doing a great job and you know love him or hate him Tony Romo adds a very you know specific and personal flare to the game and we’re starting to see it more in hockey now too with you know obviously guys like Biz and and Co Armstrong getting in there and PK is getting in there I’m curious what you think and Hank obviously too I’m curious how you feel about that as you know an icon of the sports broadcasting world and it it did sort of feel like there was always kind of this element that there was the guys in the booth and the guys in the field and now they’re starting to mesh a little bit more how do you feel about that as I think most of the you know I think there are more former players and coaches you know involved prominently than there were before but you know as long as I’ve been doing this which is a long time you know it’s pretty much the the play-by-play person you we’re talking about the games or even the studio shows you know were generally not former players now like Frank gford did the play-by-play Monday football for a long time he was a great player but Pat sumerall was a player who was a play-by-play person but usually you know the play-by-play person somebody like me who didn’t play anything past high school and then um you know then then the analyst was a former player coach so you know typically the way it works and you know that’s the way you should leave like we just did the Masters and I remember when the first time I got put on golf Network golf my golf Buddy’s like they they’re going to let you do golf like on TV the way the way you play I’m like you to say Ricochet I get to do football I’m not Tom Brady I me you know it’s like yeah just you know so but I don’t sit there when you know Tiger Woods is in the bunker analyzing how he should hit the shot right well you need to you know get make sure you accelerate through the ball and you but so I leave that to the anal and that’s generally what I try to do you know in the other sports that I do too now sometimes you can help lead the analyst into something like yeah are you surprised they’re not pulling the goalie or you know your spis not call a timeout or stuff like that yeah but for the most part you know we we should leave the analysis to the former players and coaches yeah I like that I think that it adds a good balance to that side I think but great word I think you do need balance and we don’t need to get into this but I thought it was really interesting hearing your quotes about the Monday Night Football experience and one of the criticisms was it can it was very it was steered a lot towards John guden in that moment where it’s like just X and O this baby and it’s like well I’m trying to do my job too and I think to your point it really need both yeah you need both you know John was pretty honest I mean for I for maybe the first time I talked to him after I got the job I knew him a little bit before I got the job but the uh he said I hate stories right oh [ __ ] I hate stories and the reason he hates the story is just you know especially if it takes two or three plays yeah that’s two or three plays where he can’t get out the tell Stater and say you know I call this 96 Wanda and blah you know so um he would get you know sometimes visibly annoyed if something went on a little longer than he thought it should so and he was great at it and that was his interest but the challenge for me was when they hired me they said you know we want you to bring out more of John’s personality cuz he has it yep but oh yeah but you know when you see it some on that you used to see it he doesn’t do it anymore on that Quarterback Camp show that he used to do where he and then um can you throw sorry no that’s the can you throw a wet ball that is our favorite quote of all time I was with Andrew luck no no was the Notre Dame kid um Brady uh Quinn it was Quinn Quinn yes you throw a wet ball just like the way he says he used to ask questions like that when we’d be in the production meetings know the day or two before with the teams before the Monday Night Football game but um so they said you know we want more storytelling we want more interaction with John you know you with Jerry Remy yeah yeah Bill RAF and Jay billis and you know you do a good job of bringing out the personality or engaging them in conversation or whatever to help do that so I’m like I can do this and I wanted to like when I was a kid Monday Night Football was fun right it was Howard coell this is going to be fun well John and you know just he wanted know part of the conversation and if you’re ask me a question I’m not circling the left tackle who did a great job on that corner Blitz you know so I kept saying like there was sometimes I I would say something to him he just wouldn’t respond at all so which is really really awkward when you’re National TV right cuz my friends and I would say well I it sounded like he was annoyed I’m like because he was he was he was very very so yeah how do you navigate out of that uh you ask him politely off the air even if you don’t want answered could you just answer cuz you know the the the awkward silence is really pain I’ve worked with 150 or 60 different analysts hosts whatever sideline reporters I kep kept a list of it and the there might be two or three I didn’t like and I don’t dislike John um but the but there’s nothing worse than when you’re watching a game and you kind of feel like these two don’t like each other you know it’s uh and every now and then I’ll hear a little exchange and because I know for my own of course they’re not feel wait till the commercial it’s going to be listen douche face oh wow that’s so funny feel like you’re you’re hearing that or you’re listening for that more and more when it doesn’t happen often because most of the time right if you’re together and you have that kind of chemistry you’re not going to stay together yeah you I didn’t think it was vibing with John Gruden but I thought when he went back to coaching that I might stay for another year but by then you know the plan was to go back to college football and I much prefer college football I’m an NFL fan but you know there’s a sameness when you’re broadcasting the game like the NFL teams they kind of all look the same play the same the stadiums are the same the presentations you know college every place is different they all have their own traditions and one teams playing option football and the other teams playing this and that you know so and the just the atmosphere on these campuses from the minute you get there on Wednesday or Thursday you know there’s a vibe in the town so uh I I was really happy you it was great to do Monday Night Football but when you take your ego out of it oh it’s Monday Night Football you take the ego out which ego is the enemy is a great book um you know you got to be happy and I was totally I was very happy and I’m very still very happy to be love when I think of your great calls of all time there’s an awesome list this won’t be a long conversation you kidding me Michigan Michigan State Blue Jays World Series Braves NLCS um dandorf he’s doing the thing again yeah I hope that was on camera that was a the Michigan Michigan State that was that the one of the worst memories of my life oh really you’re a Wolverine I didn’t go there but I’ve just been a lifelong Michigan man so um Yukon UNCC Nova you don’t have to pick your favorite but can you can you give us funny CU yesterday when we were at MSG I was going up in the elevator to the ceiling which is where most of these hockey broadcast which is bin oh yeah it’s like I tell friends of mine all the time you go to TD Garden buy a seat in the last row of the balcony the worst seat in there and then look up and further back and then you’ll see us wave at me then try to do trying to see the puck you know this big so uh anyway but yesterday I was going up in the elevator and the elevator door opened on one of the floors on the way up and there was an exhibit for the six overtime syon basketball game in 2009 I think it was which was unbelievable so good yeah but I was I’m lucky you know just being around that long and doing all these things you mentioned you know just the odds are at least a few times you’re going to be in the right place at the right time or something cool happens and then that’s the to me the most fun part of this is it’s live you know you get one shot at it like the players the coaches the officials and you either nail it or you’re okay or you totally whiff yeah you know the the Sid bream thing 1993 you guys probably weren’t even alive the um were you no yeah yeah you were yeah the um barely if you were so but it’s amazing I talk to colleges now and I’m referencing games that I did or players you know and and they’re just looking at me like who is that what pton Manning played football really yeah so I just thought he was that guy on TV you know but uh that’s a little bit of an exaggeration but um you know the the the Sid bream thing you know was probably the first of my kind of famous or inFAMOUS voice cracks when he slid across the plate and I thought oh my God you know that’s probably the biggest plan ever going to call my life it’s game seven of the World Series they were behind two to nothing going to the bottom of the night they rally and win I mean it’s one of the it is still one of the greatest games of all time and you know that call is going to be played forever and my voice cracked like I was a 12year old yeah and uh so when I got to the truck a long time later because we had a long postgame show um you guys know Billy Andre the golfer from rhod Island on the Champions now he’s a good friend he’s lived in Atlanta for a long time his wife Jody’s from there and uh they were in our booth in 1992 so we were walking down to the truck and I was like oh my God you know I don’t even know if they’re going let me do the World Series I may not be the youngest guy ever to do the World Series they’re going to give me the hook and uh when I got to the truck everybody came running over and was hugging me about that was so awesome like there you go okay y maybe it wasn’t so bad so you know to me like the Michigan Michigan State thing again there’s some voice cracking but your call should match the moment right I mean like it’s the most we’ve all been in watched a million games of broadcast of thousands of games but I’ve never seen an ending like that yeah and so sorry but no yeah you know it is what it is but you’re so right it’s those moments for us hearing it it’s like that you can feel the emotion from you you know it shows that you’re a fan it should be holy crap like oh my God what just happened there with that one Michigan kid you know that was the greatest thing you know and that’s to me the number one rule uh call the play in a moment like that and then shut up yeah they said Vince Scully in big moments would stand up and walk away from the microphone like this so he would avoid the temptation to say something M you can say that’s better than the pictures in the audio let them he was um I saw you say that about the um Henry Aron home run he didn’t talk and it’s like let the audience sit with it for a second I think that’s that was Chronicle it and get out of the way you know so many people want to keep talking because they kind of at least subliminally or maybe just you know consciously want to be attached to this moment forever so I’m just going to keep attaching my voice to this so every time someone watches it yeah you hear me yeah you hear me but that’s not what we’re there to do that’s awesome similar but a bit different do you have a favorite game regardless of the call regardless of maybe the moment is there a game that was unbelievable you know during covid when you know there were no live sports and every network is doing the greatest whatever games of all time players of all time but uh Major League Baseball Network did a series I think it was called baseball’s greatest games and I believe that game was number four yeah of all time yeah and you know it’s game seven of the NLCS which might be the most pressure packed thing you know at least if you lose in the World Series you made it to the World Series this you get as close as you can get to the World Series and that Pittsburgh Pirate team had you know that was their last chance with bonds and Jim Leland was the manager and bunch of other guys who probably weren’t going to be playing for them anymore so to lose and to lose in excruciating fashion and I thought a lot about it last fall and I’m going to get emotional again but because you know who would have been the MVP of that series if Pittsburgh had won Tim Wakefield get out of town he won two games in that series wow that is a killer yeah wow Tim Wakefield we talked about it a bunch matter of fact it became a running joke I was working with Tim McCarver Tim had played I don’t know if it was in the majors or the minor some with a guy named Bill Wakefield yeah and every time Tim took the mount every time we were into at Tim in the clubhouse he called him bill so that for for the next 30 Years every time I saw wake hey how you doing bill up Bill it was our own little private joke nobody else knew what we were talking about but uh yeah he I’m pretty sure he went two games and uh I’m not good at you know remembering the specifics but uh yeah he would have and then like that he was gone thank God for us because you know he he wasn’t as good and Pittsburgh let him go and he came here and you know won 200 games absolutely insane God what see all time you know when people die it’s always oh he was the greatest and what but everything everybody wrote and said about Tim Wakefield was 100% accurate you know sincerely a great teammate citizen of the community champion of Charity husband father friend you know you name it awesome um you know it he died way too young but at his memorial service the Red Sox did a great job and the wakefields did a great job as a family taking pictures and videos and I’m sitting there watching I’m like you know what 58 I think he was that that sucks and it’s way too short but this gu unbel he packed he had a top1 percentile life of all time regardless how long it was with everything that he did I mean pictures of the family all over the world and he’s playing golf at Augusta National he you know was a major league baseball Legend and champion and you know much admired citizen so uh it was too short but he he had a hell of a life y he did any um play any any broadcaster that you’ve worked with that you want to shout out that’s one of your all-time favorite Partners I know you so many great I had so many I love Jerry Remy um that was nine great years yeah um Bill rafter and Jay bis I do the basketball with you know the the football college football Todd blackl Greg mael right last year in one year we become really good friends Todd blackl and Chris Spielman I work with before him are two of my very closest friends you know most of the closest friends I have are people I’ve worked with yeah of course you know it’s you spend a lot of time together and uh share a lot of experiences you have a lot of time get on the road you’re talking about family stuff and the uh so yeah it’s I feel bad I’m Short Change of course of course but yeah that’s great even back to nesson college hockey the legendary Bob Norton who I just talked through the other day he’s 81 going strong remember he gave me a great note which I think I may use on this game tonight because as we’re talking you know some of the the question is are Bruins going to keep alternating goalies or and I talked to norts not too long ago and he’s he reminded me that when Jim Montgomery was at Maine playing for the late great Shawn Walsh in 1993 Maine that the year that year they won the national champion I think it was 93 um they alternated Goldies the entire year right through the Frozen Four it helps when you have Mike donam and car but they did it so I think in Jim Montgomery’s mind proven yeah that’s actually great great that may get in tonight the problem with hockey play byplay is there’s no time to even tell a story that long because in the first year this is our third year back the first year I didn’t realize as a broadcaster how much faster the game had gotten in the 17 years that ESPN was out yep and there were a number of times at the beginning where I was just in the middle of this rambling story and you know and the University of main goal oh geez you know here’s a penalty you know right in the middle of this so hockey it better be brief y or or on a stoppage because it’s amazing how fast you think okay the defenseman just standing behind his own net with the buck nothing’s going to happen here the che and it’s right in front of and bang it’s in theet and like son of a scking with hoey when we think of playoff hockey we think of Doc Emer I mean just one of the great icons of all time and you have some really awesome quotes that you said and moments about doc where you were actually in the stands in 2019 in the Bruins Blu right here right upstairs not going to talk about that was horrible it really was but you and when we were walking out there was a one you know it’s totally quiet right we’re just walking heading toward the escalators down and there’s a woman who says good for St Louis like we’ve had so much winning lately you know they’ve never won it good and everybody you’re in the wrong city that was that was not a widely held opinion by those who were leaving oh I saw this really awesome moment that you had with your buddies that I I I love stuff like this you said that you turned to your buddies and you looked at Doc doing what he does and he said it’d be really awesome to do something yeah I I grew up loving all the sports as I said earlier but but when I was a kid Bob Yore and the Bruins they were the thing even though the Celtics were winning all these championships and the Bruins started winning them but you know Bobby y was every kid my age and still is still I still get like a little nervous every time I’m around Bobby like CU Bobby yort knows my name now so cool and it’s really cool when you meet your idol and he’s like the nicest guy I played a lot of junior tennis growing up that was sort of my sport yeah and ball boyed at some tournaments and stuff and I idolized Rod Laver he was the greatest tennis player in the world when I was a young kid and so four or five years ago I was at Wimbledon and just as a fan and we’re in a restaurant in the hotel we’re staying in and I look over about as far A little further away than you are and I said I think that’s Rod Laver so I said to the matri D is that Rod lab yeah it is he was at four or five other people I said I don’t want to bother him I don’t want to say I just would love to buy him and his group drink yeah so the a d came over said he appreciates it very much um he’s they’re not staying too much longer but he said please come over and say hello there was a woman actually who in the group who recognized me I might said but anyway I he invited me to sit down IE all these pictures in my phone right here but he has his arm around me and I said to him it’s the coolest thing ever when somebody you know you’ve kind of idolized your whole life that turns out to be as nice as you are so yeah no that’s so cool um and Doc speaking of which nicest people of all time he’s he’s in any conversation oh my God great well I mean listen it’s like I just think it’s so great you know you’ve done all of these amazing things we went down the list but I just think it’s so cool Sean when you have that moment of saying you know later in your career saying it would be so cool to do that and then sit the stand just to finish the story and you know the I’ve been as we’ve said a lot of sporting events but the just the energy in the building before the puck drop Le to the an like this and sometimes when you’re in the booth you’re a little detached from that you I don’t know if it’s the walls you know experienced that much more as a fan and I just remember thinking how cool you know looking at where doc was how cool would it be to call this never thinking that I would hoping since I was a little kid literally lying on the floor in the living room in my little tape recorder calling the Bruins games back in those days the globe used to print like these little The rosters and and it was only one through 30 or 31 no one was number 68 or 98 or whatever so it was easy to remember and I knew all the Bruins names and numbers could probably still recite the B for back um but that’s that’s what I always wanted to do so a couple years later that was 2019 and we’ve been in at three years so uh you know I was walking down the street and I got a text from somebody hey we got the NHL bag and I immediately texted Jimmy pataro I’m like you know what he’s our runs I want this you know I’m not gonna mess around I’m just going to go straight to him so I text them said I’d love to be the lead play-by-play guy on this and we’re involved in some way he’s like oh that’s great so let me talk to the other people can make the decision so yeah it’s fantastic you were just talking about how fast the game is and looking at your career and all the things that you’ve done I mean you just said it and for the listeners again it’s something that maybe we don’t consider the those stories those little asides that you can do in other sports that you just can’t do in hockey it’s such an interesting thing and and I loved seeing this this little quote you had about doc something you admired about Doc is his little strategy of when when a shot goes doesn’t go in the net how he just does that like and it did not go and it’s you know that’s a pretty good imitation you don’t know was that was it a happens a lot right and I because you’re way up there I mean in most of these Arenas you’re dangling from this like here if people into the TD Garden you know the ice level is on the third floor of the of the building like if if you came up to the ice level you take the elevator to three from the street level and then we’re on nine yeah so we’re six stories basically above we’re like looking out a six-story window and uh and you’re set back this way too and and here is better than some I mean there are a bunch that are even further away yeah matter of fact last year when you’re thinking oh who what matchups do we want in these playoffs I’m always rooting for the team that has the low Booth to win like Vegas great Booth basically in the bar our buddy Dave goer who you guys go was here the uh go when the golden knights first started in t bu they were dangling from the ceiling and he I think he actually said something to Bill Foley the owner like you know this is awful so they build them a little booth it’s in the in the bar it’s at the top the last row of the lowest section you’re probably 20 rows off the ice Pittsburgh’s the same way you’re in the Captain Morgan Club um but you know most of them you’re you’re way up on the like matter of fact the only Stanley Cup Final we’ve done so far we have it again this year because we alternate with Turner uh we had two years ago Colorado and Tampa and those are probably two of the five worst you’re so high and so far back and so I think this year ESPN is going to do what they used to do for Doc what NBC used to do and buy up some seats or something and build a little platform down lower I came here to the bean pot and I was in a suite and I was and I took pictures and I sent it to my bosses like any chance we could get this close to the ice like this is amazing when you can actually see what happened and you don’t have to say and it did not go like do used to say and that means I don’t know if it missed the net the goalie stopped it you know if it hit the yeah I even like I don’t like to have a lot of crowd sound and the the noise you know that you hear sometimes on TV CU everybody my age who’s done this is completely deaf and I didn’t want to be complet so I always like everything kind of low yeah so Buddha our audio guy Dan Bernstein who’s here tonight I said Buddha you know when we first started the hockey they have mics in the net and every time you know there’s action Around the Net it’s like you couldn’t hear yourself talk so I said could you take the net mic out well now from where I am the puck is hitting the post yeah and everybody at home is hearing ping right and I don’t you can’t hear so I don’t know that it hit the post everybody’s like what are you a [ __ ] I mean just didn’t you hear the Ping well no I didn’t cuz I asked them to take that out and I’m 10 stories away and I have headphones on so the two years ago in the playoffs we were in New York I said okay Buddha I that’s I can’t have that happen you got to give me the net mic a little bit so very beginning of the game I don’t remember it was it was a Pittsburgh Penguin uh coming down the wing shoots Igor just sturing slides across like from post to post and you hear ping and I said H hit the post right so they show the replay it missed the net about this much well his skate of Hit the bottom of the post and caused the ping yeah so I’m like all right Buddha get the net mic back out of there so you know I just like I would love to be close but a lot of times we’re just not yeah one of my favorite things that I’ve noticed that doc does is the player name after I was just about to say the same thing as like he does that thing where like and going around the net to collect the puck is Phil kessle well that’s that I love that strategy well that’s a very effective way of giving yourself extra time to figure out right like he’s like I have no idea who this is and oh it’s I used to listen to Jack Buck on Monday Night Football on the radio with Han stram right yeah and he was the king of and it’s caught at the 42 yard line that’s the big tight end number 88 he’s at the 30 and it’s Jay novich like sounds Us’s looking for the number you know and that that happens a lot and especially from where we are you know one of the things you have to do in hockey broadcasting is not only memorize all the names and numbers um but sometimes the numbers can look alike 15 can look like 16 can look like 18 or 19 yeah so now you actually have to memorize okay 13’s a left shot 15’s a right shot that guy skates hunched over this guy’s more upright skater whatever it is cuz it’s just you’re so far away the that a lot of times you’re guessing tot a lot of times it’s an educated guess we were joking around I forget who it was um I think it might have been with with army but uh last year the year before Tampa had those blackout jerseys and the numbers were BL as well and it was like what you expect to do last year in Florida uhhuh when they came out they had the exact same uniform right the exact same uniform remember Ray Ferraro was between the benches and the officials came out and said what the hell are we supposed to do with this yeah it’s like Capri off sent a guy on the other team in on a breakaway thinking he was on his team and they took a shot at the bench and they’re all laughing like yeah of course what are we going to do so so you’re all fired up to go to the All-Star Game and from the minute they took the ice I thought this is going to be the longest three hours of my life and they have double numbers and also right God yeah so people but people watching don’t know and they don’t really care yes right so don’t make excuses do the best you can I don’t know if you’re allowed to do this but if you are do you have any who you like this year any cup favorites any predic Espin just published okay our picks for yeah uh who’s going to win each of these first round series and then um who we’re going to pick I picked Carolina in the preseason so I just stayed with them I like that looking good gone wire to wire I like that yeah I think adding gensel was huge to me and I think to most people the thing that’s always held them back is just not enough guys you could rely on for scoring and KZ Nets off you know he he looked like he was done in Washington I mean they basically you know said goodbye you know and then bang first bang so sometimes it changes scenery and he took a little time away so maybe that helped but the um yeah so I like them especially if they continue to get really good goal tending like they’ve been getting so um but there’s there’s a bunch of teams that could that could win you know the Rangers we had the other day they could win umid Dallas is really good would anybody be surprised if Vegas as the eight seed one shie we were just talking about it it’s like I mean h look at that everyone’s Pet’s back stoner’s back like everyone’s healthy again I swear it’s miraculous how they all get healthy right look at that I swear that Dallas Vegas and Florida Tampa series that the winner of that first round matchup could could be the final Dallas V last year in the Western Conference Final y um again a win yep two good not as low as Vegas but lower than most so this is something I’m going to keep an eye on hopefully we’re they’re going to build some platforms yeah y you know MSG is fine it’s a little higher than you want to be but it’s it’s doable yeah but there’s just a Carolina my God so you’re scw if you’re SC you might as well be calling it from the goody year blimp okay so how’s the how’s the booth at at Florida cuz when we were yeah we were up there in the media room I was like this is [ __ ] insane I’d rather just walk Concourse thank you for speaking my thought every time I walk in there I mean it is like it’s comically high that one it really is you have no chance yeah and you know it’s just an educated guess a lot of the time it really is and then you you know like people say is it okay having Ray Ferraro not in the booth next to you like yeah somebody needs to be down there to see what happened yeah I tell them like if you know that puck was deflected or hit somebody off the feel free to say I won’t feel like you’re correcting me you know the the number one thing for us is to get it right no matter what so what I’ve done what I’ve done a better job of now is not really commit going to the doc Emer School of Around the Net and he’s going to fetch the puck and that’s the big defenseman you know yeah sergachev whatever so um yeah so I at the beginning I was a little too committed to getting the call in real time and there’s nothing worse than you have to go back and correct it so so now we we wait and it’s cool I think you’ve said about building the chemistry with someone not in the booth next to you and I think you guys have done such a good job of thatw the first two or three games we did we were together Y and not only a lot of these booths far away but they’re really smalltiny yeah and I am legendarily nerdy about I have charts and you know my Gruden used to love my football spotting chart which is about the size of this monitor right remember we were on the air one time and he compared it to Andy Reid’s play calling chart that he has on the sideline and uh so I need my space Y and you know the we did a game here the one of the first games we did together and between Ivan our stage manager SL that guy me and Ray we almost couldn’t stand shoulder toh shoulder so when Ray said you know in Canada all these years I’ve been between the benches how would you feel about that like I feel really good about feel great about yeah and and please love it and stay down there and you know you worry about stepping on each other but we really don’t that much and um you know what I try to do is natural pauses you know the GU behind his own holding the puck if the play’s been going on for a while pause because maybe Ray wants to come in if they’re kind of mosing around Center Ice there’s a time and then he I try to give them all the time on the stoppages yeah sure so um it’s interesting to hear there really is a dance about it of you know giving each other time finding the right Cadence that’s really cool it takes time but it he’s been invaluable being down there between the benches CU he sees and hears things that we would never you know I remember the kid coet cof the the uh in car Carolina Goldie a couple years ago he came over to the bench during the game and Ray was right next to the bench and we don’t know what’s going on and there was a delay and they said the problem is nobody speaks Russian though they don’t understand what he’s asking so they had to get fetch nikov from the other end of the bench and he had a problem with his skate they’re like oh fetch nikov said he needs to have his skate fixed got so funny that is so funny yeah he hears a lot of stuff you know the Bruins in Florida Series last year like kachuck and marshan and all this snip well he hears all edit some of it oh yeah so it’s it’s very valuable having them down there no doubt about it all right Sean I know we got to get you in the garden here yeah I’m going to go see Jim Montgomery this wish we could go for much longer I agree can I invite myself back I that was I was just getting to that cuz this is I mean we could do this for hours and hours and hours and I hope we do in the future but we’ll get you into the garden before we let you go and before we say thank you so much for this this so amazing is there anything you want to shout out anything you want to just appreciate you two very much it’s lot of fun and thanks for mentioning the charity if people want to uh please want to do that they can find it’s the sea McDon Celebrity Golf Classic and Bram and women’s there’s links that people want to donate that would be great but uh great but no pressure you know just uh and thank you great to be with you guys oh my God it’s the best we’ll do it again soon are you going to now just start jumping up and down and doing par yes there’s actually a full gym in the other room that we’re just going to run right up no but seriously Sean thank you so much was so fun pleas thank you awesome huge thank you to Sea mcdna that was one of the favorite interviews I’ve done in a long time he is a great person an even better friend and I can’t wait to have him back yeah he’s going to be back for sure that conversation made me want to get in the booth I’ve never I’ve never felt that way in my life and uh that just goes to show how cool he is and and how special he’s made the job absolutely insane all right quick mailbag we’ve got three questions that we got to hit they’re kind of covering all the teams I love it first one is who do you think will be the biggest rat in these playoffs great one and hey thank you to everyone submitting we’re going to do this every week so keep them coming um we’re going to get to as many as we have time for every week the biggest rat man obviously we’re here in Boston I want to say marshy but I’m going to go give me Sam Bennett I just feel like he crossed so many problems last year couple High hits like a solid know he’s up he’s in the mixer all the time and I think that Florida team’s going to make a run and I think they play with a lot of that that maybe what is it for the Panthers scratch claw they play a lot of that claw let’s call it so I I’ll take Sam Bennett on that one I like it I first of all I’m a sensitive boy I hate the term rat yeah um I just I think that there’s a way to be players like this and you’re not a rat I like pest more I am going to go Mary there’s something about this season seeing him wearing the sea on his sweater and the way he has not shied away from that element of his game at all uh especially against Toronto in the reg she’s in the ways that he’s just yapping at the bench he was going neck and neck going at the throat rather with u Marner yeah I I just think I think Mary’s got like an extra element of of of fire under his skin and I think he’s going to really get under people you know get people hot under the collar if our picks are right next round we’ll see a couple pests going head to-head yeah I’d like that very much um all right hit me with the next one next question is give us your top top five players in the playoffs O Okay um I would say that my top five guys in the league are like still in the playoffs so I I don’t want to necessarily just do that um I’m I’m gonna say Nate Dog Nate dog is my one I think he is so insane and I just especially after that first loss to I think he’s going to kick it into an even higher gear I’m going to go Connor after that uh I just think he’s undeniable even even if and when they lose he’s always undeniable what was was it last year or the year before it’s like they lost and then it took a full another round for someone to pass him in points yeah you’re right what is going on absolute might have doing that AB mutant after that I’m going David pack okay pasta has just been a perennial performer in the playoffs I don’t don’t think he gets his flowers enough when it comes to his playoff points he was quiet in game one but was happy too because a lot of other secondary scoring came which love to see and I just I think he’s been a performer all year I think he elevates his teammates and I’m I’m excited to see him keep pumping I’m going panarin o good one I’m going panan uh I I feel insane doing this over cooch but I am going panan I think he the last two seasons he’s been unreal this year best year of his career obviously gets off the board gets on the board uh in game one right away I think we’re going to see some big stuff from him and then I just I have to go cooch after to that yep okay that’s a fantastic list it’s probably a correct list cuz the three MVP finalists are in it I’m just going to go a little rogue for people cuz I like this question so much and I’m going to tell you the top five guys I think and let’s just call it round one because it’s hard to predict who’s going to get out it’s a couple tasty Series so round one here are my top five performers ready Dan number five saying in New York Chris krider I just think he had the Breakaway tuck in game one he is going to have at least three Power Play Goals against this cap team that series I think is only to go four games but I just really think krider is going to he almost had one he almost had two uh in game one because he almost had a power play goal he is he is UN IM immovable in front of the net and he is going to put one in y um number four give me Jonathan maraso 42 goals this year um I don’t think they’re I have picked Dallas to get by them I could easily see Vegas getting by them but I just think Mary has been the uh every time that team has needed a goal this year Mary has been the guy and I love God Willie Ikes a million guys can score on that team but I just think Jonathan Maro is going to stay hot and have a bunch of goals on that Squad um number three number three Jake gensel um absolute heat smoke the rest of the regular season on the canes I believe pointless in game one uh I’m not I don’t remember I believe pointless and this one could bite me because they I also think that’s going to be a quick series but he has just been everything that team needed uh down the stretch here and I think he really continues in the playoffs he has playoff success in his past he knows what it takes to win the win the finals he is going to be the guy for this team pointless in game one number two Matthew kachuck uh I’ve been on him the whole second half how could I not have my boy here I think the Panthers are the best team in the league top two Dallas I don’t know he’s just off mine he already scored and I just think he’s bus in 10 baby here we go um and number one round one performer Kyle Connor two tucks in game one guy’s going to have five five goals in the first round five goals and damn near double digit points if not double digit points best performer of round one what’s really funny is I I think we did this list so differently yeah we did that’s why I wanted they asked us who are the five best players in the playoffs and you gave five like completely off the five best players in the playoffs list but those are very good the top three are very good are going to perform which I really like okay um all right our final one should officials call Less in the playoffs or doesn’t matter as long as it’s consistent hold on so if you think they should call it differently say yes if you think they shouldn’t call it differently say no on three if they should call it differently say yes if they shouldn’t call it differently say no ready okay three two one yes nice but but I have a caveat to M okay um in the third period oh first two periods cuz dude here’s the thing man I don’t think playoffs should change the way you call the game and I don’t think it should change the way that you allow players to play the game if you [ __ ] trip me it’s a trip dude and it’s even the little ones like you know you might call an elbow you might call an interference that in the playoffs you’re like ah I’m not going to call that one again if like the question said if you keep it consistent and every ref is like we’re we’re not going to call as much we’re all doing this and you keep that same consist level great I just think that’s hard to do I think it’s hard for everyone to go we’re changing the way we do this but it’s going to be consistently changed that’s difficult so I I think first two periods dude this is a [ __ ] hockey game if you commit a penalty you’re getting called you’re going to the Box third period I am okay with I’m and the term that we always say is swallowing the whistle I am okay with swallowing the whistle in the third period as long as the entire league is doing it and as long as every game does it too the trips the delay games and the high sticks have to get called and and like egregious like hitting from behind or like you know some elbow across the face like of course anything egregious for me the the difference in the playoffs because you’re right those are penalties should be the hit hit stuff and the hold stuff and some of the hook stuff you know it’s like hits that you might have called interference or or roughing I’m like let him go I almost didn’t want to agree with you on the swall The Whistle stuff because I’m kind of like I hate I hate the like well it was a penalty in the first it’s not in the third but but even when I’m watching I can feel myself being like dude let them play Let Them finish it themselves um OT as well I’m like literally dude don’t call anything yes unless it is one you have to call which is like a high stick and he’s bleeding or delay game and we I know we both hate delay game uh the last thing I’ll say in this topic Dan and I I think some people disagree with this um I am completely for penalties like if one team is have a bunch of pen power plays [ __ ] find something to call like period it’s just it’s so unfair one team takes four penalties and one death dude to it’s such a crazy take by you cuz I get it but it’s such a crazy take because if a team is playing a clean game and you just go like this ah we’re going to just call that one I’m like no dude they’re playing better than you and not committing penalties so they shouldn’t go to the box if they were actually playing a perfectly clean game then yes of course I agree with no there’s always something that that could that [ __ ] dude it’s not football there’s not a hold on every play the the like the things that you’re like yeah we can call that one that’s not a penalty you’re just doing it cuz you’re a [ __ ] and you want to even it out well my point is it’s crazy my point is this if there’s a hold that we both agree like it’s playoffs that’s a hold regular season but it’s not a hold in playoff sure that one but then I go if it’s skewed I’m like call it dude there there are perfectly clean games played by teams dude I’m telling you I’ll accept that and I’m saying if that’s the case I think it’s [ __ ] if you’re just going yeah we’re going to give them two because the other team made shitty plays even it out even it out you’re out of your mind great questions fantastic questions fantastic questions all right Dan let’s get into saucy predictions I know a lot of people thought that was going to be done in the regular season it’s not hell no I’ve got an addiction to hot wings now I I can’t get enough of it when we do an episode and we don’t rip the hot sauce I feel like something’s missing not only in my mouth but in my life so sauage predictions continue it’s going to be in the Tuesday up so we’re going to be do we’re not going to do it it’s going to be the full week we have the SAU prediction till the next week we’ll be back in the Tuesday up we don’t have we don’t have to any punishment this week Dan probably the only week all playoffs will have no punishment because we I’m going to hit every single and got mine and it’s mine is scorching oh okay scorchingly sa you want to start yes I do yep my Saucy prediction for the week by this time next week our tamy panan will lead the Stanley Cup playoffs in points in points they going to say Goals I like it he had how many in game one he had one one point but it was beautiful came from laugh so the connection continues yep the Rangers are buzzing everyone thought everyone thought oh regular season doesn’t matter we’re going to get to the playoffs president’s trophy is President’s trophy curse is real the Rangers can’t do it they’re perennial chokers ho home would you look at that a 5-1 dick slapping of the capitals and Ry gets on the board panarin gets on the board getting paid not a lot of money for [ __ ] working dude the Rangers are absolutely buzzing and panarin is staying hot he will be leading the league the playoffs in points this time a lot of guys had three burgers in game ones don’t care okay don’t care he doesn’t care he doesn’t care at all care okay I love it mine is a massive overreaction already okay I I would expect nothing else of You by this time but at this point next week a week from today yeah two teams gone will be out of the playoff two sweeps two maybe three come on no but two is my prediction two is my prediction dud this guy I mean I’m massively overreacting and this is one of those ones too where I hate when my Saucy prediction is dead a day after I make it you know it’s gon to be yeah and I’m like oh damn that’s what’s great he like we’ll be watching games on Thursday and you’ll be like this you’ll be you’ll be doing the math Allan from The Hangover at the CRA at the blackjack tables just all the numbers going around your head going is anyone possibly going to get swept and the answer is no two teams going to be out do you know who I think you know I think could be I was about to ask are you going to Grace us with your guesses of who’s going to get swept let me there are three teams I think that could get swept I think you think the Islanders are going to get swept ping that’s one of them I think you think the capitals are going to get swept ping I think you think the Leafs are going to get swept did I just go three for three that’s a that’s a sweet P I’m massively overreacting I’m aware of that but I’m just telling you two teams when we’re when this Tuesday up next Tuesday up drops two teams gone I like it two teams already Golfing down they are both of ours a bonus third Saucy prediction is we’re both going to be eating hot sauce next so enjoy that all right that is it for us today at the Anon podcast we got to get into the garden for this game two match up between the Bruins and the Maple Leafs unbelievable stuff guys we will see you again in a few days for the next episode and until then skate hard

9 Comments

@undraftedhockeyfan 1 year ago
Thank you for the quick turn around. Hockey moves so fast that I getting eps out quick is huge for me. Thanks again!!❤❤❤
@nolanbuote3949 1 year ago
Hell of a pick w Hyman off rip, went and got a Hatty! Love the pod
@Usiris23 1 year ago
Saucy prediction failed already 😂 but I’ll allow it, since the leafs were your last “PING”
@harvey1115 1 year ago
12:50 kraken chased Otter off the ice at least once in those playoffs last year
@codiwilder6244 1 year ago
It is "Leafs" not "Leaves" because it is a proper noun in its description of the singular organization. "Leafs" is correct.
@izaksmith538 1 year ago
So Chris is Paul Maurice now? Play the dirtiest game possible and pressure the refs to make phantom calls against the other team to even it up!?!? 🤨😆
@nickdicristofaro175 1 year ago
Hymans hatty last night, must’ve listened to the boys
@robsargeant4737 1 year ago
Vegas woke up 🥶 we’re all so screwed
@jfallon20 1 year ago
One of my favorite podcast guests ever, loved to hear the broadcasters pov and what goes into it

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