Draft Show: Wrapping Up Day 3 | Dallas Cowboys 2024

The Cowboys have a long wait until pick 174… who will they take? The Draft Show crew wraps up the final day of the 2024 NFL Draft.

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show your war room for Insider news and
draft analysis from deep within the
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Frisco we like to call it day three
rounds 4 through 7 as we put a bow on
the NFL draft on one of the best
weekends of the entire year Zack wolchuk
alongside Bobby belt Nick Harris and
Aisha Morrison and then of course the
Super Bowl winning Scout Brian brus
thank you so much for hanging out with
us over the course of this three-day NFL
draft we have two rounds in the books we
got four picks for the cowboys that have
been made starting with of course Tyler
gon who they selected in the first round
at pick 29 moving back picking up an
extra pick pick 73 they took more shot
neand The Edge out of Western Michigan
last night in the second round at 56
followed by Cooper BB the guard Sloss
Center out of Kansas state with that
73rd pick all is right in the world and
then of course meist lual the linebacker
out of Notre Dame at pick 87 in the
third round today though going to be a
bit of a long wait unless the Cowboys
want to move back up into the fourth
round they don’t have a pick until
174 in the fifth and the estimated timer
for that could be anywhere from 3:00 to
3:30 when the Cowboys could be on the
clock so maybe a long wait but there’s a
lot of question marks still a lot of
great players on the board Bobby how you
feeling so far about the way this
draft’s going uh I mean really good you
you obviously the one glaring need I
think that they haven’t touched yet as
running back um but they will you know I
think that they feel confident that it
somebody will be there in the fifth
round running backs are sliding down the
board it appears in general and look
they’ve they’ve had a decent history of
being able to grab day three backs not
just recently with a guy like Tony Pard
but if you look over the course of just
you know the time that they’ve been here
in place over the last 20 years but I I
think that the the thing for me is I’m
going to be watching which running backs
are sliding down the board at at you
know heading into the fifth round
because I I feel like the blinking
positional lights have all been
addressed to this
point Bobby I was going to ask you with
uh with what you said about the running
backs possibly sliding well well they’re
clearly sliding do you think in any
situation that in that fourth round if
there’s a run that they might feel any
urgency to go get a guy I I I don’t
personally but I I mean it’s it’s just
because I think that everything’s shown
that it’s just kind of sliding down
pushing down well one of the beautiful
things about day three is we are awarded
uh several Scouts and coaches to get to
talk to one of which is Ross win a
National Scout Ross how you doing sir
Zack walchuk we haven’t another the
pleasure of meeting in person but it’s a
pleasure to get to chat with you man how
you feeling howdy uh good be a long day
today looking forward to it yeah it is
it’s going to be a little bit of a long
wait for the next pick but so far quite
a hall I mean I know you’re someone with
a national Scout you’ve gotten to have
grades on all of these players so what
stands out to you first of course about
Tyler gon who you’re able to get picking
up an extra pick but then selecting at
29 yeah that one was fun um obviously
getting to to take our guy and then pick
up what we believe is a future starter
for free that was awesome too so uh yeah
Tyler high level uh left tackle um keep
Tyler at left guard Tyler Smith at left
guard which is huge for us just to keep
him there and uh get to build around him
uh guidance upside is through the roof
one of the most athletic tackles I’ve
done uh just overall traits so um
excited to get him in here get him with
that position group those guys know how
to work so uh we’re going to get the
most out of him for sure when when you
are projecting somebody like that who
plays right tackle most of the time I
mean I think what it was one game at
Oklahoma he he had on the left side what
kind of things are you looking for to
say I I feel comfortable that he can
flip to the left side the cool thing
about him is he was The Blindside
protector at OU so uh I mean Dylan
Gabriel left-handed guy so he’s used to
that kind of pressure uh obviously I
mean just his his he has left tackle
footwork which is crucial for that
position we feel like we can clean the
hands up get him to play there but he’s
got the feet which translates first in
my opinion so how much homework do you
guys put into potential tradeback
opportunities throughout the evaluation
process and is there a specific Target
that you guys were maybe looking for in
the late 20s early 30s uh as the weeks
got closer uh some of the strategy
meetings that that’s big um just you
know what guys we would feel comfortable
slipping back from uh what are we trying
to get looking behind us who could also
pluck one of our guys um there’s a lot
of variables but we do a lot of strategy
work there um we did some before then
felt good about the opportunity to pick
up a three still feel good where we’re
at and pick a player that’ll help us win
yeah then all in all I mean getting that
extra pick at 73 to be able to sh up
that interior offensive line hole you
got to feel pretty good about that
offensive line hle right yeah that was
sweet um grabbin Coupe um excellent
player I mean we’re we’re really excited
about him he fits the culture of our
guys um I I just watched I guess his
phone call last night he sounds super
excited so we’re happy to have him um
guard Center Flor
he’s played a lot of positions there so
he fits the mold of a cowboy offensive
lineman for sure yeah I uh I have kind
of probably an Overman crush on Cooper
BB one of my favorite players in this
entire draft gram Barton certainly was
there as well but now you’re able to
double up on the offensive line gon and
Cooper BBE now as you project ahead as
the offensive line you mentioned the
importance of keeping Tyler Smith at
guard but the competition that you guys
have built in that room now what stands
out to you about that and the depth yeah
I mean and we still got Brock we love
Brock and TJ’s upside is awesome uh we
feel really good about that you know
right guard the left half spot obviously
T Steel’s got the right Tackle Spot
locked down we feel real good about that
but the competition um the ability to
cross train those guys guard Center
helps us game day
versatility um yeah keeping Tyler Smith
the left left guard was huge for us
because we just think he’s um I mean
obviously an all pro level but you know
you don’t want to project too far ahead
but we love you know the upside there at
left guard talking with Ross wiy here on
1053 The Fan in dallascowboys.com
talking about those projections like I
know you broke down going with gon from
right to left but Cooper BB who has
played along the entire offensive line
but what goes into that projection of a
position change for some of these
players when you look at BB and can he
project to Center um for us it’s always
the ability to uh reach and seal so be
able to reach get his hat across um
leverage a you know three technique of
shade which he’s been able to do that
and then uh the The Tackle feet that he
displayed um and then for us obviously
the ability to bend and create that
natural leverage which is something we
think he does great um and then you know
seeing him do it um throughout the
workout process and actually seeing him
be able to snap quick to contact and
just look natural doing it and so
everything we saw there he looks smooth
looks like he can handle it even with
the dad BD I love
it one more quick follow up on the Ed of
Center just as a projection when you’re
talking about projecting somebody to
Center when they’ve played guard which
is the the more difficult thing for you
in the scouting process is it the just
the mechanics of snapping the ball and
playing off there or is it more the
questions of mental processing and
checks at the line of scrimmage that
you’re wondering how he can handle it
yeah I think it’s the mental demands are
extreme um it’ll help it’ll help Dak out
I mean doc dak’s obviously I think his
his pre- snap stuff is Elite but being
able to just take a little bit more off
him um Cooper’s great from FBI
standpoint he understands the game uh
it’s real natural to him so that’s I
think that being able to project a
center that’s that’s crucial just the
the mental demands of the game marshan
nean is a gentleman that is still you
know developing his pass rush and things
like that but from a run game
perspective he has a very natural feel
for how to stack shed tackle um is that
something that y’all think he can come
in and help with immediately yeah 100% I
mean his the the play style what we call
it it jumps off the tape um there’s a
lot of Lawrence comps and there’s a
reason I mean he’s the same kind of guy
um but his upside I mean he’s we think
he can still fill out if he wants to we
can keep him at 266 whatever he’s got a
lot of flexibility there uh but the pass
rush toolbox is there and he’s got
length uh the testing numbers are
through the roof um so I think initially
the Run game stuff will be dominant but
he’s got you know pass rush traits yeah
he’s got some snap and pop to him when
you watch him play against the offensive
lineman I mean it’s immediate with the
hands and you’re thinking like okay this
guy’s got some upper body pop to him
yeah yeah I mean obviously like G5 or
whatever you call it uh you look for
best comp and I think it’s first snap
against Iowa um I guess it’s you know
they’re running outside zonea way uh he
gets his hat in the crack falls back and
yep decapitates the running back so he
showed he could do it against you know
level of confident obviously senior ball
so I’m curious it’s just kind of a a
general we’ll we’ll only keep it to
people who are not available right now
we don’t tip anything but you know we’ve
talked about there’s been a lot of
discussion about Xavier worthy speed um
you know I know Aisha the other day was
talking about you know chop Robinson’s
explosiveness when when you talk about
like your favorite trait of a player
that you scouted this year who who’s
some that you just go like man I love
that guy’s arm or like oh man that guy’s
speed that’s really special what was
your favorite trait you saw this
year I’m not going to toot our own
horn but go ahead but probably maris’s
play style yeah um he’s got we got a
great vision for him um I did talo hanga
coming out of SC and there’s a lot of
like not just the play style but the
wiring of the kid he’s a he’s a cowboy
through and through phenomenal kid um
but his ability to play from the slot um
he can cover number two we can put him
in the Box he’s got high level Rush
tools uh just his play style and also
bringing in neand like we feel like we
kind of upgraded the the temperament
there could you have expected coming out
of the first two days with an edge or
was it kind of a possibility as that 56
was nearing it’s like hey this is a
pretty good player that’s stting
kneeling here yeah I mean he was kind of
a blinking light that you know we’ve
discussed I guess what’s today Saturday
so Thursday night just looking forward
uh he’s one of those guys are a
conviction pick everybody who watched
the player um loved him and you know
that’s Personnel coaching like there was
usually we do a pretty good job when we
we all have clear eyes on a guy and he
was one that was like this is a cowboy
so and with Maris do you think the
increase and I guess special teams value
at that linebacker position going into
this draft on do kickoff rules and
things of that nature do you think that
kind of also was another positive for
you guys to be able to pull at 87 yeah
and we got a Ace in the Hole with bones
you know bones bones knows what we’re
looking for there um yeah I mean his his
versatility um for sure Ross uh last one
for you I know Don Bland was one of your
guys I’m assuming when you were scouting
him you knew eventually he was going to
break the interception return for
Touchdown record in the single
season hell of an eye there R I wish uh
we we bet on the kid and obviously it
paid off he’s he’s phenomenal so we’re
happy to have him awesome thank you so
much man we appreciate you there he is
Ross wiy thanks dude appreciate you day
of the scouts here 1053 The Fan and
dallascowboys.com and from one Scout to
another we’ve got Mitch Le Point Mitch
who we got to talk with last year Zack
wo could talk to you again Mitch Mitch
how you feeling so far this has been a
crazy couple of days you’re able to move
back I do want to ask like H how much
were you sweating going back from 24 to
29 I know Jerry and stepen said you had
about four guys in that cluster oh yeah
you were praying somebody would make it
yeah definitely um I’m sorry I was just
getting this on so you’re talking about
which pick the the moving back from 24
to 29 it was like you know we had a few
guys there that we were really excited
about and it’s like you know you kind of
roll the dice and see if this thing
plays out you look at the other team’s
needs and you just never know who might
want to come up to get one of those guys
I think everyone kind of knew we were in
the business for an offensive lineman
whether it was Barton or gon and I think
we just kind of rolled the dice and hey
we got one of the two guys we like and
we picked up a third then we got Cooper
BB I mean which was fortunate yeah I
think I think I was watching you after
the BB pick and you were sitting at the
table when everybody else was kind of
high-fiving each other and I felt like
you kind of had a moment to yourself oh
yeah you know and I I I don’t know who
came up behind you but he put his hands
on your shoulders and it’s just kind of
like you know it’s that feeling of okay
I pushed this one through I argued a
good one I I fought hard for
this that’s just but I felt like at that
moment it’s kind of like you it’s just
that bit of satisfaction with all that
oh no question I mean like he was the
highest rated guy I for me like he was
the best o lineman in the third round
guaranteed I mean like he was my
favorite guy the versatility the way he
plays the demeanor he’s smart he he can
play center he can play guard he’s
played demonstrated tackle he’s not an
NFL tackle but versatility it just
leaped off the tape I mean this guy’s
like you know 48 game starter sure he’s
been Big 12 offensive lineman of the
Year twice he’s a Kansas City guy I mean
which I’m yeah and like okay puny was
there from The Jayhawks and it was a
tough deal but hey I like I like Cooper
BB better than puny which we did like
puny but I got to go back to KU and I
got to tell these guys H how much you
know it’s funny we we’ve all talked just
you know looking at the offseason you
guys lose Tyler botes and one of the
things that we’ve talked about is like
that was a guy who had an edge and was
sort of an enforcer and somebody who
brought a certain attitude that that was
something that you were going to need to
replace along the offensive line how how
big of that or or big is that with
Cooper B like CU I think you see it on
tape you see that same sort of edge you
feel like okay well now we’ve replaced
that part of it I think every one of
these four picks we’ve had you could
kind of check that box you know what I
mean like cuz like Maris is the same way
he’s kind of similar to overshown the
violent play style Marsha is he’s high
motor as it gets and then with Cooper I
mean he’s the same thing it’s they set
the tone and I think like hey we we know
we need to get like we want tough guys
you know in our on our roster you know I
want to talk about that raw upside
obviously that Tyler gon has during the
evaluation process how do you factor
that in versus a guy who might have 40
plus starts but this guy has the traits
and might just need more development
does that excite you more than the guy
who’s more yeah I mean I think
especially when you start talking about
left tackle cuz I mean the guy’s feet
are unbelievable his background playing
basketball ball everyone that you talk
to just like he just keeps getting
better and better and better I think
like we’re going to get a better player
than what we saw at Oklahoma and the
kids wire I mean the kid is great I mean
he’s kind of similar to our Tyler Smith
I mean Tyler yeah Tyler Smith is like
the way he can think on his feet just
the way he has he has some personality
some Edge to him you know I think it’s
he’s going to just keep getting better
and better and he like I just think hey
the guy was a d linean tight end D
lineman he’s only played o line really
for three years so I mean it’s just
going to keep getting better yeah and I
don’t want you necessarily to compare
these two guys but going into the draft
process I think at least around the
media the high upside guy with the
traits was amarius Mims but still Tyler
G is a first round tackle on his own
right what makes him specifically so
talented in that upside Department to be
able to bank on well I the athletes to
me for Mims and gon there was a little
different athletic ability I mean I
think Mims is really Elite as a pass
protector because he’s so long but in
the Run game like he’s still kind of
learning he’s only played it he’s played
eight eight games I think and I think in
the play counts it was like three two or
300 more less snaps than gon is play to
tackle so yeah we just felt like gon’s I
think ready if you had to play tomorrow
we I felt like gon was more ready to
play tomorrow and help us that’s the
interesting thing that I was wondering
about with you guys when you’re making
an evaluation let’s say you have two
guys at a position tackle for instance
and you say our our projection out is
exactly the same for these guys that we
think they’re top tier left tackles and
ultimately going to be the same player
how does day one Readiness affect the
Great does it affect the actual grade
number for you or do you just say hey
we’re going to have the same grade cuz
we’re talking about projecting out yeah
I mean I think we put them kind of right
next to each other then we have the
conversation you know when we start
going back and forth in the war room or
even during draft meetings like hey
that’s when we start having those
conversations hey we have to put a value
on the guy during the fall during the
final grade but that’s different than
when we start building the board and
saying hey who would we rather take but
I think that’s kind of what it comes
down to yeah that makes sense from a
scouting perspective and and obviously
not wanting to tip your here but what do
you think this this department is
looking for in a running back
potentially day three or even moving on
forward juice yeah juice we need we need
somebody that can freaking make big
plays and like has legit speed that’s
what I think so there’s not a lot of
negative to look at Cooper bb or things
that he doesn’t do well but athleticism
is something that people have broughten
up however I wanted to ask you from a
SC well from a a scouting perspective I
wanted to ask you how do you quantify
athleticism to being technically sound
because there’s not a lot of wasted
movement from him and I think that makes
up for a lot of the athletic lack of
athleticism things but I just want to
ask you even with other positions how
much do you quantify the athleticism too
them just already having naturally
technically sound traits no I got you
yeah I mean for us one of the things
with Cooper B is I mean I don’t you
don’t see him on the ground absolutely
and he functions in his positions the
guy’s playing tackle at a high level and
then what he did at the combine is he
confirmed like all that stuff I mean he
blew it out of the water and then we
come to find out like the more that you
know about K State is they make these
guys wear ankle braces okay they’re
making them do that yeah they’re almost
like a two pound little deal that they
have on their ankles and so if you ever
watch those guys looks like they all
have cankles yeah and just the way they
make them but but anyway it’s a that is
tough cuz like sometimes a guy who’s so
technical does everything perfect and
then there’s a guy who raw who has
athleticism it’s it’s kind of it’s a
tough divider you know what I mean I
think the testing of the combine or the
pro day kind of helps us confirm hey
this guy has that athleticism that kind
of reminds me of Steve via from last
year where it was like he’s very
technically sound but people are like oh
he’s not super athletic so thank you so
much for that that’s good Mitch Leo
director of college scouting last
question for you Mitch it’s like you
take a first round offense of lineman
for the Cowboys you guys just we know
he’s going to end up being good that
that’s just kind of the track record
that you have what seems to be in your
eye when when you’ve been scouting these
guys even if hey they they need some
developing you know they’ve got the
trades they’re checking all the boxes
for us that we believe they’re going to
hit what like I I just think like who
the person is I mean you have to be able
to fit in this locker room you have to
be be able to love it I think the more
and more that you see our league now
there’s not a lot of Developmental time
we don’t have a lot of practice on the
OTAs we don’t even have training camp
really anymore and so it’s like you need
guys that are self-motivated guys that
want to be good and guys who are going
to make the locker room better and I
think every one of these guys that we’ve
taken has that Mitch you’re awesome man
thank you so much we enjoy getting to
talk to yeah yeah it’s going to be
interesting I mean I was like we talked
about this last year but this nil yeah
it’s affected today yeah I mean it
really has our top three rounds I think
it was the best it’s been in a long time
yeah but now it’s I think we’re going to
start seeing this college football
change kind of affect our process it’ll
be interesting to see just kind of who
who survives there for us in the fifth
and sixth and seventh yeah you fought
through Co though the to get to this
point we’re good I mean yeah we got a
great staff we got a great process and
it works you know you guys are crushing
man thank you so much for everything you
do we appreciate it there there he goes
Mitch the point we’re about to talk with
Justin Stucky next is the day of the
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all right we roll on on the doc side
Justin Stucky how you doing man it’s
been a year but it’s good to finally see
it yeah good to see it just just like
feels like it was yesterday by the way
you you you said you know Scout you
completely left off the most important
part of Justin’s bio which is Marcus
Marauder legend that that’s that’s the
most important part very true there we
are B man that is one of the best
rivalries in high school football
there’s no doubt so how how we feeling
so far about the hall I feel good good
you know I think uh think uh we we honed
in on some guys and uh I think we we
stuck true to true to the board and
we’re able to get some guys that are
going to come in and and hopefully help
us right away you guys put in a lot of
miles throughout the year is there any
specific draft story over the course of
the last year whether it be a guy that’s
picked or or whatever that kind of
stands out for you over the course of
the last 12 months um a guy that like a
guy that we’ve picked either or however
however you want to answer it man put
put me on the spot that’s what it’s all
about yeah you know I got I got the the
Midwest so you know it’s pretty bland
around there so you know I don’t I don’t
really have any guys with any too crazy
backgrounds or or anything like that so
what I’ve heard about Cooper BB’s family
is that they are all ball have you have
you had interactions with their family
and just kind of his family and kind of
how that interacts with him no no I
haven’t uh I haven’t uh interacted with
any of the family members I’ve heard you
know that they’re all about it of course
he’s got you know his brother that he
stuck around wanted to play with and
interesting last night on like my my
college group thread uh one of my buddy
said that he’s actually a member of the
same golf club uh that they are up there
so he’s like I see his parents and I see
his brother up there all the time so you
know guess they’re big golfers too well
Cooper was one of the guys that early in
the process last year we watched like
hoping okay maybe he’ll come back then
he goes back to school do you run into
that often where you’re like man I love
this kid and then oh he just decided to
go back a year and now I gotta wait on
him oh yeah especially since Co happened
you know and all those guys got that
extra year I mean uh the last couple
years all these guys we treat them like
they’re seniors and they’re about to
come out and then all of a sudden at the
at the last second you know they end up
pulling back so you know he went back
with a purpose you know from what I got
it was you know he wanted to go back and
play with his brother you know it was
real important to him he was he’s trying
to go back be one of the best offensive
lineman K States ever had tried to get
his name up on the Ring of Honor there
so he really went back with a purpose
you know he wasn’t just going back to to
kind of hang yeah Justin we uh you know
and I was going to ask you talk about
how things affect you we we were nil
money and stuff like that how’s all the
transfer stuff been for you when because
La this you know in the first round of
this past this draft had nine guys
transferred that went to other schools
and got first round grades how you know
you guys track guys throughout because
of your area how difficult is that as
you can you know you like lose guys gain
guys is that something you just we’re
going to have to deal with going uh
going out on the road all the time now
yeah I mean I think it’s just going to
be kind of come the norm um it can be a
little disheartening at times cuz you
sit here and you you spend all this time
you know investing in these guys
watching the tape getting the character
in background and then you’re like okay
well maybe they’re going back to school
it’s like all right well I got
everything for next year already
together and then no they transfer out
somewhere else and you’re like all right
was all that work for kind of you know
but I think uh the biggest issue that
we’re going to be going and we deal with
right now is you know the fact that we
get all this character and background
and then and then these guys leave and
then you know you get guys that come in
and who knows maybe they’re there just
for the semester right so you go in
there in August and they’ve been there
for you know two weeks and they don’t
know them they don’t know them at all so
I mean you what you can watch you can
get the tape and you can watch the tape
right and watching the football is is
getting the skill set and you can get
that no matter where they go but trying
to actually get to who these guys are
with all the support staff that you need
to talk to that’s really what makes it
difficult is try to really get a sense
of who these guys are I’m I’m curious
this is it since we have you here I like
to be selfish and then like ask General
scouting philosophy questions which I’ll
ask here after we get back from the
10-second break that pton just yelled in
my ear
talking with Marcus Marauder Legend
Justin Stucky one of your Cowboys top
Scouts here on 105 through the fan in
dallascowboys.com Bobby belt in the
midst of a very serious selfish question
for Justin what scouting philosophy
question or or more I guess just um to
the process I know that a lot of Scouts
say that the spring visits to Campus A
lot of times are more crucial than fall
because maybe coaches feel a little more
comfortable sharing information and and
giving you details and you can learn a
lot more there would you ever have any
pause if you feel like oh this isn’t the
same guy I heard about in the fall maybe
necessarily or things Chang does that
give you any sort of like a hesitancy or
do you say I’m I’m going to trust that
maybe there’s just been Evolution or
whatever factor is there does if there’s
a difference between spring and fall
descriptions to you does that make you
stand back and go okay let let me work a
little harder let me check on this guy a
little more yeah I mean you definitely
have to take it into consideration you
know I think that’s a a red flag that’ll
go up and be like all right right I’m
going to have to go back and kind of dig
my sources again but I think it all
depends on who you get it from too you
know um fortunately a lot of us have
have been put in these areas for a while
and so we know who we’re going in and
who we’re talking with and who we can
trust and so if it’s uh if it’s somebody
that you know you’re just kind of
hearing something about you know you
could kind of take it with a grain of
salt but you definitely have to do your
due diligence to go back and and double
check on it for sure versatility is
obviously a very important trait and
especially in today’s NFL needing to
play multiple things over the course of
a 17 Game season but like The Scouting
Department even more so recently over
the last half decade has really
emphasized on that go back to last year
looking at guys and look at the picks
yesterday I Marsh nean he’s a guy that
can stop the run stop the pass but also
Maris being able to be a three-level
defender in some ways and then Cooper BB
not only seeing that he has the ability
to move inside to Center but
understanding that there was practice
film of him at Center is that something
that you guys really seek out early in
the process is hey can this guy do
multiple things for us for sure yeah I
think versatility is a big thing and
especially since coach McCarthy has
coming too you know he’s a that has been
deep in the playoffs multiple times and
and he always hones in he’s like hey you
know when we get to week 19 week 20 he’s
like I mean these guys bodies are all
banged up by that point you know so you
don’t know who’s going to be there for
you so if you can have somebody who can
step in and you know kind of move over
and play a different role then then
that’s huge is there a positional Trend
that you’re seeing in the draft that you
find interesting I I I guess for
instance like a couple years ago you
started seeing more kind of tweeners at
the DT position is there something that
you just stuck at out to you as of late
that you you know want to
share um I mean I would say probably one
of the biggest biggest Trends is
probably more so just like you know the
the the speed rushers you know the Ed
Edge rushers off the edge you know it’s
now you can get away with a lot of
leaner leaner lighter guys and because
those are also guys that are going to
drop back in coverage I mean really all
the positions that you’re going to be uh
having to play in space you know those
are all coming into the game Big Time
11’s probably a cause of that huh oh
yeah big time well there aren’t too many
of those out there so they could but
have you found that we talk a lot about
the nil era and how that impacts things
have you found that that has changed the
type of of mentality that the players
have in the in these recent years in
terms of how they come out good or bad
have you just noticed like a difference
in personality or expectation when they
get to the NFL yeah yeah I think so um
you know a lot of these guys are are
getting stuff handed to them you know at
a very very young age and everything’s
getting going to get catered and so if
you’re not one of those top picks coming
in here it’s like what’s your mindset
gonna be like are you gonna be humbl
enough to come in here and really grind
you know and work for what you really
need to instead of just getting
something handed to you speaking of of
the grind Justin I you the scouts you
guys really the backbone in my opinion
of the entire organization the work that
you put in the The Daily Grind the
amount of time you’re on the road away
from your family and a lot of fans don’t
understand and know the work that goes
into that can you kind of shed some
light on maybe a daily life of an NFL
scout and how this time period from the
season up until the draft goes for you
yeah for sure um you know pretty much
from August all the way up until
November we have um you know that’s
that’s our busy time when we’re out on
the road and we’re pretty much out there
for 12 days straight you know counting
Counting the travel days so we’ll come
home on a on a Thursday be home Friday
Saturday and then we’re back out that
Sunday and we’re not back for another
week and a half so very limited time
with the family um and then while while
we’re out like I know for me in the
midwest my my area is a lot more spread
out so a short drive for me is like 3
hours so if you think about I’m making a
three-hour Drive every day and that’s
after putting in a full work day so it’s
like get to the school at 7 talk to
everybody that you need to watch film
watch practice you’re out of there maybe
by 3:00 or so make a long drive pick up
some food along the way and then you’re
working until midnight you know midnight
or or later and uh you could try to get
as much done as you can because the next
day you got a whole another crop of guys
that you got to look at so you’re pretty
much doing that for like four months
straight so and if you don’t stay on top
of it then I mean it can just drown you
and then you get a little break
sometimes on Saturdays you’ll hit a game
or you’re just sitting in the hotel
typing up uh getting all the reports in
that you need to so yeah Justin God
bless you and the scouts for having to
deal with Mike Zimmer I dealt with him
in my life as working here uh but the
transition you guys do a great job of
the coaches and will always talks about
this the marriage between the scouts and
the coaching staff how was the
transition been with you guys having to
learn with from Zimmer after having to
deal with Dan Quinn and some of of the
some of the traits characteristics has
it been a big transition or and I know
Mike Mike’s like hey just bring me
players I’ll coach them up how’s that
transition been for you guys yeah
transition’s been good the
communication’s been good uh I think
fortunately for us uh we haven’t had to
make too too many big changes there
because especially when DQ came in we
put an emphasis on getting bigger Longer
stronger athletic guys with versatility
so a lot of the guys that we have now
and the guys that we’re looking at going
into this draft are guys that really can
just kind of move over and fit right
into Zim’s defense so it’s been been
pretty easy from that perspective that’s
good I guess because there is so much
turnover in the NFL and you don’t know
year to year how do you weigh when
you’re evaluating some of these players
like he’s more scheme specific versus
okay the versatility he can fit in any
type of role if we do have change over
with a coach mhm yeah I think you just
watch the tape and kind of let the
player player show himself and then uh
uh you give them the value no matter
what and then when it comes to it down
at the end then you decide hey are are
they the right fit or not you know
talking about the coaching process like
M like Brian just mentioned there about
the idea of you know finding out what
they want and going and get it do you
find yourself having generally all those
answers laid out for you when you go hit
the road or do you when when you come
across a player you watch something
going like this is an interesting thing
I need to let me pick up the phone let
me call Greg Ellis and say Greg hey I
got this guy he does this how
comfortable are you with this what do
you like like is that the kind of
conversation is that an ongoing process
of figuring out what little you know
things they they are comfortable
coaching yeah I think it’s definitely an
ongoing process I mean we try to do the
best that we can there right at the
beginning you know I mean as soon as
they came in you know we had an across
the hall meeting where we got together
with both sides of the ball and the
coaches each position coach got up there
and talked hey this is what I’m looking
at specifically for the position and
then how it kind of fits within the
scheme then obviously we go to training
camp and uh as college guys were’re able
to be there watch our guys move around
uh you know for a few days see how they
fit in and so the uh the communication’s
constant and we go out there and we
grade and then once we come in I mean
it’s it’s very much of a collective of
what we do right so it’s like we come in
we get to speak on what we think the
player does the best coaches get to talk
about it and then we all come together
as a decision and put them up on the
board it’s not really like hey this is
what we think this is what they think
and then we bash it’s like no this is
what we think let’s come together when
you’re out there at training camp
watching your guy do you is it like
watching uh like your kid at a game or
something where you’re like come on not
like Chris Von watching views you know
it’s definitely like you’re sitting
there you’re like come on come on get
get let’s go yeah don’t embarrass me
that to my question different Scouts
kind of have different beliefs on this
some would like to get three four in a
draft just so they can have their guys
and also some that that are like hey if
we don’t take any of my guys that’s no
pressure for me next year do is there a
split in the room on that or does
everyone want to get their well but
before Micah when I was in the Northeast
I mean I got I got uh blacked out pretty
pretty often there the last few years it
was nobody and you know sometimes we
might pass on a guy for for whatever
reason that you were there and you’re
like oh I think he could have helped the
team but I think at the end of the day
you just really need to check your ego
at the door and you need to be unselfish
and um whatever player we can come in
and that is going to best help us move
forward that that’s what it’s all about
you know it’s not about my guy having to
get him in here it’s about getting the
right guy you know because at at the end
of the day that’s we just want to win so
Justin thank you so much for giving us
some time manj the rest of the
absolutely thank you brother thank you
all right there is Justin Stucky one of
your college Scouts here for your Dallas
Cowboys as we continue our day three
coverage on 1053 The Fan and Dallas
Cowboys
Brett Maxi coming up next to is noticing
of course we have a little drip drip
that’s going on in the studio right now
uh Brett how are you sir happy uh day of
the scouts man there’s a bit of a long
wait today how challenging is that going
to be for you as you itch and you watch
some of these other players come off the
board leading into your pick here in the
fifth round yeah what’s up everyone
doing great man man doing good um can
you repeat that please yeah it’s a long
wait today uh to wait for your next pick
unless maybe something happens you move
up how how tough is that for you
watching maybe some of your guys fly off
the board before the Cowboys next pick
um yeah it’s cool it’s chill like you
never know what happens in the draft so
we’re just Wai and see we’re all tuned
in you know and it’s not really my guys
you feel me it’s just uh players that I
scouted yeah yeah so you don’t have like
that emotional attachment or like man I
I really this is a dude that I really
kind of felt like oh we need to get him
there’s definitely some dudes who I’m
like oh he would be a really good fit
for our team but
um yeah there’s it’s it’s I try not to
get too attached if that makes sense
it’s like we get too attached here this
man got attached to pton Wilson he was
very sad yesterday he got attached to BB
and it worked out great for him so and
and it’s not even too attached it’s just
like if you meet somebody for the first
time like you don’t want to just like
tell them everything about your life
right like um you want to build a
relationship so like for us it’s just
like um you know we met a few times and
uh we’re here to Door jop well I was
about to open book this thing with you
br I mean I was just about to unfold
everything about
besties I felt like when you had Maris
that was one of your guys right that was
one of the the guys that you had worked
on yeah so you know Maris I feel like
out of the four players y’all took
yesterday that was the one maybe we had
talked about the least leading up to the
process so people listen to the show
probably don’t have as much of an
awareness of him can you just give like
a quick recap of what you like about him
as a football player yeah
um first of all like the person is
awesome um one of my favorite like
people to talk to throughout the process
through the Senior Bowl 30 visits stuff
like that um and then the way he plays
um dude plays the right way he goes 100
10% every single time um he’s a violent
player and um he loves the game it feels
like Polynesian players as well also
have that High character a vami Fogo had
very similar traits last year that’s a
big part of The Scouting process for you
guys as well I would assume dude and
that’s that’s part of their culture um I
was talking to him and he was just
telling me like um the thing about their
culture is like when they’re playing
football when they’re like really little
whatever um it’s not about like who’s
the fastest or who’s got the best hands
and stuff it’s like who hits the hardest
and that’s how you earn the respect from
their teammates and you can definitely
see it by like the way he plays it’s
awesome yeah football you know we hear a
lot about you know football IQ and
instincts and different things like that
and obviously I mean that that’s a big
thing when you’re talking about at
linebacker how much do you think those
two tend to go hand inand and maybe
specifically with Maris the idea of your
Natural Instincts versus your your
football brand like do those have to
generally be married to each other or do
you sometimes see one without the other
or how do you look at marrying those two
ideas of somebody with a high football
IQ somebody with really good instincts
uh I think they I think they kind of
play hand inand yeah um and it starts
with like playing a bunch of football I
know Maris is playing forever so like
he’s able to recognize things pretty
quickly and when he does like he makes
plays on it is football IQ more
instinctual or being in the books well
that’s interesting it’s like how do you
define instincts right right like it
like see it see it sense it Go which I
think you see a lot of with Maris like I
I think you see on tape that meis sees
it and and kind of has know I love it
that’s investigate and educate like I
said I’m going to be selfish I’m going
to ask like philosophy questions while
we’re here no but just in general the
idea of like instinctually like having a
sense of where things are are flowing
playe like is that something where where
when you talk about the IQ that that is
a natural instinctual thing or something
where you study and you put in the work
to become that a high IQ player I hear
you yeah I think part of it’s um
obviously like the reading your keys and
like doing what your coach tells you in
terms of like what to see and stuff like
that then the other part is like innate
right I feel like there’s some things
that you just can’t teach and he has
some of that for sure talking with Brett
Maxi here on 1053 The Fan in Dallas
cowboys.com speaking of Marist I mean
one of the things I think stands out
about him is like true three down player
guy can cover right so when you look at
the linebacker position how have you
seen that kind of evolve along with the
NFL offenses being way more spread open
now in a very pass dominant League yeah
yeah he’s awesome for that um and and I
even say he can play on all four downs
just saying he can um bless you if that
was
just I I can say he can play on four
downs just playing on special teams um
but yeah he’s can cover uh he’s a really
good pressure player he can do a lot of
things uh Stucky mentioned that speed
rushers are becoming a more of a trend
in the draft now um with that I do think
that you do see a little bit of a a down
tick of guys that can also play the r at
a at a pretty high clip but have some
pass rush ability does that go into
picking a guy like a marshan nean who
isn’t super toolsy when it comes to uh
the pass rush ability just yet but he
can develop that but he’s fairly Stout
against the Run already as a DN yeah um
with Marshon personally I know for me um
he has a ton of tools that you’re
alluding to and so um the first thing
that stands out to me is like the way he
plays right he plays super hard so when
you have that um I think as a rusher it
gives you an advantage because now
you’re putting pressure on the offensive
line right and so um yeah he has a lot
of tools to work with how much crossover
do you guys kind of do during the season
or even maybe late in the in the draft
process is like okay this this guy on
the west coast he’s very comparable to
this guy I have in in my region um maybe
he’s a little bit better do you guys
compare notes or do you just stay in
locked in on your region and when you’re
asked about that guy you understand what
you need to do there yeah I try not to
like talk too much about guys that I
haven’t watched but like um like our
over the top guys like Ross maybe for
example like I know he he grades a lot
of the defensive players he might
compare um some of their attributes to
some of the players that he’s watched
can you talk about what it’s like to
present a player to the group you know
and you’re sitting there and you’re the
first you’re the first one and it’s and
it’s not an easy job but you want to put
the best his your best foot forward and
your evaluation of him what is that like
with that and making sure that everybody
sees the first initial picture of that
player yeah it’s um it’s fun and it’s
and it’s a really um we’re really
fortunate to have that opportunity
because I know at a lot of places um you
just turn in your reports and then it’s
kind of like done for the rest of the
time right count me out on that
group yeah yeah um yeah so all we’re
doing we’re just presenting information
right and so it just goes throughout the
entire process of whenever we start
after the season ends the draft ends and
then all the way up until now and like
to Circle back on the other part about
like um speaking with the players and
like um the attachment part of it
um I I I don’t want to say like I’m like
I’m not attached to anything like that
but it’s it’s um we’re dealing with like
people like these are humans at the end
of the day sure so so I like I like I
try to like stay away from stuff like
that so we’re developing a relationship
and that really helps when I’m
presenting players right it’s hard for
me to talk about first of all it’s hard
for me to talk about somebody that’s not
in the same room as me you know what
saying that’s kind of just like how I
was raised whatever so like it’s really
important that we do talk to these
players um so then when I’m talking
about them actually know the person
right right right Brett thank you so
much for us some time man this is going
to be a fun day we look forward to
seeing uh who the rest of the Dallas
Cowboys are out of this NFL draft yeah
man I appreciate yall thank you thank
you so much Brett Maxi one of your
Dallas Cowboys College Scouts absolute
Beach joining us here on 1053 The Fan
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thanks buddy how you doing coach great
yourself good man thank you go all
right. com side we are still hanging out
we got of course coach salari here with
us as we hang out and uh before we get
back on the fan side but you got you
cleaned up you got yourself a couple of
studs there on the offensive line right
yeah it’s exciting so uh getting really
getting excited to get him here and get
going I do wonder you know last when we
talked with you we weren’t sure what the
plan was for Tyler Smith of course it
was your first year coming in and you
said you kind of did Envision him maybe
playing tackle then he played guard this
off season how important was it for you
depending on how the draft fell to maybe
get that tackle like Tyler gon to be
able to keep Tyler Smith at guard yeah
that was you know you know critical in
that aspect otherwise you know whatever
we were we was going to get the best
player and then uh you know have Tyler
make that adjustment you know Tyler’s so
talented you know could play either or
and he really stepped up last year at
guard and got better each game improved
each week so it’s exciting where his
career is now and such being such a
young player and his skill set wow yeah
wow when you got got coaching point you
got two tyers on the left side how do
you how do you deal with that I mean and
coaches are really coaches are creative
very and I know you’re a creative man so
how do you deal with two Tylers we’ll
make sure we’ll make sure we’ll have to
have it you know a little name or
something or last name whatever but uh
again it’s exciting it is very you know
Tyler gon is just a tremendous athlete a
lot of upsid so we’re really excited
about him you guys did a lot of homework
obviously on a ton of offensive lineman
throughout the process but you look at
these two guys that you took in the
first two days Tyler all he had was a
formal meeting with you guys and then
Cooper didn’t have a formal or a 30 how
do you kind of evaluate the the person
from your perspective whereas the scouts
see him a lot more in person but how how
are you able to evaluate okay I’m okay
with taking that character guy do you
just rely on what the scouts tell you at
that point absolutely our Scouts do a
great job I mean what a tremendous job
they do in just the history of what
they’ve done here with the offensive
line wow I mean it’s just tremendous
they do a great job and in the research
they do and and staying on target from
following their careers through their
freshman years through and uh and they
crossed all the tees you know dot all
the eyes and sense of asking everybody
whether it’s a coach whether it’s a
trainer whether it’s the equipment
whether you know whoever is they can get
some words of wisdom from and they do a
great job in their research yeah those
formal meetings they’re quick and then
obviously here are the 30 visits yall
trying to get them quick and make sure
they meet with everybody I’ve heard your
meeting specifically or fast-paced and
high energetic can you walk us through
what a let’s say a formal meeting looks
like for you and Indie yeah the formal
indie for us is again get to know them
as a football you know player and they
get to know their ability to uh
communicate so again we give um them our
offense we give them like a a segment of
an installation and we make sure it’s a
run pass we try to go quick I’ll uh and
give them a notepad where they’re taking
notes and see how quickly they can take
notes and digest what we’re saying
because the meetings go quick and again
it’s to see what they can comprehend and
then all of a sudden then we’ll come
back and we’ll ask them questions and
then we always check their notes we want
to make sure again they take good notes
and then help them you know as a young
player and we want to make sure in the
sense they understand they got to go
wherever they go they got to be able to
take great notes and then night when
they go home it’s got to be clear where
they can read it versus just writing
stuff down and scribbling and they can’t
read at night and what did I write down
here what’s this coaching point so we us
do a try to do an a very detailed where
we have a great feel where we can give
feedback in the sense of he can learn he
needs some help just so we know in sense
of you know where he’s at in learning
and comprehending and uh that’s exciting
for us as coaches to see where they’re
at coach I I know we’ve talked uh with
with different Scouts who’ve come here
already today and they’ve talked about
how they they think they got four really
tough guys in this draft so far and the
two on the offensive line guys who who
display a lot of toughness and and
physicality things like that when you
are going through this process with the
scouts and talking about things do you
look at toughness and physicality as a
something that you could coach out of
somebody or or do you look at that as
that has to be an innate trait that we
acquire it’s it’s a trait that you’re
looking for you know again you know work
ethic you know you always want a young
man that has a work ethic we think work
ethic has tie into passion Love of the
Game you know so that’s a key thing and
then Coach McCarthy’s done a great job
here you know in the locker room fitting
the profile of the Dallas Cowboys you
know in that toughness that smart
football player and so forth and uh it’s
part of the profile and it’s a
characteristic that we look for and the
scouts mark it down as well and they
give us you know feedback on that aspect
because again you the NFL is so tough
you know it’s a journey you know the
season is long and so forth so you need
that person that has a love for the game
where they’re going to you know commit
off the field like when they go home and
and take care of their bodies not only
physically you know eating properly
nutrition hydrating properly but also
studying where they take that time and
sometimes it’s tough for a young man to
say no I don’t want to go there I got to
study tonight but that’s what you’re
looking for that passion that love that
accountability in the offensive line
room you know you know like Z has done
such a tremendous job in the sense of
leadership and setting the standard in
the consistency every day of being that
player and then when you’re on the
practice field you know practice like
you play the game so critical you know
it’s not a thing where you can turn it
on Sunday and play so again that’s what
we’re looking for and it’s part of the
profile that work ethic that toughness
because toughness has a has a a trait of
a competitor competitor has a tradeit of
grit a guy is tough innate so you you
like to have that trait that quality
we’re talking with offensive line coach
Mike salari here on 1053 The Fan in
dallascowboys.com with when it comes to
Tyler giden there’s so many traits that
are positive about him the athleticism
the arm length uh but also a little bit
raw with kind of limited game experience
when you watch him what are some of the
things when you bring him in you’re
excited to be able to teach and develop
more with him well again the thing that
you like about Tyler gon is his
athleticism here’s a young man you know
a little bit over 67 yet he plays like
65 6’4 because of his knee Bend he has
tremendous flexibility very good very
good athlete the initial quickness the
foot speed and that’s what you’re
looking for in a tackle used to be in
the old days was your left tackle had to
have the blue feet but today with all
the open edges and the passing game and
so forth and so on you both tackles have
to be athletic and have great foot speed
but he has the qualities of a of a fine
left tackle in the sense of the foot
speed you know we call Blue feet he’s
got the athleticism the recoverability
and usually a young man whenever you say
he has recoverability or change of
Direction in space face he’s got great
knee Bend and he’s got that quality
which is so unique for man 67 you you
lose a little of that you know the size
you lose a little bit of flexibility you
lose a little bit of recoverability
change of direction space he’s got those
qualities it’s really exciting to work
with somebody like this about what time
of the year do does will mlay bring you
a set of guys like hey look at these cop
of guys and tell me what you like about
these certain dudes is it throughout the
year or was it kind of in the past
couple of months where it really starts
to to R up absolutely it’s the last
couple months where it ramps up and as
you well know you know after the season
the most important thing is to
reevaluate your players take the emotion
out of it now reevaluate your players
then they give you a
segment free agency and then you want to
rank them then put them in the sense of
the order how they fit in your offensive
line you know in the sense of their
ranking and then they give you the
college players so it’s kind of an
ongoing process but especially these
last two months and uh again they do a
great job you know in the sense of
giving you players just to get an
opinion and and feel what we feel as
offensive line coach or position coaches
how important will Zach Martin be over
the course of the next year helping
these two rookies come into the equation
you know tremendous you know again
Zach’s you know you know is a great
leader in the room and what he brings
his presence his uh work ethic the way
he goes about his business you know just
just watch him just watch how he goes
about his business and uh again we’re
really proud of the room itself you know
I mean they those these guys have
ascended and have picked up you know
down the road from the guys that have
left here and have left this tradition
of a standard in that room so it’s
exciting because it’s you know we want
them to feel like you know they are the
room you know what I’m saying and that’s
the key being accountable to each other
that’s that’s the strength of the of the
unit coach thank you so much for giving
us some time this has been awesome we
can’t wait to watch BB watch gon and
whoever else maybe comes along here on
day three me neither here we go it’s
going to be awesome let’s go coach thank
you so much thank you very much we
appreciate you for the time about to be
joined by of course former Dallas Cowboy
man I know Brian brus knows very very
well Cowboys defensive line coach Greg
Ellis Greg it hadn’t been so long we
just got to catch up with you here at
the Super Bowl you weren’t on the staff
just yet congratulations on the new
position my friend hey I appreciate it
guys um it’s been it’s been amazing it’s
like a huge family reunion to be honest
with you and so I’m just you know just
thrilled to be back in the building
different capacity obviously but it’s
great it’s going to be exciting I I
always forget that like you’re a former
player so you’re a really good for yeah
we know like I it just threw me off I
mean he looks like one look look at this
is man I had to just uh push the mic up
all the way I want to start with your
background a little bit before we kind
of dive into this draft if that’s all
right but being at the Nia level and
then coming to an NFL program there’s
obviously a lot of adversity a lot of
challenges that you face at sagu and at
Texas College yes how do you think that
prepares you for the NFL and certain
adversities that you might face in this
G man you know what I I I counted it was
a it was a blessing and a joy for me to
come through the rankings that way
because I truly had to earn my stripes
meaning being in the I remember being in
the basement at Texas College 2 and 3:00
in the morning by myself washing the the
uniforms all of that cutting the grass
cutting lines in the field so when
somebody comes along to say man they
just it was just given to Greg it’s like
no wait a minute I earned I earned these
Stripes you know what I mean so I went
through the process it wasn’t just cuz I
play professional football now you can
coach somewhere in the NFL um and so I I
count that as a blessing for me um cuz
it taught me you know coming up through
the rankings of coaching rankings if you
would the hard work that it takes to run
a program and then niia not having
scholarships those kids love football I
mean there is there is a strong love for
football and I think that kind of
marries itself with the staff does that
kind of help you become closer to
players in general do you feel like that
helped as your as your time went on and
it it does you know what man is I’m
sitting in my office literally five
minutes ago um I got to text a couple
days ago and I finally got a chance to
respond to one of the kids who was at
Texas college and so you develop
relationships with those kids those kids
like you say they don’t get a lot to
play football uh they love football and
so it was good to be around um a a good
bunch of young people like that that was
my selfish moment y’all got it all gooda
what you got no um uh I think I saw
yesterday that you feel like you saw
some of uh some of yourself and Marshon
nean can you talk about that I would
like to hear you know what’s your
perspective you and I if I would have
thought about I would have told Jerry
and him yesterday we sent a I guess it
was right before the draft my agent sent
one play in to the Cowboys and it was a
play we was playing against TCU or SMU I
don’t remember which one um they I’m
rushing the quarterback and they throw a
little flare pass out to the flats and I
spin out hustle to the ball and make the
tackle Neely reminds me of that kind of
Greg Ellis that guy that hustles hustles
hustles you see him running down the
field you don’t see him taking plays off
and I’ll be honest with you nowadays
that’s kind of hard to find to be honest
with you yeah I haven’t seen and we
looked at a whole bunch of film yeah but
I haven’t seen another guy that plays as
hard as him I I prom even if we didn’t
draft him I would say the same thing I
haven’t seen another guy defensive guy
defensive line guy that plays as hard as
this as marshan does he’s hustle hustle
hustles um after we draft him I went
back and start watching more film be
honest with you um but not just him
being able to hustle that’s that’s a
trait that’s good it’s good trait to
have but he has some things in his pass
rushing ability as well that I see that
okay we can tweak this and kind of help
him get to that next level so I’m I told
people last night I said you know I’m so
excited I feel like I got drafted all
over again set minus the money sure but
it it was it was I was I didn’t think
I’d be that excited to be honest with
with you but to be able to draft a young
man like that that brings it to work
every day it it’s it’s very exciting to
me yeah you forced us in Philadelphia to
take try Thomas when you went right
ahead of us we realized we couldn’t
block you out of coming out of North
Carolina so a lot of people had to draft
tackles yeah because of you uh when you
talk about okay just as general Greg you
know we’ve had a chance of Vis we you
big on technique you know you’re big on
that is that the coaching style when
you’re looking at your players you
currently have when you’re working with
your guys on the field is the thing
about you’re always trying to stress is
the technique or is there some other
coaching point that you say hey I’ve got
to get this through to my guys technique
to me um well for one the desire to to
be good they got to have that you know
what I mean and I stress the importance
to those guys whoever I’m coaching hey
man you you got to that’s a starting
point I can’t put that in you and so you
got to have that but secondly for me
it’s the technique it’s it’s technique
and I want them to understand that
importance of technique now you can’t
get out there and just go slow cuz
you’re thinking about technique all the
time but it has to be has to be worked
on so much in practice and I tell the
guys man when you’re walking around you
got to be thinking about pass rushing it
it has to become part of your DNA so
when you get in the football game the
technique that I’m teaching you guys
it’s it’s it it’s it’s not just second
nature it’s first nature it’s what you
do first versus thinking about and doing
it second you understand so yes the
technique is what I’m all about when you
look at Mazy Smith though and then I
know and here you’re new to the new to
the team this way but you you know who
Mazy Smith and you’re working with Mazy
where do you start where do you start
with a guy that that’s so much
expectations and you know and you’re
trying to get to know the kid and build
him up and help him where do you start
with that’s the thing first for me you
know I had to get to know him he I
hadn’t been around him yet he’s hadn’t
been at the voluntary stuff so once you
know to me you have to get to know where
is he coming from what is his why to why
he plays football right and that
determines a whole lot of how you
approach a kid in my opinion and once we
figure that out I think I think he’ll be
fine I mean here’s one thing Bri they
wouldn’t have drafted him right if he
didn’t have something in him that could
get the job done now we got to push that
button to help him see okay here’s what
it takes for his engine to really get
started and get to going and I don’t
foresee that being a problem talking
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Greg one other thing I I did want to ask
you about was you know when it comes to
Maron neand he he’s doing a lot of
different things from they’re moving him
around there at Western Michigan like I
know you had to do hand in the ground
and then you also when bill parcel’s
came you had to go stand up he’s already
kind of got that where he’s got hand in
the ground stand up move around maybe go
over the center how much of an advantage
is that already for him it’s it’s it’s
huge in my opinion I don’t see Zim
having him stand up right I mean Zim is
not going to switch to a three4 defense
no unless parcel tells exactly right um
which he can do yeah and but so we
already have those kind of guys like
like Micah and those guys Sam those guys
can stand up and do the you know the
quick kind of stuff um but the fact that
he can do it in my opinion speaks
volumes to what he can develop into as a
pass rusher with his hand in the dirt
cuz if you can stand up and kind of
dance with one two with some guys you
know you really can really come off the
ball to one to with some guys in my
opinion last question for you here coach
when when you look at the when you’ve
watched these guys coming out of college
and you’ve studied some of these players
what is the the technique trait that you
look at and say uh guys coming out right
now this is an area that’s really
deficient that’s common and that whether
it be hand usage or pad level or
whatever else what are you looking at
saying this is something that’s
generally going to need to be repaired
by rookies hands hands now with with
with neing he he does a lot with his
hands but it needs to be fine-tuned
right you know hands are kind of all
over the place be honest with and I I
appreciate that cuz that tells me okay
he understands I need to use these
things right to pass rush and so I think
we’ll be able to help him really quick
thank you coach coach thank you so much
we really appreciate it man
congratulations on marshan N see if he
get you some more help today there you
go thank you guys yall Take Care thank
you there he goes Greg Ellis one of your
newest Cowboys position coaches an
absolute badass here with you on
dallascowboys.com and 1053 The Fan Scott
McCurley your linebacker coach about to
join us here as uh this is this has been
a lot of fun as we getting to break down
all of these new players of course uh
coach getting his mic on right now how
you doing I’m doing great how are you
guys this morning we’re fantastic ready
for day three we’re ready for day three
but how about uh getting yourself a new
Notre Dame linebacker in Maris last
night how excited are you for him yeah
we love it it was um great job the whole
process by everybody scouting Department
um Paul Gunther our run coordinator was
uh one of the first ones to put his eyes
on him too and um got out to his pro day
we were lucky enough to get um him in
here for a 30 visit and the 30 visit was
just was great he’s a uh I mean first
thing he’s a great kid great human
really smart football player we got a
chance to to sit down with them put them
on the board do those things with them
really smart and um when you see that
kind of tape coming from uh that kind of
player when you get to know him um you
get really excited about it so we really
excited about the pick yeah a lot of
safety uh a Rover hybrid type background
from his days in high school in Honolulu
and he gets to Notre Dame and he has
this blitzing specialty that that can
kind of work on third down is that
something you guys identified and that’s
kind of what makes Maris really fun as a
second level player no question I I
think the value he can add to us um in
the base packages being a Sam who can
Blitz um he can win versus own lineman
um he definitely is a good matchup
against backs um third third down he can
add some value as a Blitzer too so when
when he’s going forward he he he
definitely comes alive on the tape yeah
we we haven’t had an opportunity to talk
a whole lot about Eric Kendricks and
what he can provide to that room and uh
what do you think he can do as far as
helping these young guys that are in
that room Deone clar Marvin overon now
Marist but also be able to help
contribute on the field himself uh it’s
been huge having him I I mean the loss
of of Leighton last year um that that
that’s just something that is a leader
and being someone in the room is is it’s
tough um because he he was that guy for
us last year and um now that he’s moved
on I mean Eric comes into the room and
and that’s the role he’s going to take
for one I mean he’s got great
familiarity with Zim scheme which is
huge um to to bring him into the room um
just to be able to communicate with him
as a coach um in in his ability to
communicate with the players get
everything set um it’s been great the
the first couple weeks with him have
really been awesome having him in the
room I had a bit of a two-parter so you
mentioned uh Maurice as Sam and what you
think you’re able he’s able to do there
with the communication in the IQ though
do you see him being able to be in a mic
role at any point in time I I think the
the potential is there based on you know
how smart of a player he is you know um
I I think the potential down the road is
a Green Dot type guy yeah you could
definitely see that you know but um um
right now we we want to put him in
positions he can succeed with early and
then really um we we’ll see where he
grows to cuz he’s still got a ceiling um
that that that we think he can grow into
be a good every down football player
yeah second part is uh you have
Kendrick’s uh obviously one sec we’re
going to come back on the fan side and
then I want you to ask that question
yeah just to make sure we can reset top
of the hour appreciate you
coach day three of the NFL draft we’re
about to get round four underway here
but it is always a treat as we get to
talk with a variety of Cowboys coaches
and Scouts right now linebackers coach
Scott McCurley with us here on 1053 the
fan of dallascowboys.com Zack walchuk
Nick Harris Brian brus Aisha Morrison
Bobby belt and of course coach Aisha uh
you were ready two parter here you ready
to fire one away for Coach McCurley yeah
um within this linebacker room you have
Kendricks that is here now you have
Maurice um de Maran noon who’s returning
back from injury and all his length and
his explosiveness um and then Deone
Clark as well like is you guys have a
lot of Versatility are you guys excited
about some of the different things
you’re going to be able to do with this
core uh definitely I I think um getting
demo back is is huge I mean that that
was that was heartbreaking too last year
in the preseason that that was that was
a tough one to take um but getting toone
all the Reps he did last year for him to
be able to slide over from will dime uh
Leighton goes down he takes over the mic
um we feel really comfortable about him
playing really any position back there
um even the Sam now moving forward and
things so um Eric obviously bringing him
into the room and and Maris so it’s it’s
going to be and we hope to add today you
know and and that we we still need some
numbers in the room just overall so by
the time training camp comes around we
we really hope to have a competitive
group um going into going into the fall
what what trait did you identify coming
into the draft or coming to the
offseason that you said I really want to
get more of this in the linebacker room
you know I think for us we just wanted
good depth linebacker player we we we
need more uh uh um uh bodies in the room
quite frankly and good football players
and and and that’s my thing right there
we’ll figure out a way to use them we we
have a good vision of Maris right now
what he can be okay with his his ability
to Blitz and do th all those things but
um we want good football players in the
room that are going to create
competition now you can say the things
about the Run game and getting bigger
and all that stuff and we’ll do a better
job you know in in all those areas but
at the same time um we want good
football players in the room that are
going to up the competition and um and
give us the most bodies come come next
Fall coach what was the challenge last
year for you because you did a hell of a
job of dealing with like a lot of dime
stuff with playing with undersides you
know you’re playing with safeties as
linebackers and you’re trying to mask
that as best as you can I I can tense
when you just answered that question
more bodies in the room is that
something that like okay I I did what I
we did what we had to do but I I see us
going a different direction of not and
nothing against Dan and them yes played
hell of a defense but is there like yeah
we need more bodies here yeah obviously
we got short with with the injuries with
losing Dev during the season you know
there was some things didn’t go our way
and and we ended up short I I’ll say
this let me for for Maris Bell though I
shout out to him um I mean what he did
for us last year was was outstanding
absolutely cuz I mean he he he came in
and gave a great effort you know and I’d
still have him in the room any day I was
Wonder are you going to fight go that
way but but I’m a Maris Bell guy for
life now for for what he he helped us do
so you know that we’re going to get more
linebackers in the room and we’re going
to let him go play safety and do what he
does you know but at the same time just
just uh my
appreciation what he did um was was
through the roof really quick cuz I know
you got to get out of here what kind of
insight can you provide us about how
Demar Vian overon has developed off the
field do you think he’s kind of taking a
veteran mentality to his quote unquote
rookie season well I’ll say this the way
he’s attacked you know his his rehab um
extremely impressive I mean he he’s he’s
ready to go he’s itching to get back out
there if he could go out and take all
the the OTA reps right now he’d do it
and and he I mean Brit’s done a great
job with him and I think he’s ready to
go so it’s going to be real exciting for
him come come training camp cowbo
linebackers coach Scott McCurley with us
coach thank you so much thanks guys hey
and congratulations it’s going to be fun
y thank thank you there he goes coach
Scott McCurley as we have round four
underway about to visit with Chris vaugh
of course gave us one of our highlight
moments of last year’s draft uh and and
Chris we were actually getting to talk
with you this time last year and we
didn’t know for sure that the deuce Bon
pick who is of course your son would be
made we were kind of hoping we all did
love deuce and and getting to watch his
tape then it happened and it was it was
I mean it was a more special moment for
you I can imagine you’ve gotten to talk
about that but for us our room lit up I
mean it it was incredible it it it was
it was pretty emotional it’s pretty cool
uh you know it’s amazing we talk we we
talk every day but it’s it about
football but now it just happens to be
about the Dallas Cowboys you know and so
it’s it’s it’s still pretty uh special
to have him here with us well from K
State here’s Cooper BB now and you know
super BB uh everyone in this room knows
my man crush of this draft I absolutely
love we got to talk with him last night
and I asked him about his relationship
with Duce he said they were very very
close so how excited are you now to
bring Cooper BB into the fold here well
it’s funny because you know we’re we’re
having our discussions and we’re you
know we’re talking about guys that are
there at that pick and and uh you know
I’m trying to be as professional as
possible you know because I’m I’m I’m a
big you know Cooper BB fan uh I’ve seen
him play live a bunch been to uh I’ve
probably seen him play more than anybody
on our on our staff so uh but just
trying to be professional and try to
keep it you know so but when I knew we
were going to pick him you know I ran
out of the room and and I text my wife
like you know it’s coming you know we
got him and and and and my wife and dece
are really really excited awesome I want
to touch on the family aspect because a
scout the life of a scout is not easy
you’re on the road so much how important
is that core unit for you guys from a
personal standpoint very very important
uh you know a lot like and are you
speaking about family yeah cuz we saw a
glimpse of that last year we with the
emotion and everything and you texting
your wife about one of your son’s former
teammates so I mean how important is
that core unit for well well first of
all let me say uh coaches wives wives of
of
Scouts um they deserve many many crowns
once they once they uh make it to Heaven
because I mean they they they hold
family together while you’re on the road
they are at at a lot of places they are
the they’re the GM of the home while
we’re out doing what we love to do and
uh and they’re they’re the backbone uh
back backbone and support
uh that you know help coaches Personnel
men be successful and uh I’ve got one at
my house she she’s the
boss you know what she says goes and uh
and um you know I’m pretty I’m pretty
sure that you know other guys on our
staff are very fortunate to have their
significant others also wow you know I
I’m curious just a general philosophy
question uh you know Brian has talked
before about one of the things he likes
seeing from a cornerback on tape like
like that flashes for him is when
somebody takes some like takes a
receiver on the other side corner takes
a receiver and if it’s a drag right
across the field they’re able to stay in
the hit pocket all the way is there a
play that you see on tape at a specific
position where you’re like oo that that
always stands out to me like when I see
that that makes me like you know get
excited about what the player can be
well you know as a the thing I I think’s
a lot different than when I was a
college coach and recruiting uh High
School running backs um the big
transition from from high school to
college and college to Pros now is the
dirty NFL run MH everybody gets excited
about the long 70 80 yard runs and you
know we would get enamored with that you
know here’s a guy you know he can he can
you know uh beat angles and this guy
gets in the secondary and he’s gone uh
but but that doesn’t happen very often
it’s it’s the it’s the seven yard run
it’s the six-yard run it’s the run that
moves the the chain so I think
position-wise is seeing some of those
runs in their game and that has you know
we love to see the guys that can break
the long ones but seeing those parts of
it in their game is Big because they’re
going to have lot more of those
opportunities and situations than the
than the 70 80 yard run so you know just
by position that’s one that’s been a
little bit different you know and just
trying to have a a a um a respect and
you know for for that as opposed to just
a 70 80 yard run yeah seeing a lot of
changes with the running back position
and just how the committee and things
like that is are kind of starting to
take over how guys run the ball our
teams run the ball what would you tell a
young running back that you know is in
college or going into college college
right now to prepare for when they come
into the NFL because you you might be
like the lead guy on your college team
but when you’re coming to the NFL Now
teams are kind of uh prioritizing
longevity yep you know within their
their room so what would you tell a
young guy diversify your portfolio talk
about it talk about it it’s a great way
to put it be a receiver too yeah yeah I
I and special teams is huge because once
you go to by committee then you’re
probably sharing the Special Teams roles
too
uh so I think that’s very important that
that college running backs embrace the
Special Teams aspect now the the the the
quandry that they’re in is that if
you’re a really good running back you
play less special teams by the time we
start evaluating you so I would say to
Young running backs get on teams early
because as you become a better player
you play less special teams and there’s
less opportunities for us to evaluate
you and in that role wow so uh you know
I know scouting Alabama as long as I did
that was a big thing for Nick SA I mean
guys like I can remember watching Damen
Harris go block punts yeah you know so I
mean that was kind of their as young
backs that was their way to get on the
field because they would have a stable
of backs and they’re waiting for their
turn but you would see those guys on
special teams and that would that you
know that would stick in our our minds
and and and also say here’s a guy that’s
coming you know because we saw those
guys as young guys so for for young
running backs out there get on special
teams go fight to get on special teams
because as you become a a uh bigger part
of the offense the less special teams
you play and and that’s that’s less
opportunity for us to evaluate you
everybody has to commend you for the job
you did last year and being able to stay
professional about the deuce evaluation
and and what all went into it and then
not even really showing emotion until
the pick was made now Circle back a year
later still needing to add a running
back to that room how does that kind of
manifest now knowing that your son is in
the running back room but also you need
to be able to provide some presence to
be able to help that room too well you
know one thing that that I’ve always
told D and we we had this conversation
last year this time like hey whoever
whoever picks you after that they’re
trying to find somebody to replace you
and he understands that this is football
uh and so we’re trying to do what’s best
for uh the Dallas Cowboys and finding
what’s best for our roster um and and
now again I’m a dad hopefully he’s he
fits into that into that uh into that
equation but we also have to to uh to
you know team first and those things so
uh it’s a little bit of a balance act
you know you try to again try to keep
your emotions out of it and try to stay
as professional as possible and and um
and and and go on the facts you know so
um there’s some guys there’s still some
good players out there and and I’m
pretty sure we’ll be looking and uh and
having some conversation about some guys
but you know the the the the more
competition you have the the the cream
Rises to the to the top but you’ve got
to continue to build competition at
every position you know if you want to
push up from the bottom and be really
good so I definitely understand that
part of process talking with Chris Von
here on 1053 the fan of
dallascowboys.com yeah what type of back
do you think this this room needs right
now well you know that’s a playmaker I
you know it’s hard to say um we need
this guy at this size or this speed we
need a playmaker um and uh to add to the
room I shouldn’t say that as if we don’t
have Playmakers but to add to uh our
room um and those those guys come in
different shapes and sizes and and and
as you look at the draft and who’s left
you know those guys are kind of in
different shape and size so I think
we’ll have conversations about you know
key pieces and how they fit into the
into what we already have and and how
that’ll impact our team so I don’t I
don’t think there’s a specific guy or
specific role we’re looking for it’s
kind of you know it’s a lot of moving
pieces and and again now running backs
running back by committee they come in
different size shapes uh skill sets you
know some guys are stronger in this some
guys are are stronger in this aspect so
you know it’ll it’ll be a holistic look
at it and what that guy brings to the
room well you know it’s often said that
offensive line is one of the thinnest
positions across the league like like to
find NFL offensive lineman is really
difficult when you go through the
evaluation process and and maybe you saw
one of these things in Tyler gon what do
you guys look at or for you specifically
do you look at and say th this is the
rarest trait outside of size or
athletism what is the rarest you know
trait at the offensive line position
that when you see it at the college
level you go man that that’s so rare we
got to acquire that if we can well the
athleticism so you’ve got you’ve got
athleticism and size you know
athleticism size and length that’s a lot
to work with and and and those are the
things that that that Tyler definitely
has he’s athletic he’s tall he’s long um
and he’s young that’s the other thing
young at the position so there’s a
there’s a belief in the upside that you
know there’s a big jump once he gets
from college to here because he is a
young player I think he’s only played
offens line for three years went to TCU
as a defensive lineman it’s funny give
you a quick uh draft story so we’re
sitting in the draft room and a former
coach at TCU that I know recruited Tyler
to TCU well about an hour before we made
the pick he sends me some video
uh of Tyler from high school yeah you
know doing some drills and things like
that so after we drafted him I said I
said man you must be a a fortune teller
Savon or something this is crazy I mean
you know and uh you know so it’s pretty
cool I mean for to to see the
athleticism you know and making that
position change I mean we’re really
excited about his upside and what he’s
going to be here in you know in a short
time is that why maybe it feels like
teams because that trade is so rare is
that why teams maybe feel like they’re
more willing to bank on a raw offensive
lineman than raw players at other
positions yes because they’re they’re
they’re hard to come by you know um you
know guys with with with you know again
size length and athleticism they don’t
they don’t grow in trees so um when you
see a guy that’s got those traits um
you’re guys like that don’t come every
draft you know you get a skilled guy you
know they’re going to be skilled guys in
next year’s draft there’s going to be
you know so I mean you start there’s
just a smaller number of those big
bodies that can do those things so you
kind of say you know what let’s get them
and let’s develop them because there’s
just not enough of them and you can’t go
get them out on the street that’s the
other thing you know they’re just not
you know they’re they are they’re are
commodity and so if you can find them
bring them in work with them and develop
them and those guys usually have
probably the most upside you look at
guys when they come into the league into
the where they are year two or three you
know there’s usually an investment early
to develop a guy and he becomes you know
what you’re looking for Chris I I know
you got to get back last for you I think
it’s always fun to kind of get the War
Room perspective when when you’re in a
situation where you’re on the clock at
24 there’s players that you like but
also okay now we need to go back and and
possibly trade back acquire some extra
picks what are some of those
conversations like and if you’ve got as
a scout a player like I’m ready to stand
on the table for we can’t move out of
this pick uh how heated can that war
room get well it it it’s it’s it you
definitely get into a lot of
conversations the one thing that we
benefit from more than Maybe anybody in
the league is the experiences that
Stephen and Jerry have I mean just have
been there done that seen it and they’ve
got great instincts for you know let’s
hold here let’s take it there and it’s
amazing to watch and see uh as they
start having discussions and how it goes
and so we’re in a we’re we’re in a in a
really good spot when it comes to that
as far as making draft strategy
decisions because you know they’ve been
there the only way you get experience is
by getting experience and they’ve been
there and you can see that in those type
of situations you’re the best thank you
so much you been a blast man enjoy the
rest of the draft looking forward to it
thank you Chris vaugh with us here on
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well that was fun we just had a little
Marathon there with some Scouts and
coaches getting some really really good
Insight of course Zack walchuk Bobby
belt haris Roxy though for doing Roxy’s
the best Roxy you talk about we get
spoiled Roxy makes this building run we
we get spoiled but I me it’s just one
after another she uh I mean and Shout to
beam for for navigating that as well but
yes thank you so much Roxy of course
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that was at 1118 Beamer 1118
was the time in which we’ went ahead and
got that read in but we got some picks
off the board first one the Carolina
Panthers I do feel as though Carolina
and it doesn’t matter who the coach is
who the owner even is who the general
manager is Texas players kind of find
their way to the Carolina Panthers they
went ahead and took Jonathan Brooks
earlier and the first pick of day three
pick 101 which I believe is tremendous
value Denton Ryan Zone I got to cover
this guy in High School there is Orion
Raider playing defensive ended wide
receiver said I want to stay on the
offensive side of the football going to
Texas it’s to Tavian Sanders uh and man
what a good pick here at pick 101 yeah
this is one of the most fun players I
got to evaluate over my time in covering
recruiting and specifically was on the
Texas long horns recruiting beat at the
time so spent a lot of time around
tavien and just kind of understanding
the player whenever he was going into
college yes he was a quote unquote
athlete recruit with potential on both
sides of the ball but we kind of
expected him to be an edge pressure
because of uh the bend that he had and
kind of the explosion that he had the
power that he had off the edge but he
banked on himself whenever he went to
Texas and and stayed on the offensive
side of the ball and played tight end
under Steve sarkeesian’s offense and I
got to talk to him about it during the
pre-draft process asking you know what
what into that decision he said
sarkeesian system was a big part of that
and he knew that he was going to be
developed the right way for the NFL and
you saw that manifest over the course of
the last couple of seasons for the
Longhorns yes he might not be the mo
most athletic tight end yes he might not
be the SM this pass rusher but I’ll put
his hands up against anybody in this
draft class and that goes with receivers
as well really strong hands he’s a Red
Zone demon I feel like he’s going to be
a really big time threat for Bryce young
in that red zone uh in those Red Zone
opportunities uh this is a fun value
pick for for the Carolina Panthers and
yeah as you said Zack didn’t Ryan’s own
ARA is heading to to the uh to the
Panthers yeah I love jatavian Sanders I
mean I brought up on the draft show
clearly uh it was a terrible point but I
wanted to just for Fun’s sake hey how
close could Brock Bower and maybe the
number two tight end for me jaavan
Sanders actually be clearly and I think
some of the things that knocked jaavan
was the workouts and I think there’s a
question mark of being able to separate
at the next level but to me I mean and
and I’m biased I love the kid right I’ve
gotten to to be around him since he was
16 years old at Ryan but I I think that
he has been able to excel at every level
I expected him to play end as well I I I
thought all right I get it you want to
be able to catch touchdowns people like
that but eventually I figured he would
transition no he got better every single
year as a reliable tight end but also as
a blocker I think is what sets him apart
to me I think that’s a really good pick
for the Carolina Panthers there uh
getting some help this is what happens
this is what happens when you get to
sleep on your board you know you get to
sleep the next day I mean you sleep
overnight and the board has now been
picked pretty clean but you got some
players that are just the tags are just
right there and you’re like okay this is
the guy we have to go I’m surprised
Denver got back in you know they they
they they swapped with Seattle and were
able to pick up Troy Franklin the wide
receiver from Oregon I think there’s
some people that are surprised that he
has lasted this long but uh you know
he’s he’s a guy that uh we all kind of
liked a little bit and then you know but
uh it’s sleeping on your board names are
there you’re gonna you’re GNA just GNA
grab him as soon as you can question for
you out of the break
all right round four we got picks flying
off the board right now jatavian Sanders
wide or tight end out of the University
of Texas former Den Ryan Raider goes at
the first pick of the fourth round to
the Carolina Panthers followed by Troy
Franklin the Oregon receiver he gets to
link back up with his college
quarterback bone Nicks with the Denver
Broncos that’s a pretty fun fit right
there Laden Robinson the offensive guard
out of Texas A&M I like him a little bit
going to the Patriots at pick 103 and
then
drion Taylor demerson a speedy but maybe
under size safety but the speed is there
that guy has sideline to sideline range
at of Texas Tech he is going to the
Arizona Cardinals uh we will break down
more of these picks coming up in just a
second Chargers about to make their
selection to pick 105 but Nick I know
you had a question you wanted to bring
up to Brian yeah Brian was talking about
before the end of the break is the the
luxury of being able to sleep on your
board the night before I I don’t know if
you’ve ever been in that situation but
is that a a spot where you probably have
your pick before you leave the War Room
that night or is it hey everybody sleep
on it and come to come come in the
morning a little early and let’s talk
about it yeah you you walk out of that
room and you have an idea because you
take a glance back at your board and
then you you’re in a situation where
you’re like okay there there are the
tags there there’s there’s the guys that
we’re going to have to deal with uh
tomorrow and so you have an idea maybe
you come in maybe you go back and check
if if you have a guys have a couple
different tags you look at your stack
and see where that’s at but yeah it’s
it’s a it’s a great it’s a great feeling
to know walking out of there if you’re
especially the top of this draft knowing
that okay when we start this day
tomorrow that’s our guy there’s a lot of
teams like I say there’s teams that are
trying to uh give the Denver Broncos
credit they they saw Franklin the wide
receiver they saw an opportunity to add
a guy here uh paid Seattle for the pick
paid Seattle for the opportunity to come
up and get the pick so sometimes you
have to be a little aggressive uh going
there and getting the guy you really
want I had asked somebody uh last night
just hey who are the guys that you think
will come off the board early as like
who are the guys that you’re kind of
surprised are still there and I got a
list of various names and two of the top
ones that heard back were jaavan Sanders
and Troy Franklin and they go back to
back and so some of the others that
we’re supposed to see I think early
today Spencer Rattler um Jared Wy Theo
Johnson from two lane I thought just
don’t overthink it yeah just don’t
overthink it Javon Foster that’s another
that could go earlier today
yeah I’m also wondering uh where Javon
Baker could end up going the wide
receiver from UCF that could be
interesting and then of course Malik
Washington who’s an intriguing wide
receiver from Virginia there’s still a
lot of good tight ends on the board
Brandon dorles the defensive tackle from
or RBS yeah and all the running backs
mean Jaylen Wright Tennessee Ray Davis
Kentucky Bucky Irving Oregon andri ese
Notre Dame you did we did have Mitchell
Point say they wanted juice so I I do
not believe ese would
that’s exactly what I was just about to
bring up is that when when Mitchell
Point says hey we need speed we need
home run hitter we need juice I think
that we can start narrowing down some of
these running backs that we’ve been
talking about after hearing Mitch talk
about it oh and also hearing Scott say
that they feel like you know they’re
going to try to get another linebacker
you know some more linebackers today and
then the way and I’m glad that you
pointed out how he said like we need
more bodies and you you could feel the
emphasis from that because that’s
honestly dude like even down to the
practice squad respectively like they
still need guys there um um to to give
these guys in practice competition that
scout team stuff matters during the week
especially so yeah I’m excited to see if
they pick up another linebacker and do
some things like that but like Bobby you
said we can narrow down these running
backs who are you looking at um you know
it’s funny when I mean if we’re talking
about like size speed freakish
athleticism combo that makes me wonder
gendo that’s what I’m I allow it I allow
it I’d be on gindo I would think I I
think they I think they really liked
what they saw as well when he was here
for Shrine I I think that he was
somebody that impressed them but you
know what’s funny if you look it
athletically Brian do you know whose
profile pretty damn close gendo matches
up
with Darius Jackson you remember who
when they took him out of Eastern
Michigan the physical profile is almost
the same player what year and and uh
what was that 16 was that the D draft I
think it and that was a guy that that
was a guy that was you know kind of kept
around the league for a while because of
that so I think when you look at the
profile and I think the tape is better
for gendo than it was for uh you know
Darius Jackson but that’s clearly a
profile that they’ve been intrigued by
before he was of his time still having
that Wisconsin pedigree too even though
he did finish up at at Louisville Isaac
gindo but I’m going to continue to stand
on the table for Isaiah Davis and get
that get that Jack Rabbit back in first
go well I I’m not against uh Tracy from
Purdue yeah very I mean juice that’s the
definition right there Tyron Tracy Jr
converted wide receiver but they’ve
never taken a running back on day three
who’s a converted wide receiver have
they oh no Tony Pard sorry yeah that’s
right I thought you were doing this got
bits and jokes bits and jokes this this
is day three you are in for it
today this is not 538 late in the day
this is 1127 no but it is but it is hour
13 Brian still I think you can all move
aside the most a letic most juice we’ve
got left uh there’s a kid out of
Tennessee that nobody needs to take he’s
got all kinds of warts injury issues
he’s a character concern you don’t want
him in your locker room nobody take him
nobody take him uh he need to stand up
with a star on his helmet at the end of
the day here coming up hopefully very
very soon okay pick are flying off the
board the Troy Franklin selection I
think is a home run for the Broncos all
of a sudden now maybe B Knicks ends up
being a good quarterback one read guy
one read look over there’s my guy Troy
Franklin you want a fight or something
well the thing about I think the body
type this the slight build think that’s
that maybe turned some people off I know
V Lombardi and I were doing some stuff
and we were kind of like hey what are
you seeing with Franklin I know there’s
a lot of people I people on Twitter the
morning this morning were all ask me
Franklin I had in second round second
round second round he seemed like a very
highly graded guy that people thought a
lot more of him uh than maybe what the
league has thought right now in the
fourth round you know probably a good
spot that’s exactly where I had him on
the board man okay so uh Cedric gray
goes Cedric gray just going off the
board the Tennessee Titans at 106 that’s
a good Pi it just feels very Titan and I
loved Cedric Ray I mean I out of the
linebackers that I was watching early
because you figured the Cowboys were
going to be hunting linebackers in this
draft he came out as a junior I mean I
just think CED G finds the football I
think he moves really well covers ground
in a hurry I think he’s got a knack for
getting his hands up and knocking the
ball down to disrupt passing plays he’s
just a playmaker the ball seems turn too
he creates turnovers absolutely I mean I
think he plays with tremendous instincts
and awareness long arms rangy player I
think he’s intelligent I really loved
Cedric Ray I thought he was one of the
best running linebackers for me in the
entire draft that’s tremendous value in
my opinion you look at what uh they’re
doing there with Tennessee they got t-
sweat earlier now you had Cedric gray at
linebacker now Nick help me with this
pronunciation the defensive tackle from
Alabama that went right ahead to the
Chargers Justin uh ebo igby is my is is
is my U interpretation uh kind of
similar to igog if you remember from
last year a little bit I’m so depressed
I never got to hear the AT&T Stadium
Press Box announcer try to say his name
oh yeah you know what’s funny we we go
to Miami right and Christmas Eve and he
he was traded from Miami and the Miami
PA guy just butchers it I was like it’s
not like he was a first round pick here
when he scored the touchdown here in it
over the Giants PA was probably a
highlight of the Season that was that
was terrible you want to know about did
you did you want to talk about him talk
about him let me know about him I mean
you did the work talk about
him dang it I should don’t ask question
she hard look you just say um no uh
obviously he’s uh he’s he’s versatile
you can see him uh they play him at Edge
sometimes and let him do some things on
the outside but he plays with very
active strong hands he has pretty steady
balance um I like some of the movement
for him I think he understands the
leverage game just enough I think he can
improve there a little bit um I I do
think that he uh can be a little late
when he’s defending the Run um but he
can get penetration with power so you’re
just it’s you know it would DT a lot of
its timing and things like that like
knowing when to uh when to shed and
Tackle so but the the he has good
initial contact strength and um I think
you’re just looking for maybe if you
decide you want him to have a little bit
more of a pass rush toolbox and some
things he can do the change of Direction
isn’t super super high level but again
if you’re just trying to bring a guy in
there to put a dent in that offensive
line and to uh play with some power and
some quickness off the line yeah this is
a guy this is a guy you know how Alabama
DTS are yeah no question okay Theo
Johnson these tight ends are starting to
come I about say that tight end run is
coming around later but I think you’re
starting to see the the blinking lights
we all saw coming into today that were
on the boards they’re coming off now
yeah Theo Johnson the highest rated uh
recruit out of the country of Canada
since Neville gallamore all the way back
2015 so yeah High Praise coming out of
coming out of the maple leaf area but um
yeah I I think you got Jared Wy still on
the board tan m Lin who someone I was
really high on I think he’s a speed
receiving threat that can really uh make
an offensive coordinator look great Kate
Stover I would have to assume he comes
off the board pretty quick too and a guy
that I liked at the uh Senior Bowl is
brevan span forward I think he’s more of
a blocking guy uh he’s he’s a big big
frame for the golden goers but um I
think he’s a guy that you could
potentially see come off quick too the
tight ends I was told would come off
probably quicker today were Sanders
Johnson Stover Wy and then AJ Barner
went to the went the Giants yeah I know
I know cuz he excels over the middle of
the field I think of the seam he is
really really good he’s got tough busted
on that guy they got from the Raiders
right oh well Darren Waller might retire
he’s so undecided on what he wants to do
with his future now he’s in the middle
of a divorce so uh this is a good this
is he might need to play Theo Johnson’s
a guy that I don’t think breaks a lot of
tackles for Yak but if you get him on
the move and you get him in space he can
turn up field and provide some big plays
for you Vikings on the clock now pick
108 I believe they’ve got a fan that is
making the selection right now for
Minnesota Kyrie
Jacks defensive back Oregon wow can I go
sicko for a little bit yeah go sio my go
ISO here ni Kyrie Jackson man this is
such a fun take for Minnesota and this
would make so much sense if this was
Mike Zimmer Still being the head coach
up there in Indianapolis but you see
that length at 6’3 and three4 194 lbs
he’s a press man he can mirror routes I
I know I mentioned a couple days ago
about how I spoke to a player up at
Oregon just kind of catch up on some of
these guys that are in the draft process
and this specific player is on the
offensive side of the ball and does a
lot of things on the offensive side of
the ball he said Kyrie Jackson was the
biggest uh uh disruptor on that defense
for Oregon in practice and in games last
season whenever they needed the defense
to step up and make a play they relied
on him to be able to cover their best
guy and you know you you sit there and
see a guy that’s pushing 6’4 and you you
think back to naan Wright out of Oregon
State a couple of years ago that went in
the third round his brother ra last year
yeah and then maybe you have a little
bit of hesitant a little bit of pause
because those guys those taller Slimmer
uh longer frames yes they have all that
length to be able to bat balls out of
the way and press off the line but uh
they sacrific a little bit of hit
movement because they have so much
length to be able to carry around I
don’t see that with Kyrie Jackson
granted it took a little bit for him to
get on the field I think that
development was really important for him
up in Eugene but once he was able to get
on the field he understood Zone Concepts
he was able to step up and play press
man but I think he’s a guy that you
could put up on the boundary five yards
off of his guy he’s going to be able to
account for anything in front of him and
he’s going to be able to step back a
step for step with whatever uh type of
receiving threat comes at him you can
line him up up against physical guys you
can line him up against speed guys I
think he can still be as important in
both areas but the one thing that I
think he will help the most in the NFC
North is being able to account for guys
coming around in the Run game I I think
for him to be able to step up and do
that that’s going to be huge for the
Vikings love this pick he was uh my
second highest rated guy still left on
my board yeah I’m I’m with you I thought
he was very very high he was very very
high on my board LED Oregon with three
picks 10 passes defense now he did
transfer from bam I’m not sure if you
mentioned that or not if you did I’m
sorry N I didn’t played a lot of special
teams with the tide so you know he’s a
guy that can come in immediately play
special teams but at corner and I used I
know you you’ve talked about this with
some of those missou guys like the
attitude the SWAT Kyrie Jackson is an
alpha male on the football field and at
corner specifically that’s kind of what
you’re looking for well I mean cuz Nick
brought up the fact that like if you’re
going to do an end round that you just
going to be able to do it cuz it’s a
it’s a corner out there he’s definitely
coming down with bad in the 2024 NFL
draft the Atlanta Falcons select Brandon
doers defensive fent over again let’s go
oh Brandon dless at this point in the
did you hear that defens V because I
think that’s very been that’s that you
you you all mention the piano players
over the course of this uh this draft
cycle he’s a guy that can move move
around 6’3 283 lbs but he has the
athleticism to be be able to come off
the edge if he needs to I don’t think
he’s like a wide n guy by any stretch of
the imagination but I think he can play
anywhere from three all the way out to
seven he’s a really versatile guy
that’ll be able to make that Atlanta
defensive line really have some
versatility and some flexibility back
toback Ducks here in the fourth round
Brian Doris was my second highest rated
player behind TJ Tampa who’s still out
there from Iowa State but Doris second
fastest uh 40 time at the Combine among
interior defensive linemen he also had a
1 168 10 yard split which was tied for
third but yeah I mean he’s a guy you can
play along the offensive line I like the
hands I like the power I think he’s
consistent with his technique and
leverage he gave guards fits in that
Washington game and Washington’s already
had two offensive linemen granted their
tackles that have been selected but uh I
I was a big fan of Brandon Doris
actually had a second round grade on him
yeah his build is interesting because
he’s just he’s just you know God don’t
make us all the same he’s like perfectly
proportioned to be that height that
weight it looks right he doesn’t look he
looks lean he looks strong um you
mentioned like yeah he can line up
multiple alignments but and I I think
that’s partially why it’s even taking
this long but the fact that they called
him a d and lets me know that they see
some things with him yeah the motor in
Pursuit is what stands out to me with
him is like it’s not always pretty with
him um he still needs some refining but
the effort is there with him most of the
play so I um I I wasn’t sure I thought I
felt like people were kind of down on
his testing though I know that’s weird
at the compound I thought his testing
was really really good thought it was
just fine but I know some I thought I
think you you made the point of yeah
we’re going to need to break this down
in just a second you made the point of
like what position is he going to play
right maybe that scared some teams away
because they didn’t think he was quite
big enough to play defensive tackle
maybe he was too small to play defensive
end Falcons got a good pick there and an
interesting draft there in Atlanta
Patriots just made a very interesting
pick we’ll tell you about that on the
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okay following along on the do side
Javon Baker the touchdown maker from UCF
ends up going to the Patriots they need
wide receiver help for Drake May they’re
getting quite a Target here uh with the
wide receiver from UCF Brian I I think
we all liked him but I I know there’s
some qualities here do you like this fit
in New England I’ll tell you what I
really Elliot wolf he he’s doing his
best there to try and and work with this
roster and try and get some help for his
guys as his new quarterback here’s
another transfer from Alabama he’s a
fluid moving athlete he plays with a
really good short area quickness he does
a great job of creating separation the
scheme allows them to catch the ball on
the Move uh Gus Malzone that crew down
there they they like to come at you in a
hurry he tracks it well he’ll go get it
he’s very good at high-pointing it he’s
a Str strong-handed player he’ll extend
away from his body the ball skills are
good he makes contested plays uh he can
help you in the running game with his
ability to block on the edge there’s
times where you see him uh you know find
ways to get in the way and then all a
sudden the ball’s coming behind him but
I thought he was very much like when we
watched Jaylen Tolbert and we haven’t
yet seen it at at the Cowboys but when
he was at South Alabama I kind of
thought the same thing with this guy the
ability to go up High Point the ball
contort do do we have to separation play
on the Move kind of a similar type of
guy I thought the little bit of the lack
of speed shows up at times I don’t think
it’s elite but is uh tenacious with the
run after catch yeah he’s sneaky but he
has a sneaky second gear that’s not
super like I don’t know if it’s not
super sudden but it does happen and then
also too you brought up the comparison
to Jaylen tobert yeah I L I wrote down
to Javon Baker is extremely QB friendly
y for all of those all of the reasons
that you named about him high pointing
the ball the concentration the route
running he definitely is somebody that
Drake makan uh build and grow with in
New England yeah I I think one thing is
for certain coming out of these picks
for New England so far is this is not
going to be your under Center uh let’s
have a 1990s funfair offense in in
Foxboro anymore getting um Javon Baker
and Jaylen pul as receiver weapons for
Drake May they’re going to spread this
thing out they’re going to throw it at
all three levels those are guys that can
do a lot in West Coast style offenses
too being able to cross across the
middle of the field and short quick
routes one read type type ordeals I
think that’s going to really help Drake
May’s development in the Mayflower up
there yeah I mean those are two
outstanding receivers and they needed
them badly right there so I mean for
Drake may they needed to get him some
Talent I’m continue to hammer it are you
are you do you have a t-shirt deal going
on up there get a deal made you do you
do I I love it I think it’s a lot of fun
okay Javon Baker by the way he was off
the boards of teams there were teams
that had him off the board and I know
when yep and I know when I was going to
interview him at Big 12 combine I had
reached out to somebody and just said
like like reached out to a couple people
like hey what are some things I should
touch on with him and I was told well if
you want a good interview and don’t want
him to shut down do not ask him about
Alabama for so here’s the situation uh
for those and if you’re if you’re I’m
watching on the stream at
dallascowboys.com you can then see this
but Bobby is behind me with kind of how
our setup is I don’t want Bobby to feel
left down if you guys see that Bobby is
trying to make a point let Bobby
freaking make his point okay all right
or touch me Bobby rub my shoulder do
something I’ll touch you Bobby Point
make his point you should heard the
phone call I got last night he was
crying he was crying on the phone
literally tears there were tears it was
like had so many nuggets I wanted to get
to I was just I was speaking called me
and Aisha’s crying I was just I was very
upset oh it’s the radio talk it’s just
the radio talk I was I was like what’s
happening right now but y’all have are
we losing ourselves no y’all have like
telepathy and and and you know I don’t
even know what that word means y’ it’s
like um the corded telephones they used
to have we’re like twins M uh green Bay
is having quite quite the draft here
Jordan Morgan Edan Cooper Javon Bullard
maybe the best pick of the entire draft
there at 58 Marshon Lloyd the running
back at the USC Tyron hoop Hopper from
missou now they’re on the clock again I
like what they’re doing there green
double
linebacker yeah they got Cooper and hoer
I gotta say I will say if you look at
that list I’m pretty confident the
Cowboys liked all of those guys so I
mean they’re SC St it looks like their
scouting staffs have seen some of these
guys pretty
similarly they’re right behind you too
picking I know they’re stealing that’s
what I’m saying when they took Lloyd
last night I got a little hurt you were
upset I got a little I drove home and I
I was behind just chees heads
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they the New York Jets have traded the
101th pick to the four time Super Bowl
champion Green Bay
Packers with the 1111th pick in the 2024
NFL draft the four time Super Bowl
champion Green Bay Packers selects
future Packers Hall of Famer Evan
Williams defensive back Oregon or back
it’s the Oregon round wow okay they’re
just rolling out man two Oregon
defensive backs as we’re back on 1053
The Fan we’ve been going through some of
the picks that have happened the Packers
in their draft Hall as a whole is pretty
darn good Jordan Morgan in the first
round who I think they’re playing at
tackle Edan Cooper the Texas A&M
linebacker in the second one of my
favorite players in the draft Javon
Bullard the safety out of Georgia
Marshon Lloyd who Brian was very sad
about running back out of USC Tyron
Hopper the linebacker out ofou and now
Evan Williams the safety from Oregon
Bobby what do you think about this I
what I think about is I I’m still trying
to figure out because nobody’s giving me
an answer what what the hell’s happening
with Jaden Hicks yeah that’s I’ve
reached out to a couple different people
around the league and and nobody has a
good answer nobody has a good answer and
I know there people thought I thought it
was a medical thing and it and it’s not
I I just have not I’ve called my gang of
seven and I know Evan Williams for
instance I talked to two different
people they had him as a PFA yeah yeah I
agree yeah I want to go through these
Green Bay picks really quick and kind of
how they have coincided with uh the
Cowboys interest over the course of the
draft so Jordan Morgan at 25 Cowboys did
a lot of homework on him at the Senior
Bowl and at the combine bringing him in
for a formal meeting had a quick meeting
with him Ed Cooper in the second round
formal meeting uh at the um at the
combine they met with him at The Shrine
bow as well that was one of their big
targets at The Shrine bow to talk to and
then they brought him in for a 30 visit
so there was a lot of intention behind
Edan Cooper I think if he was there at
56 there would have been some fun there
Javon Bullard not a lot of interest
there from the Cowboys Marshon Lloyd was
a quiet 30 visit for the cowboys that
came in on the very last day him and
Kingsley Su mataya came in on the last
day of 30 visits so they take Lloyd and
then Tyron Hopper he was another one
that was a formal uh in Indie and was a
30 visit so yeah there’s there’s
something going on between uh the
Packers and the Cowboys as far as needs
uh to caman Richardson the cornerback at
a Mississippi State who we talked about
on the draft show the size was there
Aisha I think you actually might have
brought him up this is a good pick for
the raides man first of all they get on
they get on my nerves because they just
be picking they’re having a really good
draft which is rare I think for
vas oh my go with that size man you talk
about the attitude of the player and the
effort with the player with my team now
I’m jealous my guys are doing great I’m
leading them from Heaven you’re
channeling not enough speed not enough
speed for Al Ravens it’s okay they’re
doing well I like it Aisha is right
about them they’re just picking yeah
they 2024 and dro the Baltimore Ravens
the like Devon Walker right
go
this Dev
walk I had this guy right because this
is around the the the range that I had
and we we talked about him on the draft
show TZ Walker and I felt bad after that
show because I was like I’m not trying
to just crush the kid I I think he’s
good I just saw hype when we were
starting this process in January some
had TZ Walker as a first round receiver
I just think with how deep this class
was I didn’t have him in the
conversation with some of the other guys
that were at the top of the board there
and then he really struggled at the
Senior Bowl Nick I know you were there
and got to see some of those practices I
mean the drops were an issue for him
there but big body out of North Carolina
uh falling to Baltimore here pick 113 in
the fourth round a good value going be a
pro bowl player going a good value pick
yeah absolutely and then l in the
divisional round you you see uh you see
a bad quarterback play right Bob yeah
you see an interesting frame at 61 193
but the 436 speed that kind of stood out
at the combine you see those long
strides that uh manifest downfield and
Dr May was able to kind of put it in his
uh put it in his bucket at times but
also he they were able to help each
other in a lot of different ways I think
they helped each other’s draft stock as
time went on but yeah it was the Senior
Bowl that I think was a big Proving
Ground for him and he didn’t quite show
up there in Mobile instead there were
other receivers such as Xavier Legette
or a Malachi Corley that may have kind
of stolen his shine as time went on down
there even a guy like Ryan flornoy out
of Southeast Missouri State who I think
we might uh uh hear his name called in
the seventh round kind of a similar type
skill set but he was kind of one that
stood stood out among that group on I
believe he was on the American team so
devontes Walker yes I think this is
great value for the Ravens this fits
exactly into the Ravens receiver room I
think too he’ll be able to kind of be a
weapon that’ll be interchangeable
between inside outside maybe even some
Jet Sweep stuff uh this is an
interesting weapon for them and Lamar
Jackson that’s a good pick there uh at
this point in the draft for them I mean
this is a guy who is a deep deep ball
guy like he yeah he has a big he’s a
nice catch right as well the the body
control I think he works along the
sideline to your point really really
well uses his body well to secure the
football in traffic the the issue for me
was it doesn’t always get a clean
release versus press man uh but yeah he
can find opening the scramble drills
with him and Drake May were something
where he does a really good job of
working to the quarterback working back
to the football he showed could be bad
bad body cat bad Ball cat
yeah those things because of the bad the
bad quarterback trying to get that out I
just was stumbling around all it’s day
three it’s day three it’s like a Bourbon
Street drunk walking down the street
we’re stumbling bumbling mumbling the
bourbon Brian brought us the scramble
drill and yeah you’re right you guys be
very alive and well so Cowboys not on
the clock until round five pick 174 if
you’re just joining us that could be in
the 3:00 hour unless they decide they
want to move up uh but the good thing is
still no running backs have come off the
board here so far in the what did we
tell you about jinxing the one thing was
St saying Cooper bbb’s name and then he
got here no say that that’s what matters
2:00 2:00 actually I’m looking at an
Eastern Time list Harris points
out it’s 2:00 it’s like 2 o’cl hour I
think it’s like what 2:30 that that
feels so much better because it seems so
distant to me I’m like God no I can’t I
don’t know if we can wait 3 hours scre
somebody tweeted at me last night was
like Hey do you think the Cowboys can
possibly try to move up and you know use
those comp picks next year I was like I
think you can sleep in dog I think
you sleep in while listening to us yeah
go have brunch with the wifey and you’ll
be back by two and you’ll have a good
time and you’ll make everybody happy let
me ask you guys about this because we
we’ve obviously got the rumors about
Zeke and that seems all but official
nothing is official yet but it seems as
though there is going to be an eel
Elliot reunion and there’s a lot of love
on both sides like you could tell uh
Zeke wants to be a cowboy and he wants
to end his career in Dallas but do you
think that lessens the like we have to
maybe mortgage of one of those fifth
round comp picks for next year to get
back up here if you see around a run on
running backs I I I hesitate on that um
just
because they have done a lot of homework
on later round running backs you look at
a rashin Ali out of Marshall who was in
for a 30 uh they talked to Tyrone Tracy
out of Purdue at the combine even kumani
Vidal has had some sort of communication
with the Cowboys as time has gone on so
I I think there is an expectation that
hey if if there’s a guy there in the
fifth or sixth that we still like we
we’re okay with doing that I think
that’s probably the the rhetoric that
they’ve communicated over the course of
the draft process and especially through
these first two days and and talking to
Jerry Jones yesterday and we asked him
do you feel like Ezekiel Elliott can
still be an rb1 he said yes and if that
is the true belief under the
understanding of the front office then I
then they would be okay waiting to to to
grab a guy on this day I wouldn’t
necessarily but um you know they know
they have a lot more context than we do
Bobby I mean I I will say and I think
Nick knows this that when he says well
yeah he can still they say he can still
be star it’s also like the question like
honey what do you think of my new
haircut it’s great like like like I mean
there’s what is the benefit in saying
absolutely not that’s an awful haircut
and so like I mean look we all uh we we
all keep the peace a little bit and uh
you know that that’s something that we
all have to uh priori there was some
talk about needing a center you know
that maybe his last play that maybe he’d
come back and got it a little bit more
you know look yeah he’s uh I I yeah him
in there against Dexter Lawrence twice a
year you know I my thing is um with
where Zeke is in his career and you talk
about mostly short yard situations stuff
like that how does that take away
possibly from if they bring him in how
does that take away possibly from Hunter
lipkey and some of the progression we
saw him make last year um I mean also
too I mean if I’m not mistaken he got
paid more than a lot of a lot of udfas
do so I just wanted to know like how do
how would that affect him if he came in
there was quite a bit of investment put
into Hunter ly and the undrafted pool
last year he was the first guy that they
signed he got the most guaranteed money
out of any undrafted free agent last
year in the entire NFL so yeah there’s
investment into lipkey and that fumble
in Miami man that hurt him so bad
because he had I think it was four
touches on that first drive and then he
never got another touch the rest of the
season but there’s still confidence jagu
UK and Ireland Competition winner Stevie
Howland who is also known as the Irish
jaguar and I have some news Stevie is
about to do the first ever Draft pick
from Ireland Stevie with the 114 pick in
the 2024 NFL draft the Jacksonville
jagur select Javon Foster tackle
Missouri I like this kid man hey you
mentioned uh Foster Bobby is a guy that
was going to come off the board here
pretty quick yeah I had
gotten basically 14 names that were like
hey these were guys that were surprised
didn’t go sometime on day two not not we
as in like an individual Club just from
various people that I talk to um and
five of those 14 have come off the board
already and so I think you are starting
to see that overnight sit on the board
and go oh there’s somebody let’s grab
him man all right so uh can I talk about
him just a about and if we if hey I feel
like if you if you did the work you get
to talk about the guy right so uh yeah
because we look at a lot of these guys
and uh yeah with Foster it’s a we have
another pick in oh Eric all went how
about that we’ll talk all after yeah t
okay but real quick about Foster if I
could uh as I get to him though this
guy’s a started left tackle for Missouri
he was a fifth year senior he’s got a
thin tall kind of build to him he’s got
length for the position good job using
that length in order to control his man
he’s able to sustain through contact to
the block there’s some snaps where he
does lose his man but that doesn’t
affect the play he’s a very good foot
athlete he doesn’t a really good job in
the running game when it comes to
getting movement uh he’s plays with some
impressive power athletic ability does a
nice job with ceiling Defenders off from
the play a lot of traits to work with
good Prospect here uh for the uh
Jacksonville
Jaguars and then the tight end from Iowa
uh Eric all and that is tight end you
right there is Iowa oh Jags pick in real
quick we’ll get to that and we’ll talk
all then we’ll take a break NFL draft
the Jacksonville Jaguars select Jordan
Jefferson nose tackle
LSU okay that might have been one of
your last remaining one teexs there
Brian when it comes to Jordan Jefferson
at at 313 62 the arms are pretty long
with him but we’ll get to Jefferson uh
probably probably on the other side
we’ll also get to Eric all I know iisha
you want to talk about him the tight end
out of Iowa who just went to the Jags
Jags two out of the last three picks
Colts on the clock now we’ll continue
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what what did you think about Jordan
Jefferson better than Mason Smith I
thought you know I had Mason Smith
higher yeah I bet you know I I like the
kid to be honest with you I like the kid
uh is it Anderson from Florida Atlantic
was that Anderson Evan Anderson I liked
him a little bit better than than than
this pick right here okay what’s uh what
are Anderson’s measurables because he’s
not one of the guys that I was able to
watch 6′ 1 356 lbs I believe maybe 6’2
wow so he’s just short me double check
on all that but he’s a yeah he’s a thick
boy probably the second
thickest AI boy probably the second
thickest uh other than tandre sweat in
this entire draft class um but yeah he’s
um he he brings a lot of uh lot of meat
to that one Tech let me say that um
can’t find official because he didn’t go
to combine but let let me work on that
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course Eric all the tight end out of
Iowa did did you you think this was a
little early for him to go I mean I know
you were a fan but I feel like you can’t
go wrong when it comes to taking some of
these Iowa tight ends Asia I mean I I
assumed somebody was going to take the
risk because the you know I I know
Bobby’s brought up the the back uh issue
that he’s had was there something else
too that I missed I don’t know specifics
but I do know that there were teams that
there were teams that flagged him and I
know of at least one that took him off
the board yeah so yeah he dealt with the
back issue and stuff like that torn ACL
yeah right knee so yeah he’s I’m I am
surprised that it was this early but I
just knew someone was going to take a
chance on him because again you bring up
Iowa you bring up the fact that like
those guys come out in a lot of time
their league ready you think about the
blocking that you have to do in Iowa as
well and that that’s something they hold
to a high standard but baby let me tell
you the first time I started watching
him I went back and looked multiple
times cuz I said ain’t no way this is a
tight end like I thought that he was a
wide receiver and his movement and some
of the route running and the the
releases are so sharp and stuff it’s
like hey man listen I don’t know if a
tit end is supposed to be moving like
this and a lot of time when you see guys
that have the receiving qualities it’s
again it’s one of those give and take
things you see them be able to be
receiving do receiving things and have
lateral quickness and be Twitchy but
they’re not as active in the Run game
Iowa ain’t allowing that like that yeah
so you’re also getting a guy that has um
Yak ability as well now I will say even
in the blocking game you’re looking for
him to just improve and staying square
and maintaining those blocks but the
initial contact is there from him just
really that’s all I’m looking for him so
um as far as the health goes um people
took a chance but I this is y’all this
is a weapon to me as a re as as a
receiving option if he is is going to be
healthy who else they got a
Cincinnati ooh I know they were a team
that was kind of linked to Bowers if you
were I don’t know what LSU tight ends
are in the league they they probably
play for Cincinnati good question that’s
a good question I felt like I’ll find
out here in a second it’s on the tip of
my tongue I feel like they have one
that’s it’s a productive white dude I’m
trying to think hind hind uh they oh
they signed Mike gaseki this off season
okay and then they’ve got Drew sample at
one time they had Hurst right did the
yeah that that’s what I was probably
thinking about they had thus Moss they
they genuinely did I’m just saying byy
you Bengals make him stop make the
Bengals stop all so now now their their
tight end room is Mike gaseki Drew
sample and now Eric all the tight end
out of Iowa gaseki is from where he was
pen Miami Dolphins and New England
Patriot oh New England was it Miami no
it was Miami drafted him and then New
England signed in free agency and now
he’s find his way he’s found his way to
Cincinnati that makes
sense all right the colt election is up
next here in the fourth round JN
Borg ah Wisconsin Center oh oh Tanner I
was wondering when these centers were
going to start coming off because before
van pran though yeah before van pran
Granger um you also have Hunter NORAD
still on the on the table but yeah
Tanner balini man this is a a fourth
round Wisconsin Center how about that I
know bord I mean this is a good spot to
get bortolini and and he started getting
a lot of hype I think like among the
Cowboy fan base but like the athlete no
question super athlete of the position
but to me if you worried about Tyler
botes maybe getting overpowered at times
at the NFL level it’s a lot of the same
balini gets overpowered van pran still
sitting there huh I’m surprised probably
probably because of the weight right
think linebacker not linebacker uh
garflex oh I apologize van pran maybe no
no no no no bordini oh bordini could
move and pull all right I want to ask
you about van PR though in a second no
you’re the 118th pick in the 2024 NFL
draft
the Seattle Seahawks select Tyrese
Knight linebacker Texas El Paso Johnny
that probably hurt that probably hurt
hurt them a little bit they liked him no
I think well I thought they liked him
oh fourth round Fast and Furious right
here on 1053 The Fan and
dallascowboys.com thank you so much for
spending your draft weekend with us I
know you got a lot of options out there
uh this thing’s running on TV but we put
in a lot of work and we appreciate you
being a part of our draft family Zack
walchuk alongside Bobby belt Nick Harris
the Super Bowl champion Brian brus and
of course Aisha Morrison hanging out
with you rocking through some of these
picks here in the fourth round Eric all
the tight end from Iowa went to the
Bengals at 115 Jordan Jefferson
defensive tackle from LSU just went to
the Jags at pick 116 followed up by
Tanner bortolini the Wisconsin Center
freak athlete uh but I I I know that a
lot of cowboy fans are thinking maybe
he’s an option at Center uh clearly
they’ filled that void possibly with
Cooper BBE but then Tyrese Knight at of
utap a guy that we talked about on the
draft should we liked quite a bit going
to Seattle your guy over there Brian
having himself another pretty good draft
Yeah I tell you what Johnny they must he
must be out of the room they must be
drafting him
out out he’s he’s looking he’s looking
for run running backs right now and
every everybody around the corner is
like keep him out of the room no
Johnny’s doing a great job up there I
love this kid when you watch this guy
play he UTEP not a good football team
and this guy played no seriously they
play they this guy played hard every
single snap downhill player physical
tackler L the way that he was able to
compete again they’re they’re behind in
every game and he’s still playing at a
very very high level Great Character guy
I I just I think John Snider they
they’ve had a pretty good run of
linebackers there in Seattle this kid
might be right in the line with these
guys they’re having the Nick Harris
draft over there Byron Murphy at pick 16
Christian Haynes the guard out of
Connecticut at 81 and then now Tyrese
Knight the linebacker from UT who I know
you liked a lot as well in there yeah
can we get babe lenberg on the line see
what uh see what he thinks about this
one um yeah this is a fun pick and this
is a guy who could have portal last year
and ended up at a program maybe at Texas
or Texas A&M but uh staying at El Paso
under a new head coach system too I
that’s tough to do to be able to stay
and bring that leadership to that second
level he’s going to fit just just right
with that Mike McDonald defense that
he’s trying to uh bring in in his first
year as head coach this is going to be a
really good rookie to have in that room
and develop I think he’s a hell of a
player as far as athleticism being able
to read and react uh get into the back
field uh I I noticed him the most in the
Run game but he’s a guy that can cover
the middle of the field as well how are
things going back there bobie pretty
great uh just working on some stuff uh
trying to find some things out Steelers
are on the board when you get something
just just go ahead and tap me oh
Steelers here I don’t know where
whoever’s your best player on your board
that’s who they’re about to takey
Ireland I’m party Clifford car GIC
footballer and a proud member of Steeler
Nation with the 119 pick of the 2024 NFL
draft the Pittsburgh Steeler select
Mason mccm guard South Dakota
State I could listen to that guy say
guard I could listen to that guy say
Mason McCormack how perfect is the name
Mason McCormack being picked by the
Irishman wish that yeah I wish the the
guy in Ireland would pick this pick yeah
he’s a guard H Mason McCormack at this
point he he’s an interesting player to
me I mean he was a guy that was was he
one of the Shrine Bowl guys that was
here yes and he he stood out there um 65
about 310 315 it depend on how you look
at him that day
um very vers out uh interior player uh
he played Right Guard Center left guard
um and he looked steady everywhere when
they did it when they used him there in
practice into Shrine bow and different
drills he just flies to the second level
uh the foot quickness is really good
from him especially at his size um I I I
think he times his anchor well as well
you do see some balanced things from him
that maybe he needs to work through but
the hand movement well the hand
placement is consistent and is very
strong this is this is a fantastic
pickup to me um with the flexibility he
possesses he is the classic like
FCS like just mer nasty guard who you’re
just like yeah there’s probably some
athletic limitations but he’s mean and
and he’s powerful uh like I mean that to
me is Mason McCormick just honestly you
know who he reminded me of a little bit
was um it wasn’t a guy it was somebody
who ended up here in Dallas but Brian do
you remember uh Nate ther from Wayne
State yes Nate he reminded me of Nate
ther in the way that he he played with
with power and like real nastiness and
so I I like him I I wouldn’t if the
Cowboys would have been in need of a
guard and had a fourth round pick here
and they took him I wouldn’t be upset
with that I I I like the The Edge that
he plays with I’ve done a lot of
homework obviously on Isaiah Davis and
Mason McCormack is is a result of that
as well the one note that I had Bulldog
he has like this neck brace that he
plays with that guard 55 straight starts
on the offensive line for the
back-to-back FCS national champions
that’s a big time feat uh he was able to
pave a lot of those running lanes for
Isaiah Davis between the tackles and it
allowed him to be a more efficient
Runner as his time went on up there in
South Dakota so yeah I think this is a
great pick for for Pittsburgh especially
in that offensive line room that has
already added Troy fanu they added
another really good offensive lineman on
day two as well yeah uh Zack Frasier FR
they’ve got three offensive lineman Troy
Fano as you mentioned the first round
Zack Frasier the center from West
Virginia then Roman Wilson the wide
receiver from Michigan pton Wilson the
Lineback from NC State which broke all
of our hearts then Mason McCormick the
guard from South Dakota State what a
draft for Pittsburgh right now yeah I
think with McCormick and I don’t know if
you guys saw this he tends to play a
little tall saying the balance his Lage
inconsistent yeah you’re absolutely
right that I think with the knee bin The
Leverage I think in the in the NFL he’s
just going to have to play a little bit
lower he’s strong but I’m not I don’t
think he’s strong enough to play upright
he stiff as a board he is stiff as a
board that is a fact yeah I didn’t think
I think the athleticism well like in the
speed is is more impressive than the
strength to me right now I like what
you’re saying there Nick just brought it
up though uh let’s bring back more neck
rolls on offensive linemen I missed the
days of the neck roll thatw yeah that
just looks intimidating I like it yeah I
I I thought about wearing one today just
wearing it you should have you should
have come in with the uh the Sugar Bowl
Jersey coming with the Sugar Bowl Jersey
a helmet absolutely wasn’t Goen a neck
roll guy in the 90s I think so you want
to talk about when you when you talk to
people from the ’90s team he go there
were a lot of characters on the team lot
lot of mean nasty players if you say
who’s the meanest football player you
ever played with a lot of them will not
say Charles Haley they will say Kevin
Goen Kevin Goan all right uh we’ve got
the Dolphins pick coming up pick 120
again that’s a track meet type of Team
fastest guy on your board whoever that
is right now it’s a guy that I don’t
want to name okay fastest fastest
fastest it’s it’s a running back fastest
or quickest player on your board I mean
unless maybe they could go with Malik
Washington Austin Booker yeah you go
Austin Booker but yeah don’t take the
running back that I’d like uh let’s look
here let’s go to top performers at the
combine by 40 speed uh terer mcclin is
an idea okay here yeah that’s Tian yeah
that’s an idea uh I mean the fastest
player at the combat who’s still on the
board is Isaac
gendo he was faster than okay well
that’s I mean that there’s two running
there’s another running back I was
thinking he’s a 4-3 guy right I just
want people to ignore him for like a
whole hour and a half other fast guys
Nehemiah
there’s a guy that ran situation I just
just don’t look at him I’d be pretty
heartbroken I I
really sc’s a good player he’s fast that
Arizona tape is fun to watch right yeah
I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves
but this time next year we’re going to
be talking about tedo McMillan who’s
another receiver on that Arizona team oh
my goodness if y’all are some college
football fans go catch some wild cats
next year how do you think they’re going
to do losing their coach you uh it’s
it’s I from what I have sensed that
senior leadership that has really
stepped up and those guys have played
from the time that they were freshman
that freshman quarterback right yeah the
kid from Modern Day Noah faf uh or
excuse me he came from St John bosow um
and he’s been able to uh to move to move
with taroa McMillan they’ve known each
other for years so that connection has
really helped at Arizona I think they’re
going to go into the Big 12 next year
and really Make Some
Noise Okay so we got Chom Robinson The
Edge and then Patrick Paul here is the
Dolphins pick at 120
Kansas
City thank you so much to the Miami
Dolphins and thank you Dolphins Nation
Mexico this is not too happy the
philadelph have three the 120 pick to
the Miami
Dolphins with the 120 pick in the
2024 NFL draft the Miami Dolphins select
jayen right no
oh man come on Mike McDaniel he a four
five guy right jayen 4 bleeping kid
can’t help yourself there gosh darn it
how many running backs do they need Mike
McDaniel it’s honestly a littleit you’re
hoarding them all you’re hoarding the
running backs it’s a little bit much
Jaylen Wright is going to be a star the
problem is now he’s got a chain in that
back field you also however he mo he’s
not even going to touch the ball enough
like you don’t need him they don’t stop
it stop it it does feel like Madden
Ultimate Team a little bit like they’re
just stacking up cards they’re just
picking they’re just picking I I I will
say you saw this might be something that
this this team identified in the middle
of the season last year whenever moster
went down with injury aan went down with
injury you goic let’s go let’s go get
another guy that can be productive and
we don’t miss a step in our offensive
skill set because you saw kind of a lull
in that offense whenever those guys were
injured and that really hurt them later
in the season against the Chiefs when
they were trying to develop in that ice
full of a playoff I will say there is a
thought process that say like obviously
we know sub four4 speed is rare but
there is a thought process that says if
you have an offense built around speed
like that you can’t sacrifice it
anywhere so all of your depth has to be
built to the same speed because if you
need somebody to step in you can’t just
adjust your offense that so if it’s rare
speed on the board you got to take it to
build out the rest of your dep I here’s
Seattle from Germany and then I’ll talk
about Cup winner and Champions League
winner
and I’m M former BBB left back and
two-time Champion we are very delighted
to announce the Seahawk next pick for 12
everywhere was the
121st pick of the
20124 NFL draft the Seattle Seahawks
select AJ Barner tight end
Michigan all right there’s another
Michigan tight end we’ll talk about AJ
Barner in just a moment Jaylen Wright
and I know I’m sure Eric chiafalo and
the chiafalo family are very excited to
get Jaylen Wright but my guy is he a
dolphins fan no no he’s not his dad his
dad and grandfather they grew up in in
the Miami area okay like his his
grandfather used to hang out with
Mercury Morris back in St so yeah Eric
grew up in in a dolphin so like they’re
his second team he he pulls for the
Dolphins because the family’s a bunch of
dolphin fans but Jaylen Wright Senior
Bowl invite the dude average 7.39 yard
per carry he’s explosive he’s Shifty
he’s elusive I think he runs behind his
pads he’s tough to bring down like the
guy I think is going to excel at the NFL
level like his game just translates to
the NFL he’s always legs are moving he’s
fighting for extra dirty yards talked
about the dirty yards Jaylen R will get
you the dirty yards Vision cutback
ability he’s a little high cut but he’s
going to stand in for pass Pro and he
can be a weapon out of the back field as
a receiver as well to me I loved them
it’s a great pick there for Miami uh
bear is about to pick and then we can
talk some AJ
Barner oh boy it is an honor and a
privilege to be making this election for
the best team in the NFC North the best
team in the
NFC the best team in the
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NFL well he’s going F guy Richie shout
out to all the UK Bears
fans with the 122nd pick in the 2024 NFL
draft our Chicago Bears select Tori
Taylor Hunter
Iowa oh my gosh here we go best team in
the NFC huh taking a punter pick 122 in
the fourth round hey Ray Ray guy award
winner did he have more punt yards than
they had offense yes yes that is a fact
look at this oh Beamer’s got the punter
roll look at be he might have been the
best player on the Iowa football team
outside of Cooper deene he got the most
playing time probably they were punting
left and right their offense terrible I
believe he broke an FBS record last year
for for punting yards I let me check
that but I I remember that being a stat
at some point last Seas or maybe it was
punt average something of that that
nature but yeah that Iowa offense is
like watching paint dry after watching
it dry already coer deene down there to
down it oh yeah Cooper deene he was able
to really kind of hone in his special
team skills too he was their offense
with all the returns he had yeah unreal
really good punter I think we saw him at
uh one of the All-Star games I forget
which one but yeah he he drops it in
there it’s like a it’s like Tiger Woods
putting it on the put it in on a par
three on the green it just Falls in and
just dies it’s it’s incredible um he
does a lot of good things man Brian
where like where is the right time to
take a kicker I mean fourth round do do
we think that’s when you don’t have one
when you don’t have one if you need it
badly enough take the best guy in the
fourth round he was supposed to go in
the fourth and here another thought here
is guy kicks in cold weather yeah this
is not like one of your Florida kickers
or Texas kickers this is a Flor this is
an Iowa kicker used to kicking in poor
conditions and those games that he’s
going to have to play in Chicago wow
you’re right at it what’s up Brothers we
got sketch for the Houston Texans here
Tuesday
Tuesday my it’s sketch people love this
guy the Philadelphia Eagles have traded
to 123rd pick to the Houston Texas
with the 123rd pick of the NFL draft the
Houston Texans select cage Stover tight
in Ohio State wow heing them with dtan
Schultz what’s up Brothers cage Stover
of Ohio special team special plays
special Players let’s go you know Kade
Stover after sketch comes out and makes
the pick for oh that’s so cool the
Houston Texans I I think Stover is
actually of a player out of the tit now
he was a guy I thought might I watched
him last year thought maybe he’d come
out and he went back to school but
Stover Big 10 tight end of the year this
guy’s got some well-rounded game to him
because he would block as well but he’s
got a little bit of uh wiggle when it
when it comes to being able to move down
the field can high point the football
what do you guys think of Cade Stover I
the blocking is is what stands out
initially to you is just how active and
how willing he is but he got some fire
to him when he’s blocking too he’s he’s
I thought that he was one of the better
uh blocking tight ends in this draft
hands down um he has really good strong
hands and then the the leadership from
him as well is something that I’ve heard
people talk about former lb uh Slash U
former linebacker SL defensive in you
see some of that in his play and how he
attacks angles and forces bad angles um
yeah 64 247 uh very nice frame and it
allows him to absorb contact to me very
well as well you mentioned I think the
route tree and stuff can improve but he
does have a little bit of that wiggle
that you’re talking about Zach that’s
just just enough to get you some of that
extra yardage when you need it C can we
go back to to Troy Taylor Just Just for
or Tory Taylor just for a moment um so
Tory Taylor set the uh incaa single
season record for punt yardage
4,186 okay Iowa total offense
3,284 so he he out kicked their entire
offense by 900 yards it’s incredible
he’s out kicking the coverage all right
literally it’s shameful 49ers pick is in
we’ll give you that on the other side
bucks J from Dallas Cowboys by the way
this is this is the Trey Lance pick
we’ll tell you who it ends up being
you’re listening to the 2024 NFL draft
on 1053 The Fan in dallascowboys.com it
hurts when you say it out
loud okay the Trey Lance pick 124 this
could have been the Cowboys on the clock
but hey I’m happy to have so in theory
if the Cowboys were on the clock who we
Ray Davis take Ray Davis what if they
take Rattler but uh yeah if the Cowboys
were on the clock um Jaden hick yeah r
one of these running backs hick Tampa I
think Allen I would take Allen here I
think Allen give me I think Davis is if
they want the if they want the Home Run
speed exactly you’re right about that I
love brayan Allen all’s not giving you
any
juice no he’s mostly power man there’s
two linebackers I got ikenberg I got
Ford I got trod on the board too I got I
mean I got that corner Tampa and Hicks
as well is what I’m looking at yeah
Tampa and Hicks would be my best players
and then next up would be Ray
Davis and then Austin Booker running
back tip Ray
Davis yeah Bobby they like Ray Davis
right yes I me he he can give you
everything really your way Nick no no no
you’re good the only thing is that mean
you would have a very small running back
room yeah he’s not the biggest guy
that’s that’s what I worry about with
like him and Bucky Irving you got to
bring some size you need six foot plus
which I mean if you look historically
historically the Cowboys have drafted
it’s I du Von obviously changed that but
if you look over the course of about 15
years almost every single running back
was six feet or taller every single one
I kind of felt like that Bucky Irving
needed a a a second guy to run the ball
with I didn’t think he was a feature guy
tand guy yeah I think he needed somebody
else with him I think Allen is a little
bit more hand the ball to him and let
him go I think maybe even Davis is that
way too I think Davis can carry the
load I like what you guys are talking
about about that louiso kid though I
like Isaac Reno man catches it blocks
right and there’s not a lot of tread on
that the tires at all like that that guy
has not really had an abundance of
carries in college now Ray Davis has can
I just throw an idea out I don’t think
he would work in this building but let’s
just say for Vibes Frank gour Jr no I I
if you want to wait I mean what about
will Shipley I’ll tell you will Shipley
again there’s a guy’s had a ton of
carries juice but he’s got juice and he
really good receiver yeah what’s wrong
what yeah it’s just will Shipley it’s a
perfect Clemson guy oh
yeah um what about Blake Watson yeah
Watson he is the perfect complimentary
back on in like the sixth seventh round
I think I don’t think already won though
but his receiving ability is incredible
out of the backfield we saw that at The
Shrine Bowl he was able to produce as a
receiver or not a receiver as a as
threat out of the back field in the
receiving game but um I think this pick
has to be somebody that can take 15 20
carries a game I don’t think Blake
Watson’s your guy there I agree I just
wanted to know but yeah I mean I was
pretty impressed with his running in
between the tackles and that Shrine bow
but but I hear what you’re saying like I
don’t know that he could carry the ball
20 to 25 time like 20 Pard right you saw
eventually that ended up being and Skip
Pete told us uh about that situation
here’s the 49ers pick out 124 who are
they taking with you guys feel like your
board’s holding up okay right now where
you’re at I mean to get this thing to
171 at running back just general it’s so
tough like picks out to think yeah I
mean
yeah ice you’re you don’t feel good
about your board right now holding up no
it’s it’s okay right now I’m just I mean
we got a long way to go to get to that
171 right uh or 74 is that where we’re
at 174 where is Kendall Milton on y’s
board Georgia running back sixth round
okay I would take jaay mclen over
Kendall Milton and I don’t really feel
great about either of those guys but
Jason mlen uh AO product as well um
somebody that Cowboys homework on really
dang Malik what is up with Jaden Hicks
Malik San Fran yeah God dang it bro that
is that is a San Fran that’s like a
hunga type pick oh that just pissed me
off that’s a great pick dang it fourth
round on my book right there oh my God
all right the Trey Lance pick in which
the Cowboys traded to acquire the
quarterback from North Dakota State uh
to the San Francisco 49ers just went off
as 124 overall in the fourth round Malik
Mustafa the safety out of Wake Forest
which fits the 49er type of mold for his
safety I mean he kind of reminds me a
little bit of haunga who they’ve got
they can play in the box but also drop
into coverage I know you liked Malik
Mustafa a lot Aisha yeah no this hurts
my soul um just especially that team
yeah man and it it’s funny because he
does fit what they what they like to do
over there uh he’s just ferocious as as
a as a Blitzer um I think he has good
bend to evade Lyman when he’s even when
he is blitzing but he’s constantly
reading the QB’s eyes I know we talked
about that a little bit um the other day
with Bobby but yeah he runs he covers a
lot of ground um really long strides but
he’s Scrappy and uh it also too like
when you watch him he kind of looks like
he’s hunting and the way that he’s
attacking uh attacking the ball or you
know trying to go um from hash to Hash
so yeah he’s just a very physical player
and I’m really sick right now because
I’m not in the mood to have to deal with
him at all but here we are and then a
running back coming off the board the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers selecting Bucky
Irving out of Oregon I actually uh have
uh someone that I know that that’s
buddies with Bucky Irving and Bucky was
kind of thinking the Cowboys might take
him yeah whenever I talked to that
Oregon player he was like hey are y’all
going to draft Bucky he would love to be
there and and we I’m sure a lot of
players say that like I’d love to be a
cowboy but Bucky Irving was kind of I
think hopeful he might end up being a
Dallas Cowboy but he ends up being a
Tampa Bay Buccaneer I know that was a
guy you loved Nick yeah it’s shorter
frame at 5’9 192 now he’s able to use
that 192 foot uh 192 pound frame uh to
be a little bit of a bowling ball
between the tackles he’s he’s Shifty
he’s got these quick feet that are able
to work in those quick uh those close
range situations getting into the first
and second level this is that play if
you’re watching on the stream that play
against Liberty the field Vision where
he’s just able to account for sideline
to sideline being able to find his
running Lanes he does a great job he did
a great job on the Oregon offense being
able to do that um I think he’s going to
be a great complimentary back I I think
I still think he’s a guy that can get 10
12 carries a game but he needs another
big set back to be able to do short yard
situations and uh take 10 12 carries off
his plate as well Rashad white Bucky
Irving interesting pairing but Graham
Barton blocking for them so that should
be fun yeah it’s with Bucky Irving I
think like what you’re just talking
about there like the field Vision the
decisiveness like the ability to move
laterally the lateral quickness is is
good but again we’re talking about for
Dallas talking about probably need a
little more size need better long speed
than what Bucky Irving’s going to give
you um but I think that Bucky Irving can
absolutely be a solid contributing back
in in a room it’s just he’s he’s not
going to be your primary guy yeah and uh
you got the Detroit Lions on the board I
think they’re all wearing Dan Campbell’s
jerseys in the war room right now that
is awesome cuz they’re bringing back the
the black jerseys with the blue trim to
and they’re they’re clean man they look
really really you don’t like my I think
I think any teams all black Unis look
pretty awesome and then they had the
blue pants too yeah they look they look
really clean so Dan Campell and the
Lions who have had a heck of an
offseason of course the NFL draft in
Detroit and uh we’ll see who they end up
picking I think you know just off I need
to pull up who all they’ve picked but I
think the Lions have had a pretty good
draft rake Shaw I think was their last
pick the corner from uh yeah they’ve
done a couple of Corners right that’s
all they’ve got they’ve doubled up on
Corner tyon Arnold and Andis R Junior
they haven’t picked since pick 61 the
second round yeah they gave you that
third round pick that’s right which
ended up being Cooper BB so what are the
details of this trade uh oh yeah because
they just moved up I don’t have those in
front of me we’ll try and get those
Deets right now as they have just jumped
up to pick 126 I think they got sick of
waiting they’re like you know what no
more we’re done with
this oh my gosh and I’ve just been
tipped off this is going to be a very
intriguing pick yeah this is a cowboy
stury visit pain this is a guy that we
talked about on the draft show a guy
they were not going to take though today
I don’t think so after what it’s already
happened just because of yeah where
where they’ve used their resources yeah
yeah uh I’d love to get the details on
what this trade is but we don’t have
those yet as we’re we’re waiting for get
on it Zach this is what I need you for
Bobby you’re the NFL Network guy I I’m
here for for gossip I’m not I’m not here
for fact loely where’s Slater get Jane
on the phone I need details I know she’s
babysitting Kyle Brandt on the Lions
traded a a 2025 third round pick to the
Jets for pick 126 so Lions get a day two
pick next year for this pick they really
wanted this wow so they give a third
round pick to get back in the lions like
to overpay huh yeah like you know what
we see our guy we want to go get him
let’s do this Picks Them picks is right
uh the Eagles will be coming up after
the Lions Brad Holmes is developing
reputation as aggressive he’s done this
a couple different times that they went
up for um jir Gibbs they went up for uh
Jameson Williams and I mean they went up
uh just the other day uh to pick 24 and
so I mean like he’s he pretty
consistently likes to go move up in the
draft and with Dan Campbell’s head coach
is had a surprise no but that’s a team
that’s win now I mean they they have got
that roster ready to rock of course they
lose in the NFC championship game that’s
the thing you’re probably looking at
like you’re talking about a year in
advance and you’re talking about what
they anticipate will be a back of the
the third round pick they probably look
at it as like this is essentially an
even swap yeah well then also too I mean
Green Bay has found their quarterback
mhm and so you can’t just kind of
Twitter your thumbs and watch Chicago
struggle and do what they do and
Minnesota hopefully is going to you know
have some production out do you think
Chicago’s going to struggle right away
I I mean Chicago to to me is essentially
a 500 team that roster’s they’ve put
together a nice nice Rapport around
Caleb Williams so you think
basically the same team they were last
year at 8 and N no that’s that’s what
I’m saying like a 500 team that then you
add romad dun and Caleb Williams and
Keenan Allen and and a team that played
a lot harder for Matt Eber down the
stretch I just I I don’t think that
they’re going to necessarily like
flounder and be a pushover oh no yeah I
agree but I don’t think that I don’t
think that the the lions look at them as
like a legitimate threat I think the
real threat in that division right now
GRE Bay see what Green Bay has done um
yeah it’s just they’ve been needing a
quarterback they’re putting stuff
together defensively it is a good
division it’s become one of the most all
right here’s the governor of Michigan to
give us the lion selection at
126 it has been a historic week here in
the great city of
Detroit we have shown the world what the
Motor City is all about and it is my
honor to announce that the
2024 NFL draft has now broken the
alltime
record we need to show from Green Bay
next year
700,000 in best parking
yeah thank you NFL fans Dro n great time
so it is an honor to announce that the
New York Jets have traded the
126th pick to the Detroit Lions make the
pick
man I thought you was coming up there to
the package the glasses and I’m going to
put my bucks on to read
this with the
126th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the
Detroit Lions select Giovani Manu tackle
from British Columbia
look at that and you know what 700,000
people which it’s crazy I don’t know how
they track this but that’s probably why
they’re getting Giovani Manu supporters
from Canada they just take that bridge
over and they’re getting the Canadians
there in Detroit to to party for the NFL
drafts five years with the Thunderbirds
earned all Canadian honors each of the
last two seasons playing both left
tackle and left guard look at Beamer
with that Canadian football British
Columbia Boll right now he is a tongen
long arms wide base fires off the ball
can get to the second level with ease
but the athlete for his size much like
we’ve talked about with Tyler gon at 6
foot borderline 6’8 350 Giovani Manu we
started to really do some homework on
him late in this draft process with the
Cowboys being linked to him it’s a fun
pick right here for the Lions yeah the
uh the Cowboys whenever they brought him
in for a 30 he was easily easily the
most intense guy that we had the
opportunity to talk to he’s uh he’s a
football Lover he grew up on the island
of Tonga and uh used football as his way
to get a education in in North America
he was able to find it at British
Columbia didn’t move into uh at least
the mainland North America until he was
in college but he he went out there and
honed in on his craft he uh he told me
that he didn’t know a lot about football
when he was a kid but then he saw a
YouTube uh highlight video of Ray Lewis
and he said he said it was the most
violent awesome thing he had ever seen
and he wanted to play football after
that so uh really cool to see him go in
the fourth round that’s that’s big time
the athleticism that he showed at his
pro day running sub five in the 40 I
believe he had vert a vert that was like
33 34 something like that with his size
he’s going to be a very fun project
behind pan Su at the Detroit Lines I
feel like that’s such a good fit he’s
going to be able to come in with a
Polynesian guy who’s one of the best in
the NFL he’s going to have that core
with him there that’s a lot of fun
that’s a really good fit for him and I’m
really happy for traits traits traits
there it’s it’s all there for him him um
I mean it pops on on tape now obviously
you got to wonder about the level of
competition everything else is the first
uh player I believe picked from that
school in the history of the NFL draft
but Brian I mean this was a this was a
name we had kind of gotten oh there’s a
pen throw no Ray Davis we got a run on
running Buffalo Bills um this was a name
uh Brian that we had started hearing you
know kind of whisper to us back like
late January yeah and and it’s a guy
that you know it was starting to build
more and more and then you got the sense
okay boys really like this guy again I
don’t know that they would have taken
him given where their resources have
been but I do think that they they
really found him intriguing and I
wouldn’t be surprised if they did have a
decently draftable grade on him yeah
he’s a he’s a massive guy too and he
moves so well very light on his feet
again the level of competition yeah it’s
not his fault uh you know he’s going to
get an opportunity Detroit you mentioned
Penny Su being there with him I think
this is a really nice pick for the Lions
little run on H running backs here back
to back picks the Philadelphia Eagles
selecting one of the guys we were
discussing will Shipley the running back
out of Clemson uh and then unfortunately
another I mean it was Jaylen Wright and
Ray Davis for me those were the two guys
I really was eyeing here I didn’t think
that either of them would really make it
though and they didn’t Ray Davis had a
Kentucky oh 49ers have traded up again
going to Buffalo Niners have traded up
uh I do want let’s just talk about these
running backs real quick will Shipley I
mean running back at a at a Clemson this
guy’s elusive and Shifty and and now
you’re going to see him twice a year
he’s comfortable catching the ball of
the Back Field though I mean he can run
routes down the field he’s patient he’s
got good Vision he can run in between
the tackles the start stop quickness
with him is very impressive but he loves
setting up Defenders with his little
shoulder fakes and he’s effective on
delayed draws and that’s something that
I think the Eagles will run quite a bit
with him uh and maybe he ends up being
kind of a third down option as a third
down back replacing DeAndre Swift but
that’s a good pick will Shipley getting
him there Brian did you did you want to
add it all to the shiing before we move
on to Ray Davis I definitely can see him
being very involved in their screen game
I think they got away from that a lot
last year with their tight ends that was
something that you saw heavily with him
the year before uh he’s he’s a guy that
can do that as well he’s just patient
enough to let things kind of open up and
then he’s able to burst and accelerate
through um I I will say he has like not
choppy strides but they’re like
schmedium medium stries medium stri yeah
I could see that um from him so yeah uh
uh he did a lot while he was in Clemson
I think his uh pad level is good as a
finisher as well so yeah he’s a guy that
can make something out of nothing
there’s a lot of times where it’s Allen
it’s not block clean and he’s able to
kind of make a play on it I think where
he’s going to you mentioned about the
third down stuff he could be a mismatch
player as a receiver I AG as a back in
the screen game yeah this is this is a
good player uh and then Ray Davis and
and we did a would you rather Ray Davis
versus Blake corm and I stood on the
table for for Ray Davis out of Kentucky
510
216 foster care homeless as a child one
of the best stories the entire draft got
a degree from Vanderbilt uh the story is
incredible with him he transferred from
Kentucky after two seasons at Vandy and
then two seasons at Temple yeah selected
to play in the east west Shrine Bowl uh
and the dude can just scoot I mean he di
the tape against Florida was really
impressive I mentioned start stop
quickness with Shipley Davis has that
too burst explosive for being a smaller
guy he runs with a lot of power like
he’s got speed to hit the edge make
something out of nothing as you
mentioned with Shipley Brian but a
powerful lower body I think he’s a
receiving threat as well check down
option he can go ahead and get you some
chunk plays there can run through
contact you know and and pass protection
I do think is something that he can do
maybe he can improve on it but I don’t
think he was a liability in pass
production I think he can be an every
down back I love that pick now you go
ahead and have him and James Cook that’s
a good backfield in Buffalo yeah this
guy lacks height not desire I mean he he
He will carry the ball uh he gets it
into the end zone he’s smart to know uh
how to hit it and then go for it and
then he he makes a decision he doesn’t
put the ball on the ground the knee the
knee injury there’s a history of that
there he’s play had a lot of carries
he’s been at three different places they
all realize that he’s one of the better
players they’ve had so he’s carried the
ball a ton I don’t know if that’ll be a
detriment to him but he has got superv
Vision out of the back field and sees
everything that’s going on in front him
he makes those jump cuts and things like
that
yeah I I mean he’s he actually I think
has the most carries of any running back
coming out into this draft which is
surprising more carries then Blake corm
when I was doing the research for that
would you rather uh so yeah he’s hit it
quite a bit Bobby yeah he has and I’m
about to I think I’m about to be ill
seeing what the 49ers are about to do oh
no I’m not in the okay we’re going to
come back yeah let’s go to break we need
a moment 49ers about to apparently make
a pick that is going to make us all sick
and then we will tell you all about what
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it welcome
to home of the Mexican national team in
Mexico City and now with the
129th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the San
Francisco 49ers select ISAC gendo
running back Louisville B ners no no no
this guy’s going to end up being a
thousand yard back there oh no this is
just a terrible situation oh my goodness
gracious this makes so much sense for
San Francisco though excuse me I have a
chicken sandwich in my mouth uh from
Water Burger from Jack Black products in
your hand about to they about to take me
off so he was a four-time state uh state
champion in track in the uh state of
Indiana as a high school guy ran a
1052 100 meter which is not the fastest
in the world it wouldn’t beat anybody in
Texas but in Indiana that’s really fast
especially at six foot uh pushing 210
pounds really productive runner at
Wisconsin but brayan Allen kind of took
over that starting role he wanted more
of an opportunity so he went to
Louisville he was able to play alongside
jaar Jordan who I think we’ll hear his
name called later in the day but you see
that 43 three speed that he put on
display at the combine that was huge for
him to go back home to Indianapolis put
that time down I think that’s what ended
up putting him in the fourth round it’s
it makes so much sense for the ners to
get a guy that has size has speed and
he’ll be able to carry a little bit of
load off of Christian mcaffry shoulders
this is a this is a perfect fit for him
here’s a Ravens pick for you Brian the
Baltimore Ravens select TJ Tampa
defensive back Iowa State that’s that’s
just unreal I mean TJ Tampa on my board
was my 37th best player yeah the which
is interesting because he was the 37th
fastest guy out here at the Big 12
combine out of like 38 people and hey I
guess that’s why he got knocked and he
goes to 13 no it’s the same thing with
like film didn’t lie on te Taber either
but he ran 48 and it was a problem bro
no but te Taber was a small guy T
taber’s film was that great no it was I
mean no I do like TJ Tampa but it is
scary the the speed is scary being able
to learn under Kyle Hamilton for him
will be really helpful I I I think just
being able to um understand the the
different roles that Kyle Hamilton has
had to play in that defense over the
course of his time there short time
there but still I think TJ Tampa can
provide a similar type role I think he’s
got safety Flex he can play off the
boundary I think I but the the the speed
that’s going to be the biggest question
for him and how can he how can he close
in those concerns and kind of keep them
in space but uh we’re going to see as
time goes on he was a ball Hawk for uh
State one of the better defensive backs
last season in the Big 12 man uh okay
wow that’s a perfect pick Jared Wy the
aop parent to Travis Kelce and did I we
we talked about that I did we talked
about that like Jared Wy perfect fit to
Kansas City there these are some fun
picks we got to break down I’m going to
make a bold prediction here sure to go
wrong TJ Tampa ends up being the better
Corner than Nate Wiggins in Baltimore
that’s fascinating I think so wow I had
Tampa graded higher I know Wiggins has
the speed he does but I think TJ Tampa
is just a better overall cornerback I
had him at 47 on my board so I’m glad to
see him go but I mean yeah that that’s W
I mean all the speed it’s just all the
speed it’s all the speed and you can’t
teach the speed man Isaac Reno going to
the ners though still make that hurts
but again I that’s why I asked um I
don’t I don’t remember which theu but
that’s why I was asking like does Tech
being technically sound or you know
having a lack of wasted moving movement
and stuff make up for some of this stuff
because when I watch TJ Tampa I see a a
calm player I see a guy that is very
good at reading the wide receiver
because he is a former wide receiver
himself so I think that some of it is I
don’t know I I I just he’s not super
fast but I think he does have a good
understanding of what he can do or in
the timing of when to accelerate or when
to drive on a ball or whatever the case
may be and again with the mirroring uh
the mirroring and the wide receiver he’s
not he’s mirroring them a lot of the
time he sometimes he’s running their
routes for them so anyway that’s I just
want to say that like I I’m curious
about that moving forward Wy off the
board boy Chiefs have gotten three
really good players Xavier worthy Kings
Le Su Mata and then Jared Wy they draft
well there was one team I know that had
Wy as the second best tight end after
Bowers I believe it I mean his receiving
ability you I had Bell over this guy I
had bill I mean Jem Bill’s fun yeah but
Jared W I think you know the size
obviously 66 we’ll break him down here
in a second get it
pton it’s always so awkward cuz people
watch on the stream just here is go
quiet and think something’s
wrong you’re a
nuisance thank
you three running backs going in a row
here in the fourth round will Shipley to
the Eagles Ray Davis to the bills and
right before we went to break we
mentioned the Niners going to make us
sick
Isaac gendo the running back at
Louisville going to San Francisco we
talked about him on the dotc side during
the break but a transfer from Wisconsin
to Louisville sturdy Runner very diffic
difficult to bring down usually Falls
forward fights through contact receiving
ability in the screen game downhill
Runner uh welcomes contact I mean this
guy has a nose for the End Zone really
really fun player Isaac Reno probably
going to sell there in San Francisco TJ
Tampa then goes to Baltimore all the
Ravens do death taxes and good football
players fall into the Baltimore Ravens
happened again with TJ Tampa at Iowa
State but this and and we can talk more
about Tampa if you want Brian but maybe
the most intriguing pick of today so far
for me is Jared Wy at a TCU formerly of
Texas Temple Texas quarterback there in
high school talk to me Jared Wy
City and Nick and I think for fun were
like talking like look Jared Wy as an a
parent to Travis Kel I think would be a
perfect fit because for him yeah is he a
great blocker no that’s an area he needs
to improve he’s got the size to do it
yeah I did talk to teams who who felt
like he had the capacity to become a
good blocker like they think he’s got
the frame and that’s one of the things
that in an era where you’re seeing a lot
more these tight ends that are like big
slot receivers almost they feel like he
has the frame to be able to play in line
and develop into that and I’m with you
fifth year senior team captain for TCU
played his first three years there at
Texas eight touchdowns led the nation
among tight ends but this dude long arms
Big Catch radius can line up inside can
line up out wide we’ll play some HB as
well but the vertical speed to stretch
the defense and make plays after the
catch the middle of the field is his
home he’s got some suddenness to his
game he’s got patience to find openings
when working underneath you know maybe
you can improve the lower body strength
which I think help when it comes to the
blocking but my gosh as a receiving
tight end threat this guy can be elite
yeah can I can I show quarterback Jared
Wy on the on the SC I’ll wait till the
highlights are over but uh nevertheless
yeah Jared Wy so does he start dating
Olivia Rodrigo now is that how this
works and well he goes and be a tight
end threat for for the Kansas City
Chiefs but it’s going to take some load
off of Travis Kelce obviously he’s on
the back half of his career pushing his
mid 30s um for Patrick Mahomes to still
have that tight end weapon here’s a
quarterback Jared Wy if we can if we can
get that on the one shot maybe but yeah
this is quack when they went to the
state championship he was not he was not
here we go look at that via my guy Mike
roacha 247 sports that’s awesome shout
out to Mike yeah big time but um
nevertheless um he was uh uh he’s going
to be able to be a weapon that could
just kind of take Travis Kel’s Throne
whenever he eventually makes his way
into retirement and Patrick Mahomes will
still have that legitimate receiving
tight end weapon um I I think he’ll need
to improve on the blocking aspect of
things to be able to be that full Travis
Kelce type potential and obviously
Travis Kelce is a one-of a kind tight
end so it’s not like he’s going to be
able to fill those shoes completely but
really really fun uh stab at it for the
Chiefs we
appreciate the Philadelphia Eagles have
traded the 132nd pick to the Detroit
Lions with the 132nd pick in the 2024
NFL draft the Detroit Lions select c fox
running back Utah ah running oh vaki uh
that’s the second safety from Utah
that’s been taken Ben Bishop went
earlier in the draft I think to Buffalo
they just announced him as a running
back though that is fascinating uh wow
yeah I thought I was hearing than I
think she might have missed that no no
no he he the notes up there on NL
Network he has he it’s like a miles Jack
thing where he’s got experience playing
both yeah so he has running back
potential there they’re going to use him
as a running back huh which is
fascinating I think the Lions traded
again to go get him yeah they did they
traded up again to go to go grab him but
yeah he was able to uh carry the ball
again that pack 12 Championship that’s a
perfect shot of it there whenever they
had injuries in that back field and they
had a couple of tragedies happen in that
back field as well over the course of
his time there at Utah and he was able
to step in and be a receiving weapon for
them in the running game I I had him as
a s I thought he was going to be a
safety at the next level so this is a
little bit surprise to me but I don’t
hate the I don’t hate the stab at it
especially with the guys on the board
this is kind of cool Kansas City’s in
now yeah Kansas City
def
oh they’ve picked four really good what
a draft what a draft Jaden Hicks the
safety out a Washington state guys I
mean in my notes for Jaden Hicks when
you watch him play Holy Moly I think to
me he was kind of a blend of some Troy
palalo and Harrison Smith I mean the
dude’s like a Tasmanian devil out there
he he he went to Bishop gourman High
School in Vegas which is a Powerhouse
he’s got a ton of range and physicality
can Blitz off the edge super competitive
he will tackle anything that moves will
Jaden Hicks he’s always around the
football can make plays against the run
in the p no doubt I think he can be Ane
exceptional special teams player he’s
smart uh I mean he he he’s a game
wrecker is what he is is what j i I
don’t understand and have no idea you
you didn’t still didn’t get we still
didn’t get clarity on Jaden hickon why
he fell no I mean there were people
asked last night I was like what’s the
deal with Jaden Hicks like don’t know he
was my high I don’t know yeah yeah he
was my two safety behind like I mean to
me he was so much better a player than
nuben to me I I thought Hicks was I
thought Hicks was everything that the
hype around nuben had said like to me
nuben was much more limited to to me I
thought a guy who needed to play in the
Box I think Hicks can be an
interchangeable safety I think he would
have been perfect here that’s somebody
who is you know to me like his his
finishing teach tape kind of tackling
like I really love the Prototype size
everything about him is what I want in a
safety man that is uh that is excellent
value here’s the Jets pick from
Ireland in the 2024 NFL draft the New
York Jets select brayan Allen running
back Wisconsin of course they did okay
so there goes bril and Allen and and a
lot of people have been texting in and
asking on uh Twitter like hey what’s the
deal with bril and Allen well in the
first hour of the show we were lucky
enough to have a variety of cowboys
Scouts and uh was it
was it Mitch Le Point Mitch said they
want juice yeah Mitch Le Point said they
wanted juice brayan Allen isn’t the guy
to give you juice like and I know I
think who likes brayan Allen the most in
this room Brian is it you it’s me okay
you you go I’m up there too but I’ll
I’ll let Brian go you go ahead and talk
about brayan Allen because to me it’s
like if it’s blocked up brayan Allen
gets it but I don’t see any creativity
in his Oh no you’re absolutely right
about that and and and you know when
when Mitch was talking about the the
juice part of it uh that takes this guy
completely out of the mix here uh when
you when you start to talk about the
running backs uh you know he does have
an a good initial burst and then he
slows down and so the contact balance
you don’t see him getting knocked off
his feet tacklers will run and he’ll
he’ll run right through tacklers he’s
got nice yards after contact I wouldn’t
say he’s a quick-footed guy or ability
to escape is not much lateral quickness
there’s not much movement to his game
there’s some stiffness with the way he
runs you don’t see the ability to really
cut back or bend in the play where he
hurts Defenders is with his power he’s
good around the goal line he’s good in
short yardage and he plays more as a
bully than he does anything yeah people
just gonna get sick of tick get sick and
tired you don’t want to tackle him
anymore yeah yeah that’s big guy that’s
I mean he’s just like a baby tank and as
far as physically like a baby tank um
yeah it’s it’s not super flashy or
anything like that it’s just he’s just
going to get on your nerves and wear you
down how would you physically describe a
baby tank
what I mean what I mean is is like just
the bulldozing through people I get what
you mean a baby tank he just being a
jerk I’m just I’m just having fun on a
on a day three Saturday oh Jesus Vibes
don’t give me exi here here are the ners
again picking uh 135 in the fourth round
I mean they’ve taken two guys already
here at this point one of them are these
Co this because of they’ve lost coaches
to the yeah I think they’re getting comp
and they traed up in this round okay we
got comp picks because of coach
where my ners
at with the
135th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the San
Francisco 49ers select Jacob Cowen wide
receiver just talking about him not too
long ago honestly I we we slided you
Bobby I’m sorry you do love brayan all
and the com actually that you gave to
about brillan Allen uh with James Conor
there is yeah I think I think he’s
actually a pretty good was brayan Allen
on your board uh fourth round he was 51
for me he was the third running back he
was the second rounder I loved BR Allen
I think he is James Conor like like that
to me you talk about a guy who yeah the
long speed’s not there the biggest
problem I have is like for a guy that
size he shouldn’t be as poor of a pass
protector as he is like like it just his
his size does not match up 86 or
actually player 86 86 okay I so I really
like brilin all I think in terms of like
how quickly he sees the hole the contact
balance the ability to uh you know I I
don’t think the footwork is necessarily
Elite but I think some of the foot
quickness and the ability to get into
tight spaces even with the size that he
is and and remain up on his feet punish
Defenders I really really like brillan
Allen of course the long speeds an issue
but final pick of the fourth round tiny
but electric Jacob coing the 58 168 wide
receiver out of Arizona ends up going to
the San Francisco 49ers they have him
and they have Pi on now but what do we
like about Jacob calling yeah there’s
there’s clearly a desire to trade either
dbo or Brandon IU it sounds like the the
buzz coming out of today is that it’s
going to be Debo but nevertheless Jacob
cowing started his career at UTP out in
El Paso was super productive uh in the C
USA for the miners out there and and uh
head coach Dana dimmel but whenever he
made that transition to Arizona had one
of the most productive uh junior seasons
in the entire country in 2022 uh injury
a little bit as a senior also pedoa
McMillan really coming into his own he’s
going to be a top three round pick next
year potentially first round uh so being
able to just kind of find his way in
that offense under Noah ffid and Jed
fish and I think whenever he was able to
really find it and hone in on it on the
back half of the season last year that’s
when you saw Arizona really take off and
win some of these games that they
probably shouldn’t have they were really
productive in that last season in the
Pack 12 again I feel like they’re going
to go into the Big 12 and and be just
just as productive but Jacob cowing
really productive receiver he’s going to
be good for this uh this Niners program
they have a lot of young receivers out
there like let’s let’s look away from
the names uh the big names like Brandon
I canbo Sam Samuel now you have Ricky
piol Jacob cowing Danny gray is in that
room um there’s there’s a lot that they
can work with in that offensive skill
department and taking gindo as well my
goodness that offense is just going to
get better oh my gosh and as far as
Jacob Cowen goes I think he’s going to
thrive in the slot like you said Nick
but at the same token I think
situationally he can give you some
things uh at the ex because of how he
can threaten you vertically um just a
versatile very versatile route Runner
and again he has some twitch to his game
um and his uh his stride is very smooth
he just he looks like it looks like one
motion with him yeah so yeah I’m I’m I’m
jealous so I’m just going to stay over
here um they’ve done a lot in this this
round this round they like San Fran is
really a lot of stuff that’s may be itch
so I’m just gonna try to stay calm wow
um nesis
yeah absolutely no doubt uh and the
running backs now I mean it’s starting
to look a little bit slim uh there’s
still plenty of guys and Frank Gore Jr
we have mentioned him I like I think I
was higher than Frank Gore Jr than a lot
of uh people audri estimate still there
but he doesn’t have the juice I don’t
really love jaar Jordan uh we talked
about Tyrone Tracy Tyrone Tracy is
Tracy’s got some Tracy might be the guy
what you got I mean he’s what is he he
was 448 but I mean he’s like he’s
similar to Pard in that Pard was one po
was a 451 guy but he played a lot faster
play so much fter this kid was a wide
receiver at an Iowa and you can watch
him running routes and stuff like that I
mean the way he catches the ball the run
after catch was good I think he’s got
toughness to his game as well you know
if you’re interested in having a guy
like that that if you feel like you’ve
got some guys that have some power he’s
a guy that’s pretty I think he’s pretty
elusive he’s not a 4-3 guy but you watch
him play man he has got good feeli good
toughness for the position
all right we’ve got uh oh Nehemiah
Pritchett the cornerback from Auburn now
goes to the Seattle Seahawks as we’ve
opened up the fifth round of the draft
we’ll get you more on the fifth round is
now the Cowboys pick it’s within
shooting range here huh we’re in the
fifth round pick 136 overall we’re
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okay NE Maya pritchet 436 man out of
Auburn what do you guys think about
pritet I did not watch pritchet let me
talk to you about priter tell me about
pritet yeah if I could if I get to my
notes here real quick I’m doing a little
housekeeping as we’re talking uh
scrolling down on my notes get there a
little faster if you could Brian people
are waiting on you uh Pritchard
Pritchard Pritchard Pritchard after
Phillips yeah this guy lines up been
both left and right sides he’ll line up
in the slot he’s a much better press
Corner than he is off uh when he plays
press his foot footwork is solid he
shows the ability to mirror to match the
receiver’s release he plays with sticky
coverage style he’s really good feel for
how to stay connected with the receiver
movement skills are good his long speed
allows him to stay in position he’ll see
uh he’ll see the receiver show some
separ uh so some separation then know
close ground really quickly on this guy
didn’t see him get beat over the top or
lose a one-on-one battle deep and so
he’ll battle receiver at the catch point
or along the side Sidelines and drive
him out of Bounce he does a really good
job of disrupting the routes of the
receivers when he’s playing in press so
throwing his body around he tends to
tackle that way he’ll throw it at the
receiver’s legs he’s got a thin wiry
frame but he does his best to protect
and so now his ability to cover both
inside and out 6 foot 190 lbs by the
way okay so now we’ve got pick 137 round
five uh with the LA charges on the clock
there were eight running backs at at the
combine who ran 449 or
faster and I believe let’s here 1 two
three four four of them are off the
board half of them the remaining ones
are Tyrone Tracy kamani Vidal Kon
Robinson and then Jaden Sheran that’s it
kin Robinson I feel like is a special
teams guy yeah I think I think
Robinson’s a PFA yeah but so to me like
if we’re closing on the fifth round and
we’re looking at this I don’t know or we
might be looking at Vidal and
Tracy yeah I could see that or just
signing Zeke yeah you remember the whole
thing about juice well yeah but I I just
think in a specific role I mean you
think about with the other ones that you
might have he fit he fits in terms of
like what they need in terms of an edge
and that running back room like like he
brings something to the table but like
speed is just not going to be one of
them the long speed’s not going to be it
right now yeah the gendo one that hurt
yeah it did I mean because I I thought
gendo might slide a little bit more like
fifth round was probably the area better
you should have known better but then
that I mean that run happened we had
three go boom boom boom boom right after
each other I’m telling you they’re like
Mojo Jojo that’s a tough one they’re
just watching us do we do we question if
it’s something other than running back I
I don’t think we dedicated a whole lot
of time talking towards potential other
positions here I mean sure I mean at
this point definitely it could be
something else yeah well it very well
could be yeah I totally agree with on
that I’m interested to see what players
are on that board uh I’ve you know would
you think about another Edge you know
where where would your where would you
think your depth of your board is right
now is it at wide receiver uh is it at I
think mine right now is holding up
pretty good for an edge if you wanted to
add another one of those guys we we
talked to the linebacker coach I’m sure
he’s going to go in there and fight for
a linebacker we mentioned you know you
got Ford on the board you know I know
that’s a medical concern maybe troter
still on the board Watson McGee Jacobs
Penn State right I mean you do I know
there’s we’ve had a couple guys go but
still on the board are Brendan rice Taj
Washington and Malik
Washington I don’t want to I don’t I
don’t want to bring up uh the
conversation we had yesterday again but
defensive tackle there’s still some
intriguing names on the board Christian
Boyd out of Northern Iowa um you got
Makai Wingo out of LSU Fabian love it
Leonard Taylor I mean he was a guy that
I did not believe to be a top two day
pick but now as you’re looking maybe
late in the fifth round if he’s still
there do you take a swing on that I I
wouldn’t be the biggest fan but it’s a
thought uh I I mentioned Evan Anderson
as potentially a seventh round option
but um still some intriguing defensive
tackles on the board yeah if you look if
you look at corner DJ James Johnny Dixon
cam Hart Kaylin Carson Chris Abram drain
yeah yeah I mean this still some crazy
Talent
there Austin
Booker man oh yeah I looking at the
fantex was a was a dumb
decision why because all these all the
running bag’s going off and they’re not
too happy about well no it’s mainly the
Jaden Hicks thing yeah they’re like oh
my gosh how could you compare Jaden
Hicks to a Hall of Famer in Troy palalo
the NFL told you he was a fourth rounder
like do you realize how many Hall of
Famers have been taken day three of the
draft the NFL missed on I mean a lot of
people a lot a lot of people thought
Desmond King was a top tier Talent he
ends up going in the fourth round and he
ended up being a good and he was a good
player yeah who’s maybe the best player
ever Tom Brady what round did he go six
yeah I mean 199 come on you can find
really good players on day three such a
dumb take there are from that list of
guys where I was like who were you
surprised didn’t go
round oh they saved
us all right we’re in the fifth round
we’re still uh quite a ways away from
the Cowboys selection pick 174 we’re
currently at pick 138 so we might be
what Nick like an hour hour and a half
away ish from the Cowboys getting on the
clock unless they want to move up but
there’s been a run on running back Zack
walchuk Bobby belt Nick Harris the Super
Bowl champ Brian brus and Aisha Morrison
Bobby though you’re about to hit us with
some knowledge bombs it’s just the the
names that I was told like just various
names from people they’re like this guy
thought he was going to go in the third
didn’t uh and there’s three names left
out of the ones that I got this morning
I got 14 of them and the ones left two
Edge rushers uh Muhammad chimra Austin
Booker those those two are still out
there yeah and then the one that I mean
I don’t know like if you’re talking
about value if you get down to pick 170
people maybe don’t want to talk about it
Spencer Rattler is still on the
board yeah he is I if if it came down to
Rattler or Pratt if you’re looking for a
quarter I would take Pratt myself if it
if those two were on the board yeah I
don’t know if people you guys Bobby you
look like you would do it the no no no
no no I I mean I’m not a big Spencer
Rattler fan um but I’m just saying that
impressions of I’m not going to lie if
somebody else takes him right now I’m
totally cool that that’s just my
personal evaluation that’s an
interesting pick from Arizona Edge
Xavier Thomas out of Clemson uh I
believe we talked about him in the last
couple of weeks leading up into the
draft a shorter guy uh off the edge but
has some incredible bend that he’s able
to get around the edge and attack the
back field he uh had so much time there
Clemson six years as a tiger under um
dbos Sweeney but uh being able to go to
Ariz that’s an interesting fit for him
he’ll be able to kind of use that
athleticism people thought he uh I know
there were teams that thought he really
flashed out here when he was out here
for
Shrine okay was it here Xavier Thomas
yeah Xavier Thomas yeah what Thomas is
like a one of those I mean I think we
brought him up as like the traits person
in in day three was that what we were
talking about when we were like hey give
me a day three guy like Thomas has some
of that and Clemson’s pumping out some
really talented defensive lineman to the
league I I mean Xavier Thomas could end
up being a pretty good steal here at
this point in the draft man I kind of
felt like we mentioned Booker how about
Caesar from Houston Gabe Murphy uccla
yeah Jackson camra Cedric joh Cedric
Johnson from Miss man I you know what
hey God bless you Arizona but man I know
on my board I would be like going you
just passed on five or six guys there
that I kind of like a little bit how
high do you guys have CU I had Booker as
my 70th guy and I yeah third third round
yep that’s exactly where I had him too
had him 82 he’s my second best available
player right now I maybe it’s the
experience there was not a lot of game
tape but I I’m I’m banking on those
skism yeah but it’s just the bend with
him right like to me you can’t really
teach that natural Bend and Booker’s got
it Gabriel Murphy is a guy as well that
yeah I thought um Gabriel Murphy’s a
really good player could been a player
in the fourth yeah you could watch latu
on the other side like whoa who’s this
guy yeah who’s wait who’s that guy you
have to you know that’s Gabriel Murphy
over there though so yeah that’s why I
said like if you get to the Cowboys you
know there’s some there there might be
some stretch with this this Edge group
you know somebody that can could be a
better Fowler or a better you know
better Armstrong there’s there’s some
quality I mean I I that Kamar kid from
uh from Colorado State man I love I mean
come on me and he’s probably sliding
because of the short arms thing cuz he’s
a little bit undersized but man Kamar is
one of those guys the motor with him he
is Relentless I mean hunter how about
NORAD and Van pran still being on the
board that’s little notes Limer Bo
limmer still out there Jordan McGee just
went okay Jordan McGee linebacker out at
Temple commanders goes to the commanders
that’s a that is a Dan Quinn linebacker
right there yeah that makes some sense
right there be able to keep him close to
home he’s from do Delaware and went to
Temp uh Temple which is not too far up
the up the street there in Philly uh
yeah he was a 30 visit guy came in now
when I watched him on tape he looked
super narrow and more of like a coverage
guy but when I saw him in person he
actually had some thickness to him and I
wonder if that’s something that he’s was
he a quarterback wide receiver he was a
quarterback back in uh high school and
you can see that in his instincts on the
defensive side of the ball he he’s
really able to use that they use him in
situational blitzing he’s able to attack
attack the Back Field I think this going
to be a really a fun fit there for the
Washington commanders it’s a really good
fit for Dan Quinn as well also when
you’re watching this film look how big
the numbers are on the back of Temple’s
jerseys they really take up as much
space as possible Temple tough baby that
that’s what they are that’s what uh
that’s what um what’s his name um homie
now at uh Nebraska the one who’s Matt
there we
go of course old Baylor Baylor Bean back
there would know that yes oh yes man he
was he would did a great job college
football coach homie at Nebraska hom at
Nebraska when the last time we had a
Nebraska it’s what do what do you want
from me mahogany still there mahogany is
still there chran mahogany has medical
Flags Okay Bo Limer ACL that’s probably
it new plan for some teams apparently
Matt Lee there’s still quite a few good
uh interior offensive linemen on the
board as well and these linebackers
jereem trer Jr yeah we’ve set an NFL
record for consecutive picks without a
quarterback at 29 NFL draft record so I
I would have to think that has the floor
right now for Spencer rler is uh the
Raiders here at
148 I’m surprised that Rattler hasn’t
been taken either I mean even though I’m
not a huge Spencer Rattler fan but I
figured some team would go ahead the
talent’s there with him yeah but it’s
just so hot and cold yeah it is very
incist it’s like it’s like you in like
one game he’s thrown for 480 the next
day you’re like thinking you get your
backup quarterback warmed up perfect for
Vegas yeah just the chaos perfect yes
embrace the chaos with this guy for
sure all right
right we’ve got the Chargers on the
clock here at 140 MH what if the Char uh
the Chargers I’m trying to look at see
who they’ve
taken they’ve done a
lot yeah I mean I don’t think anybody’s
got more picks than Washington right now
Washington’s got I mean it feels like
they’ve been picking okay here’s the the
pick is in here for the
Chargers I’m trying to pull up their
draft class as we speak okay uh yes
they’ve gone with
Al makoni Olen tarib still the
cornerback from Maryland is who they
took just a little bit ago a couple Ste
at all yeah um I wonder they still
haven’t gone with a running back and
they need a running back so that they
could be a team but we assumed Blake
horm would go there and he didn’t they
haven’t grabbed one yet the Rams got him
the other La team got him they got Gus
Edwards and JK Dobbins the uh the hurt
Duo from Baltimore they just made their
way to the West Coast and but they still
need a guy that they can rely on
durability wise you would you would have
to
assume
okay well this is taking a while to get
this pick in but I would assume I mean
if you’re looking at the running backs
right now ese I mean could audri ese
kind of seems like he could fit the mold
of a hard ball type of back that’s fair
I mean that’s a that’s a dirty yards
tough you know between the tackles type
of Runner right there that could make
some
sense look at mine as well anything else
we got highest player left on y’all’s
boards me it’s Spencer Rattler and then
Austin Booker I it’s it’s ikenberg for
me the linebacker for from Ohio State
what y’all got Van pran van pran for me
I took camart Corner out of Notre Dame
all right nope I messed it up DJ James
is my highest left gotcha cam har Notre
D May got cam I got cam hard if
somebody’s interested in talking about
yeah go for it let me think if I get to
my quarterbacks here good old cam Hart I
felt like I looked at a million
cornerbacks for some silly reason there
are a million of them but I did them all
uh come on Brian uh cam Hart uh he’ll
line up on both sides of the formation
he’s got excellent length he’s 63 he’s
202 uh smooth control backpedal he’ll
come forward when he reads the play
would like to see him drive on the ball
a little better at times link helps him
play the ball underneath not afraid to
mix it up as a tackler was a captain for
the Irish he wor he wears a shoulder
harness on his left shoulder the
majority of the season that’s something
that might needed to be checked that
maybe he has somewhat of a little bit of
a shoulder problem but uh you know
obviously the the Chargers think that
he’s okay he doesn’t always find the
ball right away he tends to clutch grab
hold when dealing with receivers I
didn’t see him get called for it but it
could be a problem in the league his
time speed is good but his playing speed
might lack a little Pace when running
shoulder toosh shoulder with receivers I
felt like too often receivers were able
to get even and separate from him so
that kind of a buildup the speed type of
player yeah converted wide receiver
there uh cam Hart and and that’s why I
think you see him do a good job like he
kind of understands the route running
yeah I think he he makes you uh I think
we got to see on the Senior Bowl uh even
so is that if you have a whole bunch of
wasted movement if you’re false stepping
he’s going to make you pay and he’s able
to stay with people so yeah and he’s
hard to like I I said that as well he’s
hard to Fool in route as well so uh also
too you know we value a corner comes up
in tackles and he’s not afraid to come
up in tackle as well but I did notice
the shoulder thing Brian yeah so that is
something to look into he’s a
goodlooking player though I mean that’ss
the part he certainly confident very
confident player but yeah that shoulder
harness I was kind of like oh no was my
corner dealing with the the Chargers
took him yeah Chargers got him all right
now the bills are on the clock here the
bills have kind of had a good little
draft too right they have four picks in
this round so okay make a lot of well
this time next year the Cowboys are
might be doing the same thing yeah yeah
Cowboys are going to be loaded up in the
fth they have had a good draft Keon
Coleman Cole Bishop the safety out of
Utah Dwayne Carter the defensive tackle
out of Duke and then Ray Davis running
back out of Kentucky which really kind
of hurt our souls a little bit a little
bit but here’s uh here’s their pick in
the fifth round sixth overall pick of
the fifth round 141 overall you think
they may be look at another receiver
because there’s still some really good
ones I mean Brendan rice um Malik
Washington is out there seus if they
want another big bodied
receiver I wonder where Buffalo ends up
going uh with this pick I would have to
think they they take another receiver
with one of these four so like they’ve
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selection oh van pran wow love
this they did they they they released
Mitch Morris and here they go with
Cedric vanran who you talk size 64 298
you know van pran’s another guy was
interesting and a couple of these
centers are sliding but van pran was one
I thought like third round he’d probably
go top Center Prospect in the nation
coming out of high school three-year
starter at Georgia back-to-back National
Champion had a third there’s times I
think the the knock on him he could get
stood up at the point of attack but he
doesn’t get knocked back like he will
get stood up but he maintains his ground
you don’t see him get pushed back into
the lap of the quarterback much he can
lunge a little bit he can play a little
T heavy from what I saw not as fast to
get to the second level some other
centers in this class but he will knock
you in the ground like he’s got some
really viciousness to his game this is
really good value for the bills out of
Warren East High School there in New
Orleans as you mentioned the highest
ranked Center in his recruiting class
and it’s tough to find true centers out
of the high school ranks typically those
are converted guards that you see in in
those power five ranks that uh you see
man in the interior there but he was a
true center from day one and yeah you
see that that M that m
mentality that he has the aggressiveness
the cerebral part was a big part of uh
what teams really liked about him
meeting with him at the combine you can
you can sense that just in a short
conversation with him he takes his
business very seriously uh he comes from
a really good family where that was very
much uh instituted in him and that war
an East program if you’re ever around
that it’s like it’s run like a military
at times too so they they keep uh those
kids that come out of that program they
have very similar character traits and
Cedric vran Granger he’s going to be the
next one he’s going to be a great fit up
in Buffalo too
okay now we got the Colts on the clock
that pick is in is we’re moving fast and
furious right
now sitting about 32 picks out from from
the Cowboys
slot who have the Colts uh you have
anybody have the Colts uh who they’ve
drafted here so I how about the rant
that the that Chris Ballard went on
about that that that the Mitchell
everybody talking about you know the the
rumor of Mitchell and he’s a bad kid and
all that stuff like that and he was
basically calling out the media like put
your name on that this is a this is a
fun draft class so far Lal to latu they
got the first defensive player in the
entire draft Adonai Mitchell in the
second round as you mentioned Brian Matt
Gonzalez The Tackle out of Pittsburgh
that Dallas had in for a 30 visit then
Tanner bortolini the center out of
Wisconsin so okay um yeah they could go
a different couple different directions
here I wonder I wonder if running back
is a thought you know with Jonathan
Taylor um you know they they’ve had a
weird we relationship with him over the
course of the last couple of Seasons
yeah it’s been really really bizarre
there with Jonathan Taylor out building
they could stand a corner and I mean
there’s corners on the board there are
some Corners still available I mean how
about King from Penn State I like him a
lot and I know again here’s another guy
that didn’t run a great time you know
trust me I could have gone to State
College and got him at 38 yards and we’d
all been happy the tape is the tape is
good on the player you know you watch
him the toughness he plays with the
coverability
I don’t see people running away from him
I mean I see the physicality he plays
with I think he’s a smart kid the
football intelligence and all that uh
yeah he’s four six guy right now and and
teams around the league really don’t
like
that yeah I mean Abram drain still there
DJ James from Auburn are we surprised
about the ab drain AB drain is a medical
he was flagged Right medical and smaller
guy Weight Wise I had a fifth on him
before I knew about the Medicals and it
was just cuz of the size aspect and uh I
I felt like he got turned around way too
often I kind of feel like there’s a
couple of linebackers I know you guys
don’t like Tommy ikenberg from Ohio
State I do like ikenberg as much as I do
Trotter is another one I would surely
consider 2024 NFL draft the Indianapolis
coach select Anthony gold wide receiver
Oregon State there you go Anthony gold
there’s some speed speed speed Bobby you
were a big Anthony gold guy weren’t you
I think Aisha was too yeah I I mean I I
liked Anthony gold more than I guess you
know everybody else did CU I remember
right after I had seen him I was like
man he’s really impressive I knew that
he was at at Shrine he’s obviously a
smaller guy but I remember I talked to a
couple different people and I was like
hey where do you think Anthony gold goes
and there’s a lot of people going like I
don’t know like six sth like like that
kind of area but I mean I I think that
you’re talking about really topend speed
uh a guy who who knows how to use Pace
in his routes uh tough like like he
plays bigger than he is uh to me I I
think that he’s a a really good fit I
think he could project eventually as a
starting slot receiver um but he he’s
really impressive to me I I like him a
lot but I understand there’s always
questions when we talking about
receivers who are you know 5’8 there’s
just questions about how much they can
contribute uh consistently for you I
agree um and then also too uh he just
plays very under control from what I saw
and um the return ability with these
rule changes and stuff like that has a
lot of value these days as well so but I
think Bobby broke him down pretty good
Colts uh class Liu latu Adonai Mitchell
Matt gon Calis the offensive tackle from
Pittsburgh Tanner bortolini the Center
from Wisconsin now Anthony G wi receiv
receiv from Oregon State come on Oregon
solid solid class here Atlanta who’s had
probably the most uh bizarre intriguing
unique it’s either it’s either going to
be praised is one of the greatest ones
ever to go down in NFL history or
they’re going to have to wear it yeah
yeah you know and and seriously that I
don’t honestly I I’m one of these
weirdos I understand the Michael pennick
pick I really do I mean I know yeah it
looks like you didn’t communicate yeah
it looks like you don’t have a plan but
sometimes you’re thinking like okay if
maybe this quarterback you know when you
when you talk about you know the veteran
with cousins maybe you get it back on
track maybe you get back on track and
then now the team is built to the point
where you’re not picking up there that
high and you’re going to never you know
you never know when you’re going to have
that opportunity to grab a quarterback
you know the most we always talk about
the best ones seem to be the ones at the
top of the board maybe the Falcons that
was a top 10 defense last year was but
they didn’t do anything offensively May
why sign cousins why sign him though if
that if you you know may maybe maybe the
situation the evaluation that they did
not have a penic maybe they didn’t have
the opportunity to meet with him maybe
they didn’t have the opportunity to
really study him like they needed to I
think it I think to me yes it’s $100
million yes is that an expensive Bridge
yep it absolutely is but maybe it gets
you back on track to winning football
games and winning the NFC South sure and
and then now your team is built in the
right way and going in the right way
where a quarterback could step in and be
that guy I’m just trying to be no no I I
I get it but would you have been would
you have been dumbfounded if at pick
24 let’s say heading in the draft the
Cowboys had finished a three or foure
extension with Dak and then even after
the extension signed they pick penx at
24 wouldn’t that be wouldn’t you be like
what are we doing no I I I I I
understand what you’re saying there I do
I just think that I think the end for
cousins is closer you know I think
cousins is a two-year deal that’s what I
think I think it’s you know pennx just
seems like a quarterback who needs to
play now though to me well the problem
is all these quarterbacks we’ve seen the
train wreck that’s been quarterbacks
played now Fields Wilson I mean these
team and I think the Falcons are good
enough stoud well yeah shoud I think to
me I think that the I think that Houston
is a better I think they’re a better
football team than the like with the
Jets and the ones I mean the Bears I
just think Houston was has got better
Herbert Herbert like we’ve seen more
examples of guys Ste and next to me is
tiany Falcons flag team stutgart to
announce the pick with the 143rd pick in
the
2024 NFL draft the Atlanta Falcon select
JD band linebacker n Dame I like this
kid a lot okay JT bertran from Notre
Dame will break him down we also talk
more about this Falcons draft I think
that’s interesting is we wait on this
Cowboys pick to come up we’re now
sitting at pick 144 Cowboys do up at
174 and uh we’re getting closer and
closer you’re listening to the 2024 NFL
draft to 1053 The Fan in
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all right JT Bertrand out of Notre Dame
yeah and I I actually had him just above
the linebacker from Notre Dame that the
Cowboys took and I I you know I I this
this kid to me the thing that’s super
impressive about him is the way that he
both these Notre Dame linebackers get to
the football and this guy’s one of the
quickest readers of line of Lineback
when you talk about readers he is the
quickest one in s study of seeing what’s
going on in front of it and then process
the information and then go he’s a quick
trigger downhill player he’s very good
tackler whether it’s in space or filling
the Gap he’s instinctive he’ll beat the
blocker uh to the ball he’s at the right
place at the right time when the ball is
run he has a better chance of making
plays on the Move though I think he’s
one of these guys he’s 61 he’s 235 but
you kind of need him to to be on on on
the on the move a little bit but it’s
the coverage he has speed to carry the
running backs and tight ends he does a
nice job being position throughout the
route he played a lot more coverage
snaps than he did pass rush snaps but I
felt like he was a better somewhat of a
better Blitzer when they let him do that
then really a cover guy 60 pressure yeah
he’s excellent communication I know
iisha likes to point that out about your
linebackers the pre-nap stuff letting
his teammates know what’s going on
fundamental player he lacks a little
athletic ability but is but his ability
to read the smarts the toughness are
impressive he is rarely fooled on a play
Nothing flashy but pretty consistent in
the way he plays overall JD bertran
61235 out of Notre Dame yeah fiveyear
player um two-time team captain yeah uh
Brian mentioned the blitz ability 60
pressures five and a half sacks um he
has awareness and Zone coverage as well
he’s not super duper lengthy yeah um but
he does have a closing speed to him as
as well so no fiveyear uh player like I
said so I think that’s where some of the
IQ comes in right I just think
linebacker is such a is a position that
over time you get better and that’s how
it works Austin Booker to the Bears it’s
fun pick for
them very fun pick so Austin Booker
finally off the board there Chicago own
that wait Buffalo got that pick from
Chicago and then Chicago got it back
yeah is that how that worked on that one
um yeah how did that go let’s see those
things sometimes are hard to track I
know yeah from Chicago through Buffalo
okay so yeah anybody want to talk about
Booker I mean yeah ver I love Booker not
veral athletic off the edge but not a
ton of experience really only had that
one season at Kansas he red shirted when
he got there and uh needed a little bit
of time to develop but once he was able
to touch the field he had some uh he had
a really productive season last year for
The Jayhawks was a violent athletic
threat uh you saw saw him getting to the
football he’s trying to take heads off
uh it may have been the speed I wonder
if uh that that kind of concerns some
teams because you see this athletic
presence coming off the edge but then he
didn’t run great at the uh at the
combine uh but nevertheless the the
eight sacks the the forced fumbles that
he was able to force in the running game
he was he did a lot last year for uh for
the Jayhawks in my opinion he needed to
stay one more year I I kept thinking
that as I was watching him on tape I was
like man if he just stays one more year
he’s for sure a day two pick hands up
falling to the fifth we’ll see if it
works out for him I think Chicago could
be a good fit for him they need kind of
an athletic presence off that edge but
uh yeah Austin Booker I I I like what he
brings to the table uh he’s going to be
really fun in that NFC North trying to
stop the run especially with the the
running backs that are in that division
now yeah I mean you mentioned Nick that
you felt like he needed to stay an extra
year I thought that would be helpful to
him as well just because of the size and
you know that’s the thing you know
giving him another year to put on a
little bit more um functional strength
and put on a little bit more muscle yeah
the the pursuit to the balls what stands
out but go ahead I’m let you go so there
okay alrighty draft moving along nicely
here pick 145 Denver Broncos on the
clock we just uh talked about JT
Bertrand on the stream who went to the
Atlanta Falcons from Notre Dame Austin
Booker Edge player from Kansas just goes
to the Chicago Bears du Bears uh at pick
144 in the fifth round and who just I’m
sorry who just went to the Bears Austin
Booker
Austin 66 245 Nick and iisha were just
talking about him uh my notes on on
Booker who I think this is tremendous
value for him I had him great as a third
rounder transfer from Minnesota as a red
shirt sophomore long skinny build
usually has good burst off the line but
at times I think you can see him get
fatigued and that might be because he’s
a little bit skinny but he slaps his the
hands to get off blocks I love that does
a good job of going speed to power good
bull rush really good instincts in the
Run game for me plays with patience
reads where the ball’s going and he
plays to the whistle I like the play
temperament there there’s times you can
see him take over game sometimes with
his speed as a rusher off the edge but
also just living in the backfield like
the Kate tape was super impressive can
crash down the line in the Run game I
thought there was lots to like about him
one of the better Edge rushers I felt in
the class that really to me was not a
great Edge rushing group uh there were a
couple of guys that stood out but a lot
of incomplete type of players I I get
maybe being just kind of skinny and I
think Nick was it or Brian was it you
had heard some teams that kind of looked
at maybe M playing him at linebacker
even off he worked as a linebacker at
the combine but you when you don’t see
him drop when you watch no you don’t
watch him at all but they at the combine
some teams asked to work him out as a
linebacker that might be his fit no you
uh I agree I think he has he he does
Rush with a plan you see different
things that he’s able to do with his
hands um he extends his arms he stab he
can stab the The Tackle especially in
the chest and and uh take him off
balance he has a spin move that he uses
swim move that he uses you mentioned the
initial power yeah yeah he’s he’s
interesting as a pass rusher but I like
I like said I do agree that I thought
that maybe he could put on just a Tabit
more size he needs to and be able to you
know withstand but that that takes time
because a lot of These Guys these DN
seem like they’re getting drafted and
they they’re going to have to do the
same thing when when do the lack of snap
count Brian because I know that was a
problem for you with the Marius Mims
like is this round where it’s like well
you’ll you’ll feel comfortable gambling
on the lack of snaps for Booker y yeah
yeah snap snaps for Booker really quick
I’m trying to do the math really fast
5005 500 wow 15 games Abrams dra just
got yeah Chris Abrams drain 511 179
Corner out of missou that was another
name we saw linked to the Cowboys there
at least they visited with him was it at
the at the combine no they didn’t it was
a talk uh may have been an informal I
don’t the airport which anything which I
anything can be an informal really uh
but I mean hey you say hey we we meet up
with you in the hotel lobby say what’s
up but Chris Abrams drain as a slot
Corner well I mean he played outside
there but I think he can project inside
as well at the next level
he was a fun watch at aaz zo this is
Scrappy very Scrappy transfer uh he
trans transitioned from wide receiver to
DB in 2021 another one of these guys is
a red shirt freshman came out of high
school as a four-star wide receiver uh
also played quarterback his senior year
he’s asked to play off ball most of the
time there at mizou shows awareness in
zone I think he’s a fluid athlete keeps
everything in front of him now he’ll
give up some completions underneath but
he does a good job of rallying coming up
making the tackle I liked him best when
he’s up closer to the line and he can
play some bump and run because I think
he runs well can stay on that hit pocket
and mirror receivers I do think he can
get overpowered though by physical
receivers especially in the Run game not
a guy can struggle to get off blocks but
good speed uh I I I like this pick
upside player to get him here and I
think he was knocked wasn’t he for was
it a medical or was had medical yeah so
that might be why he slid Aisha what did
you think about Abram I didn’t know I
don’t know I can’t remember the
gentleman that we talking about
yesterday that we kind of were comping
into a Jay but I do think oh Sanders
still I think that Chris Abram strain
might be a little bit closer but I
thought that he’ be a fantastic
replacement for Jordan Lewis in the slot
and to be able to man that former wide
receiver a lot of the same background in
that regard willing tackler all that
stuff um just I you you mentioned just
how sticky he is and and I do think he
trust his recovery speed a little too
much he’s gonna take some chances he’ll
take a few risk um but the start start
and stop ability from him um is is is I
think it’s a elite level at this point
so I I can’t believe that he fell this
far but especially with nickel Corner
being so valuable to me in this league
um but here we are it’s the draft man
shout out to uh our loyal listeners at
first round bus just gave me the details
on that trade with the bills and the
Bears so at pick number 144 bills have
traded their pick originally acquired
from the Bears for Ryan Bates back to
the Bears bills get a 2025 fourth round
pick out of it so basically Ryan Bates
for a 2025 fourth so that pick just
swapping hands it’s interesting
appreciate uh the tolos and our and our
Cowboy fans that are watching us and
helping out there okay just went to
Tennessee Jarvis brownley Jr another
corner so back toback corner here from
Louisville going to the Tennessee Titans
uh who who wants to take on the brownley
junior train here I got it right here
hang on just a second you got go ahead
I’ll start while
you another shorter guy um that could
probably play in the nickel around 510
uh but he’s able to get into the back
field and play the running game a little
a little bit stronger than some of those
guys that you might see at that frame um
that’s what stood out to me in my
limited knowledge of Jarvis brownley but
I’ll let Brian take over from there but
Run game was what stood out yeah he’s a
transfer from Florida State he plays the
boundary corner for the Cardinals which
means he plays to the sidelines so he
gets to use the sidelines as his extra
Defender he’s using the slot he’s not
the biggest guy he’s but he has some
weight to him at 194 uh he does a nice
job of competing at the position he can
be really good when he walks up on the
receiver he plays that man coverage he’s
best when he can play that tight press
coverage I don’t really know how well he
runs Notre Dame sent a receiver out on a
slot that ended up being a touchdown
that he didn’t catch up very well too
but I do think he’s got quick feet I do
think he he’s got some change of
Direction his play I think he’s more
more than willing to step up and make a
play on the ball when it comes to
tackling he’s not afraid to mix it up
he’s very good feet to mirror uh on the
outside and stay with the receiver in
the short and intermediate areas of the
field and I do like this kid’s Instinct
his lack of speed might be to me his
biggest concern Yeah you mentioned the
the competitive toughness though with
brownley and like that’s something that
really popped for me like there’s an
edge there’s a nastiness there’s there’s
a physicality there I also wonder Brian
like you know you talk about some of the
speed issues I think that also results
in some grabbin yes um where he he’s
trying to recover not let guys Blow by
him but I mean look I think you’re
talking about fifth round 510 but I
think he plays a little longer than that
um he he’s got decent arm length for you
know relative to his height but I think
that brownley here you know middle of
the fifth round or wherever we’re at I I
don’t hate that pick at all me either uh
I think that at this point in the draft
as well uh very intriguing selection
there for Jarvis brownley Jr what do you
got I’m laughing at what I wrote I said
what you what you right I said he’s not
afraid to tackle in fact he’s trying to
hurt you he is very matter of fact okay
right would would and I I wonder you
know if running back is not in
consideration here you know 147 is the
pick we’re on now we’re getting closer
to the Cowboys selection at
174 well think about what all the scouts
talked about you know think about the
the type of person you know we don’t
have that op opportunity but think about
the guys that the traits the guys that
might have you know the the speed the
guy that might have the quickness the
guy that might have the length the guy I
mean give me give me Tracy of the guys
that are if you’re talking about if
you’re talking about going out and
getting there goes audri Ese and I like
audri estim but I don’t believe I mean
he’s not a guy that’s going to give you
a lot of juice so I don’t think you know
with that description he was really in
play as a cowboy consideration that
offense in Denver just one big bucket of
mid you got that that’s that’s how I
feel about it your description of the
mid the most mid quarterback room in the
history of the NFL it’s not bad it’s
just pretty
great it is though it’s kind of but
there’s another running back off the
board I’ll let Sean know you think that
about it I’m just kidding audri ese at a
Notre Dame I do like audri ese though I
mean he he’s he’s the perfect size uh
wellb built strong lower body he’s a
weaving style of Runner you know he’s
he’s got some jump Cuts goes right then
darts left to avoid Defenders initial
quickness and burst uh you know in the
open field he does have a little bit of
a second gear but he is a guy that can
get chased down from behind there’s no
question about that North and South type
player you know he he’s a guy that he’s
not going to make something out of
nothing most much like when we talked
about with Bo Allen right he can roll
off a lineman uh now ball security to me
might be an issue because when I was
watching him against Navy he did cough
one up ball gets punched out from behind
but but he’s tough to bring down man
when he gets moving with a full head
esteem downhill oh yeah I mean I said
holy strong legs that’s where he finds a
lot of his power from it’s just how
strong his legs are and his stature
stands out to you because even though
he’s not super tall you you see how
strong he is and again similar to
brillan Allen in that sense of um yeah
it’s he’s difficult to to tackle because
of the strength and power who what
happened Tommy ikenberg Ohio State
linebacker going to the Las Vegas
Raiders we’ll tell you more about Tommy
I ber uh and the Bengals pick which is
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what about
like I mean I don’t know if they would
dip
into linebacker again oh I think I think
there’s a good chance we’re just going
to look at who’s the best player left
because I mean this okay the board just
looks to me right now just kind of
scanning it it looks very jumbled it’s
very jumbled my best player left would
be Jeremiah trod
Jr and then Hunter NORAD Brian would you
do you like Christian Jones enough to
say if Christian Jones just keeps
sliding you’ll just take
him
man I don’t know I I mean I’m now I’m
I’ve completely lost all my first second
I’ve lost all my I’ve got third round
guys left I mean guys have got like
mahogany Ford Trotter those those are
guys I have left fourth round guys you
know I’m still holding in there pretty
good at at all positions I’ve got a lot
more edges in the fourth round I
mentioned Caesar from Houston Gabe
Murphy from
UCLA Jackson Kamar you know Watson the
linebacker you know King Newton mlin mln
I I’ve got some Corners there uh I’ve
got a safety in Hampton got a lot of
wide receivers though too we talk
about Washington from Virginia right
jari thrash isaah Williams yeah so I
don’t know I’m kind of kayn Carson Wake
Forest that’s kind of glaring to me I I
love that guy I got a fourth round grade
on
him I think they did talk with him too
yeah they did they had a formal with him
at the uh at the combine that wouldn’t
be a bad pick yeah I mean names that
just kind of stand out that I just would
have figured would have gone by now or
gone around here just run down the
positions Spencer Rattler Michael Pratt
uh Malik Washington Taj Washington
Brendan rice uh Christian Jones yeah I
mean I could say my fourth round board I
feel like I’m hold it’s holding up but
you know I could say maai Wingo yeah
chimra Kaylin Carson yeah my third round
guys are all injured mogy Ford and
Trotter’s just probably short that’s
probably the problem with him but here
in the fifth I mean how much do you kind
of look past that it’s not just short
though he’s not he’s he’s he’s heavy
footed too I don’t agree with you on
that but you don’t think so you think
he’s fast I think I think if you watch
him play I think there’s some sideline
to sideline to him I I don’t I see the
biggest problem I think he has is
because he’s short and he’s not very
long and people get on him a little bit
but I think he could play to the outside
if he had to yeah I mean maybe get to
the outside I don’t see him as a like
you know open up the hole and fill a gap
like like I think that he I don’t that
he has the closing speed to get in there
he’ll avoid blocks I mean that’s the one
thing I think he’s got a little bit of a
feel for that but that you know I I like
I maybe maybe I’m thinking too much of
his Pops Pops was a really good player
no I mean I mean I I outside of the Duke
game I thought I thought he did I mean
the Duke game was the only game where it
was like man this guy doesn’t look he
looks like a shell of himself and I
think it was an outlier type of
performance yeah uh ikenberg though is a
good pick for the Raiders I there
there’s something happened there and I
maybe I was way way too high I saw a
really good I mean I did see a sideline
to sideline guy he suffers he suffers
because the just the way the position is
kind of going away from kind of the
build that he’s like your old school
linebacker he is and and it’s it’s j
Newton yeah it’s kind of crappy but it’s
I think why he’s suff in that way he
dropped the way he did yeah Josh Newton
was somebody that came to the Cowboys
for a pre-draft visit um one of the one
of the more fun guys I got talk Dall day
guy or yeah so he was a uh he’s a native
of Monroe Louisiana AKA fune um went
started at UL Monroe and then
transitioned his way to TCU just in time
for that National Championship run and
man TCU has put out so many good Corners
over the course of the last decade and
and guys that were super productive at
the college level and that has
transitioned past the Gary Patterson era
now into the Sunny Dykes ERA with Josh
Newton and uh a lock down guy he plays
for his family back home he had a cousin
who took his own life he’s very open
about that uh Journey that he’s kind of
had to go through with his family and
he’s very he’s very much looking forward
to getting that NFL contract and being
able to take care of his family that was
something that we talked about quite a
bit during his pre-draft visit but great
kid Great Character he was uh he was the
only one that hugged me during the uh
pre-draft visits he just came in and
gave everybody a hug we’re like all
right man come on let’s go but yeah fun
R zone let’s look at what he can bring
as a player he could play off a little
bit he could play press he was able to
cover Travis Hunter a little bit in that
first game last season uh against
Colorado and I’ll let Zack take take us
out a break here
that’s a
mistake all right uh we’ve had a couple
of picks flying off the board here um
and some good picks I mean Tommy
ikenberg the most recent one to the
Raiders right before we went to break
Raiders having a quietly good draft here
Brock Bowers Jack pow Johnson Delmar
glaze the offensive tackle from Maryland
de Camry and Richardson the corner from
Mississippi State and then now Tommy
ikenberg from Ohio State three-year
starter two-time team captain uh smart
instinctive player really physical that
rallies to the football I know you like
ikenberg Brian quite a bit yeah I did I
had him really high on my board I this
kid has a nose for the football he’s in
attack mode right off the Jump uh plays
right at him he can carry the edge I
think he’s instinctive I think he can
read I think he can react I think he’s
played like he shot out of a cannon a
couple of times there the way how fast
he can read it and go he’ll make his sh
plays in space uh he puts on a clinic on
how to tackle I mean there’s he’s like a
form tackling machine when it comes to
that he was a wrap-up player the
technique the Finish movement allows him
I think to play well in coverage I’ve
seen him carry routes I’ve seen him drop
in zone uh I’ve seen him have a feel for
how to you know work through gaps
creases and all that to make a tackle in
the running game or get after the
quarterback he’d be very disruptive in
the way he play
what where did Demar glaz go third round
the Raiders yeah oh he’s been gone oh
wow okay here we go Spencer Rattler to
the Saints and the Saints needed a
quarterback uh they didn’t end up
getting one of those guys early we
thought maybe they’d be in play for a b
Knicks if you were to slide there Josh
Newton by the way the cornerback in TCU
went to the Bengals right before but
here’s Spencer Rattler goes 150 overall
in the fifth round his job was taken
away at Oklahoma by Caleb Williams
during the Texas game at about halftime
Caleb Williams comes in never gave the
job back up for the rest of the year
then Spencer Rattler transfers to South
Carolina funny enough then Caleb
Williams left with Lincoln Riley to go
to USC but the talent’s always been
there with Rattler I mean there was a
time Rattler coming out was predicted to
be a top 10 high first round pick number
one overall even I think with him at
Oklahoma it was he was easily rattled
under pressure makes and at South
Carolina I think you’ve seen flashes of
really good play but it it’s very
inconsistent at times I do think he
improved and was a better player at
South Carolina than what he was at
Oklahoma I thought that some team would
take a flyer on the talent and upside
here but for the Saints I mean this
makes sense somewhere Michael Pratt from
tlane is now is now wearing a chip on
his shoulder yeah I would have rather
taken Pratt than rler I I would have
rather had Pratt than rler myself
especially to stay in New Orleans yeah
exactly that that to me that and and
nothing against Spencer Rattler but I
think there’s just he is wildly
inconsistent and as a quarterback I
can’t have my guy being the the player
of the game and then the next day being
the player of the game for everyone for
the other team and I think he’s got a
little of that to him not for the other
team Brian yeah I wouldn’t expect him
say I mean he he is inconsistent he is
smaller he has you know he was somebody
at okoklahoma
who at times was considered a little bit
of a Mal content um and so I mean there
there are a lot of questions around
titled yeah I I mean look there’s a lot
about him that is intriguing um you know
I I think that he’s done a really good
job in the last couple years since
Oklahoma to really steady his foot
mechanics and everything kind of working
from the waist stop everything’s a lot
more fluid than it once was I I in an
era when we talk about trying to push
the ball down field and things like that
I’m not overly impressed with the way he
throws the Deep ball I I I just I think
it look it it flutters at times and and
to me I just I I don’t know if the the
snaps always there on his throws yeah
and I think that’s a mechanic issue I I
think sometimes his mechanics are just
off yeah he throws off base a lot and
things like that and that’s going to
that’s going to be hard on you depending
on how you generate power um from your
hips um yeah I mean you mentioned the
fact that like you didn’t like the the
Deep ball from him I do think that he
has a he has a quick release and he some
of the the arm can be powerful but like
you guys said the the lower half of his
mechanics really throw off a lot of what
he does he gets undisciplined when he’s
trying to make plays um yeah man he goes
back too he will he’s one of those guys
who he’ll he’ll will you you’ll see him
take a step back Rush starts coming and
you’re like why are you 20 yards from
the line of scrimmage right now yes 100%
he must had an awful offensive line at
some point in his development that’s
it’s typically something you see with
these young quarterbacks and it’s just
like it’s it’s just like a little bounce
it’s like he just bounces and drifts
it’s like how did you it’s like you know
the kid who’s in the pool and it’s like
how did you just float into the 10 ft
water get back here like before you know
it it’s almost like that was me that was
me as the kid he also I mean as a
quarterback you you can’t be a a poor
teammate and he was in the early stages
of his career I did not hear good things
about him at Oklahoma I do think that he
matured quite a bit and grew as a person
in South Carolina so that that might
have improved so once he he separated
from the the Lincoln Riley system yeah
uh interesting why why you taking Strays
on Lincoln riy it’s just I I find it
fascinating some of the questions that
have have existed about quarterbacks who
have spent time in Lincoln Riley’s
program Baker Mayfield Kyler Murray
Caleb Williams Spencer Rattler they’ve
had six players drafted Philadelphia on
the clock I mean hey they they won a
cotton bow this year that was a talented
Team all right Philadelphia on the clock
here at2 first of four pick you know
what the Eagles are going to do here and
I don’t know this I’m just going to
throw I am not excited they should take
Jeremiah trod
Jr that’d be that would be I would
wouldn’t that be nice that would be nice
that would make sense I think he’s
arguably the best player on the board
right now for me Philadelphia in like
their back seven weren’t great last year
they need their linebackers aren’t good
their line their linebackers and their
secondary wasn’t good they’ve addressed
the secondary with two picks already
quarterback isn’t good either Jil maybe
take
Pratt did they they could take PR who’s
their backup they lost Mar what do you
think they’re going to at Center I mean
are they they like uh they like um the
guy who came out of Nebraska a couple
years ago small cam Jurgens Jurgens oh
he’s going to be that guy Jay uh Jaylen
carli’s went out of missou to the Colts
the safety just to reiterate that I I
mean we’re still we’re still waiting on
the Cowboys here we’re getting closer
though I mean we’re within shooting
distance we’re within strik got some
still got some good wide receivers on
the board I got a good tight end in Bell
I don’t know if you want to do that
Christian Jones The Tackle uh I don’t
know if you want to do that uh We’ve you
know NORAD the center we me I’ve
mentioned him and then my my edges I
think are holding up all right too I me
you know Caesar Murphy Jackson Kamar I
mean I I feel like I can pick a guy here
I mean if if like Scott McCurley told us
he hoped to get another linebacker today
I mean there’s still there Watson jerem
tro Curtis Jacobs James Williams
Nathaniel Watson Jacobs is the highest
one I have left
of the linebackers yeah Jacob trod or
Watson for I mean Watson Watson Watson
and Hunter were guys that they showed
some interest in you told me Ford is a
medical guy Ford has some medical stuff
apparently for some Ford could have been
a down guy he was yeah I mean so I’m
sure that they’ve I I think Jaylen Ford
would be a great pick he was one of the
last ones to come in for a for a visit
and I got to catch up with him more in
depth at the Texas pro day and uh yeah
he would love to be able to stay here in
Frisco and play his NFL ball played High
School at Frisco Lone Star High School
um practiced at the star played at the
star so yeah it’s it’s definitely that
would be a fun pick has has no one
touched uh your guy um Ola fashion uh
Ean Osio yeah out of Washington he’s
still available on the board he’s my
10th overall linebacker still and he’s
still available I still I would argue
for Kaylin Carson here I would like that
pick I think that’s a good player that
cornerback I like Carson uh I mean
troter junor would be my top
linebacker there’s an interesting I what
about Malik Washington out of Virginia
yeah man that would be I mean I’ll tell
you what they need some speed he
transferred right to Virginia he he was
he was a TR I believe he his one year
that he was at Virginia was huge that’s
how he’s gotten drafted or that’s how
he’s well yeah he’s trying to from
Northwestern yeah he was at Northwestern
he went to Virginia and he blew it up at
Virginia yeah I like uh rice Jerry Rice
R’s kid brenon rice a little bit better
out of USC if you gave me choices but
they’re both right there for me tags
touching at wide receivers Brendon rice
is actually in the area just about to
mention that did you see that man it’s
that’s a sad deal I saw this from Ian
raport I guess Nick you saw it too but
uh he flew into Dallas to be a Paul Bear
and give the obituary speech at his best
friend Keith Miller’s funeral today oh
bar so he passed away two weeks ago his
buddy did and I guess he’ll be answering
his draft call probably either from the
funeral or post F but I mean that’s you
know heart your heart goes out to that
situation there with Brendan
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draft the Philadelphia Eagle select and
Nia Smith wide receiver from Texas
University I like uh Smith from A&M
that’s that’s a slot receiver honestly
you talk about struggling with bad
quarterback play he’s going to have that
now he uh yeah he he he dealt with that
at Texas A&M quite a bit but that guy he
owns a 36 game consec streak with a
catch yeah he’s he’s really productive
out of the slot for them you go ask Nick
eatman upstairs about how he feels about
anas Smith because he was the Arkansas
killer at AT&T Stadium throughout his
career uh as as an Aggie but uh yeah as
you mentioned he dealt with a lot of
quarterback turmoil during his time in
College Station whether it be uh guys
transferring guys not panning out them
starting different guys injuries I I
think he probably played with six or
seven different quarterbacks at some
point in time but uh it’s it’s the
special team’s returnability as well I
think him and Anthony gold and uh uh
Tulu Griffin out of Mississippi State
wherever he ends up I think those three
are probably going to compete for an all
rookie return team but uh yeah out of
Fort bendas in Missouri City Texas and
he made his way just north to uh Texas
A&M and College Station but yeah he was
super productive for them throughout his
time there a First Team all in his final
season five-year starter uh this was Guy
a guy whenever he was coming out of high
school that maybe some would have
expected to be a three-year guy but he
really just honed in on his craft as an
Aggie probably could have come out last
year and been around the same uh draft
stock but nevertheless he ends up around
the same spot in a really good spot I
think in in in uh in Philly so Smith and
Smith Devonte and anas there in the slot
for for the Eagles there you go I I did
not watch him but I do know that what’s
interesting about him there’s some
people who project him as just like
weapon like that they they they think he
should be like I know one team I talked
to said they thought of him as more of a
scatback and they would actually if they
had picked him they would have used him
in the back field a lot he made some
sharp that’s what I was going to say I
mean he’s he’s a former running back you
see that some of the decisions he makes
in the open field and how he’s able to
turn up field use his vision as well um
very tough noosed player uh like you
said and I also feel like he is willing
to block despite his size as well he’ll
throw his little body around out
there okay so we’ve got anas Smith uh
who ends up going to the Eagles Eagles
draft right now you got quinan Mitchell
out of Toledo Cooper de jeene out of
Iowa jayx hunt The Edge from Houston
Christian will ship the running back
from Clemson and now and ni Smith the
wide receiver from ANL it’s a pretty
good haul for it’s pretty fun those
first three picks I’d stack up with any
other team right now oh man that’s uh
you hate to see it all right we’re at
pick
153 we are waiting on the Cowboys to get
back on the clock uh they will be
picking here what in about 20 picks or
so uh for the Cowboys to get on the
clock here so waiting on that and we’ve
been talking about the board obviously
we we were eyeing running backs there
was a run on running backs that happens
so now I mean the only guy that I think
you’d have to maybe take because I’m
just not sure where he’d go would be
Tyrone Tracy Jr I think that’s the guy
where I think other teams would be
intrigued converted wide receiver to
running back otherwise like I think
Frank G JR could hang around like shider
from Missouri I’m not a huge fan Cody
yeah Cody Shader I’m not a huge fan but
I I I respect a story former walkon went
to Missouri and was and Russian right
yeah yeah he’s just I don’t think he
brings anything to the NFL level I think
he’s a great col back I don’t think he
brings anything to the NFL there’s not
Breakaway speed there’s not a ton of
receiving ability in my end there but um
I I could see a team swinging on him for
depth competition yeah yeah for this
team talking about juice shider I don’t
think Sher doesn’t bring the juice well
then what’s Isaiah Davis what does he do
yeah that’s that’s my guy that’s that’s
my guy in Juice yeah yeah yeah
absolutely 6′ 6’2 220 PBS and these long
strides out in the open field that can
really make it work brenon Jackson just
went to the Rams okay Brendan Jackson
Another Edge from Washington State good
player too and you know the Rams have
done a great job of hitting on some I
think it was Byron young they took out
of Tennessee around this time last year
get off for him was fantastic Brennan
Jackson what do you guys think about him
at a Washington state yeah one of the
better available edges uh in my opinion
um and the Eagles trading back up looks
like they’re about to take another pick
here but are you Ser yeah Brennan
Jackson I I I liked what he did in the
Run game specifically but he can get
after the passer man uh up at walloo and
that poor program that’s to be left in
purgatory for a little bit uh with the
Pack 12 disass amila but um getting
after the passer his combination between
getting after the passer and attacking
the Run game I think it’s one of the
more complete edges in the draft but
there’s not a ton of upside there that’s
why I think maybe he slipped so far as
he did uh but yeah you see the 6 fo3 264
pounds he’s got some athleticism off the
edge but uh maybe needs to work on his
get off a little bit more that was
something that I remember taking away
and then uh active hands as well but
nevertheless I I think he’s a high floor
guy that can make a roster I agree with
you uh when you watch him the 264 the
frame he seems filled out already he
kind of seemed like he’s he’s in his
grown man body so maybe what he is right
now as far as size and explosiveness and
stuff like that are what he’s going to
be unless he shes up a little bit more
technique things so I agree with you he
creates some turnovers now oh yeah he
gets his hands in
passing very active yeah when all of a
sudden like he’s knocking down balls
he’s also one of those guys when it’s
like a fumble like he can create fumbles
and things like that in the pocket he
was a nightmare for col colado they just
couldn’t block him in that game that I
watched okay Eagles are about to have
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what’s over there we’re done with pton
now no we got one more 11 minute segment
with pton and then we’ll be done I got
to run to the bathroom real all right
yeah so we keep it going going here got
got
it yeah no go ahead we’re on go ahead
okay yeah yeah um yeah Philly moving up
here I wonder if they’re giving up one
of their picks
potentially um that they still have left
here in the uh what is what is this guy
doing like I I don’t know what he’s
saying but like no pick 155 should never
take 20 minutes to an out the
Indianapolis Colts have traded the
155th pick to the Philadelphia Eagles
this pick got traded five times by the
way with the 155th pick in the 2024 NFL
draft the Philadelphia Eagles select
Jeremiah Trower Jr linebacker was you
call it Bri there you go was it you that
called it Brian that that they uh they
need to take Jeremiah Sher and good for
him uh uh I drafted his dad in uh in the
in the 1998 draft third round pick one
of four pro bowlers he drafted in that
draft by the way he uh his dad was a dad
was from Stephen F Austin yeah is and a
a fascinating player uh and he was had a
little bit of an injury history we
picked him in the third round and uh
just an incredible tough guy and uh you
know it’s funny when his son you see all
these Sons now that play in the league
and all his the junior yeah it’s not as
big as his dad but man I have so much
love for his father and what he came in
and did for the Philadelphia Eagles I
know it was against us with the Cowboys
and stuff like that I I couldn’t be more
happy I’m happy for the kid I’m more
happy for the dad cu the dad has had a
great career a great career with the
Philadelphia Eagles and for the fact now
that he can see his son potentially play
for a team that he played for what a
what a great opportunity for him yeah it
spent most of his time at least in high
school in the pennslvania area went to
St Joseph’s prep which is one of the
better programs up there in Philly and
now he’ll be able to stay home in Philly
I bet he was a local guy for them and
they were able to do a lot of research
on him throughout the draft process so
yeah Zack you missed it tro to the
Eagles he called it somebody has a
crystal ball in this room what can I say
what can I say so was it you that called
it what can I say okay it was that
called it uh now I I said it a couple of
Pixie I was like you know what they
should just take Jeremiah troter Jr I’m
not happy about it just actually caught
up with Nick eatman in the bathroom I
was like oh Nick we were just talking
about you that very weird mention Nia
Smith uh he goes yeah bleep that guy
it’s like I figured like you ran into
him or you scheduled to meet with him no
I saw him our clocks just kind of met up
and clocks huh yeah I uh we both the
more they’re around each other ended up
going to the bathroom at the same time
been something in health class about
that do y’all understand that I am right
the more they’re around each other where
Jesus whatever
dude it it is kind of is that weird I’m
happy Weir the TV there there’s one
bathroom nearby I don’t know it’s just
it sounded weird coming out of your
mouth I just seen him in the it’s not
weird as a fact it’s weird in the way
you said it okay were Jeremiah troter
junr going to the Eagles did you guys
break it down or upset I’m upset yeah I
could talk about the young man here as
we as we speak uh your notes on him are
terrible why don’t you tell us from the
bathroom Brian yeah see if like meet
Nick eatman got a wireless beam exactly
Jeremiah troter uh like I said I drafted
his father in 1998 when I was with the
Eagles I I like his dad he he plays with
fire and passion for his game he’s super
competitive in the way he moves to the
ball he’s not as big as his dad but he’s
super tough in the way he closes to the
ball uh he’s not going to get get out
work to get to a play I love the speed I
love the burst uh I think he does a good
job of getting in position in order in
making a play uh sometimes he’ll go a
little low for the tackle because he’s
six foot he’s 228 pounds uh but he
understands the drops where he needs to
be in coverage uh he needs to where he
needs to be in order to prevent the pass
uh he will uh he will uh he will
undercut routes in order to knock the
ball down he shows a burst to drive on
the ball he’s brings some pop as a
tackler but uh I’ve seen I’ve seen U you
know I’ve seen him take on ball carriers
right at the sticks and den deny their
progress his lack of height might not be
for everybody but he gets your attention
on tape uh he’s he’s got a little of
some traits of Nick Bolton from Kansas
City that I thought just some traits and
uh but he’s outstanding player I felt
like he got better each week that he
played during the season so good for
Jeremiah troter senior and now Junior
yeah I wanted to add very very very very
quickly I thought some of the things he
was able to do in coverage was were good
as well I um and also too with
linebackers DBS these guys we it’s the
running joke that these guys don’t catch
the ball no no like if the ball’s in the
air sometimes he’ll snatch that thing
out the air and and you know get
interceptions turnovers in that way as
well so yeah got to see him twice a year
now
oh
baby pick 156 is in by the Cleveland
Browns in the fifth round who will they
be taking Zack walchuk alongside Bobby
belt we’ve got Nick Harris we’ve got
Aisha Morrison of dallascowboys.com and
of course my partner in crime on the gag
Nation the Super Bowl champion Scout
Brian brus the man himself the father of
the draft show along with Ed K Hills
shout out to you sir and the Browns
selecting Jamari thrash wide receiver
from Louisville very very good player to
get at this time in the draft 511 188 do
need to go back while you were away uh
it ended up being um the linebacker
Jeremiah trod Jr who ended up being
selected by the Philadelphia Eagles so
his dad played there uh was drafted by
you Brian yep and and like I said said
earlier very excited for uh Jeremiah
senior his dad was a hell of a player uh
the young his son is a shorter uh player
not as big as his dad was but the same
type of mentality the toughness the you
know the physicality you want to play
with uh man I I I’m really happy for
like I said for senior that he’s going
to get to see his son play at the at the
at the uh the team that he was uh that
he was famous for and uh so a good get
Philadelphia traded this pick got back
to the spot to be able to grab this guy
maybe felt like that somebody down the
board was a little bit closer to
grabbing him and they had to go make
this happen all right the Carolina
Panthers on the clock who did Cleveland
just take then Jamari thr oh that’s
right I’m sorry in my opinion one of the
smoothest route runners in his entire
draft class Jamari thrash and also if
we’re looking at nil valuation Jamari
thrash is probably like top 10 in this
entire draft class of guys who banked at
Louisville like he he he brought in some
cash but uh on the field uh smooth route
Runner he’s a guy that create separation
at all three levels I really liked what
he did uh a downfield particularly
particularly uh the past the 10 yard
Mark being able to break in corner posts
with things of that nature comeback
routes uh it’s it’s just so smooth
there’s not even a break really in his
route but you see you’re able to see the
uh uh the the line of progression where
he’s able to come back to the ball and
able to make things happen 511 188 uh
446 at the combine it was the Senior
Bowl that really stood out for me for
Jamari thrash uh I liked him tape and
then I saw him my mobile went back and
watched the tape and I loved them e more
I think this is a good pick up for the
Browns I asked um sorry I was in the
bathroom talking to Nick I had asked
wait wa don’t make it
weird like that you’re a trend Setter
Zach um I I had said that and Nick
wanted to make it clear by the way he
came in here to chime in but Bri was
doing Scout he wanted to make it clear
he was not the weird one it was Zach he
was just washing his hands and Zach was
weird about it um but uh it’s funny I in
general just over the course of the last
few months I would ask various people
around the league like you know hey do
you have somebody who’s like a a sleeper
you really like on day three that you
think can come up be an impact player
eventually you know stuff like that
thrash was one that I remember there was
one person I talked to who really
believed like thrash had the opportunity
to become a legit
player yeah I I I think thrash is going
to be good he’s probably the best pick
the Browns have made in an otherwise not
great draft oh my gosh we’re in Germany
drinking beer here for the Carolina Pick
at 157 should be drinking Miller Light
hello I’m chanin ofala from the Carolina
Panthers and last year I was selected by
Johnny Hecker from fford today we are
excited to be here at the hipo drum
Spring Festival and with Munich with
2500 of our fans and celebrating the
Carolina Panthers playing here in
Germany this
year now on to the draft pick okay the
157th pick in a 2024 NFL draft the
Carolina Panther select Charles Smith
Wade defensive back Wasington state a
good player man I like this pick yeah
this is a guy that trained in Dallas
during uh the pre-draft process uh
worked with various DB trainers around
the area but um yeah one of the shorter
guys I think probably his physicality
and what he can bring there’s probably a
lot of nickel love that you can you can
find there but he plays bigger than he
is that’s why I think he could Step Up
In The Run game and be a productive
player and the nickel potentially but
out at Washington state with him and
jadden Hicks they they formed a really
nice secondary Duo for uh for the
Cougars uh they had a really fun defense
last year and we’re starting to see
these guys come off the board here on
day three as a result uh but yeah Cho
Smith Wade this is a guy that whenever I
was talking to people at the Senior Bowl
whenever I asked about guys that had
ball skills he was the one of the ones
that jumped out as as a guy that was
getting his hands on the ball but just
couldn’t quite catch it uh but
nevertheless he was he was getting
getting to the ball and pass deflections
of that nature and I I think he’s a guy
who he played boundary he played off on
the corner as well at Washington State
uh uh and and Pullman but I think he’s
probably a nickel at the next level yeah
yeah this this you’re right 510 184 he
usually lines up at left corner and he
is not the tallest guy but really
competitive his short area movement his
feet are super quick the strength of the
game I think is how he moves and
outstanding technique when it comes to
coverage his ability to mirror and
recover is impressive receivers try to
turn him around but it just doesn’t
happen he’s very loose in the hips team
requires him to play a little bit more
Zone than man but for a guy that might
find a role as a nickel corner he hasn’t
played many snaps in the slot most of
his stuff has been on the outside so the
that’s what you’re going to have to deal
with with a little bit here I don’t
think he has great testing numbers but
his film tells a different story he’s
not afraid to come forward and it mix it
up the problem is there’s some snaps
where he just doesn’t tackle well enough
he had 30 tackles for the season but
also 10 Miss tackles if you look at the
metrics there so uh b i I love the way
he competes and I love the way he moves
just not the biggest guy yeah at 510 184
I think you guys are spot on oh my gosh
the Miami Dolphins just taking Mo camra
I’m J The Edge from Colorado State whe
the Dolphins are having themselves a
draft here boys ands for those speed
guys I’ll tell you what man MOA I I mean
I I had him graded pretty highly and I
understand right the guy isn’t big and
he’s got the short arms you can knock
him for all that stuff you turn on the
film the tape doesn’t lie he played
Lineback in high school in newart New
Jersey originally signed with temple
where his brother played then he said ah
I don’t like it here I’m going to go to
Colorado State six year senior extremely
productive like the Productions there
with him 45 and a half tackles for loss
30 sacks five Force fumbles but it’s the
Relentless motor I do think he’s got
some Ben I think he’s got good burst off
the line he is short he is stocky team’s
probably knocking him for that which is
why he’s still on the board but the spin
move the bull rush he can turn speed to
power crashes down the line to make
plays in The Run game he’s tough I mean
you watch him against Colorado he kept
the Colorado State uh team in that game
I I loved him I think his play
temperaments tremendous I had a third
round grade on him to get him in the
fifth great pick for miam this is the
last guy on that list of names I got
from people where they said guys they
were surprised didn’t go in the third
round this was the last name that was on
there so I don’t think you having him in
the fourth in the third round is too far
off from at least what some other people
around the league think there we go I
know no I know that like he’s not huge
and like really big in stature but his
arms aren’t short right they’re having a
draft Hunter NORAD just went to the
Chiefs and that was the Eric Scott Jr
pick for the cowboys that they gave up
last year to move up I was ask yeah okay
so with Hunter NORAD going there he’s
you think he plays guard for them then
because they’ve got uh the Oklahoma
center who’s awesome humy Creed Humphrey
now he did struggle a little bit with
the snaps in the Super Bowl for whatever
reason I don’t know if maybe there’s
something maybe they think he’s got The
Yips and here’s but hunter orad does
have guard Flex Yip probably plays guard
for them but hunter orad here using my
73rd overall player to get him at pick
159 Kansas
City wow boy Xavier worthy Kingsley Su
Mata Jared Wy Jaden Hicks Hunter NORAD
that’s their draft Hunter norad’s a mean
player uh I mean I know I think Nick you
and I both liked him a lot nor NORAD was
a solid fall back op transfer from
Cornell made 20 straight starts at right
tackle at Cornell so he’s got positioned
Flags kicked inside when he got to Penn
State but I think he’s consistent in his
footwork and his past sets he’s got
finishing ability to Pancake D lineman
good awareness to pick up blitzers he
can pull he can get out in space I don’t
know what I saw you didn’t like him it
don’t look like it not a fan hey we we
we can disagree we don’t have to see the
same thing n no going back and looking
at it like I mean I trust what I saw you
just weren’t you just weren’t yeah
absolutely didn’t like I didn’t like how
he he sustained blocks I felt like he
got pushed back sometimes um I felt like
the balance sometimes and the core
strength to recover weren’t as strong I
do think I thought like yeah his his
anchor could be strong at times and he
can get to the second level but there I
guess there were just some things listen
this we watched them many players I’m
like d okay so this is almost a shock to
me to hear y’all talk about them
so I think that’s the beauty of the
draft is how we can all see uh guys
differently now okay here’s what we’re
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hanging out with the stream folks for
the rest of the draft uh here you go
Nick the Buffalo Bills taking eaan
Osio tell me about yeah so really
productive player in the second level
for Washington last season he was the
one that was controlling that defense
from the second level for the Huskies
and granted that defense it was it was
taken advantage of in the semi-final
against Texas and then once again in the
in the final against Michigan but
throughout the year whenever they needed
to make a late game uh stops they were
able to do that and the the first game
against Oregon is is really what stands
out they were getting bludgeoned those
first three games but then those first
three quarters and then the fourth
quarter they were able to lock it down
allow that offense to climb back into
the game but Olaf fio originally a
native of Anchorage at Alaska but
finished up at Bishop Gorman high school
out in Las Vegas uh made his way up to
Washington and you see the length on him
that’s what I really love about uh what
he brings to the second level he he can
uh quickly read and react he’s a guy
that was a downhill guy more so but he
allowed he allowed Dominique Hampton and
some of those guys on the back end to be
more coverage
coverage hone in skills but um I like
Olaf fos I think this is a good value
pick to here in the six excuse me in the
fifth round yeah he was a walk on it
Washington he battled a torn bicep and
ACL during his career he started 15
games in
2023 uh which was good for him he splits
time on defense though I saw a little
bit he he kind of rotates I thought
there were times where you didn’t see
the play develop and just flat miss the
read and then I felt like there’s some
guessing to his game felt like he’ll
fire Straight Ahead really just a and
kind of hope for the best a little bit
of a slow uh reading reactor on the RPO
stuff and I don’t think he always took
the best path to the ball so could be a
little wild a little off bounds because
he doesn’t change direction all that
well but uh I I will say this about the
the thing the lack awareness kind of got
me a little bit I was worried about that
I I I agree with you on the angles to
the football Man Dan Quinn is cleaning
up here it’s uh it’s funny cuz when I
first watched Dominique Hampton I
couldn’t figure out why he was so
appealing to me to my eyes but it’s cuz
you know Joe Whitten those people it’s
similar to that Feld that yeah Dom
riness I’ll tell you Brian you you you
put me on to him 62 215 from Washington
he led them that’s back toback Huskies
Huskies are getting drafted here that’s
what happens when you uh you know run
her up for a national champion led the
team in tackles but he was all over you
watch him against USC yeah that tape was
impressive he can play with range
tremendous tackler and he can thump you
he comes down he’ll leave some remember
me Shots really good size too downhill
player he sees in he goes like he will
support you in the Run game uh now there
are times similar to his teammate we
were talking about I do think he can
take some poor angles but you know he’s
a guy that I don’t think I’d want to
leave him in single High coverage Troy
Franklin was able to beat him to a spot
for a touchdown in Oregon uh because he
kind of just took a little bit of a flat
angle so he can get beat over the top
but he plays I’m sorry but no you’re
right I mean there’s a lot to like about
this guy he plays flap no but Brian’s
mentioned it as well he plays flat
footed sometimes and you see him like
even like he kind of creeps up to I
don’t know if you you know what I’m
talking about like um yeah I yeah I
think he covers ground quickly but the
fact that he plays flat footed sometimes
I think he it can have him behind the
eightball a little bit but he’ll locate
the ball make plays on the ball um he’s
very chippy he going to throw some bows
out there yeah even if the ball’s not
coming his way you might get a rib shot
you might get a he’s yeah that’s how his
attitude is so I like I like to play a
lot pissed yeah he played 57 games in
his career most all time have him but
he’s some straight line he’s got some
straight line speed to his game when you
look at him though does a great job when
the ball’s in the air getting his eyes
around to help make the play but I say
that he’s a much better cover man when
facing the play than when the stuff’s
coming behind him yes he’s not a quick
mirror Guy They’ll walk him into the
slot but it’s an area that he really
doesn’t suit his style all that well but
he he’s a great communicator pre he
lines guys up he sees the field he plays
with instincts you can count on him to
play coverage well underneath the
experience and toughness are a big part
of his game absolutely okay we’ve got
Arizona now picking at 162 in the fifth
round Cowboys coming up uh they are now
at pick 174 so it’s getting closer now
for those that uh you know might have
missed it recapping the Cowboy draft of
course they move down from 24 to 29
Tyler gon ends up being the pick at 29
they get the extra pick 73 overall from
the Lions last night they take marshan
nean the edge from Western Michigan
Cooper BBE the guard SL center from
Kansas state with that extra pick from
the Lions and then Maris Leal the
linebacker from Notre Dame uh we do know
of course running back probably an
option another linebacker could be an
option a corner could be in play here a
defensive tackle the running backs now
you look at them I think Tyrone Tracy Jr
is a name we’ve mentioned another name
that I do think could be plays Jay mlen
from Alabama sure and and mlen is a guy
that I got to cover in high school at
Alo at Alabama I mean he was the starter
there he do now I mean they mentioned
juice mlen doesn’t have like amazing
long speed but he but he does have
enough speed his play speed is better
than his time speed though I think and
he’s a three down back like Jayce mlen
can do everything and he’s he’s big time
like you mentioned local kid but he’s
also big- time program pedigree yeah and
he played well at Alabama yeah size and
so I mean that’s that’s one to consider
I I mean I think yeah we’re talking
about if you’re if they go running back
I mean yeah oh there goes christian Jes
Christian Jones The Tackle from teex
it’s amazing how much better Christian
Jones was last year at Texas at right
tackle because pre and Bobby you could
probably speak on this better Nick Nick
as well but you being you know a Texas
Fan Christian Jones had really struggled
yeah I was see there are sometimes where
I know I I can get accused of the uh the
Homer bit from you know certain Texas
Longhorns Christian Jones is not going
to be one of those guys that I would
ever be accused of being a homer for but
he had he was really good against
Alabama and he played much better this
year yeah he he has you know Pockets
where it’s good and and times where it
flashes but to me it’s just it’s not
consistent enough and I don’t love his
hands I I I think the footwork is
subpar I’m just I’m not a very big fan
this is about where I would have thought
he could have gone like or this is where
I would have felt comfortable taking him
I know everybody else projected him
higher and I’m so I’m surprised he
didn’t go higher but I was I was not you
know a massive fan of Christian Jones uh
yeah six-year lineman started 48 out of
61 games started both left and right
also played soccer for two years in high
school but I I think he’s got a strong
base I think the footwork was nice can
maintain leverage he can get to the
second level speed can be an issue for
him but the Alabama game I think is the
one that really helped him in this R I
think uh I mean Nick I’m not sure your
feelings are Christian Jones but Brian I
know you did like him quite a bit from
what you saw yeah I think everything you
said about him is absolutely right the
fact that the veteran you know when you
talk about all the starts uh that he was
able to make while he was at Texas and
and and you mentioned the Alabama game
that that was pretty impressive for him
you know you know as a four-year starter
48 you know starts that he made that
Alabama game it that kind of showed up a
little bit he was able to to handle
those Edge pressures his hand placement
could be all over the place and when he
misses with his hands he he it’s hard
for him to be able B to redirect and
then get back in front of the defender I
felt like there were some times he
didn’t set deep enough and the Defenders
were able to grab him on the edge and it
didn’t have the lower body twitch to be
able to recover uh quick enough there so
you know I think you’ll need to clean up
the technique as a pass blocker they use
him in the screen game as a blocker but
you know he he gets the spot but his
body control and his balance can be all
over the place there so he doesn’t
always hit the targets teams might
consider him a better guard Prospect due
to some times the trouble in space I
think he’s a tough guy a lot of
experience but I think he really lacks
true athletic ability what was
fascinating about him as a recruit was
that he was a soccer player for a long
time growing up at 6’5 305 pounds God
forbid you see him coming across the
middle of the field trying to get a ball
but uh I I you you wanted a little bit
more of the mobility that you see in
soccer to translate to the offensive
line and I don’t think you necessarily
saw that but you saw the physicality uh
that he brought and obviously the
reliability the durability um think that
that is something that does translate
from the game of soccer so uh yeah
Christian Jones going to the Cardinals I
think this is an interesting option for
them just to have a depth option at
tackle it’s so valuable in this league I
think he can be that for them Green
Bay’s killing this draft too I feel just
traed up they just traded up we also did
have a draft a trade to tell you about
John Franklin Meyers was traded Jets
Broncos Jets sending defensive end John
Franklin Meyers who started 50 games the
past three seasons to the Broncos in an
exchange for a 2026
sixth round picks and then Franklin
Myers restructured his contract with the
Broncos so he sent a fat deal in
2021 uh and now it’ll get redone in
Denver and you know how they say like
World War II was just basically an
extension of World War I with just like
a little break in the middle this is
basically just the Zach Wilson trade
with a little bit of break in the middle
you know had a little bit of fluff in
here Jets and Broncos just stayed on the
phone the whole time are you guys are
you guys anticipating that we will see
some teams do some moving some folks
around after the draft is over
you you wonder about Deo you wonder
about t Higgins uh I think those were
the two names that maybe some could have
expected to go in the first couple of
days with some picks and offers were
made in in in both of those areas
apparently um but nothing was able to
manifest and I would have to assume
Buffalo trading back and acquiring all
those picks going into day two that
there was an assumption that maybe that
they could have put an offer together to
trade for one of those guys but instead
they stay put at 33 get Keon Coleman and
then uh later on get ray Davis so that
there’s some uh they’ve added some
offensive Firepower to that uh to that
Weaponry for Josh Allen but yeah you
would have to assume a couple of those
receivers probably come off the board in
the next few weeks but it’s just a
matter of where at this point if the
price is right okay Jacob monk out of
Duke Jacob monk the Duke Center who
played of course with graham Barton
there going to the Green Bay Packers we
had thought maybe the Packers would be a
team to go ahead and take Graham Barton
they went with Jordan Morgan uh and then
Barton went the next pick in the first
round but uh the draft continues for
Green Bay as they go ahead and get an
interior lineman Jacob monk out of Duke
one that I’m surprised has not come off
the board is Bo limmer arkans yeah me
too Bo limmer still and and maybe that’s
uh a size thing with bow but I like Bo
limmer a lot I mean competitive as hell
yeah because if you’re gonna go
balone yeah I’d liked B limmer more
tracking that that’s I know one team I
had limmer higher I know one team had
limmer in the fourth and another that
had limmer in the sixth I got yeah I had
NORAD limmer and B bone uh uh at the in
the fourth round and nor is that they
you know the the Wisconsin Center went
earlier but Limer I had McMahon too
North Carolina State I don’t know if you
guys mcah yeah I don’t know if you’ve L
Dylan MC McMahon I don’t know if you
guys have looked at him or not but uh
yeah he’s uh he’s a you know when when
you’re starting to talk about centers
those were the guys that I was looking
at y’all have any left in your top 100 I
got three guys curious if y’all have
yeah
uh yep King from Penn
State King me see DJ James I got kin
King I’ve got
uh mahogany yeah I have Malik Washington
Brendan
rice I have
James
Carson because kayin Carson has not gone
yet right no he has not um yeah James
Carson
and that’s it no Wingo yeah yeah in
borderline and I I don’t know this guy
could end up being undrafted but Leonard
Taylor III the defensive tackle I I
don’t think he mean the thing that and
I’m not even I’m not sweating the
mahogany one if Bobby’s telling me
there’s some medical concerns there and
I’m not sweating the Jaylen Ford one
because there’s some medical concerns
there so you know those were those were
players I had at 82 and 89
uh with the exception of that uh I don’t
have any top 100 guys left I only have
kayin uh out of those two guys because
you said what the deal is with kayin
king um it’s speed it has it has to be
the speed K the highest grade I heard on
kayin King coming into this from a team
was the fifth the there’s the count yeah
they’re getting ready here there’s our
guys there’s our guys Chris V point we
got John Steven Jr over here John Steven
Jones Jerry junor they’re trading
they’re getting their trade charts back
out they’re getting fresh ones you think
they’re going to move up no they got
fresh ones you you have to update when
these trades are made you have to
update that’s where Adam Pacific and
those guys do a really good job of
keeping everybody update on the trades
yeah Todd Williams passing those charts
Todd those those uh legal sheets of
paper if you’re watching along with us
right now uh the legal sheets of paper
of having them all break down and Todd
and Adam do a great job of of making
sure that everybody has fresh trade
charts in front of them so they know
what’s going on looks like some
preliminary conversation nothing
too nothing too imminent couple laughs
going on in the room boy I got to say
will mlay is rocking the blue sport coat
I like it I like it a lot he looks
really sharp crushing it right now he
really is see him in the bathroom I mean
you know I’ll I’ll uh I’ll see if he you
know just gab little you did get pretty
jealous and ran right out there into the
hallway to join with Nick I mean come on
man Jaylen Simpson the safety out of
Auburn goes 164 overall to the
Indianapolis Colts LED Auburn
interceptions in each of their last two
seasons that’s a ball Hawk right
there hey Nick Nick Nick you doing a
spot you doing a live spot it feels like
I’ve heard a lot of those in and out
over the course of the weekend it’s all
good uh okay we’ve got the Ravens uh the
Ravens will probably take Kalen King why
not I mean they they’re stockpiling
Corners here yeah Brian don’t you say
whoever is the highest graded player
left for you is usually who the Ravens
are going to take yes so who’s your
highest graded player uh it’s it’s uh
it’s the mahogany okay they’re going to
take mahogany I bet let’s watch let’s
see if that’s who they take they usually
do they their their draft board my board
is usually pretty similar you know who I
liked that’s still there as a guard uh
and I don’t think the Cowboys would take
him but what did you guys think of JD
duplan out of Michigan State I didn’t
watch him I didn’t watch him he
intrigued me where where he from talk
about him then Michigan State 47 career
games at left guard he started the final
42 to close out his career played
baseball and both line and dline in high
school but I think he redirects lineman
sideways really well to open up the
running Lane good base consistent sets
he can get out in space he can make the
reach in the scoop Blocks he’s got some
mean in his game with finishing ability
uh he can help block The Tackle really
well now he’s got some snaps where he’ll
catch as Brian likes to say hate that
but he does play with good strength to
adjust and counter uh so it’s like a day
three guy I made a note that I kind of
like this guy if you get wiped out in an
interior line but but uh that could be a
an an interesting player for a team I I
would argue for
Carson I would argue for at running back
I think the most complete guy left for
me might be Jace
mlen I think the running backs yeah the
running back names we’re going to be
looking at here are Vidal Tyrone Tracy
Isaiah Davis Jas mclen the juice is
Tracy Tracy’s a fun player I think Tracy
just if you want to talk I really like
the upside with Tracy yeah I think I
think when you start to think about what
was Pard was he converted wide receiver
receiver similar size similar speed
tough catch the ball you know just make
people Miss I was man I I I could he
he’s my he’s my best back that I have
left I know you guys don’t like shider
uh from Missouri that’s okay Davis I
know I got to vote for Davis uh and then
Dylan Johnson from Washington Dylan
Johnson from Washington is Johnson’s
dealing with a foot right I’d rather go
with mlen oh Ali from Marshall just went
to the Ravens fabulous I didn’t uh I
didn’t love all you like him I remember
as as much as some others did I just
thought there were better backs I mean
at this point questioning the
Ravens Golden Glove what I’m I’m I’m
wrong about ali he was a Golden Glove
boxer growing up yeah didn’t start
playing football until his senior year
of high school and only got one offer to
go to Marshalls
are you questioning the
Ravens he should have kept boxing and
not played running back but uh yeah he
battled injury towards the back end of
his uh uh his his final season at
Marshall but uh you see that fight and
pass protection I I think that’s yeah he
he is getting pass bro we talked we talk
about how basketball translates to to
football we’ve even seen it with
baseball and quarterbacks we talked
about soccer a little bit ago boxing I
guess you could translate that in the
sense that he’s a great pass protector
he’s able to uh understand guys pass
rushing Lane and he’s able to pick that
up even at 511 206 but kind of a bowling
ball he’s able to absorb contact really
well thees the contact balance was
strong with him but if you were looking
for juice I don’t know if he was your
guy he doesn’t give you juice man those
eight and five8 hands I don’t know about
that yeah I mean he was just a guy that
he did everything okay right I I didn’t
see anything Elite in any part of his
game but not a steady steady back uh
steady back there and he did I I think
what did he did he had a biceps injury
at the Senior Bowl something happened to
him yeah he was dealing with with an
injury I don’t have it on on Cup right
now
okay uh this will be interesting what
happens with the Cowboys pick with the
running backs I mean what do you not
like mlen I’m not a huge mlen guy the
the thing about mlen is yes there is a
there there’s not a lot of whenever you
look at carries that he had at Alabama
there’s nothing that jumps out at you as
like a red flag but he carried the ball
850 times in high school I mean from the
time that he was a freshman until he
graduated at Al and that is one of the
high schools in Texas that just pounds
running backs and every time that they
go to the college level they Fizz out if
you remember Jonathan Gray from about 10
15 years is why you don’t like him
you’ve got PSD from Jonathan Greg he’s
not wrong it’s one of those but also in
the same sense Jay mlen cannot stay
healthy towards the back end of his
career at Alo and he needed a year or
two to wait behind a couple of guys that
jir Gibbs of the world until he got his
opportunity last season finally he was
able to be healed up and it took him
that entire time to heal up didn’t he
get hurt during the pre-draft process
too yeah yeah he did and and once he
once he was able to heal up I think he
missed a couple of games as well at
Alabama last season but the thing is he
was never that same productive Runner I
feel like that we saw junior year high
school Jason mlan because that was I I
think H him at his best and he’s only
been at a decline since
then you could see the speed because he
used to have like some home run speed at
Alo he does not have the Home Run threat
anymore but he is just a I mean I do
think he’s a three down type of back he
was a pre-draft visit here so but the
injuries talking you’re we’re we’re
going to get some running backs with
warts yeah but yeah I mean I think if
you if you were to take take guys I do
like Tracy Tracy would be my my top
Tracy would be my top and then I would
have kamat Vidal tell me about Vidal
please how to find him I’m sorry about
that no you’re good not the biggest guy
in the world I’ll kind of start until
Aisha finds a spot but not the but if
you’re looking for juice he certainly
got it but he’s just not the biggest guy
in the in the world it would be Rico D
taking the the uh physicality of that
room if they were to draft Kimani viall
yeah that’s just my he super productive
I mean he was second in the country in
rushing yards last year he ran for over
200 yards in three games I mean he was
Troy’s offense body control and balance
I thought were his best traits he’s a
slippery guy you know he can roll off
Defenders gets yards off contract after
contact does a good job always falling
forward burst to get two and through the
hole uh there were times like he would
pop guys in pass Pro there’s also times
where you saw his size be limitation for
him but to me I think he can be a good
complimentary back like long speeds
average I don’t know that he’s an every
down back at the next level but he
sounds better than our guy from Alabama
mlen yeah he s is he is that close I
think he see mlen I see the injuries are
the thing with mlen I think mlen can be
starting back but I hear what you’re
saying I just think oh there goes Tyrone
Tracy junr to the JN God darn
it oh you know what just give me Frank G
Jr I’m serious you know what I’ll be
honest even though I like Tyrone Tracy I
don’t know that they would have picked
him anyway so I don’t I think Frank or
junor is gonna be a good
player I’m I’m still smarting a little I
think at this point you just don’t take
a running back here I don’t either I
think you take a
corner or a
linebacker that linebacker would
linebacker or receiver
I mean my best player now is Malik
Washington you guys okay how about some
of these how about some of these three
techniques then I mean is it too early
for uh Christian Boyd I don’t think so
oh no I don’t think so I I get excited
I’d get excited about that yeah I I get
excited as well because I understand
that you know the size makes him look as
like a tweener but n this dude can take
on double team 64317 yeah well I think
well you see the speed from him in
theast Rush ability it makes you think
oh he can’t take on double teams or he’s
not a guy that can play The Run no like
his he’s so Stout and short um just kind
of the way he’s not short but he’s just
built like kind of compacted compact I
guess you want to say um and the way
that he’s able to stack shed tackle get
to the next get to the next level and
you know make and um yeah I just think
he he could be a good addition to the
team he’s probably one of the more
versatile DTS that are at this point um
in the draft as a whole anyway so he’s
my best defensive tackle left other than
Taylor but Taylor’s a three Tech and I
think Taylor’s got some issues off I
don’t know I’m I’m I’m a little I’m a
little annoyed though because I just
what do we what what are you doing
you’re doing all this to build your
offensive line and what is your running
back room going to look like if you
don’t take again we’re not forcing
nobody to take nobody so you got right
now and this is just for this year but
I’m assuming Zeke’s in on the team uh
you you signed Royce Freeman you’ve got
Deuce you’ve got Rico I mean yeah it’s
not it’s a lot that’s not going to wow
you but it’s not like you don’t have
guys that can carry the football yeah
but you at least need like the even
though the committee thing and just kind
of how things are going in NFL like you
got to have somebody that’s a somebody
like most guys have most teams have I
don’t you have to have somebody who’s a
somebody in the running game if your run
if your run blocking is fixed and so if
they fix their run blocking that fixes a
lot I think that’s a very arrogant way
to look at things because that’s hold on
hold on hold on I’d love to talk about
this why is it arrogant to assume that
the Run blocking what Helen Robinson
from Texas just went to the Jags okay
Bobby Bobby go for it no I’m good no no
I want to hear it I’m good because I
agree ultimately I do think the runner
uh it’s all about the offensive line
like the offensive line matters a ton to
an extent but I I do think that like you
it just it doesn’t make it doesn’t make
sense to me to not have if not 1994 if
you have I mean I’m tracking that to be
199 if you have an elite Runner and a
good line and you marry that together
that can be something very very special
like we saw with Zeke his rookie year in
2016 but I think you’ve seen with like
San Francisco uh now Miami’s put in more
effort right with running back but I
mean the guys like Raheem moer uh for
example that were not high big names but
they had good rushing schemes with good
off offensive lines you can get
production from backs I mean Philip
Lindsay comes out in the draft undrafted
free agent goes for a thousand yards
right and then now is out of the NFL and
was playing in the XFL last year so I do
like just for a year I do think if your
offensive line is performing well you
can get productivity from your back
field even if you don’t have a pro bowl
caliber running back one note about
Jacksonville taking that swing on keln
Robinson the uh wide receivers coach at
Texas is Chris Jackson came from the
Jacksonville Jack Wars before the start
of last season so a little bit of
connection there between the University
of Texas and Jacksonville maybe there
was a little bit of pre-draft
conversation there but Kean Robinson I
think he’s a guy that would be
phenomenal on special teams as
potentially a returner or a guy that can
just work in the Special Teams unit but
from what I understood at from his time
at Texas could never really pick up a
Playbook and so uh yeah I mean I know
the feeling oh no yeah ah yes okay so a
couple of running backs Tyrone Tracy
Junior kelen Robinson Tracy we didn’t
really cover um we talked talked about
him a little bit but now he’s a giant
you’re going to play him twice a year
converted wide receiver started SC in
Iowa only been a full-time running back
for one season but he’s a big time
return guy yes sixth year senior spent
his last two years at Purdue uh
eventually this guy will rip off a chunk
run a game I mean there there’s times
where like it’s all right we’re plotting
along plotting along and then boom
here’s a 40 yard chunk he can get
through the whole run Elite type of
speed he needs to work on pass
protection but I think that’s also like
being really raw and rare at the
position uh but he’s Shifty great in the
open field and he’s a weapon of course
in the passing game having had that wide
receiver background which really really
helps him as a wide receiver as a
running back so that’s a bummer uh that
could be a good pick for the New York
football Giants we’re into the
compensatory round
now 168 here’s the Buffalo Bills at pick
168 I would look at Boyd here I think
Boyd would be interesting I think Carson
would be interesting you talk for the
Cowboys of course right what about what
about Jem Bell oh uh Solomon from Troy
The Edge you’d
faint oh Javon Solomon The Edge from
Troy yeah DJ James is that a thought DJ
j i Bobby you like DJ James a lot Carson
yeah he’s good kayin Carson as well yeah
like I’ve got King and Carson a little
bit ahead of James but I could see it
with James the only not like the only
thing with James that bothered me Bobby
and and maybe you disagree was was
tackling yeah but I mean even with the
tackling I would have taken him in the
second round I mean we’re talking about
back end of the fifth know yeah I mean
the the coverage is good with him
there’s no
doubt oh
man this is starting to get tense as we
look at look at how this board’s falling
right now if you’re not taking a running
back here you are you are officially
going in on the fact that your running
backs next season are are probably not
going to be dominated by a rookie which
I think was the expectation going into I
think it’s kind of happened like I think
it would be official you’re right but I
think it would be okay it’s officially
Allin on it being the veteran group or
the the second year guys that are in
that I me out of the guys that
are say that again he break down the the
the the running back room yeah so I mean
it would be let’s start from the bottom
because you got Malik Davis still in the
practice squad that spent a lot of time
on the practice squad last year maybe
that’s your juice uh dece vau maybe
that’s your juice a guy that can go into
year two it’s just a little bit more
time and maybe better protection up
front who knows uh moving forward some
of the bigger guys you got hun more of a
fullback and short yardage situation
again got a lot of love in that Miami
game but wasn’t really able to get
anything after that fumble on the goal
line moving past that you have Rico D
who was the compliment to Tony par last
year which and he had he had his moments
don’t get me wrong he had a couple of
big runs he was very physical between
the tackles and I think better interior
blocking might be a better result for
Rio dle uh he he was brought back on a
one-year contract and that’s another guy
that’s still in the room but again not
starter potential in my eyes then you
bring in Royce Freeman as a as a a
veteran addition I mean right under four
yards per carry I was never super
impressed with what he did as as a as a
as a running back in in these last
couple of Seasons he does absolutely
nothing in the receiving game and then
the potential to bring in um Ezekiel
Elliott um I think the one interesting
aspect for Zeke a is the pass protection
but also B the fact that he had 51
receptions last season he was a really
big threat for for the Patriots out of
the backfield and whenever you hear
Jerry Jones talk about this rhetoric
about how he really liked what Zeke did
on the back half of the season last year
and then you see um you know him only
rush for about 3.7 yards per carry over
the course of the last six games I think
he’s more so talking about the receiving
aspect of things and the pass blocking
aspect of things which I think could be
an addition to the running back room but
they still need a guy that can take the
ball on a handoff and get you a big play
like I don’t I don’t see a 25 plus yard
run threat on this team at all I don’t I
don’t see one yet and so um that’s where
I I see a guy like potentially Isaiah
Davis fitting in but again I I I I think
are going to hear me a broken record
until that until that is either made or
not made no that’s what happens this
time you know when you get to to the end
you’re trying to sell but you’re also
looking at these traits you know you’re
looking at the traits and you’re trying
to figure out okay you know who’s the
guy that’s got the best traits who’s the
guy that’s got the best fit who’s the
guy that maybe’s a three down player
who’s the guy that’s the best you know
when these running backs and stuff like
that I mean that they’re talking about
explosive players and stuff like that I
mean your chance to draft an explosive
player could have happened last night
yeah with Lloyd or you know or a guy
like that you could have taken but you
took a linebacker and you know we we had
the linebacker coach on earlier and he’s
right hey they needed bodies they needed
you know they the scouts love the player
they love the the the hair on fire type
of guy you know so I I can’t fault him
for that but you know I could also see
them going into this thing and not
drafting a running back and signing
Ezekiel ellot and trying to bring the
band back without Tony par you know and
try and figure it out from there Curtis
Jacobs I think is another thought here
at 174 potentially um yeah Curtis Jacobs
here could make some sense I mean I
would I think I’d rather have jayen Ford
or muasau yeah that’s what I’m saying
about mu yeah that’s what I’m saying you
know if if they if just not just not to
get into the line just not to get in
that situation where you don’t have
linebackers anymore yeah you know that
that was something that they went
through last year and I don’t think they
ever want to do that again you know you
know God bless the kid for stepping up
and playing but they they they need to
figure out about all these linebackers
they really really
do all right uh pick is in for the
Saints pick 170 here in the fifth round
as this baby moves along it seems like
it’s kind of gotten a little bit slower
with some of these picks uh oladapo from
Oregon State just went to the Packers at
safety oh bub means the wide receiver
from Pittsburgh going to the Saints here
at pick 170 that’s a nice pick for the
Saints that’s a fun fit yeah H and
Spencer rattler potenti
a couple having some fun there but means
I think is probably one of the physical
possession receivers here that you could
find on day three 6’1 215 pounds um a
really big time you throw it up to him
he’s going to be able to bring it down
Red Zone threat there for uh for
Pittsburgh uh was able to learn under
that talented receiver room that
Pittsburgh had over the course of the
last couple of Seasons at least in my
eyes and uh really developed into his
own right I I I really like what BB
means brings to the next level I think
it’s a good fit to in New Orleans
because they have needed kind of a red
zone guy yes they have Chris alve uh
that that can get them downfield but I
think whenever they struggled inside the
20 chimra I think is on the back half of
probably what he can bring you from a
production standpoint in the back field
so being able to bring in a possession
guy like bub means that’ll really help
their their work inside the 20s yeah bub
means he a fun player for a guy like
Spencer Rattler that’s not always super
duper accurate this is the guy that’s
just going to go get that ball for you
yeah very or Derek Carr or that too yeah
um but yeah oh here’s a trade Jet’s
going to 171 they’re moving up is this
was this Philadelphia’s pick at one yeah
this was Philly yeah I think Philly
might have had back-to-back picks here
they did so they had 171 and 172 Jets
now have moved up from 171 they have
also pick 173 and 176 they’ve got a
bunch of picks here coming up or the
Jets this is interest I don’t know who
the Jets could be moving up for this a
quarterback I wonder if it’s to get
ahead of the Cowboys for somebody
because I mean if you’re making the
trade with Philly and you were the only
team in front of Dallas Jets
need yeah Jets need a backup quarterback
Pratt could you could you go I mean
could this be like I say could this be
for Pratt it could be for Pratt Pratt
would be a good backup for Rogers I mean
they traded Wilson that and I don’t
think that they did I don’t know if
they’ve signed anybody this off season I
don’t I don’t believe so I mean they
might have somebody that we’re not even
thinking of oh look but but yeah I to me
this would be I mean I’m surprised
Pratt’s still around like him maybe
somebody like Sam Hartman you know the
Notre Dame guy I I I I’m just throwing
the quarterback names at lirry from
Kentucky I just you know when you when
you start your trade up in this Jord
Travis yeah oh they they got trod Taylor
okay but still I mean they could still
draft a quarterback here yeah I I I that
wouldn’t be a problem I think at all
Tyrod Taylor but like I say you know you
get Aaron Rogers if you get a young guy
I mean you’re really just kind of hoping
you know maybe like I say I I think that
I think that Pratt kids are really good
player I’m I am surprised he hasn’t been
selected to be honest with you yeah I
mean there’s still several intriguing
quarterbacks left Jordan Travis Harman
injury right is an injury problem with
Travis is flagged by teams broke that
anle what is it oh it’s the ankle yeah
he broke the ankle against North
Alabama it ruined their season if he
didn’t get hurt though how high do you
think he could have gone I I I think he
probably could have ended up in the
fourth that’s what I had especially with
the playoff run I think he could have
but they’re announcing the selection
71st pick in a 2024 and draft the New
York Jets select Jordan Travis
quarterback all right good job guys was
a good group group effort there they
went Jordan Travis uh out of I would
have Tak myself I would have taken Pratt
but then but this kid’s extremely tough
when you watch him play and you know
there was I’ve seen him for too many
times against LSU in opening days with
all the Weaponry that they had and the
running game and the stuff like that
this kid’s a smart kid he’s well-liked
he’s he’s going to do everything he can
he doesn’t make mistakes he can move
around in the pocket the ball goes down
the field with him the ball goes
underneath the ball can go to the
outside I think he has a really good
command with what that what Florida
state was trying to do throwing the
football like we said when he got hurt
in that game their chance for the
National Championship went with him on
that field and that’s so unfortunate
because that was one of the better teams
in college football and he was a big
reason because of that yeah I agree I
think there’s something to be said about
you know you look at we we’ve been
marveling at how many good players are
coming out this draft specifically from
FSU and he was the guy that facilitated
a lot of what they did offensively and
it’s a lot of different personalities a
lot of different stuff he has a calmness
to him in these big games and I uh I was
heartbroken as well seeing him not be
able to finish the game yeah I mean gosh
they could have won the National
Championship get hurtan so talented I
mean another guy that we haven’t talked
about we did during the draft show
that’s still out there Johnny Wilson
yeah I mean Johnny Wilson’s in speed’s
another thing and people are trying to
kind of figure out okay big guy yeah
where’ he play him yeah is he is is he a
big tight end well that’s the thing
about it is I think that who’s the kid
Nick you’re really good at this who’s
the kid from Texas that the Indianapolis
Colts took because I can’t remember the
kid Damen Sanders or this year no no no
the 66 wide receiver oh ad and I
Mitchell no no no another
johnv Jacksonville okay that’s the last
guy that’s that height that was taken
there’s not a great uh uh history of 66
wide receivers I go back to Harold
carmichel when I was growing up with the
Eagles but but there’s not a great
history of 66 wide receivers playing in
this league couple different names on
asking around like who might the leag be
surprised to still on the board Jayvon
Cohen guard at Miami yes Cedric Johnson
Edge rusher
Mississippi okay just’s a look into the
war room here anything cat is he Old
Miss that’s old Miss that’s Mississippi
is Old Miss yeah checking anything
catching your eye here Brian in the War
Room Will’s got his hand on the phone oh
yeah he’s waiting to make a call they’re
just they’re just it’s about pick time
yeah he’s he took his hand off the phone
so maybe it’s a bad time I don’t think
they’re they’ve been waiting a long if
you were wondering it is trending
slow this this pick was predict uh pred
predicted if I can speak English to be
at 234 if it was running long it’s 248
Cowboys still haven’t
picked guard
Michigan man how many Michigan offensive
lineman are you taken most of them tror
Keegan my gosh most of them are gone now
I I did not watch Keegan I saw Zin I
mean so I I saw Keegan I just didn’t do
an evaluation on him
what’s going on 66 311 they’re they’re
goingon to pick somebody uh I would
guess I mean my best player here would
be Malik Washington the wide receiver
from Virginia MH um otherwise Brendan
rice the wide receiver from USC I would
love kin Carson the cornerback from Wake
Forest I do think those linebackers are
under consideration right I mean I think
Ford would be fun muis would be fun
Curtis Jacobs from Penn State you
brought up Nick I think they’ve just
kind of seen the Bo exhaust itself here
early on day three I I I think if you
would have asked them there probably
would have been a little bit more
options here at running back um but you
still like what you see at linebacker
potentially you still like what you see
potentially defensive tackle receiver
but all the value they were looking at
yesterday is not here right now yeah I
think for them uh that looks like Al
Harris and he just fist bumps somebody
let’s go let’s get Carson so somebody in
the secondary could this be James
I he just walked around the I don’t
think it was I don’t think it was
necessarily anything in tell still in
the room he was just showing everybody
was there don’t mess with me I’m here
kind of a thing yeah I think he fist
bumps Scott aick from PR there on the
left side Christian Boyd from Northern
Iowa defensive tackle I would not mind
Al Harris is back maybe maybe it’s a
corner here if it’s his safety I mean Bo
Brady he’s standing back there from
Maryland the corner that I mean I just
think that Carson fits DJ James makes a
lot of sense too one of those Bobby like
I wouldn’t mind DJ James here Bobby I
like James is James going to be physical
enough for Zimmer Brian that’s why I
like Carson I think he would I think he
and the and run support I think he’d be
fine the length though and and the
coverability the sticky part he’s a
that’s you’re getting a soft Edge and
run defense you play with the soft Edge
at number seven too a lot of
conversation here from Chris vaugh as
well I mean kin King you look at him out
of
Penn State I like him a lot I mean he
would he’s the one corner I have left
that you know that I have him in the
fourth round I mean he’ll he’ll throw
his body around and run support and Ford
the linebacker again we keep talking
about positions that they were really
struggling to Phil last year I I like
going corner here I think Corner they
need depth at the position I think those
three corners I itd be kind of cool to
draft Jerry Rice’s kid to be honest
Brendon hey I mean Brendan rice and
Malik Washington are the two highest
rated players I’ve got then it would be
kin King followed by kin Carson and DJ
James Al Harris looks like he’s making
some sort of a point to Jerry right now
yeah I I I think Carson’s just kind of
the Al Harris type of
corner well looks like he has his hand
next to the phone he’s trying to get to
the phone he’s like thinking about
calling a guy yeah Cowboys are
officially on the
clock all right Cowboys are on the clock
let’s see who it ends up being this is
what we’re here for
this could be anything really I I I
think we’re really open to the board
right now yeah absolutely but with them
you know now Will’s trying to sell the
idea of having somebody looks like you
know with with the discussion got Jerry
listening intently Mike McCarthy
listening intently right now Stephen
just kind of I mean Wills definitely
seems like he’s the weighing options
yeah he’s trying to he’s trying to tell
you why he would have one guy over the
other and Jerry’s going to have to make
this call so when you look at all right
so they’re picking here at 174 next
pick’s till 216 which is another comp
pick in the sixth round so I mean it’s
probably if we don’t take player y can
we still get player X you know if if if
we wait
around I mean out of the defensive
tackles like it looks like there’s
there’s more attractive corners and
linebackers than there are defensive
tackles for me like to me Boyd would be
the guy to go with yeah I don’t know if
you guys have some other DTS that stand
out I I I will say I’ll throw Ford out
there I know he’s like J medical it’s a
linebacker but yeah I think they I think
there’s edges there uh Taylor I got up
there as well Miami uh Wingo is another
guy that I’m I mean these are all threes
I don’t I’m not talking about any ones
right now for you I mean yeah the only
other guy like he’s a 3-2 Keith Randol
out of Illinois how about your Florida
State guy too right yeah I think this is
too early for fan love it no for Evan
Anderson I feel like it’d be too too
early Will’s making the call all right
so we got somebody that’s getting picked
it’s it’s isah Davis is off the oh wow
there goes Isaiah Davis that’s tough
that’s that’s a pin throw for me
probably not that room but 6’2 220 lbs
um had 1,400 plus rushing yards each of
the last two seasons was pushing 1600 in
2023 he’s got these long strides that
that break away in the middle of the
field probably needs to be a little bit
more decisive on what holes he’s able to
attack but I I think he’s going to be a
really productive runner at the next
level um he’s really solid in the
receiving game as well with that tall
long frame that he has he has short
hands uh that’s a fun pick for the Jets
man and for me that’s a pin throw I
don’t think it necessarily is for the
Cowboys though Jerry Jones is on the
phone though okay did they have
any conversations with stigers that’s an
interesting one too stigers still
stiggers still hasn’t gone and that’s a
fun
player oh they’re excited they’ve picked
somebody do we see Al Harris still in
there yeah so it’s I’m assuming this is
a corner and I think we’ve got four
names if I include stiggers that we’d be
happy with I think we’re cool with kin
King I love Carson that would probably
be my guy Bobby would go with James and
I’m totally cool with that too stiggers
I think would be an intriguing pick here
as
well well the scouts are all the the the
national guys think a Chris vau guy I
think will stood up to like give Stephen
kind of a hug Bobby if it’s a Chris Von
guy out of out of the corners here who
do you think that could be uh it’s hard
to tell with vaugh cuz they cross so
much stuff although I don’t know shot is
that shoten Heimer hugging people
too Al Harris is high-fiving everybody I
think Al Harris is about to get on the
phone yeah picks in so we’ll see uh who
who it
is shotty isn’t the well Zim’s right
there they’re all they’re all yeah shot
Shan Hammer’s kind of he’s a love of
everybody he’s a he’s a team player for
everybody Corner okay or defensive back
it could be a safety as well could be a
safety I I’m thinking this is a corner
though and I think think we’ve mentioned
a lot of the name I mean maybe it’s a
flyer that we don’t even know what if
it’s your what if it’s your boy Ryan
Watts I wouldn’t mind some Ryan Watts I
think this a little high for him but I
wouldn’t mind Ryan Watts with all on
with all those names on the board I
don’t think I would take Ryan Watts but
here we go I would take one of those
Corners yeah Bob Bob are you telling us
something we don’t need to know no I was
just curious Watts was one that popped
in my
head Zimmer with his I think I think out
of the room Brian would go with King I’d
go with Carson Bobby would go with James
out of out of out of the DBS out of the
DBS I I don’t know Nick and Aisha if you
guys want to break a tie not that our
votes matter here the pict made you’d go
with James I’m looking I wish somebody
from the NFL Network honestly I’d be
fine with any of these guys I I just I
liked Carson a lot and I know that
they’ve talked to him I like kayn Carson
more yeah I’m a kin Carson guy just very
slightly higher than DJ the one thing
that annoyed me about kayin Carson
though is I put put in my notes he’s got
a little Cheeto in his game we like he’s
he’s in position like oh my gosh he’s
got great coverage but a 50/50 ball all
of a sudden it’s like dang it that guy
just made the catch damn draft’s gonna
be open by the time we get done with
over with I’m get it’s moving slow
they’re GNA need to pick up on this
fifth and sixth round
here holy geez I mean I’m sorry about
Isaiah Davis that stinks yeah you win
some you lose a lot that’s all right I
feel you on that man but I we’ll see who
this pick ends up being it is taking
taking their sweet time well the the
network is be beam I know you know who
the pick is just go ahead and let us
know he can he can uh no don’t do it
let’s go ahead and be
surprised is it anybody that we’ve
talked about
Beamer he’s not even listening to us all
right perfect as long as we he he can
only talk back to me it is okay so we
we’ve talked about the
name he talks about a lot of humans talk
about a lot it’s one of the corners it’s
got to be one of the corners let’s see
they’re all kind of fired up still in
there so we’re trying to get fired up
for
them I mean if
it’s if it’s DJ James or Kaylin Carson
I’m fired up because that’s that’s a
those are borderline top 100 players to
me yeah I’m a fan of both those guys I I
mean i’ i’ you know fight for my guy in
Carson here over your guy Bobby but I
think either way you’ve got to yourself
a good
player and I think you’re getting Great
Value because you’re right I mean James
I had in the third Carson I’ve got in
the fourth you’re now in the fifth round
at
174 actually flip that I had Carson in
the third and James in the
fourth all right we still wait standing
by standing by Carson in the third and
James in the second I’m sure the Twitter
world knows exactly who this player is
don’t they yeah unfortunately they do
yeah but I’m not going to look at
Twitter I’m just going to let it let it
breathe as they say if the NFL would
decide not to run 18 commercials well I
think they’re setting this thing up to
get all the commercials and then let
Dallas pick they’re going to it’s like
when ni yic was drafted during a Taco
Bell commercial way back when no they
they definitely time the commercials to
be more I noticed that everybody cares
about the Cowboys they’re going to come
back I noticed that even probably get
Roman Roman Obin is going to stand up
there and say with the with the 174th
pick oh dang it I saw it I saw it I know
who it is okay you happy I’m very happy
okay cool I’m very happy that’ll work
that’ll work for me I’m very happy I
didn’t look I’m I’m not going to give it
away I’m not going to look either I
that’s that’s the danger of opening
Twitter during these situations because
they’re probably I mean we’ve probably
got I bet the fifth round’s already done
I bet the NFL is now on the sixth round
but we’re all behind because of the yeah
you know the pageantry of the draft here
right we’re at the mercy of the draft
yeah no doubt I feel like day three used
to just be like boom boom boom hour is
is it gonna pick up in the sixth round
because if we do this we’re gonna be
here this gonna be all night we were
they got to be on a TV schedule right
they got to get this up by five yeah I’m
sure the sixth and seventh all right
here we go Cowboys pick is in come on
roben Oben walk going to end up being
announced who are we taking who is the
newest Dallas
Cowboy hi and welcome to Mexico City the
international home of the Dallas Cowboys
my name is Enrique Bak longtime
broadcaster of the NFL in Mexico and
also longtime fan of the so I want to
thank the cboys organization for this
great great opportunity with the 174th
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20 kayin Carson defensive back there you
go let’s go that’s a hell of a pick man
I I think getting Carson here is great
he led the team with eight pass breakups
also had four games with five or more
tackles Senior Bowl invite he’s also one
of these guys played wide receiver in
high school he tackles man uh at times
he’ll miss in the open field though but
he’s a physical player does not shy away
from contact I love the way he competes
him versus Keon Coleman in that game
against Florida state was a really
really fun watch he does a great job of
undercutting the ball in the air to
break it up there’s times he can be
susceptible to the double move he needs
to watch out for that but he’s good
downhill closing speed I think he’s a
good athlete overall
strong hands at the line of scrimmage
and press I think he shows awareness in
zone I mentioned hey there’s a little
bit of the Cheeto in his game where he’s
usually in good position on a 50-50 ball
but the ball skills can be lacking at
times he did Miss time due to injuries
and his sophomore and Junior seasons can
play special teams I I like I like
Kaylin Carson a lot I don’t know how you
guys feel about the pick physical as
hell that was always what I came away
with on my notes whenever I I watched
him twice once before the combine and
then once after once they had a formal
with him at the combine uh but yeah
really physical I think he can play
inside outside I like him more in zone
opportunities which is an interesting
Fit For A Mike Zimmer type corner I
think if he was to get his guy in and in
this draft it would have been a guy that
could just press up on and throw him off
his release but this is a guy who Time
After Time seven 10 yards back from the
receiver uh off the line I wonder how
that kind of manifests in a Mike Zimmer
in a Mike Zimmer defense but
nevertheless physicality that’s what
really stood out to me really good open
field tackler uh strong in the Run game
all of that I I think this is a pretty
solid pick especially given the value I
like where this is at I would have
preferred DJ James I think but I still
really like Kaylin Carson here cars yeah
go ahead no no you got it go go go
please if he I mean if he’s in the the
vicinity it’s typically a contested
catch I mean I I just like the way he’s
able to drive on the ball um as quickly
as he can and again you mentioned uh
some of the things he does in the Run
game yeah like when he recognizes it
he’s he’s honestly to me trying to make
you look bad for running the play
thinking he’s not going to come up and
Tackle so yeah you you’ll see him
sometimes just blow up screen screen um
screen and run plays uh just because he
feels like it and he sees it I think the
tracking from him can improve um I just
think sometimes he gets a little lost
like looking back for the ball I believe
sometimes he plays the receiver and not
the ball yep so that would make sense so
you know he got some adequate coaches
here he got some great some good coaches
here to be able to get that out but I’d
love the competitiveness from him and
how Feist he is well man you’re right
he’s 6 foot he’s 199 lb you mentioned
very competitive very fiery in the way
he plays he’s got quick feet he’s able
to stay connected with the guy good
fluid hips the ability to turn the nice
thing of seeing the routes developing
and then trigger to the ball especially
good when he comes to reading screens
and those breaking in breing routes he’s
disruptive he’s got good instincts for
the position he’ll battle all types of
receivers you can watch the good
matchups against the Florida state guys
where uh you know he’s he’s able to kind
of battle those bigger guys and it was
he was able to handle that I think the
one thing he’s probably going to have to
work on I don’t know how good his ball
skills are there were a couple times
where I watched where he had a chance
for an interception and he was unable to
make the play the willingness of the
tackle the physicality of the tackles
right right spot right time of a player
uh I think the length the demeanor is
very good I love the way that he was
able to play those in-breaking routes
that’s one of my favorite things he
carries those in routes right there so
uh kayin Carson 6 foot 199 weight Forest
he’s a good football player yeah I I
mean I agree with you when you talk
about the ball skills like that’s that
50/50 ball thing but hey credit Al
Harris well what’s this team been able
to do since Al Harris became the the DBS
coach with donon Bland with Trayvon
Diggs he’s able to get these guys to
figure out how to intercept the football
now those dudes do have natural ball
skills which maybe Carson does not have
as much as those guys do but I think if
there’s one thing this guy’s got
everything else Al Harris can maybe tap
into hey let’s go ahead and locate the
ball in the air a little bit better yeah
excuse me and I think it’s important
that you know we look at this cornerback
room and and look at what they actually
have and what they don’t have I mean
they brought back Jordan Lewis for
another year to to man that nickel spot
um we still don’t know what you have
from Eric Scott Jr who they tried maybe
a previous regime deal there you know
there’s just some I mean also too I mean
you have a nan Wright who’s still here
it’s just you know I think that maybe
they’re looking at also next year um
with what’s going to happen in this
cornerback room so know I understand the
pick it’s fine yeah I I I like it I’m
excited I think you needed some
cornerback depth I think this a good
pick glad but he was a top 100 guy for
yeah let me yeah you know they didn’t
reach on a running back here you know I
was I was worried like okay let’s just
try and reach on a running back andon
yeah take take a guy that could play
yeah I mean I like Carson I liked King
you know I like DJ James this kid is I
mean this kid is a good football
football player he really Bell and just
put him in the back
field I mean look at this oh Jaylen Ford
just went to the Saints oh man good for
Jaylen Ford yeah that Jaylen Ford is a
really really good dude went to Frisco
lonar I got to uh call one of his games
against highand Park in high school and
he was just all over the field I mean
Nick Bolton of course uh was above him
there at Frisco lonar but Jaylen Ford
going to the Saints doesn’t have to go
too far I think that’s a good pick the
linebacker out of
I would have considered him I would have
too I would have too I like Jaylen Ford
quite a bit some people want to be like
okay the speed um but two years ago I
thought he was really really good in
coverage last year at Texas maybe the
tape not as good but I love Jaylen Ford
I think he’s a good player is that
a is that a Texas thing what I’m asking
like I’m asking like that’s not the
first time I feel like we’ve said that I
feel like we even said that about
overshown coming in was like one year
was really good and then the next year
you was like I don’t know if it’s the
same or it was just a difference in like
how they looked year to year from the
linebacker position I don’t think that’s
necessarily a program thing um oh okay
yeah is it a coordinator thing that’s
more so what I’m asking is it a coaching
thing is it changes whatever the case
may be no I think defensive coordinator
Pete quick Kowski he came in from
Washington and he’s a he’s a guy that
focuses it on that linebacker and safety
unit and how they kind of marry each
other very similar to kind of how Dan
Quinn did with his unit as well but um
Jaylen Ford and to Marv overshown the
thing with both of them um was de marvan
overshown the year before the the year
before his final season at Texas a
little bit of injury uh concerns and
then Jaylen Ford uh this last season I
feel like there was just so much around
him that he didn’t have to do as much uh
as he did in year three where he was
getting all these interceptions across
the middle of the field and finding the
ball and doing things of that nature
whereas this past season he was able to
get some help and and Anthony Hill came
in to really help get some pressure off
the edge and they were more pushed out
to the boundary um but I I think Jaylen
Ford and and in this particular spot for
the Saints a really good pick I think
he’s going to be a good player too I’m
curious what the medical concerns are um
whenever everything is all said and done
but as I see it right now a good pick
all right joining us now is your newest
Dallas Cowboy fifth round selection out
a Wake Forest kayn Carson kayn
congratulations man welcome to the
Dallas Cowboys how you
feeling thank you I’m feeling great
definitely feeling great great to be
here great to get picked so man to go
we’re we’re excited to have you we were
just all kicking around the tires we
broken down your film I me one of the
games that really stood out to me about
you was your match up against Keon
Coleman from Florida State who got
drafted earlier by Buffalo what do you
remember about that matchup man I mean
you’re just physical tough as hell and
you made his day really really
difficult yeah I just uh remember uh
during that week watching film and um
seeing what Rous he lik to run and
seeing um you know what he could take
and what he was weak at and um I think I
really attacked his weakness you know
and um that’s why that’s how I execute
it when it comes to tackling uh some
Corners are down to tackle some are ah
I’m going to shy away and make a
business decision you like to come
downhill and support in the Run game is
that something you’ve always welcomed as
the
contact uh yes sir I came out of high
school playing safety so I always been
been able to tackle and um I just don’t
feel like you’re a complete Corner if
you don’t come up in a run game all
right what’s up Kayla congratulations on
being selected your ball skills as well
you have a knack for being able to
deflect the ball out of the air and
being able to find it where did those
skills come from how did Wake Forest
help you in that department as well yeah
um I played offense all my whole life
until 11th grade year of high school and
um I would like to turn a lot of my uh
pbus into interceptions um and that’s
just coming with just trying to go with
two instead of one so uh I’m looking
forward to making those to interceptions
uh moving forward but yeah I would say
it just came from just playing offense
uh my whole
life you uh of course when it comes to
coming to the Cowboys Trayvon Diggs
donon Bland they just happen to be the
top two interception leaders over the
course of the last three years how
excited are you to join this secondary
and play with those two
guys I’m definitely definitely excited
to learn from them um you know they he
didn’t L the N led the NFL and
interceptions the last two years or
whatever so you know just excited to
learn from them and see what they have
have in store for me to learn from them
so what do you feel about special
teams special teams I feel like you’re
not a complete football player if you
play special teams either I got four
years of special teams um tape at weight
fors and it’s it’s it’s not it’s it’s an
extra play for me to just go hard so
kayin playoff kayin when it comes to
your contact with the Cowboys we we know
you got to talk with them during the
pre-draft process was it with Al Harris
Mike Zimmer what were your interactions
like yeah I had a formal meeting uh the
comine and um I met with the the whole
coaching staff or whatever but that was
my last um interaction with them uh yeah
basically since the come on all right
tell me one uh quirky fun thing about
yourself the Cowboy fans should know
just to get get get a little taste of
what your personality is like
kayin
um you said one word yeah just anything
fun just what’s a unique quality about
yourself what do you like to do in your
free time
uh my free time I like
to rap a little bit oh you like to rap
okay okay we can I get you to rap
anything right now about being drafted
anything on the spot if not it’s okay
it’s okay you don’t have to not not
right now not right now all right don’t
worry we we’ll give you some time this
is an awesome moment dude
congratulations we’re really excited to
have you a part of this football team we
look forward to getting to know you a
little bit more when you get to
town okay thank you appreciate thank you
so much there you goes kayin Carson Wake
Forest uh that would have been awesome
if he had have pulled off a little rra
please but it is I mean I heard he goes
by Los so that might be why didn’t you
bring that up you should have asked that
yeah I didn’t want to just like drop a
Dr drop he’d be like what are you
talking about but I’ve just heard that I
haven’t confirmed it that’s what that’s
I’ve just heard well let’s hear the uh
the secret audio Douglas baroud does an
excellent job at getting this to us Doug
we love you thank you uh some of the
perks that we have from being in this
building here is the secret audio of
kayin Carson being drafted
hello
kay how you doing well M clay with the
Cowboys I got somebody wants to talk to
you my man hold
onbo kayin are you still with us are you
still that’s all right but hey kayin are
you still on the
phone yeah well hey don’t don’t
apologize for all that
noise my my family would have been
screaming too had I got a call and said
I was going to be a Dallas
Cowboy yeah thank you coach apprciate
let me tell you I want you to talk to
your head coach this is Jerry Jones
owner but this is Mike McCarthy coming
off congratulations Kay congratulations
here’s here’s Mike McCarthy your
coach Kay miky how you doing thank you
apprciate I tell you what man we so
excited to make you part of the family
here congratulations enjoy this time
with your family this is obviously a
great moment for well hey I got a couple
guys want to say hello to you here okay
here here hold on here’s here’s Al H
secondary coach hello yo hello
hey hey man enjoy this now enjoy you you
only get to celebrate this once right
yes sir there we go man enjoy and um
I’ll reach out to you in a little bit
man so congratulations
congratulations thank that’s awesome
kayln Carson uh and and I mean I
probably should have asked him like
where he was who he was with I mean it
it was a crazy environment there in his
background I just saw he was Instagram
living being selected there I think
we’ve got quite a personality on our
hands with kayin Carson I’m excited to
get to know him a little bit more as he
joins the Dallas Cowboys but a good fun
pick there yeah he seemed a bit a bit
shy like a little shy though like I know
the personality is probably it’ll come
out it’ll come out I mean the way he
plays on the field like you’ll see it
but no he just sound like he got a lot
of family that support him that’s happy
for him they they was going in back
there yes it was super excit what a
special moment it is we’ll get to the
last pick in the fifth round and then go
through some of the picks have been
flying off the board here in the six but
uh Bobby I mean we haven’t really heard
your thoughts yet on the pick here with
kayin Carson I mean what do you think
about this in the depth now he adds to
the cornerback room yeah I mean I like I
like DJ James more but but I mean Carson
was one of the two best players left on
the board and I I think value-wise it
again tracts with everything else that
they’ve been doing would they have liked
a running back yes but I think right now
they’re just prioritizing we have to get
the most bang for our buck here and
that’s what Carson was man this is uh I
I think it was a spot that was needed I
mean I talked about it when we when we
mentioned sneaky needs I mean behind
your top three guys with Diggs and Bland
and Le you you’re relying on Des Shan
Wright Eric Scott Jr who you don’t know
about now you can slide in uh um kayn
Carson so I I do think Corner was a spot
they needed to address and they get it
here in the fifth the guy we were
mentioning quantz stiggers the Toronto
Argonaut ended up going final pick of
the fifth round to the New York Jets how
about stigers now going to the Big Apple
yeah that’s big time yeah what a story
for those that are not familiar he um uh
originally from Atlanta he played at a a
high school program with only 27 players
it was a charter school down there in uh
Northeast Atlanta the best Academy and
uh got a division 2 opportunity to go
play at Lane College in Tennessee HBCU
program and within the first few weeks
of him being there the covid pandemic
breaks out and then his father gets into
a car accident and um he has to go back
home his father eventually passes away
from his injuries a few months later so
uh quantz makes his way back to Atlanta
to help support his family and many
siblings I believe he has six siblings
and um uh he was working door Dash he
was working uh a lot of food delivery
services he was doing some night jobs as
well just to be able to provide and his
mom signed him up for a tryy out that
she saw on Facebook for the fan
controlled Football League uh that was
running out of Atlanta and she said hey
why don’t you go out get back in the
game and just try out for this he did
not only did he make a team he was a
co-defensive player of the year in the
fan control football league with the uh
multiple interceptions that he had he
caught the uh attention of the offensive
coordinator of the Toronto Argonauts in
the Canadian Football League he invited
him up to uh uh Toronto for a training
camp workout he made it to camp and then
he made the team I got to talk to quantz
at The Shrine Bowl and kind of asked him
about that process and he was like Hey
man once I got the camp invite I I
thought I was going to be cut by day two
well by day two he had had five
interceptions against the number one uh
as or the first string offense and he
was getting run with the twos not only
did he end up starting for the Argonauts
last season but he ended up being the
Defensive Rookie of the Year in the
Canadian Football League with his five
interceptions 50 plus tackles uh really
awesome story 5 foot 10 probably around
200 pounds he probably needs to add a
little bit more muscle he’s got a little
bit like he’s got unnecessary weight
that he might need to trim down and then
bulk back up to muscle uh but
nevertheless I think he’s a guy that
once he has about a year of NFL weight
development he’ll be able to go on the
field and take what he has learned in
the CFL and the FCF and be able to
translate that to a different
professional football league his third
one already but but he’s just the third
player in the common draft era to be
drafted without college football
experience absolutely fantastic story
from quantz stigers and it’s like he’s
it’s like he don’t know no better so he
don’t he don’t know no better like if
you watched him even at The Shrine Bowl
practices his body like his body just
finds the ball like he just has a
natural nose for the ball and again it’s
not all technically right and all this
stuff but he’s just pure athleticism and
instincts and whoever you know well now
now we know who’s grabbing like yeah
they’re going to get to he’s going to
get really good coaching and uh really
growing this league who who grabbed him
the Jets the Jets Jets yeah j e Jets
we’re not going to spell it but we’re
how do you feel like s Gardner can be
more of a teacher for for young
Corners really know a lot about what s
brings to a locker room do you have
anything there I mean s worked out here
in Frisco before the draft I mean he’s
he’s at least in those settings he’s
really positive working out with the
other guys in the group so he’s I mean
he’s the person personality that he is
but I mean he’s not somebody who’s just
go my own way and and be so at least not
in those workouts he wasn’t yeah all
right round six is in full swing here
Brian we got Walter Rouse going to
Oklahoma at the first pick of the sixth
round he is a Minnesota Viking now Logan
Lee the defensive tackle out of Iowa
goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers you
liked him a little bit didn’t you ASA um
okay he was all right I liked I liked
some of his uh his get off and just
seeing some some of the work that he did
at The Shrine Bowl um yeah he just has a
quick initial step off the line I I
didn’t always like his Pad level but
he’s somebody that has a bit of a motor
when it comes to rushing the passer I
believe he’s a former tight end or
something like that that makes some
sense he’s 65 281 um yeah I think he he
he was a convert he was converted they
converted him to D tackle based off of
need and he able he was able to be
actually be productive there at Iowa
during that time he he stood out during
the shrine bow practice
yeah yeah he’s a guy like not nearly as
tall but you guys remember margus hunt
who came out ofu like a dude will just
get his hand up therein yeah block
everything uh yeah he’s one of those
guys that can do that uh
Utah’s offensive guard
satawa lamea uh laeha laeha yeah laeha
supposed to go higher he got flagged by
teams laa yep okay so he ends up going
to the Seattle Seahawks there is a guard
marcelis dial cornerback out of South
Carolina Dial’s an interesting player uh
goes to the Patriots really quick him
and Christian Gonzalez really fun young
Duo there oh yes uh tell the uh you know
for those that haven’t watched Marcel
dial what do you think about him
lengthen ball skills I I think he’s a
guy that could play on the outside and
just really be able to hone in there and
be able to lock a guy down simple as
that yeah a 31 passes defense I think
during his time there at South Carolina
and then we talked about kamman vital uh
the running back out of Troy I broke him
down earlier he ends up going coming off
the board to Chargers the Chargers great
nephew of who Aisha Hank
Aaron you give me back you give back
some thank it man not so funny no cuz I
got flamed on Twitter for that y’all
like I I I deserved it
f Jackie Robinson day too remind me but
uh listen looking at Tennessee go jaquin
Jackson going back down the two lane
again after getting Taj Spears last year
they must like that’s a fun one
absolutely I I’m thrilled for him maybe
they’ll Circle back and take the
quarterback Michael eventually just go
ahead and load up on the two lane waves
huh this guy’s a good player
though 591 188 go ahead and tell me
about him Bri you talk about oh go ahead
go for it you talk about the top end
speed and some of the things he’s able
to do you see his size and how fast he
is you think okay he can’t take a punch
no man he will extend get knocked in the
mouth and get back up um he has a
patience in his route running that I
think he can really grow as a route
Runner but even so again he has value as
a returner as as well uh yeah I just he
can stop on a dime his hands are pretty
strong even though he’s not that big um
yeah this the contested catches or
something that maybe you want him to
work on but the route running is is is
refined enough for him to do what he
wants to do he freestyles a bit
sometimes too this is a fun player if
I’m not mistaken this is Ed Reed’s
nephew as well yes wow wow a lot of
pedigree in this draft yes oh that’s
that’s one thing we we haven’t talked
about it as much but that was one thing
I was thinking every time we were
talking about a player always have to
the side like goodness is there a legacy
or something there’s a lot of Legacy
kidding me Darius muel out of UCLA going
to the Giants the Giants seem to stop
doing this I’m I’m getting really
irritated with them taking players we
the division in itself
like darus mual
61230 at of UCLA LED them in tackles
defensive MVP of their bowl game he’s a
transfer from Hawaii he’s got five
brothers and to me he’s like a throwback
Chase and rally reading act Ty lindback
her super strong hands to shed blocks
awareness in zone blitzes tackles
everything can rally from the backside
he’s Relentless in his Pursuit High
football IQ he’s short right so that’s
probably why he’s available here but you
know sometimes yes I think the size also
when he’s trying to to get through the
trash uh that can be an issue for him
but I really loved his anticipation I
was a big fan of Darius muel what did
you guys think I think you got him
absolutely right man you watch him play
it seemed like to me those opportunities
that he got the bigger the opportunity
the bigger that this guy played and and
and I’m surprised to be honest with you
that he’s really lasted this long uh I I
think there’s I think there’s some some
really really good instinctual traits
about the player and uh so you know the
Giants when you when the Giants I think
are having a pretty good pretty good
draft but uh you know this guy’s a
five-year player so he’s seen a lot of
snaps in his day and and I think there’s
something to about have an experience
about that because this guy has a feel
where he needs to be at the right place
the right time Bobby we were talking
about linebackers as an option do you do
you think oh wow there goes Malik
Washington we’ll talk about him in a
second do you think mua is even in
consideration uh I don’t know I I didn’t
even watch mosow other than just like
cursory look at it but no to me I mean
the only linebackers left that were that
I think makes sense the only one really
left that pops to me is John Trey Hunter
Curtis Jacobs uh Curtis Jacobs is like a
player that’s good yeah but in terms of
like the ones that they’ve shown
interest in and that I also like and I
think like Hunter if you go watch his
tape against LSU like it it gives you
the confidence that okay he can hang on
the field with with bigger time pedigree
there was interaction with Curtis Jacobs
at The Shrine Ball but yeah since then
there hasn’t been there hasn’t been much
there Nathaniel Watson is another one
that’s still on the board yeah Watson’s
still there yeah he’s a 30 visit I have
a question though in regards to Watson
do you think that
you somewhat of the temperament is too
similar to uh mauce not he he like he
can’t cover the same way but I’m talking
about just the downhill hair on fire
might take a bad angle every now and
then might overp pursue a little bit
like see I I felt like he was I I was I
was comfortable with what he brought
from a downhill perspective but not from
the coverage perspective so it’s it’s
kind of the the flipflop there no no no
yeah and I get that I was I’m just
saying like from the I just like
physicality a lot of the same person I
will say it seems as though I mean one
common theme I think with all of these
guys that the Cowboys have taken gon
nean Cooper BBE uh Maris Leo F kayin
Carson now physicality yes in the way
all of these guys play they definitely
want to they it seems like well they
said it like they they want tone setting
guys and you can tell by this draft so
far that that’s something that’s
important to them because they probably
just tied to get hit in the mouth in
these games uh Miami uh again I mean we
could just continue the Dolphins are
like what they take a good player here
and this is that’s a fourth round guy on
my board yeah I agree that that that was
a top 100 player for me top 8 five
player for me Malik Washington the wide
receiver out of Virginia uh he ends up
going to the Miami Dolphins here how
many receivers do they need I know
transfer from Northwestern he also
lettered in track in high school claimed
a National State title in the 4X 100
meter relay so the track team continues
there with the Miami Dolphins doesn’t it
but I think you know primary slot
receiver used in motion a ton he’s got
added return value on special teams I
think he’s just got a natural feel for
where to find the hole in zone coverage
can sit down he’s tough to bring down in
the open field he’s a willing blocker
along the edge for a smaller receiver
receiver exceptional contact balance
reliable hands I was a big fan of this
guy I think he’s really good over the
middle of the field working on Crossing
routes playmaker with the ball in his
hands consistent route Runner can get
separation he’s got some twitchiness to
him uh I think that’s a great pick for
the Miami Dolphins with Malik Washington
greting yeah First Team all ACC guy the
production was so awesome last year
Cavaliers even in a a season or I mean
it’s for a team at this point that is
has not been super successful in the ACC
but he was the consistent guy time after
time I think him as a slot weapon let’s
think about it Jaylen waddle Tyreek Hill
um Cedric Wilson still with with the
dolphins as well correct Wilson left
this off season he signed with somebody
else I think we were actually going
through that the got baros but I I mean
the the speed the production it’s it’s
funny cuz Malik Washington’s a 447 guy
and he’s going to join AER rumor he
might be the slowest one in there it’s
uh it’s it’s really fascinating maybe
this is a guy too that can handle most
of the uh returning abilities too if
they feel like baros maybe didn’t bring
a whole lot because I know that they
were they didn’t want Tyreek to to do
that they they want Tyreek to be able to
be a guy that can take on the offensive
load and not have to worry about the
return Johnny Wilson Eagles wow Johnny
Wilson from Florida State
going okay yeah why don’t why don’t you
go ahead and talk to us a little bit
about that because because you’re right
I mean you brought up the Colin Johnson
last receiver taken that high but the
Eagles do have a history with that they
do and and it’s funny because you you
start to talk about the great the great
history of tall wide receivers you have
to start really with Harold carmichel
and at with the Philadelphia Eagles I I
think the thing with Wilson that’s
fascinating to him of of course is his
ability to make plays down the field I
think that’s something for somebody that
tall that he found a way to make plays
you’re always kind of thinking his
underneath stuff is really really really
really good but but down the field I
felt like that he found a way he didn’t
have a lot of receptions as a go
receiver but his ability to make plays
as a receiver underneath I think too was
something that was pretty impressive for
how tall uh that he is for uh a receiver
it just takes a long time for him to get
going you know he did resp surprised me
with that 411 short shuttle at the
combine so you do see a little of
initial quickness but you know man you
start to talk about tall wide receivers
again Mike Evans at 65 Alan Lazar at 65
Colin Johnson was 66 that’s kind of
where he’s dealing with right now jce
mlen yeah did they trade uh the Falcons
no the Falcons have back-to-back picks
here um oh tracking that uh 186 and 187
uh they take Jace mclen the running back
out of Alabama whom we discussed I do
think the Cowboys were interested in J
ml that’s a local kid we talked about
him earlier out of AO excuse me do you
have who okay and that pick at one I’m
sorry when I was talking
186 is that Arizona who is that 186 it’s
Atlanta it’s Atlanta Atlant from
Minnesota through Arizona yes so that’s
Atlanta’s pick yes is that the mlen pick
yes yeah okay and so they haven’t
selected at 187 they have not P they
just took Casey Washington the wide
receiver from Illinois okay Casey
Washington brother of Parker Washington
if y’all remember him from last year out
of Penn State State and um oh that’s
right yeah yeah and they have a sister
as well that’s in the scouting
Department up in Chicago um but yeah I
think Jas melen um that was that was a a
pre-draft visit for the Cowboys I’m sure
that’s probably one of the last ones on
the board that they met with at this
point I I would imagine I don’t think
there’s anyone left did they have one
with McGee uh McGee not Jordan McGee’s
already gone um John Trey Hunter I I
meant running back wise oh running back
running back wise I think I think that’s
it espe even for uh combine visits too I
think they have been completely uh
washed away I mean you got Frank Gore Jr
still on the board jaar Jordan um Dylan
Lobby out of New Hampshire I know some
guys really like him uh Carson steel out
of UCLA I mean now you’re kind of
scraping down at the bottom of the
barrel you also have a Monty Bailey out
of TCU that was aile that was a
pre-draft visit um Monty Bailey runs
very slow for how small he is I agree
yeah he does that’s another Den Ryan
Raider Michael Wy is an interesting
playmaker too but um before mlen went
off the board somebody had just texted
me a little bit ago that the only
draftable this is an AFC team the only
draftable running backs they had left
were shraer Lobby uh Kendall Milton and
Jason mclen and mlen just went so it
would be three now what’s the speed like
for Milton you you guys think he’s fast
enough maybe he’s a guy you could
consider mil Kendall Milton out of uh
Georgia I feel like
I mentioned him earlier today I didn’t
see a lot from Kendall Milton honestly
he ran 462 at the comat yeah yeah I
didn’t see a lot there yes cuz he has
long strides like what’s the word you
use for a guy with choppy strides
shmedium smedium
mediummedium strides I got to remember
that one
uh yeah it it’s yeah he’s not a juice
guy he’s not bringing the juice that’s
not that’s not happen I don’t think
they’re going to take a runner they
might not no I me okay here’s what I’ll
here’s what I’ll throw out is I mean
there’s there’s a back in Houston
that’s maybe on the trade block who oh
don’t say it out loud I don’t know I
don’t know if I can or not but he’s he
played with Malik Davis in college at
Florida I don’t think you can say it on
Dallas so he was really good two years
ago uh fell off last year but I mean
there might be some Avenues in the trade
market is he officially on the market
very generically there might be some
Avenues on the trade market without
saying anybody specifically yeah okay I
mean just possible Poss options out
there throwing it out there maybe thr
out there maybe a late round pick could
could could make that happen I don’t
know it’s
possible possible all right the Houston
Texans now uh with pick 188 uh I do want
to let’s go back I know Beamer’s got
this last night we were trying to play
some of the secret audio of the Cowboys
third round pick Maris loul out of Notre
Dame it kind of ended up fading out on
us here is meis when he got the call
from the Jones
family
Maris yes sir this Jerry Jones with the
Dallas
Cowboys are you doing s well I’m doing
great but I’m really proud to if I’d had
the good things said about me that’s
been said about you over the last few
days but you’re now a Dallas Cowboy
thank you so much well we’re excited
about you being here you’re a you’re a
hell of a hell of a competitor and we’re
proud of it but our head coach want to
talk to you and our defensive
coordinator both of them Mike but here’s
Mike McCarthy our head coach hey Mars
congratulations man how’s it going coach
hey I tell you great to hear from you oh
you bet I just can’t say enough about
you after seeing you up here in Notre
Damon on your 30 visit so you’re coming
to a great places you know so I I do I’m
so I’m so excited coach I appreciate you
bet you bet hey enjoy this moment with
your family I’m going to pass you on our
defense Corner Mike Zimmer all right yes
sir here you go y hey Maris you there
how’s it going yes I’m here sorry
congratulations thank you so much you
sold me when you told me what everybody
on the defense was doing that when you
were here thank you I appreciate it yeah
we’re ex man I had a great time yeah
well you’re going to have a better time
now Y no for sure all right
congratulations I’m thank you so much I
appr give you back Mr Jones okay but may
again uh yes sir enjoy enjoy this moment
but we are so proud to have you thank
you so much I’m I’m so excited I can’t
wait to be there good let’s all right
Maris hello how’s it going coach Scott
here how you doing I’m doing great we
got you back man thank you so much man
we said when you were in the building we
were going to get you back and we got
you my man yeah no I appreciate you guys
you good D so I I don’t know what to say
um well we’re we’re excited for you you
had a great visit and and we loved
everything about you man um your tape’s
great you’re you’re a great kid great
person and uh you’re really going to fit
into our family here man great I can’t
wait I can’t wait y thank you so much
all right Maris y thank you I appreciate
it I can’t believe we gonna get some
that Notre d gold mixed in with this
blue y yep let’s do it man let’s do it
okay well we’re ex to come there be
excited to see you and
congratulations tell your we’re proud
tell your family we’ll take care of you
we’re proud of you all right I will
thank you talk to you later bye
that’s pretty awesome that’s the longest
I’ve heard Jerry Jones getting the phone
back yeah two different times it’s like
everybody just hands the phone back to
Jerry like oh okay they must really like
the key I’ll tell you what that’s not
the first time that I’ve heard uh Jerry
Jones really stand on the table for
Notre he he loves that program I wonder
how much Z Martin influences on that
they just don’t disappear they traded Li
see someone they want they say go get
them lions and Philly have just been
trading the entire weekend pick 189
here’s what I’m going to need need the
energy in the room room up all right
let’s go get let’s go I know we’re in
the meat and potatoes here sixth and
seventh round let’s freaking nail this
thing we do some jumper Jacks in the
room you want I don’t know maybe we
should stand up I’m just feeling a
little bit of some dullness right now I
ain’t having it all right we’re not
doing this we got a couple hours left
let’s drive this thing home like
Champions do it baby round six pick
189 like for the Lions you guys
predictions here huh where we going with
the Lions you know what I’m going to go
with Nathaniel Watson linebacker at of
Mississippi State I’m going to go
Gabriel
Murphy lus Brown you know what I think
it’s going to be Makai Wingo defensive
tackle at
LSU you just want to make a that’s the
actual pick yeah sorry I didn’t know I
didn’t know maai Wingo another LSU Tiger
off the board go tigas Brian I know
you’re writing it in but uh you can
probably spitball off the top of your
head about maai Wingo oh I I looked at
him a few a few times I didn’t love him
I looked at him but I I didn’t you know
I looked at him a few times let me let
me really though talk about him here you
always want to give these kids their due
and what you what you saw with them as
players yeah with Wingo though you know
I kind of felt like though it’s 6 foot
284 a little bit of a shorter guy and
you know as far as the defensive tackle
he lines up at the one and the three in
the LSU scheme he’s played some snaps
where he’s lined up over the tackle as
well on the edge he’s a Shor armed guy I
think he needs to win right off the snap
in order to have a chance to have
success uh he comes off the ball with
some initial quickness he can be
explosive he plays kind of with some
Push Pull techniques as a pass rusher he
does have a tough time dealing with
blockers that play with length due to
his lack of his own size he’ll need to
develop more pass rush moves work off
getting off blockers quicker uh when he
rushes down the middle he has a little
chance of being successful he needs to
try and be more on the edge use his
quickness but do a good job of Defending
uh he does a good job of defending the
run and get off blocks there I think
he’s got some instincts for the position
and plays it well especially when he’s
on the move here we go go Tigers there
go Tigers thank you coach maai Wingo out
of LSU 6′ 284 a little short and stocky
there but the quickest 10 yard split out
of defensive tackles that ran out of the
combine this year he is now going to
bite some kneecaps with the Fighting Man
Campbell in the Detroit Lions we now
have pick 190 and who do you think’s on
the board my goodness filthy the Eagles
let’s go ahead and run through this
Eagles draft real quick like what’s what
what they made like seven tra you know
who hasn’t picked recently that was
picking like it seemed every pick San
Francisco Washington Washington I feel
like we have had like Washington had all
their picks now we’re kind of waiting on
some no but Philly has been that piece
of gum that’s on your shoe this whole
draft like every time we look up and
around he they’re trading and doing
something else and getting on our nerves
yeah they just took Johnny Wilson uh
just a couple of picks ago so this this
Eagles draft class quinan Mitchell
Cooper de jeene they go ahead and help
help the secondary they crushed Nick
Harris to Soul with jix hunt will
Shipley the running back out of Clemson
annias Smith the wide receiver out of
Texas A&M Jeremiah Trotter Jr linebacker
out of Clemson Great Value Trevor Keegan
the guard out of Michigan I think we’re
all kind of me Johnny Wilson the wide
receiver from Florida State that’s
interesting and now this is scheduled to
be their final pick of the draft uh 190
here in the sixth round oh they went
after the center they went with Dylan MC
man NC State Center uh this pick has
changed hands a bunch it was New Orleans
to Green Bay to the Jets then to Philly
uh so Dylan McMahon will round out the
Eagles draft what do we think I mean how
do we feel about what the Eagles have
Come Away with so far in the 2024 NFL
draft Bobby did I I know they don’t have
a quarterback in your eyes but did they
get better got a hell of running backs
though but they definitely I mean
assuming they hit on Mitchell and deene
which I think we all liked secondary got
better yeah they did that’s what they
needed to do getting quinon Mitchell and
Cooper deene right out of the gates
whether they view deene as a corner or a
safety that’s going to be able to help
them throwing some athleticism off the
edge in their pass rush group with jayx
hunt that’s big time adding some speed
to the receiving core and annias Smith
relying on pedigree with jerem Charter
Jr and and then adding a Red Zone threat
and Johnny Wilson I mean all in all a
pretty solid weekend at the office for
the Eagles and I would say so for uh
probably every NFC East team right now
okay McMahon is a McMahon is a nice it’s
a nice pick go ahead and tell us a
little bit about McMahon yeah got to see
him at The Shrine bow a little bit uh
crazy athlete uh the the vertical is 32
Ines he’s really strong I put it with a
c um he’s uh he he can play across the
line but I think he is most Stout as a
center um the movement for him from him
is just very smooth fluid um he has a
very Square Stout build so he’s like
again he’s not super tall um the hand
technique is there but he and he’ll
wrestle with you uh he’s consistently
good with his hand placement and the
awareness during stunts is there which I
really really like the communication is
there from him he’s a consistent
Communicator from the center position um
he can climb the field he can climb up
to the second level quickly take on
angles um the motor and finishing at the
second level are something that you
maybe want him to shore up but other
than that like this is for where they’re
getting him at especially I thought this
is one of the better uh centers in the
draft at the you know later later rounds
this is nice this is a good pickup for
them this reminds me of the guy that
just retired for them because I think at
299 this guy might be maxed out Weight
Wise MH but you start to talk about you
know uh that you know they they played
with a light center before and this kid
I I don’t know if he’s yeah I don’t know
if he’s going to get much bigger but man
I mean he he sometimes there’s some
stumbling in his blocks you know he’s
kind of stumbling along there the hand
placement is good he understands how to
play the angles he knows how to get up
field uh he does get a little top heavy
because maybe he’s not big enough to
kind of hold on to things but you will
see some snaps where like say he’s off
balance uh he might be maxed out
weightwise I mentioned that he does a
great job of fighting to stay with his
block and finish not always successful
but this is the type of guy though that
he could reach a wide technique he could
lead on the screen yeah he’s played all
three inside positions at his career at
North Carolina State he doesn’t have
great length at times and it it does
show all right uh I just saw this after
today I was just I had it right here
goad all right you got you got it the uh
2022 Texans Browns DeShaun Watson trade
now complete you go back and you look at
what the Texans did with their picks of
course Browns easy deshun Watson and
then their sixth round pick in 2024 was
thrown in to get Jerry Judy the Texans
cleaned up with their first round pick
Kenyan green out of Texas A&M in 2022
that one hasn’t really panned out their
fourth round pick injuries injuries
injuries uh Damen Pierce uh who was
really good A couple of years ago their
first round pick last year will Anderson
Jr their third round pick last year tank
Dell their first round pick they traded
back with Minnesota ended up taking
Kamari Lasser linebacker Jamal Hill and
then their fourth round pick that they
had this year became Kaden Bullock so
quite the hall
in regards for a quarterback and now
they might have a better one that they
drafted a year ago in CJ shr yeah that
really worked out for them it sure did
that really worked out for them um yeah
very fascinating trade Hall I think from
from the Texans but that’s a team I
think over the course of the last two
seasons you look at these two draft
classes that they’ll be able to take
into the next four or five years oh
really impressive for that there you go
Bobby Bobby here’s your guy it’s about
time DJ James goes off the board right
before that it was toan Palmer the wide
receiver out of UAB I don’t know why Taj
Washington and Brendan rice just aren’t
going though either San Francisco’s
going to take Jerry Rice this kid get
ready for that one a beautiful story
they’re going to find a way to get a
pick and and do this are they anywhere
they have 215 right before the Cowboys
yeah what get ready could be Cowboys
ought to break their hearts and take the
guy to do should they should he’s a good
player he’s a good player DJ James here
going to the Seahawks it’s a nice pick
for Seattle who’s got a good secondary
Bobby tell us about your guy DJ James
yeah I mean look the the length and the
athleticism and everything else show up
really well I think that basically the
notes we’ve talked about this between
him and reonardo green are incredibly
similar just with green being more of a
physical presence in the running game uh
as opposed to James so to me I I think
that you know James is going to cause
problems for you on the edge um whenever
they they get wide because he’s just
he’s not going to be able to participate
I think you see that the thin frame
shows up with bigger receivers more than
it does with green but that was really
the only thing that separated it for me
I love the instincts uh I love the
ability to uh not get thrown off by
exotic releases stay with this man be
able to turn his hips run I I think that
DJ James was a second round player um
and to me I think that this is a great
pick for them small you see it right up
there five you know he’s 175 pounds he’s
thin but he’s a really good player can
we get the selection for this because
this is a very interesting selection
here from the
Patriots with the 193rd pick in the 2024
NFL draft the New England Patriots
select Joe Milton quarterback Tennessee
oh they went that is fascinating
considering that they they took Drake
May to start the draft and they get the
biggest arm easily in the draft class
but that’s about it he’s got this power
arm that can throw it out of the stadium
he ran no he ran well like I mean his
testing was really impress he’s that’s
fair a that’s I that’s that’s the
classic Patriot Way I know bel’s not
there anymore but that’s the classic
Patriot Way of you know taking a flyer
on a quarterback and flipping it Elliot
wolf you know Green Bay what do you do
draft Yeah the system he came up with
yeah absolutely here you know and I it
was interesting the previous pick
Spanish fort in Mobile I think uh Abrams
drain corre same school yep correct okay
both for mobile both both Corners played
and both of them were Senior Bowl guys
to be able to come back and there’s the
highest guy left on my board tan mclin
going to the Bengal we’ll get to mclin
that is an interesting pick Milton
though to the Patriots I had seen some
reports and I’m not trying to go bill
poing here okay this isn’t a me thing
but uh that he might some teams liked
him as a tight end so I don’t I don’t
know if there uh for Milton so I don’t
know if the Patriots might you know hey
he we we could try him out at receiver
but because of his athleticism we might
also be able to uh view him as a as a
position change potentially down the
road that could be interesting to see
what happens with Milton but he does
have a cannon for an arm what about
Tanner mlin the tight end out of Arizona
here going to the Cincinnati Bengals
yeah speed speed speed and and I think
receiving threat uh of the of the tight
ends in the class he’s got probably the
most uh receiving knacks um it’s route
running at all three levels it’s being
able to create separation lined up in
line inside outside he did a lot of
things for that Arizona offense last
year like I said they had multiple
weapons but um you see him hurdling guys
the athleticism is there for Tanner ml
mclin as well this is going to be a fun
weapon for Joe burrow I’m going to stamp
that right now actually didn’t did they
get another tight end that sounds right
let me let me like we said they might
have they get all they did I think I
think all was their guy because we were
talking about it earlier I know they
were interested in um Bowers and then of
course Bowers didn’t happen they did
they took Eric all in the fourth round
at Iowa respectfully they got two of the
most receiving esque tight ends of this
draft to me um that that’s some of the
things they will be able to do in
situations attack in the middle of the
field with those guys is going to be fun
yeah here’s the Bengals draft so far we
got amarius Mims Chris Jenkins the
defensive tackle I think it’s an end out
of Michigan Germaine Burton from Alabama
in the third round McKinley Jackson in
the third round from Texas M the
defensive tackle then Eric all out of
Iowa Josh Newton the corner out of TCU
and then right now Tanner mlin the tight
end out of Arizona I also just love the
last name mlin llan mlin it’s kind of
fun Sol all right we got Pittsburgh on
the clock yet again Steelers have been
having themselves a nice little draft as
well Christian mahogany my guess they
are really loading up on the offensive
line if they add mahogany to that
offensive line hall that they already
have my goodness I just if you said take
if you take my best player left on the
board yeah Christian mahogany would be
that guy so I’m going to say the
Pittsburgh Steelers take Christian hogy
Boston College C Curtis Jacobs is the
only guy left in my top
100 oh I got to see I think Jacobs might
be my H top guy too let’s look here yeah
it’s
mahogany I’m with you Ryan Watts Ryan
Watts oh Ryan Watts okay nice was that a
Dallas day guy yeah he is he’s
originally from Little Elm started his
career at Ohio State um a safety flex
and I I I I like him more as a safety at
the next level just because he’s long
and we talked about uh Kyrie Jackson
earlier today with the long and he was
able to move his hips well this is where
I feel like Ryan Watts maybe doesn’t
move as well as as some of these other
guys there was a game that I saw him in
person against UTSA a couple of seasons
ago when Josh cus who’s a big body wide
receiver just cooked him and I think
once he was able to step back and play a
little bit more Zone Concepts as that
season went on he was able to get more
comfortable that’s why I feel like he’ll
maybe be better in space as a safety
option but a really high character kid
ended up obviously at Texas uh started
every game last season and was able to
do some things for them speeds maybe not
there but the length my goodness he’s
got these arms that look like elasa girl
coming out of the secondary but uh you
see that there also a blitz ability
coming off the corner he he steps up in
the Run game as well that Big Frame it’s
able to do a lot of things that’s a fun
pick for for Pittsburgh I’ll tell you
that yeah the blitz ability is what
makes him a little bit more of a um
firecracker to me I think it could also
be aurer like in special teams I got to
watch him I mean in high school I think
it was like Frisco Independence in
Little Elm here at the star KY I call
that game Ryan like freak athlete dude’s
moving all over the freaking place but I
agree with you as a safety I think that
would be his home in the NFL that’s a
nice pick there for the Steelers uh who
in their draft is now complete as well
Troy fanu Zack Frasier Roman Wilson
Payton Wilson Mason McCormick who they
also went with along the offensive line
Logan lead the defensive tackle from
Iowa and now Ryan Watts out of Texas I
tell you what if these uh these Texas
Longhorns are flying off the board a
little bit earlier than I expected Ken
Robinson going to the Jaguar what was
that in the fifth round and now Ryan
watt’s coming here in the sixth keep an
eye on Jordan Whittington that’s a wide
receiver option that I think could work
for the Cowboys uh he’s big physical he
was marred by injury his first couple of
years but Xavier worthy and Adan I
Mitchell were eventually recruited
around him just to provide some
reliability and durability but then he
did get healthy and if you go back to
that Washington game on that very final
drive where Texas needed a play down
late they threw it up to him and they
relied on him to bring it down and he
did uh he’s also going to be a
phenomenal special teams guy as well so
there some the Texans as well with
Whittington as well so yeah that would
yeah for sure what do you think about
Ryan Watts say Texas Longhorn here Bobby
uh I mean his tape’s not very good he’s
it’s not he’s he’s all traits so he is
to me more of safety uh yeah I like him
more of safety but I mean his Corner
tape is just it’s not very good he is to
me he is to the defensive backs what
miles Cole is to the edge
rushers yeah traits and Miles Cole’s
still out there by the way has not been
selected just yet here comes the Rams
pick 196 they’ve done a great job read
me read me the Rams yeah they said they
said y’all think we can’t draft we can
draft they’re in Malibu
draft they got their picks all right
Rams Jared verse Braden Fisk they go
ahead and get both Florida State studs
Blake korm which was interesting the
running back from Michigan Cameron
kinchin who in the third round I do like
out of Miami Brennan Jackson The Edge
from Washington State and now we’ll wait
they’ve got a lot of picks left they’ve
got three picks here in the sixth round
four picks in the sixth round including
this one here and then one in the
seventh uh we got some number changes
for some current Dallas Cowboys if yall
are curious give us the number Chang Jay
Tolbert is going to be wearing number
one next season uh taking that from jron
curse demarvion overon wearing number 13
Deone Clark will be an 18 and Martavis
Bryant an 84 so few number changes here
on this draft day nothing nothing crazy
though yeah the Tober and won that’s fun
I guess that is fun you know Martavis
Bryant though I know is a player that a
lot of fans will ask about does his
potential upside and impact say like ah
we’re not really going to mess with wide
receiver in this draft my honest answer
to that question I have no bleeping idea
however comma those preseason games with
Trey Lance Duce vaugh and Martavis
Bryant being like the core of that
offense will be so much fun I’m watching
the whole thing it’ll be so much
training Camp’s going to be a blast
following those three so and Beamer
makes a good point is uh so you you said
Deone Clark going back to 18 which you
wore in college there’s a history there
Brian yeah the history yeah that’s the
that’s the number given to the player at
LSU for uh for the uh perseverance right
yeah perseverance and all that it’s a
it’s a it’s a really important number
for uh for the LSU history there uh it’s
a quarterback gosh who’s my quarterback
that that it was Ryan
peralo Matt Flynn go Tigers it’s I don’t
think it’s Matt Flynn but it’s but yeah
but it means it’s it’s a very historic
number I forgot the player that it I’m
sure people some tweet tweet in text it
in at me but yeah the 18 number it’s a
very very special number at
LSU yeah it’s pretty uh I think maai
Wingo uh just Ward who got drafted here
recently I can’t remember Matt mock yes
Matt really Matt mock is was the starter
of that huh yes Matt Mack was the
starter of that interesting yeah okay
mattye Mack was is that that uh was that
that Marcus Spears National
Title I don’t think they won a national
title under Matt mck I think who who is
the quarterback Flyn did was it Flynn is
that I’m
thinkon maybe I’m thinking of yeah when
they beat Oklahoma that Sugar Bowl yeah
yeah okay uh pick 196 we’re still
waiting as they’ve kind of hit a stall
here with the Rams selection and of
course they’re showing pukaa pukaa is
gonna get taken here who’s you know what
this if you if you’re if you go back and
Williams yeah oh is it uh yeah the uh if
you go back and think about players you
missed pukan N is a guy when you start
to look at when you start to look at 200
players and you’re like I I can’t look
at another wide receiver PUK and Thea
reminds you look at another wide
receiver there any guys you’re worried
about missing that you just kind of
found too late what PUK or this year
this year specifically this is my
biggest fear when it gets to like the
seven round six seventh round because
you can only look at so many of I’m just
grateful I’ve got guys on my board but I
always worried about having too many
guys on my board yeah because I grew up
with the Green Bay Packers where we had
150 names on the board and that’s and
that’s we drafted off of that’s
interesting that was it why do you what
do you think the strategy is behind that
to have a low number yeah you number one
you don’t want to window dress your
board but you want to make sure it just
focuses you on these are the guys we
want you know and and and you don’t
start wandering around and taking well
what about about this guy what no you
take this guy because he’s on your board
at this spot so the small board focuses
you on that it just it just tightens it
up to your vision of what you need to do
yeah Tyler Davis Tyler Davis the
defensive tackle from Clemson going here
to the Rams at pick 196 the Falcons will
be coming up next by the way if you’re
waiting on the cowboy pick here their
next pick will be at
216 of the sixth round so little bit of
a ways to go did any did anybody see
Tyler Davis besides me take it away
Brian take it away you know I always
like to give players their due when they
when they get to a when they get to this
point you know we we watch them we might
as well talk about them a lot of people
don’t do that we we try and do it our
best let me get to it real quick if I
could with Tyler Davis yeah Clemson good
initial burst off the ball he’s 6’2 he’s
301 so he’s a little bit of a smaller
guy that way but he does a good job of
keeping his Pad level down he could
split double teams with power uh he can
be difficult to handle when playing on
the Move plays with leverage power he
does some nice work on the outside
shoulder of the Guard he can be
disruptive in the way he plays he has
the strength and quickness to give
blockers problems did the Rams just
draft this guy okay yeah okay here we go
this makes a lot of sense good strike
punch he snaps where you uh he he has
snaps where you see him walk the blocker
back into the pocket hands leg driver
big pluses here love the way he doesn’t
take plays off uh he’s always moving
maximum effort a real good job of the
Twist and stunts plays with some
stoutness in the running game able to
create some surge so uh he makes a lot
of things happen on the Move good
tackler when he gets in position to
finish yeah you think the Rams wanted to
overhaul their defensive line coming
this draft my goodness uh Jared verse
Braden Fisk and now Tyler Davis yeah
adding a lot of bodies in there and
replacing Aaron Donald with two guys
yeah trying to yeah at least you get an
army of guys KY there as well correct so
young young defensive line that that
group will be able to take into the next
few years Georgia uh defensive tackle
Zion log goes to the Falcons so he gets
to stay close to his college home log at
6634 name again one more time Zion log
okay you’re starting to see these DTS
come off yeah and that’s a big boy right
there that’s a run Defender no question
about it that pick from Cleveland for
Atlanta and then Miami on the clock
they’re taking Patrick McMorris a safety
from
Cal I I saw this guy late in the in the
process I think he’s got some some
Corner ability as well uh really good in
the Run game um probably one of the
better guys I think on day three here
that you can find in the secondary to
step up and play in The Run game really
physical uh always heard High character
things too out of Cal from him um oddly
enough there’s a lot of kids from Texas
that go to Cal so you hear a lot about
uh which uh uh which leaders they have
out there and Patrick McMorris was
always brought up yeah I felt like when
I watched him it was a lot of time he
was looking for his safety to help him
and they weren’t they weren’t on the
same page no he’s fine but yeah 6′ 207
from Cal all right uh pick is in now
they’re starting to fly off the board
199 with the Saints here in the sixth
round as we got some uh some Cal video
that’s being played right now thanks to
Beamer getting some of that Boll here’s
that safety Patrick M look at the
physicality I me he just steps up and
lays a thump on you he’s a thick guy
yeah yeah he could Step Up play in the
second level he’s a really versatile
Defender I I think he could play
Anywhere uh anywhere in the secondary he
could step up and play in the second
level I this this is a fun fun player
nice closing speed the Dolphins bringing
is their new defensive coordinator after
they can
fangio I feel like that’s a Bobby
question he’s good with those things
find out while he’s pulling that up this
is probably the funniest tweet I’ve seen
from a draft prospect so far Keon
Coleman said he was at Waffle House so
much that he had had the cook’s number
pinned in his text messages Anthony
Weaver okay he had the cook’s number
pinned in his text messages that’s
amazing WAFF house he should have been a
first round Waffle House is good Waffle
House is great no slander there please I
know I know you’re big fan yeah I’m a
big big F you never been no no no I said
we would never slander waffle okay thank
you who was the player that I said on
Wednesday that I do the Waffle House
24-hour challenge for if he slipped was
it fanu I think it was I think it was
fanu that almost happened I think you
need to still do it okay I’m all right
I’m all right
he can’t do it man that sounds terrible
yeah there he is that’s our guy Matt M
Matt Mo 20 2003 BCS National
Championship yeah number less miles huh
less miles L less miles that that was
Sabin that that was 03 was Sab that was
Sabin you’re right you’re right that was
the first of his run Christian
Boyd oh man there goes christian Boyd to
the saints that kind of makes some sense
the Saints took him they’ve had a fun
little day three well they they go to
they go to you and I often because they
got pinning from you and I so they must
have their folks out there that’s fun
fun little connection at
all let’s see Saints draft so far talese
faga in the first round Kool-Aid
mckinstry in the second and then they
get rler spit rler bub means Jaylen Ford
and now Christian Boyd that’s a it’s a
fun little haul there could have taken
my quarterback Pratt here if they they
really wanted it and they want to go
with Rattler I think Rattler’s going to
be a you think he’s going be all right I
think he could be a I mean it just feel
like he fits there just fits there
Christian Boyd here we’re watching a
little bit of him on man I’m a big fan
of Christian Boyd yeah you fan of you
fan of the norn Iowa guy that’s that’s
your hood right yeah that’s I mean yeah
but also too I mean you watch him at The
Shrine Bowl practices and everybody I
mean I’m you know we’re sitting in the
stands next to some of the scouts
sometimes from other teams and it was
other Scouts there like who the heck is
this kid like I was was like oh I and I
saw the UN and I of purple and gold I
was like
represent what
what yeah he’s a large human he’s very
difficult to move he understands
leverage to be able to split the guard
and the center to get up field I mean
for you’re about to say for his size I I
think he moves really really well uh and
he’s got some wiggle as a pass rusher he
does I mean he does yeah he does a good
job of shocking and shedding to get free
from lineman Christian Boyd uh I think a
really nice pick here late in the sixth
round for the Saints if he was a little
bit bigger he would have gone higher
he’s just it’s just I think it’s the
height and the short arms what a blah
blah blah but just watch the tape yeah
he’s good Carolina next uh yeah this
next pick way back when like four trades
ago was the Cowboys Pig it was used in
the Brandon Cooks trade but now it has
found its way to the Carolina Panthers
wow okay so let’s see who uh the
Panthers are getting for brandan Cooks
okay if you’re were the Cowboys on the
on the clock who would you have taken
play that game you hate when I do this
to you guys Brendon rice Cedric Johnson
Brendan rice or Jordan Wedington that’s
probably where I would I would lean here
Jem
Bell have that wind bad pick that’d be
fun there’s a lot you can do with Jean
Bell I got I got rice Bell uh Pratt I’ve
talked about limmer Caesar from Houston
Gabe Murphy from UCLA the Ed I can’t
believe he’s still there the linebacker
from Mississippi State he led the he was
the SEC Defensive Player productive
there yeah Jacobs from Penn State King
if you want a double dip on the corners
if you want to go attack athleticism and
traits which is something that this
scouting Department definitely does like
to do the Texas Tech Edge miles Cole
that’s definitely one as well nobody
likes the the Miami defensive tackle
Taylor no Taylor’s number 100 on my
board Aisha made a bad face face the
thing about Taylor is he’s just
inconsistent he takes zero work ethic
yeah I mean you can tell when he wants
to he can be a game record sounds like
me super quick off the ball but work
ethic there’s times where he just
doesn’t care High upside though High
upside yeah you can see it I’m at the
floor a lot you’re a high upside don’t
worry about it you got a high ceiling
here’s pick 200 they’re doing uh like a
special announcement here oh my gosh we
got terrible towels being shown we got
weird things happening here uh as we
wait on the Panthers draft see at this
point in the draft I don’t think we need
this stuff like just get us the pics
what are we doing why are we stopping
acting like you got like a like
reservation I got a hot dinner day
tonight Ian rapaport’s holding a dog
what are we doing I got a newborn baby I
got to get to that’s actually very
important come on who was the guy was it
DJ last year was holding a dog that peed
on him I don’t remember that I don’t
remember that I don’t remember that
either it was a dog they were doing the
same bit and and a dog peed on DJ’s coat
what did they do to this poor dog they
they’ve made it look like it’s a it’s a
lion man or something this is sad like a
lion’s man it was I don’t know what’s
going on with that this is sad that’s
funny but yeah I think a dog peed on DJ
while he was holding him he’s like oh no
look out they can sense it he he was
probably nervous Jaden crummy the
defensive tackle from Mississippi State
man what a last name with crummy
63301 did anybody watch CR heck yeah I
did all right you’re a big goad you’re
ay guy you go first you got it H up and
get to crummy quit writing this stuff
down you know there’s the internet where
you can just pull this up it’s me it’s
me you got it no not yet but I’m saying
it’s me that writes things down I write
everything I mean I’m tracking this
thing I’m 64301 for crummy yes hang on
let me get there three technique uh
kityy ky ky kityy kityy okay yeah here
we go nice job of coming off the ball
he’s got some initial quickness to his
game long arms heavy hands uh he has
some a stout build which NFL Scouts like
64301 one his motor and effort are
excellent chasing the ball he’s quick to
locate he’ll make the play good body
control and balance for the position you
don’t see him knocked off course very
much he plays well on the Move good spin
move speed to execute good punch control
with his hands you can see him shock the
blocker with his punch he’s got physical
tools to line up at a one or a three he
can lock out on the blocker he sheds
them and control the point of attack I
think he has strength and power to take
on double teams so I kind of like this
guy there’s some to the way this guy can
fish he he’ll be 24 years old when the
season starts he’s played a ton of games
here at Mississippi State yeah his
nickname is big baby um I you talk about
like he’s actually one of the bigger uh
DTS in this draft and you know we talked
about how that’s almost a luxury at this
point um yeah you said that he has some
violence in this game you also just look
at the production I mean he has Force
fumbles he has pbus as a DT what the
heck um it’s he’s just very active at
the line of scrimmage as much as he can
be and um he’s effective in multiple
alignments as well they kind of move him
across the line um yeah he he has the
tenacity to find the ball and use his
extension to De disengage very physical
at the snap and I like how he redirects
uh plays in the back field when he gets
back there he had a wrist injury last
year uh he missed the first nine games
of the season so uh from my
understanding he would have been a
Senior Bowl he would have been in the
Senior Bowl last year even so um from
what uh Jim naggie said they were very
high on him so uh yeah he just had to
battle through that injury this year and
get back on the field pick 2011 Micah
Abraham the cornerback from Marshall
going to the Indianapolis
Colts
Indianapolis uh Miker Abraham he was
someone I I I pulled up very late I I
want to say like last week he’s a ball
Hawk he he had six interceptions last
season it was top five in FBS originally
from uh Tampa he was a local guy for the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers but uh ends up
making his way to the
Colts all right next pick we’ve got
Green Bay Green Bay we’ve talked about
their draft quite a bit let’s go ahead
and look through some of the other teams
here and just kind of recap uh how some
of these draft classes are looking we
got more dogs which you know hey I’m
always for the dogs I’m not an anti-dog
person dogs make people happy uh and we
got scouting reports on these dogs oh my
gosh there goes Travis Glover oh or
Glover okay see here’s when DJ got peed
on yes yeah he did get he did get peed
on that’s unfortunate there that’s rough
uh this is a i this is a very intriguing
pick here for the Green Bay Packers you
talk about trades with Travis Glover
tackle out at Georgia Tech or Georgia
State yeah I’m a fan I like did you do
the I I did the I I I I uh I watched I
watched this player uh he started all
five years at Georgia State played some
left guard and right tackle primarily at
left tackle team had one of the best
rushing attacks in school history during
his time there he’s massive and and
Powerful long arms he can drive
Defenders off the ball in the Run game
solid lateral movement you know I wonder
if he might be a better guard based on
his body type but he can throw people
around he’s got a violent punch
dominated lower level competition but
very intriguing tapes type pick with a
powerful anchor uh I think this is this
is an intriguing selection here for the
Green Bay Packers who are looking I
think they lost runan along their
offensive line that guy could be a good
replacement for him fiveyear starter um
he played tack most of his career
besides his senior year he did play some
guard if I’m not mistaken so that’s
intriguing some of the flexibility there
um I I think uh oh yeah so he got he had
to oh he got invited to the Senior Bowl
because of an injury to another tackle
so he was able to Showcase what he was
able to do there I feel like he shuffles
sometimes but he could be a little more
consistent with his striking but he can
keep rushers at Bay with uh his balance
and his length um I think he has
suitable play strength like you said and
he picks up to second level defenders in
the Run game very well as well so yeah
um yeah I think it’s a decent pick as
well oh will rker who kicker oh oh
that’s the first kicker off the board we
had a now we got a kicker and we’re
kissing doggies Rich Eisen over here on
the NFL Network kissing glad you guys
are having some therapy CH to Beamer by
the way you had I I saw you with uh with
glver there with that b-roll in the
background so all of our people watching
uh we do we got a scouting report on
oatmeal uh who is a puppy he’s ready
ready to play day one iaw coordinated oh
quick quicker than fast I mean that was
an old May oh he’s quicker than fast but
how about getting a kicker will uh rard
out of Alabama my gosh beams got it
ready we’ve got Alabama kicker b-roll
right here he rocks by the way like he’s
got swag a little bit to him um Alabama
if you remember like in the early days
of Sabin just dominating in Tuscaloosa
the kicker was always like their
Kryptonite like whenever they need a big
kick they just could not do it think
kick six and then multiply it by like 20
other times that that happened but will
rker yeah best kicker in Alabama history
hands down super productive SEC special
teams player of the year last year and
my goodness he’s got some swag to him
that’s what I love most about him him
kicking in a dome up in Minnesota and in
a division where um he’ll be playing in
Detroit in a dome here pretty soon
Chicago will have a dome he could have a
really good career up there in
indanapolis man the last kicker I
thought had some Swagger there were two
Dicker the kicker I don’t know if he’s
still in the league or not he might Char
bouncing around hot rod and then who’s
hot rod Rodrigo blanket ship that’s
exactly who I was going with yeah
Rodrigo with with the glasses and
everything I thought Rodrigo would be
awesome and unfortunately that didn’t
work out for him with
Indie but hopefully will Riker’s a
badass because I like I like a kicker
with swag they’re usually I mean you got
to spend a lot of time with the kickers
and your your long snapping days Brian
yeah you guys hang kind of a weird group
like you wouldn’t hang out with them no
hell no no it’s like kind like you get
made SP of if you’re hanging out with
the CER look at the leg sleeves come on
yeah you just you just you just snap it
back there and hope they knock it
through you know that’s what you got to
do you do your job all right guys have a
good day yeah I did my job we’re out of
here oh man it is very very rare that
you get a guy that’s not a weirdo very
very yeah very very rare I don’t think
uh Brandon Aubrey is that strange okay
he’s not maybe Brandon Aubrey is
different I will say this about the
Specialists here in Dallas they are a
very TI
they are three PS in a pod Trent Sig uh
Brian anger and Brandon auy I think I
remember it was like Oxnard maybe it was
last year they’re they’re cruising
around the golf cart together I think we
I think we got a little video or
something out of it all I know is like
when that kicking competition was going
on we were doing the break our show from
the tennis court and we were right to
the right about five feet of the
goalpost and those kickers couldn’t like
they if they would that’s a bad Miss
every day probably three four balls that
were coming into that area while we were
well it got real bad what was it two
years ago at the the tech
kid yeah g yeah I’ll never forget him
burying that what it was a 56 yard game
winner he’s back in Arlington talk about
the club in his hand yeah talk about
like birds of a feather because I mean
Brandon Aubrey he he’s not a he’s a good
kicker but he was around like it was
rubbing off or something like what’s
going on let’s go playo he was like let
me separate myself so y’all don’t think
that I just can’t kick around here cuz I
was starting to Clump them all together
like you know what I would have had it
at like 25 to1 odds that he would have
had a season had no
idea maybe even longer than that
seriously when the ball was flying over
in our Direction and like Amar Garcia
almost got hit like three times we turn
around and I’m like this this kicking
battle ain’t going right ain’t going
like bones fossil standing out there
with his hands on his hips like oh damn
and you know what then they let they let
the kicker go they let the one guy go
yeah viso viso let him go and then next
thing you know that guy couldn’t miss
yeah you know it’s just let me let me
stop playing let me stop playing for I
lose my job all right there’s another
pick tylon grael the UCF tackle going to
the Buffalo Bills nobody circles the
wagons like the Buffalo Bills uh we take
a look at the bills overall draft class
of course highlighted by Keon Coleman
who our guy kayin Carson did a pretty
good job against uh in that match up
against wake but Keon Coleman was their
top pick as they traded out of the first
round they got him at pick 33 Cole
Bishop the safety from Utah they needed
safety help he’s a free a good free they
got him in the second round Dwayne
Carter who I liked a lot they gotten the
third from Duke at defensive tackle they
took Ray Davis the running back from
Kentucky in the fourth Cedric vanran the
center out of Georgia in the fifth and
then uh Edan alosio the linebacker from
Washington Nick Harris’s guy in the
fifth round and now you can add in the
uh The Tackle there uh from UCF Tylan
grael did anybody watch
grael grael is a big body 66 306 big
body he was kind of getting compared to
um what’s your boy out of Georgia State
uh uh uh oh Glover Travis Glover yeah
Glover I don’t know why I keep saying
Glover Glover yeah but Cowboy worm came
the traits were uh very similar there
yeah yeah here’s the war room we’re
we’re I guess it’s coming huh yeah we’re
about 12 picks out we’re getting
closer no Derek just told to put it on
that’s what the thing well that’s fine
with me
conversation is it 12 some of the guys
that are still available though that are
interesting I mean Brendan rice I that
it’s surprising to me I do love Jem Bell
I think he could be a fun player uh bo
limmer mahogany did mahogany ever go
no’s no way right he still hasn’t gone
he hasn’t gone can I ENT show on deshun
finwick out of Oregon State running back
finwick yeah I can’t say s me sell me on
sell me on a finwick yeah I just think
there’s a little bit more juice there
than compared to the rest of the guys
we’re we’re we’re scraping the bottom of
the barrel let me let me start with that
but he’s got size 6 foot2 he played at
IMG so I mean there’s there’s a little
bit of lineage there he went to Oregon
State um and he uh he was sitting behind
Damen Martinez last year at Oregon state
who’s originally from Lewisville and man
super productive he’s going to end up
finding his way probably to Miami in the
transfer portal but um even as a red
shirt senior last year was still able to
pick up 515 yards five and a half yards
per Pop um doesn’t really have a lot to
the receiving aspect of things but I
think he’s a good he’s a good running
back you can just kind of give and trust
that he can pick up three four five
yards I mean that’s that’s we’re
scraping the bottom of the barrel here
but are it’s size and I think there’s a
little bit of juice there me my top
running back left is Frank Gore Jr I’ve
got him ahead of jaar Jordan I didn’t
love Jordan uh and I think that he’s got
higher Pro upside than shider although I
don’t I don’t dislike shider he’s just
not bringing any juice but I guess Blake
Watson could be a guy at a Memphis
Jordan
yeah but hey at this point I get it like
all right let me ask you guys this
question when you’re when you’re naming
these guys are they better than anybody
who’s currently on the roster that’s
that’s where you I think Blake Watson
could be if you if you could tell me
somebody that’s better than you know and
I’m not talking about Zeke and I’m just
talking about the guys who as you as you
look at the depth chart is there are
they are these guys that we’re talking
about better if that’s if that is not
the case then it’s not worth it no then
then go draft you know go go on your
board and there’s nothing wrong with you
maybe the tight end with bell okay that
won’t work Nathaniel Watson maybe
everybody doesn’t like another
linebacker but you know that to me
there’s a guy that was the you know was
SEC Defensive Player of the Year I don’t
you know maybe he’s not for with these
guys you mentioned Taylor he’s not a you
know maybe he’s not a tryhard guy
Bryan rice you know I I don’t like I
said that that’s a wide receiver that’s
you watch him I mean you watch Caleb
Williams play this summer gun went out
there and made plays for USC you know
maybe there’s something that they don’t
like about him I mentioned Nelson Caesar
from Houston is an edge go Watson yeah
jaar Jordan and Watson both going back
to back so jaar Jordan the running back
at a Louisville 510
193 he goes to Houston and then
Nathaniel Watson the linebacker at a
Mississippi State uh just went to the
Cleveland Browns I mean when it came to
jaar Jordan and at this point in the
draft I think was a good good time to
get him running back at Louisville 510
185 he split time there with Isaac gendo
who I thought was better but Jordan
suffered a season ending injury in 2020
as a red shirt freshman after starting
three games you know he’s he got it’ll
just chip away and then he’s going to
break a run he’s got some bur shows long
speed he’s got skinny legs though which
kind of bothered me M really good
footwork probably best I think in an
outside Zone type of running scheme
where he can stretch it out and then use
that speed to get up field but he’s got
good balance very agile good blocker
shows instincts to pick up rushers From
The Far Side as well so maybe I like
this guy more than I originally thought
actually these notes aren’t bad yeah
this is this is what I had to say about
him let me let me find my notes Here
intriguing uh downhill Runner with
intriguing three down ability a
productive Runner um that almost always
sheds the first tackler and the contact
balance is what stood out to me um um I
you see him separating out there in the
open field I don’t think he can
necessarily do that at the NFL level
that’s where they relied on gindo a
little bit more uh but I I think he can
be a guy in short yard situations and in
pass blocking situations that makes him
a three down uh a three down back in
some in some ways rarely gets caught in
the back field um even at that 59 193
pound frame he plays a lot bigger than
that look at those skinny legs though
man like look at those legs it’s just me
like like we talk about like pet peeves
like stuff that bothers us an ick I
don’t want it’s an ick an I can’t have a
running back with with little stems for
legs I need I want a powerful lower body
with my Runner I I get what you’re
saying uh no I I agree with Nick like
that was one thing that stuck out to me
about him is the fact that like there
were several times you’ll watch him and
you look at those legs and you look at
his frame and like get some squats going
oh you really just going to run through
this person right now yeah he’s little
he does play a little crazy like a
little crazy like that uh you mentioned
the The Zone concept and the way he you
think he’ll be good at I think he’ll be
good at some outside Zone he captures
the edge well as well so yeah I mean I I
I liked jar I liked him we I talked I
think we talked about him earlier I this
is a good value for for him to go I had
him in the six I mean this is right
around where I thought he would go
Nathaniel Watson uh going to the Browns
62233 a he’s going to fit in the
linebacker from Mississippi State yeah I
mean that was a recent Senior Bowl guy
you probably got to see him out there I
mean Brian we’ve talked about this led
the SEC in tackles and sacks with 10
downhill player great College production
he’s asked to move and cover the slot
but he just doesn’t do it well yeah I
just didn’t think he had great lateral
instincts can get juked out of his shoes
at time he was just stiff but downhill I
mean he can hit he’s a really really
good tackler just not a real Twitchy
type of guy he also did really I mean I
yeah I don’t like be that person but I
just think last year be that person well
he he battled back last year had a good
season the year before like the year
that he was uh the best defender in the
SEC was following some off the field
stuff or whatever so I thought maybe
that had to be even though he was able
to somewhat redeem himself and show
himself as a responsible player it might
be a reason why some of these teams were
a little later on them too Michael
Jerell yeah out of Finley University uh
HBCU Allstar heard a lot of good things
out of him out of the HBCU allstar game
that’s all traits 65 294 he’s going to
need some time but that’s a fun one to
take Seattle likes to do that man
Seattle’s taking some Tracy guys
here uh and then Dylan uh Dylan lob or
LA
lobby lobby New Hampshire okay I had
heard some stuff about him out of New
Hampshire I didn’t end up getting to him
fun talk about him if you’re looking at
if you’re looking for maybe if you can
scrape some FCS love together uh Dylan
Lobby out of New Hampshire he was a
Senior Bowl guy uh loved what he did as
well in the as like a potential Gadget
option he plays in the slot plays in the
outside also Jaden Sheran out of
Monmouth man talk about production go
and find Jaden Sheran and look up his
stats from last Austin School uh yeah
yeah yeah so a little bit of connection
there too that’s that’s why we got the
great Brian brought us in the room come
on now um yeah maybe he can find a
Kardashian along the way Jaden
sht yeah but Dylan Lobby he’s physical
um I don’t I don’t know if he brings
juice but look at what he brings in the
receiving game he’s lined up all the way
outside and he’s able to haul in passes
he was doing this at the Senior Bowl a
little Danny Woodhead yeah 59 206 he’s
got that wide frame it works in pass
protection uh it’s going to be an
intriguing follow wherever he ends up
Landing I’ll tell you that yeah because
he’s not like when we when we were
talking about like who’s running some
running backs that you think are cool I
wanted to name him but when you watch
him he is giving receiver he’s not
giving running back like that like some
of the things he’s able to do off the
line of scrimmage and the route running
and stuff like that he’s sharp in his
route running as well he can catch out
the back field too but yeah I mean he
even he even shows his hands like like a
receiver like he just does some things
that a receiver es that I wouldn’t
that’s why I didn’t recommend him when
we were talking running back early cuz
CU you you don’t think of a runner he’s
explosive but not in the way that I
think you’re looking for you know dang
Bobby H you okay yeah oh Joshua cardi
went I just felt like I haven’t I
haven’t heard his voice in so long
Joshua cardi went the running back going
now that’s the AFC team that I talked to
that means there’s two draftable running
backs left on the board dang trer andon
he’s been over here trying to figure out
why Christian mahogany is slipping right
that’s medical it’s medical M what about
Brendan rice Brendan rice doesn’t have
any Flags okay that’s weird don’t you
think the film the film for Brendan rice
is is good and I if if you were to say
hey give me somebody I maybe don’t want
to fight for and I I’m I’m okay with
loading up on linebackers and if you
guys feel like we need an edge another
Edge to you know to to to give some work
to I think there’s some I think there’s
some names on the board that I can I can
work with there uh you know nobody’s
wants to go with me on Caesar from
Houston maybe too much there Gabe Murphy
I keep mentioning I I like Gabe Murphy
but I’m also uh you know North Texas and
he transfers from nor Texas to UCLA I’d
love that okay you want to go
linebackers then you know we could talk
about we could talk about Jacobs from
Penn State right yeah would be a guy
that if you want to add that guy I mean
how about these safeties I’ve got I’ve
got three safeties uh on the board is
braid uh the kid from I believe it’s
from Maryland bo bo Brady is that Brady
is that how you said it Bo Brady at the
Senior Bowl I I was talking with one of
their defensive backs coaches he said
that was the most cerebral defensive
back that they had on their team I
believe he was on National Williams from
Miami would be a guy that I would look
at and then there’s Proctor from Ohio
State so I’ve got you know I’ve got
those guys I’ve still got King on the
board the corner I would take a crack at
him just because I know I think he could
play but there okay yeah there goes
christian mahogany Okay Christian
mahogany sixth round pick 210 to the
Detroit Lions is a good pick for the
Lions man uh mahogany lasting till this
point was pretty shocking so Lobby
coming off the board that was why we
brought him up right yeah okay I
completely missed that I thought you
were just bringing him up as a potential
option I just want to make sure that was
no I was like what what is he doing like
why is he still out there but uh I’m I’m
glad that finally Christian mahogany has
been selected I I was really impressed
watching some of his tape personally I
mean when when you go and I know he was
a shrine bow guy he was here uh but
Christian mahogany was one of those
dudes he missed uh his red shirt Junior
season in 2022 due to injury and I guess
now he was flagged for a medical but
he’s got experience on both the left and
the right side of the line I think he
plays mean super tough fires off the
ball and run he’s aggressive and he’s an
aggressive polar that gets to the second
level uh he’ll put defenders in the
ground play and he plays a little top
heavy but he’s a powerful punch he can
win one-on-one uh long arms not the
quickest lateral movement has but he’s
he’s wide right can give up leverage
that can give him some problems but he’s
got some nastiness man in the Run game
and I think he uses the arm extension
well to keep Defenders off of him in
pass Pro uh so there’s there’s a good
pick there for the Lions and Kamal Haden
going to uh the Chiefs here out of
Tennessee 61196 corner I did see this
guy so let me write I did see him play
and I got a report on him I want to give
this kid his due if I can uh let me get
there if I can you can keep talking
while I’m trying to get yeah I’ll kind
of update what’s going on in the war
room here we got J St having a
discussion Mitchell points sharing a
laugh and Mike McCarthy on the phone
here for those that are that can’t see
on the stream and are listening to us uh
will mcleay I think is having a
conversation too it looks like
preliminary conversation but we’re about
five picks out uh don’t see a positional
coach just yet but uh go ahead with
Kamal hadon was a 6119 at Tennessee he’s
an agile smooth sticky player he’s shown
the ability to run with receivers on
vertical routes he’s got ideal size and
speed for the position he could flip his
hips quickly and able to adjust he did
not allow a touchdown pass to a receiver
this year he’s not going to get involved
in ton of tackles he’s only had 18
missed several games in the injury he
dealt with a shoulder problem he’s
missed five tackles doing that as well
uh he’s really not interested in the Run
support part of it but he’s got the
speed to to mirror he’s changed of
Direction the agility is outstanding the
footwork anticipation and he’ll compete
in the route though he’s I’ve seen him
bait quarterbacks into some bad throws
off and off coverage he generally plays
outside it’s rare rare that you ever see
him in the slot but I like the
aggressiveness the catch points things
like that uh he just doesn’t tackle all
that well very deceptive with his eye
usage um yeah and he definitely thrives
in man um the awareness is there from
him as well as far as spacing goes so
yeah I wanted to just add on to that
about him all right we’re waiting on
Jacksonville to pick 212 as we still got
the worm cam up about four picks away
here for the Cowboys in the sixth round
I mean honestly at running back if you
were to go that way I think the only one
to me and I do like Frank or Jr but I
don’t know he’s smaller that two teams
had him as just a free agent that IAL to
nobody had the two teams I talked to
didn’t have draftable grade on him and
then maybe Blake Watson because he’s
he’s interesting I mean he can give you
special teams value he’s a good receiver
he gives you speed I mean he he gives
you an added element that you don’t
currently have on the roster from some
of your other rece running backs can I
ask something do you guys like uh the
gentleman uh is it Whittington Wht yeah
Nick Harr guy do you like him yeah or
Ryan
floro floro more cuz floro for sure I’m
feeling floro like and he’s still there
yeah I would Cowboys haven’t had a lot
of contact with floro as far as I know
he was a Senior Bowl guy though back
toback really productive season out at
seimo he was originally at uh Central
Missouri then made his way to Community
College Iowa Western Community College
and Community College products have been
really productive for the Cowboys um
Demarcus Lawrence was a was a Joo guy um
TJ bass was a pick that they made uh or
an undrafted guy that they picked up
last year that was a Jo guy um but um
yeah Ryan floro made his way to Simo and
man I I have a friend up on the Simo
staff and he was always a raving about
how he is uh so coachable and whenever
he came into the building from then to
the time that he left uh completely
different player completely different
receiver has a little bit of Debo traits
in the fact that he’s come out of the
back field he can line up inside outside
he is athletic as hell 444 uh I believe
it was a 39 and a 12 inch vertical the
broad was really was really far 11 inch
broad as well I mean that’s that’s up
with all the top receivers in the entire
draft um I think the biggest concerns
though he he kind of gets thrown off his
line a little bit too often he’s going
to need to focus on his physicality and
rout running because he has it in ball
carrying but he blocking too so yeah he
has the physicality you just want him to
get more is in more balance more contact
yeah yeah probably so there and then
Jordan Whittington I mean I’ve touched
on him a lot today already but um I feel
like that guy is going to be a longtime
pro at least on special teams uh but
even the receiving ability he’s got this
big frame out of quero high school down
in Central Texas originally a five-star
Prospect uh made his way to Texas and
battled injury my goodness through those
first two years it felt like he got hurt
every other game that he kept he came
back in that’s part of why he’s flagged
yeah and teams have him flagged for
medical yeah so whenever he’s kind of
gone through this draft process that’s
been the biggest knock but um he um he’s
he’s got that coach for he’s got that
coach mentality coaching mentality too
and uh a team a teams player um and uh
he’s a big body guy that you can line up
inside outside he’s got long speed very
long speed with long strides it didn’t
quite show up at the combine but if you
throw him in like a 80 yard dash you’ll
see where that long speed eventually
comes into play um but I I think both of
those guys would be fun options here
that’s if they go receiver I mean you
could also go you could also go edge if
you want to feel like you need to add
depth there do you feel like you need to
add depth on the offensive line I mean
we talked with li still there Matt Lee
is there what about
tackles tackles I’ve got Driscoll left
Driscoll’s a fun one yeah Driscoll’s
interesting he met with the Cowboys at
the Senior Bowl you also got a Nathan
Thomas out of Louisiana Lafayette who
was a shrine bowl guy um Adam Dana out
of Howard although I feel like he’s a
priority free agent um but he’s super
Tracy um who about cus at wide receiver
Josh cus R cus and um and Brendan rice
is still there I would I rice is my
highest rated player uh uh Nick R sephus
and
uh Taj Washington a lot of the same
player no cus is a big body guy big big
I would rather have Washington myself
yeah for sure yeah and Taj is still
board isn’t he
yes I was going to yeah I got some extra
eyes on him with these USC receivers
yeah maybe they think uh you know it was
all Cayla Williams will having a it’s
all the system a clapping pick’s been
made all right so we got a pick in uh
let’s see if we can find out if there’s
a coach we’re about to get the phone
call here from will mlay they look
excited Mitchell Point looks
pumped Mitch the point was giving Chris
Von some real real love right there
that’s seems like he might be one of his
guys but so on TV we’re three picks
behind yeah yeah that’s good good so
we’re gonna have to do that all over
again what we just did probably that
were we probably Cam little uh the
kicker from Arkansas goes Steve
Little’s son Steve little was a kicker
at Arkansas way back in the day shimer I
know Cam little is offer shimer Cam
little was the last draftable specialist
that one of the teams I talked to had
there’s Zimmer so Zimmer just lost
Zimmer put Palms down he says I just
lost out it’s fine it’s fine yeah uh you
know Cam little is definitely I think
related Stuart MH oh Stuart Little yeah
they have the same ears okay see I
didn’t know because there was cam cam
little Cam little I I thought there was
a kicker at Arkansas yeah Steve little
oh I I don’t know thought maybe that was
a nephew or something like that yeah but
anyway so anyway we’re still waiting on
the Rams right yeah we’re waiting on the
Rams they’re they’re they’re holding us
up picks away three pick three
television picks away no Todd is uh
Cam’s uh father okay so no Steve little
connections here okay maybe I thought
brother of Stewart little though okay uh
we’ve got Curtis Jacobs uh if it’s an
offensive player I’m kind of think
Brennan
rice what do you guys think or do you
think Blake Watson he maybe a weapon
think Jem
Bell I don’t know with with shimer
getting excited take a tight end I don’t
feel like he’s kind of like a lot of
everything he can kind of be whatever
you want he don’t count you don’t
count one yet that I was like everybody
else has had a we got Zimmer standing
behind the phones here or behind the
Jones at least he pacing too shoten
Heimer still in the room to our right is
that that’s Robert Prince to the yeah
that’s Robert Prince all right pick a
receiver here Taj Washington Brendan
rice or Ryan floro I’d think I would
love
floro what do you tell me about Flor
what youing I thought I thought we did
it already did we do him already yeah we
just did oh what I was doing I’m sorry I
I was I’m sorry I was really productive
really productive guy at SCS level
Senior Bowl standout that I think
stamped his Mark as a as a Draft pick on
day three um my bad I no no you’re fine
he he’s he’s just QB friendly reliable
physical he’ll block on the outside I
did see him though myself I was just I I
I was just curious what you guys thought
about him as well we like him he uh you
know Nick’s only knock him was like him
get kind of getting knocked off his spot
sometimes you know like you want him to
be a little bit stronger at the top of
the route but other than that like he
does a lot of things let’s see what I
got on this kid man I I I he’s fun he’s
he’s a he’s I’m glad I’m glad I studied
I was because it was one of those late
okay you need to study this guy
Southeast Missouri
61202 uh good-looking player physically
plays with an element of smoothness to
his game good balance body control uh
working up the field along the sidelines
does a nice job of catching the ball
away from his body feel like he extended
his hands in order to make adjusting
catches I’ve seen him catch the ball
behind him gather himself and then get
into the end zone uh he will often be
used in the Deep passing game with some
success but where he thrives is
underneath where his routes he shows the
ability to catch the ball on the move
with no issues he’s a natural catcher he
doesn’t labor or struggle in this area
at all uh it said snatch the ball out
the air uh concentration difficult
receptions made easy easy I would not
say that he runs an expansive route tree
but good enough senior bull was a great
opportunity to showcase his talent and
he did uh if there could be a downside
for him it is he’ll be 25 years old
later this season so that’s little bit
an older guy that is fascinating yeah he
he started at Central Missouri uh the co
season really impacted his ability to
develop early on he had to make his way
to Joo um he was a late J guy as a
result that Co year he used it at Simo
and then he was able to to move forward
but you liked him though yeah I did I
yeah I liked this guy absolutely I liked
him for sure who did as I was talking
who did the Rams take they took Jordan
Whittington Rams took Jord oh wow there
goes Jordan Whittington to Texas from
Texas to the Rams that’s a good pick for
the Rams gosh the Rams did yeah I like
that pick for the Rams uh him and
Cameron Dicker are really good friends
too so that’s fun that they get to they
get to link back up yeah he’s a great
slot receiver I mean you talk about
we’ve mentioned the high school football
a lot but his state championship game at
quero oh the best performance of all
time I think it was he had 250 plus
receiving yards and 200 plus rece
rushing yards and receiving yards it was
like a total of 450 it was
Unreal he ran Tex Arcana Pleasant Grove
out of the building yeah he did by
himself I think he played both ways too
in that game he did yeah played some
safety too had to pick six yeah he did
that’s right that’s crazy yeah Jordan wi
good for him man going to the Rams there
pick 213 in the sixth round Bengals up
next followed by the 49ers and the
Cowboys Cowboys pick is in we believe
it’s an offensive play
uh because we had Brian shimer in there
getting pretty excited so we’ll have to
see and wait is it a wide receiver is it
finally a running back do they go back
to the offensive line
well my guess it’s probably a skill
player that would be my guess yeah with
Prince on the phone I have to be it’s a
receiver but which receiver receiver
yeah is it
San Cedric Jones just went or Cedric
Johnson excuse me from Old Miss brended
rice would be so much fun for the
storyline at least oh God it’d be great
that’ be that dominate the uh the press
conference
today Cedric Johnson was top player left
on the board for an NFC team last
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round you may see him I did you want
just give him his due because he got
picked uh well he gave Alabama’s tackles
hell uh yeah they struggled with him
they struggled with his length and his
power which he displays often he has uh
fluid hips and coverage when he’s asked
to do it when he drops he doesn’t look
awkward I mean he is kind of big but he
don’t look awkward um he attacks Lyman
their outside hand with a Vengeance he’s
very aggressive with the hand fighting
he’s very tall athletic I do think he
can improve his contact balance to shed
and Tackle more consistently um but he
he played 46 total games throughout his
collegiate career a lot of football he’s
had some good experience and um he looks
like a nice guy but he’s not I like that
if you see his face you’re like oh this
guy looks no he’s not he’s not nice on
the field so yeah those are my few notes
about the player he’s not he’s not nice
he’s not nice Jared Kingston from USC at
the guard at 6436 going to the San
Francisco 49ers they’re trying to keep
replenishing that offensive line the
guy’s got guard tackle Flex uh at USC
played kind of both spots there he did
test very well at the combine but now
the Cowboys finally on the clock oh it’s
happening the pick is in oh dang we
await the Dallas Cowboys selection fin
guesses as to who this could be I’m just
going to go with Brendan rice he’s my
highest rated wide receiver that’d be
kind of crazy if Jerry Rice’s kid was
Dallas Cowboy did you say that Flor the
I’m gonna that’s what I’m did he did he
visit floro he was he was not somebody
that they made a lot of contact with
they may have met with him at the Senior
Bowl since he was a Senior Bowl guy but
I’m not sure of that 100% I if they want
to lean on a guy that they know or that
they have brought in um John Tre or I
forget we’re going receiver here um
I don’t think there’s any I think it’s
him or rice Ryan floro there it
is yes Southeast Missouri State all
right Aisha tell us about floro I again
yeah again how many times we going talk
maybe we got people that are just tuning
in I mean freak athlete no question
about it you’re right but Ryan floro
Southeast Missouri State all righty so
um one of the first things that stood
out to me uh was just his ability to be
physical as a Blocker on the outside and
the screen game um this is this is a guy
that plays with strong hands he he’s
very smooth like Brian said out of his
releases he uses his length at the catch
point and he has the ability to stop on
a dime it causes he can cause a lot of
bad angles and M tackles the run after
catch with him is strong that’s why Nick
P the comparison to some Debo esque
stuff everybody wants somebody like that
um very high effort QB friendly player
um one like we talked about it earlier
like him something he can approve on is
just being a tad bit stronger at the
line of scrimmage and being able to get
through some of uh some of press and uh
some of his releases but other than that
I think that this guy is a weapon that
can come in here and make a difference
is he does he have any return ability do
you have any special team ability as
well okay fism absolutely no yeah this
is he’s a heck of an athlete and so
that’s why I was like if you had to
choose between him and and he hasn’t
really had a whole bunch of health
issues and things like that as well
which is obviously was the concern with
witon that’s why I was asking about him
a few minutes ago but yes I’m excited
this just got me hype I’m excited for
let’s go we’ve all oh Bo limmer just
went to the Rams it’s a good late pick
but Ryan floro your latest Dallas Cowboy
the ideal prototypical size for the
position at
61202 certainly uh tested very very well
that 437 short shuttle the 44 uh 40 yard
dash any nuggets uh Nick Bobby anything
you got here in floro yeah 16th all
Draft pick from Southeast Missouri State
the the their last one was in 2019 Drew
Forbes went to the Cleveland Browns um
but um a second receiver all time taken
by Southeast Missouri State Willie
Ponder went in the 2003 draft to the New
York Giants but yeah you see this
well-built lower half uh but with these
long legs that that create these long
strides out in the open field he’s going
to be a playmaker he’s going to have
some very fun training camp moments and
and preseason moments I think he’s going
to be a guy that can be a reliable
Target for the Cooper Rush TR l battle
at training camp that Steven Jones has
talked about and you see him taking
balls out of the back field I think he
can do a lot of that we saw that with CD
lamb last year but if if um Mike
McCarthy wants to rely on a couple of
other weapons to do those similar type
of things then floro if he’s able to
make the roster which I believe he has
the capability of doing so then he can
kind of do those type of things um the
athleticism is what will always stand
out to me when I’m talking about Ryan
floro and you see that and him being
able to break off the line granted he
needs a little bit more physicality off
the line but that athleticism it gets
him out of that it gets him out of that
cannon in a very very quick uh very
quick facet um 39 12 inch vertical 11
foot broad jump both of those among the
top of the receiver group uh in the
entire NFL draft uh this is a great
value pick I had him in the fifth um I
think this is a really good value to get
a really good player his size and
athleticism checks a lot of their
markers that they have internally for
what they think prototype receiver
should look like like if you look at
just the fact that you know he’s six and
a half he’s running 44 he’s got almost a
40in vertical an 11t broad good weight
like like strong it just it checks a lot
of the physical characteristics and you
know Chris vaugh just told us earlier
today and Chris vau looked really
excited about the pick Chris Von told us
today like athleticism is something
that’s so rare like those traits are so
rare you you take chances on them
because you know that’s that’s the
hardest thing to
acquire yeah my goodness uh and our
buddy Michael gellin putting out that he
produced the fastest GPS time during
position drills at the combine the wide
receiver who did so in
2023 be puka AA so that’s uh that’s
pretty good to follow there for our guy
Ryan floro your latest Dallas Cowboy who
will get the secret audio from and get
him on the phone here uh in just a
moment of course uh uh live his hometown
Hazel Crest Illinois and out of
Southeast Missouri State throughway of
Central Missouri and then Iowa Western
Community College so excited to get to
chat with Ryan floro and yeah he’s going
to be fun to watch man we get him out
there for for OTAs and then of course uh
mini camps and then training camp
they’re out knisha we got your guy uh I
mean I ain’t gonna say all that he like
I’m putting him as your dude my guy I
just was wondering you’re giddy over if
he was gonna come up I mean I guess I’m
giddy I I’m ex I think I think part of
me is just excited like just to touch
the receiver position as a whole cuz I
still feel like there is there’s depth
there kind of sort of not really a
little
bit okay some of the other picks that
just came off the board as we await to
talk with Ryan floro Bo limmer Center
out of Arkansas goes at 2117 love that
pick for the Rams man wait what yeah the
Rams going ahead and getting B Limer
Vibes right it’s just they just be
vibing like cuz what yeah Bo Li Tyler
Texas baby Beast Texas just want to
shout that out real quick I want to give
do if I can absolutely is that cool I
mean cuz I thought he might be a
consideration for the Cowboys if it got
down if you were trading back and those
kinds of things he was the starting
center for the Razer backs he spent the
majority of his career at guard to be
honest and I think he might be a better
Center uh but he doesn’t have a lot of
bulk to him but he wants to get really
close to the defender and attempt to
control him by putting his hands on the
outside frame and kind of wrestling him
I think he’s got some agility the hand
placement could be a little off but once
he gets a hold his man he’s not going to
let let go solid positional run blocker
has a nasty side to his game in the way
he attempts to finish there snaps where
he gets a little sloppy with his
technique but it’s just will you know
get the job done he’s good pass blocker
he’ll sit down on his man he’ll hold him
off there’s some knee and uh there’s
some knee and balance there to the way
the you know the where sometimes he gets
a little Rag doed and you got to watch
that but he’s not on the ground much he
can he but he comes really close uh
appears to handle power power well when
to deal with a good position second
level blocker understands the position
how to position himself in order to
secure the block uh I thought it was a
little slow getting out on screens and
stuff a couple of snaps where they could
have called him for being downfield but
they didn’t his lack of bulk might scare
some teams but super tough in the way he
plays yeah I love that pick I I think
that’s a steal to get him at this point
from the Rams you mentioned the position
flex but he just understands leverage I
think the I think he’s a really really
fun player Devin lery the quarterback
from Kentucky then ends up going to the
Baltimore Ravens that’s a guy that
started a bunch there at Kentucky 38
games uh played you know he did have a
lot of coordinator change there as well
but I mean I I can’t believe Michael
Pratt hasn’t been taken that’s what I’m
saying I I don’t understand like liri
okay if if you don’t if Pratt’s off the
board then fine but what is going on why
is Michael Pratt still around L
specifically there are teams who think
like he’s got NFL armed talent and
that’s that’s just the biggest thing
yeah it’s people gambling on arm Talent
yeah he’s got good zip and ball
placement there’s some throws he makes
the the he does show some touch
especially passes down the seam he will
step up in the pocket while keeping his
eyes down the field I think he does a
really nice job of staying active in the
pocket he can find the receivers when
things are breaking down around him he
doesn’t panic he doesn’t appear stressed
I could see him work quickly through his
reads he does a nice job of extending
plays he’ll hang in the pocket in order
to deliver the ball he can move
effectively in order to throw on the Run
not a major threat as a runner but gets
the job done when he has to can really
deliver the ball in the short game the
touch kind of things there are some
accuracy to the side of his game his
size might turn some Scouts off he’s 61
he’s 215 uh but the abilities there I
kind of compared him a little bit to a
Jimmy Garoppolo and I thought he showed
up well in the shrine game in what he
was able to do for himself there all
right so uh that’s some of the other
picks as we wind down the sixth round uh
dayquon Hardy the cornerback from Penn
State so kin King
still hasn’t gone Hardy his teammate
from Penn State 59 179 now he’s got the
speed 438 in the 40 and that does match
up on the tape I think with Hardy did
you did you get to take a peek at him
Nick no I did not I was more so focused
on yeah he’s a traits guy uh now I I
he’s also a punt returner so he brings
some special teams value as well but my
gosh I’m really surprised he’s been
drafted ahead of his teammate here in
this situation waiting on the Bucks pick
220 uh round six they are next up up
here uh and then the Cowboys will be
back on the clock again coming up at
pick 233 of round seven so they’ll have
the 13th pick of the seventh round after
they’ve taken Ryan flornoy the wide
receiver out of Southeast Missouri State
in the
sixth on kayin King since you’re asking
about him there I had texted a team
there was one team that told me they had
him as
undrafted wow who kayin King I didn’t
love him but I I I figured he’s worth a
draft pick at least but the the P State
wow that’s that’s rough I I mean I
thought the kid could play I you watch
somebody’s going to spend some money on
if not if he does get picked in the
seventh round but man I maybe I I don’t
believe I’d miss the guy I I think the
thing about it is it’s got to be the
speed it’s got to be that 40 and stuff
like that so I don’t know man I saw a
pretty productive player there myself
it’s all it’s the 40 we talked about it
I think we talked about it yeah when we
came back yeah I mean his teammates
faster so that makes sense oh Elijah
kleene the UTEP guard going to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers with the final pick of
the sixth round glin super super steady
there at utap during his time there with
the miners yeah uh really honed in on
the interior uh he was another guy that
I kind of saw later in later in this
process I’m kind of running on running
up on those dudes now uh but um find my
notes Here I believe pass protecting was
what stood out yeah pass protecting was
really what stood out for him and
especially if you can find an interior
guy that can create the depth of that
pocket that’s what stood out to me from
him for the miners uh I think just being
able to do that in the time that he did
uh really impressive out there in El
Paso all right the seventh and Final
Round is underway Buffalo will be the
first team uh on the board here in the
seventh round is we’re at pick 221 we’ll
go all the way to pick
257 which will be Mr relevant of course
the most recent Mr relevant that’s
turned out to be not so irrelevant Brock
pie taken out Iowa state with the San
Francisco 49ers Michael Pratt this time
around maybe maybe it’s Michael Pratt
the team that holds that selection would
be the New York Jets as of right now
okay so they need to has it throw
another quarterback in that room right
maybe didn’t they just draft Ile didn’t
they just draft one they just did uh
they did take a quarterback was it
Milton I think the Patriots took Milton
that’s right uh let’s seeck the Jets
took somebody we were like what the hell
are you
doing J T Jets
here we go um Jordan Travis I don’t
think that’s what the hell were you
doing oh that’s right no I like Jordan
Travis yeah and he’s got time now to get
healthy man this is like the Jets have
some fun guys that I really enjoyed in
the process uh Malachi Corley brillan
Allen Isaiah Davis and quantz stigers it
was like that last year I felt like with
them too yeah just some just some guys I
enjoyed not necessarily for here on a
couple of them but um really fun a
running back Duo of Bray and Allen and
Isaiah Davis you think they wanted to
add size to that room
God sure did they added a lot of ss how
do you think these guys at the Cowboys
fit into what they’re doing they’re
players if you look at overall where
they with their draft right now with
their draft how do you feel like that
that you know give me give me an idea of
where you just maybe not the you know
the position but maybe is this a
potential starter is this guys are going
to compete how do you feel like if there
if you look at their draft I I think you
look at it and you see um two potential
starters uh early on
with Tyler giden and Cooper BB at Center
do you think BB is going to be the
starting they talked about him like they
really believed he could play center
this morning there there’s a lot of
there’s a lot of uh love around him at
Center and that was what was
communicated from Kansas State Brock
Hoffman get the first crack at that
thing you think and then or is it plug
and play on BB I think they’re gonna let
him compete they’ve they’ve mentioned
like even the tone in which they’ve been
like well Hoff’s not going to go down
without a fight in a way you know I
think Solari likes Brock Hoffman a lot
and uh and I think what this building
does yeah what coach McCarthy was saying
yesterday with like this is exactly what
he wants along that room with the
competition so I think yeah you get a
competition between BB and Hoffman
salari last year not even this offseason
last year when we talked to him was
talking up Hoffman so I mean we’re
talking about he has been high on
Hoffman as a potential contributor since
well before they were without botes and
so I I think that he absolutely feels
comfortable with Hoffman’s starting well
I I hope they give him a shot but the
competition would be healthy uh for both
of them so I I want whoever’s the best
player for the position to be out there
regardless and so yeah with with that
and then with marshan nean I think Maran
nean will is this is this think rot
rotational rotational end probably we
we’ll we’ll get back to this in just a
moment I do want to welcome in uh no
you’re good Ryan floro here into the
draft show your newest Dallas Cowboy out
of Southeast Missouri State
Ryan congratulations man where are you
who are you with and how you
feeling man I’m with my family I’m just
feeling so great man this is best
feeling of my life honestly I’ve been
playing football since I was 5 years old
and I’ve been dreaming of this moment
ever since so this I’m feeling great
it’s a special day and and and we’re
really really excited for your
athleticism jumps off the charts when
we’re able to watch you play if for
Cowboy fans that maybe aren’t familiar
how would you describe your
game man super competitive super
athletic um I feel like I could do
anything when I’m out there between the
lines um Dallas Cowboys going to get a
great competitor and a great football
player what’s up Ryan congratulations on
being picked I got a couple of questions
for you one your journey it’s definitely
taking you a few different ways uh early
on in college starting at the D2 level
dealing with the torn ACL then going to
Joo bouncing back and then being able to
make your way as a draft pick out of
Simo why do you think your journey
prepared you for this type of
moment you know God put me through them
obstacles to mow me into the man I am
today I feel like I come overcome
anything and everything I’ve been
through is just you know it was blessing
to have at the time I didn’t understand
why I was going through it but you know
God always has a plan and man I love his
plan it seems like Yak ability is what’s
really starting to stand out the more
I’m starting to watch here is that uh is
that what you take pride in most in your
game um I just take pride in playing
football I’ve been I was a running back
um ever since I was five until I became
14 so I always been natural with the
ball in my
hand uh Ryan one one other thing for you
I mean I’ve been out trying to ask some
like fun questions some of the Cowboys
raap picks just get a little taste of
your personality but growing up was
there a wide receiver that you really
really love that you’ve kind of modeled
your game
after um of course the great Jerry Rice
I I used to watch this um highlight all
the time and I still do to this day uh
just because of his work ethic and um
how he really just
like was dominant but um I I’ll take a
look at a lot of great receivers I like
to compare myself to um Dez Brian
sometimes just because we have the same
frame and like the same
capabilities hey Ryan just talk about
your experience at the Senior Bowl and
the opportunity that you got there we
all love Jim naggie the the director of
the Senior Bowl and the players he
brings down there he’s always great
players just kind of was that that
experience help you kind of get to where
you’re at right
now uh um yeah for sure it was nothing
but God’s plan to get me there I had a
tip on my should that whole time because
you know I had a logo that nobody
recognized on my helmet so I really had
a lot to prove and you know I went out
there and I think I proved myself to the
world keep myself well the Cowboys have
a pretty good receiver room right now
with CD lamb Brandon Cooks what do you
think about CD Lam you a fan of his game
yeah man big fan I’m ready to work with
him can’t can’t wait to get to work with
him man you know see everything he been
um doing in the league just to model my
game after him and just learn from him
because you know he’s I feel like he’s
one of the great well uh the cornerback
who got who’s now your teammate Kaylin
Carson out of Wake Forest he said in his
spare time he likes to get into some rap
battles what do you like to do in your
spare time and are you a fellow
rapper um hey I love it um have rap
battles with them you know I feel like
I’m very creative I I make music I
create photo shop and I like chest and I
I make all my highlight videos so I’m a
creative mind so if you want to rap
battle I love
to Ryan floro an absolute badass man
this has been awesome to get to catch up
with you we can’t wait to get you here
to the star in Frisco and get to know
you a little bit more man
congratulations and welcome to the
Dallas Cowboys yes sir thank you there
he goes Ryan floro a fun guy I seen uh W
Thomas yeah I saw too they’ll find out
like have that ready to go like y’ need
help isra Mamu they’ll be ready for that
don’t worry talk about playing chess
Mari Cooper used to be a big chess
player around here yeah how about that
for Ryan floro we got the secret audio
that’s always a treat here’s Ryan floro
getting the call from the
Cowboys hey Ryan this is uh Jerry Jones
with the Cowboys how you doing I’m doing
just fine and I’m uh proud to tell you
we just drafted you yes sir
but uh
but
congratulations
congratulations and you had a lot of
good got a lot of good things said about
you in day but congratulations your
Dallas
K all right and here’s our coach M he’s
going welcome you as
well Ryan Mike McCarthy how you doing
Mike I’m doing great hey are you with
your family right now
yes sir man I’m super excited okay hey
congrats so excited to have you here
coming to a great place but you know
most importantly it’s it’s a great
receiver room too so you’ll be I’m ready
to work awesome there’s a bunch of
people lined up here want to say say
hello to
you hold on here’s Robert Prince Ryan
how you doing how you doing Robert
Prince here receiver coach hey man we
are excited to have you uh man you are
Dynamic with the ball in your hands and
we’re excited to get that ball in your
hands and uh let you go to work yes sir
all right all right sir than work boots
on and come down and uh we’ll be ready
to go to work yes sir all right hey I’m
going to give you to coach Simer he’s
our offense coordinator okay Ryan
congrats man man thank you man we’re so
excited brother so excited can’t wait to
get you here man and uh just uh bring
that play style you always have and uh
can’t wait to get you here man yes sir
can’t wait to be there all right buddy
congratulations man
sir thank you okay yep yep
byebye there he is Ryan floro getting
the call it’s always cool getting to
hear that I know I’ve said that after
every time we’ve gotten it but it is I
mean it’s a special day it’s a Once in
a-lifetime type of moment uh for these
players Bri what did you get to make
those calls when you were running that
draft with the Eagles no what I did was
I used to hold him on the phone I was
the Chris I was will mlay so I would get
him on the phone got is what I do and I
one time uh when they this is before
they had call
salari making another pitch oh he’s
maybe making another pitch they’re the
War Room real yeah real quick though
yeah I one time before call waiting I
and cell phones I held a player on the
phone for two hours so nobody could get
him so nobody could call him and we end
up drafting the player oh my God so I I
you remember who it was not being held
hostage by phone was a wide receiver
from Notre Dame um what class the we
took him the second round but God dang
it why am I fre going brain dead on here
um I’ll think of it here in a second
though because but uh
200 maybe maybe three four five some
maybe five the Cowboys no no no this is
Green Bay oh well you weren around in
2003 four five no no no no no uh 93 der
Derrik May Derek May yeah Dereck Mays I
can’t remember I forgot about Dereck
Maye but Derek D I was on the phone with
him for two hours trying to hold off
wild and we finally we got him is what
happened so I basically sat from pick
whatever to pick 171 with him that kind
of that kind of length of and just
talking and just bsing with him what
offensive lineman would Solari be in
there talking about
DL I had a team say the other they were
surprised a round ago that jvon Cohen
still hadn’t come off the board yeah
Miami I thought I was seeing things we
mentioned Driscoll I know I did for the
tackles
Pearl Levon saw him at
the those are those are the linemen that
I have left Coen leveston Henderson is
another guy that I have left Dan bugler
mocked uh Matt Lee the center from Miami
to the Dallas in the fifth round and
he’s still on the board I love Matt Lee
Matt Lee’s really really good he’s
competitive as heck all the offensive
lineman on uh at least for NFL Network
draft grades that are still available
Nathan Thomas out of Louisiana
lafayette’s the highest ranked one
um about Garrett Greenfield from South
Dakota State yeah that’s another one
that came in here for that was another
one that came in here for Shrine bu I
mean he’s I I think Greenfield can be a
backup swing tackle I absolutely but I I
thought he went no I don’t think
Greenfield’s got McCormack wi Jeremy
flax out of Kentucky was a formal for
the Cowboys at the NFL combine I think
he’s probably the last one left uh
Andrew Coker out of TCU he was a local
day guy um uh pre-draft VIs it um Anam
Dena and then Josiah eim out of Eastern
Kentucky and Dana’s out of Howard both
of those guys are just super long Tracy
guys uh Dana just doesn’t have a lot of
Mobility to him I think eeram probably
has more and I think there’s a little
bit of guard Flex for
eeram um some of the other picks that
have gone off the board while we kind of
ponder who it could be for the Cowboys
is they’re up at pick
233 um we’ve got javante Jean Baptist
that went to the commanders out a Notre
Dame he’s the edge that went at pick 222
first pick I got to say in in the round
Travis Clayton from England yeah that
was a fun one he’s never played a snap
of football he is a rugby player that
has transitioned and has only been
training for football since the start of
the draft process I didn’t think he’d be
drafted that’s why I never brought want
to fight for people I guess right I
think this is one of those things and I
hate to be this guy they’re giving
Buffalo like okay we’ll give you an
international exemption here you know
yeah potentially draft the guy draft him
take the traits he guy he’s a former rug
player exactly draft the player for us
and we will we’ll give you an
international exemption you can keep him
on the practice squad remember they did
the same thing here with our that that
our guy from Mexico yeah is Al yeah
remember he was on your practice squad
for like four or five years it seemed
like cuz he was on
International yeah this is this is the
League this is the league saying listen
throw us bone here at the start of the
seventh round you know we’ll we’ll give
you the we’ll give you the exemption on
the player if you you know so so want
Trey Taylor the safety out of Air Force
we actually had some questions about
like could we break down Trey Taylor out
of Air Force he ends up going uh to the
Raiders picked 223 in the seventh round
510 209 from Air Force and that’s a guy
that just around the line of scrimmage
he he will Feast did did Donovan
Jennings out of South Florida go I don’t
think so
um he’s a guard that might be okay okay
Donovan Jennings is another name to
consider uh dejon Anthony from Old Miss
the safety then went to the Cincinnati
Bengals 6′ 195 dejon Anthony Donovan
Jennings offensive guard out of South
Florida he’s a six-year veteran wow okay
so that we got a lot of playing
experience there that could be a name to
consider and then Brendan rice just went
Brendan rice charers going to the Char
charers awesome 225 gets to stay over
there on South Beach I I mean I’m really
stunned that he lasted this long what’s
the reason I I I don’t know I mean I
don’t think that he is a guy that’s like
crazy fast you know there’s nothing
about him that you’re like wow he just
jumps out at you but he just finds way
like every time you look up he’s open
son of Jerry Rice obviously he was a
standout kick returner when he started
at Colorado so he’s got added special
teams value but it feels like every game
you watch he’s just catching touchdowns
there with USC he’s got quick feet uh
does a nice job of setting up his routes
he’s strong in the intermediate game
super competitive and he had a play
versus Oregon where he wins on the route
and in the Red Zone drops a touchdown
pass they come right back the next play
they run the exact same play he crushes
the route again this time he catches it
and scores and he lets the corner know
about it I loved it but he’s super
consistent with contested catches that’s
the thing like he didn’t seem super fast
on tape for me but he finds way to
consistently get behind the defense uh I
want
to Jesus I had a question I forgot it’ll
come back dang it my brain looks like
everyone’s looking on a board right here
on the W oh that’s what was gonna ask am
I tripping or last year were we not
having to scramble for players like kind
of what we’re talking about right now at
the top of the third I felt like there
was more top of the seventh the top
just to help it’s been a long day just
to help the the the seventh what because
I feel like last year in the seventh
round I was looking at the fifth round
and being like there were still people
like do do you understand what I’m
saying like I feel like there was more
longevity we we talked about this I
think during the draft process the fact
that the the day three Talent you’d kind
of be scraping the bottom of the barrel
a little bit um but I think there’s
still some really good players that are
available I think I agree I I could say
there’s probably 10 to 15 guys already
that I thought would have gone undrafted
I maybe you feel differently Brian but
uh I mean the the kid that uh Buffalo
just took out of England the rugby
player that’s a great example I mean
everyone’s looking for the next Jordan
milata so it makes sense to to swing on
a guy in this draft specifically but you
might you might see some some real big
gambles here in the seventh just because
there’s not a lot of quote unquote sure
things here in this this draft here in
yeah I I I kind of felt like too when
you know and just looking at my board
the the thing with the international I
think they just wanted to open the
seventh round I think I think the bills
are doing the league the league ask
listen we we’ll help you with the player
you know I didn’t even know that was a
thing yeah no it is it’s a thing it’s a
thing yeah the NFL will ask you to to
take players and stuff like that to kind
of promote uh opportunities that they’ve
got going I’m going to say this I I
still got really good players on my
board you know and I I mentioned gay
Gaye Murphy Jacobs from Penn State you
know King yeah he’s probably not going
to get taken because of the speed Cohen
I mentioned you you know the guard
Livingston uh levingston the guard I
have as well uh you know these backs it
kind of got wiped out for me uh you know
Gabe Hall Gabe Hall hasn’t been selected
right I mean Gabe Hall hasn’t been
selected here so and even uh Tulu
Griffin what you think about him I think
he’s an undrafted guy but yeah he’s a
fascinating return option it wouldn’t
surprise me if someone took a swing on
Adam pafco had a long conversation there
with Steven Jones what do you think that
could be about in a draft conversation
well what the what the what’s what Adam
is in charge of is when they go when
they go post draft MH him Chris Hall
those guys Adams in charge of the cap so
he’s going to make sure that they got
everything lined up because the first
thing they’re going to do is attack is
attack their uh okay picks in for the
Bengals here where I who did I miss here
uh we’ll let Zach we’ll let Zach set all
this stuff for after so Jaden Davis the
corner for Miami ended up going to
Arizona at 226 okay who okay that’s
Arizona they’re they’re behind so
they’re they’re trying to catch up right
now I’ve got this refresh to where we’re
getting we’re getting some some picks
ahead of them so up on the clock right
now is the Browns at pick 227 okay yeah
so but but what was I saying about this
but yeah I think with Adam Adam’s the
guy that’s responsible for post-draft
and so they’re going to they get with
the scouts get with the coaches and they
go recruit they’re going to start with
the guys that are on their draft board
first so if there’s anybody left on that
board that’s who they’re going to attack
first I’m sure Adam’s getting with
Stephen trying to coordinate that like
okay we’re ready to go postd draft you
just let me know when we’re going to
fire this thing up doesn’t doesn’t
Adam’s the guy that the first guy that
came in here right first Scout that came
in here who’s the first scout’s name
that came in here R Ross win Ross win
yeah he looks like the transporter
doesn’t he Ross he looks like
Jason State yeah I mean M if you were to
shave the beard I could see it yeah Ross
looks like he could I seen him we seen
him the other day and I so when he came
in here today R is the man I literally
almost audibly said Jason Ross has been
responsible for a lot of really good
picks around here oh man he seems like
such a professional yeah no no question
this is going to be interesting cuz now
I guess cuz you got to figure out you
got two picks left right 233 and
244 mhm so yeah I guess this is really
these are guys you do not want to fight
for in free agency right you’ve got to
figure out the okay listen who do we
maybe have on our board that we
absolutely feel like maybe will cost us
too much money to go fight forign free
agency and I think you have to keep a
really open mind about they might do it
on numbers they might say listen we
don’t have enough linebackers we don’t
have enough uh edges we don’t have
enough Corners whatever ever these are
the next two picks will be about about
trying to make sure that they get
players that potentially can make the
team but you don’t have to fight for in
free agency so keep that in mind as well
when you’re when you’re when you’re
looking at this okay I’m trying to think
it so I mean yeah offensive is there a
position group that you think is it like
offensive lineman end up being the
toughest to get skill guys usually do
the the agents are going to hold you up
because they’re going to look at who you
drafted and they’re going to look at
your team’s depth chart and they’re
going to say there’s no way in hell my
guy’s going to make your team you know
and so that’s you know you got to be you
got to be kind of like that’s why you
use the scouts and the coaches to
recruit you know no no wait a minute now
we we’re going to you know and then you
get Jerry involved or Mike involved to
to close the deal if you can so yeah
it’s it’s it’s about it’s about these
agents are smart and Savvy they’re like
listen you’ve got 12 wide receivers on
your board uh-uh we’re not coming to you
guys yeah you know not going to make the
team miles Harden cornerback just from
South Dakota stayed 510 it’s a fun one
went to yeah what do you have on Miles
Harden yeah I think he’s got some safety
flexs um he uh he really shined at that
local they did kind of a a pro day up
there in South Dakota where they grouped
a lot of those FCS programs together uh
but miles Harden he was um he was a guy
that I saw at the combine actually that
really stood out to me he’s got that
safety flex but in playing corner he he
excelled in a lot of Zone Concepts I
think he’s going to play in space at the
next level uh I think that’s a really
fun of value here in the seventh round
for Miles Harden he was under the radar
guy that I put in the uh Dallas Cowboys
draft guide for safety position heck
yeah nick samk uh Michigan State Center
6437 going to the Baltimore Ravens feel
like the Ravens have kind of attacked
offensive line here yeah towards the end
of the draft you know speaking of
that Brian you spent time in Green Bay
Mike McCarthy of course coming from
Green Bay right I don’t know that the
Cowboys would have any interest in doing
this but they always take a flyer on a
quarterback every year Michael Pratt is
still sitting there from two lane I to
me yes if if yes absolutely like why not
at this point why not and and May and I
don’t know there might be something I
I’m got proud on my board in the fourth
round I mean he’s my if you know I I
thought that watching Michael Pratt play
and I loved watching Jackson the wide
receiver play and if you look at tane
tane the last two years tan should have
been in another Power another New Year
day bowl game right they lose that game
to SMU right and that cost them the
opportunity to go to a new year Michael
Pratt went head-to-head with Caleb
Williams in a shootout at at at the
cotton ball and got they got the better
of you know this kid’s a player I mean
he you look at legitimately how he he
throws the football his ability to make
plays he’s smart he’s tough there’s a
lot yes yes absolutely pick uh pick uh
what are we’re at right now pick 233 yes
hand the card in would throw a dart
there I mean why not technically you’ve
got both of your quarterbacks that are
out of contract after this year and I
don’t think they’re going to go into you
know three they’ll figure it yeah all
three so I
mean you might want to do you think I
mean I know that their their pick is
already in but do you think that even
though Minnesota has picked up uh is it
McCarthy is that who they gra even
though they picked up mcarthy that they
maybe will grab uh I think that would be
kind of because there’s teams that have
done that they the commanders did it
with Robert Griffin and Patriots just
did it and Patriots Yeah but it’s a
little bit of the space I mean but two
young guy first and seventh round saying
because it’s yeah it’s so it’s seventh
round right you know I’m saying like if
it was the fifth or something I would be
more concerned but just seventh round to
get two quarterbacks try them out see
who’s I mean I know one’s the first
round pick but still it’s San Francisco
there’s people in San Francisco said the
Mr Irrelevant is playing better than
Lance right now yeah I mean San
Francisco threw a dart they got Brock py
now they got a franchise Court you just
never know I mean patri taken Brady in
the sixth round no no I totally to me
and I don’t know there might they might
not like Pratt at all but it at 233 sure
you know this to me it it’s better than
it it would be better than saying oh
we’ll take Bell or Gaye Murphy you’re
you’re throwing a dart here you know at
a guy that maybe maybe you get him and
maybe you get uh Lance you know and then
you move on from Cooper rush you know
who knows but that I would definitely
consider it here and I know everybody’s
thinking oh well it’s a wasted pick it’s
pick 233 guys yeah it you’re taking a
shot at a quarterback that I know on my
board and they don’t probably have him
on the fourth round on their board but
maybe well maybe I mean maybe it’s Sam
Hartman had an notor aame maybe there’s
another quarterback go we got claps all
right so will mlay is about to make the
call marthy looks genuinely happy Happ
it it’s not a fake happy
and I wonder if it’s a quarterback I
mean McCarthy loves quarterbacks and
that’s kind of the Green Bay way of
doing things that he came from it just I
wouldn’t be to me I with a guy like
Michael Pratt that we all thought was
was a dude that if you’re going to take
a flyer on that next tier of
quarterbacks is that is that your Marcus
Marauder right there Bobby belt where is
he on the right side Stucky yeah leaning
in it looks like him yeah standing up
it’s Ross wiy and Klein
kubak where would uh where would uh
Stucky region Stucky Midwest Midwest
would two lane no no that would be
Kansas
yeah they got it so they’re on the phone
all right we’ll see uh oh Michael okay
so we got a couple of pcks flying off
the board MJ devenshire the cornerback
from Pittsburgh goes to the Raiders at
pick 229 and then Michael Jurgens the
center from Wake Forest just went to the
Vikings at pick 230 that will take us to
the Patriots at 231 did anybody want to
touch on those guys or we I have let me
if I can do my housework keep talking
but I got devonar for you if you like
yeah I’d love I’d love to hear what you
have on Devonshire um but and then yes
we were talking about Brendan rice and
how he was hanging on the board the
Chargers did end up taking him for those
that missed that pick uh that was a
little bit earlier in the round so
trying to figure out Cowboys are about
to make a pick uh they’re coming up here
at 233 this is their first of two
seventh rounders here m is Juiced yeah
he looks excited getting someone he
likes okay solar’s hanging over here to
the right side okay maybe a lineman so
we’re we talking about Devonshire real
quick he’s going to be 24 years old when
the season starts he’s from a transfer
from Kentucky good size with good arm
leing for the position he’s played on
both sides of his college career the
transition well from the back pedal to
flipping his hips to run with the
defender he does a good job of
contesting passes if he has an issue I
think it’s his long speed I’ve seen
receivers get by him and have trouble
catching up he’s not afraid to tackle by
step steing up he does a pretty good job
of wrap-up guy gets very grabby at the
line at the top of the route uh shows
some good ball skills had 18 pass
breakup seven career interceptions three
of those interceptions were returned for
touchdowns so he does a good job of
playing with his eyes right place right
time type of a guy physical cover corner
he could help you in special teams as a
return man he has a knack for finding
space there when there is none so lack
of speed though is clear at times that’s
from
Pittsburgh okay so we got an offensive
lineman so he’s got to be a lineman Mike
salari is on the phone right now so some
of the lineman that we’re looking at
that haven’t been taken Driscoll from
Marshall we brought his name up Garett
Greenfield from South Dakota State uh
I’ve got duplain from Michigan State as
a guy that that I liked quite a bit uh
Cohen from Miami still I don’t believe
has been taken I know Bobby you’ve
brought him up anybody that you think
Bobby that we could throw out their name
wise I mean the two highest I’ve gotten
texts about left are Cohen and Nathan
Thomas okay
Nate Thomas A lot of people thought
Nathan Thomas had really high ceiling
yeah I mean Thomas has the measurables
that you’re looking for in the seventh
round that’s a lot of a lot of what this
is 65
332 that’s one of the bigger players
that teams told me they had left right
there who just went Jem
Bell Minnesota man well he went to New
New England man so New England’s got
some fun offensive weapons now for Drake
may you talk about Jaylen pulk who they
took earlier Jem Bell is another one of
these guys I us I think you and I both
watched him last year and then he
decided to go back um and he ends up you
know at Florida State he transferred
from South Carolina and he I mean he’s a
stud I mean they at South Carolina he
was lining up all over they had him at
running back at times yeah he can do
things out the back field obviously like
the run after catch is great he’ll run
through your face he doesn’t care um I
you of course when I’m to refine his uh
his route running a little bit more but
as far as just him being a pure athlete
being bigger stronger faster than
anybody in whatever position you put him
on he could do it I’m jealous all right
Cowboys pick is in they’re announcing it
now on the uh on the NFL Network and it
is Jaden Davis he this isn’t right this
isn’t
right pick is in that that I think
they’ve got the graphic wrong we’re just
waiting on the pick uh Levi Drake
Rodriguez went to from Tex ANM Commerce
went to the Minnesota Vikings at pick
232 right ahead of the Cowboys so
there’s a Texas A&M Commerce defensive
tackle being picked 61 269 going to the
Vikings so still waiting on who it’s
going to be for uh the Cowboys here but
they’re next up as we’re waiting who’s
the next Dallas Cowboys draft pick we
expect it to be an offensive
lineman we’ve thrown out quite a few
names I mean maybe one of these names
ends up sticking yeah the guy well this
is but you didn’t you say that the they
want someone that they don’t want to
have to fight for no you don’t want to
have to fight for this guy that that’s
the whole idea then don’t fight for this
you know this pick in Nathan Thomas from
Louisiana there it is Bobby
65332 uh and you you had heard it I mean
you were on this one Bobby when it came
to other teams around the league we’re
talking about him the the one of the
teams that told me that was their
surprise that was still sitting around
they had him in the fourth round and so
I mean if you’re getting a a fourth
round offensive line there with
apparently some some tackle and guard
flexibility then yeah that’s worthy of a
seventh round flyer yeah I’ve been
putting in some texts to some people I
know down in New Orleans went to a shi
meded High School down there it’s just
shaed high school it’s just outside of
New Orleans it’s more of a a country
type program but Louisiana Lafayette
let’s let’s touch on this program for a
minute before I dive completely into
Nathan Thomas the Cowboys they found a
steal in John Stevens Jr last year out
of Lafayette in the undrafted free agent
pool and Billy Napier was was the head
coach and that program that he built
down there in uh Western Louisiana
allowed him to move on to Florida but so
many NFL talents are starting to come
out of that program and it has just
continued uh under coach Doro this
program is starting to put out some
really big- time guys but Nathan Tomas
specifically 6’5 323 pound uh 332 lbs um
and is a absolute merer in the Run game
so in high school he played in a wing te
program and he he lined up at tight end
which in a wing te program that may as
well be an extension of the right tackle
position and so he has a lot of knacks
in the Run game and you see that
Mobility from a tight end uh at the
tackle position however I do think he
has some guard Flex I think he’s going
to be able to slide inside if he needs
to at the next level but you see those
long arms that quick movement the
mobility that he has those traits that
he picked up at the high school level
and Def blocking for Wing te type uh
plays this is a really fun high traits
High upside pick for the Cowboys in the
seventh round I mean this this is the
type of seventh round pick you would
like to get I i’ say that right here I’m
with you man I mean you see the base
that he works with and he’s a guy that
just does not get overpowered yeah he he
is he is very very strong and powerful
in the upper body but you mentioned the
long arms that’s something as well and
I’m sure I mean he did start at left
tackle the last two years you’ve got 13
games in 2022 12 games uh at left tackle
the most recent season honorable mention
all sunb Bel conference but yeah man you
get this dude in the seventh round and
what was a very deep tackle class you
never know how you can develop into this
guy that’s a fun
pick anything to add
Bob no that’s you got it that’s it yeah
I mean you mentioned the only thing I
have to say is that you mentioned the
bass and um you can tell even like when
he’s kick stepping it’s not it’s not too
like you know what I’m saying his legs
aren’t too spread out like he’s he’s
balanced yeah yeah no I’m I’m interested
and finding out more about the
player yeah I mean I mean the the hands
like we were talking about maybe with
gon a little bit like keeping the hands
connected Nathaniel Watson doesn’t have
an issue with that has some Expos Thomas
excuse me daan Thomas that play that
beam just showed on his film he looked
like he got rolled back so he must have
some flexibility because I would have
broken my ankle on that play yeah this
is exciting I mean this is definitely a
guy that you can bring in and develop
I’m always for attacking and throwing
darts along the offensive line and
especially depth right I mean uh you’ve
got guys like Josh ball Matt wetco they
haven’t been able to stay healthy we’ll
see about awesome Richards I think we
were excited about him last year but
just keep keep throwing options out
there along the offensive line because
there’s just not enough good linemen to
go around no there’s not and and the
thing about it is you mentioned the name
awesome Richards I wish that we would
had more of an opportunity to see Austin
Richards evidently you know he wasn’t
ready to play in those games and that’s
why they went with a Doga and so now you
know you’re you’re throwing in uh you
know Nathan Thomas into this mix and you
know maybe that uh you know the fact you
mentioned maybe some guard flexibility
as well but uh yeah you’re right you
offensive lineman you kind of just keep
throwing it at him and hope things work
out yeah excited to get to talk with
Nathan Thomas here soon yeah NFL
Networks uh Lance sine had a fourth
round grade on wow okay on Nathan Thomas
it’s the traits it’s the length it’s the
mobility that he’s displayed basketball
background athletic uh run block pass
Pro I mean he he has a lot of experience
too this is this is a fun pick that you
can make here in the seven well he’s
lined up on both sides because when they
would go on an unbalanced line there
he’d go kick over to the right side so I
mean this is this is in I mean maybe a
backup swing tackle potentially you
could look at in the future uh with
Nathan Thomas fun pick here for the
Cowboys and we’ll talk with him Nick I I
I’m excited to hear you pick his brain
about that Wing te yeah in high school
like that’s uh what what a freak athlete
there 65 332 out of Louisiana Nathan
Thomas your newest Dallas Cowboy and I
think this was the uh confused is this
the I mean they’re a little bit behind I
think this was the announcement of the
pick here possibly that they’re showing
on NFL Network what is this a Tony Dixon
Jersey
24 I think it’s I think it’s our Larry
Brown we want to cut the audio up is it
Larry probably is Larry Brown and
Country I wouldn’t be standing here
today without DC Prescott so I want to
take this moment to raise mental health
awareness Jesus with the 233 pick in the
20 24 NFL draft America’s team Mexico’s
team world’s team my Dallas Cowboys
select Nathan Thomas tackle Louisana
laer you know what I love most about
that he said Louisiana Lafayette because
they’ve just been trying to like just
kind of come by as just Louisiana by
Louisana do you know about this beef
yeah there’s a lot of beef there oh so
is that why is that why they’re trying
to cut the LA yeah because they just
want to be Louisiana but LSU has the has
the rights to be Louisiana State
University and it’s a whole oral so does
that make you feel some type of way
Brian you’re like no you’re Louisiana La
trying to go by Louis let me tell you if
we were in Lafia I’d buy you guys dinner
right now at
praon there been there a couple times
jump in the car I’m down I would you
know me I’m about Feats of Strength
let’s do it hell of a day yeah maybe
when we go to the Manning Passing
Academy this summer you come I’ve been
twice yeah let’s go this year Brian just
let me know the dates Brian and I can
put in some uh some PTO time do a show
from out there that’d be fun that’d be
fun that’ be exciting to do okay Jonah
Lau uh the defensive tackle from
Oklahoma how did how do I do on that
pronunciation there yeah I don’t know
this kid I can’t I’m be 100% I don’t
either I did not watch him but
65292 defensive tackle out of Oklahoma
going to the Indianapolis Colts after
the Cowboys pick and then Devon Vil the
uh Utah
Wier he’s big 64203 former walk-on uh
big Target long arms he’s uh now going
to be a Denver Bronco I mean at that
size I wonder if he could also possibly
play some tight end and then here we go
Texas Tech this is the traits pick wreck
him miles Cole 66 278 you talk about a
dude who just looks the part of freaking
nature off the edge uh he is now going
to Jacksonville miles Cole out of Texas
Tech yeah absolutely you talk about
athletic ISM he’s got it and whenever I
was talking with the staff over at Texas
Tech head coach Joey Maguire had glowing
things to say about miles Cole as well
as James Blancher their director of
recruiting over there in LC um they love
to uh they love to go after guys that
have basketball background track
background anything of the nature he’s a
shreport native and uh what caught their
eye during the evaluation process was
his basketball background and being able
to translate that to the edge how does
that work footwork explosion being able
to find little cre es in the in the
offensive line to be able to Blitz
through and get to the passer he was
able to do that in his time with the Red
Raiders he was a really productive
player in the Big 12 uh I really like
what miles Cole would bring to is that
the Bengals is that the Bengals no no uh
the Bengals selected Matt Lee afterwards
we we’ll get to we’ll get back to that
we’ve got our guy Nate Thomas the newest
Dallas Cowboy offensive tackle Louisiana
Lafayette Nate congratulations man I’m
sure it’s been a long day waiting but
how you feeling what’s this day been
like for
you uh you know it’s it’s been a lot of
waiting but I mean ultimately you know
I’m just grateful to uh get a get an
opportunity to play football at the
highest level um and you know play for
the Cowboys uh yeah I mean I love Dallas
I love the Cowboys so it’s it’s it’s an
honor hey D congrats on being pick or
did you grow up a Cowboys fan you say
you love the Cowboys no it’s it’s funny
because uh me being from New Orleans you
know we always have our battles you know
between the Saints and Dallas fans and
all of that so um but I mean like you
know I
always uh always used to watch you know
the Saints Cowboys you know football and
they definitely have a uh they they
definitely have a certain type of
football uh certain type of level of
football that that just can’t be matched
and I always seen that ever since I was
younger so it’s definitely you know just
an honor to be um pick and selected to
be a part of that
team hey Nate uh I I went to school at
LSU myself I’ve gotten pretty good at
this Crawfish Boil stuff here in Dallas
so if you just throw a couple of sacks
in the back of your car when you’re
heading this way I’d sure appreciate it
it be happy to boil them for
you I can I can make I can make your
nose run man I I promise you I you know
I can get you into it if you just give
me a couple of sacks I’ll make that nose
run and have a good old time here at the
star what do you
say that sounds good to me it sounds
good to me all right man a couple more
questions for you Nathan first you said
you had a lot of waiting around to do
today and I I know there was some people
that thought of you as a fourth round
potentially even Fifth Third I I saw a
lot of grades for you do you think you
wear a chip on your shoulder being a
seventh round
pick um definitely a chip on my shoulder
but I mean you know at the end of the
day uh you just got to realize that or
or I just have to realize that I’m not
in control you know God in control so
wherever he wants me out is for a reason
so um you know still getting
picked but uh you know I’m on a mission
and uh getting drafted is fun and all is
cool but um I’m definitely on a mission
yeah speaking of that mission I want to
talk some ball with you going to shet
high school and being in that Wing te
offense and blocking as a tight end how
do you think that helped you blocking in
the Run game once you got to Louisiana
Lafayette how do you think that’s going
to translate to the NFL level having
that Wing te experience
yeah um I think you know you just stick
to the the fundamentals you know um
blocking as a tight end or you know as a
lineman like it’s the same footwork uh
same hand placement same you know all of
that so uh once you once you have you
know the fundamentals down you just
constantly work on them and you master
them so and and that’s the difference
between you know college level and pro
level is that um that Mastery of the
fundamentals you know they’ll take you a
long way so um for me it was just
working on those F fundamentals and I
was you know going to continuously work
on them and become a master of my craft
are you tight with John Stevens
Jr uh yes sir yeah good deal have you
have you got a message from him or
anything yet or you haven’t even had a
chance to check huh I don’t think he had
a chance to check yet I got you man last
question for me man how do you feel like
pass Pro you were really able to develop
in that area going to uh uh Louisiana
obviously not having a ton of pass Pro
experience in high
school yeah um yeah you just you just
have to take what you learn uh and take
what you do and practice and use the
tools that the coaches gave you and you
just have to apply to the field and um I
think that’s something that I do very
well it’s just I take the coaching and I
just apply it on the field and just run
with it so yeah Nate I mean you
obviously played on the left side at
Louisiana lafaette but I wonder you know
what do you envision when it comes to
position Flex for for you do you think
you could kick inside play some guard or
do you kind of just like maybe
projecting as a swing
tackle um I think personally for me I
think I can play uh guard and Tackle so
I think um you know it would just be
with the whatever the team needs you
know
um I I just I feel like I can play both
guard and tackle and I’m just there to
help the team win hey Nathan your uh
your base is strong it’s balanced bed uh
I’d like to ask a lot of the offensive
linemen what they do to you know
maintain that balance but to really you
know continue to gain more flexibility
um because that that’s going to keep you
healthy especially in your hips uh are
there any things that you do that are
like significant to to stay loose and to
make sure that your flexibility is up to
par um that was one thing that I uh I
guess I just had naturally that I um
that I didn’t know was something that
could be worked on until I went to the
sports academy and was working with some
of the the Mt people over there and um
just making sure that uh you just do
some
stretches um and and definitely getting
some some manual therapy done uh to work
those or loosen those muscles and stuff
uh and that that can definitely help
like range of motion uh and other things
of that sort Nate congratulations thanks
for giving us some time man welcome to
the Dallas Cowboys it’s a special day go
enjoy it with your friends and
family yes sir thank you there he goes
Nathan Thomas your newest Dallas Cowboy
Louisiana lafay yet I I mean really
really impressive individual I mean
getting to talk with him and he seems
like he’s willing to do whatever the
team needs of them yeah if he delivers
with those crawfish I’ll be even more
happy we’ll try and uh I know he’ll have
a sponsor and Brian brus there there’s
no question If he if he comes out here
and just doesn’t give up any sacks or
anything like that as a player I’ll cook
for crawfish for him all day long what
Brian I I’m from east Texas they
consider us honorary louisianians we’re
going to have to do that some you got
it Nathan Thomas allowing just 13
quarterback pressures on 410 pass
blocking snaps last season so he was
steady for that Louisiana Lafayette
offensive line and again another guy
that’s really good in the Run game you
think this team wanted to emphasize we
want to get offensive lineman that can
get some movement and get some push we
want to knock people off the ball be a
little bit more angry mean get something
going in the Run game they’re doing that
with their three offensive linemen that
they have taken so far today uh going
through some of the other picture Bobby
you got something no no no no I was just
I was I want you being left out no I was
just checking on something with neck
okay we got the Warren up right now
about three picks out having a
conversation we got another pick that’s
coming up close some of the other picks
that went off the board miles Co did go
to Jacksonville uh Matt Lee the center
out of Miami going to the Bengals Matt
Le little I like Matt Le yeah he spent
Four Seasons at UCF before he
transferred to Miami this past season
threee starter at UCF earned High grades
both run and pass I this guy’s gritty
and tough I mean he keeps moving his
feet drives people off the ball in the
running game really good on double team
blocks I think he’s consistent his
technique and pass sets maintains ground
very well at the point of attack plays
very Square I thought he held his own
really well against braen Fisk in that
matchup against Florida State and I
can’t say many linemen did when you
watch FIS play in college doesn’t have a
ton of bends he does play with two big
old braces on both legs so I don’t
know it is it’s weird but this guy like
to me just a football player and I think
that’s kind of the highest compliment
you can give to an offensive lineman
yeah definitely got some nasty to his
game and you mentioned that his feet
keep moving and what I wrote down he
just keeps fing so to your point you
know like the the knees aren’t super
duper bendy but he just keeps you know
moving and driving forward and I I like
the I like the awareness from him and
his passes as well cuz you know FSU they
throw a lot of different looks at you um
across that defensive line to get
Brandon Fisk uh Brandon Fisk free and he
was able to pick up on some of that
stuff communicated in that game um yeah
that’s a good kid that the guy was just
drafted he sounds intelligent Nathan
but he he you can hear that he’s he he
definitely felt like he should be should
have been a little a little bit ahead
like that’s crazy that I’m I missed him
myself but I’m just I can’t believe that
like fourth fifth yeah to seventh yeah
it’s happening yeah but that’s why they
want to go ahead and pay like they you
said like you said they nobody want F
want to fight for that fight for that I
don’t blame you oh there goes Taj
Washington little bit we saw no are you
kidding me another another wide receiver
going to the dolphin Solomon bird it’s
they’re going to be able to field
separate team ofers I mean it’s just all
skill players uh the Houston Texans
taking Solomon at of USC at pick 238
Josiah ezim the offensive tackle from
Eastern Kentucky goes to the Saints
followed by Michael Barrett the
linebacker from Michigan going to the
Panthers and then Taj Washington the
wide receiver from USC going to the
Dolphins anybody want to hit on any of
those picks Tosh Washington the Dolphins
is unfair that’s all I got to say it’s
just
pointless I got a report on taj
Washington give interested we got to
give the guys credit for being get
drafted I tell you what while you get
the Taj Washington report let’s go ahead
and hear the secret audio from Nathan
Thomas n what’s up this Jerry Jones with
the Cowboys oh what’s up how you doing I
just I just wanted to check and see if
uh you knew you uh get a star on your
helmet when you become a
cowboy yeah I’m I’m might have to earn
that one uhuh well let me just tell you
this well I am proud to tell you that
we’re picking you and and uh want you to
come in here here and continue what you
showed in school and uh continue with
all the good stuff you do you get up
here and do the same stuff you’ve been
doing and uh you can take care everybody
you love or going to love this pro
football so seriously seriously I’m
proud for you and proud to be calling
you a Dallas Cowboy we’re going to draft
you we’re turning you in right now oh
wow thank you yes sir and here’s the
coach okay Coach mccarth yes sir da
congratulations thank you thank you hey
are you back home in New Orleans with
your family uh yes sir oh that’s awesome
well hey obviously we had a great
conversation we all enjoy your time here
and uh welcome back all right you’re in
a great spot as you know and uh a lot of
people fired up to get you here I tell
you that’s it’s going to be an awesome
room to have you and the other young
guys join so uh enjoy this time with
your family and we will see you in two
weeks okay yes sir thank you all right
Nate I’m gonna pass the phone on to you
here’s coach salari all right Nate
congratulations thank you that’s awesome
we are excited about you being here with
the Cowboys and you have a great future
with us there’s no doubt about that I’m
excited as well yeah that’s exciting
you’re in a great place great yes sir it
is all right well again congratulations
here’s coach Hammer offense coordinator
hang on Big Nate what’s up buddy what’s
up how you doing oh man tell you what
are you so
excited I’m very excited man we are so
excited to have you here buddy and uh sh
we were just just counting the picks
hoping it worked out man but uh can’t
wait to get you here brother so excited
can’t wait to be there all right hold on
Coach Chin Young wants to talk to you
real quick congratulations man welcome
to the Cowboys thank you big Nate what’s
going on man it’s coach Shin Young hey
excited about you hey let’s get ready to
go how you doing doing great man yes sir
yes sir I know you’re excited I’m good
enjoy this process enjoy this time with
your family man we’re so excited about
you let’s get let’s get rolling yes sir
all right now you have a good one all
right well that’s a lot of hard work
paid off for you but boy we’re anxious
to get you here it’s jery again I can’t
wait to be there okay okay we’re excited
hope everybody down there is excited see
you real soon byebye all right that’s
awesome Cowboys are on the uh we’ll be
making a call to making another pick
here we’ll be keeping an eye on that
Warren but go ahead and give us that Taj
Washington update Brian yeah real go
ahead Aisha was he a 30 visit no that’s
that’s what I wondered well because they
kept saying they kept saying to get you
back here yes correct a 30 visit guy he
was a 30 visit guy that was something I
picked up on late really yeah yeah
missed out on that one interesting yeah
I it was just the way they kept pumping
Fists in the War Room okay they’re
excited in the worm I think I I thought
I saw a tweet from some of the uh you
know the beat writers because they’re
also doing a conference call with him
and he said he hadn’t had much contact
with the Cowboys but that’s awesome just
want to confirm sorry Washington is a
transfer from Memphis and he’s a Savvy
route Runner outstanding quickness burst
majority of his work comes from the slot
he’s really nice feel of how to explode
off the line and quickly get into his
routes uh I believe that this kid he’s
got I mean when he’s got a lot of he
gets a lot of space when playing in that
slot and so I’m not so much sure how
he’s going to you know how that’s going
to translate to the NFL for him but man
I’ll tell you what I think they’re going
to play him differently because this kid
is extremely quick he does a lot of
things quarterback moves around the
pocket and he does a great job of
presenting himself as a t Target solid
Dependable hands for a shorter guy he’s
got a nice catch radius and he’s very
good at tracking the ball and adjusting
the passes all right they’re passing the
phone around right now we had James
Williams the safety from Miami just go
to the Tennessee Titans at pick 242 like
browns are taking a defensive tackle uh
off the board Jawan Briggs the defensive
tackle from
Cincinnati Dallas’s pick 62 297 Cowboys
pick is
in fourth pick in the 2024 NFL draft the
Dallas Cowboys select Justin Rogers
defensive tackle
Auburn there you go you got a big
defensive tackle there in Justin roggers
who is now a Dallas Cowboy and uh Justin
Rogers of course out of Auburn uh you
see went to high school there in Detroit
right where this draft is but big 330
pounds there from Justin Rogers yeah
this is a this is a fun one this is
probably the last one Tech option that
you had and you probably didn’t want to
toy around with him trying to win a
bidding war for him in the the undrafted
free agent pool because of his size at
623 22 but started his career at
Kentucky and then eventually made his
way over to Auburn uh was fairly
productive in the Run game back in 2022
in at Kentucky this last season trying
to find his way at Auburn and then ended
up entering the draft but uh he he is uh
he’s got six siblings all boys grew up
in Detroit right where the draft is uh
so he’s been able to uh stay home and
and see the draft there but uh
nevertheless I think this is probably
the biggest body other than Evan
Anderson that you would find this guy
just has a little bit more knacks and a
little bit more power five experience
you probably Bank on this a little bit
more and still a young player he’s he’s
22 and will be 22 by the time the season
starts so uh this probably just a guy
you wanted to get and not risk uh not
getting in the undrafted pool well
there’s some depth I mean to add to a
one te now you’ve got somebody else on
the roster that can bring uh you know
that that size good with his hands the
Striking ability there I mean Beamer’s
rolling some of that b-roll in that
matchup he’s going toe-to-toe with van
pran he went a little bit earlier in
that game against Georgia he does do a
good job making plays away from the line
of scrimmage for his size but you know
the lateral quickness is there for for a
guy that’s 62 320 Justin Rogers uh I
mean at this point the draft not bad and
as we say that I want to get your
thoughts here but Michael Pratt going to
the Green Bay Packers that’s a packer
way pick right there yeah didn’t you
just call that yeah you just call that
that’s what that’s what they used to do
you know that’s the the Packer way back
in 1992 you just take quarterbacks in
late in the draft and you know hopefully
you hit on one and here they go anybody
else have anything to add on our new
Dallas this guy makes things difficult
for you know when you watch him play in
the a gap those guys that the guards and
the centers that try and block him he he
makes it a problem in for those guys
he’s a hard guy to move out of the way a
little bit of a probably the shorter arm
type of a guy but man he holds up very
very well at the point of attack so the
big conversation and talking point now
will be that the Cowboys who have now
completed all of their picks in the
draft and they’ll head towards undrafted
free agent which they do an excellent
job at they’re one of the better teams
about to go up but running back you
still didn’t draft a running back you’ve
got Blake Watson you’ve got Frank Gore
Jr you’ve got Cody shrer there’s some
names out there that I’m sure they’re
going to look to bring in Johnson from
Johnson from Washington absolutely is
another one uh they get a defensive
tackle late and Justin Rogers who can
come in and compete at some depth behind
Mazzy Smith and Carl Davis but now I
think they’ll probably be hunting some
of these running backs that they like to
to bring in yeah uh Jayden Sheran out of
Monmouth I think that’s probably the one
um that I I would like to see um end up
end up uh assigning with the Cowboys and
I think that’s probably the guy that
most teams who are needing a running
back right now would probably go after
uh and I would have to assume that’s one
of the first phone calls and if you’re
looking from an agent perspective from
Jaden sheron’s agent then you would look
at the Cowboys see the running back room
see they didn’t draft anybody and just
roll with that in 2022 uh jayen Shan
rushed for 1,722
yards in 2023 he rushed for
1,478 yards 23 total touchdowns in each
of those two seasons in each of those
two seasons he’s averaging over 140
yards per game uh nearly eight yards per
carry this is a guy that has just been
super productive he’s 5’9 195 but he’s
still able to find some uh um pass
protecting skills uh he’s more of the
big play guy he’s going to be your your
guy that you can rely on in the uh in
the Run game to pick up yards not huge
in the receiving game only 20 receptions
last season after only five in the
previous two seasons but I think in the
Run game he’s a guy that can reliably
pick up pick you up some yards he’s a
bowling ball between the tackles that’s
the guy I’d go after all right uh he is
repped by Drew rosenhouse who gets
everything he can in the free agent pool
there you go dang well Dallas will pay
yeah the one thing Dallas will prove is
they might not play in springtime free
agency with the you know with with the
pros but they will play I mean well I
say with Pros with the you know the the
the guys but these udfs you know FAS
they they will they will go after those
guys they they don’t mind every year
it’s like well they gave that guy
100,000 oh they gave this guy 200,000
you know they they they don’t mess
around with that lipy had the most
guaranteed money of all udfas last year
and TJ bass was third of all and the NFL
that’s that’s AC cross theist I think
the year before was mares Bell so I
think they they’ve kind of held that for
the last couple of
seasons did you have a question you
wanted to throw um yeah I I did want to
ask uh in regard to um N na Nathan
Thomas right yeah um I wanted to ask so
you guys so you guys looking at him as a
as a as a guard do you think that they
I’m just saying there’s potential there
I I don’t think it’s necessarily
something you just uh U you’d hammer on
immediately but I like see the tackle
well I’m tracking that I was wondering
I’m asking like where the other
projections were for him are they were
they projecting him as a guard or just a
tackle I’m just saying there’s probably
guard Flex okay cuz I mean I just think
there’s more of an at this point there’s
more of a need for tackle depth than
guard depth as of right now to me so
that’s why I was just wondering why I
like I said I I wasn’t familiar about
the players so I’m just trying to get a
gaug on like what y’all felt about him
okay that’s all yeah these are some
names that I think could be also be
interesting that are just still
available right now um not necessarily
in the undrafted free agent pool because
I still believe we have what 20 picks
left um Gabriel Murphy still on the
board uh Fabian love it I know you like
him Aisha out of Florida State defensive
tackle uh Dwight mlo big long press
Corner out of Arkansas still on the
board Cornelius Johnson big body wide
receiver out of Michigan that I had a
six round grade on um Curtis Jacobs out
of Penn State linebacker uh Phil Darius
Payne is another defensive tackle out of
Virginia Tech that is still on the board
uh Willie Drew Corner out of Virginia
state he trained here in Dallas during
the uh um pre-draft process uh guys
really liked him at the combine from
what I had heard um that more so
trainers not not Scouts that I had heard
necessarily um Evan Anderson as I
mentioned that big 350 PB frame I mean
that’s that’s something you uh you’ll
love to see um Eric Watts that’s a fun
Edge out of the University of
Connecticut um and then immani Bailey
TCU running back he was a guy that had a
pre-draft visit here all right the uh
now newest Dallas Cowboy Justin Rogers
is joining us here in the draft show
Justin how are you sir I know uh this is
probably been a heck of a day for you
man but a day you’ll never forget
congratulations and welcome to the
Dallas Cowboys thank you thank you thank
you man we’re uh we’re excited to have
you I mean certainly this this is a need
the Cowboys uh needed to fill W with
with what you bring to the table H how
would you describe your play Style and
what you’re bringing now to the Dallas
Cowboys um a hard worker um a God can
depend on you know just H have fun make
habit out there
I think obviously playing in the SEC uh
you’re battle tested I know we got an
SEC guy uh on our studio set right now
who played in the SEC as well and Brian
brus but what what were some of the
things you think helped grow as a player
in that conference that you can
translate now to the
NFL um just really no no taking on on
wisdom from the older guys and just
older veterans around me I think you
know that kind of help me to be where
I’m at right now you play with some
violent hands man I mean it’s you’re
you’re really really difficult to move
off the ball is that something that
you’ve worked on to try and get that
hand fighting or is that something
naturally you’ve just always been gifted
with um I just been naturally gifted
with
it yeah quick question Justin
congratulations on being picked uh did
you grow up a fan of any team and and
growing up in the SEC was it always your
dream to play in the SEC as well uh it
was definitely U my dream always was to
play in the SEC and this um I probably
say this growing up my favorite team was
uh the Lions yeah I got you growing up
in Detroit there right yes sir how’s the
draft been up there I know there’s been
like 270,000 people right did you make
your way up there at any point um yeah
know it was kind of crazy I was about to
say yeah you like letting let cars park
in your yard or anything like that make
a little side money on this thing no no
no not that did you have a lot of
conversations at all with the Cowboys
leading up to this
um not not for real it was here and
there but like I was talking to some of
the scouts when I was at the compound so
this was kind of unexpected when you got
the call from from Jerry were you kind
of
stunned yes sir that must have been a
little bit crazy when you hear on the
other side of the phone like hey this is
Jerry Jones you’re a Dallas
Cowboy yeah definitely was kind of crazy
all right Justin from one big guy to
another I’m not quite as as big and
athletically gifted as you are but I
always love eating asking like an eating
claim to fame and I do love eating but
like what’s the most you’ve ever put
down of a certain type of food in one
sitting um I one sitting oh I probably I
don’t I don’t even know probably like
some Habachi food it’s kind of
good type of guy yes that’s Chicago in
you a lot of good Habachi places up
there you can’t go wrong uh with some
Habachi man we’re excited uh to have you
here and and this is going to be an
awesome awesome experience for you
Justin what do you think about to play
on the defense with Micah Parsons
Demarcus Lawrence and some of these
other outstanding Cowboys Defenders hey
I I can’t wait can’t wait um to get
there and show my show my skills all
right buddy take care enjoy the day hang
out with the friends and fam this is
awesome and
congratulations thank you there he goes
Justin Rogers your new defensive tackle
out of Auburn uh joining us here on the
draft show as the Cowboys have made
their final pick we’ve had a couple of
other picks fly off the board Michael
Prout went to Green Bay from two lane
Devin Culp the tight end from Washington
going to the Bucks Marcus Harris the
defensive tackle from Auburn who played
with Justin Rogers uh going to the
Houston Texans CJ Hansen Holy Cross I
got excited offensive guard going to the
Chiefs and then larius Henderson another
offensive tackle from Michigan going to
the Houston Texans just a few more picks
left we’ve got seven remaining Baltimore
Ravens pick is is in and then we’ll put
a bow on the 2024 NFL draft yeah this
press conference is coming up quick guys
go for it buddy thanks for all your hard
work brother I want to say thank you to
you guys for allowing me on in this
first year it’s been a blast I hope to
bring even more next year man this has
been awesome this is my favorite part of
the Year being able to dive into the
draft thanks to each of y’all I
appreciate it you did H job brother
thank you man also thank you to
everybody that’s listening and
supporting like this has been awesome
this weekend and throughout the year
getting texts tweets support all of that
it’s been super awesome we do it for you
guys so we really appreciate it thank
you we appreciate you Nick yes there he
goes That’s our guy Nick Harris of
course dallascowboys.com and a member of
the draft show what a maiden voyage it
was yeah
yes Nick Harris now he gets to buy
dinner for everybody when we go at the
end of we’ll see you at Habachi in about
an hour Nick Cowboys NFL draft Hall we
look back on it Tyler gon Marshon nean
The Edge from West Virginia Cooper B
Guard from Kansas State marish lual the
linebacker from Notre Dame kin Carson
cornerback from Wake Forest Ryan floro
the wide receiver from Southeast
Missouri State Nathan Thomas offensive
tackle who could also play Guard from
Louisiana Lafayette and then Justin
roggers big defensive tackle from Auburn
who was added in the seventh round pick
244 really I I think they did a great
job of addressing a lot of different
needs and they bring in three offensive
linemen I know the big talking point
after this is going to be the cowboy
boys didn’t come away with a running
back yeah the one thing that they did do
and now they will turn their focus and
try and attack the undrafted rookie
class which they do a great job of we’ll
see what happens with Ezekiel Elliott
you do still have on the roster Rico dle
Royce Freeman who they sign Duce vaugh
Malik Davis is an option but three
offensive linemen who I think the
strength for all three is their nasty
aggressive nature in the Run game I know
we went back and forth about this
earlier Aisha but I think we’ve seen in
the NFL if you can block and you can win
up front along the offensive line you
can find production at the running back
position in a lot of different areas is
it going to be oh my gosh we’ve got a
pro bowl All Pro no but you just need to
be able to have a plethora of guys that
can Tote The Rock and I think they did a
good job even though they didn’t get a
runner and they’ll still be in search of
that at least the offensive line I think
we feel much better about after this
weekend oh yeah I’m very
I’m that’s what I’m more so looking at
is the this season the obviously you’ve
gone out and drafted the the guys that
you want attitude wise and stuff like
that to set the tone but I’m I’m really
curious to see how Mike salari you know
decides to do some of the Run game and
how he some of these designs look and
some of the things he he chooses to do
how he’s able to get some of these guys
involved because to your point if you
are going to go that route that you’re
saying with the RICO dles and you know
um all these other G genten like if you
are going to go that route then you have
to find packages and find ways to get
you know each of them involved and let
them do some of the things they do best
so I’m excited to see what this run game
looks like a year CU I think we kind of
forget that last year was the first year
of this new install of a whole new
offense maybe we get a little bit more
refining and uh creativity in the Run
game this year with it having to be with
it having to be kind of vast with
multiple people and the way you were
describing Zach you know the thing that
I will take away from this draft as it’s
winding down is that when they made the
trade down from 24 right and then it was
came in my mind who are they going to
get at
73 that’s what m immediately my focus
went to and the fact that you in my on
my board personally you end up with a
second round grade at
73 to me that’s when the trade is
totally worth it and makes sense when
all of a sudden you get a guy that you
know with with BB he you know I thought
he was the best guard on the board now
depending on what people think about the
tackles that can play guard and stuff
like that best guard but for him yeah
for him to be there at 73 and you to
pick him that made that trade for me
work so much and I know we I know we all
love Barton and all the center no but
but I would sacrifice Barton for gon and
BB that’s how I look at that right there
now the thing that drove me nuts and I I
don’t I mean maybe the mechanics of it
maybe they weren’t ready selfish me was
looking at Lloyd the running back from
USC and then you took the linebacker
right from Notre game so and then he
goes the pick behind you and now you’re
going damn you know okay that’s one but
yeah they the Notre Dame kid is a hell
of a football player he really really is
I just I just wish they could have maybe
maybe that’s the time where you maybe
would have grabbed that grabbed that
Runner right maybe that’s where maybe
that’s where the draft was going to
allow you to grab the runner yeah that’s
where you had Jaylen right once once it
happened yeah right or Lloyd or Davis
whoever that’s you do once that went
past they got wiped you were they didn’t
have an opportunity to do it today you
were done you were done you guys didn’t
think that listening to Scott McCurley
talk about like it sounds like he like G
like
guaranteed uh Maurice that they were GNA
come get him he did you hear what he
said yeah no you’re right and see that’s
I’m saying I I just said the selfish me
but I I’m in looking how maybe the
running back board fell today with all
those guys going it kind of like well
maybe we’ll be able to grab a guy in the
fif that that was that was yeah that was
it just there was just too much distance
between where you picked at 87 and then
where you had to pick again at 174 right
yeah the there was just too much the
only opportunity was 87 otherwise they
got wiped by the time 174 came around
gendo hurt yeah I think gendo hurt them
I think they I think they thought gendo
could make it to the fifth round and
when he didn’t I think that that kind of
threw them off I also think legitimately
it also shows they really loved Jonathan
Brooks and when they lost Jonathan
Brooks they they kind of shuffled
running back down the board a little bit
as something that they were going to
prioritize and they had guys that they
liked but they they only liked them in
their position they clearly in this
entire draft wanted to go with where’s
the blinking light this is a blinking
light draft probably because they feel
like they could stand depth everywhere
and so because they can stand use depth
everywhere they say there’s really not a
bad pick we can make as long as the
value is really high and so I think that
you know when they picked Carson in the
fifth I think that was probably massive
value on their board when they picked
neand in the second I think that was
probably massive value on their board
Thomas I think they probably had graded
pretty high and so I I think that a lot
of this for them was just
let me identify where is the blinking
light pick it and it’ll probably be a
good pick because we need everything
right now MH yeah and also to like how
if you could describe how different this
draft feels like the process felt than
last year when you mean the when you
break it down like that Bobby and you
say that you know you feel like they
just went they feel like every pick they
feel like they got good value
for was that kind of not maybe how they
felt last year did you feel like maybe
they were no I they thought they thought
Mazy was they had Mazy graded higher
than they picked him they they had
schoon maker I think higher gr graded
higher than they picked him I know they
were excited about overshown um and so
no I think they were those were guys
they really liked it just it it didn’t
work out for the top two and then the
third one got hurt but I mean they they
McCurley you could hear in mccurley’s
voice when we were talking to him ear
day that still bugs them that bugs that
bugged a lot of people in this building
when they lost overon yeah when they
lose overshown that that really changed
a lot for them what they wanted to do
defensively just the flow of the draft
felt very different like I I I don’t
know I just felt like last year we I
felt a little bit more anxious about
what they were doing it was a deeper
draft there was more Talent that’s fair
it was uh there were just more players
who were like okay we’ we’d be
interested in in this player I mean I
think even when at an undrafted free
agency having guys like Frank Gore Jr
and Blake Watson out of Memphis and some
of these running backs that are still
out there are good players that that I
thought would have been drafted I mean
we still do have a couple of picks here
left in the draft uh I just lost my last
wide receiver was it Cornelius Johnson
Cornelius Johnson every one of my wide
receivers on my stack got drafted wow
yeah there you go see my the whole goal
for me when you’re setting these boards
is to try and make sure that it’s you
just you want no names left you know and
every year it gets a little like one
year it’s eight the next year it’s six
you just want the thing to where there’s
maybe one or two guys left and you’re
going to you’re going to have some guys
sitting there because of medical
situations and stuff like that but it
makes you think the next time you build
your board like okay I thought about
this player last year this way why why
am i g to do this again you know uh so
it’s it’s a difficult thing we all kind
of deal with it but man I tell you
there’s nothing better I love doing this
man I I love building boards and
watching players and and doing what
we’re doing right now the Rams are
having a great time Rams are rams are
having a fun draft man they had a lot of
picks most first time they finally had a
first round pick for a while and there’s
the Chargers there with a nice haul as
well all right uh we got the secret
audio from Justin Rogers your new
defensive tackle out of Auburn the
newest Dallas Cowboy here here’s the
call from Justin Justin put that star on
your helmet we just drafted you Dallas
Cowboys yes sir yes sir thank you well
we are excited about having you here and
yes sir think we’ve got your bed made
seriously we think uh got a real
opportunity here and uh you’re a good
fit for us and boy I’ll tell you one
thing uh uh it’s a great opportunity for
you to really make a big difference in
your life because uh uh if you can do it
which we think you can uh then you got
you a home for a long time to come yes
sir listen uh congratulations really and
thank you we’re uh glad to be making
this pick yes yes sir coach McCarthy
want to say something to you well I got
you okay hey Justin how you doing
congratulations how you doing coach
thank you where are you you’re you home
where yeah um my mom my brothers and my
girlfriend awesome awesome I great mom
we can’t wait to get you here we’ll get
you up here in two weeks and get started
man but welcome to a great place you’re
going to be a great us yeah to have you
I got a bunch of guys I want to say
hello to you here okay here’s the
coordinator Mike
okay hey Justin hey how you doing good
congratulations thank
you I hear hear some yelling going on in
there yeah yeah everybody excited yes
sir good deal all right we’ll see you
see you in about two weeks and get you
up here and get you going all right
where we going baby yes sir all right
where we going here’s our D line Cod
Jeff Jeff scan is gonna talk to okay Hey
Big Man
congratulations hey coach thank you
thank
you got
dogs yeah
dog to get you up there in two weeks get
ready to go okay buddy yes sir all right
enjoy the rest of the day
congratulations yes sir thank
you there is Justin Rogers fun call
there lot love the dogs in the
background there we got some picks to
roll off kalayn King did get taken from
cor for the cornerback from Penn State
going to the Packers there at 255 how
about Michael Pratt and Kalin King in
the seventh round for the Green Bay
Packers there some of the other picks uh
seni Kane the safety from Purdue going
to the Ravens Tatum bethon the
linebacker from Florida State goes to
the 49ers at pick 251 Jaylen harrold The
Edge from Michigan going to the Titans
at 252 followed by his Michigan teammate
Cornelius Johnson the wide receiver
going to the Chargers at 253 KT leveston
the guard from K State who played
opposite of Cooper BBE uh going to the
Rams there at 254 and then as I
mentioned kin King the corner from Penn
State give him his du please please do
yeah GRE yeah you have to admire his
willingness to come and play uh make a
play on the ball he sees it quick then
he’s on the attack there are times where
he’ll wrap up and others he’ll launch
his body into the ball car I think he’s
a physical player both in the run and
the pass game he could be a little
handsy when carrying the routes down the
field he gets away with grabbing pulling
hooking all those things he does a
really good job of playing the ball down
the field he had a few interceptions
career but he’s also had his share of
Misses he does a really good job of
tracking and anticipating the Flight of
the ball and putting himself in position
in order to make the play speed is good
enough to allow him to carry or drive on
the ball uh he can close quickly he has
a feel for how to read the route see the
quarterback and make the plays footwork
agility allow for smooth Transitions and
coverage he’s got some quick twitch to
his game plays uh with a high IQ
football IQ but does have some uh and
but doesn’t have ideal length you want
in a corner but makes up for it with his
style of play competes hard throughout
the contest he’s not super big either
but he’ll that there’s effort there in
the Run game which is something that
you’re looking for but yeah no I think
his spatial awareness is good as well uh
so kayin King who ends up not not going
undrafted uh ends up making it there to
the Packers the Broncos on the clock
right now their pick is in and then we
will get to Mr Irrelevant pick 257 to
the New York Jets uh which is coming up
here in just a second overall as we kind
of put a bow on these things I think
satisfied with what the Cowboys did I am
very surprised they didn’t draft a
running back but again as we talked
about I think they lost that opportunity
in the third I think so too that’s
that’s just where I if I had to pinpoint
a spot and then you mention about the
Louisville kid uh going off the board in
the fifth it’s just the run right there
though I mean you you thought oh no the
these guys it’s deep it they’ll be there
and know you felt it too I felt like you
felt it like I I started feeling a
little bit more anxious when I when I
saw that run that was happening I was
like yeah cuz the talent it’s it’s it’s
just it changes so much from size as
well at that point as well so I was
nervous as well well we’re trying to
hopefully get these last two picks in I
know the Cowboys pressure could be
starting at any moment when it does why
you everybody yeah we will throw it to
the pressure uh Nick garguilo the uh
center from South Carolina goes to the
Broncos so just one pick remaining but
yeah big thank you to of course Chris
beam uh and then of course Roxy Who who
hel held us ja Jazzy in the back
everybody who has a part of this working
behind the scenes Douglas barcloud does
an excellent job Scott Purcell Derek
Eagleton of course Nick Harris who is
with Kyle yans who’s been with us for
the majority of the time Aisha Bobby of
course Brian brus all your hard work and
everybody who who Tunes in with us over
the course of these three days and shows
a bunch of love and support even maybe
not support uh via social media wherever
it might be it’s a blast I mean it’s
It’s a Grind but we love doing it we’re
passionate about it and uh we can’t
thank you enough for being a part of
this journey with us over the course of
these three days it’s uh well since
January actually if you look at the
draft show and then when we start we’ll
put a bow on this thing next week and
have a chance to sit back and we’ll know
who they signed as some undrafted free
agents which they’re very good at but
yeah thank to everybody this is not an
easy thing to do I mean we’ve all got
other full-time jobs that we’re having
to do and and so to evaluate the players
and and have the ability to come in here
and educate people we always talk about
that how important it is I love this
time of year I love the draft I love the
platform we’re on
and I love everybody out there that just
consumes us like we do and trust us you
know to give them an evaluation on the
player sometimes we’re right sometimes
we’re wrong but uh just the fact that
everybody’s along with the journey I
think is a is a wonderful thing yeah it
is I just I definitely want to say thank
you to everyone for um being with me
through my uh sophomore year sophomore
season of this uh it felt very different
um than it did last year but I
appreciate everyone’s support all the
messages the DM
everyone reaching out to me ask me
questions holding me accountable
sometimes I appreciate it and then all
the guys that are on the show all y’all
travel a good minute to get here and
stuff you had a baby I mean it was just
it’s there was a lot of s there’s a lot
of sacrifice that goes into doing this
as well so I just want to say thank you
to you guys and yeah it’s been cool it’s
been cool we’re not confused after this
draft I don’t feel confused do you feel
confused you feel like everything makes
a lot of sense yes yeah I mean makes
sense they didn’t get the running back
where they wanted but other than that I
mean it makes sense why they didn’t get
it but I mean ultimately if you said
they come out of this without a running
back I’m surprised but ultimately it
makes sense why given everything else
that happened and Mr Irrelevant will get
picked here in a sec they’ll have their
press conference they’ll sign their free
agents and then here in a month you’ll
start hearing about summer study and
you’ll start hearing about other names
that are coming up we get ready for uh
Mr Irrelevant I know we’re looking right
now at the uh press conference area
waiting for Mike and will and Jerry and
stepen to sit down and talk us through
the picks but here’s the announcement
for Mr Irrelevant with the final
selection of the 20204 draft from the
Jets are relevant you guys are all
relevant So
yeah thank you to lri Uncle Roland Aunt
glow all fans can root for the underdog
so with the final but maybe not
irrelevant pick
with a 257th pick in the 2024 NFL draft
the New York Jets select Jaylen key a
defensive back from Alabama good luck Mr
Rowan congratulations to Jaylen key the
safety from Alabama who got to hear his
name called as Mr Irrelevant 6ot 208
4640 he is a New York Jet and that does
it all the picks are now in the books
and the 2024 NFL Draft is officially
closed again the Cowboys hall Tyler gon
Marshon nean Cooper BBE Maris lual kin
Carson Ryan floro Nathan Thomas and
Justin Rogers thank you so much on
behalf of all of us here at the draft
show standby of course for the Dallas
Cowboys presser on behalf of Chris beam
Jazzy of course our entire team here
Nick Harris Brian brus Aisha Morrison
Bobby B I’m Zach walchuk until probably
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