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Sit back and relax it’s time for your daily dose of Big D energy it was a perfect storm uh you you go back I to me to this day that’s hockey 101 that game you kind of knew it was going to be a a big night that night

It was you know the anticipation that something was going to happen was obviously very high I just remember you could tell it was going to happen can’t never like set it up and plan it but it just kind of things aligned Stars aligned on the ice marcardi found his

Way out there at the same time as when used you had a good feeling something was going to come Larry on and forsberg away from the play now Darren mccardy gets his shots in at quad Lemieux and look who came all the way out to try to help Patrick W thir and

W the me was hammered by mccardy and he is being helped into the locker room 301 days since the hit on Chris Draper yo yo yo what’s going on everybody welcome back to another episode of Big D energy right here in the Woodward Sports Network my name is Neil rule

Dmac Big D Turtle day yeah happy Turtle day to those who celebrate uh kg’s in the house Spencer raxer as well all of you in the Woodward sports.com chat thread get your thoughts in there and yes it is March 26th and yes we’re we’re going to talk

About it and and dmac you and I have had this discussion a lot and I I’m going to take some time here and ask you some questions that people ask me okay Co because it’s interesting and and some of them are you know regular questions that

You get I have some other stuff some behind the scenes stuff that I’ll ask you about it right leg as well right leg first put the pants on right leg first that’s that’s one of the answers that’s one of the answers no absolutely but um

Good to have you back in the fold dmac and and look like Matt Wright the ward sports.com chat thread the greatest night of my life I I remember it was one of those nights where you remember where you were man you remember where you were

We I was uh in my early 20s I think we we had played uh we had played basketball at Joe dummer’s Fieldhouse that’s uh you know the 90s right like that’s that’s what that was and we got back to our apartment and we have flipped it on in the second second

Period I think and I thought man they got to win this game you know like that’s because I told you this I I’m honest with you and I had thought that you guys weren’t going to get it done well it’s the only you know the the gravit toss the the the March

26 when I explain it is because you got to go back and think the the gravity of winning that hockey game was even bigger than getting the revenge and yes if I beat the crap out of the me and whatever but we lose the game and don’t go on to

Win beat them in the playoffs why it was so important is because you got to remember 95 we lose to in the finals when we’re supposed to beat uh Jersey we get swept we get embarrassed stuff like this but we come back regroup 62 wins and then get beat at where Chris dreber

Gets hit from behind game six and stuff all the Rivalry the hatred and the fact that L didn’t apologize and stuff like this well the first three times we played Colorado uh during the 96 9997 series we didn’t win you only play four times so March 2

We had to win the game like that the imperativeness that we knew in the locker room to win the game no matter what everything else was a bonus and that’s why you know winning winning the game was most important and uh why had to sort of let everything play out and I

Always I always like retelling the story cuz it leads you back and it goes you know cuz sometimes it’s not the biggest not the strongest not the fast but maybe the eldest or the wisest that leads leads the way so without eigor larionov starting up with Peter forsberg then are

We even having this conversation and that and that’s something too dmac and if you got something in the chat by the way jump on in there and get your thoughts in there but we are we’re going to do a heavy dose though I’m going to see I’m going Ride the Lightning today

It’s March 26 we we’ll see how far uh that it goes I’ve never in a long form dmac and I haven’t really talked about this in in the fact where I can just fire off questions that I think of because I’ll tell you this dmac the larionov thing is an

Angle a veteran player like larionov when he starts that he knows what he’s not even not even a veteran player I mean remember eigor liranov is a huge monster at 55 145 PB soak and wet he know he know intimidating and you know sort of

Of of but but of that that that Russian generation leadership and and to me that’s why you know looking back over the years and just seeing how it all had to come together and it wasn’t just me I mean I did what everybody who I always

Say no matter man woman child you’re in my position most of us would want that you know opportunity I was just the messenger and that’s something I learned from talking to you because like yeah you scored the touchdown yeah but but the dudes blocked for you you know L was

The guy that blocked for you the fact of I call slaying the dragon and getting the girl which you know beating the [ __ ] out of the biggest villain in not only in your I got your team but in the league you know like I mean that’s and

And the way it played out and if you watch that and just remember at the end of it I got four four minutes for roughing which goes to show you the the league opinion referee and otherwise on at the time thank God Brian Burke not Brandon Shanahan was doing the

Disciplinary at the time Shanny told me 10 you know 2013 that he would have gave me 7 to 10 games for that ber fed me $2,500 but the fact I stayed in the game and was able to score the overtime winner it was that moment I explained it

On the wake up Woodward uh shout out to Kenny and the boys um if you don’t get a chance uh watch some 8 to 10 uh weekdays but I was I was telling them that it was so freaking important right just the way that that it it went down the fact that

Uh you know getting get I got down on my knees beginning of March and was like you know God I can’t do this just whatever it is please let me be the messenger think he listens right which I everybody else feel free to use my phone it’s right there free call you know

Stuff like that so just the fact we’re talking about a 20 seven years later and stuff like well look at look at the people look at the people in the chat dmac electricity I go back to it cuz I remember I do I REM exactly remember

That day and and watching the game and stuff like that and then like when all that went down you know the the fight and everything went down and you you know me you know you know what I was doing sitting there watching I’m like we got to get this win like yeah because

Because it it it’s something that permeates now with the team like everybody’s like well we got to stop people from Taking Liberties I’m like well you do that you score in the power play you win the game and stuff like that because you know and people talk to

Chuck Brewer said Colorado taking our heart and soul we had to respond and we did and then art vanderlay said uh that’s when you knew we were going to win the cup and and our full circle for me yes and no like it was like a regular

Season game but in the end that and I I learned this dmac when when I talk about sports with people and broadcast and sports and and you say how can you pick these games in spots that game was a spot that game was a spot where that

Wasn’t just a regular game and you have and and throughout a regular season every regular season you have five five games that aren’t games they’re you’re hunted it’s different when you’re the hunter as when you’re the hunted and being hunted means that you are you know the if we’re going to take today’s

League you’re the Rangers you’re the floridas you’re the teams that are looking to win Stanley Cups that was US every year so you’re hunted but even when you’re hunted right you have games on your schedule that you put stars beside and every Colorado game was always that now the bigger gravatas to

That to your point is because if we don’t win that game we haven’t proven that the only way out is through that’s the ultimate the only way out is through that that they own us they have our number and stuff like this I talk about it all the time

I’ve had this feeling twice in my life right the feeling of oh my God it’s going to be all right don’t know what it means but it’s going to be all right was after I scored that goal and that wasn’t just me and the team it was the the

Redwing Nation everywhere where we felt like we were tough enough we were good enough we weren’t European too much you know we stuck together and stuff like that and that was felt through the fan base now the other time I always say is when Steve Eiserman was introduced as

Vice president and GM and I stood there in that press conference and same feeling came over me so it’s not when it’s when so that’s what we’re looking for and um I couldn’t think of a better you know looking at looking at comparables Neil is like look at what a

Great day today you get to watch Big D energy go you know watch the 96 game do go watch unrivaled on ESPN to tie it up and then then watch the biggest road game of the year so far for the Detroit Red Wings in Washington tonight um which

Is sort of if you draw Parables it’s like this is as must win for them um maybe not not to the degree of what March 26 was but on in today’s day and age it is this the biggest game in about a decade dud the the home I was there against the the

Islanders at home and and somebody said to me goes you know dmac this is the biggest home game we’ve played in this Barn because we never played a playoff game there and I was like damn yeah you’re right well this is the biggest road game that we’ve played so Patrick K

You know I’m not worried because the guys are when you hear them talking about it and or rating it and stuff Patrick K came out and said that so it’s just a great day to be a Red Wings fan it is no it it absolutely is and like I

Said we’re going to get in depth here on on the March 26 stuff the biggest question that I get dmac we get it in the chat every single time we get to talking about it uh my buddies have asked me to ask you this before take us through the exact

Conversation moments before impact when when you’re leaning in that iconic video footage that’s a second fight that’s a different fight right so so so that that’s that’s the beauty is this March 2697 where Lemieux there was there was not I I’ll bring it back to

And I and I do this when I travel around you have to come out to see the Darren mccardy slaps at Comedy Tour because you get full force me running around the stage doing this but but Neil you always know when he’s on the ice right you know

When Lemieux is on the ice and the well that that’s right because you’re looking for the opportunity but you don’t want to put your team behind so the fact that the whistle blew up for an offside and I see Peter forsberg and eigor laran off in a headlock right and then eigor throw

Two punches my first reaction is oh my my God look at like look at the cute little puppies on Christmas morning right but then I I knew Lemieux was on the ice so my immediate attention went to find him where is he Shark Week right right but but this is the way the

Game goes Adam foot big ugly big noosed Lumberjack strong great yeah he knows that I’m everybody knows right without it even being said like who’s the guy on the you know that so foot grabs me and he’s strong as hell and I’m trying to fight through him and I can’t sort of

Get away and that’s what Shanny comes through double arm breaks me free I fade the linesman and I remember this moment and I tell everybody out there right is put it in the universe right what what you want manifestation only if you are 100 million per serious about it and

Then when that moment comes you have to grasp that moment cuz it’s yours it’s not nobody else CU it’s going to fly by so when I pop through and I saw Claude Lemieux hands down sort of strolling in and you’ll have to watch on Rival to get

His version of it and I popped up and I looked him right between his eyes and I hit him with a with a CO coock which is face to face sucker punches from behind Cole coock right between as hard hardest punch I’ve ever thrown in my life and

The irony is I’m a lefty that was a right oh [ __ ] every man woman and child when I pulled it back in the wing wheel Nation doesn’t matter kitties puppies everything was in that Fist and I hit him so hard I folded him into a turtle which is not true because Cloud Mew

Himself said that he didn’t Turtle he said that’s the hardest he’s ever been hit he was knocked out and I said well thank God I can’t hit you any harder and then we see what goes on right the goalies everybody I don’t know W almost grabs me Shanny and him do the Foles

Because I’m more focused on getting Lemieux and yeah I smashed his head against the boards and need him in the head he’s got a welt to remind him every morning not to be stupid and respect fellow human beings but the the biggest thing is we’re down 53 and we persevered

And able to tie it up and Tic Tac Toe lar on of Shanahan mccardy overtime winner did here 27 years later with four Stanley Cups and nice that’s why for lack of a better term I use March 26 27 years ago 1997 as my Redwing D-Day to to EXP La

Before and after that date so um you know the caveat to right so this is the way the hockey world goes so it comes into the next season Neel to the off the face after you’re talking about ESPN game I line up right winger Cloud M’s

Right winger he comes over to my side you know what was said during that conversation everything by me that could get me cancelled and right like you if you think dmac you say yes I did every man woman child every person in his family every animal every what relative

Whatever like this I said at least I could get like 15 things cancelled Jesus but I didn’t care and I didn’t think he’d honestly draes if I’m mad at drapes for anything he won the draw so I turned away and he blasted me and then and then

It was like okay good he’s GNA fight this time yeah that’s all you want Z and Popp that’s all you want I hope that round that’s I hope that rounded it out that is the definition of onsite I that’s the definition of onsite yeah I love it man onsite

Baby wow look at that we got we’re late for the break wow um now I want to I do want to continue this though because it it is one of the most iconic regular season games in Detroit sports history if not the most iconic I think it’s the

Most yeah you you know leave it Up For Debate or whatever it’s it’s in the discuss it’s it’s there it’s top three whatever you want to say it is so yeah and it’s 27 years ago and and this wasn’t planned by us like we were going

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Celebrate Turtle day Turtle day in the house dmac is here uh my name is Neil rule kg Spencer raxter in the building as well biggest Red Wings regular season game in about a decade tonight against the Washington Capitals uh we’ll we’ll discuss that a lot of hocke here today

Kind of Def facto some of the Motor City Rockers will be stopping by the studio as well they play out their big boy ice arena in Frasier they’re getting ready for the playoffs for the Motor City Rockers and uh I was out there at a game

Had a great time with them and want to just talk to them I DM I want to ask him about hanging on to the dream man like that’s that’s well that’s the level where it is yeah right and and I think too is like how do you coach through

That or how do you coach guys at different levels and stuff and I love if you’ve ever watched any of the Rockers uh pregame you know Nick coach and stuff in the dress room but they always do these claps and they get like it there’s a camaraderie in there and it’s guys who

Love the uh obviously love the game and stuff like that but I I tell everybody listen you don’t have to skate you if I have a stick and you know what it’s like to shoot a ball in the net or a puck in the net or you’re on blades or you’re on

Roller skates or you’re on shoes it don’t matter you’re you’re playing hockey no it doesn’t matter so this is just it’s as as important and here’s the thing Neil it’s entertaining right it’s entertaining and it has more of a throwback minor league hockey feel to guys that like have this passion that

They’re out there they’re not doing it for the money right because you know they can barely you know barely survive it’s probably like playing what like rookie ball or a ball or Stu like that right for pros so uh you know shout out to uh big boy and Frasier and stuff like

That because it’s also you know great atmosphere to do and I love the way that they encapsulate the family atmosphere and low key shockingly great bourbon collection at the bar there at Big Boy ice Serena too I was stunned and there we have it Kenny now we know the real reason they

See rockers I’ll come out there anytime absolutely anytime no wonder you dropped a puck out there it makes sense now no absolutely Neil rule 10th game in a row dropping the right him again huh yeah yeah absolutely uh um our VL my hate for the devils and the Avalanche is still at

The surface um but yeah so so we are we’re we’re talking about March March 26th and you know the the implications and really what happened and you know dmac again I I always go back to this too I I can’t underscore because as I said last segment and I’ve told you this many

Times and said this on the air many times I didn’t think you guys could do it the the the loss the Avalanche the pr previous year kind of broke me and I didn’t think it was going to happen but winning that for me and this is me and I

Know I’m weird I guess I’ve been told for me winning that game was more important than the fight to me to me as a fan no it was I’m trying to because that showed me it it was possible Neil here’s the thing I tried to make it it

Was imperative to us as players too that the number one priority was winning the game right yes like I tell everybody if it didn’t play out the way it did and and it was at the end of the game or whatever would I have done something stupid and jumped on

Their bench or something probably like but thank God God didn’t make me do that like I would have done something like there there something would have happened if it came down to it but our focus and that’s why when I tell the story right the only thing between any

Of us that was ever verbally said about the incident or what was going to go on or anything like that ever was between me and drapes in the hospital getting him out of the hospital two days after the accident the only time when I got

Him in the car and I looked him straight in the face I said don’t worry I’ll take care of it oh man yeah and I asked him where he wanted to eat with his jaw wire shut and stuff but it was a little a question it was Noki it was Noki at Andi

Amo because everybody knows his Lov Noki and by the way if your buddy’s got his jaw wired shut and his face broke in half takes four hours Neil four hours to eat a stinking play to no oh I digress I was still drinking then I was drunk on a

Boat so I don’t care but four hours for anybody there if your buddy gets all messed up but no winning the game and we never talked about it and I love hearing my teammates you know talk about today you know like Shanny has come out and

Said no we never ever talked about it but we sort of knew that if something was going to be done you know I got first crack right it was it’s sort of going through the line yeah I’ve never heard you ask this before and just kind of popped in my

Head because you’ve you you’ve maintained that there was it wasn’t like here’s the checklist here’s how it’s going to go I’m going to do this you said it was never talked about it looked orchestrated like with with the team like you talked about with with Shanny

And what he did where everyone knew what was going down in the in the moment they knew even though it wasn’t talked about so Battle Stations right [ __ ] hits the fan fight or flight right I talky guys are Fighters you know for the for the most

Part or you insulate the the the the flighter right you don’t put them in that position but everybody on the ice and that’s why it’s so that’s why the story narrated as Larry onof initiated it that’s the whole thing that that’s the like the little things right the elders the wisest I

Mean maybe I wish maybe it’s me pleading in society these days as [ __ ] up as everything is is that with somebody with a little bit of Elder wisdom that’s been around maybe just the tide a little bit because it’s it was Battle Stations I mean it was like that that but that’s

Junior mentality dude if your buddies are in it you’re all in Mike Veron out of the net not even thinking about it guys to battle stations and the best part right the best part Nick lrom and whoever else go go over the corner and watch right whoever all your guys and

Forsberg and and Larry H they’re not going to hurt each other rolling around on the ice let the let the men you know take care of the men’s stuff and and so that’s Battle Stations and it’s just sort of like knowing at the end of the day but it’s like that’s that’s just

Second nature and and you know like I saw somebody in the chat thre yes Joey kosher at 104 temperature that that game he didn’t play right so I think because he wasn’t in the lineup also it not only proved to us you like he he’s our pop and our

Heavyweight and stuff like this but we were team tough and I think that it permeated throughout the rest of the league and everybody else and and is is the fact that oh [ __ ] this that’s the last thing that we needed them we we always needed them to think that they

Weren’t Tough Enough for our team and our team toughness because it’s power and numbers we’re not going to one guy we’re not going to send out Goliath right even though you have your Joys and whatever like that but we’re gonna you know we’re gonna vlat and Shanny and

Dmac and Marty and drapes and all you know what I mean we’re gonna we’re gonna get you that way and it was team toughness in that camaraderie to this day that when push came to shove in the biggest moment of all we were all in it together and that’s what you can never

Take away from and that’s when I tell you what do I always say when the guy next to you is more important to you than you are to yourself CU that’s all that is you have no care about yourself right it’s all about your teammate for me it was about retribution and personal

This was as personal as anything’s ever been to me because of what he did to my best friend and I know it’s hockey and all that stuff so again thank you God um where was Sergey and all this he was protected right absolutely he wasn’t

Even on the ice I know that’s what I’m saying our the the the guns were protected you can’t be doing this stuff when sergey’s out around and out there we can’t be putting him in the in the line of fire you know what I’m saying 100 million. thank you and then and then

We didn’t that’s why you know the and it just and and you’re right it it played out like an orchestra what you got kg yeah so um Everybody ask you what you know how how you felt leading up to it how did you feel immediately after you get your

Revenge for Draper you get sent to the boot what is your immediate feeling after that my my immediate feeling after is I’m in in the locker room and watching the replay cuz I don’t know why like we’re watching the replay of all this going down and and it’s one of these

Things is yeah I got him yeah I got him good CU When I need when I smashed his face against the boards and I need him it was that you know that was my version American History X curb stomp yeah to get away with it right like cuz

But the greatest and if you can pull this I don’t know if we can pull this up or whatever but if you watch the video that’s replayed there’s a moment at the end because I’m always last off the ice and whatever that drapes is waiting for

Me and we hug nothing said but that hug there is everything yeah right just I got you brother you know and it and and it’s it’s one of those one of those things that that’s what I was put here to do MH and and you know I’m never

Afraid of uh being first or you know death doesn’t you know I’ll be dead and you got to worry about it then but just because that was the greatest um Brotherhood moment right that we still to this day and and it’s I don’t know it’s just uh out of

Anything when everybody just asks me about what is a great it’s history is so important without this moment being a part of it and it’s not about me me yeah right forget it’s not about me it’s about us it’s about us on the ice sticking up but it’s us the fans and

It’s us and it’s a wing wheel col and it’s you wonder why I can walk around LCA and and get the love that I get and around the state and around the whatever like this to what it is I appreciate that that’s what that’s what keeps me

Here yeah is is to have that effect and um yeah just it’s it’s the it’s love Kenny yeah it was just love that I you know to be and I I don’t you that’s such a great question because it felt like I did my job but it

Felt like more so is a list don’t it’s it’s it’s my brother man I mean I I always joke around it’s like but I’m but I don’t I’m not joking this happened in real life right yeah it’s commissary I get you so um that’s true yeah I can’t say

Anything more than I’m grateful uh chrisa says you got the love over here in Germany too dmac so appreciate you tapping him from Germany what is that Dana Dona Dana yeah Dana all right we will take a break when we come back want to get into a little bit of tigers

Discussion and uh as always we’ll be joined by our guy Dr Jeffrey Pierce as well I got some Casey M questions and how this is going to play out and uh how things have changed and and all of that so so we’ll get into that we got some

Football stuff to get to uh some more hockey to discuss we’ll pick the discussion back up with dmac on the March 26th day a lot going on here on a Tuesday dmac tell them about Guardian Alarm Guardian Alarm the dmac of the security industry Guardian Alarm let them offer you customized solutions from

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It is 27 years ago today and uh as always on Tuesday we’re joined by our guy Dr Jeff Pierce here in the house from the Michigan Sports and Spine Center and uh doc appreciate your time hey happy March 26 to all those that celebrate you’re one right absolutely I

You said I I didn’t want to do the math thanks for doing the math for me I don’t want to feel that Old 27 years ago I know right jeez it’s the people around here act like it’s yesterday yeah it they should anyway you know they I

Watched uh the live golf uh PGA how this day will change golf forever that day changed Redwing hockey forever yes it did PR you heard it from a doctor I mean yeah you’re you’re yeah you’re a doctor he’s he’s a doctor that’s right I was I

Was cleared by Google to say that I think no absolutely um but doc you you are absolutely right about that about about the Red Wings there is uh there is no question uh did want to catch up with you though doc because uh baseball for those that don’t know start first of all

First of all Oakland Grizzlies yes I gotta give a shout out you you you must have been like at the edge of your seat the whole second game but the first one both of them I I’ve never called games like that before I never just the intensity of literally every sing it was

You know what it I was getting game seven NHL playoff VI you know what it was Neil and and here’s the one thing too doc maybe you can talk about the emotional that’s the em but the drain right so so you was never more exhausted

I will say you go through an NHL playoff game and then whatever it is and and the intensity to keep that intensity right where you know where it’s different I mean it’s the whole um what how many minutes you play 40 minutes 40 minutes whole 40 minutes of it’s on plus three

Minute media time after that bourbon hit right that first bourbon hit you didn’t have to get to the second or third right you were like halfway down but it’s the emotions that we can all understand but to go to just play it into medicine and science your body’s in a flex position

The whole time the whole time you’re like fully going you’re like you know you don’t mean realize like if someone said take a deep breath you’re like what are you talking about right like you were just like everything was and that’s the way it is in playoff like when

You’re watching the game when these people at wherever buff who we sponsor Buffalo Wild Wings are sitting there and cheering they’re exhausted and the thing the funny thing is is I don’t know if there’s ever been a study like to win or lose a game how your recovery is cuz

When you lose that recovery is a lot longer than when you win and what is the chemical in your body that’s making you do that it’s not just you know it’s the cortisol levels it’s the adrenaline levels you know there’s there’s a science behind why you probably felt

Like you just played game seven you know the whole season type of thing the only the only other time I can recall kind of even feeling like that physically after calling a game was probably the first game I ever did in the NBA cuz I was terrified and

Um that I guess that’s about it like compare it to because we talked about it right you running that 10K yeah right and getting grinding through that 10K or the like an at when you were done there’s this like relief and stuff of accomplishment the talk about the end of

The first game that you guys won versus the end of the second game because the intensity of both games was right there right to down to the wire well well then they chase it with an overtime game you know to go to the Sweet 16 and like it

Was the it was the exact same I mean there was something extra the the second you get on the air and I didn’t even think about it you brought that up I was sitting there like 10 and here we go and this is and it was just and it it just

Kept playing out that way but no it was uh it was one of those things I will tell you this though Dr Pierce campy was able to use those 3 minute media timeouts to his advantage and and the rotation shrunk a little bit because you got that extra minute of

Rest that was real trey Townson never came off the floor the whole time no he didn’t I mean it I mean we were all look we need I’m a Michigan State guy we didn’t we we didn’t do well we were all rooting for Oakland and you know just it

Was fun it was fun we were actually at the uh LCA watching uh Olivia and we were we’re back you know we got the door open to listen to our music but we’re watching the end of the game and the whole thing and then I need to give a

Shout out for the hockey Michigan State winning the big time Champion go go spny yeah hockey school now hockey school baby get the F on the net you never know in overtime baby all right so not that I don’t want to talk about the Tigers so I wanted to

Get all that out absolutely no no no absolutely no but doc it is it’s funny cuz people like to just to translate what you did into what life’s like that’s why I say not that I’m going to push yoga or taiichi or any of that stuff but there is a science to relaxing

Your body taking a deep breath like even the two of you if we want to like right now I make like when I’m in a room with a patient I’m like take a deep breath like I just did this to a woman who’s a big time engineer with a really huge company and

Her whole body hurts I’m like when’s the last time you took a deep breath right you need to relax all that muscle when you’re staying constant like TMJ at night and you know all these things are bothering you get neck pain you get stress all these things if you’re being

Proactive it yoga plays a role relaxation plays a role meditation plays a role you need to relax your bodies you need to turn the mechanism of the firing of the muscles off right so it’s like chronic pain or back pain like I was talking to one of your people out here

He’s got ongoing low back pain cuz he’s in a constant Flex position where the muscle is just continuing to fire you need like some of the simple stuff early on in your 20s and 30s learn how to take a deep breath so right now I’m going to

Make us all take a deep breath and where your chest fully expands and just let everything out and feel the difference I’ll do it Ma that’s you too what take a deep breath like bro doc I got enough cannabis flowing through my system I’m always Rel Spence I want you taking a deep

Breath you’re stand you’re standing in for Mac today it did it did it let go a little bit there but it does and then like you mean do it fully like your chest should really expand like you’re huge and then just L it all out it’s

Counts of four so you breathe in for four you release you hold for four release for four and relax so the secrets of the four and usually want your mouth open but if you start doing that and patients start doing it finally we have a call to action on my show I

Want everybody to take a deep breath and and relax because it is you don’t understand like muscle spindles we talk about regenerative we talk about exosome we talk about cellular it’s all relaxing because when you’re fully flexed your muscles are shortening they’re tightening they’re firing and you’re

Cing a chronic firing pattern right if I break that cycle just for a minute you break it it resets and the it’s healthier for your your your structure people in the chat right now are bringing up uh Mike Mike O says stretching too way underrated I’m I’m terrible I I I run a

Lot you know probably about 25 miles a week that’s good I never I I because I can’t fit it in you know what I’m saying like stretching if you’re going to do it right it’s probably what a 20 minute proposition 20 minutes is good yeah I

Can’t I don’t know it’s just like and to take time you know when you add it in when you were really hurting yes and then you’re being reactive instead of proactive correct so put that in the chat room yeah no I do I’m terrible you’re going to get listen not

These are all the conversations that you have this is like part of Doc’s Doc’s got a whole I got all the pier flashbacks of of cuz he will let you know exactly oh you like so we so we’re going to react to things instead of get in front of

Things right yeah it’s just and especially for the young athletes like like right now this morning one of my son’s friends they’re juniors over at school and they’re playing lacrosse one of the kids is not going to play today because he’s got an ongoing back pain it’s just you’re not Invincible you got

To be proactive these guys are lifting you know they’re at that age where I got to lift I got to gain muscle mass and they’re not doing it you know I want to say they’re doing it properly but they’re but they’re not they’re whipping the the the weights up and they’re doing

That quick reaction thing and you’re not doing the long sustain lengthen the full muscle do slow and Recovery you know it’s two up four down you know those kind of things you need to start realizing are important earlier in life because we do want to be more preventative proactive because Medicare

Is not going to be there when you’re 16 well hey thanks for the reality check there doc hey I’m getting close to it I don’t think there’ll be any Medicare right then we all get there uh wward sports.com chat through at Andrew Schmidt says uh that felt good doc

Thanks uh but then there’s bada bing bada boom I stretched once back in 1996 that’s about the last time I probably stretched too why why am I not why why don’t I do that I know it’s because you’re getting away with it right you’re getting away with it and it’s going to

Be I’m not going to change until something forces me to change or if doc throws a brick at me five times on the show right I’m going to think about it because I mean Mac Max’s king of not listening on the first run really or the second really so some haven’t changed in

27 years but no it it’s proven to yourself right like I I’ll design the best workout program but if you’re not into it you can’t relate to it it doesn’t matter how much money you’re spending on me or trainers or anybody you have to find some love that you you

You want to do you love running 25 25 miles a week is a good run you know that’s that’s good but some Runners like I dealt with the runners early in my career I got the running team came out of uh I think it was Canton or something

And they go we heard you’re the new hot Sports Medicine dock in the area and the thing was they criticized me because I wasn’t a runner I gave him all the facts but I wasn’t a runner so therefore I didn’t have credibility I mean it took

Me a couple more years I didn’t play hockey either like these guys but I finally got credibility but but here’s and like to take it back around right where when doc Pierce cuz what what you need is he’ll explain this is what we’re going to do but this is why right so if

You know like your motivation to do it and if you understood that you didn’t have to maybe run as much if you implemented the stretching to get what you wanted to get out of it that that’s where Doc and I know from personal experience well he will explain okay so

You don’t want to do that or whatever but what are we going to put into it and at the end of the day it’s what you’re willing to do but you also know why right like Spenny you’re a great example right now as I just saw you with your

Oakland uh tank top pumping it out at Planet Fitness yesterday about slowly but surely but right it’s getting in that sort of routine but if you you know what you’re trying to accomplish and if you have somebody like Doc to explain it to you because you’re not try you’re trying

To uh get your body better getting better shape and stuff like this you don’t want to hurt yourself you don’t want to do it you want to do it correctly right CU your goal at hand and if he gives you the pathway and this is the road of least resistance it’s not

Work and that and that’s the one thing is it it it and Doc had to do this with me is you got to make it like he can make it into like not a competition but something where where it relates where it relates and you know why you’re doing

It so you can invest into it I think that’s the big thing instead of just like oh okay go run that’s the way it used to be it used to be you could follow guys around but I didn’t need even though I tell everybody it was easy

Back in the day I just follow drapes and Stevia around but the reality is Doc would say well you need to do a little bit more of this away from what they’re doing talking with Dr Jeffrey Pierce as we always do every Tuesday the medical director of the Michigan Sports and

Spine centers and uh I’m getting this in the chat right now and originally we were going to do the we’ll do the baseball thing next week we can talk about Tommy John for a minute no that we’ll we’ll do that next week um we got because it’ be perfect for opening day

Week yeah uh Jay Washington says watch Neil end up like Justin Jefferson with a hamstring injury out for seven weeks for not stretching all right let’s cut the is Doc you’re here right now A lot of people do this we got you know we got some runners in the chat and stuff like

That what’s that I love when you put me on this spot let’s go yeah let’s go all right enough all right let’s stop dancing around it let’s get into it um I stretch for about 30 seconds before I start running now I’m not preon and I’m not Justin Jefferson I’m not running a

4240 or anything like that we ramp up the treadmill you know I run about 6 and a half miles an hour I run that for my hour you know and that and that’s how I operate there’s no huge sprinting it should I stretch more before or no because I feel like I’m not

I’m not overexerting or anything like that I’m warming up into it I don’t get a good sweat going until about a mile and a half in or so and am I am I all right or no be honest with me we’re never going to argue that stretching isn’t beneficial there’s something we

Call a dynamic warm-up so what you’re describing is that you’re doing a pseudodynamic warm-up I kind of pace myself a little bit slower I let my muscles warm up I let you know to lengthen and you are doing it right so is your you know to get you on the

Ground and see how tight your hamstrings are is something else to do but you may be short running right you know what that so you’re not getting full length like when we look at hockey players when I look at young kids hockey players that don’t know they’re injured you start

Seeing that they short stride right so that’s a first red flag T that there’s something wrong with that side or their pathology there so I don’t know if you you you’re running efficiently you’re running like a distance Runner a sprinter what are you doing but what you’re actually doing is creating a

Dynamic warm-up not the best but it’s better than nothing so you stretch your 30 seconds you get into like a slower pace and then you okay my body feels better I’m going to up the up the speed to six and a half or whatever you’re doing so you’re kind of doing a little

Bit of a pseudo warm up get ready get my body ready for me Doc cool all right I’m all right no I’m kidding go ahead no but but that’s the thing are is your stride shorter than it was 10 years ago you said you’ve been doing this forever do

You have the exact same thing how you hitting the ground are your shoes wearing out differently we look at all that for proactive preventative right if you if you don’t change your shoes if you don’t even know to change your shoes after so many miles you know those are

The things you do you don’t wear the same pair of shoes every time you run if you’re running seven days a week that’s not healthy there’s a lot of preventative proactive tips but to get just down to the true stretching always stretch younger ages yeah your

Elasticity is a little bit better but as you age got you know you got to be you got to respect the the Holy Grail of your body well well doc um I appreciate the time appreciate the honesty you know what I know we didn’t mean to go down this

Direction but you know what it’s real life it’s real life here you know what I’m saying you know we want to talk more what’s going to benefit the viewers and what they want to hear and you know encouraging the chat we’re you know what direction they want if they want to talk

You know but professional athletes they shouldn’t have any issues they should be proactive preventative but again it gets to the young guys that just ignore the trainer like you know we’ve talked to brillan before br’s like yeah early on I I I skipped the training room you know a

Lot of that’s happening but the messaging down I want to say like we take care of a lot of young hockey players and they added this Dynamic warm-up but nobody’s actually watching are they really doing it you know like this kid that I have my my son’s friend

You know he did it most likely from I just want to see how much weight I can lift you know those things it gets competitive so how to be proactive and mature and smart people are going to make the same mistakes that’s why I’m in

Business you know at the end of the day um but the more but the more but but going to someone like me over someone else that’s what I would encourage you got to go to some like I appreciate Mac all the time doing the the shout outs

For me but honestly research who you’re seeing don’t go to where your your insurance dictates we’re we’re I can get on another Soap Box I know we’re running out of time but insurance is dictating too much of what’s going on you may need to drive a little bit further you may

Need to spend a little money on a real doctor that can really help you because if you waste 4 to 8 weeks with a doctor doesn’t get it or doesn’t know what he’s doing you’re you’re causing ongoing issues that turns chronic because the classic thing is I went to the dock I

Did it for eight weeks it didn’t get it all better I’m just dealing with it then they come to me two years later it’s like I just had the woman I told you about the engineer that’s the exact story it’s like do the research there’s plenty of research out there you know

Whatever I I don’t want to get on so great so do is the fact that speak from experience that you are you are my guy you were my guy we’ve had these experiences and you’re not a you know somebody that somebody out there the person out there watching Woodward right

Now that has a question that either has waited too long or doesn’t wait too long can reach out to you and find out or do the research right like that I think that that’s the caveat is that we do have history and it’s not somebody sitting there is that like that that’s

Why I sit here and I go like when you’re talking to Neil we’ve had all these talks and you’ve all the frustration through all of us and the one thing is is that that about Doc is he’s got patience and the one thing is that he

He’s like me he’ll tell you the truth and sometimes you don’t want to hear it but it’s your actions right but it’s the why you are you waited too long if you can you know come back from it so like here I always say don’t tell me what

Tell me who here’s my who so if that matters or doesn’t matter at the end of the day what what what’s important to you is that people get the information and look into it no matter if it’s you or not I get that but I’m saying that no

Dude this this is a guy to literally put me back together and you can reach out to him too I don’t have the fancy Tik Tok with a million followers I mean I suck but I got my social media person’s here today she’s like let’s do some Tik

Toks I we looked up this gu got do some dances doc all right you g to dance with me one time not me that’s I’m saving that for my Tik Tok all right well doc we app we appreciate your time on your Tik Tok then we appreciate the time as

Always uh in the chat real quick before we let you go here um I’m salty love to hear a doc very knowledgeable uh GW the kid always always good to have doc on he’s been very informational and um yeah you know that’s uh that’s what it is

We’ll talk we’ll talk that means a lot that keeps me coming so if I can educate one change somebody I’m happy to keep coming absolutely doc we’ll talk to you next week I I promise we’ll do the baseball stuff next week that’s how you all right all right Dr Jeffrey Pierce

Everybody every Tuesday uh the medical director of the Michigan Sports and Spine Center they do comprehensive treatment programs uh for sports For Occupational uh issues as well so certainly the the pros and the Joe’s uh that is Dr Jeffrey Pierce so we’ll take a break we’re a little bit late tell

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Sports.com uh wward sports.com chatre lfg great segment far less painful than Pistons talk even talking about stretching yeah that I was never that I’ll tell you this that was one thing I didn’t get into until like like not for my hocky for my golf game yeah no no for for go I

Like oh you got to play hockey like this and stuff like that but golf oh okay I got to make sure I’m loose and stuff that’s the only time that I stress so that’s my motivation right and and in all honesty right as I got older and whatever my

Relationship with Doc is that I’d want to know is like okay but how is it you know going to benefit my golf game he’s like you don’t worry about a right so that’s me being like where you say two three different times or whatever like that so you got to always

Figure out what your motivation is because it’s what you’re willing to put in and put out uh Loreno Rios Neil finally seeing things clearly today people are giving me crap I forgot the glasses yesterday I’m still getting used to glasses life you know like because I

Don’t I don’t again guys I have 2020 Vision until we get about here here we go all right what Mr I want to set the record you’re not like me that can’t once I leave the house I need the glasses I won’t be able to read no I can function in everyday

Life without them you know what I’m saying like I can I don’t need him when I drive or anything like that 2020 is a stretch though I 20 he told me that 2020 Vision till we get to about here you at uh 14 no no that’s not what he said

That’s not what he said at all come on bro I just want to set the record straight on that okay and yes I forgot them yesterday everybody all right you ever forget you ever forget your cell phone or anything I forgot them you got to keep up with the glasses man no how

Many pairs do you have um just this one wow yeah so I mean beginner wait till you break them I need to see if you’re pissed or not I’ll be upset yeah not going to lie those those are sexy specs though I mean they’re they’re they’re like they’re good glasses I mean they’re

R out of the eyes from in Draper collection I mean you sophisticate well you know like I I with b i I know you told me that Steve gave you the card to this guy there there’s a salary cap test you have to take before you get these

Glasses these glasses are very cap compliant you know what I’m saying you aced it too I know you did um rack Neil didn’t stretch his corneas now they are revolted no I just I don’t stretch man and I know and I know that I should Str either I know I should definitely should

And I don’t and I understand that Anthony P you blind ckg you see what you see hey man that’s what I was pushing against man that’s what I was pushing against and you started this [ __ ] I’m sorry I’m just I’m just checking on you Neil you’re a dick bro like for real kg

Um how old are you 31 oh oh nine years he’s got it like he didn’t my parents both had glasses it’ll definitely Happ hey if you learn anything from me just be warn that I once um chirp the vulnerable Paul coffee with his pop bottle of Grandpa glasses and about 2

Weeks later I had to go get my own pair just I’m just it did it did come on quickly though like I’m not I’m not going to lie like but he’s still got but but you held out because you’re you’re past mid 40s like you’re on the latter

Side of the M hey so you can piss off on this like the eye doctor he’s like hey you you you fought the good fight for about seven you’re about seven years later than K you’re 31 yeah damn I know right it look good on me but I the reason I

Tease you is because I’m prideful in my 2020 Vision as well so I’m going to be like you one day when it’s time to go get the the specs I’m going be fighting it but it’s okay if you’re not 2020 William turno Neil open the wallet buy a

Second pair of glasses uh I did the plan came with two I got the Rayband sunglasses about contact you ever felt the contact route before no I wouldn’t want to touch my I cannot I cannot put my finger in my eye there there’s there’s no chance not a chance yeah no

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Talk some Motor City Rockers hockey they’re getting ready to do battle coming up quickly here uh in the federal Prospect Hockey League playoffs from Big Boy arena in Frasier uh was out to a game uh about two weeks ago man had a great time just wanted to have them on

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House as well we talked a lot of hockey today let’s let’s just keep it rolling as a matter of fact we are joined right here in studio from the Motor City Rockers that play their games at the big boy ice arena in Frasier and we welcome

Scott coash and of course as well Nick gulo the the Motor City rocker in the house today guys you guys are sitting in second place right now in the standings and uh you know as as you look at it getting or at least trying to lock up

That second seed uh in the playoffs in the Empire division you’re coming down the stretch how are you guys today good how are you good happy to be here thanks for having us oh yeah absolutely um I wanted to get you guys on I was out there uh from Frasier born and raised

Obviously know the uh the the the hockey history uh out there in Frasier but was out there uh took in the game you guys playing Watertown got that big uh that big dub when I was out there but I wanted to just touch base with you guys

Too as as you come down the stretch here of the season playoff time man you guys you guys locking in you guys ready to roll or what’s the story here oh yeah playoff time is the best time in the world so we’re all ready for that one so

It’s going to be a fun time yeah and for those that don’t know the federal Prospects hockey league um you know fullon professional minor league hockey uh Team import hon as well I want to ask them about that the good robal stuff I mean on March 26 and never else my

Question is guys obviously um where a lot of people maybe aren’t familiar with the league um what was the biggest misconception maybe you guys had coming into playing like where did you play before before before you played here but you know people have a misconception

About how good the hockey is and and you know I guess to relate it you know to like single a baseball and stuff like this but you have a different plethora of Ages of guys in different parts of their Journeys and and their hockey career but maybe like what was the

Biggest misconception that you had before playing in the league um I think obviously When anybody comes in this league used to have a stigma of just being like basically like a big goony men’s league donke right there a whole bunch of donkeys right just a bunch of just hoodlums out there just doing

Whatever crazy [ __ ] they wanted to do out there um but now you’re looking at more it’s a lot of like Junior kids who don’t go the college route or a lot of division three college players um just trying to like climb the ranks like any

Hockey player is um I think just like in the any level of hockey you’re seeing kind of that um more goon goonish player kind of fizzle its way out which I think it you need it but now those type of players have to play hockey as well you

Can’t have these big like six seven buffoons out there not knowing how to skate so yeah I mean coming from college going right into into this league starting out I actually got up to the SP which is a little bit right above it and then coming down last year everybody was

Like all right it’s the fed you know be ready protect yourself and I was like oh I got here and I’m like great I’m going to get attacked by some 65 guy and everybody’s you know it got to the point where it’s like everybody’s skilled now so everybody was trying to you know

Handle themselves and play their own game but I think after you know a few years of guys coming in and so many play from all over the place all over Europe and stuff coming down it’s it’s turning into a skill game y so which is nice for

Short guys like us where we’re not getting attacked by six5 guys every weekend so right you’re getting you’re getting a large like European population coming in too like a lot of Russians um a decent amount of Czech Republic people or players coming in well so you’re getting that more North American gritty

Style but you’re getting that European flare as well where it’s a little more finesse and skill and and playmaking like that too so it’s it’s it had a bad rep but it’s getting better each year just like you see at all levels the skill and speed is just increasing by a

Crazy amount uh talking Motor City Rockers hockey here out there big boy ice arena in Frasier they’re getting ready for their final playoff push sitting there in second place in their division right now and uh make sure you go to MC rockers hockey.com get on out

There because it is a good time it’s right there in a lot of people’s backyard as well uh Scott wanted to to ask and this is really Nick for both of you guys as well um the dream right you’re still you’re out here because you’re you’re chasing a dream you want

To be a professional hockey player you are a professional hockey player you make money playing the game of hockey I’m always infatuated with that right because you guys are on the road and for those that don’t know uh your road trips are kind of grinds like when you guys

When you guys go on the road you’re going to Columbus Georgia oh yeah uh playing three games in three Friday night Saturday night Sunday afternoon then it’s what you know 12-hour bus ride yeah uh back to League bus League the bus League where you bus Everywhere You

Bus everywhere no we don’t have sleeper buses either they’re all coach buses they’re regular coach buses that’s what I’m saying and for like you know I I I’m a play-by-play guy for mid- major college basketball so I I know that life you know to some degree uh you you know

All the tricks of the trade on how to get comfortable and things like that and some some nights it just won’t hit sometimes there’s a benefit of being a little guy you can just sleep on the floor it’s perfect fit in the seats fit right in between it’s it’s wonderful no

Absolutely grinding towards a dream guys tell me about it I I mean ever since I was a kid uh growing up watching NHL hockey you always strive to do whatever you can to make it to that you know level and uh sometimes it’s just it’s

Not meant to be in that aspect so I mean we have to find our ways where you know some of these leagues may this may be our NHL and this may be you know but you but you are in the dream right now like you guys professional hockey players you

Make money to play hockey you and this is something SC because I wanted to bring this up because a lot of people will say well well you didn’t make it to the NHL yeah but I make money playing this game this game that I love that I

Played since I was a kid so to me Scott like and Nick you guys you guys did make it when I when I sat there and I was at the game and I was talking about this with my family cuz my son asked you know well you know where did they did they

Play in the NHL and stuff you know they ask kid questions and stuff like that and I I said they’re professional hockey players man they made it I I don’t give a [ __ ] what anybody says you guys made it man and that’s and it it’s that’s

Important to me to tell that story well I I think too like right after college or even high school for that matter a lot of players in whatever sport you have they they stop that competitive game is now over right it’s men’s league or beer league or just recreational fun

I think we’re fortunate enough yes we get paid to play a game for a living that we love to do but we’re still being competitive when not a lot of our peers are competitive anymore um and I think too for me I didn’t when I when I when

It’s all said and done I didn’t want to have any wh ifs or that urge to play anymore right I wanted to you know get it all out of my system and it’s brought me to so many like crazy places and I’ve met so many like amazing people because

Of it that’s going to impact my life professionally after hockey so yeah it might not be like the Glorious NHL but to us we’re still impacting families we’re still impacting kids so to to us right we we have still made it and it’s and it’s awesome right yeah to to build

Off to build off what he said like when I was in my senior year of college like I actually this is how Nick Nick go and I met each other we uh we were actually in Danville playing in the FED they’re no longer a team anymore but I left

School right before playoffs because it was just one of those decisions where it was like you know what like do I want to start my pro career off where it’s like I have a chance to play now and get my you know foot in the and then that year came obviously Co hit

And the year kind of stuck but the next year I I was lucky enough I sat down with uh my parents in the summertime and uh I got a call from Mon and the SP and they’re like hey like you know CO’s hit a lot of the guys that were on the team

You know the past year have gone up to the coast like do you want a shot and I was like absolutely and I sat down with my father and he was like well let’s you know let’s talk about this and it was a serious talk he was like you know is is

It going to be something that you can you know Bank on where it’s like are you going to be making enough money and I was like at the point of that I was like I just want to get my name out there and honestly if I didn’t sit down have that

Conversation I probably would have stayed home got a normal job and I’m glad I took the decision to go out to make it my dad realized it and then obviously along the year I met my beautiful fiance when I I played in mon so you know she’s helped kind of bring

That to light where it’s like ity may not be all that big of money but it’s it’s a job like I get to go every year looking forward to the fall knowing I get to play hockey for a job and that’s I mean I would strive to think that’s

What everybody in this league thinks of because we’re all on the same boat but we’re also here playing for money so it’s great I think another misconception is too even though it’s like single a or minor leagues that we’re not working as hard as maybe players in like a higher

Professional League where we’re still training in the summer on ice and off ice it’s harder it’s harder people understand it’s harder it’s it’s you’re cuz we have to do that much more to try and make it and right there’s already that stigma so we’re trying to beat that

Stigma about the league we play and and so yeah you almost have to work doubly as hard sometimes you know the similarities to more that I realize it’s not baseball it’s wrestling all the stuff with the independent stuff and independent wrestlers there’s jobs all around and guys that are grinding out

You know gig to Gig and stuff like that a lot of the things so it’s about the passion like let’s let’s talk about the team right let’s talk about what each of you tell me why people should come out and watch you what will they see like it’s

What what kind of team does the Motor City Rockers have like for and and obviously going into the playoffs right you’re in second place right now but how do you bring how do you bring that trophy home I I think one you’re going to see a a team of guys that obviously

Are trying to get noticed individually but you’re also seeing a team of guys who you have a nice mixture of veteran guys and a couple rookies that we all want to win and I know that’s a cliche answer but it’s the truth um we all do

This because we want to win we love it we want to win I think if you come to one of our games you’re going to see a lot of running gun hockey which can be good and bad sometimes no it’s I love wide open man it was great be you were

You were flying down that ice BR you live and die by it sometimes right so um I I think too right you’re you’re trying to find and find tun and everything going into the playoffs so yeah you’re going to see some mistakes but you’re going to see some mistakes for the right

Reasons trying to figure everything out and uh get all those screws and bullets tightened up before the playoffs and then I think too yeah it’s minor league professional hockey so you’re going to see some some wild [ __ ] happen out there too let’s be honest I mean it it does

Have it does live by its name I mean it is the Fed you got guys that are skilled in this league now and then you got guys that can throw hands so in these games it’s you get it’s 50/50 it can be you know a nice grueling skill game or it

Can be one of those gong shows where it’s like like we’re just trying to get you know a one two goal lead and then you know we’ll keep it and then if it gets to the point we have guys that can handle their own and fight but we’re

More or less trying to be that skillful team where we can put the puck in the back of the net and just bury teams with uh goals all right Motor City Rockers everybody here in the house Scott coash the uh leading scorer on the team 26

Goals on the year in 45 games Nick Gullo with us uh as well go to MC rockers hockey. Columbus in town this weekend uh that’s relevant for a couple of reasons they are 36 and4 on the season uh they have put it together but bigger than that it’s $2

Beer night over there at Big Boy Ice Arena you see what I’m saying yeah like it’s $2 beer I it’s electric in that place and you even said if that’s not your jam said the bourbon selection hey real lowkey the best bourbon a better bourbon selection than LCA a better

Bourbon selection than any other arena in this town and if you’re not going to believe anything else I say believe me when I tell you that they got the wellers out there the Blandon yes guys at Big Boy ice Serena in Frasier if the $2 beer isn’t your scene high level

You’re petitioning and and we got uh Parker don’t call me Kyle in the building so the fact is did you guys win when Neil dropped the puck yes 4 to one four to one okay so I don’t see why you shouldn’t be back for the playoffs at

Least didn’t you almost lose your eye I know yeah that I almost lost my eye thanks for coming too so all right well keep the luck up maybe we’ll take the other one out next time it’s fine what what what what happened there uh just little little stick in the face which is

Normal dust at least you still got your teeth side basically you wear visor yeah oh yeah oh yeah yeah but when you’re basically like at knee level of everybody else a lot of sticks come up and hit you a lot I’m not that far I’m not that far in

Front of you man I lost I lost half my teeth I actually have I’m missing one now because of that right the game after it took two face keep coming out let’s see what else body parts we can leave sounds like can be crooked that’s

What it’s all about can be CR asked can you get dmac in the lineup and I said unfortunately you know what they don’t have the budget Ian white Ian white did it came McIntyre did it yeah absolutely W sports.com chat years younger than me uh Terry says what’s the league called it’s

A federal prospects Hockey League professional minor league hockey out there in Frasier the FED uh as it’s known as well spenny’s got the link to the Motor City Rockers up there in the chat but guys I appreciate you coming through man because I love that story I

Love the 11-hour bus ride I love that you guys put your work in you don’t have a $10 million facility to go get your work in you got to go get your work in wherever you can get your work in man I just wanted you to know that uh I was

Thankful coming out there and seeing you guys and and the stories are noticed man I just wanted to say it that way to you guys man I appreciate your grind and I love talk I love hearing your story man for sure yeah we appreciate us than I

Think to it just it makes you a better person in the end too right you have to go through the trenches and really nothing phases you after this it Al it also brings in some crazy crazy stories with being on bus for I’m going to need

To sit out we get we I have the comic book Donnie Brook right you know with Timmy and has Burnaby Blazers and [ __ ] like that so we need all the stories they go in the comic book so [ __ ] goes on in 11 hour bus ride that people even will never understand we never

Understand you got to find time on the road to keep yourself occupied too so there’s there’s enough to do there lot of lot of lot of movies lot of people just bullshitting and just talking a lot of people at rest stops that’s a common one too yeah that happens from time to

Time that’s right tell anybody no ly check you guys don’t have a ling check hey my line mates were all there at one point what’s up one at one point at at one point they started there at one point they started there and magically disappeared I thought he was

Next to me and next you know he was sleeping up in the overhead compartment no he was in the listen Scotty we know we’ll teach them to pass the puck a little bit more either way yeah we stuck him up in the compartment a couple times

So small I told you I can get creative with where I sleep so good for you man good for you absolutely that’s that’s a positive for you but again Columbus in town this weekend they’re 36 and four so come on out watch him take down the Giants have some $2 beers or some

Wellers bourbon whatever your flavor is out there at the big boy Ice Arena appreciate you fellas yeah thank you you guys absolutely big thanks to Parker Brown too for hooking it all up Motor City rockers in the house today we’ll be back with more Big D energy tell them

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Speaking of which not hockey related but giveaway related we have the winner of the Jack goal key uh giveaway absolutely absolutely we do and let’s uh let’s get to that right now as a matter of fact our winner of the signed NCA tournament program by America’s hero Jack gky none

Other than Sam Corbin at samore Corbin 24 congratulations uh you are the winner of the jack gky NCAA tournament program so that is pretty cool as well uh he inscribed that too 10 three-pointers vers Kentucky so that’s uh that’s pretty dope but uh congratulations Sam appreciate you

Tapping in to Big D energy Loreno Rios Neil is a good Puck dropper I wanted to ask I wanted to ask the boys too because Scott was out there I dropped the puck it was perfectly flat dmac per no bounce in and perfectly flat really that’s what

You guys love man absolutely no you you could be hired you probably do it better than 60% of them I that slap slap I I took uh I took a lot of pride in it you practiced I 100% I did absolutely uh people ask me the how was the scotch

Selection we’ve been through this before Spenny I’m not weathered enough I haven’t seen enough I haven’t been through enough to drink Scotch yeah hey uh I haven’t been through a spny I just sent you something to your Twitter now that we’re still talking hockey before we get off

Uh I posted did you get that picture I just sent you oh yeah yeah um can you post it so we can just say I thought this um on you know now that’s March 26 but one of the best things that I saw um over the past uh few days over the

Weekend um was Vladimir constantinof in uh sled did you see this no I didn’t um spny will pull it up but uh shout out to everybody who made that happen uh so the now now we got vlat out there uh in a in a sled hockey uh oh that’s that’s very

Cool man yeah exactly so they got him his own sled and stuff like that and I saw him out there stick handling the puck uh Brad G had just uh how’s vlat doing man I uh so Bell Tires sled hockey team Kim Ms can’t skate can’t play for

Special needs uh they they went in and they got it look at them I mean look at like look it head down rightand shot you like in this Glee and I tell everybody this and every we got the game the other day BD the horn or whatever and the more

That he’s around but um he he he’s better I mean he seems to get better every time you see him what like like the interactions even just the little combinations that like he’s called me back for a while and stuff like that but just you know when you ask him a few

Things and you and you can see that he’s there right so shout out to uh everybody making this possible look at her like if you see vlat in that he’s happy as [ __ ] right there so um you know that’s what it’s all about no absolutely and it is

It’s good to see vlat getting in the mix I know he’s been doing some autograph signings with our guy John Yu oh yeah and beating people at Uno and you know stuff like that still doing it so yeah AB absolutely um speaking of John Yu uh Jack gki

Autograph signing mhm Pro Sport Zone Sunday April 7th 12:30 to 2 p.m. Jack gki will be out there there with Trey Townson uh signing autographs and that just that just goes to show you man two hours can change your life yeah forever do you think as we’ve been talking all

Day on this March 26 2024 we go back 27 years no TR statement has been said by you sir yes I experienced that and and and that’s great to see and and that’s awesome and and I think that and and relate to it as we were talking about

Before where Jack C you is this like real like why he texted me so he jack texted me last night and this yeah listen to this Benny he text me last night and he goes Neil is this like for real I I had to leave he had to leave

The grocery store in Rochester he had to leave the grocery store people are flocking around him yeah like that’s awesome cuz you know he takes every picture and you know does every autograph and like so somebody came up to him and then when they were talking to him another person saw him then

Another person saw him another person saw him so like and and he did it like he stood and signed all the autographs and took all the pictures but then after like the line overwhelm trying to get out you’re right I mean Hey listen no right and and here’s the thing where I

Would say and this is the first week of whatever else right it’s a learned it’s a it’s a lifelong learning experience with yourself to be you know not comfortable of this right like uh I look at my journey it’s like 30 years that I

Think I got a grasp on how to how I want to do it but I also know is I don’t put myself in those positions right where I know that if I’m not in the mood he’ll realize that but but it also too I love watching the interview yesterday because that’s who

He is and I have I have the same thing that I forget sometimes you know but it’s it’s the fact of and and maybe I would tell uh Jack this when somebody made me understand that when somebody gives you flow right when somebody gives you the car

It’s like you have to take them because it’s their experience that they’re sharing if you don’t take them it’s you’re being self more selfish because you’re not sharing that moment or whatever it means bigger than everything else so I think of anything I’ve tried to get better at that even though still

It’s the most uncomfortable thing and I think that his self-awareness to whatever that it’s not going to change because he captivated a nation for a small moment of time that won’t go away right it is it it’s actually absolutely been uh incredible wward sports.com chap thread uh great show today guys right

People like it because like we didn’t we didn’t plan on it being like this it just kind of and that’s how we work here on Big D Energy may there’s a little less structure I guess you would say than uh you know maybe some of the other

Shows here kg I’ll say it like that it’s The Vibes VI we’re a Vibe show everybody chat it’s but Neil that’s the way we do it Spenny does these and I think he he puts on the top somewhere these are suggestions are s Spenny yes sir if not

We can always talk about them tomorrow but I think that’s that’s the beauty of you know where where Big D energy and what sports about the people is the fact that you know we’re living life right now you I mean in real time Woodward Sports please keep up the good work love

The format and the interactive entertainment well I mean you know as I said you guys carry the show I just I just kind of sit here and read the defense and take what the defense is giving me you know if it’s well that’s the best part Neil is that you’re like

You know the lante David or whatever like that you’re the best in the business that reading the room you conduct the orchestra that’s that’s exactly what it is uh John Clark Spen you’ll like this one scotch is for the refined you better stick to your zema Neil I think that’s a little aggressive

Zema’s aggressive but I’m not a scotch guy I I don’t like I’m not a I don’t I’m not a liquor straight guy unless I’m doing shots you get you’ll get there like just siing you’re still you’re you’re I baby yeah I I was at your point

To be a scotch guy gosh darn it doesn’t even have glasses not even wait till he’s like 40 you got to go through some stuff and be weathered you know like weathered I’ll rip some tequila shot I’ll rip our brand we don’t spny we don’t

Expect you to be in the Scot yet give me a bottle of Don Julio and I’m going nut what do you think Neil spny how old are you 27 oh yeah you still got he’s got now he’s got about 5 years before you slow before he starts tow dipping and

Skinny dipping in every now and then to whatever but I think it’s a 10 12 year process before you know him and Danny raxer blowing cigars and scotches on the back porch it’s too py for me again I’m not Tough Enough I I can raise my hand

Dmac you know I deal in fact and if if I have a shortcoming I I’ll be out there and tell you about it I’m not tough enough to drink Scotch I’m just not a guy like Danny raer that’s been through the battles that’s that’s callous look

At the household yeah you know what I’m saying that Ray Spencer rages that guy Spencer’s the youngest of all the Savage raer if you if you raise Spencer raxer you’re weathered we had um me so me and my brother Cole shared a room for the

First like 12 years of my life and we were [ __ ] so at like 2 am. we would scream random [ __ ] in the middle of the night to just like wake people up like we’ just scream [ __ ] louder and louder and we had a china cabinet in our in our

Kitchen and so we just keep screaming it until we heard my dad stomping through the kitchen and the china cabinet would Rattle and then we’d pretend to sleep and of course he’d come in and [ __ ] throw [ __ ] at us and yell at us but yeah

We do that all the time like it’s said weather like that Neil right okay no you know hold on here I know we’re late for the break but I have to address this with what’s going on in here RM Dole 19 no Scotch how about a Shirley Temple o’

Neil hey you step up and when you want to rip the old Forester barrel prooof with me at 133 step on up and we’ll we’ll have a convers just for an hour and just see if you don’t walk out of that hour a bit altered all right bit altered you know

What I’m saying like I don’t want to do that because that’s kind of frat broy but you know sometimes you got to put some respect on my name right right you start talking about zema and Shirley temples and stuff like we’re talking Barrel prooof Now ladies and gentlemen Z’s Zea’s

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March 26 to all those that celebrate we have one here in particular that celebrates Yeah March 26 as he should as he should absolutely uh wward sports.com chat thread real Cream of Wheat I drink Scotch all the time I got plenty of bad memory see that’s what I’m tell that

Sounds you see what I’m saying kg like weather experienced calloused been through some is my life’s been too easy to to drink Scotch I guess you could say I understand you might get there one day though right I mean hey got I got kids you you just not getting the glasses you

Know so you you one step closer shut up kg I didn’t ask no one asked you to talk K e’s in the chat speaking about Long Islands and dmac you and I were talking easy Long Islands are what I call a mass transportation let’s get there

Quick pile it in Slam a few of those and let’s go yeah absolutely you that’s like if you want to covertly you know walk up and do like four shots right you don’t want people to see you just shots he spny just couple long I mean back in the day that’s like

That jungle juice dude down at Clear Water the the the big rum drinks it’s like 10 bucks but it gives you a bucket of rum you ain’t lived until you had black people Jungle Juice we we do it well I’ll say that so what’s the components it’s I I can’t tell you it’s

It’s a mixture though yeah just a lot of Boos dark and light mixed so we used to Hennessy in there oh yeah hey we used to you’re like offended that I asked you guys ever do fire Brew monster Brew we used to do this monster brew and the

Base is beer but then you just add like five different Liquors and and then you add like a a uh juice component to it whatever yeah very that used to be our our jugs out in the field for the parties field parties and stuff growing

Up like this yeah monster Brew it was I liked it art says the happy hour $1 Long Islands got banned at om Al and East Lancing when I was there they did can you confirm yeah I can confirm were you responsible you’re only allowed no I was not responsible but you’re only allowed

Uh two Long Islands per customer at Peanut Barrel cuz they make them extra extra strong but in uh at the riv shout out the riv for Rama there is a $5 Long Island pictures and that’s what you do it’s a $2 beer pictures $5 Long Island

Pictures and you get three of those and we’re going oh yeah it’s you walk in there 20 bucks you put it on the table you’re good and then you get thunder struck because that’s where you do thunder struck and if if you get thunder struck with the Long Island o you’re in

For a good night that’s what you line up for you see a line of students every uh Thursday or every Saturday outside of that bar starting at 5:00 a.m. lining up waiting for it cuz R’s a good time like I said you got $20 you walk in there that’s 10

Pictures of beer yeah not a bad be sure to tip your Serv and great burgers Burger burgerama burgerama Taco Rama Great times uh Jacob Scotch puts that hair on your chest yes yes it does yes it does no absolutely it does uh someone asked about the cam Sutton stuff um I

Mean dude that’s isn’t that wild though yeah Spenny can you bring me up to speed on that like where we what is the latest now we understand that he was at the facil the LI learned that there was a warrant for his arrest when he was at

The facility he was at the facility yeah when the warrant Wednesday got released which is still wild to me it’s like throwback Thursday warrant Wednesday you know I guess they just do it different in Florida have you had a warrant Wednesday I’ve never had a warrant you

Never got a warrant out Wednesday I’ve never had a warrant out that I know of that I know I was going to say I might have some unpaid parking tickets so maybe they maybe they had me there but no uh there was when the warrant Wednesday was released he was at the

Practice facility he spoke with someone I’m not sure who it was but they advised him to turn himself in and then I heard it was R wood no I don’t think it was Rob I don’t think he spoke with Rob wood about it but uh the Lion’s people were

Like hey bro like get your get your lawyer together and turn yourself in then he pieced out right it makes sense now even more of why they released him because there was some sort of contact or the fact that you know he could have made that wasn’t I know that we were

Talking over over the weekend waiting to hear something is that like was he still alive right you know yeah there was that discuss to and you know like that that’s the one thing that even questioned to the fact but the fact that comes out that he that he was there which you know

Makes sense you know they gotta they it’s that’s you know even more serious because he hasn’t he had the opportunity so it shines more light on the situation I guess yeah and again I always go back to this too where I have a longstanding kind of statement with NFL football

Players when when stuff like this and I don’t know the details you don’t know the details the only people that know the details right now are cam is Cam ston and and those affected by by what’s going on I always stand by this for me I

Kind of wait to to pass judgment on things because when you play professional sports in general obviously I’ve talked it’s dmac you’re a crazy ass every time you step out on that ice and he says yes I am but NFL football players I just I push back against the

Cycle of how we kind of entertain us then we crumble you up and kind of to throw you away and maybe I’m being a little bit romantic with that but the mental I don’t think that people fully understand the mental space you have to go into to step over that line yeah when

You step over that line and it’s 1:00 on Sunday or whatever time it’s time to go they go to a place that you and I cannot even imagine mentally it is it is Mortal Kombat what they do and I know they say you’re not it’s it’s a It’s War like

That’s that they say well no it’s not real no it is that what they do is real war out there make no mistake about that because they don’t know when it’s coming to an end and they’re trying to survive that football game and win that football

Game we have no concept of the place they have to go to mentally and dmac you’ve seen it you’ve seen it with guys that when you step across that line you go to a different place you just do yeah you have to and and that’s you know the

Hope is that there’s a there’s a balance of on and off and stuff like this and unfortunately we’ve seen so many times that that this isn’t you know the first situation so um but I think it you know with mental health and all this other stuff being talked about more that

Hopefully that these situations uh become less and less that’s that’s all you can hope for we learn from him so have more compassion but you know that’s that’s professional sports what have you done for me lately yeah yeah no doubt so it is it’s it’s tough to see it’s tough

To hear and um isn’t this a little more scary now seeing that he was at the facility and kind of just said F this I’m out like it’ be different if he was already like the team tried to reach him he was already missing but he he pretty

Much knew he was throwing his his NFL career in in the toilet by by just dipping so I don’t I don’t understand like you know I don’t understand either because there’s no better time than insulated with the support of the organization like right there yeah to be

Able to get your side out or whatever come to whatever agreement the fact that it was there so uh again we just got to wait till everything plays out as he has he turned himself in yet no sir no’s on a plane with and and this is be

You know obviously like this is circumvented Beyond football this is about you know human right you know the human being so no it is it’s just I don’t I don’t like what I’m seeing on and you’re never going to like what you see on social media I just I don’t like

It’s nasty yeah like when you’re when you’re diagnose what’s going on like we we see that with the bridge collapse today all of a sudden everybody’s a syil engineer on on social media you know well this happened and that happened with the I don’t know I I have no idea

What happened you have no idea what happened like so just stop being a clown and putting your thoughts out there cuz guess what nobody cares what you think anyway exactly everybody wants to be a funny man too you know everybody’s the first one to make J there’s a time for

That there’s a time for that like the like Jack gki even said it like the the memes were had him rolling had the team rolling and stuff like that and it’s funny right like Jack can laugh at it it was funny but like stuff like the cam

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Drive all right back here on a Tuesday everybody and um yes we uh my apologies we got Roland in the show and we did a Overlook rest in peace Tuesday so how about this you want it cuz no we we here’s we do top five tomorrow we got to do top five

Tomorrow what is the top five tomorrow and that’s what I was just going to discuss so usually if we miss it on Tuesday we do it on Thursday all right rest in peace Thursday yep is that acceptable that works all right motion motion heard motion seconded rest in

Peace Thursday we’ll get it back on track everyone tomorrow top five Wednesday we did um we did top five disappointments I to remove that one from the should we do something baseballwise cuz isn’t it opening days on top five ballpark Foods boom there you go it’s on the list yeah I I agree

With you top five ballpark Foods top five ballpark Foods yeah cuz opening day is Thursday right yes now before I send the list and you guys start busting balls um the Cuban sandwich I have when I go to Marlin’s Park slaps does that count course that’s so Elite yeah yeah I mean

Yeah yeah you if you’ve had it at a ball perk that even nobody what count it counts if you had it yeah I mean not my fault you guys don’t travel and you sandes are overrated expand it’s just a ham and mustard with pickles no it’s a muetta that’s

Made it wishes it could be muetta it’s a Cuban muetta it’s just a ham sandwich like a muetta no yes nope yes it is not a chance uh Brendan Dillinger Marlins Park lone Depot Park whatever they call it now yes uh when I go down there for work if I

Have off days I will go to a Marlins game yeah so what’s wrong with that I don’t anything wrong with that they have a nice part yeah I’m sad they took away the pool yeah and the bar so the pool is non-existent so what do they they just

Have it for show now well they had like a nightclub out there they had a DJ in there and it was pretty dope I went back there with the Clevelander one time it was pretty cool I’m not going to lie hell yeah um but yeah they they they took away the swimming

Pool so that so that was uh that was Grim but yeah tomorrow top five ballpark Foods I like that pretty good call Tiger start on what Thursday right Thursday Y in Chicago in Chicago it came fast man maybe it was the lion season yeah big pause but maybe it was the lion season

But it definitely uh baseball season came around very quick this year so I know and and we’ll we’ll discuss it but I am concerned by one thing I know we all want to talk red Joey Wentz made the opening day roster you just looking for reasons at

This point yeah for real he’s your long relief guy he’s your your starter gets shelled and you need somebody to eat four Innings you put him out there but I was told that’s not going to happen because we have an elite pitching that never happen to anybody if they have

Good pitchers nobody will ever have a b right like like come on man so you’re keeping Joey Wentz on there for eight games this year for yeah for long relief everybody has a long relief guy so you don’t have to eat up every sing the game

Is real long when Joey Wentz comes into pitch you’re just looking for home runs are hit really long when Joey Wentz comes into grabbing that straws Neil so so lock in Joey Wentz you’ve taken him on your fantasy team bro listen listen he’s like he said he’s long relief everybody needs a relever

It’s not going to be perfect but hey it is what it is I just want to see product on the field that’s fine I’m not making pregame you know if he starts a game I’m going to be pissed unless there some injuries he’s not going to start a game

I’ll be pissed at you guys if he starts a game I’ll be pissed he’s definitely not and they got Matt Manning in Triple A if worst case scenario they bring him up yeah if Joey went starts a game he’s not going to start so help me God on

Both of you I just need you on board man I am on board I don’t think you are I’m on every year he’s not on board you’re very hes looking for a way out and listen your reasons are valid I’m not going to say they aren’t well then which

Is it K but listen you can give them a chance at the same time I do give them a chance I just don’t believe that it’s going to happen but I I told D Darren mccardy earlier today I told him 10 years I told him the second day we ever

Did talk radio together I didn’t believe they were going to do it either and they did it so there you go I almost want to test your faith are the Tigers going to be above 500 at the end of April I don’t think so I don’t think so there it is there it

Is people exhibit one it’s a two many leg parlay that has to hit we’ll get there we will we will Danny G Neil’s on the fence yeah to say the least yes I’m on the fence do I I don’t think it’s crazy to be on the fence yeah and I’m not saying having

Blind Faith Like I said your points are valid but I I just feel like this is a younger team you need to give them at least a chance if they can stay healthy we feel like good things should result from that so right but I don’t believe

That that will be the case yeah but that’s that’s their biggest problem is Health right everything else seems to be there so I mean there’s worse situations you can be in if very everybody stays relatively healthy the team should go somewhere right all right let’s do this

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Shack all right final segment of the show dmac Red Wings capitals tonight oh boy I I do feel good about it and here’s why dmac because I look for Clues right and you know where I’m going with this well talk no talk to me I’m excited

But the line it’s pretty much dead even capitals minus 115 Red Wings minus 105 it’s a coin flip mhm pick them it’s a coin flip dmac going on the road with the way the wings have been playing and they’re a coin flip H kind of tell they’re begging you

To take Washington tonight begging is that what they’re doing they’re begging you right I like that I like it when they beg because you go the opposite way 5% of the time you’re right they’re begging you dmac what do they got to do man

Like what do they got to do you got to have this tonight and I look they’re not they’re not if they lose they’re not dead no no no no but dot dot dot right but dot dot dot right so I mean like it’s so cliche and stuff like this but

It’s their start it’s their start can they get you know maybe power play earlier get that first goal because that they have to play from ahead especially Washington’s been on fire and you look at the way their team’s made up is they’ve been grinding their way down

Yeah you got Obie and stuff and you just got TJ ooshi back and different things like that but you need O’s on one right and he’s heated up because he was off one remember he was like OB he’s only got 20 go boom now he’s got 28 right

Like way to go Neil way to bring it up you know so we need him to be quiet tonight which um so number one is you got to have that playoff goal tending you need you know and and I expect after the way he played last game or they went

With L uh Lion on the road losing one nothing as you might see him again yeah but uh I don’t care how they get it done and I know you said earlier in a program about uh win and regulation yes that is the optimal thing but the the bottom

Line even if they do win in uh the extra frame they just have to win right we’re not their last few games of the season yet so so just two points and if they get one okay we’ll deal deal with it we’re tied yeah I that’s what I was

Going to ask two questions uh is the overtime Point acceptable in in this case and Neil are you willing to risk a get right on this game I can’t good conscious do that I feel you I can’t I can’t good conscious do that and it wasn’t see we all knew

That because it didn’t but he’s just giving you the uh there’s a clue there though yeah I I would tell you this if you said Neil you have to deliver a git right I think I think I would take the Red Wings I would say that the line the

Line gives me hope yeah and we’ve talked about that before the line gives me hope because I feel like they’re be because why even up why would you not take Washington for real why yeah give me the case why you would take the Red Wings in

This game dud I mean it’s the same thing logically if right if it was the way that they’re playing I mean you you every the nation if you’re not a Wings fan has to be thinking washing it all day today don’t they that’s what the the

Betters are on But Wings have what 10 games left right boy they D dmac they got to have it man no must win no overtime Point must win they can’t they can’t lose ground let me say it like that they can’t lose ground tonight they can’t cuz

Capitals have a game in hand man yeah and you still got to go they’re still going to Carolina Tampa and Florida or Carolina Florida and Tampa tough stretch you know what I’m saying that’s a third third of their games that they have left that’s their

Lifeblood so you got you got to you got to gain ground tonight you have to you have to tonight I haven’t peeped the somebody earlier said that the capital schedule is tough too I haven’t I haven’t taken a look at it um but but I do because it can’t be

Tougher than the wing schedule is uh where are they rolling out to so uh they have us tonight they’re at Toronto home verse Boston at Buffalo home vers Pittsburgh at Carolina home verse Ottawa at Detroit at Buffalo verse Tampa verse Boston at Philadelphia their tough games are

Pretty much all at home though I like it’s a lot of a lot of Boston lot of Toronto lot of Toronto and Boston in there I like that I do too but you know even uh Philly Philly’s a good team too we’re you know what though we’re getting down time to with

Toronto it’s about time for them to start rounding into form and you know what I mean no that’s when the Playoff starts we need them to beat the I know but if you low-key notice they kind of they show signs of that yeah as as it comes down the stretch like the

Cowboys absolutely you you are what you are so huge huge game tonight dmac I’m going to be locked in I’m not going to lie to you like I’m altering the calendar you’re a Wings fan of stuff like this and by the way Mo Sider shout

Out to you don’t mess with Big Mo beat throw a right beat the dog [ __ ] out of him and and that’s he doesn’t have to fight anybody else but you fight guys like forsberg guys that you’re G to be battling the stars of the other team

You’re most cider has a green light to grab any any Philip forsberg any forsberg any guy of that level ilk that plays the same as as important that’s what you want right like I’d also like to see him take a rip out of Jamie Ben

That’ be he might be the guy to do it but dude the way that he switched hands and the way that like he was mad don’t make the big guy mad and uh props to moider but we don’t need you doing that um only against those guys mhm tune in

Tonight Go Wings happy Turtle day everybody all right for dmac for kg and of course Spencer raxter as well omil Ru thanks for tapping in Big D Energy wward Sports Network well see you later

5 Comments

  1. No one talks about him enough…. Lalonde, Lalonde do your job better than ever tonight, motivate, innovate, win win win. This is the night.

  2. If Flannel watched the Wings in the 95 and 96 seasons as the favorite to win the cup. Until NJ and Colorado beat them by being the more physical team. Once they had Shanahan, Kocur, Lapointe, and McCarty in the lineup they could play that style.

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