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Hey guys what’s up welcome back to today’s edition of intuitive angling and really appreciate you guys making some time out of your day to spend with me and watch the video always very grateful for that and guys today I’m going to be talking about a post that Gerald Swindle
Made on his Facebook page yesterday I believe it was um he was uh alluding basically talking a little bit about the uh influence of forward facing sonar in the tournaments I thought it was a very profound uh post that he made so we’re going to discuss that sort of going to
Give you my opinion of it in today’s video I’m also guys real quick just wanted to give everybody a big thank you that’s been uh subscribing here at intuitive angling and using my links in the description especially uh to order your tackle through Tackle Warehouse
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You guys have followed the uh Channel much you know that Gerald and I have had sort of a contentious year sort of badmouthing each other on various platforms for a couple different reasons and um you know I I sort of understand that Gerald’s passionate he’s outspoken
I’m the same way I’m sort of pass passionate and outspoken and sometimes that’s a byproduct that you sometimes say things that could have been framed in a different light but on the other hand you know I respect Gerald for uh you know voicing his opinion out there
Because there’s not a whole lot of guys that do that in the professional Fishing World um what he did guys is um he had that he made a post yesterday and he was talking he was making a post from Lake Fork you know today was the first day of
The Lake Fork bassm Elite Series and by the way my prediction was a my prediction yesterday was correct correct a live scopers leading the tournament with a mega bag down there probably everybody in the top 50 is Liv scoping down there and everybody that’s in the
Bottom 50 probably fish in the bank so that’s another story but anyway he made this post from practice down at Lake Fork and he was basically alluding to the fact in the post of um the reality of we find oursel in with forward facing sonar about what it’s done to the uh
Aesthetics of the sport now if you guys have followed much of my uh you know my rants here on Ford facing sonar over the past two years a big part of it is I’m talking about what it’s doing to the tradition and the intrinsic value and
The magic and the Wonderman and all the all the things in the sport of bass fishing that we have that that we consider the norms and traditions and sort of like the uh The Standard Bearing uh you know aspect of it and Gerald was talking about how and a lot of Pros feel
Like this and like I said I’m I’m not speaking for him I’m speculating a lot of this but he was talking in the uh video that you know he realizes in the the world of forward facing sonar you’ve got to use it but you can also tell in
The post and I’ll link his post in the description of the video if you guys want to read it yourself but he was basically alluding to the fact that he feels you got to use forward facing sonar but at the same time he’s toring because he’s a traditional bass angler
He’s made his name he’s made his Fame he’s won his angler of the years and all that type of stuff through traditional real bass fishing means and you can tell almost a sort of like a a resignation or a frustration in his voice that he’s been forced into this but he doesn’t
Really want to be in this and again I’m speculating about Gerald’s Viewpoint here but I can tell you right now guys Anglers like Gerald Swindle are the ones getting hurt by forward facing sonar You’ got Hammers and Gerald Swindle is a hammer for sure there’s a bunch of guys
Out there that have been fishing for a long time like him that this forward- facing sonar is destroying their career simply because they have so much knowledge and information about how to bass fish real how real bass fishing has done that you can’t just discard that
You can’t just get rid of it all of a sudden and and start fishing like these 25 year olds that don’t have any experience in bass fishing other than knowing how to read a video game that’s all it is so it’s like I think if you would take a poll
Amongst you know 80% of the El series Anglers out there and if it was an anonymous poll where you just say should we ban Ford facing sonar or not I I believe truly that over 80% of the Elite Series Anglers would say ban Ford facing sonar because they’re forced into it
Just like J I feel you can tell by the post that Gerald feels he’s forced into this having to use this to compete and it’s it’s a incredible dilemma it really is it’s frustrating it’s hard to take but anyway back to the post what he was talking about he he’s talking about
Forward- facing sonar and being out in the middle of the lake has taken away so much of what I call the intrinsic value of fishing he’s talking about you know things that you see while you’re fishing along the bank people you meet people you see on boow dos that connection with
The sport of bass fishing on an intimate level that only comes from fishing traditional bass fishing techniques fishing shallow being connected close to the fish you know when you’re fishing for Target fish a lot of times you’re 10 ft away from those fish you’ve got to be stealthy it’s just a completely
Different world it’s like a you’ve got to be a true stalker Hunter to fish traditional bass fishing means that don’t require any of that with forward- facing sonar technology so when we talk about when we have this discussion about forward- facing sonar so many people that are proponents of it the only thing
That they focus on is that you know it’s this is the way of the future get with it or get left behind uh you’re just too stupid to know how to use this technology Grandpa they focus on the things that don’t make any difference this is not what we’re talking about
That’s why I always say that the um pro- forward- facing sonar Community out there which is the minority by the way they that what we’re talking about what Gerald’s talking about in that post or what Gerald’s alluding to in that post and what I talk about all the time on
This V on my on my Channel about it is that the important part of it the the the tradition the Heritage the the all that natural intrinsic value the mystery and the magic and that connection that is intertwined with real bass fishing that is gone out the window and that is
What is value to it because if you look at every sport out there there’s not a single legitimate professional sport in the world that doesn’t understand the the importance of tradition and having a baseline for what that competition stays at except professional bass fishing bass professional bass fishing throws that
Out the window I mean if you if you look in any other sport in the world I don’t care if it’s football basketball or baseball they could if if they adopted the technology that would be available to them to basically improve their performance it would be unrecognizable
As far as what those sports are but they have they understand the tradition that needs to be maintained which people like the the management of Bassmaster and the management of f MLF they either don’t understand it or they don’t give a crap one of the two again it all boils down
To money you know I’ve I’ve made this statement and I’ll make it over and over again forward-facing sonar is only here because of money that is it that is why you saw the Alabama Rig get banned there wasn’t any money in the Alabama rig so Bassmaster and MLF they they didn’t have
They don’t there was no incentive for them to ban I mean there was no incentive for them to allow the Alabama Rig to maintain you know the the uh controversy there was a big division in it in fact there was a there was more of an equal split with Alabama Rig than
There is before T facing sonar because there was no money in it that’s the only reason forward facing sonar were having to deal with this crap take a look at the Lake Fork I just like I said I refuse to watch the videos I’m just you
Know I check in with the weights and I’ll check in whatever Clips come across my social media feed you are seeing these um abnormal high weights come in through forward- facing sonar that are accessing that population of fish that has been protected forever those fish that that dude that
Caught the Japanese angler that caught 39 lbs today and all everybody else that caught 30 lb those fish need to be protected they need that water out there where they can get out there and live undisturbed that is you don’t want to mess with that you don’t need to know
Everything what’s going on a lake everybody says oh forward facing sonar is so great because we’re learning so much about the bass you don’t need to know that that is that is part of the mystery and the magic that forward facing sonar robs from us that’s what it
Does once you take out that mystery and the magic and all that intrinsic value that we’re talking about you diminish and you degrade and you disrespect the value of bass fishing now I understand that there’s 20% of the audience out there where this goes completely over their
Head they they they they don’t have the mental capacity to understand what I’m talking about here they really don’t because I’ve had discussions with this and it’s just goes in in one air and out the other but the majority of the people do the majority of the people can
Understand what that healing therapeutic aspect is the fishing and I believe that like Gerald Swindle can too Gerald Swindle made a a everything he pointed out in this post that you need to read he’s talking about the things that make bass fishing special from a traditional standpoint and there’s no reason that we
Had to break away from that there’s not at all everybody says oh this is the new way of fishing the old ways don’t work anymore that’s a bunch of because the only reason old ways cannot compete with spotlighting for bass is because Bassmaster and MLF allowed to be
Legal that’s the only reason they could stop all of it do you realize tomorrow guys that they could stop this in midseason they could say guys starting at the next tournament the next Bassmaster Elite Series tournament forward- facing sonar will not be allowed in Bassmaster events they could
Stop it immediately and they could maintain that mystery the magic the intrinsic value all that stuff that’s been precious to this sport for people that have been in it and I really feel sorry for the crowd out there under 25 all you dudes out there that are high school
College Anglers under 25 years old I really feel sorry for the state that the sport is in because you are missing out on the in you are missing out on the most valuable parts of bass fishing out there it’s not the same world you have entered this realm of bass fishing where it’s
Commercialized and it is so far removed from what bass fishing was at the height of bass fishing within the Bassmaster organization in the 80s and early 90s which was the peak years for it ever since then as technology has encroached on the sport of bass fishing it has
Diminished what bass fishing is and the Anglers out there that are young they don’t have anything to relate to to that the only thing they have is what they know and it’s sad it’s a sad reality for them and they have but they’ve been put in a position where there is there is
More financial disparity and there’s more elitism in the sport of bass fishing than ever before because of electronic technology just like Chris Z and TR Zan’s video over there you had all these Bassmaster Elite guys that have 30 40 $50,000 worth of electronics on their boat that has transformed bass
Fishing into an elitist sport that’s what it is it’s more of an elitist sport than golf right now only because of Bassmaster and mlfs management they could put a stop for stop to that but we do not have adults in the room within the management of Bassmaster and MLF
That is all there is to it they are influenced by money and they show it by what they’re doing with this and like I said point is guys is Gerald suddenly made that point he suddenly made the point that I’ve been screaming about for the last two years here so I think
What’s going to happen is people are they’ve already started to wake up they’ve started to wake up after the Toledo B Bassmaster last week they are really going to get a wake up this week at Toledo B because again this is going to be a mega bag spotlighters benefit
Tournament and all the guys out there at Lake Fork right now that are on the bank catching 18 20 pounds of bass and they’re going to finish in 100th place in the tournament that is going to alienate even more and more of them you know I saw Gerald he he was in like
100th place after today or something like that I’m sure he’s frustrated I would be frustrated everyone that caught good bags of fish by traditional real bass fishing means are frustrated when they see those dudes out there catching 35 lbs of bass staring down at a freaking video game all day
So keep we’re going to keep punching man I’m telling you guys like this this is a fight with we’re in here and we’re going to win this fight it’s just a matter of time it’s taken longer than what it should take and anytime that you have money involved money ruins everything
Guys and every any time that you have money where people that have the gold make the rules it takes a long time to to basically transcend that but you can count here on this channel we’re going to keep hammering away at it every freaking week on it so hope you guys can
Join the uh join the the good team here fight the good fight be on the right side of history with me on this deal talk later see you
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Has the likening to drones equipped with thermal imaging been brought up? With the recent advances in technology in this realm, states have stepped in and banned the use of these for deer hunting and even recovery, in some cases. FFS provides the same sort of advantages to anglers that thermal imaging would afford a deer hunter. Any kid that can play a video game could potentially kill record deer consistently if the technology was approved for use. The big question that I'd like to bring up is, would it be better for the sport and conservation of bass fishing if the states would step in and outlaw the use of FFS? Chew on that one for a minute, I'd love to hear your comments.
Spot on again Randy. Just imagine what would happen if someone developed a gyro stabilized golf club that made holes in one commonplace . Pretty sure the PGA would not allow it in tournaments. Unfortunately, it’s all about the money in fishing right now. Hopefully they will wake up before they ruin bass fishing..
FFS Is like spot lighting deer…
FFS is our Fishing Industries "AI", artificial Intelligence era. Sorry, but more to come and it will be more $$$ than ever.
Unfortunately BASS and MLF will never stop it due to huge revenues they get from these big 3 electronic companies. They won't jeopardize that cash cow by banning it. Personally I think tournament bass fishing is stupid anyway.
Bass fishing needs sponsorship money from companies outside of bass fishing. The PGA tour has a lot of sponsorship money coming in from golf equipment and apparel companies but they get a lot more from companies outside the golf industry because there are lots of eyes on golf every week. Golf has a consistent week to week schedule with quality TV coverage. Bassmaster and MLF are too sporadic and the coverage for viewers has always been lackluster and with FFS is less entertaining than ever. The organizers of these events have an opportunity to make tons more money than they are but they are too lazy and or stupid to adapt and figure things out.
Wrong Gerald just wants to take out people that are better than him, Period ! Stop crying
It's even worse for local level derbys. Some great anglers can't afford it as they have other responsibilities outside of weekend derbies. It is an unfair advantage to those who don't have it. At least on the pro level they all have the opportunity TO have it.
To sum up sonar, it’s the exact same as a player using cheats in a video game. It should be banned.
You were right bud
Ban off shore fishing. Your just a genious.
You guys are a bunch of whiners,either get with the program or retire because if you or swindle are such hammers than there should be no problem just a bunch of crybabies
Band it !!!! It’s always about money sad.
You need to get out of bass fishing you weren’t great when in your prime and you aren’t even good now I have never heard such petty bull
Swindle the man with a million 1 liners and 0 elite series wins.
Well put , thanks for sharing
If you don't like it, don't use it. You do you, and everybody else do what they do. If you want to go back to dragging your canoe with your horse and buggy and fishing with a cane pole, in a 1824 traditional real bass fishing means, more power to you. But for me, I'm not Amish and I'll embrace the comforts and technologies of a 2024 "traditional bass fishing means". If you want to compete, you'll have to stop all the whining and belly aching and embrace the times and the comforts and luxuries the Lord has bestowed upon us. Quit bitching and be grateful and thankful. Then get of your ass and go fishing some place in this greatest country on God's green earth.
randy i want you to understand that FFS has also help people find there love ones that drowned in the rivers and lakes
also randy i would also like to say that bass fishing has gone to crap becouse its is all about money who has the better boat and equintemnt on there boats i could make a big live video and talk about everything that is good or bad about bass fishing
FFS is real fishing too. It takes skill and know how to understand what is happening and how to catch ‘em. You might have to be of average intelligence to see it. I think you might be hurting fishing by posting how to videos spoon feeding everyone and robbing them of doing their own learning on the water with time and sweat. You tube is technology too. My 10 yr old doesn’t have FFS but will smoke most men from the bank because all y’all tubers have educated everyone and now even the kids are hammers. You did this too! Don’t cry now.
They don’t care about the fish it’s all about the money I quit fishing because of this way of fishing
Too many Karen’s on the water these days thinking they own the lake! Same for public hunting….. full of Karen’s. lol.
Ban Ffs griping, go play golf!
Well stated, Randy. I view this discussion in the same light I view political discussions – a Biden voter will never agree with a Trump supporter regardless of how well you state your point. When you talk about MLB. NFL. NBA and other sports you state facts and prove that other sports step in to maintain the integrity/authenticity of the sport and keep their goal of putting the best product on the field that their fans/audience will enjoy. Another great point – why ban the A-rig but then allow underwater cameras? To those who say "FFS won't catch the fish for you – you still need to find them", the exact same thing can be said about the A-rig, and yet it's illegal/banned. I stopped watching all pro tournaments because they are not entertaining to me, anymore (unless they put the cameras in G-man's boat or others like him). I wish you the best, Randy, and hope you continue to fight the good fight…
Absolutely hilarious to say 25 year olds have no experience bass fishing. The last decade every few years a new prodigy young gun came up. So what now you will discredit them all? No one discredited palinuik jlee etc
Oh yeah, we should only catch em when they’re on the bank. Randy’s gone full gonzo
A true steward of the sport wouldn't want to decimate the bass population.
It's all about $.The sport comes second. The bass comes third…
They fish during the spawn and pull hens from their nesting areas and relocate them miles away at the most critical time resulting in lower hatch rates.
Enter 8k FFS setups, again, It's all about
$ and selling product.
The integrity of the sport pays the price.
Young guys do not understand this.
Fishing used to be affordable for the average Joe, that's what grew the sport.
Anyone have 8k laying around for an electronic upgrade?
Check back in 5 years from now and let's see how many of these young guns are still around if they ban FFS (like they should in all circuits).
The old guard knows what is coming in regards to the damage this will do to the sport. Listen to what they have to say or watch it all come tumbling down.
Absolutely agree with all you stated regarding FF Sonar! During last week's Lake Fork tournament I posted on FB similar comments as you. Dang, what a can of worms I opened! Extremely controversial subject. One of my concerns: is that dozens of 30 pound bags (hundreds of fat spawning females) just can't be good for an outstanding fishery! I doubt that this would have been the case had FF Sonar not been utilized by so many contestants. You are so right in stating FF sonar puts new comers on top without years of hard work and experience. As I stated it's about the spirit of the game not simply catching!
I'm a new fan if BASS. Really enjoyed the last 2 tournaments and not against the tech. You still gotta catch fish. Tech only gets you so far
Change with the times or get left behind.
It's really this simple everyone. Instead of everyone whining about FFS and canceling it how about some of these pro's ban together and create a non FFS tournament trail. Apparently there's plenty of guys who can't stand it. Find enough sponsors( clearly not Lowrance, Humminbird, or Garmin) to put this together. They can put their money where their mouth is. If you believe in something so strongly stop crying about it and make a change. All of this whining is pathetic. Either learn how to use it and compete or move on. It's not going anywhere on any professional trail in the near future. There is way to much money from the power players in sponsorships.
I tried live scope the other day. I couldn't believe the amount of bedding fish I could detect in 4' or less from ten foot on the edge of lilly pads on lake Seminole. I went back at night with a spot light and verified the beds. It was amazing how accurate it was.
You’re insufferable
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Pick up your panties and stop crying.
Unfortunately this generation will be building BASS for years to come so the old pros will have to start using it to compete or just retire. FFS IS not going anywhere EVER
One person looking down at their screen with FFS is no different then one person looking down at their rod tip, 2D or a tree while fishing without it
It's a hobby ,not a sport for me.
I really like what I heard on your video. The best is the analogy between spot lighting deer and forward looking sonar. I totally agree that 90% of todays bass anglers are so desperate to be better than Bill Dance, Roland Martin and Rick Clun just to name a view of the great anglers they have jumped on the forward facing sonar because it is no doubt taken a lot out of the sport and turned it into a video game which by the way they grew up playing. Sports are not video games but tests of your knowledge and ability to put this together.
AGREED SIR,,,,PLEASE KEEP THE FIGHT,,,IM WITH YA
great video
while I agree with your views about traditional bass fishing and earning your stripes by hours on the water rather than buying the best FFS, I also think those newly found populations that are being caught is going to diminish every lakes stock eventually. Technology seems great at first but it will be the downfall of so many different areas. not just bass fishing.
I do agree on this point it will hurt it self as time goes on. Anglers will stop showing up if they fell they don't have a chance.
I don't get the need for any sonar. I love bass fishing and have caught and released some really great bass simply by looking at areas that i think bass would be in and by seeing where shad are breaking at. No electronics whatsoever. It is a recreation, not a "sport". Tournaments have always been a dick measuring contest anyway and have bastardized something that had always been peaceful and a way to get away from the bullshit of the work week. I'd much rather watch Bill Dance than any tournament. The fact that these "pros" use that much technology now is laughable and says pretty much all you need to know about the "skill" involved.
FFS should not be in the tournament format. Period.
It's turning fishing into a competition or a job that really takes the magic of if it.
Not to mention the connection with God that is lost when staring at a screen and disconnecting from the wonder of creation.
How about starting independent clubs and tournaments with old school rules without electronics, giving the average week end warriors an equal shot?