Topic
Baker Mayfield has been traded to the Carolina Panthers for a 5th round conditional pick. Who should start at QB, Baker or Sam Darnold? Who’s better?
Who would you rather topic
Baker Mayfield or Justin Fields, Jarod Goff, Marcus Marriota, Jameis Winston, Carson Wentz, Drew Lock, Ryan Tannehill
Which Free Agent Player still remaining is more enticing to sign?
Offensive: WR-Odell Beckham, WR-Will Fuller, OT-Eric Fisher, WR-Julio Jones,
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Welcome to another episode of football tators where we talk everything about the NFL including your picks for bets and fantasy today’s episode as usual I have here with me yams the Tex and jets fan and the bias football fan and myself Aaron the Cowboys fan um I wanted to
Start off today with something I saw earlier on Twitter uh actually I don’t know if you guys saw it but it came out that you know according to this article was like nine hours ago but you know it was today um Von Miller said he he would
Have taken less to join the Cowboys before signing a massive deal with the bills um now to be uh to like further explain that is you know I was reading here that according to the uh report for or from the athletic sorry the Cowboys offered the same deal they offered
Gregory a 5year 7 million $70 million contract with two years guaranteed uh to Miller who also had an offer on the table from the LA Rams Miller told the athletic that that had Dallas uh that had Dallas’s offer been close to what Buffalo was bringing to the table would have agreed
To a lesser deal to join his hometown team and then he said Von Miller says I told them I was ready to come to the Cowboys uh I would have taken less to go to Dallas because it’s Dallas but I wouldn’t take that much less so kind of
Upset about that no well maybe they’re looking that they have already Vander van vand vanderesh I’m sorry vanderesh and Mah Parsons and Micah Parsons as linebackers and we’re like we’re okay at that point because they’re also they don’t have like so much money to like just give away so they were providing of
How much maybe they thought of an it’s an upgrade from Rand Randy Gregory even though Randy Gregory was a defensive end but I mean you can play around and put Von Miller in different positions but maybe they just felt like they were comfortable with what they have I’m not
Saying if that’s a good thing uh a smart choice or a bad choice but I think that might be the the reason why they just didn’t offer more yeah the thing is I I would think they would you know I don’t I don’t think they’re focusing on their
Secondary that much as well like Trayvon Diggs is an amazing player but he’s such a gamble but there’s no there’s no like what we had before with Byron Jones um I it it just doesn’t seem like the secondary can be as effective and where the eyes are going to right
Now is you know the linebackers and and the defensive line I would think they would invest in that at least a little bit like at least try to offer them more than what they offered which was like you know the 7 million um that that’s just my opinion
Because the defense right now is kind of the highlight and the offense is losing its highlight like there’s not it’s it’s not what it was like a couple years ago it’s just different now and it and it seems to me at least from what we saw last season it shifted over to the
Defense being you know the star of Michael Parsons and you know he’s pretty versatile as it is so I think it would have been perfect to have V Miller I think if they would have I I think I I would have taken the gamble seems like it’s the same thing either it’s the
Offense is doing well and the defense is doing bad or the defense does well and the offense does bad it’s like the same thing over and over again so there’s never like a good balance no no because they they don’t know how to do it there’s
Just it’s so unusual what goes on there like you just you’re just like what what are they doing like what like what what did they do this offseason nothing right nothing significant at least and we’ll talk about you know the free agent still available uh later on in this podcast
But that was just a little bit of that uh I don’t know if you have anything to say yams about that no all right cool all right so anyway what have could have should have I mean they lost they lost their chance I guess is what it is um so we’re going
To talk about Baker Mayfield again you know very big news that he got traded to the Panthers I I thought he was going to go to the Panthers and also it to point out the Seattle uh it was reported that Seattle had no interest in them which I think
Was very very smart of them to do um but anyways you know he’s been traded to the Panthers Carolina Panthers for a fifth round conditional pick and if he if he plays what is it 70% of the snaps More than 70% it turns into a fourth
Round I’m not too 100% sure um it was something along those lines yeah probably just like how the Carson Wentz deal happened with Indianapolis Colts before it to be turned into a first round pick MH and for the eagles which it did work I do know 100% that it’s
It’s based on how many snaps he plays so it goes by percentage of it so I think if he surpasses uh a certain a percentage of snaps played uh turns into a fourth round pick which is like okay whatever um but you know we’re going to ask the
Question here who should start at QB you know with Sam darnold there too uh it’s going to be kind of conflicting I’ve been hearing kind of mixed things in the media um and then we’re also going to ask who’s better so you guys can go
Ahead and answer both at the same time I I think you guys know my answer now we go ahead and say it and and please elaborate okay uh well I’ve always said from the very beginning I believe in Sam darnold I think he is a good quarterback I think he’s also
Better than Baker Mayfield but it’s also very close the talent is very close what I think happened and then the closest thing I can think of when I when I think of the situation with Baker Mayfield is if you’re shopping for a new TV set right
And you go into a store and you see a a brand that’s maybe Samsung but you also see a different brand that’s not a Samsung it’s not a great brand like westing house like the westing house correct so and then you see the store reviews and it’s says great value for the
Price that’s what happened with Baker Mayfield practically Browns just wanted to get rid of him we’ll play half the salary and for car Carolina um Panthers it was oh no brainer let’s say go ahead and take the you know the chance and let’s see if it works out I
Think Carolina is a mess Matt Ru is not the answer we saw last year how he brought in Cam Newton it was a pure mess he was going in from P um Cam Newton Sam darnold to PJ Walker maybe the guy doesn’t know how to see how to work with quarterbacks but
So Sam darnold is better I predict Sam darnold gets the start because he already has the Playbook he already has a head start over Baker Mayfield So I mean again it’s really close on their talent you can’t compare you can’t compare the talent level that surrounded Baker Mayfield the
Way it did with Sam darnold as they were both coming up in the NFL they both struggled to make decision make um the wrong decisions and that’s what gets them in trouble in games so they need to both both need to learn how to be a game
Manager versus trying to take the whole game and figure it out no I I really think that you can compare both of them I know I do understand in Tam Darnell’s situation that he had a a worse a worse start in the Jets because of Adam gase
And and having like so many different he didn’t have a a quarterback’s coach and just Baker Mayfield had a lot with for him he had um he had Odell Beckham he had chub he had Kareem hunt um Landry so I do understand that but when you how
Long okay but the reason of why I’m going to tell you that you can compare them is because you can right away know when you have like an like a franchise type of quarterback um you’ve seen it with like they just they just start and right off
The page you’re like surprised and I can tell you even though these quarterbacks have better like players around them um Herbert right off the start you can see that guy’s a winner uh Joe burrow just went to the Super Bowl so those are those are just players
That just run of they just jump off the page and just you can just Clearly say that those are franchise quarterbacks then you have another like tier of quarterbacks that they’re okay that they’re that they can play but that doesn’t mean that they are like the
Answer for for to be like the the franchise quarterback for the team so for Matt R I think he has a really good team already established but the only thing that’s missing for him and he’s been struggling is to find the quarterback and this just shows you how
Hard it is to find a quarterback um they had they tried with Cam newu like you said last year they tried with Sam darnold it’s not working they have PJ Walker that is not working even though he did really well in in the XFL right
Of what we saw and um they they drafted mat Carell I mean they’ve seen him play um they’ve seen him play M Carell during the mini camps and it seems like they’re not like super Safi so they’re like heck yeah bring Baker and we just have one of
These guys maybe can hit so he’s playing for his job I’m thinking Matt rule of course yeah and here’s the thing so it’s not a mess it’s not a total mess what they have they they have a team it is a mess how how is it a mess they have a
Team they have a decent defense they have an A a decent offense too they’re they just need a quarterback if they have a really good quarterback they’ll go to the playoffs and probably win some games in the playoffs they have DJ Moore they have Robbie Anderson which You Love
By the way they have one of the best running backs in Christian McCaffrey yes he’s been hurt but I think he’s going to be okay uh this in this season I think he’ll be he’ll be back to his normal self this season their offensive line is all right it’s not horrible and and
Their defense is also pretty good I mean and and then they have I believe um the the quarterback was it horn from last year he got injured now he’s going to be playing so I said you can’t compare Jay horn you can’t compare the two quarterbacks Baker and Sam darnold they
Did not have the same level of talents surrounding them they did he did have Robbie Anderson over there only Robbie Anderson that’s only one you can mention from New York Jets from the time he was playing there give me another one Crowder okay you can you’re going to
Compare Crowder over jar Landry and yes and OD Beckham uh with Landry yes and what about their tight end can you remember their tight end for the New York Jets exactly but you did like the tight end I remember you were you were stoked about the tit end and the pre
Season yeah it just fell flat and Cleveland doesn’t even use her Titan that much even though we all think that joku was is pretty good they didn’t even use him that much they also had Hopper is that his name Hopper or Hooper Hooper Austin Hooper sorry stranger things
Stranger things no um but look if we can go back to the years and let’s just go back to 2018 this is Sam darnold’s first year with actually some level of talent okay compared to the many years in 2018 he had a completion percentage Tam Darnell had a completion percentage of
57.7 per uh percent and then we had a total yards of well I’m just going to skip the yards to I mean if you want to count it’s 2865 touchdowns here has 17 touchdowns and 15 interceptions so almost the same amount of touch touchdowns he had interceptions as 15 Baker Mayfield he
Had a completion percentage of 63.8 3,725 yards 27 touchdowns like a lot more than Sam darnold and in interceptions he had 14 almost the same amount as interceptions but at least at least he did more touchdowns 2019 second year Sam darnold did a little bit better went to 61.9 uh%
Completion 3,24 yards which is like about 200 more yards than the year prior 19 touchdowns which is just two touchdowns more than the year prior and 13 interceptions so his second year was his probably his best year the third year I mean and let me go back to Baker
Baker had 59.4 he actually went a little bit down in percentage uh yards 3827 touchdowns 22 touchdowns and 21 interceptions this was one of Baker’s uh like bad years but at least he was scoring touchdowns giving his offense a chance and you can compare it with Sam darnold that the offense like didn’t
Have that much of a chance and the defense just was just getting exhausted just getting so much exhausted and with and and Sam darnold and for 2020 he had 5 59.6% completion 2,28 yards which was a really low compared to his first and second year only nine touchdowns and
Putting more more interceptions with 11 and he did the exact same thing Sam darnold in 2021 with the Panthers a better team 59.9% per completion 2527 yards nine touchdowns and did again more interceptions and touchdowns with 13 with Baker I mean last year he was hurt and he did better than than darnold
He was hurt and he had a 60.5% completion 3,10 yards 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions more touchdown interceptions you can put that Baker is a is not a lot more skillful but is better than Sam darn does it not tell you something that if he is if the
Numbers are show numbers are always a true story right if the numbers are telling you he is able to do something it’s because the talent around him allows him to do that if he was a better quarterback then he would have been able to excel much better than these numbers I mean these
Are numbers that are pretty close to darnold and darnold had no weapons I’m seeing more touchdowns and interceptions in all of Baker Mayfield’s years and once you have more interceptions and touch them then we have a problem more Talent you could tell me the wide receivers right off the
Bat that started the Browns but you can’t tell me one for the New York Jets I mean I’m still trying to figure out just because of that you can’t just say oh well that’s it what about last year with Carolina that’s a that’s his first year it’s his first year there
What are you counting that as his first year on the NFL I’m counting that the first year with the first time as a with the system yes and he had a bad in a in a Bad season a really bad season I’m not denying that he had a bad season and S
If um Baker goes in and plays this year he’ll have a bad season because that team Matt rule is on the ledge like he’s about to get fired so it’s going to be a circus in my opinion what do you think Kon um I think I personally I think there’s
A little bit of bias coming from yam’s side that’s just me for sure um no Jets no no you said it well before you start started off everyone’s kind of a mix in here yeah no media they’re mixed but can you say that you really disliked Baker Mayfield why would I throughout years
You have disliked them ever since I think it was that it says eag that’s information that’s information that doesn’t need to be no it does so people can know why where you’re coming from no it was a Monday Night Football if I’m not mistaken and the Cleveland Browns
Had a a uh I think it was a just they lost all the all the games right um they lost all the games um so they they were looking for like for one season they had they Lo they lost all the games they drafted him and and and I forgot who was
Their quarterback at that time was it Hoyer I don’t remember and they decided to put Mayfield the second half and against the Jets and yes he he won the game him or the Browns won against the Jets but again remember they have Nick chub they have Kim hunt tell me the
Running back for the New York Jets tell me a wide receiver with I’m with you Sam darnold has has has had bad numbers I understand Baker Mayfield also has bad numbers with better Talent so if you put some darnold and the Cleveland Browns you think he would have done better than
Baker Mayfield yes so I think his numbers would have been much much better no no would he have them better absolutely see I don’t see any evidence of that but if you ask me who also not let me sorry one more thing and then I’ll let
You okay then he was under Adam Gaye also for two years yeah I know I I understand awful head coach probably one of the worst I’m not saying that Baker is so much better than Sam darnold well yeah well why don’t you make a statement
Who is better then I think Baker is a little bit better than Sam darnold okay because Sam darnold takes forever to throw the ball he’s quick actually no for me he like takes a long time to throw the ball he’s quick if you if you remember watching him he’s really
Quick at those short passes short passes but to throw those long darts that that Baker Mayfield did with with Landry and with Odell Beckham you’re mentioning a lot of wide rece those two wide receivers are well known and you’ve yet to tell me one for the Jets no I I
Understand that but at least he put it in a good position and darnold would have interceptions constantly because he had no one to throw to no even if he threw it you don’t have to like put it in a position where the defender is going to catch it look for me it’s
They’re both bad it’s it’s basically you’re looking at numbers and this is garbage and this is trash I wouldn’t say that they’re bad quarterbacks I just say that they’re a little bit better than average I’m saying the numbers are the same you’re you’re comparing no I just I
Just told you the numbers they’re not the same and I know what you’re saying about the team situation I completely understand that but it was his first year with the Panthers and he could have done a lot better even Robbie Anderson was so upset with him on the silence and
What did he say am I don’t remember tighten up tighten up bro cuz he wasn’t playing well at all he was getting really frustrated with his quarterback and it was his quarterback from the Jets okay so he knows that he knows his quarterback all right well I understand
So you say baker Mayfield’s better so who’s going to start so if I have to say who’s going to start I’m thinking darnold’s going to start so Baker’s better but darnold’s getting to start yes and let me tell you the reason why the reason why is because of the money
Situation and they’re going to give unless just Darnell just plays horrible horrible in training camp just horrible horrible then they’ll probably give the start to Baker Mayfield but they’re probably going to have Darnell start because they are paying him like 18 to 19 million because they picked up his fifth year
Option and so it’s a lot more money that they’re going to be paying darnold so it’s kind of the situation like they we’re giving him a lot of money he needs to play out and for Baker they’re giving him like half of that like $9 million so probably Darnell’s going to
Start and if he if they’re not winning they’re probably going to switch put the switch really quickly and just start baker even though it would be really exciting to see because in week one it’s going to be the Panthers against Cleveland Browns so even for media attention it’s pretty it would be really
Cool to see Baker Mayfield against the Cleveland Browns uh um I don’t think I’ve ever heard you guys be so passionate about such like a mediocre conversation or like a conversation about mediocre quarterbacks I think that’s impressive in itself well it’s interesting because these two were the you know the two one
Was taken first and the other one was taken to Third and now they’re in the same team yeah but name another time where you you’re like uh mediocre quarterbacks have been in the spotlight for that long well it really depends on who you define as a mediocre quarterback and I mean everybody likes
Underdog too like I would I would wish that these two like would do would do great in their career and and you know I feel more for darnold and it’s a lot of the pieces of why yams was saying because he was just had a horrible time
In in the New York Jets but I still believe that if he was better talented he would have done a little bit better and people would have seen I mean you like us three we’re not NFL coaches or Scouts and nobody was like dying to like
Trade for Baker or darnold the only ones that were like yeah come over here is the Panthers and the Panthers were also in the list to get DeShaun Watson those guys are just dying for a quarterback and look at the Seahawks like you said Aaron like they didn’t the supposedly
That they weren’t even interested so I mean I would like to see these guys flourish and and prove people wrong of course but what’s interesting to me is who is behind the decision to bring Baker Mayfield is it a coach decision or is a general general manager decision because
In this case yeah because if because I think it’s both you think so yeah I think that they the GM and the coach are in the same page that they need a quarterback and honestly like a lot like a lot of fans I probably a lot of fans
Probably think alike and saying like you know what we just need to have a we need a good a quarterback so let’s just bring all of these guys one of them has to hit one of them we have a decent team that I believe in the Carolina Panthers are
Kind of ready to have a playoff run and I mean they can do it I mean basically so they just need a quarterback and I’m not saying that they they have the answer a quarterback but they’re trying that’s why they did it with Cam Newan last year and they also did had Sam
Darnold so well we’ll see I’m still I still think it’s just a coach problem and I don’t think Matt rule is the answer for the Carolina Panthers well I think whatever it is getting Baker doesn’t excite me at all if I’m a Panther fan a Panthers fans
Excuse me um I there’s just so much to worry about that team uh you even have to like so Christian mcaffry is coming back right um is he going to stay healthy for a whole year what’s going to happen um you know your receivers you got DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson which
Are great but besides that I mean over on the defense it’s just pretty much like you said J uh JC horn and um Stefon Gilmore that’s it from what I can think of um but like besides that all the other players don’t seem like they can
Hold up as well and this is just some kind of like desperate move that I think this might be one of the final moments that yeah maybe Matt Ru is is going to be gone if if nothing can happen in like a season or two uh depending on what
Works out but I think what has to happen here is they have to be very decisive they can’t they can’t flip-flop like the Bears do you know I know there’s situation that’s also different but like it’s an example of how like an an organization can be or like a coaching
Staff can be flip-flopping very unorganized same thing with kind of like the 49ers when they have Tre Lance and garoo there’s just so much doubt like just just stick with your guns and if it doesn’t work out just take like at least give it a couple
Of tries because I mean Sam darnold has only been there for one season and now you’re going to get another good quarterback yeah you got him pretty cheap honestly and it might be the same level as Sam darnold but but don’t you think it’s also frustrating
That you feel like like you have a ready team and you’re just missing that quarterback piece and so time runs out like people’s contracts come up and you have to pay and then some people yeah because you don’t you don’t have other players that can carry you like I said
Like it’s just besides those key players I was mentioning there there’s no one else that can help out so it has to be the quarterback here that seals the deal and is I mean you’re not getting any better so I mean for what it was
Worth I think uh the trade that was made was pretty worth it um I was even considering that maybe they would send Sam Darnell to to the Browns to that degree um yeah like a trade tradeoff quarterbacks yeah I can see that but I do think that the
Panthers actually I I don’t think that they’re doing wrong by what they’re doing no no and I think they won the tradeit because they yeah I think so too yeah I mean look at look at that they they got a a quarterback with playoff experience right and you know you have
Him as a backup possible because I do think that Sam darn also experience what what do you mean one playoff he won a playoff thing yeah won that’s what I said uh Sam Dar has zero so that think D Prescott only has one two no yeah and I think he’s a
Better quarterback than those I I it’s just it’s playoff experience and that matters I mean they were there because they had a good team and the Panthers are a good team so there’s there’s they just got to figure out with what they have they were given these options and
Matt rule just has to figure it out and it’s going to suck because he’s probably gonna be fired if it doesn’t work out you know um but yeah sucks sucks to suck sucks to be a Panther fan I think it’s going to be complicated but Sam Darnell is going to start and I
Think Baker is better all right two for one um but we’ll move on from that and and go on to Baker Mayfield again guys very exciting um we’re going to compare him to other quarterbacks actually moving on from that so we’re going to do a would you rather
Situation here and I’m going to give you Baker or blank uh whatever other quarterback we have here on the list and and we’re going to go around the horn um I’ll start first and then we’ll go yams and then Andy and then we’ll just I’ll name the other quarterback and blah blah blah
And then we’re just going to be quick with it ready yeah okay so Baker Mayfield or Justin Fields Baker Mayfield you don’t want to say why I’m I’m afraid to say why I’m just not going to say anything I’m just going to I’m just going to say mine I’m not even going to
Explain I say Justin Fields he has a higher ceiling that we haven’t seen yet and we already know what baker has to offer I agree with the MS I I would say Justin Fields um you you already know again what Baker can can do and Justin Fields it’s a quarterback that you can
Coach and he has some abilities that Baker Mayfield doesn’t have and it’s just more interesting to to see what you can do with Justin Fields Baker Mayfield or Jared gof Baker Mayfield even though you know Jared gof went to the Super Bowl I just think he’s just capped out and I just
See a more talent in Baker Mayfield overall and I feel like Jared gof needs a good team to be a good quarterback and I hope that’s what they build in over there in Detroit but for now it’s Baker for me it’s going to be Jared Goff he
Has experience he has more than one playoff win uh he also has better completion percentages and rating so I think he is a better quarterback than Baker I’m also going to agree with yams and it’s not by much but I do agree that I would pick Jared gof he’s more
Coachable you’re not going to have that personality issues and being disgruntled you can coach him and like yam said he does have some from experience to even go to the to to win a Super Bowl he is a superble winning quarterback actually so no actually no
I’m sorry no no he lost against the Patriots the Patriots won yeah oh he was gifted a very talented team they went all the way to the end but such a boring game dude it was it was but I would still Pi ER K off I just see
Baker Mayfield be more exciting uh Baker Mayfield or Marcus Mariota I think uh simply because of experience uh Baker Mayfield as well Marcus Marietta is not even a starter so uh yeah it I agree with you and he has more experience Mariota we don’t see him often he’s
Actually I don’t think he can even stay healthy so I would say that too so Baker maybe feel is the first time I’m picking Baker against Mariota and that’s because just injury for me that’s another reason I should have brought up because of of why Baker is better than darnold darnold
Can’t finish a season just with only that okay Baker is better okay okay also let me just okay yeah he’s been injured every year fine no Ando too Mano but he hasn’t had surgery he hasn’t had surgery regardless Baker May if he’ll got injured once and guess what okay under
Well that’s that happens to players that doesn’t mean that they’re going to be out so just with the health issue I would pick Baker and in this case with marota easy to pick because of Health Baker okay we already talked about Baker and Sam Donalds you missed your
Opportunity well that’s why I’m Baker Mayfield May Baker Mayfield or jamus Winston I think Baker Mayfield because I don’t want the interception machine although I do think he’s really talented though but it’s just from what I’ve seen from my experience it it’s just I his intercept touchdown to interception
Ratio it’s just something I really don’t like who is it who is Winston is the interception okay well I actually say Jameson Winston because why you laugh no no go for it they both throw a lot of interceptions so it’s really the same thing I choose him only because he has leadership
Quality and I think he can rally the team around him and Baker Mayfield is selfish and eagle has a lot of ego um I’m actually going to go with Baker in this one and the reason is is because of what Aaron said the interceptions even though they both want
Uh at some point let the league in interceptions I would still go with Baker because I just feel like he’s a little bit more a little bit more competitive than J Winston I think J Winston has a big personality and is very like just like a
Like a fun quarterback type of thing and I just I need my I need my quarterback to be just like we have to be competitive and win but that’s why I would choose Baker Baker Mayfield or Carson Wentz um tough one because they they’ve done both of them have done pretty
Embarrassing things and I think they’re around the same level uh I yeah yeah um I really don’t know how to separate these guys at least from like off the top of my head and I don’t want to just say either I mean neither I don’t know I I don’t
Know you have to choose one I they’re both kind of just whatever you know what I’m just going to dismiss your you’re choosing and I’m just going to say Carson wins he’s he is better than than Baker Mayfield and and and I say by a lot probably he is more
Talent Colts yeah no I understand the commanders well look well I mean at least he has a starting job and they actually were looking for him to get him so the commanders with a with a good coach and Ron Rivera that went to the Super Bowl was like I can win with this
Guy nobody wanted Sam darnold or Baker Mayfield So in this place in in this time they actually they I mean the commanders got what they wanted also the the Colts they were they see what what I guess I think I see in him is that he’s
A good quarterback he just does he just needs help around him and and yeah he I’m not saying he’s amazing and he’s great but I think he’s out out of all of these quarterbacks that we spoke about he’s probably the most talented I think he has the same team he
Had with the Colts though like the commanders in the Colts yeah but maybe in this case he with the coach of Rivera it’s going to be a little bit of a different situation maybe and he has a decent defense here as well so the commanders yeah yeah I I
Agree with all the things you said went is a much better Baker and then Baker not even close he when he plays well he can elevate a team to win so I mean it’s all on Carson Wentz to not make those dumb decisions when there I needed the most kind of like
Romo but yes I think by far he’s much better I just took the guy who hasn’t been on three teams so um will he’ll Aaron give it one or two years and there goes Baker to his third team it’s just when when I think Carson Wentz dude I just think of that really
Dumb highlight he had with that interception yeah yeah it was horrible and I’m with you like I’m with you and this is and to me this is Carson wentz’s last time that he has the the opportunity to be a franchise starter after this if he doesn’t do well with the commanders he’s
Done yep that’s why I think Baker just has more to prove he’s barely going to be on a second team it’s just kind of complicated situation because not a lot of teams they they’re just they’re not comfortable enough with taking another quarterback that’s around the same level
That they have but they’re just I see what you mean but the thing is that with Baker they they the Panthers got Baker and they’re still like not not knowing who their quarterback is and the the difference is that with Carson winds they know who their quarterback is as
Carson WIS they’re not like well we’ll we’ll see what it is and we’ll see what this qu there’s no other backup to to challenge him well yeah but don’t you think that that the commanders would have tried to get it commanders are in a different situation than the Panthers the Panthers
Are they’re kind of close no I think the commanders they have a good team what’s going on okay then what’s going on with the the coaching situation with the then I thought we were just talking about how Matt rule is just on the borderline of just being out and yeah uhhuh but Ron
Rier is not in the hot seat at least not I don’t think so exactly and that’s what I’m saying to aon’s point that’s my that’s to my point it’s a different situation well I mean team-wise with removing the coach I think that they have both have good players around them
To to get them to that level I mean I wouldn’t be surprised I mean in the NFC East I know that we that we when we were choosing him who’s going to be like the predictions we were choosing the Cowboys and but honestly that that division is
Wide open except for the Giants honestly but the Eagles the the commanders and the Cowboys can all be able to just jump off and and win that division yeah wz isn’t a horrible quarterback it’s just you know he has very untimely the the decisions he makes like
Those mistakes are very costly and it’s just a risk you know for me it’s his in he’s injury prone too that’s what’s really frustrating yeah that’s really frustrating I think that when when he went down and the Eagles won that Super Bowl I think he could have had a really
Good chance to win that Super Bowl too because he was playing lights out okay what about Baker Mayfield and Ryan tannahill I think Ryan tanan Hill here that’s in my opinion oh that one’s super easy for me tanah Hill yeah after after he left Miami Miami and and became
The quarterback for for the Tennessee Titans I mean he has proven to be a good quarterback for the NFL he’s not Aaron Rogers he’s not Pat Mahomes right but he’s certainly better than Baker Mayfield no doubt for sure I agree too I think we can all agree Tana Hill I mean
And I feel sorry for the guy Davis is gone AJ Brown is gone Julio Jones Julio Jones is is kind of like you know dead beat now I’m just kidding no no but I mean maybe he doesn’t have enough juice no well he’s not definitely like how he
Starting his career but I’m just saying like wide receiver wise like I feel bad for him that his what he was playing with like they’re all gone yeah they did that dra that uh wide receiver though what was his name uh he was one of the top wide
Receivers uh I can’t remember the name uh all right whatever they still have DK hen yeah the running back they’re going to run it they they have Robin right they have Robert Woods and they have trayon Burks and Nick Westbrook that’s who they that’s who they drafted Westbrook no no
That rings the bell no no no and then they got Austin Hooper that that guy has been jumping around was with Cleveland Trey Burks no that’s the one they drafted not sure that’s the one they drafted I’m almost certain that’s the one they drafted that’s one they drafted
Yeah let me see and but right now he’s listed as yeah round one pick 18 and right now he’s AR is he really injured it says here on ESPN status questionable oh gosh maybe he came from from college already injured um yeah so we’ll move on we’ll move on
From that um with the free agency still you know there’s still some I guess you could say there’s still good talent out there obviously um still some availability and some big question marks on some of these players and where they’re going to go before the season starts or maybe who knows during
The season but I think for the most part uh there’s a few of them that are actually going to I think they’re going to get signed before the season but we’re going to name our around the we’re going to do around the horn again we’re going to name our most enticing player for
The offensive side and defensive side that’s a free agent um and we’ll start off with the offensive side I think for me it’s um but you want to name the the play oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the pret so the players are Odell Beckham will Fuller Eric Fischer and Julio Jones
And then for the defensive side it’s going to be Anthony bar and Dominic Sue Sheldon Richardson I Sheldon Richardson doesn’t ring the bell anyway anyways um offensive side we’re going to start with that we’re going to go around and then we’ll do defensive side um for me I
Think it’s a tough one between Odell Beckham and will Fuller uh but I think well I I mean I would go with Odell Beckham but will Fuller is also not a bad choice at all um because he’s done good things in his career but I think I would go with
Odell Beckham and just you know hope he doesn’t get injured I think that’s the player I would try to sign you said Beckham yep see the problem with that is that Beckham is with that torn ACL that he has I don’t think he’s going to be able
To to do much this season those acl’s and it looks like how that how it sounds it was kind of like a really bad one so I think that they were like the last reports they were talking about him coming like like around ready in October so he’s already missing all September
And in October like you can’t just put on him all in force so for this year I’m with you in talent wise but for this year I would think I would go with Julio Jones and the reason is is because I mean I know that he’s not to
Back to his his hisself I think he only had um one touchdown with the with the Tennessee Titans last year and before that with atena only three I mean but he’s a Hu he’s a big guy so I’m thinking he can do pretty well with those um back
Shoulder throws and I think you can rotate them for those types of situations for like those quick passes or in the in the red zone or even that you need some yards like to make the first down I think you can play with them um you can use them a lot in that
Way so just because of Beckham’s injury I would go with Julio Jones well I don’t know what you mentioned the AI I don’t know how maybe he could recover sooner and if he does I mean obviously I think the obvious choice here is Odell Beckham you know when he was playing for
The Los Angeles Rams I feel like he was coming back to his Prime Self again you know it’s unfortunate that he had that AC ACL injury in the Super Bowl you know but I I think I think he can come come back if not maybe to the Rams and or I
Like him going back to or even going to Green Bay if if it’s not him with the ACL I think it’s him I it would be will Fuller I don’t think Julio Jones is I don’t know what’s wrong with him like I said I think he might be just you
Know cooked maybe he’s tired or you know doesn’t have enough juice he’s not playing the way he used to play I mean maybe this year we’ll see some but I don’t know I think he’s I think he’s his juice is down will Fuller has had some trouble though with injuries also yeah
It’s all about injuries so in Houston he was getting injured yeah these options aren’t great no that’s why there’s still out and available I I don’t even know Eric fiser Eric fiser wasn’t he with uh the commanders or no he was with the Colts Colts oh you’re right Colts he wasn’t
Good no he was he actually got injured with his Achilles so was he any good I can’t remember him being any good well but I mean he’s still there so but definitely I think it would be Odell Beckham if his injury does you know prolong to be longer than you know
That’s important because I do think he he has he’s looking like his Prime Self again I mean he Eric Fischer was a good offensive lineman I think he does have some I mean depending on his injury if he gets better I mean he did win the
Super Bowl with with the with the Chiefs mhhhm so I I I mean if you need somebody like to get in there and and despite I mean in in the offensive line and you need some help I mean I don’t think he’s a he’s a bad
Choice well if if he’s not a bad choice it’s it’s a really good value for for him for an offensive line Panther should pick him up or or maybe you know see at um Broncos too heck I would even say your cow your Cowboys aren if they need some offensive line help
And some just some rotation there especially with L Collins gone too yeah they have steel but I think so where are they no no see I don’t know what the situation is with the Cowboys because they drafted um Smith right that’s machine yeah but they still have Tyron Smith so
Where are they going to put him on left guard I’m thinking cuz he’s a tackle right yeah he’s well he’s yeah he’s a tackle so I’m thinking where are they going to put him I guess in the left guard or because they have Steel on the right tackle side and then for Right
Guard well of course is Zach Martin and Center well you can’t he’s not going to be Center so maybe just like in case I mean if he’s if he’s available and affordable it’s a great value to get Eric Fischer honestly yeah I agree I mean yeah definitely offensive line are more
Reliable uh for the most part at least um but what about the defensive side with Anthony Bar linebacker defensive tackle indom IND IND Dominic Su kind of mess up his name and then defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson um I think I go with Anthony bar here Anthony bar I think he’s pretty good yeah
Honestly this was kind of hard for me to choose um and donic Su look I don’t he’s kind of what 35 years old um I think he’s probably good up there in age is he 35 yeah I didn’t know that maybe well he’s the oldest one from the three that were
Mentioned yeah but I didn’t think he was that old yeah he’s 35 35 right yeah so um not saying that that’s old for life no no it’s not old for life but in the NFL uh as an as ANL in the NFL for for an athlete so Anthony Bar he from when I
Was looking at his stats he doesn’t seem to play the full season and he has this knee issue that just seems to be the reason why he doesn’t come on the field sometimes Sheldon Richardson he was on the New York Jet so I am familiar with the way he
Plays didn’t he go with the Giants he he went to Seattle then he went to Browns and then he ended up with the Vikings so he’s been around um he’s he’s good I was kind of surprised that you know after the Four Seasons you know they had to
Let him go I guess they didn’t want to pay after his rookie contract was up um so they traded him to the Seahawks it was a difficult one for me to choose but I chose Sheldon because of his consistency to show up and play um so yeah I do remember Sheldon
Richard he was a pretty good player but now as you can see he’s been jumping around from Team to team also dangu has been jumping from Team to team and Anthony bar again the injury for me it’s just a big problem if you can’t stay healthy then it’s it’s kind of hard for
Me to keep him on team so from all these three I would picking D and Su and he could be a rotational linebacker though it could be but I I I still even with the injuries like indam su he he plays you know and also I mean look at
The teams that actually go after indam kingu because they they think that he’s a force I think that he’s going to go back to Tempa I think that they’re going to work out a contract for him but he did go to the Super Bowl um I I believe um um was it with
The well okay well they picked them from Tampa Bay so they know that they they have like a star team there he did play for the Rams as well so with sha McVey I I really respect his his outlook for football and I think and so he played
There as well um he also played under Brian Flores and Miami so that tells you also to I also respect a lot Brian Flores and when he was in Miami so he’s a he’s a player that uh that the people that actually that I have so much
Respect for in football and that are winning teams do get in ding Su so that’s why I would get in ding SU I think I would have put him second too as well like it it was very close especially for that reason that he’s not injury-prone
Um and yeah I just I I don’t remember Shelton Richardson like off the top of my head in my opinion so that’s why I was only like between those two but yeah it it’s pretty close and it’s a good reason to just go with uh Su with the
Fact that he’s not injury prone and I do think he’s probably going to go back to the Buccaneers for sure uh Bar’s last team was um the Vikings right yeah yeah as a matter of fact I think he was about to go to to the New
York Jets lucky for the Jets he didn’t they didn’t make that deal strapped them off for cash mhm yeah he backed out last minute you think they could still pick him up for cheaper I think we’re good oh man I mean who knows what the Jets are thinking right
What do you think their mindset is right now like are they just like I don’t know we’ll see what happens break is this their time to like I guess start um you think they have their Foundation set or you think or their possible Foundation obviously there’s lots of question marks because we
Haven’t seen a lot of the new people that just got drafted play those there’s a lot of Hope on them and a lot of hype on them because they had such an amazing draft there’s also a lot of Hope on Zach Wilson showing up and playing lights out
So I don’t know the expectation is there is positivity but the reality is we haven’t seen anything yet so yeah it’s a big question mark I mean I have no clue it’s like prove it to me and show me what you got I mean I would give them
That they had a really good draft by draft like is concerned um like if you don’t know like the players I mean you think that the players are are going to be playing well in the NFL like they played in college but it’s still a question mark so it’s all for grabs and
We haven’t done the projections right for the AFC East yet all I already know where you guys put the Jets so no you don’t know I do know oh we haven’t done it really are you sure yeah there’s we we’ve only done the AF and the AFC side
The AFC North and the AFC West we still have to do the AFC South and AFC East yeah we need to do that and the thing is the Jets look good on on paper right so that’s a depending what type of paper Okay construction paper cuz they’re constructing it okay no that’s the
Cowboys no the no the Cowboys are it’s a sandpaper yeah it’s just rough and it’s it’s it’s hard and it like it’s a it just can I don’t know you you you like there’s a lot of people that use that paper for construction and stuff I mean
Not for construction for yeah it’s yeah you’re right they’re like Cowboys are sandpaper they you can use them you can wear them out until by the time you know the Sandpaper gets a little soft and it’s no longer good anymore yeah and then you start replacing it so you start
Replacing it and replacing it to you know make make the team work so you keep masking it with more and with the Jets it’s construction paper because you mess up a lot you throw it away you get another one you mess up a lot you throw it away you get another
One mess up a lot yeah I mean tell me that they have not okay okay you’re just the Cowboys are just lucky to be the America’s Team all right anyways before we get anything uh get out of hand here uh I think they’re just both good teams
You know they could be they could be pretty good this this year who knows we’ll see hey Aon next year Cowboys against Jets you down uh yeah the Jets will probably win and I wouldn’t be surprised they play in D they play in Dallas definitely down well
Actually I have good luck I go to games and my team wins so yes I’m pretty confident [Laughter] okay um yeah all right so that’s going to do it for this episode unless we have something else to say anything else but uh before you know I start naming off our socials no just
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Pre-season right no just a season just a season cuz the pre-season’s like in beginning of August right yeah yeah I mean Andy’s excited for the preseason right heck yeah for sure yeah no I I’m with the season now um but yeah uh thank you guys so much for listening and until
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