Rex Hoggard and Ryan Lavner review the media coverage Charlie Woods has been receiving, his amateur performance and more. #GolfChannel #GolfChannelPodcast #CharlieWoods
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What I didn’t like this particular week was the I I would I would just call it cringy attention that it received rather than just focusing on the scores and whether it was good enough it was the the it was the autograph Seekers it was the PGA tour’s own Department making the
Conscious decision to send a team there to document it it’s just so cringy it’s so disrespectful for how I think you should be treating a 15-year-old in in this environment and I also I also question kind of the the strategy that’s involved here you know maybe it was to try and get
Charlie um you know accustomed to going low in a single day event which is what you’re you know that’s that’s going to be the case in in anything whether it’s college golf pro golf like you’re gonna have to put the peg in the ground and
See if you could shoot 67 which was the score that he needed to to get in here but he’s also never played an AJ agga event he has a sponsor exemption coming up he’s never played in qualifiers for the USA amateur or the US junor you know
I I highly doubt that team Woods could thought could think that that Charlie could slip in under the radar and just and just play this pre-qualifier without him knowing but the fact that they keep signing off on this is a little bit of a of a head scratcher as well that’s that’s
Definitely something that tiger needs to be asked in a couple weeks time assuming he plays at the Players Championship what did to think of the attention and what’s kind of the strategy in the social media world to to handle it I I don’t mind you know tiger deciding you
Know Charlie needs to go out and do this more to your point and we had a colleague at Golf Digest I think did this during the PNC Championship where he kind of broke down because you and I probably get the same questions all the time it’s right around PNC like how good
Is Charlie Woods like his swing looks just like his dad is he gonna be great and like our colleague Jay coffin kind of broke it down in a very interesting way kind of pointed out like this is what his amateur record is and for the State of Florida for his age group he’s
Probably in the top one-third he’s not number one he’s not number one in all Juniors like it it needs to be pointed out because he hasn’t done those things that you just pointed out like he’s a good player I think he was the fourth player out of five on his high school
Team that won the state championship last year either four he kind of the five he was kind of the five six man that ended up winning the state championship I mean he clearly has a lot of talent anyone who watches the PNC like that dude’s got a great swing got
Tons of speed like lot of potential there but he’s not there yet no he’s not so one half of this is looking at it from the dad’s perspective you know just because your dad’s Tiger Woods he still has to make the same decisions we have and you’ll have to make the same
Decisions with your kids at some point when it comes to whatever sport they choose to play do you push them do you want them just to enjoy it do you want them to to push themselves against better competition that’s what this feels like he wanted to do he wanted to
Send sort of Charlie Into the Fire and see like okay this is what you have to do when you have a pencil in your hand and a scorecard in your back pocket you’ve got to post some sort of score you’ve got to figure out a way to get it
Around for 18 holes that I’m fine with going back to the part about the attention when it ends up on Sports Center and I guess bronnie is a really good comp because I have rolled my eyes when I’m watching sports center and I hear them talk about bronnie getting
Three points in the second half against whoever and you’re like I’m sure someone on that team got more than three points like that that could he could have been the high scorer in the second half like that’s not fair to him that’s not fair
To the rest of the team it’s kind of not fair to the sport it’s the nature of media we’re both in media I understand that but yeah again you just felt like it was just dirty and I I don’t know that there’s any way around it it’s not
Going to scale back from here every time now he shows up at that US Open qualifier or maybe even another Monday pre-qualifier it’s gonna be the same thing and like obviously I was not around for Jack nichols’s children’s pursuit of a professional golf career but the the game has just changed in in
Myriad ways with social media everybody’s a keyboard Warrior everyone has a cell phone like there’s just there’s nowhere to hide whether he’s playing in high school golf whether he’s playing in these sorts of qualifiers whether he’s playing in the PNC like there’s just such a microscope now that that children of famous
Athletes endure it’s just it’s just a very unpleasant place I can imagine that you would want to reside you know I would not want to be in that position you you want to have every um you want to have every right you want to have every opportunity to kind of chase your
Dreams and there’s so many more obstacles that are put in front of these kids of famous athletes now then that just didn’t exist 20 or 30 years ago and so I certainly empathize with that I I understand the attention certainly but I empathize with Charlie I empathize with
Tiger trying to kind of protect him as as as long as you can but it’s just it’s a cruel vicious world and it’s it’s going to be really really difficult to to make it well and I can kind of see the thought process here because I’ve watched Tiger’s attitude on this change
Since he first since Charlie first played in the PNC that first year tiger was very very protective as he should with I think Charlie was 12 at the time when he played in the first one like I I I would be just as protective I would
Hope I’d be just as protective with my kids where he didn’t like he wasn’t involved in the interviews he didn’t want to do any post game stuff with him he just wanted Charlie to be there for the golf be on the Range be be there for
The golf it changed at last year it is evolved to the point that Charlie is right there next to him in the post round you can tell the way he carries himself and again I think this is Tiger Woods the dad P pushing his son to take
On new things to experience new things because it sounds to me like he’s he remembers what his dad Earl did with him and okay I need to push Charlie in this particular case and luckily he has this quote unquote luxury of being able to put him in the the spotlight and decide
How it’s going to sort of unravel I don’t know because I wouldn’t have seen this coming I wouldn’t have expected it would have gotten as ugly and dirty and people demanding autographs and and selfies and needing so much security at a at a pre-qualifier like I I’m kind of
With tiger on this one like I would have had no idea that it was going to blow up to be that disgusting it’s gross I think the PJ tour uh sending a video team is a decision I’m sure was was highly scrutinized inside HQ as well but I
Wonder if there’s any regrets on making it a bigger deal than perhaps it was
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I just hope he can humble himself or the game will do it for him…I was a fan of Charlie and it was cool to watch him at the PNC but this year when I saw him waving a drive and acting the way he was acting, it really turned me off…we all know how hard this game is so the least you can do is respect the game, he already has a target on his back. His dad is a perfect example and how the love you when you’re up but they cannot wait to tear you apart.
Does anyone know what Charlie’s handicap is? Judging his game compared to mine I reckon he’s +1 or +2. Obviously very good for 15 year old but no where near good enough to be a pga tour pro. Their are hundreds of kids his age who are way better but that doesn’t mean he can’t improve and make it .
he's only 15, let him progress normally, we didn't know Tiger existed until he joined the PGA, let him finish highs school, college and then try for pro.
Cringe media and fans aside Charlie needs to do what he has to do. To the kids credit and tiger they seem mostly unfazed.
I caddied for a boy about his age at a pre qualifier for the Sony the kid had just shot under par on a different course but of course with tours truly looping he sucked it up and pretty dejected, saying he would not try that again. I reminded him these qualifiers are for guys in their mid 20s and that these pro qualifiers are invaluable experience. And of course to not give up and keep trying.
Charlie is no different.
I’m sure Charlie can shoot a 67 or better. But sometimes in a new environment like this it ends up being a 77 or worse.
But if you keep coming back, you have a chance to eventually ply your best in one of these.
Imma big believer in getting experience sooner than later. That’s all tiger and Charlie are doing.
My guess is this was Charlie’s idea, not tigers.
I didn’t exactly see anything from this event. We were at the girls Notah event where Charlie competed the day before. The worker guy said there was a few people watching but security kept it pretty mellow. It always comes back to security, just ask the WM.
But Notahs event has spectator ropes. Do they need them? No. But they are there because spectators are welcome.
Sure we are used to no one spectating a pre qualifier or a junior event. But it’s also kind of cool to have some spectators and cameras around. It does get going golfers ready for bigger settings.
I will add any event with Charlie will have to take some precautions security wise.
But for the most part of Charlie is going to play golf he needs to be ready for a lot of attention. That’s how it’s going to be.
To his credit he seems unfazed.
It’s nothing but detrimental for Charlie Woods…..even Tiger didn’t have this kind of attention at 15
SEND IN THE GIRLS
I think just let him be. Let the kids clubs do the talking for him, and then send the media once he is more proven. Wishing Charlie all the best, but Charlie is not his dad. His dad was a cold blooded killer! Young Tiger was ready to to kick everyone’s ass as a teenager.