The Full Show from 02/14/2024 of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz. Hour by hour descriptions below.

Local: We’re only two days post-Super Bowl and LeBron James is already in the headlines, but don’t worry, we can pivot and get to Mike Ryan’s two-day old Super Bowl takes as he makes his triumphant return from “retirement.” Then, was Tom Brady a compiler? Does Duncan Robinson have that dog in him? Will the Marlins sign…anyone? Plus, David Samson is here to discuss his FOMO over Vegas, the Super Bowl viewing audience, Kyle Shanahan and the rules, and why he would’ve benched Travis Kelce.

BS: David Samson sticks around to entertain a 2003 World Series hypothetical relating to his Travis Kelce criticism. He also talks MLB uniforms and seam-seamst-seamstre-uh-seamsters. Then, when does love die? Our crew has a long conversation about Valentine’s Day, giving gifts, and…holding it down. Plus, Jason Kelce parties through Vegas with Taylor Swift and his brother, Billy dismisses Jeff Goldblum, and John Reed delivers a Valentine’s Day song.

H1: Did Taylor Swift tell Travis Kelce she was “turned on” after a Chiefs win? Tony the lawyer and the rest of the crew take a deep dive to find out. Then, Mike reveals a secret about a 1-800-Flowers promotion that may get the entire crew in trouble with their significant others. Jessica’s grandmother gives the greatest endorsement of all-time. Plus, Dan reads Awful Announcing’s tribute to Mike Ryan in front of Mike Ryan in order to make everyone uncomfortable.

H2: We finally pay tribute with a video to our favorite EP in the history of the show, Chris Wittyngham. Then, Dan says the guard has changed in the NBA, Jessica has lunch for Valentine’s Day, Roy works from home, and Stugotz fakes his way through an interview with Lil’ Dicky. Plus, Justin Tinsley of Andscape is here to talk Brandon Marshall’s claim about Kanye West and Taylor Swift, Usher, Russell Simmons, and Beyoncé’s upcoming album.

Post: Travis Kelce has formally apologized for his egregious actions, and Billy has a Valentine’s Day gift for the fans (it’s everyone’s favorite game…AGAINST! THE! SPREAD!).

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[00:00:01:07] – Intro
[01:08-03:51] – Warriors wanted LeBron?
[03:52-12:40] – Leftover Super Bowl Takes
[12:41-16:45] – Mahomes vs. Brady
[16:46-21:09] – Heat Overpower Bucks
[21:10-24:46] – Marlins Lose Jorge Soler
[24:47-49:00] – David Samson
[49:01-57:25] – Valentine’s Day gifts
[57:26-01:01:20] – Dunkin’s Super Bowl Commercial
[01:01:21-01:23:43] – Too much Jason Kelce?
[01:23:44-01:29:58] – Kelce Celebration Videos
[01:29:59-01:36:05] – Mahomes Family Woes
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[01:58:09-02:03:07] – Usher’s Super Bowl Payout
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Stop that stop that sh with the white girls tell me I’m awesome yeah like fire on the street me I’m awesome yeah like fire on the P if you want to touch stop that stop that stop [Applause] that right after the Super Bowl stugots immediately at the end of football right

With impeccable perfect timing LeBron James enters the mix LeBron Le James LeBron James enters the conversation before the NBA allar team he is not on one of the best teams but in a sport for the last 15 years he has dominated and the storylines are everywhere in that sport for him at the

End to be this old and still be in the game about the Warriors are having owner to owner conversations about whether or not LeBron James wants to shift the balance of the league by playing with Steph Curry at the end and creating whatever that story is what’s going on

Back there with you guys you seem to be uh a lot of questions back here on when was the All-Star trade deadline or was it before the allstar break or not the NBA trade Dead trying the thing is I told everybody back here it was in Vegas

We just didn’t see it because of all the thousand things we were doing in Vegas but I remember walking by a TV at the sports book and being like huh the Knicks made a trade yeah apparently apparently the trade deadline is now before the All-Star game which I

Understand why because it can be really awkward if you get traded you know around there but all these stories about LeBron they’re interesting but they’re much to do about nothing since it’s not an actual power play the day is come and gone uh correct but it’s still him

Trying to get in the conversation is it not it’s it’s him uh is there a lack of LeBron conversation I mean LeBron’s in the conversation still it’s Golden State trying to win another championship that’s what and LeBron’s saying no I don’t want to win a championship there

It’s weird do you find interesting what is happening with the Warriors at the end of this dynastic run where Klay Thompson is talking to you out loud about his vulnerabilities and jerkish and Draymond Green are going back and forth and basically The Clash in the middle of the warriors with Draymond

Green is do you mock him for doing therapy do you like that’s actually that’s that is now where the mental health conversation has gone in the NBA where Trash Talk resides Draymond and Charles Barkley are going to be doing a simal cast of the All-Star Game together Draymond is is creating his

Media career right now it’s going to be a flourishing wonderful mess he’s going to be willing to trash people he’ll go for four minutes on jerkic but jerkic hits him with don’t stay too long on your podcast you don’t want to be late for therapy you’re doing a Chris Cody

Thing where you combine the first letter of the first name and then the last name or you got something else on your mind on Valentine’s Bubba huh Jessica I am soothed by seeing you back there because you have emerged from the Vegas Airport still loud talking for 3

Days what do you mean you don’t uh you don’t remember the conversation that you had with Greg Cody that was drunker than Greg Cody’s conversation I asked Tony if he was here on Monday like sat next to I think I I think she is drunk the way Jason

Kelsey was drunk in that airport he’s not going to shake that off for four days yeah that’s pretty accurate I saw a picture of Jason Kelce in the airport like just with his head down wearing a cardigan in the bright fluorescent lights at at baggage claim and I was

Like yeah I that’s how I felt for like 4 days now I in no amount of sleep has has healed me that flight hurts huh the all about that flight hurts through that airport after if you spent six seven four days in Vegas that flight hurts

That City hurts the flight hurts all of it hurts it doesn’t help either that my mom like who I barely ever talk to cuz she doesn’t know how to use a phone told me yesterday on the phone I look really tired on Monday thanks mom come on oh no

You bounce back well but you don’t remember parts of your Sunday or Monday like the when when I was told that you were drunker than Greg Cody Jessica it’s not something I can fathom I haven’t seen on a spectrum of drunkenness drunker than Greg Cody yeah neither have

I you don’t recall it I have no idea what we talked about Dan I I have no idea all I know is Monday we were talking on the show about me giving my eyelashes to Louis and then Lee sent me a picture of my room key from Circa with

A pair of dried contacts and eyelashes stuck to it oh you had a week I mean you had a week I had a day I I was just one day I can’t imagine being there for oh wait we were there for six days I forgot well an argument broke out before the

Show today stug because uh Mike Ryan has retired and for two days is now returning in a new role H but hasn’t gotten to talk about the Super Bowl publicly and Jessica was uh still loud talking from drunk Las Vegas Airport about uh about about how much news came

Out of the press conference where Shanahan is explaining how he coughed up the Super Bowl coughed up the Super Bowl with decision making and nobody wants to think about it so Mike and Jessica you haven’t gotten a chance to talk about the Super Bowl what are your remnants of

Super Bowl observations that we haven’t had time to heat around here what’s a worse look for Kyle Shanahan to double down and try to apply logic kind of reverse engineer a reason why he decided to receive the ball first or to just say you know it’s the first year of the this

Whole new rule most of us learned via Adam Scher notification right before overtime started and I know that’s the case for like 90% of everybody second guessing it man there’s no way everybody was familiar with these rules I I know the Chiefs said we’ve actually gone through this scenario and that’s great

By Andy Reid it was very clear as use Che said the Niners didn’t know the rule otherwise why else would you receive the ball in that moment and according to Kyle Shanahan it was because he wanted the the ball third yep and now I don’t know if you remember the game there was

No third possession this and I’m a huge Kyle Shanahan guy huge and I do find it interesting that he is the new Andy Reid and I hope like Andy Reid he can one day change his legacy this it’s so good this is a immense betrayal yes from your head

Coach like that is so bad the these two teams were very equal it was a good game and it came down essentially to someone not knowing the rules uh to answer your question the worst look is what he’s doing right now which is doubling down just come out and acknowledge hey I was

Wrong I didn’t know the rules stop making excuses he was playing for a third possession that didn’t exist the Chiefs told him hey there was no third possession if you scored a touchdown we were going to score a touchdown and we were going for two that’s it also just

Firing this takeoff because I haven’t had a chance to talk about one of the greatest Super Bowls ever momes earlier this season Mahomes earlier this season complained about the officiating and he was was very frustrated and then he texted his wife in a group chat I’m

Going to make the Super Bowl in Vegas watch that’s awesome the uh the game changed when Kansas City realized oh we can hold this front four with impunity because that front four was dominating that game Mahomes did nothing in that first half and the tackles just

Said all right we’re going to let it fly and be hug these pass rushers from San Francisco that’s fine the officials let him play well no the game turned there you say that’s fine the officials let them play I have this right the Chiefs have now played 13 quarters of Super

Bowl football without ever being called for a hold correct I mean we’ve all seen the clip of Bosa being be hugged on on a hugely important play Chase young was maybe on his way to an MV performance and we didn’t see much of that in the second half and it’s because the

Adjustment that was made by Kansas City was okay these officials are going to let us play we can do whatever we want and by the way those Kansas City tackles have been getting away with so much all season long so that’s why I came down so hard when Patrick Mahomes decided to be

A baby about officiating he gets the benefit of the doubt so often a couple of other things because Jessica you thought interesting the explanation as well you thought that uh Shanahan made it worse yesterday I think so I think he should have just lied take a leaf out of

Stug got’s personal record book just lie just be like we talked about every scenario and this was the one that we thought would work it didn’t work but we we discussed it a lot and and we we thought long and hard about it I I thought I specifically pulled huge check

Aside and I ran down every scenario with him so I don’t know what he’s talking about I also told him to play dumb after the game this was all part of my master plan it didn’t work but we planned all of this I I understand why stat we would

Go to the end of the game and talk about rules at the end because what he’s saying is egregious but if I go to you earlier in the game and I show you all of the things that were happening hey can you believe that Debo Samuel can’t do anything against McDuffy nothing at

All Debo Samuel erased that it’s going to look like San Francisco is doing great things offensively but if you’ve held KD and auk and auk’s going to leave there unhappy his whole family’s unhappy because he wasn’t used in the Super Bowl and at the end on the play they needed

The most to got the play they needed the third and four play where you’ve got to win and and eliminate this criticism for your coach because on third and fourth down you keep the ball and the referees that we have the audio now of the referees saying you can’t give the ball

Back to momes on the third and four play where P’s got to make a play he’s not throwing the KD he’s not mcaffry is open m the play should have gone to mcaffrey somebody comes in mcdu McDuffy comes in unimpeded and the game the game ends right there because you never give the

Ball back to McDuffy if if all of a sudden you’ve got the ball in the game in your hands right you never give the ball back to momes sure and so when you watch the expertise of what you’re talking about there because Mike’s not wrong you got to know the rules and and

How do you not know the rules but perie had the game one and in the where the margins of the football game is one they’re throwing py to Jennings because they’ve eliminated auk and everybody on the team but Dan the game’s not won even if they score that’s the point it’s why

He needed to go for it on fourth down well it’s why you want the ball second so you know exactly what the scenario is instead of having three Downs you have four downs to play with there I think in in the when the press conferences that have ensued after the the Super Bowl

Brock party said that there was a misassignment on that final play I know you’re a big lerus Sneed guy but I’ve seen two videos of McDuffy being out in the open on that vintage Trent Williams off tackle run where he’s just lead blocking and Trent McDuffy holds his own

Against Trent Williams it was insane and also shout out to Bill Jerome Barnwell because I sat through a a 60-minute live podcast with him where he said the exactor in that game would be the fourth best linebacker for Kansas City Leo Chanel an off ball linebacker for them

He was pro football focus’s highest graded player player in that game offb linebacker is one of those positions that was all of a sudden devalued by analytics until they realized they had that one wrong in the last two years that’s become the analytical darling position and he probably was the entire

Key to that game uh as we talk about all the keys to the game the keys to the game after the keys to the game The Game’s been played this is from Neil Payne Neil substack since 2001 there have been 125 drives in the NFL postseason where it was at least the

Fourth quarter there was under a minute left to play and the team on offense trailed by seven points or fewer at the start these are your standard clutch moments for a football team the Do or Die drives that win and lose critical games out of those 125 drives only 40%

Of them saw the team on offense pull off the magic trick and get the points they needed some quarterbacks are pretty good at it such as Tom Brady who went five for 11 46% or Drew Brees who went three for six 50% only Patrick Mahomes though

Is seven for seven or perfect in those dire situations and the refs are on audio saying don’t give momes the ball back you can’t give momes that one thing we know about the sport is don’t give and I’m wondering if next year Brady’s gonna be bitter all year calling these

Games because he’s going to be like don’t erase me that fast don’t I was the best at that don’t erase me at being winner guy that quickly I just did it a couple of years ago Dan he has four more Super Bowls to win like the notion that

Patrick Mahomes he’s had a great six years perhaps it’s been better than Brady but it’s already being done there’s no way that whoever’s doing it is stupid do I have this wrong do you think Brady’s not watching this and listening to everybody can you guys slow down on erasing me because you’re

Already saying Mahomes is the best at this I I was just playing a couple of years ago I mean Brady’s career got off to a weird start in that he had this sort of start that Patrick Mahomes you could say Patrick Mahomes eclips that start and then for Brady’s what should

Be his prime he didn’t win a Super Bowl yeah like we’ve we’ve gone through the set that Wes Walker found a way to not win a Super Bowl with with Manning and Brady he went a really long stretch with other teams going in there and winning the thing and I think that just

Expecting Patrick Mahomes to replicate something that we’ve never seen before is still a bridge too far is Brady a compiler oh boy stop it what are you doing I’m just I’m just I’m just asking the question yeah he compiled Rings he compiled rings but like he played until

He was 57 or whatever right and then like also was he ever the best quarterback in the league yeah the one year he didn’t win yeah well did he ever win MVP is what you’re saying no but MVP doesn’t mean he was the best in the league did

Anyone ever look at Tom Brady and say this is the best quarterback CU I don’t you’re not going to do this today know he’s got a point we did like ah pton Manning Tom Brady and then we did Aaron Rogers Tom Brady and then we did Pat

Mahomes Tom Brady see what I’m saying I think people called him that when he went 2-0 against Patrick Mahomes they were wrong he wasn’t the better quarterback he’s a three-time MVP yeah but the the cool thing about Tom Brady is that from his skill set from I

Get the point that he was making what you do against that because Tom Brady even though being the best quarterback of all time and playing in the the greatest era of quarterbacks of all time was never identified as the most skilled see he could be the greatest of all time

But he was never the greatest you know what he was the greatest at Billy winning yeah put his rings in a box put everybody else’s rings in a box see how they shake up years but that defense I mean you know he beat Patrick Mahomes in Arrowhead as a patriot he beat Patrick

Mahomes in the Super Bowl as a buck I’m asking you guys do you think that Tom Brady is going to be bitterly calling all of mahomes’s games the rest of the way saying from the booth going out of his way to crush he’s already told us

The sport is now mediocre as soon as he retired he thought now will Brady be a hot take artist in old age that just skewers Patrick Mahomes and says you’re not as good as me kid do it in Carolina if you go by PFF rankings between 2010 and 2020 he was

The highest rated quarterback three times uh Tom Brady was right he’s great year he wasn’t seven times though so if he’s 30% I mean that’s an f um stat I wanted to talk about what happened last night with the Miami Heat and the Bucks because um what what’s

Happening with Milwaukee is I is funny I mean Doc Rivers has now returned heroically they had a coup and now they’re terrible and the heat go in there and win by 30 and without Jimmy Butler without Jimmy Butler well this is another conversation or point guard look

Yeah no point guard no Jimmy Butler all those Damen Lillard assets look pretty good so in one game it’s a one game sample but I now have three seasons of sample on what I’m about to say and I can’t believe that Duncan Robinson is this dude but evidently Duncan Robinson

Helps in a way that’s unusual in the way that he spaces the floor and the big three of hero and Butler and Bam when they’re together stugots they’re really mediocre but when one of them’s out they go to the finals a couple of times and and and you have to sit one of

The three each night I mean uh well some of them are hurt often and when they get hurt the he’d play better and it’s a little bit strange and Duncan Robinson is now a key piece and I want to play some video and the audio is not great on

This but I want I want you to watch some trash talk here between Duncan Robinson and Jaylen Brown because Duncan Robinson Stant has become somebody who has in in front of all of us has improved in a way that’s kind of crazy he has he has now

Got a multifaceted game and he doesn’t mind going at it with Jaylen Brown and I didn’t think I didn’t think a couple of a bubble ago when Duncan Robinson was a to be playing with LeBron James I didn’t think he had this in Him [Applause] [Applause] you’re not like that I will tell the audio a audience if you’re listening to the podcast you wouldn’t believe what he said was you can imagine how good it was as sound that you weren’t reading but the end of that after 30 seconds was uh

The Dismount where Duncan Robinson said to Jaylen Brown at at fighting time you’re not that guy you’re not like that you’re not like that what coming from Duncan is that a t is that a takes one to no one type of thing it’s like hey

I’m at that you’re not that guy guy pal meeting we have it every quarter and I see you there we’re at the same you’re not that guy pal meeting I don’t want to fight I know you don’t want to fight we don’t want to fight I mean Dan you know

What’s happening right now though Duncan is getting a little bit of that dog in him we’re slowly we’re slowly getting to a place where that dog is coming out uh can we have the broader conversation of how it is that they’re better when one

Of the guys is out you don’t want to dig deep on the his dog is coming out situation no dog more to that bone don’t we all want more dogs on the heat right that dog that bone people this is a moment of reflection for Jaylen Brown

You just got told by dun Robinson you’re not that guy pal in Black History Month come on that what February Duncan Robinson told you you’re not that guy pal you’re not that guy you’re not that guy no matter what month it is oh look at this a meeting of two guys that are

Not that guy Scary Terry hurt yes got to sack these winds before he comes back o real difficult navigating that a slalom course uh Billy I don’t know how you feel because you keep your fandom well concealed and so uh I think that the last couple of days as an

Economics gut punch that the Marlins losing Jorge Solera I know I know nobody cares about baseball allegedly I care about baseball and I’ve been heartbroken pitchers and catchers Dan and great day back opening day at the light on Friday New Jersey Institute of Technology it’s a bad day to be injit

Got get a shake nit I don’t know if you care about players anymore that way Billy but once upon a time Solair hitting 35 homers being on the cheap you can keep him he wants to stay here you don’t have to give him that much and

Then the giant swoop in and give him three years $40 million and the Marlins can’t play the money game with the Braves and the dodg or anybody or the Phillies or the Mets or anybody they’ll lose Solair even a guy who wants to be here and I’m wondering if it hurts or if

You just shrug your shoulders and say well we’re going to lose the division to the Braves for 10 years anyway so what difference does it make yeah I mean closer to that I mean not that he wasn’t the missing piece that was going to have

Them win the NL East so you know it kind of felt like he wasn’t going to be coming back regardless it’s just a matter of time before he went somewhere so but then don’t you have to feel like you’re doomed to an eternity of we’re not going to compete I felt like that

Since 1993 that’s always been my feeling I’m used to this I mean Bell and burger are coming back so and they they fix the black uniforms yeah white font now yeah but then Nike ruin the uniforms but at least the the black on black is gone

Some white font on the black Unis you know exactly right some blue ones when you’re a Marlins fan Dan you just ate the small victories I mean that’s it playoff team last season yeah that was good all right good now there’s new management a GM now and uh you know

Didn’t get the message that we have to be signing players but but you have one we have one exactly right easing into the position peas and seas I imagine when they show up on the field today and they realize there’s no one there because they didn’t sign anyone they’ll

Realize oh oh we got assign people and then they’ll fill out the roster so I’m not too worried at the moment they’re the only team without pitchers and catchers reporting maybe an empty field when they get there where piers and where are catchers just a couple of equipment guys

And somebody sprinkling the field and a Fungo that’s what remains of our baseball team while while Otani is paid $700 million somewhere else it’s a lot of money too much way too much you’re not mad at cheater cheater’s gone what am I say mad hold grudges for it was a grift

It was all a grift you didn’t know that Dan from the moment he said I’m paying myself 5 million until I recoup my investment you didn’t know it was a grip I was happy at the time I thought that he was getting Samson out of my life but apparently he’s coming up

Next He Is We got to talk to him about those uniforms didn’t Nike just get embarrassed Nike is uh really getting hit with it on social media because they’ve changed the design on these uniforms and Major League Baseball authentic uniforms now look cheap and the players are kind of really up upet

About it everyone’s upset about this and I’m it looks like Nike may have to do a recall there is business stuff to talk about with Samson we’re going to do it next David Samson was not with us in Vegas I have not talked to him I’m guessing he’s not terribly happy about

All of that I should say and I don’t think metalark did a very good job of celebrating that David Samson was our biggest Award winner last year his podcasts were voted best of uh his singular podcast he doesn’t have have multiple podcasts one best of in two categories best baseball podcast and

Best sports business podcast so congratulations David I’m sorry that metal Arc has failed to celebrate you in the way that it should no I felt great watching all of your live shows and watching everyone having the best time I especially enjoyed watching gu guu and Lucy play

Craps with Chris knowing that that’s my thing I think I would not have added anything to your time other than amazing connections having been going to Vegas for over 30 years uh well yes you are a bit of a celebrity in Vegas are you not you’re somebody who can you do have all

The contacts in Vegas do you not I’m I wouldn’t say celebrity I would say I just have access and I have the ability to do a lot of fun stuff with a lot of fun people with people who I enjoy working with and spending time with and

It was quite a bit of uh of fomo in that you guys absolutely nailed it I’m thrilled but I will tell you that I can certainly have been additive to what you were doing uh is anyone in particular the source of your ey yeah you’re in charge it was

Obviously your decision to not have me there it’s not as though metal AR didn’t spend money I would have covered my own expenses by the way only in that I generally stay complimentary and the plane ticket wasn’t an issue but it wasn’t even offered as a possibility and

Given the amount of investment you made I wasn’t asking to be on your show the whole time but maybe as a guest for 12 minutes maybe I just would have gone to a team dinner or enjoy listening to Greg and Jeremy in the heiw 7 it would have

Been fantastic huh but I’m over it it’s done what’s done what’s done is done uh it doesn’t seem like you’re over it though and it seems like there’s a whole lot of ice there’s a whole lot of ice in the other room as far as I can tell and

It seems like it’s just my fault well I I just would say that I’ve been sitting here since 9 o’ so I’ll start with that and uh I’m good everything’s fine ready to go what what do you want to talk about today nothing personal is the award-winning podcast uh the thing that

I want to talk about among many others is uh what you made of the Super Bowl audience the idea that it would be the highest rated television show ever that there would $50 million of bonus advertising from the game just going into uh overtime the business of the

Super Bowl what were the most interesting parts of it to you well what a risk by having the Super Bowl in Vegas to start with and what I was concerned and you heard Joe talk about it Boomer Sison mentioned it just the possibility of something bad happening because Vegas

Is a place that of extremes where there’s greatness and there’s absolute the stuff that Nightmares come from and I would say the NFL came pretty much unscathed there was one early arrest by a Raiders player but you can dismiss that he was in the parking in the valet

DUI and he lives there or he plays there but in terms of the actual Super Bowl nothing there were no you know per walks nothing like that that was a positive then of course you had the game and what Paramount did CBS had the game where they announced the $123 million two days

Later just yesterday they announced a bunch of layoffs and I think that what’s important to note is the number of people who watch the game doesn’t correlate to earnings per share or to an increase in the stock price of a merged company and at the end of the day it is

Just business the timeing people are questioning but you would never fire people before Vegas because they have work to do Now’s the Time that you would let people go it’s obviously unfortunate but with consolidation with merging comes layoffs and it has nothing to do with how many people watch the Super

Bowl at all they could pay their CEO less they could do that too so that is the so that is true and Metar could pay you less and then you could give raises to everybody I mean they but at the end of the day that’s not how it works in

The real world it reminds me of the Jack Nicholson line in Broadcast News when John cac’s sister Jones says you know we could avoid all these layoffs if you just take a pay cut and she gets ushered away like removed from the scene because that’s not how it works you don’t have

Anchors or owners or the top talents take less the people who suffer are the middle class and the lower class and that happens not just on TV or off TV it happens in every business no matter what products you’re making David have you ever had a manager

Ever at any point in your uh your career in Major League Baseball that didn’t know the rules that you were paying him to know are you talking about Kyle Shanahan not knowing the overtime rules yes and then saying no no we actually went through with the analytics department

And we wanted the ball first y cuz that’s that’s the story he’s sticking with M and I believe that there is no scenario under which Kyle shanan did not know the overtime rules we’ve had players not know rules we’ve had players not know signs and what you do is you

Just tell the player what the signs are when he’s on base but I’ve never had a manager not know a rule except when something strange can happen during a game and that’s not a game going to Extra Innings or overtime we had a rule book in The Suite with the GM we would

Have a rule book and when we saw something happen we’d go down to the clubhouse and we would get in contact with the manager when there was a dispute or a question about a rule but something as ordinary as a postseason overtime game no excuse for not knowing

And they did the second thing when a rule change like that happens like in baseball you get a separate memo before the season starts of all of the new rule changes and you post that in the clubhouse doesn’t matter if the players read it or not but the manager has a

Laminated copy of it on his desk at all times and we have one in the Dugout so like with challenges remember when the challenge started and you didn’t know what’s challengeable what’s not more MOS right there more memos is what we need that’s what we need more memos more

Laminated M explanation there’s no way that Shanahan didn’t know the rules they made a decision it didn’t work and what what Jessica and Stu said is exactly right in this first segment that I wasn’t on it’s that all he had to do was come out and say that’s exactly what we

Intended to do but we gave up a touchdown and we would have had a third possession if we had held them to a field goal it didn’t work out that should have been his what do you think the reason is for not going over the rules with his team because while he’s

Saying on one side of his mouth that he went through went through that scenario with his analytics Department he admitted that he didn’t talk to uh the players about this rule change and you had players that were on that field totally uh obvious to it I’ve never gone

Over rules with players we never do we read them the gambling rule before the season starts cuz we’re told to by the CBA and by baseball we don’t go over what plays are challengeable or what aren’t that’s why in baseball you see players challenge or you see them go

Like this and they don’t know how many challenges you have left or when or what can be challenged in far as San Francisco is concerned here’s the rule you need to know don’t give up touchdowns that’s it that’s all you need to tell your defense

Okay I wish we’d just known it’s such a simple piece it’s such a simple piece of coaching do I have this right do you believe have you said on nothing personal that you believe that Travis Kelce is a menace who needs anger management yeah I did a whole segment I

Was I would have and and this is not going to be popular first of all I was upset with CBS and and I and I can say this even though I do work for them they showed Kelsey and Reed and then they never met mentioned it again and I never

Saw a camera did Reed go talk to Kelsey and I didn’t remember did Kelsey sit out a series what were the ramifications of what Kelsey did to Reed during that game because they both covered it up after they won the game I’ll tell you that

Saying no all is great and loving War I love him he loves me that sort of behavior is unacceptable and it certainly gives you an eye into that level of anger now is it caused by over caffeination being over Caff ated before a game are people sort of like the

Incredible Hulk during a football game in order to psych themselves up whatever no excuse for what he did but I believe that CBS and I believe that the Chiefs gave him an out because of Travis Kelce because of Taylor Swift and they didn’t want to ruffle any feathers and I would

Have benched him I would have had him gone for once come on Ser if a baseball player attacks a manager physically during a game you don’t think he’s taken out of the game I do think race is playing a factor here because I remember the weeks of shows people did when Odell Beckham

Jr kicked a field goal net and this is the second time Travis Kelce has thrown a helmet this is the first time he’s bumped his quarterback and I do think if that were say cadarius Tony it’d be processed way differently by everybody this is what AJ Brown said as well uh

But you’re not you’re saying it’s being well undercovered is what you’re saying you’re saying can you imagine the story if if Reed had benched him and they’d lost the Super Bowl are you out of your mind David uh no I’m not out of my mind because you’ve got a team of 50 players

Who are watching what Travis Kelce did in saying oh I guess he can do that you don’t want to treat it’s not as though Kel’s not being treated differently already with all the Ridiculousness around Taylor but David they’re also watching Kelsey on the field perform and

They’re saying oh I can’t do that and so there is a sliding scale to this where David I’m going to take you back to 2003 okay if Derek Lee punches Jack mcken in the face he’s not benching him but if morai does he’s probably getting benched

You’re wrong we did it Pudge we did it to Pudge benched Pudge for being disrespectful to his teammates and to Jack mcken we benched him go back and look at the game by game in the Super Bowl in the World Series no he didn’t do

It in the World Series but if he had done it in the World Series David if he had done it in the World Series he’s not getting benched I would have taken him out of the G if he attacked Jack mcken I would have taken him out of the game

Played Redmond and then let Pudge play the next game is it worth losing a championship to prove a point to discipline a player David yes and I by the way I don’t believe they would have lost the championship by benching Kelce for a series and maybe they did what just happened there what

Just happened I mean there’s a quite the drop off between Travis Kelce and Noah Gray there is David I I did something happen did we lose service it’s you I think I left you speechless you’re sacrificing a championship to make a larger point we’re mystified I’m not sacrificing a

Championship you’re you’re not framing it right if Kelsey sits for a series they don’t necessarily lose that game oh so you’re just sitting in a series okay I I would have sat him for a series and maybe they did I should have benched him for the

Game he did is inexcusable and no one talks about it cuz no one wants to upset Taylor it’s a joke you think that’s the reason no one’s talking about it that we’re afraid of of setting Taylor Swift I’m I’m you’re not talking about because you don’t want to be on the unpopular

Side of any issues like this you don’t realize there what if someone in your container attacked you Dan what if someone attacked you right now you’re not going to put them in the quote unquote real Penalty Box give me a break um all right I’m going to I’m going to

Imagine I’m going to show in the next segment what it would look like if mcken was in a fight before the game I am going to apologize about 30 minutes too late to the audio only audience for that 30 seconds of Jaylen Brown Duncan Robinson trash talk that didn’t sound like

Anything because there was no sound because it was mostly subtitles uh and in so doing I may lose a portion of the a audience again here as I show again for the second day one of my favorite videos Pedro Martinez fighting with Don Zimmer and Don Zimmer rolls out forehead

First uh to fight with Pedro Pedro got into a lot of controversy where Mike says that race is involved because that Dominican young man threw him B down to the floor by his ears The Lovable bald Don Zimmer and now stugotz has Jack mcken in a fight because David Samson I

I want to address address this very quickly with you David uh you are saying flatly you’re not saying you would you’re saying some sort of discipline to show who’s in charge but not enough discipline to actually cost myself the game that’s the tight rope that I’m

Willing to walk okay but you walked your position back some because benching him for the game would be even more badass and show show who’s in charge all the more but would be even dumber that having a coach not know the rules in a Super Bowl you said it during a Super

Bowl or World Series game for a regular season game it’s not even a question if Kelsey does that and I don’t mean throwing of the helmet I’m talking about physically touching the coach he’s gone for the game at least but David going back to your 03 team that won the World

Series if Becket during the World Series touches Jack McKean he’s not coming out you’re not taking him out Jack’s not taking him out Brad Penny different story you would skip a start for penny with a smile on your face okay Penny was good po Penny was good was really good

For those of you who may not remember so the answer is you have to we had conversations like this because we had to have it about Hanley Ramirez who was really a problem for us in the clubhouse and we had to figure out what to do with

Him and one of the things we did was was Bench him and one of the things we did with Pudge when he disappeared during 03 and then he reappeared Jack said to us and we agreed I’m not playing him and Jeffrey said you’ve got to play him we

Want to win these games and Jack said if you really want to win as a team you’ve got to show the rest of the team that you’re not going to let the Superstar dictate the terms Travis Kelce is he a first ballot Hall of Famer maybe but he

Is way more if you don’t think that he’s more in the news don’t diminish don’t diminish Kelsey’s credentials first ballot Hall of Famer so first ballot Hall of Famer do you agree that he is more in the spotlight because of his relationship right now yeah yeah naturally yes okay therefore there is a

Different standard you’re putting on what happened during that Super Bowl because it was the Super Bowl and because it was Travis Kelsey and Mike’s not wrong if that had been a different player if that had been a black player who had done that and the and there had

Been some sort of ramification for that we’re having a totally different discussion and I would like to have the discussion based on how you don’t lose your Clubhouse and again CBS didn’t show us do we know for sure that Travis Kelce didn’t sit for a series I don’t know the

Answer to that feel like it would have been pointed out but um either way nothing was pointed out it was left it was left nothing was said yeah that’s a that’s a kind of capital that Travis Kel has bought with people because of his career I want to switch gears uh quickly

Because I want to get your opinion on whether or not Nike’s going to have to do a uniform recall because players are really upset that the customizable options on pants are gone and consumers the people that love to buy MLB merchandise if you’ve seen the new uniforms and we’ll throw some uh some

Comparisons between last year’s on the left and this year’s on the right these new new MLB uniforms look really cheap really cheap and I think that the reaction to this has been so toxic that we might actually see uniforms being pulled this year David what is your take

On uh the the new uniform controversy so you’re catching me a little bit and we’re live so I think I’m right but someone can do a fact check with the 40 people working there Fanatics does the uniforms licensed the Nike Swoosh to put on them correct and I don’t believe

They’re manufactured by Nike that so everybody wanted to take the opportunity to jump down fanatic’s throat because Fanatics is a very polarizing entity but the specs were provided by nikee Darren rll has done reporting on this even a a Twitter account by the name of fanatic suck which exists because they want to

Slam dunk every day uh of making fun of Fanatics they put the blame over on Nike because Nike provides these specs and it doesn’t matter who who manufactures it they’re just following the lead from Nike yes they are licensing the swoosh but the design everything was provided

By Nike so this is all done over a year in advance it all gets approved it all gets manufactured and the specs get given to the lenses who then make the uniforms there is zero chance that all the uniforms will be pulled and new uniforms will be made and then sent to

All the teams prior to the regular season these will be the uniforms I draw your attention to when the Marlins switch uniforms everyone complains when every team switches uniforms the majority of people are negative and you just get through it so I don’t think there will be any change because what do

You do with all these uniforms MLB is not going to eat it Fanatics is not going to eat it yeah and so you’re left with this inventory and they’re not going to write it off I hear you although I feel pretty strongly now that I should put some action on these

Uniforms being recalled because of uh your passion here but the players are coming out and saying the are bad it’s one thing if no one cares if something it doesn’t carry any additional weight if the players are complaining about it no would you agree that it looks

Terrible H I would agree that I couldn’t read the names on the back of the Marlins uniforms but those got approved by everybody and now they’re changed I understand from your first segment I hadn’t seen them but that’s outstanding that they’re now changed do I think that

They look worse this year I personally do but a big part of the uniforms I haven’t felt them yet and the players are very concerned about how they feel what sort of the wicking is and then sizing because some players when we go through sizing with new players this is

A funny little story if you have a minute we spend time with players who we acquire figuring out what size they like do they like their pants to be tight like Stanton always would have special issued undershirts that he would do his interviews in that were so tight that he

That he would wear my size right but one of the the chief complaints here David one of the chief complaints here is that those customizable options aren’t afforded to players now so we you you they are because what you do is we have seam seamsters seam seams um people

Seamstress in the system there it’s okay seamstresses yes I got we have to play that back arees only women because ours are men so I didn’t know whether it was a seamster anyway is it a tayor you can say Kitman it is a Kitman we have a bunch of

People in the clubhouse who are altering uniforms all the time so I’m not worried about players not having the size they want you don’t care at all what the players think about anything in this scenario like the players about uniforms no the playersi well but I mean this is

Deeply personal though David they’re they’re playing for eight hours a day they’re in clothing they’d like it to be something they they collectively bargain everything with you it needs to look decent it can’t look cheap like if if major if the players union wants something like this to look better if

The complaints are loud enough you don’t get to just be right on this they’ll wear what we tell them to wear they will but what a dream if there’s a negotiation where the players want to collectively bargain that they’ve got a say over the uniforms and they’re willing to give up something Financial

For that then I guarantee you players will have a say over what uniforms look like it’s not without precedent it’s not without precedent in other sports with the unions not strong enough remember they change basketballs and you might want to say okay well that’s what they play the sport with so you can

Understand that but remember players rebelled against the sleeves that Adidas uh W was creating for basketball LeBron went as far as to tear sleeves off of his uniform and they stopped manufacturing those it did take some time what are you shaking your head about Samson I’m laughing because yes

There are moments that that players like to take stands on certain things we’ve had players take stands on what they wear under the uniform because that is also a rule we tell the players what they can wear underneath and what can be shown and now there’s going to be rules

I’m sure about having batting gloves hanging out of your back pocket because God forbid that ever gets tagged but I don’t have never seen a baseball player take a stand like a LeBron James I I don’t even know who which baseball player would have that type of ability

It’s not judge it’s not trout it’s not anybody who would have that level of power it’s not Max Scherer I can’t think of anybody Bry Harper who would no absolutely not no client of Scott Boris would get anything done with Major League Baseball all right again with

Scott Boris I want here are your options because we’ve only got three minutes left and I know I could get you going on Boris he’s got a bunch of clients who are still available as spring training begins you love to hate on Boris is there anyone you hate more and is it

Because he’s better at business than you are no it’s because he screwed Jose Fernandez’s family I respected him when I negotiated against him because he got he got an owner to always give in and he generally always got his players what they wanted but when he crocodile teared at Jose’s

Funeral that was it I would never there is no coming back from that there’s no coming back from not properly being in touch or taking care of the family ever since and just walking away from them there’s no coming back and I don’t I’m not a Grudge holder I don’t have this

Level of visceral anger toward anyone else in my life as I do for him because I know him well enough and I know what he did and I know exactly what is happening in the world of Jose’s family and I can’t forgive it I just won’t what

If he were to say to you hey David it’s nothing personal I I’d say thanks for watching the show which I know he has his people watch and listen to every show and that makes me smile uh let’s play the clip for David here on on him trying to

Figure out whether he should say seamstress or something else is we have seam seamsters seam Str seems um whoa so great finally it wasn’t me that’s the world we live in where I need to be worried about not upsetting anyone with the word seamstress uh you didn’t need to worry

About that but you did Play It Again in his face you didn’t need to have seam seamsters seam strps seems um why don’t you stop complaining about the world you live in and just say it right because did you know that there’s no male version of seamstress well I

Didn’t know the rules of overtime either but it didn’t make me stop criticizing Kyle Shanahan now did Shanahan he knew the rules he did not 30 seconds or less what are you reviewing oh 30 seconds for Society of the snow and whether or not you halfway done

Hold on hold on just stop right there do your review and JuJu will put it out on social by itself because you don’t want to be limited that limited to 30 seconds uh nothing personal is the podcast if you want 50 daily minutes uh they are rocket fueled with David Samson every uh

Every morning thank you David take care it’s 4 we have seam seamsters seam seams um whoa broke my heart a little bit this morning when he came in and it felt like love was a little broken for him because he asked the group with a Sly smile on his face it’s a private

Conversation wend do you stopped caring about Valentine’s Day oh boy it’s a private conversation amongst you know colleagues well now we’re here because it broke my heart not friends there are no private conversations around Dan lebatard there or not you know this have you have you stopped

Carrying or no I’m just curious if everyone else had stopped carrying I saw I saw Dan if we’re just daring things out I saw Dan yesterday was walking to the elevator walking in this Direction with a giant wrapped thing in hearts that I I didn’t know did you wrap that

Yourself uh no Elise uh Elise wrapped it but I trick I trick my wife every uh every giftgiving time into thinking that I have wrapped them but I of course I have not wrapped them I don’t rap well it’s a he play um have you deliver the

Gifts already like how do you do Valentine’s Day do you wake up your wife and then you have like all of the gifts there or what’s I have I have learned I will tell you this I did not know the importance of these things uh I did not

Have any access to sort of the idea of treating something as silly as a contrived commercial holiday into a reminder uh that I love her but why would I not remind her as often as I can I’m very happy with her and so I have learned yes before I left the house

Today I left an assortment of things out that if she had woken up earlier she would have gotten to but I had to leave before she could open them you’re still new to the game you are uh that will stop it will stop in a few years and how

About you tell her you love her on Thursday yeah that sound I do yes I do but I tell her more on the appointed days look man it’s been a rough go for her for the last two years and I could not be more appreciative in all the ways

Of the way that she loves me and so if I can show her in some small way on a day that’s commercially meant for it I’ll do it how small no I wasn’t small no I’m a good Gift Giver my my heart was broken yesterday because I I like to get

My wife Valentine’s Day gifts they’re not the traditional teddy bears and Roses I think we’ve kind of outgrown that I like to give my wife things like shoes and and University Miami stuff that I know that she appreciates so I got her these shoes that she said she

Really liked and I went to go put them in her closet we have separate closets and I put it in the closet and I was reminded of a pair that I bought her two years ago that I told totally forgot about and I put these shoes next to that

And the laces still hadn’t been done on the shoes that I bought her two years ago for Valentine’s Day that was a bit crushing huh would seem that she doesn’t like the University of Miami apparel well these were the these were like Golden State Warrior uh Jordan 1es the

The the royal blue and gold so really excited like I got them screen cap type of thing it was a big Nike drop two years ago and I was really excited to give it to her I totally forgotten that the pair existed because she hadn’t been

Wearing it and she’s gone so far as to care so little that she hasn’t even laced them up I bought this pair two years ago but you’re a you’re a huge romantic are you not doesn’t sound like this is a bad example of um Gear Well

You may you should buy them in your size just in case you chooses not to wear them then you can use that’ be odd yeah I don’t think she can fit in the tws but yeah no I’m I’m hugely romantic but you know this is our 20th 20 plus

Valentine’s Day together I’m I’m struggling to to find something that captures the essence of romance here I save that for every day you know I I just love her every day but this is one of those days in the calendar that you’re supposed to give gifts um I don’t

Receive gifts on Valentine’s Day I don’t I don’t ask for one I I don’t expect them it’s her day the greatest gift that I give my wife every single year is the gift of no sex it’s I mean never seen her happier why did you roll your eyes

At that Jessica every year the same joke I haven’t even stop there was a call and repeat we said it here before I I would like great GI try it out I would like as as a gift as an appropriate try it out I’m I on behalf

Of our show I’m about to give Jessica a Valentine’s Day gift she bakes around here she makes some delicious things for us and uh the gift I’m going to give her and I’m promising her this every year for the rest of time is a sound on the

Show that she has never heard before that we are going to introduce her to that is in the news terrible gift and MERS I’m going to give her the I’m going to give her the gift of laughter right here you guys don’t know us the Nicks the Nicks about you stop

Talking about my relationship the so when does Love Die did we get an answer officially on this somewhere between my relationship and your relationship we’re doing Valentine’s Day what are you guys doing well Leman said he was going to surprise me but then he told me right

Before you Dro me off what we were going to do what is it what is it taking me out to lunch after the show with the doggies nice do you like surprises would you have preferred it as Sur when there’s a surprise but I find out what

The surprise is beforehand when did he say it was a surprise last night when I asked him when he dropped me off I said what are we doing for Valentine’s Day and he said it’s a surprise but I’ll tell you classic line so he gave you the

Perfect gift this is what you want to be doing he told you you have enough control of the situation that you you’re getting it on your terms and it’s sort of a surprise his idea but it was a surprise but it wasn’t a surprise did you guys see the episode of curb this

Week where they it was su’s birthday where this is like I’m wondering Leman did this situation where you know he’s like it’s a surprise and then you’re like what’s a surprise and then he says what the surprise is and then tries to gauge whether this is good enough

Surprise for you a great he has all day long while you’re at work to figure out what else do I need to get for Jess last year he got me this guy FTI Valentine’s Day shirt which was also a surprise and now I’m wearing it this year you guys

Think it’s GI from me to her but you don’t even know what the sound is because I’m going to give her the gift of laughter the Nicks are going to win this protest and there’s going to be extra game played because there’s going it’s not going to be one of these

Two-minute reports they’re going to win a protest cuz the call guy I know Billy doesn’t agree with this but Ed Malloy was in the middle of this and I just asked Jessica have you ever heard our Ed Malloy sound and her response was no so here is the end of a Timberwolves game

And it’s what we know as a show of Ed Maloy by two 198 inbound to love on the left side with one dribble goes up for the shot it’s blocked by Maran the ball comes into the arms of dalar the horn sounds and the ball game is over the

Timberwolves are screaming for a foul there was none called Rubio off to love oh that’s a foul that is unbelievable referees are booed as they go off the floor brutal David Guthrie is right there he didn’t have the guts to call it also no my Lord what a

Gift it stands a test of time it really does better than lunch with your boyfriend I’m I’m more excited for lunch to be honest and the guy Fetti t-shirt I can’t believe it sorry and the thing Mike gave me what a he gave us gave everybody a Valentine’s Day present Mike Mike you’re

You were trying to be thoughtful and everyone then sat on their shirts tell the people what you tried to give everybody here was a very thoughtful gift yeah I had a friend that works for AFC Bournemouth and he he gifted everybody on the show customized ch’s no

Matter your team we still root for Jim frola hopefully future ad at the University of Miami we all root for Jim faola and the fighting super cherries H can you guys tell me whether anybody other than the Chiefs and the kelse look at this pathetic pile of

Jerseys that has just been those are the people that aren’t here to claim their jerseys that’s what Happ super cherries mean someone fold those at least it’s a lovely gift those are lovely jerseys people would like to have those jerseys we’ve got just a big pile

Of them in the other room with our names on them apparently no one wants them The Ultimate Gift will be when you try to squeeze in into an Umbro oh I wanted to ask the group whether anyone other than momes and the Chiefs and the Kelsey won the Super Bowl

Weekend business more than Dunkin Donuts more than more than Dunkin Donuts giving you a commercial that spans Generations that grabs some Nostalgia that is funny and then they release gear that sells out and then they release the four-minute commercial that has JLo and Matt Damon in it and I I’m genuinely

Curious because there were a lot of people making a lot of money on Sunday did Dunkin Donuts win the entire advertising spec spectacle or did someone else win it I knew about Dunkin Donuts beforehand I didn’t know about temu and I didn’t know about uh Cave I knew that there was

A lotion but I thought that now I I I spotted it in the the supermarket the other day I’m like oh that’s Michael Sarah’s cream I’d also say good point Mike they lost cuz they’ve been just dunking for like 5 years already and we’re still just calling them Dunkin

Donuts wait what yeah your name I didn’t know that yeah American runs on dun they dropped the donuts mhm so they didn’t win the weekend somebody else won the weekend I thought everyone loved that commercial everyone did and the the tracksuits uh sold out um but uh I mean

We all they they had brand recognition I I I was introduced to several brands in the Super Bowl so isn’t that the point of spending that much money so I think that they won and then people were like I want these tracksuits and then Darren Revel tweeted out that had one yesterday

And then everyone was looking up the exchange policy on theack just kind of like a weird yeah it’s a weird like win and it’s so great and you saw his stuff and it’s like oh all right Juju put it on put it on the poll yet respectfully respectfully Juju

Put it on the poll respectfully is Darren Rell a boner killer I would say de influencer but you can go with that too hell yeah did anyone that looks good on him I’m not going to lie but I wouldn’t wear it now oh really oh well it was a bucket of

Death punishment for us like yesterday we planned that out but well now it’s an actual punishment yeah kind of that’s how quickly something goes from popular to unpopular re as soon as reel wears it really so if he could get it before you you no longer want it that’s wrong

That’s wrong look at you look the cool kids back there uh I I thought it was someone mentioning your grandma mid-stroke unless you’re trying to hold it down what what Valentine’s Day ladies and gentlemen what do you want me to do oh yeah no I’ve been there I’ve been there

You want to impress and then can you keep those thoughts to yourself no you get dead writing things down now no you you’ve been there big day you want to impress next thing you know you’re n ining baseball game we need to do breathing exercises again

I mean yes can we can someone lead us in breathing exercises because you’ve never been there having sex and then try to go through all the Killer Bees of the Astros DK Bill you’re just trying to put on a show over here B well people forget

About Belle they do he’s the forgot he’s the Forgotten bee I’m stunned that that was moving so fast for stugots that he didn’t even notice Tony thought about Derrick Bell and then I came quicker he didn’t even notice Tony’s unless you’re trying to keep it down it’s an Unstoppable Force sometimes

Especially on that Ma come on three days after the Super Bowl Mike Ryan tossed the molotov cocktail of race into the proceedings wondering whether or not Travis Kelce if he had been black and bumped Andy Reid whether the reaction would have been different the way that AJ Brown was suggesting and of

Course it would be it’s just funny that what we’re presently in the middle of because it has been Sanctified by Taylor Swift she is the halo over this like TBO was the halo over the Gator’s huddle that concealed a murderer the idea that a rage fueled tight end would trample his coach and

That his drunken brother was shirtless everywhere all over Las Vegas if that family was overrunning football and the pop star and weren’t what that family is it would be received far differently the whole the whole experience Jason Kelce dominated the Super Bowl people wanted to see that dadbod careening from

Holding kids to to Galloping in his pajamas through the airport on the way back to you know wherever it is that he’s coming from because he just did seven days of God knows what drinking nonstop partying with his brother drinking liberally from Fame chastising his brother for not inventing the fade

And having that be a New York Times article as Black History Month starts because everyone’s new to the Kelsey party but can when does drunken drunken brother ever get to be a part of the grift drunken brother on the side loved by everybody maybe more popular politics yeah Billy Carter and Jimmy

Carter is the only place I remember that being a blight on Jimmy Carter’s I remember that being RFK like Kennedy’s yeah W like it’s it’s it’s a it’s a political Mains say really she’s super American everyone loves Jason Kel got going on Hunter adjacent Jason Kelce is

Lovable is he not yes yeah super lovable relatable yes what happened Billy it’s too much already what I it just too much what do you mean you guys aren’t tired of him Jason I mean yeah he’s stealing his brother shine no he’s not yeah he is he’s grifting off Taylor here he’s he’s

In the background of all these videos he’s being drunk yeah he’s in the background wrestling mask on yeah he’s someone that just wants to be a supporting role Taylor and Travis are in the background then the camera pans to the foreground and guess who’s there in a Rey myal mask next someone that

Doesn’t want to be seen look at him he just wants to fade into the background front and center exactly right he’s just there to support are jealous you’ve never had this good of a time in your life true nor will I ever no I will not

It seems like Jason Kelce and Travis are enjoying the holy hell out of life I’m curious whether now the relationship gets real for Taylor and Jason as they have to spend time around each other well Taylor and Travis yeah Travis Excuse me yes unless know something we unless she’s spending too

Much time around Jason which also might be a wake up call Y why is it that older brother Jason is giving off so much Dad compared to Travis how is it that he seems so much old is it just the hairy it’s not just the gut it’s the

Hairy gut that the fact that the gut is hairy the fact that he’s a dad too yes dads are always hairy I don’t know why it’s true I always think of dads I think of Harry I don’t know guys you guys know that we’re still not right from Vegas

All of us are still broken I’m not sure how sober Jessica still is Vegas with kids are you out of your mind Vegas the way Jason Kelsey just did it even with all the help in the world my God that man must be tired right now you know how

When you’re in Vegas they pump like the oxygen through the casinos and stuff to keep you awake and you kind of start is that what it was you guys didn’t know that is that like an old wi’s tail is that no no no that’s true there’s no

Clocks and they pump in oxygen yeah like the people not using cocaine no windows they don’t give you windows so you can’t see outside exactly and you just kind of feel like you’re in this weird kind of fog this weird Haze I still feel that way and at this point I’m wondering if

I’m just getting sick yeah I don’t feel right all of us are coughing again the flight lights back red eyes from Vegas are the worst beans as an appetizer I don’t know why they would do that I don’t I don’t know how to experience Vegas with children but I would say a

Good way to do it is with an opair yes I’m I’m guessing that they had substantive help but I also saw him I didn’t see them at excess I saw him at Disney holding kids he’s carrying weights all the time that’s an appropriate place for a child excess they

Card I saw him with his kids a lot I also saw him with uh Patrick not Patrick mom his brother uh Jacks Jackson he was uncomfortable with Jackson Mahomes was kind of draped on him and it felt like listening to the audio of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce on the field it felt

Like that was a bit invasive I mean a bit it was very invasive but also it’s the Super Bowl their microphones everywhere and they were covering their mouth and it’s like I love you so much and there’s either I either Taylor said in response I’m so

Proud of you right now or depending on on the Twitter account that you follow it’s kind of like that is the dress blue or gold type of thing I’m so turned on right now I’ve heard both I don’t think she said I’m so turned on right now why

Else would she be covering her mouth it’s weird prove it though is that it’s not what you know Dan it’s what you can prove in a court of law and I don’t know if that audio holds up I truly don’t I I don’t care what they find to be evasive

I really don’t you’re a power couple you’re the most famous person in the world like enough the cameras are going to be on you let’s give this a couple months before we find out this whole time they’ve been recording everything and there’s a new show or a movie well

In a couple months her new album’s coming out Billy so the reveal has already been revealed tell tell you how you you’re evasive you do what Leo DiCaprio did which is 25y olds which is you don’t pick your head up yeah maybe you know scratch your nose a couple of

Times in a suspicious Manner and you just move on with your day you don’t go in front of all the camer Jeff Goldblum seems like a lot right I know you guys probably love him he seems like a lot I I I could he just seems like a lot never stops talking

My God the D no way yes you saw him dancing on the screen you see me doing that a little bit there’s endless amounts of energy there it’s incredible for his age how he has so much energy Billy Billy are you getting out there first with the take of I’m done with

Jason Kelce enough with the Kel Jeff gold enough and Jeff Goldblum enough with everybody I didn’t say those thing I just said je I just said gold seems like a lot does he not could you imagine if that was like your dad like you’d have to go places with him love goldo

Not if he was your dad not if he was your dad some real time with exactly right it’s fine to like him from a distance you spent time with I never have I feel like he’s super Charming he would be a delight a funny Delight to

Be stop being Jeff that would be weird if he was your dad cuz he is so hot kind of like what Tony was saying earlier about his grandma not what I was saying if you’re trying to why he thinks about her when she’s uh Tony I don’t know I don’t know

What happened said well he was holding it down uhuh what it’s Mike’s Grandma not mine oh yeah that’s messed up that’s a fine that’s pretty messed up I’ll pay a fine for that $10 Tony why why did you flog us with an attorney earlier you were you

Were let me well Dan obviously I’m still John Reed’s attorney from the stuff that happened that we’re know that obviously came back and I was like it’s not what you know it’s what you can prove I just have to say that so people know yeah but you’re you’re a career loser at these

Cases I don’t understand why all right look since you can’t it’s not what you can prove it’s what you can prove in a in a court of law let’s all listen to this sound on the field and you guys tell me what is being said here in their most intimate moment I said

This was invasive not evasive thank you for coming baby believe that I can’t believe you thank you for the support thank you for coming thank you for making it across halfway across the world get the best baby oh my God the absolute best was it electric it was

Unbelievable I don’t see any I’m proud of you I didn’t hear either that was a different one in the slack that was super clear though what were you able to prove there do nothing not a damn it’s not my I was able to prove the video Department pulled up the

Wrong video I was able to prove what I was able to prove you wheel that up in court no I’m laughing at you from everybody is that’s right if he’s John Reed’s attorney and also trying to prove that and this is a conflict of interest

I don’t like any of this Tony who um okay so let’s try this again with video and see if they can pull up the correct audio because that felt like that’s the video we had the jury’s laughing right oh come on come on what do you mean

That’s the video we had out the I have a video of John Reed he made a music video if you want that video Valentine’s Day you do oh I do what happened you have that now oh it’s here if you want it all right well go wa you didn’t give me the

Video I wanted so why don’t you give me the one I don’t 1+ one that’s two ways to find love 1+ one that’s two ways to find love you love the out the show you know we love you more you love that about the show you know we love you more we know you get the show we can feel the love you love the labat

Show you know we love you more 1+ one that’s two ways to find love one plus one that’s two ways to to find love who Do You Love More Than A St Who Do You Love More Billy too who Do You Love More Mike Ryan Who Do You Love More who

Keep you crying Who Do You Love More is it Tony Who Do You Love More Jessica or who Do You Love More is it Lucy a Roy a Greg Juju a Chris I’m done why Plus that’s two ways to find love 1 no don’t turn it down no you still 10

Minutes you s no you sink into this this is what it’s going to be like with no this I asked for a certain video and this is what the new executive producer in that seat today gave me this so you sit in it they told me had do not come

Out of it early I was just told LS just said in my ear throwing everyone under the bus this is what he was doing recording this instead of getting you the Kelsey audio you want wanted from Taylor Swift cuz he was oh it’s over Dan as his lead counsel good video Happy

Want say is he did not approach me with this I wouldn’t have brought it to the show I would have had it stricken from the memory how does that get on the air if not for Billy just panicking and throwing it on the air how did how how

Did that go through the barricades and the sensors and the things that protect us from Bad content bad huh that Valentine’s Day it’s a catchy tune one plus one that was the G-rated version too there was oh yeah there another version I didn’t hear the other version the

Other version is the one that I heard in Vegas spicy the other one there’s a there’s a blue version oh there version of that it’s an x-rated version it’s not one plus one well oh 6 Plus n maybe hey this is really bad judgment I am told stugots that video

Has now scrambled and found some of the best video there is to be had on drunken Jason Kelce karening through the Super Bowl and Las Vegas but I need to clean up what just happened in the last segment because we played the wrong Travis Kelce Taylor Swift sound Mike gy

Was all he was all geeked out trying to lip read trying to hear what what was being said because I think he enjoyed the idea that at the height of Super Bowl Fame Taylor Swift was getting turned on but we have no proof from the audio that we just played that it was

Anything close to that but we did find some video from the AFC Championship Game Mike do you want to lead us through this video to see what your alleging you’ve done it once already but you which side are you believing so I it’s been subtitled by NFL films that she

Says I’ve never been more proud of anyone but you know they could have been taken Liberties because it’s muffled but it does kind of sound like if someone told you she said I’ve never been more turned on by anyone and that was a subtitle you’d believe it too Jessica

Why are you shaking your head no this is so of course she didn’t say that well you don’t know hornball you weren’t there you’re right I wasn’t there you got my ass I wasn’t there let’s let’s examine it right now let’s it it’ll be like we put you right There ever here we go guys give me a p thank you I gotta be honest I heard it totally different I heard I’ve never been so horny H that’s what I heard I heard Duncan Robinson saying you’re not about this dunking donuts oh wait no they’re

Just he’s just dunking now just D my bad Vegas she said I’ve never been more turned on and then he said we got to slow this down Darren Rell Mike’s Grandma Tony’s Grandma I think what do you want to do gold killer be D Bell how

Bell killer beio and Bagwell Billy and I uh multiple it was beltron for a playoff multiples my right it was Beltran for a playoffs it was Bel and you’re forgetting about Lance burkeman ah how can we forget B yeah you okay Jessica then I started thinking about

Like the run that the LA Dodgers had with NL rookie of the years yeah that also gets me at least five pumps here is videoos hollandsworth here’s video of Jason Kelly Kelsey falling into some bushes it’s just b-roll here two guys but you can watch he’s wearing he’s wearing he’s wearing a rest

Mask and uh Ronald McDonald overalls and a chalice a gold chalice is that a chalice is he holding a chalice do you realize nobody in professional sports is allowed to do Vegas this way uh except the hockey player the hockey players when they party with the cup are the only

Ones who are allowed to do it this way he’s not even on the team it’s it’s crazy if I’m an Eagles fan I’m a little bothered maybe that’s what I’m saying No but wrecked an Adele concert listen to this here you say that if you were an

Eagle fan but he was representing the Eagles at Adele Adele had to stop her concert as she was in the middle of talking and she correctly identified who was in the crowd yelling at her drunk was he was it because he was wearing a wrestling mask do we have any Chief fans here

Tonight do we have any we knowing the fans here tonight oh sorry Chief you’re out numbered tonight but don’t worry this is a big loving loving show so you’re going to get on do we have what did you say Super Bowl she you sound drunk and like you’re a football [Applause]

B it sounded like she heard seagulls did she repeat seagulls to Eagles I don’t know what she knows about football huh I think she’s more of a basketball gal myself but yeah yeah WrestleMania is in Philadelphia this year and they always like to have a celebrity integration I I think Jason Kelce needs

A body slam somebody at WrestleMania this year you See’s on the pop culture uh topic dour Jason Kelsey better be at WrestleMania I want again to point out to everybody in the universe how wonderful it is that Jason Kelsey is allowed to occupy this space where you interrupt Adele concerts and Kine into

The bushes as someone’s brother and everyone loves you anyway race plan a factor imagine how that goes with cadarius T just make it Lamar Jackson’s brother is behaving that way at the Super Bowl what look at Patrick Mahomes Senor that that’s also not a white black thing

Maybe but it’s a celebrity thing like scream like that in an Adele show getting walked out like Robert you have seagulls huh I that’s what there’s no way she heard seagull no I I heard Taylor Swift say I’ve never been hornier that’s not what you guys

Hurt I heard Mike say that I said brobert about Tony she gave an over the pantsy had a beat that’s why I was confused Robert was I’m sorry BT is that like a comic you want to listen again to it or yes yeah let’s let’s Try ever here we go guys give me a p thank you Tony can I get a Ru in Dan I think you’re close I heard a little some like a sound like an H like a sound but that wouldn’t hold up in court no of course not okay but that’s

Not the point the point is you got to just let the you got to let the jury hear what they want to hear and Dan already planted in the the jury’s head just show them up they might have said horny and all of a sudden guess what I

Hear horny now that’s what I heard uh what do you hear here in this video what do you see in this video St guys Jackson Mahomes there are a couple of bad videos one he’s great he’s groping at Jason Kelce who doesn’t want him on him like I

Don’t know what Jason Kelce was uncomfortable about there it might have just been the General Jackson holes uh Jackson Mahomes clinginess but there’s also video of Jackson Mahomes being turned down at the Mahomes party is he being kept out by by wife so again this is a rough episode for the podcast

Audience but in the video we’re about to play you can see Jackson Mahomes lean forward and I could read his lip saying and Patrick mahomes’s brother and he looks to Britney Mahomes for help and she doesn’t provide [Applause] it oh come on that’s a sh and then the dance room continue wasn’t really sweating poor Jackson she’s wearing a mink what is that I don’t know I wor better maack and she Shrugged her shoulder at Jackson momes uh Tony what are you cringing she could have backed up his

Story that she could have done something there she could have done something more left him hanging just standing there like I’m Jackson Mahomes brother and like he looks like his brother like they both look identical almost and it’s like hey I’m Pat Patrick mahomes’s brother

And she’s like H sorry Jessica do I see on your face some of what I’m feeling which is the internet turning Jackson momes into something who celebrity adjacent who exists so that we can judge him and laugh at him well I think there was a lot of

Uh a lot of people didn’t like Jackson Mahomes to begin with because of like a lot of the stuff he did on Tik Tok and all of that and we talked about that previously but then he was accused of sexually assaulting someone and and groping a woman at a restaurant and the

Charges were dropped and I think that was a uh solidifying factor in a lot of people not liking him and I think probably a valid one because it was on video but she did not want to cooperate I guess with investigators so the charges were dropped how about this one

As we live it in real time because I don’t know if you guys saw this but Brett Favre owes the poorest people in Mississippi $730,000 and it’s the worst like it’s the worst but Brett Favre when he was in the middle of this machine Gunslinger and pain pill addiction his family was

Falling apart around him in a lot of ways and now he gets to the end of his career we’re all like o Brett Favre isn’t what we thought he was at all Mahomes is navigating his father’s got three DUIs and his brother can’t handle this kind of Fame because who the hell

Can like who the hell can and he’s Tick Tock famous and the brother is celebrity adjacent and all the while Patrick Mahomes floats through existence not just winning all the time but totally Charmed where where he was asked at the Super Bowl how do you feel about the

Situation with your father and his response is that situation whatever it is just put it over there which is my father might have a drinking problem he’s been arrested three times for drunk driving but that’s how you do if you’re Patrick Mahomes I’m just saying God bless Patrick Mahomes that he gets to

Win in every single way because what he’s navigating is difficult it’ll chew up family members like you’ve got to be unbelievably strong to navigate the economy of what it is to be my dad was a middle reliever for the twins but now I’m the biggest star in sports and all I

Do is win everybody wants to be near me and it’s going to wreck some of the soft people around me because this is a monster Fame machine and I Gallop right near Travis and Taylor Swift through the influencers like I got all the f I got Aaron rogers’s commercial I’m the

Biggest star I want all of Tom Brady’s things and he’s navigated it masterfully like LeBron’s done it as well as anyone’s ever done it you don’t get child Fame and then grow up in front of us and not fall in a few ditches never mind your brother and your dad you you

Fall in a ditch because you can stumble as a young per person learning but him as an idol who’s got I don’t know what’s going on in his family but you tell me someone who handles themselves better I think part of the problem is you do know

What’s going on in his family I don’t know what else that’s just what we’re seeing yeah that’s just what we’re seeing no I don’t probably a piece of cake outside of having like mvs and cadarius Tony to throw too Mike I don’t know what’s going on in his personal

Life what spills in front of us is just a very small piece of it even as his brother is uh his brother’s an influencer his brother’s been chewed up by the fame machine and now is somebody who is unliked by social media I can’t even imagine what that does to young

People their mental health any of them like that he he used to be popular because he’s mahomes’s brother and now the internet is chewing him up just as a piece of laughter yeah I mean a lot of this is I’m not going to turn him into a

Victim yeah it’s not real like not a long line to victimize P Jackson Mahomes I’m I’m just talking about what’s around I’m talking about what is around you when you go to the Super Bowl and how it chews you up the what what Taylor and Travis Kelsey are well there’s also

Seeing your brother your brother be such a big Superstar and you’re not like that has to hurt there has to be some demons there but Mike Mike’s right about not making him a victim when he has allegedly victimized uh I am simply telling he’s not an unwilling influencer

You know I mean he was Tick Tock dancing on Shawn Taylor’s number uh correct there are very good reasons why he’s unpopular my my original point stands though on Mahomes navigating the Labyrinth as it eats up his family I mean I don’t know how hard it is I mean interpersonally I imagine it’s

Pretty difficult but the Press not that they give him a pass but Patrick Mahomes just said you know that situation over there and he’s so great that we just keep on with our lives yeah I mean it’s not a distraction if he’s winning the goddamn Super Bowl right we’re still

Talking about it on Wednesday yeah we I just got done saying that Tom Brady’s gonna call all his games next year bitterly you’re not better than me if he doesn’t play you’re not the goat I’m the goat I’ve got some Dana White video and audio

I want to get to and I also want to rectify what I believe uh was my most egregious error from Vegas in a second but before I do so and worse than the wuang error like the worst error I made in Vegas of any kind I will get to that

In a second okay but before I do so Jessica was beginning to play for me something that I had only seen transcript of which I believe we can turn Jessica’s grandmother into the greatest commercial endorser that anyone has ever seen in this audio sphere because of how excited she was simply to

Get the 1-800 Flowers that she got Grandma Grandma smatana I saw I didn’t I have not heard the audio yet but I just saw the way that the iPhone sort of transcribes what it is grandma said and I couldn’t believe how excited she sounded and I can’t wait to hear what

Grand Moss Matana sounds like but you’re saying she has a better chance Grandma has a better chance of being better at this than Joe Rose this I’m this is what I’m telling you just I based on the transcript that I saw I would make the argument that 1- 1800 Flowers could not

Get a better endorsement than this for the excitement and enthusiasm you can create if you do business with 1 1800 flowers and surprise Grandma it may maybe the best unintentional ad for a product that we’ve ever had on the show and we will have it soon Dan it’s not ready yet told

Video video’s moving a little slow today but you’ve told them that that was Dan trying to set it up you know there is a little bit of um I I guess consternation about how much is revealed with this entire Endeavor but take it easy take it

Easy we may reveal things that ped some people’s wives would be unhappy to hear okay we don’t need to betray anyone else in our uh I me you’re here now you’re revealing that uh everyone’s significant other or grandmother the the package of of flowers or roses that they received were

Grace no one revealed that except for you right now no one said that we’re here now we talked about this before the show not doing this on the air today well hopefully they don’t understand what an iron fist okay so just to to review I know Tony doesn’t to review for

The audience okay I know Roy does 1-800 Flowers uh was kind enough to sponsor part of our very fun last week last week and uh I in previous years have threatened people for weeks to buy 1-800 Flowers we didn’t even do it that way this year but I would say this is a

Better advertisement I’ll get into a second because I did tell my wife those were free and she appreciated that I told her rich that they were free mhm well what does that have to do with anything most things are free for you yep but that’s not why I told I didn’t tell

Her these are the free ones stop being better than us so I have a question for the class I have a question for the class here so if your wife hypothetically were to find out that those were graus right they came a little early too wife wouldn’t have

Found out if we all stuck the plan they wouldn’t come early if they just thought kill if they found out if they found out that they were graus do they expect you to now buy some today that are not grus to show that you really care oh no we’re not getting couble of

Flowers too many flowers now now you’ve got two flowers stop on the way home now because you’re not thinking three moves ahead I knew this segment would be coming and so the sentiment you did this you knew it was coming because you decided to say it cuz you decided not to

Get your wife flowers for free so you ruined it for everyone else precisely that’s what gratus means because I will be getting flowers that I’m purchasing well you’re rich too oh and now all of you Schmo will appear cheap because you got a corporate partner to deliver flowers on your

Behalf and I shoot it I said no no no I want these that come from the heart then you’re a sucker exactly right and they still came from the heart they just didn’t come from my pocketbook mhm M I wrote a note these days by the way what

Did your note say I don’t know something about love and Valentine’s Day put the kids’ name on it it was a whole thing I don’t know they got there two days ago it’s the definition of counts I thought about it at the moment but you know then

Went to a lot of stuff goes how you explain getting him 2 days early like I’d be like oh I I told her when they told me to do it I don’t know and she’s like who’s day and I’m like Cynthia I said everyone’s getting roses on

Wednesday I wanted to get yours on Monday how about that nice see that’s how you sp win I love you every day not just Valentine’s this is the best day of the year to see people in line at the grocery store or at the flower store at

Like 5:00 every year like clockwork I live by like a Little Flower Stand there’s people lined up a block around 5:00 trying to get whatever is left from the flower B well now we’re all going to see you at 5 because you decided to do

This no you got to go to the gas station for that gas station nice little cheap route they sell flowers at the gas station gas stations there put it on the poll please Juju have you failed at True Romance if you’re buying your flowers at the gas

Station no you could you could dress up gas station flowers nice little you get like two you put a little long long jerky stick in there oh yeah absolutely bow on it surpris a little tieno in your dozen it’s really hard to peel off my God I would go nuts for that

The price tag sometimes of the Roses is really hard to off send someone to a gas station I could put together a flower arrangement with two boues of gas station flowers I’m telling you right now I can pull it off yeah you’re going to do it today here’s some play Four

Scard have to do it today now a long cigarello I love a good scratch card so your grandmother’s happy great thanks no we’ll get we were we’re going to get to that audio in a second but you just delighted Me by making me think of all the sad sacks I’m going to be

Driving past on the way home that are going to be at the side of the road trying to get the remnants of Valentine’s Day you because you forgot because you forgot and we raged early we all rans sacked the gas station and I will be very pleased on behalf of the

Mercenary Commerce Thief who who is killing it on the side of the road today just cuz you were forgetful I uh I I’m seeing the arrangement that Jessica’s grandmother got in queue here that we’re about to play and it is a really nice looking Arrangement and I have my

Regrets okay but let’s play for the audience Jessica does this need any other setup because I’m telling you in reading the transcript I was just made so happy how does this woman sound please tell me she’s got a a thick thick accent and she sounds extra old she

Sounds like she’s from Chicago and she grew up in Little Italy let me hear this I got the Jessica holy I got the most gorgeous roses I don’t think I ever got that many roses in my whole life certainly not from your lovely grandfather gotten me a soul rest in

Peace thank you oh my God they are beautiful I’m I’m flabbergasted I mean holy I don’t know what it’s for but I love you for thank you you made my day I mean they are gorgeous I mean holy crap well I will talk to you later you’re probably working whatever um and

I hope you got your oranges I never I didn’t hear whether you got the damn oranges or not so um when you get a chance you can give me a call back I’m sitting here looking at those roses and I can not believe what the hell you did

Holy Jesus ah they’re gorgeous and I’m GNA sit and look at them all damn day today never had so many roses in my whole life 85 years holy okay dear thank you love you talk to you later bye that’s Chicago accent man I think that’s Jess she’s adorable

That’s J I think so too did you get the oranges or I did get the oranges very good oranges listen to me 800 800 Flowers you need to sign up Jessica’s Grandma as a paid endorser she needs to get flowers fairly regularly so that she could sing the Praises of your company I

Do think we should pump the braks here for a second because much like Billy’s wife and Tony’s wife and possibly Roy’s wife would not be happy to find out this was like a work Arrangement my grandmother would probably murder me if she knew we played this on the show and

At 85 how many surpris Grandpa Grandpa caught a stray yeah he did well rest rest in power but he also set the bar very low I mean really did I know but roses I do think your grandmother might be a little bit uh a little bit insulted that you

Betrayed her and she desecrated the memory of your grandfather holy holy consent to do that no two holy Three Holy shits and a holy crap I like the crap lawyer is that okay and a lawsuit uh this is actually a one party state so you’re

Good why do you know that is it it was I’m a lawyer it’s my job to know that Billy why r what are you a lawyer too yourself she’s not the Shanahan of lawyers he’s the and of lawyers Prett sure it’s a two- party State n you know

The right people uh can I just ask you guys who failed the worst on Valentine’s Day with the uh with the flowers I just wrote on the Note corporate sponsored romance and that’s how I revealed to my wife that it wasn’t and she appreciated that I didn’t try like I was surprised

That that bought me anything honestly I just did that because I didn’t want her to think that it was anything other than that I mean it’s it’s easy to be fine with a free pair of roses when you walk into you know you got a bunch of alpacas in

There you guys keep holding my wealth against me you think I’m buying my wife beds of roses every day somebody else does that for me at least does it Mike this Pony was actually in the movie Babe too pig in the city the most egregious mistake I made in Vegas dos yeah oh

Yeah I did not send Mike off correctly the rare executive producer who retires and then returns for two days later who does that keep finding myself in this situation Brady did it I think but we were supposed to give him the big goodbye I mean he got all the emotional

Moments me and Greg Cody and you singing songs weepy eyed and he’s in the back Corners uh hiding after having created a comedic Masterpiece of Flav of flave and wuang and Wayne Newton are listen to Greg Cody surprise the Super Bowl in Vegas with a band no one knew he had

Mike did you feel it did you feel like we didn’t give you the proper send off I don’t care about that stuff it’s it’s weird I’m quite literally over Billy’s shoulder right now it’s not yes I I it just means I get to concentrate on on

Other things I’m still a part of the show hopefully closer to two times a week then three times a week shout out to Carl for the schedule this week I could have used the two days but so awful announcing and me both awful announcing has celebrated Mike Ryan in

Print have you read this the picture of you shows one very large pepperoni nipple a lot happening at that time we had two deep March Madness runs the Stanley Cup finals appearance an NBA Finals appearance the picture Alexa Pro the picture of your eulogy of your obituary here as goodbye as awful

Announcing writes it you’re holding how many drinks in your hands I well there was an Eiffel Tower drink and a flanigans CB so at least two hell yeah and it begin in the way the most loving of tributes should editorial note this is a freelance article from a contributor yeah that’s flattering I’ll

Take that if you’re interested in writing for us please email awful announcing gmail.com with your pitch look at the size of my what are they paying the author can be reached at Joe Friday Jr it was a very nice article so I’ve heard Joe worked for 10 years in sports

Media and now works with media companies to grow their business are you writ or shaming me now this is not a great [Laughter] tribute I mean way to correct that so Billy he is literally right over your shoulder right now but I want to read from this article that is

Celebrating have you seen the headline on this to Gods Mike Ryan Ruiz is the secret to the success of the Dan lebatard show no member of the show’s 10 plus deep crew has had an impact quite like Mike Ryan Ruiz are you ready for a segment I like to call reading Y how

Uncomfortable do you think I’m going to make Mike with all of this very on last Thursday’s episode of the day I haven’t read all of this you I haven’t read any of it have you read any of it no okay is anybody read any of it no does anyone

Care to read any of it I had an issue where I I opened it up on Twitter and it had a black background with black ink so I couldn’t really read it it was it was dark I’m getting to it but Dan I would have read it if Mike Ryan if I didn’t

Know if I wasn’t armed with the information I’d see Mike in 48 hours that’s right but in a new role promoted in the company to the seat to the seat that Billy was in which and now billy gets promoted in the company to the did I get demoted then huh you’re in

Charge today right but he’s breathing but he’s breathing over your shoulder the rare promotion to motion just come here man I didn’t pick the seating arrangement my man who picked it I didn’t pick it what do you mean you just come here on last Thursday’s episode of

The Dan lebard show with stat it was announced well it was announced many times wasn’t it it was announced like seven different times that it was executive producer Mike Ryan ruiz’s wait a minute they call you Mike Ryan Mike Ryan Ruiz would be stepping down from his position at the

End of the week the move could Mark a seismic shift for The Perennial perennially top five rated Sports podcast depending on the level of ruiz’s involvement moving forward are we in trouble without you depending on your involvement I’m still here right I’m here were in trouble with me in 2013

Ruiz not yet 30 years old ascended to the top producer role after the departure of longtime EP Mark Hawkman during his tenure haw he oversaw the show’s growth from a local Miami Sports Talk Radio Show to National ESPN Radio property to the most valuable digital audio show at the worldwide leader to

The profit Center product of a fledgling startup a resume that could dub him the most prolific producer in sports audio history if such a ridiculous title existed I’d agree with that notion who’s the fledgling company I think we’re the fledgling who who the you calling fledgling I agree freelance writer top

Five producers huh Johnny Friday what are you doing fledgling my ass fledgling we got the best Audio deal in the game who you kidding I do belong in that conversation though I say humbly the lebatard you say nothing humbly the lebatard show has received no shortage of fawning coverage but if there’s one

Aspect of its success that goes unheralded it’s the apparent ease with which the transition from local sports radio show to National Sports comedy show occurred all under the Steady Hand of Ruiz including are you ready are you ready far from steady the hand is not steady the hand shakes and it’s often

Hitting mic on integrating traditional sports radio tactics sound bite drops recurring gags parody songs time segments into the podcast format and not have them seem out of place feel like I forced that on mic I want it to sound like a radio show he’s like off Dan it needs to be a

Podcast putting out more content than any other competitor with more than 10 hours of the central DLS dropped weekly across nearly 20 episodes other top podcasters have called out the show for doing this to juice ratings but by any metric their total downloads and output are unmatched yeah we do the work

Unmatched we do the work upon the show leaving ESPN it was Ryan who pushed for the show to keep their RSS feed so its subscriber base and back archives could remain intact an unheard of move for audio shows at the time and now the template you forced that on ESPN

Everybody left with their feeds because we did yeah mimicking the success of the ringer and bar stool to create a podcast Network both at ESPN and at metal Arc media while the lebatard and Friends Network has yet to spawn any top rated shows like those competitors you should not keep reading

Did you say that about God blessed football they didn’t just say that about God blessed football they did it creates added value and inventory to help increase Revenue across the company are you guys bored by this I feel like I’ve lost ay I’m mortified by it I’m sweating

A lot and I’m really uncomfortable it’s not hyperbole to say that outside of lebatard no member of the show’s 10 plus deep crew is missed when they aren’t on The Daily Show more than Ruiz you should not keep reading this no this is like cutting I don’t like this please stop

Keep can you stop down do I have the authority to say like I don’t think he has that Authority anymore Billy that’s your Authority what call are you making here keep reading I heard there’s a video too what over the last five years The Two Hosts of the show have clearly seemed less

Interested in SPS I told you to stop reading you hear my takes on the Chiefs I can see this one coming should really stop reading Lear like a levitar like a handful you’re not in charge anymore Billy’s in charge he likes an most definitely not lebatard

Like a handful in media from 2015 to 2021 fell into a trap of dismissing Sports coverage in fandom a shift he has started to walk back over the last year I have have you I was just by my brother’s deathbed I don’t feel like I was walking that

Back I mean the Heat and and Panthers made the finals he loved a good conference room he did yeah how however in a sports podcast world where the other longtime top rated shows pardon my take Bill Simmons podcast Ryan rilla Show feature hosts that proudly watch

Hours and hours of games Ruiz helped DLS bridge that Gap he often ran circles around the hosts and other Talent on Sports conversation occasionally having to pull back to not upstage others on topics he was clearly more informed that’s actually super fair right on the money a diminished role for Riz would

Likely mean the show leans more into the variety and comedy Antics by limited supported ooh by limited supporting characters fine for their die hards but not ideal for growing an audience in a competitive landscape oh the shipping containers is being called out there you guys stop reading this please bulletin

Bore material buddy being made very I don’t feel bad anymore about Tony making fun of this guy for being AI just please stop there precedent for ruiz’s departure he last stepped down as EP in 2022 so we’ve done this before make up your mind it’s not me man

Handing the Reigns to Chris Whittingham who held the title for a year be before def before def farting you had it right before he did at highi remember that guy called him out deed yeah I don’t like this one bed before def farting to do MLS play byplay for

Apple TV and uh Paramount plus he’s the lead commentator I think he’s uh I don’t want to reveal too much but yeah he’s the man over there you’ll never forgive him for leaving that position I it took me a while to get over the resentment during winningham’s time he’s the lead voice

Well he put his hopes and dreams ahead of mine that’s right AB mine too mine too during winningham’s time is EP Ryan still appeared on the show regularly albeit in a more secondary role that’s likely to be the case again especially since there’s no natural replacement this time around what do you mean

Billy’s in the seat right now it takes a village why isn’t Chris Cody the natural replacement Jessica Roy Tony juju why we’re all going to do it we’re I’m not excluding myself from that all we’re all doing it together yeah what am I going to do help wasn’t part of any I don’t

Want to ask for any of this yeah I wasn’t asked so well said with years of experience the team of producers the show employees is surely capable of handling the Tactical elements of production but they lack Ryan’s deep knowledge of sports how to engage the host in both informative and

Entertaining debate or when to steer the show back from nasal gazing Giggles the place where G Billy Gill wants to reside all of the time that made it I can’t believe that this guy sees the show that way unable have you read this Billy is this the first you’re hearing I you’re

Reading the entire you’re you’re reading it I have nine weeks of paternity still did Mike write it next week sounds like a good starting point the lebatard show continues to be a billing Beast thanks mainly to their unparalleled output it has developed the most treasured commodity media a loyal

Fan base of Die hards For Whom listening is routine and getting the show is a source of Pride Ruiz has developed the supporting producers that will receive more onair time if he pulls back so he remains invested in the program’s success but the show that Ruiz grew into

A behemoth will be vastly different if he is not as involved a testament to his success as EP awful awful announcing ladies and gentlemen awful announcing I do think the show is going to be different and that’s not that’s not a bad thing I I

Don’t I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have less of me I’ve seen your comments this is going to be good and and I I Look to be fulfilled I’m working on a lot of exciting things things that I’m pouring my uh creative bandwidth into that I haven’t had an opportunity to

Since uh Woody left and I I think it’s time for me to as that article said take a secondary tertiary role here on this show it’s a you know phases I’m deeply uncomfortable with all this doesn’t seem like anyone’s comfortable with it either doesn’t seem but it is goodbye yet you’re here two

Days after saying goodbye because we didn’t say goodbye correctly that’s why I didn’t say goodbye I thought it would be ridiculous and we’ll see you tomorrow or we see me for the rest of the week okay and you did just read an article that was mean to us that was that was

Mean guys a dork but it was it was mean to all of us it was mean to all of us except Mike though anti Cuban I was good with it so was I it’s fine I didn’t love him calling the shipping container container limited limited characters who said

Limited I mean The Fakes are limited The Fakes I don’t like SMY either you never have you never have uh St do you know how much uh thank you Mike IIs Alison I I’m sorry except when she was here and then I didn’t like her [Laughter] too misogynistic Bane needs to have a

Bigger role on this show he does I’m very liant though limited character I know but it’s such a good character kill the Batman uh stat do you know what Usher was paid for the Super Bowl for doing the halftime show I’ll take a guess uh $300,000 $671 what

$671 is what he got paid however on the cheap because he got uh streaming sales because he got uh album sales because he got his tour uh a third sold out coming up they are saying he will make a $100 million off of that’s how much money the

NFL births uh they give you $671 and it turns into $100 million I apologize I know how to play the game I thought I was playing the game correctly I should have said 300 million I didn’t know it was that low I mean it used to

Be 0 it used to be zero dollars but now there’re for some reason I don’t know what this reason is now Usher was p paid $671 scale more annoying for him than anything cuz now he has to probably fill out paperwork for that just pay me

Nothing how did they get 671 you know I me like what’s the invoice thing that might but he sold a third of his tickets to his upcoming tour 38% of his tickets got sold yeah how does this thing keep getting bigger it can’t keep getting bigger go bless football

Organizationally some things are going to slip through the cracks were you guys aware that a tribute video was made for Mike Ryan that it’s not just so bad that I’m reading an awful announcing article but there’s also a tribute V video that I was told that cougler made to

Celebrate Mike Ryan’s time as our executive producer cougs let’s see what you Got He Speee Fore For wo wo See w Cougler you lied to me you said you were going to make something that said good goodbye to Whittingham so I wouldn’t have to sit there and endure what it is that we just had to end we have one of those too if you want that do we really

We do yeah you’re just informing me of this okay that would have been the funnier joke to just play something hey let’s say goodbye now finally a little late formally to our longtime executive producer the one we cherish most Chris Whittingham we don’t have it right now

No no 30 seconds 30 second I’d like one of these can I can I retire and come back in two days retire and just move to a different seat we will get to that sound in a second but stot can we enjoy for a moment what is happening in basketball

Because I don’t know if you saw this but the Timberwolves uh last week was a crazy week in sports that we didn’t even see because we were swallowed by the Super Bowl but the Timberwolves went to the Clippers the Clippers had been the hottest team in basketball one by 21 I

Had the Clippers and then spent a lot of time saying the Clippers are sorry laugh laughing and singing and calling them old as hell I’ve lived long enough now to see James Harden Paul George and Kawhi Leonard face a a team of Minnesota uh players that I would have laughed at

For trading for goar and they come in and swamp the Clippers and make them look old and laugh on the sidelines while telling them they’re old and they’ve got the team of players younger than the other Los Angeles team that has the oldest player in the league and

LeBron’s being left behind it’s so odd because the t-wolves are 30 and 16 the one seat in the west they are really really good and I can’t get myself to take them seriously I just can’t like I can’t see them winning an NBA championship I believe that a lot of

People listening to this are going to think to themselves that the Lakers and Warriors can turn some sort of thing on and they will judge against Minnesota and OKC and everyone else at the top of that conference maybe even Denver even though they’ won the championship ah you

Can’t do it against the best because I’ve saw seen LeBron and Curry be better than than you when they’re at their best but I think the guard has changed like I expect these teams I expect the younger teams to show me something in the playoffs but I do fear the Clippers like

If I’m if I have to play the feel LeBron anymore I don’t feel LeBron anymore he made it to the Western Conference Finals I’ll tell you what I fear the Clippers more than I do the Warriors and a lot of people would disagree with me on that

Because over the last week there that everyone is because you’ve seen for 10 years the Warriors be great you expect them to be able to summon something even though the last time they tried they could not right last time you saw that was Klay Thompson actually being Klay

Thompson now he’s just a shell of a shell of himself but every once in a while he can give you the game he gave it to you he’s given it to you a couple of times recently even as he’s given you the public vulnerability that athletes

Never do which is I’m bet I’m okay with a reduced role I’m okay looking in the mirror and having Draymond yell at me quit crying quit crying he’s got no choice though D but Draymond Green is asking Klay Thompson to toughen up and have St this part to me is super

Interesting okay we just got done with the Super Bowl look how hard it is to kill the real champions you think you doubt you doubt they’re falling apart he he’s he’s the tight end’s dating a popstar it’s crazy around them I doubt I doubt I doubt oh they win again why

Because they’re better than everybody again and again the Warriors have been that for twice as long twice as long borrowed Kevin Durant spit him out they’ve dominated that sport when LeBron wanted to be dominating the sport they had the team they built the architecture to fight him and now it goes down and

Clay’s whimpering and draymond’s like not yet clay not yet I’m I want to fight every I’m gonna go out here punching my teammates choking goar and Clay’s like I got a reduced role and draymond’s like no I want to fight the league and I’m the furnace you got did you see that

Locker Room video of Clay’s whimpering getting in his feelings and draymond’s like well you toughen up I was ejected for a finals game and I came back and scored 32 in a game seven Klay responded with 26 points I’m saying he’s the furnace klay’s not the furnace Klay gets

To benefit Klay could have been traed for Kevin Lovin and scored 30 points in Minnesota and never won a championship the leader of that team’s Draymond whether you like it or not yeah I mean Draymond tried to mate the LeBron James trade go through I think Klay Thompson

Would have went to LA I just think running the team I think it’s crazy that Draymond Green is the leader of that team like almost fundamentally crazy like he’s got to go to therapy to cool down the furnace because the whole thing runs on him being strong but they’ve

Said it throughout the years and I’m surprised you’re surprised only from this standpoint because Steve cerr Steph Curry Klay Thompson they have all said he’s the guy that gets us going he is the guy he’s the leader but stat I’m talking about how that has been playing

With fire for 10 years sometimes it gets ejected for game five of the finals right it’s still stat he’s made his broadcasting career now and says he’s the new media and he’s not wrong he’s going to do a simal cast with Barkley while he’s playing that’s the top of

Both games Draymond Green will give you 12 six and six and a bunch of defense and a mouth and a furnace and winning and a heart and will crush people the way no one active will crush people to their face and in private and then you’re all wondering why is gobear

Allowed to be dragged across the court like that and the league gets real worried oh no draymond’s out of control while it fuels the best thing we’ve seen the last 10 years cuz that thing has been as good or better than LeBron that thing won Andre guadala a

Finals MVP for merely holding LeBron to 35 points a game that thing has been the best thing in the sport for the last decade easily but this is the part I’m fascinated by because we love the storylines and will it be the Clippers can they handle westbr they got four

They got four Knuckleheads can OKC actually survive and be young because they’re great or is the dying dinosaur Dynasty got one more draymond’s going to kick in the nuts on the way out like that’s the that’s the story it it it’s and you think the young teams

Are coming for the Warriors that that that’s done no more Warriors No More LeBron it’s over I think in both Sports I think in foot St I care about you in football and basketball we’ve lived The Changing of the Guard we’re already having the Brady momes conversation and in this

Sport yawning indifference about Denver who’s really coming to get the warrior and the Lakers who’s really coming to finish LeBron and Steph because competitive Champions go down the hardest to got for everything LeBron has done in his career among the craziest is he still this good at this age like he

Should the Warriors he shouldn’t be in any Championship conversations it’s it’s asinine and joic is going for his third MVP and nobody’s talking about the Nuggets but like there are so many teams that the Golden State Warriors have to jump and if if everything is right in

Golden State it feels like they can like we’ve seen it happen before no you believe in nights like last night when they beat Utah by 30 on the road or the last week of what they give you I think they’re a 500 team I don’t think they

Could turn anything on I don’t think what the Lakers can turn on in the inseason tournament is something they’re going to be able to do again like I don’t are are people expecting that are people expecting I mean the Lakers did it a year ago I mean the heat did it a

Year ago the the Lakers I mean DN they got to the Western Conference Finals did they not LeBron kind of turned it on and the end there I mean Denver I feel like we Denver ran rough shot through the entire postseason last year like nobody nobody thought any I mean maybe you

Thought you were doing the same analysis on Denver that you now do on Minnesota and OKC which is I haven’t seen them do it therefore I don’t believe they’ll do it that’s fair the last five games to be fair to Golden State they have won against your Brooklyn Nets one of the

Best teams in the NBA uh the Sixers the Pacers the Suns and Utah I mean they’ve won seven of 10 I’m not going to write them off yet LeBron I’m okay with I’m not going to write Steph Curry off I’ve written them off and now we have stalled

Sufficiently so that we can give Whittingham the tribute the long overdue tribute that he deserved a long time ago the best executive producer we’ve ever had however brief it was Chris Whittingham goodbye to you belatedly Andy K it’s a very brief run cup of coffee God you know what if someone takes a foul ball to the penis we should just say he took a foul ball to the Penis a cup of coffee but what a legacy hit him in the penis cesarian section someone’s take WT taking in the bathroom I forgot about that one so us to do a show in a in a bathtub witty I can’t I can’t believe it didn’t make the cut in the tribute

Pardon the pun uh that him explaining C-sections to you how the pain of a C-section is right modern medicine has made child was so easy women are just complainers they’ll never stop complaining I morphed nurkic into jerkic over the course of that segment Valentine’s Day Dan Vegas Super Bowl week radio row can

You guys can you guys explain something to me I would like the group to explain this because perhaps you have felt the aging process in some of the ways that I have because I don’t know if Tony or even Jessica Loud talking at the airport drunker than Greg Cody Jessica has felt

This the way that I’m about to express it in my 20s I could do Vegas and recover in a day it would take me a day and it would be a hard day but I’d be okay I feel like this entire company is still feeling Vegas on Wednesday of this week

And Jessica I don’t you are a vibrant young person I I think that you are somebody who could conquer Vegas drink hard and then come back here and be here on Wednesday okay she likes to be sleeping by 8 that’s why leman’s taking me out to lunch for Valentine’s Day he

Said I know you like to go to bed early you got to go to work Thursday we’ll do lunch I said that you get me you get me Leman how how broken are you I felt better after I went into the break room and everyone said they felt too at least

It’s not just me I thought I was just being a big old baby but Kiren she’s feeling it Lou he’s feeling it everyone’s feeling it Dan Dan I’ve never feel better the company’s taking a beating I believe is anyone is is anyone with Tony Billy what are you shrugging about

Because just because of course well I’ve never F better her in my entire life feels good Roy how are you feeling well I got lucky yesterday because yesterday was supposed to be the first recording session for Montgomery Inc company for the season except Renee got sick so I

Was working from home so you were lucky you were luy left you never say take the day off you were working you yeah what are you doing always working from home youing you were working hard from home what don’t ruin it for everybody else so

You got us a hangover sleep day that no one else around here got well I wouldn’t if if Renee didn’t get sick it’s her fault it’s her fault but you got lucky and she got sick I got lucky and she got sick so hopefully uh hopefully it takes

Another week for her to recover yeah hopefully we can only be so lucky or two I mean maybe you don’t ever want her to recover whoa how dare you well that’s extreme he could pretend to work from home just start airing reair see if anybody notices for the next

Three weeks and just take your Tuesdays that’s a good point we’re a billing Beast you know you should tell people that uh you’re working hard on your days off to earn your money not that you are sleeping at home to uh get the hangover off you well

Normally I do but you know it’s Vegas but I thought it was me and I thought it was me and my age you guys are telling me it is not it’s the way that everybody was working and that everybody’s I don’t I mean look we don’t need to relive the

Whole thing we’ve done enough of that this week but people don’t have any earthly idea how hard it was to get that spaceship in the air correct no idea no idea it was partially the fact that we were working like 20 of 24 hours and also like had enough money to eat one

Meal outside of The Catered meal so I was pretty hungry the whole week Vegas is expensive yeah very expensive it was a business trip Dan it wasn’t a uh you know you weren’t going there with your friends I me calories a day no I know but it was a business trip we were

Working and many of us were working you know 16 17 hour days normally when I go there and I play cards I drink I do cocaine I go to strip clubs I have the whole day to recover did it this you did all that but I do want to take the

Opportunity like no bit here to commend the God bless football crew a billion and they crushed it I I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone tackle as many hours of content because they they multiply by God knows how many x amount on God bless football and then they did our main show

Which is a beast in its own right so I do wanted to take the opportunity to commend them it really is it is yes mikez and JuJu I could speak for Billy on this did a fantastic job and Billy had me so organized and ready to go it

Was fantastic we had a lot of fun it didn’t stop you from trying to him opposite of Roy I had no fun on the trip just everybody know I did not enjoy that time cuz you got in trouble for saying you enjoyed your Tuesday oh yeah

I did not enjoy it well Billy you you had a thankless job but you uh you wrangled you successfully wrangled the stats in a way that makes him happy about what he made and happy to have enjoyed being the star of radio row you did that thanklessly in the shadows I

Got to say one of the things I’ve enjoyed the last two years is Billy is becoming a star at Radio row I mean dog loves to see him Josh Allen he met his Nemesis he went face to face with him Billy was the story for a couple of days

On radio Russo get your name wrong he did yeah yeah what’ he call you McGill oh oh he thinks you’re he thinks you’re our Zoo guy no I think he thinks that I’m a sandwich at McDonald’s or Irish he calls him Mr Gil and the Mr McGill yeah

It really weird I just yeah I mean what were the god the you told me that there wasn’t anything particularly memorable from the Josh Allen video but you did tell me that you had one video with some somebody that you liked from God blessed football uh do you remember what that

Was cuz I trying to remember I can’t recall you you had one moment on God bless football that was more memorable than all the others there was a moment where Billy went face to face with Josh Allen there was a moment where Bubba Watson needed to hug Chris Cody not once

But twice because Cody was upset about the skills Challenge and Tua Bubba Watson is now a friend of God bless football he wants to come on and talk football all the time you made some legitimate friends in you guys have a community of legitimate friends and you

Had this moment with Lil Dicky too where you guys were deciding we played Marino Montana with Lil Dicky what who were you gonna you were going to play it with Montana with Marino Maro okay you were gonna play it with Marino based on the Emin he was advertising mm we’re going

To open up a bag and if there were more blue ones then Marino it settles it Marino wins if there were more red ones then Montana wins we never got the opportunity going to do instead you did it with Lil Dicky well Lil Dicky is a

Big sports fan we didn’t know how much Lil Dicky actually likes Sports and he was there and he was I didn’t know who he was well that’s another he listen to his rap he drops in Olden polles references I think he Nam dropped me in one of these well he started breaking

Down like the Philadelphia Eagles like coaching staff hires and we’re like okay calm down Little Dicky like we don’t care about this you should have introduced yourself to Lil Dicky he did absolutely mention you as a lyric against cornhe iser I think I was the embarrassment in the lyric but what was

This I think I think you caught a a stray This Is Us I think playing Marino Montana with Little Dicky look there’s Dan Marino right there oh wow see now I now yeah that’s cool now you’re excited look at you do you think Dan Marino

Knows you no way really if you want just get up go and say hey what’s up Dam Maro I can’t I have too much it’s too weird what do you mean go say hi to gock no he doesn’t care about Co he cares about Dam Marino right yeah look at you you’re

Star shuck a little bit you’re a little Dicky man that’s Marino yeah that’s Ace Ventura’s uh pride and joy that’s exactly right we like to play a game called Marino Montana yes oh okay that’s basically the whole it’s that’s it you got a big one you

Know I’m I wasn’t like I can’t tell you that I grew up watching these guys to give it the proper eye test you know what I me I can just tell you I don’t know statistically you got to go Montana right he’s one more well he can’t hear me that’s true

Yeah but you see what he did he did the Rings thing stug how what a phony baloney you are you’re saying say hello to Marino you’re Little Dicky and you have no idea who you’re talking to no je told me right before go just go up to Marino tell him

You’re Lil Dicky that’ll mean something to him I don’t know who you are that’s what I do I mean mayor of radio I did it to wuang who who am I to say video please get ready for me some sound from Brandon Marshall I think it’s I am

Athlete the I am athlete podcast because I’m surprised this hasn’t been uh something that’s talked about more but maybe it’s because there’s some credibility issues with Brandon Marshall this seems like it would be a real big story if it were true or at least a big pop culture story Justin Tinsley is a

Senior Sports and culture reporter for ESPN’s andscape he’s the author of it was all a dream biggie in the world that made him we welcome him back for his hip hop wisdom Kanye West has returned with number one album on the Apple charts he would appear to be uncan and here is

Brandon Marshall telling you something that I had not heard I’ve not heard a Second Source confirm this it sounds like it’s just a rumor but here’s what he says happened to Kanye West around Taylor Swift uh Skybox at the Super Bowl Kanye West pulls up to Vegas Kanye West

Buys a ticket right in front of py Perry’s Booth so anytime they were going to be showing KD Perry Kanye’s face was going to be there did you say in front of Taylor’s Booth or in front of Kat Perry’s Booth oh my bad my bad in front

Of Taylor Swift’s Booth Oh either had a mask on with his logo on the mask right typical Kanye Taylor Swift gets pissed off she boom boom makes a call or two everybody is involved he gets kicked out the stadium oh this is hot Kanye Kanye

Hot tea hot tea hot te hot te hot te got kicked out the stadium he was trying to leverage her celebrity to because he know they’re not going to cut to him so he’s like I’m going to strategically position myself so every time they cut

Over here to her so now you got to go back to the beef you know him cutting her off it’s like you know Beyonce should have woned then years after just that whole relationship but that’s what he tried to do man he tried to sit in front of Taylor Swift

Uh somebody would have reported this if it were true right somebody else a second person would have reported this if it were in any way true I mean I guess but I’m not gonna question Brandon Marshall Justin are you I have to because I feel if if you’re involving Kanye West if you’re

Involving Taylor Swift and you’re involving Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl and there’s no secondary backup Source or or confirmation from that story I just I don’t know how accurate it is now now could it have actually happened sure I don’t put anything past anybody especially when it involves Kanye West

But there’s video online I saw it on Twitter the other day of Kanye West in a suite with Anderson pack and they you know the the internet did his research and I actually zoomed in as well it’s late in the third quarter when this picture was taken so if Kanye was

Actually kicked out unfortunately for him he got kicked out right when the game started getting really good but I haven’t heard this confirmed by any other source and I just feel like if this actually happened TMZ would have been all over it it would have been the

First story on a lot of podcasts and radio shows across the country and I just haven’t heard this from anybody else other than Brandon Marshall if uh you were Kanye West at this circumstance and you wanted to get more publicity this way why not just confirm it to

Bleep with the media because who cares yeah I mean of course this is a guy who you know Kanye West he he’s been a focal point in the spotlight for over 20 years over 20 years at this point we just recently passed the 20th anniversary of

His uh of his debut album The College Dropout and it feel it feels like we’ve been talking about him ever since and he understands what a moment looks like and so he knows if he has an album coming out and it’s been reported about the struggles about getting it on streaming

And him trying to find other Arenas to perform in we know about these struggles if he has a chance to promote that album and promote Kanye in that moment I don’t see why he wouldn’t do it so that’s why I question this reporting from Brandon Marshall so this is

Interesting Justin because if you reported it without a Second Source I’d believe it and I believe Brandon Marshall it seems unfair to Brandon Marshall yeah it seems and look again it may be correct but I just feel like if this actually happened if Taylor Swift

Got Kanye West again like he said in his own video knowing their history if Taylor Swift got Kanye West kicked out of the Super Bowl that would be that would be major news it wouldn’t happen quietly right Kanye Kanye would have said something because him getting kicked out by Taylor or allegedly by

Taylor kind of plays into his hands if that’s the attempt to to siphon off the fame all right but let’s let’s let’s talk stopping let’s stop talking about the stupidity of this Justin and let’s talk about the larger overall problem which is K a Kanye West’s uh commentary

And behavior has been super questionable and actually cancelable for a long time now where you can wonder about his mental health and yet he’s got the number one album on the Apple charts he’s not actually cancelable is he no because he’s he he’s always going to have that Legion of fans behind him

Who will support him in whatever he does Kanye is never wrong Kanye is ahead of the curve Kanye is this genius so he’s going to have that segment of society which honestly Dan honestly St that’s a large segment of the musical fandom in this country Kanye operates a huge space

In that and nothing is going to change now granted yes things will change in his career obviously we saw how those comments impacted him in terms of business and in terms honestly in terms of music as well but that doesn’t mean that she still won’t have a large

Following behind him it’s it’s very honestly to make this comparison it’s very trump-like in a sense isn’t a bigger indicator of him actually being canceled or not because I don’t actually think that’s a real discussion Ben Shapiro had a number one overall track when it came to to streaming I think the

Bigger example of him not being cancelled is him actually getting time on the Super Bowl he bought he got a 30 second video selfie video the NFL and networks have taken Sands before and not allowed advertisers there have been plenty of people willing to pay for the

Time and that’s a decision that the NFL and CBS granted yeah I mean look unfortunately we know how time influences discussions now had Kanye done what he done don’t don’t what he did last year in terms of the the anti-semitic com comments he made on multiple programs if he did that like

Two weeks before the Super Bowl then no that wouldn’t happened but I think unfortunately in in many ways enough time has passed that you know there’s been so many other big stories that that have dominated pop culture since then it’s like okay maybe we can let this guy

Come back in and of course if you gonna pay for it we know how Super Bowl commercials go so like day Money Talks hold on Money Talks hold on a second like let’s think about what we’re examining here that Kanye West who has been a raving anti-semite with comments

That are it should be noted In fairness he has since apologized the most in terms of his commentary on Jews the most recent thing that we have is an apology when he’s talking about time there here though the amount of that time passed okay the comments at any other point in

Our history would have gotten an artist actually cancelled a Super Bowl ad which is is a 30- second selfie video in the backseat of a car uh that alerts people to merch on his website he’s claiming on Instagram that he sold 284,000 orders for $19.3 million in

Under 24 hours so not only is he not cancelled he’s strong enough to have a Super Bowl commercial and turn it into a merch commercial during the Super Bowl so it’s not just not cancelled it’s the the the the strength of riches do you buy these numbers because because a

Super Bowl ad is more than that that would cost him money if that’s all he sold in 24 hours uh the thing with Kanye you gotta got to take a lot of things that are half truth he’s going to say what make he’s going to say what makes

Him look good in that moment and honestly saying that oh this is my Super Bowl commercial costs x amount of dollars this is you know this is my new album whatever the case may be he’s going to make a business decision for Kanye and again that segment of that

Population that will follow him everywhere he go everywhere he goes and believes everything he says they’re only going to hype this up even more now do I believe it I don’t actually believe it he may be looking at something gross when it’s really a net pay but I just I

Feel like if he made that much money in that short a span of time the same way with the getting allegedly getting kicked out the Super Bowl I feel like that that would be much more of a bigger story and it just feels like he’s the only one promoting this news and there’s

There’s nothing really to back it up or to challenge him on it what were your main takeaways from Usher halftime show as a pop culture phenomenon uh I thought it had everything it needed to be to be in the discussion of some of the best Super

Bowls of halftime now to be fair I don’t think anybody’s going to top prince in 2007 I mean the man literally did purple rain during a downpour it doesn’t get much more epic than that but in terms of Usher this guy we know he’s an incredible performer like what what he

Did on that Super Bowl stage was basically a preview of what his residency looked like so we knew he had the performance down we knew he could sing but he he was actually singing without background vocals and that was a very physical performance that he did and and obviously the the catalog backed

It up so I won’t say it’s the greatest of all time but I guarantee you within the next five years we’re going to be talking about that as one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time Tony’s making a face at you Tony it was it was okay Justin it wasn’t the

Greatest thing of all time he was a little bit breathy ran out of breath Dan was okay the roller skates get out of here it was average I mean that was that’s what the residency was that’s Vegas baby like that was trust me I was

There in a m code I know exactly what Vegas is go all right all right you know Frank Lucas no cing though here’s the most important question from the Super Bowl did Kyle Shanahan know the rules for overtime oh my God Ste don’t get me

Started on this no I don’t think he did I really I mean his players his players actually said it his players were his players looked up at the the jumbo tryers like oh they found out the rules the same time ice spice did that’s unacceptable if you are in the Super

Bowl you had two weeks to plan for a moment like that and your players arguably the best team in the country not in in in the league all year they don’t know the rules to overtime in the Super Bowl and you’re playing Patrick Mahomes I’m not saying I’m not saying

The guy should lose his job he he should not lose his job should but until until he reverses this this is a stay on your career that you’re not going to be get you’re not going to be able to get over it unless you actually win one that is

Unforgivable and I’m not even the 49ers stug says stat says he no one is out here more aggressively with the take that Kyle Shanahan cannot skate on this no you you can’t be forgiven for something like that D it’s the Super Bowl baby the Super Bowl follow-up

Question to that uh you’re the York family you own the 49ers Bill bellich calls you what do you do oh come on no no I don’t I don’t I don’t think you took it too far you’re I don’t think you fired now you’ve gone too far this is

What Billy said you yesterday this is the thing you give stats a little bit stats good take and he’s like I needed more I need more fire him keep going right there with you baby set fire to him in a Public Square yes yes if you keep agreeing with him he will keep

Taking it out further and further let me know when you get to the bellich che portion of it it will take a couple of days I get there you know quicker than anyone but let me know when you get there Justin and we’ll call me back okay

I absolutely will we’ll have you on again all right the the Super Bowl was the a lot of Pop Culture events meeting in the middle and one of the the the news stories that has resulted from that is Beyonce kind of did this big unveiling and the album plans and she’s

Going country with this next album is that country radio stations are emailing people back who are requesting Beyonce songs that there are country music station and they will not be playing Beyonce even though the songs are country songs what do you make of that uh this is going to be a prominent

Discussion in pop culture for probably the next year we’re going to like I understand what’s going on here similar to act one which was Renaissance and that brought uh you know attention on the the the cont the contributions that black artists have made to to to house

Music it’s going to be the same here with country music because that is a long Rich complex and at times very depressing history in terms for black artists so I think the album is going to be fine it’s going to be another be be Beyonce spectacle big moment great album

It will go up for album of the year which will also be another conversation we’ll be hearing about for the next year because guess who drops her album in March Beyonce guess who drops her album in April Taylor Swift so you know this cycle is just going to repeat itself but

Uh they’re going to be discussions about uh black history and country music Black Artis and country music what does the future look like and Beyonce is going to be a a an point for a lot of that we’ve been talking about reckonings coming to men with power and Money Dana White and

Vince McMahon in sports Russell Simmons was sued on Tuesday by a former executive at Def Jam who alleges that Simmons raped her in his apartment back in the90s and ruined her career he’s had similar lawsuits against him thrown out over the years due to the statute of

Limitations uh is there going to be a reckoning here or is Russell Simmons going to skate like he’s always skated then I hope so I really hope so yes we know about Russell Simmons history in terms of what he meant for basically constructing and building hip-hop during

Its infant stages we get that but that cannot be that cannot overshadow the actions and the history that this guy has been involved with in terms of like some very graphic and ugly uh sexual assault rape situations I I got to tell you I I got to tell you a personal story

Dan and this topic really means a lot to me for for a lot of reasons but one in particular is when I was working on my book uh the the biggie book that you had mentioned earlier it was all a dream I I interviewed Drew Dixon and for people

Who don’t know who drew Dixon is Drew Dixon is a former music industry executive a very brilliant woman uh and unfortunately she is a sir you know Survivor from uh Russell Simmons raping her you know raping her in the the 90s and she told me a story about how she

Was very close to Biggie Smalls and that was one of her uh very good friends and I asked her I was like well did you tell biggie about you know what happened in this situation and she was like no I couldn’t because I didn’t want to be I

Didn’t want to be responsible for him going up to Russell potentially ruining his career but I also didn’t want him to let me down if he didn’t do anything and still Stood Beside him and I think that is that that’s another part of this conversation about Russell Simmons and

Obviously about sexual violence sexual assault rape as a whole yes the the the the actual Act is horrific but the burden that it leaves on victims and survivors uh that’s what really needs to be talked about until so every time I see Russell Simmons I saw him last year

He was uh he was doing a lot of hip-hop related events with uh Eric Adams and Eric Adams was calling himself the hip-hop mayor and then being seen uh you know beside Russell Russell Simmons was on the Hollywood Walk of Fame I do hope you talk about somebody that that needs

To be just removed from the conversation Russell Simmons need needs to be removed from the hip-hop conversation because they’re just too there’re just too many stories there are just too many lives that have been you know you know ruined by these actions uh that it’s just reprehensible and you

Can’t talk about success without talking about the evil that that comes with it as well Justin thank you for being on with us appreciate the time sir thank you for having me fellas all right uh unfortunately I did not have time to get uh to with him my wuang mistake I how

Convenient I was hoping to it and I was hoping to get his opinion what a coincidence we can have him back on when he gets around on bellich no I gotta go I gotta go the news is now breaking three days late that Jason Kelsey I’m sorry Travis

Kelce on the podcast does that’s hosted by Jason Kelsey his brother his brother who kened through all of Las Vegas drunk and got spit out at the airport in a way that looked like he was in his pajamas Travis Kelce has publicly apologized to Andy Reid for in a rapid rage almost

Knocking down an old man with a physical confrontation that no one cares about because he didn’t actually fall down and have trouble getting back up uh Jason said you crossed the line Travis said I absolutely did I regret it but I was fired up I wasn’t playing well the team

Wasn’t playing well and I wanted to let Andy know hey give me the ball that’s right I crossed the line the line was crossed but nobody cares cuz I run off with the Starlet winning with the championship trophy and my drunk brother and Andy didn’t fall that’s right Andy

Didn’t fall he fell later in the game on top of Chris Jones and couldn’t get up but we were celebrating no one cares when we win we can be drunk as long as we’re winning and we all know you got a fall to take the charge thank you for playing that video

Again of Andy Reid Miss Miss missionary position style uh Just landing on top of Chris Jones the media shift has been amazing because 10 years ago 5 years ago three years ago probably everyone he would be the get Travis Kelce would be the get he doesn’t need us he he’s like

Wait around till Wednesday for my podcast I’ll give you I’ll get all the numbers on Wednesday when I apologize publicly and I’ll spend all the time uh since partying and I will spend all the time with my drunken brother kening in the bushes and what of it we’ve got the best

Podcast and the Kelsey are dominating everything and I’m sure there’s going to be another documentary about the Kelsey again this time with Taylor Swift and it’ll be a monster success cuz he’s got the marketing machine behind him and nothing can stop it is such a runaway

Freight train that it can run over the fat Kool-Aid Man coach and no one cares but if he fell yeah but if he fell or if he was black if he broke his hip or if he were black if either of them were black either of them if Andy Reid

Were black we’d have a different incident as well no the enemy got trampled there before how I feel like if he’s sorry like just go and go to jail for a couple days like volunteer to serve the punishment yeah you admitt to a crime just go you know community service

Whatever no am I crazy it is AA it doesn’t mean it exactly right I mean he crossed his fingers when he said I’m sorry is lying holds up in court by the way that’s what I do okay D you know what day it is right it’s Valentine’s

Day well a no not pitchers and catchers P Jessica how did you feel about our show’s Valentine’s G Day gift to you I mean it was fine what lunch will be better I actually have a Valentine’s Day gift for youou Jersey yeah Dan you want the Valentine’s Day gift I have one for

You too H you know what that means I do the music the music’s grown on me I got to be honest great it’s time for Against the Spread and sponsored by draftking stay tuned and you’ll hear more about draftking and all it has to offer throughout the show DraftKings the crown is

Yours Jessica how are you doing with the airport drunkenness from Sunday in Las Vegas are you are you still okay are you going to be okay I’m going to I’m going to be okay I think I’m probably won’t make make that mistake again Dan which is the mistake just being drunk around

My co-workers never doing that again did you know you have a drunk face it was talked about yesterday no I what was the drunk face apparently you just kind of like look up and Merc just like that tracks cuz there’s a selfie of me on my phone from Vegas just smiling it’s kind

Of embarrassing Jessica you it’s not that you were drunk if you were just drunk that’d be one thing when I was told that you were drunker than Greg Cody who was drunker than I’ve ever seen Greg Cody when you’re erasing his entire drunken body of work with the volume

That you’re speaking with at the airport it’s a level of drunkenness that is sort of the it’s it’s wherever Mecca resides on drunk drunkness I didn’t know there was a drunker than Greg Cody available on the human Spectrum me neither Dan and that’s why I will never make that mistake again there’s an

Investigation cuz you stole not one but two uh Waters you took his glass of water and then there was a mystery bottle of water that you you don’t even remember any of it you stole his drink I do remember drinking his his Diner water and Lucy told me on Monday that he had

Already drinking out of it and that gross me out a little bit it’s like you kiss yeah Chris’s mom basically who’s first who’s first against the spread I can go first if you want all right you’re in charge Billy I’m going to take the uh the coyotes

Plus one and a half over the wild coming off the uh that’s not against the spread yeah plus one and a half and a half that’s a spread coyotes yeah yeah yeah a spre oh that’s because he didn’t say line a spread that’s a spread plus one and a half that’s hockey

I can’t pick football that’s you could just pick them to win winning by more than a goal is is not that plus one and a half Mone line is spread you want to apologize for not understanding for not knowing the rule yeah go to jail quite literally the

Spread half go to jail Roy what are you doing against the spread uh Panthers at Penguins tonight the penguins have lost no aari for long term right now and uh they are going with seven defenseman tonight but the Panthers have gone back toback games with four goals scored they

Have great go iner right now so I’m going to go with the Panthers who are one and a half go favorites on the road against the spr post game no on the road oh Friday maybe Friday no Friday is The Big Show it’s the hockey show oh you can’t do two the

Same day the hockey show the mothership no that’s yeah the Mother Ship of hockey on this next next week then organization yes got it maybe Jessica come Tony you’re not beating that doesn’t give a [ __ ] about sports allegations back here with your you say hockey analysis he

Took the nol aari news very hard uh the Knicks they’re playing the magic plus three and a half I’m going to take the dicks against the sprad I’m going the other way on that one I like the magic at home you have a game got it right here they sha last

Night they’re not doing that right there I like the magic at home the Bulls this is the first head-to-head which like breaks out the head-to-head rules so if Jess wins you ow $500 W amazing what what if I win this you go to jail yeah Tony what are you doing against this uh

Dan UFC 298 this weekend we’ll be doing an MMA hangout location TBD we’ll find that out today when me and Kristen go to the actual location my dad my dad wants to come to one your dad will be next to me we’ll be smoking cigars together uh

We are going to the main event Alexander volovski legend in the featherweight division Elia Spaniard uh I’m going to take him plus 5 and a half round since we’re going against the spread here but Elia is going to be the next Conor McGregor we’re very excited to watch him fight

Plus how many rounds a good way or plus 5 and a half it’s a five and a half championship bout for the featherweight title again again spread a spread is weird in MMA because you have to go the rounds that’s not a spread no but look take rounds show Mike

Yeah point sprad plus 5 and a half he’s plus 105 on the money line of course we’re not not doing money line today we’re doing against the spread today so we’re doing plus 5 and a half Mike Ryan what are you doing uh I wanted to take

The Panthers but Roy took them I wanted to take the magic but Dan took him so I will be taking the Phoenix Suns minus 13 against the Detroit Pistons against the spr what about you watch out for the Warriors Dan they’ve won five straight seven of 10 I believe in Steph Curry

They are taking on the Clippers I said two weeks ago the Clippers don’t be surprised if they win the NBA Finals now I’m saying be surprised if they win the NBA title I am taking the Warriors here minus three at home buy it down to 2 and

A2 if you want Warriors by 15 points at home Warriors minus 2 and A2 again against the we’re going to talk about Simmons versus McAfee Happy Valentine’s Day everyone a no

33 Comments

  1. I love mike ryan and want him to stay on the show but he needs to be sitting in the ep chair when he is on the show… mike ryan makes the show so much more fulfilling with his seamless production and nobody works the boards like mikkey ruiz.. love you miss you mike

  2. I hate the coach blame game…the coach didn't fumble muff a punt or get a kick blocked or have to stop mahomes thats the dc job….he got purdy to score 3 times late down and held the chiefs to 19 through 4 and 3 at halftime…blame purdy kittle deebo and the defense for not being great late…

  3. How is it a betrayl if the defense was just on the field and they give up a touchdown anyways and don't get the 4th down at the goal line and lose because theygave the ball to mahomes ge scored a td and the pressure was too much for purdy?…you like many in the media are playing the results and second guessing cause they lost…no one thought in real time he made a mistake taking the ball first and they did know the rules

  4. As if the 9ers don't hold lol…mike lost money on the game clearly….he seems so bitter…no credit to mahomes…just a total hate fest…hope they three peat and the browns dolphins both miss the playoffs and their qbs get hurt just so mike can feel pain and have to accept mahomes greatness

  5. In that 2nd half mahomes outplayed purdy…that's the difference between those two teams…period….this is what happens when you relly on a avergae qb vs. the best qb late

  6. Mike would rather talk jason kelce and leo chenal than mahomes or travis on the field…that's why I hate mike

  7. David Sampson on CEO pay cuts. "That's not how it happens in the real world."

    What a nothing answer.

  8. Was only familiar with Dan from Highly Questionable over the years. Then about 6 months ago this show came up on my YouTube feed and I been hooked ever since. Even put my 21 year old son on and even he had to admit it’s a good one ❤️

  9. "you don't take money away from the top talent you take it away from the middle and bottom tiers"

    Samson is an elitist prick with a Napoleon complex. When they come to eat the rich, he's the perfect size for an appetizer.

  10. I'm waay closer to being a fan of Brittany Mahomes after that video.. Went right up there in the top 5 of my "Best of SB week."

  11. i’m sorry this Samson guy is an idiot…. I’ve seen it all throughout my business career… These guys who think they’re basically the Dr. House of business and people. Kelce has a 10 year relationship with Reid. End of story. All this BS about losing a clubhouse?? Executives get this wrong all the time. Winning causes clubhouses to be tight, Generally speaking. Not the other way around. You become close knit when everyone is pulling in the same direction. Samson is so confident in things that nobody can prove.

  12. Ha, I love that everyone was ready for Stugotz' recycled Valentine's joke. Pay that man his money.

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