Discussing the ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Mountain West, Florida State, Clemson, and more
All right ladies and gentlemen this is my full breakdown the full shebang on college football conference realignment in the summer of 2024 what do I think is going to be happening within the ACC and then possibly the triple down effects that inevitably will happen with the American conference with the Mountain
West Conference yeah we could get more big stuff and and really where does all this lead if these conference actually expand past 20 teams I think we first have to look at the SEC making a play here and I’m just going to show this graphic this is not like a perfect
Indication of the overall values of these programs but the ACC where they are right now they added Stanford they added kale they added SMU all three of those teams are obviously going to be in this league for the Long Haul they’re not going anywhere I don’t think the ACC
Is getting blown up or anything like that but I do think they are basically going to become whether it’s this summer or next summer a shell League more like a group of five League based on the amount of teams that do end up leaving although although there is a chance that
The ACC even with big losses could still have a stable League that could compete against the Big 12 depending on which teams they’re able to poach from the American and from the Mountain West Conference now you take a look at this you’ve got Florida State you’ve got
Clemson those two teams made a lot of noise especially for Florida State but also Clemson during the season last year a lot of people don’t remember you know there was a rumor maybe a big announcement that Clemson was talking about leaving I think both Florida State
And Clemson are gone to the SEC and I know there’s been no real rumors about the SEC you’ve got their commissioner coming out saying look we’re happy right now we don’t want to dilute any values but think about the SEC they’re still obsessed with keeping it Regional in the
The South if they actually want to add more teams this is the perfect fit it’s Florida State and it’s Clemson and that’s where I think both of those teams will be going this summer I think it’s listen this is coming to a head at some point FSU has made so much stink about
Leaving this conference about trying to argue you know their new argument now is that they didn’t want SMU Stanford Cal in the conference to dilute values those three teams end up joining and now they’re pissed off even though those three teams will not be getting the full
ACC value right away that’s what happens when you join a new conference it’s just like when Ruckers and Maryland joined the Big 10 about a decade ago but either way FSU is trying to do anything possible to get the buy out as low as possible so they can leave for less
Money I think you know in a favorable Florida Court setting they’re going to be able to get out of this horrible terrible grant of rights deal for not minimal costs but for less than has been projected they would pay because I mean the costs are just so absorbant when it
Comes to Clemson I think Clemson is in a similar spot as FSU now the thought is that if they can rally eight teams to vote to leave the ACC the conference can dissolve I just don’t see that happening like there are teams number one you already have the three newcomers
Although I’m not sure if the three newcomers will have that type of power right away but Wake Forest is not going anywhere Boston College is not going anywhere you would think that Georgia Tech is not going anywhere but there is some interest from the Big 10 that’s
Because of the Atlanta area I don’t think it’s happening I think it’s a weird fit with Georgia Tech possibly to the Big 10 this is what I think the Big 10 does but but number one let me just get back to my point and then I’ll talk
About the Big 10 I don’t want to go in a 100 different places My overall point is that I don’t think there’s a big enough incentive for these other teams to say oh yeah we want out of this ACC terrible TV deal because you know teams like Wake Forest
Boston College Georgia Tech maybe NC State they’re not going to be led into the Big 10 or the SEC and the Big 12 is it really worth leaving and uprooting the history of the ACC to join the Big 12 I don’t see it so right now my speculation would be FSU and Clemson
Going to the SEC the SEC evening the number of Conference teams with the big 10 and then the question is do we get really clownish and see if the Big 10 decides to counter with possibly Miami I think the Big 10 is very interested in
Miami Miami fits in the Big 10 they want the geographical footprint in Florida that would be a huge get for the Big 10 does that happen next and really you would have to think there’d be an incentive for Miami to also try and leave the ACC if FSU and Clemson are
Able to get out of this terrible TV deal there’s probably some opening that Miami might be able to take would they be headed to the Big 10 you take a look at a team like North Carolina now North Carolina it’s a little bit more complicated because there’s been rumors
That oh North Carolina and NC State have to be in the same conference people saying that NC State is more powerful than North Carolina I find that very hard to believe I understand NC State is a bigger School in terms of total student body but when you look at North
Carolina not just their football program I mean listen North Carolina and NC State are comparable in terms of football I still think North Carolina at least recently has been a little bit better but that might be recently recency bias certainly North Carolina has not had a crazy good football
Program over the ne over the last decade but their basketball program would be wanted by the Big 10 and I think the Big 10 would be fine if they take North Carolina they could also take Duke and you could keep that rivalry going in the Big 10 and I think if North Carolina
Goes somewhere see right now North Carolina is a really weird one because it’s like they’ve got Duke and NC State attached to their hip there’s a lot of speculation can North Carolina actually go to a different conference without NC State based on the instate laws in North
Carolina but it could be North Carolina and Duke both going to the big 10 those would be pure basketball academic ads by the Big 10 obviously neither of those two schools do much in terms of football but I’m just saying normally with realignment you’ll get one conf making a
Big move and that’ll be it that’s why I think FSU and Clemson are the only things that happen this summer and then the speculation starts on Miami North Carolina Duke maybe Georgia Tech I’m sure if the ACC starts going Belly Up You’re going to hear about Georgia Tech
To the Big 10 because the Big 10 wants that Atlanta metro area maybe it doesn’t end up happening but you’re saying that’s going to be something that’s rumored that’s going to be a talking point FSU Clemson it makes too much sense if the SEC wants to expand to
Match the Big 10 those are the two schools you could also make an argument and say Miami instead of FSU and then maybe FSU to the Big 10 all right I could buy that I don’t know if FSU has the academics to make something like that happen going to the big 10 you
Could also say the Big 10 is done they’re at 20 teams they don’t want to dilute it anymore they got their West Wing just like I predicted they would get because the idea of just two West Coast Schools and all of the travel is so out of control and that brings me to
The next point if FSU and Clemson do leave you know you can say big 10 SEC wherever wherever they end up going the ACC is going to try and immediately replace those and where does the ACC look I think they look out west because they want to mitigate the travel issues
For K and Stanford and you’re looking at teams like a San Diego State you’re looking at a team like a UNLV in Las Vegas yep and you’re looking at possibly in the American Conference maybe a Memphis as another option now Memphis is getting a big- Time Stadium renovation
San Diego State just got a brand new stadium these are stable group of five programs that the ACC and this is why I think the ACC is still going to be around because they were proactive they added teams before they even lost anyone that’s smart that’s what you should be
Doing that’s what the Pack 12 failed to do you go on the offensive and then when you lose teams you at least already have the team supplemented you’re not scrambling you know you can make your arguments Kel Stanford SMU how much value do they really bring in terms of
Football and you know probably not much but just in general those teams are still they were two of them were at least power five teams SMU is a team that has a lot of boosters a lot of nil opportunities they’re joining a conference that they could see as
Winnable and the conference the ACC I think will stay together the issue is for the ACC does it f fly cannibalize and then the other issue is how clownish do we really get with these conferences I’m talking about the big 10 and and maybe even the Big 12 if things go crazy
Bad maybe some of these lower end teams like a Georgia Tech would look to the Big 12 I’m sure the big 12 would be very interested in getting that area getting into that area and and then you’ve got a team like Miami I think Miami would at
Least get to the Big 10 or the SEC but the clownish nature of college football to where we’re talking about 22 24 team conferences at a certain point all of this is going to have to be changed to where the entire structure I think is going to have to be redone because the
Conferences are just going to be too big to the point where if you’ve got a 24 team conference you could have three or four teams that have a claim at making their conference Championship game it’s not like there’s a hundred games in college football every year you know
Every team has a hundred games on their schedule it’s a limited number of games so if you get bigger and bigger conferences these teams are not going to face each other in the regular season and you’re talking about three teams tied with an 11-1 record and none of
Them faced each other in the regular season it is a complete mess at a certain point and I think 20 should be the limit I think this is it let the SEC get their two teams the ACC can counter with you know some American teams maybe scooping up Memphis maybe scooping up I
Know Bo people are talking about Boise State Boise State believe it or not even though they’re a really good school they’ve got a great history they’ve got one of the best winning percentages in FBS they uh you know in terms of realignment are not very attractive because of their TV Market because of
How small of a school they are and things like that so in general this is what I believe is going to happen look more things could happen but I do think FSU and Clemson end up in the SEC this just fits the SEC too well you could say
It’s going to be Clemson in Miami instead of FSU and then maybe FSU to the Big 10 I don’t think the Big 10 is going to be adding anyone this summer that’s just my speculation maybe it’s wrong maybe the Big 10 says we want 24 teams
We want to get into Florida we want to get into Georgia and we’ll take Georgia Tech maybe we want the Rivalry and the academics between Duke and North Carolina all of those are potential options what I will say is I’m fairly confident that the ACC will still exist
You already have the three teams you’re going to have Boston College you’re going to have Wake Forest I mean you know Boston College and Wake Forest nothing against those programs but they would be in a similar spot that Washington State and Oregon State are in if the ACC went fullon implosion because
I I don’t think they would be wanted by the Big 12 at that point like NC States a program the Big 12 would certainly be interested in Georgia Tech has a program the Big 12 would certainly be interested in Virginia is a program we’ve heard rumored to the Big 10 because of their
Academics and their basketball Prestige but if you’re just asking me right now it’s like Boston College Wake Forest the three that just joined Virginia Georgia Tech NC State Virginia Tech you’re getting to like seven or eight schools I don’t think any of those schools are leaving the conference so even if they
Do lose the big boys FSU Clemson North Carolina Miami even if they the the key thing for the ACC is somehow keeping the Duke North Carolina rivalry that’s so key for the ACC so key even if they lose some of these other schools I mean because the thing you have to understand
Florida State’s never been good at basketball Clemson’s never been good at basketball Miami you know they’ve had some runs but they’re a weird team with basketball it’s not like they have a great history it’s not like you’re losing much for basketball if you want
To try and swing it if you are the ACC and say look this is tough maybe the ACC goes on the offensive and says we want Gonzaga for basketball although that really wouldn’t make much sense based on the travel and I I highly doubt Gonzaga would do that they would more rather
Join the Big 12 at least that’s always been the rumor but either way I do think the ACC will stay together they will go on the offensive after losing two teams and possibly try and get Memphis and then they’re going to want another team out west because the travel issues you
Want at least one maybe two teams from out west and that’s when you look at teams like San Diego State and like UNLV in Los Vegas those be the two teams I would look at if they do decide to go to the American Conference you would be
Looking at a team in my opinion as long as they get their Stadium renovation like Memphis possibly to join the ACC if they end up losing multiple teams I think the key thing will be obviously the first Domino what happens to FSU and Clemson are they even able to get out of
This are they gonna like they have to be able to get out of this it’s it’s been far too long where FSU was publicly shaming the conference saying the reason we missed the playoff was because the conference was so bad it’s it’s thought of as terribly you know FSU is in really
Bad standing right now with the ACC and Clemson they’re not as heavy in terms of their public statements but behind the scenes Clemson is certainly trying to get out of this league no doubt about it it’s just based off of numbers and just how asinine and how horrible this deal
Is with ESPN where it’s through 2036 you’ve got SEC and Big 10 teams making almost double what FSU and Clemson are making and they’re going back to the negotiating table before FSU and Clemson so it’s a double whammy I mean it’d be one thing if this TV deal was over in
2026 no it’s 2036 it is the NeverEnding horrible situation that’s why FSU is making such a big deal out of this and I do think they will be able to get out of this league somehow this summer it’s just gone on far too long at this point
They’re going to get out Clemson’s going to get out I think they both go to the SEC based off of the way the SEC has expanded keeping that southern footprint and then the question is does the Big 10 really try and go crazy and maybe go to
22 teams or 24 teams I don’t think it happens yet but I do think the ACC will immediately try and replace FSU and Clemson with possibly teams from the Mountain West Conference maybe you could say Washington State and Oregon State but you also have to wonder and this is
Nothing against Washington State and Oregon State are Washington State and Oregon State more valuable than a San Diego State a UNLV or a Memphis and you would have to think all right Oregon State’s probably more valuable they just got their Stadium renovation but I don’t know those teams do not have good
Histories let’s just be honest so it’ll be interesting to see what happens but either way guys that is going to do it for this video make sure you follow me on X link to that’s always in the description
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UConn to the SEC!
Man…it’s 2024! Why are you showing a revenue sheet from 20111 as a point of reference 😂! I’ve seen enough already. FSU is in the SEC? Oh, OK 😂!
I doubt the SEC takes anymore schools. Theres a reason there is only 1 school per state beside the few exceptions. Texas has the market to support 2-4 teams in one conference and the other states have their power team and their secondary team.
UNLV is terrible at football so is SDSU. They have no value and their media markets aren't good enough to make up for the bad play. They also do not have the athletic budgets to be able to send their smaller teams to the east coast.
I think that the only ACC team that the SEC would have enough interest in is UNC.
If I was the B10, the first two teams I would want are UNC and UVa.
Question, does Miamis value on that graph for let’s say the Big10 diminish if FSU goes there first?
Not sure how the ACC adds more teams from the middle of the country and the west coast without changing the conference name.
USF to the ACC
This don’t sound right bro going by this you the SEC to stay the best while the big ten gets worst lmao at this crap the big ten ain’t taking scrubs this is about money and football if you suck your done GT , VT , Miami , pitt , Duke it’s big 12 or nothing for ya youve done nothing for the ACC lol
FSU & Clemson to the SEC & UNC & Duke to the B1G
I really want a wac situation where the size makes the conference implode on itself
FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Miami to the B1G. North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, and Duke to the Big 12. The SEC could pick up two more teams, but they really don't like picking up more than one team per state. I think the only way the SEC goes to 20 is if Notre Dame is willing to join. Maybe the SEC takes Pitt with Notre Dame and NC State goesto the Big 12.
Watch for UNC and UVA to move together to the Big Ten.
B1G wants Virginia, NC and FSU is my understanding. They might would take Miami to round it out but idk. For B1G its about academics too. Being part of the research association.
What self respecting program that's currently apart of the ACC would want to be a part of the conference without FSU and Clemson?…that's basically a mid major conference, and the only programs I can see wanting to stay after that is teams like Louisville who's history is with these lesser programs, and the perennial ACC bottom feeders like GT, Duke, Boston College, Wake, Virginia, Syracuse and such. That my friend is a sad sack of opponents. I certainly would want my team to exit this pathetic group.
I'm sorry but I have to ask. Are you just making things up, or is it wishful thinking on your part? You have the Pac12 making more money than the Big12 & ACC on your chart, and they only have 2 schools! Where are you getting your information? 🤔😔☹️ Dude please!
ESPN holds all the cards in the future of the ACC. The exit of the football powers as FSU & Clemson will allow ESPN to re-open the ACC TV contract. All ESPN needs to do is ditch the ACC TV contract or even low ball the ACC on the contract renewal. FOX will not run to the rescue just like the PAC was left out to die. All the ACC schools left by the P2 will then scurry to join the Big-12. The ACC may still survive by adding G5 schools, however their P5 status will be lost.
No way those G5 teams go to the ACC. The Cal States don't even grant doctorates (save for education). May as well resurrect Cal Tech football and add them in. 😂
UNC and ncsu are a pretty locked up package deal I actually think Duke and wake would be the schools on the outside looking in out of the NC schools
If anything the SEC should take north Carolina and one of the Virginia schools to lock up those states, then maybe fsu and probably Duke. Clemson adds no value what so ever
You know, a few seasons ago I wanted the group of 5 teams to get more recognition , and it has happened only because of conference realignment….😂😂😂
The SEC isn’t adding anyone else and they obviously aren’t obsessed with keeping it regional considering they just added two schools from the southwest.
Here is what MAKES NO SENSE: getting all powerhouse teams in your conference. You are going to lose a lot of games doing that. Every conference needs some CUPCAKES in their league. Grab Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia, and Georgia Tech. Also, Boston College's Sports Market would be a great Big 10 Fit. Cal and Standford should be allowed in the Big 10, Again you need Mid Tier and Cup Cake Teams. Plus Cal and Stanford are both ACADEMIC POWERHOUSES with LOTS OF MONEY. Also, by grabbing Standford, you FORCE NotreDame to go to the Big 10 because you could simple deny them access to all of their rivals: Standford, USC, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana, and Penn State. Also, Boston College and Syracuse have great sports markets. why limit them to 20 schools. become a Super Conference and grab as many sports markets as you can.
Clemson, Virginia Tech or Virginia, and FSU you Should go to the SEC.
Yes. FSU will go to the Big 10. Big 10 will own state of Florida market & recruiting with FSU & Miami !!!! The SEC immediately becomes the weaker conference !!!!!
If they can open the floodgates, it makes sense that some teams move. If we know anything it is that it won't make sense or flow.
FSU and Clemson to the Big Ten to get them to 20
SEC also moves to 20 with UNC, NC St, UVA, VT (they decide to lock down 2 new states and not upset the others adding)
Big 12 adds Miami, Pitt, Louisville, GT to go to 20 but decides now is the time to move to 24 before the others and also adds Syracuse, Duke, Wash St, Ore St
ACC adds Memphis, Boise St, App St, Tulane, UConn, UNLV, Nevada, NM, NM St, Temple, SD St, Rice (or UTSA)
Of course, none of this will happen
Geographically I thought VT would be a great fit in the BIG. They already complete with Penn State in recruiting.
Ahhh yes, a reduced share for all new teams till the next media deal, enjoy.
Traveling is the problem.
The value of ACC will plummet when FSU and Clemson bail. B12 will get 4 ACC teams. No way ACC survives. B12 value will slightly raise. B12 will be half the value of P2 for TV. B12 will have access to playoff. MBB is leverage for B12. VT, Louisville, Gtech, NCState, and Pitt will be candidates. If Miami can’t get in they will come to B12.