Was Arthur Smith The Right Hire For The Pittsburgh Steelers?

Arthur and Deke discuss if Arthur Smith was the right hire for the Steelers!
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Arthur Smith OC highlights the entire day yesterday LOL I’m very excited what he could bring to us salute um I wasn’t expecting that I’m liking it though man uh in all seriousness man when you talk about him as a offensive coordinator yeah you go back to you know the Tennessee Titans

Time frame was it 2020 2021 where he was the OC down there and you look or excuse me not 2021 uh 19 and 20 excuse me on that one tny Hill’s first year there and then the second year where they actually went to the AFC champion ship um yeah

You look at what both Derk Henry and Ryan tanah Hill were able to do those two seasons under uh Arthur Smith and there is no you know real surprise in the sense of why it would be a little appealing or why it would be very appealing to the Steelers when you just

Think about Tanana Hill and Derrik Henry during those two seasons and how both of them the uptick and production specifically not Derek Henry but Ryan tanah Hill you look look at what Ryan tanah was able to do he started what 10 games his first year there taking over

Midway through the season for Marcus Mariota but then he comes back the next year I think he went 30 and seven in terms of uh 33 and 33 and seven not to mention we always get enamic with Kenny pickets winning you look at his winning percentage the amount of games he won

Under those two seasons as well with Arthur Smith as the offensive coordinator you had that also going on um tan also had led the league in passing attempts in terms of the yardage for pass ATT so it was an explosive element as well they had like the least amount of

Attempts but they were like 20th or something passing yards shots it was an explosive element to it also but like we said man it was one of those things where if you just went off of what you perceived Ryan tanah Hill or what you perceived uh Derrik Henry to be in

2019 yeah you would have thought that was impossible but when you actually cut on that tape and you actually look at what they were able to do from a full body of work standpoint even statistically it showed that they were actually very productive and Arthur Smith specifically as a offensive

Coordinator was very productive and that was the thing that um you know as we take it back to you know the Steelers we kind of talked about this on Monday prior to the hire being official we said that man there is some similarities when you talk Kenny picket and Ryan tanah

Hill when they were transitioning tannahill was in his sixth season 31 years old when this happened also for him I know we get you know caught up in Kenny pick’s age oh he’s an older quarterback he’s not a young dude he’s not a rookie it’s like man he’s

Still is younger both playing wise and age- wise than where tanah Hill was when he finally clicked and then within two years of being under Arthur Smith went on to be a pro Bower get the contract take St FC championship game Etc so with

That it’s like for me man I just I do feel like there are some parallels now it’s not to the same extent but I do feel like there is a lot of similarities in that is why for me man I kind of agree with Nano that yeah I I am kind of

Excited about what he could potentially bring to this team right now specifically on the offense yeah I think flat out the more we get removed from the decision actually being made I think it’s just a good hire mhm I know when they initially announced it yesterday I was like ah man seems a

Little quick we only interviewed three guys and it was Jared Johnson Thomas Brown and Arthur Smith and of those three Arthur Smith was the most qualified for sure I was just thinking and they’re like man you know can we bring in more guys can we cast a wider

Net but are any of the guys we would have brought in definitively better right now as an offensive coordinator than Arthur Smith no they’re not definitively yeah that you’re going to have to deal with the speculation element of it yeah you could talk about preferring a different style right a

Style that makes Steeler fans feel better right now because it could be more associated with Shanahan MC the C the the QB Guru yeah uh type of scheme you know what I’m talking about those type of guys cuz Arthur Smith isn’t really that at the same time when he was

An offensive coordinator he was just flat outright successful production is production they like Tennessee Titans for those two years were top five offense it was more run based but still yeah some might even say it was QB friendly in the sense of how it did simplify for ran tanah Hill and made him

Become a lot more efficient passer and a lot more explosive passer while minimizing turnovers also which was very different than what was taking place in Miami in Miami it was here you got the full keys to the car spread this offense out be the guy and he could not do that

At a high level for four years ultimately why they essentially gave him away in trade it wasn’t like they requested a ton of assets for him it was a fourth and I think it was a conditional late round so even with that it’s like man this is a dude that you’ve

Already seen you know have to go from being somebody else’s failure being somebody else’s bottom of the barrel or scrap pile and he developed that and he didn’t do it from the beginning because remember Marcus Mariota was the starter yeah they brought in tanah Hill to be

The back an afterthought they made that switch Midway and then tan got right and then tanah Hill got on the move and train really played well that 10 game span but that following year when he had a full off season as the guy that’s when

You saw the big jump and now tanah Hill became who we view tanah Hill as you know and that’s one of the things that when we’re looking at Kenny picket we’re not even CL we’re not even at the halfway point of where tanon Hill was during that time frame both first round

Picks though both bring certain things to the table but at the same time both leaving stuff to be desired and that’s the part like I said for me where I could just see why it would make sense or why they would like it specifically when they’re talking about wanting to

Give Kenny picket a legitimate chance to be qb1 want and Kenny picket to have a legitimate chance of developing I’m glad you brought up you know the speculation of if it was a Zack Robinson or if it was a gerro Johnson yes in theory we like where they come from yes in theory

We like what they’ve done as QB coach pass game coordinator but neither have had their own offense as coordinators and had success whereas you brought up Arthur Smith has my next thing was this though well even Kings barer enemy some of the proven guys like you look at them

Being play callers you you can make the case Arthur Smith is a better candidate so this was my next thing though the same way we’re going to hold what happened in Atlanta as the end all be off for Arthur Smith shout out to you uh cric chman if we’re going to hold that

Against him that was his first failure as a NFL promotion right because he started as a quality control coach which is the bottom of the barrel 2011 so you mean to tell me he went from quality control coach success tight ends coach success or offensive line coach success tight ends coach success offensive

Coordinator success head coach was the first time that he experienced failure and failure in the sense of seven and 10 seven and 10 seven and 10 not what we’ve seen in Cleveland when we talk Q right we’ve seen failure failure wasn’t the Matt rule we’ve seen failure failure it

Wasn’t even the Joe judge we’ve seen and Arthur Smith didn’t have the best of quarterbacks down there you know what I mean so it’s like we can go down that rabbit hole if we truly wanted to keep it Apples to Apples but the other thing that I would say is this

Man de the same way in life people work their regular jobs right and they might specialize at this one particular day you might love just editing this and yo you so dope at that man and now you get a promotion and your promotion might come with okay you not

Just editing now you overseeing these people too while you still doing this shoot you might love this you might be dope at this but you might be like bro I don’t really care about managing his feelings I don’t really care about getting the schedule ready I don’t

Really care about taxes I just wanted do this one thing I’m great at this but you get up here okay you got to do all that and if you don’t your company fails right so as a whole you failed but does that mean that you still forgot how to

Do this one thing that we’ve seen you have legitimate success in and that’s what I look at when I think of Arthur Smith when we bring up this Falcon situation versus him everywhere else specifically Tennessee Titans where you saw him Ascend and never fail that’s what we’re hiring him to be coach

Seriously it’s like we’re not asking him to go back to the position that we saw him fail at we’re asking him to go back to the position we saw him Thrive at so why is it that we can watch him Thrive to get to the head coaching spot but now

That he failed at the highest promotion that you could get as an NFL coach now we just going to hold that against him and say that you know what you can never bounce back you can never get back to the successful offensive coin that you were because you ain’t used bej Robinson

Kyle piss and Drake London I don’t care about you having Drake or I don’t care what you having Desmond Ritter or Tyler haniki you ain’t used those guys so you’re a failure we can’t ever have success from you again that was my biggest disconnect with just the overall

Reactions to the Arthur SPI High I get it he failed as a head coach but head coach versus so toy so the next sa so did Bill bich we I mean guys that have failed as head coaches before Andy re has fell before he’s fired before right

P c fell before he fell twice now he got fired twice it’s like what you see dudes get fired before come back whether they come back as head coaches or specifically as you brought up DC’s or OC’s and have success Wade Phillips right so that’s my thing it’s like why

Can’t this be the same because he’s very much more in line for that than the other guys that we’re bringing up that are more relatively unknown that was my whole like I said even The Proven guys you could compare Arthur Smith resume to any of the dudes the enemy Clint kubak

Or even kingsberry like those those unless I’m missing names like those are these are the names we’re talking about the bemy Clint kubak Kingsbury Gerard Johnson we say because Robinson’s off the table Thomas Brown had got uh he I think he took the Chicago I want to say

Pass and game coordinator I I didn’t want him yeah I think yeah I think he’s like pass and game coordinator now in Chicago so it’s like but these are all the names that were kind of like linked to us at least yeah so who out there was definitively better kingsberry they had

Some decent offenses with the Cardinals but Smith with the Titans as the other that was top five yeah kingsberry you look some of the numbers they were they were hovering around top 10 now I think kingsberry was a better head coach in his three years versus Arthur Smith as a

Head coach but as an offensive play caller case be made Arthur Smith better than kingsberry because a lot of a lot of kingsberry success as an offensive play caller too is going back to college right um but you talk about enemy you se he was he was with Mahomes and the

Chiefs and Reed and all that and then he goes to Washington last year if you look at the offensive stats before bemy and then with bemy in 2023 I don’t think they was like that big of a difference now I don’t think he was working with

The best but can’t the same be said for with Arthur Smith like yo you work with the best on Clint KUB I’m surprised by this I thought he was the 49ers OC this whole time he’s their passing iname coordinator the time he was in OC was with the Vikings and those were pretty

Much pedestrian number they were middle of the road numbers Arthur Smith is the only one out of out of all these names that we’re bringing up that like is putting together top five offenses in back to back years with Ryan tanah with Ry it checked off every box and the funny

Thing is D I’m glad that you put emphasis on T Hill because that to me is what gave me more reassurance in it I said if you’re doing this and you have an elite elite quarterback part of me always ask myself man how much are you

Needed because if you got a Mahomes if you got a Aaron roders if you got a Josh if you got a Lamar if you got a you know I mean it’s like these dudes are kind of just put them out there you give them a little they could do the rest but when

You working with a tanah hill especially at that time too man this wasn’t tanah Hill that we think of now this T coming from Miami bro that t Hill T Hill’s got worse since Arthur Smith has left those were his years with those best two years

Of their careers and that’s why I’m like yo when we talked about can’t be that much when we talked about him on Monday it’s like we can’t say that he is a Derrick Henry Merchant or he only was because of Derrick Henry because Derrick Henry before him was not that version

Not both of them he was able to keep it up after but he also got banged up and stuff but those were his best two years but those and that was all under his toage specifically as coordinator man no yeah the other thing I want to bring up

Is you mentioned some of the elite quarterbacks or how teams with certain offenses are you know advancing farther in the playoffs they have Elite guys because there’s that stat everyone’s bringing up that Patrick Mahomes has been in the last six AFC championships yeah so that means a maximum of six

Other teams have made it there as well in the AFC yeah those other teams it was Bengals twice that’s Joe burrow yep Patriots with Brady buffalo buffalo with Josh Lamar Lamar and the Ravens and then tanah Titans with tanah Hill all those other teams got the guy had Elite

Quarterbacks the titans this oneoff team out of the bunch de you they got Ryan tanhill and Arthur Smith was the one at the hel de here I’m not saying it was all Arthur smth because Titans had a good defense at the time they had Mike

Vel as the head coach but we got a good as the offensive I mean as the offensive coordinator Arthur Smith scraping deep was there de is and they had legitimate success oh bro because that’s the thing a lot of Steeler fans have been complaining about one of the things I’ve

Been complaining about with Canada it’s like why why do we give him this job when he hasn’t proven anything what is he proven Arthur Smith’s coming from the outside kind of although there’s there’s been some Steeler connections Steeler thread ways that are popping up because

Him with the Titans you got Vel you got munack but at the same time Ken so if we’re going to do that then we also got to say well he’s under he’s had some laflor in him as well cuz he’s been with him it is outside but it’s just it’s funny of

Course he been around he got some spots there are some Steeler threads uh but yeah he’s legitimately proven to be a good offensive coordinator one giv the opportunity now it’s a small sample size it was two years but he B it 100% backto back awesome years for the Titans and

And my question where Canada didn’t do anything so we got a guy from the outside got a guy who’s had legitimate success all right he had a he had a bad run as a head coach but that’s this is this is one of the ways this is one of

The formulas to get an OC on your staff get a failed head coach who’s looking for a job to go back to the coordinated position that got them to be a head coach and once again I would say this was literally the first time that he has failed in the National Football League

It was him as a head coach everywhere else he’s been promoted promoted promoted so you took the chance and you fa what is the difference between the Falcons taking a chance on Arthur Smith then when he had never been a head coach right and they just F like hey this is

The new up and coming he’s hot let’s go with it right now I know we’re not going to put it like that on Canada because he never had the same buzz but a gerro Johnson and Zack Robinson they’re not proven either right they are very much in similar boats that could have been

Arthur Smith right so you could have bring them in here and they haven’t even done what Arthur Smith has done exactly so that’s my thing it’s like as much as we complained about Matt Canada right and after the fact the big thing was he was never proven he never had say why

Why why and then we bring up Insanity right because they always have to bring that up too man this the definition of insanity well technically when of the definition of insanity B bringing in one of them young dudes that have not done anything in terms of being a coordinator

Not to mention when we specifically also talk about you said Ryan tanah Hill and I’m glad you kept bringing them up who is gerro Johnson’s quarterback down in in Houston CJ who who was Zack Robinson working with out in LA in the Rams who was he working with uh Stafford all

Right all right all right um um I remember now we ain’t bringing him up specifically but at a time Ben Johnson name had got brought up too right it’s like all right they got a Dr go over there which was they looked like a number one office at point in time the

Way they was playing this year but as a whole it’s like man all of these dudes are having success with what some people might deem as not Elite but dang near close to Elite quarterback play or at least playing on that type of level right when we talk golf specifically

This year Stafford we both said what he did throughout his career and then specifically last year and even this year he was still cooking we all looked at CJ stra who’s about to be the Rookie of the Year we already know what time that is and it’s just like man we don’t

Know if those guys are really going to be be able to replicate that with a different type of player but what we do know is man what’s the closer thing that we have right now regardless of how we feel we know at least today we could say

Kenny is probably closer to T Hill than some of the others right now and that’s fine to that’s fine all I’m saying is I like the fact that I’m getting somebody that has at least worked with a piece that is more in line to what we currently have than

Somebody that’s only used to working with Elite type arm a leak this leak and not just speculative like actually like has shown it throughout the course of his season well not that they just haven’t been offensive coordinator either I think the thing that would be different about these hires versus

Canada is you’re getting guys off the McVey shannah Henry yeah that that that alling tree it it just it sounds good I’m with it it sounds good bro but that’s my whole but I like ultimately yeah I think Smith’s the more quality candidate over any of those guys he

Might be the top guy right now as weird as it sounds like the the top OC guy that was available that’s my I’m being serious cuz if you just look at the landscape you look at even some of the guys that got hired like Ken Dy got

Hired by the Browns Arthur Smith versus kend Dorsey I take Arthur Smith and I told you how I felt watching kend dorsy and buffalo I didn’t feel like he was the reason to be fired but at the same time there were legitimate things from a mindset of how you call your Cs and

Specifically just the intent of it at times like man don’t just call a run play just to like waste it down like give me something that’s legitimate that they could believe Arthur Smith man we already passed that stage he’s already proven that he could do this that was kend dorsey’s first

Time show that he could do it as OC so I’m agreeing with you again man it’s like bro when you really get down to the root of it it’s like yo he Che who you definitively taking better you have certain preferences on candidates but who who’s definitively better yeah I

Don’t know if there’s a guy out there you could bring up Ben Johnson or Bobby slowick but I don’t think they’re leaving well isn’t leaving he’s going back to the Lions because if they’re going to be OC’s why would they leave their OC spots their resp places to come

Here if they’re not being a head coach exactly exactly yeah man I wish we would have done more due diligence interviewed more candidates but at the same time uh if it’s a good decision it’s a good decision why do we got to complain about the process the further we get removed

From the decision actually being made was it a good decision or you know we can’t be happy always we want the come from outside in the moment I want more could we cast the wiet all that stuff but now that I’m really diving deep into this and and thinking through I’m like

Is there just a flat out right good candidate to be an offensive coordinator and we hired him and all right let’s see what he does former head man former head co and he fits the person now if you want to talk about those Titan teams

From 2019 2020 kind of fits what we got going I know it’s not going to be the most appealing thing to a lot of Steeler fans because we do want the the Shanahan the McVey type of stuff at the same time results are results and I’m I’m not

Opposed to running that style that we tried to attain with Canada over these last couple years run the ball protect it and then make the splash plays in the pass when when you’re winning games we saw it once he left sure yeah I mean you

Saw it with Mason Rudolph and like I was very happy with our offense those last four weeks to me we could replicate that I’m fine with it I started thinking of how we looked in Seattle the Seattle game specifically that was the one I said we’re probably going to I feel

That’s going to be our flavor the heavy two running back dynamic specifically how it was in that game because we have the weather like it was in Baltimore and it wasn’t like you know the crazy out the gate throwing versus Cincinnati I think it’ll be like that Seattle approach where it was

Literally we goingon to run the ball we going to be more physical but at times when Mason had to make them throws or whoever QB will be at that time can he pick it right now it’s like those are going to be the areas that they’re going

To have to thrive and that they’re going to have to make it right and that’s what tanah hill was able to do at such a high level and why he you know was able to have the success that he did under Arthur Smith so I’m with you man I like it

Now uh yeah I’m fine with it I what to say yeah and I even like the fact that I know he’s you know people Ain like the F he’s the rich kid or you know his daddy no I love that because he’s grinding in the NFL bro he’s it’s coming to America

They could just sit on an island and margaritas he is this is coming to America in real life I don’t know if you ever seen the movie bro I have not so in Coming to America man you got jeez I can’t believe you never seen Coming to

America de that kind of hurt my heart I ain’t going to lie to you bro it’s all good though okay Eddie Murph Eddie Murphy he’s the prince of the Moon all right has a whole Kingdom just waiting for him just there for him he’s like you

Know what I don’t want this I want to go out here and find love he trying to find love kind of like you de he trying to find love but ultimately he denounced the throne he he gave up all the riches and was working as a mop boy at

McDonald’s it’s kind of like McDonald’s but it’s the janky version all right you imagine you have your own money deck you the man to man like your daddy creative FedEx like Arthur Smith daddy Crea FedEx you dig what I’m saying and you like bro I don’t want this I’m going to go take

The grunt job I’m going to go be the he’s just a football guy I’m going to be a quality control assistant doing note cards for practice squad guys that act like they’re better than me and then I’m going just work my way up I think he was

Living on couches about that bro your daddy created FedEx D your daddy C FedEx you think you want do that you do that it’s blue out here’s a pittsbur he feels Pittsburg man feel bro that’s what I’m saying although it seemed like that was bad luck for him and ATA yeah what was

What was his Tennessee look go get the Tennessee look we gotta find 2020 I think it 2019 we need that look yeah but I’m saying bro good thing I didn’t go with the mustache yeah because I with the clean shaving look we got some time

To play around with it we can figure it out we’ll see what he does yeah we can figure it out but I do like that though man so listen he could do the mustache if the offense is good yeah that’s a statement piece don’t come off right out the gate with the

Mustache no stay humble be as lowkey as possible don’t get that attention unless you bought it get the offense rolling and not even in the the middle of the Season maybe next year depending on how we finish up 2024 maybe you come out with the stash yeah don’t do anything

Middle of the Season absolutely not n I’m with you on that baby I’m with you on that uh okay that was the first one nzito I’ve I just I read his so the next one is fish momentum M de in chat fam what’s good Ash Arthur Smith let’s get it let’s

Get it yeah man said man some positivity some positive vibes with the higher man we do you know the the further removed we are from it man it’s starting to settle in but it does start to feel a little bit better official does start to feel a little bit better official come

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