Check out this webinar recording with Tyler Ferrell, a well-known golf instructor and biomechanics expert, as he explains ‘The Ideal Wrist Positions in Golf.’ This session is perfect for anyone looking to improve their golf game by gaining a better understanding of swing mechanics.
Tyler Ferrell combines his expertise in biomechanics with practical golf instruction to demonstrate how your body and wrists should work together for an effective golf swing. If you’ve been seeking clear advice to enhance your swing, this webinar has you covered.
Key Takeaways from the Video:
-At setup, with a neutral grip, the ideal wrist position extension range should be between 10 and 25 degrees. Less extension would indicate a weak grip, while more would be strong.
-More important than grip position is grip strength consistency; using a neutral grip more often than not is best.
-At impact, the goal is to be 15 to 30 degrees more flexed than at the start; without this movement, flipping becomes a problem.
-Focus on the 9 to 3 drill (halfway back to halfway through) to determine the root cause of your wrist issues at impact.
-Being too extended at the top of the swing should be avoided; look for +5 to -10 degrees from the setup position.
-Problems in the takeaway, like adding extension as the first move, an early hinge, or an upper body sway, will lead to poor wrist action and more inconsistency in the golf swing.
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So we will start with our first presenter uh Tyler Ferell uh who is the uh only person in the world named to Golf Digest list of best young teachers in America and its list of best golf Fitness professionals America uh he’s a golf instructor and also an expert in
Biomechanics he has unique ability to communicate how your body works in the golf swing and uh how both can work uh together um better if you’re tired of piecing together random tips you finally want to understand how everything fits together then Tyler Ferell is the right coach for you so then without any
Further Ado uh let’s launch the presentation by Tyler fedal that he has prepared and after that uh Tyler will join us uh for a short Q&A uh so write down any questions that you have so we’re launching the presentation now hello golfers and welcome to uh the hack
Motion swing analysis go uh guide here presented by me Tyler frell in golfmart Academy um so in this series I’m going to show you how to uh get started with the data so I’m going to assume you already know how to set it up how to
Collect the data and you have a a bunch of swings but you’re not sure how to interpret them um so we’re going to dig a little deeper into how to analyze your swing and how you can use hack motion uh to speed up that process so when you’re
Analyzing your swing with hack motion uh there’s lots of different approaches um I’m not saying that mine is the best but this is the one that works really well for me um I tend to analyze from setup first on a a big General scale just making sure that you’re not um kind of
Horribly out of positions and then looking at impact ultimately the GOL golf ball is going to fly based on the interaction between the golf club and the golf ball so we need to get the golf club to strike the golf ball differently um or we need the golf club to move in a
Way that gives us more consistency in how we strike the golf ball um once we decide what we need to change about the golf club then we want to look at the body and so um we’re going to look at the body both in terms of how the body
Is moving but also how the arms and the hands are moving so the hack motion is great for looking uh very quickly and and very accurately at how the lead wrist is looking um in this program we’re going to focus on the lead wrist we may do another one for the trail
Wrist um but this is all about the leading wrist we’re going to start at impact and then work our way backwards so we’ll go from Impact if impact is off we’re going to look at the top of the Swing to see if that’s uh largely off or
Contributing to uh what’s going on in Impact if that’s okay then we’re going to look at the downswing we’ll break it down into the transition um or the release often times what your wrist is doing is a result or a complement to what your body is doing uh during the
Down snd um and if those are um okay or let’s say we’re trying to work on those but we’re still kind of fighting it um having some trouble then we’re going to look at the back swing we’ll break the back swing into the takeaway and setting
The club at the top um so in this program you’ll see some sections below where we’re going to cover each of these major uh sections whether it’s the setup the impact top of Swing position the down swing or looking at your back swing okay for setup from the body perspective
Um we’re just gonna I’ll have some videos to help you with kind of your body position you might have to use some video to complement uh the data that you’re getting from the hack motion the hack motion is going to help you um standardize as well as get more
Consistent with your grip um so when we’re looking at the lead wrist the main parameter that we’re going to be looking at is the amount of extension or flexion in that wrist but for for most people it’s going to be a little bit of extension uh John ROM’s fairly flat we
Can see a little bit more extension here with uh Justin Thomas from the posture we want to be relatively balanced over our feet we want to be um kind of hinging from the hips and have our spine in a good position to rotate um and
Extend and we want to have the arms and shoulders um connected but also uh not uh in a case of or a state of extreme tension so they’re hanging a little bit um with good alignment in the direction that we want to swing so these are some
Rough guides but we’ll have some other videos in the setup section when we’re looking at this extension parameter here’s kind of a a spectrum this golfer here has a lot more extension in the wrist a little bit of an extension and then virtually none so
I’m not here to say that one is better than the other um I have a video to help you understand how the key is matching up how your grip matches to your your sternum or your body position basically what’s going to happen is when you swing
A golf club your hand’s going to fling away from you and it’s going to air towards getting into a neutral lineup um whether it’s this way or this way kind of depends a little bit more on the shoulder and some of the form rotation but it’s going to tend to want to um
Snap into more neutral alignment as the forces of the club are pulling on it so what happens is the more that you grip your uh hand on the um underneath or on the side kind of over this way the more that the wrist is going to be an
Extension and when it St snaps towards neutral you can see that that closes the face and that hits the ball low and far and we call that more of a strong grip if the grip is more on top or uh more kind of this way where um it’s more on
The left side then as it approaches that neutral position you can see the club face is pointing more to the right compared to when it was on the side or underneath and so uh when it’s more on top we call that a weaker grip it it
Tends to hit the ball a little bit higher um and it requires some different uh matchups in order to square the club so I’m not going to say that you have to have one perfect but as a rough um kind of general guide somewhere in the uh 10
To 25 degree range is probably uh the window for neutral um less than that would be more considered a weak grip and then stronger than that would be definitely considered a strong grip 25 I might even consider a strong grip um but the actual number is not as important as
The consistency of the number well we’ll talk about that in the next Slide the other thing to factor in is you can see that these golfers have a similar amount of extension but because of the body positions one golfer being more behind um that will actually create a little
Bit more arm rotation which will strengthen the grip um so we can’t just go off of that number and determine if it’s a strong weak or neutral grip uh but it gives us a really good indication especially if we’re using some face on video uh to match it up like I said the
Bigger goal is trying to get some grip strength consistency so this particular golfer you can see in their course of 11 different swings it went from basically flat at minus1 uh to -12 so changing 10 or 11° is probably a little bit too much um now it’s possible that this golfer
Was working on the grip in which case okay good job you were changing your grip pattern um but if you’re trying to be more consistent uh the hack motion will help you zero in or know um kind of how far away from having a repeatable consistent grip you’re having each time
So goal is consistency somewhere in that neutral range um so I’ve got the video on matching where is this body position with the uh General position position of the grip but as a Rough Guide we’re going to say that at impact our big goal is to be 15 to 30° more flexed than
Wherever we started so if we start with let’s say uh as an example if we start with 15° kind of like this then at impact we would want to be anywhere from 0er to 15 flexed if you started with more 45 um then you would want to be
Somewhere in the uh 30° extended to 15° extended range so one of them would look kind of like this at setup and you can see as I move my hands forward I’m going to lose some of the the extension um so that’s one of the big reasons why we
Tend to see this pattern with uh Tor Pros is because you can see in both cases the arms are going to be or the handle is going to be more forward of the golf ball than where it was at setup and the simple Act of getting it more
Forward requires that the wrist get into a little bit more flexed position um than where it started unless you have a super strong grip in which case you could get it forward with a little bit more owner deviation but that’s only in extreme cases for most people we’re
Going to our goal is to get to this um impact position where we basically have a flat left wrist um because we’re assuming that we have more of a normal grip and just for comparison you can see a this collage where we’re going to look at a bunch of different golfers here um
All from John Michael Fields YouTube channel if you’re looking for good uh camera angles good swings uh he does a great job um so here we’ve got more flat left wrist little bit more extended here um that’s why I’m saying it’s not a absolute that has to be perfectly flat
It just has to be um more flexed or less extended than where it was at setup Okay so the way that that shows up on video is that flat flat left wrist the the way that you can quickly look at it um on hack motion is looking at where the
Flexion extension line is crossing the impact line compared to where it’s set up so you can see that shapewise these are somewhat similar but this pattern here we’re crossing impact down here this is 20° less than where it uh where it was at setup over here you can see it’s
Crossing here this is about 5 or 10° more um Extended than where it was at setup so even though the pattern or the shape looks pretty good um the value of when it’s Crossing tells you that the timing and the way that these golfers are using their wrists is different in
Fact this one over here um is this swing here that I was making to try to get more extended and you can see how Scoopy or flippy that looks like so if we are starting with the premise that we want to have a good impact position this is
The first thing that we want to look at is where is the risk position at impact and in general if you’re struggling at impact uh with this lead wrist position it’s going to tend to be too um Extended it’s rare that it’s going to be too Flex
So that twoo extended position um we’re going to call flipping at impact now um too M too much extension at impact uh which we call flipping could come from two different uh scenarios in this case the uh the two different scenarios would be they you got into enough flexion at some point in
The downswing but then you just lost it so if our goal is to be 15 to 30° less extended than where we were at at setup here you can see this golfer started at plus 20 and they got to slightly below zero here in transition so so they they
Flexed it enough but then you can see impact was basically the same at setup so even though they flexed it enough in transition they had a tendency to kind of stall and flip and let that angle out the other option would be if you just never got enough flexion some
People will tend to have a lot of grip pressure and um if you keep that grip pressure and the wrist doesn’t move then the the wrist will stay extended uh for the majority of the Swing so this golfer will call them not having any or not having enough flexion in downswing so
They never got into that 15 to 30 um increased uh wrist flexion category here’s where they started at somewhere around Plus 8 and then we can see at their Peak they only got down to zero so they only flexed it a few degrees um or you know compared to where they were at
Setup here’s another case where again uh maybe flexing 10 degrees or so um and so at impact they’re more extended than we want because they never got enough of this extension so that’s going to be one of the root causes of flipping and this is going to be one of the most important
Parameters that you’re going to be checking uh when you’re using the hack motion system now unfortunately just because you try to flex the wrist doesn’t mean it’s automatically going to happen so if you’re flipping it impact and you don’t have enough flexion there that’s one our our big um causes for
Intervention that’s one of the things that’s going to give us a lot more um consistency and quality and compression so if you’re flipping an impact what are we going to do about it okay I have a little test for you um which called a 9 to3 test which is basically you’re going
To go out the next session and you’re going to see if you can get more flexion if you do a little half swing if you do a half swing we’re taking away some of the timing and some of the movements of the back swing um so we’re really
Looking to answer the question could you make contacted in a perfect scenario could you make good contact with more flexion on a a shorter slower swing if you’re able to do it on a a slower shorter swing like that so if you’re able to do it on the 9 to3 but you still
Can’t do it on the full swing then it tells us it’s more likely what you’re doing in the back swing or how you’re creating speed in the down swing but if you uh can’t do it on the 9 to3 then it’s more likely telling us that your
Brain just doesn’t quite know how to deliver the club with the the proper wrist position and so we’re going to do more release training now you’re welcome to do release training even if you uh pass the test and you’re welcome to work on the top of the Swing um even if you
Can do it uh but this just gives you a starting point as far as how to uh classify what will um improve your impact position the fastest so um you’ll see that on the on the right in the category of videos we have impact drills first um and then we have some release
Drills and then we have some top of the swing and transition drills that you can go through to pinpoint um the the one or two drills that will help you change the graph the fastest um so release or top of the Swing SL transition so if it’s a release issue our drills in
This section or in the release section are going to focus on the body position at impacts we already said the body position and the arm position have to match in order for it to work out um and then we’ll work on the arm education the other um component to this is where are
You creating your speed um so hitting it more with your body and less with your hands will typically help uh get that wrist to be in a little bit more flexed position as well so we got couple uh big buckets body position arm education and kind of tempo hitting it with the
Body if we’re doing okay with that but we’re still breaking down when we do the bigger swing which is very common a lot of you are going to be in that category then we have to look at the back swing and transition issue um in transition
Simply from the graph we have to look at are we getting enough flexion um but as far as kind of complimentary pieces we want to look at are we putting us ourselves in position at the top of the Swing where we’re too extended um or where we’re powering it more from our
Arms and not enough from the body now one other category that we’ll look at in the back swing is an inside takeaway what can happen when you do too much of an inside takeaway is you run out of rotational room and then your back swing gets very lifty late and when it gets
Lifty you’re going to tend to have more of a vertical um pull of the club and that vertical pull of the club is going to tend to uh mess up the wrist movements we want to get a little bit more General width and we want to get a
Little bit more hitting it with the body in order to get that wrist in that really good uh tour impact position so if we’re circling back to the top of the Swing goals um we’ve got uh avoiding being too extended at the top of the Swing so the general goal is
Wherever you were it set up to be about uh plus5 to minus 10 so basically um 5° more flexed or uh 10° sorry uh 5° more um Extended or 10° more flexed at the top but basically being at about the same um position um if the wrist is in
About the same position then that usually means that I’ve created the back swing more by using my body and kind of finishing and making a really good uh turn or pivot um in addition what’ll usually happen is I’ll be able to to maintain some of the width um that’s one
Of the trademarks you’ll see with really good golf swings if my body doesn’t turn and I just use my arms then the arms will lift right arm kind of or the trail arm kind of gets more into this flying elbow position and the literus gets more into that extended position as it picks
Up and that’s going to tend to encourage you to get a little bit more choppy or vertical um on the way down but the quick way we can look at it on the graph is um by looking if we’ve been too extended at the top or in so here you
Can see where I set up the the top of the Swing is kind of in a close bandwidth to where I set up where here you can see the top of the Swing is way up above it that would be a really exaggerated um extension movement so the
Great thing about the graph is you can kind of get a time or a snapshot of the entire swing all at once which is harder to do on video so that’s one of the reasons I love 3D you can see the whole swing at once and you can see which area
Is most likely causing the other dominoes to be out of whack okay so within range it’s pretty close to the same out of range it’s going to be dramatically above um now I will point out on here uh some golfers do extend uh say a Fred
Couples or um Bernhard longer or uh um Henrik Stenson or some who have a little bit more extension at the top uh but getting a little bit more flat wrist or even Bode uh is the kind of the typical pattern that sets up for more of a body rotation down
Swing now one thing that the app will trigger is if you have a a weaker grip on a certain percentage of your swings um then often times uh you’re going to be more likely to get into this extended position of the top so it’s just going
To w recommend um that you take a look at your grip now remember I said um as long as your grip is consistent and you’re moving it um into an appropriate position to match what your body is doing that’s probably okay but if you
Have a weak grip and a flip and a slice it’s definitely something I would consider working on Okay so we’ve got the top of the Swing kind of figured out let’s talk a little bit about some takeaway problems that could contribute um to the top of swing issue and basically the takeaway
Problems are going to be largely using your arms too much and your body not enough so if I’m using my arms too much it will typically show up in one of two exaggeratedly different patterns one would be adding extension so you’ve probably seen that most of these graphs have more
Flexion uh going on on the early part of the takeaway and then extension uh during the second half and that’s because when you hinge your wrist and set your it tends to want to extend well some golfers will extend right away and um that tends to show up as very much an
Armsy lifting type motion uh but on the graph it’ll show up like this where it’s going positive right away um it’s usually accompanied by an arm lift and occasionally it can be accompanied with an arm roll which makes the club to inside but I would say um the more
Common cause of two inside would be either getting a lot of arm rotation or even more common would be going into that flexion movement too soon especially while having an upper body sway or having your upper body stay in flexion or stay bent over so if it goes
Kind of like this um the wrist is going to flex and it’s going to take the club way inside and then what’ll happen is you’ve kind of used all your around components and so then the second half of the back swing is typically going to be very vertical and very lifty
Um and it’s going to encourage you to then come steeper over the top on the way down that’s the danger of too much inside if you don’t do that if you do come inside and then find a way to still use your body it can be an okay pattern
Um but often times it’ll give you some problem on either wedge play or like half shots um so something to consider when you’re analyzing your swing the an additional component would be having too much wrist hinge in the back swing so um the the lead wrist doesn’t actually
Hinge that much um because the right hands or the trail hand is on a little differently it’ll tend to have a little more extension during the back swing um but the lead wrist is only going to um extend uh I would have said more in the
15 to 20 degree category but the hack motion data shows um more than 35° is kind of excessive it depends a little bit on your grip setup but but more vertical wrist uh extension is also going to be associated with extension of the wrist or wrist hinge is going to be
Associated with extension of the wrist uh so often times what will happen is this golfer will um under rotate get pretty steep here and then if I were to rotate my body you could see that would be very vertical um so this will tend to
Accompany more of a of stand up in kind of a throw or a cast pattern um but uh the important thing here is get good at kind of identifying some of these key benchmarks so is the top of the Swing roughly at the same position where
It was at setup even if it has a little bit of this movement do I then Flex enough during the down swing and am I still flexed somewhere to impact if I’m struggling with one of those components and I try to directly fix it then I need
To look at some of the indirect fixes which would be looking at some complimentary video to see if I can if my body is causing me to have some of these issues and that’s um how to use the arms as well as how to relate the
Body is what we have in these different sections here um in this uh in this hack motion analysis course so um one uh last C uh pattern is in transition um in transition most of the problems are going to show up um on video as kind of
Like a body pattern of either spinning the shoulders too soon or pulling with the arms um hanging back some of those things uh but the one that will show up the most uh on the hack motion sensor is getting extended in transition or not flexing enough in transition so here you can see
This vertical line is the top of the swing and you’ll see it continue to go upward after the vertical line that basically means that during that first phase of transition this wrist is going more like this and that’s of often accompanied with a big arm pull pulling
The club in and then it will almost always accompany more of a um flipping down to the bottom so I call that pattern steep early shallow late and it’s one of the biggest causes of a two-way Miss and a lot of inconsistency so we got a video that can help you
Understand the body components that but it shows up on video looking just like that where it’s or sorry it shows up on the graph like that where it’s going up uh following the top of the Swing okay so the general plan attack we’re going to start at impact and then
Work into the 9 to3 or full swing so we can figure out is it more of a release issue or is it more of a top of back swing SL power/ pivot issue um if we go directly like maybe I just didn’t know what I need to do with my wrist but if
You try it like let’s say you said okay I need to be more flexed at impact and you try it and the graph just isn’t changing then you want to use some complimentary video in order to see why the body position might be fighting what
The wrist is trying to do but then you can use the wrist as the primary source of feedback so as you’re working on your body you should be able to see some of those risk graphs change so that’s going to be our general pattern of starting an
Impact and working better uh backward in the other sections we’ll have more details into the drills that will help either improve the wrist mechanics the body mechanics or help you understand the patterns even deeper okay I think that was uh an excellent presentation by Tyler uh so
Tyler has joined today also us for a short Q&A section uh Tyler you’re welcome to join as well turn the camera and the microphone on so when I hopefully you can hear me uh when I click on start video it says you can’t start your video because the host has stopped
It okay I will check what could be wrong with it um but I can try I can answer you know I see there’s a bunch of questions that came in in the chat made you maybe you can try it uh another time uh to turn on the video
Now there we go that looks like that’s coming okay great okay hey great to see hotel room back backdrop right uh yeah uh so uh today what I uh we have a a couple questions that came in so uh I think let’s focus on some that are more practical so one is about
Explaining how to do matchups of pronation superation and the grip so rotation of the handle then and the grip strength um yeah so uh one of the one of the tricky things is kind of getting on the same page as far as uh pronation superation
Versus um as it as it relates to the anatomy of movements versus what the hack motion sensor is going to present um so the hack motion sensor is going to present kind of the global orientation so if I was to pin my elbow so this doesn’t move this would be pronation and
It would show up as pronation on the hack motion sensor but if I let my elbow move with my arm this would also show up as pronation but really it was it was more internal rotation so typically the stronger the grip the more that you’re going to see a
Little bit more of an internal rotation with this shoulder um or the elbow kind of pointing more in the uh general direction of the target uh so you’ll tend to see a little bit more um pronated setup position um and then as you’re coming through you’ll tend to see
A later and probably a little bit decreased amount of supination on the way through compared to if you have a weaker grip and the forearm gets pointing more um in the direction of the target okay so stronger grips would have less of the superation typically yes yes now anatomically I’d say the supination
Of the forearm is very similar um but the global position is going to show up make it show up so that it’s a lot less okay um then we have a question from Jonathan uh do you have a target number for flexion at P6 uh I would I would tend to say um
Using the impact intervals you probably want to be a little bit more than where you’re going to be at impact so if your goal is to get around let’s say 15 to 30 degrees uh probably somewhere in the 20 to 40 um more Flex than where you were at
Setup okay okay um great then there’s a very practical question from a gentleman whose handicap has gone up uh over the last months and he’s really struggling with turning his hips more in the back swing and he’s asking for the best drill to use to get to the to turn the hips
More in the back swing okay um so there’s two things there one I would I would usually start with trying to identify or figure out why the handicap has gone up has it has the handicap gone up because of either quality of ball striking so solidness of contact ability
To um hit the ball or control direction or um distance control assuming that um we we want to get more hip turn in the back swing that would either create more depth to help with the path um it could create more sequencing to help with maybe avoiding a little bit of an arm
Pull um so there’s a couple good reasons but I would usually start with like the the outcome goal of how are we going to measure that turning more in the hips is helping is it going to help contact or is it going to help direction or speed
Um but as far as the hip rotation one of my one of my favorite ones is just feeling more of a body pivot where if you were to put a club across your shoulders and you were to make a pivot where basically the shoulder was pointing in the general
Direction of the golf ball um what you’ll feel is probably more rotation of the hips and more rotation of the of the shoulders now what I would say is typically golfers who don’t rotate the hips in the back swing if you free it up and you’re trying to rotate your hips
But you’re having a hard time doing it um I would usually look at making sure that the rib cage especially the bottom of the rib cage is rotating um so oftentimes if I’m pulling my arms behind my body then my rib cage won’t rotate very much so feeling like this area the
Bottom of the rib cage is actually rotating more than the arm is pulling you can see when I do that I get some good rotation of the of the hips and the pelvis and the other place to look is at the neck so some people if you’re really
Restricted in your neck range of motion then if you did turn your hips and your head uh and your neck didn’t rotate you have a hard time seeing the golf ball um so this little pivot drill will help you feel the rib cage rotate and the neck
Rotate and those two are usually bigger barriers um to rotating the pelvis rather than just kind of a a feel of certain muscles okay okay excellent excellent answer there’s so so many question questions coming in that I know that we won’t manage all of them but
I’ll try to pick some that could could be really relevant to specifically what you spoke about so one is about uh what is your opinion on setting the lead wrist uh at setup uh so I assume that uh so basically impact set up yeah yeah so
Um I would say I do have probably I don’t know maybe three golfers who are kind of in that 20 handicap range where it’s way more simple for them to just take a setup and then put the left wrist in flexion now I’ve got my when I travel
I I’ll usually use a spatula as the golf club um so you’ll see when I flatten that left wrist um I’m going to close the club face so they will be setting up with the club face pointing left of the Fairway but then that allows them to
Turn and get into that position and it it doesn’t slice so I am I am with it it can um it can potentially create some issues in the back swing but it doesn’t always so it can be a simple approach for for people who would rather just
Kind of like set it and forget it rather than have to feel the movement of getting there okay and then Dennis is asking is there a graph pattern that shows the over the-top move um unfortunately the the superation pro nation is probably going to have the best
Um indication and you might see like indirectly a little bit of wrist extension um but typically the over the top move is caused more from the shoulder blades um it’s it’s basically caused from you get up to the top of the swing and then either this left shoulder
Starts really pulling behind almost like I was doing a row um or that right shoulder starts pushing on top um almost like I was uh arm wrestling and I was kind of uh you know really slamming or winning um those are the two big causes of over the top um
So you will sometimes see that show up in as I go this way the wrist if I do it from the down line as I go that way the wrist will naturally want to go into a little bit of extension um but mostly that over the top is more of a body
Sequencing with a little bit of um arm showing that happens more or less naturally if you’re powering transition from your body MH okay uh and then there’s a question from Mark could you also discuss onner radial deviation in conjunction with flexion extension specifically impact and follow through
Um so uh yes it’s a it’s a a little bit um tricky because down at impact you’ll see you know kind of some noise right but in in general um the the flexion and owner deviation kind of complement each other um and and the wner deviation is typically going to want to start
Somewhere around um shaft 45 kind of in this Zone here um so right around here um you’ve already got some flection and it’s now starting to go into that um owner deviation as we’re turning and it’s going to reach its maximum owner deviation uh somewhere between impact
And follow and uh shaft parallel so somewhere kind of in this zone is where it’s going to reach its maximum before it starts re hinging big thing I’d be looking for is if you tend to kind of pull down and kind of um almost increase that radial deviation um or you start
Losing it too soon that’s going to be more associated with kind of a flip roll pattern that’ll be more associated with like Diggy divots and pull misses um so the owner deviation has a big impact on um on Arc width and consistency so it has a big impact on uh helping to
Prevent the pull Miss as well okay and then one player asking very specific question about if he’s aiming for a flat wrist at the top like tiger or Tommy fatwood what should be the settings at the top of the swing and at impact uh the settings um so if
You’re if you’re trying to get like truly flat then you would probably want it to be set I would say um five degrees extended to about 10 degrees flexed um if you put the setting for the top of the Swing there um that’ll that’ll give you I think here’s an import important
Point that a lot of when you look at the camera you actually don’t see the extension precisely so guys often when you look at let’s say Tommy Fleetwood uh then they actually would have more extension but it would be hidden it would look flat from this angle uh down
Kind of down the line but you when you actually look from here there’s a bit of extension and angle when you make the yeah because you’re not looking like dead in the plane like this yeah they’ve actually gone a little bit past um they’ll they’ll have somewhere you know
10 degrees of extension um but if you really wanted a flat left wrist I’d usually give you you know 15 degree range or something like that but the more important thing is that it’s uh it’s slightly more flexed than where it was at setup I think that kind of starts
You getting in the right position okay all right uh lot more questions coming in uh have to uh check out if there’s any any more that we can quickly manage I see maybe some drills about allar deviation with impact um well one of my favorite things
To do is to do um a simple push ball drill as a impact fix drill um so oftentimes if you just kind of get into your setup position and then you were to go to impact by by moving the hands forward they actually move slightly forward and slightly up to help get the
Club more in line with the uh the club or sorry with the forearm um so as I get to that position I’ll I’ll have a little bit of shaft Lan and the club face will be a little bit closed and so then I’ll be able to feel compression on the ball
Just by going from there to a follow-through position and what you’ll find is if you try to bring it through by re hinging or going into radial deviation and kind of bringing it across like this then what will will happen is the ball will just slide up the face and
It won’t go anywhere but if you maintain that owner deviation with a little bit of flexion and get a little bit of supination but really a lot of body rotation then the ball will kind of stick to the face and you’ll be able to throw it maybe 10 or 15 yards uh down
The Fairway um and so it it gives you more of a sense of kind of calmness or stability through impact rather than kind of a a quick rapid change or or flip Okay so that was I think excellent uh quick Q&A section we have a lot of
More questions coming in but uh I’m sorry guys we can’t manage to answer all of them uh we’ll uh we register all of them and then we can follow all them up and this is actually very good input for Tyler uh for next uh let’s say uh
Content for Crea thing just a reminder everybody who’s uh buying hack motion or has previously bought hack motion gets access to the special uh course on golf smart academy made by uh Tyler and he uh starts with this presentation walking through uh how to understand the data
And then more in detail about the drills that you were referencing yeah if you uh if you save all those questions and send them to me you know maybe I can do kind of like a a little Q&A that I can put on the page where we have this presentation
For those who have purchased the the hack motion sensor yeah okay so if you didn’t get your question answered um be patient I’ll I’ll try to get around to it when I get back from the trip yeah because the more you answer the more questions are coming so we would be
Basically all it looks like uh it looks like there’s a question from Adam Young though uh yeah he’s actually the next presenter so we uh he’s raising his hand that he’s uh ready to he’s ready to go okay gotcha I was I was all getting excited maybe he he found something he
Wanted to throw at me uh maybe him to comment on that okay so Tyler was pleasure having you and then enjoy the PJ show yeah I’ll see you at the open Forum yeah okay right bye bye take care
