On this week’s episode of GOLF’s Subpar, former PGA Tour pro Steve Marino joins Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. He takes us behind the scenes of his famous flight with Ernie Els, being co-leader with Tom Watson at The Open and what it was like playing money games with a young Daniel Berger.
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All right here we go time for another episode of golf subpar with Colt nost and Drew stz hope everyone had a great weekend sorry for the one day delay but it was a little bit of a [ __ ] show for me getting back from Panama shockingly the airline industry things didn’t go as
Plan s they’re normally so dialed in too hard to believe that things didn’t go perfect from start to finish uh uh good news for them unless you want to take a Greyhound down there you got to stay on the a line so you keep coming back to
The well but good to have you back I know that was a bit of a bit of a fiasco getting back here but here we are one day late apologies but thanks for hanging with us yeah obviously it was a tough way to start off 2024 for me as
Far as my travel goes flight got cancelled got pushed back two days going to Panama didn’t get there till Wednesday then coming home was getting ready to land in Houston before I connected here to Phoenix to come see you to do our segments and do an interview and got told with about 20
Minutes ago we’re being diverted to New Orleans cuz we don’t have have enough fuel to Circle and let the weather um move out in Houston so that should feel good that they just calculate that fuel just per if nothing goes wrong we have enough to get to our destination if
Anything we got to go around a flock of birds probably all [ __ ] yeah so we ended up going to New Orleans then flew back to Houston then rushed like hell to get on the early flight to come here bag didn’t make it had to go get it at the
Airport this morning repack head to San Diego for the farmers it’s been smooth Salma man but you got that premium seat right next to the [ __ ] which is by the way after what happened on Alaska Airlines with the doors fly off at least your doors stayed
On your plane uh window not as appealing as it used to be for me window exit row maybe just go past that one from now on yeah I have uh it was in I was very I was the last person on the plane they handed me my ticket 21c I was like oh
Not bad well there was 21 rows on it and I was right there on the aisle about 3T I could rest my head on the door of the toilet uh everyone that went in there they walk out and they look right at me like sounded like everything wentw that
Awkward put your head down don’t look at anyone you can just have a conversation with them while they’re in there hey buddy how’s it going what are you reading good news is the way I’m going to look at it is everything is going to
Be up from here got all the bad [ __ ] out of the way yeah dude everything should be perfect for the rest of the year there’ll be no more we come on and talk about shitty travel situations it’ll be smooth salent but before we get to the PJ tour since we’re talking about Panama
Just want to give a big shout out to the Latin American amateur championship Augusta National the USGA and the RNA the incredible event they put down I’ve been lucky enough to cover this event this is my third year I also do the Asia Pacific amateur Forum have seen some
Great Champions come out of there but this week Santiago DEA Fuente of Mexico his life changed he battled Omar Moralis down the stretch ended up winning by two finishing birdie birdie on 17 and 18 with some incredible shots he has booked his ticket to the Masters the US Open
The Open Championship the US Amer and the British Amer great name also a Spanish for of the Fuente in case you didn’t know that I actually came home from taking my little daughter to Little Gym where she just runs a muck came home it’s like perfect I’m going to get ready
Watch a little football click on oh there’s Latin American amp watch it click it on two holes left tied and I’m like oh this is beautiful get to watch it I mean and then Oscar goes Stony baloney on 17 to about two feet and I
Was hoping for yeah I want to see it neck and neck coming down the stretch and then hits a Missle down 18 beautiful wedge ends up making the putt to win by two but the dude’s facial expression did not change one time the dude was just mean mug Stone Face the entire time
Here’s the and you you were at the um P not the Pacific coast the um what’s the other one Asian Pacific thank you here’s the formula for winning those things don’t be leading going into the final round is a tough door to close when you are you thinking about Masters invite
All the things versus nothing cuz it ain’t like the usam where you get to the finals boom you’re in that’s a pretty big pretty big nug get at the end of the rainbow there uh tough to close for these kids yeah you go back to Australia the Asia Pacific where Samson Jang your
Man your Samson he had a big Le ended up losing in a playoff and then Omar Morales of Mexico who is was the highest ranked player in the field Santiago delente second highest so we had one and two battling out they were miles ahead of third it was awesome to watch
Santiago plays at Houston Omar Texas Tech put your guns up Red Raiders but Omar was leading the entire week had a six shot lead actually with 20 holes to play three shot lead with n to play um but Santiago end up tracking him down quick story about Omar Saturday night
We’re at the Gaya everybody’s coming up to him he’s leading he’s over there sitting there talking to me kind of hanging out and we start talking about Nick Dunlap who won on the PGA tour this week as an Amer but he was leading going into the final round he was talking
About how incredible it is he’s like what do you do if if he wins like does he turn pro does he stay am and all this and I was like well if he wins he gets in Augusta National he’s already in the US Open because of the US Amer Champion
Gets in either way I said loses the Open Championship and picks up the PGA and he’s like he really loses his Open Championship I was like yeah I was like when I turned Pro I had to give that up as well he’s like you won the US amiter
And I’m like Jesus kid where have you been you not have a TV and he’s like he goes what year and I was like 2007 then I quickly realized he was four years old when I won we’re in the era now where no one remembers the new kids count out
Don’t remember [ __ ] that happened before 2015 it’s a beautiful ER it’ll be like when John Cook talked to I remember 1981 I was like yeah that was a few years from even coming on to the Earth right now so we’re in the new era that’s a
Kick in the nuts to you but it will live on forever but getting to Nick Dunlap big week for amers punching their tickets to some M uh major events I’ll tell you this dude when football’s on on the weekend right now we got NFL playoffs and all that football takes
Priority for me I’m watching football and then my previous button goes to golf during commercials I record it so I can catch up and watch all the stuff but that’s typically the way it works this week because it was Nick Dunlap for whatever reason I was in it from start
To finish ESPN plus watching them te off on the first hole the whole thing uh that was an unbelievable cool finish for a guy that I mean really until the 60 in the third round he wasn’t really on the radar like this thing kind of came out
Of nowhere and watching him do it not just do it but to close it against Justin Thomas and Sam Burns and that final round like other than the one swing on seven dude that was impressive [ __ ] and for the whole script to flip by the way on the 18th where he thought he
Had a two- shot lead and then he gets up there about ready to Chip he’s like oh yeah it’s only one yeah I mean he was right up there he was 17 under through two rounds and then went out and shot or sorry he was 15 under through two rounds
A couple shots off the lead and then went out and shot the 12 under 60 at L by the way I don’t think this got talked about enough the guy the other Pro in his group with Drew before the round on Saturday so it was just him and two
Amers playing out there at linta goes out there shoots 12 under 60 and then he’s paired with Sam Burns and Justin Thomas I mean two massive names thought he was going to be really nervous came out looked great hit it close on the first couple of holes had good looks
Stoned it at the par five after he laid up and then just the massive whoops on seven which came out of nowhere but that was unbelievable for him 20 years old just his fourth PGA Tour event ever to to show those stones coming down the
Stretch to do what he the putt on 16 was incredible hitting the green on 17 I mean we saw what pressure does Sam Burns flares it in the water and then the crazy part on 18 I mean hit there was no way that t-shot was going left or the
Second I mean he talked about his cat he’s like our he’s like whether this is right or not our basically our thought process was don’t hit it in the water he thought he had two shot cush the second shot I couldn’t see where it came down
Then all of a sudden it comes rolling down the hill the G someone in the gallery and got a good break but he was still on a pretty severe down slope right there but way better off clearly than it would have been but like to to
Go ahead and get that up and down that is not I mean sass gets all the attention because it’s the players and it is a tough tough closing stretch there but that closing stretch there at Stadium Course mimics it pretty damn closely especially 17 and 18 and it’s
Just two shot lead thinking you got that is Miles different than one but for him to do that dude it was one of the most two final rounds that I’ve had in a long time in a regular Tour event a non- major non- Rider cup I think there’s a
Couple differences obviously 16 at Saw Grass and at the stadium course like they’re Gable part fives you got the crazy bunker down to the left at at Stadium Course and then over at TPC Sawgrass you’ve got the water running there but 17 the big difference in my
Opinion is just the weather like you always get a dome out there in Palm Springs and guys are so good at hitting their numbers if there’s no win they can hit that Island and then 18 you can’t really bail out on 18 at s grass you do
You’re in the trees you’re most likely pitching out here as long as you don’t hit it out of bounds or in the lip of the bunker you’re going to have a shot to get it up around the green but the putty made 5′ n inches I believe to to
Win first person since Phil Mickelson in 1991 to win as an amiter on the PGA tour just incredible now he’s got some decisions to make he’s in the majors except for the Open Championship which he moved up to 68 in the world so most likely he’s going to be in the Open
Championship by the way all the Signature Events so he’s going to get seven of the eight and free money 70 guys no cut free points he didn’t get any points but and it’s basically a three-year exemption because we’re just three events in he’s
All this year all of 25 and all of 26 I think it’s a no-brainer for him to turn pro unless he happens to jump over to live if they throw some crazy money at him but I expect we’ll be seeing Nick Dunlap that that little a next to his
Name will be gone here very shortly yeah I have no inside information I’m not this is just pure speculation I got to think he’s turned Pro and he’s turning pro damn quick he took this week off he had sponsors into Tor not taking it go home regroup life has changed here
There’s a lot to a lot to digest here in the off week but I think you hear a decision sooner rather than later whether it’s at Pebble Beach turn and pro I think you got to take all these Signature Events the money his his stock will never be higher than it is right
Now the only real decision in my mind is you know you hear the speculation you saw a bunch of tweets from Liv guys after he won which I had not seen for other tour winners at the time granted it was history first time in 33 years
And Amer so it’s a little different ball game but the decision is for me if I’m him not to turn pro but do I go to live do I go to PJ tour one way or another I’m turning pro my stock is soaring right now and it’s these are all good
Problems to have good decisions to be making there’s no losing on this for Nick Dunlap but I just don’t see any way that um I mean what what’s left for him other than a national championship and I don’t think anybody on his team at Alabama would blame him no great
Reaction from his team in the team van when he made the putt to win I don’t think any of them would blame him for turning professional but you mentioned the tweets and you saw John ROM Phil Mickelson Hudson Swafford even Greg Norman Jr tweeted didn’t see them
Tweeting Chris Kirk or Grayson Murray I was like I didn’t seen this Avalanche before Greg Norman Jr I just want let you know Nick Dunlap one not Scott Scott Nick gold jacket green jacket although I think he does have like the blue I don’t know I think he’s got the blue check on
T you got an edit button there that’s the beautiful thing about that blue check you could have probably got in there quick after the first 20 people told you hey dude that’s not his real name gone in there and changed it but you know I’m not a PR guy and I expect
Him to turn pro as well if he does stay Amer the one thing he can do he can play up to 12 regular PGA Tour events as an Amer he cannot play The Signature Events as an Amer so he if he wanted to stay School finish out this semester with his
Teammates and all that he can play NCW try to get a national championship and then turn pro um could see him playing events like here at the WM Phoenix Open out of the wieg yeah but I expect him to turn pro I I think you know we’ve had
Him on this show the little bit I’ve got to know about him I expect to make an announcement here in the next few days that he’ll be making his Pro debut at the AT&T Pebble Beach proam um you know the second signature event of the PGA
Tour season and I expect him to get it going see him play at Pebble Phoenix and La three in a row right out of the gate that’s that’s pretty much what I expect too I think he does need a week go home all the endorsements and sponsorships
And things like whatever was in in the queue for him when he did turn pro well the numbers have changed the values have changed his value is higher now than it was 10 days ago prior to this so you got to get all that buned up who am I going
With what am I going to be doing line up your schedule like the whole thing has changed he needs a little time to get this going it’s not just like oh I’m going to play Palm Springs and then I’m going to play Tori and then I’ll be back
At school it’s like no dude your whole year just shifted you got to regroup a little bit but I think we’ll hear something in very short order but no matter what congratulations Nick Dunlap incredible performance first amiter since Phil Mickelson in 1991 to win on
The PGA tour and you did it against a hell of a field Xander shaay Sam Burns Justin Thomas Patrick Klay among many others it was awesome to watch um so happy for him his whole team whatever you know the future holds I can’t wait
To see great it was one of the most in two final rounds I’ve had in a long time it was fun to watch and he held up by the way he was going off at 14 plus 140 going in the final round with a three shot Le smash same smash thank you yeah
That’s uh dude this ain’t the normal am this ain’t just some regular Amer like this dude’s a monster and he’s got a three shot cushion if he goes and shoots a couple even 200 under which ended up getting it done I was like there’s only a couple guys that can catch him and
They they still got to have a day plus 140 one time we out Fox the books I could use it I I needed it by the way kids running icy on this NFL all right well let’s get to another subject because Nick Dunlap just 20 years old so
He don’t have to worry about dry January yeah okay you and I both agreed you were involved in a little bet with a group of guys I was not I was just doing this for myself but after the pro scratch out at Whisper rock which I believe ended
January 5th on a Friday yeah said Dry January starts I currently on day eight I’ve been holding strong nothing in Panama okay I was tempted but I held strong because I said I was going to do it I didn’t say I was going to go the
Whole month or we’re going to see how long we can go because I want to feel ready to rock for Phoenix Open but how’s your dry January going s uh slight update I’m on day three now I regret to inform everyone I’ve fallen off the
Wagon I’m a weak man um I did have a had a bat with like it’s like five or six of us and dude it took like attorneys to get involved for us to agree to the terms of this deal like all right dude it starts on this date it ends on this
Date it can’t be the whole month it’s got to be this many days we settled on 21 days we got going the leader of our group our our patriarch if you will uh fell off the wagon in like three days he’s like I’m off boys I saw him this
Past weekend he had four cocktails in his hand I was like when are we getting that payment buddies I’ll pay I’ll pay then throughout the bet you know we’re updating we like oh boys day six 6 out of 21 we’re done 7 out of 21 we’re done
We’re all holding strong then it’s like hey guys I’m going on a golf trip this week I’m going to need a hall pass just one Hall Pass like doesn’t count everyone gets one Hall Pass like they start making new rules and all this stff everyone was just falling off left and
Right so finally I get out there this past week I’m doing the Bob does Sports show with Bobby fat Perez I’m partners with Manzel I’m like what am I going to do not have a couple pops well if you were strong you know what I mean but I’m
Not strong Colt I’m a weak man as you know and so of course I had a few there I like all right doesn’t really count then the next day some buddies in from out of town we go play golf I was like dude it’s almost it’s almost
Disrespectful if I don’t have a couple pops here and have a good time so I fell off the wagon uh self-reporting uh I failed I’m weak and um it’s not a really dry it’s like a just a it’s like a moist January you know what I mean it’s not
Dry it’s not wet I didn’t go crazy or do anything it’s just there’s a little moisture in January which I still think is pretty good 14 days for me congratulations hell of a job you went from a strong committed relationship to dry January to a hall pass to an open
Relationship let’s see other people you know what it’s not you it’s me God what a disaster best we just call this thing off for both of us well I’m proud of you for attempting I guess I’m not sure how much longer I’m going to make it if something happens with my flight again
I’m off I feel free honestly I feel like there’s a huge weight off my shoulders all right well let’s get to our guest this week who I have a feeling did not participate in dry January this is my guy right here one of my favorites I
Miss seeing him out on the PGA tour he was he had a great career man and one of my favorite guys he’s hilarious the one the only Steve Marino yeah they just um just one of the real ones you know what I mean just one of the he’s like the
Dying breed in golf just a guy that kind of gets it but also hell of a talent too when he’s out there and he’s he’s fun talk he’s a fun combo and just make sure you stay tuned for the whole episode imp you might get a little yeah it’s a cameo
Might get a little Cameo from former world number one Dustin Johnson you never know yeah who knows who could show up during this interview all right here’s Steve Marino on golf subpar all right I am very excited for this one cuz we have got a dude with us
Here today he played over 220 events on the PJ tour one shot of 59 back in his JY Jack days uh also famously went toe-to-toe with Ernie L’s on a 15h hour flight which we’re going to get his side of the story on that today he’s just one
Of the good ones out there Steve Marino joins us how we doing fella excellent guys appreciate y’all having me on uh pretty excited about it yeah man this is GNA be a lot of fun Steve you’re you’re one of my favorite guys I’ve ever come across in the game
Of golf always love getting paired with you and I got to give you some a compliment right now you buy by far got the best background of any of our guests we’ve done over video that’s a beautiful spot you got there but I got to know we
Haven’t seen you much in the golf world lately what have you been up to well uh I was you know last year I was kind of trying to play and um you know had some plans to do some Mondays and ended up having to have a hernia
Surgery and uh that was way worse than I would ever imagin it being I was under the assumption I’d be back playing in golf in 10 days and it was probably like six to eight weeks and probably the most painful surgery I’ve ever had I mean I
Won’t really get into it it’s kind of in the man region where the pain was um but and then after that you know I just kind of I went to second stage of Q school and and you know played like a played like a jerk and didn’t make it and I
Mean I think I’m gonna give it a break for now like competitive wise and uh you know I’m just trying to figure out what the next step’s going to be what I’m going to do I’ve never worked a day in my life so you know this is uh kind of
For in territory for me but uh you know I’m kind of you know putting golf on the back burner for right now and uh trying to get into some into some other stuff yeah well don’t ever work a day in your life if you can help it you got to
Figure it out right now but how’s the health now after that surgery I actually just had a buddy that went through that and he said it’s one of the worst things in the history that hurt I mean it was awful it was awful I’m good now but it’s
Funny I lost like 15 yards off the tea in the club and the irons and haven’t gotten it back so that’s another reason why I’m like H you know maybe I’ll give it a break for a little bit but it I mean it was awful it was awful like and
I was under the impression that it was a nothing little surgery and I remember I went and saw uh for my posttop I went and saw the doctor and I’m complaining to him I’m like Doc look and he’s like yeah there’s a little drop there in the
You know whatever and I’m like a little drop like you know what’s going on here why is it so painful and he was kind of laughing at me and uh but it was no joke that hernia surgery no joke sounds absolutely terrible let’s talk a little
Bit about your golf the early on days obviously you play play at Virginia I know you your your dad was in the military y traveled a lot traveled around a lot as a child ended up settling in that area was I know you picked up golf at a very young age but
What what made you choose University of Virginia well I was being recruited by a couple other schools and um Virginia you know was a pretty good academic institution and um I figured if I’m they’re able they’re going to let me in to go play golf there I might as well
Take advantage of it because if I was a you know Regular Joe Schmo in high school they would have laughed at my application so I decided to go there and uh you know really enjoyed it don’t regret it one bit and uh you know had a had a great time there degree in
Sociology yeah smart dude uhuh smart dud good for nothing they all are by the way they all are Steve you always had one of my favorite swings on the tour because I think like you owned it you played that left to right as good as anyone it felt
Very natural very like you know unencumbered by a lot of teaching and stuff were you always like that even when you got onto the PJ tour coming up where you kind of like yeah you get little bits of information here and there but more or less like don’t strip
My DNA don’t don’t try to take away what I do best yeah you know eventually I think I got to there I think that’s probably why I ended up making it on the tour because um you know I had worked with some other people on my swing and and and tried to
Kind of change it eventually I just got to the point where like listen I know if I do this I’m going to hit it solid I can make it do this I can make it do that and just really uh worked with a guy named Matt Messer at be Lakes Country Club down
Here and really just kind of kind of tried to find fine-tune you know what I had with my golf swing and um you know for a while there that we were able to do it pretty good and um you know I think a lot of people can get lost in
Mechanics and and and I just kind of tried to go out there and play like I knew what to to do I knew how to hit the shots and uh you know once I kind of stopped worrying about my swing and just you know came to realize that that’s who
I am I I think I you know I was able to kind of come into my own a little more yeah I mean it was definitely a different looking move but I I spoke to Claude Haron who you worked with back in the day as well I mean he said you were
One of the best ball Strikers he’s ever come across uhhuh yeah I I did I used to hit it real good it’s funny like uh the putting was kind of always the thing that held me back when I played and now when I go play the putting is probably
The best part part of my game so um yeah I did I I was blessed I hit it good I drove it straight I hit my irons real nice and uh you know played a lot of good golf I guess for a long time I mean
Look you had a really really good career out on the PJ tour I know you never won but it was really solid you had a ton of high finishes but I want to go back to right out of school turning professional first off was turning professional
Always the game plan because I know you went through some years being out on the jigy Jacks as we like to call it um yes it was um I didn’t do it right away I think I stayed Amer like the the whole summer after I graduated school and then actually found myself caddying
At Robert Trent Jones in Gainesville Virginia uh during the fall and uh during that time I played my first few professional events there was a tour called the tar tar heill tour it was in the Charlotte area and uh I played a couple events on that tour and uh won
Both of them um and so that kind of really solidified I was like you know January one I’m gonna move down to Florida and give it a shot so that was the deal and you know messed around on the mini tours for a few years and you
Know for a while it was you know I was everybody thought I was going to be the guy to get on the tour and make it through Q school because I played well on the uh in the mini tour events but uh you know I think mentally maybe I wasn’t
There yet wasn’t you know maybe it was a a little bit of a late bloomer so it took me a couple years to get out there but uh uh yeah I messed around for a few three you know I think I was a rookie when I
Was 26 so not that long I mean three four years on the mini tours yeah and you were a beast down there in like the the Florida mini tours the Gateway the Tar Hill things like that um did you think it was going to be as tough what
Were your experiences like at Q School those first few years because there was guys out here when I was playing in Arizona I was like dude no way this guy doesn’t cruise through Q School this year like he is playing so good and then inevitably they
Don’t right right um you know the most important thing for me my first year out of school I went and played the Canadian tour and um didn’t play well at all uh was traveling through Canada which was awesome like I would never you know I don’t regret doing that but then I made
A decision to come and just stay at home and play on the Golden Bear tour and practice every day and just kind of you know be in a place where I could really hone my game but also at the same time gained some competitive experience against some really good players so I
Think that decision was big time for me and you know you know you see the mini tours like you know in Arizona and Florida these guys are shooting like the lowest scores ever and you’re looking at it and you’re going what in the hell well eventually you you know you got to
Learn how to do that because that’s just the way it is I mean that’s just the nature of pro golf so that was good for me to do that and then you know as far as the Q School yeah I mean I remember I drove home crying from Martin DS one
Year I was so upset I you know I butchered it I bogied like two of the last three to miss it by one when I was the shoe in guy you know and this was first stage of Q school and um I I remember just being so upset but you
Know I I said to myself listen you’re not good enough if you were good enough you would have made it so you got to keep going keep grinding and you know that’s kind of the attitude that I that I had pretty much my whole career like you know if it’s not happening you’re
Not good enough you got to try to get better so people don’t know what that pressure at Q school is like it is brutal there’s a lot of great players that could never make it through but I throughout throughout your JY Jack days who are some of the guys you know
Traveled around with played with and was there a guy that like comes to mind when you think of a guy that’s like damn he was really good I’m shocked he never made it I mean 100% one of the best players I’ve ever played golf with his
Name is Hoshi matsuo like a 6 foot4 Japanese guy had a ponytail super intimidating pounded the ball perfect swing and we played at the same Club down here for a long time bear lakes and he never made it he got his uh Nation it was Nationwide tour back then he got his
Nationwide tour card and just never really did anything with it and it was always I I could never really wrap my head around it because this guy was I mean I’m like dude this guy could win the US Open he could win The Masters he
Was so like to this day he’s one of the best people that I’ve ever seen play golf and for some reason or another um you know the traveling or the life on the road or I don’t know what it was like he just didn’t seem to to play well
Um which was very surprising to me but he was man he was a stud or it’s just a matter of like getting through Q school and you talk about driving home crying like I’ve been through that I know other guy it’s just like a lot of them might
Be good enough if you just beamed them onto the PJ tour and said here’s your tour card go get them they might do it but getting there is a different animal like do you remember like same vein as you You Remember Nicholas limy Oh Yeah
From out here I mean that kid was like the Prototype he looks like ludvig Oar and swung it just like that and I was like there is no way this kid doesn’t win everything get on the PJ tour and probably win more cuz this game is more
Suited for that than it is for these golf courses you just never know but take us back to that 59 I believe you shot it out here in Arizona didn’t you I did I did yeah um it was at the uh uh one of those Desert Mountain courses I
Think the outlaw course oh yeah was in the Gateway TOUR Championship and I was actually paired with Mark Tessa and another guy named Dave ludus you know you guys probably know Dave do youall know Dave ludus I see Ludas still every year up he lives up in Columbus he’s out
At the memorial every year oh lud but no lud’s got a new gig now he’s the head uh teaching professional at Metalist Golf Club down here is he really oh damn he sure is yeah so I see him when I go out there I see him you know he’s doing
Great he’s he’s got a nice gig and he’s doing good the members love uh love him and so he’s doing good shout out to Luda but they must had 15 guys turn that job down lud what’s that they must had 15 guys turn that job down if he got
It I don’t you know I don’t know I don’t know what they were going after you know I think the diamond in the rough you know what I mean so that is awesome good for him yeah yeah so um yeah it was me uh Tessa and Dave ludus and U tuna and I
Were playing our $100 Nassau Auto twos like we always play and uh I just remember um I think I think I shot like 20 29 on the front and I was only one up on Mark he shot 31 or 30 we having a match and I wasn’t really paying attention to what I
Was doing then we came to number 10 it’s like this weird drivable hole and the pin was front right but the only way you can hit it only place you could hit it on the green is front right there’s a big bunker but uh I hit a good drive and
You can’t see him we go up there and it’s like two feet from the hole so I made eagle and then I was like oh damn uh I started thinking about it made a few more birdies and then eagled 16 I hit it like 3 feet and I knew exactly
I’m like man you make this you’re 13 under shook that one in there and uh parred 17 and then left it on the lip on 18 short from like 15 feet for 58 which you know at the time I couldn’t even be mad I was like thank God just tapped it
In but it was I mean that was the best round of golf I’ve played best round of golf that I ever will play in my life yeah how much did you for like 900 maybe a thousand I don’t know the Press has got out of control on the back
That’s pretty good though only like that many ways that a guy shooting 59 and also you might be one of the only dudes in the history to shoot 59 on any Tour by parring 17 and 18 normally it’s like they need to Birdie the last three or
Four they need an eagle or something but just to coast in with a couple pars and that’s a real course too that’s wasn’t really coasting but you know I was kind of gripping that club a little bit tighter but I I made it in yeah 59 Club
Absolutely love it you got you got out on PJ tour in 20 7 you had a great rookie year you finished 80th kept your card what what were some of the things you remember from your rookie year and I know knowing you you celebrated properly after locking up that
Card correct correct yes I did uh I got the card in Palm Springs made it through final stage of Q School uh we had quite the class snaker Anthony Kim malinger John Merck I’m missing some guys so I apologize but I mean we we had a we had
A real good uh class I think we were at the deer the Beer Hunter later that evening and um they you gotta you got to go to some or you know the orientation thing they have and there were quite a few of us in there the next day that uh
Were not 100% I remember that that’s hoodie up head down during orientation just layre why are you talking to me right now correct yeah they talking about branding you’re like branding like get the hell out of here man dude they should have a document on just people that go into the Beer Hunter
Cuz that place is like everyone that’s like one of the only joints out there that you can go to where I mean the amount of people that have come through that place the stories are just would just be legendary I know I know it’s it’s it’s quite the place I love Palm
Springs man I I like it out there it’s in the winter time it’s it’s pretty nice you know it’s Dome Dome golf it’s so good yeah then you get out there you you have success like Co talks about but you ran around your little crew that you ran
Around with was one of the alltime like character Crews on the PJ tour you Matt Evy Spencer LaVine Willie Mack I mean some of these guys I mean what a crew that was to run y’all had to have that was like the last era of the Golden Era I would
Say well yeah I mean I think we uh if it it was the end of it we finished it out strong I know that uh but yeah we had a good time I think you know I’m not really out there right now but you know I hear stories
And I don’t I don’t know if it’s you know quite the same I think it’s a little less fun little Le camaraderie uh a little more serious which you know with the money that these guys are making these days I completely understand that but uh you know we were
Able to juggle you know having a good time and um really enjoying it and still grinding and playing good golf yeah y’all had a very very fun crew the one thing you know I’m not playing either but I’m still out there most weeks it’s just everyone has their team right you
Got the you got the the coach the caddy the sports psychologist you got this four or five man teams around every instead of you know once the round’s done you and your boys go hang out grab a beer grab dinner or whatever it is
Yeah or or I’ll be like hey Colt dude we watch me hit like a couple seven irons and just look at something you know what I mean like when when people other players used to ask their friends like dude will you look at something real
Quick am I doing this like you know I I feel like that’s I don’t know if that really happens Much Anymore um I can’t speak to it because I’m not out there but it doesn’t really seem like it does you know how much golf I mean obviously
You haven’t played much lately but I know you and enjoy playing the game a lot how much are you playing now that you’re home and not doing it competitively yeah I’m I’m not playing a ton maybe three times a week I’m playing um so I’m trying to you know still kind
Of stay sharp but uh you know maybe three four times a week uh you know go out and play with my my friends go out and play with some of the the boys that play on tour and on live at The Medalist uh but uh you know I’m not out there
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Removed from the game now as well and we play with a lot of tour guys are you at the point yet where you’re asking for strokes it’s getting close bud it’s getting close uh it’s a humbling I’m refusing to do it I’m refusing to do it because I you know if
I play good I’ll be right there I’m not gonna beat these guys like five and four or something like they could beat me but if I play well I’ll sneak out of Victory here and there but I don’t know if I keep getting any lose any more distance
Is the time is coming very soon listen I it’s it’s hard to ask but once you do it and you accept it there’s nothing better than telling Dustin Johnson or whoever you’re playing with that’s four for three yeah you want to press hey when that day happens I will fully embrace it
And embrace it in the [ __ ] talk as well yes I’ll tell you what I did for a while and I’m starting to lean out of it because I just need it with some of these guys but I didn’t would refuse to take shots for a long time but I was
Like all right I’ll play you Indie but it’s three to one or four to one take odds your way as opposed like you should beat me this should be a layup win for you yeah yeah those that’s one way to kind of get around it
Like you’re going to beat me more than I beat you but if I do I want 4X it’s a bad not a bad way like if I win it’s 200 if you win it’s 100 stuff like that exactly exactly if your body let’s say you had 100% Health right now Steve do
You still have like the itch would you want if you everything was feeling good would you want to get out there and grind and and start chasing some of it a bit probably not probably not and that was the other one of the other things
That kind of was like like you know made me come to the conclusion that you know maybe I’m not going to do it anymore it’s just you know I don’t have the drive to go out there and grind and like Co I mean we all know how hard it is to
Get out there and then when you’re out there how hard it is how how hard you got to work to maintain to stay out there and you’re not even trying to maintain you’re trying to get better because if you’re not getting better you’re getting worse so it takes a lot
It takes a it takes a whole lot and you know honestly I don’t think you know that desire burns like it used to so you know you can’t fake it and you got to own it and that’s the way it is you know the one thing I will say though it’s you
Look at the results after each week and when we were playing you know if you snuck in there around 10th you could possibly make six figures and now it’s like you finished 28th you’re making 100 Grand like the money is just AB I know I know it’s insane it’s it’s
Completely insane I mean good for these guys you know I wish I would have come around like you know 10 years later but uh you know it’s great for them it’s nice to see you know guys getting paid cuz you know really now uh a middle of the
Road guys is making a bunch of money you know where back back when we played if you were kind of middle of the road 100th 125th you’re like man what did I make this year like maybe 75 grand after everything’s all said and done I believe
You so yeah I believe this year this past year on the PJ tour Charlie Hoffman finished 129 and made a made over a million dollars yeah that’s crazy I remember like you’d have to finish close to like top 30 when I first started to make a mill I think yeah not counting
All the little year the end bonuses and the Aon challenges and all this stuff that we don’t even hear about that’s not even official money there’s so much of that flying around too but you said all right so you’re going to take a little breather from it kind of feel it out you
Said there was some things that you’re trying to stay busy with but you also never had a job in your life which is nice but what do you do you got anything in mind that you’re looking to get into yeah well I was coaching like the past
Year or two I’ve been coaching a couple people helping them out with their game and I like doing that but you know I don’t really know I’m I don’t really know what I’m going to do you know I wouldn’t mind getting a job with with live as like uh you know doing
Something or the PGA Tour or something involved in golf um but you know that’s just something I got to try to figure out but um the coaching I enjoyed but you know I don’t know we’ll see I’m just kind of on a little journey to try to
Figure it out um but I’m definitely looking to do something because I’m getting bored down here you know there’s so much you can do and you got nothing to do so very true a good problem and a bad problem I got to ask you brought up
The coaching so I’ll never forget this I was playing on the corn fairy tour at the time and I go out and play a practice round with this young kid who is just getting going out of Florida State he’s got his phone in his pocket listening to the most ridiculous rap
Music ever I’m like who the hell is this kid we come to find out his name is Daniel burer and it sounds like you kind of took him under your wing a little bit but I got got to know what were your first thoughts the first time you came
Across Daniel burger oh man he must have been like 13 or 14 years old um little young punk he was going through puberty voice cracking like all tall and gangly and just the goofiest kid you ever seen in your life but would would be like Marino you’re fat like you suck and
Would just talk [ __ ] to you just a little brat you know and just mean [ __ ] so I would play golf with him and stuff and then you know one day we go out and he’s talking trash to me he’s like I’ll go play you for 500 bucks for on the
Front nine so I said fine Bud so I win he doesn’t pay me um and runs away and drive and you know runs away as he’s like talking trash and like F you I’m not going to pay you so the next day I see his golf
Cart out there these are the days of the iPod touch you remember that oh yeah he had one of those thing was sitting in the cup holder of his cart so I just went whoop ganked that thing I let a couple days go by I called him up on the
Phone I said hey bud I got your iPod Touch I said who’s Stephanie I’m on your Facebook sending you a message for and he’s like he’s like you [ __ ] you better not do that like I go well give me my 500 bucks and you can have the iPod Touch
Back uh I got the 500 bucks I think his rookie year on tour gave me the money he said don’t worry about the thing he said stop telling people that story Steve I’m holding your iPod hostage until I get my 500 and I’m sending some D way
Man it’s tough love you know you need you need you know you need need people to teach you how it’s done that’s right tell you know he’s gone through some injuries as well but what a player I know oh but that guy was man when he’s
On he’s a killer you know what I mean 100% he’s a stone cold killer it’s unfortunate you know with with the injuries he’s got going on right now you know he hadn’t played competitively in a long time and I know he’s working hard like trying to get back and and get back
Out there and I I really hope that you know us and you know everybody else that watches golf can watch him compete again because he he’s a he’s a fierce competitor no doubt hey he might get stuck in a corner in a round room but
He’s got a lot of talent yeah I know you know you know competitiveness no doubt I gotta ask you about one specific tournament because the 2009 Open Championship over at turn Turnberry you’re tired for the lead after 36 holes with the one and only Tom Watson take us through that Saturday
Because obviously I mean he was trying to make history out there at the Open Championship oh yeah oh yeah that was crazy man that guy he played so good so I just remember like d we didn’t tee off till like 450 or something it’s so weird over there you know So eventually you
Know the round we started and uh I’m nervous as [ __ ] on the first te I remember the first hole was like if you a four iron and like a nineiron or a wedge if you know if you hit it pretty good and I just hit this for iron high
On the face dead straight right down the middle but I had like seven iron ends way back there hit it on the green was kind of like shaking nervous T puted it and then I was all right but that guy played so good I mean we talked
About you know y’all talked about how I played that fade and I drove it good and I drove it straight but we had these holes with these Crosswinds blowing you know 20 25 left to right and I could not hit the Fairway I’m like a yard in the
Right rough on every hole because I got to start it so far left my coming in like on a 45 degree angle coming into the Fairway and Tom Watson step stepping up there and just hitting these balls that are going dead straight right down the middle not even moving in this left
To right wind and I’m going dude what is going on here and then I’m thinking man he must be hooking the hell out of it so I can’t wait to see the right to left holes we get to the right to left holes and it’s it’s drawing like five yards
And going you know about as far as I’m hitting it and he was hitting it so good just on the button wind wasn’t even touching the ball and he puted unbelievably man I Me Maybe the best links player of all time yeah and I mean talk about it just a yard from being
Making history being the oldest major Champion ever I mean he had a perfect shot into the 72 hole on Sunday perfect perfect perfect I mean if it if if it would have stopped you know six inches before you know it needed six inches Less on it and he was you know 12 feet
Two putt for the win um unbelievable I remember the crowds were so like Pro Tom Watson you know it was a pretty big deal and it was insane crowd let’s go Tom come on Tom like the whole way like felt like millions of people are out there
I’m in the process of making like dub on 16 on Saturday I was in it till like 15 16 I went like dub dub or something um but I’m standing on the green and he’s got like a 40 footer for birdie and I’m standing on the green you know cont
Contemplating my eight-footer for like bogey or double or some [ __ ] I don’t know and he rolled this putt in and I’ll never forget it for the rest of my life the the the noise was so loud the Roar of the crowd was so loud it was deafening and the green I’m standing on
The green and it’s shaking under my feet going like this and I was like that’s some crazy stuff right there you know I never really go ahead and clean up that that was nuts man I’m not kidding you it was like being like uh Camden Indoor
Stadium at Duke like you know the people that play there say the floor shakes like that’s what I I immediately thought about that I was like and this is crazy I know you didn’t play the way you wanted but what a cool experience I mean those are memories you’ll have forever
Oh yeah oh yeah I mean I gave it my all you know it it was hard um but it was I mean it w it it was pretty cool to watch that guy play that good at that age I mean it was it was pretty amazing it was
Pretty amazing and and just being a part of that especially over there like the history over there the fans over there are crazy like you’ll hit a shot like 40 feet from the hole and like everybody’s like you know from the Fairway and yeah yeah it’s a little bit different over
There it’s more of like a it’s a much more like intimate golf tournament experience you know what I mean it’s that was a lot of fun you get on the right wave it’s the best yeah yeah speaking of the fans over there Steve is was that the Open
Championship I believe your boy your caddy at the time GDB got uh caught up with some fans on the 10 T I think taking a little uh relief if we want to call it that was that that event it I I don’t know if it was that event it very
Well could be this this was in the I remember other things about him from this trip he was doing things for money we’ll get to that hold that thought yeah we’ll get to that but tell us about the Rel the relief is good I don’t remember
If that was that at that event on 10 at uh Turnberry yeah I can’t remember the story is during the tournament yeah right didn’t he have to go take a leak and it was like the tent te and he thought he had some room no one was
Around in this particular area and he went out there and took a leak and turns his head and apparently there was 200 European fans just staring at him from about 15 yards away it might have been St Andrews but yes yes it was he that did happen to him over there
And uh he owned it you know he just finished up and uh you know zipped up turned right back around and walked to the te G cable one of the best America absolute one of the one of the greatest yes absolute character he’d be a great guest on this podcast he’s got
So many stories um you know back in the day when you were playing out there on the PGA tour I mean one riter once said you were the best player on tour without a win you had ended up with having five runner-up finishes if you look back and
There was one you could have a mulligan on what tournament would it be what’s the one you feel like you really let get away uh Bay Hill bahill and Martin L won um it’s funny like in the practice round we were playing 17 and um I kind of
Leaked the six iron a little bit and it plugged in the face of that bunker and I was playing with Spencer and I can’t remember who else I was playing with and I could not I didn’t know how to hit a plug bunker shot I was like D I kept
Leaving it in the bunker and I couldn’t get it out and and my technique was just awful and Spencer’s trying to show me how to hit it one dude’s saying open the face another guy’s like no you Hood it so anyway I got a one shot lead in the
Turn no I think maybe I don’t know what it was but I came to that hole with the lead on Sunday and hit a very nice six iron it leaked a yard and it was plugged this far from car plugged in the bunker and I proceeded to get it out I
Was like dude you got to get this out but I mean we can’t be leaving it in the bunker right now so I overdid it and hit it over the green and then you know it goes down and you got that brutal chip and chipped it to like eight feet and
Missed a putt and made dub and meanwhile like Martin L’s like making putts all over the place behind me I can hear the Roars I birdied 18 um to get back in it and he ended up uh getting up and down from par on 17 from
Where I did not get up and down for bogey the same spot chipped it had the same putt I had like 8 10 foot or forar made that then hit it in the right rough on 18 hit on the front of the green and two puted that like 120 footer to the
Back right pin yeah and beat me but that’s the one I mean like I mean you know and it’s fitting that like in the practice round you know it’s kind of so weird how it ended like that you know what I mean I know how to hit him now PL that
That right bunker that right bunker on 17 when the wind gets going it’s like one of the only places you can hit like that green becomes damn near impossible to hit so like everyone plays out of that right bunker and some of them plug some of them don’t oh man and they took
That pin they hide it over there on the right on Sunday it’s like five four over the bunker and yeah yeah that place that was one you know I think about that one da8 points screwed me out of Pebble Beach one year got very low he holed one
On 14 and then duck hooked one on the next hole hit out of bounds stake kick back in bounds hit it on the green to like 60 feet and made it for birdie uh that one that one I think about uh him and his lego belt but other than that
You know I played pretty good in some of the other ones and got beat you know so yeah five times getting close I mean you got to play damn good golf just to put yourself in that position that many times but speaking of old stories you and I were texting briefly yesterday
You are part of one of the most legendary stories in golf the flight with Ernie eles all that stuff and you were telling me like look Ernie’s told the story from his perspective 50,000 times the media runs with that you never get a chance to tell your side so let
Let’s hear it from the horse’s mouth is that is that is he the one that told because my friends they’ve been texting me like the article from golf is it in Golf Digest or Golf Magazine some it’s like a cartoon thing I haven’t seen it
We had him on we had him on here and he talked about it a little bit but now we get to hear it from the other side because they differ yeah they do differ but I don’t know actually I don’t know I think we’ll tell the same story I’ll tell you the
Whole thing real quick we met at the yard house I never met him we were with like uh mutual friends and so then the groups kind of started hanging out and I’m talking to him he’s like what do you do I said I play golf he’s like oh what
Tour do you play on I said dude I play on the PGA tour I’m like three spots ahead of you on the money list but and he’s like oh I didn’t know that part was true that’s so good he he loved that he loved that so you know we we had a good
Time and drank some beers he invited me on his plane we figured out we’re both playing in Japan and coming back to Jupiter so he offered me a ride back and I’m thinking like hell yeah but then it was two months away I’m thinking there’s no way this guy’s gonna remember so I
Had another plan to go back but as soon as I saw him it was on he was like oh I can’t wait you know give your passport to my pilot like give me your passport so anyway started off a little rocky because he had to wait for me for like
Two hours because I beat him in the tournament on Su day he finished well before me so he might have been a little ornery you know pre-flight but uh I finally got on the plane uh everything’s great we’re hanging out drinking beers had a nice steak bottle of
Wine um you know then he didn’t uh didn’t want to let me buy to go to the bathroom gave me a couple headbutts I returned to the favor he got a big smile on his face like was just like yes yes I’m so happy it was like a child we’re like two
Children like like fighter so we started wrestling and tussling around I was on his back he’s shaking me around and the pilots come back and yell at us and it stops and then uh we’re both leaning against the bar afterwards and we can’t breathe we’re out of breath and he says
I like you you you know you won’t let me you know you didn’t you headbutted me back or something I said well I’m not just G to let you headbutt me over and over but he’s like yeah so we became good friends ever since but it was it was like two
10-year-olds playing but a little you know but bigger 10-year-olds that’s exactly what it was like and we’ve been friends ever since was it just you two back there in the cabin it was just us two God that’s 15 hours we we we consumed a lot of alcohol on the plane
And the pilots had to come back and be like no like the pilots were like well I mean I think that he might have done some things like this before so I don’t think they were in total shock um but uh yeah they came back and they were like
Guys what are you do I mean the plane must have been bouncing around all over the place at like 45,000 feet like over you know Russia but I but yeah that’s that’s pretty much the the Crux of it you know it was you know like two little kids
Like you know play fighting almost but I love that that lines up that lines up with what he said pretty much I heard if you fly with him like you better prepare be prepared to have some Co Tails or some beers yes yes cocktails too I I shared a
Few other flights with him um the Mexico one was pretty memorable um you know I respect my elders so you know if I’m on a plane I’m not going to call it hazing but if I’m on a plane and you know guys pouring me a drink and telling me I
Should drink it and I’m on his flight and he’s older than me and a four-time major Champion I’m gonna drink the drink you know what I mean that’s the way it is and I got no problem with that you know I enjoy doing those kinds of things
So uh but the Mexico flight ended with uh we flew there from Las Vegas and it ended with me uh waiting for everyone to clear Customs behind me they all did thought we were done tried to walk out and walk face first into a glass door uh that was pretty embarrassing and
Then Tim West had to drive me to the Fairmont and check me into my hotel and make sure I was tucked into my bed that night so that was another flight I shared with Ernie that’s awesome Tim West oh what a great guy West what a
Legend I’d heard of this story about him asking you what you did in a bar and I was like I don’t that’s got to be like the madeup part like there’s no like what are they just sitting at a bar together and they don’t know each other
But that part’s actually true when we met no it’s 100% true he asked me I was like he’s like what do you do and I said I play golf and he said oh you know really what tour do you play on I said but I play on PJ tour with you I’m like
Three spots ahead of you on the money list he’s like God that’s good I good it’s so good you know I know I know you’re taking a break from it now but you you turned 44 in March I believe is there any look like hey when I turn 50 maybe I’ll give
This I think about it I think about it you know I’d like to you know stay playing and and and keep my game you know fairly sharp um but it is a long way away but yeah if I turn 50 and I’m and I’m I’m feeling good and I’m playing
Good I mean I think it’d be pretty fun to play on the senior tour from the you the guys I know my friends that play on it they love it you know it’s like a totally different world from the PJ T where they say it’s just you know they
Wake up every day just loving life can’t wait to get out there and do it you know everybody’s having fun a little bit you know little more friendlier atmosphere a little more comaraderie um so it sounds like a good time I would love to do it
If I if I could and in six years burnhard will probably hopefully be out of there by it still be I mean I don’t know dude he still might be winning the money list at like 83 I mean he’s unbelievable Benjamin butt and the dude’s going backwards every year you
Think he’s going to fall off and he just keeps winning keeps on winning all right let’s uh get to the9 here yeah all right yeah let’s go there’s some good ones all right we got our E9 here a little fun with Steve Marino um we’ve been mixing
This up a little bit we’ll ask you you’re a single man celebrity crush oo uh I used to be a a munist but I don’t it’s tough to Margot Robbie and uh Wolf of Wall Street I mean that’s a pretty good one I mean I think golfers
And all males in general kind of have Margo’s got a strangle hold on this thing right now for some reason I can’t crack it oh man Margo yeah that’s a good one you got some competition for it uh but it’s a good I know is she single if
You want her to be in your mind sure I mean if you take a stab at her you know what I mean she comes single real quick if Stevie’s asking about it uh all right you started to get into this a little earlier we shut you down but I’m going
To give it to you now your old caddy GW cable wasn’t afraid of a dare he would do some crazy stuff for money on a bet what’s the craziest thing you’ve ever seen him do um the most the craziest thing I’ve ever seen him do I might start dry heaving
Talking about it to you guys but we were on the way to the British Open and there was a beer bottle that was like about half full and about half of it was old beer and the other half of it was dip Spit with the tobacco like you know
Ejected in there like somebody was spitting in it and then took their dip out and put it back in the bottle so you could see like the the tobacco in there too it was me Anthony Kim Charlie Hoffman was involved anyway we scrunched up about $3,000 and uh oh
God yeah dude if you’ve ever chewed you’ve accidentally taking a swig of a spitter in your life so you everyone knows the feeling that’s been there he just he took that thing down oh man he CH suck 10 years ago he I’m not kidding you I get queasy every time I talk about
It and just slam the beer bottle down afterwards like it was nothing and I get I think I when I think about it I almost throw up and he they paid it was about 33500 bucks that you know we had pulled up for him to do that
And he he did it no problem and I was like that’s a different kind of dude right there it wasn’t spit oh God what was the aftermath of that how many days how many days till you get leveled out after something like that I don’t know well then he continued on
Later that trip I played a practice round with VJ and like back in the day there like player dining was like I don’t know it was kind of a tent and you know we’re in Europe so you can smoke sigs wherever you want and there’s a
Cigarette buttt on the floor and I just finished you know telling VJ about the story of him drinking the dip spit he offered him you know 500 bucks to eat a cigarette butt off the floor Jesus so so I mean I we were playing good the guy wasn’t short on
Money I don’t know what the hell was going on but uh he ate that and he said that was the worst thing he said he was burping up cigarette for the rest of the week H his intestines got to be just ruined ruined the spitter St I heard I
Was like no not doable oh dude I was sitting right there oh that’s tough but that guy a legend great friend of mine great caddy great dude father of two now two beautiful young daughters and he’s he’s doing great so shout out to G he’s got a guy he’s caddying for uh
Jacob Bridgeman caded for him all year last year on corn fairy and they’re starting this week I think in Hawaii yeah they’re down in Hawaii I actually was texting with luck to them I was texting with them earlier I was like I need I was texting with him earlier I
Was like I need some stories he goes we’re on the golf course right now trying to Monday qualify let me text you later oh damn they’re not in hopefully hopefully they get in yeah um all right next oh by the way speaking of dip spit
So a good buddy of yours as well ruji Amada we’re down in Panama corn fairy I’m playing Blackjack and he’s standing behind me watching and he just got his cup and I was like what are you drinking he’s like crowning Ginger you want some I’m like yeah sure uh wasn’t crowning
Ginger that wrong to do yes that is wrong purpose that’s criminal cuz it’s the worst it’s happened to everyone that chews at some point like on accident you got like a Coke and usually you know it immediately if you’re a chewer and you can kind of get it out like you won’t
Swallow it like you know something’s wrong c m did did it go down no uh yeah it went down I was not happy with Lui oh I’m sure you’ve been and you didn’t even get 35 out if you could find the guy where where did he disappear to he just
Started dying laughing and walked away I’m like you are so sorry but I was on a heater on the blackjack table I couldn’t leave that’s tough tough look dedication all right next one what do you brand job and Scott McCarron have in common oh that’s a very good
Question I have no idea do you you are all three members of the beta fraternity oh I did not know that tell me about this let me tell you tell tell me about this being a frat guy up at Virginia it was okay ours was weird like
My frat was it was all it wasn’t on uh Rugby Road where most of the other fats were like they had gotten in trouble like a few years earlier so we had kind of like an off-campus house um I wasn’t like much of like a
Frat frat guy you know I wasn’t I never lived in the house I didn’t go to the parties but you know a bunch of friends of mine that uh I was in school with uh they did it I did it there was a bunch of athletes in the fraternity too no no
Other golfers but um it wasn’t like what you’re thinking though you know what I mean it it was uh I wasn’t like super Super Frat guy I wasn’t like hazing people I did go through a hell week and that sucked it was awful I can imagine
Some of the stuff I hear from those I’m like they get people pay people pay money to do this like some of it seems the worst part they had us doing like crazy dangerous stuff like they had us doing high lows so half the half of the
Pledge class was on like one side of this mattress and half was on the other side and you couldn’t see each other and you had a brother on each side and like you had to run and dive either in the bottom or the top and then like last
Minute they would tell you like go high or go low and then you know you’re hoping on the other side the guy might be going the same way as you it was like crazy stuff like that sounds terrible that was hell weak like 430 in the morning yeah that’s good
Isn’t Virginia where they wear like the ties to the games and stuff don’t they wear like sh ties yeah a lot of fraternities a lot of fraternities did like we mine wasn’t really we didn’t do that okay I don’t know if they do that anymore though I don’t know if they do
That anymore but when I was there dude like everybody wore a shirt and tie at the game I’m like seemed like the most uncomfortable thing ever it’s like 90 not your style no yeah not really no not really yeah it looks like a board meeting over there in the students section
Well those people are probably you know solving the world’s problems or creating them today some of those probably a little bit both Fair yes probably a little bit of both uh I’ll give you one here have you have you ever LED people to believe that you were related to Dan
Marino down in South Florida in order to get preferential treatment yes yes yes smart my ninth grade English teacher uh she hated me um but I somehow ended up Charming her and and we kind of got into conversation I told her Dan Marino was my uncle um and she know she didn’t believe
Me at first but then I got some other my my other buddies to kind of be like yeah yeah yeah you know he doesn’t talk about it much but yeah it’s his uncle and then I actually brought her uh I looked up his autograph and stuff and forged it
And brought her a signed football and gave it to her under the pretense that it really really was Dan Marino that signed it and uh I think I got a in the class the end of the year so yes I have done that yeah that’s great that’s smart
Going back to ninth grade too crafty yeah I love crafty um you know you said you’re possibly looking for another job where would you say being a boat captain would would rank imp possibility for you have having no that’s wiie Mack bud that’s Willie Mack I I have a boat if my boat
Broke down in the middle of the ocean we’d be in big trouble um but if Willie Mack was on the boat we’d be good I think Willie Mack should be the boat captain he’s a great fisherman uh he knows what’s going on with boats and um I think that’d be a
Great job for him for me no no no I wouldn’t want to do that although go ahead what’s I’ll be you know if you get a nice uh boat to Captain down here you can make a nice living yes you can he told me D DJ’s
DJ’s Captain does pretty good A good gig who that works for DJ doesn’t do well nowadays well very few yeah yeah Willie Mack did tell me you almost gave him a heart attack once when he was um he let you in charge of his boat oh man oh yeah
It’s it’s going to be it’s almost one of those things if you had to be there basically uh we we took a trip down to the Keys and we took uh we usually would take a this one boat that was out here but and instead we took a boat that will
Shared with this golf Coach Jeff leechman it was a smaller boat I’d never driven it so we drive down there and it was a Bry bear and myself Willie Mack and another guy Jamie near and we had rented a house for the week Bry brought
His boat so he was in the other boat uh we launched the boat and I was we’re in the keys and we’re in like kind of a little neighborhood it’s not real wide there’s uh bulkheads on each side the throttle was sticking I couldn’t I could
I couldn’t get it to go finally I got it to go and it went full blast it threw me backwards I fell backwards on the way down I slammed it back into full reverse and it went like and went up like this and the seaw walls right here it went up
And down and did not hit the seaw wall I was going to be in somebody’s backyard you know had I not went down and did that and he was so mad at me will because before this he’s like Steve you better not mess up the boat I’m like
But I got it dude like don’t worry about it it’s all good you’re in good hands well he witnessed that and he was not happy happy about it so he drove the boat the rest of the week I would have been at someone’s backyard relax it’s F there was people
Outside hanging out like and all of a sudden this little you know you know piece of waterway that where these houses were it was like a wave pool because of all my wake that I was creating there’s people outside going what in the hell is this guy doing
Out here so that would have been an expensive mistake too um side that and I think go ahead go ahead bu no I was to say sidebar that not being a boat captain would you say right now in your current form you’re better at beer pong or golf
Oh I played some beer pong actually on New Year’s Eve um you still got it wasn’t as sharp as I would have liked to have been but I think I went like five in one you know I had a bunch of different partners uh in the professional golf
World I know it’s tight it’s it’s close you know I I break par pretty much every time I play you know um yeah but you’re a shark on the table okay I am sharp I’m sharp on beer pong and cornhole yeah who would you say is like
Your biggest Challenger in the in the professional golf world in beer pong or cornhole well Dustin is pretty good at cornhole I can’t really like there’s not really any uh Denny McCarthy is good at a lot of things like that actually really Denny mcarthy is a sneaky sneaky athlete very good hand ey
And it’s why he’s a great putter he he’s good at ping pong cornhole beer pong uh like stuff like that like little hand eye coordination game so Denny’s real good uh Dustin and I used to play you know those games in battle and we and and we were fairly similar in
Ability I love it yeah then he won that three-point shooting contest they had wherever it was last year he made a shitload of them by the way yeah beat like some dude from The Wizard like he outshot like one of shooting guards like he was nice I any idea he could no no
Denny Denny’s a sneaky little a sneaky little athlete you know what I mean like he’ll he’ll surprise you with stuff like that yeah just a little assassin all right well that Segways nicely into the next one because we may have already hit it right now but a lot of your friends
Matt everyy especially he’s like dude this guy Steve he’s he’s just a freak athlete like he’s good at a lot of stuff he could shoot you know all the games we just mentioned but if you had to say a sport or activity that you’re best at outside of golf what would it be
O oo ping pong I heard you’re real nice at ping pong too I’m nice at pingpong uh uh you know what I’ve actually been playing a lot of recently because I got a lot of time on my hands is uh Billiards pool I’m gotten pretty good at
That actually got pretty good yeah yeah I got a ledger with one of my buddies we play all the time it’s going good for me so um well and you know what I’m a pretty good cornhole player I think I would throw myself up there with a lot
Of people so basically like a bar Olympics if you had like pretty much like you know all like the little niche can’t get paid to do real well I’m good at all of those horseshoes I’m pretty good at horseshoes like I haven’t really I’m good at horseshoes I loveart
Anything you can do while you drink darts darts I’m good at yeah I’m very good yeah I’m at all the drinking games I like that yep y that 16year old over in Europe’s taking over the dart world yeah yeah there’s some super is there a there’s a new guy in town challenging
That van Gerwin guy yeah 16 years old just fleeing everyone yeah yeah you can’t be throws like 180 every time yeah all right next one I have to change one of the guys because I know Willie Mack would be the answer now so I’m going to change it to Matt everyy Spencer LaVine
And Daniel Burger are stranded on a deserted island who do you have the most confidence in surviving and making it home safely oh man it’d probably be a toss up between Matt and Daniel because Spencer’s too nice they’d probably eat him first they’d be hungry though there ain’t much there
Um and then they both of those two dudes be trying to like you know figure out a way to get it done I’m going to have to go with the older crafty veteran would make his way off the island uh Matthew Evy I like it there
You goone Survivor Matt every I think so I think I think that I think I think I’m gonna go with that but you know Daniel he you know he like I said he’s a fierce competitor you never know yeah Boo Boo’s crafty crafty dude he is he the crafty
That he is uh very crafty all right last one with me this comes back to your caddy we talked about GW cable for a while there there was the makings of like a fight like a boxing match between y’all two a what whatever happened to that that was like real yall were doing
Like interview about it nothing ever happened it would have been unbelievable if we actually did it yeah uh how did that start I think because me GW and I we’ve known each other for a long time and we were you know good friends before he started catting for
Me so we maintain that you know we were always like friends before you know caddy player so you know we’d get into arguments as friends do from time to time and you know we would talk trash to each other and somehow that idea came up
And um you know he was telling me that how bad he he would work me and I’m like you’re out of your mind and uh so we decided to maybe try to do it and then I don’t even know what happened to it it just kind of went away but um it would
Have been it would have been very amusing I wish we I wish we would have done it GW is a scary dude he get he can get angry so it would have been it would have been a Rawl I think that would be a good pay-per-view player vers caddy
Fight incredible the whole tour would show you could just do it on site at an event and everyone show up and pay I know for that 100% maybe that’s the new gig you could be a fight promoter on the PJ tour that’d be sick I could solving beefs like solving beefs players you
Know yeah just making fights players Cades like you know rules officials we could even get them involved you know yes oh lined up few people L up with Steven Cox no doubt about that oh my God are you kidding me are you kidding me yeah that would be no relief from the
Cash cow right there yeah see you Monday we got to get GW on the Pod he is fantastic got so many great stories all right last one okay good friend of yours Dustin Johnson yes sir all right we’re gonna we’re filming this right now on
The a few hours before the start of the national championship game and I know you’ll be tuned in tonight watching Michigan and who the hell are they playing Washington go at it who like by the way who like no that’s what I’m going to ask you who you like but I need
You to do it in Dustin Johnson’s voice oh yeah no bro I think Michigan is going to win because they’re just bigger and they’ll pound the ball and uh you know they’re just gonna they’re going to control the possession and and they’re going to win the
Game that is so good I miss we do the whole interview as DJ let’s ask some more [ __ ] about hey how’s your game right now I mean Michael pennix Michael penx he’s he’s pretty good bro but I mean Michigan they’re just they’re bigger oh that just made the day right
There we’re going to run that audio as our promo like DJ’s on the Pod talking about football oh that’s awesome man well on a serious note obviously this is going to come out after the national championship game I know I personally because I have one guy out there that’s an annoying
Washington fan so I’m rooting for Michigan so I’m laying the five Tak Michigan man I just I I I dislike Michigan I don’t know why like Harbaugh just gets on my nerves but I think they’re so good uh I don’t believe in karma if I did I would probably bet
Washington but no I think they’re gonna win I just I mean they’re just kind of destined for it doesn’t I mean after all this stuff they’ve gone through and I don’t know it’s I think it’s gonna be a good game though I mean I don’t think it’s going to be a high-scoring game
It’s GNA be like a 218 Affair or something like that so in that case michig not cover C that would be great I’m heavily invested in the under I think I think I pretty much align with everything DJ just said I want Washington by the way no one hates Washington really good
Gambling we could all three look like [ __ ] after this game’s over uh when by the time this thing airs but that’s good breakdown from DJ he knows his ball knows his ball does he does I love it Steve well you’re the mad dude so great catching up with you don’t be a stranger
Come visit us out here yeah man we miss the twin I mean I I like last time I saw you guys that was like the start of my midlife crisis from there I went to Hawaii and then met up with Matt everyy and then Matt and I went to Bangkok yeah
To do the Asian tour was G for like a month yeah was he told us to ask you about that trip do you want to give us a quick breakdown on what went on over there how you guys even got there like you know I don’t really have enough time
I got videos like uh we invented a new game in the pool at the hotel we were staying that like it was I yeah there’s not enough time there’s not enough time right now but it was an amazing trip was cool I rented a freaking car dude I’m
Driving on the wrong side of the road and on the this side of the car I mean it was it was a lot of fun we were there for like 10 12 days it was awesome that place is wild it is dude it is like I
Mean how about the wires in the streets everywhere how does that place not catch on fire it is bizar it’s an interesting place there’s no doubt you and every over there for 12 days godamn that’s terrifying that’s good we I need to get Maddie on and talk about that we
Survived it so if we can anyone can so that’s true yeah true story all right my man we’ll really enjoyed it thank you so much yep you’re the best thanks for having me good catching up all right that was Steve Marino joining us and if you weren’t watching YouTube you
Probably would have thought Dustin Johnson joined there at the end snuck in there quickly uh that’s a good impression I wanted him to keep going if I had known it was that good I would have asked him more questions answer it as Dustin Johnson just let him go he’s
Hilarious um that was that was great I love this guy I loved him talking about when he first met little punk ass Daniel Burger back in the day I I mean that relationship I can see those two just going at it big brother little brother
But by the way good to see Daniel burer back on PGA Tour as well shout out to him played nicely in his debut since the 2022 Us open and then the much talked about wrestling match with Ernie El got his side of the story I didn’t know it
Started with a headbutt yeah it’s physical it’s physical up there at 30 thoul uh yeah I was talking to him before he’s like dude let me get my it’s like cuz Ernie’s talked about it a million times media always ask him I’ve never get gotten to give my side of
Story like yeah dude the floor is yours but that’s an alltime classic story also The Bets with his caddy G du who we need to get on the program the drinking the spitter dude is enough to make you want to puke just listening to it if you’ve
Ever chewed or even been around a guy that chews you’ve probably at some point accidentally done it Coke bottle whatever it is and it’s just like immediate and he took the whole thing down I don’t know what his week looked like out there the open but it had to be
Ate a cigarette had to be miserable eat a cigarette we used to have a kid in our little group we’d call him what do you give me bets like what do you give me to eat that he ate a dollar bill once by the way you gave him $100 to eat a $1
Bill you want to mess yourself up So eventually he made 101 eat a single yeah eventually I don’t know that it was usable once once I it came out was awesome listening to him talk because he’s that’s a great trivia question like who who was in the lead or tied for the
Lead with Tom Watson after 36 at the open it was Steve Marino playing alongside him it was cool to hear him talk about how he handled those Crosswinds out there and how good he was on the lynx golf courses reason he’s one of the best Open Championship players of
All time yeah he’s that that was an incredible run that he had there uh with Watson before the crazy ending there and his little crew that he used to run with I mean Marino Spence Matt everyy the beautiful Matt everyy dude that’s a good squad and there’s just not many like
That out there anymore you know what I mean Dying Breed for those guys love Steve Marino can’t wait to get here in Scottsdale and play some golf um man we need more like him in the game of golf played with him at the twin fin the last
Year they had it and it was [ __ ] Stripes it too it was a special yeah it was a special 18 yeah um but always fun sitting down with him one of the best hope everybody enjoyed that episode um let’s get to some pics real quick for the Farmers Insurance open which is
Where I’m headed doing Wednesday Thursday Golf Channel Friday Saturday which is weird to say for CBS because Sunday CBS Jim Nance will be he’ll be calling the golf Friday and Saturday from the Ravens Stadium Press Box up there and then he’ll be getting ready for the AFC championship between them
And the Kansas City Chiefs and then on the NFC side we’ve got Detroit Lions San Francisco 49ers we’ll get to those picks in a second but First Farmers Insurance open I’m going to go with a guy who’s been making some noise with his fashion lately new fashion this year new clothes
This year wearing the malbon has a great record at Tory Pines and I like this number too 25 to one give me Jason day great track record around Tory Pines yeah what do you think about the new look pants looks comt he can fit some money in those things that’s he can
Smuggle some things as a man who likes Comfort who likes a little no no Euro fit no no Euro fit I’m I’m okay with it yeah he’s changing the game right now swing looks good and like you said crazy good track record at Tory all right you’re headed out there you know what’s
Been going on Monday qualifier cancels now Tuesday qualifier because it’s just pouring rain course is going to be soft it’s going to be wet rough’s going to be thicker harder to get out of it’s already a long golf course it’s going to play play longer I’m going with the best
Driver of the golf ball that I can think of in the field I think it’s going to be Paramount this week who better than ludvig Oar also 20 to1 he was out in San Diego last week doing some work with tius getting everything all dialed in I
Feel like you’re going to pick him a lot this year I probably will probably we’ll pick him he’ll be my new Cory Connors okay yeah well that’s saying something that’s a lot of love everything’s open right now my dark course I could not believe this number when I saw it 80 to1
Just shot a final round 62 under par at the American Express and I know this golf course is much more difficult but you mentioned how important it is to drive the golf ball well this isn’t a birdie Fest um if if it stays wet plays long I can see 10 to 12 underpar
Winning no not many drive it better than this guy give me Keith Mitchell cashmir keth casme 80 to1 the rain’s gone but it could be a little cool his kind of weather be right in his element come on Keith bring it home be right in his element you’ll never get any argument do
One get one for the visor family you know what I mean we only got a couple where dinosaurs out out there uh my next pick I’m also going with another European whose name is hard to pronounce but he’s spent the last two weeks over there on the DP World Tour coming off a
Top 10 in Dubai Ryder cuper hits bombs same kind of blueprint same kind of formula for the reason I picked ludvig but give me Nikolai hoard going off 45 to1 slightly different conditions than he’s seen in the desert the past couple weeks but smashes it great golf swing
Extremely young like doesn’t get enough credit for being one of the Young Guns because he’s so young um I’m going to take him one of the guns cuz he’s young cuz he’s not old you know what I mean that’s why he’s a young gun all right
Quickly before we wrap this up let’s do a little football betc championship this is tough I I I thought from the start of the playoffs it’s going to be Baltimore San Fran that’s not going out on a limit all but the way Kansas City is playing the way they
Played against Buffalo catching three points I mean they’re they always get to play at home they proved everybody wrong they went to Buffalo got the job done this is going to be a hell of a game I think that’s why the line’s only three points but I’m G to take the points give
Me Patrick M anytime you’re giving Patrick Mahomes some points I like it give me him and the Chiefs it’s good someone’s going to be a winner depending on who you tail because I’m going with the Ravens I think they’re on a mission right now at home uh there are rumors
Circulating this could be Travis Kel’s final season um you know who will be in the booth what’ you think of the little whatever the little heart signal after too soft can’t Trav signals up but speaking of that incredible sweet that was loaded with the Kelsey Mahomes Taylor Swift Jason Kelce stole the show
Love that man never met him huge fan congrats on a Hall of Fame career and you are enjoying it my man drinking out of the bowling ball shirtless jumping out of the suite jumping back into the suite love everything he does retired life is good is it God he was going
Crazy with the bills ma Eagles guy coming in bills Mafia embraced him he that’s what you can do when you’re retired he was one of the few people that could steal the show from Taylor Swift yeah in the booth look all right so you got you got Chiefs I got Ravens
Let’s go to the next all right next we got Lions traveling to San Francisco San Francisco had a hell of a time with Green Bay yeah they’re catching seven points Jared G is on a freaking heater man love it their defense is nasty Dan Campbell is my favorite coach in the NFL
And I don’t even think it’s close give me the Lions plus seven man I don’t know if they’re going to win but I think they can cover seven points if they get to the Super Bowl I’m here for it I’m going to adopt the line is my second favorite
Team might be my favorite team with the Cowboys keep sucking um I just love Dan Campbell uh bad news for you here that’s also where I’m going I facto Lions fan my team has not been good in about six or seven years now love Dan Campbell
They’ve also been [ __ ] for so long it’s like the people have Detroit deserve something to root for uh the Niners have been my Super Bowl winner prediction for the entire season they just don’t look quite as good they struggled real bad uh with Green Bay Need to Escape out of
There with a win but I’m going lions in a tub I’ll take the points there so tough break if San Francisco cuz I am icy oh great yeah if San Francisco makes tickets available for the public and don’t just hoard them all like we’ve seen people do in the past the Detroit
Fan base will travel that place will be rocking I just I I’m I love everything that Detroit’s doing right now if they get to Vegas for the Super Bowl it is going to be over run with lions blue in that place and I’m all for it give me
The lions like I said they’ve been so bad for so long I just want the biggest Underdog to win love Dan Campbell I’m all on Detroit all right well there it is Boom so you can only fade one of us I mean I guess the proper play would be to
Take San Fran minus 7even San Fran and then yeah just pick your poison on the first one I have not won [ __ ] in the NFL in a good while all right well thank y’all for listening we got a great one coming your way next week the US Open
Champ wendam Clark joins us to recap his 2024 season you are not going to want to miss this it is a fantastic episode have a great week we’ll talk to you on the next Subpar
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Epic Dustin Johnson impersonation!!! 🤗
What ppl don’t remember that year Watson lost was also the year Kenny Perry choked the masters and scumbag Cabrera wins, David Duval and Phil Mickelson choked at Bethpage with a few holes to go, and Tiger lost his first 54 hole lead in a major. Can you imagine what could have happened that year. If Watson would have won, it quite well have been one of the greatest accomplishments by an athlete. Dude was turning 60.