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00:00 Intro
03:00 What Happened to Arsenal?
06:00 It’s on Arteta
12:00 Should Arteta be replaced now
19:00 Arsenal Improved defensively
25:00 Arsenal Bench
44:00 Can Arteta win the league in the future
01:19:00 Lee Gunner arguing
01:25:00 What is progress?
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Hello and welcome to fuy judge Mall listen today is a special day is a completely different type of a Content we’re talking about Arsenal why are we talking about Arsenal because you guys are doing something that is absolutely crazy out there linked to every kind of player around the world without the
Money so you’re like you want to buy everybody but you have no money you want to buy all the houses but you got no down payment you have no Bank you have no home you have no job but you want to buy all the houses I think this is what
Arsenal are but also want to discuss artetta should he get back should he be backed or should he be sacked now a lot of people say sack him now give me Simon well you don’t have the money to actually buy simion out but that’s what you want but listen I’m here with a
Fantastic panel of course to discuss Arsenal Dan pots is here with us of course the 12 man podcast is here blessing us with an appearance thank you Dan for being here how you doing mate how’s everything yeah I’m good thank you mate it’s been a busy day and busy time
First of all congratulations on over 10K and I’ve Just Seen it’s hit 11k now bro so you’re absolutely flying big up to you my bro I’m glad and it’s an absolute pleasure to be on and thank you for inviting me man a thank you so much and
Sad is here of course the football corner is here with us back in his boy artetta here on on the stream how are you sad how are you doing bro yeah I’m all good man I’m all good you know um yeah man we’re here to talk
Bro this this needed it show this needed its own show bro because it’s it’s so there there’s too much stuff to speak about bro there’s just too much stuff with the club right now to speak about so um yeah big up big up for having me
On man big up to on the panel man hit the like button people Brandon is here with us of course the true Gunner he calls himself the true Gunner but yeah fine you doing Brandon I am the true Gunner Man I I speak F I speak facts not
Not you know this nonsense that people spout BS just saying just saying just saying anybody um and sad make sure you back your boy mate make sure you back your boy because if not I’ll be coming for you any I’ll coming for you anyway yeah big up everybody and also we’re here
With Muhammad salad who’s gonna who’s someone who isn’t convinced about arteta at all and he said that this Aral that’s not true you said Arsenal is not winning not winning the league you remember the debates with the guys more more okay here’s here’s where you’re wrong in it
All right I’m not convinced by Arsenal Football Club I think artetta is magnificent I’m not convinced by Arsenal I don’t think they’re good enough but I think but but I like artetta I think artetta arteta’s got the minerals in my opinion I just don’t think Arsenal this this team currently constructed is good
Enough that there’re two completely different things I’ve always been an artetta fan from the outside I never seen this coming I never seen this coming no no bro you can go back to all of my tweets I’ve like I’ve rarely ever made fun or talk [ __ ] about Etta but Arsenal that’s
A completely different story I don’t think this Arsenal team is good enough to win buta like you like artetta you just don’t like the team he’s built no I I think I think they’ve built a very good team just not good enough right now I feel like you’re one or two
Pieces away in my opinion bro tongue andek bro is come no but but but I genuinely believe this Arsenal team that has been built from scratch is one or two people being like challenging on all fronts in my opinion I mean they’re not far off you can try four or
Five I don’t know about four or five yeah trust me four or five so so so what happened so so so I’m gonna start actually with with Dan since he’s the one who is not here all the time what happened why is this Arsenal team look
Weaker why is this Arsenal team isn’t as good as last season same manager even you would think that the players gained more experience by the year which this is logical what happened he’s backed he got some of the players he wanted the players got older you got one of the
Best DMS in the world in your Club edu now is in the same wavelength as artetta what happened why are we sitting here today talking about Arsenal being not up to the bar or the bar whatever instead of us talking about our being in a title race and everybody’s
Chasing you like last year what happened um unfortunately mate a lot lies at the manager’s door this season so far um and the reason why I say that is because every Department of our team there is a question mark which he has caused the mess of so if we start with
The goalkeeping situation that’s a complete mess we don’t know what’s going on there he’s caused that um I actually like Ry and ramsdale I don’t think either of them are um a shambles but neither of them are Addison Allison or an Edison so if you’re going to replace
Aaron ramsdale calm I like him but cool who we getting in Allison Edison type player no Raya who’s on par if not worse than ramsdale so that’s poor right that’s on the manager’s doorstep then you go into the defense last season we had eight Defenders we had Kieran San
Zenchenko left back we had Tommy Yu and Ben White right back we had Rob Holden and celra as right center backs and we had Kor and Gabrielle as left center backs we’ve replaced Rob Holden with yurian Simba and we saw sold karantini on loan which means we’re now short one
At left back and Tommy Yu’s now gone to the Asian cup Tim gets injured we no longer got a left back we having to play Kio there because he didn’t replace tiny Timber got injured on loan uh sorry Timber got injured and Tiny was allowed to leave on loan why fair enough loan
Him but replace him man we need him we’ got no left back now on melara then we go into Midfield Thomas part’s injured again who saw that coming did anybody see that coming he’s injured again let’s go and get the bloke that we bought in uh in the summer to replace him Dean
Rice now let’s go and get Granite chaker to play alongside him oh he’s gone who replaced him Dean rice but he’s now playing the six so where’s our eight we’re going to spend 65 million on Kai averts and play him in an eight everybody knows he’s not a midfielder
Three years of Chelsea can tell you this guy cannot play as a number eight but mik Letta thinks he can hold that bro because it’s on you up top Gabrielle Jesus he’s injured we can’t have Eddie up top again who else we got oh it’s Eddie again that’s all I knew muel why
Did you not buy a striker why did you spend 65 million pounds on averts when you could have had a center forward then you go to the right sacka saaka is looking a bit tired a he Jesus sacka looks tired let’s bring the right winger we brought in the last year when sacka
Was knacked needed to come in who is it can’t be ree Nelson again surely oh it’s Reese re steps forward how have we improved where’s where’s the bench from last season seon and compare it to this season it’s exactly the same there is absolutely no players coming on that
You’re going right bring the new signing on now he’s already starting right okay where’s the other one oh he’s injured okay where’s the other one there isn’t any so people are talking about injuries that happens in football trust me we’ve done well compared to some other clubs
In injuries look at Spurs look at Newcastle even like Chelsea United they’ve all had worse injury problems than Arsenal so we’re in a situation right now with people think it’s crisis I don’t think it’s crisis with five points off the top and we’re in the Champions League last 16 but we’re close
To being crisis if things don’t change and I said when the transfer window shot moo I said I’ve had a six out of 10 window again why what negative toxic nine out of 10 window we got Delan rice in I said hang on that’s one good signing we’re shorten about four areas
Which is ones I’ve just highlighted no we’re not you’re too negative go down the lane support Tottenham I don’t really understand the fan base that say that because when I’m demanding to win footb matches the last thing I would do would go and support a team that doesn’t
Win anything so what the hell does that mean go and support Tottenham get out me Club makes no sense I’m pointing out concerns I’m raising the issues that I think can now come to fruition and I think personally at the moment that’s why we are looking at ourselves in a top
Four race not a title race whether you can talk title race at the moment is maybe it’s too early maybe you have to get towards the end of February March time right to see where everyone is but right now the reason we’ve struggled is because in every Department there’s a
Problem that’s been caused by the manager and that’s why there’s severe pressure on Mikel yeah but but to be honest with you I just wanted to you’re starting 11 have had one change of a player just one which is Kai havitz that’s just one you’re starting
11 forget the bench people people okay a lot of people come here Brandon north side of course comes here every week and you guys talk about the bench and all the stuff the bench is for crisis but if your starting 11 isn’t playing the same type of football like before
There has to be something wrong that’s what I’m asking it’s the Ben change from the manager brother and he didn’t reacted this is the problem just quickly sorry because I know I’ve just been going on a big monologue there but for me just quickly that that there was
No need to overreact like he has we were quite happy playing the style of football that we were playing people will say it’s now the opposition’s fault and they’re now doubling up on sackur and Martin they’re all the same stat even if they were Mo surely the coach
Would do something about it or would he just keep trying the same it’s not true Dan it’s not true no that’s what I’m saying but even if it was true would you not think the answer would then be what is’s plan B then and there isn’t a plan
B because it’s just fling on Eddie and K and REE Nelson and and pray and cross your fingers at saying I’ll happen so for me it ain’t good enough and I agree with with what muham said I think they’re actually they’re big up Joe by
The way big up Jo I I think that there is there is a style problem and I think that the squad is still weak and now I’ve said this for a long long time now it’s coming to fruition mod but you’re right the the change of style is is a
Mad one for me there was no need for it and you say that we made one change we’ve made two because obviously the goalkeepers no longer and we’ve obviously got HTS in there as well so there’re the two changes people can say party’s been out and Timber’s out
They’ll probably come in to replace zenko and havez in the first 11 and maybe things will change then I don’t know but for me it’s not been a good start in my opinion I’ve not been convinced by Arsenal in many games this season I’ve not sat back and gone quite
Well yeah I tell you what people are scared of us people are happy to play Arsenal right now because they fancy their chances so that can’t be a good thing yeah yeah that was incredible by the way that was that was a fantastic um like that’s going to take a lot of
Beating like he explained everything so perfectly I really appreciate that by the way just thought I let you know thank you you know what as rare some people say that so thank you bro I mean even though I didn’t agree with a lot of I mean some of the things that you said
Like it was it was really well laid out and all of your arguments made made perfect sense like you weren’t just talking nonsense and being just negative and anti like everything made sense and and I appreciate those kind of arguments you know what I’m trying to say I piig
Up bro I appreciate well listen people that was still slow burner here but let’s get the likes up to 100 likes so we can get more people watching on this day at the evening of course smash the like button people I’m going to go to sad actually you backed Etta the whole
Season now you’re being an honest guy and you said that yeah now he has to change stuff otherwise he has to go but you’re always giv him until the end of the season son always every time I speak to you you are saying I have to wait until the end of the
Season don’t you think that there will be someone else that will come in and get something better out of the squad from this at this point I don’t think there’s anybody who can come in and win the Le League there’s nobody who can come in and possibly win the
Champions League at the moment with the squad as it is there’s someone that came there’s a Portuguese man that became available today champions league is his Forte no no let’s let’s not do that the thing is I listen I rate Mourinho yeah but just I
Don’t I want I want I want someone who can come in um that has that winning pedigree if let’s let’s say for instance if arteta does get sacked I want somebody to come in who does have pedigree and has one trophies but can also do it for at least five to six
Years do you know what I mean build something that can be over a five six year uh stretch where they can where they can win trophies with us and have a good um a good spell Arsenal but for me the reason why I give why why I’m giving
Etta until the end of the season is because we have Thomas party coming back who in this Midfield the main thing we’ve been missing in this Midfield is line breaking passes we’ve been playing we’ve been playing um havit in the Midfield who is absolutely useless he’s not a midfielder he isn’t he doesn’t
Want to get onto the ball when he does get onto the ball he carries it Forward he doesn’t pass it to Martinelli Martinelli has no assistance on that side same thing with havs um same thing with um what’s his name zenchenko so miket has taking a gamble a massive
Gamble by bringing in this guy havs bringing him in say I’m going to play him yes but that change the fact that you took Granite Jaa out of that team Granite Jaa done so much for us so much he would back he would whenever zenchenko would go forward he would
Cover him at left back whenever he got the ball he’d pass it straight away to Martinelli get the ball to him ASAP if you look at the progressive passes compare jaa’s Progressive passes to havs and look at look at how Martinelli’s Progressive um passes received has dropped
Since havit has been in that Midfield compared to when he was there when when Jaa was there Jaa was such a big part of this of this style that we were playing the fact that he’s had to change that style in order to incorporate Hazard habits Hazard wish we had Hazard um to
Incorporate havit in this team has made it so we’re literally so slow from how we were last season last season it was quick quick play passing it would catch the catch the the um the team offu guard because we were so quick and so fast with the ball but now we are
Not so fast we’re slow and he’s taking a gamble so he has to go through this whole season I’m giving him until the end of the season to see if he can fix it because it’s his job to fix it he’s put himself in this mess he’s put himself in this
Mess an instruction from the manager not Kai have it himself I actually I disagree with this comment actually it’s just abilities I think they made a massive mistake with the sky harv signing you know when you’re like you didn’t Scout him well you thought you’re getting the Leverkusen guy you literally got scammed
Into this player and they they should have done better and the problem is he’s so stubborn Etta and he knows one way of playing football and it doesn’t work with this guy and this is where you are at the moment it’s a simple sorry I feel like the havoc’s um like
The havoc’s bashing I hear it but I feel like it it can go over the top sometimes because we’ve seen some positives he gets into scoring areas when he’s in and around the box he can be an effective player do you know what I’m trying to
Say I don’t know why you like rolling your eyes because it’s a zil the guy’s ability is zil no I’m saying if you if you can you can get something out of him you know what I’m trying saying if you use him in the right areas of the pitch
If you give him the right service if you if you allow him to operate I mean if you want him to operate as a midfielder yes fair enough he’s useless but I’m saying what is he good at what is he excel at I’m telling you he’s good in
And around the area he’s got some quality he’s got a good touch he can he can bring others into play he’s got some good qualities maybe he hasn’t displayed it but he has qualities I mean he’s got qualities you what I’m trying to say I mean that’s that’s has he
Got here why I don’t here’s why I don’t agree with Mo when you say you’ve only replaced one player in your starting lineup it’s a completely different profile of player you know what I’m trying to say like Jack Granite jacket takes a lot of replacing so even though
It is one player that one player is it’s a midfielder first of all it’s not a left back or a right back it’s it’s it’s a very core piece that you’ve changed and your quality has decreased so I agree I’m G Brandon talk Mina say big up
Where is nor side for the toxic and negative crew I can never imagine that sad and D pots will be sitting on the channel and being called a negative crew that that never should happen but yeah listen Brandon what you’re not negative son no no no no listen um all I wanted
To just add to that as well yeah all I wanted to do was just to add to that um the only reason why the only reason why I would blame artetta and havitz for this is because our system was solely based on the mid on our Wingers getting
Majority of the goals you don’t have the gun man up front in order to get you the goals so why would you eradicate one of the goals completely from Martinelli Martinelli doesn’t get any assistance at all at all so why would you take that away from him and then Saka Saka has the
Ga this season is still not consistent enough but he there’s only so much let’s not let’s not bring the G in question let’s not let’s not bring the G in question we’ve seen all like all these rebound goals and all I mean like saaka is nowhere near as good as he was last
Year yeah of course no no I’m not saying that he’s at the level I’m not saying at the level I’m not saying he’s at the level but he’s at times he’s still managed to pull something out the bag last minute to save us do you know what
I mean from a lot of games that could have been a l could have been a draw no no he scored four goals he scored four goals bro always one of them one of them was a penalty so the only the only thing the only thing for me is Kai havitz for
What he takes away from Martinelli he’s not producing enough goals he needs to he right now he should be on at least seven eight nine even goals from that Midfield he has yes he should yes he should if he’s if he’s taking away the goals from Martinelli and offering no
Help then he should be he should be taking on those goals and scoring them so many times where he’s been in in positions where he could have shot and he can’t he can’t even control the ball with his feet I feel like I feel like what you’re doing is you’re you’re
You’re placing a lot of blame you’re taking blame from others and placing it on havocs and trying to find out like Martinelli’s been poor this year do you know what I’m trying to like in his one-on-one in his one-on-one battles he’s been poor in front of goal he’s
Been poor his decision making he’s been poor and you’re trying to you’re trying to blame that on him not receiving the ball as much but when he has received the ball he’s not done he’s not done anything with it like I feel like one of the main reasons that Arsenal have taken
A step back this year is because last year older guard Martinelli and sacka were all 10 15 goal players and if they’re not producing that you need someone else to do that and Gabriel Jesus is never going to score 50 20 goals so you need you need to get those
Goals from somewhere but like if Martinelli and S actually false though that’s actually statistically that’s actually false what do you mean because Gabriel Jus scored 11 goals last year and only played 24 games so that’s false no I’m saying but Gabriel Jesus isn’t your 25 30 goal Striker though he never
Has been he never will be it was 20 a minute ago so now it’s 25 no no I’m saying I’m saying just generally I’m just I’m talking generally he’s not your he’s not your Harland your aiman like your your prototypical he not off so much else he offers a lot I’m not bro
You’re finding an argument you’re arguing with something I’m not even saying I’m not even talking about that I’m saying if you don’t have that profile of player you need your Wingers to consistently contribute with goals yeah they they AR contributing because of they’ve not been doing that so that’s
Why Arsenal have Tak I’m literally answering your overall question of why Arsenal have taken a step back it’s because their Wingers are not playing as well as they were older God is Not on point do you think do you think it’s them for fault or do you think it’s more
Of a manager thing that the start of players Chang I think I think the system has a lot I think it’s a system that has a lot to do with it the fact I think the system does have a lot to do with it but
But the system is as a result of the second half of your season last year does that make sense like La the first half of last season it was a miraculous start it was absolutely incredible it was it was an all-time great start 50 points in the first half of the Season
Only three or four teams have done that ever right the second half of the season was absolutely poor and so I think the style of Play Change was because of that second half season you’re obviously not going to start as well as you started last year so you’d rather control games more and
Be more defensively astute and I think that’s controlled football sorry controlled football no no no I mean have been better defensively though I know they have no you’re right you’re actually right so Arsenal have been better defensively and how did you work that one out I mean you’ve been better I
Mean you can see that Arsenal are more structured and more compact like you can see that Aral Arsenal are harder to break down this year are they are you going to tell me are just as easy to break down are they giv up many chances they’re not they’re definitely
Noted okay but we’ve conceded more goals than what we that’s fine you ConEd more I mean hang on hang on hang hang hang on hang on hang on we’re also we’re also very poor at defending from set pieces right now we can seeed three goals from
Set pieces in the last three games last season I think we conceded what two from set pieces in the entire season so this whole defense defensive structure thing it don’t add up with with okay I’m talking about I’m talking about being Compact and defensive you’re talking about conceding from set pieces yeah I
Mean you can always concede from set piece I’m talking about conceding goals in open plate is the biggest I mean you’re going to concede way more goals from open play Then are going to be from set pieces I’m trying you watch us against Fulham I didn’t really watch no
Exactly this is what I mean we’re not we’re not that compact defensively bro we’re really not yeah the way teams hit is on the counter that’s how West Ham beat us that’s how Fulham beat us you know and Fulham didn’t even really sit back either they actually they actually
Went for The Jug they actually tried to play football against us and you know so defensively we ain’t that great this season it it’s not as the same as what it was last season it’s really not and when you got multiple players that are not performing it comes down to one man
And that’s the manager you know if you got indivi if you got one or two individuals in the team that are not reaching the levels that you see from last season but the rest of the team is you can accept it and you can just say okay it’s the individual’s fault but
When you got a whole team that’s not performing in the same manner of uh uh or level that we was last season it comes down to the manager it’s it’s it’s all at the manager does and once again what is he what has he done wrong he
Went out in the transer market he tried to be Mr clever big bollocks yeah I’m I’m pep number two and I can go and sign a play who’s done absolutely nothing in the Premier League for three seasons but I can get a tune out of him you know
Look we we we went and broke our well almost broke our transfer record for him and people are telling me Oh but he’s a plan B and we’re having to use him as a plan B what we spent 65 million pound on a plan B are you serious I mean I mean
All the big teams have expensive substitutes and and I get that but let’s let’s have a look at let’s have the if everyone if everyone’s fit if party’s fit habits doesn’t play so so he he’s a that’s a mistake as well let me ask you I’m not saying it’s not a
Mistake I’m just saying like to base everything around oh Kai havit he bought Kai havit everyone’s got on their bench that’s an open floor by the anybody that’s fine but let’s have a look let’s have a look at the players that are also available to Mikela right on the bench
Emil Smith Road who why do you want to talk on the bench this is what I’m not Brandon before we talk on the bench let’s have the people that start every game forget the bench let’s talk about the players because the ones that are under performing Brandon are the ones on
The on the page the bench so why are we looking at the bench you want to complain about the bench complain when you need the you haven’t you shouldn’t need the bench now you have Timber injured and Dick R and sorry and and what’s his name uh party why are we
Talking about the bench if you listen for one second then you understand my point right rather than interrupting me right look at the Players he’s got available to him that are not currently in this starting 11 let’s just say are you telling me that EML Smith Rose
Scored 10 goals in the Premier League two seasons ago is not better suited to the role that Kai hav is currently playing in this team are you telling me that are you telling me are you telling me that the manager can’t get more out of EML Smith
Row than what he’s getting out of him right now telling me he can’t get more more out of Trad do you know what I mean like it it all again it all stems back down to the manager and yes I’m going to talk about the bench because that’s also part of
His Squad right it’s part of his Squad the first 11 they’re not performing because he’s overcorrected from what happened last Seas IE easy and so lazy to say oh it’s the manager’s fault I mean this like you need I feel like I feel like football streaming the default is the manager I
Feel like that’s just the default rather than rather than like the normal thing to do would be allow it to play out it’s been a couple of months you’re not even that far off it’s all of a sudden manager out I don’t I’ve never understood that never you’ve just said
You’ve just said right before we went live you don’t watch that many Premier League games yeah I me I didn’t I didn’t say that I said I don’t like the Premier League okay you don’t like the Premier League I watch Arsenal week in week out every single week so far this season
Yeah we played against not in a forest on the opening day of the Season wasn’t convincing we had to beat Crystal Palace by a penalty we went 2-n down to a very poor Chelsea side and only just about managed to get a draw in that we beat Manchester United but if garnacho wasn’t
Offside by an Nat [ __ ] we don’t win that game if uh we had to score a last last minute 94th minute winner against Lon Town yeah these are all signs to me that Arsenal haven’t been convincing at all throughout the entirety of this season there’s not a single game in the Premier
League where we have been convincing like we was last season last season we was ending games by halftime two free goals in in the first half and the game was done not a single performance have I seen like that from any of these players this season even William S in recent
Weeks has started to become a little bit shaky now what I’m saying is when you’ve got multiple players the entire play the entire first 11 the entire Squad not performing why is that well only comes down to one man doesn’t it he’s changed too much you know why is it that sacka
And Martinelli are so easily nullified this season when last season they were on fire they’re on absolute F odard and yeah you look I’m not even going to sit here and completely blame the manager because I do think that the players have responsibility as well but I also was
Somebody in the summer who was crying out and saying look we need a striker and people said to me you’re mad we scored 88 goals in the Premier League last season I said all it takes is for one or two of these players to not perform at the same level that they did
Last season and your goals will dry up oh we don’t need a striker we don’t don’t need a striker guess what we now need a striker everybody’s calling for a striker and all of a sudden we can’t go and get that Striker because my man decided to go and buy Kai havit from
Chelsea for 65 million pound he decided to buy Fabio Vieira he decided to keep EML Smith row he decided to give new contracts to Eddie and K and REE Nelson all these players that he don’t trust in and when things are not going right or
We need to go and win a game he don’t want to bring him off the bench he’s waiting till the 80th minute Brandon what’s your solution my solution is my well what what my solution is is if you had it your way if you if if Brandon was
The chairman of Arsenal Football Club right now what would you do differently what would I do differ what would you do now right now you’re in charge you committed decision what would you do well for me I’ve I’ve seen enough of Al personally okay so who
So who do you who do you replace him with who do I replace him with well I would’t be as tight as stand Josh gr that’s for sure I’d go and get Zan and I’d thr money at him until he comes yeah but you don’t have the money that’s what
People okay Brandon this is what listen I’m not defending artetta this season 20 games in there is no excuse to play that brand of football right there’s no excuse to play that brand of football in the beginning I was like yeah wait maybe it’s controlled football maybe he’s G to
Get better maybe the players will perform but I’m having the same energy that I had for klopp last year if I have more than four or five or six players not performing well I will put it on the manager not on the player it’s a so I’m
With you here right I’m with you here I’m I’m gonna say this is on arteta however artetta last year played a very good brand of football we all agree on that right we all agree on that you were hit with a terrible injury of William Sala Thomas party underperformed and got
Injured you lost the lead done we saw that this year it will get better it didn’t get better in the first 10 games we thought he’s gonna fix it he didn’t fix it he didn’t fix it and now now we’re here but I’m not saying that you
Should sack him today to get somebody else when you’re still forth because the risk that you’re gonna take if you suck him and get a caretaker that you might miss on top four completely Miss now Mo I’m not saying sck him now I’m saying he
Has to fix this and the only way we’re going to fix this is by dipping into the transfer market but we don’t there is no money no apparently there’s no money right but we have Eddie and Kea who’s not good enough should have been sold in the
Summer why can’t we why can’t we sell him why can’t we sell him there’s clubs that are interested Edd and K is actually a very good backup to have on any Premier League team why why is Emil Smith row still here when the manager clearly
Don’t trust in him why can’t we sell him I had to ignore what Mo just said bro because I that was that was Ed K is a good backup Striker he’s not a good backup Striker I’m not even saying he should be fighting on any Premier Le I’m saying
He’s a good enough back up to having your squad he doesn’t he he doesn’t he doesn’t fit our team he doesn’t that’s fair that’s a very let me ask arum you did you rate Nicholas B mamed his games to goal ratio is better than Eddie and ker bner so that proves
How po Eddie and ker is again I’m not saying anything Eddie Eddie’s last away away goal was against Oxford in the XA Cup in January 2022 so bro he is not good enough for us he’d be fine if you want to go play for Palace or Burnley or
Go down a championship I’m sure he’ll do very well I hate not the worst backup in the world that’s that’s all I’m saying I mean is he good enough to win a title for us in a squad absolutely not absolutely I’m saying that’s what I want
I want the title bro I don’t want top four found that 20 years no but that’s not point I’m saying I’m saying like um not every player in your squad is going to win you a title does that make sense or I mean you just need a player that
Will contribute a few goals Off the Bench here and there that’s that’s that’s all it is and he can do that that’s I mean I mean obviously but what I’m saying you said he’s a very good backup Striker for me we can do better so we got to go and do better that’s
Fair enough that’s fair enough that’s fair you know you know M Muhammad you know the thing is yeah I can accept that train of thought yeah that in a title race or title team the one that’s going for the title and wants to win the title I can accept you have certain players
That can chip in with a few goals here and there yeah I’d expect that from like a midfielder like a Dean rice he’s scored he’s scored what three goals so far so that’s good he’s contributing here and there to try and get us through he’s scoring goals here and there hoping
With a with an assist I think he’s also got under under his belt um for Arsenal at the moment but when you’re a striker you have to be scoring at least 10 goals the season at least with with the game time that he gets he has to be
Scoring 10 goals at least you know the problem is guys guys do you know what the problem is with Edan Kya is that the first striker in the club is Gabrielle Jesus I think that’s the main problem so Adan Kya can be the backup for for for
Someone like if you guys had ion Victor o enough backup for those kind of players yeah the problem with them is that edian ketya isn’t a backup Striker Edan ketya is an option Off the Bench he isn’t a backup Striker to a first Striker because when things don’t go
Your way when Gabriel J plain who is a false nine you need a number nine Off the Bench to get you the game to win you the game to get across to get you across the line to get at the end of a cross
You know what I mean in the 18 Eden Kya isn’t that guy that’s why I’m actually with the guys here I actually don’t think Ed K is good enough for Arsenal if they want to win the title they need someone better but I’m not sure if someone better will
Come to Arsenal and sit on the bench at the moment Gabriel juice can play on the left side but can they go and convince Ivan Tony to come and sit on the bench no well we got to go and get some jayus has got to become our backup and our all
Right that’s got Happ that’s got to happen but hold on then last year the whole plan worked with Gabrielle Jesus as a false nine the the Martinelli the sakas like them they scored each and every one of them more than 15 what did we lift at
The end of the season with it because because go back to Dan’s point this goes back to Dan’s point right at the beginning where just created all of these problems which I understand it just got I mean what what Dan said at the beginning alet just created a lot of
A lot of problems and I hear it but at the same time I feel like it’s too soon to be can when when you compare right we had lacazette and we had aubameyang right when they were both s say let’s just say in their Prime at Arsenal right
The amount of goals that Gabrielle Jus can contributes to the team is exactly the same or on a similar level to lacazette our problem is we didn’t replace aubameyang and we didn’t replace aubameyang’s goals or goal contributions I know he dried up towards the end of his Arsenal career but when he was
Firing he was a Difference Maker in this team that’s what we need we need a Difference Maker somebody who can score you 20 goals a season no problem at all because then when players like you sackers your Martinelli your oards are not performing at the level you’ve got
That person there who can guarantee you the goals and that’s where that’s where it’s it’s not working out Bron if you if you had one of those guys like a Victor oim and Ivan Tony do you reckon you could win the league guys Ivan Tony isn’t better than
Gabrielle Jesus I don’t know how many I say that you need to calm down I’m talking about the profile like if you had you need to relax to calm relax stop shouting I get this I get this when every single says he’s a good player in everything
The guy plays in a counterattacking team Arsenal are a position based team I understand I understand I understand that mosala let you down and Egypt don’t look that good I get It he’s he’s going for he’s going for them on Brendon my question was if you had that profile of Striker that will get you 25 goals a season would this team be good enough to win the league I’m not saying I haven’t I’m not even I even
Compare it I don’t know where you’re jumping conclusion for relax before before we do that guys big up everybody that joined from LB stream of course big up lb for the raid lb of course his first comment as always me and him argue about that ivanon is clear of Jesus from
A finishing point of view 100% never argued that never argued that never argue that but is he a better player can he fit the Arsenal system if you get a number n like Ivan ton you’ll have to change your system and that’s why you guys no you don’t no you don’t no you
Don’t no you don’t look at how many look at how Mo come on man I know you watch you watch Arsenal so watch every single yes so exactly so you know that this season we’ve been crossing the ball into the box so many times where is the striker and that’s why Martinelli aren
Getting the goal guard isn’t performing yes but when you bring an Ivan Tony in Ivan Tony not only is there to to score the goals not not not even hold on hold on let me just finish let me just finish yeah not only does he finish yeah and
Not only does he position himself very well and he’s a presence in the box so when he’s going up for a head off 5050 6040 he’s winning it he’s winning it so so not only does he do that but he also has a pass on him we’ve seen it with
Wiissa witho when he plays with them he manages to find them when they’re running and they’re running on a Counterattack it’s fine he’ll find I think so if they’re going off the Counterattack if if they if they’re going off the Counterattack if we have a Counterattack which we did have at
Multiple times he can find he can find maranelli or sacko when they’re making runs if we’re playing The Possession ball and we’re crossing the ball in he’s in the middle positions himself well with that all Mr Khan is saying love the content thank you so much Mr KH for the Super
Chat more love the content congrats 10K 100 K Lo thank you so much for everybody here than for everybody before you go on everybody that joined from Lee Gunners Le react stream big up guys thank you so much for being we’re speaking Arsenal so
You are in luck with a uh a crew that is U half of them on our can I finish my question to Bron let me ask you a question Mo you just said you just said Ivan Tony’s a massive risk Y which one’s the bigger risk Ian Tony or Victor
Osan I think Victor oan I think uh depends on the price but if Ivan ton is 100 million of course Ivan Ton’s is is more risk logically he’s not going to be 100 million in the summer he won’t be 100 million I guarantee you that price I
Guarantee you that price you guys I’m going to tell you one thing and Ivan Tony will go for the same price in the summer they won’t I’m telling you I mean only reason with Napoli finishing seven or six in the league and oima not scoring the amount of goals nobody will
Pay the money they want for aan you do realize you do realize he’s just signed a new contract with the release Clause you’re paying the release clause or he’s staying it’s as simple as that actually he said actually what’s he been like what’s he been like because I don’t
Watch S as much what’s he been like aan what I mean last year or this year this year this year this year this year as a whole no not this year because it’s only 15 days old but you get what I’m saying this season okay okay this season I mean
We’ve been poor as a team as a whole it’s been horrible but um but he’s probably still been our best player you know he’s still what what what’s aan like with his back to goal playing with his back to goal he brings others into play he’s pretty good he’s actually
Pretty good people think he’s only first touch is great passing is good dribbling in tight spaces played in the highest position team in the league last year so there were no spaces for him to work the difference between I he’s he’s he’s actually he’s he’s surprisingly good not surprisingly but it’s like unexpectedly
Good because when people see a player like oan they expect a certain profile but but he does a bit of he does a bit of everything his hold up plays good his touch is good as Mo said is dribbling his tight spaces you see him get out of some really really weird situations
Where he has no right getting out of and he’ll create something for you and he can score every type of goal Left Foot Right Foot in every type of goal he can score I think I think that’s a level Razer for Arsenal and that goes back to the initial question before Mo rudely
Interrupted me if you can get an elite level Striker that will score 25 or 30 goals a season do you think this team is good enough to win the Premier League if yeah I mean if we go back to the way that we was playing last season or
Similar to yeah but I do I do I don’t even I don’t think it’s just the striker that we need I do still think we have holes in this team you know we was we in the team or holes in the squad well holes in holes in the squad more than
Holes in the team because you know mo like M just said why did Arsenal lose the league last season William CBA got injured we’ve left ourselves with seven Defenders when we had eight last season all it takes is for you know one or one of William Cel or Gabrielle to get
Injured and all of a sudden we’re stuck with Kor at the back again and we see how well that panned out for us against Liverpool so I actually think as well Brandon it wasn’t just celba getting injured last season there was more was a massive massive blow don’t
Get me wrong and Rob holding come in so we all know what happened there you can’t even get into the palace side right but when you look at it the man management from Mikel artetta in the games against West Ham Liverpool and Southampton shocking and against Brighton and Forest if you remember at
The end of the season where southton as well by the way you can’t 31 and and and that’s why and that’s why when people say oh Arsenal lost the league CA got injured I I don’t accept that because you’re winning two you’re winning two-nil at West Ham you’re down
3-1 to an already relegated Southampton said obviously if if I mean if Liverpool come back at anfield you can’t even hate on that but the man Management in that game was poor as well from the minute was should have changed something so that’s why I won’t really accept the
William CBA um the William CBA excuse but at the same time even even though I’ve been like defending artetta to an extent and saying he needs time Etc he’s still a pretty young inexperienced manager okay so that brings me and he’s very and he’s very hard-headed by the
Way that doesn’t help if you’re not willing to learn a young manager let me ask you this then what have you seen from artetta this season in terms of his man management his tactics his his substitutions during his in-game management I think I think I think Etta’s in-game management hasn’t
Improved even 10% since he took over at Arsenal by the way there you go that’s um there go and people meon don’t get me wrong when when I talk about artetta I’m not talking about him as the complete article now I’m saying he shown he shown things over his period at Arsenal that
He can be a top manager and that’s where I’m looking at it because I’m looking I’m asking you a question then just for this statement do you think Arsenal Football Club is a guinea pig no I think I think um I think they’re perfect for each other because
Arsenal haven’t been good for 20 years and they are going to get somewhere together does that make sense it’s a process together that’s what I’m saying and that’s why at the beginning and that’s people don’t like it this is exactly where people don’t like it this
Is why and that’s why right at the beginning and that’s why right at the beginning Mo I said I believe artetta can be whatever I just don’t think Arsenal at this moment you believe he can be the arson Wenger he can be he can be the Alexus I think if they allow him
To I think if they allow him to do this process because Arsenal haven’t been I don’t understand why Arsenal are expecting a league title now they’ve not been good in in two de ades four years 640 million pound spent that might have something to do I understand that but at
The same time you already so much behind Man City Man City are still spending so you still got all of that Gap to make up does that make sense so if you talk about it logically from an outside perspective there’s still have no Gap to
Make up last season can I can I can I just have no Gap to make up I don’t understand we was eight points clear with eight games to go last season God I’m talking about Squad in terms of the talent of the team terms reason reason reason mo mo doesn’t hate Arsenal
He has no team in the Premier League so I am 100% sure that he’s seen it from an objective point of view but maybe his objectiveness is not to your liking okay here’s an OB because I know because I know you’re gonna say you’re gonna say oh we finished eight points behind him
But that was after a very very unlikely improbable start to a Premier League season 50 points in in the first half of the season is impossible teams have done that in premier league history it was an accident I won’t call it an accident fair enough you deserved it but the gap
Between Arsenal and man city is so big it’s massive right there’s a massive Gap and you can’t expect someone to bridge that in four years they’ve already had a 10-year Head Start they’ve been building this foundation for so long so is there is there is there not a possibility in
Your mind that Etta couldn’t be Arsenal as Brandon Rogers because that’s what I see I see a manager that can get us to a point I mean it’s a half halfing it I see from an optimistic point of view from the outside looking in I if you
Want to be negative that’s up to you but I’m I’m looking at as like I don’t see that as negative can we establish something before you say Brendon noers I get it gets on my nerve if freaking step Gerard didn’t slip Brendon noer would have won the league instead of Jurgen
Club can we just establish that right they were gonna win the league step jard slip is an unfortunate thing that happened top and to Brendan Rogers career so I get what you’re saying but to say is completely different no it’s not if St J just respond to Le com it’s a very
Good Ste didn’t slip then Brandon Rogers would have won the league if William CA didn’t get injured we probably would have won an injury is different than a slip but no it isn’t no a sleep doesn’t happen every day don’t sit there and say captain receiving the ball the last man
On the pitch slipping is something that doesn’t are you saying what are you saying then Mo that Brandon Rogers is better than Arta lebrandon no is completely different story though because arteta I’m gonna say this as many times it’s the way you look at Arsenal and I’m gonna put Lee’s comment
Up now the way you look at Arsenal is one of two things are Arsenal in a place where the fans should demand the league title today or Arsenal in a place where fans should accept where they are yes you spent a lot of money some other team
Spent a lot of money and they accept a process and you believe in Etta can be the next Alex feron or whatever mo mo doesn’t think that Arsenal hold on Mo doesn’t think Arsenal should be a guinea pig the reason why I’m saying that because you have the financial power and
You have a stadium that you should be winning the league so it’s up to the board and it’s up to the fans and it’s up to you your belief in this man a lot of people and I spoke to Lee and I spoke to NORAD I spoke to you Brandon you guys
Believe no matter how many years go by this arteta guy isn’t it isn’t it no matter how many years we give him he is never gonna win us the league that’s a completely different story from the story most salad is talking about that’s a completely different story because
That demolishes his whole argument if you say arteta will never be it there’s no argument here we cannot even debate it you’re saying sack the guy he should never have been hired we need a better manager it’s a well let’s let’s look at it from an Arsenal’s perspective because
Everybody even even including the areta sexuals and all the top gooners yeah don’t look at me they’re expect at me you one well you was one as well my friend hey no that’s hilarious on a whole all I heard in the summer from Arsenal fans was we’ve had a great
Transfer window we’ve got rean rice in this that and the other right I don’t think any Arsenal fan is fickle enough to say we’re the favorites to win the league title even I wouldn’t sit here no I don’t think even a g or Babs would sit there and say arsenal are the favorites
To win the league title when you’ve got when you’re competing against Manchester City right so the expectation from all Arsenal fans all Arsenal fans and you can go back and watch it right at the beginning of the season was to challenge for the league title again and to win a
Trophy the biggest disappointment for me is it don’t look like we’re going to win a trophy unless we go and do a Madness in the Champions League which I highly doubt and once again we’ve gone out of two domestic trophies at the turn of the
Year in the early stages of it and and people want to still sit there and say this is the man when we can’t bloody get we can’t even win an FA Cup or a carabel cup let alone a [ __ ] Premier League come on I’m not let me just put these out Cen is
Saying prediction Arsenal win the next three games and be two points off top and the mown ends and everybody saying Arsenal and title race again thank you see for the super chat if that happens I’m telling you half the Arsenal fan base will say yes arteta in now let’s
Back him until the end of the season I don’t know you wanted me to put that league on a bigger Le of course for the comment is saying Jose 0405 41 years old and a squad average of age 24.9 years old artetta 22 23 40 years old an
Average Squad age 24.6 years old Arsenal average Squad age 0809 22 Champions League Le with the facts fact and this is why it annoys me when people say to me you expect man Champions League first year back in the Champions League with Arsenal young team
Young team Eddie and K is the same major Tren Alexander Arnold by the way he’s 24 he’s not a kid to me about kids like we’re not got kids man they’ve got experience they got four years under one manager not a lot of people at 23 24
Have four years of a same manager playing the way there should be no excuses about a young young team anymore man honestly that good though we’ve already established that but but the point I’m trying to make is it’s unfair to compare artetta to Jose Mourinho Jose Mourinho in my opinion is the greatest
Manager of all time absolutely is before he came before he came to Chelsea he was in Portugal in two years he won every single trophy available like that’s just a that’s a completely different different animal there and my point is if you guys are saying Arsenal are you
Want Arsenal to win the win the league now I will never sit here and defend Etta because arteta is not there yet and and I said that right at the beginning of the conversation I feel like Arsenal and arteta can grow together to become a winning team if if if Brendan and Lee
Gunner’s argument and and all of you guys that are saying we deserve a Premier League trophy now then I I agree with you artetta is not there yet because he’s stubborn he’s hard-headed his in-game management is poor his um his transfer his the players he signs
Are are hit and miss from time to time I completely agree with you guys but if my my entire thing is it’s a process artetta and Arsenal are in a process together Arsenal have a one do you think that process is going to work what I
Mean by that is we’re going to win the league under r i I believe so in in a few years definitely I think you’re you’re a few years how many more years already had four bro what we going to have another four with him so can I ask
Mo salad a question to to okay Mo salad which is what argument here do you believe there is a manager out there that will come to Arsenal and win the league before Etta against pep against klopp against this man City team against Liverpool do you believe if they hire a different
Manager would he will have a higher probability of winning the league than artetta or sooner that’s the question that nor side always ask me by the way he always ask me that question you guys think are Elite cuz I don’t I’m asking you do you believe someone out there if
You can bring Luciano spetti from from Italy okay cool if you can get Javi Alonzo from so there are play there are people that can come to Arsenal and win the league because again as I have said multiple times I don’t think arteta is the finished article yet and I think
He’s too I think at this present moment in time he’s too hardheaded to learn from his mistakes there are also other young managers like Javi Alonzo but I’m sure if Javi Alonzo sees something’s not working he will change it he will not persist but there’s certain managers
That need to learn in the hard way and and that’s my so why are you telling Arsenal fans to keep artetta then I’m not getting Aral Haven been 25 years they they have they’re in no position to demand trophies now it’s a process except that it’s a process that’s my
Thing no but you just said that when is it okay for us then bro to demand for I trophy I think I think in about a year or two if if you’re still not winning and and you’ve cuz as again I feel like I feel like Brendan’s going around in circles and contradicting
Himself because you’re saying there’s there’s holes in the squad this squad is not good enough but under the same breath you’re saying yeah but arteta is not good enough too fix the holes in the fix the holes you have in your squad first doesn’t win then fair enough I can
Tear I can tear that point apart straight away who signed all these players who sign these players yeah exactly all of them it’s not it’s not like these are especially not a young manager my point being right my point being is we had a offer on the table from Crystal
Palace for Eddie and Kea he chose oh my God how everything I’ve said your argument is Eddie and ktia I don’t I don’t understand no no no listen and I’ll explain we had an offer on the table for Eddie and ker from Crystal Palace right he decided rather than
Taking the 253 million pound to give him a new 100 Grand week contract right we had the option of letting ree Nelson go rather than letting him go we decided to give him a 100 Grand week contract we decided to spend million pound on Kai hav so what I’m saying is what I’m
Saying is we still have holes in the squad correct and yes we need to address them correct but why do we have these holes in the squad in the first place because the manager made them the manager put them there by not addressing situations that he should have addressed
He kept hold of players that are simply not good enough or signed players that are simply not good enough that’s why we have holes in the no no one gets every single decision correct let alone coing job but let’s go through the on if you
Want to look at all the things he’s got correct they definitely outweigh all the things that he’s done incorrect bro Arsenal arsenal were out of Champions League football for eight years I don’t think you understand you’re in no position currently to be demanding Premier Leagues and champions leagues
You’re not that’s true okay let’s go let’s go through let’s go through the ones that he’s got correct or correct let’s let’s go through it because I think it CBA Gabrielle Martinelli alard Thomas party I mean your entire Squad your entire some of those some of those
Weren’t even signed by Arta by the way thetha listen he he he deserves credit for some of them but have you seen some of the ones we bought oh my God I actually debated that guys I actually let me ask you just just real last point last point last Point Mo just
To emphasize on the point that I’m making about the mistakes that he’s made right since michar Tera has been Arsenal manager he’s brought in six different goalkeepers not a single one of them are better than Emmy Martinez yes he’s brought in six uh David reyer um Aon ramale roners um Matt
Turner one from Brighton Matt Ryan Matt Ryan um had Leno and Leno there you go there’s six goalkeepers there six goalkeepers I don’t know how much that cost us in or whatever can I put something what’s the question what’s the question what question the question let me something out you let me
Put something out Jurgen Club isn’t actually great in finding good players Club develops players artetta develops some players like I’m not defending artetta I actually think if Arsenal won a title today well logically you should sack him get Zab Alonzo or get Simone for example or get someone who can flick somebody
Car someone with that name right carelot isn’t great in the league but but yes I get what you’re saying someone with more experience to play The League yes carelot hasn’t won enough leagues actually during his time but yes but I get the point is without mentioning the
Name get someone says I win that’s all I care about yeah get get somebody that will the moment doesn’t right so this is what I’m saying when like and when muhamed said oh yeah Arsenal can’t win the league what I agree I don’t think Arsenal will win the league my opinion
Is that man city will win this league why do I think that because I don’t have the faith in the manager bro so if I have four years and 650 million spent and then people go yeah but it’s a process down okay when is it acceptable
For me to go I think we’re ready then now four years 2 years 5 years 12 years seven years nobody can tell me so it just goes on and on and on and you just keep spending do you agree do you agree that this is your first season where you
Were expecting to challenge for a title uh this is the first season I’ve expected to challenge for a title probably since arson Wenger I would say yeah exactly so if he doesn’t I would expect to in that long in that amount of time Christ I’s gone wrong if we have’t
In that amount of time Jesus Christ point is if this is the first season under artetta we won’t even talk about since Arsen Winger if this is the first season under artetta that you’ve that you were hoping and expecting to challenge for a title if that doesn’t
Happen is it right to sack him after that one season don’t you think it would make sense for you to okay you know what now we’re we’re challenging now challenge once or twice more and then and then if you don’t win it you start thinking okay I’m not saying five there
Context there’s context for that right so for me we get to the end of this season let’s just say there’s going to be a few scenarios that happen right Arsenal are going to uh finish four in the top four and they’re going to go out to let’s say Porto in the Champions
League it’s been as shambles we’re out of both domestic cups it’s been a pleasure mate but see you later you’re gone right that’s number one the second one is that we don’t win anything but we get to a Champions League final we get knocked out to round Madrid which is no
Shame by the way because they’re the absolute Kings of Europe and we take Man City to the last game of the season and they nip it to by a point you might have justifiable reasons as to why you think Bloody L man yeah we haven’t won
Anything but how Bloody close to we get maybe with a little bit more he might be there or thereabouts but if we the other option is we win and everyone’s like wow it’s worked and the process is done which one of those three do you actually think is more realistic this season
Because I think it’s the first one I said to you I really do I agree with you I think if that’s the case bro and I hope it ain’t I hope I hope we’re doing that with both the trophies we’re in at the end of the
Season right but the way I see it personally is I just don’t feel like we can just go you know what we’re out of everything again we didn’t win anything we’re back in the top four which was when Wenger got us there 20 years in a
Row we’re back to 2016 but we’ll just give him another year and 200 million pounds we’ve spent more money than everybody other than Man United Chelsea and PSG and we’re in the and we’re nowhere near so what do we spend more money just let me one one sentence one sentence one sentence 10
Words okay um obviously all of this is just our opinions right I one I 100% think even if you don’t win anything and you finish in the top four they give arteta at least one more year and I think that’s what’s actually going to happen actually agree
IE why I’m going for the ownership and I think and I think that is but but but my point is I think that is reasonable to give him at least one more year if if we’re having this conversation next year I would be with you guys and say sack
Him and he hasn’t developed enough but I’m just saying this is your first season where you expected to challenge give him one more year to challenge and if he doesn’t then fair enough no that’s that’s my point because I’m I’m I’m on the optimistic side of things just sorry
Sad sad sad sorry I need to do the super chat uh uh kakos is saying Stiller panel keep up the grind more thank you so much guys almost 600 people here thank you so much for being here so hit that like button get us to 300 likes simple for
This brilliant panel staying late late here to give you the entertainment people so at least like the freaking video people Roma sack Jose and he won them AO Trophy and got them to three different finals while arteta has won one trophy out of 16 and people jump to
His defense Absolut but SM that is CL spot on mate spot on I mean you know how bad Roma are though let’s not let’s not use Roma as the as the barometer can I uh can I say something look Mourinho actually won him a trophy that’s man uh listen would ancelotti win the
Title with 600 million Squad he might he might listen jur a lot of money and he won one title in the Premier League because he’s going against but I’m with with with actually DTS and I disagree with you Mo be honest regression for me after spending money means sacking
Regression means sacking if Arsenal finish six seven points and by game week 34 35 Arsenal are out of the title race and they go out to a Porto or they go out in the quarterfinal to whatever team that is not better than them he should get sacked quarterfinal the champions
League for Arsenal isn’t good enough unless they go out to Real Madrid in a small details even if they play Real Madrid and get humiliated against Real Madrid he should get sacked unless he goes to the last game of the season because I have the same thing for ten
Hog for klopp your clubs need progression if you don’t progress that means you regress that means yeah another chance what if he regresses more that means you actually going to dismantle the whole Foundation he built maybe that Foundation needs someone else now to build on it if he regresses one
More year Mo imagine if you give him another year by being top four and he regress more you’re done the club has to rebuild Saka will leave because Real Madrid will come knocking odard might leave Saliba might leave because we have been here long enough now you’re giving
Us a new manager after we failed under this manager for three four years no man I want I want to you know what that reminds do you know what that scenario reminds me of Mo it reminds me of a few players that left their names were called CES fabrigas Alexis Sanchez Robin
Van Percy samian nazri Gail kichi barari sna Colo Tor and Emanuel ad boor in a youth project which was youth projects 1.0 and 2.0 and if Saka CRA and Martin Nei leave it will be youth project 3.0 that’s failed how about just go and get a win now manager and win sank instead
Of doing processes yeah that’s the way I see it if they regress Mo salad if they regress there is no bro if you are at your job and you reach the point that if you regress after giving the opportunity it’s done it’s over for you move on
Here’s the thing though bro I’m I’m not agree I’m not disagreeing with with you guys right I I I agree with Dan but Dan the point I’m trying to make is even if you get the best manager available right now there’s there’s still glaring issues
In your squad right you feel me so so there’s which which one’s easier to fix the glaring issues or change the manager as well as fix the glaring issues when you know the manager is a risk in itself you’d rather keep the manager try and fix the glaring issues rather keep the
Manager if I have faith he’s gonna fix the glaring issues but he isn’t fixing the GL ask this question can I can I just can I just say can I just say one thing can I just say one thing St coming he wanted to say because just just quickly because
Listen this season we have last season hats off hats off yeah I I was so happy because he actually found a system that worked a system where he was able to utilize and get goals everybody on the pitch scored goals apart from obviously the goalkeeper everybody on
The pitch scored goals he had goals coming out of everywhere okay spread them across the pitch he found a system that worked now yes Granite Jaca wanted to leave okay that’s fine Granite Jaa leaves why would you bring somebody that is not GNA work to that system that you
Built the system that worked why would you bring somebody that is completely different and does not fit into that system and for that that’s why he’s going to die on this sword If he if he brings Kai havitz in this is why Kai havitz is one of the main things that is
A Focus right now because he took a risk with that signing if something’s working for you why would you go why would you completely change and do a 18 and go the other way do you know what I mean and and the thing is this is this is why
Obviously I’m not a tet out yet but I’m I’m similar to to what you said where I’m giving him until the end of the season I’m Joe man I’m laughing at Joe I’m giving I’m giving him to the I’m I’m giving him to the end of the season and
If we don’t if we for instance there’s still context to it big up Jo love that is funny there’s still there’s still context to it man if you if you like you said if you get to a semi-final or a final and then you end
Up taking them to the end of the day uh till the end of the um the last day in the league I can I can make I can give him another season but if you if you end up being in top if you end up being in
Top four bro it’s it’s not going to work that’s regression from last season that’s regressing you finished second last season and now you’re saying you’re talking about third or fourth it can’t it can’t happen you know I mean we wait we we waited we wait years completely if
If if the TR no no if that happened if that happens then trory is this bro yeah the trajectory is you finishing outside the trajectory isn’t you finishing second by the way I don’t can I just say one thing I don’t agree disagree with you guys by the way I’m just trying to
See I’m just trying to give you for like an outside’s perspective you I’m trying to say I’m just trying to give you perspective you’re doing a mo you’re doing a devil’s advocate I’m not I’m not even trying toil was advoc I’m just the thing is I I actually quite like artetta
To be a great manager one day I just don’t and I’ve made that very very clear I don’t think he’s that now so when Lee gner says um there are managers like like an experienced good manager I I hear that I don’t think arteta is there
He’s not con let me ask you let me ask these guys yes they they give you a better chance to win now 100% I’m just I’m just saying there’s there’s still holes to fix in your squad okay can I answer this quickly Brandon can I answer
This in a short sentence if you would have hired someone else you would not have developed Saka martinell and these guys they would have demanded they would have demanded ready now players that’s the problem and I think that’s what the board win too I agree or disagree with
It I agree okay let me just I agree or disagree with it it’s completely different I’m not an Arsenal fan right it’s Arsenal fans on the board do you guys agree with a Youth System project or you guys want to be the Mourinho the peps like we need the ready made now
Because look at your squad with a manager like and the with the top manager get odard who failed at Real Madrid and try to develop him would the manager agree to develop William salba or get Ben White and completely change the way he plays and put him at right
Back no a manager would have said no no I want would he get ramal from a relegated Bournemouth and say yes I’m developing this I think this is when we that’s great and I agree but hasn’t want us anything so exactly so let me ask this but Dan do
You hear where I’m coming from when I say they’re on the same trajectory with each other like it makes it makes sense for him to be the manager of Arsenal because he’s a developing young manager maybe maybe what you’re saying is the squad has outgrown arteta if
You’re saying that then fair enough what I’m yeah if you’re saying is now good enough to win now maybe artetta hasn’t kept up with the squad then I can understand that let me ask you this let me ask you this be honest now as well be honest
Right yeah well either of you either of you right all right let’s say for example you just said that we’ve still got holes in this team that need fixing um you know get here again no no no no no no I’m not let me let me ask this let me
Ask you this if if Arsenal sacked Michela right now and brought in Carlo angelotti do you think Arsenal could win the League this season no absolutely not why there’s no way because car Carlo angelotti has historically been has historically been poor at winning leagues everywhere he’s okay
Historically no no no no okay so I get I get Brendan’s he’s not talking about ancelotti he means a different manager like someone who’s more proven winner if you bring in Guardiola cool if you bring in joggen club okay cool not they’re not available it’s impossible there’s no
Manager you can bring in right now that will win you a premier league right now that isn’t named Carlo ancelotti Pep Guardiola maybe Simone enagi maybe Luciano spel available you can get no I’m not say this is this my point every manager is a project manager now I’m not saying
Availability I’m not I’m not basing this off availability right I’m basing this off of why we having this argument who you second four no you said is it not better for Arsenal to fix the holes in the squad first before sacking our tetta and my point is is we’ve still got holes
Correct but is this squad good enough with a better manager to go and win the league now so if we got a Simeone and sacked ala right now and went and got Simeone is this squad good enough to go and win the league with possible I don’t think so I I don’t
Think I don’t think there’s any version of Arsenal that are better than Man City and will beat Man City to a premier league title no matter who the manager is unless you get Pep Guardiola from Man City to Arsenal and they have someone else so if we if we would have swapped
Managers last year with Arsenal won the league definitely with who with pep guarda if we had Pep Guardiola we would have won the league yeah yeah but that’s that’s 100% 100 59% yeah so there we go for me no but you’re using but but but you’re using the like the the ultimate Difference
Maker I think I think that’s why I’ve so that’s why I’ve gone there if you let me say the next bit so how did Conte beat pep then they were both in their first season and Conte just got a better of him yeah but took Chelsea from 10th to
Win in the league yeah but then but then he but then he also got in goo kante and Chelsea Chelsea finished in 10th at the time ex con might come to Arenal and get a go kante and we go winse finish in 10th still had Asen Hazard that was injured for an entire
Year um dieg Costa decided not to play football C fabrigas and you know what I’m trying to say like Chelsea every time finished 10th of course how do you how do you expect to beat Manchester City and Pep Guardiola to a title by cop by using a managers copying his homework basically
Liverpool don’t play the same as as Man City and Liverpool when con when Conte won the league they didn’t play the same as Manchester City I don’t see how manager like basically who is basically that kid in the class in in the test next to Pep Guardiola just copying his
Homework and doing the same thing oh you played with inverted fullbacks we’re going to do that but we’re going to do it worse you know but that’s basically what he’s doing he’s copying Pep Guardiola right how do you expect to beat get it I’m just trying to give you
Other like there’s no manager that comes in now and beats Man City that’s just the truth of it the only the only way you beat Man City now is if you get Pep Guardiola and you put him in Aral and you give them another manager that’s the
That’s the only way yeah but my point the point that I’m making though is you’re telling us that we need to keep hold of oura and maybe give I’m not telling you anything I’m telling you what I think yeah what you think is we should keep hold of oura and keep him
For another year or two and if he isn’t W if he hasn’t won anything within you know the next year or two then you sack him why are you going to keep a manager who can’t who simply can’t win a league against somebody who is basically to be
Compe for a league this I mean bro you you you obviously have your mind you just said we cannot simply win a league against Pep Guardiola I agree with you no one I agree with you how can you beat how can you beat Pep Guardiola to a league when
You’re basically copying his his whole philosophy he’s not even he’s not even copied it’s basically like they’re both sitting in at the same class and Arta copying Pep’s maths homework for an English test that’s what it is cuz he ain’t getting it right that’s let let me
Tell you that now he ain’t copying Pep Guardiola very well that’s what I will say listen I walked out of hyri in 200 in 2000 and I was absolutely crying but I never said man united are going to win the league this won the treble let’s
Give up now boys let’s hope we get second yeah I ain’t going to do it now they’ll never ever ever ever come second and go progress unbelievable this guy is a genius second place oh didn’t expect to get that that is unbelievable come on man like let’s be real like let’s just
Be real for me it is no chance of winning the league in my opinion so I’m not sitting here demanding that we do it this year under this manager because I have no faith that will do it why though that’s the question why has Dan got no
Faith that Mich LTE will do it because I don’t think he’s the right guy and that’s all it is and listen Brandon Brandon actually said about Brendan Rogers I didn’t think that was a crazy statement personally I feel personally it might be he’s set the foundations he’s given somebody else a great chance
But maybe we need a Jurgen klopp type manager to come in and get across the line like Liverpool needed maybe that is the way it is but right now we’ll see wait wait wa I want to respond to so so you saying then that you agreed with the
Hiring of Etta and this project you just think that now is the right time to get a new manager but you agree with hiring him and this huge project and what happened I’m I’m really clarifying because he said he developed the players and and got them where they are now and
All the stuff or no no I never wanted the I never wanted the number youth project man I never wanted our wanted readymade players yeah I always wanted I thought look man listen listen 20 years of a title I don’t want any think do you think any of those managers would have
Come to you knowing that you need to get rid of like knowing it’s a project like any of these top managers do you reckon they would have come and taken on the project that artetta took on because you have to get rid of all of these players
Build entire don’t which is why I think there’s an ownership problem and I’ve said that from the start there’s an ownership problem in my opinion that is more than happy to throw as as much money as you want at it oh they spend money you must love them no because look
At what they’re spending it on and look at who they’re giving the money to I don’t trust edu and Arta to build a title winning charge no man not at all so listen I I I feel personally if it doesn’t work this year there’s something there’s something you said there’s
Something you said which I do agree with to to a certain extent which is artetta has got you to a certain point he’s helped develop all of these young players but maybe he’s not the one to get you over the top I can’t even disagree with that because he I mean
That’s a fair point we’ll find out this year we’ll find out that’s that’s a fair point if if you’re saying Arsenal have outgrown pep gu I mean Mikel Aletta then I can’t disagree with that and you you have a valid point but my thing is possibly Arsenal I mean Arsenal are
Definitely not good enough to win it now just shut up sorry but I get I get what more saying like if if Arsenal went on this project arteta is the right man he was at that time he was the right man Saka Martinelli odard Sala Ben White whatever
You did ramsdale it was artetta do you think another man do you guys believe that another manager another top manager with experience would have taken these young players waited and worked with them and developed them until he got you where you were last year and he you guys
Realize and I’m not defending arteta to win you the title because I actually don’t know if arteta will win you the start this year or next year or in five years because I see no signs of that I saw it last year for half a season but
The point is you guys are sitting in the book in the books third in the Champions League or fourth it’s kind of strange that Mel arteta is the one who did that do you believe anyone did you sign Superstar someone tell me what superstar did com kill me bro yeah yeah superar
You guys sign so you telling us that we’ve got to credit Mikel Arta for the job that he’s done with these players 100% I I I I’ll credit him for what he’s built yes I’ll credit him for what he’s built but to think that I’m going to sit
Here and praise him for finishing eighth two seasons in a row for not winning anything in the four years that he’s been in charge apart from an FA Cup which he won with a completely different Squad by the way yeah oh [ __ ] yes think
I’m G to sit here and do all of that you’re having a laugh mode I’m not yes you are where where you were I’m sorry where you were in a right listen he got us in a title race last season the expectation from every Arsenal fan this
Season was to win a trophy that thing because you literally said at the start you literally said at the start of the right and people genuinely think that we’re going to go and win the Champions League or the league when we can’t even win a carabel cup or an fa [ __ ] cup
Let’s be real I say progress it’s up to you what you want I believe that how you interpret it how do you interpret the project did a terrible anybody here that tell me arteta did a terrible job who made Saka 100 million pound player who made Saka on the radar of Real Madrid
Who made Martinelli last year do that who made ODOT compared to Kevin De brona who made Saliba this and that you know the fact that was what all Arsenal fans were saying that is not facts now that just said was fact that’s what I’m saying four years with the kids
He made them this is he the right man to win the title he might not yeah that’s what I’m saying people want to discredit his work that’s up to you that’s what I’m saying if if what Dan said I agree with you you appreciate him for for
Getting you this far and helping develop these players to to to create this squad correct but if you’re saying he’s not the one to to go over the top and win you the league I can agree with that I I’ll hold my hands up if that’s what you believe fair enough I
I’ve always said I don’t believe he’s good enough to get us across the landine and win us a title if I’m wrong I’ll say wow I was wrong and guess what I’m happy because I’ve one sank and that’s all I want man I want trophies so when he’s
Throwing him in the bin every season and going out at carabel cups to West Ham like this season and we going out to Liverpool mad for me so this season we’re gonna win nothing let’s just have it right we are winning nothing this season we a winning the league we
Definitely a win the Champions League so let’s be fair pression so where is the progression and now I’ve said there’s context if you go get a nearly and you be a nearly Leo disagree and say get rid of him whatever that’s calm there’ll be justification to do both 100% have a
Debate about it but for me if you’re going out to a Porto and you’re getting top four get out man it’s done yeah welcomely I don’t know big up for letting me on as well big up to everyone locked in make sure you Pam the like button this I’ve it’s literally half one
In the morning I’ve just watched the deadest football match in the world yeah but um I just want to read Sayan c yeah I just want to read this so bear with me and thank you Mo big up the panel big up the chat five League finishes before
Mikel because he’s been here fifth season now yeah we finished fifth sixth fifth second third current league finishes under Miguel eighth eighth fifth second and the current season he inherited a mess well he didn’t did he really because we finished fifth six fifth second third quite a mess and that
Was Wenger yeah for two of them um fifth and sixth yeah the sixth and the fifth right in that season where he finished sixth Wenger we got to a League Cup Final I was there Aguero dink the goalkeeper cheers mate well done mustafi and we finished fifth yeah the season
Before that the only two seasons outside Champions League so all this waffling about oh he’s got you back in the Champions League we’ve never won it in 20 attempts right anyway let’s carry on uh trophies won five seasons before Mikel two fa cups trophies won Under Mel
One FA cup plus the rest of this season European record Five Seasons before Mel Europa League final Europa League semi three round of 16s in the Champions League European record under Mikel we’re in the round of 16 of the Champions League round of 32 lost to sporting
Didn’t qualify Us lost the Europa League semi to our former manager in Via which by the way I have more subscribers on my channel than I have population and it was their first ever trophy before that Randa 16 Europa League lost to Olympia acos with a team that he inherited from
Unai Emy that had already nearly qualified or pretty much qualified from the group there are thereabouts League cups Five Seasons before Mel fourth round quarterfinal final quarterfinal fourth round League Cup under Mel fourth round third round semi quarter FA Cup Five Seasons before Mel fourth round third round armpits sixth round armpits
FA Cup under Mel armpits with a toxic Squad inherited fourth round third round fourth round third round Community Shield Five Seasons before Mikel dos Community Shield under Mel dos won by default because man city did a treble so we qualified money spent Rose transfer marked big up them Five Seasons before
Mel 488 million money spent under Mel gross 688 million where’s the progress we’ve gone back to less than where we was that was deemed not good enough to the point where the likes of me brand and Dan were marching down the hornsey road to get arson Wenger out of our
Football club yeah and not only that I heard goldbridge waffling the other day oh this is the best Arsenal team in a decade Co 2014 FA Cup win 2015 FA Cup win 2016 title race Leicester won it 2017 FA Cup win 2018 Europa League semi-final lost to at L battered them
Should have been six at home me and troops were crying away Diego Costa and a League Cup Final 2019 Europa League final what’s this guy done to Warrant all of this love and agulation he spent literally about 200 million quid in 4 and a half years less
Than Wenger did in 20 where’s I don’t get it all right big up for joining okay big up for joining guys hit that like button thank you for joining to the argument D pots has to go big up Dan 12 man podcast in the description people I
Want them to text me and tell me he got 200 to 300 subscribers like his last video or last 10 to help the guy so please do brilliant brilliant content daily from DTS absolutely fantastic content guys please go and subscribe to his channel absolutely brilliant really to you D
Pleas BR and big up big up Lee big up Brandon big up smash like man smash the like subscribe and love people cheers moig up bro def keep in touch and so just to answer Lee the difference Lee is that Etta took a squad got rid of whatever he
Was there right just just got rid of it right uh and at the end you got youngsters that’s a club’s Choice that’s not the fans Choice the club’s Choice instead of buying readymade players is to develop a you to develop a you Squad they said they thought that this is the
Best movement for the club so it’s not arteta’s fault as Mo said before it was a young manager coming under Pep Guardiola is he the one to win titles he might not at that time and he might not be now but he got young guys young players developed them to be stars or
Superstars or whatever people want to call them world class or whatever but you know what I’m talking about some of them scored 15 goals some of them on the Raiders of the top top club some of them were called to be the Brazilian national squad so he’s the one who did this yes
He finished e e what fifth and then second but to be honest without him you would not have had the squad you would have hired a Simone and he would have said yes I need a readymade player now I need a player that is ready now I want
To sign a player that won this and won that none of the players you have won anything our best goalkeeper yeah plays for Aston Villa he’s replaced him with who five six goalkeepers that are not good enough our best left back plays for real SOI dad right and let’s just go
Down this route as well K wasn’t good enough for Arenal K is definitely good enough and Kieran is one of the most decorated players we have I’ll be honest I’ll be honest K Kieran Ty is is levels above zenchenko in my opinion he he was Mo Mo you know where the confusion is
You know where the confusion is I think zinchenko is a PO the confus second one second yeah yeah go ahead go ahead on on the zenchenko thing I feel like him coming into Midfield doing the inverted [ __ ] covers up how how how [ __ ] he is like defensively I
Feel like he very very Alexander Arnold but Absolut get out of here here’s the deal here’s the deal here’s the deal with you Mel artetta coming from a of Pep Guardiola he came in that’s all he knew two years training under Pep Guardiola he came in he wanted a left
Back that doesn’t go up and down the wing he wants a left back to invert where does he turn he gets zenko who is a good player for Man City but not a regular starter he’s a number 10 he was signed from Wing he is a left midfielder I he’s
Number 10 his whole career has been number 10 can I just dispel this my that Kieran is always injury prone as well there it’s a carnivore in the chat now I don’t want to take over the whole show yeah it’s not the league on the show
Right but the amount of BS I hear yeah is staggering oh he’s always injured well he’s six months younger than zenchenko and played 50 games more than him right factually correct information not incorrect Twitter rumors yeah Kiran Tini has factually missed two games less yeah than zinenko in their careers 108
Games for teny missed 110 Kieran tin is six months younger and played 50 games for club and Country more factual information again because we only did in facts yeah not fairy tale and not only that cenko has had double the amount of injuries right now let’s go back very quickly yeah when this
Manager got to this club he inherited Emmy martinz yeah we still ain’t signed a goalkeeper better he inherited CBA deemed him not good enough for two or three years loaned him out when he was playing kazanc mustafi Callum Chambers yeah Rob holding yeah David Louise over
This guy who was out on loan twice three times a lady yeah he then inherited sacka who unry was having baling out a left wing back and left back and to dispel another myth he also inherited Martin Elli who in his first 10 games for or 12 games for Arsenal scored 10
Goals playing as a striker yeah scoring goals left right and Center bangers headers here who was training before we signed him whilst playing for a fourth division Brazilian team with the Brazil National Team this guy has killed that guy’s career because that guy has not progressed forget last season with his
15 goals yeah that guy has gone backwards he was a baller he now aim Bou Saka has regressed that guy’s given up he has been trash for nearly a year since March last year and I heard you guys saying oh but saliva got injured that’s why we lost a tail no it weren’t
Saaka was trash for the last 10 games was I said I specifically said CBA being injured is not a valid excuse for why Arsenal didn’t win the league was sacka was [ __ ] and management wasn’t good enough that’s players inherited me oil he inherited Mees Ozil yeah the only
Reason we got rid of him and I don’t rate oo on that level like at Madrid only reason we got rid of him is because of the whole China thing yeah with the or go Muslim and all that yeah right that’s the only reason we got rid of
That guy right he also inherited aubameyang and lacazette and Pepe yeah have we replaced aubameyang lacazette and pepe tell me where yeah he inherited all of this and then done another 600 mil and we’re worse off come on man what we doing here see see that’s
That’s not true because well it is it’s factual information it’s not because all of the things all of the things that you said earlier when you were listing all of the all of your league places before arteta and everywhere you got into the cup and stuff at none at no point were
You guys challenging for a league title and a legitimate Premier League Contender you’ve gone from from a middle of the- pack team a team that’s in and around the top four a team that’s in and around the cup to a team now who is seen as a legitimate Premier League Contender
And that’s the pr we’re talking about about progress very long time progress is a load of rubbish right because the factual information is because when you were listing all you yeah when when I listed everything you listed fifth sixth whatever yes okay cool I also listed two
Trophies and I listed one for Mikel in the Five Seasons before and the Five Seasons under but at the same time won two and under Mel won that’s that fair enough progress then is it you’ve not won the trophies but in in terms of how
Good you are as a team Arsenal are now a premier league contending team you weren’t that before Etta yes yes when artetta first came you finished eighth twice but that was the process of a young Squad you are trying to you’re trying to build something wasn’t a young
Squ that’s not he didn’t in a young Squad but he built a young Squad that’s what I’m saying by removing the older part that’s exactly he was he was tasked with breaking down what was there that was what the task was when he came to Arsenal to build a young Squad a new
Refreshing Squad so yes there was a dip at first but then the progress that we’re talking about is progress from mid to a team that is now supposed to he took us to Mid bro he took us to Mid were never mid the lowest finish we had
Was six you listed where you were finishing the lowest was sixth how many times did he finish eighth yeah and this other myth we were in a relegation battle is another myth yeah because we were actually eighth when unai emry got sacked yeah and he finished eighth yeah
After taking that team over no but the progress I’m talking about there was definitely a dip when he first got there but that’s because that was the initial stages of the rebuild but but the final the final place where Arsenal now is a premier league contending team whether
You win it or not is a is a completely different conversation but the point that we’re try or that I’m trying to make is you went from a team that was never competing for the Premier League you haven’t competed for Premier League since 2009 when you had fabrigas Premier
League in 2016 when Leicester won it and we were top of the league way the only team to beat fa Point what team do you support bro I’m a Napoli fan Napoli do you support any Premier League team um not really no okay cool right so let me say this then
Yeah right and listen I rate all of you guys for being on it and thank you for having me on right and it’s not the league on a show but you’ve invited me on so we’re just going to deal with facts and not fairy tale there is no
Progress in football the only progress you get in football is winning Trophies the aim of Elite Sport don’t need any waffling any opinions or anything other yeah because there’s a predefined metric for success in football yeah trophies you either win one or you lose that’s it
Right and at the end of the season whether you finish eighth fifth or second is irrelevant because at the end of that season it refreshes and you will go again the only difference is the Premier League spreadsheet yeah which it is and the pr and the dramatization from
The English media the British media of dramatized they biged up that Spurs man united or man united Spurs game is a big game why one’s Fifth and one’s ninth what are you waffling about yeah what are you waffling yeah at the end of the day you don’t progress unless you win
The aim of the game is to win right we knock down a stadium that I’ve been to many many times to go and win and compete against the best in Europe so far we ain’t done that now we’ve hired a rookie not being good to just winning trophies there’s there’s a process there
And explain what can you tell me what process means because nobody can ever explain this to me and when what is the process how long does it last and what’s the end gain of that process and how long does it take to achieve the process finale end the
End game is for you lot to win the Premier League can artetta win you that Premier League I don’t know I’ve said that multiple times can he be the one to get you over the edge absolutely not but he has definitely contributed to your progress in that process he’s helped you
Get from point A and you’re closer to point B which is winning Premier League than you were when he came and that’s a fact I’m gonna can I explain what our press can I explain what our progress is Man City 2009 they won the league once and then they won the league another
Time and then they won the league a third time right and now comes Pep Guardiola right and this comes the domination everything that happened before that yes they W in the middle it’s it leads to pep gordola being accepting a job at Man City knowing that
There is a structure there is money of course and now I can dominate The League that’s called progress for Etta it’s as simple as that he demolished the home started from the ground built the building up is he the one to finish it is he the one to put the decoration in
For the people to live in I don’t don’t know that I saw the signs last year when he built a very very good team is he learning on the job and I asked this question to every Arsenal fan it’s it we whether you believe Arsenal are a guinea
Pck club that means he can learn on the job until you reach a level where he can win with you or you want the manager that will take this squad now and win title at a one or two pieces this is the the title now it’s up to you to believe
That it’s not up to like some Arsenal fans are saying we want Alex Ferguson yeah now you said Lee on your show that you thought artetta isn’t the guy from day one I saw the video from 2009 so that’s your belief but some other fans believe otherwise some other F believe that this
Guy might be the guy to take this Bas on the progress okay based on him taking them demolishing the home getting rid of the older players not hiring Superstars and getting these players to a point where a lot do you agree that Saka might go to Real Madrid
If you don’t win a league title or something never in a million years will Real Madrid won him because miles clear Real Madrid will never sign a player like the Kio Saka because Real Madrid deal with winners mate yeah right oh my God yeah they deal with winners Real Madrid yeah their
President after Vinnie scored a hattrick in the final went on camera afterwards in an interview and said I spoke to Vinnie a second ago and I told him three in a final ain’t good enough he need to or more yeah bigger fish to fry at Arsenal though yeah their youth project
By the way their youth that’s factual information he actually said that their youth project by the way consists of bellinham Chua manyi Vinnie Rodrigo valverdi Milow Frank Garcia meny yeah many many more come think you can the new left back guy yeah and this is what I’m saying but I ain’t hearing
Them pedal out it’s a youth project it’s a youth project yeah I’m not hearing an chelotti coming out or fans of Real Madrid coming out saying but he hasn’t got his whole Squad he needs to spend more money he needs time yeah why because the standards have been set yeah
And they’ve been set in stone 0 years and if they if the president don’t do it the fans hold him I watch Real Madrid every week I watched that League yeah they played real soad a couple of weeks ago soad were dominating them one1 yeah couldn’t get the ball couldn’t get the
Ball back their fans had the white hankies and booing them bro for two minutes finally they got the ball back they scored the winner hosel yeah I see him booed off against New Yorker at half time the other night they halim what was the end result one but you AR in Real
Madrid Le your Club isn’t Real Madrid okay that’s cool and I hear both of you saying that and I hear this every day on the internet you’re not Real Madrid you’ll never be Real Madrid that’s great we never will be Real Madrid but how does that you can can how does that stop
The standards yeah of Real Madrid being at standards those standards have been brought about by winning four Champions Leagues I mean they’ve they’ve been a great team for as long as we can remember Arsenal have never been on that level that’s where those standards come
From you never you want your team to be like this leag that’s what you want you want your team to be Real Madrid you want your team to be like City now right that’s what you want right I know that’s what that’s what you want Your Arsenal
But that’s what we’re saying it might be the process on the way to be there you don’t believe that because you don’t believe in that man manager right you don’t from day one can I just add right because I gotta go right yeah yeah and
We have to yes Mo said that our Teta has made us legitimate title challenges right based on based on what what we did last season coming coming into you even said it bro I don’t understand why you’re changing now you even said at the start of this that at the start of the
Year the goal for Arsenal was to compete for a premier league you said that you said there was even you even said there was a group of Arsenal fans that thought you could win the league and that you were favorites so that’s before or haven’t been for a very
Long time I said I said all Arsenal fans expected to compete for a league title again exact and win a trophy because we competed for a league title last season right okay now the way manager did you compete for a premier league Trophy last year and under manager we supposed to
Compete for a premier league TR the way the season is panning out it’s looking like last season was an anomaly and in the actual fact I Tech I actually believe that Arta isn’t hasn’t made as legitimate title challenges at all he’s actually just taken us back to where we
Were under Aron Wenger qualifying for top four every single season but you L you thought you were a title Contender which is he has he taken you back to a top four team or are you or were you title contenders at the start of the Season you can’t pick and choose
What are you talking about what you were you were you title challenges at the start of the Season well we can I ask a question Brandon every Brandon no we were top four contenders at the start of the Season Lee that’s your opinion opinion your opinion that’s not the
Other I can say that that we were we were you’re missing last seon B based on the system that he built last season and and it was it was a system that worked to to a degree until the end of the season when eventually it all fell apart but the
System worked to a degree and the expectation this season was to challenge for the title yeah it was to try and go and win the title so the fact the fact that he hasn’t won a title or he’s not going to win the title listen at the
Moment this is this is all Dreamland stuff he’s not winning hold on hold on if he does it it’s gonna be it’s going to be something great that’s what I was saying no mo the expectation was to win the league title based off of what we did last season I
Weren’t expecting I weren’t expecting him to go out and splash 65 million on the the German giraffe I weren’t expecting him to to sign Eddie and Kier and bledy REE Nelson up to new contracts I weren’t expecting all of that back my problem with the errors which has led us
To be where we are right now we are a top four club right I guarantee you I guarantee you right now if he gets top four in Champions League this season the club is gonna give him more time all he will be given more time I ask question be given more time I
Ians you finish troph Aral football club it doesn’t matter about winning trophies as long as we co up qualify for Champions League I don’t agree with that ARS veger at Arsenal for so long y y Lee I will tell you something though and and I will I will make this point if he
Doesn’t win it this year and next year you guys start off the way you are the pressure will M and even the guys that you you guys call are tetas sexuals even they will be off this boat like anyone 100% so I feel like off and and I said
This at the start of the show as well this season if he even if he doesn’t win anything they won’t fire him but next year the pressure is 100% on so you guys will get what you want you feel me but sorry to cut you off as well yeah
Because sorry what’s your name my friend mamed Mohammed no the the guy sorry my bad you wanted to speak and and Brandon that’s a bounce go say what you want to say my friend no no no I was I was just saying basically listen he he built a project which semi worked and
Managed to get us to a point where we could actually compete and for a lot of the Season we were competing we were ahead of Man City and we were playing at a high level now for him that system that he built all you had to do yes you lost granty
Shaka you had to keep the same players or keep the same kind of players in that system and improve on it when you when you have a season like that the only way you can improve from that position is to go out and buy worldclass players yeah
You’ve you have you have then evolved because I can no hold on because yes yes they yes they did yes they did 100% but it comes a time where you yes I think he progressed us yes I think he progressed us to a to a degree I was our
Teta out before when the club told us [ __ ] you lot we’re signing him to a brand new contract when everybody was our a lot of us were our Teta out and they said now we’re signing into a new contract so they signed to a new contract and then he actually ends up
Challenging for a title which we were like okay say let so you want to keep him this year let’s I I’ll keep him to the end of the season but if he doesn’t a trophy if he doesn’t win a trophy or get he isn’t win he isn’t winning the
Prem let’s just establish that stop saying I hate this when Arsenal fans come in on the chat and always say well we’ll keep him if he doesn’t win bro he’s not winning it now from this you’re not he isn’t winning it right so in my opinion it’s all about progression if
You go to the quarterfinal semi-final get knocked out of Real Madrid and you you challenge Man City for the last game of the season or Liverpool or whatever and you don’t lose it in game week 30 I think that’s progression from last year I keep the same for every disagree no
Disagree same result you won nothing you won nothing there is no bro come on Mo there is Lee you say you either win or you lose no Lee because Brighton do you believe Brighton is a win or loser Club yeah let me tell you about Brian because
You’ve just hit a trigger point of mine oh my you have just hit a SK Sports and the British media have you believed that Brighton are a well-run club best president in the world said that I never said that don’t say I said that never said I never said
That no Brighton factually correct information Tony bloom or is his name Tony Bloom Tony Bloom won the best owner in Europe yeah award a couple of months ago now let me tell you about Brighton yeah right Brighton of what Sky Sports keep telling you Jona are yeah oh but
They’re backed by the city group okay cool we paid 29 the German giraffe more money every year than Jona are spent in free their Club has gone from second division to La Liga temp to fight him with Real Madrid for a title and that’s the second most points Real Madrid have
Ever had at the halfway stage in La Liga history and that Jona team is now currently top after their draw yesterday or day before right and they’ve spent 16 million euros in three years Brighton on the other hand yeah and nickin yeah fre four five times more money annually than
Jona Jona by the way I did this earlier on the stream so I’m so glad you brought this up Jona in the last four years income is less than 100 million EUR Brighton are getting more than that for TV Revenue right now adding all their transfers way more money Premier
Like Premier there’s a reason there’s a reason basis that basis so on that basis then why can’t why can’t Brighton now adding in 400 million pounds worth of sales in two seasons be up there competing for a title but this little dead Club has 2000 wait wait let him finish let him
Finish but this little dead Club Jona right it’s on the border of Andor right with 2,000 capacity more than Luton with a income on par with loot it’s basic what they’re doing is basically Loot and town getting promoted finishing 10th from being top yeah because their income
Yeah for the last four years has been there or thereabouts the same their sta Stadium capacity is there or thereabouts the same yeah yeah and they’re top of the league what’s the difference oh but they’re infested with City Group they spent 16 million Eur canadad because they’re going up against
Two three of the biggest clubs on the planet yes so what’s the difference your statement is your statement from all of this is that every Club in the Premier League should aim to win the Premier League yeah this is it there’s no is if you not winning the Premier League
You’re you’re you’re saying exactly what Antonio con said there’s one winner and 19 losers facts because we don’t need all the opinions and waffling and context and all of that yeah there’s a predefined metric for success in football and that is a medal and a trophy at the
End of it if you haven’t won one you’ve lost yeah at the end of the season if lot and Sheffield United or Burnley stay up yeah Sky Sports are gonna have wet floor signs out oh my God yeah yeah luten fans orever what team theel survived relegation all of them promoted
Teams that have come up by the way spent literally less than 50 million between them yeah right last palas yeah are currently eighth in the league they just got promoted why can’t Burnley L yeah or anyone else do that why why did Luton spend no money in the summer oh they’re
Building a stadium well they built that or were building that before they embarked on the campaign that got unpromoted yeah and they’re earning a lot more money than Jona who are top of the league yeah come on but again um Lee if if Jona don’t win the
League have they made progress if Real Madrid somehow pip it to them have they made progress no because Real Madrid will win the league so they fouled again yeah so so so based on I just want to get this like clear so based on your metric and your view whoever doesn’t win
Regardless of where they’ve come from is a failure is that what you’re saying fact yeah because again like come back to the predefined metric for success in football armpits win a trophy yeah my opinion you guys opinions the chat’s opinions and anyone else’s opinions are irrelevant yeah what do you base success
On and size of Club on yeah so you’re determined that maybe man united are bigger than Liverpool based on trophies and vice yeah you’re determined that Arsenal are bigger than Chelsea based on trophies it’s not based on progress oh but but but but we moved forward but but
But they they flooded the market with money no I will answer this very simply I will answer this very simply if we are in a qualification for the Olympics and we know that there is the fastest guy on Earth and who AR competing against the
Guy and I’m the eighth and I get the bronze medal or I get the uh the whatever the silver medal I made progress because I was meant I am the eighth fastest guy on Earth and I was able to develop myself and train myself to get a medal which is the second or
The third medal I was never meant to win it because talent wise God didn’t make me faster than the guy some clubs in the world in in football which football is a sport there are Talent more talented players than others there are more intelligent coaches than others Mela
Might never reach pep gordola right Carlo andelot might not be Pep Guardiola but he’s better than something else right there are coaches that will never reach that Elite level there are more talented so that means the big clubs hire the more talented guys that means the smaller clubs when they go against
Them incorrect but carry on more do you agree that there are more talented players than the others in the world I I I’ll tell you you said the big clubs hire the best managers that’s factually incorrect Real Madrid yeah the last 17 managers Real Madrid have had because
They are the best club on the planet and have been for 80 years yeah 10 out of the last 17 managers they’ve had have had less than 50 games why because they spotted a a bozo and a dud real quick Carlo ancelotti yeah has managed yeah is the second highest manager for games
Managed in their history he’s managed 61 games more than Arta for Real Madrid 203 for Arta why because because of the mentality you said about winning a bronze or a silver in the Olympics in the 100 meters or whatever yeah right and you’re the eighth fastest but you came FD th
Progress no you just lost by less but I am I was I don’t have the talent to be the top guy oh get better qualific better get better I was never I was not born first okay well are Wigan better are Wigan better than Man City
Because Wigan beat Man City in a cup final final so are they better that’s oneoff but that’s it’s not one off it’s not a oneoff because Southampton who got relegated bottom of the table beat man cityon have more okay so let me ask do you believe Sheffield United have the
Players or the capacity to be better than Manchester City no they don’t have the mindset bro yeah I’ll give you another a perfect example when brenford got promoted first game brenford had in the Premier League I remember Ivan Aral two Ian Ivan Tony in the first interview after their first ever Premier League
Game here Ivan Tony was interviewed and the woman I think it was a woman reporter said to him what’s your target for the season he said win the league yeah that’s the mentality you’re not there to make up the numbers bro you’re there to win yeah win major
Honors yeah the game don’t care about progress there is no progress you either win or you lose the history books don’t show progress the history books show armpits medals W trophies won yeah 100% 100% never disagree with that it’s where you put your your Club is let me do
These super chats before we end because I don’t want to keep the guys for long I don’t want to keep play for long as well zad to think that artetta could win the Premier League against pep and and klopp is insanity I can of agree with that to
Be honest at the moment but he almost won it almost is not good enough almost is not yeah I almost won the lottery I just didn’t take it the Book of Eli saying give a manager 600 million you should expect trophies well the other managers are spending money as well but
Yes well actually that’s fact incorrect yeah because I’ll share my screen real quick here right in the last 12 years 11 years sorry Real Madrid has spent 134 million euros more than Arsenal which equates to about 112 million euros a season look at their team what they’ve
Won and look at Arsenal I mean you can’t you can’t continue to compare Premier League teams to these other teams whether it’s Real Madrid or not like Premier League teams generate because Premier League teams generate so much more money than all of these okay so why
Don’t they win then why don’t who win because the Premier League teams okay so why don’t I don’t our teams win more in Europe then yeah because I’ll tell you what yeah in since 2002 yeah since 2001 sorry yeah Spanish teams because Spanish league is disrespected mad yeah in
Europa League and Champions League yeah they’ve got to 18 finals against non-spanish teams and they’ve won all of them yeah man united are the biggest Club in England right in the last 70 games they’ve played against Spanish teams they’ve won 20 but man united generate more income
Than every team in Spain how’s that possible that Spanish teams are beating him every year for the last 70 games unly in the last five years we had Chelsea Man City and Liverpool reach most of the only one finals the is that mean the Premier League is is is better
Than the yes there are Real Madrid is better than everybody because they have better system they have better I I believe real M so how comes Via Real can beat Arsenal and man united how’s that possible in the in the 2000s and oh they beat years they be
Arsenal recently yeah yeah to win a Europa League how comes Arsenal and man united that’s because I mean to be fair that’s that’s when that’s when you your fan base was saying bigger fish to FR like that’s yeah yeah but either way how comes they can beat Arsenal and man
United in a semi and a final to win a Europa League their first ever trophy against two power you think they run better and mentality is better than the English clubs no I’ll tell you what the different yeah the mentality is different because I’ll tell you what
When we get into Europa League oh yeah that’s idale cup when we get conference league as our clubs big up West Ham yeah big up to West Ham right because they took it seriously and won it yeah but most of our clubs go oh yeah that’s a
Dead League oh that’s a dead competition we don’t want that we don’t want that but I’ll tell you saying here seevilla yeah viel yeah look at Bill B’s record in Europe and they only take players from The Basque region braier which is a population of 2.3 million look at the
European finals they’ve got to look at the finals they get to look at the Ray finals they get to yeah look at these teams taking their competition seriously with us in England yeah we’re Fielding clubs that have won nothing ever in their history of Fielding Reserve teams
In the League Cup yeah why because of that the differences are Broad in Italy in Spain in Germany and all these other countries is I don’t care about that you’re not going to beat Real Madrid or barca to a title cool well we’re going to win the cadell
Raiding yeah yeah but again this is why AR in my opinion you’re still in the process of winning unless you hire a top manager and you spend another 400 million to get mbapp and you get the best players and and now you win the trophies but otherwise I don’t think
You’re going to win against B you had the chance last year and you had the chance this year and he pissed It Off by signing kabitz I believed if he kept Granite Jacka I believe he might have won the title he might have said my my logic is tiring my logic is factual
Information I don’t care about fairy tales mate yeah yeah factual information has context to it you’re not really applying there’s no context it’s either facts or it ain’t yeah like there’s no context yeah I was dealing with Sava the other day on S Show and he was going
Yeah but con he lost seven out of 11 before he got sacked and the teams had three four games in hand behind us when Conte got sacked factually he was fourth yes or no yes okay but you’ll be over the moon to finish fourth yes there’s you don’t need context you’re either
Winning or losing there’s no context to that nobody what you said there is context it’s all about no look what you just the situation that you just said it’s all about trajectory and if you are for example if you are first and first and winning every game and then you start
Losing six games seven games you might be fourth at that time right the facts are you are fourth but the trajectory saying that if you stay with this manager you might finish 10th that’s called trajectory that’s like I’m one out of six one out of seven and we’re
Sting see see what you did I actually put context to what you said and you brought a different manager I brought I brought the manager that had one winning six and everyone said was finished and he was setting four or fifth because finished idiot no no but everyone was
Saying man city are in crisis when he won one out of six yeah because context don’t care yeah context is just a load of opinions and waffling yeah to factual information factually yes he was fourth or fifth nobody cares that he’s lost one out or one one out of six
Yeah the fact and reality is yeah the fact and reality is he was sat forth the same as Conte was sat forth when he got sacked he qualified finishing full for Champions League but now Tottenham fans are more emotionally attached to the manager and the players they have now
That if they finish fourth they’re over the moon well that’s what they were doing anyway listen I’m I’m I’m not we we can debate this for ever and ever I got I got questions that I want to ask Lee about the the clubs and you tell me your questions got
You want to ask a question I got I got I got work in the morning man I got wake up 2 a work let real a top club would have sacked artetta after the debacle of last year which has been the culmination of four years of piss poort
Management you don’t believe that he deserved another year book of AI come on people book of saying Money Talks give a manager enough and they will come good well PEP youran Club spend money but yes I see your point not every manager got yeah uh he tell me tell me who
Arteta has developed I’ll wait I actually told you I actually told you you just don’t want to hear it the Book of Eli you just don’t want to hear it my man Eli you don’t want to hear it but I told you Danny top G would you eat
Another oh you said this is the second or the third time on this channel you send this Super Chat back you’re if you’re GNA pay money to do a super chat use it like that you know what I’m trying to yes yes these guys are hilarious bro okay sad you have
Questions because we wanna no no I just I just wanted say Obviously just quickly in regards to the whole small team winning and stuff like that yeah we’re seeing at the moment proof that if you take a gamble you spend money which with obviously Everton and not and
Forest right now they’ve spent money they’ve taken a gamble to try and necessarily go and get into Europe and Everton did not for Everton tried to do that notam Forest just tried to spend their money to get better players into their team they had to switch a team
From 22 player to bring in 21 or the other way around they didn’t have to to be fa they chose to yeah sorry they chose to and then they took that risk and then now it looks like they’ve they’ve actually lost more than they were meant to in in the whole profit and
Sustainability the whole profit and sustainability they’ve been charged with um so what’s the out which we won’t find out until the end of this season because it’s not going to be a the season finished by the time we get the outcome of that which means if they stay up
It’ll be a penalty for next season yeah the only thing the only question for me is do you not think that they need at least some time to get a process in if they’re a smaller Club not necessarily because the bigger clubs are backed by money in
It listen big up to both of you yeah big up to all three of you and big up to the chat yeah the word process is a load of garbage yeah it is a buzzword yeah to make you believe that something is bigger than it is and it takes longer
Than it does right because you’re saying you know it takes time it takes time yeah let’s look at Antonio con forget Chelsea let’s look at when he went to Inter Milan right bang bang right away no no process nothing bro nothing problem he got to a Europa League final
As his first season signing 15 players who did he meet in the final seevilla who signed 17 that summer yeah The Following Season Antonio Conte after losing that final won the title they then told him yo we got to sell Lukaku we want to sell this player what did he
Do I’m out yeah lers right I’ve seen at letti under Simeone sign 17 players in the summer window we’ve seen noton and Forest do it fair enough sanctions but we don’t know what them sanctions are they’re up in May or April I think is when the hearing is and then you find
Out in May when The Season’s ended so they’re not going to get relegated by getting docked points this season same as everon the way they get relegated is by not being good enough right so if they get found guilty and they get dock points that starts off next season so
They’ll know and they already know and this is the difference between a club yeah that is just throwing money money money for the sake of money yeah without a real clear strategy behind it which is clearly yeah what usmanov was doing at Everton and what the guy um Forest is
Doing here the difference with Arsenal right and other clubs is yeah we’re massive football clubs and I’m not dissing either of them because Everton are a huge club and S of forest and they’ve won um titles and European trophies yeah but in terms of this football era now they’re not big clubs
Yeah they’re not big clubs yeah so to judge Arsenal on the same level as Everton and Forest in financially and financial fair play and all of this rubbish yeah if that is the case then that means we’ve mismanaged our money on the the likes of 29 Vieira Lona six
Goalkeepers yeah all of this and that oh it’s a process it’s a process I don’t hear process at Bayern Munich yeah I don’t hear process I don’t hear process at Elite level football club PSG I don’t hear process win or [ __ ] off sorry to swear yeah first time
I’ve sworn since I’ve been on it sorry yeah win yeah win at Real Madrid or F off barcel fans want jav out he’s won two trophy since he’s been there he won the title he’s current title holder they want him out if he loses to unionistas
On Thursday yeah the Del R he’s gone he’s gone I don’t even know who that club are brother I live in Spain he’s gone but there is progress Le did this we did this until we won the league from Juventus we heard spalletti he got us back to the Champions League
Built the squad a little bit but what we did different than you let me tell you let me tell you what we did different than you spetti actually got us to Champions League but the inter management fired him even though he succeeded in the objective they fired
Him why was that because they wanted to win now they wanted an because they realized yes they they said that you are not that this guy can only take us to a certain level yes realized that he’s a paid employee that is disposable yeah 100% which comes back to what I said
About angelotti angelotti is the second um longest serving manager in terms of games managed over two spells but in the collective sphere of real has managed more than artetta yes he’s managed 61 games at Real Madrid more than art one season basically including the cups and everything just one yeah all
Competitions it’s one season including one season they’re like yes but I get what your point what what what and this is what I’m saying they spot a dud quick bro whereas in England the pr is crazy yeah yeah but Lee that’s the difference for example we have two different
Opinions you’re an arsenal fan and this is the last part because I don’t want to go longer than this and Muhammad salad here isn’t an Arsenal fan but he’s he’s he’s the Muhammad Salah is a sports wrer and and he does all of this and he watches all the Premier League and he
Analyzes games and stuff in your opinion from day one you I wan after you speak I want to explain why I’m so big on like progress and process by the way so but but let me explain to you the difference in opinion reason someone is right maybe
Someone is Right someone is wrong Lee Gunner wanted art not to be hired day one out I don’t want you here I don’t want a process I don’t want to develop Young Players I Want a manager to come in and challenge the title this year this year my club is a
Big club we deserve to win the title this year right which is what man united fans are demanding now they’re like we want a manager the difference is Mo most salad here Muhammad is from outside he said no no no the club is in disarray you have too many Deadwood you need a
Young manager to develop young players and you might win the league later and that’s the difference you didn’t believe that artetta will win you the league ever from day one before you even see him manage you said this guy’s not good enough yeah based on factual information he’s never managed a football club
Because he never managed the footb manager in the world at the time but when Port I don’t know whoy obvious yeah but hold on I don’t know who Mourinho managed before I think he he he managed one team in Portugal Jo Jose bro Jose came in after winning five trophies at
Bro he walks into no no no I’m talking about before they hard him at Porto he managed one Club Bo Vista yeah Bo Vista yes Bo visha so he managed that one Club so he didn’t have a track record of winning but he came to PTO and he won
Right away right two seasons bang bang Mo salad believes that artetta can win Arsenal the title or there is a possibility but there has they have to wait that’s the difference between you and him it’s as simple as that does he have facts no does art did artetta win
Before no does he see signs of artetta winning the league yes do I see signs of artetta winning the league I saw last season am I looking at it this year I’m not seeing the same signs so I’m I’m going to the conclusion it was just a
Blip it was a fluke it was a fluke that’s the conclusion I gave him controlled football on the stream on the stream before by the way I feel like the first half of last season was an anomaly and it will never happen again only four teams in the in the history of the
Premier League have ever had 50 points or more after the first half of the season I I won’t call it a fluke because it’s something that happened and I mean they earned that but it was it was definitely an anomaly because it it will never happen again it’s a flu an
Anomaly fluke times in 35 years is a fluke bro no I mean a fluke is something that is in a one time this is an anomaly because Arsenal had to play 90 minute worth of games 19 times to finish on those points so it was it was there was
A World Cup as well in December which is also an anomaly never happened before yeah the World Cup in between as well yeah the fact that nobody nobody expected Arsenal to come out and play the football all of these things by the way I said the reason we never saw that
LE saw that I said the season which this season is now killing him because every team is Now parking the bus and he can’t find a way through it yeah and and the fact that he spent 65 million on that Chelsea reject right when we got
Rid of jakar weren’t great yeah he was not a very good footballer for R yeah one good season well done but you just needed a decent specialist in that position yeah and he went and brought a gizer who ain’t a specialist in any position bro yeah and now he’s thinking
Over the top about it changed our football up and everyone’s playing a low block yeah he can’t get round it why because ain’t experienced enough yeah if we I I’ll be real now if we sign Jose Mourinho right now we have a better chance to win the title this season than
With Al tile not maybe not the title but the champions league for sure Jose Mar that’s his competition I mean anyway listen listen I I have to we have to we have to end this The Book of Eli is coming in and saying every player in our
Squad has regressed under a oh this is a lot and his dead his dead sister this season this season last year was a fluke as stumbled upon but he scraped it sck him ASAP oh facts big up Eli real one my guy real one disagree but thank you for
The Super Chat I disagree this year yes but over the over his managerial career Arsenal was factually correct then no hold on hold on they regressed this year but that’s what he said wait just let me finish the sentence over the his managerial career he developed more than the the
Regression so they developed they regress this year even Saka regression this year he’s still putting up numbers right and also maybe this year is the fluke they progress maybe this year is the fluke we’ll see how it is Chelsea and Madrid and PSG Bayern even City before pep have
All got managers who have won without processes that’s how they built their success everybody’s jumping on the league Gunner train right now oh my God people thank you Memphis depart please everyone is jumping on the train everyone wants a piece of the pie well yeah because P don’t care about fiction
Or fairy tale story lines or drama room this and that yeah context there is no context you win or lose Mo come on we could have got Carlo but ended up with Lego head come on every time someone calls him I feel I feel like this is
Just all Lee Gunners um like Lee Gunners I didn’t I haven’t even shared it so all these people I’m not doing this off of me sharing going come dep is someone he watches my by the way process is a Alex feron and pep G fairy tale dream they are
Selling to buy more time to collect more money facts oh my God wait Alex Ferguson what Pro what process was he in when he beat Real Madrid with abedine in the cup European Cup Final or or Rangers in the European Cup six years from 86 to 92
When his first okay how long did it take him to win at s mirin how long did it take him to be how long did it take him to beat Rangers with abedine and then after the game in the Cup Final against Glasgow Rangers there standing on camera
Before he’s even at United saying that’s not an abedine performance that’s disgusting They just won the cup he’s on the pitch that’s a disgusting performance yeah nobody can take credit from that game they just won the cup yeah mentality yeah which is why he was successful Jose mentality yeah and
Mentality I watched that at just want to discredit the guy’s development I based off of one trophy out of six yes okay but that did he take the Squad further of course he did he hasn’t he took us backwards and now seen his progress okay yeah he took you okay you
Took you as a club backward maybe because you were 20 years ago winning trophies 20 years no forget 20 I I said the stats about five yeah he’s he took us backwards with League positions trophies won yeah European record yeah League Cup yeah knockout stages everything’s gone backwards yeah but now
Because we was in one title race everyone gets in their feelings yeah oh my God we’re now a title title Contender again so everyone’s forgotten every I wantan to ask you one question one question right one question and that’s it do you believe if a new manager comes
In they will need to sign eight nine 10 players or they would be able to use the players you have to actually maybe add a piece of two to win titles great question if we sign on chelot right now today yeah today we win this tile okay
So that means that proves my point he took the squad to the point where maybe a new manager comes in uses that the players he devoloped the players he devoloped see that’s that’s that’s exactly exactly let me finish your arum no no no no if if argument one second if
Lee’s argument is he’s not good enough to take you over the top and win that’s fair enough and that’s his opinion I can even might even be able to agree with that but if you if you if you’re if you’re going to discredit everything he’s done that’s where what has he done
Bro a point where the squad is good enough to win the league which is what you’re saying you literally said Lee a manager comes in with the squad win okay you literally just said now a manager comes in with this squad win the league who built this
Team he did that’s it he built team he built a winning team why did we sack Aron Fenger thank you exactly yeah exactly you tell you why you sacked I tell you exactly why you sacked arson venger and I remember that period specifically because top four for Arsenal fans and
Arsenal Football Club and you and I remember Arsenal fans you guys bragged about being 17 consecutive years in the group stage of the Champions League that’s exactly why 20 out 22 that’s exactly why arson vinger got sacked because he was all right for going to the Champions League he said yeah that’s
The objective for us and this what the club said you’re done here okay so can we all agree here then based off of all of your words yeah that Champions League qualification and winning three cups in the last what six six years five years of his reign six year yeah five years
Four years whatever it was three fa cups and Champions League qualification Europa League F uh semi-final League Cup Final yeah and getting top four a few times blah blah blah was deemed not good enough can you all agree that the standards have lowered then since he was sacked because he was
Sacked thank you how can you see why I get talking about not a question now can you see why I get so angry so now it’s gone so Low Mo yeah this is now seen as progression no no yeah but that’s the point I am being here and now and you
Are still thinking that yeah 20 years ago AC 2018 that was six years ago but your last Premier League trophy was 20 years ago that’s the that’s anyway yeah which is why I wanted him sacked because top four an FA Cup I’m not good enough for Arsenal Football Club that’s what you
Want to Lee you’re an old enough fan with all respect to see your club I’m old as well titles to see win League titles to see your the top level doubles invinci Cup winners I’ve seen it all mo yeah which is I’ve seen seven I know you know one one one thing
I want to say about the older Arsenal fans because 2006 when they lost to one of the greatest Barcelona teams they were upset because they wanted to win that nowadays and that’s something I agree with Lee with nowadays Arsenal fans would clap and say that is good
Enough for us we reach the champion that’s my point and that’s why I get so angry I get what you’re saying but my and I get what you’re saying and I normally don’t disagree I never say that the standards went down but I’m living
On the here and now and at the end this guy arteta might not win you the league and you might get anchel and win you the league but I will never sit here and say that I discredit what he did and he lives in these low standards he is a
Product of Arsenal low standards the club it’s not his fault it’s where Club is at it’s where he but he didn’t do a bad job based on his standards and what Arsenal Football Club standards are Arsenal Football Club standards now are yeah sack emry scrape the players get me
Young players build a squad maybe next year get ancelotti and win the title but win the title with Mel T’s team so that means he did something good even though if the standard is low The Narrative oh our Teta built the foundations okay so on that basis then
Unai emry that left the toxic negative Squad that he won the FA Cup with it’s not an Nota achievement then it’s unai ‘s toxic negative Squad that he’s ripped up got rid of a cup of course it’s not ‘s cup of what what the heck thank you
Of course it’s not oury is that no you take you take you like if someone came at Spurs after Mourinho and played the final and won the final would you say that’s oh yeah that’s other manager title of course not Mourinho is the one who got you there and you took the whole
Team with the whole plan so yeah I’m with you here but I’m gonna be the same he developed but anyway Listen People couple of super chats and then I’m ending this right TJ War TV some people just want success out of Arsenal there is no shame in wanting to see the
Success this club has had in the past big up play and sad come on you goers thank you tjj appreciate big up go day is saying but Arta has hard expected trophies that’s a joke thank you people are funny today hey y I’m not going to lie today you look your chat
Has been hilarious today bro Shia is saying the process is when cup Eric hog out my favorite my favorite one my favorite one is Arta coached the 40 today that’s the that’s the best one n man he coached the 40 zad zun is same process constantly throwing cups in the B that’s something
I think of like he’s is absolutely wrong in that I’m in agre with that as well I I don’t agree with bigger fish to fry I remember last year bigger fish to fry when you throw out the Europa League eal sniff Setta sucks why is eal
Is not here why why is he catching stay anyway Listen People this has been absolutely magnificent stream D pot’s absolutely legend for being here T podcast absolutely brilliant of course sad football Corner great great appearance and Muhammad Salah always fantastic and Brandon who I have a special place in my heart Brandon for
Always helping me on this channel absolutely brilliant Lee of course jumping on the stream absolutely phenomenal put Lee hij Jack In The Stream I’m gonna put Lee’s two channel so if you have not subscribed to Lee Gunner or Lee reacts where he does tons of watch alongs it’s so funny to be
Honest doing a lot of watch alongs you have to do that all the channels are going to be in the description one lot congrats on TK next panel you see will and Lee oh would be hilarious willingly but willingly will agree because will thinks that Arsenal aren’t good enough
And there’s no point but thank you that appreciate tell him about the CRA Point yeah he thinks anyway anyway anyway listen people from the judge s yes I appreciate you people and we are out of here thank you so much you need toester in the afternoon I’ve had three hours Rob thank
You people yes
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My Somali bradda listens to respond and not to understand, interrupts then waffles for extensive periods to land at the same point he made prior. Big up though, great content Mr shaytaan advocate!
Brandon "True gunner not Bhaws" is a joke. Lost almost every constructive argument against Bhaws on another show just before.
Arteta build the team is his team so no excuses. Good show Mo. But i don’t think Arsenal fans should Panic yet. They have to wait till end of season. But if Arteta didn’t win shit they need to talk lol. 4 years no trophies wow.
Havertz is being paid £280k per week , he isn't plan B
Absolutely brilliant show Mo,
Most quite I've seen Saad, does he still think Arsenal can beat Inter in CL 🤣🤣🤣
Martinelli has been piss poor
This guy just said José Mourinho is the greatest manager of all time LOL, tell me you don't know footbal wihtout tell us you don't know football
I dont get why Potts says it's a system issue of we create the chances but the players are not finishing the chances. Soo how do you create 70 chances in 4 games but it's a system fault
There one fact whether you like or not. Did Arsenal competed for the league with Emery? With Wenger on his last 4 years? Arteta made it from scrach. Yes he spent 600-650M. But that's what required in todays market. Where all transfers perfect? Probablly a 100M could be spent better.
Tierney doesn't do what arteta wants him to do .Lee gunner will always come with a negative view never balanced now wants to take over other people's channels.
Why have this guy on your show?? Show me his factual information and not his opinion.
Arteta hasnt done great at all he blipped last season 4th 5th is his level so he isnt good enough simple as that. I agree with lee the standards have dropped massively
Is this the real madrid lee gunner or mo show ??? Are we debating english clubs or clubs from overseas that most people here dont support??Lee gunner always try to deflect.
What's so funny is Lee knows fuçk all about football. He just reads factual stats all the time. Guy is such a 🔔 end
Its crazy how things change so fast.. I thought Arsenal is that team? I thought odegaard can chat to Kdb? I thought Saka can chat to Salah? Rico is better than Rodri? Saliba is the best defender in the league? Is Martinelli not the best rw no more? Arteta is better than Klopp they said, Arsenal is as good as City.. At the end of the day Arsenal fans are the biggest reactionary people in good and bad situation
Don't u dare say Kai say KING KAI show some respect 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Xhaka wanted to go for family reasons it wasn’t Arteta letting him go,ffs man
Wil ARSE take PEP😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just shut up it was u gooners named him King Kai 😂😂😂😂
Haarland didn't play 9 games and still the leading goal scorer
All ARSE fans get this in urls thick heads last year's performance was a fluke and a one off reason being man united Liverpool and Chelsea wasn't on par
So according to this Dan guy Arteta should have listened to him as he is always right , he saw what we were lacking and Arteta did not address it. IMO he was the only fan who did not enjoy our campaign last year. Bro don’t waffle just to get views, people appreciates honest opinions as well.
Getting very boring now
We had won the league if Saliba wasn't injured🤣🤣🤣. FFS think Arsenal's injuries matter to their results but not Spurs' injuries, fucking hypocrites!!!


In 5 mins of Lee coming on made more sense than whole of the hour before.
With all due respect the MoeSalad guy is an absolute waffler; said 15-20 goals, then when the panel pressed him, changed it to 25-30 — later on, said Nketiah very good backup striker, after he got challenged, said he isn’t the worst, if you have 100 strikers, very good or good, is top 20, not the worst is everyone above 50 bar the last!!
Good debate overall, love to see each and every AFC panelist here, big up Mo, big up Lee, Potts, Brandon and Saad!!
And as I always say, the truth is always somewhere between the pessimist and the optimist!
For years and years we’ve been telling you all Mikel FRAUDteta he’s a fraud… you didn’t want to hear it you couldn’t control your emotions!
Oh well you never learn 👍
Dauds cousin is clueless 😂😂😂
I love ArseAnal fans like Mo he will make sure ArseAnal will continue to fail and flop!!! We need more deluded ArseAnal fans like Mo he’s the best he drags the club down it’s what we all want to see 😂😂
MO this has been the best show yet. no cap.
The holes were made by Arteta
Honestly suck of seeing that Lee clown everywhere.
Good show Mo, but having a whole Panel of Lee Gunner types isn't a good rep of the Arsenal fan base.
It’s lazy to say it’s MA’s fault 👀👀
OK to have Kai as £65M backup 👀
Nketiah is a VERY GOOD BACKUP 🤦🏽♂️
I’m happy Brandon called out Bhavss as I was choking on his waffle yesterday; he’s a huge pundit and is spewing pro club nonsense…..even Egal has settled down into a real and honest hard look at MA and what he has done.
This was one of the best shows 🙌…Lee gunner needs to come back
Here is a question to you Mo, if you believe Arsenal were title contenders based on a fluke last season so did you make Leicester title contenders the following season after winning the league. I bet not. It’s delusional to think just because they were second, also I didn’t see anyone making Spurs title contenders when they choked competing against Leicester
Wow Mo what a stream thank u just caught up brillant nice to Lee xx
What a show! Excellent stuff, gentlemen.
Way this yute saying we ain’t team for trophies yet icl that’s like me saying aletico shouldn’t win trophies Cuh not ready team better Wah rubbed statement small club mentality talking about arsenal like we are stoke
Lees spot on if your not in the league to compete why are you in it? If everyone had that mentality the league would be mega
From a non Arsenal perspective… seems like Arteta is just trying to copy Pep with his tactical adjustment to control, but he doesn't have the squad for it, and isn't able to tweak it like Pep does.