On Episode 478 of Spittin’ Chiclets, the guys are joined by 4th Overall draft pick of the San Jose Sharks and World Junior Gold Medalist, Will Smith (01:05:51) to talk about team USA’s big win over Sweden. But first, the boys get into William Nylander’s new contract. Later on, Joey Daccord joins the show (02:16:41) to talk about his career and what drove him to become this year’s MVP at the Winter Classic. Lastly, the guys bring on Pasha (03:21:56) to go over a special moment he brought to light for a dear friend off the podcast that involved Wayne Gretzky and Nickelback lead singer, Chad Kroeger. Jersey Jerry took the internet by storm with his “Hole In One” livestream challenge…if Spittin’ Chiclets did a 24/7 Live Stream what are some things you’d want to see the boys do?
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Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Bol Sports podcast family what’s up everyone hope you had a great week we got some Allstar names Willie gets paid and the US shows you how gold is made but let’s say hi to the boys first Ryan Whitney the wit dog
What is shaking buddy oh [ __ ] ra spitting spitting bars off the hwk here holy [ __ ] who is this guy we got Will Smith on so he feels like he rap a little bit to get this thing going was it the clean version like Will Smith and
I don’t know if we talked about it in the interview we did oh we did okay we mentioned it with them the the alltime family I think it’s Family Guy clip of Will Smith with the clean wrap but um nothing boys nothing’s going on here pretty lowkey weekend little bit of a
Snowstorm yesterday so finally got our first snowfall um I think my basement’s going to flood again tomorrow when the snow melts so I’m completely panicked about that you know you know the basement that can never ever ever get fixed no matter how many people we hire
To then tell us it’ll never flood again but you know what I’m not in a complaining mood I’m in a fabulous mood I’m excited to record can we get some can we get somebody with a camera having these interactions between Wht and all these contractors that that would be
[ __ ] gold and oh yeah that’d be real funny for you hey Biz just laughing it up as you build your crib and [ __ ] Scott send one over to my place cuz [ __ ] we’re about to have a rough and rowdy over here Fu if I take a cameraman
To to down every time we redo the basement and try to uh waterproof this thing over and over then we get to have a cameraman follow you when you’re sure physically and mentally abusing your contractor as your house gets finished 8 months after he told you it would be
That’ll be the deal stop you would have as many seasons as lost that’s how many [ __ ] times you I feel like I’m on an island when the when it rains and all of a sudden there’s just water gushing through into our heater and all this other crap down in the unfinished that’s
Just the golf simulator it’s trying to bring you into reality of uh whatever the one last flood I was down in Orlando when I went and did that had 117 holes in like 2 and 1/2 days right before Christmas and I got the call from the wife she’s down there with the trash
Barrel she’s shoveling water and the kids are screaming she taking them to hockey and I’m just hitting my my 14th Drive of the day I was like H this is not good so today at least tomorrow I’ll be home and I’ll be the one bailing water out of the basement [ __ ]
Myself for buying this house hey memes has to put uh your wife’s head on the Lieutenant Dan on the ship with with Tom Hanks like battling the downstairs basement the treacherous weather down there yeah and then and then you can put my head on Forest when he just Dives in when he
Hears his mom isn’t doing well at home and all of a sudden I I could do some laps in the basement actually so um no but but as I mentioned just quickly there I’m coming off a gold medal it’s been an amazing week to be a a USA
Hockey fan on a lum of USA hockey and a lum of the World Junior Team did I ever do anything in the tournament nope but all these kids nowadays they’re coming up they’re getting better we’ll get into it and I’m excited to talk that and the NHL William neander stories Galore it’s
Midseason but it feels like it’s buzzing right now sometimes you get the quiet weeks we’re not in the midst of that right now not at all the doll Drums of the season and actually we were on our uh I feel like that’s like February late second week of January to second week of
February Anon Carter agrees we’re on our TNT call and I I agree like this is kind of like the the quote unquote doldrums but because this NHL season’s been so excited we still have [ __ ] headline stories coming out this this season’s been bananas there’s been no lulls as
Far as storylines of concern and then of course Willie gets his bag so yeah we’re going to get to that R I want to know hey I want to get to the bottom and we were talking before we got on here G’s talking about how he had four goals and
23 assists in his last year of playing High School hockey no no no you asked me what like a statline would be like I don’t know well do you mentioned how you played against unreal players in [ __ ] and High School let me let me the conversation and how
It came up is granelli talked about playing against the cord potentially in high school and I’m like when the [ __ ] were you sharing the ice with Joey the cord he said he played division 2 Massachusetts high school he that’s how he was like I came from the doldrums of
Massachusetts high school and I was like that’s me the doldrum Mike I sucked at hockey so no okay time out so you said that you chimed in so wit started you know crime dog McGruff over here trying to Google your stat lines and there’s nothing there’s nothing on hockey well
His brother’s on Elite prospects but granelli says until you play Junior you can’t get on Elite prospects so once you play like a higher level you can get on I don’t know the rules so then I I dug a little deeper and I found out of the
Burlington the I guess it’s the sew 2011 this could be like R lying about playing high school basketball type I didn’t lie ioint contested High School lay off the guy with that Range St we get a yearbook did we get yearbook photo ra I unfortunately I did not get a yearbook
There no evidence a guy who sends us pictures of like old old we get once a week we get an old picture we got a picture today ra with four absolute missiles ra has hair on a tan and a tan I mean you were thinning out a little
Bit on top at that point but you had hair and you looked [ __ ] great it was like an ad for like not doing hard drugs no offense R you look phenomenal but in the end in the end that picture blew me away I sent it to a couple of my buddies
Go look at ra boys you were an absolute stallion we got to post it if if we got you Ria and got you on the app and you put that as your cover photo you might still be tapping like missile launcher 30-year-olds that’s how good this photo
I know it was taken on a Polaroid but if you take a screenshot of the Polaroid I think you’re going to be doing good on Rya but he has so many pictures of himself as a youngster but then he doesn’t have a yearbook it’s like this guy’s the picture guy something doesn’t
Add up that’s what I’m saying no we got [ __ ] on a earbook it was the last year my high school was open um they actually gave us a refund years later they never they supposedly lost it I had classic old pitches when I was a little kid they
They lost the whole [ __ ] package supposedly so I’m still bitter that I do not have a high school yearbook at all just so happens the year was hitting three-pointers and jump shots that that no you got Listen to I was JV I played I didn’t play Senor yet cuz I got I got
Puppy loved I was all H it’s not a DA in a girl I was like I ain’t playing basketball and then she started playing girls basketball and I went to the coach I was like oh can I play he’s like nope should have been former teammates on
That team we can get on the podcast you hear what he just said no I stop basketball your senior year for a girl and then she went and played basketball no I I didn’t go to trials yeah it was lovey actual Love and Basketball story they stole the concept from I’m white
And I can’t play basketball no I know they had to change it obviously and like to to sell it no I didn’t quit I triy outs hadn’t started I started daer I was yeah I was Senor High School googly eyed [ __ ] love you know like a [ __ ]
Cartoon character I love like Hots in the eyes and then so I didn’t go to Tri outs and then when the girls Tri outs came she started to play and I tried to get back on the on the hoop team then and they’re like NOP man Tri outs were
Two weeks ago should have been here so they missed out so he was he was a bookie for all their games it all worked out the end uh we’re going to cut that no that that didn’t cut till College although I did get caught I did get
Caught sorry B I did get caught uh giving out football cards in High School uh wait I didn’t get suspended though what do you mean football cards like like to to take the games to bet the games yeah do you ever see them like the little white cards way before the
Internet you would Circle four teams and you pull like a $10 P you know $10 down you’d win like a 100 bucks yeah I mean I think because a good story about G I was going to ask were you aware that R’s voicemail used to be his picks where you
Would call Ray on his voicemail it would give you the DA’s pick so he would change his daily voicemail every day and that’s where the people that he was being a bookie for would call in to get the lines right all right oh and then and then their message after hearing the
Lines would be who they want not pick yeah yeah they I would yeah informational purposes only with I would leave a voicemail with uh that Sunday’s lines and uh people you know for for amusement only would maybe leave who their picks were later and we would keep
Tab of it and you know cash out at the end of the era cash in but yeah uh it was I again way before the Annet like uh he it’s uh Bri not here right now Mr Black if you’re wondering uh New England 6 with a 42 Seattle 3 and then they
Would leave a voicemail and yeah you know see how see how we go at the end you’re ahead of the times all right but um my my football pick I’m glad this just came up cuz I forgot I had a I have a buddy um who was in a really big
Survivor pool so it ended up down to about uh there was seven guys left and the last three weeks of the Season you had to pick two winners each week right so you had the first 14 weeks you got to pick a winner and then you got to pick
Six winners the last 3 weeks like basically impossible to do I mean there’s 350 Grand in this pool oh my God seven guys left so going into the last week the guy who’s running the pool he sends out an email to the seven guys listen this is what we can do like
Apparently the site was kind of hard to work with and it was like all legally put in nowadays it’s different this is going to he says this is what we could do every guy right now and we need we need a uh everyone to vote the same what
Is the what is the word I’m looking for R when everyone uh consensus um consensus um we are such jokes when everyone has to pick like the juror like the jur sure yeah yeah like cast a votee a ballot uh no like everyone has like if one person doesn’t do it unanimous we
Are pathetic we are pathetic job I did play high school hockey I did play high school hockey I swear I can’t even think of the word unanimous so back to the story yeah back so um so seven people it has to be unanimous now the one option is everyone votes that everyone’s going
To get 10,000 bucks no matter what and then the next uh whatever 290 Grand the winner can get or the winners will split and if you lose if you don’t have two winners you’re guaranteed 10 grand it’s a $100 pool but you can’t can can that point forward can you continue to split
If a few more people get eliminated well no because like you weren’t allowed to find out who anyone else was he wouldn’t give you names he wouldn’t give you email so he’s running it so it’s it’s 10 grand for everyone guaranteed and still the ability to win 290 I think no it’s a
No no brainer no brainer no brainer one guy no one guy said no okay and apparently like my buddy reached out and he’s like Hey listen can you ask this guy again like this is just ridiculous and he’s like no this guy’s hedged everything out there’s no way that he’ll
Make a deal like just such a brain dead dumb [ __ ] move so um my buddy ends up picking two winners along with five other people two people got knocked out one of them was the [ __ ] who ended up [ __ ] gr he had hedged I’m sure he
Ended up hedging a way to win something but that’s Karma right there now the person who’s most furious is the other guy who wanted to take the deal that that that so he got I I would I would want to kill that dude if I was the one
Guy who didn’t pick two winners so my buddy with a huge dub I think the five winners ended up getting about right around 60 Grand each something like that um so an amazing weekend for him okay so after that the five guys decided to hedge Five Guys no because all five
Picked two winners so they had to split so in the end there were five winners in the pool okay okay okay sorry totally different subject but another funny thing that happened this weekend Brian Yandel uh there was a big uh kind of fundraiser for his son Liams teams
Going to the Quebec peeee tournament the 2011 Boston junor Terriers so they had a fundraiser we went over to Florian Hall in Dorchester and uh big Kevin Hayes was there Kevin’s dad greatest guy in the world now he’s a big guy I said big Kevin Hayes he looks great now he’s lost
A lot of weight but still a big dude and we’re just shooting the [ __ ] I said oh how is the dad’s trip in St Louis said it was a blast he said uh we had an absolute great time [ __ ] Kevin want know what [ __ ] Kevin did to me
Apparently they went around to the guys beforehand and said hey we’re ordering all this merch and and jerseys and shirts for the dads what what size is your dad Kev he goes medium so he shows up and all this [ __ ] he’s like you [ __ ] Kevin’s like I didn’t do it
I didn’t do it he said like he’s denying it to his dad but his dad says it was him so I don’t know what went on there but it sounded like the dads in St Louis had a bunch of beauties there and had a great old Turning Point TSN turning
Point for the season possibly possibly oh okay yeah theyig shootout win the other day Biz you do anything exciting over the weekend or just relax no hey well before we come to me we got to go back to G so who do you think can bring
Proof of either High School hockey or he played he played I know he played I do know he played like what like like the the the JV or this like the the big play Varsity for Burling Burlington High I do know that Burlington not a good program
With okay so I I asked you earlier what would your stat line look like your senior year and you said four goals and 23 assist yeah that’s a pretty good statline I know is there documentation of this I want to know if this [ __ ] kid was snapping around tape the tape
Like he says he wasend I think he just a little salt and pepper with the 4 and 23 for 27 I think it was probably like 2 and 14 for 16 I would agree I would definitely agree with all right and and I like I said I was a mediocre High
School hockey player I wasn’t the top pairing defenseman I was a middle pairing guy I never said I was a good hockey player I said I played against good hockey players correct correct I wouldn’t mind a senior year program if you got one late in the season I just
Love to Peak the stat line I definitely have a senior year program lying around were you on the biz program like four minutes a game or were you I don’t think thinking he was getting eight minutes a game8 to 10 second P around there I don’t think Mass
High School hockey was keeping track of time on ice back in 2010 2011 but now you were one of the kids that was like smoking weed before practice like you were one of those kids right no I actually didn’t smoke weed in high school I was uh that’s good to hear yeah
I was a drinker I took pretty seriously I didn’t uh yeah it was I I took it pretty serious all right you hear that he took High School off how do you feel but I was a [ __ ] great student [ __ ] 1 through 12 I was a real good student
Well I was saying he let his brain develop were you smoking dope in high school very little I didn’t become I didn’t become a regular like Stoner up until College I sporadically you let your brain develop too well that’s good that’s good that’s positive stuff for
The was 12 but um okay so G what what were you saying I’ll tell you what while I have you guys here I will say I will be at Penn State this weekend filming a chicklet University episode playing against uh Michigan State so very excited to go check out the
Hockey Valley you’re going to see the Iceman dude from Michigan State exactly going to see the Iceman Isaac Howard baby with the World Junior Team when you say Pula the same ones as Buffalo Sabers yeah that’s correct so they purchased the uh they paid for the rink down at uh
P no [ __ ] oh my God these guys are rich rich eh oh yeah they’re pretty rich they they own an NFL and NHL team they’re pretty rich oh they own the [ __ ] bills now too oh [ __ ] I totally forgot that or didn’t know that God Merl is probably [ __ ] losing his mind right
Now that I don’t know that sorry he still has the Swedish stiletto heel up his hoop as he’s doing dishes after his Bender in gothenberg he was posting videos to the chat about the representation of bills Mafia in Miami and Fort Lauderdale at That Elbow Room
Place that we went to so did they just pull off a big win huge win they won the AFC East on Sunday night against the fraud Dolphins they that game was for the AFC East so instead of um I think the the Dolphins hosting a playoff game
As the two seed they’re now they’re now going to Kansas City playing Saturday night and the bills get to host the Steelers who stink and they’re like minus 10 so that was a huge game oh and and then when the bills got home around like 2: in the morning there’s 3,000
Buffalo lunatics in two degree weather waiting for the team outside the plane so you know those the bills mafia they they show support no matter what um as far as my weekend R do what were you going to say no no go after you oh no
Meditation went on a hike no I was kind of I got sick man I got [ __ ] speed bagged end of Cabo I got the stomach bug and then went into the [ __ ] uh pneumonia dunk tank uh with Maran Lynch out in Seattle immune system low like I
Got kicked in the dick and then like so we had to do that broadcast on the Monday and I did the dunk tank the day before and even the day before we ended up doing something with yansan and BR and then flew cross country the planes
Can’t be good for for a low immune system and then we had the broadcast on Wednesday thank God was it was only the the early game and we didn’t do a late game but after that got kind of speed bagged but boys I’ve been doing these uh
These tie massag is like crazy lately like if you if you looked at my credit card you would seriously think that I’m addicted to tugs and I don’t know if this place is like an undercover tug place I don’t think it is I think it’s legitimate I I was def I definitely
Thought it was legitimate until two massages ago where I think the like the lady she was like 50 she her she was getting lazy hands like like you know like bumping into it quite a bit did I do you weren’t leaning into it no I don’t do that I don’t do the but
These I every time I’ve gone there I’ve never had a repeat lady and every time it’s been 10 out of 10 these [ __ ] they hold on to the top and they walk on you oh then they walk on you they [ __ ] get their toes into your what I
Find gets tight oh buddy oh buddy right in there re Ryan is Somewhere listening to this no no no not in a gross gross way but I mean they can apply more pressure than they would be with any other like with their arm their forearm or whatever so
They’re just beating the wheels off your posterior chain so I love it and from traveling you’re always curled up in a ball so I went three three days in a row I went uh I went uh Friday Saturday Sunday three days in a row is that aggressive two hours now why do they
Knuckle you each time well they knuckle them all right that’s why I specified with with tip I think it’s like 225 wow that’s a lot is that a lot my new that’s like my that’s like my new thing like if you say what do you what do you like splurge on now every
I’ve done it like the last three four times I’ve been home where I go at least for two Time Massages when I get like a 4 day Gap I I I don’t know if like if you’re on a first date and she’s like what are your hobbies I don’t think you
Lead with Time Massages that that probably won’t go over well I know I I felt like I had to open up to somebody about it and I figured I just talk to you guys about it where I’m like hey like you know three time the old three and three like the American League
So that’s kind of been all I’ve been doing lately is getting Tha massages and chilling when I can and then other than than getting sick it was it was a good holiday so like if you were to find out that this place was like a Robert Craft
Asian day SP what worried and then they and they weren’t like offering this to you would you take offense like what am I oh no I would just be worried about like the [ __ ] door caving in like everybody on the ground I was just go in the bathroom like it’s it’s an AB
Imagine you on the news like B busted in North Scott sale with Kim g l walking on his cornhole immediately fires you what if craft was going to one and didn’t know and he just was victim of circumstance like maybe that’s when you’re getting a [ __ ] and a massage part that’s called
The Asian Day Spa you know what it is oh he got he got like when they kicked down the door he was getting a rinse there was video in in that one it had been a sting for such a long time the the police had had a video every time I like
I like up I look in the corner like there’s surveillance and I’m like I’m innocent yeah my hands are by my side you had some Southern Sheriff Whit who just wanted a [ __ ] Pelt on his wall that that’s I all about that no [ __ ] he
You got the video the video bomb is that video G to come out like the the the like the craft walk I mean the the bich walk a shame one yeah no I don’t think prob the bottom of Boston Hab right now I would say I I actually got mistaken
For Merles the other night and I was pretty good shot for the ego I’ll tell you that after the Bruins game was waiting for the U with my cousin Kirk and dude walked by staring at me he’s like are you mer and I was like no but
I’ll [ __ ] take it Mer’s a [ __ ] handsome fella but I told him afterwards I was who I was actually but yeah with the Bees game the other night man put was he let down he’s like well no he’s like oh I goes It’s s oh yeah nice to
Meet you pal I was like call a lot worse than [ __ ] Ms over the is I’ll tell you that no he’s a handsome B oh I’d love to be mistaken for Merles I get like Michael Rapaport and other like horrible looking people constantly so mer would be a hell of a compliment to
That’s well that’s among a great thing about the addition of Merles and like also like the work he put in at uh in in gothamberg during the world junior is like just being able to have an extension of chicklets like go there and you know muck it up with the fans and
And and and some of the family members too he was hanging out with Will Smith’s dad who I think we met at the draft so Merles is the man and Mer has a vlog episode of chicklets TV coming out next week too will be out the 17th of January
And then and we’re dropping one this week with uh the Seattle trip yep that’ll come out Thursday at 6 PM this week yeah you can watch me get pneumonia in in real time a lot of good stuff with you and marshan Lynch though Biz it was hilarious conversation he’s a
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Vodka yeah boys already mentioned we got Will Smith from the US World Junior Team that just won Gold we also have Seattle goalie Joey dord uh couple of masss on great interviews they’ll comeing to you but Biz the big news your boy Willie Styles got paid looks like the rumor
Boys might have been on to something William neand has indeed been extended an 8year $92 million deal comes out to 11.5 million a year also has a full no move Clause uh he has a modified no trade clause for the rest of this season uh a lot of folks Biz don’t seem to
Think the Leafs are going to be able to keep these four forwards so neand is going to be signed through uh 2032 with this next deal Matthews will be signed through 2028 uh tarz only has one more left at 11 million man’s got one more left one more year left at 10.9 million
Can they do this business can they keep these four guys this season 40.5 million contracts next season it’s going to go up to 46.6 is it doable without losing any of these four no so I mean there’s a lot of things that dive into here okay so if you’re if
You’re starting with that one no there’s one more year with taras on the books and I actually think that next year with all these contracts is could be a potential down year but then you get JT off the book and my feeling on him is like hey man you were you were overpaid
More so than anyone if you came here to get the job done if he’s still you know at his age being productive as a third line centerman I think if you can bring him back for like [ __ ] Gano took two years at 850 come back and give a a a
Bro contract when you were kind of the anchor on the salary front that’s my opinion [ __ ] naner has been doing way more at 6.9 and I know that the contract like one was an unrestricted free agent one was restricted I get all that but I
Think that it was wise to sign him and keep him from a three-headed monster perspective because you’re talking about three of the top 20 players in the world you’re talking about guys who can actually Thrive and play in Toronto like what are you going to do roll the dice
That you bring in someone that good who can actually handle the heat of playing in Toronto and as far as him not taking a HomeTown deal I think the hometown deal was proba be there this summer at maybe 8times 11 a year but if that wasn’t offered to him and that’s maybe
What they wanted him taking then he’s going to say oh so I’m going into a prove it year and he’s six in the league and scoring like he’s saying the poster knock deal he’s like yeah that’s the comp but he also signed that before we knew that the cap was going up 4.2
Million well they knew it was going up but right but I would say that that was the comp right everybody’s talking about like the poock deal was the comp where where I think that you could say that that of of right now maybe more people
Would say I would want poock on my team based on every everything else but based on like a production and play standpoint I would say they’re they’re they’re dead even for this season and what they’re doing this season being the key word yes I can’t poock making less money than him
Is [ __ ] boners and and I agree and that’s what I think is is silly and and where I’m like oh god dude couldn’t you just have taken the poster deal like you know start even at 11 million like you know be that I still think that’s like a
Good guy contract if you would have taken 11 million where people would have been like oh God why you squeezing for that last nut right so that’s where why squeezing for that last nut but but but having to play in Toronto and endure the media and everything that goes with it I
Completely understand why none of these guys take a discount and on top of that it’s always this like let’s put the fan base against the players bro Austin we should be getting into the conversation of franchise tags where one of these guys per team could make up to $25
Million from the organization and it doesn’t go against the cap Austin Matthews is putting I I would say his value is about $75 million a year to what to the Toronto Maple EES brand think about the jump and franchise values and how many people pay attention and the merchandise
Sales he’s he’s on Pace to be the Great goal scorer to ever live right like if he stays healthy and and he’s as hungry as we think he is here think of what that does for like the New York Yankees of the NHL and he’s like being the bad
Guy for making 13 million and then he’s got to grind it out and not grind it out but I think that these guys could pull in between four and five million in advertising so now he’s making 18 million bucks to what the and I know we’ve kind of kind of gotten off the
Rails here but I think that the what I want to commend uh Brad tree living in them for not making a double error John Tas contract wasn’t Brad tree livings it’s to me it’s the anchor and now you got two 26 year olds and a 27 year olds
Locked in yes are there cap hits this year and next year looking good no but if the cap keeps going at what they are you got these three players that are top 20 in the league that knowing what it’s like to play in the market and aren’t
Phased by it which is a special thing in its own right then you then you got them locked up in their Prime and the Cap’s high enough where you can go work around them you don’t have the JT contract that that’s that’s that bad yeah you got [ __ ] that
You got to figure out they got to figure out like consistent goal tending do they got to solidify the defense in in the in the bottom two two lines yeah those are big things though yes no no I I get it they’re still work but buddy having having three Marquee players locked in
For their Primes isn’t a bad problem to have that’s a that’s a problem that a lot of [ __ ] teams would want to have and and if they go on to when did Obie win his cup 30 years old8 30 years old they were saying the same [ __ ] about the Caps forever okay
But they didn’t panic and deviate from the plan they got but they didn’t have four guys trying to get single I’m not but you’re you you you this is [ __ ] chess not checkers you can’t all of a sudden move off one of these guys cuz you got taras for one more year after
This year you’re looking beyond that and then the Caps way more to playoff and then from a percentage standpoint you’re not getting dinged dinged that bad from a cap perspective I agree with you guys th this year I think you’re in better shape than next year it’s kind of like
The amnesty buyouts with the Minnesota Wild next year you’re getting [ __ ] bent over because between those four contracts and Morgan Riley you’re talking in like 60% of the cap so you’re like oh God but then all of a sudden when John taras 11 and a half comes off
The books and then the cap goes up another four and a half and this is assuming that you’re going to get Marner locked in at 12 million bucks let’s say he doesn’t take any type of Hometown discount you’re probably looking at 12 a half okay where it’s like that’s worst
Case scenario that’s that that can’t happen he cannot make another million a year dude Biz the problem the problem with all of this is that all these Stanley Cup champions and it goes back to Crosby and let’s get into him later it goes back to
Why why do you need to take every nickel and dime and as a former player I I can’t believe what I’m saying because I want everyone to get paid but there is no difference between signing for 84 million and 92 million which mind you
The 11 and A2 for 8 years 92 million for neander what number did his dad wear okay okay I say okay so fair wi so what’s happened is what what I said earlier is they’ve tried to Peg us against the player for being bad for taking the money that’s what the [ __ ]
Problem is man these guys are think if you pulled all these other guys underground around the league they would be kissing these guys feet because they’re they’re raising the bar for them oh yeah so from a player to player standpoint they’re like yeah you might not win anything and it’s
Going to be a lot harder and there’s going to be a lot more pressure on your back because you boys have now taken away from maybe getting that better third line Center could who could have helped you in a time of need sure but I don’t I can’t blame these guys for
Taking what they’re taking and and another thing too is is what are you going to do if you’re [ __ ] KNE laner they may just sweat it out by not maybe paying you maybe he would have taken 11 million before the season started and then when you put me through you know
Four months of stress in Toronto in in front of this media in this market to be sixth in League scoring no man you’re going to cover my [ __ ] Screaming Eagle and PJ uh money for the next eight years in the off season because you made
Me sweat it out and he’s having a nice bottle of screaming eagle with his old man right now because he probably told him the same he’s like [ __ ] you man they made you sweat it out go get it and I I can’t blame them for that because
They’re as long as they keep delivering nander he outperformed the last contract and I would say you could probably say he’s been of the three the most consistent and best player in playoffs at least he was last year and that’s not even taking anything away from Matthews
I just thought that neander was better and and Matthews might have been a little banged up so I know we’re kind of getting into the weeds and I completely agree with everyone everyone saying that you it can’t be done it would have to be unprecedented to pull it off but
To to make a double error by not bringing by Marner Matthews and neander two of them being secured because you got stuck with one more year of the JT deal I think that’s not seeing the forest through the trees and I and I commend the tree living for getting it
Done and and securing a an absolute stallion in the market so that’s it that’s what I feel so tavar I mean tarez is on Pace for like you know 75 points say he does that next year not a bad idea to think that maybe they can get him on a
Threeyear deal for four and a half a year if he doesn’t take some to type of Hometown discount to help them out I think that’s when I’m like all right man you don’t like Bro you’ve made your money you you hit the top of the market you’re now in your hometown you’re the
Captain of the team and you ain’t going to be leading it these horses that are neander Marner and Matthews they’re the the horses you can provide that leadership you can sit in your msca [ __ ] cabin every summer you probably got 50 racks in in the bank and you got
A nice place in maybe near Yorkville I don’t know he’s chilling I think that that’s where the discount has to come and so go ahead no I’m I’m I’m thinking like the the Leafs are for sure in a tough spot here with the were in a tough
Spot with Neil andry he had all the leverage but if I’m sitting there I’m like why like why do you deserve more than David posano like what it wasn’t like his deal was signed three years ago it was last year dude like and and in the end it’s you’re sitting
Around there and you’re just wondering as as tree living probably did like why are you nickel and Diamond us for the very end of this to get to 11 and a half and and in the end it started when tarez got his and then Matthew got his and
Then when Nobody ends up taking a deal this is what happens and you look at this team they’re not winning the Stanley Cup like let’s be honest B they they’re they’re not winning I I think chip in a chair you never know when a goalie can get hot we saw that last year
I think they have the capabilities to come out of the East I think the East is very unpredictable do I think do I think that they have this magic formula that’s like like battle tested in playoffs no like would I take the Winnipeg Jets in the way that they kind of operate over
What they yeah it’s more consistent like they play better team structure like if you lose one guy it’s not taking a huge piece away yeah like I but they I think that their their next year as I said could be a down year based on the severity and I wrote down the contract
So uh the Five Guys right so I’ve kind of compared around the league and especially to the last two Stanley Cup champions I go back to Vegas and then Colorado and obviously their percentage of the cap to their top five guys being played like it’s it’s lower like right
Now uh it’s a lot lower 54 million is where the Leaf’s at uh 39.4 is where the Vegas golden knights are at so that’s a [ __ ] big chunk of d right now now Vegas has some guys that will have to end up being paid so this is just based
On what you’re seeing right now but then uh also like Colorado I think they’re at they’re at 43 million or just under 44 so 41% of the team’s cap where um I think that even going to next year I think with the salaries that are still
Around it would be like 48% or even close to 50% of the Leaf’s cap invested into five guys but that also drops drastically as we keep mentioning once taras comes out the books but then you got Morgan Riley at 7even and a half Matthews at 13.25 you got neander 11.5 and then
Assuming that this is with um Marner at 11 so if Marner so if this summer they want9 he’s at this summer they want to reup Marner right yeah and they go to him and they say here here’s neanders deal sign it now you got another year of
Your your current deal sign this one are you telling me that that that you accept if he like that that he could be like no no I don’t want it I don’t want that oh I think it would be shitty I think it would be shitty if he didn’t take it
Yeah because I think that a that’s where I want to see I think it becomes I don’t know yeah like and that’s another thing too here it’s like before you have to go into this kind of prove it year it’s like hey man this is a very healthy eight years you’re going
To be signing bonus front loaded here just like you know neander got and also like right now I think as it sits Marner is like 27th in scoring so if if if if finishes off where he’s you know 20 points ahead on the scoring chart when
You’re like here’s the same deal and he doesn’t want to sign it yeah I think he’s not being a great guy but okay see in the end it’s really hard being a former player and like judging anyone for getting every single penny that you’re worth but then like on the
Analyst side of it you just look at former Stanley Cup winning teams and you look at guys willing to take a little less and it all goes back to at the end of your career I don’t think 10 to20 million makes that much of a difference nander
Is going to make 150 million 145 million at the end of this you’re telling me if you make $1 1228 million you’re like are you changing where you’re going to dinner are you staying at cheaper hotels it it’s like it’s like how how much do
You want to win and then how much do you want to make every maximum dollar possible for you to make I agre that’s the great question wait I I agree with you and it’s like you see the Patrice bons and the Brad Marsha and the guys from from a cultural standpoint who have
Done it man like I commend those guys like that’s why I said this franchise tag needs to happen where it’s like Pittsburgh should be paying at for the last couple years Crosby as a franch tag player 25 million as kind of this like buddy he we’re talking about like
Remember when LeBron was making 50 million and he was carrying the league he kind of still is he should be making 250 million based on what these franchise values and the people tuning in because of certain players the same goes for for McDavid the same goes for
Matthews and then a handful of guys as far as who’s carrying it all and um what you said is very true in terms of like the way after the season was cancelled and when the cap came in what has happened is unfair to players in a sense
That it makes them look like the bad guys that’s what I’m saying we’ve been psychologically programmed for that to happen where it’s like the next CBA wi if the if if I’m Conor McDavid Leon dyle uh Austin Matthews get the [ __ ] dogs in there buddy when Adam Silver when he
Has like stuff he wants to talk about he’ll like call LeBron and consult that’s from what I hear I might be completely speaking off cuff here but I’m pretty sure that goes down I feel like there should be a relationship like that between the the the the
Commissioner and the top dog players and they the commissioner works for the owners and this but I understand but I think that we’re at a place where players have done a good job sacrificing where there can be a smart give back here like a smart you have to and and and you also
You want to keep those that’s why the big dogs have to get together and they have to stand next to each other and yeah maybe get a little vocal and maybe it doesn’t even need to get to that point based on the success and how the league is thriving and especially if you
Want these Austin Matthews McDavid and these other top dogs to maybe be a little bit more emotionally invested in the pr and the the office and showing more Charisma we [ __ ] pay him for it like maybe as part of that package as being the franchise tag it’s like maybe
There’s a little bit more access to be had I don’t know but I just I I just don’t picture like I’m with you I just don’t picture the owners giving into anything and it’s like billionaires end up winning these guys like they won’t be they won’t be backed down and and in the
End like they had such a win getting this cap and and getting everything done the way it happened whatever it is 9 years how long ago was that and guess as a result as a result the league is thriving they set up a good foundation
And I think from as far as the pendulum swinging I think that most players and and people can see that it should be maybe time to to swing it back just a little bit like escrow nah I don’t think we need escrow you know would be a nice
Legacy play for for like the for the owners maybe provide insurance for everybody who played and and what would the cost of that be claw that back a little bit maybe they do get this franchise tag but there’s more there to to to to give back especially to the
Players that are growing the game like there’s a handful of guys that are like they’re doing some heavy lifting am I crazy here am I speaking no and and and one thing that that AR mentioned um to us before the episode and it’s a great I
Don’t know how this is going to go down and Marty Walsh has brought it up well FAS paid 500 million to get in the league Seattle paid 650 what the is going to be the cost there’ll be two more teams and I think we’ll be the
First team pro league to 34 teams and I think each of those will go for a billy and I don’t is there any chance that the PA can get a little tiny sliver of that can and and and owners are going to say no [ __ ] chance take a hike kick rocks
But at some point you would think like with where this league is going and and how successful everything’s been and the game’s better than ever that you got to hook up these guys a little bit more and I’m not saying like any of these guys should be crying poor the only problem
That really I look at is it has created this crazy Division and I remember years ago I don’t know if it was Mark wcky or someone was an old veteran was telling me it’s just going to turn into the guys the superstars make a ton and then
There’s the guys at the bottom not making a lot not making a lot relative Pro Sports terms and there’s not much Middle Ground anymore and that’s what’s happening and that’s why it’s like in a in a in a in the perfect world there’d be more guys in the middle and that’s
What’s disappearing yeah I mean sure you know what I’m saying no I I I get you maybe I don’t I don’t know how to solve that problem I but I’m but I’m saying that Conor McDavid is the most powerful player in hockey since Wayne Gretzky I
Think we can all agree on that what he does for the Crosby okay but okay uh from in the way that currently you mean because he’s younger and sits like on the back nine yeah like you know I would I would say that Wayne Gretzky would
Admit at a a certain he got to a certain age where he passed the torch over to Lemieux to kind of carry the league from that standpoint right no disrespect to Sid but I’m saying is if okay let’s say Sid Matthews and McDavid got if they got
Together I think that their voice would be powerful enough where all the things that you’re talking about and and clawing back I think that that be because of I think at the time when like Wayne was involved like it was easier for them to get stuff right because he had that much
Impact am I crazy talking here no I because I I think the players are getting more leverage than they ever had at the same time the owners have have been bullying them for a 100 years in this league there’s no no doubt about that that’s not going to change that’s
Kind of what I’m saying like what when will that all of a sudden change course because I think that it’s becoming so lucrative that that the the move that they can make next next will seem so astronomical to the players when in reality we’re going to be looking
Looking back in 10 years and the franchise values might be worth twice the amount like they have to they have to at some point understand that this is being done off the backs of Conor McDavid Austin Matthews and Sydney Crosby think about this one think about
Uh oetkin and you know I know he’s being paid handsomely and has been in the past but let’s say he doesn’t break the goal record under this circumstance and the new CBA is written where you can get a franchise tag do you know how much organizations would be willing to pay to
Him wear the jersey in which he B breaks the most goals ever scored why should he be able to be compensated for that like that that is such a [ __ ] huge moment for our game think of the value the Regina Pats and I know they ended up
Making playoffs but going back to the WHL last year he didn’t trade Conor Bard he could have [ __ ] got remember we had the guy told the story about the bus he could have got deal in the WHL it’s like he could have asked for the [ __ ]
Next 5 years draft picks and the team bus and to crush the [ __ ] owner’s old lady and they would have got it like that’s how much value that he I know you am I being too much was that too much out of pocket there with sorry Budd um I
Mean it was Connor badar the guy points a game that’s what I’m saying okay maybe we should okay I get uh but the value that he had being drafted first overall as a Regina Pat that was valuable to his organization and forever you know if he ends up being a Crosby
They’ll o the rushi oceanic the there’s brand value there and that’s what that’s kind what do you got what do you got R uh Whit I think it’ll change when the union has uh everyone unanimous the word we tried to come up with that ever
Happen in any Union R very seldom but I think if you have over 90% I I think sometimes historically there’s been too much division within the nhlpa you know cuz the like some guys want to make their money now other guys don’t want to sacrifice for people fur the down the
Line cuz they might not be making a lot of though uh you know this current CBA expires uh in September 26 Marty Walsh did said we’re we’re going to ask for these fees I think the owners going to laugh in their face because why you know they think that’s their money but why
Should it just be their money when it’s all about the players too that that’s what I don’t really understand why they get all of those fees it it doesn’t make sense to me yeah and we’re talking and and I’m and I’m in a sense chirping players about what’s the difference at the end
Of your career if you make 110 or 130 like the times that by 400 with these guys yeah the owner [ __ ] families are in generational greedy greedy oh you sh the you’re a boot lecker no doubt about that I agree I but but as bis said and and Alan Walsh had a
Good tweet they they they this cap created a way where the players are the bad guys and that’s been the discourse that’s unfortunate to see is like yeah these guys are getting paid a taunt and if you want to win a cup I have an opinion that you take a little less but
In the end if they take as much as they can get and and fans are all over them it’s like the owners W in that in that aspect because they ended up making them look like Bad Dudes when they really aren’t and and the owners are worth
Billions so I I think that oie Sid I forgot oie out of this group of guys too when I was mentioning the the you forgot the Nate Dog cuz they’ll come in there no that’s what I’m saying like I’m not there’s a plenty of guys I said like 15
20 guys could get together and really kind of get ahead of this and make this their legacy play and and to you said oh the top guys just kind of the bar gets higher and then the the the the Lesser players kind of get left crumbs make make the league minimum where it’s
Bumped up more so than than it ever has been like I think right now man it’s not bad if league minimum is what like 950 a million bucks not bad when you’re [ __ ] flying around on private jets and [ __ ] like I you know what I’m saying
Well the other the other part we didn’t bring up is um if if you’re playing in Florida making 9 N and a half so like Matthew kachuck will actually make more money per year net make a 9 and A2 then neander will make an 11 and A2 in
Ontario so that that’s another aspect where teams in Massachusetts California New York Ontario like you got to pay more because guys can go down south and they can go to Vegas and they can go to Nashville or well the PRS are a little different but you can make more money
With a way lower aav in a non tax state and you’re not deal the to the Leaf’s point back to the Leafs like yeah one more year tarz you got to get Marner signed I don’t know what’s going to happen there but but in terms of a
Stanley Cup team they don’t have it right now they don’t have a defense that you win a Stanley Cup with and and so as a as a Leafs fan you’re all fired up that you got this core in there for the next five years till Matthews Deal’s
Done but I want to see it if I’m a lead fan I want to see a well-rounded balanced team and when you’re paying this few guys this much money as a fan you’re like I I don’t see how we’re going to compete at the level of Vegas
At the level of Colorado and and that’s what’s I think frustrating for some of these fans even though the the sentiment I got was people were excited and fired up that the deal got done yeah I think one one more thing with escrow should be a non-starter if the owners even
Mentioned that word the fun should just walk out like this that could be the reason for a lock out and I don’t think there’ll be one and but the escrow thing enough yeah especially what the players have dealt with since Co and the payback and like it’s like guys can we get rid
Of the escrow [ __ ] joke Marty Walsh Marty w is going to you know it’ll be a it’ll be a good test right the guy’s been a part of unions forever let’s let’s see how it all goes down we’re far we’re far enough away but Lewis gross ends up getting neander those two those
The possible year of the lockout when it ends isn’t his signing bonus 10 million that year bis I I saw the contract but I think I think uh I think 60 something might be being paid in signing bonus see that’s what other teams can’t do that the Leafs can so that’s the
Thing I don’t know if you’ve already said it and I I was I was tuned out you said that Matthew kachuck will net more than what William neander does N9 and a half in Florida will net you more than 11 and a half in in Ontario yeah I mean no tax versus
Whatever 40% uh Hey M mik You know what last thing talk about deserving it yes right the guy went out Biz said it he’s balled out on a make or break season so he’s a rich rich man and let’s see what the Leafs do in the playoffs I I think
And and the last thing I’ll say is I think they’ll have a a really nice three-year window after the Taris deals up and agreed with you on all fronts there’s a lot of issues but it’s never bad to have three [ __ ] Marquee Superstars going into their Prime locked
In for an organization who can face the music of Toronto like we saw bruzi come over with the success he had in Boston it’s it’s not always so easy to play in a tough market right I’m not saying the books out on him like who knows maybe he
Has a great back half and he [ __ ] lights it up great playoff whatever three guys who can play in a tough Market Let’s Go Leafs Baby W wo what maybe M will get a couple of the sav Hill boys with a couple leg Breakers when they go to the table I’m a little
Bit more optimistic than you guys about I think I don’t think there’s going to be a lockout I don’t I don’t I was just saying like he brought up the escrow it’s like that’s one thing where you you would like to see player sa no no changes there no escrow all right boys
Time to talk about the United States absolutely dummed Sweden on Friday 6 to2 for their sixth World Junior title wh this team is just getting better and better every year are they even with the Canadians right now or do they need another tournament to so to be even I’m
Talking about the young guys here ah are you talking about the junior players or best on best uh the junior guys like this this age level I mean after this tournament with Bard and Fant Tilly not there obviously I think the higher end Talent um and and the and the
Top end Talent Canada has and even best on best like McKinnon McDavid Crosby marar okay but it is now as even as it’s ever been and the the thing about it that’s so exciting for me and all USA hockey fans out there is I think 10
Years from now I think we’re heads and shoulders above them and my main reason for that is the entire population and the size of the United States and never before has the entire country been used and obviously still now there’s states that don’t have big hockey programs or
Hockey programs at all but growing up and before me it was Minnesota it was Massachusetts it was Michigan it was New York like that was pretty much it there’s 350 million people in the United States we we got Brinley growing up in Florida we got Sheamus Casey Florida we
Got Z buam in California all of a sudden now and thanks to uh Wayne Gretzky originally coming over we talked about that in the Christmas episode we got the Arizona Coyotes forming and all of a sudden Austin Matthews is from Arizona now all of a sudden the country is
Getting players from everywhere and the fact of the matter is it’s only going to continue it’s only going to get stronger and it’s only going to get bigger so you’re telling me in 10 years when there’s more players when you I mean look at this kid Mason lowai from
Louisiana on the Bruins all of a sudden states are producing players and it never happened before and so just based on our population alone like heads up where USA Hockey going because it’s gotten better it’s gotten bigger and stronger the national program has been exactly what they thought it would be
And and it took a long time right like this is a 20year thing like 98 it happened and all of a sudden now you’re seeing these other states and these players and before the best athletes in America didn’t play hockey and granted that’ll still never change because of
Price I think and and football and basketball being easy to play and not nearly as as as expensive so they’ll always be part of that but there are way more Elite level athletes who 30 years ago never even would have considered hockey that now all of a sudden the
Florida Panthers going on a run last year you’re telling me there wasn’t an 8-year-old kid that got into it that wants to play hockey and his friends and him start playing and one of them turn into a stud So based on population alone it’s not really a brag like we should be
Better than Canada but it’s finally coming to fruition where you’re using the entire country USA hockey’s done an incredible job with Grassroots in all these different markets NHL teams going there is a big part of it so now USA Hockey it’s a wagon and and it’s not
Slowing down this isn’t like oh we’ve e you know we’ve evened out here and we’re going to continue like this no this is an upward Trend and and Canada will always be great and the best on best tournament will be incredible we’re going to be there I don’t care where it
Is I don’t care when it is we’re going to be there I need to be there with my face painted red white and blue but the fact of the matter is we’re getting players from non-traditional hockey markets and that will only continue to grow even more so it’s an amazing time
To be a USA hockey fan and it’s an amazing thing to see because all these kids that would have played baseball that would have played Hoops that just put the skates on learned to skate and love the game it’s only going to help the the the the US Hockey program and I
Just love it and and what an effort by those kids I mean they were the favorites and they went in and they dominated the closest game they had was that Czech game and and Shout Out Czech and Slovakia those two teams they’ve done a hell of a job countries as well
That was one of the takeaways from uh yeah from the Will Smith interview didn’t he talk about was it the Swiss he talk nor or Norway Norway yeah and just like how how much these other countries are coming up too and that you know it’s it’s all about the access they’re having
And and how the game’s growing G were you were going to step in and say something yeah I was just going to ask Biz I we kind of touch on it briefly in the Smith interview but do you think Canada will start like a development program like the United States has
Because that’s that’s been so big for USA Hockey yeah so that’s why it’s great having these young kids talking about the program and went you went through it as well just like how he was saying like you’re you’re basically going through like a military setup where you’re
Getting up every morning you’re going to training and you’re getting on the ice every day with the best players in the country so it’s not like maybe in junior in the OHL where okay I I get to go against our our our fifth or sixth defenseman here in the 101s it’s like
Iron sharpening iron every day pushing you in the gym their Obsession becomes your obsession and you’re like-minded people chasing the NHL and you’re learning the fundamentals of not only just like the the skill aspect of it the the weight training but the mental toughness and grind of it like there’s
No there’s no escaping it and Will Smith talked about how it was hard and Whit I I’m sure it was the same for you the first like two three months you almost didn’t go that first year okay you almost and I remember talking to all the
Guys I went for just my senior year and they are like last year man and and and Will Smith goes into to it it it’s just it’s such it’s so new and so hard from what you’ve done that you’re like holy [ __ ] and I think guys are homesick but
It it’s a probably a grind and a half and he talks about it I and I and I even use the example of when I went to North Bay as a 16-year-old as a second round draft pick they were allowed two 16-year-olds at that time I didn’t talk
To my parents for the full first month that I was away because I’m like holy [ __ ] like this is like I felt like it was military now you’re telling me these guys are dealing with that starting what at 16 15 what age does that program
Start it would be um you’d be turning 17 like throughout the season okay around around the same age I never felt like quitting because I was so obsessed with it but it’s a lot to experience as a as a young man but the fundamentals it sets from like even going into the Summers
Like I would never I wouldn’t miss training like I wasn’t taking training off I was going Monday to Friday and I was chucking weights and doing whatever I had to do for the full two and a half hours now I’m sure sure that your first
Year though wi it was still hard like it was still an adjustment right oh yeah oh yeah but but like he goes into the fact of the matter is now they’re they’re doing school online like it was a great feeling to be able to go to school out
There now I went to I went from the academy there’s 100 kids in my grade to Pioneer High School where I I think there was 900 kids in my senior class at Pioneer High so for me it’s like just a culture shock but you still get that six
Hours at school you know you’re meeting girls from an ARB it’s just a little different now these kids like talk about an eye openening like tough start you go out there you go from High School freshman sophomore year you’re a junior and you’re no longer around any other
Students or or normal kids in quotations you’re just with your teammates you’re just in the gym you’re on the ice twice a day I’m sure the online school system isn’t exactly like rockberry Latin and that’s a hell of a prep school around here in terms of schoolwork but but but
In the end that’s what makes you the player you become and and and those are the sacrifices that you have to make and so at times it sucks but I think in 10 years a lot of these kids look back and they’re like [ __ ] thank God I did that
Look at what it turned me into absolutely so to go back to your question G like I would I think it would be good to have it the junior teams don’t want it because they want that highend Talent playing in their leagues it would ruin Junior Hockey it would
Ruin Junior Hockey but the the concept of of of the workouts and all that is thing is one thing but the practicing against the best in the ironing sharpening IR that’s where I feel that the USA has the advantage and why they might in the future start producing more
And more and more top tier Talent like I think that that’s something from in in from an Olympic perspective they could end up becoming more dominant than Canada for that reason now not to be hyperbolic about it like Canada did have what two or three guys who were eligible
Like Conor Bard could have been playing I think they had more I they so you know best on BET let’s not get carried away where just like this Juggernaut and that they’re Canada’s not that’s why right now I’m saying even and even top end Talent like we don’t have a
McDavid I I I would say we have a mar and Quinn Hughes even though I think Mar I think I think 32 GMS if they have their choice between Quinn Hughes and marar taking marar but Quinn Hughes is right there but mcdavid’s another level McKinnon’s kind of another level but
Jack Hughes Austin Matthews like it’s even I’m saying in 10 years 15 years I don’t think it will be dude I and maybe it’s 20 to 25 years but it’s sheer population alone so it’s not really talking [ __ ] it’s just it’s a numbers game numbers game and and it’s an
Amazing thing to see as a USA Hockey Alum love it but the tournament was so fantastic and Shout Out Sweden they hosted a great tournament and those guys got their revenge and Will Smith goes into this we appreciate him coming on but uh I love watching World Juniors I
Hope that we’re at the I don’t know about next year but we definitely got to go to the one in Minnesota in two years yeah want to go to I think it’s been talked about a little bit uh Army is the most aggressive guy in the group
Chat about it the reing I don’t think that’s something that’s going to change it’s always going to be shitty it might get worse yeah just like because in terms of like calling the game soft the IHF isn’t going to turn around it would only continue to get even worse you know
We we saw the worst penalty call of all time on that Swiss kid at the end of the game against swed the spear he literally just tapped him with his stick they first gave him a 5minute major for spearing and then still held on and gave him 2 minutes and
Like and luckily Sweden didn’t score on that but it It’s upsetting to watch games controlled by refs we talk about at the NHL level this is that on steroids man yeah it’s bad I was actually impressed Rucker mcgi um who another kid I I he was born in Nebraska
Like I he he ran over a Swedish player in the in the gold medal game they didn’t call it it was a clean hit but I I was surprised that one didn’t get called he’ll fit in great in Winnipeg he’ll be perfect there oh yeah yeah they
Jets man that call just yeah we at them shy that call just it still changes the whole trajectory of the game you know now you got to kill a penalty your energy is a little bit low it’s still a shitty call that that screws the team
Ultimately uh but we do got to tip out caps of the checks unbelievable down 52 late in the second you know losing by a goal with a minute and a half left come by come back to tie actually they W in regulation eight to [ __ ] five scored
The last six goals of the game wildly impressive stuff I just want to give them a little uh to beat Finland uh to beat Finland in the bronze medal game yeah yeah it is in Ottawa next year like you said it’s going to be back in uh
Minnesota area the Twin Cities in 2026 the second time they had it there they were actually the first US host way back in 1982 uh it’s going to be the 7th time it’s in the United States uh last time was in Buffalo in 2018 so with that said
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Slinder all right boys take two now now it’s finally time to bring on our next guest this Ford from down the street a little ways in Lexington Massachusetts is currently a freshman at Boston College and tied for second on the team at points back in June down Nashville he
Was taken fourth overall by the San Jose shocks and last Friday in Sweden he helped the US win its sixth world junior Championship thanks so much for joining us on the spit and chickens podcast Will Smith congratulations brother still buzzing from the win or what yeah it’s
Been uh crazy couple days it’s it’s been it’s kind of been blowing up so it’s uh it’s pretty cool H how did the celebration go down after like I’m guessing the flight was the next day the boys get to have a night in gothenberg I know you’d been there for so long but
How how did it all go down that night right after yeah I mean so we had uh there was like a bunch of media and stuff after the games but guys were like all right like short short answers let’s go let’s get out of here um and then
They had to send out our bus uh our bus time just to make sure everyone uh knew what time in the morning they had to get out of there but um after that we just went to the hotel and then what time did you finally get off the bus and like to
The hotel rooms to change to get out get out and hit the town like a decent hour well we got back at like probably 11:30 12 to the hotel and our all the parents were there and they kind of hung out there for a bit and then we were told
Not to wear any USA stuff because I meany we were getting like DMS and stuff like some people weren’t Happy sweding from the whole like from the end of the stuff yeah wow so in that end of the game your DM threatening you [ __ ] hotel
[ __ ] it went smoke show want to meet up hey I want to kill you smoke show where you going Swedish guy I’m going to stuff you into my locker so I can imagine the DMS yeah free table at Cafe Oprah if you show up I want you
Dead at the end of the game though Lane Hudson got involved like what what went down there that was kind of them starting it a little bit wasn’t it yeah it was like I don’t even know cuz it’s kind of just started at the blue line there’s a whistle and then next thing
You know there’s just a scruffle and then um I think snug two guys had snugs and then Hudson got in there and he already got high stick so he’s already leaking yeah and Miss call by the way didn’t even call it yeah and then they
Review that but um so then he got in there and then I mean the kid was like had like five inches on him and he’s still what what do you mean you don’t know what started it Ryan Leonard was blowing kisses in the front row to the Swedish players girlfriends that’s what
[ __ ] got it all going that c you got to accept that when you lose you got to you got to lose you got to lose you get embarrassed you lost it’s it he’s given the he blowing the kisses to the wives Lounge for crying out loud yeah that was
Unbelievable what what brought him to do that were you boys cackling when when you saw him give the kiss to the front row well we like at at school whenever we go to an away away rank he’s always like oh if I score I’m going right to
The student section and like giving him something so like we knew if he scored he was going to do something that’s a common theme wa did you did you play with any guys in college that did that but Leonard’s from Springfield dude land of Frankie vrono those western Mass
Guys they’ll do anything trash buckets they just run around with try trying to kill people they get Springfield tattooed on their quad like vetrano so I’m not surprised at all I mean Leonard’s a dog out there he’s probably looking to piss people off constantly fans or players yeah I mean half the
Time uh we’re just like in the middle the play we just hear the crowd going nuts and like guys like screaming and of course it’s him he’s like on the ground with someone like rolling around it’s like well hey bis mentioned um his under 18s and that kind of goes back to yours
And I know you were playing up you and lonard were playing up with maybe the was are you are you an 0 05 yeah so you were playing with the 04s you guys got the call up but that 04 team they lost to Sweden in the gold medal in under 18
So you heard go gothier and Hudson saying they stole it from us do you remember that game like how did that game go it must have been heartbreaking for the guys who who weren’t able to come back the next year like you and Leonard yeah I mean well you said about
The celebration I mean they scored an empty net and they were right in front of our bench celebrating so it’s like those guys are pretty fired payback oh yeah that that was a that was a big Revenge game for the especially for our 04s that were in Germany but that was a
That was that feels like forever ago I mean yeah we played so I’ve played Sweden in a gold medal game three years in a row so it’s like it used to be Canada growing up that I would watch it would always be US Canada or something
Like that but now kind of switched to uh Sweden I I’m a little naive to how the whole the pro program goes and everything but of the team that was assembled this year with winning the gold medal were you familiar with every guy that was on the roster or when
You’re getting there from college are there certain guys that you’ve never like played with or even met I mean we knew probably 95% of team we had three OHL guys so um besides I mean maybe two but we met them in the summer so it was like um we’ve met them
Before but besides that we knew everyone very well so as soon as you got there do you feel like this group in particular you guys jelled all right away like not little clicks off it was like more of a team every everywhere you guys did and
And and went definely I think because I mean there was a bunch of program guys but I mean even that we didn’t they weren on the program they were always with us so it was like it didn’t really matter where I mean we had those three
OHL guys but um they were with us no matter what so it was kind of clicked as soon as we got there who who inside the locker room was maybe like the loudest guy like maybe the the most vocal leader or or or the on the other end maybe like
The clown of the team was there was there anyone that stuck out in terms of how loud they were in the room you always need a you always need a guy doing the Manina to get the boys going in the locker room every time need a
Jester Biz that’s why we had a chance at St Louis the jesters yeah uh I mean obviously we have mcor who is our captain but I mean a guy that kind of stood up was brenley I mean he he had an A but I mean he was so respected to
Locker that everyone listened to him um and and obviously we had a team clown and that was proba Z boam okay so I wanted to ask about him he seems I I I can I can picture that now but an undrafted um player he’ll be a high pick
This year I think Super skilled huh I was reading he grew up in California his parents used to drive him like two hours to practice like his whole story is interesting in terms of becoming an elite player but what type of guy is he just always goofing around but because
His game is is is no joke dude he’s walking the line like lrom used to yeah know he so he kind of flew on the radar I mean because he didn’t get drafted um and obviously he’s going to be high picked this year but oh he could have
Been drafted last year no no no he couldn’t like because it was our draft year and he was the only guy on our team who had a a late a late birth year um so I mean he doesn’t come from a hockey family like that I mean his brother was
Drafted to the Red Wings um and then you followed him to Denver they’re there right now together but I mean off the ice he’s one of my best friends we were roommates at ntdp um on the road so we have just a just a funny bastard I could tell by the smirk on
Your face that you probably can’t repeat all these jokes that he’s telling you nonstop hey yeah has 300 stories we can’t get one of them that to me was the the most special thing that I got to take away from under 18 playing with not only special players that went on to be
NHL stars but the fact that would have never never met them otherwise and how funny you end up finding out some of these guys are so those bonds and friendships that I took away from those tournaments was was what I remember most other than the gold medal not a big deal
Um but uh so that so that was the guy for you to spend time with that that that was the most enjoyable yeah I mean he’s like I said we were roommates so we’ve been together for a while now but I mean that’s what you just said was
Pretty true I mean there’s some guys that you go to summer camp and you’re like oh that kid is such a loser to play against and you finally meet him and in the together and he’s actually a beauty so what what about this other guy the
Guy who wore the belt buckle to the draft this the the the new Bugsy Malone the Iceman what is this guy’s deal he’s a weapon man he said to Emily Kaplan I’m the best looking guy in the tra and I’m chirping Russians for changing their birth certificates to seem a little bit
Younger this guy has to be 25 years old there’s no way he’s world junior age no he’s uh he’s one of a kind I mean he I mean you saw the whole show he put on at the draft so I mean he’s uh he’s pretty funny and he he gave himself that
Nickname The Iceman so that’s that’s kind of sticking now I heard to a couple GMS that he said if you don’t pull me in the first round then I’m going to bang your old lady and that’s why he ended up going no I’m Ser you hear you hear about
These stories of these these GMS and these teams meetings with the players that was the rumor coming out of of last year’s draft this guy was saying that type of [ __ ] so he’s got some [ __ ] big old 31st overall so the Tampa guys like got take I’m not I’m not getting
I’m not having my wife get stuffed by this kid well BS just mentioned Russia you happen to know any guys or any friendly with any of the guys that would have been on the Russian team this year had they had one uh I don’t know any of them
I know comp competitively if you might have played against any him at all you know at the draft mitov was in the seat right in front of me and we didn’t even I think we looked at each other once and that was about it once you went in front
Of him he’s like [ __ ] what kind of cologne was he wearing you had to have been able to smell it from where you were sitting he he showed he showed up like a minute before I was starting and with his two I think security guards andb showed up sat
Down and that was it love that so so back to the draft and and it goes into this us team obviously you go fourth Leonard then gets picked by the caps and and the whole time your guys your boy Gabe perau the other BC star freshman
Your line he’s kind of dropping a little bit and right when the Rangers took him it’s like Chris Drury hockey IQ guy and you had mentioned to me in Nashville this this kid’s awesome it wasn’t surprising to you to see him go first first round was it surprising to see
That he wasn’t picked a little sooner cuz he looks phenomenal yeah Ian for me definitely I mean I told teams out every interview in the combine like take this guy he’s gonna be he’s gonna be a stud so um I mean he was I think watching him slip
There was it was a little weird it was like who’s gonna who’s gonna be the team to get lucky here and I mean it’s when the Rangers got up there I knew they were going to take him just yeah um yeah they’re pretty lucky they got that what
What would have been the reason teams were like hesitant like is skating maybe not necessarily his strongest part of his game or like what are teams even looking at after lighting it up didn’t he break the record for points at ntdp yeah he’s he broke I think a couple
Different records there I mean I think he said that teams were just saying about it skating but yeah I don’t see over they’re overthinking it dude yeah why why maybe a little bit slower boots or bad boots I think they just thought he was a choppy skater I think that’s what he
Told me that that some teams were saying but I don’t I don’t really see it being a problem I will jumping back to the to the tournament uh the semies versus defense you guys are down two nothing after the first what was the mood in the
Room any Panic or you guys you know confident about what was going on I we we were panicking too much I mean obviously we knew finland’s like G to come out and just try to be physical and um I mean their two first goal were just kind of shitty little bounces that just
Didn’t work out but um second period we were flying and as soon as we got a couple really good gr A’s and we kind of knew is we’re going to take it over I I’m interested in the coach David Carl now I played with his brother Matt uh he
Wasn’t the Hobie Baker he was an incredible player and then from what I know David was playing and then he had some sort of health issue where he had to retire he gets into coaching immediately he’s already got a national title great setup in Denver I’d be
Shocked at some point if he’s not an NHL head coach but what what what’s he like as a guy is he is he is he chirping guys is he getting on guys back is he let you play like as a coach what was he like he
Was awesome I mean like you said he was he was like I’ve heard the story a couple times of he was a really good player and then obviously uh something happened where he had to stop playing so I think he kind of knows where we’re
Coming from when uh he’s on the bench I mean he was in our positions just not not long ago so um he wasn’t like he kind of let us go and let our let us play and keep the sticks in our hand but um he would get us fired up to four
Games too he’s he’s he’s one of the best coaches I did you did you notice a difference in the way that each country played and how different they played like from game to game were you guys being prepared for that and what to expect because you’re not really usually playing against these
These teams right like you just said like you expected the fins to be more physical like like I wouldn’t I wouldn’t have expected that more maybe than some other countries yeah I mean every country honestly like check we knew they were going to sit back in the neutral zone
And just clog everything up so we knew we had to kind of try to get it behind them and then Finland were trying to be physical and then um Sweden obviously likes to have the puck the most they can so they’re just hinging it back and
Forth in new Zone they’re only going to wait till it’s a perfect play so I think every time for a presc scout we knew what they were going to do what Their Tendencies are so um it actually does matter a lot of which country we’re playing well which country or country
Seem like poised to make a big jump inter nashley in the next few years and we’ve seen Germany and Switzerland the last few years any anyone maybe below them that looks like they’re getting a lot better like actually Norway was good this year I know they got relegated competing they
They gave us they gave us a game there the first game they were they were good just because of their skating and how they just all move I think I think that and the fact that they were so fired up to you know playoffs I mean it was our first game
Too and they came out flying and they I think they have some uh one kid who might go top 10 or something like that um so he he was pretty good too that was the other question I was going to ask you it’s like of of all the other teams
Like who is the best player that you saw on the ice and you’re like damn that guy’s going to have a hell of a career in the National League oh I mean obviously celebrini is gonna be pretty legit um but Sweden I mean lerach he was pretty good the whole
Tournament and um he had a big goal there at the end of the second period but um I mean his shot is ridiculous yeah that’s the guy Merles was talking about B just saying he scores from anywhere that leer Maki I think this I think this Sabers took them the Sabers
Got all these small smallish like forwards like they need some meat uh you brought up Merl I don’t think we’ve talked about the fact that Merl’s ended up meeting up with your old man over there before the gold medal game having a few Pops I shot a granelli a text and there
Was like all the USA dads are hanging out at the hotel so might as well give me his number I’ll give him my dad’s number and then they can go hang out and see what happens careful what you asked for USA dad next thing you know you’re
Face down on the sidewalk and Merles is talking about his parlay not going to count empty yeah mer is going to have to move into your place after uh spending that shift he did in gothamberg I think his old lady chains the locks to the
House mer is in in panty hose right now doing the dishes with a stiletto up his ass the dads though because they’re there for so long and they’re just watching their kids represent the country it’s probably so sick for them you must have seen there every morning
As the trip went on they must have been getting out of bed a little slower and slower no were they just ripping it the whole time oh it was ridiculous every morning we’ check our phones and it would be like we’re just getting videos and like where they were like where were
You guys last night yeah it was crazy they’re like oh we’re in Denmark tonight we just hopped on a train they got their tracksuits on they’re like we told them we played for Team USA they let us in they’re like NHL dad’s trip [ __ ] that were at the world juniors for 4
Weeks oh that’s so good that is so well be honest how much did you cringe when you heard our fresh prince of b a song well mostly Whit singing it how bad was that oh I mean you could see on when uh they asked me to sing it on TV I was
Like right now oh yeah you were you were disgusted but I was like yeah are you talking about at the draft when he was walking up after you got picked Oh I thought that was pretty cool asking you to sing it asking to sing it that’s a no
No that could be a singing part the singing part that that’s what I was talking about it’s a lose lose because even if you sing it it’s going viral and you’re going to look like like you you’re in a no win there yeah hey uh speaking of going viral we got to bring
Granelli on right now he did that locker room tour with you at uh at BC and that thing popped off and we’re getting coaches saying that they’re having uh uh recruits commit because of these videos now I mean it’s true I mean growing up we would always watch like with college
Hockey locker and whatever but there was never anything like that was really in depth or really any like good videos so I think now that these videos are all going to be coming out that kids are just going to be sitting at home watching these videos and that’s how
They get to familiar familiar with these schools which rank do you think we should go to next I heard you’re a big fan of playing at eain you thought that was pretty wild yeah you got you got to go there for a game it’s crazy place is unbelievable you mentioned about uh
Leonard always kiss into the student section who’s got the nastiest student section like are they like are they throwing daggers at you guys they were they they said whatever they wanted up there um they they said some absurd stuff to our goalie no I mean oh it’s
Maine they don’t even have like teeth and [ __ ] oh yeah I mean my M there was like condoms flying from the stands like my mom was on the bottom was like she’s like grab one will please like you you used ones are just new I hope I hope the there’s new ones
Jesus well I don’t know I I never went to college all I heard is like it’s just like yeah just horn horny people just buzzing around just you never know speaking of student sections um KY Forum were boss the college place like it’s pretty big building and like at times
Maybe the atmosphere is a little empty but this year it’s been rocking I remember seeing clips of when you guys played Denver early in the year and I was told I don’t know if you’re sure like apparently they changed the rules this year where students can just go
Until it’s full as opposed to like needing tickets but the atmosphere there has been nuts huh yeah they had they had the change of rules just for this year because of how many people are coming um like we’ll before we like us the players get to the games we’re walking out the
Stairs the line’s already started outside the rank um and they said it’s never been like this before and Denver was absurd they it was a full it was a blackout in the stands we before warm-ups it was sold out really yeah it was it was crazy I me we end up losing
But well apparently they also sell booze there now where beu was the only School Biz that was selling beer and I think now like all the schools have changed BC included which just you’re going to get you’re going to get more people naturally if you can have a beer watch
The game yeah oh yeah they started a bunch of stuff like um I mean before the year they were like we want to start tailgating the hockey game so they started um well my my mom wanted to get get that going and obviously all the parents be able to meet up before the
Game so they had uh tailgates under the football stadium to start the year Jesus how was that I no outside of hockey how was your first semester of college how’d it go it was I mean coming from the program so was obviously online now so it’s completely different from uh when
Whit was there when you guys were at school but um so it’s we do school at the ring so now going to class it was a little bit a little bit different of making sure you get there on time and so you don’t have to go any classs
At all you’re saying that you didn’t have to go now you’re having to attend the classes yeah oh so wow it’s an adjustment how much sleeping is going on in class cuz when I went to Davenport University and yes that’s a real that’s a real University I was playing in the
OHL at the time and I would get there within five minutes I was sleeping the entire class I couldn’t stay awake some mornings are tougher than others to uh even get to class but have you picked a major yet yeah Communications oh yeah sick you’re gonna have a podcast in a
Couple years yeah B go Bango hey with the communications major we mentioned perau earlier that usually means you have to take a theater class I heard you and gab took a theater class and you guys might have been in charge of like building the whole set nice oh they’re
In the crew it actually is pretty funny because I mean we’re in we’re going to school here and then um during the day we’re at music class and theater class and we’re sitting there and we have a game the night that night and the whole
School is going to be there so it’s it’s pretty funny when we’re building a set for a play and then having to go play that night can you can you act oh no I so they had the list of the jobs and we were like we’re not acting we we had to
Build the set for the actors not at any point in that class did you have to do maybe like a little skit like a little improv gable gable had to get up there in front of the class one day but and I love the clip of that that has to be on
Video he was he was just okay oh okay all right all right maybe we could get you guys in like a future like a commercial that we do when you guys make the big time it’s always fun I want to get more players in the mix showing off their personality I think
It’d be fun yeah we’d love that chipotle should give you guys a free commercial right they just gave you guys uh free burritos for a year right yeah they did so I my uh agent text me on the bus after the game he’s like I’m pretty sure
Chipotle’s giv the whole team free read us for you and then everyone’s like no you’re lying you’re lying and they tweeted it out and boys went not W that’s unreal doesn’t include guac though guac is extra hey you’re St Patrick’s baby huh I am got a big celebration every year for
The fam yeah it’s it’s a decent day to have your birthday on in Boston freaking right so when you were growing up playing around here you played for the Eagles program right yeah I did so Leonard obviously being a Mas kid had you started playing against him when you
Guys were like 8 years old 9 years old yeah cuz I I mean we went to the brick um together when we were nine or 10 so that’s when we kind of first started to um like become friends and then every summer we’d play together um but we he played for the Springfield
Rifle so we were in different leagues okay um but we we’ve been friends since like eight or nine so when you were when you were younger how much summer hockey were you playing I know we we’ve talked about this a lot that you want to get
Kids off the skates but it’s changed so much were you one of those kids at 11 like doing like seven tournaments every summer I think we would stick to like two or three during the summer but we we made sure we want to have some some family time in the cape or something
Like that you don’t want to overdo it I mean we all saw the video of you talking about parents thinking their kids being first rounders we thought that was hilarious yeah until the booze comes yeah women yeah I was I was good till then I I want to go back to the classes
Have you had any weird interactions with students like have has anyone maybe sent over a note to you like I don’t know uh I mean sometimes I mean sometimes we’ like we walk in from class to class in the hallways and then a kid for his one other class would ask to
Interview the line we do an interview in between classes with another student for his class okay that’s kind that’s kind of silly he was blushing a little at the beginning B I think he’s leaving out a certain some certain um females that might have reached out to well that’s
What I just mean like you’re all of a sudden you go from being at class I mean you’re you’re a known figure around the school I would say that BC hockey is probably more prevalent than BC football am I speaking out of turn here by a mile
That’s what I mean so BC hockey is like the thing so you must be just getting hounded in the Halls here and we have a bunch of friends who help us out with with with work or if we need to study groups or something like that
So the [ __ ] does that mean my Miss and something you got like a security guard he’s got like a tutor he’s got a couple different tutors Ashley and Jasmine and [Laughter] charity you must you must be fired up a month away from your first bean pot man you must be
Jacked up beat on be you coming up or what wh Terry is yep that’s that’s a whole another thing CU for talking about students are games they had like a release for the tickets and we were in class and everyone’s like hounding us us like hey like can you help us can you
Help us and there was like 8,000 students in the like waiting for the tickets really we’re going to have a sick crowd there for that first game well what’s cool is that you guys have a home in home with be prior to the bean poot first round I mean you must be so
Fired up for that first Buc matchup I don’t know which Night’s At KY and which Night’s At aganis do you have it is it Friday at your guys building he’s going be playing against your team with yes he’s going to be playing against your team we should be a little friendly bet
Here one and two in the nation dude going head-to-head and then they got the first round of the bean pot a week after that so it should be a crazy eight days in that rivalry that’s gonna be huge for the rankings that’s a yeah that’s a big week
Yep um a good friend of mine Brendan Buckley is your assistant coach you must love playing for him great great dude huh yeah he’s he’s awesome hey is don’t [ __ ] ask him about me hey uh was bucks the one who taught you the laughing at the bar trick
Yes yes yes that we talked about that in Nashville yeah we did well the best part about Nashville and I told it on the Pod after was that everyone from the national development program they had like 14 kids drafted in the first and second round whatever and they’re
Wearing their jerseys out at the bar and then they all get booted cuz they realize they’re 18 this is the only kid who wasn’t in his jersey like I’m not get I’m not getting myself in any trouble here I get chill in this t-shirt the veteran and that’s when Buck called
Me and goes get away from him yeah I remember he shot me a taxi he was like get out of there she was possible and then then I your draft was that your sister who caught a left when you were getting dapped up there yeah my
Cousin uh oh no he like caught her when he was going for I think he was hugging me and then like f when Leonard got picked he clipped his girlfriend in the face too with his elbow keep an eye two back to back right away Jesus she took a while she kind of
Laughed it off a little bit there yeah he’s got to play it off on TV I I just I just wanted to go back to the the development program and like like I know they probably don’t have to sell it on most kids who end up getting invited
Because everyone wants to go there but like what did it do to accelerate your development like how easy H has that program made it for you to have success that I mean you like 17 year was brutal I mean the first couple months like get me out of this place cuz we
Were we would just go to Youngstown and lose 10 to one I mean you couldn’t it was just it was awful I mean the workouts everything so everyone says you get through those first couple months and then we I think we had one of the worst records in program history for a
17s team and then 18 year it just flips around it’s like it’s ridiculous and it’s everything’s slower I mean we went from the worst team to one of the I mean we had I think nine losses total last year so I mean the workouts and all that
It just I mean you’re at the rink for eight hours a day so it just it just instills that work ethic in you that you probably wouldn’t have been able to naturally get over that hump on your own to to force yourself to get up at the
6:00 a.m. go to work out get the school work done go skate second workout in the afternoon that type of [ __ ] like like basically army style yeah I mean it was army style I mean it was also I mean you’re waking up and it’s 8 in the morning you have practice and there’s
Five first round picks right there and you have to go against some of the best D in the country so it’s like there’s no day where you get to go against someone to practice is like all right I’m going to go right around this guy it’s it’s
Every day there’s all the big dogs in the locker there’s all everyone’s going at it because everyone wants to go with each other so it’s like that that’s what really got good is the practices because everyone was so good that’s that right there Whit is why I agree with you and I
Feel that that USA has figured out a formula to develop its best talent and I know that in Canada they had the CHL but like you just talked about the teams are so w watered down because there’s so many of them where you are getting easy reps and practice practice iron sharpens
Iron and that’s why I think that the USA program has it figured out and I wish that Canada could develop that sort of program or at least do it at a certain age to prepare these kids for that type of mindset that’s great to hear man I
Appreciate you open up about that so you played at at St sebs right St sebastians yeah so for freshman and sophomore year I I imagine even as a freshman or eighth grade like your your dream was to be at the at the national program right so you
Just waiting to maybe hear your name involved with the other best players or was it kind of evident even as a freshman that in in two years I’m I’m probably going to be there or were you a late bloomer you know what I’m asking yeah I mean yes and no I think because
Growing up I mean Prep School hockey was like the biggest thing of yeah you go to those games and you’re like oh my God like I want to be out there so bad so I think when I was at St seb’s playing it was more kind of enjoying it and then I
Mean we knew that the next year was our uh development uh try out year so it was like like obviously you want you want to go there but it’s tough leaving all your uh best buddies behind yeah I heard you’re a Morgan Wallen guy last night I let the liquor talk
That’s a [ __ ] Banger I can’t remember anything we sh CU we shared it all I love I went to the Fenway show did you go to one of those yeah I was there Friday night oh yeah so we yeah we were there same night actually it was a great
Show biz this guy he he’s good I actually think he music’s even better on the radio right where like it’s I guess when you get the autot tune involved it’s probably a little better but live he still had a good good performance yeah um I feel like country music’s made
A Resurgence with all these guys are you any other country artist fan or or is wall in your guy I used to hate country music and then this year I just started loving it so I mean I like uh John party a lot he has some great songs I don’t know who
That is I’m going to have to listen to him after I think country is coming back the way it is is and it’s the same reason Taylor Swift’s so big there’s nothing else like I put on the top 50 us it’s [ __ ] horrible dude like there’s
No good music so if you get some real good singers in country and then Taylor Swift’s a different beast but there’s no other options now the music like are you listening to this little oozi vert [ __ ] that I are you that stuff you asking Willie no I’m not into that it’s trash
No yeah well like with after every game we it’s it’s no like rap or any of that it’s just it’s country music it’s like chill it’s not it’s not nothing too much what uh who had the aux cord for USA brenley wow that’s a that’s a big job he
Should have got player the tournament the mix like he brought he brought the Michigan music to our team so oh okay grenell always talks about this big booty mix is that what’s going on pregame or does he actually Shuffle up his own thing why you laughing you a
Big big booty mix guy I mean sometimes it’s uh that’s his Tut sound yeah SoundCloud uh sometimes but here and there what El what else other than Morgan wall I know we’re digging deep on the music about uh what about Tate McCrae heard your big Tate McCrae
She’s got hockey hey she’s got hockey affiliation he didn’t I heard a hockey player cheated on her and then she got back by doing the album she got the pads on wrong and [ __ ] trolling them yeah I didn’t know that full story and then they kind of she she’s been blown up um
You ever send her a DM or anything or no you can’t be cut no you’re cut NE hockey player’s grass after that he he mess he [ __ ] it up bu I okay uh all let’s bring it to you you’re the Wy veteran like is that also didn’t know the full
Story I didn’t know the full story going to talk about like Betty Boop right now some Betty grael that games on her yeah yeah oh no Marilyn Monroe already probably went to her [ __ ] wedding her first wedding the original makeup move girl come on [ __ ] show some respect
That’s Marilyn Monro she was the original tug that was your first was the first first one on Playboy first one on a Playboy cover yeah do you know that the girl on the poster um of sha Shank Redemption I thought that was Rita Haworth Rita Hayworth I think she was
Like when you were in like seventh grade and if I get this wrong I should get fired but I’m pretty sure Marilyn was on the first issue of Playboy but uh wow Rita Hayworth little little life lesson for will [ __ ] I’m bring it to you do
You think it’s fair game r that when you know former hockey player [ __ ] it up with Tate McCrae and she’s on the rise I mean if if they’re done in and I if it’s your real tyght boy you with he don’t want you around then that’s one thing
But if you’re semi casual and they donezo [ __ ] it man you know all right all right Bo thank you so much it’s a free world get everybody can we as a podcast let’s try to hook them up then be matchmakers we could chicklets crew this is our our Twitter’s nuts here
Willie but if she rolls into a ganis Arena to watch him when they’re playing be I’m not going to be happy about that Biz I don’t need this kid getting four goals with Tate in the crowd it could be the new Taylor Swift and uh Travis Kelce
This could be it College hockey version I think that chicklets Nation can do it you guys should get her to come to the bean pot she’ll leave with Biz Biz will end up showing whoa whoa whoa she how old is she like 2 that’s too young she’s too
Young um who’s another it girl that you guys talk about like who’s the it girl in in in your guys world uh I mean obviously you know syy Sweeney’s new movie just came out so she okay oh she was in Euphoria did you guys all watch Euphoria yeah I a I’m a
Euphoria guy so it’s it’s a little sick and twisted now granelli has been telling me about this other movie that just came out that’s even more sick and twisted that’s saltburn it’s [ __ ] wild have you SE I had I I had a group chat about it yesterday I’m not watching
It I’m not I I got some of the CO’s notes and I’m like this doesn’t appeal to me it’s incredible it’s an incredible movie there’s a bathtub scene that I’m not even saying anything else because I heard what the scene is I’d rather drink AR’s bath water let’s put it that way no
Like even like after looking at his eighth grade maryn Monroe Playboy like we can go into that no [ __ ] fantastic movie though yeah so you likeor it’s the college student meets this other college student and the the the well the rich one and the kind of nerdy one the rich one invites the
Nerdy one to his family’s like Castle estate for the summer and there bunch of weird [ __ ] goes on basically that’s the gist of it Mar that’s what’s popping off right now is like rich kid problems right that that’s seems these kids had a lot of problems too in this fu movie The
More More Money More Problems for these little kids who never had to work for it um what else do we want to ask him boys do you know do you know any other Will Smith songs that you can sing or just uh The Fresh Prince oh that’s the only one
I know a you don’t know par understand God come on he want to sing for you the best Will Smith song is from Family Guy when he does the clean rap it’s it’s one of the most classic scenes of all time they talk about how
He never swore I think I’ve done this on the pod you could do the rap I don’t remember it right now it’s like take your shoes off before you come in the house somebody just clean that rug woohoo like it’s it’s clean rap it’s it’s hilarious it’s the best Will Smith
Rap going well that and when he got he [ __ ] slapped Chris Rock for making fun of his like wife who cuts him constantly out your [ __ ] mouth that’s still the craziest thing that ever happened right when even all these years later like Will Smith [ __ ] SLA [ __ ] Chris Rock
People on Twitter think that’s hilarious when I like even like in the gold medal game when I had the slap pass people think it’s hilarious to joke around about Will Smith slapping with Chris Rock and just related it that was a sick dish though dude head up the whole time
Awesome pass there good stuff she showed my wife that earlier well Smitty we appreciate it buddy Biz I don’t know if you got anything else for this stud no anything else you want to ask us fire away you don’t have any questions for ra big golfer maybe we get
Him for sandbagger yeah we talked about that ra alluded to it but we didn’t talk about how when we blew you off at the draft did we oh yeah no we didn’t we no we talked about that a little bit at during the tour we did not publicly
Though so let’s put it I think it’s it’s my fault because I’d gone four and a half months sober and then they they kind of put all this work on me at the draft where I had to do something at the awards and I hadn’t had a drink and then
Merles put this [ __ ] uh margarita in front of me right before we were supposed to go back and you know 10. Mars will get you 10 a.m. margs at at this restaurant Nashville and I said you know what I don’t give a flying [ __ ] about any more work it’s time to crank
It so my apologies but there was a reason it got backed up it’s because we knew we were going to win a gold medal and come on and get to talk about that in the bean po pod brother so congrats on all your success your first half at
College and uh keep kicking ass man keep kicking it thank you guys for having me well what time did they did they call you and bail out at what time did they did they let you know they were bailing out at for uh for one fail yeah the day they build out the
Interview what time what time did they did they finally tell you that it was like I think it was it was in the morning because you guys okay we me supposed to meet at like 1 and yeah Biz gave me the whole grenell cancel everything today so I [ __ ] and then
Didn’t go to sleep for like three days after then I went on then I went on a bender then I went on my college visit as they call him I’ll be all right well thanks so much buddy season pal you’re a Legend big thanks to Will Smith the jump and all those congrats again buddy on that gold medal I can’t wait to see this kid in the NHL man he’s going to be an absolute stud but uh Biz I know there was something else you want to address
Regarding the uh World Juniors oh maybe you guys have the answer to it so when is Russia allowed back in international play I was wondering the same thing oh it’s not the same and will they be will they be best on best in the NHL that’s I
Think it’s all TBA right now I will is this is is this doping or is this the Ukraine thing no I think it’s a combin it’s a it’s a cocktail it’s a mix just spin the wheel yeah I think it’s a add Putin in there a little spice of Putin
Uh but are you’re telling me if if if if we don’t like if we have best on best NHL and we and and we don’t have vasileski and kerov and fck seriously what the hell I was even thinking world junior level cuz like you never know
Like some years if they got him on enough steroids are like unbelievable and they might actually win a gold you know although each of them are like 26 and 28 with the fake passports but the Wild Card element of them winning it and then like taking over an Air Canada
Flight cuz they’re all smoking darts and boozing and [ __ ] like taking over the plane I don’t know the flight it WF of Wall Street and they wake up like taped to the Sea uh like I’m happy Slovakia is coming up in the [ __ ] game but I’d rather see the r where the
Ries [ __ ] some of them have the [ __ ] biggest bombs on their faces too like zits you’ve never seen the size of cuz they’re they’re I mean get do Dr pimple popper on that bch am I am I crazy here CU they’re all on the gas
Right so their back is just ruthless I I mean I got it from [ __ ] Jack protein powders I still get pimples but those Russian pimples hit different oh budy buddy they break the glass in the mirror I don’t know how people watch that show Dr pimple PFF I would break
You vile thing to [ __ ] watch uh one guy Canada did not have Conor badad unfortunately injured he BR broke his jaw the other night I was cutting through the middle across the blue line and Brendan Smith honestly with I think he he basically let the hit come to him
He could have absolutely troed him if he wanted to unfortunately like I said he broke his jaw he’s going to be out for a little bit uh I think everybody consensus thought it was a clean hit no issues with it unless you’re a Blackhawks fan I think they they were
The only people complaining online but still sucks with this kid man I just hate to see it happen what he can’t get touched was what was what were they crying about elbow oh they claim it was dirty they would try to say it was a
Dirty hit I mean if he is if he’s two in taller or an inch taller like nothing it was it was a nothing hit what happened was if you watch the clip he’s flying through the neutral zone head up doesn’t look down even once and the puck he
Makes a nice move to the right the puck just kind of squirts away from him and he looks down quick and you know that’s what happens like Brendan Smith made a great play steeping up and he can’t not finish his hits either like he he doesn’t have the ability to like get out
Of the way for a star he’ll be in the [ __ ] Press Box for another two weeks exactly but it was it was it was just it was just brutal cuz he’s a little smaller and it just caught him perfectly didn’t even look that bad I mean talk
About no look at bad Hughes went out he just fell over and I it must have been his wrist or something but what a wild game that turned into but what I took out of that obviously I took out of Bard being gone now it sucks it reminds me of
Uh when McDavid got hurt his rookie year just change and it C and it cost him the the Rookie of the Year the called her but won’t be going back to Vancouver He he’ll miss that game back home yep that sucks but uh Philip kurashev I don’t
Know if you watched it but he went right after Brendan Smith dude a smaller guy and and he and I respected the hell out of and Smith kind of dubbing him quick and then the leader came in Nick Felino no question they ended up having another fight after Brendan Smith answered the
Bell he did a great job in terms of I don’t know if they fought after but they they he went I was I really loved how like it wasn’t just Felino went over it was Kev first right after him at least you show a team sticking up for their
Star player but just it was a shitty luck play like in the end it it wasn’t dirty both both Luke Richardson said it wasn’t dirty so any Blackhawks fan out there saying that like the head coach already said they were fine with the hit it was just a brutal bounce for the kid
Who’s having a hell of a season and now I don’t know how long will be out but you knew right away the way he grabbed his face that it was something serious and you men they loost Felino too broke his finger in that fight but you take a
Look at that roster I included the link I mean it’s kind of like uh was it Butch Cassie in the Sundance Kid who are those guys I that roster it’s insane I don’t I mean but then again it’s hockey they come out uh Sunday and and beat uh who
They beat four to three Sunday I don’t know if was Calgary right so you know you got to still go and play the game so kudos to them for coming out winning the game but man tough sledding for that for that Squad with Al badad Smith did
Answer the Bell like you said but brings us to Nick cousins Biz uh Nick cousins he’s been quite the nuisance out there running a m uh and he doesn’t really like to pay the piper uh he went a bridge two5 versus Arizona not only did he hit valaki into the boards like that
While he was in a a very vulnerable position but he actually left his feet which was completely unnecessary which resulted in Jason Zucker taking matters into his hands basically repaid the uh same hit toward him he ends up with a three-game suspension zaka does and our
Buddy juice on H hocky night and Canada gave a little rant the other night we’re going to roll piss of that piece of that CH let’s roll the whole clip uh let’s get to the Nick cousins and Jason zucker’s three Gam buckle up everyone no well maybe we could sit here right now
And we could debate fighting in the NHL like what’s the place of fighting we could debate Michigan goals do you like them do you hate them but the fact of the matter is people come to games and watch on TV in the hopes of seeing a
Michigan goal in the hopes of seeing a fight they like it now what people don’t want to watch and see is kneeing uh hitting a guy’s head into the boards uh ramming a guy from behind and that is a common theme for a player in this league
And I’ve never done this before but I have to do it because this is a trend with this player and he’s done this a numer a numerous amount of times raming the guys heading to the boards you know the the hit earlier in the year under G
Branson this was shley last year like there’s no place in the game for this and what’s the common theme in all these him at the bottom of the pile in a turtle position not like Brendan Smith standing up taking your medicine this has been a common theme for this player
And listen I’m told he’s a good guy I’m told he’s liked by his teammates and he’s actually a pretty good hockey player but somebody in that organization or somebody that he respects has to sit down and say enough of this this doesn’t help the Florida Panthers win it doesn’t
Make us a better team or the NHL has to come down and Hammer this guy my good friend Rafi Torres love the guy they didn’t like some of the hits he was making they hammered him with a 25 game suspension they hammered him with a 41 game suspension right somebody has to
Hammer this guy from the Department of Justice and put an end to these crappy hits cuz I hate them and they remind me like that’s that’s a rat to me I’m sorry it is I mean juice is is great at what he does we’ve said that a bunch he could
Have been more on the mock but piz I know you wanted to add your five c as well and he nailed it too it sucks doing it and having a be I think he said it was the first time he’s ever done it in his media career where he scalds a guy
Now you could debate you know is it m car or Quinn Hughes you know who’s the who should win the Norris who’s the best defenseman you can debate the MVP but there’s no debating right now in the NHL who the biggest piece of [ __ ] scumbag is and that is Nick cousins like
I I texted him today to come on the podcast okay this is the this is the conversation want to come on the podcast uh now would be the time he haha know it know it would build your brand yeah let’s do it when if Whit apologizes
I go about what no I will can you send me the questions though though a couple days in advance Nick cousin Nick cousins he wants to I go so what is he mad about my tweet to I don’t know I don’t know but whatever you said I’m
Sure it was [ __ ] fair and we’re going to get into the rest of Nick cousins and why he’s the biggest piece of [ __ ] scumbag uh public enery number one right now and this is what I wrote back to him I go we don’t usually do that here but
Question number one is it hard being the biggest rat [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] in the league question mark You’re the Rat King by a mile most wanted list number one how much are you making probably not enough for the size of the Target on your back and doing it every night an
Exhausting job he goes ha haa definitely underpaid now this is I agree with with everything that bexa was saying every time he’s doing something dirty he ends up on the bottom of the pile and he won’t drop his gloves uh uh the fact that he needs to
Get his face caved in the fact that he does need to be talked to by a an elderly player a veteran and or management but I disagree with Kevin bexa about what the conversation needs to be I would just say now that you have this Target on your back you need to
Walk this very fine line because the book is out the the book is out on Nick cousins and exactly what he’s trying to do in games one other thing that bexa I don’t know if he was allowed or or didn’t care to mention I thought that
The the hit from Zucker was a complete dive show put him in [ __ ] AE w wrestling Nick cousins did you see when he get T gets tapped from behind him jump into the glass and shed the Ms and go to his knees the fact that he had to put peros
In the situation to give Zucker a three-game suspension blows my mind and the fact that he went for it I feel bad for peros that’s how bad of a piece of [ __ ] that Nick cousins is being right now by putting him in the position where he has to suspend Jeff Zucker over that
Or Jason Zucker excuse me I said Jeff Zucker that was a [ __ ] are we are we that was a dive that was a full-fledged [ __ ] dive and if Nick cousins are going to text me tomorrow after this comes out as he’s listening to in his [ __ ] whatever Ford Bronco or F-150
From [ __ ] a dealership and Bell Vegas that’s where that scumbags from Belleville Ontario anytime that you have Vegas on the end of your City match Vegas you know what happens in Manch Vegas people get [ __ ] stabbed to death outside of front in the of their best or bar bell Vegas
He’s Nick cousins come to the stage my tweet said dirt bag public even go ahead sorry I put the clip of juice then I said the way bexa played the game only makes these words more meaningful he played hockey mean and tough but fair cousins plays the game
Blatantly trying to injure people now if you look at the clip he jumped the guy’s on his knees it’s I I guess it’s one thing to like leave your feet to bury someone who’s standing against the glass or open Ice he was on his knees and his
Feet left the ground now I didn’t see the explanation in terms of why cousins didn’t get suspended I think part of the reason that that um Zucker ended up getting three is because it was retaliatory right so it was like blatantly like retaliation for his teammate but cousins he jumps in the air
Valam he sitting on his knees trying to stickle him boom and none of these people listening who never played will understand how big of a love tap that was from Zucker the thing that all the Panthers fans are coming at me with cousins it’s how the Panthers play
He like embodies how this team plays if they’re losing they they cause an absolute Ruck like everyone Lo first of all juice made it clear and I don’t know cousins but apparently the guys love love love buddy give me him give me him every day of the week twice on Sundays
Want that to not take away from I’ll [ __ ] on him and say if I’m a GM like bring him on over I want him on my team the whole league hates his guts and all his teammates love him but but when you look when you look at like what he’s
Doing he’s running guys over from behind half the time and then all of a sudden he’s on the on the ice laying down this is coming from a guy who didn’t hit anyone and was afraid out of his life to fight but I see this dude airborne and
Valaki has a [ __ ] Shield over his face and he’s on his knees dare I use these two names I would put him potentially in sha Avery scumbag territory based on all the Antics involved you could put a reel over the last two years together that would make
A good case we’re talking Matt Cook territory of hatred around the league was he like this on the Y buddy has this always been his game buddy they would be dead down to nothing nothing would be going on and this guy would go say something or do something that all of a
Sudden the game was like it caught fire he I’m not going to say what he has said things to players on the ice surface in the NHL that has led to the away player coming in to their dressing room after the game to look for him like oh yes
Okay so he is the ultimate I want to kill that so he could take two ways here he and and and nothing against you and what’s even crazier about it is we do an outline line call every Friday for this show and we were done the outline going
Through it and I said oh yeah and one thing I go tea me up for the [ __ ] tea me up for Nick cousins and then the next night bxa goes on Hockey Night in Canada and says everything to a te and he nailed it the only thing I disagree with
Once again is I would want him changing nothing about his game I don’t he cares the other because if listen if there were other guys on their team that were skilled were like oh I don’t want to deal with that but they got so many guys that almost want that and Thrive
Off that type of [ __ ] who the [ __ ] is going to compete with that every night who what other teams are Built Tough like them they’re the big bad bullies and he’s the’re they’re legitimate cup cont cup contenders and he’s the biggest scumbag dirt bag of them in all they
Should there should they should they should say bringing back the rats and it should be though like the five Horsemen of dirt bags on that team and they should wear it proudly and it they got Ben they got Bennett and kachuck like what’s going on here I got
To do something really dirty what the [ __ ] montour’s got some spice to him too he’s got some spice to him he’ll F he’ll be lipping he not going to do the [ __ ] that oh Lamborghini you don’t think Lamborghini loves that [ __ ] they’re probably H and lugies in each other’s
Mouth before the game like that old [ __ ] move the program this is what’s going on here V cousins he’s the king he there’s a new king of the rats we’ve talked about kachuck in the past he’s been dethroned his own teammate dethroned him Maran Marshon come on he he ain’t touching
Scumbag status the way that Nick cousins from Bell Vegas is touching right now so congratulations Nick the invite is still out there if you want to come on the podcast come on Nick come on come build your brand because they ain’t paying you enough to be a compl after the episode
Drops B he’s going to text you back tomorrow and be like uh I want all the questions in advance and $50,000 [ __ ] par you want oh yeah oh yeah Mr Crosby you want the questions in advance come on he could get like a like a a side deal with like an
Exterminator right like he’s just on the face of the truck yeah the king of the rats and then it’s cousins in his jersey well he’s going to have to do something after playing he’s only making [ __ ] league minimum now under he told you only the second time like someone’s
Requested the questions in advance G is that correct I can only think of one other uh potential guest who who asked them in advance we we should do an SN send him a bunch of questions do an do an SNM your childhood get did JK gag
Balls the whips the chains get them the get them get them in these uh Fascination stops all acoss what tool do you use to sharpen the end of your stick before games godamn Hannibal actor out there but I’ll I’ll end it with this you want those guys on your
Godamn it’s unbel that’s the game yeah you guys answer the question I had on there does it benefit the team in some way and obviously especially this team them but the the conversation right now has to happen though of saying you you you got to walk it a little bit more
Smoothly or it’s really going to start cosing us the book If the book hadn’t been out I don’t know how this one got past peros in a sense of like the reverse suspension where I would have gave cousins three and then nothing to Zucker I don’t know how he
Disappears uh Houdini not anymore Targets on your back you’re done next time uh meanwhile Florida uh seven game winning streak right now outscore of the opposition 31 to4 MD kachuck that in the heat up they’re just two points back in Boston right now and freaking reinh hot
Man 50 points in 39 games keeps it rolling but keep it with the H [ __ ] stirs out there Biz we got to go back to the Brendan Dylan hotman Peretti story from a couple weeks ago uh you know Dylan cross J Capri off Ryan hotman then
Wack Cole Peretti in the face off of a draw uh and then hotman supposedly told Cole it was intentionally because he was allegedly caught on the mic well hotman denied it he said that Peretti was baiting him to admit it because Peretti was wearing a y of that game and the
Opposition I know you guys know this but maybe our listeners don’t when guys are wearing why is you know out the ice the other team is made aware of it the opposition there’s a note on the board so they’re they’re aware that and H basically said Peretti was trying to
Bait me he said I know he’s wearing a mic all game he comes up to me multiple times and asked me if I did it on purpose and finally all I told him was I’m not going to say it wasn’t on purpose so I didn’t tell him hey I did
That on purpose he kept coming up to me and I was finally saying I’m not going to say it was on purpose that was the extent of it I mean it felt like he was just conveying what was unset on the ice but is this semantics is he splitting ha
Or what’s your whole no no I I kind of I view it a lot of ways like interesting that the the story keeps evolving like lies and secrets [ __ ] NHL’s thriving right now but um maybe it was a mind game from Peretti back to Hartman basically being like I’m going to get
You on on audio saying it just to [ __ ] with you I don’t know like there was a reason he was chasing him around doing it and trying to kind of get back in his head kind of a listen this this got even more Amplified because once again on
Hockey Night in Canada um it was Jamal Mars who took one stance Jen bodell said this is ridiculous like this should be a suspension like you know he intentially tried to injure the guy where I tend to be more old school and after listening to the Fetti press conference in which I
Thought he handled himself well I it became playful cuz nobody walked away losing an eye I get where it’s like ah [ __ ] if this would have got ugly of of like him getting his [ __ ] Eye carved out like the [ __ ] Terry Ryan story we had told on the podcast then all of a
Sudden my perspective changes do I want to see this type of thing going on every night no but I I think that the NHL is [ __ ] it’s it’s getting a little bit more greasy and I [ __ ] like that it’s a little bit more old school and it goes
Back to the the game policing itself with Felino going after Smith for the hit who gives a [ __ ] can’t you hit my big guy fight let’s [ __ ] go here goes back to the the other thing we were just talking about um wh I was shocked to to
Find out that the league can’t do anything based on audio from players mics which is why they agreed to it via the PA right because they don’t want to yeah but I didn’t know I didn’t know that so I don’t know if Hartman didn’t know that either in terms of like uh
Like I know you have a mic on I know what you’re trying to do to me but it wouldn’t have mattered no matter what he said they can’t use like any any audio from a mic on a player to ever discipline anyone else on the ice um I
Can’t be calling you can’t be calling Peretti greasy when he just got stuck in the face like they both kind of being once you got the once you got a stick in your face because Capri off got hit by Dylan like I was on the bench I didn’t
Even do anything so at this point he’s I guess trying to get him uh under oath saying yeah he meant to stick your eye out with the the the the the end of my twig but it’s like an it puts it it it puts it to rest but I
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A grocery store why are you on the IR with that uh point you brought up about not being able to use audio that was from Tim Peele he had it on his podcast with J yes yes that’s what I saw on Twitter and he got busted with with
Audio correct he said yeah you can’t use audio to discipline players I don’t know if he specified like a mic W by a player he say but referees can because and I asked him how did you get caught and he said that the Nashville feed picked him
Up picked his audio up you know he must have been close to one of those you know whatever called the the mics on the [ __ ] boards or whatever or high on the glass and [ __ ] instead of just like okay it happened on the on the field the player leave it there
Nashville [ __ ] played it and like basically snitched on him I mean I’m sure they weren’t the first local broadcast to hear referee say something along those lines and it’s like I know I think you should just not saying that it’s part of the field to play man I
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Winipeg Minnesota this isn’t going anywhere man they’re in the same division this could get even more heated uh but as for Cole profet team the hottest team in hockey for a while now Winnipeg Jets remained on fire they swept the week they beat Tampa San Jose
Anaheim and Arizona a top not only the Central Division but the NHL as well with 56 points uh went over the Ducks was the sixth straight uh they set a new team record their 12th straight game with at least one point Friday’s win in Anaheim was their ninth straight game
This is crazy sorry uh ninth straight game allowing two of fuel goals 16 out of 17 games 21 out of 24 games and that was their 29th straight game they allowed three goals off fewer uh in NHL best 225 and two during those games what’s incredible since Kyle Connor’s
Been out they’ve gone 101 and two uh obviously Conor hak a huge part of this he set his own personal record for most consecutive points uh 10 and two but how about those [ __ ] Winnipeg Jets biss holy [ __ ] Round of Applause for ra belting through all those stats while
Double [ __ ] dude double wristing the Jets look at you getting three-way e every Curry at the foul godamn you little [ __ ] you with your stats um what I mean boys army saw this defense busy boy this has just been the ultimate uh uh what do you call it the Mongolian
Reversal yes from training camp to what they’ve been able to accomplish as a team and how [ __ ] undervalued we maybe thought their back end was and I mean we knew what hella Buck was going to bring but I mean this offense the leadership their commitment to just
Playing as this well oiled machine the way they [ __ ] cycle the way they leave the next shift for the next guy in a good position not [ __ ] backchecking bonus has him playing and even when he wasn’t around that [ __ ] leadership had the boys going so just a a round of
Applause for the Winnipeg Jets now I never had anything against the Jets coming in did I maybe underestimate their abilities absolutely I was more upset with the fan base for not supporting them and selling that small barn out but I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’re selling out every
Game now this is the hottest ticket in town it should be and they should be getting their flowers because it’s remarkable with I would say that you could take most of professionals assumption on whether they were going to make playoffs and they would have had
Them out and now are they are they a number one place are they first overall in points right now first overall like you that many games in a row without giving up four goals crazy that’s that’s mind-blowing and did they fleece the LA Kings like I think I watched just saw s
Backhand turnover in Washington Sunday ends up in the back of the net and there’s a long way to go here but I have follows playing on the second line smart player always know what you’re going to get out of him valard looks incredible they got another guy not even on the
Team right now and all of a sudden the Jets have a bunch of guys that want to be there with a stud goalie and a deep team and their best player hasn’t even played in a month I mean what we’re witnessing besides Colby Armstrong I’ll say it again is shocking and it went
From where is heluk and shley gonna be come playoff time what teams will they be on to the Jets are Stanley Cup contenders and I know for a fact Ra’s got a future on them he’s got 32 Futures so I’m not reaching too far
There but I do a fun team to watch that doesn’t give up anything they don’t give up chances and then when they do they got this stud in net and bruis is good too when when hellu isn’t playing yeah defense tigh tighter than an UNS [ __ ]
Whit just tighter than an UNS [ __ ] who now like Colorado Dallas Winnipeg like who are you taking right now though um that’s what’s tough right I I I think I think I’m taking Winnipeg over Colorado I think they’re proven buddy I think that they’re proven to be a
One-trick pony right now and you got to send out that listen I’m not saying they’re second layer is is like brutal or bad I just don’t think it competes with the top teams in the west that’s why Colorado is going to make a big move they have to make a big
Move but Winnipeg from from D look at their third line Dallas is Dallas nobody talks about him nobody says a word but but I view them as the same I think that hinan puts them over the edge on from a defensive standpoint cuz they kind of
Have that True Ace I think when both defenses are healthy you would say that they’re they were like on paper they’re okay stacked up against the rest of the teams in the west uh maybe a little bit under they both got the goalies and they
Both have the guys up front as far as Dallas joke as far as Dallas I feel like they have a a very similar makeup of what their team is they’ played good structure hockey they can rely on good goal tending the the back end doesn’t overwhelm you but I mean [ __ ] that
Matty duchaine pickup and he’s second their team in scoring right now they got a lot of guys up front they got three good lines pavelski keeps doing it yeah somehow so Winnipeg’s for real is is and and I oh they’re not going anywhere at this point I mean it this it’s a long
Enough sample size to say holy [ __ ] this is happening and beware whoever gets them in the first round because that will be a tough ass series as every series in the west will be the East is wide open who knows who’s coming out of there the West has seven
Horses that are trying to come out and and I’m including the Edmonton Oilers in that because I think they’re like 15 and three in their last 18 games and I want to cry as I say that well another team uh that’s been quite rejuvenated and on fire lately the Seattle Kraken uh they
Actually lost eight in a row then they come back got points in 10 straight going 80 and two right back in the Wild Card west wild card race out west uh kind of like Washington Biz I don’t think you know they don’t jump right out yet you’re almost like how are they get
This done I mean the power play 17th penalty killers was 12 but Vince Dunn leading the team in scoring as a defenseman all of all of a book strand will get to him a little bit later but this elely tolven man he might be the
Best wre pickup in like the last 5 10 years in the NHL I mean Nashville let him go for nothing in 51 games with Seattle he’s got I’m sorry 87 games with Seattle he’s get 51 points but the biggest reason Joey dord uh we’re going
To get to his story very shortly uh 10 five and eight in the year 229 goals against 922 save percentage two shutouts including the first one ever uh in the with the classic before the season only had 15 NHL stats already 21 this year
What this is a great story I said like I said we’re going to get to him shortly but what’s your take on Seattle pal ra is [ __ ] buzzing right now yeah ra yeah besides that 5187 thing you’re fine ra buddy um I almost just want to lead
It to dord I think he’s he’s an enormous enormous part of it and we go into Seattle and and the start and what what kind of happened there in his mind even though he mentioned he was only there for five games last year so we’re going
To throw it over to him but I’ll tell every listen listener right now that obviously we interview some current players and some of these guys I I don’t blame them they do have personality but they come on they don’t want to say anything to get themselves in trouble a
Lot of them are younger and a lot of times I think people listen and you know they’re they’re a little underwhelmed and and I’m not saying that’s right or wrong but I understand where guys are coming from currently playing a lot of guys they just don’t feel comfortable
Really letting it Fly this interview right here is awesome it’s a crazy story it’s a different route than what you’ve heard of so many other NH tellers please take a listen super uh conversational he’s a very very personable kid and he’s been through a lot so check this
Interview out right now and then I actually got a a little story um a little more stuff he had to deal with adversity he dealt with in terms of college that we got into when the interview ended so check out doy Joey dord right now good speaking
With all right it’s time to welcome our next guest we got another mask guy for you today this this goalie was taken on the seventh round of the 2015 NHL draft by Ottawa after a year in the USHL he headed to Tempe Arizona where he played a huge role in establishing Arizona
State University as a legit spot to play D1 hockey here in the states while also rewriting their record books after three seasons with the S organization he was selected by Seattle in the expansion draft in this season his play is a major reason why the Kraken are right back in
The playoff mix thanks a bunch for joining us on the spit and chickens podcast Joey the conr conrat on everything brother how’s it going thanks guys yeah thanks for having me excited to be on looking forward to it Joey Joey Joey so apparently that all all all that
Jo the Joey chanting apparently it started last year in playoffs when you were with the Firebirds down in the AHL right yeah yeah it was pretty nuts um I mean it it was crazy like the fan support we got down there I think we all kind of didn’t know like what to expect
At all because it’s really not like a traditional hockey market and they’ve never had like a pro sports team or anything like that um and yeah I think like halfway through the year second half of the Year kind of started like I heard some Joey chants a few times then
Like by the time we got to like the CER Cup finals I if the puck went within 10 feet of the net it was Joey chance like it was all game pretty cool yeah yeah I was going to ask you that so playing down there in Palm Springs so this is what they’re
Doing with the American League they’re they’re expanding in the west and Palm Springs ends up getting a team so you’re saying the fan support was crazy I would imagine probably a lot of middle-aged people maybe older but this kind of gets them going because it’s the only only
Ticket in town well yeah that was kind of like the the interesting thing is we had like no idea what to expect at all and they get a ton of snowbirds in the winter so like we the rink wasn’t ready until around like Christmas time so then
Um yeah it was like a ton of snowbirds at first and then what happened was when we made playoffs they all the snowbirds leave at the end of April so we were like oh we’re screwed like we’re not going to have anyone in like the biggest
Games of the year and then the locals like became addicted and now it’s like a battle between the snowbirds and the locals for tickets apparently it’s hilarious yeah like go ahead sorry I was just gonna say like the the playoffs and especially the last like two three
Rounds were like insane and it was like all of like the local people just having the best time ever and now they like love hockey it’s crazy just a big swingers club Wht he b a big key party I don’t know how you took a th but I’ll go out there if you
Want imagine the and Palm Springs there’s got to be some [ __ ] cougars buzzing around and [ __ ] yeah I I I actually have a friend out there he’s the pro at the Vintage Club an amazing Golf Club David Woods he’s a Canadian but he was telling me down there like it
Just exploded like you said and all of a sudden all these tickets they’re hard to get and I think probably going on that run made it even crazier going into this year for those guys but in terms of your success right now I mean I remember
Getting to go to The cder Cup finals right when I turned Pro you just felt so much better going into that next season you get the conf confidence you obviously played incredible heartbreaking way to lose man but for you personally you must have felt great going into this season after having so
Much success even if it was the AHL you went on a nice little run and you’re like I can do this definitely I think it it was like probably one of the most magical runs I’ve ever been on um like just with a team in a city and like they they’ve
Never had a sports team to root for down there like in Palm Springs there’s they have um the big tennis tournament they have Indian Wells and they have like a PGA tournament so they kind of have like some sports but none of like their own
Team to root for right and um I think we kind of gave them that and then it it took off like we were really good we were loaded we had a great team and then we went on this Fairy Tale run we went to like the final game of every single
Series except for one like we won we won uh game three out of three in the first round game five out of five in the second round where we lost in overtime so the second round is five games we lost in overtime in game three at home
We were down uh late in game four like must-win and then we scored and then scored short-handed with a minute left to win and then won in game five and then like we were playing uh Calgary in the third round which like we were the two best teams in the league went to
Game five with them and it was 2-2 going to the third the third period ended 55 and then we scored in overtime like it just like Bonkers hockey that just kept going our way you know and um then we played Milwaukee in the fourth round
Beat them in six and then yeah we went to game seven couldn’t have been a better game in series with Hershey and it was just you know one bounce either way and that was it did I hear that right so you guys played five rounds
There’s like a play in now yeah so we actually it was crazy we came in second in the whole league and we had to play a play in to get into playoffs so it was just the way the seating and everything works out but yeah it was a three five5
S seven so we played 26 playoff games oh my God as if it isn’t a grind to begin with with you got the the four and fours the three and threes but throw not four not now it’s the Five series the toughest trophy to win in all professional sports at least they make
The first two rounds or I guess the second and third now like three out of five as opposed to all all of them being four out of seven but going into camp this year after that success like what were your thoughts I mean obviously like Seattle there’s a bunch of goalies there
You’d kind of done your job like last year with with the AHL team and I guess you’re going in I’m assuming just like thinking I’m going to win my spot on this team or were you almost like this is going to be tough to to end up
Battling getting on this roster well I think like you look at all the goalies that we have like gry’s obviously an established NHL veteran and and uh dregs has been around a long time and had a ton of success at the NHL level and then there’s myself where I’ve kind of just
Been battling and just trying to get an opportunity um I definitely felt like after last season and the way it all went like and and going into free agency I was like I I felt like I had so much posit positive momentum with Seattle I
Was like that’s where I want to be like I felt like I’d earned the the trust of the coaching staff through my NHL games last year and management through my NHL games and then also just like an incredible run in playoffs so I felt like Seattle was was the right place for
Me to to resigned so I was pumped to get that done before we even went to free agency um and then yeah definitely coming into Camp just I mean I feel like I’ve always had to earn everything that I’ve gotten at every level um it’s kind
Of never really been an easy Road for me so I went into train TR Camp just try to put my head down and work my ass off and hopefully uh you know get a spot on the team and was super pumped to to have it work out and have a good training camp
Was that the first time in Pro I mean obviously the Ottawa thing played out the way that it did but was that was the first time in Pro that you’ve been given the net over and over last year where you kind of got into that starter mentality back since you were at
ASU uh like American League wise or yeah just like in Pro right because you’re getting the net every night it’s a different mind frame than maybe when you’re playing play backup when you first get into Pro where you’re kind of back in that I’m the guy who’s getting
The crease back the mindset you had kind of at ASU where you were the guy I mean your last year you were a Hobie Baker finalist ASU yeah I defin I played every single game that year I played every minute except for seven that year so definitely get uh gives you a good
Opportunity to get in the Rhythm I I was pretty much the starter in Charlotte I’d say like uh my year before uh Coachella I played most of the games and I played all the playoff games so I definitely got in a taste of that and just kind of built from there like I
Think between sh and Charlotte uh my first year was Seattle played about like 45 50 games between Charlotte um regular season and postseason and then five games called up and then last year I played about 70 games between um you know the the playoffs and regular season
With the NHL and AHL so I think it’s a goalie when you can get like 70 games in a year that’s that’s a lot of hockey and um definitely just you almost just get into a mode where it’s just like the same every night right like I think for
A goalie the biggest thing is just consistency and if you can just the guys just know what they’re getting every night you know you’re going to have some some great ones and some bad ones every once in a while but if you’re just the same every night I think that’s um the
Biggest thing that that can help Advance your career at the professional level I love how you mentioned you’ve you’ve had to earn everything and we kind of talk about that on on this show a lot there’s high draft picks who are given a million chances and they’re guys that got to go
Out and get every single thing they have on their own and even for you as like a late bloomer it’s like you know you played at a a Prep School powerhouses Cushing Academy around here in New England but you know then you end up at ASU like I’m wondering how that all went
Down you really started that program they became D1 everything’s going great they got the rink now but when you went out there there was a lot of uncertainty was that something where there W where there weren’t other options or did you just want to be there um based on what
You heard and talking to coach Powers yeah what’s interesting about that was that like I I actually played two years at North Anover high school first so when you think about it like I I mean the chance of like most kids that play public high school like unless
You’re in Minnesota that that really doesn’t happen right um and then I repeated and played three years at Cushing so I was just like a late bloomer in everything um I did five years of high school you know I I went to Cushing and it was I remember my dad
Was actually the goalie coach for Cushing at the time and he told me like after the fact after I left Cushing he was like I thought I made a mistake when I first sent you to Cushing like it at the beginning it was just too fast and
The players were too good for you um you know when you first got out there so I was glad I repeat it it gave me some extra time and then you know I only made it to the USHL when I was 19 years old
And then I went to kush or I went to ASU at 20 so I mean yeah when I look back at the whole Collegiate process it was pretty nuts for me because I like I felt like I was close to getting a scholarship the whole time but never
Really got one and and no one offered me a scholarship and I remember coach pow called and I was driving home from a a game um we just won like the Cushing in Invitational Tournament um and Coach Powers called me from from ASU and he was sunny and warm and I was driving
Through a blizzard so that was probably the first uh first little you know um salesman tool that he used there um but if I’m being like completely honest like at first when he first called and you know he first brought up ASU I I was really hesitant because I like I just
Wanted to play hockey I didn’t want to get like that reputation of being like oh this kid just wants to party or have a good time or like whatever like I just wanted to play hockey I I grew up watching like Cory Schneider was my favorite goalie I wanted to go to BC
Like I wanted to play for New England school um that’s what I wanted to do and it was a pretty big like mindset change to have to wrap my head around ASU but at the end of the day they were the only school that offered me a scholarship and
And gave me opportunity and um they offered me the net and I think that’s something that’s really hard to get in college hockey and I said you know what like you look at all these amazing schools that have big big tradition like the Mantra at ASU was be the tradition
And I like when I look back at it now like I was I feel like a huge part of establishing the tradition at that school and you see how far they’ve come with like the new Arena and joining the nchc next year like it’s pretty incredible and I’m just like honored
That that I was able to help start that and it’s pretty cool to like like it is it says on the wall there at the rank it says be the tradition and I feel like I embody that so it’s pretty cool for me uh who who was it that talked you out of
That like the fact that it wasn’t just a country club did you have to go visit the school or was he like nah n n this ain’t like pool parties every day and like we’re treating it like Club hockey how did you finally get convinced in
Order to go over and I would assume based on your intentions you already you always had the vision of you wanted to go pro in hockey honestly I think um it wasn’t necessarily that I got talked like out of that Country Club like lifestyle I I was pumped for the weather
I didn’t have an issue with that or anything I think just at the time before like when I committed there they had zero games played of division one hockey when I committed there like so you were basically putting your trust in like the athletic department that they were going
To deliver on their promise um and like I said like I I just I really didn’t want to go somewhere where people thought that hey this kid doesn’t really care that much about hockey he just wants to have a good time and play some hockey if it you know if it’s convenient
Like I really like my number one priority was to to be a hockey player and um I think honestly it was my mom who at the end of the day was like Hey Joe like they’re giving you an opportunity with a full scholarship one that no one else is giving you and my
Parents told me they were like you know some other teams uh schools had mentioned ah you know like push game to sh maybe we’ll give them like 50% or 25% and my parents were like hey if you really don’t want to go like you know we’ll we’ll pay for you to go somewhere
Like they were fully on board with um you know whatever I wanted to do but my mom at the in the end of the at the end of the day was the one that told me hey there offering you an opportunity to play an opportunity to to lead that
Program an opportunity to build something from scratch and a full scholarship too which nowadays is it’s very expensive to go to college so oh man at that time it was kind of a no-brainer um when my mom really kind of uh talked to me about it and now when I
Look back like it was a crazy decision but it worked out I I kind of want to stay on this topic though because G you’re always vouching for making Club programs around the around the United States into D1 hockey programs now you talked about the challenges of of taking
It from Club to you know NCA division one you you you think that they obviously fulfilled those promises they’ kind of made to everyone about going to D1 at ASU like did they deliver everything that you expected they would have had to to make it a successful D1
Program and like what were those what were those things that you you felt that it needed in order to get there well I I think it was kind of an abstract idea at first but one of like the things things that that helped me kind of believe that
They could do it was they took me on a tour through the sundevil Athletics Hall of Fame in the football stadium and when you walk through there it’s pretty sweet like it’s there’s Legends in there Phil Mickelson Dustin peda Barry Bonds like there’s Hall of Fame type athletes in
There and that’s just to name a couple there’s a million like you walk through there it’s a legit Athletics program so I wasn’t worried that they weren’t going to be able to execute or get anything done I think like the biggest thing for me is they didn’t have a rink I didn’t
Care about being independent or being in a conference like I just when I think of college hockey I think of these like awesome crowds and fun games and atmospheres and bands and you know the students going crazy and at the time like we played at Oceanside you know
Oceanside that’s where I used to watch you yeah I know I know and and it was like actually my first year I did not like playing at Oceanside at all but then my second and third year we would pack it and like they went way over capacity of what was allowed in there
And like the The Standing Room area in the corner would be like 10 people deep and everyone’s just crushed and having a great time and it was so loud in there because like you could touch the roof with your with your stick so it was just
So much fun and uh actually ended up being pretty sweet but now with the the real rink and mullet it’s everything that you could imagine and hope for in a D1 school so it’s it’s really cool to see it when I would go watch you uh Whit
Mario would be in the corner you cuz his kid was playing on the team so like there was celebrity status in the arena at Oceanside but like you’re right they were Way Beyond capacity like if there was a fire marshall in there they would have been toast oh no chance yeah I I
Said it on the broadcast but Biz uh the I remember the one game he came sou to play against Ohio State and during periods I look over and Biz is walking through our locker room to go take a leak in the bathroom it’s hilarious he’s
Got no shirt on youing going on here in the middle of the room grabbing a power power bar yeah keep kicking keep Jo Jo keep kicking bud thanks for the power bar what’s awesome though is like you’re saying be the tradition being the the you know the the team motto there now
Like guys that are getting recruited are looking like oh Joey dord he was the goalie there like I can go there I can play in the NHL I’m sure Josh Jones going to end up playing in the NHL so in the end as you said it really will be
You or the beginning of it and then not only that but you’re also bringing people in now because a lot of times kids want to see alums that are playing pro hockey at the highest level so it all worked out so well for that’s what’s
So cool about you taking a risk I mean and then ending up kind of delivering on everything including the team delivering for so it’s a great story and now that rink I mean I don’t know how I don’t know how you go out there visit it see
The campus see the girls see the rink and you don’t go there so it’s going to be pretty powerful I think in the next little while and first ever NH NHL contract signed by an ASU player right yeah and game like NHL game too awesome yeah that’s gonna get to Biz yeah also
For devil it’ll be a final for the Mike RoR award as well so congrats on that and Biz I think if athlete row didn’t work for the pitches I think Sardi R might have sealed deal by Arizona State but Joe I I read you didn’t stop playing
Goalie till banam like 13 14 years old how did you end up in the crease I know your dad was a goalie no no that’s that’s not right F okay my dad had me doing goalie lessons when I was like six okay I played I but here’s the thing is
I I I didn’t just like specialize in goalie like when I um for some reason like my I don’t know if it was mass hockey or what but if you played for like a travel team like a triple A team you had to also play for your town team
So I would play goalie for my I think I played double a hockey like I think I played goalie for that team and then I played north and over youth hockey as as a skater so I like skated out until I was you know 13 years old maybe I think
That makes so much sense I was actually talking the other day at my my son’s practice about this in terms of a goenda and you never play anything else like yeah you could become really good at the position and the angles but playing out wouldn’t that help you learn
The game learn how to read the play a little bit more understand what D you’re thinking with the puck and granted you’re really young but I I would think most goalies would really benefit as playing as young kids six seven eight as as playing
Out yeah 100% I mean I I think about it like even on another level like my dad runs a runs a goalie School in Mass Massachusetts and I coached at this goalie school until I was you know a couple summers ago and every summer I’d be on the ice for hours every day
Coaching kids and I think I probably learned more from shooting on those kids and teaching those kids than I did like doing the drills myself so like what’s cool about like the way the curriculum goes is like I would skate in the morning and I would do the drills and
Then I would be teaching it later to younger kids and when I would teach it I’d be like huh that makes more sense you know what I mean and then like just from just from like shooting on goalies I’d figure out like hey like I’m a lefty
Like where am I going to go on a breakway like I’m probably only going to do like these one or two moves and then every time like a lefty comes down I like basic basally and playing it from their point of view like what they’re
Seeing so like I can kind of see like what they’re probably going to do based on the way they’re coming in based on what hand they shoot and what spots are probably open you know what I mean so it’s it’s pretty interesting like I I definitely think that’s a huge thing
Gives you a their perspective right like I feel a certain way in the net but they may be seeing something else and I think that that helps a lot well not only that is you’re also one of the best Puck players as far as goalies in the league
Too right like that’s what what what you’re known for I think yeah I like to get out and help the D I actually think I have the most fun playing the puck more than do anything else like I love Mike Smith I love making a nice breakout
Pass or like a sick play and getting the boys out of the Zone I think that’s like I think it’s sick when when I make a play and then the D are skating up ice yelling back at me like wantan to play like that’s awesome yeah I didn’t have
To get I didn’t have to get lit up and you made the outlet pass for me I can make four million a year till I’m 45 doing this with this guy my Advanced stats are going to be great getting out of the Zone cuz I didn’t have to touch
It yeah I actually I have a question for you and uh I I really couldn’t answer this cuz uh my brother-in-law his son was in net right every kid takes a turn and he he never played hockey he has no idea he said do you have to be like a
Better athlete to play goalie or can you be less athletic than most of the skaters I said I don’t know I think it’s kind of both but would would you know how to answer that right like I think you could be a super athletic go and
That helps then I think you could maybe not be as athletic as like a star forward and still be a good goalie do you know what I mean by that absolutely I think it’s like a really interesting question but I I have like buddies of mine that are like they’re goalies and
They freak athletes on the ice and then you ask them to just like run or throw a football and they look like they’ve never done it in their entire life like like ra this and then I’ve seen guys that are like freak athletes off the ice and they
Get on the ice and they’re just like these robotic goalies I I I don’t really think there’s a specific Rhyme or Reason um I’ve I’ve seen guys I mean like I can think of a couple guys I’ve played with that that are not athletic at all on the ice or off the
Ice you and there’s vice versa as well so I think there’s no like specific formula I think being being big helps being a good skater is like the number one thing I think especially with how good the NHL is now like if you’re just in the right spot most of the time
You’re going to get hit with a lot of pucks and I think that’s being a good skater and being able to read the play is like the biggest thing right now so that’s what I said I said you have to be a great skater to be a goalie and like I
Was with they’re like what are you talking about people who don’t never played I’m like yeah it’s like all your Edge work and then the question got brought up is another one would would a would a goalie Who’s playing out in regular gear would he stick out more
Than a forward who goes in net and is like playing goal in the NHL I think a forward in net would look way worse than a goalie dressed in normal gear playing D what do you think Biz I think like when I used to watch flower go out just skates and like
Normal glove and stick he was pretty good so I would definitely say the player going in net and uh that’s just because that’s because all of them these days are good skaters so if you’re skating decent you might be like well he’s got kind of a weird stride and he’s
Got bad mths but [ __ ] I had bad mths and a weird stride hey or or or me it’s the the goalie the goalie playing out the guy out playing goalie or or just me in general who would look more out of place I just know if I was in net like my
Angles it would I would have no clue you would get exposed at with those ankles especially I used to do that all the time like the flower I used to go out after practice all the time and like I put a tracky on and just go rip pills uh
That was like the most fun after because like in the American League I would do it a lot because you you practice on like Monday and Tuesday and you wouldn’t have a game till like Friday yeah so you could like you could just go actually
Last year so I used to do it all the time in Charlotte and then uh my other my goalie partner in Charlotte was Chris Gibson and then he ended up joining us like after a couple weeks in Coachella last year and we’re down in Coachella and we’re playing two on two after
Practice me and him versus uh Jess Campbell our assistant coach and uh Colin Zulan Alo our goalie coach and Gibby we had visors on Gibby ate a puck in the in the teeth lost two front teeth jibs uh rot Canal the whole s dance yeah sh gets a little more respect from you
Guys now I haven’t played out after practice since that oh yeah yeah you’re done you’re done now um I want to go back to your dad like obviously he was a big support system for you coming up he was a goalie as well now was he one of those
Fathers that that that pushed you like maybe a little bit too much sometimes or was he like hey if you don’t want to do it I don’t care and a very laid-back approach and maybe that’s why you went on to have success he was definitely my biggest influence in my hockey career uh
My mentor like we still will talk almost every day about hockey and not even always just about me just we all we love hockey we’re a big-time hockey family um he I think you know he never like pressured me to be a goalie he never pressured me to be a hockey player but
It was just kind of in my blood um I remember honestly like I was I think I was 12 or 13 years old and um we were driving home from a practice and I don’t know I wasn’t really that sold on goalie like I just I always asked him to play
Out I always asked to like shoe pux I always wanted to score RS um and he looked at me in the car one time and he was like Hey like we you’re 13 years old 12 13 years old like we got to make a decision here if you wantan to be if you
Want to be a skater that’s fine we’ll start power uh power skating we’ll start skills work like no problem and you know up until that point I’ve been doing a lot of goalie training I looked at him I was like Dad I want to play like D1 I
Want to play in the NHL like what do you think I have a better chance of doing and he was like I think you have a chance to be a pretty good goalie and I was like all right well then like I want to be a legit goalie then and and that
Was kind of when we decided and I think he he definitely pushed me really hard but he also knew like when to push me and when to give it to me and also went to back off and be like my dad you know and I think that’s something that’s
Really hard for someone who he is a coach like he’s he’s worked for the Bruins he’s worked for the Leafs he’s worked for the coyotes um you know he’s a goalie coach at beu right now he’s had his goalie coach or goalie school and now it’ll be 25 years this year so it’s
Kind of in his in his blood to be a goalie coach and and I think he he did a really good job of knowing when to switch it on and off and um now it’s really cool as like you know being a pro and and he’s just my dad now and we we
Still talk about stuff and every once in a while we’ll look over a clip or something but he’s just my dad and when we when we get the opportunity to skate in the summer it’s it’s uh really special and just try to take advantage of all of that that opportunity I I’ve
Gotten to know your dad a little bit being around beu this year so they got a goalie in from Brown Matthew Karan the boys call him chewy and your dad’s done awesome with him he loves he loves Co being coached by your dad and like just talking to him really interesting hockey
Mind cuz he’s talking about so many different plays that lead up to the chance against like he knows the game and then I I actually met your mom I think it was their anniversary and your mom said yeah I’m in a hockey rank standard so it was funny but then he was
Explaining he played over in Swiss and that that’s where he met her yeah so my dad played uh three years at marrat college and then um his like grandparents are from Switzerland so he had a Swiss passport which is big for that league right like you need to you
Pretty much need a Swiss pass so you don’t don’t have to use an import card um so he played over there for a while and then yeah met my mom and then dragged her back here and she’s been stuck in hockey rigs for the last 27
Years he he played with big Jim vzy there right for a couple years at I don’t know he definitely yeah oh marac oh yeah yeah yeah as far as uh when you signed with auto you you could have waited a few more months and sort of had
You pick of the litter there if you waited I think four or five more months was it a matter of sort of reciprocating that loyalty back to Ottawa that they had had with you you just didn’t you know want to be loyal I guess uh definitely it was kind of interesting
Like I had a I had a weird Journey like I’ve had a unique journey in my whole career um I actually got drafted my second draft year it wasn’t even my first draft year so I was a 14th rounder um I’m pretty sure they ran out of
People to draft so they were like uh we saw this kid play a few weeks ago at the Beantown classic so I guess we can just take him um when I showed up when I showed up to Camp they uh they had me on the roster as a camp invite they didn’t
Even know they drafted me oh nice okay good start good start yeah so I was like all right sweet I guess I got invited to Camp that’s but I I I didn’t care I couldn’t have been more excited uh they gave me like a tri XX shirt because
That’s all they had left like the my t-shirt was a triple XL I was swimming in it um but I still if you still got it AR will take it wow Ricochet yeah just getting fed he he loves theages the bagg shirt he Lov the bagg baggy
Shirt I’ve kind of done away with him I if you paid attention I kind of Slum down a bit but anyways oh okay sorry sorry never mind keep it I’ll sell it on the truck of my car and we’ll sprit the profits when it came time to sign with
Ottawa I felt like they had put five years into me and really committed like a lot of time and effort and developed me and brought me to a bunch of Dev camps and sent people out to come visit me and um really put a lot of effort and
Time into me and I felt like it was the right thing to do to sign with sign with Ottawa and they also gave me an awesome opportunity to to sign right out of school burn the year play right away in the NHL and I thought that was you know
If you get an opportunity to play a game in the NHL you I feel like you have to take it even though at the time like I definitely was not ready yet to play in the NHL um as a goalie but I may have never gotten that opportunity again to
Play the NHL so that was definitely a huge factor and and absolutely ra like you said just the Loyalty uh I I feel like I’ve always kind of been like a loyalty guy even back to when I was in Youth Hockey all these kids were jumping around playing for different teams I
Always pretty much stuck with the same team um I was never chasing around trying to find the best team or whatever um and I felt like that was really important for me and and all the time and effort they put into me to to sign with them and um you know start my
Career in that Organization for young kids out there that are always kind of chasing that but um with the team this year I mean a real tough start right and like everyone’s kind of what’s going on they had all that magic last year and and obviously like your play has changed everything
But what else you think at the beginning has changed so much to to be on this run now like were guys were guys like gripping the sticks tight did they think it would be easy after getting to the second round like what what do you think’s changed I think I think you kind
Of just said it I mean when you I I was only here for five games last year so I’m not I can’t speak you know to the full season of of the group and I wasn’t here for playoffs um either but I think for anything that you do when you make
It to as far as they did and and you surpass expectations so greatly like they did it’s hard to like show up on game one the next year and be like wait we worked our absolute nuts off to to get to where we did right like this is
Like a group that that thrives off of working hard and work ethic and competing and staying on pucks and battling and like just grinding out as a team and I think when you show up the next year I mean even I think Coachella Valley had a bit of a rocky start at the
Beginning and now they’ve picked it up like you go to the caller Cup finals you go to the second round of the NHL playoffs you you exceed expectations it’s hard to then on game one to the next year be like or to not think oh
Yeah we’re just going to show up and do it again um I think honestly I I don’t think we were playing that bad at the beginning of the year we just like we just kept finding ways to lose here and there it be one goal here one goal there a goal
Called back here and there that didn’t count or whatever and all of a sudden I think you know 25 games in we’ played the third most one goal games in the league like we we were in every single game we were just finding ways to lose
And I think we’re leading the league in um uh overtime losses so if you take half those OT losses and you put them to WIS and we’re chilling right now so we’ve you know we’ve kind of found our groove here the last 10 12 games and we
Started to to play really well I think like I said before we just we’re a hardworking group and when we we need all four lines all 60 in the goalie going every night um and we’ve we’ve kind of found that here lately and it’s
Been a lot of fun to to watch and feel the momentum grow and I think uh the Winter Classic definitely was I think we’re going to use that as a spring board and keep moving forward from there I was going to say that was my first experience of hockey in Seattle and it
Was overwhelming like the fans were incredible now playing in a place like Seattle where the fans are Bonkers were they getting on you guys a little bit at the start of the year or is it one of those those fandoms where they’re they’re positive regardless they’re r or
Die yeah they’re they’re awesome um I mean I think anytime you’re not go it’s not going well there’s going to be a little bit of frustration but I think they still believed in us and believed in the group I mean we returned so many guys that were here last year uh that it
Was only a matter of time before we found our game um and they were right there with us the whole way and they like you said that Winter Classic was absolutely bananas like I couldn’t believe it like coming out of the Dugout and and seeing a full baseball stadium
50,000 people was um it was insane and it’s something I’ll never forget and just to to get the support that we got was like it was out of a movie like literally the next day after uh after the Winter Classic like I came downstairs like we had the day off so
Slept in and came downstairs and then that like Coco cup was sitting on my kitchen island and I like I was like what the like did that just happened that like a real thing you know like taking pictures with Wayne Gretzky and like you know the whole thing shut out
The the Stanley Cup champs like playing on a baseball like it was just like nuts that’s unreal that is unreal Joo before this season I think you had 15 total STS you already have 20 them this year have you had to make any sort of adjustments with the higher workload or you just
Kind of keep the status quo keep doing what you’ve always done I think last year like the playoff run in in Coachella Valley helped a lot like I played 26 straight games in in playoffs which was the most I’ve ever played in a row uh which was nuts and I think I
Learned a lot I remember calling my dad like during that playoff run and telling them hey this is kind of what it’s like to be an NHL starter you know in the American League you pretty much play Friday Saturday Sunday um with a few weekday game sprinkled in so you’re
Never really playing like every game you’re playing you know one one of the two back-to-back games so I remember calling them and and we were playing every other day for the Firebirds and I was saying hey this is kind of what it’s going to be like if if I get the chance
To be an NHL starter and I think the last couple weeks here played every game except for one so I I definitely learned how to do that last year I think that’s awesome I was going to ask anything uh unexpected about the the Winter Classic like did you know
Those fishes were going to be thrown between you guys were you worried about get getting clipped was there anything else that was like oh wow that would that’s that made it even better experience well I think the whole thing was just nuts like we we didn’t really know what to expect
At all they didn’t really tell us a whole lot like we didn’t even know we were going we weren’t going on the ice for the national anthem like they kind of stopped me right at the door and then they pulled out the huge flag for the national anthem that filled the whole
Ice I was like all right well probably not going out there and yeah definitely just like fish getting thrown over my head and then they had a guy dangling from the helicopter for the flyover it was just like a surreal experience and um I thought it it represented Seattle and
And Seattle hockey in an awesome way so it was really cool to like represent the team and the city um in that moment I heard um Ron Francis talking about uh they had a they had a party the night before a dinner for for about 300 people
All your guys family and and everyone that was in town for the game that must have been incredible I mean talk about a great job by the Kraken including everyone and just getting everyone together the night before the game so how was that well the Kraken are first class organization and they take
Unbelievable care of us um we all had so many family and friends in town and um I had my family my brother uh my girlfriend friend and her family um my three best friends from home everyone came and and everyone kind of had a crew
Like that so then when you when you take all of those people and you put them in a room together it was kind of like one big family and yeah we we had a great night and a lot of fun and um had a big dinner with everyone together so it was
A special night and I was sitting there I was thinking uh the night before I was kind of looking around at all the people and I was like it would really suck if we got shell tomorrow and uh ended up working out and being an awesome game and such a fun
Experience for everyone so I’ll never forget that day for the rest of my life so we got a guy part of our Squad Colby Armstrong and um he holds the record for the quickest goal to start a Winter Classic I think it was like 20 seconds into the one in Buffalo with the
Penguins and now now it’s pretty sick man you’re the only goalie to pitch a shut out in one of those games so you’re going to be like him just waiting and waiting every year and once there’s once both teams score yep I still got this thing it’s pretty impressive I I had no
Idea that that was a thing like I I didn’t either I had I had no idea like they kind of told me after and I was pretty shocked I couldn’t believe that but when you’re dabing up Gary bman on your on your way back to the Dugout with the cocoa
Cup and hey and buoy what do you make a buoy that ugly [ __ ] my boy so that’s your boy all right my Bo yeah so all right watch your both Biz yeah sorry I think I think you guys can patch it up I think you can he’s a
Nice guy he’s a nice guy he’s in the hospital I skinned him look at this I skinned him I got I got his skin on right now keep his bat’s name out your [ __ ] mouth piz yeah uh big Tom Brady fan being from the region you were picked
199th like him did did you realize that right away or was it something like that was pointed out to you later down the line um my best friend was actually at my house so my first draft year like I watched the whole draft and Jes I was in
Yeah I was in tears by the end of it it’s just rough like I think I was 14th on the central scouting list which between like The American or North American and international list there’s there’s usually like 40 or 50 goalies between the two lists and about 30 get
Taken usually um 25 to 30 goalies get taken so I was 14 in North America so I thought I had a good chance you know like that’s puts me right probably end of the seventh round and um ended up not getting picked and it was devastated you
Know that’s a really tough day and I was so pumped I didn’t go to the draft like would have been a nightmare um so I said the second year I I was like I can’t do this so me and my me and my best friend Colin uh we went and played golf the
Second year and uh came back from the round and it was just I think it was like halfway to the sixth round and my dad was glued to the TV like marking every goalie that got picked and you know classic and I couldn’t watch I was
Sitting out on the deck um in in my my at my parents house and um me and my dad both got a phone call at the exact same time and that was kind of when we kind of looked at each other and and knew something good was happening so it was
My agent and Ottawa calling so then found out I got picked um and then we saw it was 199 and my best friend col at the time knew right away he goes 199 same as Tom Brady and I was like that’s nut like growing up you know huge Boston sports fan Tom Brady
Fan um just like super cool and at that time and still is probably my claim to fame so pretty sweet yeah keep building that I was gonna ask about going back to college like I asked you on the broadcast you said that pow put a little
Bit of salt and pepper on the story but in your first college game you guys to nor aame and when you played I think you got shelled for nine goals yeah and then partway through the game he asked if you wanted to come out and you’re like no
I’m going to eat it like I want to learn from this yeah so uh my first game we went on the road to Notre Dame and they were loaded like that was they had bork and Cal Peterson was their goalie like they were stacked and we we still had a
Team full of half club guys so we were we were still in transition mode um I remember I got scored on first first or second shift where like they went back door and I came flying over and I was like this is gonna be an unreal save and
They just tapped it back door again and tapped in an empty and I was like ah this is gonna be a rough one but we actually uh I think they went three for seven on five on three power plays like they were on the power play the whole
Game it was a nightmare I think I had 50 50 something shots um after the second period it was like 62 maybe and I was skating off the ice and um coach Powers was like the last one all the guys had gotten off the ice and Coach power was
The last one standing at the door and he goes you want me to take you out and I was like I’m good and kept going and I mean it probably could have gone either way I when I was skating over I thought I was getting taken out for sure um but
You’re like you’re never going to be able to take me off the ice if it’s my choice so um I’m staying in there I saw the vaszy thing a while back like I think it’s kind of a mindset thing for goalies like we want to be in there we
Want to be part of the team um you know I I try to include myself as part of the team always like I don’t try to be the goalie that’s just like an outcast and kind of does his own thing I want to be part of the team that’s it’s a big
Reason why like I stand on the blue line for the national anthem with all the boys like I’m I want to be one of the boys I don’t want to be you know all the special goalie over there does his own thing like I always want to be part of
The group and um you have to pull me off the ice before uh before I come off on my own oh that’s awesome Joe is that like a like a deep down thing you say even though I got [ __ ] tonight I’m not well is it just a matter of not wanting
To quit in the boys like I don’t want to take myself out these are my teammates is is that the difference right there even yeah okay I I think even like when it’s going well and it’s not going well you just I can’t speak for other guys but I
Know my mindset is just like I’ve kind of I’ve got the hoodie on funny enough um I’m just always keep going you know if it’s going well or not you just keep going and keep going and keep pushing yourself and um some nights it’s going
To go your way some nights it isn’t and no matter what like you just can’t give up you’re always got to battle always compete um my High School soccer coach always used to say like you’re never out out of the fight and I love that quote
And um that’s the same kind of thing as keep going you just always keep battling keep competing keep fighting um you know some nights it’s not you’re not going to have it and Coach is going to take you out and that’s fine that’s normal for any goalie but um no matter what you
Always just got to keep going I would have given myself the hook after like a quick one B I give up I would have been like grab me a hot dog from the from the catwalk there and uh bring down a couple Shan shows oh man
Uh is is that kind of what kep kept you going though when like after I think you played in your first game with Ottawa is that when you got injured and had a pretty nasty leg injury so you know you go all of a sudden you go back down to
The miners not the way that you envision your pro career going but through those ups and downs it’s that mentality kind of what kept you going the the the whatever your soccer coach told to you definitely part of it um I’ll kind of give you a long short a long story short
Here but um played my first game right out of school and then uh the next year came back and um I ATA training camp got sent to the east coast League which was a big surprise to me like I you know we were pretty much told beforehand hey
You’re not going to be going to the coast you’re going to be in the American League and um played half of an AHL preseason game and got sent right to the coast so that was a big uh you know wakeup call for me and and went down to
The ECHL I think I played 12 games and went went okay got called up um got to play one game beat Hershey uh 3 to one and played really well and kind of earned the coaches trust in the American League um couple guys got hurt again got
Called back up and then I stayed in the American League the rest of the year and then Co ended the season and um had to resign so I was able to sign a new contract after that and then going to the next year um I was the third goalie
I got called up it was the co short and season got called up both the both the uh first two goalies got hurt I got to play a couple games in a row I played eight games that year and I think I played four games in six days and in the
In the sixth game or in the fourth game there my eighth game of the year I had a high ankle spray and just snapped the ligament in my ankle and those are they’re rough in general but they’re really rough for goalies because of the way we have to Butterfly and then the
Way we have to go into the post and um those are those are not not easy to come back from so I missed the rest of the year and I think both the first two goalies got hurt and then they had come back and they were healthy and I was
Still playing and DJ Smith at the time was like hey you’re playing great like we’re going to keep playing you and I felt like I’d kind of made the NHL almost and I was getting to solidify myself pretty quickly like that was only my second ful year Pro and then I got
Hurt missed the rest of the year and then ended up getting drafted in expansion and pretty much got sent right to the miners after that and then it was two more full years the miners so at the time it was really rough but now when I
Look back at it like the last two years were really what prepared me to take advantage of my opportunity now and you know they say patience is a virtue and I think at the time I was you know pretty rattled about it because I felt like I
Was so close to making it full-time um and establishing myself as a full-time NHL and then took me two years and about 120 more more starts before I got back but um now I’m back and just trying to take advantage of every opportunity and I think it gives you a great perspective
On being Greatful and appreciative of the opportunity and just trying to make the most every minute you know I’ve said it a couple times but it’s not going to go your way every night but if you just battle and compete and um you know be positive be happy have fun enjoy the
Moment moment and be grateful for it it’s um you know I’ve listened to your guys podcast a lot and heard Yan talk about um you know there never a bad day to be in the NHL so um I couldn’t agree more well man I mean if if the Seattle
Fans are are are already chanting Joey after hearing this story it’s incredible man I I love hearing different routes and different different ways to get somewhere so it’s it’s really cool I’m happy for you this is just out of pocket this whole time in the background with a little comment
We’re in the locker room right now I’m going to bust out the helicopter [ __ ] here for this interview this was a 10 out of 10 right now right right right R oh always bus you’re never in Pocket as a projo what’s the best office office
Advice your dad gave you and best on I advice from your dad as as a pro um I my dad and I always talk about cuses and like anytime something bad happens to you it’s just another callus and another you know opportunity to learn from it um we’ve talked a lot a
Lot a lot lately about a a specific quote by Kobe Bryant um and he talks about you know whether you win or you lose you wake up and you go to practice again the next day and I think that’s something that you know maybe not in in
That specific way it was said but we’ve always just talked about learning from the the uh negatives um growing through the positives and and just always trying to um become better and always you know never being complacent never being satisfied always trying to get better there’s always something you can do um
There’s always ways to improve no matter how well you played or um you know if it didn’t go your way and I think uh that’s something off the ice we’ve always talked about is just embracing it embracing the grind um you know more calluses more like I think about that
Nine goal game and I remember I came up after the game and said to my dad I think I played pretty good and and uh I had my guy you know yeah and and uh you know at the same time also OB was like
But there’s a lot that I can work on and this is going to be a lot of fun so you know it was it was a long road and especially even now when I look back at like ASU My First Year to my third year
When we we went on that magical run and made the NCAA tournament just the growth that happened for myself and as through the team and the the program there was magical and now to to be in my fifth year Pro and still humming around is pretty special we’ve kept this interview
Pretty like hockey Centric what do you do out side of hockey what are your what are your weird Hobbies golf um yeah I definitely play some golf with the boys in the summer um honestly I’m I’m like a big Sports guy I like me and my brother
Play tennis all the time play soccer like I was a three sport captain in high school I played hockey soccer and Tennis so Jes um I I love playing sports like I still honestly wish like I had time to play soccer and tennis and football and
You know I try to make that a big part of my workouts just like being athletic and doing other things and not just being super hockey Pacific um so yeah play a lot of sports and get out and be active and definitely get in the sun do
You have a Premier League team yeah I’m a man united guy sorry Whit oh Jesus Christ we’re terrible though we so are we so are we so I wi right now I haven’t even checked the score we’re playing Wigan in the FA Cup and I’m just like praying they don’t lose because they’re
Not even in the Premier League right now Wigan dude and like they played their like actual starting 11 too which is like horrific in the f one nothing in the 60th minute so at least it’s looking okay for you right now well I think the only thing that could could could bring
This thing to a screeching halt is you hitting up Chipawa Street tonight so stay away from there and keep this thing buzzing man it’s been an absolute pleasure talking to you I’m real happy it’s a great story and and continue all the success thank you yeah it’s been a
Lot of fun and hopefully we’ll uh we’ll keep this thing going absolutely thanks a bunch Joe thanks guys thank you very much to Joey dord I hope everyone enjoyed that interview as much as we did um interviewing him and and the story he actually told us after we
Were just shooting the [ __ ] uh waiting for the things to download is um in terms of his adversity and what he dealt with and how long of a a route he’s taken to get to the NHL was so he couldn’t get a scholarship and there was
A college he asked us not to name that said listen if you come up and and have an official visit we want to offer you a scholarship and he said oh no doubt so him and his dad drive up and the team actually mentioned the school mentioned
There’s two other kids that we want to talk to and we want to have come look at the school can you drive them up as well so him and his dad right they’re the Ubers they they bring these two kids up so there’s three players going up and
The two kids they bring up they get offered scholarships and dord goes in to meet with the coach and he says H we will not be offering you a scholarship like uh all right you just had me drive up these two guys you promised me one
Six hours each way by the way 6 hours each way so figure out the school where which school you think it is based on um and over Massachusetts they won’t be making a a granelli college visit through the locker room maybe you will but leave a dump in their [ __ ] toilet
Little honestly that school I I I I don’t think you’d ever be going up there for a chicklet to you anyway so Joey dord though I hope everyone enjoyed that I mean what a humble person and I I love hearing stories of kids who have battled
It and stayed positive and you can tell his relationship with his dads meant so much to him but as I said in the interview it’s a marathon not a Sprint don’t ever forget that no matter who you are so I I love talking to him and I
Wish him all the best yeah so especially for a current player like so many takeaways from the interview about like how uh how good it is for a goalie to play the other positions to maybe understand like the structure aspect and what else it can do like Puck Puck
Playing ability and uh an incredible story learned a lot and uh thank you to Joey Joey Joey for coming on yeah Biz he was very thoughtful with his answers too I noticed but uh another member of his goal Union Ma flurry great night for him the other night he tied Patrick W 551
Wins uh his next Victory will put him number two behind Martin broor 691 a wild way he got it too looked like the game was going to be over Columbus had an empty net missed it after his attempted Superman dive and save go down
The other end tie it win it in OT just a great accomplishment Whit I know he’s your old teammate you wanted to chime in here as well yeah an an amazing feat um an amazing guy we’ve talked about flurry probably as much as any other player on
This podcast since it began just how enjoyable he is to to be around the type of player he is type of guy in the room but what I thought was crazy was the fact that you know he’s playing in Kate Bretton in the Quebec league and he gets
Picked first overall he has this Hall of Fame career and the Night Comes to tie Patrick W for the alltime wins and who does he do it against his Junior coach Pascal Vincent who’s now the coach of the Columbus Blue Jack it’s like what are the chances that his Junior coach
Ends up being behind the bench and I think he actually had Vincent had a quote after he’s like at that point I said [ __ ] just take it like he he just knew he saw the kid when he was 17 years old he saw the talent and the desire and
It just all comes full silic for him to to Tai wall in front of his Junior coach so that that was a pretty cool story and pretty ironic and still pranking I’ve been pranked twice by by uh flurry uh in the NHL we had that uh there was like a
Dinner with all the fans and maybe some of the sponsors and then he sewed my pant leg in half and then and then my uh whatever I had in my pockets in my pocket ET so I couldn’t get in my pockets but they were still there and
Bulky and then when we were in the AHL I think that was the time he should have been in the NHL but the bonuses were so much that he was getting that they sent him down and uh I had this hot date that was going to arena bar and
Grill and I was talking in the locker room about her big old tints on her blonde and I thought it was so cool so we’re in the bar and he didn’t go out to the bar that night but I I parked my truck truck out front cuz I drove there
I wasn’t going to drive home obviously but he [ __ ] a toilet toilet paper and like paper toweled the entire thing with all this like shaving cream so I came out and like I you had to like and I was leaving it there so you come back the
Next day it’s caked on you got to drive to the place you got to hose it all down so obviously we all walked out at the same time with the boys and and I was the butt of the joke and never ended up getting laid so thanks a lot flower I
Mean he he’s got like half my family Sho checked my father for Christ sake no he didn’t yeah he did where he was crawling under the table on the dad’s trip in New York just a big old thing of butter on my dad’s fresh do Martins o flower never
Stopped no he never stops still doing it too uh we can’t wait for Toronto man Allstar Weekend it’s going to be a blast they did announced the first 32 players on ESPN the other night not going to go through them all you can easily look them up online um they eight players
Making their first appearance uh they’re going to elect another 12 players eight skaters and four goalies they’re going to be voted in by fans on nhl.com or the app hopefully they work and their votes go through uh four teams are going to be drafted on February 1st uh two of the
Captains we know of right now McDavid and Nate Dog they’re also going to have celebrity captains involved as well uh one of the there was actually some real nice Clips going around too the uh the one with Frankie vatrano his wife and daughter of course you know he’s been
Around for a bit his first allstar game congrats Frankie another masshole out there uh but then Tom Wilson he found out from his dad they had a little video conference and just a great moment Willie second Allin and B sorry Whit I know you want to talk about the capitals
Here for a second another thing that happened over the weekend yeah well that video was great Wilson’s dad um and he mentions you know you’re you’re you’re we’re from Toronto we’re all going to be there your 95-year-old grandfather is going to be so excited so I can’t
Imagine what that’ll mean to Tom Wilson and it goes into that clip Sunday after the Caps had a huge win against the uh the Kings the lock of the century gave me the lock of the century then I gave it out to everyone else and I got smoked but no worries all right
Everyone gives out an occasional loser you’ve been hot but this clip that I tweeted of Spencer carbury talking to the team after it made me miss playing hockey more than anything I’ve seen in quite a while first off I don’t know anything about Spencer carbury they just came off a win
When coaches are happy and fun to be around he seemed like the man first he talks about Nick Dow’s line he looks over at Nick Dow your line was unbelievable all night and then the Camera Pants a doubt he’s like hides his his spitter he’s got a dip in he hides
His spitter so that’s part of locker room the boys getting in a dip in then he pumps John Carlson s for his 500th career point which was the game-winning goal with about a minute left playing La at home huge win then he goes over and
He talks about um keer and how good he’s been right and then he talk then you see Tom Wilson he’s got his nose stuffed with with uh whatever it is the gauze he’s bleeding everywhere Willie that’s how it to be tough and come on back it was just it was everything that that
That it means to be on a team whether I’m not even talk about just the NHL it’s like you come into the room after a win you see one guy hey great block out there you played unbelievable tonight you say of the goal you were kicking dude awesome job guy who gets the
Game-winning goal he gets the belt it’s just being in a locker room is the best thing in the world and you get to see all these different personalities they’re all buying into the same goal one goal and winning and I think that that team has done such a great job of
Starting horrific with a new coach they’re they have like not much offense Obie’s had a down year but they somehow continue to get it done and and just seeing like all different aspects of a team after a win in All in One Clip with
A coach given a hell of a speech it was just phenomenal to witness phenomenal to see and it made me really miss being a being a hockey player because the locker rooms where you have the best memories um you know post win it’s all happy it’s
All it’s all joy and it’s a bunch of music being blared so I thought it was great to see and good for the capitals and congrats to Tom Wilson well said withy boy it was just remember the locker room after a big remember the locker room in wils bear
That’s how I feel right now after the Sunday game three and three you got Monday off take me back I would let you break both of my legs to go back in time for there right how good did the beers taste after that oh my God you haven’t
Eaten anything you’re buckled after a couple you’re laughing with the fellas you got a couple fish in the line you got a couple fish in the line Biz your car’s get your car’s getting toilet paper by one of the doesn’t matter though the blonde with the bomb showed
Up doesn’t matter hockey pops are cold at Arena arena bar grill we’ve somehow managed to finagle this podcast into a zoom locker room and I still miss the real thing that’s how I feel right now Ra was humming out of the gate with the hello you knew he was bringing his a he
Was telling us how good he used to be he was like the stick boy hey hey but hey I got pictures to back it up so G you looked like a hockey player you looked like you good good geare you looked like a five and 23 kind of guy with 28 points
Just under a point a game in your senior year they had three they had three captains though three C’s okay what a c and two a three C’s he couldn’t even get an A I told WT too I already messaged my science teacher and the Burlington TV network looking for game footage for
From 2010 2011 so we’ll see your gear setup was nice all B I know head to toe baby what about the pants bow too bow pants too were you a shell guy or a full pants they gave they made us wear a blue shell red white and blue awesome cover colors
The Red Devils of Burlington what a logo J panalo star Burlington High went on to play in the NHL win Stanley Cup so it’s it’s a power program I’ll say that power program I’ll say this my D partner did go on to play at bu he’s playing in
England right now Brian diffley so comeback time you guys are the Red Devils up there yes yep wow Chelsea might have something to say about that better watch Chelsea has a hockey team well the the chel the Chelsea Red Devils that’s the that’s their uh I didn’t even
Know Chelsea had like a sports program a [ __ ] yeah we we got to before we get off the All-Star stuff we got to talk about all of a bork strand I mean he gets told by hack stall he’s made the All-Star team and it was like uh did they just
Tell his dog got run over something so it was like he got sent down yeah exactly to the coast right to the coast and you know everyone had a laugh about it then he had he come out on Instagram and said no no I’m very happy
About it you know to go and then he had the a picture of his canceled reservation he put on his Instagram oh the looked beautiful too they had a nice little backyard but he did mention on that post he said ask my wife like I I’m not great at like receiving good news
Like you can’t tell I’m very excited to go to Toronto and not get to do the skills and get to sell popcorn in the stands cuz that’s the plan Biz wants for the non8 non2 guys that are playing for a million popcorn here get your beer get
Your popcorn hilarious all he won’t be making much in sales a bork he doesn’t have much of a pulse that’s that’s sometimes what makes these guys so skillful and good on the ice though is because like they’re just chill calm cooled and demeanor he didn’t have the
Best of reactions that was that was why would they post that I know yeah yeah well why would they just keep that one in the holster yeah they knew to set it up for the [ __ ] maybe he asked him to to post it hoping that the league would resend the
In do you think do you think that we should should pump the the breaks on these type of announcement videos I’m just asking not not before we pump the breakes on the return to the team big big screen like welcome back like let’s address that first before we
Address oh you’re saying a guy who played 100 games for the organization they got guys they got guys playing 20 games coming back and getting a big old like standing ovation like get the family there the flowers for the wife oh Jonathan Qui definitely deserved it from
Columbus wi what are you talking about that was hilarious when they that was good stuff uh congrats to didn’t he get one from the Bruins that was a hell of a playoff run yeah oh yeah that seven games was so amazing I mean he played awesome but I
And I don’t know if he definitely got one but that would be one it’s like come on what are we doing here since uh sixth All-Star Game in 19 Seasons uh it seems like it should have been more I know he had some injuries but want to give him a
Congratulations and also congrats to Conor McDavid uh when he put up a goal and four assists versus Philly last week he became the fifth fastest NHL to reach 900 points uh he got it done in his 602nd game only four guys ahead of him Gretzky in 385 Mario in 463 Mike bossy
In 582 and Peter Stasney in 599 just a number he keeps taking down bretzky getting 900 points at 385 games it’s crazy ridiculous that ain’t being broke absolutely Oben that that one that one safe 385 games but what’s Most Fascinating about McDavid is each hundred he’s gotten how he’s closing in
On the amount of games it takes him to get done I think he’s broken his record every time on to the next 100 points the next 100 points yeah right is that not the what’s so special about him R I don’t know if you have the stat for that
One I yeah my mat’s not good as As We Know But I mean he’s [ __ ] unbelievable dude what what what can you say about MC I don’t know the Oilers the Oilers have Um they have 41+ 5 is they have 46 games Left I think 75 points is like safe for him if he plays the last 46 games like you got to think 75 is like probably standard so then all of a sudden he’s going to be at a, 10 games into next year it’s it’s nuts and it’s it’s truly
Amazing every night to watch him and and he has the haters out there win a cup do something get it but if you’re strictly just like a hockey fan and you watch an Oilers game there’s there’s 10 plays a night that are insane uh a guy I do pt
With my buddy cam he went to the devil’s game when when Edmonton was in town and Edmonton had just got blown out by the Islanders 5-1 and he never got to see McDavid play in person actually he was down his friend uh he works with the
Devils as like their PT guy I don’t know the exact title he Has but he’s walking out and boom he bumped into MC David he he buried MC Dusty right before the game he said he’s very polite I apologize I apologize but he said just getting a
Watch him in person he’s like the stuff that you don’t even notice on TV the quick cutbacks the little like 5 foot dishes exploding into open space like it’s actually a joy to watch the guy play and I and I and I don’t think we’ve ever seen anyone that Dynamic and that
Fast with the puck and I don’t know if we ever will again yeah it’s a treat to cover the sport I’ll tell you thatch tag speaking of treats B right sheets not sure if this guy’s quite Cactus Club across the street too we’re going to bring him on anyway
Part of the mall did you see the clip of uh Jason Gregor asking him um hey when it snows like are you the guy out there in the morning shovel in the driveway or like you got a snowplow and he’s he like kind of hemmed and hot he’s like I I got
A heated I got a heated driveway so it’s not an issue okay I like that who’s who who is the guy who was getting oh no the everybody reads Spectre he got Pitch and tossed again he did yes oh bad Tor everybody read he was asking torch
About McDavid and dryad he goes I don’t I don’t want to talk about the other team I want to talk about my own get pitch and toss by coaches too oh yeah oh yeah Spec’s had a tough year we’re still trying to get him on the Pod he pigeon
Toss Whit last time but I always like getting the you know the old boys club as far as the joural like maybe you think we could get Steve Simmons on sometime I think Speck and Simmons are guys that are Furious when the Oilers and the Leafs are doing well like they
Make their bones when those teams are playing like [ __ ] you know what I mean we should do a combo pod where we get get them each for 45 we get seven downloads no I think we would double I think people would love to know what I mean if spe if spec brought the
Noise and the heat like he did on the phone call when you called him I think that we’re getting double download yeah he might get he might get more than he might get more than the Wayne pod everybody reads spec everybody [ __ ] reads spec buddy everybody reads spec
We’re doing this 35 years everybody reads Pasha too right G where’s that where’s thaty pull that curtain back we got Mr Posh coming on what’s up boys what’s going on man your team holy [ __ ] buddy they’re going through it right now man it’s [ __ ] they got like 13 guys
Injured right now I’ve never seen anything like it this year they they get healthy for a game and all of a sudden boom their next best players out and I sent you that list you know hire Hamilton Meyer Hughes poot it’s just it’s crazy but they’re still in the
Playoff spot just shows you how resilient they are and uh they’ll be all right they’ll be all right Posh isn’t it Story Time what I heard you had a doozy for us this week yeah yeah really special story from last week um coming back from Seattle with Biz and the Gang
We had a great time there and um uh my little buddy Raph who is uh Joey su’s brother we’ve talked about Joey on the show Good Friend of uh of Biz and I and Ralph is the son of the late Donnie suste also friend of the show uh great
Guy we’ve talked about Lots we all miss him um so Raph turned 11 on January 1 and then he just so happened to be in Vancouver for one night the next night last Tuesday before he went up to Colona for a little skiing trip um the cans
Happened to be playing Ottawa that night and weno had come down from Seattle to see talk and and you know meet him during the day and watch the game and whatever so um I took uh I took Raph to the game and I’d been talking to with
Son Tristan shout out to Tristan who’s an absolute Beauty and you mentioned the possibility of you know potentially meeting up with Wayne after the game and introducing Raph and all that but I didn’t want to get raph’s hopes too up so you know I I mentioned you know
Wayne’s at the game maybe we can meet him and every 30 seconds he looks at me he goes are we meeting Wayne later are we meeting Wayne later and I’m like we’ll see we’ll see maybe maybe so take him to the game canox are up like 5
Nothing in the first eight minutes like it was like the wildest start to a game I’ve seen so Ral is just loving it um and then after the second period Tristan texts me and says hey come meet us at this section we got seats for you so we
Go meet them he kind of Wheels us down to this little like this new sick Lounge they’ve built like right underneath the benches like behind and uh super cool like restaurant seating like you know top of the line so we go he kind of leads us in there and who’s sitting at
This little round table Wayne Gretzky and Chad Krueger so we sit down introd photograph exactly exactly and these guys are so nice like I knew Wayan how nice he was but I was very impressed with how friendly Chad was to Rafi he’s asking him questions rafi’s telling him
How you know he plays the drums they’re talking about that wayneo’s shooting the [ __ ] with him and you know Ral looks at me and he’s like wow like Wayne knew my name and he’s just like he’s in heaven so third period starting and Wayne goes
RF like come with me like let’s go sit in the seats so RF ends up sitting between Chad and and and uh and Wayne and of course you know on the broadcast they’re they’re showing Wayne every 30 seconds so Raph is getting blown up my phone’s getting blown up with photos of
People being like is that Raph on TV like sitting beside Wayne and Chad Krueger it’s It’s the funniest photo ever um so so that happened that was incredible and after the game you know Raph comes in and he’s just like he’s in shock at this point but you know the the
Night of treats wasn’t over for him because we went down to the locker room after that and I introduced him to Quinn he got to meet Quinn Quinn was nice enough to give him a signed stick which was awesome he got to meet besser Pon toet you know joking around with the
Guys you know they you know they gave him the time of day Quinn was joking with him because Raph had a coyote sweater on he’s like man I should have given you a new sweater too so just the guys were just very friendly joking with him and it was honestly such a special
Night um I had as much fun as he did it it was a great night and I was joking with Ral that you know he’s famous now he’s on TV and funny enough for walking out of the rink going to my car and this guy comes up he goes hey you’re the kid
That got to me meet Gretzky right like yeah this guy’s like man I’ve worked in live TV for 20 years like this is the only time I’ve ever been Star Struck meeting Wayne like you’re so lucky this is incredible and so that was just a
Funny way to cap off what was a truly special night for Raph and you know like we mentioned he’s been through a lot this was his first birthday since his his dad Donnie passed and it was just you know I felt very fortunate to just be able to experience such a special
Night with so um yeah shout out to Wayne and and to Chad and to Tristan and to you Posh good for you couple clicks me like I said I had as much fun as Raph I had I had a blast so and ra a little brother to me so
So did you see JT Mill I was wondering the same thing did you see GT did did he make was hiding posha went in once JT went to the gym so I don’t want to unnecessary fuel to this fire that’s kind of got out of control but
But as the players are kind of walking out I’m sitting there filming Ral he’s leaning over kind of give him the fist bumps and Miller’s walking by and we locked eyes for a couple seconds and there was a bit of a stink eye there I
There was a bit of a stink out there and I I sent screenshot from the video I was filming and you can see him looking security this [ __ ] how he get down here he probably got distracted by the Light coming off that five head of yours oh posha that’s awesome you did
That for him though yeah that’s such a cool moment ra I had as much fun as him like I said it was it was a great time he might be the most photogenic kid too in the world he’s such aute great looking kid and and you know what like
He’s not your typical 10 11 year old like he is just so mature he grew up around the boys Donnie didn’t baby him he was around Joey just like hearing the guys talk like this kid is so Advanced he is going to be such a weapon down the
Road like SC it’s scary yeah even Wayne and Chad were saying they’re like the eye contact when this kid’s talking to us he’s like this kid does not seem like he’s 11 like no it’s truly like he’s a special kid you know I’m lucky to to
Know him and uh yeah it was it was awesome rafy suste has a has an IMDb page for his appearance in a Watson gloves commercial yeah yes he does him and Donnie yeah oh those are separate commercials separate commercials but rafy got the part cuz we couldn’t
Implement him in the one where we were throwing his old man through a wall that’s true yeah we ow him one yeah he he he was the Watson glove CEO we made him where I come in I slap him in the face with the gloves so so that was the
One acting scene that Donnie superstein got I don’t know how many people listening have seen the the first and second wats and glove commercial but it was so fun to get him implemented in that and rafy what a what a what a great kid thanks for coming on and sharing
That with us thanks for having me boys thanks for was nice to not be hostile and confrontational for once yeah this was nice I know this is like a different posture right now yeah Kum you know what 2024 it’s it’s the new me boys get used
To it well wait till somebody else goes on the IR on the on the devils and he’s [ __ ] all of us saying it’s our fault somehow Posh no no lie no no word of a lie no [ __ ] since you’ve come on for the segment JT Miller just scored
A goal swear I swear power was it on the power play it pasha’s Pasha will never give into this and he just continues to score and continues to peek and continues to get five on five points and I don’t know when you’re going to finally admit you
Were wrong about I just said we had a nice Kumbaya talk I don’t want to dive into this real cherry on top the real cherry on top would be this being an even strength goal it was it wasn’t easy wasn’t even Str 19 on the year awesome
19 on he makes 8 million a year I would hope he would score an even strength get him off it get him off n n hey boys this been a fun part I think we got what one or two big topics and that’s it yep yep couple more here uh
Pwhl off to arousing St unbelievable stuff for the ladies uh Ottawa versus Montreal January 2nd it set a record for the highest attendance in women’s Pro Hockey with uh 8,38 people 4 days later uh Minnesota hosted Montreal and shattered that previous record when 1,300,000 who who who whoa whoa whoa
Whoa whoa whoa major major major trade alert here boys what I’m shocked uh Anaheim has traded Jamie Dale in a 2025 second round pick to Philadelphia for cutter gotier fifth overall pick what what just won a World Juniors gold medal just World Juniors in scoring you know what’s funny you know what’s
Funny I had somebody reach out this is the same guy who told me that there was going to be a player suspended for gambling 2 weeks before Pinto went down this is the same guy who told me neander dad was stopping the deal from happening no [ __ ] this guy
Told me during the gold medal game that there’s a star us player that will not and has already said he will not sign with the team who drafted him it had to be cutter gothier guys I said this in the season preview and you guys all told
Me to [ __ ] off I said hey do we pay any M into cutter gotier not going to Philadelphia Flyers camp and right away you’re like [ __ ] it not a story move on well no no because it’s because he’s a college kid right yeah you were talking
About going to training it was mini camp mini camp development Camp he could have went and he didn’t go which was weird oh maybe I just understood it so he told Philly I’m not signing with you that’s why they traded him I don’t know why I
Don’t know why the guy the guy didn’t fill me in he actually he wouldn’t even give me the name he wouldn’t give me the name and then obviously it was him so cutter galtier refused to sign with with Philly and gets traded to dude another stud forward for them according to
Elliot Freedman he wouldn’t even meet with the Flyers at World Juniors oh man bring me the te the new NHL the new NHL is rock hard I love this [ __ ] these guys aren even in the league yet and they’re saying we have a podcast we get to talk about this [ __ ] guy’s not
Even playing he must hate Tor [ __ ] we did TS okay we did interrupt the pwhl talk you were going over the insane numbers and this deserves to be talked about so maybe afterward we can go back to this cutter go given the double barrel to the Philadelphia faithful at
Least imagine when he goes back to that but one game a year hey one game a year you can put up with it you’re not going to a division rival but you said 8700 was the first record that was set and then it was what 13,000 first one was 8318 uh and then
Four days later in Minnesota 13316 fans packed the XL Energy Center how about Grace zwi a local gal put up a natural hattrick 3 nothing win for Minnesota place is going nuts to you see I mean when I think an hour before the game a bunch of little little girls
Holding up the signs and stuff and you know if anyone has maruso was at the game I think with his daughter and I tweeted out about about the the off the Hop Vibe for this league is incredible and I think all the times we talked about professional women’s hockey it was
Just it was such a cluster [ __ ] right there was different leagues there was no leadership there was there was no sort of direction now now all of a sudden they got these girls they’re all bought into the same system the same league I think it is the fastest growing
Women’s sport in the United States for good for a good reason and this this could be it guys we finally probably have a chance to see the women’s game on the same Level Playing Field working towards the same goal of growing this game and it’s amazing to see the turnout
And it doesn’t seem like it’s just off the Hop like I think it’s going to continue that way now I think the the most ideal thing would be able to get eyeballs on TV and the games get decent numbers in terms of ratings that’ll take a little while but just the absolute
Like Madness around the league beginning is great for this Sport and great for all these girls who are so much better than they were back in the day I mean that the talent level in the NHL is the same way with the women they’re just becoming better stronger faster and last
Week we mentioned the physicality is great I think that really I think that really brings in people that maybe wouldn’t have watched prior and it seems to that the girls wanted as well so I love this start and I’m happy for them well the numbers I mean ra I think that
In Canada they aired across CBC sportset and and maybe the the broadcasts go on but it reached over two million views didn’t it yeah yeah they got huge views up in Canada and also Patrice berson uh here in Boston uh he come out with his three kids they dropped the first Puck a
Nice little ceremony but here a great idea Biz I think the NHL could probably borrow or steal from him to maybe get a little more Revenue what they’ve done you know when the players walk in you know with their for the what their coffee holding their coffee get ready
For the game they actually have the walkin sponsored uh in the women’s league so you know you know what I mean like whoever sponsor the show so when they come in with their fits they that’s one of the biggest things too and like hey not only do they want a good stable
League to play in they want to be compensated to what they should be being compensated so this all this stuff helps and I think that the the table has been set it’s great to see best on best now and they got the original six and I
Think it’s just a matter of time before they have more franchises pop up and like you guys said I think that this is probably something that you could see maybe being streamed on ESPN down the road or some or or I don’t know I don’t
Know if tnt is going to have a streaming service that would carry something like that at a certain point but I would imagine making it more accessible from a league standpoint and and maybe not just north of the border and and they’re utilizing YouTube Biz they’re utilizing YouTube very well obviously YouTube’s a
Free platform for everyone they’re streaming some stuff on there and I think that’s super important like right now just get it out to everyone everyone needs to see the game hooked exactly get him hooked why every kid every little girl is on YouTube so stream it there um
And the ask is out for Sarah nurse we’re going to get her on the Pod to talk about everything that’s going on with the pwhl and uh and dig a little more into it I’m going to see if I can actually hit up a game I think it’s
Toronto vers Ottawa this Friday or maybe no sorry it’s a Saturday MAA because I’ll be doing uh Hockey Night in Canada that night again oh you’re back baby yeah going back second one taking over Juice’s seat it’s going to be [ __ ] flaming after those uh comments toward
Nick cousins so I got a lot to live up to sucks I can’t do it with him but uh you know in due time so I would love to go check out I think the game starts at one o’clock Toronto vers Ottawa and uh C Sarah Nur in action so great job
Everybody everybody who’s supporting it and uh some great news there yeah once they get you know they don’t have nicknames and logos yet I’m not sure what the reason behind that was but once they get that stuff man that’s so much more D although waiting to decide a good
Team name and nickname is thanp into that end up getting F of and ridiculed so it’s like take your time it’s not like you need one right away and then you end up figuring out as opposed to rushing to something then being called the Washington commanders oh worst that’s a bad one
Horrible or the Cleveland Guardians the Guardians done so just just to go back to that trade we mentioned before the internet is heavily heavily saying that the Ducks won the trade well I learned the hard way of bringing drid stale name up along with zis for Dalene people are
Not a fan of his game um he’s been inj you’re also in a position where one guy is saying that he’s not going to come so it kind of looks like the the Adam Fox situation where it’s like yeah the better player went to the team where you
Got what I’m saying I think anaheim’s going to be a wagon in three seasons maybe less uh do you think Dr uh drale not being signed at the beginning of the year with may may have facted in the reason he was traded from manaheim like
I think that uh you look at Pipeline and what Philadelphia needs and you need a puck moving defenseman coming up and I think that that’s what they’re assuming that he’s going to be um I I just what what does this guy have against the Flyers like what do you that’s what I
Want to know what the hell is the T there did Jonesy chirp his old man back when they played in the NHL against each other as Flyers so so Frank slli has now said sources say cutter go informed the Flyers organization that he did not want
To play in Philadelphia wow I love that I love that for no particular reason but just [ __ ] the balls man well so his dad plays for the Flyers uh he got traded from Phoenix in 056 so he finished the year in Philly then he played 0607 with Philly only
Played 43 games and then 0708 they sent him to the miners and he played the whole season in the AHL and then the next season was his last year in the league he played for the LA Kings so obviously some bad blood within in the family there maybe I don’t
Know should probably start a rumor if we don’t hear by the next pod I don’t know what are you guys thinking what are you guys thinking we have to start a rumor about this okay we give him seven days we got to get him on the Pod though we
Dad hung out with hartell down too much and was just getting smothered and you know Scotty AR’s old school and who knows that’s R boys just making dark Town especially in the winter a little bit of sad news from the hockey world boys Cornelius Dennis Mad Dog Madigan he
Famously portrayed Ross Mad Dog Madison in the best sports movie of all time slapshot he passed away last week at 89 uh his castmate Steve cson who portrayed number 17 Steve Hansen on the Charlestown Chiefs uh he shared the news in a Twitter post last week that also
Noted that Madigan was the oldest rookie in the NHL history at a 38 years old he made the NHL so uh condolences to his family and friends again what a legacy to be in the movie slapshot I mean the clip of him getting on the ice just
Giving the middle finger to the crowd the whole time yeah unreal never traveled anyway out his lawyer uh Sam small print lineman as well with which is just one of those great lines and [ __ ] slapshot they throw in uh on a personal level I I just I had a older
Friend of mine pass away a few days ago uh Johnny buckee head cins when I bought worked on the bar was uh with tab on the walk like 20 years ago it’s not usually in your 20s you become friendly with a 60y old guy but uh he was a local guy
Used to hang out the bar all the time and uh we had a little something in common we used to go for walks around the block together and he just became a good pal I would hook him up with some bud here and there over the years and he
Passed away last week and uh it’s it was hot break he was 85 years old and he was struck by a vehicle uh and passed away uh some time later so it’s obviously sucks to lose anybody but in that age in that manner it made it heartbreaking so
I just want to uh send my my condolances and love out to his family and friends uh Johnny was a great guy and I love you Mission Buckethead so I just want to give him a little tribute um now for a little comedy Jersey Jerry last week 37
Hours online uh 2600 127 Strokes uh millions of people United on Twitter and he finally hit his hole in one Biz how much were you wrapped into this were you checking in on it frequently people are watching this guy sleep 30,000 people um yeah I think it’s remarkable
That this was the probably the biggest story in the world for probably a three-day period And I don’t know a ton about Jersey Jerry’s history but this guy was trying to make a hole in one CU we have a lot of people who listen to our podcast who might not follow the bar
Stool world you might not be on social media but Whit I’ll hand it over to you to maybe explain a little bit deeper or grenell who this jersey jery character is how it came to be where he was going to try to hit a hole in one on a golf
Simulator and I want to say a hole at Pebble Beach like a famous Par 3 and how he ended up taking over the internet to where Tom Brady was emotionally invested the PGA was invested Liv golf was in any top golfer in the world other than Tiger
Woods was invested in this along with like you said R kind of bringing the internet together where it seems to be a very dark place lately oh it basically B like live in PGA were like that picture of the Bloods and the Crips holding up the flags Jerry Jerry United live in PGA
Yeah that’s a good M well he started um I I don’t really know how he got hired at bar school I know he used to do stuff with like Bob does Sports um that guy’s hilarious and I don’t know if he used to like do podcasts with him I wasn’t exactly sure
But he he’s electric right like he he has a video of him um he’s a diard Steelers fan he has a video of him that went crazy viral before he worked at bar stool after the Steelers lost he’s like screaming and yelling and you got to
Check that out but he ends up getting hired he’s been awesome and and recently he started since the Chicago office was opened he does Wednesday night’s uh Jersey Jerry after dark something like that where he does kind of crazy um not competitions but basically basally his chat from his YouTube channel like kind
Of decides what he’s going to do so like one night say he had to hit like 10 three-pointers and under a minute and basically he said on all these I’m not leaving till I get it and there’s been there’s been several of them where he’s probably taken four to five hours and
Some of them have involved like eating brutal food like every 30 minutes there’s just been all these different sort of things to get to get more subscribers to his YouTube channel and the chat’s very involved it’s pretty funny stuff I’ve watched some of them so then he came out and said this Wednesday
Night I I I’m doing a special you know I I ain’t leaving till I get a hole in one on the simulator I think he he said if he hits 50k Subs he’ll he’ll do the uh simulator okay so he wanted 50k subs and and and and and that that happened so he
Decided to do it now when this broke out like I saw a boy Hank the producer of pardon my take he said uh I think it’ll take him 3177 shots Jerry’s like a 25 handicap so I saw like people saying like oh 400 shots I’m like this this could be you know
Days I I know like I could go to I could go to a simulator for a week and not get a hole in one like it it has to be the perfect shot I don’t care how many shots you take and at the beginning he had a
Thing where like every 15 minutes he had to like take shots lefty or take shots blindfolded I think after a few hours they finally got rid of that but I started watching this thing and I would watch for like 15 minute spans and the first night say it started at 9:00 like
I checked in for 15 minutes early I checked in uh before bed I was watching for 20 minutes cuz he’s a very funny guy the way he talks he’s just like a entertaining human he’s got great rants on Twitter he goes crazy viral quite
Often and um so I went to bed at 11:30 and I’m watching he hadn’t been that close yet I mean you know he he was hitting it to like 10 feet which was good but there were none that were like leaning on it or anything like that and I woke up to
Pee at 3:30 in the morning I’m like is he still going sure [ __ ] he’s still going I’m like oh my God I wake up at 700 is he still going he’s still [ __ ] going the first night he didn’t go to sleep he just an all nighter and hit and
Hitting and he’s not that and he’s not very fit so your body is just I mean I know thinking like the body so he has two gloves on the entire time cuz he probably realized like the the blister Factor on this is is unprecedented so the day I I started texting a couple
Buddies I’m like are you watching this then they’re invested the day goes on he’s hitting he’s hitting he’s hitting at one point around the next afternoon so say it had been about 20 hours he put one on the simulator it said 1 cm I mean and and then and then the thought
Process started thinking like can you even make one because what happened was his chat was very involved in these streams oh yeah they started saying that because every time he was just taking a mulligan cuz he set up on a hole and he’s taking a mulligan he originally
Started on a hole on a random course that was 150 yards and and and then the chat started saying if you take a mulligan like you can’t get a hole in one like there were people saying like I worked on the software for this simulator if it’s a mulligan you can’t
Get a hole in one so then the panic’s you know starting to go into his brain like maybe I is this impossible to do like am I going to have to move in here at one point he was talking about so the second night well the first night he he
Never told his wife like he wasn’t going to be home she’s like where are you so then the second night so now we’re you know now we’re going on over 20 hours 24 hours and and he’s he’s just so upset and he’s so down and and he’s like we
Had we had Chile and Seabass we we planned it oh we were having Chile and Seabass tonight that’s tough that’s a tough wasn’t going home for a meal you’re looking forward to from the wifey love Chile and Seabass so I’m continuing to watch I’m continuing to watch and at
This point this is Catching Fire I mean there’s 30 there 90 what 90,000 th000 people at one time watching at one point I think it was over 90 maybe I looked I looked in one time it was 22,000 watching him sleep with so now the next night comes so now
So now it’s say 1:00 a.m. he started at 900 p.m. 2 days prior basically so say say it had been you know 32 hours whatever and I wasn’t I wasn’t awake for this I had just been checking in and I woke up to piss again and same thing I
Click on he’s passed out they brought in an air mattress for him and he’s just sleep and there’s 20,000 people watching this guy’s sleep I guess everyone’s waiting when’s he going to get up and start hitting again so say he gets up at 6:00 a.m. dude you know Jerry’s a he’s a
Little he’s kind of a short guy but he’s a big guy he gets out of bed dude and I I I I I put myself in his shoes or his slippers and I said I can’t imagine his body no at one point I realized if you’re shooting 80 playing golf which is
A hell of a score I think he had played about 33 rounds of golf in his life no with the attempts for the hole in one he’d hit so many shots that if he shot 80 it was like 33 rounds so he’s he’s he gets out of bed he can’t even move and
At this and he’s just waddling to the bathroom and in his mind I think as most of the viewers were thinking like he’s probably thinking like I’m not going to get a hole in one so then all of a sudden you see Tom Brady Gets In the Mix and of course
After Tom Brady Gets In the Mix I think it was relatively soon after there he buried one and he had another one so same thing there was the one with the 1 cm it was same thing it was just to the right 1 cm so it just led to the fact of
Like I don’t know if there’s going to it’s going to go in and Tom Brady’s tweet was unbelievable right cuz he was peeled over on the bench right beside the simulator then they somebody posted the one of the lady outside of KFC which is a famous M as well me and then they
Have him down what 28 to three on the bench yeah I think at that point I might have been 28 nothing and and and Tom Brady wrote It’s always darkest what was It’s always darkest before Before Dawn it’s darkest before Dawn sorry but that butcher the Dismount [ __ ] an all time
Amazing celebration right like like the the whole internet and what ra said you mentioned quickly Biz Twitter is the darkest most miserable Place most of the internet is and and for 38 hours it was like everyone came together it was like the one positive thing where everyone
Wanted this guy to get an ace it was it was just an awesome story and the best part is for him he got over to so in the midst of this competition they handed him over and for people who don’t know if you have a YouTube channel when you
Reach a certain amount of subscribers to your channel you’re given these like pretty cool plaques from YouTube so they had already sent one over um YouTube sent him you know congratulations 50,000 YouTube subscribers and they knew he would hit it at one point or he had
Already hit it so they gave it to him in the midst of all this he got over a 100,000 so kind of an amazing move for his brand yeah and and Porto mentioned um this guy Smitty Baro he’s a Philadelphia guy I guess one time he started one of these where he wasn’t
Going to quit until he won some sort of video game Challenge and then after 12 hours he just quit and then porno just buried him like this is what happens when you when you when you stick to your guns and like his brand is that strong I think pornoy said yeah Smitty barstol
Quit after 12 hours nobody’s ever mentioned his name again that this was a this was a legacy move I think with with Dave pornoy loyalty I think this man has a job at bar stool for the rest of his life oh oh my God and and so the funniest thing and
So he should Jersey Jerry sent a great tweet um why think that this is why Tiger Woods was dropped by Nike I think they’re signing Jersey Jerry this is what I’m hearing anyway from I got to pull up this tweet um a [ __ ] it’s probably far back
The next day like was it Walker and H Titus they they got a whole one with him like 10 minutes of playing the freaking thing that was a yeah they were playing a video game though a little different okay all right I I [ __ ] couldn’t tell
It it’s all the same to me [ __ ] hey so so if what if what if we could do a dare where we did to try to get subs like should we make ru dumb [ __ ] to get subs I think so after Jerry did it he gets home
He’s proba imagine the body how s must have been and he tweets sleep late night Thoughts with a screenshot of a Google search how hard is it to bowl a 300 so if he ends up [ __ ] saying I’m going to stream again till I bowl a 300 I
Think bowling a 300 is infinitely harder than getting hole in hard cuz hole in one well on a simulator I guess you can’t get like a crazy lucky bounce but a to bowl of 300 isn’t it 13 strikes in a row I know it’s a 300 be in a bowling
Alley for four weeks yeah CU I think forever yeah because you have to keep going at the end right you go yeah so maybe it’s more than can we google it yeah I mean can’t wait you can’t get lucky in a bowling now you got to be
Like locked in the whole time because it’s not one shot it’s how many strikes in a row to bowl 300 12 okay says 12 I mean if he does that though you know what dude he’ll probably get a 100 he could spend weeks in there and and end
Up with 400,000 YouTube subscribers by the end I like weird Sports and all it was a really it was a really cool like event I’ll say online that that that just had so much another fun one would be uh three bullseyes in darts yeah in in in
Like one throw let’s have some chicklets listeners send in some possible things you’d want us while we’re together to stream yeah mainly ra though ra hit a free throw actually I did in the video fre throw I did hit five in a row you guys I did in that video I know Som
Somehow it didn’t end up online it’s kind of weird though with how Twitter’s just gotten kind of shitty last few months huh must be a coincidence oh Jesus all right I think I was I think I was reading on uh on Twitter I think it was a guy named a guy
Guy 16 years old he’s like a a dart Phenom I saw that story too yeah I I love watching the highlights of those Dart things start it looks like October Fest and darts has a baby and they just go crazy and they’re all banged up doesn’t it and the stadiums are packed I
Love they are well it looks like they’re like bars yeah big ass bars anyway we can move on sorry yeah this weekend uh here in Massachusetts they have the junior Bean poot charity High School hockey tournament uh it’s four teams uh Bishop fan Newton North Brook line lexingon
High school they played down the Foxboro Sports Center uh then Walter Brown Arena over at Buu and our buddy Jake TBO you’ve you’ve met him before we’ve had him on the show uh he’s going to be speaking at the ceremony at 2:00 uh on Saturday at Walter Brown Arena so we’ll
Tweet it out from my from our account if you want to make a donation because it’s a very good cause the Travis Roy Legacy quality of life grants program at SCI Boston in Journey forward so uh guys who have uh and ladies who have suffered from spinal cord injuries it helps them
Out so I’ll have G tweeted out from uh our accounts if you want to help out please do but our buddy Jake will do anything for him love you pal so any final notes boys before we wrap it up uh Vlog coming new episode of chicklets TV coming on Thursday Winter Classic and
Then next week we have a chicklets TV episode coming with Merles at the world juniors and I hate that it took me this long to mention it I’m actually going to the kitchen arranger game too so on Saturday I got Hockey Night in Canada and then on Sunday I’m going to the
Kitchen arranger game with a couple buddies and one of my buddies who I used to play with Jeff krakus is an assistant coach there and it’d be cool it’s going to be fun so I’ll meet a bunch of people and get to watch some OHL hockey nice
All right hey everyone thank you for listening hope you enjoyed the show as much as we enjoyed doing it and we’ll be back to you next week we got some awesome stuff coming up Allstar game’s going to be banana lands we got pink Whitney night in Orlando in a couple
Weeks we got some very special stuff Brewing it’s been an amazing NHL season you are the best listeners and fans in the world and we can’t thank you enough peace
29 Comments
Daccord seems like the man
What a great guy Joey is.
I’m pretty sure I added myself to Elite Prospects when I was playing JV hockey
Scary finn is I can't think to USA call lyric dominate in the ward juniors Because In canada we don't have any big names come up and our pool t have anybig names.
Would love to see a blue. I know that it has nothing to do with anything y’all talked about in the episode. But a lot of characters that are never shown in the media. Would love it but will be watching regardless. Love it boys.
Chilliwack chiefs Legend One, everybody's Goalie in chief history . He is 🐐🐐🐐
Daccord is unreal what a guy. Id like to see you interview Joel Hofer, backup from the blues.
Daccord is high IQ
Pash redeemed himself a bit here, but those Miller comments won't be forgotten. "Power play merchant" 🙄
Daccord interview was great
Paul hit the nail direct hit 100% about JT and his resigning , THUMBS UP to Paul
I dont understand this analogy, Good structured hockey, stick to their guns. Why doesn't every team do that then? if its working for some teams why don't others do the exact same thing
Sucks for the Toronto women, stuck at the old leafs garden, doesnt even hold 3000
For the pwhl streaming on YT is so amazing i would hope the nhl would lean towards that, do you think its even possible?
2:12:24 for my own reference
Whit is on the money with the leafs! the fab four choose to fight to get paid rather then fight to win a cup! Other teams take home discount to win a stanley cup. Also I don't think Nylander is worth that much money,regardless of his points.Great show.
The problem I think with trying to say you give Marner the Nylander deal is that I don't think Marner wants the same thing. Even if he didn't want more money which he probably will, he won't want that much term is the bigger issue. I think Marner like Matthews wants to keep coming back to the table with shorter contracts.
Whit we need you back here In Edmonton cheering the Oilers on dude. Hey I was extremely pissy just like you bud I was even ripping on Skinner to lol. There a train rolling and what's awesome is Vancouver, Winnipeg and Edmonton are rolling
Why is biz such a hater? Biz's voice is getting stale. Get rid of him and bring Bugsy on in his place. 🙄
Biz knows full well what that means BAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA he just wants willy to say it
Excellent interview with Daccord! JOEY JOEY JOEY!!!
Love Murls!
Love the Mixer!
Please, Barstool make those “ in the Mixer” tshirts in other colors, hate white !
Anyone else screaming “unanimous!” 😂😂
Man it's tough listening to Bizz trying to navigate the English language
Get McAfee on once in awhile
Blackhawks fans didn't think it was dirty. There are some dumb fans in every fanbase. Prayers for Hawks fans who have to watch games for the next 6-8 weeks.
canada is bigger and on top think
bro, biz is totally blazed in this podcast u can see it in his eyes, hahaha you stoner
Metal is kinda like hockey kinda small community but it’s fuckin fantastic