Injury, Reality of Professional Parkour, Parkour into 40’s | Dom Tomato Stream

Catch future streams @ https://www.twitch.tv/jimmythegiantuk I’ll be interviewing Finn McKenty Monday 8th 8:00pm UK time

How the devil are you bro I’m fantastic it’s a Saturday morning here so very very relaxed chill atmosphere um generally good to be back home even though I was just in the UK uh that was only a short trip but uh being back home from my big trip for like three months

Nice and settled got my routine going and everything again what was much easier when you home what was the trip you were just on and why were you in England uh so I did a 7day trip to the UK so 24 hours of flying for 240 hours

Is of being in the UK and then 24 hours flying back um but it was for a Red Bull athlete College where they flew us over and did like a two-day course uh like deep diving into YouTube strategy uh video performance they even did like a review on our channels wait right there

Actually that’s so interesting it was it was it was actually so cool man um one of like the uh most in-depth things I’ve ever seen so they did this whole booklet like you can see it’s whole booklet on my channel just what the so that’s like a

That’s like a breakdown of what you’re doing on your channel on YouTube yeah yeah so my performance over the last 12 months and then like what worked what didn’t uh best performing content worst performing content um like you know putting it into tears of like core

Marketing and let’s see if I can give you that you know different different it what were the three things core casual and then I’m guessing like viral or something casual and new yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s cool so what do they say to balance it a how do they

Talk about balancing the the three uh I think really it it is down to the Creator that’s what uh because there was like five or six other athletes there and they had their cameraman or their secondary unit for the for the shooting um with them as

Well and it really came down to like finding what your formula and what you offer and then curating that to the current kind of YouTube system or algor like I hate the word algorithm but like the format like you know you don’t make Vlogs anymore you make YouTube content

If you’re if you’re being really aware and not like you know that’s aged out You’ got to stay with the times you can have the same content the same stuff that’s super marketable across the board um but finding a way to kind of fit that

In with the system so for me I find very inter it’s like um I mean how your career would have evolved but just for athletes in general it’s funny to think that now instead of just being the best in the world at parkour you also have to

Be very clued up on YouTube how to post videos thumbnails you have to think about more than just your movement and that’s like not what say someone who’s a professional footballer has to think about yeah AB absolutely I I think that’s uh one of the cool things but

Also one of the uh hurdles that comes up of being a professional athlete in parkour you have like a this big spectrum of avenues that you can pursue and to kind of stay sustainable you have to adapt and and learn these different career parel tools much like you would

Like not going to University not in the same comparison but that kind of specific education dedicated time years of practice to to stay you know uh if it’s a float industry-wise or like relevant in in your industry or whatever it is you really do need to like learn

Those tools but I’m also seeing overlow yeah I was going to say is there like an element of you that um I’m curious what your feeling is so like do you begrudge that that is the case it has to be like or do you just embrace it and enjoy it I

Think I’ve grown up and uh and now am embracing and enjoying it I definitely was like I just never started YouTube with the premise of creating content that was I like abstain from being referred to as a content creator I’m like I’m an athlete I’m an athlete but

Like to be honest I don’t know why I was just clinging to that I think there’s uh a lot of like you you could probably relate is like there’s a lot of like parkour Community cultural history of not like not being inauthentic or not being showy or not being like sell like

With what you do you know it’s it’s uh you know you I remember when you started videos that weren’t parkour related everyone’s like oh [ __ ] Jimmy’s lost not part of the community it’s like I personally like just I enjoy like I watch your breakdowns of like the the

British pub culture and stuff like that like I [ __ ] love this video like they’re really enjoyable pieces of media but I think the community has this habit of when anyone gets to a certain size or they do they grew with parkour and then they start to explore other avenues um

They get like uh sled or like looked down upon I even remember I even remember at the beginning of um when like storo was starting to pop and stuff like that in the early days I even do remember and people probably forget this now but there was criticism towards them

People were like oh these guys are kind of selling out and stuff but it was only when it really worked and people kind of understood why they were doing it um and it showed to a bigger audience then people understand they’re like I get it

It’s the same with music you get music a lot like you get an artist who will do something very different Tyler the crat I’m making a video on him at the moment it’s like he did something very different and at the beginning all the hip-hop heads hated him and over time

They’re like most influential man in hip-hop 2020 you know all this sort of [ __ ] later I remember the stigma when he first arrived on the scene and most like hip-hop artists were not [ __ ] with him and now like you know everyone’s like yeah [ __ ] classic like like one

Of the greatest of all time I’m like when did that happen like I didn’t stay current like Jesus Christ he’s made Moves hasn’t he and he’s just I think like if you just prove yourself with whatever your craft is if like passion is really hard to fault if someone’s

Just doing something they love diligently and it’s like it ends up being good then you can’t really fault them yeah and I think it can be difficult for some people to um like drown out those voices cuz again I have had it like I don’t know if it’s ever

Affected me to be honest but I can feel like when you have criticism from people like oh why you doing this direction why you trying this thing I don’t know I don’t know if it’s does impact I don’t feel like it impacted me too much but

Maybe you’re aware of it and it doesn’t feel great but I can imagine there are people that are dissuaded from certain paths because they’re um afraid of certain opinions yeah like for sure I I like if I can put in layman’s terms I don’t sure if the whole audience will understand

But most people here know who star it is I imagine is like I grew up just wanting to make sure that I was doing what Callum thought was cool like not like over L but I know like consciously looking back I’m like you know like I used to [ __ ] slate

David Nelms who’s a lovely guy just because I thought call would like Callum would think that was cool but that’s like that’s not cool like not like that’s not the core of it there was other obviously interpersonal like but like actions like that where I was like

What would Callum do or what would Callum think I think is a better way to kind of phrase that yeah I always think I held myself back with like morera gang because we were so core for a while that we didn’t want to be um we didn’t want to do like YouTube

Stuff like we could have done the Vlog thing and the Vlog thing was new and interesting at the time but for some reason we saw it as like just lame or whatever and it was I just wish we didn’t selling out because it was the trend on YouTube and I think that

Inherently like our culture has become way more accepting and way more supportive in that facet but we did have like this I don’t know it was like a tall poppy syndrome essentially like anything like when Red Bull came in when past just started doing like action comedy when uh you know different Trends

Came into the scene or even like like fig when it first came in was the biggest [ __ ] problem and then like now that like there’s a regulated competition series we respect all the athletes who are like winning and doing all of the like hard level like even just attending the competitions

Representing their country there’s like all these benefits like it’s not the perfect system but it’s like yeah everything eventually that we’ve been so against ends up being and I feel like I took that to like a very high level personally with like my movement choices and my content creation I was like I

Never want to be selling out and then yeah like you know years later I’m like [ __ ] I should have like why have I just you know for or something yeah yeah why have I limited myself I mean 650 blogs in iMovie when I know how to use other

Editing tools like oh well I don’t need it it’s like you do need it yeah what are you [ __ ] doing yeah so interesting dude yeah that is you know like I cuz obviously the way I do videos and stuff now I I talk about lots of different topics but it’s so interesting

How many like cuz I kind of analyze culture it’s so interesting how many things correlate across the board so that attitude of like Pro it’s literally Progressive versus conservative attitudes where it’s like the people who want to sort of do the new thing there’s always going to be the the or people

That kind of hold it back CU they don’t want it to go too far and there is instances where things go too far too crazy and stuff but that will exist in music that will exist in politics that exists in parkour that attitude of like the old heads the old God they’re scared

Of the change but typically like I don’t know it’s really hard to say because we we live in the now but it always seems like when you zoom out the progress does tend to go in a good direction typic I don’t know it’s really you can say you

Can say par L yeah you could say parkour has lost some things but for the things it has lost it’s also gained exponentially yeah so the integration of all those things I mentioned have been like huge like TR like transfers or movement shifts for the culture you know

Red Bull was originally people were anti- it because it was an energy drink product but they did wonderful things with competition sponsoring athletes and they Prov themselves and Ren and a lot of that also I think was like the big Corporation marketing because when you break down like what’s in the

Can it’s like not that crazy like a small can of Red Bull is like actually pretty like yeah but it’s like it’s like the same as a cup of coffee caffeine it’s not like a [ __ ] monster or something crazy but energy drinks had a bad rep at the time and they proved by

Just being in the sport and being so supportive of the like culture Community the events like sponsoring athletes in different countries you know making these amazing Productions like you remember the Great Train production that Jason did yeah yeah like these incredible projects it really proved to everyone in the scene that they were

Authentic yeah and then now they’re like they they basically have a monopoly on the on the Freer running sponsorship game you know they’re the the the creme Del crem that’s what people want to achieve like the highest Acclaim you can kind of receive as a free run trying to

Think I’m just trying to think cuz you made me think that I wonder how many like can you remember any brands that came into parkour for like a week and then left I’m trying to Fig I know bang energy bang energy bang energy but they’re also I don’t know what they’re

Doing now anyway like they seem to come into the world for five minutes but they just paid a few athletes to do like once off posting and stuff but they didn’t really sponsor anyone didn’t um didn’t make a parkour shoe wasn’t it like was it or case it

Was case swis made a parkour shoe in like 2007 yeah that was it yeah yeah cuz everyone bought everyone bought one other one it was everyone bought the siia 18s I think that was the order everyone bought si1 18s and then they were like oh [ __ ] for some reason Free Runners

Like our shoes and they made this ugly horrible looking Sho let me let me find a picture of it they’re [ __ ] sick oh yeah get that in you do you want to wear that do you know what I had like three pairs man because I just started parkour I mean why do you

Why do you think I like cushy shoes CU I learned how to like jump off stuff and have like so much heel pad I was the biggest sheet it came to shoes cuz like I would buy the every shoe that everyone was wearing I would buy them and I would swear blindly by

Him and when I think about it like I don’t know why like it was like I think the Nik darts or some [ __ ] that was like a popular one for a while yes yeah we definitely had that in Sydney as well yeah the f f were one of the biggest

Parkour F to be fair did I I I came I came for I came for to the the F for a couple of years I can’t I can’t imagine you traded F that’s like yeah I had like a very Dany prancy style at certain points of my career like I’ve

Focused more on like flow and those sorts of things and then I realiz stuck at it yeah yeah yeah yeah like early days early days um because I would watch like Daniel the Backa and he always seemed to have thin s shoes on so that’s like I want to be

To be it’s so funny how yeah you get role model athletes and it’s like you’re obviously a role model athlete but yeah back in the day it was like Danny painted Danny painted that and sent it to me Danel the back made this for me I was gonna ask you about

That so Danny Jo like Jo’s like why do you have a picture of you in your room like no no no Danny gave it to me he’s like okay no that makes sense imagine when you first got into parkour like you you can you imagine even comprehending that Danny might have

Done a pain you many years old it’s [ __ ] man I don’t even know [ __ ] P yeah bro he’s an amazing like human across the board like just an absolutely I got I got to see him in um July this year in SW uh Switzerland and like just

Seeing him with his family what’s his house like what’s his setup at the moment because I know he’s in Switzerland he’s married right so he’s got married and two kids um and they’re so like outgoing and adorable for like such a young age already but he I didn’t

Get to see his place I was out like we out at um uh Black Panther was his uh Ro not Roman Ro why am I forgetting this anyway we’re out we’re out training and um yeah he um yeah he was just like super like we were just talking about his

Priorities now and he’s you know trying to do less film work uh away so he can spend more time with the family and spend more time like focused on art and pass and stuff and I just like yeah it’s it’s amazing to see he can just kind of fluidly move between interest life

Career pass and and it seems so seamless for him and seems like he’s really always making like doing what makes him happy and doing like following his priorities with 100% intent like yeah I honestly think the absolute core is to follow that the thing I found is follow

That innate interest in things so if like cuz I think typically I have this thing at the moment right where I want to make a video about my city like Milton Kings and how ugly it is and then go into architecture and what and so and

I know it’s so Random MK have you ever been to MK I don’t think so I think I mean there’s no reason for you to there’s not even good spots here but you know it’s just got to know um and it’s like for instance I I’ve just been

Obsessed with this like me and my girlfriend always talking about mil King and why the architecture are ugly and there’s there’s a part of me that really like I know I have to make a video on it even if it bombs even if there’s no

Interest in it I know I have to because it’s like um I just can’t stop thinking about it and I think that’s what Danny’s done I feel like Danny understands and you probably have got the same thing where it’s like do the thing you’re drawn to inherently and probably the who

Is it who said something like if you can make 3,000 a month doing a job you hate imagine how much you could make doing a job you love and it’s like the amount of effort you put into things yeah the amount of effort you put into things when you just follow that innate

Interest I think I like to think the universe just finds a way of like giving you money out of it yeah yeah yeah I mean that’s that was my kind of strategy when building a career in parkour I used to say all the time to people I don’t know what I’m

Doing but I’m just doing everything I can like yeah daily uploading on Instagram like uh seeking out jobs working with different brands and gyms to kind of get you know seminars or uh coaching or whatever it was to make the career work trying to get myself to

Every single event when I’m at those events just doing everything I could to get invited back like there’s a whole lot of effort and drive that comes with like putting putting in those Seema arbitrary things or they kind of they are fun like you know going out and

Doing cool parkour is is super fun but that’s the career I wanted so and I had to still do all that fun stuff but with like a high work ethic um and yeah then then it would kind of pay small small dividends at the start and then just

Like built and built and built over the years have you ever found yourself now in a position where you’re seeing because you’ve kind of painted youve paved out your own way you kind of made a blueprint of like how a professional athlete can operate and make money do

You ever seen now that you talk to maybe upand cominging athletes and you explain look you could try this you could try this do you ever feel you coach anyone or uh yeah I feel like I I give a lot of advice that I like should have taken or

Like would have done uh over the years I it’s actually so sick because I see a lot of uh like younger athletes and peers like people like fre schapen who have been like working really hard for a while yeah seeing them blow up is like really really awesome uh just like on a

Personal level because I know them so well and I know how hard they’ve been working and kind of was personally watching their narrative beat of like when they all started to commit to it and how things were going and then like the recent 12 months where things have

Just really exploded for them do you know what was did they have a video pop off or something no it was consistent grinding I was talking to Yan about it and it was like you know they they had a few kind of staple things going like the

Schlap and tour yeah and that sort of thing that had built a name for themselves over time and then they just committed to the YouTube game found their hook found their cell which uh a friend of mine was talking to uh some like German tourists when they were here

And he was asking them because they watched laugh and he was like what is it about them that like the German like culture and Community seem to really love and resonate with and he said they’re just really really funny guys and I think like not being afraid to let their

Personality and talk to the camera and show who they are because Yan we know is hilarious like he’s just such a yeah I mean if you’ve seen if you’ve seen the the videos Yan is just an absolute ball of fun he’s like contagiously funny really yeah um and I

Think the other guys would would have that hook with the the dialogue even more like it would it would be furthered with the dialogue in German so they see like they’ve got jackass kind of vibe yes that’s always been their thing is to kind of you know they used to like

Break uh bottles on their head and stuff like that and Fire crackers out their ass all the time uh and they still do some of that stuff but it’s it’s cool uh they’ve got like yeah this very like fun jackass but they still don’t seem it’s like not hurting themselves it’s

Reckless but it’s not hurting themselves they’re like still in that parkour or stunt kind of Realm of things see this is something I was just thinking I do have some written questions but I just like the flow of this conversation yeah yeah yeah but um this is what I was

Thinking is have you what do you think about I’ve noticed this right where I’ve seen like verki had a video where they use I think like a hook or something um it was like a rope hook I don’t know if you saw that and then there was like a

Few other videos that are sort of like parkour adjacent they’re not like necessarily parkour and they’re always the one that pop off and team fat for instance they’ll do stuff where they’re jumping into like a bush and they go what do you think about that because it is moving people away from

Parkour um I I this is again where over the years I’ve been like oh my God like stop like Park like don’t modify spots blah blah or like you know I just like was cleaning to some puritanical whims just because I don’t enjoy it as much

But but I um I do think there is space for it and I think especially in the content creation world we should be trying to be Innovative with like you know remember uh before like the the original is silly shoes like storm freerun or even like the flow show with

She and Walters like that’s where it’s like taking an extension of parkour and it can just be you like messing around doing you’re not doing the craziest level of Parkour but you’re taking it and adding an element that’s entertaining like across the board I mean you could argue like like David

Bell and all those guys they actually really popped off from films which were Chase scenes which were fight scenes that isn’t them out in the and also you remember remember the video of the game of uh like uh the game of catch on the roof there’s like a bunch of people

People oh mate that is a sick video If you haven’t seen it um so it’s yamazi and they are on a rooftop um like playing a game of catch and like pushing each other off the building and [ __ ] okay yeah if you can find that be sick um yeah because

The your screen’s gone Black by the way just going to go through some going back yeah yeah how we doing boys in the chat who’s who’s who’s around um yeah let me let me just put up some like yamar chasing or something I’ve just found a way like I can play

That looks too small I can kind of like play uh there we go play some videos while we’re talking that would be cool should we can talk about it yeah sick um that’s not that one but we’re in the r heyan that guy that guy’s sick Seb fuk

He’s like still out here training attending comps Seb is like one of the most it like okay when we this my story of SE is when we let me get rid of that I will find I will this bloody scene of them um yeah what was I saying sorry uh

Yeah my first meeting of Seb it was like perfect man you know when you meet someone that you’ve that you’ve admired and it’s just it’s better than you thought it would have been that was like meeting said yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it’s like fun and personable and yeah

They were cooler than I thought they were going and it was like so we met at the quads everyone’s training on it and then yeah the devau brothers call us over and we sit down we like talk to them and there’s probably 30 people and there’s just Seb still running around

And he’s like the only guy he’s just like he doesn’t really give a [ __ ] about what they’re talking about he’s like I’m just going to keep training 40y old guy and there’s me and like I don’t know me and Greg complain about our knees and stuff sitting down having a 10-minute

Break and Seb is just running and he’s a 40-year old man just still running around and he’s so high energy but enjoyable to like I don’t know dude’s amazing yeah yeah it’s like not overbearing it’s just endearing yeah it’s so honest I think it’s so like just

Purely and that in that moment I remember looking at him running around the quad and I was like I understand how he became the founder of the sport I get it like it totally makes sense that someone like that would have discovered a sport like this and also like would

Have been able to provocate it or like promote it with such a purity that was contagious because if you have someone doing it who I don’t know it’s a bit of a show off or like you know it’s a bit arrogant or doesn’t fit like the societal like yeah yeah you know doesn’t

Resonate doesn’t resonate socially with people then it’s less likely to take off to such a I think if you think about that kind of is the dynamic between um David and SE was like not that David David’s unlikable David was just more serious stoic I would say whereas Seb

Was more playful and childish and probably that and also spoke English better so probably he resonated more with people that’s why he’s sort of there’s a lot of importance put on Seb even though he’s one of the lot like the yamazi go yeah I think you need that combination

As well like when I like remember Sydney park or early days there was uh George georgic who was like the kind of you know one that started it and and he was like always really Community Driven and progressed like a lot but his best mate reys started doing it like

Ironically uh and like ended up being like super high level but he was more stoic and cold and George is more like uh about building the group and I think the combination of the two really pushed the scene to a high level really early because you know the you have that kind

Of the two different characters and you see that to Extremes in parkour as well like uh not in the like Tim’s not stoic but Tim is like an athlete you know so it’s like one archetype of that sort of thing and then you’ve got the more like Joe scand Jam social

Yeah like you know I think you know it’s more split now into like competition and social media and stuff like that that and again that’s why Tim’s a bad example because him’s got a huge social media following as well yeah yeah it’s cool seeing him kind of pop off with a new

Venture as well like with the the RO stuff and it’s nice I I kind of honestly after making a video on him I was a bit like I really just want to see him uh winning with something not that he’s not probably winning in his own regard doing

Whatever but it was just like in in my world and I love I found it I found it I found it all right [ __ ] that was that was such a [ __ ] search all right coming into forgot yamazi yam maazi playing this insane game of catch on a roof um how do I go

To the chat chat all right this is just to you I don’t know you can show that to everyone it’s so sick they’re just doing like at least for the first 30 seconds here they’re doing Instagram Ricky Glazier Glazer I so do you know who he is he’s he a he’s

A skateboarder I think if I’m not mistaken I feel like he’s on Braille skateboards but I might be wrong yeah yeah I think I know I know the name Pro Skate I just know his face oh yeah yeah it is yeah bra he just asked thoughts on skateboarding like just generally maybe

Culture or like I I think skating is like way cooler than Park as a culture like they just know what they [ __ ] do skater is a cool man um but then to to to further that I guess I like tried skateboarding a little bit as a kid

Didn’t like I had other priorities then I tried it again as an adult I was like you know what I’m going to start skating it would be a good like side hobby but I it was like during the time of my bad ankles and I just found it made them

Worse and I admittedly like after a year only being able to like rarely do an OE on concrete I was like this progression curve is too slow for me I’m not I’m not patient enough to like you know I just especially like when you’re already kind of progressed physically at like another

Skill then the P you know like riding that Journey for another 10 years back is like way less fun you you had it when you were a well when I don’t know what age you got into park it was younger it was like I’m

Guess it was 15 yeah so you had it when you were 15 and that’s like I don’t know there’s something about getting into a sport in that kind of age where you’re so hungry and it becomes your life whereas skate is probably not going to become your life and probably you know

You’re not going to have that same hunger to push it I did I did figure out from that that I just kind of need to pick hobbies that aren’t uh more loading or compression potentially on my body do you ever um do you ever think about sorry intro yeah um

I was say do you ever think about like time sync so obviously as like a professional parkour athlete you have to put a bulk of your time into things that can progress that career if you randomly got into like I don’t know uh the Game of Thrones series or you know just like

A video game or some [ __ ] do you ever think I can’t really afford to do this with time um no I think I have way too much Spare Time nowadays I actually need a hobby because like I’m just sitting here watching one piece for the third time

Through and this time in English dubs because I’ve watched it twice in Japanese I’m like this is yeah I like but I don’t have any other I don’t have any other vices like I just watch it um I don’t really game and i i i find

I if after 24 hours if I haven’t done something I get like and like answer yeah exactly I’m like I need to I need to like I start doing to-do list and start ticking things off and chipping away and stuff like there’s just this internal uh dial that doesn’t really

Know how to stop stop doing stuff but um yeah I think it’s I think it’s just like figuring out the right pacing uh and figuring out where I can time management is really important for all of that but if I if I did have the space I would

Like to take up like yoga I think I want to do things that are beneficial anything to bolster parkour and make me better at Parkour in the long run and make my longevity more accessible for parkour because that’s all I like still am obsessed with everything else is just not as

Fun um yeah I I don’t know man yeah I I know that feel I know that feeling like um I definitely it was tough definitely like stripping back on parle but I think parle lost certain things of what it gave me because I moved away like my

Friends moved away um my level dropped so it’s like if you maintain a good level and also you have the same group of friends or however what parkour means to you if those things are still there I can imagine it’s very hard to move something else but for me I sort of lost

Some of the things that gave it um I mean not that I would love to get back into training I definitely will but it’s like it’s yeah I can see it is like patenting um you know if you’ve got like a regular Hab and a regular crew I mean

I’m I’m in the total opposite City where like parkle just kept giving me more and more things like the more I worked the more I just ended up like being able to fly overseas making all these amazing friendships continuing connections getting sponsored by Red Bull uh being

Part of Team Fang like all it just kept feeding me all these amazing life experiences and like building my bond and building my passion that not only just for the jumping in the sport which I was already obsessed with but all the things around it very much like in a

Great way consumes my entire life like there’s nothing that I want to do more and I want to do it for the rest of my life like I even if it just means that I’m 80 and going to JS and just like being a part of the community yeah like

That’s more if I if I like for some reason can’t end end up having a career where I’m like in the sport or with my own Media or whatever if I just like work a job and still have to go to jam like that would be awesome just being

Part of Parkour I think it’s such a cool thing yeah I think there’s so many people that hear that and would be like damn I wish I had that thing in my life like I I feel like it’s a blessing when you just had I’ve always kind of just

Had that interest in a thing but some people like they don’t really know what they love or yeah yeah I I feel very fortunate to like I guess the the most periodical way I could put it is like my calling or having like a thing that is like your life’s purpose

And to think of that like jumping on walls is my life purpose is hilarious but I also like totally fine with that like it’s when I do it I feel like I this is what I was put here by whatever data you choose to believe that’s what I was put

Here to do I was to jump on [ __ ] and especially like when it comes to uh building the community and uh trying to be a part of supporting younger athletes that’s like really really important to me it’s cool that you see it wider than yeah just maybe just movement it’s like

Your role as a motivator in the sport a person who can kind of like I mean I don’t know if you maybe consciously think that but it definitely seems that you have been put in that position to yeah it’s You by you getting better you grow the sport which is cool because you

Push the bar you’re at that level where you’re pushing the bar and that’s bringing people to the sports it’s like that makes your purpose deeper than just solely your enjoyment I suppose it makes it wider than that and that’s yeah I mean it definitely is an intentional

Choice as well well I remember like talking to Phil Doyle had this really transformative conversation Early times with him where I was like I remember you were like when I was growing up the the the main guy like you were the the British young athlete to like dude like

Had the world at his feet and then he’s like yeah but I just didn’t like being Phil the parle guy like at the time he grown up from 12 to 18 being like Phil the par guy Phil the par guy doy like there was no separation and I think he

Didn’t want that mantle or responsibility to be uh like you know because it is sacrificial somewhat of your like time and energy and uh you know like I think like for me I let all sorts of people in that aren’t necessarily like the coolest or the sometimes I

Don’t know enough about them they might be not the greatest people but if they do parkour I mean to give them that 10 minutes of my time and give them that energy and stuff like that like I don’t if iuck can know your story but if

You’re here to do parkour I’m here to support you because that’s like what I’m trying to provocate but he didn’t want that mantle he didn’t want that like responsibility and he didn’t want that he had want his own identity like Phil Doyle is such a character and after

Having that conversation with him I was like I would be happy with my name being synonymous with parkour like yeah it’s cool that you had that conversation and it was like you you weren’t influenced in the sense that oh [ __ ] what Phil saying is right he was like no I am that

The thing he doesn’t want to be I am everyone everyone everyone I saw ahead of me like the person that I uh other than other than Jason Paul everyone I saw ahead of me got to a certain stage in their career and was like I don’t

Like I don’t want to be that guy I don’t want to be responsible I don’t know if that was that old cultural thing we were talking about earlier where it’s like too cool to be like Top Dog in their eyes or whatever like I don’t know what

The but it’s like you know some people aren’t aren’t willing to uh like sacrifice things for themselves for the whatever the this so like arbitrary with like the the greater good or like the and that’s that’s they don’t have to they shouldn’t have to but for

Me that’s like one of the reasons I like don’t do I don’t do stunts and I don’t go into stunts is because yeah that is an Avenue for athletes who you but if we all get to this level and then go into stunts what does the industry do what is

What is our field what is our culture end up looking like because everyone just leaves yeah so there’s a high turnover at the top so I’m really like intentional about being really really involved and trying to build an industry that’s within parkour and promote the the brands and companies

That are doing competitions and uh events and and jams from the sports and like even the clothing brand stuff like that like yeah I just want to see that industry Blossom and Bloom more than I care about jobs from Hollywood or something like that yeah yeah and and

It’s also like for me that’s more important uh than uh necessarily my own uh like indust like I don’t I don’t need to be creating the company I don’t need to be making the comps I just want them I want all of that to grow to this to sustainable level for everyone involved

Because I think all of those people that are doing those things deserve it everyone that’s working so hard we all deserve success and I want to see that for oh that’s awesome I had you kind of led me to literally my first question so I’m going to go through it but it’s it’s

Tied to that it’s um I saw a clip from I think it was Brandon Douglas who did like this clip on on I wish I could play it but I don’t feel [ __ ] him up but he um he posted a clip from a Hy drop podcast and they were talking about the

Identity attachment to parkour and when parkour is taken away from you I.E injury um what happens to your identity and how you feel so I wanted to ask you with your injury um how did you feel over was it this year it was like last year it was since ASAP wasn’t it last

Year yeah so how did found like your I guess it’s a hard question maybe it’s a bit broad but like what’s your identity outside of parkour and how did you get through that time I suppose well I mean my my answer is not great because I don’t [ __ ] have one

Like I honestly don’t have an identity outside of Parkour but I was fortunate enough that I haven’t sustained like a injury that’s you know being put me on the back burner or taking me out for that long until that stage and I already had a clear like clear position in in parkour

Where you know I’m a sponsored athlete I’m already traveling around I already had jobs like um lined up for when I got back like there was uh opportunity to still be a Prof professional athlete and this is I guess where I feel like time applied doesn’t necessarily just mean

Training it it like or like you know if you’re out there and you’re still doing movement even not to a high level and you know filming clips for people’s videos collecting for social media encouraging the young guys and doing sessions with them and trying to like build their level up you know there’s

All these things that you can do still being involved in the sport that aren’t just the practice of it um you I I I would love to say I have a recommendation for my life outside of Parkour but like I have my close friends

Here and we hang out but a lot of my hanging out is just downtime relaxing you know something lightly active maybe we play board games video games you know go hang out of the park uh we’ve got a f one of the group’s favorites is 5c rule where you have to

Turn a time off and you have to answer like a topic like three uh three country starting with the letter c it’s just like you got to be quick on the the burner if you don’t do it before five seconds passes on to the next person goes around the group and you can’t

Reuse ones that or even use so it gets like gets Poppy and fiery yeah there’s a Ricky playing that and um I it was like name free uh and he named two and and then click the button and they all L and then he he went think about it and then

It was like one of them is two things and it was like it was just so genius it was like I don’t know yeah just c yeah yeah him him just being on another level yeah that was it was like yeah it was something like Ricky shows his wit More

Than People yeah some [ __ ] that’s interesting yeah that whole thing of like yeah when Parker my mate Greg for instance he’s kind of going through it where he’s had double knee [ __ ] roon so he’s like ACL snaap twice it’s like a damn guitar being played when he yeah

And it’s like he yeah and so he’s he’s had yeah the dub the dub plate and he’s like wondering what to do and he’s like got to this point where he’s in a job in sales but he doesn’t really like you know isn’t maybe I’m sure he loves it

But it’s like parkour was the thing and without it it does seem to affect him in a way um sorry Greg if that’s just aired out your yeah I think it’s relevant and I think it’s a story that a lot of people kind of my age go through where you kind

Of like parkour unless unless it’s your job I think I think that’s something that it’s a it’s a fine line to because in one hand you don’t want to tell people to like give up on their dreams or to that they don’t have what it takes to be a professional athlete it’s a

Horrible thing to say to someone yeah yeah um but then at the same time you also want people like even if even if they do have the talent even if like we’ve seen over the years so many people do these amazing amazing athletes but a career isn’t available because the

Industry we have isn’t currently like sustainable for that many like amazing athletes or you know maybe they’re like from a country that doesn’t have the same infrastructure to support sponsorship and that sort of thing and you know the [ __ ] I what I was saying you’re kind of about yeah whether it’s

Pursuing a career in a sport um like if maybe it’s like maybe it’s not you’re kind of like dissuading potentially dissuading some people being realistic oh yeah no so so yeah in in the realistic sense but then like the exam I could give on the other side is that as

I remember Alfie green who was an incredible athlete you know got flown around you know got to travel with parkour and do all these cool things I remember one trip I went back and he was like yeah I just decided that I want to I want to save for a house that’s like

My motivations in life this was like you know years ago he was like and he’s like and to do that I need a job so and he he just made this switch of like he can still do parkour for fun yeah and think but he was like I am going like because

You know here’s here’s the long plan if you have a house and you know you uh you know control of your finances and everything set then you can go and do Park more again like you don’t have to be a professional athlete to enjoy the big thing man that’s a big thing it’s

Like I think a lot of us are scared to make that choice and I it’s hard for me to say because I’m sitting here and like being like yeah fing it’s interesting like I felt that way where it was almost like for some reason you get to I’d say

Like 18 maybe 20 and you start going well the natural progression because I suppose we watch social media like the natural progression for me being someone who’s okay like getting good at this sport would be put all my eggs in one basket and pursue this as a career and

It’s like you might not even like that career and it’s like I don’t know it’s for some reason the hobbiest side of Parkour um weirdly I feel like isn’t like there I don’t know man I don’t know if I’m just chatting up my I think that’s where the real I know but I

Do think that’s like where the real uh sustainability and truism of the community and the culture is actually with the people who practice for like it’s their like it’s their physical exercise like their version of the gym or they practice to better themselves like a sport like uh you know like like

The guys who do BJJ or the you know people who do kickboxing there’s like there’s all these communities that you see that are about like bettering El and progression all nothingness to do parkour it’s either you do it 10 hours a day or you never do

It yeah yeah yeah and I think finding that balance you know I think there’s when I went to London recently I went to a jam on a Saturday just like rocked up at barbin and there was like almost a hundred people training I was like this

Is amazing like yeah that’s cool so many people out doing parkour like yeah yeah yeah yeah they they London’s scene right now is is really dedicated and really strong like you know I I see regular regular um meet up if it’s if it’s if it’s not hard I think

I think we’re back in yeah we’re back all right I know I don’t know the [ __ ] happened sorry boys and girls respectively all right so um yeah I’ve got a bunch of like questions written down I actually really want them as specifically to ask you

Kind of like uh like we made that video I think it was two years ago maybe two and a half years ago and um yeah I don’t know like you know it done really well it was amazing it was great for me but I wanted to ask like did it affect did

People maybe have like a deeper understanding about you or did you find there was any effect after that video lots of people definitely saw it because um and like uh specifically in America when I was there like when I was at Woodward I remember a lot of people com

Being like Oh yeah I saw that thing used to be a garbage man that’s really cool blah like yours is probably the only video that definitely showcases that narrative like clearly so um it did have like a positive impact in in that sense a lot of people I guess got a deeper

Understanding of like my history and uh background in in the sport and those sorts of things I thought that was really cool and I I just uh like I hadn’t had a life encapsulating piece ever made I guess up to that point so I I personally

Really like it in the sense that it’s just like I guess a little biography you know 20 minutes of like because it does like it does pretty much sum up the main dot points of like my life my life is very much revolved around the sports I’ve done and the uh connections I’ve

Made and friends that I’ve made through it so yeah like that’s the I like that video for that reason awesome man yeah I mean I’m so grateful that we we made it you allowed me to make it cuz it was yeah it was really I felt it’s just just

One of those videos I have videos every now and then that I’m just very proud of and that was that was one of them so um sick man yeah yeah yeah I was going to ask you then um so like having achieved kind of like everything you’ve achieved

In parkour the position you’ve got to and then like all the movement you’ve done what are your do you still have big goals like how do you where do you go up from there like you’ve kind of done everything I guess I really um have that same Outlook uh that you just mentioned

Until last year going through my like long period of injury where I had like really just bad ankles like both sides I just done repetitive damage too and then didn’t rehabilitate them properly and that P me out like it didn’t never that’s the thing I’m so I feel like

Really ungrateful because like they didn’t put me out if you look at my like when I looked back at my catalog of 202 I was like what am I complaining about it’s just like it was a pace shift where I couldn’t do it every single day that heavy anymore yeah yeah because like

What I was but then that made me take pause and as you said realize like yeah should I had like six or seven years like on the Hammer with like not much like no more than like three weeks off and my body kept giving it to me like

Kept letting me do it so I was like that and I had a really good conversation with Jas and Paul actually and he was like yeah like it’s not like you you can stop worrying about like the next thing the next thing like yeah yeah look at all the things you did that’s

Like you’ve done all this incredible stuff like you can appreciate that and that’s why you’ve gotten to the stage of the journey and so then yeah I guess now it’s to me I’m not I’m always going to be looking to do something a little bit new a little bit gnarly a little bit

Like that’s just what I’m drawn to in training that’s always going to be the case um but then yeah it’s like uh I think sustaining my level is the goal if I can just continue to do things at the level that I’m doing them for the

Next five to 10 years and my body is like happy with that and I’m going to try and add some more like I’ve been doing way more backend training to kind of sustain that and make sure that I can still continue at that like high intensity and then just dialing back

Like the amount as well instead of training every day which was like I didn’t even know how I was doing that now that I don’t do that anymore I was like the idea of like going out and having like heavy days back to back is crazy yeah I’ll trade like two or three

Days a week now yeah um or if I’m doing like a shoot or something uh like uh we recently started shooting a new Capstone piece uh for their next collection and it was was like we were operating at one clip a day max trying to do one clip a

Day um and even just for the team like uh we try like go out and look for like three or four things and then usually get like one or two done because we’re trying not we’re trying to make it so that everyone can go back out tomorrow

And still play that game um so that’s that’s been like the two kind of counters but yeah goals long term is just to keep doing fun [ __ ] like you know just to be like healthy and strong enough to do what I’ve been doing for the last few

Years uh and like I’m dropping my uh yearly movement compilation in 27th of uh December and like I just finished making that and that’s always to me like I like look at that as my reflection period and I’m super stoked like even though I was coming back from injury I

Very much felt from like May onwards this year I was just on and like can comfortably say now at the end of the year like I am fully back like I’m just like I’m back there’s no I can I can yeah do what I want and

Train at this level that I’m like been looking for for a while and I’ve figured out how to kind of sustain that uh in my 30s a bit better so do you ever do you ever consider like um how maybe 10 years from now whatever maybe you’ll have like

A behind the scenes or like could you see yourself doing stuff with like Fang behind the scenes or any I’m just curious do you see a progression 10 even 20 years perhaps where you’re doing something yeah so I still think the next decade is very much going to be focused

Um now on like showcasing and building the production level around what I’m doing so making sure that if I’m doing uh a big jump or a big production the execution on that is to a high grade and even like bringing that standard up for my YouTube channel so then that way I

Can create YouTube content and be a you YouTuber or content creator for even I freaking load those terms yeah I stop loading those terms and just be that um that way that’s like one Avenue that I definitely want to pursue wholeheartedly for the next few years at least um and

That way I can then have my own brand kind of showcasing the sport of Parkour in 20 years uh I can follow like you know follow other athletes through their competition Journeys or like do a coaching uh thing and have like a a tour around doing seminars and that sort of

Stuff or uh yeah go back and make you know yeah like uh stories or you know it would be I I don’t like putting myself in this level of a claim but if like as a good example sto telling his stories of old like stunts and things like I

Think there is a way there’s like there’s a lot of stuff that I think I’ve be more comfortable to talk about in 20 years of life experience that um that uh that I think would be great you know what I mean it’s like at that

Stage it’s like it’s uh you know not in the thick of it and uh yeah like I just think there’s always there’s always stuff offc screen and and different Journeys internally emotionally whatever they may be or just the different Adventures that you had um that can can be really sellable in L

Years yeah I think building side of your brand like yeah it’s like that personality side and that really I mean to be honest it’s the same with me in a way it’s like um I’m trying to work on developing uh actually what my importance is in in in my content which

It sounds dumb but like if you compare say um I don’t know I don’t know what YouTubers you watch but I don’t know do you know who Sunny V2 is no no he just makes I don’t want [ __ ] on him he’s very successful and I could

Only pray for some of his success but he makes videos which is just people’s downfall so it’s like this guy [ __ ] up and his career is over and that’s that’s his content pretty much every yeah week and so he has got to this very high

Level um but I think if he would to start a podcast or something I think he wouldn’t get many viewers and then there’s another guy called n jaky Who does these kind of also in the same world video essays but his content is solely around his personal well not

Solely it’s personality first story second and so he if he and he set he started a music career instantly million views on the songs because people invested in him and that’s the thing I’m trying to get to yeah get some kind of like have you seen like Cody have you seen Cody Co

Per yeah yeah yeah exactly does like you know he’s got his internet personality then he’s got his podcast and it’s like he’s super likeable so then now when he makes a song it’s like million views Yeah Bang the power of it man and that’s a hard thing to do in some regards cuz

So the thing I balance is right people click on my video about Ricky jaase to hear about Ricky jaas and it’s like I I need to give respect to that but at the same time I need to build my own brand so I try and put in my opinion I try and

Have a a style of feeling that is mine and that’s like it’s a it’s a hard balance in your content as well I guess cuz at at the end of the day you want to show the jumps so there’s like that balance probably how much of me am I

Putting in how much am I talking versus how much content of like jump so maybe there’s that thing you have to kind of strike as well yeah yeah for sure you want to show like your humor and you want to show who you are and how you

Feel about the situation but in this world of content creation that we’re like sculpted into now if it’s just me and you like this is what trit streaming is for or podcasting is for if we just wanted if we if this if I made this into

A YouTube video or like a short it would just be like a horrible little piece that doesn’t go anywhere because there’s no validity and it’s not Punchy and it doesn’t doesn’t keep people drawn in for what they were meant to be here for it’s uh like you know audience retention is

One of the craziest things in in modern day Society where like 1.5 seconds is pretty much all you get to continually keep people there and then if they depending on what you know streaming service platform they’re on the options are endless for them to click away so you’re constantly fighting for people’s

Attention and uh to do that with something that you know I guess like a lot of us growing up doing parkour we never saw it through that scope we never saw it was like we find the the esoteric nuances of the sport so uh so endearing and spe like entertaining and

Interesting and you know it depending on who your demographic was like was always very much the core parkour Community then you would curate your language and your yeah insights and your things for that uh which holds back like a like if you’re just using in World terminology like inene

Terminology then like you’re losing a lot of people who are like always think of Ben saying go on go sorry you I just say benj cave always uses like stepping up to the oy and like yeah yeah I feel like you know using that’s a I think it’s a cricket

Reference I don’t want to [ __ ] that up but I’m sure it’s Cricket reference but like using that and then Translating that so then instantly you just got like a a like in the positive anyone watches Cricket or like actively knows that terminology boom you just lump them in

And they understand what that means so yeah sometimes it’s like this delicate balance of not doing things that are too Niche that put people off but sometimes doing things that are Niche actually draws people in because it makes them feel like they’re part of a like a group

So it’s like again Tyler cre Tyler Creator M the video I’m making his whole Collective was built on this very Niche underground thing where people were using terms that they created like their own memes and [ __ ] like they would say golf Wang all these kind of things and

Then um like people would be drawn in because they would see all these comments saying some of these terms and then they’re kind of like Curious like what’s golf Wang what’s this what’s you know and actually in Deepa but again you don’t want to put them off so that’s kind of the

Thing yeah for sure um I’m gonna wind down soonish do you want to run through some questions and see yeah see what people yeah for sure yeah so I did have a few actually on Instagram so give me a second that a few people just sort of

Shoot some stuff so that is French so I don’t understand that language yaso PK ask will you come to Egypt one day you been you’ve been I did a project in Egypt um oh [ __ ] like three or four years ago now it was a really really awesome

Experience uh Red Bull project got to do like flips by the pyramids and everything I didn’t get to meet as much of the local communities I would I met like a couple of um couple of locals Stand Out Omar McKell was like super super sick guy uh um but I yeah I would

Like to go back and do something with the community and actually have a jam I saw like Noah and Jason went recently and they did uh oh not Jason Noah went recently and Jimbo and they did like a community Jam around the Sho and I thought that was really cool I’d love to

Do more stuff like that oh yeah how long no plans yet no official plans how long have you actually been training parkour if you to add out now 20 August 2007 so 17 years three months mon is that no 16 years 16 years two months nearly two decades that’s one in

Twitch as well if anyone wants to drop any questions um how’s the anle recovery going you kind of touching it but how’s it going yeah uh I’m finally back to like full capacity with them I very much just have to be really diligent with my uh mobility and activation strength

Training for them um it’s just kind of like being routine and staying on top of that and then being conscious of not overloading them like you know we all know even in young years when you go too heavy you get a little locked up or something like a little stiff so I have

A tendency to do big tricks that will get me to that stage faster so I just have to kind of pick and choose my battles to make sure that I’m being paying attention to to not like to not making it worse again um so I can do full capacity and I think

The intensity or amount of that will build up over time we got why doesn’t he do cliff jumping yeah why H because water yeah this is great that’s a [ __ ] sick question I don’t find it that interesting uh Landing in water like isn’t that hard yeah and like I I

Popular so so I there’s there’s a couple of different reasons but like watching people do crazy cliff jumping is sick but when I go out to do cliff jumping I’ll like do the jump and then I got to swim however long and then I’ve got to climb up this like shitty Cliff Roots

Whatever that stuff’s not fun for me that’s all like oh cutting my feet and like you know just like even I don’t know it’s just the reset time is too much so then if I like do a big jump on the ground then I can go run up the

Stairs or get up climb back up the wall or whatever is like it’s chill if I do a cliff jump and like you know the fun ones are always for me 15 MERS plus then I’ve got to find my route back up like mountaineering 15

Me yeah and then I’m like yeah yeah and like um I’m not like you know say for example I’m you know did double out on the first one yeah then like I’m like cool I I’ll go out I’ll do triple back and then by the time I get up to the top

I’m like oh man I’m not ready to do triple back again like I just don’t have the flow of it um and then also like the yeah I guess like to do it for me to be really fun would be going to levels like Bryce pulle like do and like

Ali fat just doing like horrendous which I do think is also quite dangerous so I’m like yeah you know I don’t any anything that would take me out to parkour potentially just like goes out the window I’m like ah I might [ __ ] me up for training tomorrow I don’t want to

Do that I was thinking of that when you were saying about skateboard and I was thinking Well yeah if you manage how pissed would you be if you [ __ ] your ankle on a pop shove it yeah like how piss would you be I’d be [ __ ] vexed man I’d be like what’s

The [ __ ] point like because just’s trying to have fun and now I can’t do power anymore yeah yeah it’s the worst um I don’t know if this is an inside joke or just some do and weird but he said any gravy I don’t know if that

Means [ __ ] to you no no doesn’t mean anything to me there’s no no I don’t even I don’t even eat that much gravy with my steak or anything like it’s not a habit of you got a keep steak pure pure and H Harry Gabe said thoughts on Australian community and

Events uh Harry Gabe Shout Out Mr Gabe uh he so he runs event uh in motion 3 we’ve had a history of different competitions uh in Australia they’ve got another one happening in Melbourne soon the Balon games uh I’d say Sydney parkour itself I have more knowledge on

And we are like a pretty damn strong Community we have people like training across the whole entire State um interacting a lot huge turnout for monthly jams that sort of thing and then I know the brisan community the Melbourne Community uh the Western austalian Perth Community uh they’re all

Like really really solid and have like a lot of active people training uh even the New Zealand which uh New Zealand scene which is SE separate but has even started to now like yeah merge over with um with the Australian scene a lot I think we’ve got a really good solidarity

Across the board it’s something that honestly I I feel like from being overseas so much I am more out of touch than I’d like like be with the Australian scene yeah uh but I think we have a great Community here and I yeah definitely want to be more involved now

That I’m going to be back home more interjectionally throughout the year yeah that’s sick how can you H that’s a bit of that’s a bit of a broad question but how in like maybe a sentence how can you make a Liv in off of Parkour hun ask

I that’s a massive question but um I’ll give him a quick fire answerers there multiple ways you can do it but from coaching uh performance work uh you could do social media and content creation you could also work around parkour like uh doing videography for other athletes doing video editing um

There’s also starting your own uh like gym or starting your own company involved in parkour uh yeah there’s a number of different ways to do it uh it’s about finding what works for you and what you’re most comfortable with a lot of these things come with huge sacrifices

As parkour is still a small industry so you kind of just need to find what the best way that you can make an income while still sustaining you know a lifestyle and living you’re Happ happy with yeah I so I mean yeah like for instance I’m I did make a living for a

While making videos specifically on Niche stories and parkour so there is it kind of is open to people to make money but it’s it’s yeah entrepreneurial being creative and finding things um yeah still still or or now now I would say the last last one I didn’t mention is

Like if you’re good you can make money as a competition athlete there is now a enough of a circuit and enough paychecks like in the Fig competitions and then the independently run competitions and then the GS they have usually some sort of like small comp or mini comp that has

A cash prize or something you can make like not a full uh like full-time career if you’re not placing but if you’re placing you can make very substantial money nowadays in parkour if you’re good enough to Podium would you what’s the oh ber in the chat yes ber

How you doing sun it’s been a minute Sun he’s in this other group chat that I’ve been seen popping on Jiggles he’s a group chat boy I’m sure of it yeah yeah I love that guy King of the group chat uh yeah I mean for the Insight I’ve seen

Stuff that ver is doing that no one else has seen and he’s he’s [ __ ] killing it you say coming up uh we we don’t have we just started shooting the Australian one but um yeah I that he he’s not in Australia for that one but he’s been

Doing his own thing which yeah he’s just he’s just he’s doing well good old like there been little uptick in um parkour YouTubers like it’s been a couple years now but verki Ed yourself I’m surprised Joe hasn’t gotten it well he he literally before he said the day that he tore his Achilles

Recently he was like finally convinced he was like you know what I’m going to start a YouTube everyone’s been telling me to do it then he got injured so now I think he like he’s he’s like still potentially wants to do it but I will keep putting this sound to the universe

If I can get my YouTube to a million followers uh a million subscribers and my viewers ship’s high I’ll just bring Joe everywhere with me I’ll just fly him out for everything be [ __ ] sick so yeah if you want to see that happen go to my YouTube And subscribe if you if

Not for me for Joe do it do it for Joe poor L man yeah look don’t even subscribe for me look at what he’s doing mate what do you think of the poll thing so I just wanted I was going to just ask you about good this is good yeah go on I

Just made I just made a a I think it was like a an X thread post whatever and I was like the trend is not sliding down poles it’s how you get into the pole yeah don’t don’t just slide down a poll and post on the internet because I will

Slate you I’m like this is not it like what are you doing it’s about finding variations like same with uh like when chimney slides once Joe and I had done a few it was like okay now how do we find entries variations new ways to do it innovate

The space guys like and like there’s so many things to be done with po slides they’re so freaking easy they’re just scary like if you go up high it’s terrifying or if you have a like dodg take off they terrifying but do it off like hip hype and you’ll

Realize like jumping and catching a pole is not that scary it’s actually kind of easy um so in that sense I understand why there’s like a little bit of beg grudgement from some people being like Oh like another pole slide like I’ve seen so many of these or um but I also

When when they’re done yeah yeah and I Joe single-handedly popularized the pul slide like in my mind like yeah he was the one that made it this this this cool and and like with any Trend you see the the people who make it cool or the reason that it’s sick isn’t always

Translated like people can’t mimic that and that is what makes Joe so special and so unique is he leveled up the game in so many different ways like pop down entries front flipping in uh size height that little kind like he was falling yeah yeah those variations event

Shees like that he just really like uh set the pace and made they he made them so appealing uh and that to me was like a really really cool thing to have the power to do in the sport yeah I love the year of Joe SC for sure year of the Jo

Yeah 2 something million I didn’t even he was on 200k I think checked his follow account and he just blew up say I think this year at the start of the year I could probably get through a message he was like 400 something K and he he

Messaged me and he was like like oh yeah like um I’m starting to grow like starting to grow really well and I was like that’s so sick and I was like my my follow has been quite stagnated and he was like yeah but imagine almost being

Stuck on two M what an ick and that’s such a valid and now he’s just G oh man so it’s like yeah like what you know I think like injury can always be scary because it could through new engagement and I just had to same thing

To him I was like wait imagine being stuck on 2 mil what an Nick like terrible situation yeah I feel like the first I might I might be wrong you might think of some before this but I feel like the first parkour move like met a trend was When

Dive Kongs kind of started being a thing like with uh blue shorts massive when they started doing dive KS and all of a sudden everyone was trying to find Dive KS and that must been 2012 maybe yeah I think I think like specific move wise that was definitely one of the

Early Staples um then you had the sense quite but the sense were one yeah it’s funny because they also do like the it’s like like fashion it comes back around so I remember likei yeah yeah kadori made like downwards arm jumps and big drops like trendy again like and acceptable in

Theats was that you doing like yeah yeah that’s that was like well it’s funny because I definitely fed into like a bunch of people doing them but I don’t think I directly like I think kadori got more and like Justin Louie got more traction with like stuff

Like Capstone for the Splats but like Capstone B in this like whole trend of movement again but like yeah I think the caveman video when it was like longer run caveman video yeah this the that that like style impacts have been huge um I think paria was like a like the

Action comedy thing or the near Miss stuff yeah was came and then people people took it in their own and did their own envelopes and versions of it and you look at like someone like palansky who’s like crazy extension of that like yeah yeah almost taking that

Thing to to another level in its own way so I kind of love how they always come out of nowhere like I just I wouldn’t have seen the pulse slide thing like me and my me and Greg did a pul slide back in like 2017 it was not a p it was super

Slow we were like gripping on that [ __ ] cuz we were trying to do it so remember we just found I remember seeing it driving down the main road seeing this pole next to the top of a building I was like Greg we need to go on that building

And hang on it and slide down and we did it slow as [ __ ] I had to fast forward the footage in the video but yeah but that’s but that’s the thing is like yeah um people are like oh is there like documented history like the first

Po I’m like no because it was being done like people like you know not even in parkour like people just sliding down po forever it’s being able to take it fireman but yeah and then you got like you know then you’ve got the extended esoteric Nuance one which is like

Chinese acrobatic poll where they’re doing just like crazy like flips between and that was like showcased in Oceans 13 and that’s something that Joe and I had spoken about like being inspired by and how cool would it be and then when he was doing the backflip slides two years

Ago yeah more into poles like that was that was like a big uh thing and a lot of people adapted and like I think that one’s scarier so less people did that but as soon as poiz there was like the right balance between him making them really appealing and leveling it up and

The accessibility for an Everyday Athlete to go and try it yeah we just had a question there from J the mod we’ll just do like a couple minutes then we’ll hop off but he just said uh who’s the person who’s the person or people Dom has enjoyed work okay let’s ask this

In two ways the people you’ve enjoyed working with the most and the people you’ve enjoyed training with the most because I feel like there might be two different answers perhaps yeah yeah they are definitely uh for rang so Jason and Anan uh are like always fantastic people to work with

Like uh and I think for me the my favorite person to work with is actually Sam Carter from Capstone oh nice um yeah he did the uh Sydney Opera houseo with me and then obviously the Capstone projects as well uh and he and this relates to the other thing as well he

Brings something out of me in training specifically that um or like articulates My Level really well and then that brings into the friends I’d say as well like Sam fits in that but Joe Joe so I’ve always had like training Partners so originally I had this guy from

Australia called an mariac trained with him for years uh and then I had Marx Masters who’s still my best friend to this day uh we were training partners for years and years um and that friendship ship and training Dynamic was really what like drove drove me to be

Because he’s like an absolute weapon it just drove me to be like a high level and then you know I made lots of different connections people like verki ver is like really really close with me uh and uh but Joe is obviously the ultimate like friend and training

Partner that I’ve ever had someone who makes me makes me like you know Joe’s Joe’s are you one of my best friends in the whole wide world uh like easily um and you arguably sorry and uh like the the connection with training and also like we don’t necessarily even do

The same thing but the encouragement and the ideation and this like uh I want to say like like peer pressure between each other is so so good like it just it’s like so healthy him or did how did it how that friendship yeah well I met uh

Like I was friends with Eric Moore and then I had a couple interactions Joe like yeah disappeared as well yeah such a light bright warming person but um yeah so Joe and I met through him then Joe came to Australia for the Apes jump off and I just like already thought he

Was the coolest dude so I was just vying for his attention and then like most parkour people I eventually wore him down to accepting me and then now we’re really good friends it’s been awesome chat man it’s been great to catch up I don’t think I’ve seen you in why would have been

Asia I think last bloody young yeah I was trying to trying to catch up with you in this UK trip but as said seven days [ __ ] like a nightmare to try and like I managed to see a couple of people it was yeah was tough just fitting it

All in I’m my goal is I think this January I’m going to start seeing a physio I’ve been go a gym a lot so I’ve been helping lot but I think I’m going to see a physio January and then just try aim for summer next year to be able

To at least go to a session and I don’t know [ __ ] do a climb up at least go TR yeah yeah sick man yeah I think just like even if you go out and do it at like a a lower capacity you’ll still really enjoy yourself just uh moving but

You do have to get to that stage where moving is comfortable because that that’s the problem right now my knee and Flame so bad I can’t walk for like a week so it’s like yeah yeah that’s like it’s just you shouldn’t be jumping like that’s one thing that’s hard to say as

Well it sucks but like if your knees in flaming then you should be jumping like you just dial it all the way back hit the gym keep strong go see a Physio and yeah much love man really good chat yeah love you bro I’ll see you soon man all

Right take it easy guys have fun on twitching