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Welcome welcome welcome welcome Happy New Year Merry Christmas bit late for that one but Happy New Year hope everyone is well welcome back to the live stream so it’s the first of the month and normally this is done on a Monday but obviously it was New Year on
The Monday so and I wasn’t here I was in Valencia and um yeah roaming is not great on Vodafone just put it out there actually ver phone is better in uh Spain than it is in the UK in some regions anyway so uh welcome everyone happy New Year to everybody so
There’s been some chat already as you can see in the uh chat box to see if we can get the right one up because um oh is there two oh my word there’s two cuz accidentally I shall we say um killed the wrong one let’s get that one
Better in there there we go so hopefully if I can get rid of one of these it won’t be the worst thing in the world Eeny meany miny it’s still on so 50/50 worked there you go right so it’s going to be mauno Pro 241 243 245 update Kyle’s in the
House hello Kyle hello Mac hello Ted hope you are well Neils we’ve been in here for a little while so yep we’ve had a very small shat already um poor Ted said he’s hung over ah yes so Adrian’s in the house Perry’s da who else we got Mike m got
Robert’s in the house oh else we got the top here anyone else just chitchat so guys I’m still alive yes car you were saying about you’ve been busy Morocco or Monaco in I can’t remember which one it was Monaco Phil was in a house h hello Phil hope you’re well and
We’re having a chat today about these things the light obviously makes it look much shinier than it actually is this is not as shiny as it looks on camera um it’s shiny but it’s and everyone knows what my shininess levels are like I like shiny and so let’s get back let’s get to
The nitty-gritty this is the 241 this is the one that I’ve been waiting for and I would say it’s marginally shinier than 245 um let cut to the Chas straight away do I like it I like the Aesthetics from the point of view of the shape I do that
It looks like an MP5 let’s not mess around it does look like an MP5 I should have really got my MP5 out ready but effectively guys you know what an MP5 looks like and yes it looks very very similar to an MP5 but it’s not double Chrome
Which is a shame not quite getting used to it yet um I picked them up uh late yesterday I flew in yesterday so they as you can see are fitting heads these are not media samples the one good thing about doing that guys is that I’ve got
Some content to do it Monday 2 p.m. I think is the Embargo so I’m a busy busy beat I’ve already captured information for certain parts of information for 24 five the hollow bodied one that’s well I would say out of all of them had the most adjustments to it now I’ve got a
Technical presentation of which I will not go through every single thing because it would bore the pants off people not really unless you really want to see it um but I’m going to pop this into the Project X 6.0 shaft so I can do every single one of these heads with the
Same shaft to keep every single person on the planet happy I don’t really care about what shaft I have and for the guys that have followed me for quite some time understand exactly why um right so Don says let’s go let’s make sure I’m not um losing anyone here
Mark M 778 says looking forward to announcement of the Pro Series in the US 8th 2:00 p.m. UK time so 8 a.m. 900 a.m. whatever different part UK yeah whatever you are in the US we’re looking at about then and that’s going to be all about these things now should I show them
Technically no that the European embargo again is not until Monday at yeah 2: p.m. but I don’t think I’m breaking any rules really when every single person on the planet has seen these things from Asia and of course as soon as they released back in whenever last year everyone had
A rush to learn Japanese because it was all on the Japanese website uh what they look like and how much technology they’ve got in them and all that there’s nothing really about the mauno pro that we can’t find out with some fun Google searching but I’m going to show them to
You on live stream uh this is obviously subscribers open to my subscribers and also members so welcome to all the members so on the chat the is you can see by the side of me anyone in Gray is a non-member a subscriber possibly but a non-member and all ones with the funny
Colors are members and we have a weekly live stream where we talk about this kind of stuff members only uh go into a bit more detail about certain things and yeah if you want to be a member pop on my homepage next to my subscribe button
There’s a join button have a little look on there and um yeah you can just peruse and see if you want to become a member or not so um Mark M 778 fly high on the eth as well yes it is it’s a black
Variety as um um the old one and I got the old one over here now forgive the fact that I haven’t tucked myself in I’m having a busy day and I’ve got very hot because I’ve been hitting lots of shots so there you go we’ll put out there Drew
Says going to hit these today or not yet no I’m not allowed to do any hitting so the Embargo obviously is on Monday the 8th I am skirting the line by me showing you these and describing certain things inside them there is no there is information out there
Already if you really want to go look on Google it’s out there so I’m not putting anything on this necessarily on the screen that you won’t have already known now I may or may not put um something on the screen not quite sure it um gold teacher 67 this is awesome
I’m joining well thank you very much um but yeah it’s skirting the line right so the fly high as you can see not tucked in it doesn’t matter so I’ve got my misso Pro samples um 2 two in the bag there you go we’ll get it
In the camera so there you go there is the old one when I say old okay it looks ridiculously shiny and yes because I generally speaking keep all of my equipment as best I can do in a little bit of an OCD um way cuz again golf equipment generally speaking it looks
Really nice when you buy it and of course it gets absolutely muddied scratched and wrecked when you play but um generally speaking the the testing that I do is always done in control conditions because I like to be able to control conditions and not let conditions which I can’t control control
The result if that makes sense so Li angle mle hello Min um right so Li angle standard 61 and a half degre on a 7 iron of the Muna Pros uh what this one is I don’t know have to look at the specification on this one but again this
Is the old one say the old one it is the old one rocket ship this thing was wow my uh but yes there is a new one coming it is uh slightly improved over the old one all of these are slightly improved over the oh did he enjoy your chat your
Live chat with Chris I loved my little uh poor Dave Dave’s the marketing Guru um for mauno very hot there when it comes to the marketing side um he was referee when it comes to Chris and I it was very like when you got me for my technical side and then Chris
Obious an engineering background and he’s just like a Muno stick a rock here if you were to cut Chris in half he would say mauno through him so him and I could go on for ages about the technical aspects of center of gravity placements and how head flexing and all stuff like
Because obviously that’s how I do I measure stuff and tell you guys how it actually performs now obviously Chris will say everything good about mauno because well he’s employed by mauno for one thing so of course he’s going to say everything that’s good um I am on a
Different side of things of course I have my um own preference what I like to wear and stuff however I am not paid by mauno so I can do what the heck I want and if it’s good it’s good if it’s not so good I will say
Now I would already say this and I’m not quoting any kind of numbers yet so anyone from Muno cuz this is an open live stream which anyone can watch if anyone from Muno is watching I am not going to be posting any performance data whatsoever I am just going to say
Something the same thing is this I’ve already done some data sets over this two four five yeah uh that is probably as shiny as you’ll ever see that looks Chrome it’s not Chrome yeah um if I could I can’t really get it’s just the light that I’ve got it’s just really
Going to make that look a lot chromer than it actually is it’s not Chrome it’s matte Chrome brush Chrome whatever you want to call it it’s a shame because it would look lovely if it was Chrome I will have to see if I can get the old
Girls polished when I get my media samples through nobody has got media samples the chances are guys if you are a mauno fan and you want information about the mauno stuff is going to be an interesting one because my channel might be the only one who has a independent
Review the zuno themselves will have stuff from America and a certain amount of content that they’re going to release on the 8th which is Monday at 2 p.m. UK time um but there’s not going to be anything from the YouTubers why there was a slight shall we say logistical
Mess up when it comes to the samples so no one including me has got no samples no one has got no samples that actually means that someone’s got samples double negatives nobody’s got any samples there you go so that means I have had to use contacts to try and get hold of
These things fitting heads these are the DNA fitting heads the good thing about using these for the review and what I mean by the review I’ve got four to do I’ve got the main one that will come on Monday and that will be welcome to the
Mauno pro range 241 243 245 this is what they are this is how they look like this is how they feel these are the golfers which are going to suit these if you’re looking for the full on forgiveness review which I will normally do one every single in-depth that will be the
Days after so the next day will possibly be the 24 five that one there that’s the one that’s people’s going to have most tension towards then I will have the 2 43 which is one of these little kids as you can see and then finally the ones
That will have about 12 watches um the 2 41 so 245 first 2 43 next and 2 41 after that so there you go that is the plan of attack uh new Fairways on the eight Dawn yes you are right they are maxing maxing maxing but they’re not coming on the eth
They’re coming on the 20th yeah 20th something like that I’ll have a look at the Embargo I haven’t got my media samples yet so I don’t know I do know but yeah right so Drew says do you think the blade is going to be more forgiving for
Some reason it looks thicker from the back and maybe higher CG did did you sorry you did a video on 221 being pretty forgiven for a blade considering blades 2024 yes is it going to be any different is it going to be more forgiving no actually it’s got potential to be less
Forgiving and so I I actually see mauno are moving around a little bit in the two four series now there’s going to be a lot of I don’t know what people are going to say there’s going to be so much stuff out there that people are going to be
Talking about when it comes to these things I’m going to be I’m going to be moved by the data so I will have my own personal thoughts I look at this and if you guys if you look at that right that is a blade and effectively that blade is like an MP5 an
MP5 has got the meat straight behind the middle and then blooming not a lot around the else around the other parts the mp20 was okay MP18 went full full on across so like a slab of metal across like T TN 87 was it built on something
Like that any way all across and then the mp20 went so it slanted off slightly at the toe then 221 come with a little bit more slant on the toone and a little bit off the heel and now they’re moving again towards the MP5 which the MP5 is basically that
Isn’t it it’s like a v in the middle and that is what you’re going to get which it does mean potentially you’re going to get a much more solid feel from the middle but if you start deviating around the face especially horizontally heel toe you might have a little bit of a fun
Time with front or north north south front back dispersion I’m not saying that’s true it’s just so from the physics of looking at it and the physics would suggest that if you put more mass in the middle and less Mass around the outside um the okay without going crazy
The central Gravity the head gets closer to the shaft axis Central gravity which makes which means effectively make the head less stable which has got more propensity then to twist Etc when you hit it away from that middle you could see that Chris and I could talk feet too long but there you
Go um where do we let’s go make sure I’m not missing anyone um are you allowed to tell us get it on the buffer wheel says Perry I really want to get them on the so as soon as I get my uh media samples my media samples will be for the
Comparisons between 221 241 24 43223 and 2252 45 there you go I’ll be using them for the comparisons because the comparisons can come after and as yet I still don’t know when the media samples are going to arrive so I’m having to use my contacts to get hold of fitting heads
Good news with the fitting heads it means I can obviously use the same shaft for every single one so no one will complain about the shaft with these guys I’m not quite sure necessarily what the speed of these are going to be for my reviews normally I will try as time goes
On I’m tailoring my reviews more so where the speed consensus is of how fast I should be swinging for the golf clubing question okay everyone swings at different speeds so it’s very very difficult to turn around and say right well only golfers that swing at 74 milph
Can use these golf clubs no everyone can it’s just I’m trying to keep as many people as I possibly can happy which again when you’re trying to keep everybody happy the only thing you’re going to be succeeding in is not keeping everybody happy right so car did you did you enjoy
Your live chat with Chris I did yes as a 225 guy I look forward to watching uh this video over from the start I tell you what um I will say this and without without excuse me without still I had a cold about how long ago six weeks ago a month
Ago however long still not as yet completely gone um I’ve done the 245 already yeah when it comes to forgiveness stuff I’ve been busy hitting it today A lot of times and I will say this promising the 225 was amazingly good in its time when
I say it’s time two years old but the problem you had I 525 come along and it was exceptionally good heel toe still is exceptionally good heel toe the new p790 come along with its increas in tungsten Etc and it is really very very good and
So the 225 is getting a little bit long in the tooth when you compare it to the modern modern day stuff not of its time but it was one of the best of its time but you put it to now and effectively with the increase of tungston effectively being used I mean that’s
What it is we are talking about multimaterial in the 245 it’s a hollow body multimaterial head and it is designed to try and help people as much as possible so you are going to have the biggest Gap in difference where technology is input so from the blade
Where what can you do really with the blade you can change it athetics and change your CG position to try and help against strike and stuff like of course you can do you can get the two 43 and make micr slots bigger and stuff like that yes you can
Um but there’s a certain thing you can do with blades but as you go up in the size especially you can have a bit more um Free Will and free uh rain to uh do some Tweaky Tweaky they the 245 currently I am quite excited about it is
Very very forgiving they’ve got 47 Gram now nearly 50 gr of tungston in the 245 up from its 28 or 30 so a considerable upgrade it’s lower in the head it’s still not touching the sole so the the sole believe it or not conflex during impact the reason why they don’t have it
On the on the sole directly obviously for center of gravity placement it’d be brilliant if it was right on the on the sole as in inside but as low as you POS we can do but the problem by actually touching physically touching the sot is that then it stops the so from flexing
And giving you an extra little bit of help especially when you hit it low on the face um so it’s still floating but it’s very very close at the S right let’s catch up um make sure I’m not missing anything um Ian hello Ian hi Jay
First of these uh I’ve caught for ages is there much difference in size between 223 2 43 22524 five yes okay yes there is and no there isn’t mauno are saying that there is a distinct um size that we’ve gone smaller let me get this through people’s minds um it’s
Marginal it is mar let’s see if I can do something here and again I’m not doing this now this is kind of skirting the rules a little bit and so I apologize to Muno if I shouldn’t and I I shouldn’t show this however I I don’t necessarily they’ve said it’s smaller and
I don’t necessarily think I’m going to get in too much trouble by actually saying I just got to try and work out where I’ve put it now um will you be getting the Master’s edition of the two for one in green no I won’t I don’t I haven’t put I I don’t
Want them I’ll might get them I tell you what I might actually get the Master’s bag I’m interested more in the Master’s bag the tour bag than I am the actual golf clubs the copper ones I’ve got some copper MP 20s um over there in my little
Display that I’ve got cuz they were Lov I did get a set of those yes because they were just lovely they they really were um I’m not into the green like no different I didn’t get any set of the blue 221s cuz I’m not really into the
Blue um window capture is it that one I get or is it right there we go right okay so for the people ready this is the 243 we’re talking about 243 um there you go that is a head length difference the difference between say a 79 is
77 um 7 millim down to 76.5 we’re talking two millimet possibly not one in a bit Yeah so it’s not huge guys yeah so I won’t go into everything because obviously the whole idea is not to show everything I mean that doesn’t show anything really from a point of view of
How well it just GOI show that mauno have said themselves that the new series have got slightly smaller have they yes have they got massively smaller no remember guys there are still blades out on the market which are still smaller than a 241 this 241 I’ve got here yeah
Is not a very big Golf Club yeah not very big you compare that to a cobra MB Cobra MB is looking wise smaller if you go to some of the uh of the uh what’s it called Brands direct consumer Brands some of them are smaller
So I I know there was a certain amount of Kickback especially on the forums about oh why did Mauna have to go small again they’re not it’s not like they’re going okay we’re now cutting the head length of a 79 down to 70 mm it’s not
It’s still going to be of a certain size it’s just certain 1 and a half mm smaller yeah right let’s go have a quick make sure I don’t miss on anything here I’m trying to scroll up but it’s not allowing me as you can see by the shaky screen um so um
Don says so a mixed two fours pitching wed 99 892 41 89 79243 and six and five and two4 mix and match possibly but the Lofts are going to be interesting because obviously you’re running a one club gap between 241 245 as in when I say that uh 79 say for a
34° 241 a 30° 245 79 so there and 69 and a 241 is 30° so there’s your one club gap 7 for seven but it’s a 7 to six so you either going to have to do some very interesting bendy strong and bendy weak to marry the two or you’re going to have
To double up and what I mean by double up you’re going to have to have two of the same golf clubs like two s irons or something like that so you can and just make the double up one half inch longer I’ve just I’ve discussed that before but
I mean it’s definitely doable cuz we done it I’ve done it plenty of times on 22122 3225 especially on the 221 225 because obviously they look so blooming similar and now even it’s a case you’re going to be struggling to try and tell these apart you can tell them apart because
Obviously one is slightly bigger than the other and one has got slightly more aggressive Mar round so this one here as you can see um slightly thinner soles Etc um that’s probably not a great example uh there’s that one there there we go so you can see slightly difference
In so thickness y um Top Line slightly thicker in 245 yes but we’re not talking massively and look they are the main things they look very very similar so Bonk possible good Bailey hello Bailey um is a 243 significantly small than the 223 I’ve just said that hard to go away
From my 21 T100 but might consider 2 41 243 Blend or a set of 243s um 243 have it in my hands here is it considerably smaller um no is it smaller yes it is I’ve got my um old old I’ve got my two two three media samples over
There and effectively I will just whack this into a shaft and put them up um together so that’s what I will do when I get my media samples through I think I’ve got five seven and nine coming and I will put them up against when I do the
Compare between 223 2 43 I’ll do the yeah guys we are talking about a it’s a model don’t I I want to get I want to manage people’s expectations here because when obviously the hype comes from a new mauno launch are no different to a new tailor mate launch or a
Callaway launch or something like that people can get in their heads a little bit that these things are going to go to the moon now what we are talking about is an incremental uh change if you already have 223 and I wouldn’t necessarily throw them away and get don’t throw them away but
Obviously sell them on but I wouldn’t be jumping out there to instantly get 243 the 243 is going to have benefits over 223 because of the micr slot inside the micr slot inside has changed now again this bit that I’m going to put up on the screen I have seen on American
Not American on Japanese Um if I can find it I have seen it and so if I can say I’ve seen it which I have done I can show it because this has been on a Japanese website so I am not going to get in trouble here by putting this out
Here as you can see there guys you got a flow micro slot from eight Ion with no slot to a 67 to four and five you can see the six and the Seven have got a smaller slot and the four and five is a bigger wider slot the wider and longer
Slot in the four and five is to help obviously with the increased launch and faster ball speeds Etc um that is obviously to promote a higher flight and increased carry now generally speaking guys remember your carry in the longer irons is always going to be the one that
Suffers through the issue with speed the slower you are the harder it is to launch those uh longer irons so if you’re someone who really likes the longer irons then something like that is going to help okay even with the help of the micr slot and the redesigned micr
Slot it will be it will be more beneficial than 223 absolutely it will how much will it marginally we are not talking something which is going to be hitting 223 hit 2 43 and you stand there Gob smacked flip my sticks what is going on
Is not going to be like a hybrid it’s not just going to launch off at a what the heck happened there it is going to be a small amount but small thing so again if you running 223s would I jump out and get 2 43s no I wouldn’t I’ll be
Honest no you you there this the difference is going to be so it’s the justification of money if you had no money justification worries whatsoever and you’ve just got money burning whole in your pocket and you want the best that you can get well then get them absolutely because there will
Be there will be benefits over the 223 no different to the 245 will absolutely be again I’ve done my certain amount of testing with 245 at the moment and I can already tell you there is a difference between 225 and 245 the new one so that
One yes but again if you’ve got 225s I wouldn’t like be selling them on eBay and jumping out and buying these 245 straight away um absolutely test them but depending on what your justification is money against performance that’s individual to everybody you’ll have to make that decision for yourself right um let’s
Make sure I don’t miss any of these um Drew says when it comes to a combo set I’m considering as a 14 handicap going four to S and 245 who uses a 4 iron nowadays 4 iron and a 245 is it something like 212° um in 245 then 241 and8 to pitching
Which good combo uh yes but or go eight iron in 245 as well depends um eight iron you’ve got plenty of Loft so so if you’ve got um Mis strikes happening which of course 14 handicapper or any handicapper golf doesn’t matter if you’re a um teaching pro everyone Miss strikes stuff um
Having the more forgiving head will always make the difference it will always be more helpful however there’s a point of where loft is your biggest friend and as soon as you start going a iron you could potentially I would say if you’re going to do the transition the
Problem you’re going to have is lofting so I did a lot of sets uh when I was custom fitting and coaching fulltime i’ done a lot of sets to going 221 225 blend and they stopped at 79 and they had two 79 the two4 22 yeah two the
22579 was half inch longer and no Loft adjusted because of the standard Loft adjustments are different between 221 and 225 no different to the 241 and the 245 as soon as you get to a s ey they are like for like from a one up so like
A six sign it’s the same as a seven in a two four five and so by just adding half an inch to the 245 or 225s uh 7 it acted like the 6 iron 241 and had the same Loft as this um 6ine 241 or 221 it just
Had the technology of the 245 which helped increase launch bit springier face because obviously Mis strikes happen more as shaft increases and having the more of a forgiving multi VAR thickness ctech face um is beneficial it’s up to you but there are multitude of ways you can do
It I would always say go if you’re going for performance always go for the performance in that case go eight ir and the 245 as well um but there’s a lot of Loft on an 8on the the difference between what the margins are with an eight iron is smaller than the seven and
The the nine is even smaller than the eight and the pitch image is even smaller than that and of course you get to a point of where effectively doesn’t matter what technology you’ve got it’s like the the classic wedges idea when you’re hitting a 58 degree wedge and people go on about
The fact that I can’t play bladed wedges and then you got the game improvement wedges the cavity back wedges well actually the the how the how the um technolog is working is actually helping you vertically it’s not helping you forward because the loft is past 45°
So it gets to a point where technology when you’ve got like a a 79 with 34° or 30° and something like that and then you the face is looking forward and all the technology is helping that golf ball stay straight left and right but as soon
As you start putting the Loft up like this well that’s not really left it’s not helping at all just doesn’t really work but there you go um Bailey says is a 243 significantly smaller than 223 I’ve just done that one um Don says swing speed 9 79 to 83
Miles an hour please it would be pointless da I’ll be honest when it comes to that because with these now these are now starting to change a little bit I always had obviously these blades are generally speaking going to be for players of faster swing speed so
There’s no point really me doing these at 79 mph or whatever because it’s going to alienate the vast majority of people which are going to be using these so I will have to do these faster when you’re looking at when you’re looking at even 245 now 245
Is now changing I used to call this the blending iron with the forged I used to say that these are the blending irons you could call the bridging irons sorry you can actually quite easily have a set of these and the forged in one the thing is now the The Lofts have not
Changed however the technology and also the design of their heads Etc because they’re getting smaller there is now a bit more of a split between the pro and the jpx and so yes you can Bridge them but it’s a little bit where you could quite easily it’s not
Too much of a jump going from jpx 923 forged and then into a 225 because a 225 was basically a very very similar size to forge Frac smaller but very very similar size the technology is such I mean it but now with 245 it gets a bit smaller
It’s it’s now starting to become its own thing and so the blurring of the bridge is now starting to separate a bit and so you either am becoming more of a pro player or a jpx player so I’ll run I’ll probably run the um uh mid 80s to try and keep as many
People happy as I possibly can do because of the separation starting to become now on the uh on the uh misso Pro so we’ve got uh new Muno golf balls on the eth um no don’t believe so these new Muno golf balls that we’ve had for a year
Now they’re not new they suppose if they’re old if they’ve been you kind of get the idea um yeah they are around and they will stay around they’re a blooming good ball um they are mauno best ball they’ve ever made and if truth be told they Pro
The the tour the standard tour works very very similar in spin profile and flight Dynamics and everything else to a in between a left Dash and a prov1 and then the X very much so kind of marries the flight characteristics of v1x effectively copied it they haven’t copied it because of
Course they’ve done 99 prototypes and stuff like that but again let’s be honest if you’re going to do something like make a golf ball why would you make a they tried it the last time so so I’ve got some old golf ball old golf balls they’re still new but the old type golf
Ball now there is nothing wrong with the old type golf ball especially for senior golfers the old golf ball or the old design golf ball spins more and for a senior golfer when you has spin Orient or swing orientated speed wise um spin issues having a golf ball which spins
More can be an absolute godsend he can give more distance and more control overnight so the old ball from Muno no different to the Kirkland ball which is a very spinny golf ball is actually a really good thing in the right person’s uh hands you put that into a higher
Swing speed player and of course when the my golf spy do all their testing and stuff generally speaking we’re talking about higher swing speed testing and all that lot then the old golf ball did rubbish and so because again it wasn’t tested at the um at the speed that it
Really need to be tested for for the type of people that would really benefit from that um so maun obviously has gone for the the same thing that that Titus have been doing for years and basically just pumping the Prov and provie 1 x out
Um and doing top in the charts top in the charts top in the charts because obviously they’re they’re focusing their ball and they’re focusing the uh their performance of their ball based on what most testers will test with and test at speed wise Etc and of course there you go
Um Eric says more Tung at the bottom yes more Mish hit penalty for striking above the center of gravity on the face no not necessarily um the uh you might have a slight spin reduction definitely if you can hit high in the face however the biggest penalty um hitting above the
Center of gravity is not the issue of spin reduction for gear effect because on an iron well you got a certain amount of it depending on what the iron you have but the biggest penalty above all to hit above the center of gravity as a mish hit you’ve got to be connecting
With the floor first if the ball’s on the floor and you have to hit high on the face you’ve either got to be physically delofting the head like so ridiculously which you won’t but you you’re going to be hitting the ground first that’s your biggest penalty nothing to do with hitting above the
Center of gravity you get away with it with hybrid but different go but yeah um have the jpx 245s and have the J jp45 jpx yeah and promising is a great descriptor sorry Albert I’m not quite getting that one uh my probably my fault rather than
Yours but if you rewrite that one I will happily read it out KL says swing speed 135 miles hour please yeah I’ll get down the gym I’ll be like 135 milph don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone swing at 79 at 135 miles an hour YTD and for the gray the people in Gray
Who don’t know what YTD is YTD among the members stands for YouTube drink because I talk a lot well of course I would do if I stand here well not stand if I stood I be like I’m very short I sit here in silence I don’t know what you guys will
Be listening to silence I guess so yeah I need every so often having a white TD so um Mr Mumble hello Mr Mumble hope you’re well will we be getting the master edition of the go for one in green no um I haven’t put in for them I
Don’t really like them I’m not summoning for the um special ed stuff with the exception of the copper headed mp20 the copper-headed mp20 were just beautiful and I have got a set in my display case because the copper headed ones were just lovely uh Neil says no Hang on we’re not
Don we missed on Don um Don says golf clubs are there to be used not put in a case I beg to differ um Neil says it is being used for being displayed yes I will agree I absolutely do agree um I have I have a thing about
Um I love equipment I love golf and so I don’t see necessarily the point in hiding stuff away I like necessary displaying it that’s why I have all got all my golf clubs it doesn’t matter what manufact to they’re from they’re all out around now sometimes you see them
Sometimes you don’t depending on what the camera angles Etc is but I have got everything around too much to be honest but yeah I have got enough stuff um hello Dylon I hope you’re well I notice the Muna logo is back is black compared to previous images what which I’m so
Happy with do you know why um no Aesthetics but bear in mind these are the fitting heads I will not know until I get hang on bear with is there anything here that shows who it goes to yes on this side so yeah just just checking um I don’t
Necessarily want to put so this is the box of Wonder anyone who’ like to know the bo box of Wonder this is the box of Wonder so let’s go for what we got so this you’ve already seen is the 2 43 standard head so what do you see
Different um I am I am I am I am 2° um upright I’m 63 and a half degrees from my 79 of a standard length so I have the two uphe heads now again um what color they will be I will let everybody know as soon as I get my um media
Samples we won’t know Don says my mura MC 52s are small I like a challenge nothing wrong with small heads I mean I’ve got where is it around here the Cobra MB um where are you Cobra mbb you stick out like a sore blooming thumb you do uh
Where are you you got to be here cuz yeah is it’s oh messed up it I messed up my display of all golf clubs now when I say display of all golf clubs they’ve got so many golf clubs in there I I’ve got to stick them together if not they
All get messed up and none of them go in so there’s the Cobra MB right and I will not lie as I never do um I don’t like it because I’m too stupid to have to remember what I’ve said um yeah that’s the 241 is the 241 that’s the 241
Guys the 241 is smaller than 221 or the whole things are smaller all the Muno Pro are slightly smaller some people on the forms are wi you know misso why you making golf clubs small we need we’re not all tour players and stuff like that there are golf clubs
And this this is not this is just an example there are golf clubs already which are even smaller than the new smaller stuff so yeah don’t don’t stress honestly guys it’s not worth stressing um the Cobra MB by the way is just lovely right so um golf addicts happy New Year all
Happy New Year hope you’re well golf addict um have you got any more stuff yet um hi is everyone Hi J cheers it’s nice to have you back golf teacher compar the compare the mp8 MMC versus to 243 that’d be a very interesting test um
In my box of lovelies I have got mp8 stuff although I think is 6ine some remind me when the DNA moved from um 6ine to 79 I cannot remember if it was MP18 or if it was mp20 I can’t remember but either way have got it not quite
Sure how well it will be lofted and stuff like that obviously to get um a like for lier but the MMC will be more forgiving off the toe it will be less forgiven off the heel because of that lump tungsten insert excuse me YouTube windy pops um
Perry Mason says hello Perry my better half and I and no sorry my better half and not my golf decide whether I get new go oh yeah yeah well I’m lucky the fact that I get delivered stuff uh because if I had to buy stuff I think I would be down very
So much to your rout um I have enough golf stuff I don’t think the wife would like it if I continue to buy more D um driving range King hello driving range King hope you’re well and glad you’re having along but I is it worth upgrading
From my ping s55 now that is a really good point because obviously you’re talking s55 are not brand brand new I very very soon guys I’ve got the blueprint s iron review coming out and for driveing range King s55 you really want to be looking at that um video
So the blueprint s coming is a very nice golf club it’s replacing the i59 i59 is gone and the blueprint s is replacing it so all that Lumi core and stuff that we had in i59 has now been obviously retired and we are back to standard oh I
Want to say what it’s called now I can’t remember what kind of Steel it is someone says something I remember it but it’s 8620 don’t if it is 8620 now I don’t know it’s a nice forged steel and it’s lovely and it’s fairly forgiving for
What it is um I would say is a nice excuse me it’s a nice upgrade from i59 feel wise absolutely performance-wise are you going to notice that much difference possibly not but you are going to have the blending potential with blueprint T which is their new version of the old blueprint uh
Blueprint s which is i59 and also i230 I could see people within the ping world going absolutely mental over this new blueprint and i230 blending opportunity um ping are really doing because let’s be honest years ago ping never really was a players option they done a lot for the
On the G range and stuff like that they did a lot of stuff like that but they never really cated for the player now yeah they’re doing well only thing I can do I think better is their driving iron their Udi their you know kind of long iron direct long iron replacement kind
Of that kind of golf club uh the hybrids are great F was are great drivers are amazing the 10K Max driver is coming out the same day as well very very good as well um right so Ed hello Ed gamble a 79 225 on a six iron Shar acting a six ir
And a 221 set will have a different swing we it will do but as soon as you ask them to build it that way they will build it so it’s you’re not doing this in your garage right so Ed I I severely would suggest that if anyone wants to do
This they do it properly they do not start hacking away at their set and just deci side it’ be a good idea to get some epoxy out and glue certain things no no just let the guys if you’re going to get fit get fit properly understand what you
Need and then obviously have everything set the right way but yeah uh Charlie says 8.7 handicap currently gaming 919 tours would you recommend two 43s throughout or could I game two 41s in the shorter irons Charlie if you haven’t tried the 923 tours yet I know we’re talking 919 to
921 to 9 23 tours the 923 tours are just lovely they are slightly more forgiving than 241s being the smallest cavity on Earth but there is a slight but it is slightly more forgiving than a 221 off the toe and the way that the new
Two uh two 241 is like that the the meat is right in the middle I I don’t think there’s going to be much help around the outsides I could be wrong it I might be wrong anyway because on the basis of what I’ve already done with
Two uh 245 and it’s got to be that tungsten in there that strip of tungsten which goes the entire like it’s just blooming funny for a play as iron I was surprised um Albert says I bought a set of 245s from Japan a few months back sorry looking forward to a
Review don’t don’t apologize Albert there were many people as soon as they were they were released everyone raced to try to get to the Google translate button so we can work out what’s um what’s inside these heads and again all all of the information or near enough all the information has already been
Shown to the world um from Asia already so um it’s not going to be a it’s not going to be a shock put it this way um the the biggest issue from Muno mizuno’s point of view and it was a logistics problem was the fact that they’re not going to have any media
Samples um supplied to any of the YouTubers on on bargain day I mean normally I mean on the 22 series 221 223 225 I got them back end of November so I had all of December to create the content that I needed for it and then to be released in
January um we’re in the same situation now same within reason same uh embargo date but no media samples so that’s why I’m having to use fitting heads now fitting heads actually there is Advantage obviously because that means I can use the same shaft so we don’t get in this concept um issue of
Saying well again I don’t I’m not shaft sensitive so it makes no difference to me anyway but for the people that haven’t watched me before and all that loot it’s just so much easier just to use the same sha because it just shuts people up it does um Brett says hello
Brett as um as I am listening to this I am getting bombed with advertisements from the new McGregor irons I wonder if you will test these love my jpx 923 hot metal Pros by the way um if McGregor want to send me some to test I will give them the same scrutiny
Test that I always do with every single thing and if it’s good I will say and if it’s a bunch of uh useless not not very good I will also say that too but I’ll do it in a way which is constructive and I won’t just say they’re
Useless most golf club what you’ll find is there is they work really well out the middle there is not many golf clubs which do not work out the middle the only one that doesn’t work as well out the middle as it should do and is a crafty bit of um
Technical Tom FY is the stealth HDs from tailor made they are not as springy out the middle as they could be because it automat automatically they’ve made the outside of spring as they can do their basic within reason hybrid heads but they’ve slowed the middle down now
That’s not official and I apologize if to anyone from Taylor Maid who saying that’s not right we haven’t done that but that’s every single time I test the HDs that is what I find is the fact that the middle is not as spring as it should be technically for its construction and
Its Loft because it then makes the outsides obviously springy ER relative to the middle which means as soon as you don’t hit the middle you outside because you naturally get a drop off anyway you they they within reason have the same efficiency they the HDs are brilliant for keeping efficiency with anywhere you
Hit it doesn’t matter but it does come from point of where the middle isn’t as fast as it could be okay the HD is made for a completely different type of golfer than what we’re talking about 241s and 245s and 2 43s even these guys you are going to have especially 241 in
My hands you’re going to have to hit these relatively close to the middle um hybrid heads are made for different golfers any word uh this is slly Town hello slly Town any word on new jpx tour I’m guessing they are dropping the tour soon
Uh no jpx 923 tour is a part of the set and will be until at least the 925 tour whenever that will be probably guessing 2025 but yeah Mar mind sorry I’m late and the main event happy New Year everyone happy New Year that’s all right there’s no worries Carl says managed to
Get a brand new set of Cobra King tour Mims for 329 have you have those Jay um not hit them yet only arrived today not the Mims no I haven’t um I would be surprised if there’s much difference actually between them generally speaking you’re you’re talking it has to be something
Miraculous for for a manufacturer in one iteration to do a massive jump and it’s only potentially because the previous one was crap and so because that doesn’t happen much anymore because most manufacturers make very good stuff you don’t have that what moment it’s more of a last year’s model to this year’s model
Is a slight iterational change where there’s a performance boost not jump boost and a forgiveness boost not jump you get exceptions of course you do but within reason there you go um Leon Al alilia I should know that sounds like a Spanish name I could be
Wrong again um I’m spent sort of four days or so in Valencia I think I should be better at saying things like that now but I’m sorry I ter pronounce on things 923 Forge where to blend and with what struggle hitting 6 and five iron well you could quite easily go to something
Like a hot metal pro in the six and five just do a bit of Bendy bendy you have wheel you’ve got room to bend the hmps or even the hot Metals you can even bend a hot metal or if you’re really struggling you could actually Bend one de strong a HL
Now a HL is considerably larger than a 923 Forge but if you are struggling with strike and results from a six and five going to a HL will make the world of difference so I would it all depends obviously if you want something which is
Going to be easy to hit and just as nice looking you’re you’re kind of bending the rules of physics there because of one hand giveth the other kind of froze back someone else it’s a bit of a yeah you don’t get one or the other but if
You can kind of get over the differences in looks no different I go to a hybrid after a five on I go to a hybrid now a hybrid is much bigger than a straight bladed face loveliness of a blade but at one point you have to remember you’ve
Got to go from one all the way to a driver driver’s massive so it’s just trying to get this yeah uh golat says um have I got more stuff now that you are just got a two wood pxg Gen 6 and a three hyro tailor made HD ordered some
Pxg balls and some cow RC yellow balls and a nice new grit golf bag yep I did ask tell what family’s going to you must have either the uh biggest house on the planet or a very very full lockup Barry says is is that time so uh catch Monday
Show is that it’s that time so catch Monday show um yeah it’s that time um however it’s um it’s Wednesday now the reason why I didn’t do it Monday Monday was um oh I just got some yeah I just got to keep an eye so
Uh my phone has just g off and the reason I’m just trying to keep an eye on the world darts that he’s been playing at Alexander Palace in the UK and there is a um child playing I shouldn’t be a bit rude um Luke ller I think his name is and
He’s 16 and he’s in the final of the world’s darts Championship he has knocked out some very very good darts players and he me my dad is just in awe of watching him so that I’m just keeping an eye on what’s going on um it just popped up on the uh notifications it’s
Just so I can obviously converse with my dad that’s the whole idea of doing that um Min says everyone let’s push the like button that’s a great idea me you’ve got a point go on guys what do they say smash that like button smash
It I just a click will be suffice and it would be fine I don’t understand when people saying smash the like button go on Smash It smash it I tell no yeah just click it it’s fine thank you very much I appreciate it uh we we a
Wheat bicks not weat a bxs wheat bi thousand I love the look of those missa heads but they aren’t for me I’m a hacker and recently got 11 hybrids based on oh hang on a minute based in large part of your review do you see blades
Surviving long term yeah I hope they do cuz I’m going to be using them so they will blades will always be there because um there is a call for the market now the market is possibly reducing as time goes on but if you can imagine when
Mauno and and this is like the Darth nature of it the G their driver the G driver a blooming good driver but it’s made for like one % of the golfing World whilst they are still making a driver and putting all the R&D and the cost of
Making a driver when they’re just going to probably sell as many drivers to break even on the Blooming Thing they’re definitely going to be designing and doing BL I mean let’s face it I mean part from Aesthetics and stuff like that it’s not that difficult to
Design a blade on the basis of um we haven’t got to put anything in it just literally pour it well not pour it you stamp it pour into a different thing that’s cast so I I swore G just then so um Carl says not enough uh not
Old enough to vote Drive will get married so he’s death for a child just a um bloody good one um yeah he is he’s been playing Dart since he was 18 months and then wow yeah go says 16y old wow there’s a talent well done yeah and he’s got 21
Year old girlfriend as well apparently if you look if you Google Luke ller if you see him he’s got like a full-on beard at 16 he says he could um he was growing beard at 14 yeah anyway so um M Minds I expect Luke will
Get blown away in the final but I’d love to be wrong I really hope he wins I really hope he wins is it Humphrey or something I don’t really know I’ll be honest I was talking to my dad about it today cuz my dad loves it and obviously
Try make sure I converse with him about certain topics and stuff I just trying to keep the breast of what’s going on um I I’d love it if he won I mean what what a story with that he would then follow the whole idea of like Boris Becker at
18 wining Wimbledon or whatever it was um you’ve had other things in tennis uh in the ladies when they were really really young you’ve got like Max for stappen in F1 being looks very young when he won and it’s yeah 16 and he will be still 16 of
Course when he obviously goes on for x amount of months I know some people have started in the tournament as say a 17 year old and then’ gone to be 18 by the time they’d won it and stuff but no he will still be 16 if he wins um golf
Hadit he looks nearly 40 he yes he well I I spoke to the misses and I sort of said look this is Luke ller and and he’s 16 what no way he’s he does he does not look 16 it’s one of those ones where if
You look at me you go oh yeah that’s the darts player and until you say he’s 16 and like what can’t be yeah he is so good luck for Luke ler anyway on the golfing side of things right there way throat still oh YouTube drink so okay I’m going to give everyone
A cart blanch to just Lally put down what you what you want you put down there and I will um answer um what’s time so we’ve going just about an hour just keep an eye on time Etc now up to you I can always um for the guys that have been
Watching no there was a should we call it a technical issue we’ll call it out a fix or this and fix or that there was so much out there when it comes to the decision decision making and also the strategy side the shots gained the understanding of percentage play and
Stuff like that there’s nothing really out there why cuz cuz it’s boring just a general rule it’s boring and so to do it in a way um to make it a little bit more fun I’ve done it in the competition based idea and the winner wins a custom
Fit set of irons from either sub 70 or 11 golf that is the plan now of course I’m a little bit late doing it because of technical problems but we’re back at it now so I can either do the from St to Strokes now or I can
Do it at a different time I will as in say tomorrow or something I leave it up to you guys if you want it to do now or we can continue the chat about mauno so um square root of 7 7,392 wow um it’s going to be good 87 86 what is
That 7,000 what 3 92 Square < TK 86 come on well it wasn't 86 85.9 six I do that a lot um right Kyle that's the only one I'm doing uh Mark says hello Mark hi Jay have you seen the new uh Pro 241 Masters limited editions irons best looking Irons ever that is subjective and that's the great thing with Aesthetics we all like different things I'm not a great fan of um them it's just I I thought the um 221 blues that came out were nice but I didn't really like them that much the Uh mp20 the copper headed ones just pure copper heads no other finish just the copper were lovely and I got myself a set of them or head only I haven't put shafts in them they're just head only um they're I'm going to get I'm going to Try and get a uh bag a master's tour bag the the uh the green one obviously because I think it would look really cool um good on camera and stuff like that I think it would be really good um but yeah George is in the house hello George Lefty nine handicap playing Apex Circa 2013 with then new recoil shafts hoping 245 could be my next Iron is available in Lefty my tendency is to hit irons thin how with a new 245 play for a thin uh hitting sweeper um can I get away with saying showing something thing uh Bu yeah I can possibly get away with that so this is from my data set today now this is not doing performance because again performance I'm not going to show you the best and so this is no measure whatsoever against anything I'm just skirting the lines here people Um I'm just trying to make sure I get yeah so is this the one I want to look at yeah that's fine get rid of that one so I'm just going to flick over here there you go that's a date that's a piece of date I done today now I've done The 24 five I been cap capturing data for it at different swing speeds um how well from different misses and stuff like that so that is a standardized Miss 8 mil low is a standardized Miss on the face that is a thin I've also got one at 13 mm as low or 11 mm low I can't remember obviously double digits low let me just I want to sort I'll click off it there we go guys when we talk about misses that's a 245 yeah those dots depict where the middle of the strike Point of a ball will be relative to the club being on the ground the the ball being on the ground and the ball obviously having a curving uh surface so because of the curving surface and the curving with Loft you're always going to be hitting under the equator yeah so There is a a calculation I won't bore you with it that's why the dots are lower than what foresight say they should be done a video about that one which way there uh that way there you go and eight if you imagine 8 millimeters low from those dots are very Low on the face so you don't have to go low on the face much to get a thin excuse me there we go now if I go back to that Miss again that was a Miss 26° of Loft that's what I was generally speaking um delivering uh within very short amount 25 something degrees so yeah within reason uh faces 1 degree open 1.33 efficiency that's still going 29 yards in the air and 45° Cent angle from a Miss on the face 8 mil low that everything says obviously go lower that is blooming good at a club speed A Reduced Club speed of 81 mph hour um it's it is very very good and without sort of doing too much on it obviously because I can't I'm not allowed to these new mauno Pro irons that is a definite upgrade to a 225 especially for low strikes Right let's go back onto here um Mark says Martina Hingis won a Grand Slam at 16 that is going to be another version of exactly that goer it says actually debating on a set of Tacoma irons uh like my shiny stuff too which ones would You think about getting uh my mind I I have to go night everyone night night everyone I will um Robert I will need to speak to you anyway obviously because um well um Instagram we'll do that through Instagram Don says for S was 18 years 225 days when he won the Spanish GP in 2016 yes now that is just a race now say just a race that's one heck of an achievement of course it is but this Luke ller guy potentially might be winning the World Championship that is something completely different than just one race um Kyle ra Man Mark Dennis have you done A a video on grip size if not is it something you'd think about as this one of the weakest areas of custom fitting you can try 1 million shs but next to no grips yes because um grip is a very interesting issue um because it's not something that you can Literally just pop on pop off pop on pop off and test because of the uh well you can if you've got a uh like an airline and you can blow them off and put them back on again you can do that however there is no such thing as uh Logic when it comes to grips the old adage of if you have a grip too thin a grip you can over release it goes left or right and the golfer and if you have a too thick of grip you can lack of release and it can go right or if you All of these different things you can say with it's an utter bunch of rubbish because as soon as you put the human in it everything goes wonky and it just doesn't work out the way it needs to so if there was an actual like pattern of saying one thing leads to another leads To another then you can with grip it is so so individual that you would have to test and this is the thing when it comes to grip grip is the still the uh um the most underused part of custom fitting because you have to test with the Individual now I I would always say this guys if you can um test if you can do your custom fitting with your coach who knows about how you deliver and stuff like that then yes um but it is something that generally speaking you can't test it is a bit of a Pain and a lot of golfers go through a pattern and and a period of exploratory searching for exactly what they want feel wise and stuff like that cuz some people are affected by release patterns and some people are completely opposite to release patters it's just a mindfield croaky croaky excuse me Carl Said was playing some ctap at x130 oh Big Boy uh last week uh the weight really help played uh very well strike was excellent until the 15th when I started getting tired is there a similar lighter Shaft or visit the gym visit the gym car um the ctap 130 is a Goliath Under the uh DNA system if um you've got someone who's very very quick aggressive and just load the shaft something mental CTX is going to be on there always is it is a scaffold pole of a shaft um a very very good shaft love the shaft myself I do like the shaft Myself it's as stable as heck just you have to be a beast to play it uh well you know you don't it's just that you have to play you have to play at a certain level that you enables you to continue to play all the way through and not get tired And so um it's one of those ones where go down the gym but yeah uh Neil says weight of the grips does matter though it does because obviously it changes swing weight Etc but again that can be counteracted depending on who's setting up the golf CBS Etc so bigger grip with a higher Weight could impact um could impact the way it plays definitely will do um if you don't change if you just change the grip and do not change the uh swing weight Dynamics or counter the swing weight dynamics of the different grip then yeah it will definitely change how It plays the problem is humans react in so many different ways that and there is no pattern to the way they react all we can say is if you did something there would be a change but we don't know what that change will be because you can put That same change with 10 people and you'll get 10 different results because they all react a different way so you have to test with the individual and it will be something as DED as okay we've got a custom fit set golf clubs um I think I'm I'm doing really go system This or whatever it be can we just test if I would just put a new grip of a different this or a different weight or a different thickness whatever it be different construction um reduced taper um any different grip of of many different varieties to see what the difference Over a certain period of time is and if it's something that I want to migrate to um that or not or or revert back to you do it with one and you haven't got too much of a problem and you do it one grip At a time if you do two grips at a time of two different you you're reacting to two different things and it's like the classic thing if you're trying to find out you got all these switches light is off you close your eyes and and you flick three switches on and you open Your eyes and the light is on you go okay that's good so one of these three switches turns the light on but which one was it because we've switched one three not one at a time so it's that kind of classic thing um Adan says I'm much happier with A thicker grip MMC plus4 midsize now that is a big boy um I've got uh on my clubs I've got um plus fours they're tall velvet plus fours not I don't like the mcc's cuz I don't like the roughness of the top hand but yeah midsize and the Field for me is so much better Str than zx5 Z x5s are a blooming good set of irons go I went for a regular grip size to a midsize and being a godsend will never go back to regular again that's exactly what we're talking about it's the self-explanatory self exploration there We go can't get my worms out and the the fact that people need to do that you can have the best custom fit in the world but because you you can't test grip unless you you can blow the grips off and put UND do but it's going to take Forever to do that so you need unfortunately if you've got a grip issue and you'll trying to search for a certain different feel or certain different release pattern or something different rather than looking at a swing change okay if it's fairly minor then grip yes if it's major swing but you've Got that option but unfortunately there is one of those ones if you say well I want something that's going to help me do this we can say right let's let's treat you as stereotypical let's as like what the myth priv we'll do this with your grip not knowing in any way shap or Form it's going to work or not it could work the opposite way around um but that's the first thing to test test if you are reactive to a grip change U over a period of time not just on one or two or three hits over a PES of however M Long and map them objectively either you do it objectively um or you get someone else to objectively um map what you're doing measure what you're doing with the results and then um yeah you can make decision that way so Ted says Ted Ted Ted I said I tried msze Grips on one of my iron sets and it was not good more dispersion left and right front and rear so I had them re regripped with standard grips yeah I mean I we had this conversation Ted would me about those um and that's the thing you don't know um there is no such Thing and it is a myth to say that if you have grips like the smaller grips you can over release it it will go left for a right-handed golfer and then the classic the opposite way um it just won't you you can't you cannot say that and this Is my problem that I have with a lot of stuff that gets put out on the internet on on YouTube that people turn around and say do this and fix your this you don't tell you what if they are honestly putting that content out there because they honestly think that if People did what they're saying that it was absolutely fix every single person's this then they live in a dream world and at best that that's ignorance at worst they knew they know full well that what they're putting out there is not going to affect everybody the way they saying They're saying that it is will do and it's effectively a little bit um deceptive um right so Ted say shows it all it's all individual as you say J yeah and it is unfortunately and you have to go through that process of self-exploration before you work out Which one you are and how you react to certain things and then if you wenter a slightly thinner grip then it would may or may not have uh a different um but there's there's always going to be like a goldilock Zone and um mine is with a Plus4 I mean I've tested many different grips over time and I've moved around from big and small um uh Custom Grips where I've built tapes around underneath to sort of just I know mess around a little bit and see how it works over time so um oh no my car's just gone I Know only go to the gym to use the vending machine that's like that great joke in it what's your favorite machine uh at the gym the vending YouTube drink but yeah so so so so so so so Um 243 I'm looking forward to testing 243 because when it comes to 223 I can remember because it was in the um modus Pro 115x I think it was might been stiff or X I can't remember it's the only shaft in my entire life which I have had an Adverse reaction to and unfortunately because I didn't have time to um sort my head out the Embargo obviously date come before I had managed to sort my problems out with that shaft um since no problem whatsoever and I just swing the um 223 is no different to anything else it was Just don't know what it could have literally just been a case of um because of pressure trying to get content made Etc with time constraints Etc that you have a bad day U because everyone has a bad day I have times sometimes where I'm ready to make content and I can't hit a Barn door it's that it's not that bad but you know you you have days where you think like today is not a productive time for me to film I'm going to be spending so much time filming something um the I'm will just edit today and then wake up tomorrow tomorrow will be a Different day and it is and there's no different we all play golf like that we why do we sometimes play golf and it just feels so easy well relatively easy and then other days you can absolutely have a mare and there's no logic whatsoever you haven't changed a swing Halfway through the night um it's just what it is but no the the 243 um I'm looking to looking forward to hitting this one um this has got obviously quite a bit of change to it yes it does look like a 225 um 225 uh mp25 where is That it's that thing when you move something you really wish you hadn't moved it where have I moved that to um that's not it that's see this what happens when you're moving stuff around I had the mp25 today where is it hello mp25 that's going to irritate me if I've Um if I can't find that now cuz it is around here somewhere poo sticks hate it when I can't find something it's around here anyway um but it does look very very similar to an mp25 mp25 obviously had bore on in it and this one has not got bore on uh this Has got copper underlay and it is also forged crale 4120 or or yeah something like that so it is different to the mp25 anyway but it has got micr slot and um mp25 excuse me wiy pops um had certain parts of technology so it's not the same As the mp25 before people turn around and save Mauna have just reinvented the mp25 they haven't they are a similar design but again guys when it comes to designs of golf clubs let's be honest there's only so amount of time that you can make a golf club or do something different and It looks different and so there will always there's going to be times in every manufacturer's um change of models that something is going to have a similar look to something that was possibly done 30 years ago or 15 years ago or never it will be um when you look under the hood of What's inside the 243 compared the mp25 was a completely completely different beast and if you look at years ago when it comes to mp25 Etc um really good out the middle and I would say there's not going to be much difference really between the mp25 and the new 243 out the Middle will there be a benefit of a 243 will it be faster off the face LOF for loft absolutely will do it will only be a um one and a half maybe 2 milph ball speed Loft for loft benefit on the 243 so not a lot What the big difference will be is when you start whacking a say an mp25 all over the face as compared to a 24 3 all over the face the difference that you're going to get in retention of ball speed the benefit of a 243 over an mp25 isn't I say I was going to say immeasurable it's not immeasurable of course you can measure it but effectively it's going to be yeah there's the difference more that you'll find Carl says oh no I only go to the gym use the vending not already um Got a run Jay be safe and well have a something great 2024 time for more shopping well no it's nice to have you along and thank you very much for being a member uh TZ says the similar designs May partly due and Nostalgia I love an early design yeah too right and no Different if you go that looks like an mp25 obviously completely different to an mp25 but looks like an mp25 if you go down to a 24 one well now that looks like an MP5 which was around at the same time as an mp25 within reason and arguably the MP5 was the nicest iron Mauno have ever made for me for what I like the MP5 was possibly the best ever um very very just lovely MP4 uh but MP5 is a bit stubbier and look it looks just a yeah nice package but that is um so that's what I'm going to do I will Run the compare video which will go out on the Monday 2 p.m. Monday the 8: 2 p.m. as long as I can get it done um and I will be doing a comparison as such an overview preview of 241 I will go through what it looks like what's inside It not much won't take long give it a few hits job done and then I'll go 243 here you go this is the new 243 this is what I changed the from the 223 to 243 but it's obviously a not fullon uh comparison video it will literally just Be look there he goes give it a hit a few times that's how how it looks and feels and then when it comes to the 245 I will do the exact same thing afterwards I'll just this is what it looks like this how it hits this how it Feels and this is what kind of golfer it's going to be for won't be doing any kind of forgiveness testing on that comparison as such review that preview as such for all of those that's going to be for the full on reviews the singular Reviews of 241 243 245 and I do the uh fullon because if I did full on on that the video would be forever and so that can be seen afterwards but I'll do that one first on the Monday Monday I'll then do 245 on the Tuesday I release the 243 On the Wednesday and the 241 on the Thursday so we'll have a week of mauno and then when hopefully my media samples arrive whenever that will be I'll have the Fly High to do um that will be released already and of course whether people will do it or Not I don't know and then I'll also do the comparison cuz I have my media set and I can then compare them with 57 and9 579 57 9 whatever between obviously 245 and 225 2 43 243 you know 223 and 4 five25 21 41 singular individual and I'll do Comparative Mish hits and stuff like that that's the whole idea um but I can do four videos with the fitting heads again that is the whole idea um I'm going to ask do I no point so um anyone else want to say anything else before I decide to um Call it a day uh what I will do guys I will do a live stream possibly tomorrow Cody's back hello going back another generation was the mp20 hmbb much different to the pro 225 in terms of saving money on a prior generation 225 when these drop okay hmb 225 there Was a small increment um I wouldn't have bothered buying a 225 if you already had an mp20 hmb okay um if you've got a hmbb and you're going to think about 245 there might be a good enough reason to test for the upgrade um however if you're looking Obviously from a point of view of saving money you're not going to be spending the money um that you're going to need to spend on two four fs and I won't lie Guys these are not cheap I am honest again and these have to be a Justified uh Expenditure no golf clubs are getting cheaper so uh if you're going to have to think about buying golf clubs in the next couple of years or whatever they are not getting cheaper they won't and so you wait two years and they're going to be the next ones the two six ones or Whatever it will be will beat and possibly quite some margin CU all manufacturers are doing the exact same things everyone is pushing cost of things up and up and up so yeah um that's the only justification but from your point of view if you've got a set of um Hmbs um and you're looking at possibly upgrading to save some and obviously saveing money because the two four FS will come out the 225s that are going to be around will be less which they will be um not a great deal less but there will be um I wouldn't bother we're Talking about an incremental difference in the 225 over the hmbb it's not a huge amount yeah there was difference yes there is there is a bigger difference between the hmb in the 245 and that is definitely worth a test but you're talking about a completely different Cost now in 2 years time when your hmbs are even older and the 245 is now being replaced by 265 or whatever they're going to be called then I would definitely say yeah they would be worthwhile upgrading uh Cody says thank you sir trying to save my wallet give the 10 Plus hand sets I already have a need to sell well yeah in that case if you can sell those 10 plus secondhand sets and your hmbs to pay for a brand new set of uh 245s then I would say that that is a point of doing and it would be a good Idea one thing I would like to say before I go would be that well two things actually one um if you want to if you're aren a subscriber already again you can watch this if you're a subscriber or you're just freely uh cycling through YouTube if you like what You see byom get down there hit the Subscribe button and also the Bell icon as well obviously I've got the mauno pro lines I've got Callaway I've still got to do that might that'll be late that won't be on the same embargo day but I've obviously been Busy uh ping I've got the 10K and the blueprint s uh so the Ping 10K Max driver and the the blueprint s videos to release very very soon I've got the Cobra dark speed irons and the dark speed driver and stuff which has still got to come I've got to sort that out But that's the dark speed isons are ready to go and they'll be uploaded on embargo day so there's still loads and loads of stuff that's going to be coming um on the channel uh with and then normal Compares and everything else going to be coming because it's crazy Time when it comes to releases and so make sure you're down there subscribe Etc and get the Bell icon on so you're notified whenever I release one and also for the um from sta stroke series guys I will do a live stream tomorrow then I'll do one tomorrow Afternoon um I trying to obviously get as much done filming wise as I can do for this video because I'm I'm under time constraints now to obviously get all of these done I've got to get four videos done ready um so yeah it's going To be a bit of stress uh time but the plan will be to get a um quick live stream tomorrow afternoon about 3:00 or so maybe a bit early maybe a bit later um to do the results of I've got more already I could do them now but if not It's already done an hour and a half already so I won't do it today I'll do it tomorrow um we got the stats of Strokes to do uh tomorrow and then I'll set a question probably the day after and then again give you three days or so Now I did over Christmas I did post something before Christmas said look you guys have got until this sort of time after this time I will not be taking any extra um answers however it is Christmas and it's a season of Goodwill Etc and so there were people that replied put their Uh answer to the question in after the uh deadline I have included them no I will not add in anym so please don't answer the previous question with any other because I've already done all the work to get all the uh leader boards I have got the leader board already and I Could show it but I'm not going to because I'll do that in the answer uh I will say the ice tray was one of the very late uh arrivals when it comes to his answer and if he hadn't have done he would have definitely had his top spot taken off And this is where it is when it comes to the stats to Strokes competition to win yourself a custom fit set of irons from 11 uh gol 4 sub 70 that you got to make sure that you stay tuned and answer every single one because you won't have To score really well in every single one you just have to be more cons you have to be consistent all the way through there are people that have got five points as in top marks in two rounds and then they've missed two other rounds and they're just going down down the Leaderboard they've scored top marks in everything that they yeah so that's the whole idea so just keep on um keep on looking out for the updates Etc but I should be going live tomorrow afternoon anyway so if you want to get involved in that one by all means I will be doing The answers video to that so be a bit of fun right guys um I don't see any other questions popping on there so unless you have anything at the end um by all means go on pop it on there very very quickly Before We Say Goodbye last Call last call for questions I'm quite happy to um I'll give you sort of like two well a minute or so to rapidly type and I'll quite happily um give you an answer I did like earlier on though I did like the fact that um was it Kyle Tried to get me with what was the uh square root of 7,000 392 orever and uh I'm going to look at that on replay because I can't believe I basically nailed it in the head what a guess okay so Neils you're still on I just want to ask a very very quick Question um everyone else ignore it's a bit of a techy one so Neils you can sort of reply to this one it's just quicker for me to say it than it is for email it um obviously the fact that I'm thinking about going uh multiple 10 gig uh cards and machines Obviously got 10 gig card in this one and also going to have a 10 gig in the new server my new storage attached server kind of idea if I'm going to go 10 gig switch though because a lot of 10 gig switches are RJ45 socket not SPF Plus you can go get the transceivers from SPF plus to RJ45 for the cable but then obviously we're talking about those transceivers are quite expensive to do every single one um moving it from RJ45 cuz obiously I've got cables Etc I mean I have to yeah um would it be easier Because RJ45 CA is quite easy and cheap to get and obviously you've got the uh switches that are 10 gig with rj45s would it be easier and cheaper to just buy a couple of uh 10 gig Nicks so dump the one that I've already got and the One that I've bought me know obviously not really that expensive but dump them for RJ45 10 gig NX instead they're slightly more expensive but obviously it's then RJ45 to RJ45 click click click click click no problem um Cody says quick followup on 765 versus mp20 okay yeah so dump the Nyx with I've Got like the solar flare SNF 7120 which is uh SPF um plus um and then go for something with yeah okay cool um quick follow-up on 765 which is quite an old one now wish versus mp20 hmb given same shaft and lofs which would you say our friend here to Play wow that would be an interesting one because Um I I couldn't honestly say because I can't remember enough of the 765 I've used the 765 and I've mapped the HM be quite well and I could tell you but I can't I can't say what the hate the uh 765 because I haven't mapped it I've Used it hit it quite a few times but I never mapped it like I did the hmb so I cannot say without guessing I can guess um but I I don't want to do that um struggling to hop on the hollow body wagon this is the problem now the I will Say this already that the 245 I I can feel that it's Hollow it does feel to me slightly more Hollow than 225 I need to hit 225 with it and 225 225 245 and see if it's just me um but you go to 241 W 2 four five there is a distinct Difference whether that people really care about or not but but then it's like whole idea review so you can tell what the differences are or not so if I was what would I do I understand your point I mean if I was going to go 241 and then move into something I would Struggle to go 245 because there was two much of an acoustic jump um would the project xar make them feel different pal no not really I mean there you're talking resonance from the head the resonance from the Head is by far the biggest you do get shock from the Shar But you mainly get shock from the shaft from a very very offc center hit that's the time so like like thin that is the that's wonderful when you get one of those you get like a properly good and then obviously you hit high in the face you can have the ground interaction Which is going to be in interfering with any kind of feel um hit toe or heel you get twist uh around the shaft axis but again you're talking that the main thing is low on the face you get the fuzzy fingers Etc um that it's more so the the acoustic frequency Of the head that is the most important thing the acoustic frequency of the head for feel and so the shaft can make a small difference um especially graphite you can have a graphite which has the effect of dampening definitely steel doesn't necessarily dampen so it doesn't really matter what kind of Steel you Have on there there'll be nuances difference but it'll be so nuanced your ear won't really be picking much up whatsoever it's all down to the head to for the shaft to make any perceivable difference you have to go graphite which the thing is if you're sensitive to Shaft um Ben profile the fact that you're using something like graphite and you're nowhere near needing graphite that will be the biggest denominator in while you feel something rather than obviously the vibration of the frequency of the head if that makes sense so also Have a set of MP fires but they but they may be out of my playing uh capability they may be out of my playing capability um that depends I would honestly tell you what Cody if you can go take your 76 fs and obviously Loft adjusted and stuff Like this is a little bit difficult but you have to sort of like okay I'm going to hit a seven iron or I'm an eight iron of one or the other whatever it be and see how you're going to do it it might be closer to doing it 7 seven or 8 and Seven or something like that but and then map them map what the differences are if you can as you get on on quad you can see the differences in uh your strik obviously quad can read strike to the millimeter or 0. one of a millimeter but Yeah um then you'll be able to do it properly rather than physically guessing but Carl says I have some TTS with vsss but a bit of foam in the god in the yeah in the shaft uh I couldn't tell any difference over the nonv again this is The this is the thing I mean we are talking very much so the Acoustics that you get is very much so from the residance on the head now the these 241s resonate differently to the bnk to the 245 you cannot help that is a hollow body now you can put uh Harmonic impact technology inside the head to try and control its resonance yes you can but it will always reson resonate yeah it will always resonate differently to the solid head now obviously this is not um 1025e as well this is 4135 crale and so again there's Going to be a difference because it's a different metal you can grain flow Forge it this is grain flow Forge all the way from the huzzle all the way to the end that whole bit there is grain flow forg the main body of this is grain flow Forged yes you're going to be putting on certain ones you're going to put like a um a 431 stainless steel plate or is it 43 I can't remember but it's I think it's 43 stainless steel plate on the back s of the like the 99 and pitching Wedge Etc but effectively the whole bit which is important which is to huzzle all the way down into the toe that is all forged grain flow forged still you have the resonance and you can go you can tell the difference between hang on how did I do it beforehand Yeah did that come through I will do one more time uh KL says and it is can't help it it is a hollow button so when you're hitting something it comes through as a higher pitch what comes through as harsher comes through as crisper comes through As whatever word you want to use as subjective I a feel it's very very difficult but um KL says so is the nine and pitching where is not Hollow then I tell you what uh right should I tell you I tell you right 2 to8 laser welded grainflow Forge 4135 crale face and neck for 40 431 stain is still back so the even in the 79 you've got a grain flow forged body yeah um and face in the chomo 4135 so face and neck everything yeah then there's a 43 on stainless steel back the whole back is Then stainless steel um plate uh you got 47 G of tungsten an eight IR has no tungsten for a smoother transition the nine to gap wedge is laser welded partial Holly bodied and I will um put this on the screen it'll probably be allowed I may or may not I can't Remember but we'll we'll do this so you can very very quickly see so the 2 to eight iron is like that so you can see you've got that but then on the eight iron has no tungsten and then the nine to pitch and wedge is made like that that is still Hollow bodied But it's partial Hol construction yeah the reason why they do the partial Holo construction see you don't have a huge feel and performance difference through the whole thing they do it for absolute um seamlessness when it comes to um how the technology works and obviously how you Distance is work etc right very quickly we have um Cody saying yes sounds very have we got any more have we got any more so no we've done everything that's good excuse me YouTube wi pops right so unless anyone else has got anything to say that my little rundown about the new 243 245 241 so guys make sure you get on the um homepage make sure you subscribe so you and then also get the Bell on as well notification Bell so you know when these are coming along and also for anyone who is still on and isn't a member who wants To become a member so you are part of the live streams where we go into more detail about certain things like this um okay the open all access one guys you have to wait every month the first Monday as such normally of every month To do and it will be for the um members out there it'll be back to next Monday again the Monday night Clubhouse and or say the Monday Clubhouse it's Monday night here but again it's not Monday night when you're in America but the Monday Clubhouse we can all um get Together and we will chat about more stuff um again I suppose that will be embargo uh day for the mauno and so we we'll be chatting more and more about the results you're going to get from the Days release and of course very very soon there will be the pings and then The cobras and stuff like that so right guys thank you very very much for watching appreciate as always make sure you subscribe and like the video If You Can CU always good for YouTube algorithm and all that lot I like it as well and so all being equal um Ted says I'm no Longer convinced graphite shafts are softer than steel USD mamia tsp PX darts Mishu mmts feel a bit harsher than the PX lzs and nipon 12s in my opinion the lzs and 120s are a very unique shaft they've got a very very weak second third from the back downwards um Ben Profile very very weak in the um second third part or one third up from the um from the tip it does it does affect feel and it does affect launch and it does affect the sound and all that lot and works very much so like a great transitional Golf Club into graphite and the interesting thing is of the weight class that they are they're 115 120 or whatever they are I think they 115 I think it is for the uh lzs and they're great so I the problem with with shafts is that you can say they're this and say they're That but you put it in a human's hands and everything completely changes and so you can always say there's this classic with the myths of golf and there are billions of the blooming things which are mostly wrong um and I can say them and say them and say them but the Problem is if people are indoctrinated to believe a certain thing it takes a while for people to want to be open to the fact that what they' have been told necessarily isn't true um because again if people made their buy decisions based on certain things people do not want to Be have their eyes open to the fact they've been sold a dud or if there's a reason why they can't do this or do that it's actually because of this because I've been sold something different that's the whole idea of what I do anyway so right guys uh it's blend Pleasure as always thank you very much for everyone for joining in um I will yeah I'll run this as the normal so when it comes to turning this off I won't worry about editing and stuff like that I'll just post a copy of this to Run through on the uh video as well on the normal Channel as well so guys it's been wonderful it's been a pleasure as always for the members I will see you next next Monday and for the non-members the ones in Gray if you do if you want Obviously be a member pop on the homepage there's a join button click on there there's a list of different things you can have a look at your latest guys Adrian says um at your will you can do that if you want to and if not we'll see You next what is it the first Monday of every month and for the other guys the members we'll see you next Monday for another Monday Clubhouse so enjoy it's been a pleasure thanks very much for all your questions and we'll see you all soon
5 Comments
Do you think there is more forgiveness in the 245 and could it be easier to transition from jpx into pro with this model?
On a day when I'm really on with the irons and approach play and hitting a lot of greens, I used to say "throwing darts."
After watching some video of Luke Littler…I don't think I'm going to say that anymore. 😂
Fantastic. I can't wait for the 243 vs 923 Tour comparison! 🤙🏽😎
0:40 – Pretty sure that Mizuno fitting sets change paint colour for different head characteristics
Grip: I've got MCC+4 Standard, +2 layers of tape. Going down to 0, I noticed both more bad "flips", as well as increased tiredness in my hands. +1, a bit less solid on flat out shots. Midsize +0 – too big, didn't feel in control. And the +4 series is nearer standard weight than many layers of tape. Esp when you take the changed taper into account