Bears fans, join Hoge & Jahns as they bring their initial reaction to the final whistle of the 2023 season, as the Bears fall again to the Packers.
It’s h what’s up welcome in our last postgame show of the season and a familiar one that we’ve done now 10 times in a row when these guys play each other Bears Packers another win for the Packer I believe I have covered 20 plus Packers wins or bears losses put it that way
Since I’ve taken over this beat wait someone texted me this earlier um since 1992 the Packers are 50 and 15 against the Bears there was a point I want to say it was about five six years ago where the Packers were finally catching the Bears in their all-time record and now they’ve
Just run away with it like that was a storyline for a couple weeks and with Brett far followed by Aaron Rogers and now apparently Jordan love they’ve run away with it 50 and 15 I’m telling you that’s unbeliev like that in the NFL holy moly that’s um that’s
Depressing is what that is wow okay well this is 10 in a row Matt laflor is now 10 and0 against the Chicago Bears since he became Packers head coach um which 10 and0 yeah he’s 10 and0 he won all like a coach who was 10 and0 against
The Bears yeah Matt eberl is now two and 10 against the NFC North yeah not good does that do anything for you when I say that not really not as much as I thought it would say that again try again two and 10 against the NFC North no I guess
It doesn’t I still think he’s coming back I’m not going to be see here’s why here’s why well I agree it’s coming back but I still think that that should matter not only just on the surface of yeah you shouldn’t be too int against your own division because you’re saying
Okay last year was a wash blah blah blah except for the fact that they blew that game against the Lions last year at home yeah and you’re telling me they couldn’t win a single division game last year like could get one like one in five and that should have been the one
And they blew it then they blew another one against the Lions this year they should have gone two- 0 against both the Vikings and lions this year and they didn’t and you tell me you can’t get one win out of four against the Packers like ow and for against the Packers matters
You’re talking about like one of those ugly like super ugly games where they they win by a field goal and nobody plays well on something like that like I I get so I guess the point I’m making is even with the understanding that last year was a total like sort of wash year
With the expectations I still don’t think Owen six against the north was defensible especially in how they lost that one Lions game and then I think even everything the context of this year in which really they probably should have gone four- two with how they played
In those six games with the two losses being against Green Bay because those were the only two games they weren’t really that competitive everything you’re saying right now kind of reminds me of the conversation we just had with Josh Lucas where if you compare the rosters the Bears look better that they
Might be the actually the better team by the end of it oh there’s the thumbs up already see thumbs up dude it’s it’s the way I’m holding the microphone I I figured it out if you’re listening you didn’t see the thumbs up thumb it’s the thumb I might hold it like this here
Comes the thumb yeah maybe not there it is there it oh there it is okay I got um do you want to talk big picture already and make our predictions or do you want to break down this game uh maybe we should start with an an apology or to
The quarterback podcast we admit that we’re wrong see we did that already on Thursday though yeah but I just covered it Live Like Jordan love was good yeah he’s good it sucks but he’s good good like there was one throw in I what is it late third quarter they going to this
End zone where he I’m just shaking my head like like okay I can’t believe this is happening again like Jordan love might be legitimately good who was in the fourth quarter um especially the third down play that that solidified the win for him where he scrambles he’s got
Pressure on his heels gets the pass off to a s end first down basically the game over it was good he’s good yeah I think now the fear has to be is how good is he you know because all we need is him if they go to Dallas next week and win
That game and he plays great now it’s well they just did it again they got the third straight amazing quarterback now I think it’s gonna take more than that but look the reality that everybody has to face in including the you know biggest Justin field supporters objectively without a doubt wouldn’t love outplay
Justin fields in both of those games this year when they faced each other and that was just not supposed those were not the expectations that we all had no matter who you were probably even in fact I remember doing Packers radio going into week one and even they were
Admitting Justin Fields was better than Jordan love his that’s objectively not the case now at the end of the 2023 season his numbers this season there’s the thumbs up again let me move my thumb Le yeah I guess this blue light K wants me to cover up what a mess you
Are um his numbers this season Adam hog are better than any quarterback in Bears history like that in in itself is amazing amaz his first full year as a starter would have broken all the franchise records of all the various quarterbacks whoever played for the Chicago Bears like that is amazing that
In itself is is also depressing but it’s the hard reality of the two franchises wow that’s I mean it’s really incredible that Kevin fishbane has a not so fun fact in his column that Jordan love did something today against the Bears that Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers never did
Against the Bears I’m not gonna give it away but it’s a stat in his column so we have to go read the athletic theathletic.com Hogan John yes yes if you want to make yourself sick go see it if you you’re a glutton for punishment
Go see it it it is not good it’s kind of depressing when you consider how many quarterbacks that we’ve covered in the past 10 years but it’s the hard truth all right well all that aside I want to get to some of the reaction that you got at
Lambo you’re obviously there I’m back at the Cho studios in Chicago um let’s start with I want to start with Justin fields and what he said because he had a message for Bears fan F on his way out I want you to kind of paraphrase what he said and then give me your
Action for maybe what you think he meant by it or what he’s expecting well he said goodbye essentially including to us the media I don’t expect him to talk to us tomorrow during open locker room maybe he does a couple interviews this week but it was his goodbye again I feel
Like he’s he’s shared these sentiments before he’s shared these feelings before in various interviews where where there’s some finality some conclusion to them and he said goodbye this time it was to the media you know he made a joke about how tough we were and whatnot you
Know it’s the Chicago media but he thanked us and he said goodbye that’s how that’s literally what I said when his press conference concluded I’m like well that was a goodbye and part of me feels like there should be more to this story like this isn’t over yet maybe the evaluation
Process is really just beginning you know Caleb Williams Drake May Justin Fields what do you too like those conversations are just going to get going Full Throttle right now at house Hall but that was my takeaway in that room 10 feet away from justtin fields that was a good
Buy yeah and my reaction is kind of what you just said I don’t think this evaluation should be done because I think the evaluation has to include the trade compensation column a column B column c what does it look like with all the trade compensation included and
So we don’t know all that now and the evaluation on these rookie quarterbacks are not you know they shouldn’t be complete at this point now are you leaning One Way possibly but all that being said Justin Fields doesn’t say those things doesn’t give kind of that goodbye
Message at Lambo field today if he feels like he’s coming back um or if he feels confident that he is is coming back so at a minimum he is feeling some doubt over his future with the Chicago Bears so all that confirms is there’s not some internal message that’s been
Given that says you know that in his mind despite all the outside talk John’s that you know he feels comfortable that he’s coming back all his teammates supports all these things we’ve we’ve heard it just kind of confirms that that doesn’t necessarily move the needle here that Justin Fields himself is as unsure
As we are as the fans are about what’s going to happen here uh oh I think we now because of what happened there we go well I heard you for a second there now he did kind of reference last year a bit where the similar situation came about but I I I think
It’s it’s so different now because we expected him to return for his third season like we expected eberl and gety to be back like now there’s so many unknowns so many big you know picture questions that need to be played out and and answered at Hal hall now so the the
Uncertainty has increased last year there wasn’t much for for Justin Fields because he was kept in the loop by Ryan PS this time I don’t I don’t think he’s going to be fair or not you know the the numbers say no like you have to you know look
Ahead in a sense and I get that there could be like I there are real reasons to keep him but I just think if you’re Ryan plls like this year your conversations with Justin fields are gonna be a bit different he’s not going to be kept in the loop about trading the
First pick right he can’t like maybe he’s shown film with Cale Williams but I don’t think they’re going that that route but um yeah it was an interesting press conference with Justin Fields that’s for sure all right how about mat e refl what did he sound like did he
Sound like a guy giving away goodbye messages or hello 2024 he is well it is 2024 he he sounds like a guy who’s ringing in the new year I’m just kidding but but he has sounded like a CO happy New Year Bears fans I’m back I’m back
Baby he has sounded like a coach for the past several several weeks several weeks who is returning like he’s coming back for his third season like you you hear it in the uses and the Weis and every time he mentions the future and building upon something and it’s been like this
For the past couple weeks now where even his body language is different his mannerisms are different like this his voice inflection is different that’s the the sense I get from him and we still got it despite the loss of the Packers tonight you sensed the future it was in
His answers it it was we us about the future you know all of that was on this play here in Lambo field like he talked about the future he sounds like a coach who’s coming back man also Ryan poll’s every interview he does his weekly appearances he talks
About everything that Mato has done well this year and how he’s you know basically fixed everything that was wrong earlier in the year got them through adversity there was a report from Tracy wolson during the broadcast today um uh on Kevin Warren’s thoughts and he’s talking about how dick for meal
It took till year three when he was with the Rams um that was the greatest show on Turf year yeah um I don’t think we’re getting that but yeah I don’t think the greatest show on turf’s coming next year even if I mean maybe eventually yeah
So I would yeah I would say slow the roll on all all that is if all those things are being said and after the end of this they fire him that would be a hell of a 180 yeah and yeah and they would have to quite frankly answer questions about
Well then why’ you say all these nice things that you seemingly believed if you were just GNA turn around and fire the guy see the only reason I think they could do that is if they’re introducing Jim Harbaugh four days later fresh off a National Championship went over Washington like okay that makes
Sense yeah no need to explain yourself any further we all get it but if it’s not that I don’t think you do it see the problem with that though and this has come up a few times like back Channel conversations the you know college football the Cubs secretly getting Craig
Council behind the scenes and kicking David Ross out you can’t do that in the NFL with putting up your own sign in the Ohio State sideline for them to steal and interpret as a message to J Harbaugh that would be awesome we need you love KW what’s that guy’s name
Connor whatever stallion yeah he was at the Rose Bowl by the way maybe he’s in the crowd putting up a sign that’s like come come get me Kevin Warren yeah so Kevin Warren has to go game day and put up his own sign where it’s just like a bear’s head question mark
Please something like that you know send them message you know we’re kidding around about this but uh like to to me the most interesting comments today came from from DJ Moore like I was in that media scrum with him John real quick before we get to
That can I can I just finish what I was saying though it’s just hard to do all that back Channel stuff with the Rooney Rule you know what I mean like you can’t just keep things status quo till Friday and then all a sudden Friday oh boo
We’re we’re hiring Jim hardbut you can’t do that without going through the Rooney Rule requirements so you would have to fire a flu and there would have to be a gap before you actually introduced Jim Harbaugh and you’d have to make sure in all that you don’t get in danger of any
Tampering that you went around the Rooney Rule it’s very complicated you just can’t do in the NFL what the Cubs did with correct council is my point but you should try I’m kidding I’m kidding you know I I get 100% what you’re saying but yes like
I at this point in time like you always come up with your own like list of head coaching candidates and Jim Harbaugh stands out like he stands out so much at this time like of course there’s some young offensive Minds like Ben Johnson you know is going to be like the the hottest
Name out there and I get it right um but Jim Harbaugh’s work like it speaks for itself it’s like a no-brainer decision if you’re the Raiders Chargers or if the bears go in that direction um I know I’m kind of making light of the situ situation right now but I mean that’s
Just the way I see it it’s Jim Harbaugh and everybody else yeah I agree all right now you’re right DJ Moore had some interesting things to say you were there uh tell us about what happened it was um it was a conversation about the offense and at first it sounded like DJ Moore
Doesn’t agree with the identity like he wants it to be a more explosive offense he wants to know why there haven’t been more explosive plays he wants to know why they’re this run first team right he wants to know what type of off offense
They want to be he goes go look at the film you know when we won our games we were more explosive did we miss explosive opportunities in other games and then he he was asked specifically about the play calling of Liu getsi and his answers his first three words
Were I think it’s fine first few words I should say where I think it’s fine it’s fine and that like just in terms of like if you’re G to compare votes of confidence like jquan brisker said like yes M Ru should come back I want him to come back that
Sounded so different than What DJ Moore said earlier about luk yatsi and I’m sure everyone who was in that’s grum their eyebrows were ra raised and and you know that’s going to go viral for what he said and and it should it’s the first public display of criticism from a player right
At least that’s how I took it where this star player who set career highs in touchdowns and receiving yards is not happy with the play calling they got this season even though he produced at such a high level like that is something that Matt eberl that Ryan P
Will want to hear in their exit interviews with him tomorrow at how Hall absolutely um probably in stronger words well and and when you say that do you think they want they’re going to ask him to explain his comments or ask him to do so
In a way where wait we want the truth be brutally honest yeah well or they got to be upset that he made those comments no no if there’s one thing I’ve learned about m is he he wants brutal honesty he’s taken a lot of feedback from his players this year especially on defense
You talk to them about it they love him for it so he would expect that from DJ Moore this is DJ Moore’s first time going through this for mie brl so to hear that I think would be of of great benefit for mat who may have to make
Some decisions about his offensive play caller and his quarterback well and at minimum it was it was him declining an opportunity to go to bat for Luke gy you know beyond that it was actual criticism of Luke gatsy and you made the point of comparing it to some of the things the
Defensive players have said about flues where they flat out said we want them back how about comparing it to What DJ Moore said about his quarterback just a few weeks ago saying that he’s better than the two guys coming out of college not that he’s watched the film on him
But you know that was a very decisive going to bat for Justin fields and compare that to what that answer was to today which I believe it was pots you asked the question do you think you need a different different offensive coordinator which was you know I’m paraphrasing the question but that’s
Essentially what it was and it’s two very different answers and it’s completely fair for everybody to point that out and by the way it’s completely fair to DJ Moore to say to what he had to say if he really believes that because he’s locked in here and he
Wants to score more points and he’s in a position to be one of those guys those veterans in the locker room to have an opinion on all this so I agree that that was a huge Story coming out of that locker room uh tonight and something
That will be talked about and should be talked about quite frankly all week until a move is made or not made did you watch the Texans beat the Colts last night and the throws that CJ Stroud you know was was making in it in it with with an offense that isn’t
Exactly loaded with pro bowlers and superstars yep it’s very impressive it’s something to think about it really is it’s something for Ryan poles um Matt Eber Flo I don’t know if luk getsy is goingon to be involved but Kevin Warren’s want to hear from it like there there’s so much involved in that
Conversation there really is I mean the quarterback position drives change if it’s not working things change for franchises yeah um and you know you got to be careful with it because look I had CJ Stroud as my number one quarterback last year over Bryce young but I did not have him over
Justin Fields you know I was still saying I I would not you know give up on Justin fields for CJ Stroud just because that happened doesn’t mean that you make the same mistake or you got to make sure that that doesn’t leave to a mistake this year because there’s no guarantee that Caleb
Williams does what C CJ stra did this year however if your evaluation of Caleb Williams says he’s as good as CJ strad or better now with the evidence you have from Justin Fields third season that’s really hard to pass on if I’m looking at it objectively with a general manager who
Did not draft Justin Fields who can reset the quarterback I didn’t that the whole quarterback clock thing last year didn’t make sense to me because Justin Fields was only coming out of year two year three that’s a that’s that’s a whole another year and it’s a whole another year of evidence and you’re
You’re closer to having to pay Justin so it makes way more sense this year than it made sense to me last year and now you have this example in CJ stra that’s staring you in the face and again if you think Caleb Williams is as good as CJ
Stra or better I don’t know how you turn that down I just really I don’t know how you do I think a lot of recent history suggests that rookie quarterbacks like when they hit they hit like right away in their first year CJ strad Justin Herbert where they hit within their first three
Seasons right and when I say hit I mean like their careers reach another level where you saw Jaylen Herz where you saw Josh Allen Joe his second season they take these steps within their first three seasons when their situations aren’t exactly ideal of course teams are
Going to build around them and AD around them um they hit um I understand that maybe the argument here is that Justin Fields like his third season with Matt EO like it still matters it’s not exactly like he was dealt a winning hand in his first season with Matt naggie and
Ryan Pace basically heading out the door so like I understand that that argument to me like if the Bears are going to trade that first pick and build around the quarterback with all this amazing draft Capital Ryan poles still better give himself like the numbers say the
Hard data says give yourself an Exit Plan just in case it doesn’t work out for Justin Fields like if you’re building around Justin Fields you’re automatically building around that next quarterback so whether you take a quarterback say day because of all your maneuvering and you bring him into the
Mix or you take an extra 2025 pick in the first round and that’s when you make your move I just think if you’re Ryan poles it’ll be M practice if you don’t give yourself another pivot plan if you move off that pick but John isn’t that
What he did last year yeah right like this this literally is the exit plan like we’ve gotten here you know what I mean like it was if you don’t have your answer with Justin Fields by year three that is your answer and Caleb Williams not only did you plan for this Exit Plan
It the Stars aligned perfectly that you ended up with a number one pick which was not a guarantee so again it’s just like maybe we’ll all be wrong about this but the logic and how this all lines up to me and I’m not talking about my
Opinion on it I’m talking about how NFL general managers would look at this and set this up it just seems like it’s staring everybody in the face right there which is probably why in my opinion Justin field said his goodbye message tonight in the manner that he
Did it now before we get out of here we are going to make our predictions on fields gsy and Flo similar to how we did two years ago with pace and naggie when we both predicted that they’d be out um without for sure knowing that but before we get there I
Still feel like the elephant in the room the wild card in all this that has to be be discussed is Kevin war and I think it has to be discussed John’s that since we did Thursday’s episode a big day in the life work day whatever of Kevin Warren got put out by
The Chicago Bears it was a big story the very next day he does a public press conference I was there at lry Children’s Hospital regardless of what it all means means you know big picture shout out to the Warren Family for donating $1 million to Lori Children’s Hospital something that’s very near and
Dear to my heart which I expressed on Twitter um on Friday so that’s just amazing regardless but just the timing of all this and we know Kevin Warren’s gonna talk this week we’ve been informed of that I just feel like we don’t get out of this week without Kevin putting his stamp on
Something I don’t know what that something is but doesn’t this feel like it’s been strategically laid out there this big piece comes out on Chicago bears.com all this was pre-calculated I don’t know um he’s been laying in the weeds and quiet all year and then you get this big story
Out of nowhere that they put out maybe I’m part of the pre-calculation um um I don’t want to say you’re making too much out of it like I know what you’re like I I was yeah I sat down with them like it’s a long time ago now I think
Six seven weeks ago um I know what you’re saying I do um I’m just not sure what that’s going to be that could be a vote of confidence for Matt eberl in a sense that’s what I’m saying it could be him quoting dick verm on Wednesday I’m serious about that no no
No no and that’s what I mean regardless of what it is even if it’s everybody’s coming back I just feel like Kevin Warren’s going to be the one delivering a very strong message in one way or the other that this is his decision what you know I I don’t
Know you get you kind of understand what I’m saying yeah no I know what you’re saying like I’m the boss this is my team now I’m the president I’m the CEO this is the direction I want to to lead this team in like this is my influence and
Whatnot I what I think you’re going to get is him backing Matt EO with Ryan poles at his side and thorough explanations about how they’re I don’t want to use collaboration I just said it I’m sorry how they’re how they’re working well together you know Ryan PS and him and
How the best decision was sticking with mat because of stability and how we’re not going to overreact to this that and the other like I feel like that’s what we’re getting but yet there will still be change major ones your predictions okay so four questions will Matt eflu Remain the head
Coach of the Chicago Bears yes I say yes to Will lukee gatsy Remain the offensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears no I’m going to say no will Justin Fields be the quarterback of the Chicago Bears week one him next season no I’m gonna say no as well now the
Fourth question is of those three answers you just gave which one would you be um if you had to pick one of those that ends up being wrong which one would you pick Fields okay based on I think there’s a connection between him and Eber flu one that maybe
Supercedes the gatsy influence the the gatsy play calling that that that conversation I think fields and ebra flu have established a rapport maybe even a trust together you know it’s it’s it’s like him giving him a message of 200 where he went two touchdowns zero interceptions zero SE like little goals
Like that it’s efu sitting in the quarterback’s room for two years it’s him having these Breakfast Club meetings with Justin Fields over these past couple years like different interactions so if there’s one that I don’t feel good about it’s that one because I feel like there has been a relationship established between the
Head coach and quarterback so I probably agree with you but in the interest of us not giving the same four answers to all four questions I am going to say Flo and it goes back to what I was just saying about Kevin Warren and it’s just
Always stuck in the back of my head from day one with this guy and not even just what he said in all of his press conferences when he first got here or at the owner meetings you know when we were there in Arizona it goes back to things I was
Told about him from day one with the sources I checked in with that that had worked with him and knew him and all this stuff he shoots for the moon on a lot of things and that being said I have no idea if he’s shooting for the moon with Jim
Harbaugh but it definitely would not Shock me if he was just knowing what I know about Kevin war and his history like if there was ever a team president come in and shoot for something like that that in the past we were like Jim Harbaugh the Bears would never do
That I feel differently about that now that Kevin Warren’s here and something about sorry just something about status quo here 10 and 24 over two seasons granted that that’s not completely fair to put all on Eber flu but the other record we talked about earlier that I do think you
Can put a lot on flu 2 and 10 against the NFC north 0 and four against the Green Bay Packers something about status quo Johns does not match Kevin Warren to me and I cannot get that out of my head it’s just a feeling I have and I may end up being
Completely wrong about it but so to answer that question I just asked of those three that which one we think we could be wrong about I’m gonna go with my eberflus prediction which I I do think he’ll be back but if I’m G to be wrong about one that’s the one and I
Think it has to do with Kevin Warren and Jim Harbaugh is the only big swing like to to play out your scenario like again I was making light of the situation earlier but I’ve written this if you’re going to get rid of eus go for the big swing go for Jim
Harbaugh right go for the coach that NFL teams have been looking at or trying to pry away from Michigan for a few years now like that is the Home Run swing I don’t think Ben Johnson is I don’t think Bobby slowick is like we’ve had our run of hot name
Coordinators right we’ve had a couple defensive guys come through here we went with the R tread coach for the first time in John Fox that didn’t work out well we went way out of the box for Mark tresman that didn’t work out well we tried the young
Hot name coordinator to Matt naggie from The Andy Retreat that didn’t work out well so to me it’s the Home Run swing or you keep flu that it’s really it um yes you have to do your due diligence yes you have to interview other candidates yes you need more information
And yes if You’ bring in Jim Harbaugh your structure is going to have to change it’s going to have to but if I don’t know there’s been some there’s been some Whispers that he might be okay I know come on I think that that’s why he didn’t ultimately get that Vikings job though
And so maybe maybe he’s that desperate for an NFL job because he knows what’s coming down the by the way getting Jim Harbaugh might mean Jim Harbaugh is not coaching week one for you because the NFL’s already kind of come out and said that if he gets an NCAA
Suspension they’re going to honor it at least some of so he may yeah he may end up being that’s part of it right that’s part of the evaluation with Harbaugh like yeah stuff like that happens under his control I I I will say this to maybe further the
Intrigue I think Ryan poles knows what it’s like to work with very highly influential but very very successful head coaches just look to Kansas City where Andy Reid is King I think Ryan poles might be able to handle that situation the Jim Harbaugh situation quite well just because I think he’s got
A history of dealing with influential head coaches yeah well Ryan P guy yeah yeah I mean Ryan pul there’s a lot of GMS that would not have loved the structure changing on them a year after taking a job and all a sudden having Kevin Warren above them so Ryan seems he just strikes
Me he’s very confident what he’s doing believes in himself yeah and most of the results have been you know with some couple bad exceptions but most of the results have been pretty good that support that all right any other final thoughts before we get out of here No it should be an interesting
Week yeah I think tomorrow is going to be mostly quiet when it comes to Chicago Bears maybe loud across the league with some other moves but um be very interesting to see what happens with Bill belich for instance you want to trade Justin fields for Bill belich straight up no okay just
Checking um I think we got some chats to go through real quick oh do we we got some super chats got some super chats okay um oh my bad Eric Freer $5 Brady was 29 and7 versus the Jets it’s that level of stupidity it’s almost referencing the
Packers record 50 and 15 50 and 15 with three different quarterbacks Patrick Mets $ five Luke getsy made Joe Barry’s defense look spectacular yet the Panthers were able to hang 30 points on them someone will have to be the scapegoat it is I brought brought up
This point on chgo Johns there’s still a scenario which Joe Barry gets fired even with the Packers making the playoffs in fact I would still say that’s a likelihood so it would be remarkable if Luke gatsy doesn’t get fired and Joe Barry does despite what happened in this game tonight I mean
Nine points yeah he’s right Bryce young had a a rough rookie season and his best game came against the Packers yeah th this game like and I know the Bears had some injuries up front and KT left the game with a forarm injury like I get it
Not ideal but this game felt like es scapegoats like needed or coming does that make sense to you like yeah just the whole vibe of it like it wasn’t going well offensively we’re like okay changes are coming like this isn’t good that’s why I felt like all week this game was gonna
Matter I really did and I and I and I think it did especially for the offensive coordinator and the quarterback um do we have any others uh cloudy future which by the way is not what the Bears have the Bears have a bright future regardless we hope uh he says $5 excited
To see how Evra flu some po screw up Caleb Williams or Drake May that should be good stuff have to have that Circle of suck going I have a little faith yeah Bears will get it right eventually Patrick 4 I do not know what CHF is in the currency world but there’s
10 of those uh excuse my French oh so is it French oh Franks of course um oh my God I’m the worst you want to take a stab of this just read what he said the Bears have a new I’m not saying the the the French part if if you’re watching on YouTube
You could see at Le Chicago Bears on no proprietor yeah I think I just actually did it pretty good whoa whoa whoa don’t delete it I can’t see it the Bears have a new owner Matt laflor is 10 and0 against the Bears uh the Vikings and bears have the
Same season go backo okay so it’s a French Packer fan jumping in here classic we appreciate the Super Chat Marlon Harris $5 no good OC is coming to Chicago with a lame duckhead coach see see I actually we’ll debate that there are some intriguing offensive coordinator names out there or could be
Potentially available especially some upand cominging offensive coordinators who do not call plays who may need that opportunity to further their own careers okay that idea I hate don’t hire another guy who’s never done something before okay then how about Kell keep doing that then how about Kell Moore who may may not be
Retained by the Los Angeles Chargers um maybe Kell Moore come on Kell Moore didn’t do much with Justin Herbert this year I think there was a lot of things a foot in Los Angeles and he wasn’t retained by the Cowboys who have continued to be look good without
Him so I don’t know I like Kell more but uh that is a i and well and by the way think I think in OC with the opportunity to inherit Caleb Williams to work with Caleb Williams there’s still going to be people lined up at the door
Kings if they are hiring a new OC I hope they’re not hiring somebody who’s never called plays before historically not a good idea here doesn’t go well Fair Point Fair Point uh Michael jumping in $2 we need another effing Corner who need another corner still my favorite but yeah that applied
To tonight 100% dude yeah they missed Jaylen Johnson Jaylen Johnson at a great ending of the Season he’s going to get paid uh Chris $10 it’s crazy to think the night Justin was drafted news broke that Rogers would be traded happen next year and all the hope
We had and it might end in Green Bay where love looked good stings y I still think they should have traded Justin that or um Aaron Rogers that night I think it set them back as good as love looks now they got to pay him and they missed the
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Status without him and Greg Roman is known for his Rush offenses not so much his pass offenses well he did play a good a good role in the development of Lamar Jackson Greg Roman throughout well throughout history there’s a long track record Here is known for his Rush
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Bears are doomed with Fields. Watch Josh Allen’s Eyes, Mahome’s eyes. The killer instinct, the intensity to take over a game. That’s the only way to win a Super Bowl. You need that level. Fields brain is too slow, he is to worried about technique to have control to let his intensity take over. JF you can see the wheels turning.
While other QBs are winning we're just going to continue to evaluate….
Flus won only 10 games it two season, that’s awful.
Clean house and start over Again.
Getsy and Fields are clearly gone so there’s really no argument for Eberflus. You just start fresh. Hire Harbaugh Tuesday after the title game
Why the hell would Flus come back.. This organization is such garbage
Unfortunately, as far as the coaching staff, the more I hear the more it sounds like they will all return for no other reason than this organization wants stability.
Can't say that is good enough reason to continue with mediocrity.
they need an o line, only Burrow could work with a bad o line and they still invested into it.
You guys will hire Harbaugh and suddenly it’ll be like last offseason. Your fanbase will talk so much trash and be just as insufferable as you were in the summer. And then when the games actually matter the Bears will blow it like they always do.
Because it’s the Bears and all they do is lose.
I hope Jahns is wrong..how can you bring Flus back? what has he done? hes the one who hired getsy, hes the one that calls plays where justin jones is in coverage…draft qb n pair him with his offensive minded hc
After last night, you have to start over.
Need an open HC position that you can fill with either Harbaugh OR an OFFENSIVE-MINDED head coach with the promise to pick and develop their own quarterback.
This has to stop.
You guys need a better o line. QB can't scramble the whole game. Love looked like crap too when he got presured early in the season .
Id keep justin. Draft the wr get a haup gor the number one pick and pick up a qb with the 10 pick after trafing down with that one also. The Washington qb maybe.
Getskee play calling was horrible come on 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I wonder what year Poles thinks the Bears might try and compete against the Packers
Both sides of the ball looked passive, sluggish and soft. The game plan on both sides was uninspired and anemic.
Tevan Jenkins had his worst game of the year. Nate Davis has been disappointing. Braxton Jones isn't good enough. We know there's no good enough center on this roster.
The defense had no explosion and lost the line of scrimmage consistently.
It's astounding how much this game looked like the first game. This coaching staff doesn't need to stay
Fields continues not to be the problem. Given everything this team needs, trading that first pick makes the most sense
Fields: 16 Td, 9 int, 2500 yards.
CJ stroud: 23 TD, 5 int, 4100 yards.
Stop making excuses for fields already. The texans don’t have weapons and look what he’s doing. Ya’ll grasping at straws trying to argue for fields. Open your eyes
Could this be the first 50k video?
Lets face it Fields is Trubisky with wheels. Trade for Russell Wilson then get Marvin Harrison Jr. with your number 1 pick in the draft. That goes along way to solving the offence. Then use remaining picks on O-Line upgrades or Defense!
Love isn’t good. 12% of pressure on his drop backs lmao, yet no one will talk about his time to throw even though we all saw he had all the time in the world. Matt LeFleur is good, very good actually
Jahns looks depressed! Chin up buddy! Maybe that awful game was even worse in person.
An OC and HC are not that powerful in determining how poorly a QB plays. Although I believe Flus & Getsy need to be fired, Fields gotta go too.
Fields is a nice guy with toughness and character. He’s not a good QB. If Fields was throwing for 250+ yards, 20+ completions, and still losing, then it’s completely the coaching to blame. Not the case. They all need to go.
Detroit is a better team than GB, right? It felt like the Packers know what Getsy is going to do and he couldn’t adapt.
Eberflus can’t come back what are y’all smoking
There is no way in Hell the Mckaskies hire Jim Harbaugh. Jim will be going to the Chargers.
Fire this coaching staff
They tore this thing down to the studs doesn’t the Flus deserve 3 years at least? I think so. The other coaches not so much. I think Fields deserves another year.
Fire Eberflus, Getsy & trade JF1. Hire Dan Quinn, he hires his Kyle Shannahan offensive coordinator and let Ryan Poles cook during the offseason. 🐻 ⬇️
Jordan only looked good because the Bears ran cover 2 the whole game and played conservative on offense like their season wasn’t already over.
I can’t deal with this team anymore and everyone covering up for fields. He stinks. Go watch Steven A. Smith show and his break down of him. The guy doesn’t have it. He can run though.. who cares! He’s not a running back. Also as for the head coach. Ask yourself this. If he has another losing season are you keeping him around? No. So why draft a QB and then fire another head coach and do the same thing we just did with fields. I normally don’t comment but I just can’t with this team anymore! Bear Down 🐻
Fields is not going to be Jackson, one of the first 2 QBs taken will be comparable to Lawrance and in 2 years Fields is likely to be comparable to Mayfield vs Lawrance who is probably 10 on the QB list but Mayfield likely will be 15-20. Fields has been given the 3 Trubisky years, has not accomplished as much and passing has little more promise than him, this management will never have QB choice again unless they take one in a Picket year.
The Packers have a diverse ownership and permanent people drawing a Packer paycheck who switch out coaches and QBs before their time, there are probably a small group of influences that steer the GM on these issues. This large group have children, cousins, etc who grow up Packer nuts and go into sports majors in collage, are on staff or management of NFL or collage teams, and have insight into QBs and coaches. QB accuracy and the stats are easy to see, the dedication, looking over the field calmly, finding the right guy with the right timing are not, I think the Packers coaches or insiders have better information. They would have someone who could get Harbaugh feedback and pre-planning before the sham search, even though he was drafted by the Bears I suspect Bears management has little to no communication with him over the year and there is no back door.
Guys just be honest with us fans. Why hold back on the truth. You guys know we'll JF is gone. Just be honest and say with your chest. Bears have the first pick again and no way JF is getting in the way from the team going QB at 1.
This isn’t a rivalry anymore.
1-14 in the last 15 games. It’s an ass kicking everytime.
I’m not here to defend Justin, but the people blaming Justin for this game is clueless. This was team loss. If you were really watching the game, you would see the O-line was bad. No QB would have been successful. The D-line put no pressure on GB QB, Love had 4-5 seconds to throw. Bottom line, the Bears need to fill several positions. I watch CJ game against Indy, what I saw ,CJ O-line was giving him time. Don’t know what the answer is, but you can bet if the Bears don’t fix the O-line, you will have the same augment.
I love the kind of guy Fields is BUT he just doesn’t have that it factor to be a successful QB. Despite his physical talents he just doesn’t see the throws and holds the ball too long. Sorry folks but he just ain’t it
If Harbaugh is on our sideline do you think the Bears look like they did Sunday vs the Packers. Harbaugh would not allow his team to get pushed around by the Packers like they’ve been doing for 30+ years
Doesn’t this game display the lack of depth. Fields has 2 reliable guys to throw to?
Fire everyone or you'll see more of the same inept football !!
Good work guys
Jordan love played well because there was non existent pressure on him. Maybe a couple times but come on, his WRs were also wide open most of the time. He had a good game and made critical throws, so credit to him but we have to stop pretending like he is AR. Fields got killed because of the line and getsy being dumb. Fields had a couple where he could’ve thrown it out or thrown it to his guy but man, it was just bad overall by the offense.
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