Former Kansas Jayhawk and NBA champion Scot Pollard joins Mitch Lightfoot and Chris Teahan on today’s new episode of Rock Chalk Unplugged. Scot Pollard gets honest about his playing days at Kansas Basketball. From getting recruited by Roy Williams, playing with Paul Pierce, and even his welcome to Kansas moment. Scot also talks about his experience on the reality TV show Survivor, his NBA career, and what really happened during the malice at the palace during the Pistons and Pacers 2004 brawl. Tune in for another great episode of Rock Chalk Unplugged!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Intro
01:18 – Thoughts on Indiana Game
06:12 – Mizzou Rivalry
11:30 – Chiefs Chant After National Anthem
17:37 – Getting Recruited by Roy Williams
24:48 – Welcome to Kansas Moment
27:58 – Bill Self vs. Roy Williams
30:06 – KU Practices Back in the Day
33:39 – Most Talented Teammates at KU
36:31 – NBA Draft Experience
40:10 – Scot’s Personality in the NBA
42:41 – Hardest Players to Guard + Best Trash Talkers
46:35 – Malice at the Palace
53:28 – 2008 NBA Championship Season
1:00:45 – Being on Survivor
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Were you on the team during the m in the pal yeah just give us a brief I I don’t want you to get to just give us a brief on kind of yeah what was like even going through your mind during that there was players fighting each other coaches
Fighting players our our coaches and our players fighting and finally it gets calmed down and Ron ESS looks around he goes y’all think we’re going to get fine for that and then the next time we went back CU we had to go back for the next
Game they called in a bomb threat they closed the arena down and we had to clear out and they search for for a bomb and they’re like it’s up to you guys if you want to go back in and play I’m like no we’re not and I got out voted by a
Bunch of idiots that were like yeah no I I’ll risk my life to go play a basketball game I was like guys I got a lot to live for I really like this thing called life I’m not risking it to go like what if there’s a bomb in there’re
Like well they didn’t find one I’m like yeah that’s kind of the point when you when you have a bomb in a building dad used to tell me all the time used to tell me all the time son don’t worry about the mules just load the wagon
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Thing you’re missing out great material great fabric I wear it all the time go get yours today what’s up guys welcome to another episode of Rock Chalk unplugged I’m Chris tan along with my co-host Mitch life foot we have a big Time guest today Kansas Legend Scott par
Scott we doing uh I’m getting old that’s uh that’s what that means when I start getting introduced as a legend you are a legend you are a legend it’s a great thing Scott I wanted to ask you you’ve been following along with the Jayhawks obviously this year uh this
Past Indiana game what did you see from the Hawks in that game and what do you think that we need to do to make sure we’re successful down in March well it’s uh there’s some things that are typical and you guys know Bill self better than I do um but there’s
Some things that are typical of a bill self team that are happening right now and it’s you know lack of a bench production and there’s some inconsistencies even among the starters uh and who we can depend on night in and night out and that’s typical for this
Time of year uh it’s also typical this time of year that somebody on the bench or or the bench as a collective starts getting better and starts contributing more um so you know casual fans might hit the panic button like oh no we’re there’s nothing going right like we
Don’t have a bench at all and they’re just you know uh but again that that’s kind of a typical Bill self thing I think where you know he goes heavy on the starters early and then um they start to the bank starts to per perform
And then we get into league play and and it’s a whole balanced team and we have a deep playoff run so um I I just feel like that’s kind of on par for for what coach self does and uh I specifically the Indiana game um you know I I think
It’s it’s been the last couple games I think that our pick and roll defense has been exposed a little bit um it it looks like um big fella doesn’t move too well uh and they’re going to try to other teams are going to try to exploit that
Um I personally I’d love because you know when I finished I was what second I think all time and block shots I’ve been pass but um I’d like to see him blocking the shots more and being a little bit more of a rim protector but that’s just
Not his his game it’s not his style so I’m not going to get mad at him for not being that guy um but uh you know there has to be somebody in there that we can push Defenders or push offensive players towards uh and know that there’s going
To be somebody there to to at least alter shots uh as opposed to getting all the way to the basket Marquette did a great job of that I think Indiana did a great job of it ases well uh we just we made the run at the right
Time and you talked about screen defense and it it’s no it’s no secret out there that Hunter does not move as well as some of the bigs that we’ve had in the past do you think that’s more on the guards to recognize that hey maybe we
Need to give him a little bit more help off those ball screens because the Big 12 is such a guard heavy League now you look at teams like Houston you look at teams like Baylor if you’re dropping off the ball screens and don’t have good ball screen defense those guys will go
For 50 do you think it’s more on the guards to make sure they get over and only have him be a one slide help kind of guy or are we still going to be down in ball screens um that that’s an adjustment that’s going to come based on who’s on
The floor uh helping him out I think some guys are going to be able to help him out better than others and and get there and then there’s going to be guys that are just going to stay on their man because they got to and and again I
Think other coaches on opposing teams are going to take advantage of that they’re going to put a shooter on the opposite side so you can’t leave them and go help uh so you know it’s it’s going to be a Personnel dependent uh maneuver but yeah it’s something that
Probably needs to be addressed because it’s obvious I mean if we’re talking about it the other coaches know about it too so they’re going to keep hammering it and taking advantage of it until Coach self makes an adjustment and the team uh you know gets an understanding
Of hey we’ve got to help big fella out or we’re going to have to down the screens and and keep him home uh but even then like I said he’s not a a great rim protector so you know maybe having him stand still down low is better uh
Cuz he’ll be there uh but you know we don’t want to get him in foul trouble either yeah I I think the one thing that that it does bode well for Kansas is the fact that we have Dean who’s already been Defensive Player of the Year in the
Big 12 we have K KJ who’s who’s a great defender in himself Kevin who is in the running for Big 12 defender of the year so like there’s three guys right there that can help cover up for him but if it’s all about having all five connected
And as soon as as soon as Hunter can either start to alter those shots or we change something up to where he doesn’t have to move as much and he can just stay and be a 7 foot2 guy and stand in the paint and try and at least stand
There and like alter shots that we need to do something like that but next question I wanted I wanted to get to is the Rivalry with missou having it be backed do you think that the the games that have happened currently like have the same passion as they did in the 90s
Or is that something that people need to that we need to understand and and people don’t quite understand right now I I think it’s hard for for young people to understand um the old folks like myself remember the big eight and and the big six even people older than me um
And that rivalry and how it was continuous uh I I do like seeing it back uh but at the same time it’s kind of like the Indiana home and homes now it’s kind of like the Kentucky home and homes now where it’s just another non-conference
Game does it mean as much no I don’t think so uh because you’re not going to see them twice a year and then in the Big 12 tournament and then in you know when you the familiarity I think breeds uh the Rivalry yeah and so when you’re
Only playing them once a year and you’re not going to see him again uh and potentially you know the the the contract runs out um it’s just it’s it’s different um so do I like seeing it back on the schedule yeah but it’s not the same and
Um it it just won’t be because of those factors um but uh you know it it is cool to to reminisce to to talk about how that’s you know such an incredible uh rivalry it was um and how it started and all that the the History part of it is
What I learned as a j-hawk once I was in school I didn’t know anything about it before I was there uh and uh it it became one of my favorite teams to play and uh if I remember correctly that’s the only team that I didn’t have a
Winning record against we tied over my four years with Missouri uh I don’t think we had a winning record everybody else we did but I think Missouri was the one that we actually had a tie record with because you just never know I mean
Shoot it was brutal it was we I mean we love hated playing against them we get stuff thrown at us by the antlers I mean batteries uh coins um they they were bad back then they would they made some really nasty signs one of our one time we got up the
Bus and somebody had the an effigy of I can’t remember whose jersey was if it was Paul’s or jocks but they had it burning from a noose I mean it was some there was some nasty stuff that those dudes did yeah I mean it was and and
I’ve heard worse uh from previous years but um you know it’s it’s one of those things that is just that rivalry was was special and uh now it’s uh it’s back on and I’m glad to see it but it’s not I don’t think ever going to be the same is
There anything that uh coach Williams did to like educate you guys on the rivalry or was that intensity itself like going to the games having the antlers act like that was that the education itself it was both Roy used to tell us about how much he hated Norm
Norm Stewart the coach of the of Missouri I hate that man I mean we knew they played golf together we knew they did charity events together but he’s like I hate I tell you what if I get that man alone I’ll take him out and he may get me once
But he’s not going to end me let me tell you this young fellas if I see that man alone on a street and I can get away with it I’mma take that man out like so I mean he tried to breed that it was just hateful from the whole you know
From the get-go and and in some ways it was and and uh but that that that is part of what made it special I mean the whole crowd would be chanting sit down Norm because he didn’t like to sit down on the bench he was always standing um
You know know things like that and then I think at the end when he retired somebody got him a rocking chair put it on the court uh which I thought was cool I mean it was both an honor and you know it was kind of a sideways insult but
Um Roy definitely helped fan the Flames of that rivalry and then you know you do a little history I was that that was what I was going to do is teach history in high school so I started learning some American history myself about you know the importance of that rivalry and
Where it came from yeah hey my favorite videos is is is the missou hype video that you’re in and you’re talking about how like they came to town they they burned our houses they killed our horses that’s that’s in the video and we watched that a bunch before uh
Before the Rivalry restarted back in like 2017 when we played them in an exhibition I remember we watched that video kind of as a team back in back in the dorms that was pretty cool seeing you that’s awesome yeah that’s awesome I didn’t know that um yeah it I mean I
Could go on but it was a a cool uh rivalry and uh began with actual Bloodshed you can talk about other rivalries and in in college basketball or football or whatever uh to my knowledge none of them started with people burning each other’s houses down and killing each other you know and
Things war was it was Guerilla Warfare basically um so yeah it it’s uh it it’s pretty unique yeah and you sum that up very well but you also have been very vocal on Twitter about the Chiefs chant at the end of the national anthem is that something that’s rooted from just the
Chiefs being located in Missouri or is it something about just how special the Cathedral of college basketball out Fieldhouse is that we shouldn’t be bringing anything from the outside in because I’m I’ve been a big Chiefs guy my whole life and I always enjoyed hearing it because that meant that we
Were doing well I mean I used to go in 2008 when the chiefs were one in N or one in whatever it was was so is that something that came from just your hatred of misser or is that something that just came from hey let’s keep basketball pure inside the
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What you do in the Comments first of all I don’t like anybody cheering for anybody besides the j-hawks in Allen Fieldhouse it’s the Cathedral of college basketball uh it’s a special place and one of the things that makes it special is the fans cheering so loud I mean it’s the loudest
Indoor arena in the world it’s a record setting place so why silly that why why make it a little less Special by cheering for a pro football team in a different state that part doesn’t make sense to me at all I don’t I don’t go to hockey games and and wear Boston Celtics
Gear um that’s just me you know it doesn’t make sense to me um and I will say that that a lot of the same people that do that Chiefs cheer are the people that were really going nuts about somebody kneeling during the national anthem so
You got to pick one and you can’t do both you you can’t be upset if somebody’s kneeling during the anthem but you’re also cheering for the Chiefs during the anthem to me it’s the same thing you you either respect the anthem and you you just let it play out
Uh or do your Chief’s thing at at Arrowhead where it makes sense and you know like the foot I don’t even like it at the football games you know I was at a Kansas game with my son uh the Kansas State game uh because Aussie was getting
Recruited by Kansas so they invited us out for a game and and they did it at the end and I’m sitting there like you know we’re trying to build something with the football program and and we’ve got it you know we’ve got a great coach we’ve got a great staff we’ve got
Winners we’ve got highly rated recruits coming in now and two years in a row Football bowls and they’re chanting Chiefs at at the end of The Anthem I mean how special is that for the recruits to come in and say you know I’m from Texas or I’m from
California or I’m from Iowa whatever they don’t care about the Chiefs and they’re coming in and they’re hearing Chiefs the home of the Chiefs like well maybe I’m not going to school here because they’re they’re cheering for a different team than the team that I’m here to play for yeah that’s my concern
And a I was with the recruits I was sitting with them obviously and more than a couple of them it was my son but also some other kids were like did they just yell Chiefs like why did they do that you know they’re they’re like that
That’s dumb and so that’s my thing I want Kansas Athletics to be special because they are and I think that the fans are why Kansas Athletics are special and if I could change it I would I would make sure that all the fans are like you know what I’m here to cheer on
The Jayhawks not my favorite pro sports team uh I have a favorite pro sports team too but it has nothing to do with them being uh from the Missouri rivalry has nothing to do with the fact that I’m a Raiders fan I promise it really is just that I think Kansas Athletics are
Special and I don’t want them cheering that at the volleyball games I don’t want to you know whatever any any sporting event if they do it at baseball games uh and also I will I will add to that that personally I don’t think they should play the anthem before every athletic event
That’s just my opinion I think it’s a time that players are warmed up and then you got to spend five minutes cooling off waiting for the the person to sing or or for it to play I personally as many games as I played in I prefer to
Just stay warm and let’s go if you’re going to play it play it early uh or just not at all but I don’t think I’m going to win that battle the thing that the thing that has changed for for us in our last year Chris was is we were back in the locker
Room uh during when the national anthem was saying and we would run out we would come out of the tunnel after after it was uh out or it was already done so that was like the time where coaches having a speech with us in the locker
Room and then we would come out on the court warm up and play so like that has been a little different for us in at least basketball yeah yeah and we we did that I mean I think they still do that I’ve been to two games this year
In both of the games they did that where it was just the cheerleaders out there with whoever’s singing so it has changed over the last I think five years our first couple years they did it if I remember correctly but yeah so that’s something that has changed Scott I wanted to transfer over
And talk to you a little bit about your time at Kansas uh first off I want to start a little chronological order your recruiting story with uh coach Williams what was that like what was what was it like having coach Williams Come and recruit you um
Well you know like everything else in my life uh hard work um garnered me the respect and and the opportunities that I’ve I’ve gotten in my life it wasn’t given um I’m the youngest of six all five of my siblings uh got scholarship offers uh and played division one with
The exception of my sister who just didn’t want to play uh College athletics but um I was on the I was known because of that uh because of my brothers uh but at the same time no one was recruiting me in San Diego I was just another big white
Guy you know um but then uh my sophomore year of high school I mean I was getting recruited I got letters and my first one I got from Jim beheim at Syracuse in seventh grade uh because that was back when they mailed you letters you know
You guys know what letters are yeah yeah I know it wasn’t an email uh it wasn’t Twitter um but but uh um we uh I I was you know known because of of my family and because of the size and all that but um you know I still wasn’t
Getting really looked at until I started beating up guys that were signed uh that were getting looked at and all a sudden you know so I had Jerry green who is one of Roy’s assistants uh that never was actually there when I was there uh he
Was the first one that saw me and then he took a job somewhere else I think Oregon or Tennessee I can’t remember which one he went to first uh and then it went to Kevin Stallings who was another assistant and uh Kevin said the same
Thing like hey you got to check this kid out and then Roy showed up and Roy took over I was then I was just so it made me feel special because it I jumped from assistant to assistant to the head man himself and that’s who ended up that’s
The only person I talked to from that point on once Roy took over so um I picked KU because of Roy um I I was gonna stay home I grew up in San Diego and I wanted to go to uccla really bad uh or Arizona actually verbally committed to
Arizona they uh had me out had one of my former College he he didn’t we didn’t play together but a kid that went to my high school was my host at Arizona uh they took me to a party and there was a lot of pretty girls there and uh I I
Liked that and so uh I I verbally committed to Arizona uh lude olsson’s wife made me breakfast after the party uh I mean it was they they treated me very pretty special but I would say the one thing was at practice uh the team was down on the court practicing and
Luke was up in the stands just sitting there just watching and then people would come in and start talking to him and he’d talk to him and the practice is going on and he’s just kind of like not really paying attention the assistants were running the practice I thought that
Was a little weird uh but Roy took a vested interest or at least it seemed like it and Roy made me feel special he made me feel like I was the only one uh that he was recruiting he said he wasn’t going to eat dessert until I committed
Somewhere uh and so that’s what how I committed to him actually is uh when we were I was out there for late night and back then it was midnight and being in San Diego you know it’s not really an indoor Sport City I’d never seen 17,000 people inside ever in
My life and it was midnight I was like what what is wrong with these people you know I I just had never heard of that and it was amazing to me and so that helped for sure but it was also you know Roy was Roy and um
Back to my brothers they all went to college and all of their Co coaches changed during their time in college and they all ended up transferring and I didn’t want that and so I was said coach if you promise me you’re not leaving uh you’re not going
To get fired I know that but you’re not leaving to go back to North Carolina then I’m coming here and he promised me he said I’m not I’m not going anywhere this is this is where I want to be um funny story I heard I don’t know if this
Is true you’d have to ask everybody since me but I heard that that promise uh was was told through generations and the last guys that he promised were um Kirk Hinrich and Nick Collison because everybody else made them made him promise that he wasn’t leaving and uh he made that promise and
Nick and Kirk were the last guys that he promised that he wasn’t going to leave um so I like I said I think I heard that but I don’t know for sure if that’s true bu Roy uh is he’s still is is like a father figure to me I lost my dad in
High school uh so I kind of went through the recruiting part alone with my mom uh and uh I was homeless for a little while I was couch surfing my mom went to go live with one of my brothers and so I was stayed in San Diego my junior year
And I was just kind of like living with whoever would live me I wasn’t like homeless on the street but I wasn’t in the house with my mom uh and you know so I definitely needed somebody that was going to be there and be a father figure
For me uh and Roy was that guy he just called me a little while ago check in on me um and uh so we’ve we’ve kept in touch even though he has no reason to keep in touch with me he’s still that guy for me that I mean that’s that’s super super
Cool I I’ve I’ve only heard good things about Roy I was obviously probably four or yeah around four years old when he left Kansas so I had a little bit of hatred for him but that was just because he left and I knew everybody my household was super upset about it he
Left the program leaves and Bounds ahead of where it was so Roy I mean he played a pivotal part in college basketball history oh I was pissed at him too by the way just so you know I was like you’re gonna go back and follow Dean Smith there was actually a
Little bit of uh I was in the papers I got quoted I said some not so nice things about Roy I was pissed off that he left um and you know I wanted him to be the guy Forever at Kansas you know the guy that reti to Kansas and you know
I I’ll never forget Danny Manning’s statement when when that happened the transition to Bill self and Danny said Kansas basketball was great before Roy Williams Kansas basketball was great with Roy Williams and Kansas basketball is goingon to be great after Roy Williams and he’s right yeah he was
Right kind of had a better hire yeah so we talked about your Recruitment and how you got to Kansas you obviously mentioned Midnight Madness late night in the fog where it was at 12:00 at night you said You’ never seen so many people inside of Allen Fieldhouse but what was
Your actual welcome to Kansas for where it was like this place is different um so Jack vaugh and I uh had played with each other in some All-Star games and and it wasn’t exactly a handshake deal but we both kind of mentioned like hey man if you go to
Kansas I’m going like we we played well together in those turn in those games and we thought we liked each other so we’re roommates at the jhawk towers back in the old days you guys don’t know about that but that’s where we used to live uh and they’re still there I just
Drove by them a couple months ago when I was out there for that football game um still still the just the brick jungle but uh um but anyway uh so Jack and I are rooming together and um I mean it just it just it just happened Indiana Kansas
And uh jock hits that game winner I was wearing a a different Jersey I was in there at the end of the game wearing number 54 uh because I’d been SC trapping and I got blood all over me and so I had to change jerseys they didn’t
Have a number 31 another one so I was wearing blank 54 uh and I went out to try to set a screen on him and the defender just went right under me and I had I think I had three or four fouls and coach was like
Do not foul I was like I got you so I just stood there like a dummy and jock just dribbled by and then I didn’t end up setting a screen because I couldn’t move I didn’t want to move and get an offensive fou and then I just Dove to
The basket jock hits that three and wins the game Damon Bailey had 33 that game against us and we they were good uh Indiana was really good that year and we kind of did a good job I think Calbert Cheney was on that team and I think we did a good job slowing
Him down but Damon Bailey their guard had 33 so I mean it was it was a rough game not only did that place erupt and it was like holy crap what the uh you know what I’m just going to cuss holy what the um that that was incredible in
Itself but then we got back home to the jhawk towers and our door was covered in notes and there was balloons and just all kinds of stuff taped to the door like awesome shot jock you guys rock rock chalk j-hawk that was when we were like this doesn’t happen in Southern
California where both of are from you know they like I said earlier this outdoor venues in in Southern California people don’t congregate inside UCLA games aren’t sold out night in and night out because people have other stuff to do outside in the nice weather it was that was my welcome to
Kansas moment and it was because of jock like most of the moments in Kansas were uh but it was uh that that’s when we both were just like man we made the right choice this place is special Scott I wanted to touch on a little bit obviously you played for coach Williams
And and you’ve watched a lot of Coach self basketball are there any similarities between the two coaching styles that you’ve seen um I’ve seen y’s practices no not similar we we pretty much ran from minute one of every practice we had a practice plan and it would be posted on
The wall before practice had an offensive emphasis of the day a defensive emphasis of the day and a thought of the day and we had to know those at any point during practice and Coach loved picking on freshman uh you if he said what’s Scott what’s the offensive emphasis of the day
And I didn’t know it if I was where whether I was Crimson or blue that team had to get on the endline and run if I didn’t know it and so it the intensity of making a mistake and having your teammates pay for it was always there from minute one
Um it works for both of them but they are very very different coaches um I just different yeah just different like I like I said I’ve I’ve been to a couple coach self- practices and I’m like this is like an NBA shoo around uh it’s it’s very
Relaxed um there’s not a lot of yelling there’s a lot of poking fun there’s a lot of sarcasm uh and and there’s a lot of uh work getting done um but I mean our practice is you it was defitely quiet nobody talked but Roy Williams um
And we’ break you know we’d break up bigs and Smalls and then the assistant coaches would talk during that time but when coach was talking nobody was talking and it’s just it it was a very different style when I went and saw coach self’s practice for the first time I was like
Everybody was talking every single person was talking all at the same time I’m like whoa it’s just it’s a big difference in Styles I’ve heard some rumors that that back in the day obviously there wasn’t the practice gym there so you guys did all of your practicing in the Fieldhouse
Even during the summer and for those that don’t know this the the the Fieldhouse turns into a sauna during the summer yeah there’s no air conditioning in there and there actually used to be a track inside The Concourse on the main floor that was a track when I was there
You know where like there’s the wall of memories and everything like there was a track there we used to run around that and like the rafters would be in the way you had to like kind of duck um especially for the seven Footers like
Yeah like you had to you had to run on the outside of the track because if you took the inside route you could knock your head on one of the rafters um so it’s it’s changed quite a bit Yeah and we either practice there or we’d go to
Robinson gymnasium which is across the street um and that’s where we played all our pickup games same thing though there was no air conditioning in there um or there wasn’t and um but yeah we it it was different man I I I’ll never forget we were we were undefeated
My senior year except when we went to Paris and uh we went to Paris and played these Semi-Pro teams where they had couple of Americans on the team and some you know whatever and they had special rules and we we lost I’m I’m not going
To go into depth about it but we lost we get on the Concord go back home land in New York get on a plane go to Kansas City land in Kansas City get on a bus go back to the Fieldhouse and we’re thinking we got a day off because we
Just traveled from France and Roy says taped it on the court in 30 minutes oh my God uh oh because someone took advantage of the free wine on the Concord this guy that was that was a rough day my friends that’s crazy I was at 880,000 feet or wherever
However High the Concord flies and I’m drinking wine because they’re like yeah I have some wine here is some more wine it’s on you it’s on the house I’m like all right cool and then we get back to the Fieldhouse and Roy’s like taped it
On the court in 30 minutes I’m like uh oh uh oh not a single free drill was made no we did we had a drill called drill the par because didn’t play good enough defense we did defensive slides back and forth across the key for 30
Seconds and then stopped and then did it again and then stopped and then did it again it’s called drill de Perry because we didn’t slide across the lane and help our teammates enough and we all got in foul trouble and actually I was the only
One in the second half of the first game apparently three fouls was the rule it was 10-minute Hales and you get three fouls for the game well three of our starters Paul jock and rith all had three fouls in the first 10 minutes and
So I’m lining up for the tip off in the second half and the guy goes um that guy that guy and that guy are fouled out I don’t know what the you’re doing and I was like no no they only have three he goes yeah that’s it they’re
Gone Roy lost his mind apparently he didn’t know the rules either he was not happy he didn’t cuss but he was not happy um so that that was our our trip overseas and uh that was our only loss until got to the the tournament and lost to Arizona but or
Missouri sorry again back to the Missouri I hate those guys hate them hate them they they always end up coming up so you you obviously I mean your four years at Kansas probably had the most talented rosters arguably throughout recent memory I mean you played with jock you played with
Paul Pierce raef I mean you played with absolutely everybody you could probably think of who wents the league in the 90s if you had to pick one of those guys the most talented person you played with or alongside of Kansas who was it man um the it’s tough because jock
Was such a leader and and willed our team to Victory so many times um and and distributed the basketball um you know he was a past first guy just like Juan um he he’s a guy that that was such a leader on the court I don’t know that
We’d win many games without jock uh but as far as just Flatout talent I mean Paul was like Bambi we called him Bambi uh he was all knees and elbows he just he was skinny uh but that dude just he just stayed after practice every day and played basketball with anybody that
Would play uh managers he’d pick on the managers and be like you you got to stay and play because nobody else wants to stay after we had just run ourselves to death and and Paul’s like I need more and so Paul just h his his athleticism and his his basketball knowledge
Became so apparent uh at that age even though he wasn’t the F the finished product you know the truth yet we all knew it so it’s hard to pick between him and raef because raef was consistent raef was there every single day just throwing buckets uh there there wasn’t anybody
That anybody that could slow him down he just turned shoot that shot it’s good um so you know people laugh at me like they were like how did you get drafted 19th in the NBA you average like 12 points a game or something like that I’m like I was the sixth
Option it was Paul R jock Jared Hass who by the way played his senior year with a broken wrist otherwise he would have had some NBA tryouts as well uh then back to Paul then maybe if somebody missed I’d go get the ball and go put it in I mean
There was there was a lot of Talent on that team we had guys up coming off the bench that end up playing the NBA for a little bit Billy Thomas who was a hell of a shooter uh Ryan Robertson and I were teammates in Sacramento for a year
Uh and and he took over the starting job when jock had his broken wrist at the beginning of our senior year so I mean we had a ridiculous amount of talent coming off the bench our bench could have beat a lot of Big 12 teams and was
A big eight until we won the last big eight my junior year and then the first Big 12 my senior year but um I mean we had that was that was a good team all right Scott I want to transition over a little bit and talk about your NBA
Experience obviously with being drafted what is that experience like for you what was your draft net experience and and how did you know where you were going to play so um I was projected late first round uh early second round and that’s what my agent told me and so um I didn’t
Go to the draft back then it was in New York um and uh only the lottery guys went you know you didn’t have 100 guys there all thinking they were going to be a lottery pick like it seems to be now um and so I went to
Vegas uh I was new newly married I I uh it was my first wife um newly married and and one of my brothers flew down and and we were in Vegas and we watched it in the sports book uh because that was the only place it wasn’t on national TV
So we had to go to the sports book to catch it and um so like I said I was projected late first round early second round I went and worked out for every team uh that was you know in that in that bracket except for Utah uh and I
Met with the GM of Utah the Jazz and uh Phoenix at this All-Star Game in Phoenix and he was like we think it’s a great fit you know your your former teammate Greg Oster tag is here Jerry Sloan the head coach loves you we management loves
You we really think you be a great fit for us I said yep you’re right but I’m not coming here and he was like what I was like listen um I was born here I’m related to most of this state I could fill the arena for 41 home games and
Still piss off family members I said I don’t have that in my bag I don’t I don’t have that in my in my personal life to deal with all of the family that I’m going to have to get tickets for every game and I said so I’m not coming
Here I said it’s me it’s a me issue uh I agree with you i’ would love to play for Jerry Sloan uh but I’m not coming here so they had the second to last pick of the first round Chicago had the last pick and that’s who ended up
Picking jock but we were wondering why jock hadn’t got picked I remember arguing and uh was like why isn’t jock getting picked and again we’re in the sports book so we don’t have sound we just have the TV and all a sudden they start showing Kansas highlights at the
19th pick I’m like oh finally jock got got drafted it’s about time and I’m like they’re showing a lot of me and then my phone rings and it was like one of those you know open up and yeah it sounded like a walkie-talkie because this is
1997 um and they go hey Scott this is the Detroit Pistons we just picked you and I was like hey and then I got kicked out of the sports book because you can’t be on your phone or you couldn’t at the time be on your phone and be in the
Sportsbook so they kicked me out and they that’s that was my draft experience I they sent me from sent me tickets and I flew from Vegas to Detroit the next day for uh press conferences and and that’s when I became a Detroit Piston not a bad that’s not a bad story at
All it was just yeah it was just funny like arguing about why jock hadn’t been drafted and so I didn’t know till the next day when he got drafted because we had to leave the sports book and I was making plans for Detroit so it just
Funny CU we were you know jock was projected to be a lottery pick after a junior year and he decided to come back uh broke his wrist and you know still had an incredible senior year but then the draft just was a different draft uh
So he he slid down to the last pick or second to last pick okay so Scott you obviously had a huge personality while you were at Kansas but during your professional career that’s where it kind of came a little bit more to light I mean the hair the hairstyles are kind of
What you were known for during the NBA you became almost like cult figure to many people who followed the NBA what kind of brought out that personality was it just having more freedom being in the NBA was it maybe just having a little bit more money kind of bring us on the
Path that developed you to being the character that you that you became uh well I’ve always danced in my own uh beat uh when I was seventh grade I dyed my hair blonde um I had a a you know the fauxhawk like I had hair but then I had
A fa Hawk I did that to myself in seventh or eighth grade also um so it had always been a thing um like I said earlier I’m the youngest of six uh my whole family is Mormon um which is a it’s a big part of who I am I’m not a
Believer in the in the church but it is a big part of my upbringing and and uh so that that might be part of that is just kind of rebelling uh from the the strict religious upbringing um but uh as far far as you know like I showed up to Media day one
Time in college I think it was my sophomore year with blonde hair and Roy just looked at me he goes come here we’re going to have a talk and he took me to his office I was like uhoh maybe maybe this wasn’t a good decision I thought maybe he was gonna
Kick me off the team or something and he goes if any of your teammates had done that they’d be off this team but he goes I know you dance yourself to a different drummer so uh I’m allow it but you know just don’t go crazy on me I was
Like coach I’m the same dude he goes all right and so he got a lot of questions about it on that media day and he kind of said the same thing but um as far as it continuing the NBA yeah uh I didn’t really paint my nails in the NBA um I
Felt like that was kind of played out at college and I was done with it but um the hairstyles are just you know hey let’s see what this looks like the only thing I never pulled off was an afro cuz I don’t have curly hair but I always
Wish had I wanted to try one more hairstyle that was the one um but now I have one hairstyle and it’s no hair fire it works so I’m glad I got it in while I could I wanted to ask you who is the toughest player that you had to guard in the
NBA uh Prime Shack oh my back my back still hurts um that dude um prime prime Shack was about 360 pounds don’t believe the hype uh I know what 360 feels like my dad was 360 and uh Shaq was every bit of 360 lbs Yao
Was really hard to to move like Yao just went where he wanted to but if you bodied up Yao he wasn’t going to spin off you and catch a lob dunk and that’s Shaq you you couldn’t just muscle sha cuz I tried and not only is it a losing B
But also he had that such crazy quick athleticism uh that he just spin off you and and get you know he he had the hook and they let him get away with that hook but there was literally nothing you could do I know what the guys that had
To guard Will Chamberlain felt like um because that’s that’s how dominant Shaq was in his prime I mean he was fast uh he he’d spin on you he’d shove you out of the way and dunk on your face I mean dude was that was the toughest guy I had
To guard and I I guarded my Idols I I guarded Patrick Ying I guarded Hakeem elijuan I put my hands on Charles Barkley um you know these are guys that I grew up watching and I was like in the same league with them and it was that
Was my welcome to the NBA moment I’m out there guarding Patrick eing my rookie year I’m like what the hell is going on in my life um but uh you get used to it real quick because he you gotta compete you can’t be you can’t be in awe
Of the guys you’re playing against you got to you got to compete with them but um I mean I guarded Yao Ming I the some of the greatest players centers that have ever played the game I I played against you know Carl Malone um these guys that that you you when you think
This this was one of the greatest centers of all time Tim uh Tim Duncan and I were the same age but um yarded Tim David Robinson his teammate and David was slowed by a back injury at the end of his career early in my career but
Um yeah I I feel like I guarded a lot of the best and still Shaq Prime sha was was the toughest it was just were were any of those guys talkers like did they were they letting you know about it or was it more of um just Charles uh and
And Charles is a great man we’re friends to this day but uh yeah I mean he he’d be like rookie you don’t want none of this get really y’all put a rookie on me like just he he was always talking he hasn’t shut up since
You watch NBA if you watch NBA he still talks he’s still talking so um but you know that the rest of them Tim Duncan was well known for how quiet he was um he would just once in a while he’d be like oops because he’s about to score on
You and like he he he’d make you stutter or Miss and he’d be like oops and just score it like that’s worse that’s worse um but yeah like Kevin Garnett used to talk a lot um I hated Kevin until we were teammates uh and then and then when we were teammates
I realized why I hated him because he’s a he’s a competitor guy plays his ass off all the time and he he works uh and that’s what I love about him as a teammate is is those guys that I used to hate playing against and all a sudden
I’m teammates with him like Reggie Miller same thing I mean literally the first guy in the gym every day at 38 years old when we were teammates and he’s in there before everybody else getting ready shooting after practice same thing so uh anyway I’m going off on tangents Prime
Shack that’s awesome that’s awesome actually that kind of that kind of ropes into our next question actually I have just kind of a oneoff just to you weren’t were you on the team during the m in the palace or no with Indiana you were yeah whoa just give us a brief I I
Don’t want you to get to just give us a brief on kind of yeah what was like even going through your mind during that well we the game was was done we we we had won we had won handily uh but our coach wanted to send a message R Carla wanted
To send a message because they knocked us out of the playoffs the year before the spring before and we were we were supposed to win we were ranked above them I think we had the best record in the East or in the league or something
Like that and so we were supposed to win it all the year the previous spring and Detroit knocked us out so Rick wanted to send a message and we sent it but he still had the starters in and it was getting chippy and no one talks about
This but if the coaches had taken a starters out of the game that night never happens uh we we win the game and it’s just another game and and that doesn’t happen and we don’t lose half our team to suspensions um so Ron at the time refused his metal
Mental health uh issues he refused medication he refused to go to treatments um he would disappear on us many times throughout the year uh show up to practice Barefoot uh in short Sports in the middle of winter in Indiana um just you know he was he was
Somebody that once he was playing you could depend on how him being an incredible player uh but there were times when he’d walk into practice and we’ just go tick tick tick it was just a matter of time before coach threw him out of practice because you just you could tell
When he’d come in and sometimes he just wasn’t there and so we saw that we saw it coming and he should have been taken out of the game and he wasn’t and him and Ben kept yelling at each other and kept hitting each other and and
Then he gets the foul called on him and he does the most passive aggressive thing a person could do he goes and lays on the scores table I mean that’s just in Detroit I mean that’s what what do you think was going to happen you you’re
Beating the crap out of our team and you go lay on the scorers table I mean the fans especially in Detroit yeah the fans went nuts and Detroit was such a great place to play uh in those days that that era not when I was there as a player but
Years later when they were winning championships again I mean that that crowd was incredible and they did not like that one bit and so Ronnie totally started it um got the stuff thrown at him jumps up runs into the stands beats up the wrong dude wasn’t even the guy that threw the
Beer at him um and then yeah it was just it was awful it was awful um you know we’re we’re standing there and I I had been suspended for a game before uh when I was with the Kings uh for stepping onto the court during a fight and so I
Was like I’m not moving I’m not spending that money uh for me you know the $5,000 fine that I had to pay for getting suspended okay that sucks right they also took one 82 of my pay that’s a whole game 182 of my annual salary got taken away for missing that game so
People don’t think about that that that step onto the court cost me $60,000 I wasn’t about to spend any money during the malice in the palace and step on the court again love you guys but I love my money more I earned this I’m not giving it away no one’s threatening
Me what does the locker room look like after that like what I mean obviously the CRA one of the craziest events in NBA history what do you like what does the coach even say well there was fights there was players fighting each other other coaches fighting players our our
Coaches and our players fighting like had to be separated physically um and finally it gets calmed down and Ron ESS looks around he goes y’all think we’re gonna get fined for that um that was that was the state of his his mind at the time and he’s an incredible advocate for mental health
Now I’m really happy for him he does really good things for other people now and so I’m glad that he is doing that um but at the time yeah we just it it was a mess in the locker room everything was ripped up uh my suit was ruined I had
All kinds of thrown on me as I was pushing everybody out to the tunnel when they finally called the game we didn’t even finish the game they called it and people were just throwing at us as I’m trying to just shove players because players are like I’m GNA go get that guy
Like no no you’re not no let’s just get the hell out of here like uh the rookie uh David Harrison jumped up and grabbed a chair and Threw It on somebody I’m like dude you’re going to go to jail and he almost did he he he hit somebody with
A chair and he pleed guilty or something like that and ended up not going to jail but he paid a bunch of fines and he got suspended and lost a lot of salaries for his rookie year as well but I mean it was the locker room was it was a mess we
They tore it up um my suit like I said was torn I threw that suit away uh it and then the next time we went back CU we had to go back for the next game they called in bomb threat so we had to leave the arena they closed the arena
Down and we had to clear out and they search for a bomb and they’re like it’s up to you guys if you want to go back in and play I’m like no we’re not yeah and I got out voted by a bunch of idiots that were like yeah no I’ll risk my life
To go play a basketball game I was like guys I got a lot to live for I really like this thing called life I’m not risking it to go like what if there’s a bomb in there they’re like well they didn’t find one I’m like yeah that’s
Kind of the point when you when you have a bomb in building they hide it it’s not be sitting there find it you think they search they searched an entire NBA arena in 20 minutes and they’re confident they they there’s no way there’s a bomb in there they’re like well they think it
Was a hoax we ended up playing the game and we didn’t die but man I was that I did not like that I I didn’t like that my teammates were like no let’s just go play the game I’m like no that I like living but yeah yeah that that
Whole malice in the palace that that shouldn’t have happened it it was easily avoidable uh where it not for the coaches egos as well as the players Egos and starters you guys know when it’s a when it’s a blowout starters don’t want to be in the game anymore they did their
Jobs you know the heavy minute guys did their jobs they won the game or they lost the game whatever the losers are pissed and the winners are done they’re like hey let’s get the guys on the bench some minutes I’m I’m going to rest I got a game tomorrow night in in Cleveland
You know we got a game next in two more days uh we got to change time zones I don’t I don’t want to be here but your final playing your final year playing in the NBA you’re with the Celtics and you guys ended up winning a championship
Kind of walk us through just that season a little bit and what made you kind of be like hey this is it finish out on the top um actually uh the year before I was done um uh when I was in fourth grade I wrote a letter to myself that I was
Going to play in the NBA for 10 years uh and I did it uh got to the Western Conference Finals I got to the Eastern Conference Finals with the Pacers with the Cavaliers got to the NBA finals with the Cavaliers in 10 years and I was like
You know what I’m just never going to win one so 10 years was my goal and I was done uh and then my agent called and said hey Boston wants to sign you they said come help us win a championship I said nah I’m good I don’t want to move
Again and uh then my financial adviser was like well if you if you go to Boston you can Charter planes once in a while on vacation I was like I I really like chartering planes it’s it’s you know private travel is a lot more fun than commercial travel um it’s not worth it
But it kind of is if you can afford it I highly recommend it I can’t afford it now but back then I was I could so uh that’s really why I I ended up going um I went house shopping myself in Boston and they have a law in the Commonwealth
Uh that you cannot rent a house that’s uh older than 1972 uh if you have children and I had a newborn he was nine months old and so that eliminated about all of the rentals in the suburbs because Boston’s old yeah and it’s a lead paint thing but
You can’t even like sign a waiver you just can’t rent a place that’s older than 1972 period so uh I ended up renting a a a condo in the in the sky downtown uh on near the South Station on top of the Intercontinental and I will not embarrass myself by admitting
Publicly how much I spent per month on that place but let’s just say it was a very very expensive rental um it had three bed four bedrooms four baths overlooking Logan Airport in South Boston and all of the Hotel amenities and 24-hour concierge parking underneath the building it was that was living and
And I said that was my last year so I’m going to enjoy this and so I ended up spending um the fall uh and early part of the winter there by myself really got to know the city walked to practices sometimes walked to games sometimes uh
But the the sad thing is is the first day I was there in September uh we were playing pickup games and I rolled my ankle and uh I had had some ankle issues and man that that one it wasn’t good I I kept playing of course because I’m an
Idiot uh finish the day and the trainer takes my tape off and my ankles just swollen up he’s like Jesus when did this happen I was like first game don’t worry about it ice it up let’s go um and uh next day I come in and it’s it’s really
Swollen I can’t move very well I fought through that for um because we went to Europe we went uh to IND Italy to Rome and then we were going to England and I’m walking around Rome and Danny AES the general manager looks at my ankle
And he goes you get the out of here you’re going home it was too swollen so he sent me home I didn’t get to go to England with the team they put me on a commercial flight back home got an MRI and the doctor was like you’re getting surgery
And I was like no I’m not and he goes well you might make it the rest of the season and you might not but you’re going to need surgery at some point and I said well we’re going on a championship run so how how long if I
Get that surgery how long am I out he go was about four months I said that’s February n I’m not missing this season I’m I’m going to help this team win a championship and ironically in February was when it gave out I was guarding Shack in uh
Phoenix and I turned to run and it the the Tenon finally popped the rest of the way and it ruptured completely and I acted like nothing was wrong but I couldn’t really push off and Kendrick Perkins was out so I was starting and uh the next night we’re in
Portland and I jumped off the wrong foot the whole time in in warm-ups uh acted like I was just fine and um Joel prisilla I don’t know if you remember that name he was uh not an Allstar let’s just put it that way he was a he was a
Functional role player um and uh he I had him boxed out and ball went up and I tried to get it and I couldn’t ended up fouling him and he got an an one and Doc Rivers takes me out he goes you’re done sit down something’s wrong he goes I go
No I’m fine I’m fine he goes no Scott you can’t jump there’s something wrong I was like coach I never could jump he didn’t buy it so they sent me home and uh they did another MRI and that was what it was like yeah you physically
Can’t play anymore and so that was the hardest part about that season was I knew we were on Pace to win a championship we had the pieces together you know they had just spent all their money getting Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen there to go with Paul Pierce and I
Mean I knew it and and so it was just it was hard to swallow that pill I you know like I said the the year before I was ready to be done playing forever uh but but then I got a taste of damn we’re finally GNA I’m finally going to be on a
Championship team uh after being on all the teams in high school college and previous NBA teams that could have would have should have and I had to watch the team that I was on go and win a championship and so I ended up uh I got
The ankle operated on and I was like well that one doesn’t hurt cuz I have back issues so my left leg is mostly numb anyway that one didn’t really bother me and I said but my right ankle is one that hurts and they looked at my
Right ankle it was exactly the same uh so as soon as I was out of the boot my left foot I got my right ankle surgery too so I got both my ankles rebuilt in the spring of uh 2008 while my team was going on to win a championship uh but I
Got a ring Paul Pierce won me an NBA ring and uh I’ve I’ve said it multiple times but I wear that ring for all the teams like I said High School I was playing in the playoffs every year college same thing in my senior year we
Should have gotten one of those uh rings for Roy should have been the first one he ever won and uh definitely Sacramento Kings you know we we should have won one in the Western Conference finals against the Lakers we choked in game seven uh and lost that
One game six was a travesty but we we choked at home in game seven um with the Pacers we get to the Eastern Conference Finals and the Detroit Pistons knock us out get to the NBA finals with the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Spurs just swept us didn’t even give us a chance um
And so I I’ve been on some good teams that could have would have should have and uh so I wear this ring for all those that’s freaking awesome that’s awesome I wanted to ask you one of the things that the fans had asked us about was your your experience on Survivor uh
I wanted to ask is that is reality TV where you get done shooting the skit and then you walk off and you’re sipping my Ties on the beach or is it is it what what is the reality behind reality TV so I I kind of thought that was it even
Though they told us beforehand uh it’s it’s real um and it’s real there there is no uh break I lost 46 Pounds in 28 days on the show uh I was hungry and uh thirst and thirsty um and I the good news is is I was
I started at 311 so I just got backed on to playing weight which was nice um it wasn’t like I was down in the low 200s or anything I just got back down to like 266 or something like that but um it was it’s definitely real um
The bug bites the infections they lost they’ll never go back to Cambodia that’s where we filmed uh they lost like 20 crew members to illness and infections uh we were all taking malar pills the whole time and then I was like What are the side effects of the malaria pills
And they’re like oh nightmares and this I’m like oh yeah so that’s why I’m having nightmares awesome so I said what what’s the cure he goes oh if you get malaria we just give you a bunch of these pills and it’ll cure you I’m like okay well I’m just going to risk getting
Malaria then so I stopped taking the malaria pills um but yeah it the the surviving part is very real now the edit think about it this way and I back when I used to give speeches I would talk about this about presenting yourself and um the best version of
Yourself when I was on Survivor three days was the average amount of time that they would film US 24 hours a day they’re they’re filming you in the dark there’s there’s a whole big wall of of uh night vision um cameras and they film everything uh even when you’re sleeping
Just in case you get up and go look for an idol they you got to tell the producer but there’s always somebody awake watching you but it’s 3 days for one 40 40 minute episode because 20 minutes are commercials back then I don’t know what
It is now but back then those was three days so in the last three days have you done something dumb have you said something you wish you hadn’t said have you been funny have you been smart have you been just a dick chances are all those things is probably a
Yes well they can take all that footage and they can put it all together and they can kind of make you look however you want um some people that I was on the show with and I knew this going in I was like yeah they’re I’m probably going
To be a villain I saw the other tattooed guy and I was like well Jason we’re probably going to be villains let’s live it up and we did we had a great time we had a blast and people I got death threats uh my wife was pregnant when the
Show finally came out and people were saying I hope your baby is born still I mean people are horrible this is social media you guys know um but we we got all kinds of hatred just because of reality TV and so that’s the problem Mitch is
People think that reality TV is real uh but they don’t they forget that it’s a game show I was trying to win a million dollars I didn’t trying to make any friends out there I wasn’t trying to like uh you know do what I would do in
My real life uh it was a game show I felt like I was on the prices right you know like hey oh no put the fire out yeah fine somebody’s done that before it was nothing I had that nbody Survivor had ever done but the the amount of hate
That you get uh for being a on the show some people on our cast really had a hard time with their edit and and their mental health they had to go to counseling um and there’s a guy I can’t remember his name off the top of my head
But there was a guy on previous season he had to like be institutionalized for a short amount of time uh because the PTSD he had from the show he just he he lost it like he was he really had some struggles and I heard he’s okay but I
Don’t know but um so yeah it it’s both real and it’s also heavily edited uh and so it’s it can it can mess with with people that are there’s even contestants you know on the show that that think it’s real you know and I’m like this
Sucks but I mean it’s like a long camping trip and getting voted out was the best thing in the world I had 11 days of vacation where I was eating and drinking my Ties on the beach all I had to do was wait for a jury meeting I’m like this is sweet I’m
Swimming in the ocean every day the only thing that was missing was my family it was awesome um the the 11 days after but but yeah the the game and by the way don’t mention to Jeff propes that he’s from Kansas he doesn’t like that how fast how fast did you put on
The weight that you lost I mean you said you lost over 40 pounds how fast did that take you after um it took a while because I actually liked being thin again um it’s it’s easier on my knees when I’m under 300 pounds um they hurt
And so I try to stay under 300 as much as I can I stayed there uh I mean I bounced back up to 280 pretty quick um but I stayed under 290 for probably a few years after that and then problem is my wife is an incredible Chef uh she she
Makes she cooks literally every single day we we hardly leave the house to eat because she cooks every meal uh from scratch and she makes you know makes sure the kids aren’t eating you know what is a lot of our food supply is poisoned uh so she tries to shop around
That and avoid those kind of foods um but it’s tough but um you know everything she makes is so good it’s hard to just portion control is my problem it’s it’s all good for you but uh it’s like oh this is good I’m going to have five
More that’s a good problem to have though it is it is she’s she’s an incredible person all right everybody that’s it for another episode of rock talk unplugged Scott we want to say thank you for coming on great great guest great story uh your time at KU was
Special your time after KU was special and then your time after the NBA was also special with your with your time in reality TV and being an actor so thank you for coming on we really appreciate it this has been another episode of Rock Chalk unplugged like subscribe and leave
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Great episode. Pollard is one of a kind and awesome! Why did Zona have to catch fire that year!? They run it back 10 times and KU wins it 9xs. Rock Chalk!
Great podcast. SP is the guy! I enjoyed wa5ching him play in a KU uniform. I was pissed like him when Roy left but Bill Self took us to another level (Natty Champs). I like how SP is a traditionalist, straight shooter and the Survivor talk was great!