BRAD DALKE INTERVIEW: Internet Invitational Win, Cheating Scandal, Joining Good Good

Good Good’s one and only Brad Dalke joins the podcast to talk about everything that went down at the Internet Invitational, including his side of the story when it came to playing against Paige Spiranac, Mo and Frankie. Then Garrett and Brad talking about potentially playing in a PGA Tour event and the story behind him joining Good Good. Enjoy!

Get up to 50% off with Black Friday deals for all your holiday shopping needs. Go to goodgoodgolf.com

Watch the video podcast on other platforms:
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3xuwNSm
Apple: https://apple.co/3huFu9E
Amazon: https://amzn.to/3hxkOOe

Good Good Socials
Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/goodgood
Clothing ► https://goodgoodgolf.com

The Squad:
GM GOLF ►https://www.youtube.com/@gmgolf
Garrett ► https://www.instagram.com/garrettj_clark/
Blake ► https://www.instagram.com/blakemullengolf/

Uh, we have a lot of things to discuss today. I I genuinely didn’t know what was going on with Mo the Mo stuff until 11 Green. It was it it was just wild to me. I feel like for the fans, it’s a shocking thing to hear. I’ I’d say it’s that that last T-shot I hit on 18 was I’d say it’s the same as first D to guess. That is the definition of locked. Yeah. I’m a much different golfer now than I was when I was playing pro golf before. I mean, I I genuinely believe right now my game is at a point where if I’m playing well, I can play with anybody. God has blessed me so much through all this because I literally went from almost dying from drinking to, you know, getting sober 3 months later, meeting you guys, getting involved in Good. It’s crazy how just everything’s worked out. All right, guys. We’re back with another good good podcast episode number two featuring the one and only probably the most popular man on YouTube golf right now Brad Dolly. Hello Garrett Clark. Thank you for having me on. I’m excited to excited to talk about everything. Appreciate you coming on. Uh we have a lot of things to discuss today. Um I got a lot of notes written out. There’s a lot of questions from the fans right now as to what’s going on and whatnot, but you obviously just won the internet invitational. So I think that’s like the first things first. We need to talk about the internet invitational. Talk me through the win real quick. Let’s talk about the positives first because there was a lot of drama that I also want to speak about, but um let’s talk about the positives. Yeah, I mean obviously I think you mentioned it in the last podcast. Shout out to Barcel Sports, Bob Dust Sports, Foreplay, uh Big Seedar, everyone that made it possible because I mean that that whole the three days I didn’t know what to expect going into it. I don’t think you did either. It was we didn’t know the format. We didn’t know if this was actually going to work. I know you mentioned like you saw the all the mics and the cameras and you’re like there’s no way they actually get this done like smoothly. And the way it was edited, the way it all just went down, it was I think the best case scenario for every I mean just how it all ended up looking the finished product. But um it was a fun week. I mean it was it was stressful. It kind of went from it slowly got more and more serious as the week went on because at first you’re like okay what are the odds I’m gonna be one of the last three people like not very high. So let’s have fun with it. Let’s have fun you know playing golf with you know for me like Gruden Chandler Biz um Roger all these guys like let’s have let’s have fun playing with them because you know most likely I won’t make it very far just because odds you know odds of that happening aren’t very high. Um but the slowly you as we kind of kept winning as a team and kind of kept going along going along it all of a sudden got got pretty real and it kind of went more into tournament mode um got a little more serious with it trying to make sure we had a chance to win that uh million dollars come down the stretch but I mean such a fun week and it’s been cool to watch these last three weeks just how everything’s come out and um all the attention it’s gotten from the fans. It’s been been cool to see. Yeah. Um, I did want to say something because you were saying like I feel like for the fans it’s a shocking thing to hear when you’re like, “Oh, the odds of me making it to that last three is like so slim.” Um, but I think one thing to just take a note of is like there was Wesley Bryan. Mhm. George Bryan, Luke Quan, a lot of great other players that also didn’t make it to the last three obviously. And I think that was there was some truth to what Dave wanted at the beginning of that internet invit invitational when he was talking about it was he wanted the opportunity for just any skill level to potentially win that million dollars. Obviously you had Francis and Beef who are also a part of the million dollar share. Um, but I think they did a pretty good job, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, with the format and almost like equaling out the competition because you obviously played way better than anyone in the field, but it wasn’t like a normal tournament where if you knew you went out and shot six under for four rounds in a row, you were probably going to win. Like, it wasn’t like that. Yeah. I mean, I think they did a perfect job. I mean, it’s I think that’s the best format they could have done. Um, with 48 golfers, nobody’s the same skill level. There’s so many different tiers. Um, tiers of skill skill skill level. What do you got to say, Asher? Hey, what’ you do? You’ll be fine. Um, Asher, sorry. We got Asher in the pod. Asher’s chilling. You want to say something? Give him a seat right here. Yeah. You want to here? Good boy. Good boy. All right. Um, but so many different skill levels out of 48 guys. Like I think they that’s the best thing they could have done cuz it gave everyone a chance to see like how a player of my caliber would react to a million dollar. It’s wilder. What would you like to say? Okay, you can get down. We need to focus up. Okay, go ahead. But I think it gave everyone a chance to see how someone like me, how I handle like the stress of a million-dollar match and also how like someone like B for Francis or Frankie handles it. Like it gave a really cool give the viewers a really cool sense of like, hey, this is for a million dollars. Let’s see how a like past pro handles it and also how you know a comedian handles it. Like it’s it was I think the format was fantastic. like they did a great job on being able to make it um even as possible. And I mean I saw a bunch of comments saying like Brad was playing so good like he was for sure going to win. I played my butt off the last round. We won one up. Yeah. So it’s like it was I think very fair and um I think it made for made for good TV. in the wind. I got a phenomenal deal. Black Friday [Applause] this year. We got great stuff this year. Bridget Polos $75.99. $75.99. Nope. Guys, it’s as low as 35. 35 bucks. You can get it right now. They’re only at good golf.com. Okay, cus. What were they? 100 bucks? Nope. As low as $50. And only at good golf.com. Come on, give it to me. Hoodies. What are hoodies? 70 bucks? No. 35 bucks? Right now at good golf.com. We got prices so low. Santa doesn’t know what to do. Okay. The elves. No one knows what to do this year. Police crew 60 bucks. No. Now it’s $30. T-shirts 30 bucks. No. $15. We got head cars for putters for for drivers for 3woods. Low is low as $,750 and his name is Johnny. Oh, deals so good the price is cut in half for some of this stuff and only at goodolf.com right now. [Music] I think it was going to break so good. I did want to talk about one thing because at one point you said that was the most nervous you had ever been. Almost equal to or more than the first T-shot at Augusta. Mhm. Insane. Like that. That’s a crazy thinking about that cuz I know if I’m at Augusta standing up there in front of everybody at literally playing the Masters, I wouldn’t be able to hit the golf ball. And you’re saying it was the same. I’ I’d say it’s that that last T- shot I hit on 18 was very similar feelings. I’d say is the same as first Desta because like the way it was all set up I mean this whole like six stressful rounds of golf are all down to basically me hitting this drive cuz like Frankie had already hit in the right crap. So I knew if I hit driver up there in the fairway, we’re probably going to win most likely. We should we’ll be odds are odds favorites, you know, after if I hit if I hit a good drive. If I had a bad drive, then we probably lose. So, it’s like literally in that moment and then you have Dave up there announcing like, you know, Frankie Butter Knives, you know, versus, you know, me. It’s like the whole setup of everything came down to me whether I can hit this fairway or not, you know, and obviously with the past I have with the driver, you know, it’s kind of like I mean, I wasn’t worried about that in the time at all. Um, but it’s it’s just it was literally a million-dollar drive. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and that’s kind of what it came down to. And that’s why I mean over that ball it was the same feelings as the first E shot at Augusta where I’m shaking like a leaf. You know, swing thoughts are almost out the window. It’s just literally like swing as hard as you can and just hope it go straight. And luckily it did. Yeah. Cuz you used to you used to talk about how you had the drivers at one point in time. And so, I mean, as much as you don’t want that to creep into your head, there’s definitely a factor of it where it’s like, now that there’s a bunch of pressure on the line, how’s my swing going to actually react? Yeah, I mean 100%. And it’s, you know, I’m confident enough now that I mean I think it’ll I think for the rest of my life it’ll always be in the back of my mind a little bit. Um, just because it was, you know, five or six crappy years just not fun. It’ll always be in the back of my mind a little bit, but I think I’m so confident now and my I know my swings and is just so much better now than it was then. Um, I’m still confident in, you know, the fact that I’m not going to I’m going to go up there and step up and hit a good shot when I need to. So, um, yeah, I think it’ll always be in the back of my mind a little bit, but also it’s it’s like that it made me just through that moment made me so proud of myself in a way because it just shows how far how far I’ve come. I mean, literally, if you gave me that T-shot 5 years ago, that ball would have been off the property. Really? I mean, that’s a crazy thing for me to even comprehend because I’ve played with you for now three years now. It feels like two, three years, however long it’s been. And it’s we don’t see that anymore which is wild. I like our brains can’t even comprehend you doing that because that’s not a thing. I mean yeah when I first started doing stuff with good good it was like I was on the back end like I was f I was on the up and up. Like early on I was still hitting some squirrely drives but not nothing near as bad as it used to be. Um and then obviously just through YouTube like YouTube’s a perfect space for it because like there’s enough pressure with a camera on that it will expose you if you’re not playing well. Yeah. But I’m not having to spend $1,500 to go play in a mini tour event and just like work on things. Like it’s a perfect spot to like work on things, build confidence, and also have just enough pressure to like, you know, it’s not like a driving range where you can go out there and just hit a dead straight ball all day because there’s no pressure. Like there’s enough pressure to actually expose yourself and gain confidence. And uh I think, you know, I’ve just been building confidence for the last two and a half, three years through playing with Good and playing on YouTube. And it’s kind of all, you know, accumulated to this. So yeah. Yeah, that’s that’s so true. Um, I wanted to talk about one thing because me seeing it from the outside looking in and watching, you know, that final round and watching you guys win and seeing, you know, beef break down in tears on the last hole. Um, now thinking back to that is a very emotional thought and, you know, it’s very special. I know I’ve I’ve talked about it and a lot of people have talked about it, but um the fact that he was able to hit the first T-shot and the last shot of the Internet Invitational was really special. What was that like being on a team with him? Also, Francis, uh but specifically Beef, uh rest in peace, uh to a man who was genuinely one of the best people I’ve ever met. Yeah, I mean I think you’re in the same boat as I am. We didn’t know him super well before uh that week in Branson. Um obviously we’d seen his clips on Instagram and all that and he seemed like just a fantastic guy. Seemed like just a standup guy. And then we met him that week and really got I mean I got to hang out with I played with him against Roger in that third round and then obviously those last two rounds and he’s he genuinely was the nicest guy like the like and I I’ve been saying this there’s not many people that can you know when you’re talking to them that can make you feel like you’re the most important person in the room but he’s one of those people just the way he talks to you the way he um communicates in the conversations like he makes you feel like you’re the most important person in the room when he’s talking to you and that shows that just says a about someone’s character when they can make you feel that way. And um just I mean we the team chemistry was I I think honestly and I’ve said this too. I think the team chemistry that me beef and Francis had won us the the event. Um I would agree with that. I think we were constantly picking each other up. We we all like we all enjoyed each other’s company. Like we enjoyed fighting for each other and like grinding it out with each other. Um, you know, cuz like that part three contest on the the semi-finals, we missed what, six screens in a row. I think if any other team does that, like they’re unraveling. Yeah. They’re going to make some bogeies, maybe even some doubles with a bad chip and then a three putt. Who knows? But we we enjoyed like we were just rooting each other on the whole time. Um, Beef started off poorly in the part three um part three video and we just kept me and Francis just kept lifting him up because we knew we needed him. like we knew like we couldn’t turn our back on our on on him, on Francis. They couldn’t turn their back on me. Like we had to have all three guys in the game um at the same time to keep just grinding out and you just never knew what might happen. So um and and their character and their personalities made it easier to do that. You know, if I’m playing with someone who maybe I don’t enjoy so much, don’t like as much, it it’d be very easy to maybe, you know, if they start playing badly, kind of, you know, turn your back. Obviously, I hope I wouldn’t do that, but like it’d be a lot easier to almost do that if they weren’t as good of a person. Yeah. But Beef was the easiest guy to root for, easiest guy to, you know, if he had a bad shot, go up there and just say, “Hey, you got it. You’re good. You know, you’re fine. We He I know for a while he was thinking he was like tossing us the tournament.” It’s like, “No, we got lots of golf left. We we need you.” You know, and then he ends up making like three clutch putts on the back nine that literally might have saved us. So, he he was just such a great guy. I mean, Francis is fantastic, too. France is the funniest guy in the room and he’s so fun to be around. But Beef was just an easy person to play for, easy person to um to root for and obviously those emotions at the end of the end of the event just showed how much that meant to him and how like that was literally and it was for me too. But that’s literally life-changing money for him. Oh yeah. And then now you watch the event back and him crying and the being emotional was like a whole different like in that in that moment him crying was like oh this life-changing money for me and my family and now it’s like him crying is like that it’s his tribute to YouTube golf it’s his tribute to the internet invitational bar stool foreplay like that’s that’s his moment and that’s like going to be you know etched in history of YouTube golf so it it’s it’s just wild see the emotions at that time versus what they are now and like how different it seems but they’re so great still. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s it’s special to look back and know that he got to experience that moment. Yeah. Um but beyond that, it’s what you were just saying like it’s a testament to his character. Uh the fact that now every single person online has said Beef was the nicest guy Yeah. to ever exist. Uh which is which is amazing. And it is very true. It’s all true. It’s like, you know, it’s some of those things where like someone passes away, they, you know, you see a lot of stories and stuff, you know, how they’re how they’re great and and Beef genuinely I think every single person that posted about him genuinely met it like meant it with with all their heart. Like he never rubbed someone wrong. He never like did anything to cause any drama or whatever. Like he was just he did his job. He was a great guy. He made everyone feel special and that’s just shows how how good he was raised and and just how good of a person he was. Yeah. Yeah. Um well I think on a uh a lot I mean obviously you know we can look at that and be like it is a very sad moment but it’s like you said at the same time it’s something to be very thankful for that he got to experience that moment. We all got to watch it and be there and um that was that was very special. But to get into a a different uh a different topic here, kind of something that I saw get posted on Instagram. Uh GoodG Good posted a graphic of you that was saying your winnings in 2025 from competitive golf that happened to be YouTube competitive golf was $453,000. Obviously a life-changing amount of money, but I want to do a little game here. I want to play a game with you. Okay, I’m going to list names and you’re going to go higher or lower. You’re going to you’re going to say if they made more than you in 2025 or you made more than them in 2025. So, right now I have a list of pros here and this is from the official money earnings on the PGA Tour. Okay. Of 2025. We’re going to start off with Wesley Bryan. Lower or higher than Brad Daly? I’m going to say he’s lower. Lower at $74,000. Yeah. We’re gonna go Nick Hardy. Higher or lower than Brad Doy. I’m gonna I feel like he had some good finish. I’m gonna say higher. Lower. $432,000. That was close though. We’re going to go Adam Stevenson. Higher or lower than Brad Daly. Oh gosh. Um I’ll go lower. Higher. 487K. You’re You’re off to a tough start. You’re one for three. Patton Kazire lower or higher than Brad Dulkey? Did he have a That’s a good pull of a name right there, isn’t it? That’s a really good poll. I’m gonna say lower. Lower. 283K. Okay. Webb Simpson. Higher or lower? It’s got to be lower. I haven’t seen his name in so long. I feel like lower. 331K. Okay. Quaid Cummins. Higher or lower? I’m going to go lower. higher 539K. Oh, I would have texted him immediately. I know. Oh, I can’t. That’s an old teammate of Brads, by the way. Love Quaid for anybody. Okay, Danny. Will it high or lower? Um, lower. No. Well, he’s That’s one I’m I’m going to go higher. Sneaky higher. You’re correct. He plays a lot of European tours, so 539K. Okay, we’re going to do these last few quickly. Luke Clinton, high or lower? Higher. Oh, no. Because a lot of it was am. Gosh, I knew I was going to get you on that one because he’s he was an amateur for a lot of them. Nick Wattney, high or lower? Uh, lower. 43K. Lower. Um, Chris got her up. Higher or lower? Higher. 100% higher. He made that. He made more than that in one event. 4.8 million. Higher. Yeah. And then finally, Scotty Sheffller. Higher or lower? It’s a tough one. I’m gonna go higher. I think you got the one right. Yeah. Okay. Um, that’s still crazy. I think we do need like we need to talk about this for a second. Like these are a lot of names that I grew up watching in the world of golf and I know you did as well. You got guys like Web Simpsons and Pat and Kazar. Like I said, even the fact that like from YouTube earnings, you were close to Danny Willlet, Masters winner. Yeah, he won the Masters. Um, you got guys like, you know, Wesley Bryan, Danny Willlet, Masters Winner, Web Simpson, Patton Kazay, all guys who, you know, I grew up watching. And the fact that in the world of YouTube golf now from competitive events through just YouTube, you can get close to that is awesome. It’s it’s crazy. It’s a crazy thought, but it it’s wild. Yeah, it’s nuts. Yeah, I think I mean obviously what there I mean there were two main events this year that had that purse for the winner and luckily I was able to win both of them. But I mean I think it cuz I mean this goes along lizard um lizard this goes along with like I mean some people you know comp all that but like why is you know Brad needs to go to Q school and and all that and it’s like there’s no desire I mean there the money in YouTube now there’s no desire for me to go like grind yeah like grind through the ranks like if you if you said right now like you had a you know PJ tour card and you you had a full PJ tour schedule, then heck yeah. Like I’m I’m gonna go play that. But like there’s there’s just no like there’s enough money in YouTube now and I’m having so much fun with it and it’s so stressfree. Like there’s no desire for me to go into the most stressful environment of Q School, Cornferry, PJ Tour Americas, all that. Like it’s I I just don’t feel any desire to do that. Now again, like if I got a couple sponsor exemptions and got opportunities through that way, then you know, we’ll see what happens. But, um, I mean, it’s just crazy how much money is in YouTube golf now. Obviously, just through the videos and, you know, through good good and all that, but then now all these events are having like huge purses like this and I think it’s going to get even bigger and bigger. It’s just wild to see and it’s it’s it’s cool to see. I mean, I think the audience loves it. I mean, the audience is shifting to to YouTube golf and I think that’s where the money is headed to. Yeah. No, and I agree. I uh this was a later topic that I was going to discuss, but let’s just get into it because I think that is obviously what everybody’s asking. Oh, why is Brad not on tour? Why is Brad not trying? Why is he not doing this, this, and this? And I think what you said is obviously very true. Like you trying to go put in the grind hours of working your way through Q school is probably not as worth it as you having fun. I mean, you have a wife, you have a life, you’re already very successful in the YouTube space, clearly, and playing very good golf, making good content, good good Brad Dkey, all that and whatnot. So, you know, as far as you going and spending all those grind hours in that time to potentially just not make it like you never obviously you’re amazing, but like there is still a portion of luck that needs to be involved. You have to play well at the perfect times. you have to, you know, win and get through each stage of Q school and then make it onto the tour. So, I mean, that’s one thing, but I did I wanted to bring up something because something that you talk about and I know that pros talk about as well is the fact that you grew up with a lot of these guys. You grew up with Morawa, you know, playing against him. I just saw him on the foreplay pod mention you uh and talk about how, you know, you were world beater back in junior golf. you played with and against Scotty Sheffler. You had an arm wrestling match with Rory Moy. Put that on the screen. You beat him. Do it. Do it. Whooped his butt. You beat him, right? Yeah, I did. Amazing. Um, even played in the Masters. Obviously, all these things that people know, but like watching guys that you grew up playing against, does that give you the urge ever to be like, “Okay, yeah, I do want to try it.” or or is it still one of those things where it’s like if somebody brought me a sponsor’s exemption, of course I’m going to do it. I.e. obviously, you know, with Grant getting offered his sponsors exemption, like you’ve talked about like obviously since you are a pro or you’re at that level, if you were to get offered a sponsor’s exemption, you would accept and you would go play. Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah, I would 100% accept because I mean I I genuinely believe right now my game is at a point where if I’m playing well, I can play with anybody. And I think that’s where, you know, obviously a lot of people say, you know, Brad tried pro like he he failed, so whatever. It’s like I’m a much different golfer now than I was when I was playing pro golf before. And I I genuinely believe and I think I think the my game is at a point to where obviously I’m better than I was when I was a junior golfer, but compared to others, it’s getting back to that point where I’m I I can play with, you know, the Moria, the Scotties, and all that. I think there is again there’s a consistency level to it. I think um and I’m getting there. I think I’ve gotten a lot more consistent as well. like I’m consistently playing better, but I think at my best I can play with anybody. And it’s a matter of just making my bad days better because obviously I mean again we’re we’re comparing it to to Scotty here who’s literally like on a Tiger Woodsesque run right now. Um, but his his bad days are shooting like 68 69 like it. But it gets Scotty though like you know before maybe go to like a like a Jason Day like you know he’s obviously someone who has been doing it for a long time had his card for a long time and it’s tough to do but that just shows like his bad days are not very bad. Yeah. And his good days are obviously good enough to win if he has puts four good days together he could win any PJ tournament or a major. Um, so it’s a matter of I mean my my best days are are right up there. I think it’s a matter of just make my worst days even just a little bit better. Um, but I think I mean I’d 100% accept a sponsor invite if it was if it was asked of me or if I was offered one. Um, and I think it’s you know it it’d be fun to give myself a chance to go compete against all the guys I did growing up. you know, Scotty, Sam Burns, Morawa, Havland, um, all these guys that I’ve known forever and have beaten them a lot of times growing up. It’d be it’d be nice to have a chance to go, you know, show them what I’m about now. You know, they they haven’t seen me play golf when I’m hitting, you know, driver as well as I am now. So, it’d be it’d be cool to give myself a chance. Yeah. No, I agree. Um, and I’ve seen it firsthand. I think it’s one thing to hear it from like Colin Morcow on a podcast or whatever, but like I’ve I’ve watched in person Jason Day tell you like why are you not like after you’ve hit golf shots that he’s like astonished by. You’re even like and that to me is testament to your game because you’re even impressing pros in person which cuz like you through a screen obviously you can be like he’s a really good player. Yeah. But it’s hard to really tell unless you’re in person. And you saw it at the Internet Invitational when everybody was like literally just blown away. Every time you hit a golf shot, everyone’s like freaking out. It just shows like in person it does look pro, you know? There’s a difference when you’re hitting it. Well, it looks pro. Yeah, I appreciate that. I mean, yeah. And it’s again, like you said, it’s easy to hear through the screen and and hear everyone talking about it. hear Bob shouting to the skies every single time I head shot. Bob was freaking out. Bobby and Joey. Um but yeah, I mean it is cool. That that was a cool moment. That was kind of a turning point moment maybe for me whenever Jason said it in person. Um just because I I mean I knew I was playing well. I knew I was hitting driver really well. Game was rounding rounding out very very well. But um I think hearing that in person from another pro who’s done it for so long. And obviously I’ve known Jason for you know since I was a kid. We used to practice uh he used to actually live at the academy I went to for a couple years really. Um yeah you know whenever I was 13 14 he was practicing at the same place I practiced like every day in Dallas. So I’ve known him for a long time. But hearing that from him in person and just him literally like astonished that I’m not trying it again. It was I think that was a turning point kind of a little validation like okay I I actually am playing good golf again like I actually am you know my my game is getting better like it’s starting to be seen by Jason Day you know he’s he’s asking why I’m not trying it again so I think that was a big validation and um and you know obviously we’ll we’ll see what happens in the future but I’m excited all I can do all I can do is just keep playing good golf um you know keep keep doing great stuff with good good and and just in the videos and all that and then if the sponsor exemptions come if anyone wants to take that risk and you know everyone watching if anybody has a connection I mean I I will not even think about it instant yes I will if I get an email I will reply within a minute and say yes there’s going to be a bunch of fake emails now coming through your email box is going to be exploding maybe a little speaking of exploding I got like what if I like email from like the Masters first ever sponsors exemption. But no, speaking of explo speaking of exploding, one thing that I need to talk about exploding was this freaking drama at the Internet Invitational. So from your perspective, we got to rewind to hole number nine. Okay, final round. Paige goes over to the ball. Matten down the grass. Clearly against the rules. Obviously said she didn’t know that it was against the rules. Fair. I mean, if she if she didn’t know it was against the rules, she didn’t know it was against the rules. Um, Peter walks over to you in the cart and is like, “Hey, just want to let you know.” Like, keep an eye on it. Like, don’t need to say anything. Then Francis is like, “I’m going to say something.” Now, from Francis’s perspective, if I’m Francis in this situation, obviously, and I’ve been told that, you know, I’ve never played competitive golf, I probably would be a little bit petty in the situation. Like, and if I was Francis in that situation, I would be like, “Yeah, I’m definitely going to say something.” And obviously went over, said something. It created this big ordeal and then it was like bang bang. It was like, “Paige is down on the green. I’m watching it. She’s obviously in tears over the situation, really upset, and then all of a sudden Mo just becomes the worst guy on the planet Earth. And like I I said in the last podcast, you would have thought all hell broke loose. But from your perspective, being a guy who’s just trying to focus and win. Mhm. What were you thinking? It was it it was just wild to me. I I didn’t know. So obviously Peter lets me know on number nine after the hole. um kind of lets me know what what was happening and and and I told Francis obviously like and and the good thing I mean we won number nine so I I even I think it was even in the video I told Francis like hey like we won the hole though like maybe we just keep an eye on them you know if they do go in the weeds again maybe we just go kind of just keep a little closer eye you know maybe put a little uh to make sure they don’t do anything else or whatever. Um, and at first I don’t know if it really got shown much in the video, but at first Francis was like, “Yeah, yeah, that’s that’s a good idea. We won the hole. Doesn’t doesn’t really matter.” You know, we we had tied the hole or lost that hole, then it would probably would have something would have happened right then and there, right? So, at first, Francis was actually agreeing with me like, “Yeah, let’s just don’t say anything, not cause any drama. It’s it’s fine. We won the hole.” And then I could literally see his mind just circling for like a minute or two. And I think he immediately got in the the mode like Dave might do something about this. He is a comedian too. Like he knows how to push buttons. Yeah. Yeah, he does. And and I think fair play to him, like to Francis, it’s like he his mindset was if I tell Dave this, he might penalize him a hole. And it was a tied match. Like obviously a whole, you know, getting us a one up lead or something would be huge in that moment. Um so I could definitely see his mind circling a little bit. He finally set his mind on yes, I’m saying something like they might get a penalty and then Francis confronts them and and uh you know obviously that it’s on number 10 Green that was a whole commotion. It it was and I and we we didn’t see the video until you know until the video came out. We didn’t see Paige Matt down the grass and it’s definitely definitely a penalty which I think is it’s tough. It’s a tough situation because we’re all we’ve all play YouTube now and if it was a normal YouTube video, who cares, you know? If I mean, it’s like who really cares? We’re doing like if it was a 3v3 alternate shot on Good, it’s like whatever. Like it’s it’s a YouTube video. It’s um not that big of a deal. Obviously, this is for a million dollars and Paige is play she played D1 golf. She played competitive golf. Like I I would I would like to think she would know that you’re not allowed to do that, but I don’t I don’t know. Maybe she didn’t. I I I don’t know. But then the whole Mo stuff, I I genuinely didn’t know what was going on with Mo the Mo stuff until 11 Green. Yeah, cuz I was locked in like on 10 green, you know, Paige was crying, all that stuff was going on. Really? Wait a second. I need to rewind. You didn’t know until 11? I didn’t know I didn’t know anything about Mo’s happening till 11. That’s That is the definition of locked. Yeah, I because that was a crazy commotion. Yeah, because number 10 green we the page stuff was happening and she you know she was crying and and you know all that and beef ran our putt by like 12 ft. I think also cuz he was kind of losing focus because everything was happening and then for me I like I had to absolutely lock in on that putt cuz it was we would have lost the hole if I missed putt move and I was able to make it. I was able to walk in, make the putt, and I kind of just told myself like, I’m not getting caught up in this. I’m cuz I’m the A player of this team. If I start playing bad, we’re going to be in it’s going to be a tough last eight holes. So, I told I kind of told myself like, I’m going to lock in. I don’t care about the drama. I’m just going to continue to play golf the best I possibly can. And I was just let all that settle itself out. And I was still thinking about the page stuff. I wasn’t I didn’t know about the most stuff. So, I’m I don’t hit the next T-shot. I think hit the pro shot on 11. And then we get up there to the green. And that’s when I found out like I was like Paige was I I thought maybe it was still about Paige cuz she was still like kind of teareyed, but then I hear someone say like someone on the green say like Mo with slope and I was like what happened? And they’re like oh Mo might have had his slope on back there. And that’s when I found out and again I was trying to stay out of it. I just genuinely in that moment did not care. I just wanted to play golf the best I could. I kind of had Francis as my like he was the one that was kind of fighting for like a penalty possibly. So, I kind of had him and I knew my role in that moment was just to play golf the best I can. So, I tried. Yeah. I mean, and yeah, I just didn’t want to get caught in the drama and um and obviously looking back at all all of it now, it’s it’s it’s a lot. And it was crazy how it was like back to back. Like it wasn’t there was no holes in between. It literally went straight from the page ordeal to straight to Mo. Um but in in that moment, I I literally had like no clue what was going on. Like there’s one point where I saw like Brendan was showing everyone the video on his camera on his laptop and like 20 people were gathered around the car. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was crazy. And I’m just I I was on the I was on the T- boxes watching it. Like I knew that was going on, but I’m not going to get involved in that. Like I just wanted to focus on what I was doing and focus on playing golf the best I could cuz I knew the only chance that we had to win was if I really locked in and played well come down the stretch. Yeah, that’s smart. That was your role on the team and you filled that role. I think it was. Yeah, it was a little weird watching it unfolded because now I’ve I’ve read a lot of the comments now, too. And I want to say there’s, you know, there’s a lot of people very anti-Mo. They’re fighting against Mo and then there’s a lot of people backing him up. And I’ve seen tons of screenshots and I’ve not seen one time where the slope was on. So, it’s one of those things from our perspective, there’s no way of really telling. It’s just, you know, Mo stood by his word if if he really, you know, he believes he never had slope on. It’s like Dave said in the video, you can’t you can’t look at someone say, “Hey, swear to God that you didn’t have slope on.” He does it. And then still be like you had slope on in that moment. You just have to you have to trust it. And I’ve still to this I mean to the second I haven’t seen where he had the slope on. I’d be curious to see if that ever happens. I know we are going to have Mo on the podcast or I’m going to and I’ll interview him a little bit more about they’ve been calling it slope gate. Slope gate. Slope gate. It’s ridiculous. It’s been getting out of hand. Any controversy ever, you just add a gate to the end of it. Slope. I think I mean Yeah, I think it’s crazy. Slope gate. Wild. Um I I think I mean I can see both ways. It’s like I mean obviously I’ve seen the screenshots too of like slope’s not on and the devil’s advocate to that is like well maybe he was turning it on during shots and off after. Yeah. Um which maybe he was maybe he wasn’t. I genuinely don’t know. And um there’s also just how he was kind of acting through it all. Like is the way he kind of freaked out like it’s a little sketchy. And again, maybe that’s just because all of a sudden everyone’s like, “Mo, slow, mo, slow, and he already like something has already said the part three course earlier in the day.” Like maybe that was him just like feeling like everyone was about to gang up on him. Like I I don’t know. And I think, you know, and I I’ve been saying it. I said it in the video I released. Like I genuinely don’t know. I would hope he didn’t. Yeah. Like I really would. And but I just don’t know what to think cuz I mean it’s it’s something that only he knows. Yeah. It’s like cuz he might have had it off the whole time. That’s why the screenshots show the slopes off or we might have been turning on during the shots. We don’t know that. There’s no way for us to know. And I think it’s something that he himself is the only person that truly knows. And I just want to stay out of it. I agree. You know, in the best way possible and and you know, I I I for sure would hope that he would not do that when we’re compete for a million dollars and he might not have been. So I you know, I think I think a lot of the the heat’s unfair. I mean, again, he kind of mentioned it. It’s like he said, “Hey, you can come at me all you want. Just don’t come after like family members and all that.” And I think that’s so valid. It’s like I agree. His family members had nothing to do with they weren’t at the event. They weren’t there. They just they are just his family. So like why are you coming after the family? Like some people are just wild for that. So I don’t know. It’s it’s a whole crazy situation. And yeah. Um, I just I he’s he’s I think he’s the only one that knows exactly what happened at the What I was just gonna say it was mentioned in the we were watching it at the warehouse and like one of our editors, Jacob, was like, “Why didn’t they just give people slopeless?” Like, it’s such a huge event. Yeah. Well, slope, there should never have been a rule in the first place. It’s not It’s not that I mean, at the end of the day, like, Slope is not that big of a deal. It was a big deal only because Dave obviously made it a big deal at the beginning which again if it’s a rule it’s a rule you have to abide abide by it and that’s the way golf works. I think it’s what you said though golf is a game of integrity. At the end of the day I think the fans people at home anybody who watched it unfold I understand that everybody’s going to have opinions on everything. At the end of the day, it just needs to probably get let go because it’s like you said, he’s the only one that knows in this moment. He is currently the only one that knows if he had slope on or not. Let I mean, just let it be. You know, if he did or if he didn’t, it’s not for us to decide. You know, obviously, if his team had won, this controversy might be going on for a long time. Yeah. like that it it’d be Yeah, I think Francis would have would have like retaliated on it. I think I think it would really been really bad. So, at the end of the day, it’s like me, Beef, and Francis won. And if you’re, you know, if you’re attacking him or attacking his family over at all, you were probably rooting for us anyway once all the drama kind of unfolded. So, it’s like it’s, you know, his team didn’t win. they they the slope ended up not causing them to win or whether he had it on or whether he didn’t have it on. So, it’s like yeah, I think it’s it’s it’s a it’s a drama that I think a lot of people can attach to for a few days, but it just needs to be dropped at the I mean, at some point soon hopefully. It’s just, you know, it didn’t cause a different um result in the tournament. And I don’t know, again, it’s only he knows. I none of what we say on on X or on Instagram, whatever. Nothing will get resolved by what we say or by what we speculate. It’s just he’s the only one that’s ever going to know about it. So, yeah, I mean, it’ll it’ll it’ll blow over eventually, but we’ll also see cuz we’re going to have Mo on the podcast here next week. So, um be curious to see what he has to say. But um for sure agree especially on the family member hate and stuff like that. I think that’s a little insane. Um but you know getting past that let’s get into one last thing about the internet invitational and then a few more things and we’ll wrap up this podcast. So Luke Quan uh back in the U days did you ever hear any stories of this man sleeping through alarms? Is this like a common thing? Because I know in your situation in the NFL Invitational, your whole team’s freaking thrilled. Yeah, you guys are pumped that Luke decided to sleep through his alarm. Yeah, he was MVP to our our team that day. Um I was pissed. All of us were pissed. Yeah, understandably. It’s So, yeah. I mean, I was at OU with Quan for one year. He was a senior and I was a freshman. And I think like those those articles came out about like Coach Hibble getting onto him and like I wanted to hear about this from your perspective. I don’t think I was there at that time. I think that was like when he was like a sophomore or junior. So, I wasn’t there for that. Um, and Quan’s always been he’s always he’s just Quan. Like anybody who knows him, it’s just like you’re not going to meet anyone else like Quan and he’s always been that way. Um, but I mean I like when I was in school, he I I didn’t know him like that well. We all hung out a lot, but I’d say, you know, cuz I was a freshman, I didn’t know the seniors like super well. they were like, you know, the the big dogs on the team. They’re the older guys. Um, but obviously I practiced with them and traveled with him and all that, but he he definitely had his like Kananisms, but he also did he also I like that he also did a very good job his senior year, I think, of I think he really pulled himself together a lot and like made himself a leader of that team just being a senior. I think he really took that role well. So, wasn’t super close with him in college, but I think he he did a good job his senior year of being a leader. Um, he still had his downfalls just like anyone does. But, um, I I think he, you know, my first impression of him in OU, I never remember I don’t remember him ever sleeping through anything. I I think he had learned I think he had learned his lesson cuz I saw that article. I was like, I wonder if Brad had any experiences with I I remember hearing stories like Coach Hill would always talk about how Quan like loves to sleep and he did love his sleep in college for sure, but I don’t think he ever like slept through anything cuz I think he knew he’s on such a tight leash like if he started doing that again then like his position with the team was not safe necessarily with coach Hibble because coach Hibble’s very much he’s like a coach Hibble’s like a football coach almost coaching golf like he’s very you kind of need that. Yeah, you do. Yeah, he’s very very like strict. Like he’s he’s the type of guy that if you’re on his good side, he is the absolute best. Like just such a good guy. Will push you to be better every single day, but if you’re on his bad side, he is the scariest human alive. Like if he he has a certain he has a certain look that he he’ll give you and you literally somehow you just like crap yourself as soon as he gives you that look. Um, so I think he he had kind of cleaned himself up a little bit uh by his senior year by the time I got there. But he definitely still liked to sleep. And I mean I don’t I don’t know. I mean he he does travel a ton. He likes to sleep. He he does travel a ton now. He’s traveling all over the place. And I guess bro needs a coffee sponsor or something like Luke lock in. Get like He needs a coffee sponsor. An alarm clock sponsor. Yes. I don’t know. Everything to wake you up. Like that’s what you need. You need to like do a bit where someone walks into your room with an air horn cuz holy crap. Gosh. But he I mean he was the MVP to our team. We we that was a point that y’all should have easily had and it was a two two-point swing. Again, like the way the final match ended up that first day, like point-wise, it wouldn’t have mattered, but I know the mindset and pairings would have been different going in the afternoon. It could have been a different game. Like it really it could have cuz I I mean the pairings changed like we we did pairings like as if we were up 10 to six. Yeah. Like we were or whatever whatever it was. I mean 24 matches. It was you guys were up a lot. Yeah. We’re up a lot and um we made pairings comp you know because we were up a lot and if it was you know a two-point swing that y’all had won that match in the morning then the pairings would have been different and who knows what would have happened. So dude and it was Yeah. I think it was like 8 to I don’t know. It was It was a lot too little after that. 12 matches. It was 8 to four. I think it was it was a lot too little and it should have easily it should have been seven to five or whatever it should have been. I can’t remember. Yeah. I think that was the one thing where obviously, you know, we probably wouldn’t have won if he won his match. But in our minds, we’re all like, “What could have been if only our team morale was up, everyone showed up to their tea times, and we were all like positive vibes before teoff because it was right before we teed off, everyone’s just pissed off.” Yeah. And our vibes are just down and every everyone’s just mad. And that’s where, you know, respect to you on the final round just locking in. Even though there was all this drama for our team, we didn’t have that mental capacity apparently. And you know, I lost my first match by a lot with Nate Shaw and then won the second match by a lot. But the first match, like the front nine, we just were down. Yeah. And that was another instance where I didn’t know what was going on because I got there early. I was on like the shuttle with with Bubby who he was in that match. Obviously, he had to get there a little earlier. And I was like, “That’s fine. I’ll just get there and eat breakfast and hang out, whatever.” So, I was putting with Chandler. I was playing with Chandler that day. I was putting in with on the putting green by the first tee and I heard one of the starters say, “Have you seen Lacoan anywhere?” And I’m like, “No, I haven’t.” And that was right before I got in the cart cuz we were going to go to the range and me and Chandler like I during all this commotion, I was literally like working with Chandler on his bunker game and like giving him lessons on the range. Nice. So I like we were there like two hours early. So there’s another instance where I kind of felt like I was lucky in a way. I was like away from the drama. all that stuff was going on because I I mean I knew they were looking for Quan, but I didn’t know that he actually misses tea time and he got like a four-hole penalty and all that. Um I was just on the range that’s like a half a mile away from the clubhouse, you know, just doing my own thing with Chandler. Do you think that was the right ruling from a tournament perspective? I This is another thing that I’ve read in the comments where everyone’s like, “Why did Dave penalize him so many holes? They had zero chance of winning the match.” Technically speaking, if you miss a certain amount of time, isn’t it a DQ? Yeah, if it was a national it should have just been a loss of a match and which it basically was. Yeah. I mean it. So I think if it was cuz my my mom’s rules official and she was all over it. I’m pretty sure she told me she was. Yeah, she was. Um I’m pretty sure she told me that since it was scramble technically he should have been DQed and it should have been PFT against Frankie and Bubby which which would have been it basically end up being that way. So basically that’s what it was. I think I mean it’s a matter of not having you know the rule sheet and I mean we had a little rule sheet but didn’t cover everything and that’s a matter of just you know I think next year there has to be either neither needs to either be a full-on like YouTube event or like actually have some rules structure in place and I think they will I think they probably learned their lesson and make sure they have kind of everything all their ducks in a row but um so I mean technically he should have been DQed Yeah, but and he I mean he pretty much was. I mean he I guess he had a chance technically to you know be four, you know, four down with five to go, but um everyone’s saying that like that you know he should have just played as soon as he got there. It’s like well if you actually want to go by the rules of golf, he’s DQed, but I don’t know. It’s it’s a gray area. Obviously I think all the drama with Dave and like his decision, it all comes down to the fact that they didn’t have the plans in place to, you know, in case something like that happens. So, I think they’ll have they’ll have that next year and that way there’s Yeah. like maybe a full-on rules committee and USGA officials and stuff like that and whatnot. But even just get a just get a if they just got a rule sheet written up by a USGA official. Yeah. Then that thing any questions that they have, they can just go back to rule sheet and and yeah, know what to do. So, that’s a good point. Well, I don’t want this whole podcast to only be internet invitational talk and stuff like that. I know we’ve talked a little bit about you getting into pro golf and whatnot like that, but you know, with this being such a big year and obviously competing in these events, winning that amount of money and whatnot like that, I almost want to take it back a little bit before we wrap up this this podcast. And cuz I know that you have been through the I don’t know if trauma is the right word, but you’ve been through the struggles of pro golf. you’ve seen the bad side of the game and now you’re getting to like see the good sides of the game and see how fun golf actually is. But I kind of want to go back to, you know, obviously you grew up playing junior golf with who we spoke about against these pros and we’re very good in junior golf. Fast forward to college, have a good college career, end up winning a national championship, and then after college you pursue the pro golf. I want to talk to you I I want you to talk about that just because again you went through struggles and you went through years of it not working. What would you say the lowest part of your career in golf has been and how has that impacted like where you are today? Yeah, I mean yeah just I mean like little backstory you already mentioned a little bit junior golf I was from the time I was like 13 to 18 I was ranked top five in the world like out of all ages. Wow. and just I I mean I I was lucky because I did grow basically to this size when I was like 12. So I had a little advantage on some of the the smaller kids uh pretty early, but I was just I mean golf was it was like easy back then. Like I I just never remember hitting it bad. Obviously I probably probably did, but like it was like my bad days were still for a junior golfer like really good. Back then I couldn’t putt. Like back then I would get top 10 in like every event because my ball striking and whether I won or not was all dependent on whether I made putts or not. Really? Pretty. Yeah. I I I learned I learned how to putt when I was hitting the ball like a 10 handicapper basically cuz I had to butt well or else or else I was going to shoot 85 flip- flopped for a second. So then right before college I started having some struggles with driver but everything else was fine. And then throughout college, I kind of battled like my junior year in the national championship at Oklahoma State’s course, Carson Creek. It’s like one of the most intimidating courses to hit the ball off the tea. Like 40 yard wide fairways, but if you miss a fairway, you’re it’s literally like OB. It’s just lost ball. So it’s very intimidating. I didn’t hit a single driver the entire national championship that week. Um so your drivers said started in college. They started in college and they were very off and on. Yeah, they were very off and on. Like the USM was a week where I kind of found something with my driver and I got really confident and I was swinging as hard as I wanted to, but they were very off and on. So like national championship that year and my junior year, not the one we won. Um my junior year didn’t hit a single driver all week. Got 11th because I just I luckily the driver was bad, but everything else was still really good. Oh, that’s good. So like I could if I need to I could just hit through it all week and be fine. Really? Okay. So that’s a shock to me. You’re saying you’re going from literally a wood to a wood and still hitting it good. I thought you would have said like maybe a two iron or something like I hit great. How? I I don’t I think it’s just the ball being teed lower getting more cuz I was very steep. So like being able to get steep and I could just hit a make a divot with throughwood and and be fine. Um and in college sometime like sometimes it was great like a driver was great and I was confident. Sometimes it was just awful where I literally would hit it 80 yards right or 80 yards left, you know, at any given moment. Wow. So then I was able to kind of get through I didn’t have as good of a college career as I wanted to. We won the team national championship. Um made it to the final or the match play every single year. So like as a team we did fantastic. Um but individually I won two events. One was a regional that um was a big one for for me to win. But that’s good. I didn’t you know do I didn’t have a great college career. It was not as good as I wanted. It was it was it was good. But um I you know I think going into college I had the talent to be like a four team all or four time all-American all that and didn’t quite pan out. That’s I mean we still won team national championship which is something I’ll remember forever and it we had great time. Coach Hibble’s the best at OU and how similar sorry to interrupt but how similar is like winning a national championship to something you just experienced because you had a team like winning as a team’s got to be crazy. Yeah I mean I think it’s very similar. I think obviously that championship is a little bit more special just because like it was a whole season long of like grinding like practicing with these guys, working out with them at 6:00 a.m. like all the the es and flows that go with like being with a team like and all of that accumulated into winning the biggest thing we could win. Like so obviously that will be the most special thing maybe I’ve ever done in golf just because of the team aspect and like those are your boys and you you fought for them they fought for me and we ended up winning it all. So I think that’s still going to take the cake obviously but um so college I get done with college and I realized like look I need to fix this driver issue if I want to actually have a pro career I need to be able to hit the driver well. and me trying to fix my driver ended up making it worse and made everything else worse. So, I was going through moments where like I was playing mini tour events on easy courses and hitting like two fairways around and four greens around. Whoa. Like it it was I had to pull on like I could not swing like so many days the golf club felt like it was a like a pool noodle in my hands. Like it felt foreign because I didn’t know because I was trying I was working on so many things and it was miserable. I mean, it was a time where like my, you know, sadly my whole identity had been like golf and now I was losing that cuz like I was I mean I was I’d say if I kept a handicap during those like bad years I was probably like a two handicap. Wow. Like legitimately. What are you now? Plus eight. So I mean and that’s not even like I was legitimately probably a two two handicap with how bad I was. Someone needs to make an edit to that. It’s like I was two handed gap. What’s your handicap now? Plus eight and then edit that. That That’s crazy. You literally I think you literally just did this on the table. Think I didn’t know. I mean, I don’t know how to react to that. That’s actually insane. Eight is plus eight. I mean, that’s a lot. That’s legit. Like that’s every single 18ole round I play I put in there and it’s legit. But um yeah, and it I mean it drove me I mean like I don’t know. I mean, it’s some some people are finding out now, like I’m almost 3 years sober and that’s because I my identity was so wrapped up in golf and there was some other personal stuff going on, but like I kind of led to like a drinking problem that, you know, luckily with the help of family and friends like got over that and um got through that luckily. I mean, it’s just crazy how like things have worked out in life now. God has blessed me so much through all of it because I literally went from almost dying from drinking to, you know, getting sober three months later, meeting you guys, getting involved with Good, you know, almost immediately. Like I started going on trips like right after I met you guys and then all of a sudden it’s kind of led to this. So it’s crazy how just everything’s worked out and um yeah, I mean it’s it was it was a low time. I mean it was literally I mean when people get driven to drinking that much usually it’s a very low point in their lives. So it it was it was tough. My whole identity was golf and I was losing that because I was playing so bad and but it’s all it’s all worked out now. So that’s what you think with drinking obviously if you don’t mind me asking like um whole identity being golf and that not going well. Do you feel like that’s what led to the heavy drinking? Yeah, for sure. And there was some other personal stuff as well, like relationship wise. But, um, yeah, I mean, it was it was full on like I felt like, you know, which is a it’s a good lesson to learn for other people if you’re in the same way. It’s like if your whole identity is isn’t something that could be taken away from you in an instant, then you should change where your identity is. Cuz I mean, golf doesn’t owe anybody anything. Like, my identity was in golf and it started going poorly. I started playing terrible. And when your identity is wrapped into something that you’re not doing well at or it’s not going well, then that’s when you’re going to turn to something that’s more reliable, you know, like getting drunk or getting whatever. It’s like I can I could rely on that at the time. And that was um that’s what I went towards. So I think How bad was it? It was not good. It was it was a lot. I mean it was like morning time like all that. So it was it was bad. Luckily, it didn’t go on for I mean, it went on for maybe like 6 months or 7 months, something like that. I forget exactly how long, but so long time still, but um luckily got through it all and came out, you know, better on the other side because I never had issues with it before. I think it was just a lot of a lot of stuff just piling on at the same time just kind of led to it. What what do you feel like cuz everybody I feel like who’s ever had a problem with drugs or alcohol has a moment where it was like almost a kick in the nuts where they’re like, “Wait a second. This needs to change.” Yeah. I mean, when was that for you? Yeah. I won’t go too much into detail about it, but I mean, I literally almost died from it, you know, not not driving or anything like that. I will say that wasn’t driving or anything putting other people at risk. So, um, yeah, almost died from it, like literally. So, it was that’s a moment when, you know, obviously when you sometimes you need that like rock bottom to really realize you, you know, there’s an issue and almost dying is about about as rock bottom as it gets. So, but again, I mean, I’m I’m grateful for it, too. It’s not like I’m, you know, embarrassed by it. I think a lot of people struggle with stuff like that, and I’m just one of the many. And I think my story can help others that are in need that needs someone, you know, kind of like a role model be like, “Hey, they got through it. They’re on the other side doing great.” It’s like, I’m not embarrassed by it by any means. I’m grateful that it happened cuz I learned a lot about myself. I learned a lot about just life in general and how you can’t be putting all your eggs into a basket that can be stolen from you and at any time, you know, identity wise and all that. So, yeah, it’s uh it’s, you know, it was it was a ride. It was a tough one, but I’m glad I went on it and now now we’re here. I mean, life is life is great now. Getting to play getting to play golf still, you know, stress free. And it’s been it’s been awesome. Yeah. Well, that’s I it’s a good perspective to have looking back at that and being grateful for it because I, you know, everyone’s past leads them to their to where they’re at. And you were talking about how like God had a little bit of an impact on this as well. Um, you know, when you say you got sober within, you said it was within 3 months of meeting. Yeah. So, I got sober December 12th and I played with y’all. It’s like February 27th. It was like I was like one of the last days of February. That is I literally gives me chills honestly. That’s the wild that’s insane. It’s crazy too cuz like I talk about with Colin some too cuz sometimes Colin will just be like I still can’t believe like everything worked out and like you played with us like at Oak Tree that day. But like I always tell him, um, so funny story. So my brother Tommy is a huge Good fan. He’s been a good Good fan forever. And like before I met you guys, like I knew who Good Good was. Like I wasn’t an idiot. I’d seen the clips of Sharf making horn ones, all that stuff. I mean, we Well, when we made Yeah. Yeah. It wasn’t Shar. It was just Good in general. Yeah. We made Yeah, we um but like I knew who Good was and Tommy always bugged me about it. He’s like, “Dude, you need to start watching Good Good. like it’s it’s fun. I’m like, Tommy, I just got done practicing golf for seven hours. I don’t feel like watching more golf. Like I want to watch something completely different. But um once so like literally about 3 weeks before I met you guys, I watched the first good video. I was like screw it. Like I’ll try it. And I like was hooked immediately. It wasn’t it wasn’t anything like I thought it was going to be. I thought I didn’t know what YouTube Golf really wasn’t. I didn’t know if it was like instructional or what. But like it was fun. Like I enjoyed watching. I’m like, damn. I watched like a ton of videos for those like two or three weeks and I knew like like kind of ins and outs of everyone. Like I knew Bubby lined up 100 yards, right? I knew Steve was kind of like the loose cannon that you know, whatever. And I like I just knew everyone a little better. I didn’t know anybody personally except for Quan, but I knew everyone’s kind of stickick, you know? So, whenever I met you guys, like it helped a ton, which I again, if I look back on that video, I probably was like so bashful and like quiet still, but like I I knew I knew everyone enough to where like I could call you by name. I could Yeah, I kind of knew the dynamics of the group, which I think probably helped me a lot with just knowing knowing that knowing I wasn’t getting thrown into something I didn’t know anything about. So that’s a God thing, I think, just watching Good Good literally for the first time three weeks before I met you guys. And then on the way to that course, I remember there’s a Subway like a mile from the course and it was lunchtime and I was just going to go grab Subway and then go to the course and like last second before I passed the turn to Oak Tree, for some reason I was like screw it, I’ll just eat at the course and turned in. Like there was no like reasoning behind it. I was just like screw it. Like I just turned left and went to the course and then but if I had gone to Subway because y’all were about to tee off. If I had gone to Subway, y’all are probably like on Whole two by the time I get there and probably never play with you guys, never meet you. Probably would have never happened honestly. So there’s so many like little things that I look back on now I’m like it was literally all leading to like me being a part of this group, me getting to play YouTube golf still, getting to like show my talents to everyone and like use my talents to make somewhat of, you know, some kind of difference. So pretty crazy to look back on, but there’s a lot of little things that had to happen. Yeah, because we never do stuff like that either. We don’t like ever really I mean you’ve been a part of it for now multiple years and you never just ask someone like hey oh that guy on the ping let’s go have it never happens and when we met you guys and we decided to film it was like the most spur-of-the- moment thing and by whole I think by the end of hole one I was like Brad’s got it we need to sign him now I told Colin that right away I was like Brad is it is it wild and I think it’s like you said there’s definitely some truth to probably be told in the fact that you had watched good good and you kind of knew how to interact interact with us cuz we just knew like when we were filming with you I was like he just seems like one of the boys like he he’s not nervous he’s not like acting weird on camera he seems very comfortable obviously you’re way more comfortable now than you were then but even then you were like a seasoned vet from what it felt like yeah I mean we got to got to sign him right now it didn’t feel that way I was I was honestly that first T-shot I hit on at Oak Tree was I was so freaking nervous but it was wild like cuz I I got to the course, saw Quan’s big old head with the get a head on. And I went up and like I’m and I wasn’t like going to talk to him like obviously trying to get in a video or anything. I just hadn’t seen Quan like two or three years and I was like, “Oh, there’s Quan.” Like I’ll go say hi to him, talk to him, see how he’s doing. I hadn’t seen him since his head injury. Um, so I was just talking to him, catching up, you know, for a couple minutes. And then all of a sudden, I think it was you. You’re like, “Hey, you you want to play today? You want to play in the video?” I’m like, “That was crazy.” Yeah, sure. I I have nothing better to do. So, um played and then we did another one the next day. Kind of set up that like good get versus pros and then and then Yeah. Then we went to We beat you guys. Then we went to Yeah, we did. Oh my gosh. Sharp on number five at Oak Tree. I will never forget the shot. 280 yards. Stone cold like tops his three-wood. Like literally like and of course he probably played off. I was like, “Oh yeah, that intentional stinger there. I was trying to get a stinger and it rolled up. There’s like but in front of that green cuz it was a par five. There’s like a three yard gap in front of the green of fairways. Literally wors. Yeah. Worm burner rolls up the gap almost goes in makes an eagle. We need birdie.” And that was the difference in the match. Literally was I remember that. 280 yard bump and run from Sharp. Little worm burner. When did you make the decision? When did you make the decision that you were like, “All right, it’s time. We’re hanging up the sticks for pro golf. We’re doing YouTube golf. I mean, it was short after that because I I mean, obviously y’all sponsored me with the apparel and I really only had enough money to like give it one more pro or one more shot at PJ Tour Canada. So, I played like after we met, I played one more mini tour event and then I went to PJ Tour Canada. Played okay, but I didn’t make it through. I missed it by like two or three. And that’s when I started talking to you. I was like, “Look, I might have enough money to like, you know, do one more summer of like mini tour events and maybe try corn school, but I was like, I was running out of money.” Like my the sponsor, I had a guy help me out for three years and he was so gracious and, you know, he even is kind of the point where he’s like, “Okay, like we we got to stop helping like nothing’s really coming of this.” And I was like, “No, completely understand.” And I mean, it’s like he helped me out so much for those three years. But um it was pretty soon after that. I mean I I I started realizing cuz we went to Dalhusi together and that trip was freaking awesome. We went to uh Scottsdale for the good good championship. Yep. And then Chicago I think was the next one. And I just had legitimately had so much it was like I I was having fun playing golf again cuz even at that point golf was very stressful. Like I was working on things. Game was trending in the right direction but it was still very very stressful. And I think it got to the point where I’m like, this is like I’m having fun playing like this is bringing the fun back into golf for me. And that was that was enjoyable. Like I hadn’t felt that way since I was like a junior golfer. It had always been stressful. So I think once I realized that then obviously like the financial situation was not I just couldn’t try pro golf much longer. I was like I got to the point where I was like okay like if they want me like I am all all here for it. So yeah. Wow. But that’s crazy. and now winning $453,000 in one year. Things have changed. Like it’s it’s it is wild to think back to everything that you’re saying and seeing where like even in general YouTube golf is where it’s going to go and I think it’s really cool that obviously I mean we spoke a lot about the internet invitational today but like uh what bars put on the creator classics and all the different things that I feel like will come out of YouTube golf in the future. Uh, I’ll be curious to see where it goes because where it’s at right now from my perspective, I never imagined it getting to this point ever. It’s crazy to think back to like the beginning days of good good even like when you join Good. Like there was none of this. None of this was happening. No. And now you have opportunities to compete for a million dollars. So, um, be curious to see where it goes in the next few years. I think we might look back at like in a couple years we might look back at this internet invitational and be like that was the turning point. Yeah. Of YouTube golf because the viewership I’m going to take I’m going to give a hot take. Okay, real quick. Sorry. Devil’s advocate. I think it’s either the turning point or the downfall. Why do you think downfall? The only reason I would say it could be a downfall is how do we go up from here? Yeah, that’s my only question is like you know what is it? Is it a YouTube golf tour? Is it? Which, by the way, do you say tour or tour or tour? Tour. Tour. See, Bryson says tour. He was He was really getting on me about it. I didn’t really like tournament. Did he say tournament? He says tournament. I was like, you just sound sophisticated like you’re like it’s too much. Sounds like a Cali thing. Yeah. Right. But anyways, I just I wonder. It’s like it’s either we’re going to get to a point where, you know, maybe there’s a tour. Gosh. Or something like that. um or you know, can we go up from there? That’s my question. I think that’s not it’s not a hot take. It’s more of a a opening accomplishation. That’s valid. I think I think this just showed I mean like I saw some tweets about like the viewership numbers for this compared to like big PJ tour like maybe not big PJ tours, but just PJ tours in general. Like it’s crazy the amount of viewers that are watching YouTube golf right now. Yeah. I think this this event might have been the one where, you know, again, I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes with like networks and all that, but this might be the one where they’re like, “Oh crap, like we better pay attention to what we’re doing. We better be careful with what we’re doing because YouTube Golf is is gaining a lot of traction.” Absolutely. So, don’t know what I literally have no even estimations or like I don’t know what the future looks like for everything, but I mean, I think this event probably opened some eyeballs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it sure did. And I mean, it went amazing. So, you got anything else that you want to touch on or I don’t think so. I mean, I appreciate you having me on. This is a good good podcast. I’m excited. I’m excited for this. I think this is I mean, obviously, I think there are some things in plans right now for good that we’re we’re all getting pumped for. Um, and obviously I think the podcast is going to be kind of kind of Garrett’s thing and I know he’s pumped for it and excited. So, make sure you go subscribe to this channel if you have not already. I’ll give my backing. I’m always here to hop on if you need me if I’m in town. Also, go subscribe to Brad’s socials. They’re going to be linked in the description down below. And like Brad said, there’s going to be some things that are uh with the good good content and channels and whatnot that you guys will be seeing popping up. So, just stay tuned. Um, Brad, appreciate you coming on the podcast for me. Thank you. Uh, what a wonderful interview and shout out to the Internet Invitational. Everything else, we appreciate you guys tuning in to this podcast wherever you’re listening, Spotify, YouTube, wherever it may be. Um, yeah, I think we’re going to close it out there. Let’s make this the biggest podcast even over Rogan.