1. Bro has sneakers on 2. There are multiple similar videos showing the exact opposite result – if the green isn’t absolutely perfect, some balls will go in and some won’t 3. He’s most likely correct though, you miss more because you suck than you miss because of the greens
Kesnei
Look I’m a 20 handicap, it’s never my fault when I miss a 2 foot tap in.
BrettHullsBurner
This video makes way more sense than the one saying to blame the imperfections because he was releasing a lot of the golf balls differently causing side spin. Obviously there can be shitty greens and marks that cause you to occasionally miss a putt that would have otherwise gone in. But to have it in the back of your mind after every missed putt of “well, surely that one is on the green and not on me” is just silly.
Background-Sock4950
From like 5 feet out, 100% agree. From > 5 feet out? Lots of variation possible.
redleg50
Take a look at the greens at the course I usually play and tell me they don’t matter. Lol. Needless to say, they don’t look like this.
LanguageAntique9895
Yes, most putts are missed due to not hitting the correct line or speed…this guy is a genius
nking05
More people on this sub are missing due to a skill issue and not a green issue, myself included.
dumptruckulent
My thoughts? I’m bad at golf. Anything else you’d like to know?
YouDaManInDaHole
there are no real imperfections there lol
Daddynatedogg3
Now do the greens at my course.
86takoyaki86
I missed because I need a new driver tbh.
ruralrouteOne
I always find it funny that so many people at my course complain about imperfections in the greens causing them to miss, but they never consider those imperfections might cause them to hit putts too. It’s not like they’re starting putts on the perfect line every time with perfect weight.
cjod86
Run this experiment on a 20 foot putt and post the video.
behinduushudlook
you missed because of speed and green read. what else would i think? or what else would i have thought for 40 years? i’ve legitimately been more mad at a bare spot hippity hop than myself less than a handful of times. it’s definitely prevented my ball from ‘steering’ as i intended more than a handful of times, but i just don’t get bothered about it. i know what i’m paying for 18 usually
BigSchloppy34
pop a fat piece of goose shit in the line. That’s the kind of literal shit I’m putting through at my local course
PackagingMSU
Okay show it up hill and with actual cleats.
FruitMustache
He “scuffed” it up with his sneakers, then tamped it back down. So *what* imperfections are we talking about here?
Soft_Owl7535
The fat fucks I golf with would leave a bigger divot
AdmirableGear6991
He needs to roll the balls over an old hole or a few unrepaired/repaired ball marks, for a true case study.
Appropriate-Food1757
Well yeah. Duh
Joates87
I was mentally distracted because you walked in my line!!!
Intheswing
You should try putting after the 300 pounder in our league. He walks off his putt and “aim points” right through your line. 1/8” deep foot prints minimum. Then he makes a pivot just to make sure it’s really tore up. Best part is he has no clue what he is doing but still does it for every putt – and misses 85% of the short putts – almost never makes anything over 10 feet. Watching him walk off a 5 ‘ putt and then “aim point” is almost comical.
prplx
I never ever blame the greens for a missed putt. I always blame my putter.
poopinion
Ummm, that looks like a pretty damned nice green. So depends on the green. Add some seedlings, some deep ball marks, a few leaves, maybe a cigarette, a clump of sand or 2, and boom. You’ve got pinball.
I’ve always thought of it like, don’t freak the fuck out if you aren’t holing putts outside of 8-10 feet. Just try and get it close and be happy if you can tap it in for a 2 putt.
Marmstr17
nahh
beebstx
No. We blame Phil every time; Phil is our pin setter.
cyberbro256
That’s fine, but the stuff that drives me crazy is when there is a subtle increase in elevation near the hole and it curves at the last 6 inches, or when you hit it slowly and it just happens to catch a piece of grass just right to not quite go in by like 1/2 inch.
Getting a good speed is key to match the right reading. I find it very tough!
xjaaace
Now do it at 30 different courses on every hole…
Reg_doge_dwight
Not sure this proves anything. Only takes a small imperfect to throw it off line.
JWOLFBEARD
Now do this over the corduroy bladed and sanded greens
Ordinary_Monitor_607
Used to play golf with an optometrist who concluded my eyes didn’t suck, my putting skills did.. 🫣
WithoutCaution
There appears to be a very slight indentation, about 8ish inches long, leading into the hole. You can see that one or two of the balls look to be moving fast enough to lip out, but then they snap back into the line at the last second. Combine that with all the other stuff people are pointing out, and I’m gonna pile into the “this-is-bullshit” crowd.
highcaliberwit
I’ve seen similar videos and like half miss. Soooo
theneZenMaster
Catch the edge of a dent and things might change. These greens are too good for a bad patch to exist. But hit a poorly fixed ball mark or unevenly cut section of grass and things start to get erratic.
Admirable-Lecture255
Nope not at my course where the green says there’s a break but doesnt.
DOUBLE_DOINKED
Nah, it’s obviously the wrong moon phase. That’s why I 3 putted. I’m more of a waxing crescent kinda guy.
Mike_Honcho_3
I would agree. If I miss a putt, I would have made it if I had the right speed and line
enigmaticpeon
What else is there besides speed and read? Lmao
Truant_20X6
Thanks, I’m acutely aware.
Either_Tie4032
I also miss because of bad face control and poor path. So there’s that.
GR3TSCH
I missed because I don’t have one of those doohickeys
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Once I miss, I’ll let you know.
1. Bro has sneakers on
2. There are multiple similar videos showing the exact opposite result – if the green isn’t absolutely perfect, some balls will go in and some won’t
3. He’s most likely correct though, you miss more because you suck than you miss because of the greens
Look I’m a 20 handicap, it’s never my fault when I miss a 2 foot tap in.
This video makes way more sense than the one saying to blame the imperfections because he was releasing a lot of the golf balls differently causing side spin. Obviously there can be shitty greens and marks that cause you to occasionally miss a putt that would have otherwise gone in. But to have it in the back of your mind after every missed putt of “well, surely that one is on the green and not on me” is just silly.
From like 5 feet out, 100% agree. From > 5 feet out? Lots of variation possible.
Take a look at the greens at the course I usually play and tell me they don’t matter. Lol. Needless to say, they don’t look like this.
Yes, most putts are missed due to not hitting the correct line or speed…this guy is a genius
More people on this sub are missing due to a skill issue and not a green issue, myself included.
My thoughts? I’m bad at golf. Anything else you’d like to know?
there are no real imperfections there lol
Now do the greens at my course.
I missed because I need a new driver tbh.
I always find it funny that so many people at my course complain about imperfections in the greens causing them to miss, but they never consider those imperfections might cause them to hit putts too. It’s not like they’re starting putts on the perfect line every time with perfect weight.
Run this experiment on a 20 foot putt and post the video.
you missed because of speed and green read. what else would i think? or what else would i have thought for 40 years? i’ve legitimately been more mad at a bare spot hippity hop than myself less than a handful of times. it’s definitely prevented my ball from ‘steering’ as i intended more than a handful of times, but i just don’t get bothered about it. i know what i’m paying for 18 usually
pop a fat piece of goose shit in the line. That’s the kind of literal shit I’m putting through at my local course
Okay show it up hill and with actual cleats.
He “scuffed” it up with his sneakers, then tamped it back down. So *what* imperfections are we talking about here?
The fat fucks I golf with would leave a bigger divot
He needs to roll the balls over an old hole or a few unrepaired/repaired ball marks, for a true case study.
Well yeah. Duh
I was mentally distracted because you walked in my line!!!
You should try putting after the 300 pounder in our league. He walks off his putt and “aim points” right through your line. 1/8” deep foot prints minimum. Then he makes a pivot just to make sure it’s really tore up. Best part is he has no clue what he is doing but still does it for every putt – and misses 85% of the short putts – almost never makes anything over 10 feet. Watching him walk off a 5 ‘ putt and then “aim point” is almost comical.
I never ever blame the greens for a missed putt. I always blame my putter.
Ummm, that looks like a pretty damned nice green. So depends on the green. Add some seedlings, some deep ball marks, a few leaves, maybe a cigarette, a clump of sand or 2, and boom. You’ve got pinball.
I’ve always thought of it like, don’t freak the fuck out if you aren’t holing putts outside of 8-10 feet. Just try and get it close and be happy if you can tap it in for a 2 putt.
nahh
No. We blame Phil every time; Phil is our pin setter.
That’s fine, but the stuff that drives me crazy is when there is a subtle increase in elevation near the hole and it curves at the last 6 inches, or when you hit it slowly and it just happens to catch a piece of grass just right to not quite go in by like 1/2 inch.
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH37_idyXoZ/?igsh=djRiMjVjMm85YXVm](https://www.instagram.com/reel/DH37_idyXoZ/?igsh=djRiMjVjMm85YXVm)
Getting a good speed is key to match the right reading. I find it very tough!
Now do it at 30 different courses on every hole…
Not sure this proves anything. Only takes a small imperfect to throw it off line.
Now do this over the corduroy bladed and sanded greens
Used to play golf with an optometrist who concluded my eyes didn’t suck, my putting skills did.. 🫣
There appears to be a very slight indentation, about 8ish inches long, leading into the hole. You can see that one or two of the balls look to be moving fast enough to lip out, but then they snap back into the line at the last second. Combine that with all the other stuff people are pointing out, and I’m gonna pile into the “this-is-bullshit” crowd.
I’ve seen similar videos and like half miss. Soooo
Catch the edge of a dent and things might change. These greens are too good for a bad patch to exist. But hit a poorly fixed ball mark or unevenly cut section of grass and things start to get erratic.
Nope not at my course where the green says there’s a break but doesnt.
Nah, it’s obviously the wrong moon phase. That’s why I 3 putted. I’m more of a waxing crescent kinda guy.
I would agree. If I miss a putt, I would have made it if I had the right speed and line
What else is there besides speed and read? Lmao
Thanks, I’m acutely aware.
I also miss because of bad face control and poor path. So there’s that.
I missed because I don’t have one of those doohickeys