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00:26 Ryder Cup Recap
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Ryder Cup Recap | 2025 Sanderson Farms Picks, Bets & Fantasy Golf Preview Welcome to the Pat Mayo Experience
presented by Underdog. It is a winning time celebration
for the European Ryder Cup team. Ryder Cup recap.
Ryan Noonan will be on a little bit later on to talk about
Sanderson Farms and Batson. Maybe even Ryder Cup too.
Jeff, this is your moment of glory.
You’ve been saying this for 1.9 years now.
And how will you wanted to bet on Europe?
You did bet on Europe. You bet a lot of money on
Europe. You bet sides with people on the
Internet, on Europe and by the skin of their teeth.
They held on and won. Yeah, by the skin of their
teeth. They never want to make it
stress free. That ended up being way too
stressful, but they won. And now this group of the guys
that you know, for the people that watch my show or make up
like pretty much essentially all my favorite golfers now get a
join, you know, Ryder Cup legacy.
They want a roadie. You know, it was really built up
over 2 years what this roadie would be and how hard of a road
it would how hard of a road win it would be.
And you know, this group answered the bell shaky on
Sunday. Credit, credit to Keegan.
You know, my mind’s already thinking about 27 though.
So excited. Tim, you got to watch the
singles today. Glazin Bryson the entire time,
the most impressive singles performance of all time.
You called it the match that he have.
I said it’s one of the most impressive performances we’ve
ever seen to get down 5 after 7. And getting down 5 does not make
it impressive. But that’s not impressive.
Getting all the way back with everybody in the world taking
their shots at Bryson and for him to get all the way back and
get the half point, that was incredibly impressive.
I felt like Bryson was like the Scotty played very poorly.
Jeff and every like everyone shit on him, rightfully so,
because he just he he didn’t have his best stuff and they
needed him to have his best stuff.
But I felt like Bryson really came out as the big loser in all
of this. We saw, we saw old Bryson, the
Bryson that people don’t like, we saw all weekend.
It you got a bit of everything, you got like the full bag.
Most of the majors, like you haven’t gotten the negative.
This sort of competition brings out everything into of everyone.
And he played five sessions and it was inevitable.
You got like the full experience.
You’re reminded of like how fucking annoying he is.
You’re reminded of how fucking incredible he is.
Yeah, so, you know, it was, it was the full bag.
And I, I’m one of these people. I, you know, I get these texts
like, oh, the PGA misses Bryson. Like, I totally disagree.
I don’t know, maybe I’m in the minority.
I, I, I agree with Jeff. Tim, you’re on the other side.
It would be great to see Bryson week in, week out and all the
elevated events. It’d be a lot of fun to have him
back. He injects a level of life and
interest into things that otherwise aren’t really there.
He he does, but I think that’s because we get him in such a
limited capacity. Yeah, but I think if you saw him
more often it would just be more exciting.
No, it’s a diminishing return with him because he’s
unlikeable. I would go as far to say, and
maybe this is like an unpopular take, like for an elevated
event, I do not think like the ratings increase would be
anything but like, minimal, like, like negligible is the
word I’m looking for. If Bryson was playing.
Yeah, I. I feel like.
I don’t think it’s possible for the PGA Tour to have better TV
ratings than they currently have.
I, I, I think there’d be like an initial like if you had all the
live guys come in and he had a few of them, like there would be
an instant peek. But if you had all of the live
guys play in every single elevated event and eventually
people just be like, like, there’s a novelty to Bryson that
he’s must see TV when he shows up.
Because if it was truly a thing where he really commanded this
much of A market and people were that interested, people would
watch live and they don’t. Yeah, he alone can’t carry
things, but I just think he adds a real extra flair that people
enjoy. He, I mean, what he was pulling
off today was phenomenal. I I I wouldn’t go as far as Tim,
but a full Marks and that sort of felt like once that match
turned, that’s when it like actually felt like holy shit,
like like holy shit, and like, now we’re in for something.
Thank goodness for Oh Bear, because without him you probably
would have lost. Well, thank God for Oh Bear and
the envelope. Those two things were the
deciding factor. Do do you think that rule goes
away, Jeff? What do you replace it with?
Like what Orange should have played like?
What would have happened? I don’t.
Understand I, I think that they, they will change that rule
because it almost became a thing.
Although what is it like the second time it’s ever happened
in Ryder Cup history? People aren’t intentionally
pretending that they’re hurt so they don’t have to play.
They they want to be playing. I I think they’ll just bring an
alternate next time each team gets 1 alt.
That is, that is plausible. Maybe that’s just the easy
answer. There’s enough guys loitering
around that you feel like could pick up sticks.
Yeah, I’m shocked the tie is still possible.
Well, it’s not really. Possible, but it’s always
possible because it’s a. No matter how many matches you
have, because haves are available, you can always tie.
Yeah, what do you mean 1414? Like it’s not possible, but it’s
definitely like a permutation of 20. 829 events instead of 28.
If there was an event that was halved, you could have 14 1/2
fourteen. But I’m saying there can be a
tie, but there’s not really a tie because the retaining team
retains the cup. Correct.
They, they, they get, it’s like getting counted out and you’re
the intercontinental champion or there’s a, a time limit draw.
It’s like baseball, The tie goes to the runner.
Yeah, the the tie goes to the champion.
Yeah, you got to beat the champion.
You got to beat the man. To be the man.
You can’t just tie your. Weight.
Yeah, there’s no way to avoid it.
You know it, it would be fun to have some sort of like playoff.
I think that would be very exciting.
But that’s I don’t think they like playing around with these
Ryder Cup rules. They’ve been around forever.
This is how they want to keep them.
Yeah it was. It was 2 tournaments.
It was the team events where the European team was vastly
superior and the individual events for the Americans were I
I never understood why the US were favored.
They don’t have the talent level the Europeans have outside of
Shaffleur and Bryson, but they made the US the favorites. the
US did really well, you know, in a comeback, but like they just
don’t have horses to beat the Europeans and they lost.
I’m I’m not totally I shouldn’t like when Lowry made the the
pot. Dan Hicks was like 01 of the
great upsets is like Europe’s a better team, like they they were
going to win and they did you. You, you say that in, I mean,
you were, you hit that one coming into it that you thought
the Europeans were a much better team.
But when we saw the singles matchups listed 1 by 1, you
looked at, it’s like, and maybe the Americans do have the better
team. Like when you looked at those
matchups, the Americans were favored in most of them.
I mean, I would say the one thing if anything to come out of
this Ryder Cup, which is potentially like other than some
of the crowd stuff that you’re up, seems like in the moment
they say they’re going to like want to rein in just for
betterment of the future is for some reason America is like
always favored. They’re always favored.
And I think maybe this is pretty naive for me to say.
I think that is like over. I think that is over now.
I mean, Europe wins this far more often than they lose.
They went through the stats, right?
How many of the last 11 of the last 15 and five of the last 7
or 6 or whatever? Like, yet they’re always
underdogs. Which tells you that that that’s
just a misprice. The misprice the the Europeans
by and large are better. That’s not likely to change.
And they have a better institutional infrastructure for
whatever the hell has to happen on the 1st 2 days.
They play better team golf and this is not an individual event.
It wraps up individually, but the majority of the points, 16
of the 28, are in team events. I I would say it basically just
breaks down to that the Americans win because generally
speaking, the Americans have the better talent on either side.
They don’t generally win. That’s kind of the point.
They don’t generally win. When they put it whistling
straights and they just absolutely dominated there.
It’s just they don’t play. They’re all individuals.
Whereas the Europeans do really seem to relish playing as a
team, whereas the Americans. Don’t.
And that tells the Americans need to change that mindset.
How, How do you do that? That’s like an institutional
change that the guys aren’t going to have.
Like, the only guy who really seems to enjoy playing as a team
is Justin Thomas. Yeah.
Who came out as a big winner on the American side, I feel like.
Yeah, he had a great day for. Sure.
In terms of like veterans with majors and lots of Ryder cops,
like it’s now officially like sort of his, you know, the
leader guy. The thing about 2016 though, is
2016, you can clearly see like the delineation of the European
Tour. That’s when like the guard that
we remember like changed hands and they were in a bit of an in
between phase in 16. And also like a lot of goobers
ended up on the team. But it was like a an in between
of the eras from what was before that, and then was certainly
what started after that in Paris.
Yeah, I I would tend to agree. And there’s 21.
They were also, you know, that was just, that was just like a
peak, a peak moment. They got outgunned in 21, but
that’s also when the best of like that, the last era of
American golfers were still like, Dustin was still really
good, Spieth was still really good, Brooks was still really
good. Yeah, yeah.
And that was a great era and that Pat like we’ve done this
thing that was a brown bag that was a brown bag behind like a a
gas station. That’s how good that USA team
was. As much as I always like want to
find a way to back Europe, that was certainly not even an option
for that one. I don’t I mean, I wouldn’t even
know how to begin to figure out how they how they do it.
It just seems like there’s just like a genuine camaraderie there
that’s like not try to be that they don’t try to like make
happen in a month’s build up and the event.
It’s like it. It genuinely exists.
They don’t put the worst possible mathematical pairings
together twice. It didn’t work the first time,
It’s got to work the second time.
Jared, you want to chime in? Yeah, it was just thing I, it
might sound a little corny, but what I said to my buddy is like
America are very much playing for their country, but Europe
are playing for their country but also for each other is the
vibe that I got. Yeah, ’cause when they’re not
from the same country. No, like what’s what is to say
you’re playing. These guys win a match and they
you think they’re going to start making out with.
Each other, yeah. That’s another thing I noticed
with Bryson, too. Like Bryson was there to play
for his country and himself. Yes, he was.
Like he was. He was not there to play as a
part of a team he wanted. He wanted the glory.
It felt like that’s just the exceptional exuberance after
every shot. Like it felt like a lot of
things that I find with Bryson. It felt very manufactured.
For I the US team, like I would pick my next captain actually
extremely quickly Tiger and and then like really focus on
developing an actual structure that can win in four years time.
Understanding that Ireland is probably rough, but I didn’t
even commit to a captain for a two year stretch.
I’m going to give you the next two riders to get us ready for
Hazeltine. Tiger got a free pass for
whatever happened this time around for why he didn’t want to
do it. He was being maybe like pulled
in directions by like trying to fight a live back.
There were just things. I like to defend Tiger as much
as anyone. You know my wife drives a car a
joke because it saved his life. Not actually she likes the car.
That being said, shame on Tiger Woods if at this moment in USA
golf he is not there to pull them up and he is not there
waiting to do this and to help be part of the solution after
they lose this event. Which I mean full credit to
America for showing up today is I don’t want to like I guess you
can’t call it an ass whipping anymore.
They showed so much heart and played so great today but if
like shame on Tiger Woods if he is not there to be part of this
as they pull themselves up from the mud from losing their once a
decade homie home game. I thought that the US was able
to really ride off the crowd on Sunday.
It felt like the crowd because it felt like it was so out of
reach that people who showed up on Sunday just really wanted to
be there. And that was the better crowd
all week. Like some of the shit was pretty
disgusting. Oh.
My goodness. And it’s, it’s listen, it’s
probably like 8 people honestly. I don’t know.
I wasn’t there. I can’t tell you how frequent it
was. But like, that’s the sort of
stuff that will like, get rid of the tournament because the best
players won’t play anymore if that’s what they’re going to
have to be subjected to. Yeah.
And they don’t need that. Like they, I mean, it’s really
just the Rory stuff that just sounded.
Discussed That was by far the worst, but the stuff that was
being said to other golfers is like.
Listen, there’s I’m one of the some of the fun of the Ryder Cup
is that stuff. But it can be done in a funny
and classy way. Yes, exactly.
There’s all. In like like.
Like, I don’t know really your your question is going to be why
is it in Wisconsin and Minnesota people aren’t abrasive assholes
like they are in New York? Jeff, how many months did you
spend saying New York sports fans are actually the worst?
My my point would be is maybe the PGA of America just needs to
like keep this thing in places that are obsessed with college
football, where college football’s like the home team
and no college football for all like the psychos and stories you
see on the Internet, like 19, like the fans understand like
rivalries and how it like works for the most part.
I don’t know if I’m making any sense there, but you went
somewhere like New York and they were told for two years and that
they’re like, I, I, I don’t know, to be lunatics.
And it crossed the line. And it would be nice if there’s
like a demarcation point where Europe uses a home game to like,
draw a definitive line in the sand of like, no, like, just cuz
you got something like that doesn’t mean like, we get our
turn. Like, no, it’s time to rain it
back. I agree.
They they they won’t though, because Europeans is.
Save that exclusively for European football where they act
like absolute lunatics and say the absolute worst things and
throw shit onto the field. Golf tends to be a bit classier
when it comes to that sort of stuff.
The the only two things I really had a problem with with the fans
were some of the Rory stuff that was being said about like you
said, like Rory’s dad and stuff like that.
Just awful and like talking while he was trying to hit like
the Europeans, like jeer at the American team.
Oh, that’s fine. But then when it’s their turn to
hit the ball, they’re quiet. Of course, if they’re still that
golf. Party.
The next two are in Minnesota and San Francisco.
You’ll have better class of fan. There there’s also, like a lot
of stories on ground, like to Pat’s point, like it’s probably
like 12 people. Like anytime they were looking
for who did it, there were full, like, throng of people, like
pointing out the asshole. Yeah.
Let’s say I don’t want to just besmirch most of people.
No, I’m sure 99 we’re fine. But like, you don’t.
This is the only place where you’ve like, seen that happen.
Yes, exactly. It’s unbelievably terrible.
It can’t be allowed to go on. It’ll ruin the Emmy event.
You know Fitzpatrick like still breastfeeds or Roman Ozempic,
like you’d be funny. Like that’s fine.
I don’t. Care about that.
That’s just, that’s just jeering.
That’s that’s nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, no, like there’s there’s a way, there’s good way ways and
funny ways to do it and be a like a jerk, but they they go.
It was just so abhorrent and I guess how they did it.
Do you guys think like today let’s gets Keegan off the hook
or it almost polarizes the the simple mistakes from early and
the half points won and lost everywhere?
Keegan will no longer be remembered as an absolute
disaster of a Ryder Cup cap. And he’ll be, you know, he he he
was able to pull the team back to nearly winning and, like,
we’re going to give it to him again.
But, you know, they put on a good show, They perform well.
And that’s. Yeah.
So he he burnished a lot of his reputation.
I will say even in his post interview he seemed like crushed
that they lost, which I at least I like more than like Furyk was
like bad choices I guess. Yeah, Nope.
He wasn’t doing it, though. He was.
Crushed and did it to himself, he made.
Bad he made. The bad decision at least he
owned up to the bad the worst decision that he made.
I wrote about it. That’s Forts. golf.com is where
you can find some of my articles right now where I’m going to be
posting them. But just he set the course up
totally wrong. Like with the teams that were
brought, growing out the rough and making it as hard as
possible with like narrow fairways was the move for the
Americans. That’s the team that they
brought. They didn’t bring the Bomber
team. That’s what was the European
team. You’re going to bring Ben
Griffin. You don’t play him once.
You either play him a couple of times or don’t bring him.
There’s other guys you could take.
I don’t understand. I I like as much as like he’s
going to get chastised for the the Morikawa English pairing
that went out twice and rightfully so, but it it’s less
so that like you have to play them once.
They have to play somewhere. Might as well bury them an alt
shot. Don’t play them again.
But having spawn coming in as like the number two guy in
points, being one of your better dudes and not playing him until
like the afternoon, like had him out in the first session and not
having Cam Young like Cam Young came out as the biggest winner
from the American team. He tied Xander for the most
points. He played lights out.
He carried fucking Bryson in the only match that Bryson won.
He was all Cam Young that he didn’t go out.
He like when I do my projections.
I had him out with Bryson in round one.
Like, why wouldn’t you play those guys together?
I guess they they tried JT and Bryson but.
JT is an awful alternate shot player.
He’s not. He’s not made for Ultra.
I would not have had him. Even early in that match Bryson
was bailing him out, and even yesterday early Bryson was
bailing out Scotty. But just to send out Morikawa
again and then to be told asked like, why?
It was like, oh, these guys, they got a lot of pride and they
really wanted another go on it like that to me was like, oh,
oh, like now you should have played.
Because if you’re not going to do anything and making hard
decisions and telling guys that they’re not playing is like part
of the job. It’s a hard part of the job.
But you don’t have the guts to be like this shit’s not flying
again. Like, if you’re going to do
nothing, then you might as well play and be captain.
Like, if you’re going with the exact same plan you had three
weeks ago in a boardroom, then you should have played.
Then you should have played if you’re never changing it, and
you should have played. And I’m not wrong.
Well we were talking like if if this if they knew they were
going to set it up this way, they picked the wrong guys as
captain’s picks. Like they should have fucking
picked Akshay. Just have just have guys who pin
seek the entire time. I agree.
Yeah, it turned into a pins. Yeah, there’s a lot of pins
seeking. You said I feel bad.
If you’re going to take Ben Griffin and play him once, you
might as well have taken Spies and played him once and see if
you could ride the hot hand in the opening foursomes.
And Griffin was fine. He won the singles match, so he
should have played. Also the the US are terrible at
alternate shot. Why would you leave?
I feel shot. You should have led with
foursomes. I don’t understand why Keegan
thought it would be a smart idea to start with with alternate
shot rather than four ball. I don’t.
I don’t understand that. It’s hard for decision making.
Feel bad, honestly, as much as I made fun of them and so much of
the lead up like the true Long Islanders, like their course got
embarrassed. Like like the guys that are
going to play it in 10 days are going to get it harder than they
got it this week. And they’re like these fans
embarrassed me. This isn’t my golf course.
What the fuck is going on on my property?
Yeah. OK, let’s, let’s rate before we
get out of here, let’s rate the, the, the big winners from each
team, the big losers from each team, the big winners on the US.
I’m going to say are Cam Young by fire number one.
I’m going to put Justin Thomas at #2 I thought he, he was the
one trying to, he’s basically Rory’s bodyguard on Saturday,
trying to get the crowd to be like, Jesus Christ, fellas.
Like calm down. Like it, Wendy, when your
opponent who is losing to you is still feeling bad for you based
on some of the shit that’s being said, that’s a problem.
Yeah, those are the only two winners.
Only two because you know, Kim Young is like he’s now like
maybe a guy he cements himself as like, you know that and JT
sort of cements himself as like the veteran American leader,
like cemented now it seems, you know, Xander and Cantly they do
their thing. They’ll play a lot, but they’re
you know, they have their own quiet confidence about them.
JT it’s a bit of a try hard in the rah rah and and that’s USA
needs one of those so. Keegan and Scheffler Morikawa in
English, nothing. I mean English whatever.
Morikawa, Big L Week, Scotty. Nothing.
Yeah, not like whatever. Like, I don’t know, people are
going to ride them hard. I’m I’m a bit of an apologist.
Well, again, if your best player is Scotty Scheffler, why do you
try to make the course as easy as possible to give like to?
And people are like, well, he won the Byron Nelson.
It’s like, yeah, he played against.
Listen, the C tier of the PGA Tour didn’t play against these.
Guys, you wanted to make that hard.
You had multiple U.S. Open winners on your team.
Why didn’t you play it that way? You’re gonna make that place top
where pars were winning holes they made.
Of course, like set up for guys at the Saint Jude, like Row
Spawn and Tommy. Yeah, made no sense.
Yeah, it it, it was really strange in that regard.
And for Europe, feel like Lowry turned out to be the Lowry.
Lowry was the star. No one, no one got it better
than Lowry like. Rose was a big winner.
Rose was a big winner. Lowry, Rose, you know Tommy.
And Rory for sure. Yeah.
At the iconic moment of the Ryder Cup, but turning around,
telling that person off and sticking it to 8 feet, that is
the moment that people will remember from this Ryder Cup.
And Lowry, that’s the moment the eagle and then telling like 5000
people to fuck off. Yeah, that too, I mean.
This is why, Tim, This is why I honestly say this event, like up
until the back nine Sunday of the Masters, it’s better than I.
Agree with you and Luke Donald is the yeah Luke Donald will now
go down in lore as the greatest or one of the greatest team
captains ever to to be a part of.
The I do appreciate how both the commentary and Keegan said that
about Luke Donald as it almost feels like, well how can we beat
the best Ryder Cup? Captain of all time, but it’s
true. He’s been great.
I would be, you know, and when he was asked if he wanted the
third one, he didn’t say no. He said I just want to enjoy
this one right now. He should, he should be the
captain until he. Loses he’s it should be a James
Bond situation. It is his job until he turns it
down. It’s his job until he loses.
Like if he loses in Ireland it’s no longer his.
And then he would turn it down the next time.
I’m not going to lie, it doesn’t almost matter what happens from
here on out. He’s almost like the godfather
of it. Like do you, I mean.
It’s like he almost will pick the next captains, the next
captains like he’ll need their his blessing.
He is now like the godfather of the institutional
infrastructure. 20 years from now, if Europe goes through a
trend of losing a couple Ryder Cups in a row, they’ll go back
to Luke to tap him on the shoulder to bring him back in.
Absolutely. When Victor’s too high to do it,
Yeah, he’s got his Roxbury syndrome on the Jeff.
I know we got to run, but like, are you, do you have like a
Ryder Cup memory thing like you do with like major?
Championships, yeah. I, I, I have like if you, if I
tell you Ryder Cup, what’s the one thing that you think about?
Because I have the one thing that I think about.
I mean obviously the 90. 9 Medina for Me, 90. 9 at the
Country Club. Like that that that.
Medina comeback but. That’s I want to ask.
That, that, that that’s an entire thing.
Like, what’s a Ryder Cup moment that you remember?
Mine is the Reed making that putt in Rory’s face and the
quieting the crowd. That was a.
Huge 1 still like Poulter Medina Rose Medina, but Tim so or
either I guess Pat if you have the memory of it because I I
don’t looking back like this week and like the road just how
like the European history and the road wins 2004.
How on earth did they win that? Well, nine of the top ten
players in the world. Phil and Tiger were played
together I think twice and lost the both of their matchups
because they were terrible team mates to have together, so
that’s part of it. Oak Hill, right?
It was Oak Hill. I think that’s right, yeah.
Just looking at the rosters in the world rankings and that’s
when like world rankings meant something, not when like ROM is
like the 60th in the world nonsense.
It it almost feels like ROM didn’t try on live, like he
showed up here and he seemed reinvigorated.
It’s almost like ROM has yet to figure out how to perfectly
channel Liv. Like he came a second in the PGA
Championship, so don’t want to be too hard.
I I, I I’m not saying that he sucks.
It’s just like he doesn’t win on Liv, but when he comes here, he
feels like Jon ROM again. Yeah, that’s right.
It’s not like he’s losing to. No, because you’re back in like
the highest stakes moments, yeah.
I don’t know. Yeah, Liv, just in a way that
Liv felt like perfect for Bryce Brooks and I guess Bryson.
It doesn’t feel like it’s it’s best for Jon.
Rom’s like mental prep in some ways.
Like he needs to be dueling Scheffler weekly.
Yeah, I I would tend to. Agree.
I agree to. To be his best in a way it seems
like Bryson and Brooks didn’t. I mean.
Bryson’s the only guy who’s gotten better since he’s gone to
live. He’s the only guy I guess.
Maybe. I mean, I guess, but.
Legitimately. Even doesn’t do anything in any
real tournament I. Guess maybe they’ll allow him to
play in the President’s Cup. If it’s not Tiger, who is the
captain though? I mean.
Snedeger, Webb, Simpson. Because because Phil is just out
right and. What could?
Phil’s on Phil’s on Twitter. Begging to be captain.
I think they should give it to him on a Road 1.
Go ahead, Phil. I really hope Phil can get it
again. He is.
I like to think when the people who were involved in the past
are no longer involved and it’s less personal for like the
people at the PGA of America making the decision, he’ll get
his turn. I, I just want to Phil versus
Poulter, but he’s I, I want to see that.
He’s turned into like crazier than Rumble Feinberg.
It’s true Rumble Phil was like a real guy.
Now I wonder what he’s posting on.
Truth you. Guys make a joke.
That thing is real. Savion Williams got his.
Carry trying to think who in the United States I would next want
to be captain. It’s like going back to Stricker
again or Nah, I can’t do that. It’s Webb Simpson, Brandt
Snediger, these guys, another. Let Keegan do a road game like
why? Should.
Here’s the problem. Here’s the problem.
Not be like a two term thing, no.
Because now you. Don’t think it should.
The captaincy should be I. Actually said at the beginning I
think they should give the next captain A2.
Yeah, just let Tiger do both them if he wants to do it.
If not, you run into a situation with Keegan right now and this
is what I think would happen with Morikow in English is like
he sees these guys every week. He plays on tour with them, he’s
friends with them. He doesn’t.
He didn’t want to piss anyone off is what it turned into.
He didn’t want to make anyone feel like how he felt by being
left off the team and it clouded his decision making.
I wouldn’t put it on him. I would the the one part that
people seem to overlook is that the European, the Europeans
played fucking great. That’s why they won.
Yeah, it’s true. Like Tim said, it was the tale
of two tournaments, Thursday, Friday or Friday.
Saturday one of these guys, everyone hit, hit all the putts.
And then today it seemed like the Americans hit so many putts
and Europeans couldn’t hit any putts.
And that’s just really all it all it came down to.
Last thing whose fault was the fight?
Which was the best part of the Ryder cap, really?
Bryson and Bryson’s caddy it wasn’t.
Bryson and Bryson’s caddy, right?
Yeah, yeah, they were at fault. And then Bryson, like, making it
a thing, walking to the next tee, I thought was like a really
low moment for him. And like, once you got to get
once, you’re like, chirping with Tommy.
Like Tommy Here’s the thing, Tommy and Justin Rose, Justin
Rose like probably at top of this, but are there two more
like respected high like classy high end guys like regardless of
country or any affiliation in golf and Tommy and Justin Rose
that everyone universally be like all around GG.
I I don’t know if it’s true or not, but there was a rumor that
when they were walking to that next hole that Tommy Fleetwood
whispered to Bryson. Tougher than YouTube mate.
I. Stewart Sink has never captained
the team. No, that’s.
Interesting. Over.
Yeah, that’s weird. And, and he’s bet was on the
2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010 Ryder Cup team.
And a major winner. And a major winner.
You know what Stewart Sink would be like The next vet in?
Line and he’s a good guy to throw up in as an Open champion,
a good guy to throw out in an. Irish in an Irish, Yeah, and
you’ve. Removed enough from the current
players where he doesn’t give a shit about.
And I think you actually need that, which is why I don’t like
the idea of giving it back to Keegan.
I think think you have to be distanced enough that you don’t
care who toes, whose toes you step on when you say I don’t
care how well you you’ve been playing on the tour.
You’re playing poorly this week. Go sit down.
I really wish Keegan at some point in the process, even if it
was a month ago, it feels like you said I’m not the count.
I’m going to play web and Gary or whoever’s there.
You guys just pick the teams, pick the line up.
I’m I’m playing. As I continue to go through with
this captain stuff, I mean, the the captain only matters if he
impacts you negatively. Like making the right decision
isn’t hard, but all these, all the American captains, like the
past few times just made the worst decisions possible.
Luke Donald just makes good decisions.
He’s like, oh, here’s the statistically best matchup we
can have. Let’s do that.
Not the worst because I’m feeling it.
Agreed. All right, Jeff, any final
thoughts? I can’t wait.
I can’t wait for the next one. That was so much.
That was so much fun the. Kim wants to go.
All I’ll say is like, if the US team wants to play like this, I
like the internationals next year in Madonna.
The Internationals are not winning an American’s president.
As long as you allow the live guys to play, I like the
international teams. No sorry, Scotty wasn’t playing
Bezadan Houghton KH Lee this week.
Sorry. Like what are you talking about?
They went five and O last year on the road 5 and.
O like that needs to be college branch an olive branch live into
those so that the internationals could get maybe a little bit of
of juice. But it was great and thanks to
Keegan for the year because it really made my favorite event
like it was because of the captaincy thing and Willy play.
Willy won’t play. It felt like it was just the
greatest year of Ryder Cup talking we’ve ever we’ve ever
had. Now what’s the law people want
to murmur about captaincy? But we’ll be back in a year and
I’ll be annoying the shit out of Pat.
It’s true, but you don’t get jazzed up for Presidents Cup
like this. Thanks for sticking around.
I appreciate it. Thanks to all of you people for
tuning in. Coming up next right after this
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So you’re the first American that we’ve had on the show,
Loser. How you feeling about it?
You know what, I think at the end of the day, we just wanted
some theatrics on Sunday and it very much delivered
surprisingly, because definitely didn’t think that was going to
be the case. Obviously heading in because it
was an unmitigated disaster for the first two days.
There’s obviously a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking
here Key and left himself open to that for sure.
And you know, I think there’s obviously a lot of easy low
hanging fruit discussions around Harrison England, you know,
Harris English and and Kalamora Kawa.
But like they they went up against Fleetwood Mackball times
like they just were kind of the sacrificial lamb and took a
bullet. No one was beating those teams.
So at least we didn’t waste like a good duo that could have won
somewhere else along the way. Now, the core setup I think is a
problem. I, I love hearing that Keegan’s
already, I think even mid tournament realized that that
was the wrong setup for US. Look, the Euros are awesome for
some reason. I think part of it is the
President’s Cup. The fact that like the US team
has to run back a team event every year.
I think there’s some novelty to it on the European side that I
think gets them up for a little bit more.
I think the like historical pieces that matter a lot on the
European side, they really lean on like all the savvy stuff and
all those those things that just go a little bit different.
Where is like Tiger is the anchor for these guys on the US
side growing up. And Tiger didn’t seem to really
give a shit about team events or really show up very well.
I mean, he’s also always paired with like jabronis and never
really had a shot. But there’s obviously something
cultural, excuse me, on the European side.
And I played itself out pretty big time this weekend.
I, I made this point to Jeff and Tim, actually, I think it was
actually Tim who made it, is that it feels like the European
guys are playing for themselves in certain, like they’re playing
for each other, like they really do care about who does well.
They all want to do well. They want to win.
Where outside of Justin Thomas, it just feels like it’s a team
of individuals on the American side, because that’s, that’s
what American golf is. There’s just more team golf in
Europe that way. Or maybe it’s because it’s a
collection of countries, not one country that they’re not just
playing for flag only they’re they kind of have to play for
themselves. It’s not like it’s a, it’s not
like it’s AUS versus Great Britain kind of thing.
You got guys from all over Europe coming into it.
And it’s the biggest thing I felt about Bryson is that Bryson
just he, he really tried to put himself before the team, it felt
like. And maybe he was trying to do it
to rile up the team, but it just felt like, Hey, look at me, I’m
Bryson. Yeah, I mean, that’s always the
the MO of Bryson. That was the Brandel attack.
I guess, you know, pre event was that Bryson’s the bots on
YouTube and it just kind of felt like it was a little bit out of
nowhere. And that’s there’s something to
that, right. Like in terms of even going back
to the the English Morikawa thing, that math piece, like the
worst thing possible on data balls rankings, the European
team is never going to miss. Like the discussion on Scotty.
Why would the caddies on Friday night going, you should probably
switch up the order that you and Henley go off.
Like the European side is never missing that.
And like the caddies aren’t initiating that conversation,
right? That’s captain driven.
So I think we can get into these discussions on how overrated is
the role of the captain or what’s involved.
And that was some of the stuff we discussed for months talking
about Can we can do that? Like we can still this a
competitive player where, you know, Luke Donald has said he’s
kind of had to take a step back from his game in terms of
planning, preparation and, you know, really what his focus is,
all the playing, all the captains.
There’s also like this hierarchy, like you work your
way through on the Euro side, There’s continuity not just in
the roster, but in the coaching staff as well and the vice
captains where there’s really other than Furyk, no continuity
from what happened in Rome. Then maybe we can argue that why
would we want anything? But like, I think there’s
something to be said for familiarity in their roles.
A lot of the like American Vice, those guys are still playing,
like they’re still very much playing and they’re competitive.
Whereas I think you’re not seeing like World Tour and and
be competitive anymore. So there’s just something
culturally that’s going to be really hard for the US to break.
And we had a bunch of guys and like whistling straights that we
thought were going to be ascending and be a part of this
for a very long time. And some of those guys
regressed. Even JT, who’s still in the
team, didn’t ascend. We haven’t had like the younger
guys come in and backfill a lot of those guys who didn’t even
make this team. Like we thought, you know,
Akshay maybe could be on this team, or maybe you get like a
Davis Thompson taking it like a step forward.
And you know, you had guys that played really well, have taken a
step back and that just hasn’t happened on the Euro side.
It’s funny because with the way that Keegan set it up, and I
mean, you edited my column that was up on betsfordsgolf.com,
that’s where my golf stuff is going to live now going forward.
Not like my live stuff, although my live stuff will probably be
up there too if I ever do any. But all my PGA stuff is going to
be at betsfordsgolf.com. If you want to check it out, the
articles, yeah, also in the newsletter, some of the
newsletter for free as well, down in the description was I, I
wrote about how it was a horrible idea, that what they
proposed for the setup just favored the Europeans, not the
Americans. Yeah.
I mean this is a course where, I mean we saw 74 four over final
round for, you know, for Kafka here back in 2019 for the PGA.
This course has some teeth and you have some guys that look,
yeah, they have lottery. It was just kind of pea shooting
it out there. But we had more of those guys.
We more guys playing from the fairway.
Like the impetus of the Henley Scotty paring and why it was so
advantageous is that Henley’s going to find fairways and
Scotty, regardless of whether it’s a wedge or a long iron, has
a massive advantage. They’re going to be like
elevated greens. They’re going to be firm and
fast. And look, they weren’t, they
took out a bunch of rain and at that point, like toothpastes out
of the tube, you can’t grow out the rough faster.
It just became a a wedge fast and a punting contest.
And, you know, that played right into the Euro’s hands.
I think they had six of the best 7 putting performances for the
week. Even, you know, SAP didn’t
strike you very well, made everything.
Rosie lives for this event and continues to show up and in big,
big ways. And again, any of the guys that
we had questions about on the Euro side, I think they did a
really good job. It just kind of covering them
with a, you know, a veteran who played really well.
Just. Yeah, like historically we’re
going to remember it differently, but it was not
really close it. Was just even to go back to it
like if you set it up like AUS Open and make it as difficult as
possible, look who is on this American team.
You got Bryson who’s won two US Opens, JJ Spawn who just won the
US Open, Morikawa, Xander and Harris English, all guys that
have played really well at US opens over the years.
Scotty is another one who just thrives at difficult courses.
Cam Young is another guy who lights up the US Open like.
Burns. Burns, He was in the final.
Yeah. Like what’s the common
denominator here? Like make it as hard as possible
and you win. Yeah, it’s, you know, I like the
least acknowledgement in the middle of it that that was the
wrong, wrong setup, you know, and at a certain point it’s out
of their hands in terms of pin placements and stuff like that.
But like he did have an impact on Tees, you know, wanting to
say, hey, we’re better wedge players, they’re better long
iron players. We need to move some of these
Tees up and then just you can’t have like 3 inch rough here.
I mean, this, this course, it was like a local muni and that
was supposed to be, you know, it’s iconic in terms of how
difficult it could play. And it obviously did not serve
the US well at all. And and if you knew that you
were going to do this, why pick the guys that you picked in that
sense? Like why, why bring Ben Griffin
with you at this point? Like bring Akshay, like this was
an Akshay course. Bring fucking Tom Hoagie if if
this is the way you were going to set it up.
Yeah, No, I think without a doubt there’s a lot of very easy
in Monday morning quarterbacking.
I just try to think of how do we move forward?
Like there’s, you know, we’re kind of missing a Generation 2
on the US side, right? There’s the Phil Tiger gap to.
It’s the it’s there. It’s just they don’t the as you
said, the guys didn’t develop in time.
And I’m not even talking about the Mavs.
I mean, Mav could have been on this team.
He actually probably wouldn’t have been very good on this team
with the way that the course was set up.
Just, you know, big drives, wedges and make all the putts.
They didn’t have those elite longer players who were also
great putters. All of their best putters were
like like the shorter players outside of Bryson and I mean
Scotty couldn’t make anything for.
The 1st and Burnsey again. Burnsey was terrible.
I mean we burns his bombs and and birdies right?
And then he just didn’t have it. No, he didn’t.
But like, you know, the Jackson Coyvans, Luke Clanton’s, Michael
Thorbjornsen’s like those guys. Like if they’re not in
contention in two years time, it’s going to be pretty tough.
Like they need that level of player.
Basically when you take a look at the European side, like they
got it out of Ludvik, they got it out of Victor, they got it
out of Tell both Hoy guards like Bobby Mack, like those guys
ascended and that level of American player who is 20 years
old that you just need them to be good right away like the
Europeans were. Yeah, no, that’s a huge piece.
Those three in particular definitely jump off the page in
terms of what we need moving forward to fill the back end and
feel a little bit more confident about things.
But that’s going to be a tough, tough test.
Like the Ludwig thing, it made sense even at the time for him
to be on the team. It was obvious that he was.
But to be able to kind of break that out at a home game is a
little bit easier than to to do it on the road.
And we’re going to have to probably ask those guys to go
and do it on the road, hopefully.
But even like going back to the whistling streets thing, like,
you know, it was young Scotty. It was still JT Spieth.
We had Moore Cowell still had it.
Moore Cowell was ascending, right.
There was just this thought of like these.
We’re just getting into the early stuff.
Like even a guy like a Matthew Wolf, like we felt like these
are just that young generation of of guys that were hitting the
ground running. That could be, you know, anchors
to US Ryder Cup teams for the next next decade have all just
either gone away or have just either spotted like regressed.
Really no one’s taking other than Scotty taking the the steps
up forward. And we need, we need those three
in particular on the US side to move forward.
Even looking at the mid tier and back tier of the team, be it
Henley, English, Griffin, like that type of player, it was just
so reminiscent of the mid odds, like mid, I guess twenty 10s
version of that European team where it’d be like Graham
McDowell and Ian Poulter. And like those guys became like
Ryder Cup guys. But in terms of like level of
talent, that’s why they were always so massively outgunned in
the US because those were the guys that they were rolling out
there. They’re like 6th and 7th best
players outside of what you see from them now.
And it’s just, it’s not that they have elite players across
the board, it’s just they have guys that just absolutely mash
it off the tee. Yeah.
I mean, the European side is amazing.
I just, I wonder about like the decision making process, it
feels like, and again, and some of this is done behind the
scenes. We don’t really know what’s
going on. But like it feels like there’s a
top down organizational piece on the on the European side that is
nowhere to be found on the US side.
And I’m just not sure if it’s the PGA of America and then
we’re going to get into the President’s Cup where that’s,
you know, run by the PGA Tour. So like they’re not necessarily
working together. Like there needs to be some sort
of, you know, we need to use this Presidents Cup coming up
here, Medina to get some of these early guys that were just
talking about hopefully they ascend to make it easy.
But like we need to kind of get them some team reps now.
We need to hopefully help them understand this is an important
piece because I just don’t think that was not necessarily
outside, like you said, JTA piece of the foundation growing
up. These guys are thinking about
going out and, you know, winning in majors and, you know,
whatever their local event is like they’re not necessarily
thinking about team golf because again, Tiger, it wasn’t a big
piece of Tiger and Phil and that should have been, you know, the
previous generation that was kind of like laying this
foundation and that very much came all the way through.
And again, they lean on the the savvy stuff pretty heavily, but
there’s the just miles apart in terms of I don’t even think it’s
like that. It doesn’t matter to the US
guys. I think it does matter to them.
And I think Keegan did a good job of kind of bridging that gap
a little bit more. Like it was very intentional
that they stood on the first tee with their arms around each
other. This time on the US side,
because there was we had like the the memes last time where,
you know, the European side was doing that.
And they just look like, you know, a business meeting for the
US side. Like I think Keegan was trying
to turn the screws on that a little bit.
I just didn’t work. It wasn’t enough.
Time to move on and get to what’s important.
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I feel like Min Wu should be the betting favorite.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. One of the corollary courses for
sure would be Memorial Park in just, you know, bombs and
birdies. That makes some sense.
I think actually was playing a little bit better down the
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I’m also surprised he’s here. Like it feels like he’s a, you
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Like he likes to play some some DP World Tour events too.
But yeah, him being a little bit, him being 6 points longer
than than Kevin Wu I think is interesting for sure.
Yeah, Min Wu was playing in the final group at the French Open
like 2 weeks ago with the one that our guy Michael Kim ended
up winning. He played.
Michael Kim played with, I think he played with Brooks on both
days. No, he didn’t.
He didn’t play with Brooks on the second day.
I think Min Wu actually played with Brooks in the final round
as those guys were trying to chase it down.
It just Min Wu makes a ton of sense here.
Like Cameron Champ has won here before.
Like looking at some of the past champions, I thought it was
somewhat interesting to, you know, Kevin you -23, Luke list
-18, Mac Hughes -17 just an all time putting performance.
Sam Burns 22, Sergio 19. Under are the past five winners.
You don’t need to hit a ton of fairways here.
It’s not that difficult to hit out.
You don’t need to be the biggest hitter, but four of those five
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Yeah, yeah, Driver heavy course saw, you know, driver usage here
about 15% above tour average. And like you said, there is no
miss fairway penalty at all. You see, you know, even though
you have a pretty low, there was rates, you still see moving leg
really high from the fairway. It’s still above 4 average from
the rough year as well, right? So it’s a long, it’s a long par
72, but there are birdies to be made all over the place.
So if you’re going to need to to be boring, take advantage of
those par fours because pretty much everyone’s taking advantage
of the par fives. Think you’re really separating
the, you know, those par fours. But yeah, I mean, I think
distance helps quite a bit. But Even so, because there’s no
miss fairway penalty, you’re still seeing a ton of wedges.
I’m thinking like like 30% of your approach shots are coming
from like 50 to 125 here. So yeah, just just get it out
there, doesn’t matter where you’re at, and then sync that
pot. We we saw a big boost last year
like when you go over to the 2024, like the five year running
average for driver usage is 78% off the T, it was up to 82% a
year ago. The highest density of drives
over 320% driving accuracy last year was 51%.
So it doesn’t matter whatsoever. Like you said, take a look at
those proximity ranges, the average shot distributions.
Yeah, you’re just getting a lot of shots, like even 50 to 125
last year was 30% of the shots coming in.
So guys that are good from in close can make 10 foot putts and
absolutely mash it the the path of least resistance.
That’s not to say that a Mac Hughes type or a griot type
isn’t going to go out and just light it up because you know
what, you can hit it from anywhere on this course.
I was just thinking that if I I can even take a look at last
year, like Kevin, you followed by Hosler and Glover.
This is the one that Keith Mitchell should have won, right?
Anyway, 3 pudded coming down the stretch.
Yeah, disaster down the stretch. Yeah, I think he was almost
like, let’s see if he was leaving after Round 1.
He was very much in in play, like from the job.
No, David Skins went real low 12 under the first round.
Thor was right behind. And I know I had Thor here last
year and people that you look over all, you can see guys that
had, I think Hayden Springer did really well here last year.
Yeah, and he lost like over five shots on approach.
I just never, very rarely are we seeing a guy finished top ten
and just bleeding on approach. But you know you can get it done
here with the putter can do a lot of the heavy lifting.
Not 100%. So yeah, it was Keith Mitchell.
He had this one and then he he 3 putted from like 5 feet I think
on 16 or 17 and that just dropped him out of it and he
ended up losing by one stroke. To Kevin, you who won in the
playoff over Haas or BCA just last year, just take a look at
these putting stats. Like if you’re not putting that,
you have no chance to be in this tournament because it just
requires so many birdies. I Thorgrensen lost.
He and Hayden Springer were both finished inside the top ten and
ended up losing strokes on approach.
But if like if you’re going to lose strokes anywhere, make it
around the green because you’re you’re just going to hit so many
greens of regulation that it’s not that important.
You know, you obviously don’t want to chip yourself out of a
tournament, but Kevin, you lost almost a stroke around the
greens. It didn’t make a difference.
If you’re having a scramble a ton anyway and missing the
greens, you’re you’re basically having a scramble for par a lot
of these situations and that’s not going to get it done anyway.
So yeah, it’s not a week where I’m leaning heavily on around
the green. We do have new around the green
data though. In the rabbit hole, yeah.
Check check this out. I’ll put it up on the screen
right now. It’s, it’s shot types around the
green. So this is 30 yards and in and
what we consider around the green, you can now separate it
over time, whether it’s from the rough, whether it’s from the
short grass like on the fairway or from the sand, if that’s what
you want to look at. And you can see how many shots,
what their distribution is of each of those shots and see what
those scrambling percentages on each of them.
I this is one of my favorite updates to like any sort of
system in a while. Yeah, Pushing forward, it took a
little bit of time, but yeah, I mean, we’d have weeks where it’s
like, Oh yeah, there’s a lot of shave runoffs around the green,
around the green from the short grass is going to matter a lot.
But then it was really hard to, like model that because it’s
hard to get an understanding of like, well, how frequently is
that happening compared to scrambling from the rough with
like thick aprons and stuff like that?
So now we’ll be able to have that in season to be able to
say, yeah, around the green, short grass matters a ton.
And it’s, you know, 70% of the around the green shot.
So it’s going to be great. So I got some other guys so Min
woo, I’m going to be in on outside of him.
I want to bet Akshay because this does seem like a really
good Akshay course of hey, let’s go fire at some pins and make
some putts. But I don’t know if I want to go
2 of the three favorites in the swing season tournament.
Putnam rates out pretty well in terms of like scrambling from
the rough, but so does Matt Wallace.
And we just take a look at everything overall and just
overall strokes gain. The guy with the most strokes
gain total per round over the past six months is Matt Wallace,
and he’s 40 to 1. He might even be bigger at some
other places too. Yeah, and he’s, you know, the
little bit of Ryder Cup hangover, right?
We saw him, you know, really upset that he, you know, knew
that he was on the outside looking in and, you know, had
his opportunity to get on that team and, you know, start the
the chase for Ireland in 2027 starts now from Matt Wallace.
This would be a great spot to, you know, start to get some of
those those points and stack them up.
We can make birdies and punches. I don’t hate him down the board
at all. I’m a sucker for Thor.
So pot committed on on Thor and you know, like this again, bombs
and birdies is something that he can do quite well.
Familiar with the course. Obviously was in the mix a
little bit last year, you know, outwards of, you know, seeing
some 20 eights. We’d love to see a little bit of
a bigger number. We’ll see if we get there.
I can. I see him being pretty popular
too. And then Grio models really well
for me, I liked how we played at the pro core.
The putting has been surprisingly better as long as
35. So I like that one a little bit
too. Again, I’m kind of like you like
do I want to be swimming near the top of the board in a
Sanderson Farms Birdie Fest in October?
I don’t know. That’s where I want to be like
building card wise. But I do like those two at the
top. And you make a good case for men
who, especially if we start to cook out closer to 30, that’s
feels just, it just kind of feels bad, feels wrong.
It would be nice if Ricky Castillo could put because I
feel like he would be all over this and I end up getting this
jabroni every single week anyway.
But like a top 20 bet is probably the move.
Although he never finishes inside the top 20.
He’s a big fan of like T30TT23T24.
Like he just, he ends up putting himself out of these
competitions so often. But it feels like he might not
necessarily be a real guy, but in the Rico Hoey vein of like
someone who’s going to suck you in, give you a sweat like every
three weeks and then just implode towards the end because
how he was like. Enrico’s putter, he went.
He moved to the broomstick and it looked OK with the Pro core I
I. Mean, he looked like he was more
confident over it. But here’s the problem, even
when we take a look at Rico Hoey and how he’s been doing, like,
yeah, I mean, it got better for him.
Like when we take a look at his putting numbers, but he still
lost strokes putting, he just didn’t lose.
Yeah. Like 8 strokes.
We got to, we got to find the small wins wherever we can.
But yeah, it was it. At least it looked a little bit
better. I think he had one really poor
round with the Potter. Maybe it was Saturday at the pro
core, but you know, equipment change, you know, just better
Juju feel a little bit more confident.
You can you can sell me on on him too.
But again, I wish he was longer. He’s 35 in there with, you know,
Krio Hughes posting like he’s, he’s near the top of the board,
you know, so we’re not getting necessarily a huge discount on
him. Well, how do you want to play
this thing? Like, do you want to play like
Min Wu would be my choice from the top of the board.
Then I’m going to go to Mount Wallace, that 40 to 50 range.
But then I’m kind of open to anything.
Do I just jam another one of these guys?
You mentioned Thor Bjornsen. I like Thor Bjornsen.
You mentioned Grio, I like Grio. Both Hoy guards would
theoretically make a ton of sense here.
They bomb it and they putt. Yeah, there’s another one that’s
a little bit more interesting and is a Pat Mayo special as
well. A young Texan beats up on the
Korn Fairy Tour, but when he gets over on the PGA Tour, it
hasn’t been great so far. 65 to one for Pearson Cootie.
You can sell me on a Pearson Cootie 65 in a putting contest
where you’re going to chase it out there off the tee so.
His his putter is kind of wavered back and forth recently,
like that used to be kind of his bread and butter.
His approach plays just really bad.
Yeah, but we saw that you can you can top 10 here without
really, you know, you lose every round on approach if you’re just
singing those putts. So I need to dig.
I haven’t looked at, you know, him in depth yet, but the number
jumps out as I kind of crawl down the board to look for some
viable, you know, just pedigree some.
You know, Tom Cam down here at 90 to 1 was fascinating.
Not betting Tom Cam, but it’s just funny that he’s 90 to one
in this field. Yeah, that’s, you know, the
Pearson Cooney numbers is long ish for me.
I don’t. I don’t mind that at all.
You’re not in on like 40 to 1 Max OMA.
I’m cheering for Max. I want to see him do well.
I’m not, it’s not going to get my money.
But yeah, that’s let’s see if he can, you know, get back a little
bit and just never before rounds consecutively.
So probably in there somewhere, just he’s not going to.
Let’s take a look at last six months for that 50 to 100 range
because it seems like there’s be like there’s the short par 4.
Some of the par fives are going to be attackable from this
range. If there’s anyone in here, Grios
is 6th over the last six months. You mentioned Houston and like
as one of the crossover courses. Is it?
Is it time to bet some wacky Valamaki again?
It’s not bad. Balamaki plays pretty well on
typically harder courses. While I don’t know, we showed up
in Houston, longer golf courses work really well for him.
He actually, I think modeled pretty well for me if I can
where it is. Yeah, he’s some, some wacky
balamaki. Yeah, he’s 10th in my model,
which is, you know, it’s, it’s not bad and part of it is really
good with the, the wedges, the birdie or better rate.
Ultimate model cutting overall, both on Bermuda and just, you
know, raw cutting over the last six months been pretty solid.
You know, probably a finishing position bet for me.
Yeah, he tied with Matt Wallace in Switzerland like 3 weeks ago.
They were both tied for second there.
And then he was 8th at the Danish Golf Challenge the two
weeks before that. So once he left the PGA Tour,
went over to Euro, he had consecutive top 10’s and he was,
he missed the cut at the pro core.
But you know, that was with like really good players in the
field, 66 to 1. I don’t know if that is exactly
where I want to go with this, but I mean, you Kevin Roy’s
never going to make enough putts to do anything is the problem.
But like there’s a couple of those guys in the Sergio one
here. But this was the tournament, the
Sergio one when he was putting with his eyes closed.
Yeah, yeah, Kevin Roy and the other one for me is yes for
Spensen. Who I don’t know, is played OK
at times can chase it out there and the putting is is OK.
And he’s a really good wedge player.
I have him, you know, 13th and, you know, 50 to 100 and that
that guy, because of his distance, you know, when you
kind of think about the gaps of 50 to 125 is a pretty wide
range. We’d imagine that guy’s going to
be spending most of that in the 50 to 100 range because he
drives it so well. So yes, Sir, fence.
Fence is another one that you know, maybe it’s a finishing
position bat, you know, I don’t know what the outright number is
on expensive, but that one could be interesting as well.
Are are we looking at this the wrong way?
Because when I go back and read those like you tell me if you
would say, well, let’s rate these guys on like out of 10.
If I tell you these guys name like a 10 out of 10 is Sam Burns
or Taylor Montgomery on the greens?
And then you know, 1 is Rico Hoey kind of thing.
And let’s think about these past winners.
Kevin, you How would you rate him as a putter?
Yeah, I mean, he’s look, I’ll tee up to the next one.
He’s a Luke List All Star. You know he’s. 2 out of 10.
Yeah, 2 out of 10. Luke.
Luke List. Yeah.
I mean, he’s he’s historically been probably A1 or A2 for sure.
Mac Hughes. Mac Hughes isn’t, you know, 9 or
A10. Sam Burns.
Same 9 or A10? Sergio 22 So what you want here,
yeah, from what I can see is guys that are absolutely crush
it on the greens or guys who are absolutely terrible but crush it
getting to the green. And it seems like bad putters
can find their stroke here. Yeah.
I don’t think these are very challenging, challenging putting
services, let’s see here in Bermuda typically are fast.
You know, nothing in terms of green size or anything that
looks tricky. Yeah, we’re yeah, we’re probably
spending too much time with, you know, decent partners.
We need to be looking more at the extremes.
So Spensen is a guy that could that you could sell me on.
I saw yes, 60 is out there, 50 fives.
That’s kind of that, yes. For Spensen, Pearson, Cootie, a
little bit of, you know, a two and A and a nine putting wise to
kind of spread out the card compared to where Grio.
Grio will surprise you. I think he surprised both of us
when we saw the recent, you know, putting numbers for for
Greo. They’re not necessarily what we
have come to expect over the last, you know, 5 to 10 years of
him. He’s playing, you know, he’s
putting significantly better and the ball striking remains great.
So so let’s take a look at some of these ball striking guys who
can’t putt Rico’s number one Ben Coles is number 2.
Akshay. I mean Akshay putts, but he’s
also in the top five. Thomas Rosenmueller that’s a guy
that sky bets every single week. Maybe he’s a look here.
What are his odds? I.
Think he played well at the pro core too if I’m not mistaken.
But he’s 3rd and ball, striking in 118th from the field and
putting. Oh my gosh, he fits perfectly.
He was T64 at the pro core where he.
Gained. He was.
He gained 8 strokes ball striking and lost 7 strokes
putting. I mean, Isco, he showed up these
alt events, I mean including a three M open, you know, and if
you would have puttered it all that week, the ball striking
numbers were pretty good. Yeah.
I mean, these are the kind of guys in Corrales, you know, so
he’s a Rosenmueller is definitely a a dog in some of
these lower field alt events. Texas, he was there, missed the
cut shockingly, could not do anything on or around the green.
The ball striking numbers were great.
So yes, you’re making a case for a solid look, right?
He fits the mold and. This, this guy ended the season
really, really poorly. It was like 3 cuts and four
starts. But Lee Hodges struck me as
someone who has the sort of game for here and every now and again
he’d lights it up on the greens and maybe this could be a place
for him. But I I just don’t know where
his game is at it. It’s hard to judge with some of
these guys that we just haven’t seen in like 2 months now.
Yeah, And like, how relevant is, you know, anything that you
would find from from like recent form because it’s been such a
large gap. So I mean, the Patrick Rogers
slappies can sell themselves on this this week too, right?
He can send it in. The Potter gets hot.
Not for me. Isaiah Salinda.
Should we look at any Mexico guys, you guys that can
absolutely nuke it off off the tee?
I don’t know what he’s done as of late, but he’s out there at
90 in the Kevin Roy, Hayden Springer area.
Yeah, Putnam at a hundreds probably.
It’s probably a pretty good look.
He bought him very well as well. I I get suckered in, I mean,
Putnam tends to always do well. I’m taking a look at Nick Dunlap
right now. He’s like 300, isn’t he?
He’s 250 to 1 I think I bet him at this tournament at like 18 to
one last year. Yeah.
Like what? What do you make of some of
these guys, be it Tom Kim, Max Homa, Nick Dunlap’s another one.
Like guys who are good or were good and now apparently suck.
I know Francesca Walanari’s in the field, fresh, fresh.
Fresh off his fight with Ted Scott.
Yeah, he got the blood pressure going up a little bit on
Saturday. Yeah, it’s it’s tough.
I mean, you, you wonder if watching your peers, especially
like Max in an event that he, you know, he played all 5
sessions in Rome, right. And this year he was home.
Yeah. So, you know, and he was on, you
know, he time to pop on, no laying up to, you know, give his
commentary. So I wonder if he’s, you know,
motivated to come, you know, hit the ground running.
And like I said, you know, the the 2027 starts now, you know,
you start to, you know, make your headway for that.
So Aaron Wise, 400 to 1 and then the guy used to be good.
That’s not anymore, but. OK, so of the I mean, I really
should be giving Rico Hoey more of a chance here.
Maybe he is like kind of the perfect guy and he is 33 to one.
That just sounds so bad betting as someone who regularly bets
him like at 100 or 200. To see him at 33 is just like.
That’s my problem with it too, because I I kind of like him.
I was at least encouraged to see, you know, the lab belly
putter and he seemed to have a little bit more confidence
changing it up a little bit. The ball striking is always
pretty good. These weaker fields.
He’s solid driver, heavy courses, he’s solid.
It just, I wanted to be like, I don’t know, 40-50 maybe.
So it’s a little little tricky, especially considering I kind of
wanted to take a shot at at Thor and Grio.
It makes a little tough. Yeah, OK, so here’s what I’m
going to do. So let’s do some quick picks,
guys that we’re going to be fully committed to.
I’m going to bet Min Wu and Matt Wallace.
Those are two definitely on my card this week.
And then I’m going to take a look at Valamaki, Rosenmueller,
Celinda and both Hoy Guards and Rico Hoey and have to whittle it
down from that bunch. But I’ll commit to Min Wu and
Wallace right now. I will commit to Thor and Grio,
and I’m probably going to fire on either yes, we’re fencing or
Pierce and Cootie. I do a little bit more work.
Fencing has the edge probably. He modeled really well for me
comparatively. Just want to look at Pierce and
Cootie a little bit closer, but I like the Volomachy look too.
He’s probably another one that should be given a little bit, so
I’ll probably swing with one of those as my third.
Of note, the guys that I have listed right now over the past
four months as the highest earners and strokes gained off
the tee, the top three are Cameron Champ, Rico Hoey and
Kevin Yu. Two of those guys have one of
the scores. Yeah.
And you don’t, I mean you, you do have to take advantage off
the tee. Here it is again.
It’s easy to gain off the tee or it’s, I think, no, it’s average
easy to gain on approach. But yeah, I mean, you, you are I
think losing a little bit with having to take a little bit
longer approach shots here knowing that your peers are
going to have wedges. Shaping it onto the green.
Yeah, 1000%. So, you know, you could see the
JJ spawns and Russell Henley’s of the world somehow, you know,
hit and hold greens with hybrids from 230 out.
But I don’t necessarily expect that from Ricky Castillo and
Sheamus. Power Sheamus.
Power, the other guys who were up there in strokes getting off
the tee over that same sample size.
David Ford, Davis Thompson, Celinda Thor Bjornsen Rosenmuir,
your boy. Yes.
Perspensen, Nikolai Hoygard, William Mao.
He has a win. So yeah, don’t be sleeping.
Don’t be sleeping on Chairman Mao over here.
Trevor Cone, Sam Stevens. Thirsty Lawrence’s in this.
I mean, thirsty Lawrence might actually be a look.
He’s more right too. What are his?
What are his? They even see him on the odd
sheet. He’s 101 that that’s actually a
bet because he can DI He is so good slash bad with his putter.
It’s kind of hilarious, but he’s like kind of perfect for here.
You know, he’s going to drive it.
Well, he’s a pretty good wedge player, pretty good around the
greens. It’s just can he get that going?
Grio, Springer, Cootie, Smalley, like most of these names that
I’m naming, are the guys who finished inside the top 15 last
year. Yeah, he’s probably just not do
anything at the top of the board, just fire it.
Putnam, Thirsty, Lawrence, Kevin, Roy, Celinda, these guys
that like, you know, 80 or longer.
Probably not a bad luck too. That might be the move.
So maybe I’ll end up with, maybe I’ll generate A6 pack.
I’ll have the full bets in the newsletter up on batsports.com a
little bit later on during the week once I make some finalized
decisions. You have to make every decision
on a Monday morning Noonan. It’s true.
I typically like to get in early.
This year a little bit more was I waited sometimes so you would
see numbers drift. You know, definitely feel like
if I like a guy that I think is going to be really popular very
often, you know, texting with Jeff early in a Monday morning
before, you know, you guys even pop on.
I’m like, all right, well, Jeff’s going to talk about this
guy will tell me sometimes like, hey, I know Pat likes this guy.
I’m like, all right, these guys are going to move the market,
are going to get in early on the guy.
But sometimes I think it’s OK to wait until, you know, Tuesday,
Wednesday when you get tee times and if there’s weather
advantages. So yeah, wait a little bit.
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