Chris Vaccaro, Nelson Sousa, Matt Modica, and Dan Williamson get together to discuss the fantasy football fallout from Wek 2 and how they will react:
0:00 – Intro
2:00 – Burrow and other QB injuries
27:00 – Week 2 Reactions – James Cook, Jonathan Taylor, and more…
43:00 – TE Crisis – Kraft, Juwan, Warren, McBride = Good; Browers, Kittle, Andrews = Injured to Slow Start
54:45 – RB Struggles…Harvey, Henderson, Johnson, Jeanty…what are we doing?
1:15:15 – Zero RB Coming On – Skattebo, Judkins, Benson, +
1:23:00 – Early WR Worry-Meter – BTJ, Nico, etc
1:33:00 – Waiver Wire Talk
*Joe Burrow out for the season?
*Other QB injuries and who to target to replace
*Rome Odunze, Tucker Kraft, and other hits from the mid-rounds of drafts
*Is Bill Croskey-Merritt a scam or someone to rely on?
*Is Juwan Johnson this year’s Jonnu Smith?
*Is Troy Franklin for real?
*and more!
[Music] [Music] [Music] It was all a dream. I used to read Word Up magazine. Salt and pepper and heavy D up in the limousine. Hanging pictures on my wall every Saturday. All right, everybody. Fantasy scoring is back on the menu, boys. Uh, we got some good ones this week. Unfortunately, we also got some quarterback injuries. So, but let’s talk about the good stuff real quick. First, we had Jonathan Taylor, James Cook, Devon Achan, Javvante Williams, Aman Ross, St. Brown, Malik Neighbors, Jamar Chase, Roma Dunay, Juan Del Robinson, Puka Nua, and if you’re in FFPC land, Tucker Craft, all top 25 points. That’s a huge change from last week. But on the downside, of course, we have Joe Burrow, Justin Fields, Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, and we already knew about Brock Pury. All questionable or worse this week. And that news on Burrow is not good. So, this week we got it all in the Empire. We’re going to celebrate the rising stars. We’re going to get group therapy going for the burrow managers. Let’s get to it. And we do have a burrow manager here, don’t we, Chris? Not anymore. We don’t. you know, that’s Yeah, that’s uh that was the big hit uh you know, this week. Um and uh not good worst uh news that we could have hoped for. He’s probably going to be out the rest of the season. Uh you know, I know a lot of people say, you know, mid December, but by that time it’s like week 15 or 16 and and I don’t see Dan any reason to hold him. I know that was going to be one of our discussions. Absolutely not. I’m dropping him everywhere uh this week and um it’s time to go to a plan B. You know, when you’re the Joe Burrow owner and you invest in an elite quarterback in fantasy this year and that’s a you know, a top four round pick basically in the top 50 overall. Uh you know, you’re hoping that’s one of your strengths, you know, when you go after one of the elite five uh quarterbacks here. all of a sudden your your strength becomes your weakness now. You know, so people are saying, you know, all right, well, yeah, you lost your starting quarterback, but you could you could still you’re not dead yet. You know, you could put it together. That may be true, but you know, when you draft one of those top elite five guys in the top four rounds, what you’re doing is you’re basically punt you’re you’re sacrificing an extra really good wide receiver or an extra really good um running back and most likely an elite tight end. So now you’re probably a little weaker somewhere else on your roster when you take the Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, Herz, and Burrows of the world. So now your strength, like I said, becomes a weakness and you have to figure out where we’re going from here. Okay. Um, you know, I for me, I’m going to hit the waiver wire clearly and I’m going to put a collection of guys. I’m not just going to go get one guy. I’m going to go have to build a quarterback room, probably carry three quarterbacks all year long, and just play the matchups. Okay? I no longer have the ceiling of the Joe Burrow 35 to 45 point weeks that it comes with drafting an elite quarterback. Okay, now I’m just going to have to go and pick out of my collection of quarterbacks that I have rostered, whoever it is, uh, and and hope that I get a 25 and not get these bombings that we see at the quarterback position. Six points, eight points, you know, a Justin Fields week. Granted, he got hurt, but that’s what comes when you don’t have one of these quarterbacks. You know, you you you run the risk of running into that seven-point week, complete bombing, and and that’s what you avoid usually when you draft an elite quarterback like a Joe Burrow with the upside of the 40 plus games. So, I’m in the business of just trying to patch it together in all my Burrow teams now. Um, luckily, I have a lot of Trevor Lawrence as his backup and a lot of Daniel Jones as his backup. Those are my backup quarterbacks on all my burrow teams. Um so and I don’t ever, you know, a lot of people go with the um you know, the thought process of if you’re the Allen Lamar, you don’t back up your quarterback. Well, here we are in 2025. Um I don’t believe that. I always back up my my quarterbacks and I try and get a decent number two for these dark rainy days, you know, that I’m faced with now. So hopefully Danny Dimes and Trevor Lawrence step up and become, you know, somewhat backend QB ones or high-end QB2s and the rest of my roster fills in. So that’s the way I’m uh looking at it fellas. I don’t know how about you guys. Yeah, I mean for me I have uh four burrow shares, two in the main event, two in prime times. Three of them are with my partner Jason Anthony. Uh I I guess I was wrong when I said if you take Chase, you had to take Burrow. Uh, we had some options to not take Burrow and I was pretty adamant about taking Borrow there, but still it is a ripple effect to Chase. I know he had a great game and to Higgins and basically the offense in general. Uh, to the point Chris made about backing up your quarterbacks. I’ I’ve always believed in that, you know, regardless if you draft a stud or not. But a thing that I I I think it became more prevalent this summer, especially if you waited on quarterback, was drafting three quarterbacks. You used to hear if you draft three quarterbacks, you don’t have any. That’s nonsense. Especially in high stakes. We’re talking high stakes where you have 10 bench spots. Uh you know, because you’re drafting, you know, you’re drafting a backup with upside, you take another shot. And I’ll say this, it’s more for my uh FFPC gorilla leagues. Look at your waiver wire. I got Dak available in one. I got Treble Lawrence. I got Gooff. I mean, there are guys in there and there’s there’s some Danny Dimes out there as well. So, definitely check your waiver wire. It’s bleak. It’s dark right now with this burrow news, but you got to keep pushing on. Like Chris said, you’re building a room and you’re trying to play the best matchups each week. You’re hoping Browning can kind of replicate what he did two years ago. I think he had like five top 10 finishes when he took over for uh Burrow, but again, I totally co-sign with Chris. You’re not picking up one, you’re picking up two quarterbacks. Yeah, you’re not see you’re seeing that a lot more in in with fantasy drafters nowadays that the you know, they’re putting a quarterback room together. If you draft one of those elite five guys, yeah, you’re still going to put your JJ McCarthy’s or Daniel Jones or or you know, Michael Pennix’s, those guys at the end of your roster in round 17 through through 20. You don’t really see anybody going just naked at the quarterback position with those guys. And my plan all along, like I said for for a month now on the show, was if I didn’t get one of those Elite Five, I was gonna have probably three quarterbacks rostered. And you see that across our leagues. I mean, that’s why the waiver wire is so barren now. When you when you go and look at it, there are still names and and these other injuries have opened up some other opportunities here, whether it’s the ners with M. Jones, uh, you know, um, you got Sam Darnold’s always available. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Like you’re saying these opportunities like I was a big Bryce Young believer. Bryce Young and he was my number two or number three because I wanted to see how he did. Yeah. and I cut him in a lot of leagues. And is he a guy that we could maybe hope at least in garbage time can get it done? I think you’re gonna I think you’re going to see a lot of uh Burrow owners tomorrow night go in and add a Bryce Young on the cheap. Uh maybe they didn’t see the game. He played from behind a ton. He put up the numbers at the end of the at the end of the day. It was 330 and three touchdowns. He’s not a zero on the ground. He could take off and run a little bit. Uh he’s in an offense with uh you know an emerging star in T McMillan and he’s got a couple other pieces that’s going to be a popular name tomorrow. Uh nothing you know none of these guys are going to go for a lot of money. Okay, but you’re you’re we’re all looking at the same thing. I’m not listen I’m not talking about these other shows that are go to the waiver wire and go pick up a Trevor Lawrence. Not that’s garbage. You know the type of level that we’re playing here at high stakes. It’s the same names in every league. Okay, you’re looking at Tua, you’re looking at Stafford, a Cam Ward, a Bryce Young, and then all these backups, right? Like I said, the M. Jones, the Jake Browning, obviously. Um, and then and and Russell Wilson at off of his big game. Okay. Another angle you guys could take out there if you want to play the long game and you’re looking for some quarterbacks that could potentially have upside. I think if Dart is still available and Dylan Gabriel, these two guys, that could be your third guy. Okay, go pick up one of these veterans on on waiverss to back up your other backup and then go stash a dart or a Dylan Gabriel maybe and then hope that these guys are those rookie quarterbacks that come in or a Cam Ward and then you know they start to put it together and they’re like a 25 point a game type quarterback some weeks. So I think that’s what we’re all looking at if you’re the burrow owner. Yeah. And and first off, let me congratulate you Chris. You’ve made amazing progress in the last 24 hours on uh getting through the grief and and and moving on to you know being being a production it was a rough patch then it was hard dark period for a while we were drawn the shades were drawn the lights are off the fetal positional the tears in the shower you know all of it yeah we get it we get it so yeah and and just to kind of highlight a couple things um you know if if you’re in a league that’s got smaller benches, obviously you’re not going to carry three quarterbacks. Obviously, you’re not going to even need to to dig as deep as uh those of us in in leagues with uh you know, 20man rosters and 12 teams and all that. So, you know, whatever whatever your league is, it may be different than than what we’re talking about, but uh do what’s right for your league. I think what’s interesting this week is with as many quarterbacks as are out with uh you know Justin Fields, uh Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy, it’s going to put a lot more pressure on the quarterback uh free agents. So you know you were you were saying uh Loids I I think it’s probably going to end up boosting the the cost of uh you know covering. So hopefully you did have you know a backup to your elite quarterback burrow. If you didn’t um it’s it it could be tough sledding here. So Dan, those two there those two names there that that we talked about that you just said though. Um, you know, I think it’s a way to cover up this major hole for the next month, right? And you never know, every month, you know, couple other quarterbacks could go down, their backup could come in. But, you know, Carson Wentz, you know, now in charge of a Minnesota offense probably for the next month here. And M. Jones probably the same, you know, playing well. He he had a nice game. Uh, 280 and three touchdowns. These are two guys that listen, there’s no long-term plan here, but if you’re patching it together, these are guys that I’m going to be adding as well, okay? And I’m just going to be playing it week to week. I there’s nobody to go to the waiver wire and go, “Okay, this is going to be my long-term solution here to get me through the season.” But if I see if I see an answer here for the next two to four weeks in decent offenses like the Vikings and the NerS, well, maybe that covers me through midocctober. and then I go from there. Well, hold on a second. What about Jake Browning? Like I said, his past. He came into the game, they were down seven. The guy threw three picks. He passed for 247 yards, threw two touchdowns, ran one in. He still has these weapons. It’s still a terrible defense. I’m thinking that he is going to go for higher. You know, I think there’s going to be people Oh, nobody’s saying that, Matt. No, no, I’m talking that’s the obvious that he’s the obvious answer for the burrow uh owner. Uh but I’m saying are we thinking his options? There are other options. My point is is he in the $150 range is basically what I’m trying to say. I I I don’t think that’s outrageous, especially if you’re if you’re invested. I’m that’s just, you know, I think I think the bids are going to be very all over the place. Okay. You know, I think uh what I’ve been doing the last day and a half, I’m going through my leagues that I have burrow. I’m looking at the other teams in in my league. I’m seeing how many of these teams need a quarterback. Now, ironically enough, you look around your fantasy leagues. There’s maybe like five or six teams that are pretty settled. That’s at least what I’m seeing in all my leagues that are settled at quarterback. They have a nice combination or they have the Josh Allen. you know, you can you can eliminate the Allen and Lamar and the Herz, even though Jaylen Herz sucks, but these are these aren’t guys that are gonna be bidding up uh you know, uh these backup quarterbacks, but in every league, there’s five or six teams that you could potentially see be in on the bidding for a Jake Browning or these other guys. So, it’s not like you go around, you look at these teams and you’re like, “All right, I could see one or two guys bidding up. Maybe I have to make my bid a little higher.” I see I see half the teams in the league that might look at their quarterback room and go, “All right, I’m gonna be in on this bidding for Browning or any of these other guys that uh you know people like.” Yeah, I I I totally agree. I think there’s going to be a lot of interesting quarterbacks this week. um you know and and as you said Chris I think you can kind of um you know not worry about the long term so much as just getting through the next couple three weeks because as we start getting into by weeks you’ll have some teams that you know have other issues at buys and maybe they have three quarterbacks and they might have to drop one you know so quarterbacks will kind of continually enter the waiver wire either as they have a bad game or you know as a a tricky bye approaches for one particular owner or whatever. So, uh, there are definitely ways to handle it. Believe it or not, I’m just I I just punched up the name and I wanted to see where he was a available. I’m sure I have it in my notes when I was doing my waiverss yesterday, but Danny Dimes is available in a prime time that I am in. Uh, it’s a team that we have borrow on and Danny Dimes is available in our second OC that we did. So, there are two Danny Dimes teams out there. shocked that Daniel Jones is available in a prime time. Uh I thought he I thought he was 100% owned. And what’s funny in in one of my primes on Saturday night, I think it’s a team I have Lamar Jackson on and I put him in as a $14 bid and I won it 14 to 13. So that was just like, you know, I I wasn’t, you know, I didn’t go crazy, but just got, you know, you know who I see available in a lot of my big leagues. Um and I like your opinions on it. uh Stafford, you know, Stafford’s one of those guys that uh you know, he’s he’s not owned everywhere and he’s available in a lot of mine. Like I said, I think coming into the year, nobody wanted to touch Stafford, the back injury, everything like that through two weeks and he obviously doesn’t run at all. So now you got a double whammy of a guy who’s banged up, old, injured, and doesn’t run. But, you know, he’s got two elite wide receivers. That offense looks real good. Um, and he’s a guy that’ll give you 250 and two touchdowns. And like I said, if you’re looking for a solid guy off waiverss that could give you 24 fantasy points a week in NFC scoring, you know, Stafford’s going to be a heavy play for these Burough owners as well. That’s an excellent point. I I think he’s probably the top guy. I’d rather him than Penn. I mean, Gino was just awful last night. I mean, CJ Strad, if you have him as your backup, I mean, is he even rostable right now? I I don’t know because he doesn’t throw for any odds neither every week. I’d almost rather Spencer Rattler over CJ Stout. I mean, it’s that’s like what you’re looking at, too. Like, it’s not even just the starters. People that had bad backups are going to look to upgrade as well. Great point, Matt. Honestly, that that’s a great point because that’s what I was talking about. You look at these rosters, half the teams in the league, you could honestly see being like, you know what, I don’t want What about the JJ McCarthy owners? I would have dropped JJ McCarthy regardless even if he didn’t get hurt this week. Uh that’s how bad I think he is. Um I would have been in that business now that he’s hurt now four weeks. Dan, you have a lot of JJ McCarthy. Are you dropping him this week or you’re going to hold? It depends on the team. Um some of them I’m just going to hold. Some of them I’m going to drop. So, you know, if I’ve got a if I’ve got a Herz or something like that, um I’d probably look for somebody else to drop, but you know, again, I don’t I don’t think there’s going to be a lot of pressure. Um you know, I don’t think like somebody’s going to snap him right up if I drop him. So, I mean, I’m with Dan. Dan, I I agree. I’m not just I I think if he’s going to be out for a month, he’s probably a drop most likely, but again, Sunday night, he was the most pressured quarterback in the league this week. you know, this is a rookie. Uh, he did not play well. I I am not justifying that. And he did take too long. I just don’t think he has it, guys. I I’ve been on this, you know, beating this drum for a year and a half. I think he’s a terrible quarterback. That’s just my opinion. That’s why I I would drop him. I do think the fact that here’s two things. Here’s two pro reasons for keeping JJ. If they get Dersol back, who’s their best lineman, which is a huge hole there. Jordan Addison and him had a rapport all camp. He didn’t have a camp with JJ. You know, JJ was out with the hamster in all camp. I think they just have too many weapons and I think he’s got the upside that he could run and the coach. I I love the coach. So, it’s a it’s a good point, Matt. All that when you include it, especially the corpse of TJ Hawinson is running around out there, man. That’s killing. It’s over and done. Um, but you know, you’re right. JJ was out, you know, Justin Jefferson was out, um, you know, all of camp pretty much. Maybe the rapport isn’t there right now and he’s behind in the times, but we’re not going to see this kid until mid-occtober now. So, and I heard, you know, the bye-week is early. Yeah, the by-week is in week six. He comes out of the by-week. I saw he has the Eagles that week. Probably not going to be thrilled about starting. What are we doing now? We’re holding a JJ McCarthy until week eight. you know, we’re looking at two months now. So, that’s why I would be more inclined to drop them, put one of these guys on my roster, like a Stafford, Bryce Young, uh, Pennix, any of these guys, and and go from there if you’re trying to improve your quarterback room because you’re not getting anything out of JJ McCarthy. Yeah, I don’t I don’t see JJ starting before the buy. Um, you know, they need time for this offensive line to come together because they’ve been doing him no favors. and you know with Wentz you know and and and also I mean you know I I do think it’s you know there’s been stuff out on Twitter that it’s not really an ankle injury this is a wink wink uh thing just it kind of looks that way the second to last play he was running pretty well when he threw that yeah but I mean also he’s under adrenaline you know he’s he’s up and everything you know it it you know you you’ve rolled an ankle before and it’s a lot worse the next day than it is right when it happens so you know I you I’m I’m I’m not going to sit here and doubt it because I think that Okonnell knows the best thing to for him to do is get him back out there if that’s possible. But since it’s not, I just don’t see him trying to rush him back. You know, let that ankle heal all the way. Let the let the offensive line get out there and gel and then worry about getting him back. So, and and your point, Chris, is an excellent one about having the Eagles right off the buy. That’s probably not a game where you’d be wanting to play JJ. Sure. And as a matter of fact, that might be, you know, you you could probably even wait an extra week to pick him up if if you’re so inclined, wait till that game’s over and uh you know, the price will probably go down even a little bit more. Yeah. Uh real quick, uh we didn’t mention it up top, but obviously we’re a man down today. Our guy Nelson, he had a little bit of an emergency in case for everybody asking uh where Nelson is, but uh Nelson’s all good and he’ll be back on the show next week. Yes, that is a not a family emergency. It’s a plumbing emergency. So, we’ll be we’ll be clear about that. Um, last last thing. Uh, I I think where I have Burrow, um, I’m probably going to drop him before waiverss run just so you know, I know nobody will be able to bid on him this week, but I want people to see him out there and be thinking about that when they’re setting their waivers this week and thinking, you know, because there’s going to be somebody in pretty much every league who’s like, “Oh, I’m going to go get Joe Burrow and uh, put him on my team and just hold him.” I guarantee it. I’m dropping him. I’m dropping I’m dropping them, too. But I I want You’re talking home, Dan. You’re talking home. You’re talking home leaves where people are going to bid money uh to go get Joe Burrow for a possible week 16. Go ahead. If you want to spend on that, I think in like a month or so, we’ll start seeing everybody, you know, I think people will start I think people will know that he’s out there. I’m not saying they’ll bid on him this, you know, in the next week or so, but people are going to know that he’s out there and they’re going to, you know, they’re going to be thinking about it. So, our guy Marty in the chat, uh, wants to know, “What’s a what’s a bid for Daniel Jones?” Uh, I got to tell you right now, I think Daniel Jones will go for at least 30% or higher of your fab bid. I think the train is really gaining steam on Daniel Jones being that uh you know late round quarterback big hit this year. Uh that’s, you know, that’s the chatter right now. The the Baker Mayfield of last year, the you know uh there was someone else last year. Guys, help me out. Uh anybody popping the mind? Whoever it was, there was there was two guys last year that, you know, were late. So, you know, he’s got weapons. He’s in a good offense. he runs. U you know, everybody’s just been burned by Daniel Jones in the past. I just looked at it as a different year this year. That’s why I was in on him as a backup quarterback. Uh a and you know, it’s a different coaching staff, different offense, different everything. Different offensive line. They got him some talent sometimes. So, it was a good chance to take on a backup quarterback. If he bombed out for the first couple weeks, it was an easy drop in round 19 or 20. I didn’t understand why he wasn’t getting drafted. Uh so he’ll be a big bid if he’s available in any of your leagues. Matt, you said he’s available in a prime. Uh yes, he is available in a prime. And uh I I think what you’re saying is 100% right. I think if you know I mean where we’re where the burrow teams where we need it most, but there’s other teams. You want me to throw out a number for you then, Matt? Do you think? Yes. I’m I’m going to say 400 minimum. Daniel Jones. Uh, if you’re the power, I don’t think that’s outrageous, you know. No, I don’t know if my partner’s going that high, but Yeah. Yeah. If you want to. No. No. Look, I think Brownie’s going for 150 and over 200. So, I mean, I’m sure he will, too. I’m sure he will. I mean, just look at that offense. You have DS, you have uh the Warren, and then on the outside, you got Pierce and Pitman. And and Pierce is not a fantasy asset, but he’s a real life asset. That guy just, you know, he catches at least one big pass a game. And you know, Moose Chains, everything’s rolling. JT, I mean, Styen looks like a genius because there was a lot of controversy like why didn’t he go give this young kid a chance? They took him. He knew he needed somebody to run the offense and they’re they haven’t punted in two games. Sure. And Denver is supposedly the best defense in the league and and they move the ball up and down the field. Uh you know, they got a good offensive line. They obviously have a top five running back and JT maybe one. It’s there for Daniel Jones to make a run at a top 12 quarterback uh season right now. And and again, if you’re the Burrow owner or maybe a Jaden Daniels, we get news in the next day or two that he’s going to be out a week or two. Another guy that you know is going to be uh popular to go get. So, It’s going to be wild. It will be. It will be. All right. Well, uh, real quick, we’re gonna we’re going to pay some bills and we’ll be right back and, uh, get into some more good stuff. Hey, you know, I love fantasy football. You know, I love card collecting. And there is a new innovator in the fantasy space, which I also love, called Game Blazers, that is combining the joy of ripping packs with the joy of fantasy sports. And it’s a free-to-play game. We’re talking about $35,000 every week in guaranteed prizes. 750 grand total this year. They’re going to be giving out in guaranteed prizes in a freetoplay game. Go to gameblazers.com. The code is player 100. Player 100 gets you a $100 deposit match at gameblazers. 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I can’t wait for four weeks to tell you and you got to make moves and I got to do the same thing. But, uh, I mean, for me, it’s just how incredibly different the first two rounds would be right now. Oh, man. If we drafted, if you did a draft tomorrow, I’d throw three in actually, man. I mean, three rounds. For me, one of the best picks on the board right now for pricewise was James Cook. And I’m a Bills fan. I mentioned it last week. Uh, I I was worried because last year he got those big runs and those touchdowns. I’m like, I don’t know if he can do it again. I I think he can do it again. And I I think without him, that team is drastically different. Ray Davis is not on the same level as James Cook. I thought he would be more involved. So, I was completely wrong on that. And, you know, is JT like the one one? I mean, him and him and CNC right now are probably the top two guys. Be jean would be there, but I mean the alg like bean should have had it’s so annoying. It’s so frustrating still again with the he did not have had a dirty burger or more on easily. And you know what Matt, he’s he’s so by far the best running back in football in my opinion. Bean when you watch him the talent, the cuts, the the speed, the pass catching ability, he is the one. Like he’s the top guy. He was my one. I dig him and Gibbs though. I I I mean I think Gibb he has I can’t argue I can’t argue Gibbs is right there both of those guys with his size that’s what makes him the you know the the better one of the two you know with Gibbs you know he’s he he’s elusive and everything else but Bejan’s got all that and the size to truck people you mentioned that the two guys that I it’s funny I just had this conversation with a friend last night and I talked about McCaffrey and Taylor the two running backs you want they don’t leave the field okay these two guys do not leave the field. They can both catch. Jonathan Taylor could catch the ball out of the back field. There was like this myth that he wasn’t like a good passcatching running back. Okay. Uh this is what you need in fantasy now is why I shifted my mentality in the last couple years to get the Bellcow running backs early. I spoke about on the show the last couple weeks about Jonathan Taylor, my most owned running back this year. He was the guy in any part of second round I I was clicking on uh to build my teams. I I thought he belonged as a top eight player off the board this year. uh these guys don’t leave the field and in fantasy football nowadays with so much everything getting spread around so many back fields being split 5050 60 40 whatever to get a guy that doesn’t leave the field and catches the ball and you know every snap he’s going to be there somehow with the ability to to get you points and get in the end zone uh it’s just gold nowadays okay we’ve we’ve only seen two weeks of of football right Matt like you said I like this the same way I can’t really judge things until three or four weeks in, but there’s too much eight to 13 point players like just straight across the all these receivers that we loved, you know, go up and down the list. The lad mcconis 5 for 50 Drake London Bri Brian Tom all these guys we just sit around and we pray that a small handful of guys are the 30 plus the neighbors type game the Jonathan Taylor game all there’s too much mediocracy right now in fantasy football on too many teams so when you could get the heavy volume guy the the elite target hound like a neighbors um and the running backs Like I said, McCaffrey Taylor, these are the guys that you need to win fantasy football. Look at Puka and Arman. They were fringe first round picks going in the second round pick, second round. And if we were drafting today, that’s a totally different story. Uh I mean, look, there’s still hope look at last year, Jamar Chase was terrible after two weeks. I mean, Terry McLaren w putting up what, like 16 touchdowns last year. He wasn’t good after two weeks neither. So, you know, you I mean, you really can’t tell people you got to have patience when you’re 0 and two and you really didn’t score any points. Like, if you have a burrow team and you’re owing two, you probably have like 200 points because, you know, they haven’t scored any points and you’re really in trouble. So, yeah. Yeah, you are. But, I mean, for the most part, who you’ve got is who you’ve got. I mean, you know, you can make fringe moves on the waiver wire, but you know, you’re you know, you’re going to be you’re hoping for a savior coming off the waiver wire or you’re hoping that your your players will catch fire. I mean, that’s basically what you’re down to. And Dan, that this was actually Matt hit on one of my observations just right there about how differently the first three rounds were. But before I jump into a couple that I I see glaring, do you have any that stand out to you that you would be, you know, a total flip right off the the top of your head, Dan? as far as like players I’d be moved with, you know, like a maybe like an instant regret and how, you know, you had one guy over another guy in the first three rounds or how different the board would be. Uh, is there anything that stands out to you? I mean, personally, I didn’t grab enough Jonathan Taylor. The, you know, what stands out to me is how much different that guy looks when you have a team that can actually sustain drives versus a team that’s punting all the time. Yeah. You know, that’s that’s what Taylor needed. And that’s what he’s getting this year, you know, because a lot of, you know, there was a a good stretch last year where he was just not really all that. And that, I guess, was a little bit too hard for me to ignore. So, you know, I I have some, but I I wish I had more, especially at the prices that he was going at. Yeah. So, here’s a couple of my instant I know it’s two weeks, like I said, and we could be sitting here uh next week and and it could be totally flipped. Like look at Josh Allen and Derrick Henry, you know, from week one to week two. These weird things are going to happen, but instant kind of regrets. Uh, not regrets, just things that I think people would be shaking their head at is like going forward, Jonathan Taylor and Devin Han over Chase Brown. you know, everybody was taking Chase Brown early second round as that running back passing on Jonathan Taylor and Devin Han, uh, you know, who were going in the middle of the second round, later second round. That would be totally flipped in my opinion. I’d be real worried about Chase Brown going forward without Burrow. Uh, I don’t think he’s going to be a complete bust, but you know, uh, you know, I would have a H achan and Taylor over Han at least got in had that injury thing that scared a lot of people. That’s like he could at least go there. But but even before the injury, Matt, Chase Brown was going in that, you know, 13 to 15 range before Han most of the time. Yeah. I’m not I I’ll speak for myself. I was drafted Achan end of the first round or anytime in the second. And then when that injury hit, I’m like, you know what? I got to cool it here because I got like double digit shares right now. And yeah, just thinking of like CMC with the calf last year. Now that Right. But with with Han, don’t you guys think that there’s at least a little bit of danger with the fact that he’s just hardly getting anything per rush? I mean, you know, his his yards per carry is terrible. And I mean, I know that, you know, hey, he catches passes, all that kind of stuff. But it’s, you know, he’s really really reliant on Tua right now. U Yeah, but if he stays in bounds, that’s another 30 yards and a touchdown. And Miami probably wins a game they had no business even being in. He’s he’s not when he’s Mir Gibbs clone now and you know he’s a player. There’s no doubt about that. But if if you don’t have Tua in there, I think it’s a different story. I mean like you know I wouldn’t be surprised if if if weeks we’re going you know we’re going oh no he never belonged. He didn’t even belong in the second round. He should have been a fourth rounder. I’ll counter to the point where, not that I think this guy is like anything exceptional, but I think Quinn Evers could run an offense better than say Skyler Thompson or whatever garbage they were putting in there in the past. Well, they got Zach Wilson now for their backup. So, yeah, I don’t I don’t think Zach Wil is I mean I I got to think I I’ll take either of them over Skyler Thompson, that’s for sure. But yeah, I mean that’s fair, Dan. what he said he’s fair about. There is risk in that, but you know, yeah, I mentioned it real quick last week, but you know, another week of of data and evidence to, you know, the the end of the second round where AJ Brown wouldn’t get out of the second round. Lad Mani and then T. Higgins. Those were like, you know, every draft was taking its exact form. And then who would come after that? JSN. Nobody would would take any of those three guys over JSN right now. JSN belonged in the middle of the second round before those three receivers, especially now with the the T. Higgins hit. Uh I don’t even know where you But Chris, now that you mentioned JSN, I I mean Cooper Cup had kind of like a sneaky quiet seven for 90 and like Sam Darnell, he’s somebody that we should be considering. Uh he’s on that list. last year how many 300 yard games or 2 like 80 yards with touchdown. I didn’t know he had JJ and stuff, but he’s got JS. If Cooper Cup is anything and if Kenneth Walker or Sharp catch passes, you know, definitely will be definitely will be in the mix. Uh, you know, not a happy Scott. Yeah, Scotty Scott checking in talking about his JSN. Um, yeah, Darnold will be there. He’s not a zero on the ground either, right? He could chip in 20 25 rushing yards every week to help you out. maybe, you know, a playaction pass at the goal line and and run it in around the corner, you know. Uh so yeah, he’s he’s on that streamer quarterback list if you’re the burrow owner. No doubt. Uh you might have to live with those clunkers though, right? You might have to live with those 10point weeks and that’s what we’re trying to avoid. But if you pick him up and you play him in good matchups and hit on those weeks where he’s 25 points, you survive and advance. It’s that’s what we’re playing here with the Burrow owners back to that point. we’re surviving and advancing each week and putting one of our three quarterbacks in to get us to the following week and and going on and on and on. So, um you know, that was definitely one. And then that m all those receivers in that fifth and sixth round, give me Roma Dunes over all of them. Uh that’s something that I would, you know, I would uh switch. I would take Roma Dunes over T. Higgins right now rest of the season. Yes. just because you’re talking about Rome was something I was going to mention before. I I mean it’s just clear he’s doubled DJ Moore in target share for the first two weeks and I I saw a stat by one some one of these like sleeper or somebody like oh Caleb uh Williams has 12 touchdowns and one interceptions in his last 12 games. Yeah, he’s thrown one touchdown a game with 200 yards average. I don’t understand going forward though. This is what I want to see this week and going forward. If I’m a defense facing the Bears, how do you not take Roman Dunes out? Like, that’s got to be job number one. And I’m not saying they’re going to do that or he’s not going to be successful. Everything Chris said is 100% right. He has been a baller these first two weeks. And as I mentioned, doubled uh DJ Moore in target share. But that to me has gota be his next step, Matt. That’ll be his next step to see if he’s could be, you know, I think he’s going on that projection. uh you know trajectory of being an elite alpha one. That’s when you when you hit that level when you hit that level now that you’re coming into as Roma Dun now you’re going to start seeing more attention more number one corners more now can you handle that? I think he can. I think he is a true alpha one. Uh and we’ll see. Yeah, he’ll start getting more attention and and I’m actually coming around to I’m coming around to it. You know I I agree. I think he is. I think the concern now is can Caleb elevate him like can Caleb elevate his game to make him that guy that you know you. So that’s what I’m gonna be watching. Yeah. I love the fact the Bears defense looks like as well and and you know you’re playing games like Detroit just went up and down the field smoked them. That’s another, you know, positive when you’re in on the Bears passing game. And then take it to another level. Listen, we were sitting here three weeks ago. Everybody was in love with Colston Loveland, right? He was a top 110 player, top 10 tight end off the board, and everybody was loving Luther Burton. I don’t even know if Luther Burton’s in the NFL right now. Uh, you know, he’s I agree. But I I think those two are very good players. Oh, no, no, no. Will make a difference. No, no, I do too. But Matt, my point is coming into the year, people were a little backing off of Roma Dun because they were like, well, how’s everybody going to get fed? You got Burton, you got Lovelin, you got DJ Moore the clear one. Like why is Roma Dunce a fifth or sixth round pick and now two weeks later Loveland and Burden haven’t gotten off the ground yet, right? And DJ Mose to Rome. So now all of a sudden the whole picture’s changed when you’re a Roma Dunes owner. I have a bunch of Roma Dunes shares. He’s my wide receiver four on all those builds. Okay. To me, that’s how you get your teams to go to another level is if this guy performs like a second rounder when I was drafting him in the late fifth and and sixth round now. Okay. I wish I had even more of them, but I mixed it up a little bit at that turn. Get drafting a Chris Alav, a Jaylen Wadd. Uh I wish and I was all in on a Doom. I just wish I was all in to the point where I didn’t even mix it up and I just took him because I thought he was the value there. But this guy needs uh you know hopefully Lovelin and Burden stay a little more in the background until mid-season or later on. They’re probably going to hit come around later on in the year. But if this offense still plays out like this the first two weeks, a Dunay, you know, is going to be a target monster and perform like a top 30 overall wide receiver. I’m sorry, not not wide receiver, top 30 overall player on the board. I think the Bears biggest sin, I forget, did they have like six picks in the top four rounds and never drafted a running back prospect? Yeah, that’s got to be the biggest sin. That that that’s what made me such a big Cal Managa believer because I mean, you know, DeAndre Swift is just he he always finds a way to to dribble that opportunity down his way. So, I thought you were going to say something. Heck yeah. Uh, shout out to the Harry Shout out to uh shout out to Harry Snowman checking in this year again. We always appreciate his comments and in the chat. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. Uh, Chris, what do you got? Well, let’s take it to the tight end position, guys, because we are in uh a crisis already. Yeah, you you you hit on my top point too there. So, let’s let’s go. Let’s get it. Yeah, let’s talk about it because the week week two got off with a bang. Um Tucker Craft uh who you know I think Baby K. Yeah, we Exactly. Uh and that’s exactly who he looks like uh out there. He’s running routes down the field. He’s running wide open. Uh he’s the focal point of this Green Bay passing game. I am completely, you know, in love with what I see with Tucker Craft. Uh we we’ve talked about him the last couple weeks on the show. Uh he’s my most owned tight end with Tyler Warren. Two guys that I think are going to be the um you know the key to success at the tight end position um in in fantasy world. just because you cannot look at this tight end position what it is right now and and see an answer if you know we already lost KD Brock Bowers I think you’re off I think you’re going to be in store for a slow rest of September maybe early October he’s got this injury he’s going to play through it but you could tell last night he’s not himself and they’re not going to force feed him the ball like they did last year and Gino was awful and Gino was awful But regardless, when when you get these guys that are banged up and they’re not hurt enough to sit out, but they’re not healthy enough to dominate, you get a Brock Bowers 5 for 50 weekly. So, I think if you pull the trigger on Brock Bower second round, you’re going to have to stomach an early season disappointment a little bit. Maybe I’m wrong. You’re probably not going to be fully healthy until after the buy in week eight. Exactly. Exactly. That leads me to That leads me to this point, guys. I’m sorry. Trey McBride is going to be one of the biggest difference makers on in fantasy world this year. He’s the one guy that could consistently give you 20 to 25 every week. And I think now the tight end position as a whole is so, you know, there’s such a big gap, okay, that a guy like McBride is going to be that difference maker that like a Kelsey was two, three years ago and and and prior to that where he was dropping 25 every week and everyone else was just hoping for a 10 or a 12. Okay. Yeah. I was just wonder I’m sorry. I thought you were done just because we were talking about tight end. The one thing I found like so weird this past waiver run on Wednesday night was the NFC versus the FFPC in tight end bids. Then in NFC I was seeing Fanning go for like 500. Jawan Jennings going for over like you know high 300. Johnson you know John I’m sorry. I mean Jawan Johnson you got him in the GST. I had 199. I’m like you know what maybe I’m a little too high here. I put him down to like 159. You got to pull 182. Yeah. And it was the opposite. And I was like blown away by that. That’s weird to Yeah, that’s weird to me because uh to me after week one uh Jawan Johnson was a clear heavy ad and a heavy bid. And I wish I got more of him. Um I didn’t because the bids were pretty high in NFC. Uh, but I think he’s going to be a guy that you could rely on as a top eight tight end. The volume is there. He runs almost 100% of the routes. They’re always going to be losing. There’s not much in the pass game. You have a Shahed, but Jawan Johnson’s right there with him. He’s basically another wide receiver. Uh, I think that’s one of those guys that’s going to be an answer as a late round tight end type player that San Francisco just absolutely kills the tight end position every year and he he produced even against them. So, you know, to me that, you know, I I think it’s wheels up on Jawan Johnson for the rest of the year for all the reasons you just mentioned. But let’s look at that. But I’m sorry, Dan. Just real quick, let me wrap that up because, you know, to my point with McBride early and then Warren and Craft being the answer, okay, that’s going to be your bailout right there with Warren and Craft. Those owners are going to have a great they’re going to stay in the game, okay, against the McBride, Bowers, and KD owners, okay? Because you have a a whole section of tight ends that are just garbage right now. Evan Ingram, Hawinson, Mark Andrews, Injoku, Colston Lovelin, Coulston Lovelin was right there on the board with those guys. These guys are are eight points or less, guys. Like this is a wipeout. And Leaporta, even though he had a really nice week one, and I’m not going to panic. They just scored 52 points, went up and down the field, and he scored five fantasy points. So, this is a big week for Leaporta coming up. What do you want to do, Sam Leaporta? Are you going to join the the top six tight end crew that can give you 12 to 16 points every week or are you just going to go be with the Evan Ingrams and the and the uh you know the Hawinsons of the world. Fade into oblivion and that’s it. That’s going to be what it is. That’s going to be what it is, Chris, because there’s just too many options there and they don’t feature the tight end position heavily enough. You know, I I got a little bit away from what I normally do and this is how I normally handle the mid round tight ends for the most part. I don’t draft them because you’re paying for last year’s production. If you you drafted Ingram and Jooku, Hawinson, Mandrews, you know, all those guys, you’re you’re kind of paying Leaporta, you’re paying for last year’s production. What you want to draft in those middle rounds are the upcoming guys, you know, the the guys that might actually be good this year, the Crafts, uh, the Warren, u, and and you got to throw Lelin in there because, you know, it’s not 100%. you know, hey, two out of three hit, that’s pretty good. But if you’re going to draft in the middle rounds, you know, don’t don’t pay for the the moldy old guys, you know, pay for the the young upandcomers. And, you know, I think you’ve got at least as good, if not a better chance that way. Well, shout out to Dan because I I did ask in our text thread last week about Jawan Johnson because I was going to be putting in some heavy bids on FFBC uh which I was able to uh win most of them but Dan was like he’s running the routes and that’s different from when they had him in line, you know. So, I mean through two games he’s got 20 targets has 23. So, it’s looking pretty good and for all the other reasons you guys stay. Dan, your point. Yeah, Dan, your point is is is spot on with the, you know, you want the upside at tight end, so you go with the crafts, the war and stuff like that. But a lot of people look at it the other way when they’re like, you know what, I’m in the eighth, ninth round. Let me get the the safety of a 12 points for TJ Hawinson with the upside of maybe a six for 60 and a touchdown. Now you’re at 182. You can get that with Hunter Henry. You can get that with Z. You can get that with these guys later on. That’s the point. You don’t have to pay for the, you know, because those are just the guys that everybody’s pushing up. You can you can get that safety later on in the draft. And Zack has been here has been great for uh the the first two weeks. Maybe he’s the veteran that, you know, Zack Z was basically going to show how fast he was on that catch. I couldn’t believe Zack uh you know move in a while, that’s for sure. And maybe and maybe we were just one year off with the uh you know the Jake Ferguson. He’s another one that was um coming right off the board right after those guys that I that we all just mentioned that look like early season bust. And in that offense, he is, you know, a 2B to George Pickkins. Uh and there’s enough volume to go around. You’re gonna have to probably live with some three for 25 weeks from Jake Ferguson, but then you’re going to get the week that we just had this past week, you know, a nine for 80. Uh you’re going to get those weeks where he scores and he’s a 15-point tight end. So, he’s another top 10 uh tight end. So, the tight end position is all over the map. It’s two weeks in and we’re already in desperation uh time and you’re just begging for a touchdown every week from your tight end position unless this is why you take them early or late or just grab those upside guys and everybody that that has uh concaid you you really need a Knox injury. You do not have a picture cuz it’s funny. I It’s funny. You know, I said last week I have so many concaid pits, a lot of concaid pitts teams and I was debating because after week one they both had nice games and I said they’re both in good positions this upcoming week and I was like who should I go with? Who should I go with? And I was going back and forth. I w up splitting them pretty much. They both gave four catches for 37 yards and a 7.7 and I said what’s crazy though about Pitts is he ran 100% of the routes. He looks good. He looks really This is the second week in a row when he’s got eight targets. Yeah. So give give me pits over moving forward. Yeah. I think over pits over concaid moving forward because of a couple things. Number one, you got all those routes. Number two, you know, with Concaid, there’s just so much uh, you know, so many other options in the passing game. I mean, and then you get games like this last week against the Jets where they barely had to pass at all, you know, which might happen Thursday night as well. Yeah. And Kaden can get snuffed out. I don’t see it Atlanta being in situations where they can just totally throttle down the passing game like Buffalo can. Well, that’s didn’t that you mention that, Dan? I have this in my notes because I’ve been watching the Falcons closely these past two games. The first game they came out, they threw 42 passes. Sunday night they came out between uh Alier and Bjan, which is back to It’s not Bejan. It’s Yeah, you heard that. You heard that? That’s crazy. It was like Bjan Bjan Bjan Gate like you know they they were like what’s his real name? They ran it 38 times. The head coach specifically said he wants to be able to run the ball. You have these two running backs. That makes sense. I just This is an interesting game at Carolina. Do they just run it down the Panthers throats? I I’m I’m I’m just going to be watching it just to see how they attack this game. To me, it’s an interesting thing after the first two weeks. Maybe not to nobody else, but you know, I find that interesting. Yeah. I mean, listen, we all watched that game. Alier was in the mix, but you know what? At the end of the day, his his numbers were escalated because late in the fourth, they just gave him that whole last drive and he got carry after carry. So, you know, it’s still No, no, no. I’m not talking about I’m not talking about Bjan versus Alier. I’m talking about are they going to become a more runbased team than we expected. We expected they couldn’t run the ball. They lost a key offensive lineman and they have these two backs. I mean, Bjan is clearly ahead in my opinion and pretty much everybody else, but are they g the coach wants to run it, is that going to be a thing we’ll see more of as we thought this was going to be a pass heavy team. That’s my argument or observation. When you got an all all world running back, you got to you got to make sure he gets his 15 20. What I love though is that, you know, even when they’re not, he’s split out. He’s he’s running, you know, routes out of the back field. He’s going to get those four or five catches every week. He’s unstoppable in the open field. Um, you know, love everything. I love everything with him. But yeah, Pennix took a little bit of a step back this past week. So, so let’s let’s move to some I I don’t know if these are the running backs that Matt was going to talk about, but I want to I want to throw um Tayvon Henderson, RJ Harvey, um you know, and and I guess Ashton Genty as well. I wasn’t gonna be the one to bring it up, Dan. I was gonna be the one to bring it up. Everybody in there as well. Everybody is freaking out about these guys. I mean, so let’s let’s go through those four. Do you think the freakout is warranted or not on on each of the four? I don’t think the three count is is warranted on any of them. And that’s someone that was, you know, complete fade on Trevon. I’m not there’s no victory lapping here. Um and and and let’s throw, you know, I want to talk about the rookie running backs in general. That was going to be one of my observations. Dan, we got you can’t forget a guy like Caleb Johnson. Okay, that was that was the worst play. And he was the worst pick out of every So he was a top hundred pick on the board. He’s given nothing. All the rookie running backs have disappointed so far. Okay. Yeah, so far. But some of some of those later ones are coming on, which we can talk about in a minute. But let’s let’s get back to the top four. Let’s just let’s cover them in order real quick. Ashton Genty, you guys have any concerns about how he got used this past week or are you just like, hey, this is just part of being a rookie and everybody needs to just take a chill pill and relax. I’m concerned about where they’re running the offense. And he did. There was one pass play. He was terrible. I don’t know what the hell he was doing. He was running around while everybody was taking it. But I mean, I do love the way the kid runs. I was more concerned about this past game. They tried throwing deep to uh Thornton a couple of times. Then they abandoned that and late in the game down when they got to score it. I think I I don’t know. That was concerning to me. Just the overall the way they attacked that game. Uh I’m not worried about Genty. Okay. Out of all this group, uh you know, he passes the eye test. Looks good. They’re throwing him out of the back field. Now, do did I love seeing Dylan Lobby in the in the uh the two-minute drill and and um that’s a good point. You know, Zamir White, you know, getting some touches mixed in as well. I would like to see J I was hoping Genty would be like 90% on the field. I still think he’ll have his games. He got into a bad game script last night. They had a kind of abandon the run uh second half. That’s how I Genty passes Genty passes the complete eye test. I’m not worried about him. The power, the speed, everything. Uh, not really worried, but I’ll say this, Dan probably wouldn’t be a first round pick where he went. Uh, Jonath Nobody would take him over Jonathan Taylor right now. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah, I I think he’s definitely more in the back end w or running back one. Uh, you know, maybe an early running back two, something like that. How about Amarian Hampton? Um, a little bit concerning last night on his usage as well. Yeah, I’m just gonna add to very Yeah, throw me. And I And that’s one guy, you know, I I am a little invested in Genty and I’m a little invested in Hampton. Uh Hampton when he was starting to fall to the fourth round, he’s on some of my teams. Uh Hampton has got two issues right now. The, you know, uh they didn’t credit the fumble to him late in the game. I still don’t, if you saw the play, I’m sure you guys did. Uh, it really wasn’t his fault. As soon as the ball got put in his hands, Max Crosby was on top of him and it got knocked out. They credited Herbert with that fumble, but he had that fumble. He had the mental mistake in week one. I’m worried that maybe they start going like, “All right, at the end of the day, I think him and Harris had the same amount of carries. They’re not relying on Hampton as much as I thought they were. I thought Hampton would come out and be a 15 to 18 carry type running back. Um he had the opportunities inside the three yard line two in a row. Uh got stuffed. Um I I’m worried that he doesn’t pay off his price and I think his playing time gets, you know, reduced now with the emergence of Harris uh going forward and maybe this for a third or fourth round pick in Hampton. Maybe it’s like a 6040 split his way over Harris. that’s not what you signed up for when you drafted Amarian Hap Hampton. So, yeah, big time regret with him right now. Yeah, I mean, I’m concerned, but I still think there’s hope here with this uh run offense, especially if the pass offense is going to uh be as productive as it has in the first two weeks. I think as we go on, they’ll open it up and I do think he is talented, but yes, concerned. Absolutely. All right. How about uh Tayvon Henderson? That’s that’s that’s one that could cause a lot of concern. I mean, you know, I think you can you can look at it a couple different ways. Number one, uh you know, he committed two holding penalties on offense, one on special teams. And when you commit penalties like that, you’re just not going to play. Um I I saw in coach Peak index that uh um Vrabel was saying that the the the long play that uh Raandre had was actually designed for Trayvon but he wasn’t in there because of his you know his performance and that was maddening. Yeah, that that that’s definitely an issue, you know, but on the other hand, and as as Scott Kobe points out in the chat, u you know, Vrabel, he he definitely loves going with a banger in the back field. And, you know, that’s probably the bigger long-term concern with Trayvon. I mean, I expected Trayvon I I d you know, I drafted a ton of Trayvon, no doubt about it. Uh, but I also expected him to not not necessarily be great early in the year. He was somebody who I felt was like was going to be coming on. Uh, you know, I made sure on Trayvon teams I had two other starting running backs for the most part. Okay, that’s a great point right there, Dan. That’s that was going to be what I said because you know what I said weeks ago when we were talking about the Trevian Henderson third rounder that everybody was falling all over themselves to draft this kid in the third round. If you got off to a slow start here, okay, Trevian and a lot of, you know, drafters uh builds in the third round. He’s your RB1. And I was saying, could you live with five points the first couple weeks if that happens and he’s off to a slow start? You’re 0 and2 right now. I I don’t I don’t want to hear, you know, no, I’m I’m two and 0. I I overcome it. You had to draft the JK Dobbins, the Jaylen Warren, the Tony Pards of the world. Uh maybe you got lucky with a couple other running backs in rounds seven through 12. But let’s be honest here, guys. If you guys are Trevian Henderson owners, have has he been on your bench the first two weeks? He has not, but I’m not 0 and2 in all those leagues. And and another thing that’s important, Chris, and I’ve stated this prior, I did draft him in say the late third or early fourth in a couple, but my shares are mostly fifth and sixth round. I you know what I’m saying? Even in the high stakes, even in the mains and even in the primes. But here was the thing that really, you know, like like Dan said, that play was designed for him. That was a smash game for him. They said they were going to use him more and he got blown up on that play. But as good as everybody’s saying that Raandre looked, which he did look good in this game, let’s not forget how bad Raman looked in week one, and that’s Raandre Stevenson. And yes, has it been the ideal uh No. I mean, no. Has it been the ideal start? No. That was a smash game for him. Uh again though, I still think they’re going to need him to be a better team going forward. There’s really nobody outside of May on that offense including Bouty who made a beautiful catch on a beautiful pass uh that’s really startable like you can say it’s startable with confidence right now weird teams yeah it’s one of those weird teams that offensively it works but there’s nobody that you put in your line and that’s including Diggs you know I don’t think Diggs is playable right now um you don’t play anybody but Matt to my point Trevon Henderson even on even someone like me that it was a full. I’m not saying that he’s not going to be real good and and a big- time contributor in fantasy in week 8, 10, 12 when you I’m just saying are you going to be two and seven when when you get there and he starts popping off. That’s my point. That was my That’s my concern. I listen Matt, take yourself out of this conversation. I’m not talking about I’m not talking about the round five. No, forget the round six guys that you drafted in June and July. That’s not That’s not the topic here. The topic is for the last month he was a third rounder and that’s where 90% of drafters have him at. But you’re saying everybody’s only killed. What if you drafted Malik Neighbors Puka? No, no, no, no, no. That’s not the argument. No, no, no. You can’t you can’t look at it that way. You can’t look at it. But why? That’s what happens. Neighbors went crazy. You drafted Neighbors and Jonathan Taylor and then you drafted Trevion in round three. So you But you’re saying everybody’s only two, which is I’m saying You took Trevian Henderson in round three, okay, like everyone else did, okay? And he’s your RB1 and he’s given you five points that you can’t survive with these these guys, the Harveys, the other options. That’s like I I got You can’t You can’t paint the perfect scenario. I got neighbors in town. I’m saying you’re saying everybody’s 0 and2 and I’m saying that’s not No, that that’s not the that’s not what I’m saying. He’s an O and2 type player, Matt. He is an O and2 type player. I I will give you that. Yes, I agree. But there there was a smart way to draft. He’s an 0 and2 type player right now. There was a smart way to draft with Brown in rounds one and two and then you came back with Trevian. Yeah, you’re 0 and2. There was a smart way to draft a Trevian and that was going and getting like a Travis ETN u you know who I had pegged as somebody who was going to have early value or a Javvante Williams who I had is somebody who’s going to have early season value you know guys like that those are the ones who I was taking as soon as I pivoted off of as soon as I pivoted off of wide receiver then went right back to that running back well tried to grab a couple guys like that didn’t work in every league but it worked in most of them that’s an excellent point You had to though, but not everybody did that, Matt. Most people did. No, no, no. He made people most people said Trevian’s going to hit the Hold on, Matt. Most people said Trevian’s going to hit the ground running. I’m going to have RJ Harvey in the fifth. I’m going to get 20 points from each guy right off the bat. And I thought they were saying that, you know. Yes. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Everybody was in love with Trevian. No, people. Yes. He got he was the in the third round locked in as an elite RB1 right off the bat. Okay. If you drafted him in round three, you weren’t expecting four to six points each week and a slow start with no uh you know, no outlook looking rosy in these next couple of weeks. Okay. So now you’re playing the long game with them. Right now outlookwise, it’s a losing pick. Okay. Okay. To Dan’s point, to Dan’s point, if you weren’t smart enough to to build the team the right way and go get those veterans that were locked in early, I’m not going to repeat the names. We know Warren Dobbins, those guys, and and have them in. You definitely had Trevon Henderson in your lineup. I don’t want to see anybody say, “I drafted him in round three, but I bet in week one and week two.” So now you’ve eaten two sandwiches the first two weeks with not only Henderson but with Harvey with I mean if if you were crazy enough to start a Caleb Johnson uh Genty and Hampton I gota you know right now they’ve been in my lineups the first two weeks they’ve struggled okay but these guys like Henderson and Harvey people were moving them up the board to have them in their in your starting lineup and right now it’s backfired ired big time. Now, what are you going to do come week three as a Trevian Henderson owner is the question. Are you going to your bench and you’re bringing in guys or you just going to sit there through midocctober and take Trevian Henderson six points each week as your RB1 which means you’re probably in a weak running back room because he’s your one and and you didn’t expect this. Okay. You passed on a James Cook and so on and so forth here uh for for the likes of a Trevian Henderson. So, what what are you guys doing? And I’m not just saying you, I’m talking our audience. What do you do now? Do you bench Trevian Henderson until he starts getting his season going or or what? Well, here Dan, you go and then you do. If you’ve got better options, you do. Um, if you don’t, you’re you’re in real trouble. I mean, you know, if you’re sitting around with uh, you know, a a bunch of RB0 candidates that haven’t fired yet and Trevion is one of the the players you were counting on, I’m going to tell you, number one, you drafted wrong. And number two, you made your bed. Now, you got to lie in it. U, you know, it’s it it’s tough. It’s tough news, but that’s the way it is. Uh you you just if you’re going to draft a guy like that that high that you know the early season role is going to be shaky you’ve got to have you have to have drafted different otherwise uh I don’t know what you’re doing. Yeah. And just going back to Dan’s point here. He mentioned a Travis ETN which I have some ETN chairs but I have a lot more to I was in on the tootin train. So, a guy like Travis ETN who’s been great the first two weeks, 16 or 17, 18, 19 points, you know, for the first two weeks, I see a running back that they made a trade the week prior that is going to it looks like the I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but it looks an awful like Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year that this one guy just looks like such a met such a better runner than Travis ETN. I mean, I I think Tooten Train event eventually sooner than later, much more than earlier than I expected, is going to take off. Uh, and as far as like Harvey goes, I drafted JK Dobbins as well. I have a couple of teams with Harvey and Dobbins just because of the Shawn Payeyton running back team. So, and the other running Who start the first two weeks? I started both of them the first two weeks together. Yep. I had Harvey on my bench. I mean they were puck in Tennessee about probably 70% in week one to be honest. I mean if you’re watching Harvey in in the limited action I don’t understand how he’s so li Tyler Batty as well. So now you got a three-headed mess and going forward I have to figure that out. But it’s just seeing the kid’s potential what he could do. I don’t understand how he is not getting more. He he is somebody that you can’t say doesn’t deserve that. He’ll get it. Remember Kamar after two weeks was doing nothing too. So you know Yes. Exactly. But also look at the Giants, you know, the Tracy Truthers. If you’re a Tracy Truther, you’re looking like whoa. Cuz this kid scatteroo. I mean week one his offensive lineman tackled him on like the one yard line like against Washington. You know, that was just a show of a game. But this kid is showing you. So you I mean you it’s just like you say can you be patient you know you got to put some of these guys in coming into this week like tootin on some teams you might have to play you might have to play uh scatteroo on some I mean look at the guys that were going in similar rounds are are you feeling good about Tony Pard are you feeling good about Isaiah Pacheco or Swift going has gotten a touchdown but are are you feeling good about those guys I I don’t think so I I mean, outside what’s that dead zone? I’d rather have the rookie running backs than those dead zone backs going forward. I mean, that’s not even a argument. So, so let’s let’s Yeah, I don’t know if that is an argument, Matt, because you’re talking again third round Trevian and fifth round Harvey compared to seventh round Pard Warren ETN. Holland Holland was going around. I’ve seen a lot of boards and I saw a lot of smart people moving Pacheco up before that Friday night game in that last weekend. Pard’s got the back field to himself. There’s nobody else there. I mean, the other guys on IR. I mean, let’s just I mean, let’s just Howard’s the one I’m least concerned about. And and even Hubard Hubard has basically benefited for them getting blown out cuz he becomes like somebody posted a somebody posted a uh tweet when the Panthers are getting blown out he becomes LT. The guy’s catching 12 which is great. It’s all part of it all counts. Yeah, I’m just saying that’s the argument. And as much as you can say about Trevion, Hampton at one point was going early third round before the injury to the offensive lineman. He was going like 31, 33, 34 in early August and that stuff. And that was in prime times that I was doing. So, and much to say as as through two weeks, if you remember last year, I mean, and again, it’s only two weeks, but last year, what was the story of the running backs, those mid round, dead round, you know, that round five through eight, there were so many hits and those guys like the Aaron Joneses and the James Connors, uh, and eventually the Chase Brown, these guys actually were top 10 running backs. Okay, right now through two weeks, I don’t see anybody in that range that’s emerging, which to my point is why these elite top two running backs uh could be the biggest significant, you know, if you went wide receiver heavy this year, you might be really behind the Ael because none of these guys through two weeks are emerging. You know, James Connor looks like he’s taking a step back. Uh yeah, Trey Benson definitely deserve like you said looks like Trey all these guys that everybody said I’ll just be wide receiver heavy and then I’ll hit these big names in the middle rounds. Eh, it’s it’s 0 for two kind of so far. I know there’s but but Chris, let’s go back to the second round right now. Outside of JT who’s pretty much could be the one pick. Yeah, you could say he deserves to be one one top three whatever. Yeah. outside of him. Trace Brown going forward, you’re not feeling good. And he’s had 37 yards rushing in like two games. I mean, something something stupid. Yeah. So, he hasn’t looked great. Uh uh what’s Genty? I I still like him, too. I still think he can be really good, but he hasn’t, you know, burst on the scene like maybe we thought. So, I know what you’re saying, Matt. I know what you’re saying here. second round outside of JT. Bucky Irving that last drive. No, I think I think you’re looking at it. I I actually see it the other way, Matt. I think everybody is a good pick. Achan is a is a really good pick. Henry, we saw what he did week one. He’s a superstar stud. Yeah, the game script and and and yeah, it was weird, but nobody’s worried about Derrick Henry ever. Nobody’s worried about Henry. Okay, so Dererick Henry was a home run pick in round two. JT was a home run run pick. Han, I think, is going to be a home run pick. Bucky Irvin looks great straight across the board. Matt, round two running back. And I just gave you two guys right now that went right after the turn or at the turn that were going in. If you want if you want to make Genty a second rounder, that’s fine. I I I look at Genty as a as a first round, but whatever. Whatever. He was fringe. I’m just saying it’s not as like slam dunk. And I’m not saying these guys aren’t going to be good. I want you to smash. I think they have a much better chance of being good than the guys we took in the middle rounds. That’s for sure. Um, you know, and let’s let’s move into some of these some of these, uh, you know, RB0 Zero guys that look like they’re starting to come on. Uh, you know, we got Bashall Tutin, Cam Scat Scatabo, uh, Trey Benson, uh, Woody Marks looked pretty good last night. Where are Where are you guys at with these these players? Like if you’ve got uh let’s let’s say that you’ve got Tayvon Henderson or you’ve got RJ Harvey and you you’re sitting there with a team with Tuton or Scatabo or Marks or Benson. Are you starting any of those guys in place of a Henderson or an RJ Harvey? Yeah, let me let me just follow I’m gonna answer that Dan right now by just capping off the last conversation because Matt talked about one rookie running back that I left out of that last conversation and that was Scataboo. Uh Scataboo. Um I was hoping that Tracy was going to be one of those uh you know round eight nine guys like with ETN and Warren uh per guys like that. Uh, Scataboo is going to be the lead back, I think, in this offense and he’s going to be a zerorb type of running back that saves your builds. Okay, so I just wanted to say that and we can include him now in your conversation here, your topic. Scataboo is going to be one of those answers, but the main answer here for me is going to be Quinn Sean Junkkins. That’s going to be the guy I think going forward that out of that whole range the the running backs from like you know picks 100 to 130. I love Trey Benson but until James Connor goes away you know can you really start Trey Benson you know I almost started him this past week I I had to start him I started him in the league. He got like what about 11 points as my RB2 and Matt to the point like is this what we’re hoping for in fantasy nowadays? what we’re hoping for. But you got to look at how you build a team though. If I come at you with four stud receivers and I got that are doing right now right now. I got tight ends. I mean again too I do play with more FFPC than NFC and I got two stud tight ends. You you’re not beating me if my RB2 is putting up 10 and my RB1 is is is is doing its thing. I mean it’s we we do play in different ways. I’m just saying wide receivers have struggled through two weeks in general as a whole. It’s been absolutely true. Don’t tell me the oneoff about neighbors. Yeah, I got a ton of neighbors, too. That I’m talking in general, wide receiver position has been terrible through two weeks and we’re looking at guys that are given 11s and 14s and twelves and and not terrible last year too with a lot of these. But yeah, so the point is you’re kind of stuck with those guys. I mean, yeah, of course you’re stuck with them. So you’re not going to start Kan Bouty over, you know, BTJ or anything like that, but what if you do have, you know, you wanted to talk about Tayvon Henderson, so let’s talk about him. You know, let’s talk about these guys that you might start in place of him. Who are you? Are you going to start tooting in place with Tayvon Henderson? No, no, I wouldn’t do that. Um, still have to roll with Trayvon Henderson. Scataboo is in the conversation. I’m just going to give you Andre Stevenson I think is is is startable over all these guys that are struggling if you have the you know the Harveys or whatever. Quinn Sean Junkkins, Scataboo, um and uh and Javvante Williams. Yeah, those are the names you’re looking at to get bailed out at the running back position right now. Those four or five names are the answer to if you have a struggling running back or if you needed some help and you waited at running back. Uh I mean for me I think Scataboo is pretty hard not to play if you have the that’s going to be an interesting debate because I’m looking at this game against the Steelers as the Steelers have just been getting gushed. I look what the Jets did to them. Look what Seattle did to them. And now the Patriots go in there. And again, I watched that Patriots Dolphins game. That game had no business being that close. And Raandre did look good in that game. I watched week one. Raandre looked like dog I’m sorry. You forget about the seven for 15. So everybody’s all of a sudden Raandre I’m looking at these comments how great Raandre is and like he’s the savior. I don’t believe that. But we’re going to see this week. We’re going to see. And Trevian if he’s on that field needs to. He was re really good in college at Passpro and he needs to do that. That is part of the the process. He he’s not going to stay on the field if he’s going to get blown up or take holding P or take holding calls. So I don’t think they’re just going to dismiss the second round pick. It’s going to be interesting because I think right now the Steelers have a lot of injuries on defense. They’ve been gashed the first two weeks. So this is a game surprising very surprising how bad their defense has been. It it really is. But I think they do have a lot of injuries. Yeah. Joey Porter’s out and and a couple guys are banged up, but to me they were a top three defense on the board for fantasy this year and I’m thinking about dropping them or at least, you know, benching them and picking up a second defense until they get their crap together. But I mean, who Giants are Giants are playing the Chiefs, Kansas City, the Texans and Jaguars are facing off. I I mean, just you believe in Nick Chub. Can you throw Nick Chub into that mix? I I mean maybe on volume, but he did have that 25 yard touchdown run that pretty much saved that night. It wasn’t good. And Woody Marx had like four touches. Maybe Woody Marks as a pass catcher. I would buy because they really have no time to throw the damn ball down the field. You see this guy getting killed every play he drops back. But I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know what to think about the Texans. Like Nico Collins is a beast and they can’t get him to the ball. Bad offense. Bad team. Bad offense. bad bad offensive line. Offensive line’s brutal. That’s that’s the main problem that I’m seeing with him. Yeah, I I agree. And that’s that’s why it’s going to be tough on Chub. Uh because he really needs a good offensive line to operate behind. He he’s one of those runners that if you if you give him a a good runway, uh he’s going to steamroll you, but if he doesn’t get runway, he’s going to Can I ask this question just I mean it’s a little off topic, but it’s on you. We’re talking about observations. Like who are you more worried about say out of BTJ, Nico, or any other wide receiver that was going in that range? Brian Thomas by a mile. I said it last week. You guys scoffed at it. I I’m worried big time. Now you add in this wrist injury. The fact that they they’re throwing a the four five Deami Brown Washington Strange. There’s all of a sudden it doesn’t look like Brian Thomas is the elite out. Now hear me out. the elite alpha wide receiver, one that you draft as a top 10 overall pick. Okay. Nobody’s taking him over Malik Neighbors right now. Correct. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. Okay. But everybody was 50/50 on that 10 days ago at the draft table. Okay. Uh Drake London, uh Aman Rah, Hookah, give me all these guys. And Drake London’s got off to a bad start. He’s another guy that I think might be a little banged up like a Bowers that we might have to struggle with for another couple weeks until he’s fully healthy. Um, I’d still take him over Brian Thomas, but nobody would take I don’t know if I don’t know if I would do that. I think I would take BTJ over London. I would I would I think that’s a debate. I think that’s a topic. I think it’s fair to be terrified of BTJ and I and I killed Lawrence last week. Yeah. This week it was BTJ because there was there was a couple of those plays where he didn’t I I won’t use that word but he didn’t seem to really go after the ball and you know drops and Jacksonville wants him to be the the wide receiver one unquestioned wide receiver one but he’s spitting the bit right now that I mean he has got how many targets the first couple of weeks but but again he has he keeps dropping them. I mean he’d be getting fed if he was catching Well, time out. He’s dropping him this week. Week one, he was wide open on quite a few plays and the ball wasn’t even close. It wasn’t even like it was debatable. So, after two weeks, you got to hope that Liam Cohen gets this thing figured out and solid. And as far as the wrist history goes, I don’t know how much I’m buying. What? Didn’t he put Didn’t he put him on special teams for a play? I mean, so I mean, you really don’t play guys there. I mean, it was kind of bizarre. I would I would say this to wrap this up. Uh you know, if you’re going to leave Chase where he is, I think Justin Jefferson owners have to be very concerned right now as well. To me, it would be after Chase, it would be Lamb and Neighbors in any order. And then Amanuka, you would have Chase one still going forward? Uh no, honestly, I would have Lamb and Neighbors. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Right in in the discussion quarterback. Right in the discussion. But to be fair, Jamar Chase is Jamar Chase and the kid he’s going to still get peppered with him. Uh, I’m not as worried about Jamar Chase as I am at Justin Jefferson. Um, neighbors, Puka, Aman Ra before all these other guys that we drafted in round one. That’s who I would have. I do agree with that. But and and again, just to just to reiterate these points, I know it was with M. Jones. let’s say you look at that second half like Brian Thomas was elite and the first two weeks I I’m terrified. I am agreeing with you. I am nervous. I’m not saying I’m confident but I do think this is a tremendous player and the hope is week three he steps up and gets it done. Okay, so listen real quick. I know we got to hit the break, uh, Dan, but you know, my guy Paul Ferry had a little inside information with with that Jacksonville team and it stuck in my head come late August. Okay. Brian Thomas and Trevor Lawrence don’t have a real good rapport with each other relationshipwise off the field, you know. So, to me that stuck out and I think we’re seeing that now. Okay. I think I think that could be coming to fruition here where uh you know you need that you need that chemistry. Don’t that makes that’s that’s a good point. I I just think that’s the rumors that was the rumors swirling and and I think it might be right. You know they they don’t they’re not vibing. They’re not vibing and all that damage was with Mac. Jones. Yes, there definitely was. And I’m just saying this like he’s pretty much being called out by the fan base and everything. So to me, this is like if if it’s not a BTJ game this week where he just like dominates, then I’m gonna be really concerned going forward. And I’m still I still have concerns. I’m not think about last year’s offense, right? Yeah. You had uh Ingram there, okay? But BTJ was the clear alpha one. Every t, you know, every look was to to to him. You don’t get that on many teams, right? As the alpha one. Okay. That’s why a Justin Jefferson is a is a stud like he is. A neighbors is the study he is. I just think that after two weeks, the dynamic in this offense is completely different. Okay. You bring in a Travis Hunter. I mentioned all these other guys, they’re getting targets, uh, you know, left and right. You go from a target tree of maybe two guys with a possible third. Now all of a sudden there’s five or six guys in Jacksonville and it’s getting spread around. How can you be that 15 to 18 target alpha wide receiver won that a lot of these other guys that we invest in in those early rounds? And I still think, you know, Lad Mani is in trouble now. The same exact reason we drafting Lad Makanki. I would maybe buy Lad. I’m a little different. I I know I I know everybody’s saying jump ship. I would maybe buy Lad. No, no, no. I’m not say Listen, I think Lad Makanki will be fine. I think he’s I think Lad Makanki is great uh in terms of the player, but last year is a different story than this year. Lad Makanki last year was the only show in town. Now you bring in Keenan Allen and Quint and and QJ. He’s um you know he’s looks like he’s emerging now through two weeks. He catches another 60 yard last night. Um it’s it’s more spread out. You know, you got I I I do believe people forget that QJ didn’t he finish the end of the year with a bunch of touchdowns, too. Like, everybody seems to forget that about him. But just real quick, yeah, here’s here’s how things change. Like, I’m watching that Raiders game. I didn’t watch the whole game, but I’m watching all these targets to Trey Tucker and I’m like, what the hell? Why is this guy getting seven targets? Like, this should not be happening. And like you need to get the alphas like neighbors, you know, he demands the ball. Like when he didn’t get the targets that first game, whatever last year or the second game, whatever week it was, and then boom, he got 19. Like to me, this is where that has to go. And this this is the observation that I’m looking for. Is this a is this a Brock Bower’s point? You’re saying this is I’m sorry, Brian Thomas. Like uh Dian Yes. But I’m I’m trying to get to my point. uh Diane Brown and these other guys can’t be getting seven targets and him not getting that, you know, or tight end. So, but I’m saying I’m trying to make the point like Trey Tucker shouldn’t get seven targets. Dami Brown shouldn’t get seven. Like, we’re going to see this week, this is the observation that I’m going to be dialed in on. Like, I’m going to watch this Jaguars game and I’m going to be seeing is is Brian Thomas the guy. Are they making that commitment like they made to Neighbors? like Neighbors is getting the ball. Yeah. So that’s what we’re going to see. Well, that’s what separates why I’m saying how we would redo it is like, you know, you got Neighbors would be in a class of his own. I’m agreeing with you. You know, a guy like Drake London, even though it hasn’t happened through two weeks, Drake London, you know, you have a narrow target tree there. You see, do they that I asked that question last week and Mooney? Yeah, because guess what? Pits Mooney and you got Bejon. It’s not a narrow has a running everybody has a running back. But I I but I think he’s more involved. He gets, you know, he’s a lot. Say the same thing with Brian Thomas with ETN and and two out of the back. Forget forget Bejan. Uh Mooney last week last year was heavily involved and the last couple of games where what’s his name went off. Mooney missed one game, he went out early. Mooney, I don’t think he’s going away. that if if Pitts is going to be more involved, if he’s running 100% of the routes and getting at least eight targets a week, I think that hurts London. I like London. I have some London. I’m not trying to say he’s a bad player, but I’m these are the things I’m observing. He had a smash week where he got what how many targets did he get? And he got 55 yards. So, to me, that was not ideal. And that I agree maybe he’s banged up with the shoulder. I’m I’m not gonna take that away from him. But if I’m gonna see there’s going to be three guys like you’re saying if Kyle Pittz is returning Drake London. Yeah, that would that would hurt London is if Pitts is actually taking this next step. Uh I loved Drake London this year because I I thought Mooney would miss some significant time early in the year at least the first, you know, four to six weeks. I thought then he miraculously came back the last week of practice. Uh, and now he’s involved in the offense. He He was out there a ton. So now you got three guys out there. I still think there’s room for Drake London to be, you know, a double- digit target guy uh each week. Still have him over Brian Thomas last year. What was it? London had,200 yards and Mooney had basically a thousand and the guy missed like basically two games. So I’m just saying it’s it’s that that’s all I’m not talking negative about it. I’m looking at observations that I’m keying on first. Take it take it over to the the Rams though, Matt. Like to to me that offense is you got two elite studs with Puka and Devont. That’s it. It’s they’re getting all the targets. Yes. So, you know, I was off of Devonte Adams. I think Devonte Adams might be that wide receiver that should have been going in the the middle of the third round with all these other guys. Uh if Devonte Here’s why I’ll agree. Because they basically forcefed him. they f those are the offense you want and there weren’t plays where he was like wide open like they were basically it was kind of weird that they were just getting him the ball no matter what it seemed like I on a on a on a few instances in that game is is but I agree if that’s going to be the tree you know that’s why I think Puka um and and I have no Puka this year uh you know I don’t either and and that’s that’s going to be one of those players you know we all have these handful of players that we overlook that we that we’re not in on that could really burn us. Uh, and I think the number one player on my list of guys that I faded that I don’t have any shares of that could really hurt me this year is Puka. Okay. I mean, that’s fair enough. I think, you know, Yeah. I think we hit a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Any uh anything else you want to touch on before we bounce and get out of here? I know Dan had some technical issues. Uh we’re about No, I mean just keep making the observations. Watch as much if you got the NFL plus, which you should try and watch these condensed games all 22 if you get a chance because I do think it’s helpful. I’m not saying you’re going to become a scout and like be calling plays, but you do get to see some stuff that maybe you wouldn’t. Yeah, we always preach you got to watch the games just to see the things that are going on. Uh and you know, the box score doesn’t always tell the story. Um, so that’s that. With two weeks in the books, you know, fantasy football right now is pretty crazy. Um, you know, it always is. It’s it it’s always a little uh Hey, Dan made it back to the end of the show. It’s always a little crazy through the first two weeks. Probably not done with that either. Probably another wacky week or two before things start to settle in and you can really make your your solid opinions of what’s going to happen throughout. But, uh, it’s a bumpy ride. It always is. Wednesday night’s going to be wild with with the quarterback bids. Anybody stay out anybody stand out to you player-wise at running back or wide receiver that is somebody that’s a a must add and obviously our I got uh for me if any Malik Washington is out there I tried getting as much as I could and I pretty much got all the Troy Franklin that first Wednesday and Saturday night but I saw him dropped more in my Gorillas than anything because I pretty much have him in all NFC except for a couple hoes and I didn’t even draft that guy really till the very end and I I I think we didn’t talk about him, but I think he is an emerging force. They have the college connection. He’s got the speed. He’s got the T. He made that leap for in. So, what does that do for Mims and Ingram? Uh, where the hell is Ingram? I thought Ingram was going to be a smash like he he’s like Mandrews disappearing out there. So, but you know, I I do believe in Troy Franklin. I was late to the party, but I tried getting everything I could and just check your waiverss if he’s out there. He’s a must add in my opinion. Dan, anybody else? Yeah, I think I I think uh probably Malik Washington, but you’re not going to find him in NFC. You can find him a little bit in FFBC. Um it’s it’s it’s hard to come up with too many other people. I mean, I didn’t think that there were anybody that really stood out that wasn’t already standing out in week one. Oh, actually, I got one guy for NFC, and it’s kind of a stretch. I got one guy for NFC, and he was put on the hands team, which was like remarkable. Sant about the Green Bay situation at the in in wide receivers in the wide receiver room. Uh, hand up. I was a big Matthew Golden guy going into this year. He’s looking good now. Uh yeah. Well, yeah. But through two weeks, it’s been a disappointment. But that last game, how many opportunities did he have? It just missed itself. Yeah. I I mean I think there’s better days ahead, especially now that uh Reed is gone. So I’m hoping that he’s going to be one of these players that, you know, you look up in October and he’s a useful piece on your fantasy team. I don’t know if I could play him right now. Uh, but either Dobs or Wix is going to be a valuable piece. I think uh Dobs isn’t available, but Wix is on the waiver wire. So, I think he’ll be a pretty popular ad. Yeah. And to that point, I think uh you know, just the lack of options available at running back, wide receiver, and tight end is going to throw even more focus on those quarterbacks. Unfortunately, if anybody is really in dire need of a quarterback, your your best move was probably to have gotten one last week cuz I think this week everybody’s going to be looking at that position first and foremost. The only running back, which I don’t think he’s available this week, he was available in a couple of spots last week and he hasn’t done anything yet, but you look at the Kansas City running back situation, it is it’s it’s pretty terrible. At some point they got to get Bashad Smith involved at least pass catching the ball. They need some speed. They need some excitement. You know, somebody that can pitch. Yeah, it’s crazy. I I went through He’s not available in one of my zillion leagues. That’s how Yeah, but I’m just saying like that’s how deep these NFC leagues are. uh you know, you go to the running back waiverwire and there’s not even a there’s not even a guy you could bid on that could potentially have hope like like that’s how barren it is. You’re just rolling with the six or seven running backs you have rostered and hoping things emerge in your running back room because you can’t go to the waiver wire and get really any help. Oh, I’ll say this. probably now one of the most valuable backups and I got out bid on I think I bid $99 for him last week and I got out bid like 129 to 99 is DJ Giddens because if something happened to to uh oh we don’t speak about that here listen unless you really want me on the couch the rest of the season then I’ve taken enough with Burrow I’m not don’t that’s the devil Bobby that’s the devil Bobby yeah No, no more. No more. I I’ve I’ve taken enough. Don’t Don’t even talk about that, Matt. All right. Here here’s a here’s a couple for you. Um, you know, it for the anti-travon people, um, you know, take a take a dollar Gibson. Um, you know, for the Denver people, take a dollar Tyler Batty because if somebody gets hurt one of those backfields, they’re going to be next man up. And right now, they’re they’re going for nothing. Yeah, but you’d have to be desperate. Yeah. I mean, I look, I’m a I’m a big dollar in a dream. I’m a big Dobbins fan. I was last year. I still like him this year in that situation, but the guys just never stayed healthy for a season. And we even saw it last year like he just seemed to slow down as the season went along. So, yeah, I don’t think that’s crazy dollar. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, I think if Tomms went down, it would probably be to Leil Mclofflin over uh over Batty, but I could be wrong on that. Yeah. Well, good job. Another one in the books, guys. Yep. All right. Good job, everybody. And uh thanks as always to our our audience for joining us this week. We love the feedback. Uh the the chat was definitely lit this week. Uh we really enjoy that. So, uh, feel free to, you know, keep keep firing away in that every single week. And, uh, you know, if you got any ideas for any topics or things like that, always throw them into the chat. Uh, throw them to us. Uh, we do appreciate that. Mostly, we’re going to be talking about, uh, you know, the week that was and how we’re reacting to it and everything else. So, there’s a pretty good chance we’ll be covering whatever you you need covered. Uh, but that’s that’s going to be the idea every single week. And uh good luck this week on a successful waiver run for all of you who have some needs and uh a big week for your players and we’re going to get you guys out of here. Hey, I want to thank you for being part of this broadcast. If you have any thoughts on it, leave a comment. If you enjoyed it, make sure you leave a like. And if you want to see more shows on the Player Profiler channel, subscribe to it. That’s how we know you want more. [Music]

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Had to come back and rewatch from the beginning. Solid stuff as always gentlemen.
Too much yelling over each other,
Really good, interesting analysis, but this is unwatchable with you shouting over one another constantly.
My favorite podcast for passionate football takes!