2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and LaVar Arrington react to Russell Wilson’s confidence that he still has 5+ years left as an NFL quarterback.

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In speaking with Connor our of Sports Illustrated, Russell Wilson spoke about how much longer he wants to play, uh, quote, “Five plus years, I can still throw the ball 65 70 yards. I can still move and I think I’m capable of doing a lot.” It’s funny because to me, being in Denver in my first year, I was hurt most of the time and battled through it. The second year, I felt like myself again, then going to Pittsburgh, obviously, unfortunately, I got injured early in the season. didn’t end up the way we wanted it to, but it just rejuvenated everything. And then being here in New York with the Giants, it’s like playing the stadium again knowing that I’ve held the trophy here before. So that was uh Russell Wilson uh talking with Connor or about his desire to keep playing four or five more years. Um this is his fourth team in five years. Hasn’t the market kind of already spoken on him? and they just drafted a quarterback in the first round. So, it feels like it’s more likely that they brought in a backup that could beat him out. Yeah, it just feels like it’s more likely that if he does want to play four or five more years, it’s going to be in situations like this where yeah, he’s the starter for the time being until the the rookie or the younger quarterback gets developed. That’s what it feels like at this point in his career. Go ahead, Q. You got it. I think it’s hard for every um athlete. It doesn’t matter, by the way, like at what level. Um but in particular, when you’re at the professional level and even for someone who has won a Super Bowl, has been to two, has, you know, played at an MVP level, I think to feel like they’re not uh able to to get the job done, right? I I think we all like to some degree I mean again Lavar I’m sure there’s times when you see man man you’re like oh I could take him like if if I needed to go in for a few plays I could do it now can you do it consistently for the entirety of a game for the entirety of a season that’s where it gets a lot more difficult not only for your your level of performance but just to stay healthy I mean one of the things that he admitted to when he’s saying this too is the injuries that have crept up more and more you remember how durable Russell Wilson was at the beginning of his career despite the fact that he put himself in harm’s way all the time. I mean, dude, how often did we see him in his rookie and even second, third, fourth seasons, there’d be these plays where you go like, “Holy cow, how he’s Houdini. How did he find his way out of that? How did he make that throw? How did he make that play or get out of, you know, and scrambled it to run and pick up the first down?” Now, at times, you know, he didn’t never took the big shot for the most part, but I think as it wore on and as he kind of realized that that’s harder and harder to do as you you age and you’re not quite as fast or explosive, your game has to change as well. And I think that’s one of the things that not just for him, it’s difficult for any professional athlete to to be able to see that because the game mentally is slowing down. like what you see out there is like in slow-mo. You know where everyone’s supposed to be. You know what the responsibilities are. Then it becomes more of a battle of the physical and your ability to actually do it and get your body to do what you want it to do when you need it to be done. And that’s where I feel like there’s a bit of a disconnect probably between, you know, how he’s feeling, how he’s played, but what he thinks about, you know, everything mentally. because he’s like, “Dude, this game’s never felt easier in my mind watching it and seeing it.” So, it’s it’s just kind of interesting to me when you hear these words because at times, you know, they might come off and sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. You know, it comes off a little bit like that, but how much you want to make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains? 65 70 yards. I’m just saying like at times it feels like that but then other times you go okay like he just feels like he’s healthy now he’s in a better spot to go and perform but but time will tell I mean the the draft pick too behind him that that you know the fans are going to be clamoring for him the organization is eventually going to want to see what they have in Jackson Dart he’s obviously a first round draft pick for a reason so the the writing is not kind of already on the wall and I think that’s what makes it difficult for Russell Wilson in the spot he has to hit the ground running there. There can’t be any lag or stall or anything in in his performance, any injuries like he had last year starting off in Pittsburgh where he couldn’t get into the season healthy. None of that can take place. He’s got a very very slim margin for error to start this thing and get off on a hot start to maintain being the starting quarterback. By the way, to your point, he didn’t miss a start until his last year in Seattle. And I think that was the mallet finger he suffered. He suffered the mallet finger his final year in Seattle and then he missed a couple of games. But before that, never missed a game, never missed a start his entire career. And by the way, and I’ve told you this because I I I’ve to this day I’d malifing my my index fingers on my throwing hands never never felt the same after that. And you know, again, I don’t know exactly what he went through from the procedure and everything else. And it sounds like something so small like Lavar is probably like, “Oh, like what do you your index finger?” No. No. But it’s like for for for a thrower it’s important, right? like that that’s that’s like a little thing where you see like a a major league baseball pitcher who’s like on the IIL for like a hangail but like it’s kind of important if they can’t throw the way they need to and I don’t know that he’s ever been the same throwing the football in his career after that and again something small but those injuries add up and it it changes the way you play. Let me throw this out at you guys. We talked about Bill Bich or excuse me, Robert Craft and what he had to say and taking the risk in hiring Bill Bich, which to me was a flex to remind people like, let’s slow down here. Let’s not get carried away about talking about Bill Bich because he’s going to be a Hall of Fame coach. Let’s not get carried away about who he was a part of making uh a legendary player in Tom Brady because I’m the one that made it all possible with what I did. He’s searching for that validation. He’s searching for that appreciation. I look at Russell Wilson and I think he’s searching for the validation. I think he’s still searching for the appreciation. He’s gone to two Super Bowls as you’ve mentioned. and he’s won one Super Bowl as we’ve mentioned. I don’t know what the 10 Pro Bowls are. I don’t know if they are first first ballot um Pro Bowlers or if they’re alternate Pro Bowlers, which it does. I mean, at some point, I don’t know if it still matters, but at some point it mattered if you were an alternate versus if you were a starter to the Pro Bowl. So, I don’t know how many of those 10 are are one or the other, but outside of that, he’s never been a first team allpro. And if you look at his body of work, if he’s not as appreciated as he needs to be going into retirement or possibly ending up being a career backup for the rest of his time as as an NFL player, is he is he at risk of not being a Hall of Famer? And I wonder if that is what’s circulating in his mind within this five-year period of time. I’m in a great market. It’s a really good situation to be in. I I I know I know New York has struggled, but I’m I’m kind of high on this this Giants team this year. I think they’re going to surprise some people. And if he can be the catalyst at the quarterback’s position in that that type of a season, doing it in New York, is one year enough, depending on what type of success they have to solidify his career, or does it take one? I think at this point, I throw it out at you guys and you could take it however you you know where you want to take it, but I think he still needs more more than one good season to solidify being at least a first ballot Hall of Famer, let alone possibly could miss being a Hall of Famer if if he doesn’t have critical years in these last few years that he has in the league as a starter, which is kind of crazy considering if you were to say second to last year in Seattle. All right. Guys in the NFL that are you think are going to be Hall of Famers. He would have been one that I would have thought a Hall of Famer, but the post Seattle era has been so up and down and played out so poorly publicly that I do wonder if now the perception of him has changed from people around the league because it feels I mean even JC Treader was you know throwing him under the bus you know for not you know not getting the contract that he was looking for and all that. It just feels like there’s a when the discussion happens around Russell Wilson, it’s never positive anymore. And that was never the case in Seattle until the end. Until the end. Yeah. Well, I I felt like last year got positive. I mean, he he came in and gave Pittsburgh a spark on offense. I know the season didn’t end the way they wanted it to and he probably wasn’t playing his best towards the end, but you know, you factor in the pickins. You know, sometimes Kadiga wants to be out there, maybe he doesn’t. I don’t know. I mean, there was a compilation I saw on social media last season where I was like I could only imagine like I was fortunate enough to play with so many receivers that, you know, you knew when they were upset, you knew when they wanted the ball, maybe they weren’t getting the ball either because the defense was taking them away or they weren’t the number one read on a certain progression. You know, there are sometimes guys where they’re just having bad days or they get too emotional about it. and you would see that from time to time, but I never had anyone who I felt like just wasn’t gonna participate in the play. I mean, there was times where I felt like that watching him last year. So, um, that played a role as well. I just I had a uh I had a former head coach tell me one time when you start moving around to teams, he’s like, it’s really, really hard to gain traction again. And he told me this at this point when I was a backup and you know really they were offering me an opportunity to come back as a backup and I just I wanted to take a chance to go see if I could compete to start or be in a situation where if I was a backup I’d have a better chance of playing. Like to me I hated holding a clipboard. I hated sitting in meeting rooms and basically being an insurance agent. Like that’s what you are as a backup quarterback. You’re the insurance policy where you go in and all of a sudden you’ve got to fill in the void like a starter, not getting the preparation, not getting the practice. Uh, as far as the same as a starter, but that’s the expectation. And I was always like, man, this stinks. Like I like I’m I always needed reps, you know? I was slow to learn how to read when I was young. I was I was always kind of slower to develop in that regard. So, I was always someone who wanted to have, you know, more more of an opportunity to play and to and to actually learn from experience. And and I think that’s the tough part for Russell Wilson is you get to this point where you can’t find traction. How long did it take? Uh I don’t know how long it took. I I’d have to go back and talk to my mom, but I just remember, you know, her needing to take extra time, needing to take a little extra time in school as well. Um but again, I digress. Yeah, that was me digressing. You go ahead. I’m sorry. Right. I think one of the things is when you get to a point like you’re saying, Jonas, what four teams in five years? Yeah. It it gets hard to find traction because everyone that’s there around you hasn’t experienced the success you had in Seattle. They don’t know you as they don’t have that credibility all like no no think about think about this like think about how long us three now have worked together. We worked together for years now. So we know when we see each other at Super Bowl whatever we like we know what to expect. We know like even if hey one of us goes out with Lee, you know Lee’s a wild time. Like we know we’re still us with Lee. We know us three are still going to show up and perform. Now, we don’t know if Lee will be there, but we know us three will show up and perform.

17 Comments

  1. Let's be real. Wilson has to EASILY get the Giants to the playoffs and rock the house in order for them to bring him back or for another team to want him. He already took a massive pay cut.

  2. There is a problem with men like Russ, Cp3, Lebron and etc they don't want to retire, but it is time to RETIRE.

  3. Russ might not be a Top 10-15 QB anymore but he's still better than a lot of guys. What will matter is if teams with yet another bad QB (i.e. Giants) will throw yet another rookie into the fire or roll with a guy like Russ for a year or two while that rookie acclimates. He probably does have a few years left. He just isnt winning any SBs. Thats fine.

  4. As a bridge quarterback yeah I think Russell Wilson could easily pull off five more, y'all have to remember all the hype and praise you put on these quarterback classes, they don't always live up to the hype, ironically Brady Quinn was apart of one of those sub par quarterback classes that was supposed to be the next thing.

  5. Russ a Hall of Famer regardless even if he doesn’t have anymore good years . I don’t understand the “borderline” talk when you stack up his first 10 years in the league against many already in he blows some of them away. Russ is definitely a hall of famer regardless but he’s not playing 5 more years unless he’s a backup

  6. The Giants rejected him on Hard Knocks last year. They must have been desperate to have him start this year. Dude needs to retire.

  7. The market has not "spoken". The media has driven this anti-Russ hate for YEARS. If Russ is healthy and has a coach believing and coaching around him, he can still shred this league to pieces. It's just media who keeps trying to kick him out. He was never treated the same way as other QBs and the goalpoasts always moved. He was just too amazing in his prime, the best in the league, to the point where the doubters and haters had to take a break. That's why his terrible year in Denver was like early christmas for all the professional haters. They were, after over a decade, finally right! Russ finally had a bad year, and for the first time could not compensate for everything around him.

    Bear in mind, even in his prime he had to compensate for a lot of nonsense such as bad O-line play, conservative & predictive playcalling, etc. but people keep forgetting it. In 2017 Seattle was dead last in rushing, and they had one of the worst O-lines. Guess who threw for most TDs that year. What other QB could ever even dream of doing that?

    The only reason Russ might not play for another 5 years is because y'all haters manage to finally bully him out, or he is injured. If not….. you'll look stupid for sure.

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