Lee Trevino: Players Championship should be fifth major | Live From The Players | Golf Channel

1980 Players champion Lee Trevino joins Live From to discuss why he believes The Players Championship should be the fifth major, and how the tournament became one of the best in the world. #GolfChannel #LiveFromThePlayers #PGATour
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HIS 29 WINS ON THE PGA TOUR, IN THE FLAGSHIP EVENT OF THE PGA TOUR, AND HE OFTEN BROUGHT HIS BEST AGAINST THE BEST. IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE HIM ON OUR LIVE SET ON THIS THURSDAY. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT WEEK? >> OLD MEMORIES, THANK YOU, IT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT FOGGY, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP AND NOT GETTING — NOW EVERYTHING IS COMING BACK. BUT, I MADE IT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THIS IS GORGEOUS, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE. I CAME BACK HERE TO PLAY EARLY 90s, MID-90s MAYBE AND WE HAD AN NFL TOURNAMENT HERE ON THE SENIOR TOUR, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME, DAVID AND I CAME ONE YEAR TO DO A Q&A AND OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOT BEEN BACK HERE. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING IT, THERE WAS A LITTLE THING GOING ON, LIKE WE DON’T NEED THIS THING, WHAT DO WE NEED THIS FOR? I’M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHAT HIS CREW DID HERE AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE. THE QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, SHOULD THIS BE THE FIFTH MAJOR? YES. AND THERE’S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ABOUT IT. THE FEEL, THE GOLF COURSE, LOOK AT IT. 100,000 PEOPLE, WHY NOT? IT IS UNBELIEVABLE. >> HOW DID THE PLACE SURVIVED THE PUSHBACK FROM THE PLAYERS, SAY BACK IN THE EARLY 80s, BECAUSE TYPICALLY IF THEY DIDN’T LIKE SOMETHING, AND IT WAS PRETTY UNANIMOUS BACK THEN, IT WAS TOO HARD, TOO NASTY, TOO STRANGE, WHATEVER IT WAS, HOW DID THIS TOURNAMENT SURVIVE ALL OF THAT AND THIS COURSE BECAME ONE OF THE BEST TESTS IN THE GAME AND THE TOURNAMENT LITERALLY, ONE OF THE BEST IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. >> BEAMAN FOUGHT FOR IT, HE DID MORE FOR THE TOUR, AND I’M NOT SAYING ANYTHING AGAINST OUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS, HE DID MORE FOR OUR TOUR, PROBABLY AS FAR AS INSURANCE AND RETIREMENT FUNDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, HE DID MORE FOR US THAN ANYBODY. AND HE WAS DEAD SET IN DOING THIS, AND HE COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, HE COULD SEE THE PICTURE OF IT. WE COULDN’T. WE WERE TOO BUSY PLAYING AND EVERYTHING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY WANTED TO DO THE TPC COURSES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WE WERE AGAINST THAT ALSO AND IT HAPPENED. THEY DID A HELL OF A JOB. YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO ABOUT OUR COMMISSIONERS, THEY ALL HAVE DONE A TERRIFIC JOB. BEAMAN CAME IN, AND HE DID A TERRIFIC JOB AND WHAT HE DID. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THESE LAST TWO YEARS IS UNBELIEVABLE AND BEING AN OLD MILITARY GUY, MARINE GUARD, LET ME TELL YOU, WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED THESE LAST TWO YEARS, ALL THE FIGHTING GOING ON, AND IT IS STILL NOT SETTLED, BUT I’M GOING TO TELL YOU, I SAW A GUY THAT WAS UP, HIS STEP WAS GOOD, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, IF I NEED SOMEBODY TO GO INTO THE FOXHOLE WITH ME, I’M GOING TO TANK — TAKE MONAHAN TO DO IT. >> WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE THE SPLIT IN THE PROFESSIONAL GAME THAT YOU HELPED BUILD? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT GOES WAY BACK, I’M ONE OF THE GUYS THAT DID THE SPLIT THE FIRST TIME. I WAS IN ON THAT. IN 1968, 1969, 1970 AND THE PGA OWNED IT, THE TOUR WANTED TO GO ON ITS OWN, I LOOKED AT THE MEETING AT JACK NICHOLAS’S CLUB, I WAS THERE. AND EVERYTHING WENT BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, AND THANK GOD THEY SETTLED IT AND I THINK THE PGA TOUR, I’M NOT FOR SURE BUT I THINK IT ENDED UP GETTING THE RYDER CUP AND THEY STARTED THEIR OWN TOUR. THE BIG PROBLEM, IS WE WERE VERY VULNERABLE IN MY OPINION BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS ALWAYS WHO OWNS THE TOUR? WHO IS THE OWNER? NOBODY COULD TELL ME. SO WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER, BUT I SAID HE DOESN’T OWN IT. AND THEN SOMEONE CAME IN, A LOT OF MONEY. >> HOW DANGEROUS IS THIS SITUATION RIGHT NOW, DO YOU THINK IN THIS GAME? >> I’M GOING TO GIVE YOU A STATEMENT, I SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT, BUT YOU KNOW ME, I’M READY, I’M THE GUY, PERSONALLY GOLF IS IN A HELL OF A POSITION RIGHT NOW, IT IS GREAT, THE ATTENDANCE IS UP, THE RATINGS ARE UP, THE PEOPLE ARE LOVING IT, THE PLAYERS ARE PLAYING FASTER, TELEVISION IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB. AND JUST THIS YEAR, IN OTHER WORDS, TELECASTING AND HOPEFULLY THE GUY THAT IS DOING ALL OF THIS IS LISTENING TO ME, INSTEAD OF WATCHING SOME GUY LEANING ON HIS PUTTER IN THE BACK OF THE GREEN, HE HAS FANS AND FAMILY ALSO, AND THIS IS WHAT I HAVE SEEN. IF WE CAN JUST GET THE CADDY AND THE PLAYER TO MAKE THE DECISION A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, WE WILL BE EVEN BETTER. AND WE DON’T WANT TO GO TO THE CLOCK. I’M SURE OF THAT. SO, I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING, OUR INVESTORS, LOOK AT THAT, WE GOT $400 MILLION NOW COMING IN, WE’VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP, PERSONALLY, JUST COMING FROM NEXT, I THINK IT’S DEAD, I THINK THE OTHER SIDE IS GONE. >> SPEAKING OF OWNERSHIP, IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT A HANDFUL OF PLAYERS OWN THEIR GOLF SWING, BEN HOGAN, TIGER, YOU, WAS THERE A STRETCH IN YOUR PLAYING CAREER WHERE YOU COULD SAY I OWN MY SWING, MARION, MERE FIELD, YOUR CALL. >> I HAVE ALWAYS OWNED MY SWING BECAUSE I TAUGHT MYSELF HOW TO PLAY. TODAY, LOOKING AT ALL THE INSTRUCTORS AND ALL THE APPARATUSES YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR SWING, AND THIS AND THAT, NO, WE JUST FELT IT. AND SOMETIMES WE WOULD HIT A HOOK AND BEND THE SHAFT, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE DIDN’T KNOW YOU COULDN’T DO THAT, SO WE WERE BENDING THE SHAFT. WE WOULD MISS THE PUTT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UPRIGHT, IT WOULD GO ACROSS THE STREET AND WE WOULD HIT THE CURB AND MAKE IT FLAT AND BE OKAY FOR THE REST OF IT. BUT, NO, I OWN EVERYTHING, I OWN IT. EVERY DAY, I DREAM IT, I SLEEP THIS GAME, I EAT THIS GAME, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THIS GAME, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. I DON’T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I ONLY HAVE THE GAME OF GOLF, IT IS MY WHOLE LIFE, IT IS MY FAMILY. I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY OVER 50 YEARS, HE WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING. >> YOU JUST HAD YOUR KNEE REPLACED, LET’S PUT THAT ON THE SIDE FOR A SECOND, BUT LISTENING TO YOU TALK ABOUT THIS AND THE ATMOSPHERE IN THIS PLACE AND THE PRIDE THAT YOU HAVE, IS THERE A PART OF YOU THAT WISHES YOU COULD BE OUT THERE TODAY DOING THIS? >> SURE, YEAH, PEOPLE HOLLERING AT YOU. NOW THEY GIVE YOU A STANDING OVATION BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODAY. YOU COULD COME DOWN THE LINE AT 10 OVER AND THEY WILL SAY GO GET HIM. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I’M 10 OVER PAR HERE. BUT, YES, THIS IS ALL I KNOW, THIS IS MY LIFE. WHEN YOU TAKE A KID OUT OF A COTTON FARM, INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE, INTO THE MARINE CORPS AT 17, FOUR YEARS OUT OF THE MARINE CORPS, 21, WORKING, WELDING AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM ON A GOLF COURSE AT 22, STARTING TO PLAY GOLF AT 22, WINNING THE OPEN BY 68, BY THE TIME I WAS 29, HOW CAN I ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE? >> COULD THAT HAPPEN IN TODAY’S MODERN WORLD OF PROFESSIONAL GOLF? >> YES. SURE. IF THE GUYS GOT THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE WILL AND HE WANTS TO WORK AT IT, SURE, THERE WILL BE A GUY THAT WILL COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND DO IT. >> I ONCE INTERVIEWED YOU IN 2001 AT THE LIGHT PATH LONG ISLAND CLASSIC, BOBBY WATKINS WON FOR THE FIRST TIME, I WAS DOING A STORY ON PHIL MICKELSON WHO WAS MISSING SHORT PUTTS, AND YOU SAID I WISH HE WOULD CALL ME, HIS SHOULDERS ARE MOVING TOO MUCH UP-AND-DOWN. HOW MUCH HAVE YOUNG PLAYERS LEANED ON YOU THROUGHOUT THE YEARS? I WOULD THINK YOUR PHONE WOULD BE RINGING OFF THE HOOK. >> THERE IS ONLY ONE SHOULDER THAT SHOULD BE MOVING UP AND DOWN WHEN YOU ARE DOING A PUTT, NOT BOTH OF THEM. IF YOU WATCH THESE GUYS HERE, I HAVE ANALYZED THEM, I HAVE STUDIED THEM, NOW THE GREENS ARE BETTER. THE GREATEST IMPROVEMENT OF ALL AS FAR AS GOLF IS CONCERNED IS THE MOWER, IT’S NOT THE EQUIPMENT, IT IS THE MOWER. YOU UNDERSTAND THE PICTURE OF IT, IT IS ALL THE SAME. WHEN THE GUYS GET ON THE GREEN, THEY THINK, WHEN THEY PUSH A PUTT, IF THIS ELBOW IS BROKEN AND IT COMES UP, ALL THESE GUYS ARE PUTTING WITH A SHORTER PUTTER. THE REASON IT IS SHORTER, THINK ABOUT IT, IF THEY WERE 35 AND 36 INCHES LONG, YOU COULDN’T SWING THEM, THEY WOULD BE TOO HEAVY. SO THESE MANUFACTURERS ARE MAKING ALL OF THE PUTTERS AT 34 AND 33, THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY ARE BIG. BETTER BALANCE, YOU CAN HIT IT OFF CENTER. WITH A SHORTER PUTTER, YOU CAN STRAIGHTEN YOUR ARM, SO YOU PULL THE SHOULDER UP, STRAIGHT ARM. THEN YOU JUST LET IT GO. LET IT GO BACKWARDS. CRENSHAW TOLD ME THIS A LONG TIME AGO, YOUR LEFT ARM HAS TO BE STRAIGHT. CRENSHAW COULD PUTT. >> YES, HE COULD BE LISTENING TO YOU TALK ABOUT THIS AND TALK ABOUT TELEVISION AND WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU THINK TELEVISION IS DOING. >> BUT IT WASN’T ALWAYS DOING IT. >> BUT IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD EVER CONSIDER DOING AGAIN? >> DON’T EVEN MENTION IT. IF YOU OFFERED ME $90, MY WIFE WOULD MAKE ME TAKE THE JOB. REALLY. MY WIFE WOULD MAKE ME TAKE THE JOB. IF I WANTED TO GET INTO TELEVISION, YES, I WOULDN’T MIND DOING IT ON THE EQUIPMENT PART OF IT, MAYBE. I ACTUALLY THINK, WE NEED TO EXPLAIN EQUIPMENT AND STUFF, YOU KNOW TO THE PERSON THAT IS BEHIND IT OUT THERE. BUT I STUDY THESE GUYS AND THE WAY THEY PLAY, THEY ARE ALL COMING INSIDE NOW, BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG BELIEVER THAT TO HIT A GOLF BALL, YOU HAVE TO COME IN AT 7:00, I ALWAYS TOLD YOU THAT. THEN, 3% OF THE PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF REALIZE THAT A BALL >> IT WILL BEND DOWN AND THIS WAY, AND IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT, JUST RUN IT IN SLOW MOTION, IT WILL GO THIS WAY. IF IT DIDN’T BEND THIS WAY AND THIS WAY, THEN WHAT YOU NEED A STICK SHAFT FOR? YOU COULD USE A REGULAR OR WHATEVER. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY NEED TO BE PUT OUT, BUT THESE GUYS ARE PLAYING, THEIR GRIPS ARE BETTER. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE. THERE IS ONE PLAYER THAT HAS IMPRESSED ME A LITTLE BIT, MICHAEL KIM. YES. >> WHAT IMPRESSES YOU ABOUT THE GOLDEN BEAR, WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT HIS GAME? >> HE COMES INSIDE, HE CUTS WAY INSIDE, XANDER SCHAUFFELE DOES THAT. AND HE’S BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE HIS FOOT GOES BACK, AND WITH HIS FOOT GOES BACK, YOU COME INSIDE MY. I TOLD HIM, YOU ARE CHEATING BOY, BECAUSE HE PRACTICES AT PRESTON TRAILS AT OUR CLUB, JUST LOVELY GUY, SUPER INDIVIDUAL. WE COULDN’T HAVE A BETTER NUMBER ONE, AND NO QUESTION THAT WE COULD EVEN HAVE ANYBODY LIKE THAT, HE IS UNBELIEVABLE. RIGHT NOW, HERE’S WHAT SCARES ME, HE IS STARTING TO EXPERIMENT WITH HIS PUTTER. HE IS EXPERIMENTING WITH DIFFERENT PUTTERS NOW AND HE HAS CHANGED THE GRIP, AND WINNING SEVEN TOURNAMENTS AND $62 MILLION WASN’T ENOUGH. >> WE COULD DO THIS ALL MORNING. IT IS SO GREAT TO VISIT WITH YOU. THANK YOU, I LOVE YOU BUDDY. >> THANK YOU, I WATCH ALL THE TIME, THIS IS MY MAN RIGHT HERE, I LOVE HIM. >> LEE TREVINO , SIX TIME MAJOR CHAMP, JACK NICHOLS WAS THE RUNNER-UP, AND FOUR OF THOSE WAS THE 1980 PLAYERS CHAMPION, LEE TREVINO BEAT THEM ALL THAT WEEK, SO MANY GREAT QUOTES THROUGHOUT THE CAREER, ONE OF MY FAVORITES WHEN HE BEAT