Scottie’s Struggle

The Boys are in the putting lab to discuss Scottie Sheffler”s recent stats on tour and how you can prevent having the same issues.

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there’s no rules two lower score there’s one roll new location huh yeah I think this is going to be good I think so too I like the look of it we are uh here and I need to sell Butters there you go so if you haven’t picked up on context clues yet uh Scott and Jack here from the no Mull podcast and we are in the putting Lab at Franklin Bridge uh really cool piece that got added on what was it about a year ago at this point not quite it was April of last year 23 yeah that we put it in so I mean we’ve got we’ve got the best Turf in here we’ve got our our full um club building station over on the side in the tour shop so you guys are really set up to go for any kind of just like exact tweak you need under your equipment here well I think one of the things that gets missed is like the importance of getting Fit For A putter people go get fit for a driver and their irons and they’re like uh and they just buy a putter I was like well okay like did you actually understand like I can change Putters for you and totally change your numbers like that and massively improve your ability to make putts which people don’t think is important they’re like ah come on so I clean up the technique and that was kind of the feedback people had like really it matters that much I said yeah we had one guy bring in five Putters last week and we looked at all them I was like this one’s out this one’s out for this reason length affects that one weight affects that one and then I put him in a new one and it was worlds better like you had perks from this one path was good on this one attack angle was good on that one face was good on that one but none of them all matched up well put them in a different Putter and Wham all of them were good it’s so crazy too we were talking about it before the um before the camera was rolling here about just like how the putter is the most personal Club in the bag and if you think about it you’re making the most Strokes out of your entire score with your putter so for those of you who are like oh my God I need to go get fit for a new driver how many times do you actually pull a driver in a round yeah uh 12 to 14 and how many putts do you have around like 30 plus for most people Mah had 23 the other day made uh shot 63 with no Bogies still the fact that we’re talking about 23 putts right it’s still more than any other club still more than any other club we’re talking about how few putts he had so come on out here to the putting Lab at Franklin Bridge get dialed in we’ve got trackman for putting which a lot of people don’t know is actually available to us but we can actually get so much data to the point that you will leave here with a putter that is built to your specific strp yeah and uh if you get one of last year’s Putters you come anytime soon uh get one of last year’s Putters will get you 15% off so as you’ve heard me say from year to year most companies don’t have a massive uptick and Improvement but every three to five product Cycles so right this year to last year not anything majorly different I think the Callaway putters which is the Odyssey line um is definitely going to see an uptick from their last year to this year but pretty much everybody else is going to pretty Hold Steady so uh you’ve got the spider putter super popular so we’re only bringing in the things that each company does really well so Scotties are Scotties so people love Scotties um you can get Scotties they never compromise line is really awesome uh this year with a custom fitting system that we can do uh that I think awesome so it combines teaching with fitting that to me is like H this is so great and then ping we going with their classic Putters now they have this bee type putter that’s coming back that Ping’s bringing it has this like it’s shaped like a bee on the back it was super popular when it was out in the like early 2000s late 90s so that’s coming back spider odyssey’s Odyssey and then Seymour Seymour so I mean we have the best from each company here now last year we just had a mix of everything so I got a question for you before we go into what we’re talking about today would you rather this is kind of going into our this or that a little bit but uh would you rather go to Goodwill get a putter out of their sporting good section have it custom fit to you or get something straight off the rack and no fitting associated with it o well a I wouldn’t go there I’d come here there you go I would too uh I’d come here so we can actually look at real day with the Potter um gosh a custom fit Potter trumps something off the rack every time unless you just happen to get lucky and people do like you know it happens it’s just not common you know it’s maybe one in 10 probably less than that so well yeah I mean I think it’d be better some piece of junk off of the wall That’s custom fit for you than than not so I would tend to think so as well and most people have Putters that are too long well come here and get a a great Putter and a fantastic fitting and go and sink some putts out here so speaking of putting yeah this rolls in perfectly what we talking about I know right like Scotty’s so bad at putting it’s like well I mean kind of so we’ve gotten into our topic for those of you who are somehow not tuned in to uh to this world right now Scotty Sheffer has almost tiger-like numbers from te to Green but once he gets on the putting green seems to a fall AP from there so there’s so many people who are saying that he’s just putting bad Scott would you like to raise a different uh yeah I I do I could he improve his putting yes I’m not like going to be polar opposite but I don’t think people are seeing what I’m well I know they’re not seeing what I’m seeing because the conversation would be different um so basically so at Riviera Scotty was number one t to green and he was number one around the green through two rounds my d doesn’t support that so bpn o op is what we used to call it’s called sa now stands for side approach which is the side you want to approach from so and it fits the approach shot right like it just makes a lot more sense and the bpn ball pin nearest Edge it’s where you want the ball to be placed and then uh proximity on first attempt all of which are uh T to Green type statistics right so like when you look at that so remember the data from Strokes gain on the PGA tour based on how they measure it Scotty was number one he’s not even in I’m gonna pull this up so you can see it Jack on my phone he’s not even in the top 20 on mine not even close and why should somebody who’s listening to this for the first time be like wow Scott like you talk a big game but like why should I believe you over what the tour tracks because it’s data from the the tour measured in a different way he’s looking at it through a different lens right so Scotty’s probably trying to fix Scotty’s putting I’m like it’s not actually that bad Scotty should have shot a much different number than he actually shot in that round which is really important while you pull up the data too when I was watching um you know they hear you hear so much from the color commentators on Scotty was worked so much on his putting he’s brought in the best of the best to help work on it uh you know it’s just something in his motion but there’s a reason why he’s been number the one been number one in the world and was first on the money list last year so what has changed from then to now that seems to be the question so um some of it has to do he’s hitting a few less of the bpn this year than he was last two years based on what I’ve I haven’t tracked every single tournament right because I don’t want to stay up till 4:00 a.m. every night but when we look at data uh um I’m going to pull it up here we’ll look at it zoomed in a little bit Jack so Scotty finished the tournament at 8 under par good job right uh T10 because everybody’s like oh he should have won the golf tournament if his putting was better he would be winning it’s like well he’s not making up nine shots from his putting I can tell you that okay so his 72 hole final score was eight underpar calculated based on golf decoded should have shot 5.75 underpar so he’s actually ahead of what he should have shot by two and a quarter shots so that makes me feel like he’s actually his putting might actually be saving him some Strokes yeah it it it is like you beat your number by either hitting it stupid close or short game like that’s really the only way to beat your projection and what do we know about Scotty and what do we know about the ri Riv uh I think he he probably hit it way close on most of his shots I think he probably made up that in his approach game right so we’ll look at it in Parts here so um hey you’re going to have to do a little bit of work here but is to actually show this chart and let it run for a minute but um is this particular chart you get to see where he ranks so he should have shot that now Strokes ahead or behind of his golf decoded score is pretty high so I don’t have every guy in the top 25 but I have almost 20 guys in here already so what you’re looking at is uh he was projected at 5.75 under par the highest was shafley atga – 10.15 so the only person behind him is Jason day atga 4.76 so about uh I don’t have Taylor in this event so um these are your top 20 guys 25 23 is guys so you’re looking at it and you’re going wow like dude’s getting smoked by everybody like when you look at this now Matsuyama wedged and puted the crap out of it the last two days and he hit it to nothing in the last day like that’s how you like hit two shots that were less than a foot so you know that’s how you beat your number so if you look at it you’re going all right so who’s my next closest his next closest is a whole shot ahead of him at 6.8 underpar it’s like wait how or 6.7 underpar right 7 s Fleetwood Fleetwood tied him uh then you have fix fena finished at six he basically shot his number at 6.86 then you have Burns was at 6.9 those are three guys ahead of him and then you go to seven you go to 74 or 73 so like you’re shot and a half behind Five Guys like like mathematically you’re not going to win the golf tournament even if you happen to putt way better you’re still not going to get you might get to 11 under par maybe maybe 12 but you don’t get to where you’re going to get to you just you’re just not the one thing too that I think is really interesting about this data is that when you get to courses like Augusta like Riv like even I mean ah it’s hard to put old course in here but just some of these major championship level courses where if you’re not hitting the right spots on the golf course you’re getting penalized right Riv is exactly like that you need to hit it on those greens or else that uh or else the their Fairway glass it’s the funky one starts with the K uh or the their grass type their Fairway grass uh not poana the greens they have poana greens and uh gosh it’s a it’s a weird you have bent grass you have Bermuda grass you have it’s it’s a funky one people in the com anyway they would just eat up the golf ball so you’d see a lot of guys that take a lot of uh they would take wedges where normally they’d take Putters because they’re afraid that their golf ball was going to get eaten up in that Fairway grass so long story short this data to me I haven’t validated it in my own like processing of it but it seems like this is a type of course where it’s useful to keep this data because you have to hit it you can’t get away with hitting it in bad places no you can’t and so here’s an even crazier one so I take their two round averages like and then project those to four rounds like if they were to maintain those averages so Scotty’s projected 72 Hole Round finish he was at 400 after two rounds was the low of everybody in that group atga – 2.33 so he actually got better the next two rounds TI green uh Saturday Sunday by Rivier Fairway by 3.5 shots basically so he improved substantially over those next two rounds and so you’re looking at going like how’s that but Scott come on like Strokes gained is this remember what Strokes gained is Strokes gain is a measure of you against everybody else it doesn’t include slopes and tears it doesn’t equate weight putts as being equal in level of difficulty right so like you have to look at it through that lens so as I’m tracking data for Scotty I’m looking through this going well there’s a three putt where did he three putt from like he’s on the wrong side of the hole putting and he putts it it’s a difficult putt whether it be uphill or downhill could be up over a ridge or up over a significant slope or across a significant slope or down over a significant slope I don’t care if you hit 88% Your Greens like you’re on the wrong side of the hole too many times putting over these tear and then he leaves himself 4 and 1/2 ft it’s like he’s only 77% from 3 to 5 feet well of course he was there’s so much pressure riding on that putt CU he’s got a safe par from a bad spot and you’re not supposed to make bogey from hitting on the green so like you think about all the like human factors of there’s more pressure on that and then he’s not great on Long putts outside of 50 ft so that’s just a lag putting thing so even when he’s in the bpn he doesn’t putt well yeah and I to cont to it better yes no you’re exactly right um to kind of conceptualize that for people who play here at Franklin Bridge it would be like on hole four if you have a front pin location it’d be like hitting it on the back of the green where you have to go over that huge slope in order and and downhill no no less to get it to stop where it’s like technically the PGA Tour is counting that as a green hit for Scotty correct and they’re like oh he’s 35 F feet he should have two putted right well that putts not the same as the putt from 35 ft from the other side of the hole but I’ll guarantee you that those who are locals here at Franklin Bridge you would rather hit it short of the green on four and then kind of put it through the Fringe In order to get it to the hole then well that would depend it would depend on how close the pin is to the edge of the tier if the pin’s close to the edge of the green you may it may be fine putting over that you’re right but like that’s the part that we’re measuring that we’re mattering is like if the edge of the green is closer then that’s your nearly nearest Edge so it would be okay to be over that Ridge but if you’re too close to that Ridge then the level of difficulty Rises substantially even just on a pin that moves 6 feet like you move a pin 6 to 9 ft and it completely changes the way the hole is played how close you can hit it the angle you should play in from people like man that just seems like a lot but it’s really simple you can play some basic logic once you learn the three data points like play some basic logic and you’re set um so like it’s looking at those things and going well how do we you know how do we deal with that with how good Scotty is at hitting the golf ball can you imagine if he had this information and knew exactly where he needed to miss the pressure would come off of his putting so fast it just would 100% it it’s it’s kind of wild though because like at the at the PGA Tour level these guys are literally getting uh so many chances to look at the golf course to where there’s no excuse to hit it in the wrong location right my question to you Scott is that if you’re listening to this podcast and you’re trying to go out and play around with your buddies and you’re trying to at least use a rough version of bpn how would they go about how would they go about doing that uh so a rough version of that looks like this so if you have a front left pen let’s go easy ones if you have a front pen you want to hit it past it if you have a back pin you want to hit short of it if you have a right pen you want to hit left of it if you have a left pen you want to hit right of it anywhere right of it like doesn’t matter for a front pin anywhere long of it well what if I’m 30 yard long you’re 30 yards long that’s fine like you’re past it so the value of hitting in there is nearly a third of a shot so you also have to keep in mind like you want to keep it decently close so then you start thinking about okay well if I were to go 30 yards long that would be too far what would be what would bring me to 20 right and so you start to work your way down how do I measure proximity with that so if you have front left pin you know you you can kind of Be Long right of it you can even be short right of it but you got to be far enough right you can even be long left of it but you got to be far enough you got to be long enough so like it’s pretty basic all in all like if you’ve never if you’ve never used it or you don’t know the golf course you don’t have a pin location sheet you don’t have all that stuff like it’s actually pretty straightforward as you look at it and you’re going to be right probably at least 14 out of 18 times and what you just said is perfect and exactly what I wanted people to who listening to this to understand because it doesn’t have to be hard it’s one of those things that’s easy to learn hard to master but if you can just know what side of the green to hit it to based on where the flag is it’s okay you miss the green cuz it’s an easy chip yes but I think one thing that too that I want to like reiterate is there’s been this stereotype in golf where it’s like you always want to be below the hole it’s like no you don’t not necessarily right but we want to be on the right side of the hole depending on where that is right so it’s just kind of changing that stereotype from actually going off of a uh um uh phrase if you will to actually understanding Golf Course strategy and management right so sometimes being in the bpn has a downhill putt sometimes it’s an uphill putt so it’s not they’re not made equal it’s not always have an uphill putt it’s understanding the level of severity that you’re in and like when I look at the Scotty situation I’m like I have to bang down the door here like I’m sorry that data is wrong it’s well it’s right in it’s measuring but it’s wrong in the fact that it’s going to lead Scotty it’s going to lead everybody to look at the wrong thing like there’s other it’s not just his putting that’s keeping him from winning golf tournaments it’s where is that ball placed like he was not he should not win that golf tournament unless he just like insanely putts the lights out of it or hits it gets hits it to nothing which he didn’t do as much in this tournament like that’s like sorry you just didn’t do that and when you went for par fivs and two or you tried to drive greens you you were far from the hole like sorry man te of green isn’t what you think it is and it measures exactly what it’s measuring but it’s measuring the wrong thing and I think it’s important that you understand that ours is a measure of you against the golf course the way it’s designed the slopes of the green and how it plays out in the human nature and psyche Strokes Gain Is You Against everybody else I’m sorry that’s not the game that you’re playing it’s yeah what you just said that’s exactly right it’s like it’s not the game that you’re playing I I will see those stats and it’s just yeah it’s the the DNA of where those stats come from is not based on the sport right like it’s not you versus me it’s it’s the the golf course is playing defense against you who’s playing offense and like what what is the anatomy of a right shot somebody had told me like uh there was another professional that said you know angles don’t matter so long as you’re playing from the Fairway I was like well angles do matter angles don’t matter if you’re taking it into the normal context of the pins on the right you play to the left but if you’re taking it in context to slopes as they’re built onto the green and how the ball will move when it gets in close to those slopes and how and your orientation to those slopes that’s correct like whether you’re coming into it or whether you’re you’ve already hit it up to the green like your orientation relative to those and where your ball is going to be placed that matters so if you take it from the normal sense you’re correct angles don’t matter so I’ve got a fun story to tell you here it’s uh it’s not a golf course story but I I recently uh I recently hooked back up my old Xbox and fired up PGA Tour 2K 21 okay funny it was fantastic and I was like you know what like I’m playing my little career mode where I have my golfer and my golfer doesn’t have the best stats which means that I can’t just go out there and play like Scotty right so I’m like you know what let’s see if we can use Scott’s like bpn no you didn’t I did I swear and it was actually so much fun because as a character in that game I have way more control over the golf ball than I would normally have in my round so you could hit it closer and hit it on the correct side not just hit it on the correct side correct but I I the reason why I bring this funny anecdote up is because I realized while I was playing that game it just the bpn just kind of clicked for me it was it’s not necessarily about where it is next to the slope on the green but your orientation to those slopes on your approach shot that matter right and that I think is where a lot of people are not going to see the benefits of bpn and op because either one they don’t have the skill to get it there every single time or two they haven’t seen the game in that way to understand it yeah it’s mostly number two most people have enough skill to hit it somewhere over there in the general area right cuz it’s such a broad placement of the golf ball for the most part and so it’s learning how to like utilize that to your advantage and find your way around it and it’s a game changer um I pulled data this last week from Hayden Buckley and Scott Stallings from uh the waste management one of them made the cut one of them didn’t and looking at I’m like well Hayden Buckley’s his big problem is when he misses the bpn his Pro his score goes way up so when he misses the bpn his uh scoring in from there over the four round over the yeah he was four rounds Scott Stallings was two he was I think three overpar or two overpar two overpar for those four rounds on the ones that he hit the bpn he was eight under like talk about it or 10 under because he finished eight under in the tournament yeah so you’re talking two over versus 10 under that’s a 12 shot difference and that’s with more holes on the hit bpn side where you have more opportunities to make birdies and Bogies like the one that’s hit less like you hit fewer I mean the ones you missed the bpn were less than the ones you hit the bpn right so you’re like well you’re too over on those if you keep having more of those you’d be even more overpar right like wow so hitting the bpn really does matter yes it does this is a classic example of the 8020 rule 20% of the inputs are responsible for 80% of the outputs where it’s like Scotty does not have to reinvent his putting stroke he needs to hit it in the right place and then that the 80% will take care of itself right and like sure he leaves himself or he hits his long putt sometimes like when he misses a long putt from the bpn he’ll leave it for feet on the wrong side like he’ll miss the bpn on the putt not every time but a lot of times that first putt where he misses the three and a half footer is now from the wrong side and for a lot of you people which is a harder putt correct for a lot of people too who are uh who watch tournament golf or watch the PGA Tour or watch any kind of golf if you see somebody and correct me if I’m wrong here if you see somebody hitting some sort of crazy slider or something that moves drastically in the putt more than likely they have missed their BP good chance they’ve missed the bpn there’s less slope now sometimes there’s still going to be a lot of slope depending on how far away the other slopes are from the hole but if you see a lot a lot of break there’s a good chance that’s the case or you see a putt they run Way by there’s a decent chance that happens to be a downhill putt or an uphill putt they’re trying to get close from a long distance and they just blow it by the hole and now they missed the bpn I was like dude like no that’s not where you hit it stop it you guys are good enough not to hit it there like and it’s just not surprising when you’re going through I’m going where’s the bogey where’s the bogey where’s the bogey oh there it is no surprise the classic example I forget which tournament was was Victor havind last year when you were like this this dude’s data is literally saying that he’s going to collapse any second now and then he made that legendary quad made that legendary quad right and so like the PJ tour coach I’m spending time with he’s like yeah but like how often would he do that right like he’s he’s the Eternal pessimist right which is which is fine which I need somebody to hold the data and check I was like yeah but he missed the wrong he hit on the wrong side and he hit it far from the hole and then it turned into this game of boom boom bo bo bo you don’t know when it’s going to get you I can just tell you on the average if you keep missing it I don’t know if it’s going to turn into a string of four Bogies or I don’t know if it’s going to turn into one two doubles a triple and a bogey like it also doesn’t mean that they will fire a 6 seven under on day one and then collapse on day two day three like right sometimes just coming back to the averages you just don’t make as many putts and sometimes like you said on days where you could shoot a million under but you’re not hitting any data points it could just be that he’s hitting it to nothing every single time he’s just having an out of this world ball striking day right and that happens they’re that good totally they have days they hit it stupid close or and you saw matama is frustrating like H he does that on one of the shots hits it to six inches and they’re like what is he upset about he wasn’t trying to hit it there but it actually hav to work out really good so um question for you then on the uh topic of Tiger Woods and Scotty getting compared together mhm what’s the difference between tiger and Scotty if they’re comparing Scotty to 2000 tiger in his ta green per se so I don’t know right cuz I don’t have you don’t have the data for it I don’t have data to prove my suspicion based on hearing tiger talk about the game being played differently when Kea is playing Majors like hearing some of the Golf Digest videos that they put out for a while that tiger talks about strategy he’s like there are guys out here playing checkers there guys out here playing chess and guys very very few playing Elite chess and he’s playing Elite chess and like tiger would miss Fairways but they’d be in the correct location he play from the correct angle like I think tiger was playing some angles I think when he missed greens he was missing them in better spots obviously there are times where he you know he pulled off certain shots like the famous behind 16 at Augusta right that’s a miss bpn and is far from the hole that’s just finding a way to will it into the hole and that’s just like that’s how good he was like his short game was phenomenal and I think his edges if you probably compare where he was relative to slopes there’s a good chance that he’s in Better locations than Scotty was I wish we could uh and I’m sure everybody on Earth uh who plays golf which is this but you know I wish we had him for 15 minutes to talk about it because I remember he was giving um golf dig just did a video on him and he was giving Dwayne Wade a uh a lesson and Dwayne Wade just you know goes down there and and places the tea right in the middle of the two te markers and he’s like so where do you decide to like tea off from do you just hit the middle or just feel like going left or Righttime he goes no no no and then he goes it’s It’s All About Angles man and so like I’m curious if Tiger Woods had a psyche in his Elite days that was similar to bpn O I think he knew where to place his golf ball and I I think he would you know I think he knew how to get there to some degree and when he didn’t he knew how to like he could properly assess the level of difficulty of the situation remember the one where he’s flubbed the chip twice yeah and he holds we flubs it once and then he holds it y yep well that’s actually in the bpn in that location it’s a downhill chip towards water oh this is a really hard shot it’s like well it is it’s not an easy shot for anybody but like it’s actually not as hard as we perceive it to be given the context of understanding what’s really happening in theory it was a good miss right he missed the green and then he flubs it which is a right place to flub it no I’m talking about the flub was a good mess in the right so like the flub was left in the bpn and then he holds it he hit it a little bit closer so he’s closer and in the bpn still and it goes in like it seems like this drastic miracle and there’s a certain sense of resiliency in Tiger to be able to do that to will something in there but there’s also like it wasn’t as bad as we perceive it to be on the surface surf which is the to me one of the most powerful components of bpn sa and Po and golf decoded is it helps you properly assess the level of difficulty of the situation you are in Bingo and I think tiger was able to do exactly that while also processing other things like like the mental game between him and somebody else or just where he is in the 7 D2 hole stretch compared to the field I think he was able to take some of the data points and some of the not human let’s say uh qual or quanti qualitative data that was available him yeah subjective data and so I I think because he was when you look at Mark Brody’s book on Tiger Woods and uh Strokes gained approach he was one of the highest Strokes gain approach ever so relative to the field right so but then you start asking the question of like what is it that made his Strokes gained approach so much better than everybody else and like you could actually there’s in theory a situation in which Scotty sheffer’s and Tiger’s Strokes gain approach let’s assume they were exactly the same but they could be entirely different from a golf decoded standpoint because of Tiger’s placement relative to those things versus Scotty’s placement relative to those things and that to me is something worth pursuing and it’s I’m not going to chase it because it’s too much data collecting but I don’t have access to it which it’s it’s different and I it’s important that we start seeing the game in a new light whether you want to or not like this stuff is real oh it doesn’t affect me shoot we sat on number four one day everybody’s like least favorite hole there were guys that the pin was located in the back right which meant that the bpn was short and left and it meant that you couldn’t hit it past the 150 marker so we had guys that were like near the cart path on four those that play here on the regular that’s a long shot in and we had guys that were like down near the hazard near the trees the proximity of the guys that played from short of the 150 in various distances from the hole versus the guys that hit it past the 150 that day it was no like it this is just general public weren’t even close it was totally different these are you figure the average handicap players 18 we watched eight groups nine groups so what is that 36 people that’s enough sample size where’s the penan back right okay so it’s kind of tucked behind that anybody that was past the 150 post is going to have to come across that slope and they either come up short of it go ride of it or go way long of it to try to get it back there and it just doesn’t there’s something about it that the angle Matters from the visual component angles don’t matter like you have to account for the human like perception I I don’t even know if it’s the visual thing cuz to me when I hit it short and to me when I hit it long my mindset to for me personally is not that much different however where it differs and I think this is completely uh uh it’s it’s not in my head it’s just literally Golf Course design where if you’re past the 150 there on four think about it if you have a short pin you’re hitting it into that big slope so you might even have a back stop that brings it closer to the hole yeah that’s that’s all a part of this whole thing or if you’re in the back you don’t even have to deal with it entirely so if you hit it short you don’t have to go over it right so it’s like but that’s what relaxes the mental side of it if you understand it I don’t even think you have to understand it like these people don’t understand this at all they’re just generic public playing yeah and like dude that was an incredible shot from there I can’t believe like you heard those types of things I was like it really wasn’t actually that hard of a shot it was actually the best place he could be playing from and we watched two guys in a row play from basically the same spot like at 165 yards which is probably going to be a six iron or seven iron for these guys and the average proximity between the two of them was less than 15 ft they weren’t the only ones multiple people did that but like it was it was phenomenal to see like wow it works for the Gen general public they just don’t even know it’s happening but what if you did know it was happening and what if you could place the ball in those spots the game would be entirely different you play it differently you think about it differently you’d relax more and like oh actually this isn’t too bad of a shot it’s wild dude like it flies in the face of everything that’s out there right now if you’re a Golf Nut and a golf nerds some of these places that they that the tour goes to will have Topography of the maps that you can find so if you’re a Golf Nut and a golf nerd you can go get golf decoded on Amazon yep understand we’re going to rewrite it to change op to sa and a few other things so you got BP sa and uh and POA as well and you can actually go in and check if some of these guys are hitting it in the right spots right it’s I it really is cool I think you should well I had so uh shout out to uh had another another player that’s gone through all this is a low single digit handicap and he played out here the other day he hit every Fairway he hit 12 greens which is like less than a half a shot less than the t average and he shot 76 I was like what’s your bpn Ops and or essay in POA it’s like well uh essay were high at I think 13 13 14 uh bpn were 10 which isn’t enough and his PO was 860 so like oh hit a lot of greens awesome but like hey man it’s not just about hitting the green so like this allowed us to expand I was like well given those data points you should have shot uh close to a half a stroke over par so cool hitting 12 greens doesn’t matter that much so like he’s averaging 47 feet into uhhuh yeah that’s nuts of course you’re not going to make for him man he had a couple three putts of course a couple three puts far away from the yeah sounds you need to work on your long distance putting so that you at least don’t make more than you should like it’s there’s more to the story than hitting greens you know what I love about this too and this will be my final thought here is that a lot of people a lot of people say like if you had the chance to you know like you can it’s like a matrix moment you know red pill blue pill where it’s like if you had to hit every single Green in regulation or like make or two put for the rest of your life kind of thing and most people would say I’m just going to hit every Green in regulation but this exact example is proof that okay fine you can hit every Green in regulation it doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean that you’re going to it doesn’t mean that you’re going to putt lights out I would take can I place my t-ball on the correct side every single I’ll take that all day long really because it gives me my best chance at doing the rest right yeah and if you think I might three put some of the time that’s fine if you know the pens you know your course and you know where they’re at like you can actually like hitting the right side of the of it’s not even of the Fairway really it’s just the right side of the hole like over there yeah like over here to the right you know if you can do that you I guarantee you this guy would have had a better score than he did oh yeah like he just missed too many bpns and his proximity wasn’t tied at the same time you can’t do that you can’t do that so like but he hit every Fairway it’s not just about hitting every Fairway though it’s about getting on the correct side to give yourself the chance and if you’re not on the correct side then you better get the next one on the correct side well and if you’re saying I hit every Fairway it’s like well if you think about it from our data perspective you didn’t you didn’t really cuz you’re just redrawing the Fairway on the right side that it needs to go on actually needs to be over here actually needs the whole yeah it needs to be the left side of the Fairway and the right side of then that rough or the left side the left side of the rough yeah left left left yeah yeah no it’s it’s different man it’s and people like but I need to hit it from the Fairway way I was like no you don’t you how about you learn how to hit from the rough there’s no rough on the driving range you don’t get to practice it but like learning how to hit it from the rough you take spinoff you can chase it back to Flags like you can M hit it chunk it and it still roll all the way up there like you chunk one out of the Fairway it’s going nowhere you chunk one out of the rough it’s still going to Tumble forward like there’s there’s value to missing it in the right sometimes in the rough cuz sometimes too like let’s say you got a a pin in the back uh like if you if you chunk something or if you just hit it short of the hole it’s going to roll closer so you got to play the geometry of the course to your advantage and it’s really simple I know we’re making it sound kind of complicated but it’s like hit it anywhere over there off the te and if you miss if you can’t get out in the Fairway you can’t get it to the green just punch it out into that same side on a good angle H anywhere on this side of the line when you approach the green and keep your proximity within reason like and if your proximity is not great but you’re in the bpn it’s really not that hard of a chip if you miss the green it’s really pretty straightforward you should be able to make no worse than bogey at least you’re not making doubles especially for our average listener right like it just eliminating unnecessary mistakes like Scott Stallings is some ways you know struggling with the driver he’s right and left but one of the ones that he was right on like he want to blame the driver like oh if I just didn’t hit over there it’s like well then he lays it up or mishits it it’s 50 yards from the hole on the wrong side he’s missed the sa and then hits that shot up misses the bpn in a bunker 40 ft from the hole like you’re outside the 25t window we like when you miss a bpn and then hits that up on the green then two putts for double you’re like you actually the t- shot wasn’t the thing that killed you it was the three shots that followed it’s like you just compounded that’s what makes a whole new meaning to compounding errors and that’s a whole another conversation for another day but love that there’s way more like when you pull this data back it actually tells us what the game really is and it’s you against the golf course not you against me I love it that’s it love it love it well thanks you guys for listening to the first episode here in the putting lab here at Franklin Bridge we really appreciate you guys taking a look uh if you guys want to learn a little bit more about what we talked about Scott’s book golf decoded is uh going to be in the show notes and as well as it’s on Amazon as well so if you guys want to go read a little bit more in depth about what these stats mean and if you want to start implementing them into your own game that’s a great place to get started uh there’s video explanations as well that you’re going to be able to see throughout the book so rest assured you will not be uh left alone or confused at the End of This Book you’re going to be shooting lower scores that’s for sure so uh thanks you all so much for listening watching viewing subscribing uh and we really appreciate you guys remember play with the pod is happening changing the date changing 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